A New Chuck Johnson Story Surfaces: He Claimed He Saw Video of Obama Calling Deval Patrick the N-Word

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A reader emailed to let me know about the latest bizarre story to emerge about cyberstalker Chuck C. Johnson; New York Magazine editor Abraham Riesman brought this out on Twitter a few days ago.

In other news, it has now been 18 days since Johnson updated his blog — you remember, the amazing journalistic masterpiece that was going to utterly destroy the mainstream liberal media? Not much destroying going on there lately. (Unless you count Chuck’s career.)

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1 b_sharp  Jun 23, 2015 5:20:51pm

The goldfish has died, time to flush it.

2 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 23, 2015 5:21:19pm

And we should believe that Chuck saw this alleged video just like we should believe his “medical student friend” took him on an operating theater date to view an actual abortion.

3 Kid A  Jun 23, 2015 5:22:48pm

Who is Chuck Johnson?

4 ipsos  Jun 23, 2015 5:23:14pm

I think Nikki Haley is suffering from a derp - er, dearth - of creativity.

If the laws bar her from simply issuing an executive order to take the damn flag down, they surely DON’T bar her from issuing an executive order to surround that fairly short flagpole with a circle of taller flagpoles - 13 of them, let’ s say - flying our nation’s flag. Put the palmetto flag beneath it, too. Make ‘em good and big.

The law might say the traitor flag has to fly. It doesn’t say it has to be clearly visible, does it?

There. Solved all the world’s problems. Can I haz some single malt now?

5 Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2015 5:25:50pm

This video is probably on the same tape as the Michelle Obama “Whitey” video.

6 Jenner7  Jun 23, 2015 5:26:34pm
7 #FergusonFireside  Jun 23, 2015 5:26:38pm

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

And we should believe that Chuck saw this alleged video just like we should believe his “medical student friend” took him on an operating theater date to view an actual abortion.

Yep. I’ll never forget that one. He stepped off the cliff at that point for me.

8 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 23, 2015 5:29:00pm

HURR HURR KEEP FLYING TEH FLAG IN MEMORY OF TEH VICTIMS OF LIBRUL CENSORSHIP!!!!!1!!

but
HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATZ OWN TEH FLAG!!!!!!

9 #FergusonFireside  Jun 23, 2015 5:29:32pm

re: #6 Jenner7

I just got a tear of hope in my eye.

Maybe, just maybe the momentum won’t stop soon. It’s up to us to keep loud for justice.

10 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2015 5:30:48pm
11 b_sharp  Jun 23, 2015 5:31:37pm

re: #9 #FergusonFireside

I just got a tear of hope in my eye.

Maybe, just maybe the momentum won’t stop soon. It’s up to us to keep loud for justice.

I have a hat pin in my hand. A very sharp hatpin capable of bursting all sorts of balloons.

12 #FergusonFireside  Jun 23, 2015 5:32:14pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Saw that. Haha super super pissed.

13 CuriousLurker  Jun 23, 2015 5:32:45pm

Uh-oh, after going all dark & blustery, outside suddenly looks all sickly yellow and the trees are dead still. That’s never a good sign… At least it wasn’t back in TX—it meant a helluva wicked storm was nigh.

14 Jenner7  Jun 23, 2015 5:34:10pm

All who voted no to even debate it were…….drumroll….Republicans.

15 Great White Snark  Jun 23, 2015 5:35:02pm

I’m feeling good. Good about the confederate flag going down for the hateful symbol it is. Glad to have taken a fair slap at Ben Shapiro today on twitter. Sure I’m a nobody but sometime the point made is bigger than the speaker of the point. Time for some thick crunchy guitar music. Not sure how many Slash fans we got here but i did find this… Something about how he punctuates the notes.

Video

16 ipsos  Jun 23, 2015 5:36:54pm

I’m thinking this could turn out to be an epically bad month for Wingnutistan. First they lose their security blankie…and then the ACA and SSM decisions next week, if they go how we’re all hoping they go…

…and no Chuckie Who? to supply his unique brand of homespun wisdom to the whole situation, either.

17 psddluva4evah  Jun 23, 2015 5:37:43pm

Ummm hmmm

18 #FergusonFireside  Jun 23, 2015 5:40:32pm

What is tasty though, is the theory that to prove monetary loss, Chuck’s idjit lawyer recommended no more posting.

19 Timothy Watson  Jun 23, 2015 5:41:24pm

re: #17 psddluva4evah

Ummm hmmm

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He’s still running? He hasn’t gotten tired and quit already?

20 Jenner7  Jun 23, 2015 5:43:40pm

re: #17 psddluva4evah

Despicable. Never liked the man.

21 piratedan  Jun 23, 2015 5:45:12pm

maybe out of this horror for those families, they can see that those deaths of their loved ones really did matter, which meant that their lives really did matter in that it has the capacity to produce this kind of change.

I wish it didn’t have to be so, I wish that they were still here to be with those that loved them and that they loved, but if we’re dealing with symbols and agree that symbols matter, then at least their passing will have the effect of bringing us all together and stop the perpetration of this hateful mythos.

I just never want to forget that nine people died needlessly in order to bring this about.

22 De Kolta Chair  Jun 23, 2015 5:51:05pm

The New York Sun you say?

23 psddluva4evah  Jun 23, 2015 5:52:05pm

re: #19 Timothy Watson

Well, he was supposed to be making an annoucement this month, and from what I’ve read, the writing on the wall was that he was gonna run. He made all the moves of a possible running.

re: #20 Jenner7

it’s not even that he hasn’t, it that from the article it appears that him and or his people are dodging the reporters asking the question.

24 Great White Snark  Jun 23, 2015 5:52:23pm

re: #21 piratedan

Progress is progress, I’ll take it. We have a short moment where the public Gets It. Genuinely repelled by this kid and his hate. So if the confederate flag can go down after a shoot like this why has universal registration not gotten any traction even after a number of high profile deadly mass shootings?!

What made this moment more powerful than all too many in the past that made big news but no real changes? It’s a societal mystery to me.

25 aagcobb  Jun 23, 2015 5:53:29pm

re: #17 psddluva4evah

Ummm hmmm

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In Kentucky, GOP gubernatorial nominee Matt Bevin, Mitch McConnell and other Republicans have called for removal of the statue of Jefferson Davis from the Capitol Rotunda, while the Democratic gubernatorial nominee, Jack Conway, isn’t sure.

26 goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2015 5:55:33pm

Abraham Riesman’s done it now, Chuck’s going to sue him in Johnston Atoll District Court.

*More like Johnson A-hole District Court, amirite?*

Sorry.

No, really.

Wakka-wakka?

I’ll see myself out.

27 allegro  Jun 23, 2015 5:56:12pm

re: #23 psddluva4evah

Well, he was supposed to be making an annoucement this month, and from what I’ve read, the writing on the wall was that he was gonna run. He made all the moves of a possible running.

it’s not even that he hasn’t, it that from the article it appears that him and or his people are dodging the reporters asking the question.

Maybe he’s still thinking about which party he wants to run in.

28 allegro  Jun 23, 2015 5:57:40pm

re: #24 Great White Snark

Progress is progress, I’ll take it. We have a short moment where the public Gets It. Genuinely repelled by this kid and his hate. So if the confederate flag can go down after a shoot like this why has universal registration not gotten any traction even after a number of high profile deadly mass shootings?!

What made this moment more powerful than all too many in the past that made big news but no real changes? It’s a societal mystery to me.

Guns have a better lobby.

29 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 23, 2015 5:57:57pm

There seems to be a Confederate flag buying run developing, mirroring the time dishonored run on guns and ammunition that started more than 6 years ago. Apparently the good old bigots want to stock up on the Stars and Bars before Obama and the UN ban it entirely and put the sellers in the FEMA gulag, or gay-lag as the case may be.

30 Decatur Deb  Jun 23, 2015 5:58:39pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

There seems to be a Confederate flag buying run developing, mirroring the time dishonored run on guns and ammunition that started more than 6 years ago. Apparently the good old bigots want to stock up on the Stars and Bars before Obama and the UN ban it entirely and put the sellers in the FEMA gulag, or gay-lag as the case may be.

Good. Fewer dollars for the PACs.

31 allegro  Jun 23, 2015 5:58:41pm

re: #28 allegro

Guns have a better lobby.

And I suggest that the whole flag thing is just a bone to keep the subject off guns.

32 Virginia Dreaming  Jun 23, 2015 5:59:37pm

If this video existed, how in the hell did we make it through two presidential elections without it surfacing? I think I will go with Occam’s Razor and assume that Chuck Johnson is full of shit. Or that he hallucinated it while getting his lanolin on.

33 CuriousLurker  Jun 23, 2015 6:00:02pm

re: #18 #FergusonFireside

What is tasty though, is the theory that to prove monetary loss, Chuck’s idjit lawyer recommended no more posting.

That thought crossed my mind yesterday, after hearing that he’d filed. I doubt it’ll work though as Twitter isn’t the only social media platform. There’s no reason he can’t reach plenty of people through FB, his blog, tumblr, etc. Laziness & greed will get you nowhere, son.

He must be gnashing his teeth over all that’s been going on since he got kicked off Twitter. If I wasn’t already a believer, that alone would be enough to make me believe in a supreme being.

34 KingKenrod  Jun 23, 2015 6:01:56pm
35 psddluva4evah  Jun 23, 2015 6:02:42pm
36 The War TARDIS  Jun 23, 2015 6:03:19pm

re: #33 CuriousLurker

He wouldn’t make it long on Tumblr. For some reason, it attraces a lot of Social Justice Warriors.

Reddit, he would do well.

37 EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2015 6:03:57pm

re: #24 Great White Snark

Progress is progress, I’ll take it. We have a short moment where the public Gets It. Genuinely repelled by this kid and his hate. So if the confederate flag can go down after a shoot like this why has universal registration not gotten any traction even after a number of high profile deadly mass shootings?!

What made this moment more powerful than all too many in the past that made big news but no real changes? It’s a societal mystery to me.

It doesn’t seem too mysterious to me. Unlike most mass shootings, this shooting was a clear-cut case of domestic terrorism rooted in white supremacist ideology. That has prompted a hard look at other visible symbols of this ideology (e.g., confederate flags on state government property). Even for Republicans, blatant white supremacism isn’t usually acceptable unless people aren’t paying attention.

However, this case is just like all the other mass shootings in that the effect on policies like universal registration will be zero.

38 De Kolta Chair  Jun 23, 2015 6:05:03pm

re: #31 allegro

And I suggest that the whole flag thing is just a bone to keep the subject off guns.

I wouldn’t say the whole thing, but definitely a goodly amount. But I do know the media must be relieved that it takes the heat off them for not talking about guns.

39 goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2015 6:05:48pm

re: #33 CuriousLurker

That thought crossed my mind yesterday, after hearing that he’d filed. I doubt it’ll work though as Twitter isn’t the only social media platform. There’s no reason he can’t reach plenty of people through FB, his blog, tumblr, etc. Laziness & greed will get you nowhere, son.

He must be gnashing his teeth over all that’s been going on since he got kicked off Twitter. If I wasn’t already a believer, that alone would be enough to make me believe in a supreme being.

Also, his suit against Gawker et al have nothing whatsoever to do with his Twitter ban. He’s just hoping that Gawker will pay him to go away. Which isn’t going to happen given that unlike every other defamation / libel suit Gawker has faced in the past, crushing Chuck would be fantastic PR for them. I expect them to either kill the suit in MO, or better yet file a motion demanding that it be moved to California where they then Anti-SLAPP him so hard he’ll wish he’d died as a child.

40 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 23, 2015 6:06:14pm

The neo-Confederate “Lost Cause” myth is collapsing before our eyes. It seems inadequate to call this a subculture or a worldview, it is in fact a world unto itself, one built on mountains of falsehood and delusion.
The ramifications are staggering, penetrating into every aspect of American culture and politics.

41 piratedan  Jun 23, 2015 6:07:36pm

re: #34 KingKenrod

upding for following Dr. Venture

42 De Kolta Chair  Jun 23, 2015 6:09:41pm

If and when South Carolina finally gets rid of that CSA flag, maybe they could do something about that ISIL flag that flies over the state capitol building.

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43 BeachDem  Jun 23, 2015 6:10:15pm

Just got back from a prayer vigil for the Charleston 9 at the local AME church. Observations:

1. Overall, very positive, very inspiring. Full house, very diverse group.

2. Tough room for a Jewish-raised atheist.

3. A bit too much praise for “brave” Nikki Haley.

4. Most of the points/issues raised could have been taken word for word from the Democratic platform. (so GOTV)

5. One of the speakers (in addition to the service and singing, there were 14 speakers) was a black minister who said he knew Roof, that Roof had been friends with his son in the 9th grade and had been to his house, and that he wasn’t like that then.

6. My state rep showed his ugly face (came in late, but was acknowledged—didn’t speak). He’s still a non-responder to the Post and Courier poll, and when one of my friends emailed him last night to ask how he was going to vote, he replied, “Thank you for writing.” (translation—fuck you very much.)

7. The most memorable line, from the main pastor, “We CHOOSE to live a life of forgiveness.” They called for prayers for Roof—saying he’s only 21 and has a chance at redemption. Kind people—much more forgiving/understanding than I.

(And as to upchuck’s tale—probably saw it when he was trick or treating at Duval Patrick’s house during an election year, when he gave out good candy. //

44 CuriousLurker  Jun 23, 2015 6:10:50pm

re: #24 Great White Snark

What made this moment more powerful than all too many in the past that made big news but no real changes? It’s a societal mystery to me.

I think a lot of it had to do with timing and the #BlackLivesMatter activism keeping all those police shootings in the foreground. It not only kept it in people’s consciousness for months on end, but also made them seriously take a look and admit what was going on—what IS and HAS BEEN going on since the first African slave arrived on our shores.

Add to that having a black POTUS & First Family who’ve been targeted with a disgusting amount of racism, the recent 50th anniversary of the Selma Civil Rights March… Also, when shit’s blowing up on Twitter the MSM can’t just ignore it or they’ll get scooped by blogs. A perfect storm, so to speak.

45 EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2015 6:11:04pm

re: #40 Shiplord Kirel

The neo-Confederate “Lost Cause” myth is collapsing before our eyes. It seems inadequate to call this a subculture or a worldview, it is in fact a world unto itself, one built on mountains of falsehood and delusion.
The ramifications are staggering, penetrating into every aspect of American culture and politics.

That seems to be a premature declaration of victory. What appears to be happening is that the most blatantly visible symbols of this ideology will finally be removed from state government sites. Useful progress, if it really happens, but a long way from the end of Civil War revisionism.

Even at the symbolic level, the victory would not be complete until the relevant state flags are changed (GA and MS, IIRC).

46 Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2015 6:12:14pm

re: #40 Shiplord Kirel

The neo-Confederate “Lost Cause” myth is collapsing before our eyes. It seems inadequate to call this a subculture or a worldview, it is in fact a world unto itself, one built on mountains of falsehood and delusion.
The ramifications are staggering, penetrating into every aspect of American culture and politics.

It’s really amazing how quickly this insane Confederate delusion is falling apart. Suddenly nobody wants to be associated with the Confederate flag.

Internet killed the Confederate flag.

47 Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2015 6:13:37pm
48 CuriousLurker  Jun 23, 2015 6:13:42pm

re: #42 De Kolta Chair

If and when South Carolina finally gets rid of that CSA flag, maybe they could do something about that ISIL flag that flies over the state capitol building.

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ROFLOL

49 Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 23, 2015 6:15:34pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

It’s really amazing how quickly this insane Confederate delusion is falling apart. Suddenly nobody wants to be associated with the Confederate flag.

Internet killed the Confederate flag.

It really is amazing to watch the panicked stampede away from the relics of the Confederacy by so much of the GOP leadership. That and how quickly it’s all happened.

50 CuriousLurker  Jun 23, 2015 6:17:25pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

It’s really amazing how quickly this insane Confederate delusion is falling apart. Suddenly nobody wants to be associated with the Confederate flag.

Internet killed the Confederate flag.

It really is amazing. It’s almost as if the flag suddenly turned into Ebola and everyone is running away from it.

51 psddluva4evah  Jun 23, 2015 6:22:24pm
52 Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2015 6:24:25pm
53 bmoak  Jun 23, 2015 6:26:02pm

The tape is probably in the same vault as Larry “Agent Flobee” Johnson’s whitey tape.

54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2015 6:26:13pm

Two more “yes” votes needed.

55 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 23, 2015 6:28:08pm

re: #3 Kid A

Who is Chuck Johnson?

JeSuisChuckelDeficante

56 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 23, 2015 6:29:00pm

I really thought that chuck’s career path would end with a paper hat and the smell of canola oil. Now I think I may have been over generous and now I see a squeege and a street corner

57 BeachDem  Jun 23, 2015 6:29:08pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Two more “yes” votes needed.

One Democrat who wouldn’t answer (not familiar with him—need to look him up)—the rest of the Dems all accounted for as YES in both the House and the Senate.

EDIT:
Ah, I see why—he’s listed as a Democrat, but he changed parties in 1996 and is now a Republican. (And an ALEC member.)

58 JadeHelmCurious  Jun 23, 2015 6:30:52pm

I changed it to Chuck… just in case.

59 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 23, 2015 6:31:04pm

I am seeing this retarded talking point all day long==>

60 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 23, 2015 6:31:11pm

re: #45 EPR-radar

That seems to be a premature declaration of victory. What appears to be happening is that the most blatantly visible symbols of this ideology will finally be removed from state government sites. Useful progress, if it really happens, but a long way from the end of Civil War revisionism.

Even at the symbolic level, the victory would not be complete until the relevant state flags are changed (GA and MS, IIRC).

The job is not done, and probably won’t be in my lifetime. Even so, this is a very significant victory and extends well beyond the removal of symbols from government sites. There are also the many retailers who have rejected the “heritage not hate” canard and who have done so quite suddenly. In many ways it is the first time this debate has made it into the mainstream at all, in the sense that it was “normal” until a few days ago for WalMart to have Confederate flags on sale. Respect for the “Confederate heritage” was the social norm in this country just days ago. I believe that this level of acceptability helped create a psychological bubble in which it was ok to be a racist. Now the whole idea has come up for debate and been ruled the loser in the blink of an eye. It is quite a remarkable spectacle.

61 piratedan  Jun 23, 2015 6:33:17pm

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

yeah, well the Democratic party has evolved, Amy, not so much.

62 EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2015 6:34:41pm

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel

Good points. I had forgotten about the big retailers getting out of the confederate flag business.

63 Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2015 6:34:57pm

TPP haters spewing hatred at the President.

64 goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2015 6:37:24pm

From a few hours ago. I still have no real idea what Michael’s concern here is, except for some abstract concept of creeping private censorship.

65 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 23, 2015 6:37:52pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

TPP haters spewing hatred at the President.

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Are they saying it was a false flag operation? /sorry

66 Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2015 6:38:16pm

SLIPPPERY SLOPE

67 gwangung  Jun 23, 2015 6:39:42pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

TPP haters spewing hatred at the President.

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So where was this asshole when Ferguson came about? Selling out their non-white brethren?

68 psddluva4evah  Jun 23, 2015 6:39:44pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Ok, this is just ri-donk-alous. The “speed” at which this shit is moving, tells me that alot of these companies and organizations are using this to get the Confed flag controversies off their backs for good. I suspect even if not high profile, companies are just tire of the bullshit that flag brings their way..

69 Jenner7  Jun 23, 2015 6:39:47pm

Rachel is good tonight. First segment will blow your mind. Watching her interview Myrlie Evers now.

70 goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2015 6:39:55pm

Some more hot takes on the issue.

71 #FergusonFireside  Jun 23, 2015 6:40:10pm

re: #43 BeachDem

Good on you for going. Praise!

72 CuriousLurker  Jun 23, 2015 6:43:27pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

Some more hot takes on the issue.

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How about if we ban hyperbolic fear mongering?

73 jaunte  Jun 23, 2015 6:43:32pm

re: #50 CuriousLurker

It really is amazing. It’s almost as if the flag suddenly turned into Ebola and everyone is running away from it.


EBOLA!!??!??!??!
74 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 23, 2015 6:44:12pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

“MADE IN CHINA”

75 goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2015 6:46:34pm

To me M.I.B’s point seems dangerously close to Chuck’s argument about Twitter. That a corporation can be so big, have such an enormous footprint that what it chooses not to distribute or be associated with becomes conflated with a 1st Amendment violation, or just a generic anti-American assault on free speech. But nobody’s speech or freedom has been stifled, you can still buy Confederate flags and Nazi flags and truck nuts and all the tacky shit you want to online if you can’t find a local brick and mortar retailer.

All any retailer has to do is treat their customers equally, it doesn’t have to stock what they want it to, nor does it have to continually suffer their abuse and disregard for its neutral rules of conduct.

76 piratedan  Jun 23, 2015 6:47:41pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

well it’s an opinion all right…. I don’t believe that the flag is an idea, I can see it as a symbol of an ideal. That symbol stands for something that we decry as a people. I don’t have an issue with banning that. So we return that symbol to a dark cult status, so be it, much better than tacitly accepting it in plain sight for everyone to see.

77 BeachDem  Jun 23, 2015 6:47:54pm

Thank you, Barbara Morrill:

Media slobbers over Nikki Haley because she … uh … said words about the Confederate flag

Nikki Haley finally got around to saying that perhaps flying the Confederate flag on the grounds of the state’s capitol wasn’t such a great idea. And praise from the media poured in. Haley was “bold,” “incisive,” and “showed leadership,” it was a “powerful call,” it was a “signature moment,” and on and on and on. One question: Did any of them actually listen to what Haley said?

dailykos.com

My sentiments exactly.

78 bratwurst  Jun 23, 2015 6:48:08pm

Can we PLEASE be done with this person? PLEASE?

Haley was born and raised in South Carolina, by the way.

79 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 23, 2015 6:48:21pm

Even when I was a little kid I thought there was something wrong about the persistent glorification of the rebel Confederacy. My dad was in the military, the self-same military that had fought and defeated the Confederacy in a bitter war for national survival. This was the same Confederacy whose economy had been based on the use of human beings as a form of livestock. When I was a kid, these events were still within living memory. Everywhere I went in the South, though, the Confederacy was praised and honored to the rafters. The history community and the media had a chance to set things straight during the Civil War Centenniel observance of 1961-65. Instead it was a whitewash, a final sappy validation of the Lost Cause just as the Civil Rights movement started the first serious pushback since Reconstruction. It has taken a very long time to bring this into the open, to shine the light of reason and history upon the myth, but it is happening. Perhaps the breathtaking pace of the collapse is just the release of tremendous pressure, a pressure that has been building for 150 years.

80 jaunte  Jun 23, 2015 6:49:16pm

re: #78 bratwurst

It was pretty odd to see her on CSPAN this morning, (talking over the callers that disagreed with her).

81 jaunte  Jun 23, 2015 6:50:31pm
82 jaunte  Jun 23, 2015 6:52:30pm
83 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 23, 2015 6:57:20pm

The cynic in me suspects that politicians have suddenly discovered that there aren’t as many neo-Confederate yokels as they had thought.

84 psddluva4evah  Jun 23, 2015 6:58:34pm

Good night. Gotta start to get ready for bed. It’s back to work for me tomorrow.

85 Joe Bacon  Jun 23, 2015 6:59:54pm

I believe that Wall Street sat the GOP bigwigs down and showed them the Sword of Demographics hanging over their collective heads.

Wall Street is making it clear that the Racism BS has to go.

86 Jenner7  Jun 23, 2015 7:00:27pm
87 EPR-radar  Jun 23, 2015 7:00:45pm

re: #83 Shiplord Kirel

The cynic in me suspects that politicians have suddenly discovered that there aren’t as many neo-Confederate yokels as they had thought.

That sounds about right. What are the yokels going to do about the removal of their precious symbols? Vote for Democrats? Hardly.

I think the chamber of commerce types have decided that at least the confederate flag is bad for business. If this extends to the rest of the lost cause garbage, so much the better.

88 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 23, 2015 7:00:55pm

re: #81 jaunte

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The Citadel? Just a few years ago, I referred to that institution as the “current headquarters of the Confederate Army.” We know it is serious now, the Lost Cause is freefalling right into the dustbin of history.

89 psddluva4evah  Jun 23, 2015 7:00:56pm

Before I go

90 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 23, 2015 7:04:44pm

I urge all remaining neo-Confederates to recognize the hopelessness of their position and to surrender immediately to the nearest representatives of the 21st century.
We promise fair treatment, good rations, and early parole. Oh, you can keep your horses for he spring plowing too.

91 jaunte  Jun 23, 2015 7:04:47pm

re: #86 Jenner7

Blaming the murdered for their own deaths is about as low as you can go.

92 Kid A  Jun 23, 2015 7:05:39pm

re: #69 Jenner7

Rachel is good tonight. First segment will blow your mind. Watching her interview Myrlie Evers now.

She was ON FIRE last night. God, I love her. If she was straight I’d marry her last year.

93 ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2015 7:06:08pm

re: #77 BeachDem

Thank you, Barbara Morrill:

Media slobbers over Nikki Haley because she … uh … said words about the Confederate flag

Nikki Haley finally got around to saying that perhaps flying the Confederate flag on the grounds of the state’s capitol wasn’t such a great idea. And praise from the media poured in. Haley was “bold,” “incisive,” and “showed leadership,” it was a “powerful call,” it was a “signature moment,” and on and on and on. One question: Did any of them actually listen to what Haley said?

dailykos.com

My sentiments exactly.

Me too! Yesterday about 2 minutes after the damn speech.

94 Belafon  Jun 23, 2015 7:08:11pm

re: #84 psddluva4evah

If they no can no longer threaten or blame blacks, then who will be responsible for all their problems?

95 ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2015 7:10:49pm

re: #80 jaunte

It was pretty odd to see her on CSPAN this morning, (talking over the callers that disagreed with her).

She realizes not one person with a brain and a little respect for what is right would ever buy and/or read her trash books. So, she plays to those that will. And she is perfectly fine with it all. It works for her. But damn I sure hope she is haunted by the soullessness of her existence.

96 Kid A  Jun 23, 2015 7:13:29pm

re: #94 Belafon

If they no can no longer threaten or blame blacks, then who will be responsible for all their problems?

Teh gayz.

97 #FergusonFireside  Jun 23, 2015 7:14:11pm

re: #68 psddluva4evah

Ok, this is just ri-donk-alous. The “speed” at which this shit is moving, tells me that alot of these companies and organizations are using this to get the Confed flag controversies off their backs for good. I suspect even if not high profile, companies are just tire of the bullshit that flag brings their way..

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Ole Miss? Ole Miss?

Beyond flabbergasted if true.

98 Kid A  Jun 23, 2015 7:14:32pm

re: #95 ObserverArt

I hate that bitch. There, I said it.

99 #FergusonFireside  Jun 23, 2015 7:17:29pm

re: #91 jaunte

Blaming the murdered for their own deaths is about as low as you can go.

‘Murica

100 Dark_Falcon  Jun 23, 2015 7:17:33pm

re: #4 ipsos

I think Nikki Haley is suffering from a derp - er, dearth - of creativity.

If the laws bar her from simply issuing an executive order to take the damn flag down, they surely DON’T bar her from issuing an executive order to surround that fairly short flagpole with a circle of taller flagpoles - 13 of them, let’ s say - flying our nation’s flag. Put the palmetto flag beneath it, too. Make ‘em good and big.

The law might say the traitor flag has to fly. It doesn’t say it has to be clearly visible, does it?

There. Solved all the world’s problems. Can I haz some single malt now?

That would be unwise. A removal done by act of the state legislature will be broadly seen as legitimate, but for Gov. Haley to enact that sort of fiat before the legislature has fairly had a chance to act would be taken badly by many people, including me. I’m all for taking that damned flag down, but the democratic process must be allowed to function. If the legislature fails to act then then an act of fiat might be in order, but certainly not before then.

101 CuriousLurker  Jun 23, 2015 7:17:49pm

I’m gonna call it a night, but for anyone coming in late & trying to catch up, here’s my list of people & organizations wanting the flag removed (I’m leaving out the Nikki Haley & others from SC):

• Walmart
• Amazon
• eBay
• Google
• Sears
• Kmart
• Target
• Valley Forge Flag Company (major flag manufaturer in PA)
• Warner Bros. (to be removed from Dukes of Hazzard car, Gen. Lee)
• KY State Fair Board to consider ban
• GA Gov. Nathan Deal seeks redesign of state-issued license plate
• VA Gov. McAuliffe orders Confederate flag be removed from license plates
• Mississippi House Speaker Philip Gunn: Confederate part of MS flag ‘needs to be removed’
• Ole Miss supports removing Confederate battle flag from state flag
• TN Gov. Bill Haslam supports discontinuing license plates that feature the Confederate battle flag and removing the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee statehouse
• The Citadel, The Military College of South Carolina, agreed to move its Confederate Naval Jack from its chapel to another site
• ABC News Rundown of Where the 2016 Candidates Stand on the Confederate Flag Issue

Pretty impressive list for one day, huh?

G’nite, lizards. ;-)

102 jaunte  Jun 23, 2015 7:18:34pm
103 #FergusonFireside  Jun 23, 2015 7:19:04pm

Ole Miss? Those students are going to riot. Lol

104 Kid A  Jun 23, 2015 7:19:08pm

re: #91 jaunte

Larry Pratt was on Ingraham’s show this morning and he blamed not only the church for being a gun-free zone but blamed the minister for voting against open carry while a state senator (senator, not sure). Pratt is a whore for the NRA; a disgusting excuse for a human.

105 Kid A  Jun 23, 2015 7:19:54pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

Well look who showed up and derped.

106 The Vicious Babushka  Jun 23, 2015 7:21:04pm
107 #FergusonFireside  Jun 23, 2015 7:21:08pm

Holy fuck.

108 Belafon  Jun 23, 2015 7:21:25pm

re: #105 Kid A

Well look who showed up and derped.

Since he’s here, someone should put the NRO picture of Deray here so he can talk about it.

109 CuriousLurker  Jun 23, 2015 7:21:32pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

I almost forgot—unrelated bonus:

Laters.

~~~~GONE~~~~

110 Lidane  Jun 23, 2015 7:21:52pm

re: #85 Joe Bacon

I believe that Wall Street sat the GOP bigwigs down and showed them the Sword of Demographics hanging over their collective heads.

Wall Street is making it clear that the Racism BS has to go.

I’m starting to think this is the case. Walmart, eBay, Amazon, etc. are all refusing to sell and/or stock the Confederate flag now. IBM is standing up to Jindal in Louisiana. Walmart, Apple, Google, and others have led pushback on those stupid “religious freedom” laws. Tons of big corporations have all filed amicus briefs in favor of marriage equality at SCOTUS.

I guess the corporate overlords are tired of having to deal with the yokels and with cultural issues. They want the GOP’s focus where it belongs — helping them skirt taxes. Cletus T. Inbred babbling about teh ghey or about a fake “war on Christians” gets in the way of that.

111 Dark_Falcon  Jun 23, 2015 7:24:26pm

re: #98 Kid A

I hate that bitch. There, I said it.

Me too. But my own feeling about Ann Coulter’s stubbornness on this matter is rather like that of the men of the Union 1st and 2nd Corps facing Pickett’s Charge: “Come on Johnnie Annie, keep on comin’!”

(That was what some of the Union soldiers shouted as the Graybacks advanced. Other men in blue, knowing that this time it was they who had the high ground and a stone wall in front of them, shouted “Fredericksburg! Fredericksburg!”.)

112 allegro  Jun 23, 2015 7:24:51pm

I see the confederate flag as a timely lightening rod. It’s been one racist murder after another since Trayvon for which we’ve seen no justice. Our racist culture has been blown into the open of late for all to see with blatant double standards right in our faces that can’t be ignored anymore. I think we’re collectively sick of this shit so the symbol of racism and hatred is now falling as a symbol of a country saying Enough!

113 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 23, 2015 7:28:07pm

re: #73 jaunte

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EBOLA!!??!??!??!

I know EXACTLY where that monstrosity of a statue is. It’s on private property along I-65, but the governor is being petitioned to allow the Dept of Trans. to plant trees to block the view of it from the highway.

Believe me, it’s not the finest piece of art in Nashville.

RBS

114 b_sharp  Jun 23, 2015 7:32:45pm

re: #78 bratwurst

Can we PLEASE be done with this person? PLEASE?

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Haley was born and raised in South Carolina, by the way.

She knows how to squeeze the wingnut udder.

115 BeachDem  Jun 23, 2015 7:36:30pm

re: #86 Jenner7

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Charming—he’s a declared NO—big surprise (I need to check and see if he’s working with my hideous rep to institute 3 weeks of 2nd amendment study in the schools—yeah, that’s the ticket. Spit)

116 piratedan  Jun 23, 2015 7:39:03pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

it’s as if we’re seeing a second Appomattix, a socially symbolic one

117 ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2015 7:39:12pm

I just read Haley’s speech from yesterday again. Here is the part that really bugged me when she said it:

The hate filled murderer who massacred our brothers and sisters in Charleston has a sick and twisted view of the flag. In no way does he reflect the people in our state who respect and, in many ways, revere it. Those South Carolinians view the flag as a symbol of respect, integrity, and duty. They also see it as a memorial, a way to honor ancestors who came to the service of their state during time of conflict. That is not hate, nor is it racism.

She is saying only one person has a sick and twisted view. She would have been better to say there are people in the state that have a sick and twisted view. Why? Because it needed to be said. Those that believe that need to know it is them that taking the flag down is aimed at. It is not just one killer. They have a state and a section of the country that think like that.

And why is she taking the flag down? Well in the next paragraph of her speech she said:

At the same time, for many others in South Carolina, the flag is a deeply offensive symbol of a brutally oppressive past. As a state we can survive, as we have done, while still being home to both of those viewpoints

So, at the same time it is offensive and needs to come down, but it is also a “symbol of respect, integrity, and duty.” Uh sorry. You can’t have it both ways. That is why you have had the damn problem and why you had a killer feeling it was his duty to protect that honor and integrity.

In my opinion it is two-faced bullshit.

I came across this at Mashable: Mixed reactions to South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley’s Confederate flag announcement

To me the money part of that piece at Mashable:

However, Haley’s announcement was hedged, including language that stopped short of condemning the flag, and in fact, defended its place in South Carolina’s heritage, even as she declared it too divisive to remain atop the capitol building:

Exactly.

So BeachDem if you are out there, and others that feel this way…we are not the only ones. Words mean something or they don’t.

118 BeachDem  Jun 23, 2015 7:44:27pm

re: #117 ObserverArt

I know we were both here watching it (and barfing) in real time. It’s just so typical of the media to elevate Nikki as some sort of superhero.

While I was at the prayer vigil tonight, every time somebody at the podium praised her, I muttered under my breath, “If we’d elected Vincent, the damn flag would have been gone already.”

The Guardian got it right:

The suit-fillers of Beltway media passed an energetic “She said yes!” through the Twitter-madding crowd with the enthusiasm of a lummox who proposes to his girlfriend on the ballgame Jumbotron and thumbs-up at 30,000 people after she bows to the peer pressure.

theguardian.com

119 Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 23, 2015 8:42:55pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

Abraham Riesman’s done it now, Chuck’s going to sue him in Johnston Atoll District Court.

*More like Johnson A-hole District Court, amirite?*

Sorry.

No, really.

Wakka-wakka?

I’ll see myself out.

I laughed.

I got my doctorate from University of Moruroa Atoll Online. We have a rivalry with Johnston Atoll.

/

120 CuriousLurker  Jun 23, 2015 9:28:28pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

• NASCAR—e gad, how could I forget them??

121 Grouting  Jun 24, 2015 1:32:53am

Have the Dukes of Hazard re-painted the roof of their car yet?

122 gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2015 9:19:17am

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

First they came for the confederate flag but I was not a racist fucknozzle so I said nothing …

123 KerFuFFler  Jun 24, 2015 9:21:38am

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

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For a split second I thought that was Chucky!


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