At Oklahoma Rally, Donald Trump Walks Over and Menaces a Protester

Getting worse at every rally
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I wasn’t going to post video of Trump’s rally in Oklahoma, but a rather disturbing moment just played out when a protester stood up with a shirt saying, “KKK endorses Trump,” and a yellow star badge.

Trump started ranting about him, of course, but then he stopped, walked slowly over to the protester, and stood there for a long few seconds menacing him. I honestly thought for a moment Trump was going to physically attack the guy, like he’s been saying he wishes he could.

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520 comments
1
freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:05:30pm

Donald Trump menaces the entire biosphere.

2
nines09  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:06:00pm

Trump just wants to remind everyone how it’s done. In The Punch Palace, first swing wins.

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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:06:00pm

This schtick is 100% Strongman.

4
De Kolta Chair  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:06:10pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:06:14pm

And the media won’t mention it, but if they do he’ll still come away looking like the “winner” and gain in the polls again.

I really am beginning to believe that he was right when he said he could shoot someone in the streets and not lose any votes.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:06:56pm

“…State Republican Party Chairman Steve House said the party’s 24-member executive committee made the unanimous decision Friday — six members were absent — to skip the preference poll.

The move, he said, would give Colorado delegates the freedom to support any candidate eligible at the Cleveland convention in July. Republican National Committee officials confirmed that the change complies with party rules.

“If we do a binding presidential preference poll, we would then pledge our delegates … and the candidates we bind them to may not be in the race by the time we get to the convention,” House said in an interview Tuesday.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:07:12pm

He looks and acts the part of a fascist more and more daily.

8
Billy Batts  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:07:14pm

Annnnnnnd his poll numbers will go up another three points.

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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:08:18pm

re: #6 jaunte

The Revolt of the Rockies.

I’ll dub thee.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:08:32pm

“Getting worse at every rally”

This is not loss of control. These scenes and the daily ramped-up rhetoric are calibrated and metronomically regular.

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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:09:00pm

re: #6 jaunte

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Is this an admission that the race is effectively over, or some bitter hope of the party that superdelegates can save them from Trump?

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:09:03pm

If Trump gets the Republican nomination, I forsee him trading the Armani suit for one designed by Hugo Boss.

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nines09  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:09:07pm

re: #6 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Dear Colorado GOP;
Hello Pussys.
Regards,
Donald

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:09:38pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

I think it’s the latter.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:09:41pm

re: #3 freetoken

This schtick is 100% Strongman.

This Strongman is 100% schtick.

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EPR-radar  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:09:51pm

So “Fascism will come to America wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” turned out to be wrong.

Instead Fascism is coming to America wrapped in a WWE costume and wearing The Hair.

This truly is a black swan event.

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b.d.  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:10:45pm

Ladies and Gentlemen, your Republican Party

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nines09  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:11:01pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

So “Fascism will come to America wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross” turned out to be wrong.

Instead Fascism is coming to America wrapped in a WWE costume and wearing The Hair.

This truly is a black swan event.

They only see what they wish to see. Or hear.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:11:08pm
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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:11:48pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:12:25pm

It goes without saying that if Obama had ever tried this shit, his campaign, let alone his career in politics, would have ended that very afternoon. Every news program for the following week would have played the clip to captions of “Angry Black Man.”

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EPR-radar  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:12:28pm

re: #10 Decatur Deb

“Getting worse at every rally”

This is not loss of control. These scenes and the daily ramped-up rhetoric are calibrated and metronomically regular.

I completely agree. The Democratic party needs to be working hard right now to figure out how to run in the general election vs. Trump, especially since it is clear that Trump is not limited by GOP orthodoxy.

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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:12:46pm

re: #6 jaunte

That’ll make those 24 delegates “noise” in the sophisticated algorithms at places like 538.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:13:40pm

re: #6 jaunte

Colin Woodard

So the Colorado GOP just cancelled prez caucus and made everyone a #superdelegate

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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:13:44pm

Why does it seem to me that Trump is trying to set the world up for WWIII?

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b.d.  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:13:57pm

Can they bring Christie back out so he can show Donald how to respect hecklers?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:13:57pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

It goes without saying that if Obama had ever tried this shit, his campaign, let alone his career in politics, would have ended that very afternoon. Every news program for the following week would have played the clip to captions of “Angry Black Man.”

You can get away with being an angry white dude. You can’t get away with being an annoyed black dude.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:14:48pm

Great job at screening your Department of Child Services applicants there, Indiana.

Call 6: White nationalist hired, fired by DCS

INDIANAPOLIS — Matthew Warren Heimbach has been called a white supremacist, a racist, a neo-Nazi and the future of organized hate in America.

The Indiana Department of Child Services hired Heimbach to be a family case manager in Dubois County, which is close to Paoli, where he lives with his wife and infant son.

He started with DCS as a family case manager trainee on January 11, 2016.
[…]
Heimbach, 24, has appeared on national news , including Nightline, for his views on white separatism.

DCS terminated Heimbach on January 28, less than three weeks after his hire date.

Maybe he should contact the Trump campaign. He would fit right in.

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EPR-radar  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:15:56pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

It goes without saying that if Obama had ever tried this shit, his campaign, let alone his career in politics, would have ended that very afternoon. Every news program for the following week would have played the clip to captions of “Angry Black Man.”

That seems optimistic to me. It assumes someone in the crowd didn’t shoot the “Angry Black Man” despite Secret Service protection.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:17:05pm

re: #25 freetoken

Why does it seem to me that Trump is trying to set the world up for WWIII?

Has options for a new reality series: “Duck and Cover”. The ratings will be yuuuuge.

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EPR-radar  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:17:38pm

re: #25 freetoken

Why does it seem to me that Trump is trying to set the world up for WWIII?

Once it becomes clear that the wonderful promises Trump has made to his supporters aren’t going to happen, Trump will need to start a war or two as a distraction.

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Billy Batts  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:18:22pm

re: #24 De Kolta Chair

Is that the Rage Furby on the right?

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nines09  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:18:57pm
“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters”.
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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:19:11pm

re: #28 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Great job at screening your Department of Child Services applicants there, Indiana.

Call 6: White nationalist hired, fired by DCS

Maybe he should contact the Trump campaign. He would fit right in.

In Indiana, being a white nationalist is a qualification.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:19:15pm
In no particular order
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:20:16pm

re: #24 De Kolta Chair

AAARGH! The Rage Furby And Pax Dickinson! I’m Blind!!!!!

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:20:50pm

re: #25 freetoken

Why does it seem to me that Trump is trying to set the world up for WWIII?

Did he bring up MacArthur again?

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:21:15pm
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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:22:28pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

Did he bring up MacArthur again?

No.

He just wants to pit one country against another.

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William of Orange  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:26:21pm

Perhaps he realized this t-shirt was actually telling the truth.

Also, his cousin was worried, and rightly so, that Donald is soiling the rump name. He had this added i his obituary.

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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:28:42pm

re: #40 William of Orange

That was not a real obit, you know.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:29:11pm

re: #25 freetoken

Why does it seem to me that Trump is trying to set the world up for WWIII?

Nah. He’s trying to set this country up for another civil war. A world war would just be a distraction.

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Brian J.  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:29:46pm

re: #38 jaunte

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That is a calumny against Huey Long who, for all of his bluster and threats, actually built public services for the state of Louisiana. (And a capitol building that was a monument to his own greatness, but that’s neither here nor there.)

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Jenner7  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:36:04pm

Anyone know the time in the video this happened?

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Testy Toad T  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:37:06pm

It will be interesting when people start feigning support for The Donald because they fear what his potential plutocratic fiefdom might do to those who speak out most strongly against him.

Hell, I dunno. Maybe we’ve reached that already.

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gocart mozart  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:38:46pm

What is political correctness? Trump hates “political correctness” so much, he wants to outlaw it and have cops beat up any PC offenders. PC of course is any viewpoint or opinion that Trump doesn’t agree with.

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EPR-radar  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:40:22pm

re: #42 GlutenFreeJesus

Nah. He’s trying to set this country up for another civil war. A world war would just be a distraction.

I don’t see Trump as being ideological enough to really want Civil War II. That’s more the goal of movement conservatism.

However, Trump would be perfectly willing to instigate pogroms etc. for the entertainment of his followers, provided he thinks the targets won’t fight back. So he’s more of an opportunistic bully and thug as opposed to a driven ideological zealot like Cruz.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:42:10pm

re: #44 Jenner7

It’s at about 36:00.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:43:11pm

re: #43 Brian J.

That is a calumny against Huey Long who, for all of his bluster and threats, actually built public services for the state of Louisiana. (And a capitol building that was a monument to his own greatness, but that’s neither here nor there.)

That’s the weird thing about corrupt populist Louisiana politicians - at least at the state level. People like Huey Long in the 30s and Edwin Edwards in the 70s/80s were corrupt as all hell, but they weren’t lining their own pockets in the process - they were upgrading infrastructure and bringing in business projects for the state.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:43:54pm

Sorry - no, it starts at about 1:18:04. I was looking at the time left.

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Jenner7  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:44:23pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Thank you.

That guy was pretty damn brave to do that. You never know with his supporters.

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SirMixALot  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:46:09pm

I wish the protester egged on Trump to get closer, “come at me bro” style. Once Trump walked away the protester could call him a loser. Putting that bully in his place would drop his poll numbers in an instant.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:46:12pm

I just set the video to start at that point.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:46:23pm

Trump returns to podium:
“You see… in the good old days, law enforcement acted a lot quickly than this. A lot quickly.”

This man’s first language is English.

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Skip Intro  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:48:11pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

I completely agree. The Democratic party needs to be working hard right now to figure out how to run in the general election vs. Trump, especially since it is clear that Trump is not limited by GOP orthodoxy.

The Democratic party needs to what?

I have to admit you made me chuckle. This Democratic party couldn’t make water from ice.

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Skip Intro  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:52:42pm

re: #54 jaunte

Trump returns to podium:
“You see… in the good old days, law enforcement acted a lot quickly than this. A lot quickly.”

This man’s first language is English.

Once again he’s right. Ignoring his Palin-like speech problem, in the good old days Trump and the GOP dream about that protester would already have been strung up over a lamppost.

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BeachDem  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:53:18pm

re: #47 EPR-radar

I don’t see Trump as being ideological enough to really want Civil War II. That’s more the goal of movement conservatism.

However, Trump would be perfectly willing to instigate pogroms etc. for the entertainment of his followers, provided he thinks the targets won’t fight back. So he’s more of an opportunistic bully and thug as opposed to a driven ideological zealot like Cruz.

So those pogroms won’t be ideological in nature, but the people will be just as dead?

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KGxvi  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:53:43pm

re: #25 freetoken

Why does it seem to me that Trump is trying to set the world up for WWIII?

Because history has repeatedly shown that the big money is in War, Inc. And since The Donald is such a great businessman, that’s obviously the play.

Either that or he’s an idiot.

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lawhawk  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:54:46pm

GOP on GOP extremist batcrap insanity:

They think that Trump shouldn’t have the codes.
They think that the GOP must win in November or else lose the chance to shape the Supreme Court.

I agree - with both.

Trump and the GOP must lose in November. Democrats must do everything possible to win back the Senate and deny the GOP the obstructionism they’ve engaged in for the past 7 years.

Nothing less may possibly bring about a reckoning of the batcrap insanity that the GOP is dragging the nation into.

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Kragar  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:54:50pm

So apparently “Gods of Egypt” is really, really bad…

So a Scottish-Egyptian god played by Gerard Butler assassinates an Australian-Egyptian god played by Bryan Brown, and then usurps the throne of Egypt. The rightful heir, a Danish-Egyptian god played by Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, is blinded and banished to the desert, but then Aladdin (Brenton Thwaites) steals back one of the missing eyes from a Prince of Persia demo level and they embark on an epic quest to bicker a lot and walk past green screen backgrounds.

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KGxvi  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:55:32pm

re: #54 jaunte

Trump returns to podium:
“You see… in the good old days, law enforcement acted a lot quickly than this. A lot quickly.”

This man’s first language is English.

I said it earlier today, he’s the most inarticulate potential presidential nominee from a major party in my lifetime. And I’m not sure it’s even close.

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Skip Intro  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:56:46pm

re: #57 BeachDem

So those pogroms won’t be ideological in nature, but the people will be just as dead?

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Trump pogroms would be really classy ones, done by really classy people. The people they attack will be pleased by the classy beatings and killings done to them, as will their families.

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Skip Intro  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:58:05pm

re: #61 KGxvi

Could be early Altzheimers.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:58:49pm

re: #62 Skip Intro

Trump pogroms would be really classy ones, done by really classy people. The people they attack will be pleased by the classy beatings and killings done to them, as will their families.

Gold lamé uniforms.

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EPR-radar  Feb 26, 2016 • 5:59:07pm

re: #55 Skip Intro

The Democratic party needs to what?

I have to admit you made me chuckle. This Democratic party couldn’t make water from ice.

Winning a general election in 2016 vs. Trump may be easier than making water from ice, but I have my doubts.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:00:39pm

re: #58 KGxvi

Either that or he’s an idiot.

One needs to look at what his holdings are-I doubt he’s knee-deep into the military-industrial complex as that is beyond his intelligence.

He’s a brand, and nothing more. I hope that the DNC and the Clinton Campaign have done enough oppo on him to make him so unpalatable when it comes to the general that she can win-unfortunately, Hills has her own baggage and it isn’t going away all that quickly.

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Skip Intro  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:01:56pm

re: #65 EPR-radar

Winning a general election in 2016 vs. Trump may be easier than making water from ice, but I have my doubts.

It should be, but where the hell are they? How much material do they need?

The Dems ought to be blasting the GOP every single day, but out here on the left coast I see nothing.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:02:17pm

I’m creating a clip of just this section of the video, will post it when YouTube finishes processing.

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Skip Intro  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:03:16pm

re: #66 Eric The Fruit Bat

I think you can forget about the DNC. They’re hopeless.

What we need is the feared Clinton Machine I’ve always heard about. I hope it really exists.

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Jenner7  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:03:49pm

Very clever. Never heard that one before. //

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:05:19pm

It’s awfully convenient that someone with a kkk shirt shows up after Trump had to answer about David Duke.

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Skip Intro  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:05:23pm

re: #54 jaunte

Trump returns to podium:
“You see… in the good old days, law enforcement acted a lot quickly than this. A lot quickly.”

This man’s first language is English.

Yeahbutt for the first five years he could speak, the only word he knew was “me”.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:09:13pm

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:09:15pm

re: #71 Belafon

It’s awfully convenient that someone with a kkk shirt shows up after Trump had to answer about David Duke.

It could be kayfabe, true. But Trump is engendering a LOT of ill will, and there are plenty of genuine protesters at his rallies. I think this one was probably real too.

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EPR-radar  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:10:44pm

re: #67 Skip Intro

It should be, but where the hell are they? How much material do they need?

The Dems ought to be blasting the GOP every single day, but out here on the left coast I see nothing.

It is nerve-wracking. I know that in primary season the main effort is intra-party, but the lack of a consistent Democratic party line messaging organization is really not helpful.

Democratic messaging to the effect that the Republicans are against absolutely everything except tax cuts for rich Birchers needs to be out there at all times.

In fact, I’d like to see Democratic candidates run on a message of “You say I’m running merely as not being a Republican? Hell yes! The Republican party is against A, B,C, …, X, Y, Z. Here’s all the evidence you’ll ever need for this. I’m for these things, like infrastructure, good schools, safe drinking water, etc.”

You can’t win if you don’t show up was the bitter lesson of the passage of proposition 8 in California in 2008.

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:10:46pm

It’s the primaries folks. Let the Republicans go after each other for now. The party is tearing itself apart. Do you really want to distract them with “look at what Hillary said”?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:13:28pm

re: #67 Skip Intro

It should be, but where the hell are they? How much material do they need?

The Dems ought to be blasting the GOP every single day, but out here on the left coast I see nothing.

Well they’re busy wasting time, energy, goodwill and money in a pretty futile primary cycle.

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fern01  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:15:13pm

re: #67 Skip Intro

It should be, but where the hell are they? How much material do they need?

The Dems ought to be blasting the GOP every single day, but out here on the left coast I see nothing.

I’ve seen little of the dems blasting the GOP over the past 7 years - if they had just maybe there would be a few more dem governors/senators. Then again, who knows if the media would even publish any GOP blasting - given they are the bff of said GOP

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:18:54pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Well they’re busy wasting time, energy, goodwill and money in a pretty futile primary cycle.

If the participants are smart, and Clinton learned a lot from 2008, they’re preparing the infrastructure they’re setting up to use in the general election.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:20:48pm

re: #79 Belafon

If the participants are smart, and Clinton learned a lot from 2008, they’re preparing the infrastructure they’re setting up to use in the general election.

Hope so. Not finding much of it in N Florida, where it’s critical.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:20:50pm

re: #73 jaunte

Embedded Image

hahahahahahahhaha. I just tweeted it to him.

and hat tipped you

we are probably fucked. sorry.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:24:43pm

Of COURSE he did.

UPDATED: Mississippi Governor Declares April ‘Confederate Heritage Month,’ No Slavery Mention

On Bryant’s gubernatorial letterhead, the proclamation starts out by explaining that April is the appropriate month to honor Confederate heritage because it “is the month in which the Confederate States began and ended a four-year struggle.” It adds that the state celebrates Confederate Memorial Day on April 25 to “recognize those who served in the Confederacy.”

[…]
Bryant refuses to take a position on changing the Mississippi flag, saying it should be up to the voters, who decided in 2001 to leave the old flag in place, in a vote that fell largely along racial lines.

Mississippi, along with Arkansas and Alabama, also celebrate Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee’s birthday on the same day as the federal Martin Luther King Jr. birthday in January.

Here’s the proclamation itself:

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:25:31pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:34:19pm

re: #40 William of Orange

Also, his cousin was worried, and rightly so, that Donald is soiling the rump name. He had this added i his obituary.

Alas…

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scottslemmons  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:40:17pm

Spent the day sick with my second case of strep this month. On the bright side, I got to see this fuzzy creature sitting on my front porch:

Instagram

Lo! A wee kitten on my porch!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:40:36pm

re: #71 Belafon

He wrote it in marker on a plain white shirt. People are paying attention to this guy. And they don’t all agree.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:41:12pm

The 2:24 clip is now posted above.

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retired cynic  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:41:32pm

re: #85 scottslemmons

Spent the day sick with my second case of strep this month. On the bright side, I got to see this fuzzy creature sitting on my front porch:

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Pretty Kitty! I hope you feel better soon. Strep x 2 sucks!

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retired cynic  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:43:39pm

The Rude Pundit’s take on last night (hope I’m not repeating somebody!):
rudepundit.blogspot.com

“Another disgraceful evening in the Republican primary season is over. Let’s all have fruit salad and hang out with Polish workers and try to forget that the future of the nation might end up in the slime-encrusted hands of one of these ethical lepers.”

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gocart mozart  Feb 26, 2016 • 6:50:08pm

re: #89 retired cynic
I need to read the rude pundit more often.

You know how in high school there was a loudmouth dickhead football player who was verbally abusive and a buffoon but somehow had tons of friends and got all the tail? Yeah, that guy. That’s Trump. Meanwhile, Rubio acts like an altar boy who’s upset that he’s the only one not molested by the priest. Cruz is the prick who wanted so badly to be the class clown but is just a cruel prankster whose asshole dad thinks he’s funny. - See more at: rudepundit.blogspot.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:00:59pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

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I remember when he was trendy with Republicans since he got on well with Bush.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:02:09pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:02:51pm

re: #93 jaunte

He really has no self-awareness, does he?

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:02:57pm

You mean “emphatically” Donald, not “horribly.”

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teleskiguy  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:03:26pm

The Donald™ is not as healthy as he says he is. I’m looking at this video and even in those five figure suits he wears you can tell he’s pretty fuckin’ soggy in the mid-section. I question this man’s supposed cast iron constitution that was espoused by his supposed personal physician some time ago.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:03:43pm

re: #93 jaunte

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No, you encourage violence against people who disagree with you.

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teleskiguy  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:04:09pm

re: #93 jaunte

A UPROAR, I TELLS YOU!!!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:04:11pm

re: #93 jaunte

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“F-word”? Prissy fuck.

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makeitstop  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:04:31pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

Why was Bartoromo screaming like a loon in that clip?

Joey Ramone would be disappointed.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:06:26pm

re: #96 teleskiguy

The Donald™ is not as healthy as he says he is. I’m looking at this video and even in those five figure suits he wears you can tell he’s pretty fuckin’ soggy in the mid-section. I question this man’s supposed cast iron constitution that was espoused by his supposed personal physician some time ago.

And his hair is getting crispier at every appearance. THIS is what’s going to kill him.

Unless the thought of the gold white house is more powerful.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:06:28pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:07:21pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

I declare Vicente Fox’s comments a bigly

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:08:44pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:11:42pm

re: #102 jaunte

Heh! It’s funny to see conservative Twitter power users (Jonah Goldberg, Will Antonin, David Burge, Politibunny, the list goes on) in total freak out mode right now. Hey, you numbskulls nurtured this nightmare that is President Donald Trump that we all have to deal with.

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makeitstop  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:12:48pm

re: #104 jaunte

Since Donald Trumps hates having little fingers, we should bring it up. A lot.

Trumpelina! I like it.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:13:47pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:15:34pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:16:53pm

re: #6 jaunte

So the Colorado GOP just cancelled prez caucus and made everyone a #superdelegate via @denverpost

What’s the deal with that article?
It was originally posted six months ago, in August. But says it was updated a couple hours ago. But, it doesn’t specifically state what changes were made, if any.
The comments are all six months old too. So there doesn’t seem to be anything new here, and the Col. GOP made this decision six months ago.

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nines09  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:17:22pm
We stand at ancient ruins and wonder what went wrong. How did this happen?

I’ve had far too much fun with this cap generator. Sorry if I’ve overstepped my limit, but damn…this is fun to do. Trump is completely comfortable with lying in front of anyone and then telling them the tape and video was taken out of context. He could count the beads of sweat on the brow of Ted Cruz, but had no idea David Duke endorsed him? He has learned in front of cameras for the last 40 years that appearance is all. He could hand you a nickel and convince you it was a quarter, and you would walk away feeling like you made a buck. Magnificent indeed. Consummate con. Grifter Inc. Charlatan at large, on your dime. I just hope all he destroys is the GOP. But I suspect they will line up to kiss his ass, and commit to fealty under threat of excommunication from that which they built. Pussy indeed. He is the GOP. You can now kiss the ring.
This just in from Mexico….Pendejo? No mas mierda, jódete.
Goodnight all…

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Dave In Austin  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:20:28pm

Maher:
“Trump is like Climate Change. We always saw it coming but didn’t do anything about it.”

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:21:41pm

I guess Bernie went back to SC

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Skip Intro  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:28:47pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

Heh! It’s funny to see conservative Twitter power users (Jonah Goldberg, Will Antonin, David Burge, Politibunny, the list goes on) in total freak out mode right now. Hey, you numbskulls nurtured this nightmare that is President Donald Trump that we all have to deal with.

They’ll never accept that, never, never, never. They’re genetically incapable of accepting blame.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:29:01pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:30:48pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:33:17pm

Anyone mention that Gov LePage endorsed Trump this afternoon? Seems legit, though I skimmed it from Freep.

Edited for CNN link:
cnn.com

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:34:29pm
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stpaulbear  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:34:48pm

re: #114 jaunte

I like how they dropped one of Christie’s chins over the text.

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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:34:54pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

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I guess Bernie went back to SC

Pulled out ad buys and campaign staff, but came back the day before to stump for the same crowd that Hillary just met.

You can practically smell the desperation…or maybe that’s fried fish.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:35:32pm

re: #118 stpaulbear

Keeps the N snugged tightly to its baseline.

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BeachDem  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:39:56pm

re: #80 Decatur Deb

Hope so. Not finding much of it in N Florida, where it’s critical.

Just wanted to share a little election eve anecdote. Bernie’s campaign sends an email saying they want to get 50,000 contributions in one day. No mention of the primary tomorrow.

Hillary’s email is a “do you know where to vote tomorrow” with a link to find your polling place and a number to call if the link doesn’t work.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:41:57pm

re: #116 Decatur Deb

Anyone mention that Gov LePage endorsed Trump this afternoon? Seems legit, though I skimmed it from Freep.

Yeah, Ben Terris @bterris from WashPost posted some running tweets earlier today.
Tweet below should lead you to them

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:42:40pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

I completely agree. The Democratic party needs to be working hard right now to figure out how to run in the general election vs. Trump, especially since it is clear that Trump is not limited by GOP orthodoxy.

I am sure that they are.

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teleskiguy  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:42:43pm

Ski porn break. One of the most iconic steep ski runs in the United States, Corbet’s Couloir underneath the Jackson Hole Mountain Resort tram.

Behind The Scenes - Corbet’s Couloir

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:51:09pm

Good evening, yuge losers.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:54:02pm

re: #28 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Great job at screening your Department of Child Services applicants there, Indiana.

Call 6: White nationalist hired, fired by DCS

Maybe he should contact the Trump campaign. He would fit right in.

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BeachDem  Feb 26, 2016 • 7:54:54pm

re: #122 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, Ben Terris @bterris from WashPost posted some running tweets earlier today.
Tweet below should lead you to them

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And Susan Sarandon went on fucking Boston Herald radio to blow bad notes on Hillary. All in a day’s work.

Then MSNBC tonight had BREAKING NEWS—a TRUMP rally. Yeah, cause it’s a day that ends in y.

Also, I’ve been trying to cut Rachel some slack about her all trump all the time coverage—figuring she couldn’t really do much about it. But then Melissa Harris-Perry stood up to be counted, and she (MHP) has a lot more to lose and a lot less leverage, so now I’m pissed off at and really disappointed in Rachel for going along with that shit.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:00:52pm

re: #67 Skip Intro

It should be, but where the hell are they? How much material do they need?

The Dems ought to be blasting the GOP every single day, but out here on the left coast I see nothing.

Hillary is saving her ammunition for the general.

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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:01:35pm

538 has Trump winning everything going forward, except for Texas.

I believe that March 15th will be the end. With winner-take-all primaries, in which Trump is projected to win, the delegate lead will be insurmountable.

Now, given what the Colorado GOP did today, I guess some states’ GOPs might be able to follow along, but they’ll have to do it quickly.

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Skip Intro  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:03:37pm

re: #130 freetoken

The cable channels are going to devastated losing all of that Trump revenue they sold their souls for.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:04:21pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:04:28pm

re: #130 freetoken

538 has Trump winning everything going forward, except for Texas.

I believe that March 15th will be the end. With winner-take-all primaries, in which Trump is projected to win, the delegate lead will be insurmountable.

Now, given what the Colorado GOP did today, I guess some states’ GOPs might be able to follow along, but they’ll have to do it quickly.

CHAOS

In our lifetime. It’s going to be pretty good.

Until martial law & yellow badges & that shit.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:08:38pm

re: #130 freetoken

Is there some loophole where the party can choose not to accept him as the nominee? I mean, shit, they can deny their constitutional duty to consider a Supreme Court nominee, so having cold feet about Shitlord Trump should be easy peasy Japanesey.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:09:32pm

Trump paid him off, pure corruption.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:10:30pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

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Trump paid him off, pure corruption.

Saw a story where Christie & his wife went to Manhattan on Thursday night to meet with Mr. & Mrs. Trump.

my gag.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:11:47pm

(I’m guessing) Melania poured tea. From the regular kitchen. Not the kid’s kitchen where all the food is cooked.

GAG

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:17:58pm

re: #134 Pawn of the Oppressor

Is there some loophole where the party can choose not to accept him as the nominee? I mean, shit, they can deny their constitutional duty to consider a Supreme Court nominee, so having cold feet about Shitlord Trump should be easy peasy Japanesey.

They all made a promise to support the nominee, Mr. Frodo. A promise. They thought they were tying Trump’s hands to keep him from running as an independent. Little did they know they had sold their souls to Trump.

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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:21:43pm

re: #134 Pawn of the Oppressor

Well, Colorado was a caucus state, and that allowed their state GOP some latitude to change their rules, basically saying that the final 24 delegates they send to the convention will not be pledged to anyone.

Somehow, the national RNC is fine with this.

If you look at the list:
nytimes.com

Samoa is sending unpledged delegates. Wyoming is sending unpledged delegates. Guam and North Dakota likewise.

Alaska
Kentucky
Maine
Kansas
Hawaii
Mariana Islands
Virgin Islands
Idaho

All have caucuses. I don’t know if they will change their rules to let their delegates go to the convention unpledged.

Washington state has some hybrid system.

In theory, even if Trump wins all the remaining contests with pledged delegates, if the other candidates can peel off enough delegates to keep Trump from making the bar (50%+1), then the second vote goes open (with many pledged delegates released from their pledges.)

So, if the RNC wanted to, they could try to get those remaining caucus states to change their rules to be like Colorado, and hope that Trump doesn’t make the minimum needed.

Then the convention gets to decide the candidate.

But I don’t know about the rules and bylaws of each states’ Republican party - whether they have the freedom to change the rules like Colorado just did.

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makeitstop  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:24:14pm

re: #138 Big Beautiful Door

They all made a promise to support the nominee, Mr. Frodo. A promise. They thought they were tying Trump’s hands to keep him from running as an independent. Little did they know they had sold their souls to Trump.

Those chumps break promises to their constituents all the time.

Now suddenly they found some perverted sense of honor honer?

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:24:57pm

TV review….

I am watching The People vs OJ. Catching on 3 & 4.

I had just moved to CA at that time & of course was glued to the new reality TV show. I totally thought OJ did it, it was so fucking gross, horrible & pretty obvious. BUT the LAPD fucked it up beyond a conviction. They fucked it up so bad. & the defense lawyers were good on it. (a scene now where they are darkening up OJ’s booking photo)

Watching this reenactment is pretty interesting. Cuba Gooding Jr., while not having any of the physical attributes of OJ conveys his fucked up mind.

Unfortunately saw a scene of Robert Kardashian’s kids. Each one perfectly matched with a young actor. Good, because a lot of their fans don’t realize the connection.

But so far, Sarah Paulson is KILLING it as Marcia Clark. Emmy City.

Last line of this post most important.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:28:55pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

LAPD Framed a Guilty man

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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:31:08pm

If I counted right, the states/territories will send 111 unpledged delegates to the Republican convention.

If some of those caucus states join Colorado that number will go up.

Trump needs something like 1237 pledged delegates. If the RNC really wants to keep him at bay, they will need to get some of those other states to do exactly what Colorado did, and then manipulate the delegates on the floor. They will also need to help the remaining 4 other candidates to stay in the race and drain delegates away from Trump in proportional primary states.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:32:24pm

re: #142 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

LAPD Framed a Guilty man

Pretty much. I remember the trail of evidence most of all. Or the lack of.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:34:49pm

re: #143 freetoken

If I counted right, the states/territories will send 111 unpledged delegates to the Republican convention.

If some of those caucus states join Colorado that number will go up.

Trump needs something like 1237 pledged delegates. If the RNC really wants to keep him at bay, they will need to get some of those other states to do exactly what Colorado did, and then manipulate the delegates on the floor. They will also need to help the remaining 4 other candidates to stay in the race and drain delegates away from Trump in proportional primary states.

The RNC doesn’t have the brains to pull off a scheme like that. I think Trump will almost certainly be the nominee.

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prairiefire  Feb 26, 2016 • 8:54:56pm

re: #144 Stanley Sea

I wish people would realize that when leather gets wet, it shrinks. When a glove is soaked in wet, liquid blood, it shrinks.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:03:51pm

re: #146 prairiefire

I wish people would realize that when leather gets wet, it shrinks. When a glove is soaked in wet, liquid blood, it shrinks.

The whole scene was so fucked up.

I’m loving Courtney Vance as Johnnie Cochran. May he RIP.

Are you watching?

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teleskiguy  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:05:20pm

re: #146 prairiefire

I wish people would realize that when leather gets wet, it shrinks.

As a lifelong skier who has gone through I-don’t-know-how-many gloves I can attest to the moisture retention of leather if not properly waterproofed. Even when waterproofed the leather shrinks over time with repeated use. I use leather mittens on days of truly winter conditions, and I have to replace them about every four or five years because they *shrink* from all the moisture.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:05:21pm
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retired cynic  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:05:30pm

There is an article in the Washington Monthly by Peter Shane (Constitutional Law Professor at Ohio State) about the SCOTUS mess. Bunch of other articles about the same mess linked along the right side.

washingtonmonthly.com

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prairiefire  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:06:40pm

re: #147 Stanley Sea

No, one time around is enough for me. The way Marcia Clark was treated, ugh.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:06:48pm

I’m just doing a drive by…. Got home from work and realized that at some point during the day the clip with my house / mail box keys had separated from the key ring. Back to Starbucks (where I stopped on the way home) and the shop to look for them. I keep an extra house key secured outside, but I’m going to have to go and get a new mailbox key.

On the plus side, I installed Zorin OS Linux on my old netbook and I think I like it. Have to get used to it, but it’s a distro that’s highly recommended for newbs like me.

Have a great evening, I’ll catch you sometime tomorrow.

RBS

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:08:34pm

re: #151 prairiefire

No, one time around is enough for me. The way Marcia Clark was treated, ugh.

You should check this out. I’m definitely appreciating it.

And yes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:13:29pm

Re: The People vs OJ

Who’s playing Mark Fuhrman?

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:14:24pm

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

Re: The People vs OJ

Who’s playing Mark Fuhrman?

Not there yet. But the defense already investigating him.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:16:26pm

He seems nice, not unstable at all.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:16:29pm

Sterling K. Brown as Christopher Darden
Kenneth Choi as Judge Lance Ito
Christian Clemenson as William Hodgman
Cuba Gooding, Jr. as O. J. Simpson
Bruce Greenwood as Gil Garcetti
Nathan Lane as F. Lee Bailey
Sarah Paulson as Marcia Clark
David Schwimmer as Robert Kardashian
John Travolta as Robert Shapiro
Courtney B. Vance as Johnnie Cochran

There’s others.

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Interesting Times  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:16:30pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

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Though I was familiar with most of the memes it spawed, I never actually saw Idiocracy until today. Is there such a genre as horror-documentary?

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teleskiguy  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:17:43pm

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

Re: The People vs OJ

Who’s playing Mark Fuhrman?

What about Kato Kaelin?!? That fuckin’ guy.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:18:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:19:39pm

re: #159 teleskiguy

What about Kato Kaelin?!? That fuckin’ guy.

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The actor playing him? Spot on.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:20:13pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:23:32pm

They ALL wanted this gig

Chris Bauer as Det. Tom Lange
Selma Blair as Kris Jenner
Jordana Brewster as Denise Brown
Connie Britton as Faye Resnick
Saareesh Churiwala as Lou Brown
Dale Godboldo as Carl E. Douglas
Evan Handler as Alan Dershowitz
Cheryl Ladd as Linell Shapiro
Billy Magnussen as Kato Kaelin
Michael McGrady as Det. Phillip Vannatter
Rob Morrow as Barry Scheck
Robert Morse as Dominick Dunne
Angel Parker as Shawn Chapman
Steven Pasquale as Det. Mark Fuhrman
Kwame Patterson as Michael Darden
Leonard Roberts as Dennis Schatzman
Romy Rosemont as Jill Shively
Keesha Sharp as Dale Cochran
Duane Shepard Sr. as Mr. Darden
Joseph Siravo as Fred Goldman
Malcolm-Jamal Warner as Al Cowlings
Isabella Balbi as Kourtney Kardashian
Veronica Galvez as Kim Kardashian
Morgan E. Bastin as Khloé Kardashian
Nicolas Bechtel as Rob Kardashian

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:23:49pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

“1938loren”

OK.
/

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teleskiguy  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:24:08pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

He seems nice, not unstable at all.

@1938loren: Next black guy who gets in my face for being a jew is going down with extreme malice. These thugs dont scare me. Sick of this shit.

Now way no how Twitter has a problem with threats and harassment. That’s unpossible!@!

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:24:55pm

Sorry guys. This is pretty darn interesting to me. Starting on #4 My last to catch up.

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MsJ  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:32:10pm

re: #151 prairiefire

No, one time around is enough for me. The way Marcia Clark was treated, ugh.

How was she treated? I watched the real trial and the prosecution was terrible - at every stage, especially Clark. After how she handled the coroner on the stand, I knew they’d lose. I kept hoping but she was that bad.

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BeachDem  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:47:20pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

They ALL wanted this gig

Chris Bauer as Det. Tom Lange
Selma Blair as Kris Jenner
Jordana Brewster as Denise Brown
Connie Britton as Faye Resnick
Saareesh Churiwala as Lou Brown
Dale Godboldo as Carl E. Douglas
Evan Handler as Alan Dershowitz
Cheryl Ladd as Linell Shapiro
Billy Magnussen as Kato Kaelin
Michael McGrady as Det. Phillip Vannatter
Rob Morrow as Barry Scheck
Robert Morse as Dominick Dunne
Angel Parker as Shawn Chapman
Steven Pasquale as Det. Mark Fuhrman
Kwame Patterson as Michael Darden
Leonard Roberts as Dennis Schatzman
Romy Rosemont as Jill Shively
Keesha Sharp as Dale Cochran
Duane Shepard Sr. as Mr. Darden
Joseph Siravo as Fred Goldman
Malcolm-Jamal Warner as Al Cowlings
Isabella Balbi as Kourtney Kardashian
Veronica Galvez as Kim Kardashian
Morgan E. Bastin as Khloé Kardashian
Nicolas Bechtel as Rob Kardashian

I also watched every minute of the trial when it happened—I remember Robert Kardashian, but don’t recall Kris or any of his children having fuck all to do with anything.

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MsJ  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:52:01pm

re: #168 BeachDem

I also watched every minute of the trial when it happened—I remember Robert Kardashian, but don’t recall Kris or any of his children having fuck all to do with anything.

I read something not too long ago about OJ going to the Kardashian home, going to one of the girls rooms, and talking about killing himself. Kris Jenner was friends with Nicole Brown and they were all part of the same social circle. It was a kinda fascinating read.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:52:16pm

re: #168 BeachDem

They are making it bigger than it was I’m sure. Are they getting a cut??? I thought they hid their association. Now it’s common knowledege. Kinda.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:52:26pm

Sarah Palin, not quite working out as Trump had hoped, turned to Christie, with a few million bucks in hand no doubt, to take her place.

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MsJ  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:54:22pm

re: #171 GlutenFreeJesus

Sarah Palin, not quite working out as Trump had hoped, turned to Christie, with a few million bucks in hand no doubt, to take her place.

Even Trump realized Palin is a moron. I’m sure this speech did her in.

Yosemite Sarah Palin

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:55:07pm

re: #171 GlutenFreeJesus

Sarah Palin, not quite working out as Trump had hoped, turned to Christie, with a few million bucks in hand no doubt, to take her place.

He dropped Sarah fast.

Used her for the “special announcement” for one rally. Got CNN & everyone on board.

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prairiefire  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:57:12pm

re: #167 MsJ

Too much talk about her hairstyle.

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teleskiguy  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:57:22pm

57 weeks ago.

Instagram

The tree skiing today was top shelf.

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makeitstop  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:57:24pm

re: #170 Stanley Sea

They are making it bigger than it was I’m sure. Are they getting a cut??? I thought they hid their association. Now it’s common knowledege. Kinda.

Back in those days, the old man was the famous one.

Such a long time ago, seems like.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 9:58:34pm

re: #176 makeitstop

Back in those days, the old man was the famous one.

Such a long time ago, seems like.

Poor dude.

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MsJ  Feb 26, 2016 • 10:12:00pm

re: #174 prairiefire

Too much talk about her hairstyle.

Well, that’s bullshit. There’s enough to complain about as far as her lawyerly skills go.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 26, 2016 • 10:17:38pm

Right now it’s the morally corrupt Faye Resnick on my TV.

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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 10:27:23pm
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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:07:11pm

One late poll for Friday, from Alabama.

Comes up all Trumps:

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:08:07pm

Chez Pazienza is being a gigantic dick:

Melissa Harris-Perry is an undeniably smart person whose show is often admirably wonky and culturally incisive. Like nearly every other second string player at a large network, though, fairly or unfairly she’s found herself occasionally neglected by management — at the very least not shown the kind of respect she maybe thinks she deserves. No one could blame her if she found this a little irritating. Everybody subjected to it does. Everybody not a marquee talent in TV news has tales of being disregarded, preempted, and generally undervalued, and that’s the excuse they use for why they’re angrily beating down their agents’ doors and slowly drinking themselves to death. The thing is, nobody makes a huge public stink about it because the news business is tough and it’s a given that you’re going to get ridden hard and to the point of utter frustration by sometimes clueless suits.

Well, usually nobody makes a huge public stink about it.

Shorter Chez, MHP is acting all uppity. But here’s the really clueless and disgusting bit.

Melissa Harris-Perry, as smart as she is, has said a lot of very strange things over the past several months. She told a dramatic story about how a man approached her in the lobby of a hotel, in front of dozens of people, and made her feel like he might kill her (even though he never touched her or was threatening enough to provoke security).

What.the.fuck?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:14:14pm

re: #182 goddamnedfrank

Chez Pazienza is being a gigantic dick:

Shorter Chez, MHP is acting all uppity. But here’s the really clueless and disgusting bit.

What.the.fuck?

At least he didn’t say she was being “hysterical.” Apparently that’s the yardstick by which progress is measured in 2016.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:27:21pm

What kind of asshole responds to you after six days?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:29:39pm
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retired cynic  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:31:54pm

re: #185 goddamnedfrank

Jerk. One of those tweets that makes the world worse.

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freetoken  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:34:21pm

Remember the news items from a couple of weeks ago, spurred by the release of a science paper, about sea level rising faster the past few years than any time in record?

Well, sure enough, the Birch Society’s The New American can not let that be true and runs with this headline:

Leading Authority on Sea Levels Disputes Study Asserting Sea Level Rise Is Fastest in 27 Centuries

The New American shows up in newsfeeds - as sure a sign as any that the “news” industry really is just show biz - so when I came across this headline I knew immediately who their “leading authority” was… because we’ve been down this road many times before.

But for the newbies, here’s the article’s opening:

[…]

However, the findings of the study were immediately challenged by Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, the former head of the paleogeophysics and geodynamics department at Stockholm University and a leading world authority on sea levels and coastal erosion.

“The PNAS paper is another sad contribution to the demagogic anti-science campaign for AGW. It is at odds with observational facts and ethical principles,” Morner wrote to the Climate Depot news service. “The paper is full of very bad violations of observational facts,” Morner continued. For instance, the Kopp paper says that the tide gauges at Christmas Island, Kiribati, show increases, yet as Morner notes, while showing the tide gauge record from that island for the past 40 years, “How can anyone find a rapidly rising trend in this tide gauge record? It is flat or rather slowly falling — but in no way rising.” He added that nowhere are there records of true “acceleration.”

[…]

To understand the scale of silliness presented here we have to know something about Nils Morner: he’s into dowsing.

That’s right, looking for water using a stick.

Now, a long time ago, back in 2007/2008, when LGF was undergoing a somewhat traumatic transition, many climate change denialists would post here.

A few of us would push back, but we were greatly outnumbered.

But when sea levels came up, and people would post in what was then the “links” section, the denialists would include posts that reference Morner.

I pointed out at that time that Morner is a flake, a dowser.

IIRC, Charles took notice of that and was a bit taken back by people pushing dowsers at LGF.

Anyway, long, long after Morner has been exposed as a real fringe nut, all over the internet, here comes the Birchers once more pushing the loon Morner.

Morner may have done some real research here or there at some time, many decades ago. He “went emeritus” (my term for these academics who go off on idiotic tangents) a long time ago (he’s almost 80 years old.)

The Birchers are unable, emotionally, to accept modern science. They hate evolution for the same reason they hate climate change - because of emotional rejection. Being “intelligent” or “educated” has nothing to do with this. Their rejection of reality is characterological, an element of their being. They want to live in a fantasy past. It is escapism.

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Ming5000  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:36:08pm

re: #118 stpaulbear

haha.. Good catch. Thanks for pointing the chin effect out.

Somebody had Fox news at the gym locker room on Friday evening. During discussion on the Christie endorsement there were several mentions Christie’s poor performance in the primary, so “shrug”.

Side note: I have no idea how Fox gets tuned in from time to time at my gym. Usually there is a sports channel on. My gym is diverse. There is a large percentage of Jewish, Black and some Middle Eastern members. And when I hear Fox I am reminded how off-kilter everyone is; how forgiving of the GOP insanity, how negative toward Dems, Obama, and HRC. Makes me feel that maybe I am the insane one. I feel someone should be embarrassed to tune in Fox in public, and yet some do. Like, somehow, they actually believe this stuff.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:36:25pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:42:32pm

Isn’t Chez is Bob Cesca’s friend. I would have thought he’d be smarter / better than this.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:43:16pm

Just wow.

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retired cynic  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:45:06pm

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

Just wow.

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What’s he doing judging her on that episode? He can’t know what happened.

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KingKenrod  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:45:58pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

Yoko Ono rushed to hospital for possible stroke

Apparently not a stroke, just flu-like symptoms and exhaustion.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:47:42pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:48:27pm

re: #192 retired cynic

What’s he doing judging her on that episode? He can’t know what happened.

This shit is fucking insane.

Charles, you know this guy right? He needs an intervention.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2016 • 11:50:09pm
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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:04:09am

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

Sounds like he thought better of it, or someone tapped him on the shoulder.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:05:26am

re: #193 KingKenrod

Apparently not a stroke, just flu-like symptoms and exhaustion.

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I’ve been telling people this flu going around is an absolute motherfucker! If I’m lucky tomorrow might be the first day I don’t wake up feeling like hammered shit.

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:09:46am

re: #198 goddamnedfrank

Did you get a flu shot this year?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:11:19am
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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:12:44am

re: #126 Big Beautiful Door

*wieder

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:15:03am

re: #199 Ming5000

Did you get a flu shot this year?

Yes. This year and regularly for the last six or seven years.

Just got lucky I guess.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:15:28am

I really haven’t kept up on all this MHP stuff - I’ll have to defer weighing in until I have a chance to find out what’s going on.

But I just discovered that asshole Nick Searcy has either been suspended from Twitter or deleted his account.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:16:46am

re: #203 Charles Johnson

I really haven’t kept up on all this MHP stuff - I’ll have to defer weighing in until I have a chance to find out what’s going on.

But I just discovered that asshole Nick Searcy has either been suspended from Twitter or deleted his account.

Looks like a voluntary suspension. Which I think means he’s got 30 days or so to reactivate it.

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:18:09am

re: #203 Charles Johnson

… But I just discovered that asshole Nick Searcy has either been suspended from Twitter or deleted his account.

I always hear you say that with initial caps: That Asshole Nick Searcy.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:22:13am
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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:23:35am

re: #204 goddamnedfrank

Looks like a voluntary suspension. Which I think means he’s got 30 days or so to reactivate it.

Did someone say that? I searched on his username but couldn’t anything useful.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:27:35am

re: #207 Charles Johnson

Did someone say that? I searched on his username but couldn’t anything useful.

The error message I get in Tweetdeck is “Sorry, we couldn’t retrieve user @yesnicksearcy - An unknown error occurred. Please try again shortly.”

I’ve seen that before when users have shuttered their own accounts temporarily. I think I got that when Katie McHugh disappeared for awhile following that time her horrible string of racism caught so much attention.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:30:31am

re: #207 Charles Johnson

We should know soon though, the message will turn to “that user doesn’t exist” if he closed the account himself, and “that user is suspended” if Twitter shut it down.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:33:43am

Looks to me like he shut it down himself.

Searcy had been getting shit from alt-right Trump supporters for months, and now that Trump is almost certain to win the GOP nomination it was probably a good time for Nick to bail.

Not that I feel bad for him. He should have know the kinds of people he was getting into bed with politically.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2016 • 12:37:58am

This indicates he tweeted some sort of farewell.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 27, 2016 • 1:00:39am

Why am I still awake?
Bueller?

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Franklin  Feb 27, 2016 • 1:06:13am

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

Just wow.

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This may be finally what pushes me over the edge and makes me stop listening to their show. His sideswipes on BLM and now this? Fuck that.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 1:24:10am
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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 2:14:44am
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Teukka  Feb 27, 2016 • 2:20:19am

re: #41 freetoken

That was not a real obit, you know.

snopes.com!

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 2:22:48am

re: #216 Teukka

Thanks, I have now downdinged William for posting a fake without posting a correction.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 2:39:59am
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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 2:48:28am
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Teukka  Feb 27, 2016 • 2:51:49am

re: #218 Nyet

re: #219 Nyet

What’s this about?

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 2:53:29am
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Jayleia  Feb 27, 2016 • 2:56:25am

re: #146 prairiefire

And when you are pulling a glove on with your fingers spread out, it ain’t gonna fit that well. Especially since even before getting wet, it fit…like a glove.

SOMEONE had to say it…
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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:23:24am

Kadyrov: “Actually Nemtsov didn’t bother me, he wasn’t on my level.”

ria.ru

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:30:26am

Began reading Konrad Morgen. The Conscience of a Nazi Judge. Morgen has long interested me, the guy went to Auschwitz and other camps and arrested a bunch of thugs; eventually he even tried to arrest Eichmann; though ultimately, as an SS judge, he was unable - even in principle - to stop the genocide. The moral complexity of his case is more fascinating than Eichmann’s “banality of evil”.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:39:45am

Instagram

Прямо сейчас. Огромное кол-во людей!!!! #памятиНемцова

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:40:14am
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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:48:37am

It is being reported that about 23000 are taking part in the Nemtsov memorial march in Moscow.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:51:32am
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SirMixALot  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:52:15am

re: #213 Franklin

re: #213 Franklin

This may be finally what pushes me over the edge and makes me stop listening to their show. His sideswipes on BLM and now this? Fuck that.

Gave up Chez, the Daily Banter and the Bob/Chez podcast a while ago. I still like Bob, follow him on Twitter and FB. Both Chez and the Brit who runs the Daily Banter are obsessed with the perceived ills of political correctness.

Chez is a pompous know-it-all whose incapable of ever admitting when he’s wrong. He’s from Miami, my hometown. He believes that makes him an expert on the people of South Florida and that gives him the right to talk down to us. No dude bro just because you grew up in Miami doesn’t make you an expert or gives you license to spew racism about Cubans and all the other nationalities/ethnic groups that live in the area.

I’ve had to deal with these type of smug white priilveged a holes my entire life. I refuse to give them an ounce of my time and support in my private life. It sucks because I really like Bob, but not enough to be insulted on his podcast by Chez or read the Daily Banter.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:54:53am

I’ve never understood the appeal of any “commenting” podcasts. Never listened to a Bob&Chez show either. Why do I need to know what some random people think? I have my own opinion, thank you.

Rachel etc. are different because at least they do some investigative stuff too. But pure commenting is like, not even masturbation.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:56:22am
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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:59:06am

re: #231 Nyet

The difference between this man and the tricorner teabag bros: he’s not a clown and he is actually taking a risk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 3:59:47am

re: #232 Nyet

The difference between this man and the tricorner teabag bros: he’s not a clown and he is actually taking a risk.

And he has probably read the thing and understands it.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:00:14am

Albeit the Russian constitution is no longer something that someone democratically inclined would be proud of, not after Crimea.

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William Lewis  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:09:23am

re: #224 Nyet

Interesting. I hadn’t heard of him before so I just read the short wiki on him. Complex is putting it mildly.. Be sure to mention what you think of the biography.

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Teukka  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:15:49am

re: #224 Nyet

re: #235 William Lewis

Interesting. I hadn’t heard of him before so I just read the short wiki on him. Complex is putting it mildly.. Be sure to mention what you think of the biography.

+1 on my side too. Interesting WP page.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:16:26am

re: #235 William Lewis

OK. But for starters, here’s an excerpt from Morgen’s Frankfurt Auschwitz trial testimony which opens the book:…

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:22:40am

re: #237 Nyet

OK, a bit too long, so here’s the sample chapter:

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:24:02am

Leave it to the Daily News to slam Trump and Christie - the gift that keeps on giving (or is it like an infectious disease that simply wont go away?)

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:25:46am

re: #239 lawhawk

I suppose sometimes I want to believe in the best in people, so even knowing everything I know about Christie (the bridge etc.) it was a shock to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:29:00am

re: #240 Nyet

I suppose sometimes I want to believe in the best in people, so even knowing everything I know about Christie (the bridge etc.) it was a shock to me.

To think that there was once a time when I would have at least considered Christie as a presidential candidate (I was impressed by the way he told off critics of his choice for a Muslim judge and for his co-operation with Obama on hurricane Sandy).

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:31:12am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

To think that there was once a time when I would have at least considered Christie as a presidential candidate (I was impressed by the way he told off critics of his choice for a Muslim judge and for his co-operation with Obama on hurricane Sandy).

That’s all in the rearview mirror of a reasonably priced car stuck in traffic at the GWB.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:31:52am

re: #242 lawhawk

Christie’s Bridge to Nowhere, as it were.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:32:43am

1. Never trust a politician.

2. Never fucking ever trust a Republican politician.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:39:01am

re: #187 freetoken

Remember the news items from a couple of weeks ago, spurred by the release of a science paper, about sea level rising faster the past few years than any time in record?

Well, sure enough, the Birch Society’s The New American can not let that be true and runs with this headline:

Leading Authority on Sea Levels Disputes Study Asserting Sea Level Rise Is Fastest in 27 Centuries

The New American shows up in newsfeeds - as sure a sign as any that the “news” industry really is just show biz - so when I came across this headline I knew immediately who their “leading authority” was… because we’ve been down this road many times before.

But for the newbies, here’s the article’s opening:

To understand the scale of silliness presented here we have to know something about Nils Morner: he’s into dowsing.

That’s right, looking for water using a stick.

Now, a long time ago, back in 2007/2008, when LGF was undergoing a somewhat traumatic transition, many climate change denialists would post here.

A few of us would push back, but we were greatly outnumbered.

But when sea levels came up, and people would post in what was then the “links” section, the denialists would include posts that reference Morner.

I pointed out at that time that Morner is a flake, a dowser.

IIRC, Charles took notice of that and was a bit taken back by people pushing dowsers at LGF.

Anyway, long, long after Morner has been exposed as a real fringe nut, all over the internet, here comes the Birchers once more pushing the loon Morner.

Morner may have done some real research here or there at some time, many decades ago. He “went emeritus” (my term for these academics who go off on idiotic tangents) a long time ago (he’s almost 80 years old.)

The Birchers are unable, emotionally, to accept modern science. They hate evolution for the same reason they hate climate change - because of emotional rejection. Being “intelligent” or “educated” has nothing to do with this. Their rejection of reality is characterological, an element of their being. They want to live in a fantasy past. It is escapism.

You should page this.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:40:24am

Taking a look at Christie’s TL (the last tweet is the best).

He retweeted this:

He posted this:

Sad sack of feces.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:44:41am

re: #201 Nyet

*wieder

You noticed! (subtle dig on Trump’s misspelled tweets)

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:46:54am

re: #247 Big Beautiful Door

weiner/wiener ;)

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:47:31am

re: #206 goddamnedfrank

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Feature, not a bug. If he had given up in frustration, that would’ve been exactly what the bill sponsors wanted.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:52:45am

Note that Goldberg’s complaint isn’t that Trump is a racist, misogynist, or xenophobe. It’s that he is overcompensating and insecure. As if that’s stopped candidates like Jeb or Cruz or Rubio who have all the same problems.

He can’t complain about the racism, misogyny or xenophobia because all the candidates have those same kinds of positions, and more to the point, they’re all courting the same bunch of supporters - who espouse and/or are attracted to these extremist positions.

Decades of pandering about anger, fear, and hate of the Democrats and outsiders has left the GOP as the party of hate. It’s little wonder so few minorities view them as a viable party.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:53:16am

I like BernieBro Shaun King’s logic:

Shaun King: “Stop saying that Bernie Sanders was for the Crime Bill”

The last sentence:

When he eventually supported a version of it, he openly stated that he only did so because of the new laws protecting women in the bill, but be clear, he always opposed it, and did so with great passion.

LOL.

See, he uttered a few lofty words opposing the bill. No matter that the end result (and it’s the end result that matters) was just the same.

That’s why I like Bernie more than BernieBros: at heart he’s much more pragmatic than they think.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 4:59:08am

He just packs it in the “idealistic” shell and it works on rubes.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:00:39am

Bernie Sanders: ‘Hillary Clinton Supports Fracking. I Do Not.’

For me, one more reason to oppose Bernie.
And I’m fully aware that the issue is probably controversial even here.
Yeah, I support fracking. (Under very strict controls.)

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:03:44am
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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:05:46am
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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:06:23am

I really hope that one day Putin, Kadyrov et al. will stand before a tribunal to answer for their crimes.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:07:42am

re: #253 Nyet

Fracking under the right conditions is fine - but we know it can cause earthquakes, and there’s potential for contamination of groundwater with chemical cocktails that the companies refuse to reveal. So it needs to be tightly controlled.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:08:41am

re: #257 lawhawk

Fracking under the right conditions is fine - but we know it can cause earthquakes, and there’s potential for contamination of groundwater with chemical cocktails that the companies refuse to reveal. So it needs to be tightly controlled.

True, tight control is the answer, not prohibition.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:08:55am

For those here who were wondering last night about the Dems’ oppo research on Trump (or lack of it)…

Meanwhile, Democratic researchers have reportedly been compiling research on Trump for eight months—better than the GOP but nothing like the 2-3 years they were looking into Mitt Romney leading up to 2012. While there’s plenty more records to mine, one researcher said most of what they’ve uncovered has yet to see the light of day—meaning a Trump general election could prove to be a bloodbath.

That researcher estimated that of all the material they’ve compiled — court and property records, newspaper clips and videos — approximately 80 percent of it has yet to surface in this election cycle.

From Great Orange Satan

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:12:45am

re: #259 makeitstop

Part of the reason there’s been little oppo research against Trump is that he emerged as a candidate late in the process (which only means that future candidates might wait until the last moment to minimize the research others do into their dealings).

Yet, there’s so much fertile ground to review that it’s going to be a mudbog and tractor pull into November.

Of course, Trump’s already laid the groundwork to disregard all the reports - the media is out to get him and can’t be trusted on anything. His supporters wont care that he’s got skeletons in his closet. They wont care that he lies or flip flops. They wont/don’t care he is actively catering to racists and white supremacists.

They’ve been primed to ignore the media, and now are getting the candidate of their dreams. And our nightmares.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:14:46am

Pop Mech takes on myths about fracking from both sides:

popularmechanics.com

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:15:12am

re: #253 Nyet

But but but fracking is such a scary word!

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:19:41am

VW has until March 24 to submit its fix for 600,000 polluting diesels.

U.S. District Court Judge Charles R. Breyer told Volkswagen’s lawyers at a hearing in California Thursday that the company needs to report back to him by March 24 on plans to address the “defeat device software,” as well as the status of negotiations for a settlement with owners.

The longer VW takes, the fewer cars they have to fix.
More info

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:21:29am

re: #260 lawhawk

Part of the reason there’s been little oppo research against Trump is that he emerged as a candidate late in the process (which only means that future candidates might wait until the last moment to minimize the research others do into their dealings).

Yet, there’s so much fertile ground to review that it’s going to be a mudbog and tractor pull into November.

Of course, Trump’s already laid the groundwork to disregard all the reports - the media is out to get him and can’t be trusted on anything. His supporters wont care that he’s got skeletons in his closet. They wont care that he lies or flip flops. They wont/don’t care he is actively catering to racists and white supremacists.

They’ve been primed to ignore the media, and now are getting the candidate of their dreams. And our nightmares.

Its keeping non-Trump supporters from holding their noses and pulling the lever for Trump because they think Hillary is worse that we need the oppo research for. And to help get out the vote to stop Trump.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:25:11am

re: #200 goddamnedfrank

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Is the Daily Banter liberal?

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:25:33am

re: #260 lawhawk

Part of the reason there’s been little oppo research against Trump is that he emerged as a candidate late in the process (which only means that future candidates might wait until the last moment to minimize the research others do into their dealings).

Yet, there’s so much fertile ground to review that it’s going to be a mudbog and tractor pull into November.

Of course, Trump’s already laid the groundwork to disregard all the reports - the media is out to get him and can’t be trusted on anything. His supporters wont care that he’s got skeletons in his closet. They wont care that he lies or flip flops. They wont/don’t care he is actively catering to racists and white supremacists.

They’ve been primed to ignore the media, and now are getting the candidate of their dreams. And our nightmares.

All true. His supporters have already made up their minds, and nothing short of a dead girl/live boy scenario will change it. Even then, I have my doubts.

The best we can hope for is that casual voters will take an honest look. As polarizing as Trump is, there must be a sizable number of people who can still be swayed.

Oh, and massive ad buys would also help. Hammer that fucker hard, every day, in every venue from the stump to Congress. Take what Rubio and Cruz tried to do at the last debate and write it large.

I’d consider putting Carville in charge of the oppo effort. He’s good at that.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:25:43am

re: #263 Kent Dorfman

Speaking of fixes, I finally got a notice that my Toyota’s Takata airbag is finally ready for replacement. That’s a recall going back years at this point (and Takata keeps adding to the tally of recalls across makes and models).

Of course, the recall notice also indicates that I shouldn’t drive the car with any passengers in it (which pretty much renders it unusable since that’s when I do most driving - with the Mrs. in the car). Thankfully, I have another car to drive, but this is a risk millions of drivers have been dealing with for years. That’s an actual risk - of injury and death. Yet regulators haven’t been able to get the manufacturers to move faster to address.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:33:11am

re: #265 Belafon

Is the Daily Banter liberal?

Yes. But, borderline dudebro at times though depending on the writer.

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dharmamark  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:36:31am

re: #267 lawhawk

Got mine too. Mine’s a 03 Corolla, so I’ve spent 285K miles with a bomb in my car? Nice.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:36:41am

re: #268 Dr. Matt

Yes. But, borderline dudebro at times though depending on the writer.

Thanks. Then I see this guy, when a president Trump issues an executive order banning minorities from federal jobs, and studios start letting blacks go, saying that they deserve it for demanding things they themselves have never asked for. You know, white privilege.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:41:14am

Just for the giggles, one weird trick that might help you poop better!

vox.com

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:42:03am
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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:43:42am

re: #271 Big Beautiful Door

Paraphrasing Apostle Paul and Stalin, He who does not eat shall not poop.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:43:52am

Chez used to work for MSNBC. Staying in management’s good graces is a likely motive for that ridiculous hit piece.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:44:48am

re: #270 Belafon

Chez could have written the same story without the divisive headline and condescending tone. Certainly it is not uncommon for scheduled programs to get sidelined for live, breaking political coverage. He could have made the made point and reached out to MHP for her viewpoint. Chez isn’t being helpful.

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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:46:00am

re: #255 Nyet

Nyet, if you speak Russian is they any chance you could include some translation with these?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:47:58am

re: #276 Ming5000

Nyet, if you speak Russian is they any chance you could include some translation with these?

Second the motion. I know the alphabet, but sounding out the words doesn’t help me if I don’t know what they mean, you know?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:48:13am

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

Searcy had been getting shit from alt-right Trump supporters for months, and now that Trump is almost certain to win the GOP nomination it was probably a good time for Nick to bail.

Not that I feel bad for him. He should have know the kinds of people he was getting into bed with politically.

I’ll sum up Searcy’s departure succinctly: Adios, fucktard

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:49:59am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

I’ll sum up Searcy’s departure succinctly: Adios, fucktard

Maybe he’ll go join that other service, quitter.se or shitter, or whatever.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:51:21am

Whoa. Talk about NOT holding back…

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:53:26am

re: #279 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Maybe he’ll go join that other service, quitter.se or shitter, or whatever.

haha. Please proceed. Meanwhile the 300+ million users on twitter won’t remember he (and the rest of the quitters) even existed.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:53:41am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Whoa. Talk about NOT holding back…

The Daily News has really been sticking it to Trump. They’re also not big fans of Christie. I wish other news media were as blunt in their criticism.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:56:41am

re: #276 Ming5000

re: #277 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Marches in memory of Boris Nemtsov in Moscow and St.-Petersburg.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:59:01am

Just found this:

sanders.senate.gov

Fuck you, Bernie.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:59:15am

Flipping through the CSPAN channels and find Erick son of Erick on Washington Journal.

Thanks, no thanks.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 5:59:21am

re: #283 Nyet

Marches in memory of Boris Nemtsov in Moscow and St.-Petersburg.

Ah, OK. I got the march part but missed the Nemtsov part.

I should ask my Ukrainian neighbors for Russian lessons. I never got past sentences like, “This is a blue book.”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:03:21am

re: #259 makeitstop

For those here who were wondering last night about the Dems’ oppo research on Trump (or lack of it)…

From Great Orange Satan

Not sure there’s anything the Dems or anyone else could dig up that would be worse than what the Donald’s already doing out in the open right now.

half /

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:05:54am
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b.d.  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:06:39am

re: #287 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Not sure there’s anything the Dems or anyone else could dig up that would be worse than what the Donald’s already doing out in the open right now.

half /

He may have said something bad about Ronald Reagan once?

//

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:07:08am

re: #287 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Not sure there’s anything the Dems or anyone else could dig up that would be worse than what the Donald’s already doing out in the open right now.

half /

They’re saying there’s quite a bit.

And it doesn’t really even need to be earth-shaking stuff, either. If there’s that much material, they could make a long series of negative ads.

Let the drip, drip, drip commence.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:07:56am

re: #288 Nyet

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I look forward to the day Russia is a free country again. I hope it comes soon.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:08:04am

re: #250 lawhawk

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Note that Goldberg’s complaint isn’t that Trump is a racist, misogynist, or xenophobe. It’s that he is overcompensating and insecure. As if that’s stopped candidates like Jeb or Cruz or Rubio who have all the same problems.

He can’t complain about the racism, misogyny or xenophobia because all the candidates have those same kinds of positions, and more to the point, they’re all courting the same bunch of supporters - who espouse and/or are attracted to these extremist positions.

Decades of pandering about anger, fear, and hate of the Democrats and outsiders has left the GOP as the party of hate. It’s little wonder so few minorities view them as a viable party.

Jonah and the other Troubled Hearts must not listen to hate radio, or read their own comment sections, if they find Trump’s blustering a problem.

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b.d.  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:08:23am

re: #288 Nyet

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(looking for Snowden in that picture…)

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:08:37am

re: #291 Big Beautiful Door

I look forward to the day Russia is a free country again. I hope it comes soon.

Not much hope.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:08:40am
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:11:08am

SNL should do a skit in which Trump is selecting a VP nominee via a season of The Apprentice. Giving Cruz, Rubio, Christie and the like humiliating tasks to perform, telling Jeb? “You’re fired!” for being low energy, and eventually selecting Dennis Rodman or Gary Busey for Veep.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:13:24am

re: #294 Nyet

Not much hope.

They tossed out the communists. I have to believe that someday the people will wake up to the disaster that Putin is and toss him out as well.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:13:26am

Killer Mike:

Fifty one years ago when Hillary Clinton was working on the Goldwater campaign, he was getting locked up for my rights.

Yawn.

Just as well, some white people who took part in the sit-ins back then (and who were tutored by MLK himself) have become white supremacists today. So? Judge the today, not what happened half a century ago.

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:13:28am

re: #275 Dr. Matt

Chez could have written the same story without the divisive headline and condescending tone. Certainly it is not uncommon for scheduled programs to get sidelined for live, breaking political coverage. He could have made the made point and reached out to MHP for her viewpoint. Chez isn’t being helpful.

If the “breaking political coverage” is yet another Trump rally giving the same speech he’s given a dozen times this week, and the pre-empted scheduled program is also political, covers issues that aren’t the umpteenth rehash, and involves a panel that was booked and spent a day traveling to town and got up at o’dark thirty to be in the studio… and this happens several times, to give continuous coverage to a guy who also gets 1/2 hour every morning on Morning Joe and live broadcasts of his rallies every afternoon…

That pretty well is removing MHP and her guests from the entire discussion. It invalidates the entire supposed rationale for hiring her and giving her a show in the first place.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:13:45am

re: #294 Nyet

Not much hope.

Putin will be eventually replaced by another strongman. He’s not immortal.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:14:16am

re: #297 Big Beautiful Door

They tossed out the communists. I have to believe that someday the people will wake up to the disaster that Putin is and toss him out as well.

The brainwashing today is worse than under commies, because people are glad to be brainwashed.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:14:29am

re: #298 Nyet

Yawn.

Just as well, some white people who took part in the sit-ins back then (and who were tutored by MLK himself) have become white supremacists today. So? Judge the today, not what happened half a century ago.

Yeah, Mitch McConnell participated in civil rights marches too.

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:14:39am

re: #300 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Putin will be eventually replaced by another strongman. He’s not immortal.

And he will be even worse.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:16:41am

re: #299 sagehen

If the “breaking political coverage” is yet another Trump rally giving the same speech he’s given a dozen times this week, and the pre-empted scheduled program is also political, covers issues that aren’t the umpteenth rehash, and involves a panel that was booked and spent a day traveling to town and got up at o’dark thirty to be in the studio… and this happens several times, to give continuous coverage to a guy who also gets 1/2 hour every morning on Morning Joe and live broadcasts of his rallies every afternoon…

That pretty well is removing MHP and her guests from the entire discussion. It invalidates the entire supposed rationale for hiring her and giving her a show in the first place.

It’s not just happening to her. It also occurs during the weekday primetime shows: MTP, Maddow, Hardball…I’ve seen all three get nixed for live political coverage whether it be yet another Trump rally or……yet another Trump rally.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:17:52am

re: #304 Dr. Matt

It’s not just happening to her. It also occurs during the weekday primetime shows: MTP, Maddow, Hardball…I’ve seen all three get nixed for live politically coverage whether it be yet another Trump rally or……yet another Trump rally.

It’s the cheapest form of reality TV.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:18:04am

re: #292 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It’s Obama’s fault™.

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b.d.  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:18:10am

re: #300 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Putin will be eventually replaced by another strongman. He’s not immortal.

Is their an heir apparent or has he quieted all of the other strong political voices in his country? Surely Medvedev is viewed as a yes man, lap dog who is not a real leader?

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Nyet  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:19:49am

re: #307 b.d.

Is their an heir apparent or has he quieted all of the other strong political voices in his country? Surely Medvedev is viewed as a yes man, lap dog who is not a real leader?

Shoigu. Ivanov.

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b.d.  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:20:24am

re: #308 Nyet

Shoigu. Ivanov.

Thank you. I now have my research projects for the day.

:)

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:21:52am

re: #295 Dr. Matt

How is it that Trump failed on stuff that all Americans love? Booze (Trump liquors - he had bought a winery down in Charlottesville and it actually makes good wine), gambling (4 for 4 in casinos going bankrupt), and steaks?

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Lancelot Link  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:24:59am

re: #310 lawhawk

Football, too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:27:13am

re: #310 lawhawk

How is it that Trump failed on stuff that all Americans love? Booze (Trump liquors - he had bought a winery down in Charlottesville and it actually makes good wine), gambling (4 for 4 in casinos going bankrupt), and steaks?

He’s a risk taker!/

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:29:20am

re: #310 lawhawk

How is it that Trump failed on stuff that all Americans love? Booze (Trump liquors - he had bought a winery down in Charlottesville and it actually makes good wine), gambling (4 for 4 in casinos going bankrupt), and steaks?

He has deep knowledge of one particular profession: real estate. Like many other experts in one field, he figures he’s the smartest guy in the room about a number of other fields. Plus, I imagine he ignores his financial advisers, even if they had the temerity to question his business decisions.

I can imagine how his Cabinet meetings would go.

Secretary X: blah blah blah — it’s a bad idea.
Trump: Bullshit! You’re fired! Get outta here! Secretary Y, your turn.
Secretary Y: Um, well, I, er …

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Danack  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:35:11am

re: #313 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I can imagine how his Cabinet meetings would go.

Secretary X: blah blah blah — it’s a bad idea.
Trump: Bullshit! You’re fired! Get outta here! Secretary Y, your turn.
Secretary Y: Um, well, I, er …

And before that, the rest of the election with the rest of the GOP trying to get Mr Trump to propose an actual election platform is going to be ‘interesting’.

He’s pretty clearly jut making ‘policies’ up as he goes. Trying to get him to sit down and even just co-ordinate with the rest of the GOP is going to be a nightmare for both sides.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:40:10am

re: #295 Dr. Matt

Add trump university to that too.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:42:26am

re: #314 Danack

And before that, the rest of the election with the rest of the GOP trying to get Mr Trump to propose an actual election platform is going to be ‘interesting’.

He’s pretty clearly jut making ‘policies’ up as he goes. Trying to get him to sit down and even just co-ordinate with the rest of the GOP is going to be a nightmare for both sides.

Yeah, that, too. Trump will try to bluster his way through the general election campaign, but the party leadership (such as it is) would want their candidate to, like, communicate the party’s platform using more than two-syllable words and disjointed sentences.

Then again, Sarah Palin.

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Danack  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:44:46am

Actually I’ve been meaning to ask for a while; Is there any precedent for there to be no candidate for President from one of the two major parties?

Are the Republicans required to run someone?

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b.d.  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:48:13am

re: #317 Danack

Actually I’ve been meaning to ask for a while; Is there any precedent for there to be no candidate for President from one of the two major parties?

Are the Republicans required to run someone?

The GOP’s best chance right now is to nominate Bernie Sanders and run Mittens as an independent.

//

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:50:26am

Found on teh Facebook.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:51:14am

re: #314 Danack

And before that, the rest of the election with the rest of the GOP trying to get Mr Trump to propose an actual election platform is going to be ‘interesting’.

He’s pretty clearly jut making ‘policies’ up as he goes. Trying to get him to sit down and even just co-ordinate with the rest of the GOP is going to be a nightmare for both sides.

A GOP Convention organized by Trump should be interesting, to say the least. Cocktail waitresses, roulette tables, and everything painted a very classy, blindingly shiny shade of gold./

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b.d.  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:52:12am

re: #317 Danack

Actually I’ve been meaning to ask for a while; Is there any precedent for there to be no candidate for President from one of the two major parties?

Are the Republicans required to run someone?

The way these guys are acting I wouldn’t surprise me in the least. I have never seen such an impotent bunch of people in all of my days, no wonder Boehner threw his hands up and went to the bar.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 6:57:09am

re: #321 b.d.

The way these guys are acting I wouldn’t surprise me in the least. I have never seen such an impotent bunch of people in all of my days, no wonder Boehner threw his hands up and went to the bar.

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LePage must have decided that if you can’t beat him, join him. Look at this from the article:

At a meeting of Republican governors the next morning, Paul R. LePage of Maine called for action. Seated at a long boardroom table at the Willard Hotel, he erupted in frustration over the state of the 2016 race, saying Mr. Trump’s nomination would deeply wound the Republican Party. Mr. LePage urged the governors to draft an open letter “to the people,” disavowing Mr. Trump and his divisive brand of politics.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:00:07am

Speaking of teh Facebook, they’ve taken datamining to a whole new level with their new “like” emojis.

Before, there was only “like.” Now there are different kinds of reactions available to your friend’s posts on FB, like “angry” or “wow!” emojis.

But just remember this: For every little inch of emotional nuance we gain from these buttons, Facebook gains a mile in the ways it can manipulate and keep tabs on us.

Social engineering: Facebook confirmed to Mic that it will use data gathered when you use the new emojis to alter your News Feed and learn more about what you like.

Facebook is constantly trying to figure out what will keep you glued to your News Feed longer. Every like, every share and every click or tap is more data to feed the Facebook algorithms. It’s like watering a tree that sinks its roots deeper and deeper. And with each interaction, Facebook knows you better. Do you prefer Bernie Sanders to Donald Trump, or fashion to green living?

Facebook knows this about you, and it will use the information to tailor your News Feed to things Facebook thinks you want to see.

mic.com

Doesn’t that just make you want to go back to writing letters and posting them in the mail?

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b.d.  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:01:53am

re: #322 Big Beautiful Doorr

LePage must have decided that if you can’t beat him, join him. Look at this from the article:

Ha!

There sure have been a bunch of principled endorsements for Trump this week.

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What a bunch of cowardly opportunists who stand for nothing.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:06:52am

re: #324 b.d.

r

Ha!

There sure have been a bunch of principled endorsements for Trump this week.

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What a bunch of cowardly opportunists who stand for nothing.

Pretty much the definition of the typical politician.

Tuesday’s gonna be very interesting.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:08:43am

re: #325 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Pretty much the definition of the typical politician.

Tuesday’s gonna be very interesting.

Unless there is a surge for Sanders, Rubio or Cruz that the polls haven’t picked up on, I think we will wake up Wednesday morning to the realization that Trump and Clinton will almost certainly be their parties’ nominees.

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b.d.  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:09:27am

re: #322 Big Beautiful Door

LePage must have decided that if you can’t beat him, join him. Look at this from the article:

That really is a great article that pulls back the curtain a lot. Interesting that sources are so desperate that they’re willing to vent this to the NYT:

Mr. Romney had been eager to tilt the race, and even called Mr. Christie after he ended his campaign to vent about Mr. Trump and say he must be stopped.

nytimes.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:14:04am

re: #327 b.d.

That really is a great article that pulls back the curtain a lot. Interesting that sources are so desperate that they’re willing to vent this to the NYT:

nytimes.com

I just read that one, too. Trump has got the Republicans running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Some, like Christie and LePage, are hoping to hitch their wagons to the Trump wagon train, hoping for some payoff. Others like Graham and Romney want to stop Trump dead in his tracks, before he walks away with the nomination.

It’s history in the making. I’ve never witnessed an election cycle with the Republicans in such disarray. Usually, it’s been the Democrats who act scattered and at loose ends.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:18:37am

re: #297 Big Beautiful Door

They tossed out the communists. I have to believe that someday the people will wake up to the disaster that Putin is and toss him out as well.

They tossed out the official ideology, but many of the old party members remained.

Putin is ex-KGB. their symbol was a shield, or “schit” in Russian. Motto for the new FBS security forces: “Same ‘schit’, different name!”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:20:21am

re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They tossed out the official ideology, but many of the old party members remained.

The KGB symbol was a shield, or “schit” in Russian. Motto for the new FBS security forces: “Same ‘schit’, different name!”

New boss, same as the old boss.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:36:33am

Morning Lizardim.

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:45:48am

re: #21 Targetpractice

It goes without saying that if Obama had ever tried this shit, his campaign, let alone his career in politics, would have ended that very afternoon. Every news program for the following week would have played the clip to captions of “Angry Black Man.”

And if Cruz or Rubio tried it they’d be openly compared to Tony Montana or Fidel Castro. Donald Trump just gets away with it, a New York Original.

/grrr

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 27, 2016 • 7:52:48am

re: #327 b.d.

That really is a great article that pulls back the curtain a lot. Interesting that sources are so desperate that they’re willing to vent this to the NYT:

nytimes.com

Wow, just wow. I’ve emailed my dad a link to that article. I know he will get a great chuckle out of it.

The GOP has only themselves to blame on this. They are reaping the price of their silence and now it’s coming back to bite them. All I can say is “Lie down with extremist dogs, get trump fleas”

Of course once this gets out, the RWNJs that support Trump are just going to go to 11+ in their commitment.

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:06:23am

re: #321 b.d.

The way these guys are acting I wouldn’t surprise me in the least. I have never seen such an impotent bunch of people in all of my days, no wonder Boehner threw his hands up and went to the bar.

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As I’ve said, I feel the establishment itself is divided on Rubio. You have some of those who like him or think he’s the best fit in a bad situation and some of those like Christie who genuinely can’t stand the jerk.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:06:57am

re: #333 Reality Based Steve

Wow, just wow. I’ve emailed my dad a link to that article. I know he will get a great chuckle out of it.

The GOP has only themselves to blame on this. They are reaping the price of their silence and now it’s coming back to bite them. All I can say is “Lie down with extremist dogs, get trump fleas”

Of course once this gets out, the RWNJs that support Trump are just going to go to 11+ in their commitment.

RBS

It is their fault. No question about it.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:10:41am

re: #328 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I just read that one, too. Trump has got the Republicans running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Some, like Christie and LePage, are hoping to hitch their wagons to the Trump wagon train, hoping for some payoff. Others like Graham and Romney want to stop Trump dead in his tracks, before he walks away with the nomination.

It’s history in the making. I’ve never witnessed an election cycle with the Republicans in such disarray. Usually, it’s been the Democrats who act scattered and at loose ends.

Trump looks like the Martin Luther of the Republican Party.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:12:16am

re: #330 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

New boss, same as the old boss.

Upding for The Who reference.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:13:59am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:21:06am

re: #338 FormerDirtDart

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I didn’t know there was a challenge. Oh and Judge Brandeis, assumed office June 1916.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:21:26am

Kevin Drum:

Let Us Take a Minute to Fully Appreciate the Current State of American Politics

Trump now has the following endorsements:

Sarah Palin, crackpot former Republican VP candidate.
Teresa Giudice, star of Real Housewives of New Jersey.
Geert Wilders, Dutch Islamaphobe and leader of the Party for Freedom.
Joe Arpaio, famous Arizona sheriff fond of chain gangs, dressing inmates in pink underwear, feeding them moldy food, and too many other lunatic acts to count.
Paul LePage, wingnut governor of Maine governor who memorably said that Maine’s biggest problem was “guys with the name D-Money, Smoothie, Shifty….they come up here, they sell their heroin.”
David Duke, noted white supremacist and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.
Alex Jones, insane talk radio conspiracy monger.
Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelical leader of Liberty University, whose endorsement came despite Trump’s well-known string of affairs, remarriages, skinflint charitable giving, and apparent lack of any serious Christian faith.
Ann Coulter, political commentator noted for her Islamaphobia, hatred of illegal immigrants, and general descent into highly-calculated derangement.
Dennis Rodman, famous basketball player and friend to Kim Jung-un
Juanita Brodderick and Paula Jones, who both made sketchy but famous accusations of sexual harrassment against Bill Clinton.
Willie Robertson, homophobic star of Duck Dynasty.
Carl Paladino, racist emailer and secret-daughter-hiding former Republican candidate for New York governor.
Chris Christie, ambitious, tough-guy governor of New Jersey embroiled in a controversy over punishing a political opponent by deliberately shutting down two lanes on the George Washington bridge and tying up traffic for miles.

And he’s all yours, GOP.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:21:45am

Trump supporters going full Trump (and racist/xenophobic in process):

To which I responded, Civil wars and insurrections. Yeah, that ~never~ happens in the West. Or Europe.

These people don’t get it. And they revel in it.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:23:51am

You have to give it to bully Trump for how he handled the GOP from the get-go. When he first came out the GOP thought it would be self destruction that would take Trump out. However Trump got attention and he started to show up in the polls but not strong numbers right off and the GOP held off still thinking he will fizzle out once people get sick of the act. People didn’t get sick of the act, they started to come out to the early rallies he held and his numbers started to go.

Right about this time the GOP should have seen that they needed to nuke Trump because he was catching on. But they didn’t. Some of the GOP powers must have thought that they could ride Trump a bit and use some of the attention to attract new voters and when Trump went down, they’d have more new voters to use against the Dems. Sound familiar? It was how they tried to use and control the Tea Party folks. Use and ignore.

Then Trump pulled what I think will be seen as his master stroke. He somehow managed to bully the party by saying that if he wasn’t treated properly with all the respect he deserved he would go independent and leave the GOP race. And they stupidly came out and assured him they would do just that. They fed the bully and he had them bent over to where he could call the shots and do anything he wanted.

They probably should have called his bluff right then and then opened up with full canons blazing and blow him up with the help of all their media like Fox and Rush. Trump may have gone independent, but with everyone tearing him down he might have started to not get all the TV and other media coverage that really fueled him on. No attention by the media and no party support and he may have gone away because he thrives on the attention and bullying. It also would cost him his own money to stay independent and buy the attention he would need.

Outside the party he wouldn’t have had the GOP debates that he turned into must see TV and used to further strengthen him in the party. Between the media covering more and more and the GOP’s own candidates slipping in the polls, Trump used the GOP to get bigger and bigger and made his threat to leave the GOP stronger and stronger.

Right then the GOP was sunk. The minute they allowed him to control them with his “independent run” bluff and calling for fairness all the damn time to remind them of the bluff it was over.

The GOP has no one else to blame.

And if the GOP can’t control someone like Trump in a political run they actually have control over, why would anyone think the GOP could control any damn thing in America and all over the world?

I hope the Democrats make a point of this. If Trump is your candidate and you publicly say you don’t want him as your candidate the real message is your party is out of control and is fucked beyond all belief.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:24:06am

re: #341 lawhawk

Trump supporters going full Trump (and racist/xenophobic in process):

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To which I responded, Civil wars and insurrections. Yeah, that ~never~ happens in the West. Or Europe.

These people don’t get it. And they revel in it.

Of course.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:25:55am

re: #340 Eric The Fruit Bat

Kevin Drum:

Trump now has the following endorsements:

Sarah Palin, crackpot former Republican VP candidate.
Teresa Giudice, star of Real Housewives of New Jersey.
Geert Wilders, Dutch Islamaphobe and leader of the Party for Freedom.
Joe Arpaio, famous Arizona sheriff fond of chain gangs, dressing inmates in pink underwear, feeding them moldy food, and too many other lunatic acts to count.
Paul LePage, wingnut governor of Maine governor who memorably said that Maine’s biggest problem was “guys with the name D-Money, Smoothie, Shifty….they come up here, they sell their heroin.”
David Duke, noted white supremacist and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.
Alex Jones, insane talk radio conspiracy monger.
Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelical leader of Liberty University, whose endorsement came despite Trump’s well-known string of affairs, remarriages, skinflint charitable giving, and apparent lack of any serious Christian faith.
Ann Coulter, political commentator noted for her Islamaphobia, hatred of illegal immigrants, and general descent into highly-calculated derangement.
Dennis Rodman, famous basketball player and friend to Kim Jung-un
Juanita Brodderick and Paula Jones, who both made sketchy but famous accusations of sexual harrassment against Bill Clinton.
Willie Robertson, homophobic star of Duck Dynasty.
Carl Paladino, racist emailer and secret-daughter-hiding former Republican candidate for New York governor.
Chris Christie, ambitious, tough-guy governor of New Jersey embroiled in a controversy over punishing a political opponent by deliberately shutting down two lanes on the George Washington bridge and tying up traffic for miles.

It’s a who’s who in assholes really. And don’t forget Gary Busey too. Oh and Robert Jeffries who thinks the RCC is run by Satan.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:27:03am

Most supporters of that Trump person have never bothered to learn history therefore they are doomed to repeat it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:27:22am

re: #342 ObserverArt

We may see a Red Wedding in Cleveland after all.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:31:41am

Just think, the party of Lincoln has become the party of David Duke.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:32:54am

re: #346 Eric The Fruit Bat

We may see a Red Wedding in Cleveland after all.

Heh. I had to look up that reference. Seems to be a Game of Thrones thang. I’ll check that further.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:33:32am

re: #348 ObserverArt

Heh. I had to look up that reference. Seems to be a Game of Thrones thang. I’ll check that further.

If you want to get in to the series, don’t!

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:33:44am

If Trump says he’s been audited as much as he claims, there’s a very easy way for him to prove it. Provide the cover sheets of his personal income tax return audit requests. Sample letters look something along the lines of this.

No need to reveal any personal information. But the fact is that people who have lots of deductions and expenses and/or take advantage of multiple tax breaks are more likely to be audited.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:34:57am

re: #346 Eric The Fruit Bat

We may see a Red Wedding in Cleveland after all.

Unlike Chicago in 68, this time the teargas canisters may be going off inside the convention center.

I’m sure that there is all ready talk of a “Million Patriot March” to surround the convention center to make sure the GOP nominates Trump. Presuming that Trump continues to win primaries like he is, I expect to see rule changes coming (like in Colorado) for fewer bound delegates, lots of floor maneuvers and parliamentary procedures to try and prevent a first round Trump nomination. If it goes to a second round, bring in Michael Buffer and “Lets get ready to Rumble!”

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:35:16am

I think the most disturbing thing was Trump calling for the revising of libel laws because of “insults” towards him and the idiotic crowds eating that shit up. I’m really worried about our country if this guy is a viable major party candidate for President.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:37:36am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

I think the most disturbing thing was Trump calling for the revising of libel laws because of “insults” towards him and the idiotic crowds eating that shit up. I’m really worried about our country if this guy is a viable major party candidate for President.

people who do not understand free speech are only upset when it is used against their interests

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:41:29am

re: #351 Reality Based Steve

Unlike Chicago in 68, this time the teargas canisters may be going off inside the convention center.

I’m sure that there is all ready talk of a “Million Patriot March” to surround the convention center to make sure the GOP nominates Trump. Presuming that Trump continues to win primaries like he is, I expect to see rule changes coming (like in Colorado) for fewer bound delegates, lots of floor maneuvers and parliamentary procedures to try and prevent a first round Trump nomination. If it goes to a second round, bring in Michael Buffer and “Lets get ready to Rumble!”

RBS

Teargas won’t work, since many militia-types have gas masks.

/I’m kidding around, but what I said about the militia-types is true.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:42:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:42:24am

re: #354 Dark_Falcon

Teargas won’t work, since many militia-types have gas masks.

/I’m kidding around, but what I said about the militia-types is true.

nerve gas…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:45:53am

re: #356 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

nerve gas…

Dr. Carson’s truth serum…

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Teukka  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:47:50am

re: #356 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

re: #354 Dark_Falcon

Teargas won’t work, since many militia-types have gas masks.

/I’m kidding around, but what I said about the militia-types is true.

nerve gas…

No need for nerve gas, really. Use something which is harmless but spends the filter cartridges (basically particle filters and activated charcoal), then hit them with tear gas or pepper spray.

*ducks*

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:49:50am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

Just think, the party of Lincoln has become the party of David Duke.

I contend that right now they don’t have a party. Sure, they have all kinds of people in the media and in all levels of offices of this country with an ‘R’ by their name. But we can see they are having a damn hard time figuring out how to handle any thing.

They don’t know what to do with Trump.

They have the Supreme Court nomination mess.

They have weak national candidates.

They have a fractured base.

They have their money people turning off the money.

And it is obvious there is indecision on what to do and where to turn to fix any of it. Historically no party has had more control of their machine then the modern GOP.

The machine is broken and communications are strained and breaking down as people fall into more and more factions protecting their own turf.

They have a name. But does that make a party…the Republican party?

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:51:35am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

If you want to get in to the series, don’t!

Oh I have no plans to. It is not my type of chosen entertainment.

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:52:34am

re: #356 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

nerve gas…

We got rid of that shit.

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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:53:37am

The NYT has had a couple of good opinion pieces about the Republican party this week.

Those who have witnessed Gov. Chris Christie’s performance both in New Jersey and in the national arena over the past couple of years almost could have seen Friday’s sweaty embrace of Donald Trump coming. Almost.

Once upon a time, the governor put his state first, for good and ill. Today, he is driven by twin demons: national political ambition and vengefulness. By cozying up to Mr. Trump, he feeds both.

—-

Lack of self-awareness can be fatal. The haplessness of the Republican establishment in the face of Trumpism is a case in point.

As many have noted, it’s remarkable how shocked — shocked! — that establishment has been at the success of Donald Trump’s racist, xenophobic campaign. Who knew that this kind of thing would appeal to the party’s base? Isn’t the G.O.P. the party of Ronald Reagan, who sold conservatism with high-minded philosophical messages, like talking about a “strapping young buck” using food stamps to buy T-bone steaks?

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:53:50am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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True, but thanks to lots of precipitation, actual water levels haven’t suffered, at least not for Lake Michigan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:54:05am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

We got rid of that shit.

I’m sure we can still find some in Iraq if we just look hard enough…

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:55:20am

re: #359 ObserverArt

You hit the nail on the head. No one dare go near that Trump person because he threatens to sue those who make statements against him. He is using fear and salesmanship to get as much publicity as possible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 8:57:45am

re: #365 PhillyPretzel

You hit the nail on the head. No one dare go near that Trump person because he threatens to sue those who make statements against him. He is using fear and salesmanship to get as much publicity as possible.

Right now he simply has the power to deny media access, which is tantamount to ratings suicide for the news outlets.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:02:05am

re: #341 lawhawk

Trump supporters going full Trump (and racist/xenophobic in process):

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To which I responded, Civil wars and insurrections. Yeah, that ~never~ happens in the West. Or Europe.

These people don’t get it. And they revel in it.

Europe was hell on earth as recently as 1945. And a significant portion was just about twenty years ago.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:02:57am

re: #365 PhillyPretzel

You hit the nail on the head. No one dare go near that Trump person because he threatens to sue those who make statements against him. He is using fear and salesmanship to get as much publicity as possible.

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Right now he simply has the power to deny media access, which is tantamount to suicide for the news outlets.

All those smart people that thought they could ride the TRUMP to fortune. It is going to cost them. Trump right now probably has accountants figuring out what it will cost for them to get their balls back. It isn’t going to be cheap. And we are all going to be paying for this for a long time.

(Time to go remove more wood finish…lurk mode.)

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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:04:28am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is almost no snow on the ground in the Twin Cities. It’s supposed to hit 54 degrees tomorrow. In February. In Minnesota.

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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:05:13am

re: #358 Teukka

nerve gas…

No need for nerve gas, really. Use something which is harmless but spends the filter cartridges (basically particle filters and activated charcoal), then hit them with tear gas or pepper spray.

*ducks*

Folding Chairs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:07:16am

re: #369 stpaulbear

There is almost no snow on the ground in the Twin Cities. It’s supposed to hit 54 degrees tomorrow. In February. In Minnesota.

It will be 67F here in the backwoods on Sunday, 55 on Monday, 64 on Tuesday…then it starts snowing again on Tuesday night and most of Wednesday.

gah.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:08:36am

re: #342 ObserverArt

You have to give it to bully Trump for how he handled the GOP from the get-go. When he first came out the GOP thought it would be self destruction that would take Trump out. However Trump got attention and he started to show up in the polls but not strong numbers right off and the GOP held off still thinking he will fizzle out once people get sick of the act. People didn’t get sick of the act, they started to come out to the early rallies he held and his numbers started to go.

Right about this time the GOP should have seen that they needed to nuke Trump because he was catching on. But they didn’t. Some of the GOP powers must have thought that they could ride Trump a bit and use some of the attention to attract new voters and when Trump went down, they’d have more new voters to use against the Dems. Sound familiar? It was how they tried to use and control the Tea Party folks. Use and ignore.

Then Trump pulled what I think will be seen as his master stroke. He somehow managed to bully the party by saying that if he wasn’t treated properly with all the respect he deserved he would go independent and leave the GOP race. And they stupidly came out and assured him they would do just that. They fed the bully and he had them bent over to where he could call the shots and do anything he wanted.

They probably should have called his bluff right then and then opened up with full canons blazing and blow him up with the help of all their media like Fox and Rush. Trump may have gone independent, but with everyone tearing him down he might have started to not get all the TV and other media coverage that really fueled him on. No attention by the media and no party support and he may have gone away because he thrives on the attention and bullying. It also would cost him his own money to stay independent and buy the attention he would need.

Outside the party he wouldn’t have had the GOP debates that he turned into must see TV and used to further strengthen him in the party. Between the media covering more and more and the GOP’s own candidates slipping in the polls, Trump used the GOP to get bigger and bigger and made his threat to leave the GOP stronger and stronger.

Right then the GOP was sunk. The minute they allowed him to control them with his “independent run” bluff and calling for fairness all the damn time to remind them of the bluff it was over.

The GOP has no one else to blame.

And if the GOP can’t control someone like Trump in a political run they actually have control over, why would anyone think the GOP could control any damn thing in America and all over the world?

I hope the Democrats make a point of this. If Trump is your candidate and you publicly say you don’t want him as your candidate the real message is your party is out of control and is fucked beyond all belief.

Excellent point. They get all over Obama because he can’t make Putin, Assad, Iran, Daesh and China obey him, and they can’t even handle a reality show star and their own racist base.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:08:54am

In other news: It looks like Republicans aren’t the only ones who appropriate music without permission…

Bikini Kill’s Tobi Vail files copyright notice over Clinton campaign’s use of “Rebel Girl”

Apparently, the song was used in a fan video that went viral and the campaign ran with it.

Still. Not a good look.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:10:38am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

Philly has a possibility of snow near the end of next week. forecast.weather.gov

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:13:48am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

It will be 67F here in the backwoods on Sunday, 55 on Monday, 64 on Tuesday…then it starts snowing again on Tuesday night and most of Wednesday.

gah.

Shit, I have a 4+ hour drive to Murray on Wednesday. And back.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:15:41am
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:16:38am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart

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I’m sure a Koch funded scientist would dispute that.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:16:46am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart

They need scientists to tell them that. lol

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:16:49am

re: #373 makeitstop

In other news: It looks like Republicans aren’t the only ones who appropriate music without permission…

Bikini Kill’s Tobi Vail files copyright notice over Clinton campaign’s use of “Rebel Girl”

Apparently, the song was used in a fan video that went viral and the campaign ran with it.

Still. Not a good look.

The campaign likely figured they could get good mileage out of it before The Letter arrived, so they did. They may have also thought a lesser-known band would be glad for the publicity and would ignore the infringement.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:17:05am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart

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I love Franken. He’s really become an effective Senator. I have to admit I thought it was a joke when I saw he was running in 2008 but he’s proven me quite wrong about him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:18:15am

re: #377 Big Beautiful Door

I’m sure a Koch funded scientist would dispute that.

Well a Koch funded scientist would tell you the President’s term doesn’t actually exist becaus the Kochs don’t see Obama nor treat him as the legitimately elected President.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:19:49am

re: #340 Eric The Fruit Bat

My god, I can’t belive Dennis Rodman would display such poor judgement.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:28:52am

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

The campaign likely figured they could get good mileage out of it before The Letter arrived, so they did. They may have also thought a lesser-known band would be glad for the publicity and would ignore the infringement.

Or the Letter gave them publicity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:31:12am
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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:31:47am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart

That’s my senator. :) :) :)

I was nervous about the whole concept of Franken running for senator, but when he got the nod I was happy to vote for him, and he’s turned out to be one of the most diligent policy wonks in the senate right now. I hope he wants to stay on for 5-6 more terms…

edit: of course I’m about 15 minutes behind Happy Warrior @ 380…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:36:36am

OT: WANTED: Committed Cat Lover for Malheur!

We will seize illegally held land and use it to establish a herd of free range cats from which to harvest wool. Malheur is the purrfect site for cat ranching the way God intended. It has an abundance of natural food, water, and a mild climate. Birds are plentiful. Catnip should thrive. We will develop a new breed: the Harney County ranch cat. We need hardy breeding stock such as Maine Coon, Manx, ‘merican Bobtail, and Persian (natural born only). No hairless cats unless neutered/spayed. A few lions would be useful for defensive purposes. We don’t expect them to breed with ranch stock. Artificial insemination might work but who wants to try that with a male lion? Our ranch will create sustainable community jobs and a quality organic product for the domestic market. We will have a low carbon footprint because felines produce little flatulence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:36:38am

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

This country is so fucked.

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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:37:13am

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

I found the Donald Trump commemorative stamp over at the USPS website.

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Skip Intro  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:37:15am

re: #340 Eric The Fruit Bat

You can add radio talker Don Imus to the list

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:38:10am

re: #385 stpaulbear

edit: of course I’m about 15 minutes behind Happy Warrior @ 380…

More than that!

/Time zones; can’t live with ‘em, can’t live without ‘em.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:39:16am

re: #389 Skip Intro

Oh, Lord, The I-Man’s thrown in with Trump? I’m surprised that old fossil’s still alive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:39:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:41:07am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mitch still believes the SCOTUS crap he’s pulling is a winning move for keeping the Senate majority…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:42:24am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

McConnell has said the senate would drop Trump like a “hot rock” if he is harming chances of holding majority

that “hot rock” is tied around the GOP’s neck…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:42:27am

Ever notice how a couple days into being sick, you forget what it feels like to be well?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:43:06am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

The problem is, how easy is to just “drop Trump like a hot rock” (whatever the fuck that means)??

If they drop him despite having the majority of delegates, the party base rebels, which will also fuck up their chances of trying to hold on to the Senate.

The GOP have doused themselves in gasoline and now they’re fighting over matchbooks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:44:02am

re: #395 Blind Frog Belly White

Ever notice how a couple days into being sick, you forget what it feels like to be well?

I blew my back out once and had to take pain killers that made me really goofy stoned, but after a week of being happily buzzed up and lying on the sofa, I forgot what it was like not to be buzzed and stupid (and I was getting constipated) so I was glad to get off them.

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:45:34am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mitch still believes the SCOTUS crap he’s pulling is a winning move for keeping the Senate majority…

It is, because for Republicans to confirm an Obama nominee would be to break their promise. The party base turned out in 2014 expecting those they elected to the Senate to hold the line against Obama. For those same senators to fail to block an Obama nomination to the Supreme Court would be a betrayal and the party base would punish the senators who committed said betrayal.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:46:13am

re: #397 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I blew my back out once and had to take pain killers that made me really goofy stoned, but after a week of being happily buzzed up and lying on the sofa, I forgot what it was like not to be buzzed and stupid (and I was getting constipated) so I was glad to get off them.

Last time I had a kidney stone, the doctor prescribed me some Norco. First day felt great. Second day, not so much. Third day, bleah, so I stopped after the morning pill.

Finally pooped 4 days later.

I know, I know - TMI!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:47:00am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

sigh……………..

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:47:07am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

It is, because for Republicans to confirm an Obama nominee would be to break their promise. The party base turned out in 2014 expecting those they elected to the Senate to hold the line against Obama. For those same senators to fail to block an Obama nomination to the Supreme Court would be a betrayal and the party base would punish the senators who committed said betrayal.

Really? Who else they gonna vote for?

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:47:45am

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

The campaign likely figured they could get good mileage out of it before The Letter arrived, so they did. They may have also thought a lesser-known band would be glad for the publicity and would ignore the infringement.

You don’t mess with Bikini Kill. One of the first line of ‘Riot Grrl’ bands. They don’t play.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:47:57am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

Are you at least willing to admit your preferred Party has some major problems right now?

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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:48:10am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

Because unified obstruction is so much more important than a functioning government.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:49:45am

re: #391 Eric The Fruit Bat

Oh, Lord, The I-Man’s thrown in with Trump? I’m surprised that old fossil’s still alive.

Not surprising. Imus has always been maverick-y.

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Skip Intro  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:49:55am

Charles Pierce quote of the day: The current Republican frontrunner now has stopped flirting with fascism and is now taking it out to dinner and a show.

esquire.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:50:35am

google translation:

If I were American, I ‘d vote Donald Trump … but God bless him !

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:51:56am

re: #403 Eclectic Cyborg

I will personally admit there are some major problems that are not easily fixed. It will take many election cycles to come close to making the GOP a somewhat viable party.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:52:17am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t he one of the French right wing nutcases?

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:52:40am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

It is, because for Republicans to confirm an Obama nominee would be to break their promise. The party base turned out in 2014 expecting those they elected to the Senate to hold the line against Obama. For those same senators to fail to block an Obama nomination to the Supreme Court would be a betrayal and the party base would punish the senators who committed said betrayal.

‘Republican Leadership’ = caving to the base on everything.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:53:02am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did the Commons ever vote to ban that Trump person?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:53:15am

According to the New York Times, McConnell is assuring Senate candidates running for reelection that they should feel free to run ads against Trump if they feel he is hurting their own campaigns. According to senators attending private lunches with the Majority Leader, McConnell is taking the approach that Trump will lose badly in the general election and that senators should sell themselves as a bulwark against a Hillary Clinton presidency.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:53:20am

re: #404 stpaulbear

Because unified obstruction is so much more important than a functioning government.

As long as they prevent the Black Guy In The White House from doing anything, they figure they’re winning. Doesn’t matter what it is he’s trying to do, doesn’t matter whether it’s something they supported till he was elected. It’s all about preventing That N****r from accomplishing anything, so they can call having a Black President a failure.

You thought the GOP plumbed the depths of Party Over Country when Clinton was President? Nah. They may have impeached him, but they worked with him to pass legislation. But Obama? Can’t let the First Black President accomplish anything, or it ruins their White Privilege narrative.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:53:27am

re: #409 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t he one of the French right wing nutcases?

yep

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A Mom Anon  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:53:45am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

OFFS. They are not doing the job they were hired and swore a damned oath to do. Period. This is not a damned team sports championship, this crap is hurting real people. This is nothing more than bullshit politics, not actual GOVERNANCE. Politics and governance are two different things. They get paid more per year than my family makes in 4 (and that’s just from their Senate jobs, this doesn’t count the other shit they do on the side to be millionaires) and they only work for about half the year. Not to mention that when they do show up, they pull crap like this.

IMO, part of why they pull shit is not just to play “rah, rah, my team or die”, but to also discourage people from participating in the political process. I for one am sick of it. If I pulled this kind of tantrum shit at any job I’ve ever had I would have been out the door 10 minutes later. And it’s creating a horrible divide that is infesting families and neighborhoods all over the country. Fuck them.

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:54:20am

re: #410 wrenchwench

‘Republican Leadership’ = caving to the base on everything.

I think that’s where Trump came from.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:54:39am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

It is, because for Republicans to confirm an Obama nominee would be to break their promise. The party base turned out in 2014 expecting those they elected to the Senate to hold the line against Obama. For those same senators to fail to block an Obama nomination to the Supreme Court would be a betrayal and the party base would punish the senators who committed said betrayal.

You know when the Dems regained the Senate in 1986, they still gave Reagan’s kook Bork a hearing. This is pathetic behavior by your party and I hope to God they lose the Presidency and their Senate majority over it. They’re not standing up to Obama. They’re being childish brats.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:55:23am

re: #415 A Mom Anon

same here.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:56:01am

Not to mention for all the GOP grandstanding against Obama, he’s still managed to get a lot of shit done. Even most Republicans would have to begrudgingly admit that.

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Skip Intro  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:56:11am

re: #415 A Mom Anon

Taking DF’s statement to it’s logical end, if most or all of the Supremes were no longer able to serve, the GOP would be obligated to leave the court empty or unable to function.

This is what happens when you let unprincipled fanatics take control of the government.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:56:12am

re: #295 Dr. Matt

You forgot “NFL lawsuit - fail”.

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:56:36am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

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google translation:

That’s an endorsement that should hurt The Donald, but its actually going to help him with nativists who will take it as more evidence Trump is going to hammer Mexicans and Muslims.

17 days… 17 days till the Illinois primary. I gotta drum up some more support for Rubio. I’ll go crazy if my home state votes for Trump in the primary.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:56:43am

re: #409 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t he one of the French right wing nutcases?

Yep Holocaust denier and Petain apologist. One of the original EUrofascists in the post WWII world.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:58:39am

I think Dark hasn’t come to realize that base he speaks of…it is made of quicksand. I wouldn’t be building on it.

And second, I still contend the last few elections have had a lot of a ‘throw the bums out’ thing going on where people crossed party lines to knock long standing politicians out. It happened in 2010 and in 2014. That means some Democrats and a bunch of independent types helped eliminate Democrats.

To me that hasn’t died off yet and actually may be bigger. And guess who the bums are now? Republicans bums enjoying approval numbers less than 20%. Throw them out to.

Party unity may be at a 50 year low in America. People are way more independent now than ever. Nothing can be counted on. And if they don’t get what they want, out go more bums.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:59:03am

re: #422 Dark_Falcon

That’s an endorsement that should hurt The Donald, but its actually going to help him with nativists who will take it as more evidence Trump is going to hammer Mexicans and Muslims.

17 days… 17 days till the Illinois primary. I gotta drum up some more support for Rubio. I’ll go crazy if my home state votes for Trump in the primary.

And that’s a problem with your party that Anti-Muslim is seen as a strength. Shit man I remember some of my Muslim classmates preferring Bush over Gore. You better get used to Trump because it’s very well he’s going to be your nominee or at the very least have significant influence. It’s a pity really. 160 years ago the Republican Party was founded by former Anti-Slavery Whigs, Democrats, and others and now they’re a party of this asshole.

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:59:13am

re: #422 Dark_Falcon

That’s an endorsement that should hurt The Donald, but its actually going to help him with nativists who will take it as more evidence Trump is going to hammer Mexicans and Muslims.

17 days… 17 days till the Illinois primary. I gotta drum up some more support for Rubio. I’ll go crazy if my home state votes for Trump in the primary.

That’s looking like a shorter trip all the time. Come on, man. You’re smarter than this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2016 • 9:59:29am

re: #422 Dark_Falcon

That’s an endorsement that should hurt The Donald, but its actually going to help him with nativists who will take it as more evidence Trump is going to hammer Mexicans and Muslims.

17 days… 17 days till the Illinois primary. I gotta drum up some more support for Rubio. I’ll go crazy if my home state votes for Trump in the primary.

But if Trump were to get the nomination, you’d hold your nose and vote for him wouldn’t you?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:00:02am

re: #422 Dark_Falcon

I’ll go crazy if my home state votes for Trump in the primary.

Don’t be surprised if they do-when I lived there I was no more than 10 miles away from a Bircher sign on the Cook/Kane County boundary.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:00:24am

re: #427 Eclectic Cyborg

But if Trump were to get the nomination, you’d hold your nose and him wouldn’t you?

Yes, but he’ll tell us he won’t.

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:03:19am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

You know when the Dems regained the Senate in 1986, they still gave Reagan’s kook Bork a hearing. This is pathetic behavior by your party and I hope to God they lose the Presidency and their Senate majority over it. They’re not standing up to Obama. They’re being childish brats.

The Bork hearings were a classic hatchet job. By making said hearing such, Teddy Kennedy and the Dems accelerated the current trend of high-stakes SCOTUS nominations. The actions of 2016 Republicans is just the logical end point of such a trend: We can’t afford to lose the high court and allowing Obama to replace Scalia would almost certainly be to lose it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:04:04am

Honestly can I ask a serious question in what ways is Rubio really that much better than Trump? I’ll actually give Trump some grudging credit on Planned Parenthood that I can’t give to Rubio in fact and that he’s not as into letting the Kim Davises or the various “Christian bakers” of the world let their religion discriminate against people as much as Rubio and Cruz are. Rubio did have that brief moment on immigration but then he immediately panicked like a spooked rabbit when he got push back from te base on it. That’s the Republicans’ great white hope? This guy?

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:05:13am

re: #429 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes, but he’ll tell us he won’t.

I’ve said I won’t, but I know that only goes so far, since no one here can verify which way another lizard votes. The secret ballot is a good thing, but it can cause credibility issues at times.

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:06:26am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

Rubio’s not really anyone’s great white hope, since he’s Latino.

/Better to be a smartass than a dumbass.

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gwangung  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:06:42am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

The Bork hearings were a classic hatchet job. By making said hearing such, Teddy Kennedy and the Dems accelerated the current trend of high-stakes SCOTUS nominations. The actions of 2016 Republicans is just the logical end point of such a trend: We can’t afford to lose the high court and allowing Obama to replace Scalia would almost certainly be to lose it.

Bullcrap Both Sides Do It.

And you’re looking in a mirror, bub. WHat you see out there is what you, yourself, love to do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:07:01am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

The Bork hearings were a classic hatchet job. By making said hearing such, Teddy Kennedy and the Dems accelerated the current trend of high-stakes SCOTUS nominations. The actions of 2016 Republicans is just the logical end point of such a trend: We can’t afford to lose the high court and allowing Obama to replace Scalia would almost certainly be to lose it.

I’m not going to respond to this, I’m just going to leave it as an “agree to disagree” situation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:08:14am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

The Bork hearings were a classic hatchet job. By making said hearing such, Teddy Kennedy and the Dems accelerated the current trend of high-stakes SCOTUS nominations. The actions of 2016 Republicans is just the logical end point of such a trend: We can’t afford to lose the high court and allowing Obama to replace Scalia would almost certainly be to lose it.

good grief…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:08:36am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

The Bork hearings were a classic hatchet job. By making said hearing such, Teddy Kennedy and the Dems accelerated the current trend of high-stakes SCOTUS nominations. The actions of 2016 Republicans is just the logical end point of such a trend: We can’t afford to lose the high court and allowing Obama to replace Scalia would almost certainly be to lose it.

Let me remind you of a few things here) Reagan chose someone quite extreme with a Democratic majority in the Senate so he knew what this would be, there were Repulbicans like my own senator who voted against that crazed lunatic so do NOT insult my intelligence and try to make it just like the Dems had a problem with Bork here, also Kennedy’s views on Bork were 100% correct, there was even evidence of Bork saying a poll tax wasn’t a big deal because of its size, and finally this is just it. “lose the high court.” The high court isn’t yours, it isn’t mine, it’s everyone’s. And so fucking be it, the court has swung right since the day that Reagan made William Rehnquist the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court so maybe it’s high time that the court swing back to the center not I said center not hte left. Obama’s nominee deserves a hearing a least and it’s beyond pathetic that you’re playing partisan games. I hope if they do this block, Clinton wins and gives you a left wing Scaiia to mock conservative judicial views with the same nastiness Scalia showed to liberal interpretations of the law.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:08:46am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

The Bork hearings were a classic hatchet job. By making said hearing such, Teddy Kennedy and the Dems accelerated the current trend of high-stakes SCOTUS nominations. The actions of 2016 Republicans is just the logical end point of such a trend: We can’t afford to lose the high court and allowing Obama to replace Scalia would almost certainly be to lose it.

At least you’re being honest. Nothing of “tradition”, nothing about The Constitution, just winning and losing. You couldn’t get the White House in 2012, so now you’ll break every rule in the book to keep control.

No principles, no morals. Just control. Disgusting.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:09:05am

re: #433 Dark_Falcon

Rubio’s not really anyone’s great white hope, since he’s Latino.

/Better to be a smartass than a dumbass.

He’s white. Latino isn’t a race.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:09:12am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

Bork was a bad nominee from the get-go. The fact that he was part of the Saturday Night Massacre made him immediately disqualified right out of the gate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:09:29am

The GOP has become infected with Trumper Fasciitis…and it may be terminal.

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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:09:46am

re: #422 Dark_Falcon

That’s an endorsement that should hurt The Donald, but its actually going to help him with nativists who will take it as more evidence Trump is going to hammer Mexicans and Muslims.

17 days… 17 days till the Illinois primary. I gotta drum up some more support for Rubio. I’ll go crazy if my home state votes for Trump in the primary.

I hope you go crazy like our host Charles Johnson or like John Cole over at Balloon Juice. If you can let go and go crazy like that, you’ll find that there’s an incredibly rewarding life on the other side.

Quit locking yourself into a worldview that’s very rapidly spinning down the drain.

Please.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:10:06am

Tradition seems to dictate that the process of selecting and confirming a new SCOTUS judge takes around 3-4 months

Obama is president until next January.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:10:41am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

The Bork hearings were a classic hatchet job. By making said hearing such, Teddy Kennedy and the Dems accelerated the current trend of high-stakes SCOTUS nominations. The actions of 2016 Republicans is just the logical end point of such a trend: We can’t afford to lose the high court and allowing Obama to replace Scalia would almost certainly be to lose it.

‘Hatchet job’ or no (debateable), he at least got a hearing.

What your team is doing is on another level entirely. You mean to tell me they couldn’t at least keep up the appearance that they’re actually doing what we pay them to do?

Or is doing their fucking job ‘breaking a promise?’

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:11:40am

re: #440 Eric The Fruit Bat

Bork was a bad nominee from the get-go. The fact that he was part of the Saturday Night Massacre made him immediately disqualified right out of the gate.

Reagan knew what he was getting into there. Really if Obama had chosen someone with a Republican majority Senate as controversial as Bork was, I’d be pissed at him not fellating him at every second like Republicans do with Reagan but then again I respect my president, I don’t worship him lke Republicans do and Reagan.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:11:48am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

The Bork hearings were a classic hatchet job. By making said hearing such, Teddy Kennedy and the Dems accelerated the current trend of high-stakes SCOTUS nominations. The actions of 2016 Republicans is just the logical end point of such a trend: We can’t afford to lose the high court and allowing Obama to replace Scalia would almost certainly be to lose it.

6 Republican Senators voted against Bork. Tell us again how this was all partisan.

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:12:15am

re: #439 HappyWarrior

re: #433 Dark_Falcon

Rubio’s not really anyone’s great white hope, since he’s Latino.

/Better to be a smartass than a dumbass.

He’s white. Latino isn’t a race.

He’s going for both.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:12:27am

re: #445 HappyWarrior

Reagan knew what he was getting into there. Really if Obama had chosen someone with a Republican majority Senate as controversial as Bork was, I’d be pissed at him not fellating him at every second like Republicans do with Reagan but then again I respect my president, I don’t worship him lke Republicans do and Reagan.

It would be like Obama nominating Van Jones.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:14:00am

re: #448 Blind Frog Belly White

It would be like Obama nominate Van Jones.

I’d say Bork had a little more legal qualifications than Jones did but it would be a similiar premise. Reagan knew he was playing with fire by picking Bork and he did it end anyhow. I guess in that way, Reagan showed why he never had a “real job” before politics. Yeah I went there, I’m sorry but to call Bork a partisan hatchet job is an insult to the six Republican senators who had the good sense to know that President Reagan made a terrible choice for the high court.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:15:57am

re: #429 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes, but he’ll tell us he won’t.

Based upon what I’ve read in LGF, I don’t think that’s in DF’s character.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:16:08am

re: #444 makeitstop

‘Hatchet job’ or no (debateable), he at least got a hearing.

What your team is doing is on another level entirely. You mean to tell me they couldn’t at least keep up the appearance that they’re actually doing what we pay them to do?

Or is doing their fucking job ‘breaking a promise?’

It’s also not “the logical end point”, which will be when a Senate of the opposite party from a President refuses to confirm any nominations to anything. The next step towards that would be if, say HRC wins the Presidency but the GOP keeps the Senate, and they refuse to act on HER nominee to the Senate. Mind you, it could also be Trump facing a Democratic Senate, because the cork is out of the bottle and Mitch McConnell has let the genie escape.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:16:39am

Oh and by the way, if you want to talk about the actual genesis, I’d like to talk about the attacks placed on Justice Fortas when LBJ was going to have him replace Justice Warren in 1968 as Chief Justice. And I’ll add that Scalia got a fair hearing when he was nominated. There is literally no excuse nor precedent to refuse to give the President’s nominee a hearing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:16:53am

re: #451 Blind Frog Belly White

… the cork is out of the bottle and Mitch McConnell has let the genie escape.

and drained the contents

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:18:08am

Bork was a freaking kook.

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:18:47am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

Oh and by the way, if you want to talk about the actual genesis, I’d like to talk about the attacks placed on Justice Fortas when LBJ was going to have him replace Justice Warren in 1968 as Chief Justice. And I’ll add that Scalia got a fair hearing when he was nominated. There is literally no excuse nor precedent to refuse to give the President’s nominee a hearing.

‘Context’ is so difficult.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:19:08am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

There is literally no excuse nor precedent to refuse to give the President’s nominee a hearing.

But the President is black now so…yeah.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:19:18am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

The Bork hearings were a classic hatchet job. By making said hearing such, Teddy Kennedy and the Dems accelerated the current trend of high-stakes SCOTUS nominations. The actions of 2016 Republicans is just the logical end point of such a trend: We can’t afford to lose the high court and allowing Obama to replace Scalia would almost certainly be to lose it.

Yep. You are a Republican. That comment had all the juicy points in it. I always love the scary Ted Kennedy references.

Bork was a loon. Many in the party knew it. This is just an excuse to act out now.

I’ll ask you a question that I know you’ll never answer (which happens a lot).

If this was a Republican President faced with a Democrat Senate in his last eleven months in office and the Supreme court was very liberal and said Republican President could maybe swing the court to a more conservative court what would you and that base want done?

I can assure you there is only one answer, especially knowing your politics which you have been most clear about.

So then the question really becomes why is McConnell’s and your idealism any more important to Obama’s and my idealism?

Oh gee. One answer to that one too. Politics.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:21:24am

re: #456 Eclectic Cyborg

But the President is black now so…yeah.

Yeah McConnell can’t stand having a black man as his boss. He misses the good old days in Kentucky where Obama would have to call him sir.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:22:45am

re: #455 wrenchwench

‘Context’ is so difficult.

Always is. Shit, the 1800 election was the most hotly contested in history probably and Adams still was allowed to appointed John Marshall after he LOST. The Republican Party is setting up a dangerous precedent here and I’ll add one that will bite them in their fat asses if a similar situation arises in a Republican presidency.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:22:51am

re: #458 HappyWarrior

Yeah McConnell can’t stand having a black man as his boss. He misses the good old days in Kentucky where Obama would have to call him sir “Suh!”.

FTFY

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:23:08am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

Oh and by the way, if you want to talk about the actual genesis, I’d like to talk about the attacks placed on Justice Fortas when LBJ was going to have him replace Justice Warren in 1968 as Chief Justice. And I’ll add that Scalia got a fair hearing when he was nominated. There is literally no excuse nor precedent to refuse to give the President’s nominee a hearing.

Fortas was different from Bork, given that he was principally attacked not for his views, but for ethics violations concerning whom he was taking money from.

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:24:19am

re: #456 Eclectic Cyborg

But the President is black now so…yeah.

It’s not that he’s black, its that he nominates left-liberals whose views on the Constitution I find severely flawed.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:25:34am

re: #461 Dark_Falcon

Fortas was different from Bork, given that he was principally attacked not for his views, but for ethics violations concerning whom he was taking money from.

Raised by Strom Thurmond, an avowed segregationist no less. The point here is though don’t act like the Democrats started it with Bork. Reagan and his top advisers were stupid and pigheaded enough to choose him with a Democratic Majority in the Senate and him being a well documented extremist.

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The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:25:40am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

Who could possibly take exception to Bork’s insistence that a few poll taxes weren’t a big deal?

The dude was not shot down by a conspiracy, but because his extremist views were readily apparent in his crazy-ass writings. Nobody had to get out a shovel and dig to find something objectionable. He wrote extensively about how he felt about a giant raft of Supreme Court precedent, in very specific terms, that left absolutely no questions as to how much of a nutter he was. Most notably, in his exceedingly narrow interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

If you imagine that Bork’s support of literacy tests, poll taxes, and dislike of one-person, one-vote weren’t issues that would stick in the craw of many, many people, you’re high. If you’re on board with his wack-ass reading of the First Amendment, that excluded art and literature from protections, you’re just a jerk.

Or are you just repeating a myth passed down by your conservative ancestors? I realize that “borking” is one of those great stories the elders at Heritage Foundation have been circulating. How the nasssttty Baggins Kennedy took away their Precious.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:26:59am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

It’s not that he’s black, its that he nominates left-liberals whose views on the Constitution I find severely flawed.

None of the names mentioned have been left liberals so nope. And why shouldn’t left liberals get a voice on the court? You had Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Roberts as a strong right ward bent for years. Tough shit that Scalia had to die in Obama’s presidency for you all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:28:05am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

It’s not that he’s black, its that he nominates left-liberals whose views on the Constitution I find severely flawed.

Sure.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:28:20am

re: #433 Dark_Falcon

Rubio’s not really anyone’s great white hope, since he’s Latino.

/Better to be a smartass than a dumbass.

IMHO, Latins of other national origin do not consider Rubio to be Latin, but Cuban. And not one of them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:28:30am

Obama’s picks have been far more center minded than Bush’s were. Kagan and Sotomayor are not anywhere near to the right as Scalia was or Alito is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:28:55am

re: #451 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s also not “the logical end point”, which will be when a Senate of the opposite party from a President refuses to confirm any nominations to anything. The next step towards that would be if, say HRC wins the Presidency but the GOP keeps the Senate, and they refuse to act on HER nominee to the Senate. Mind you, it could also be Trump facing a Democratic Senate, because the cork is out of the bottle and Mitch McConnell has let the genie escape.

McConnell already said that will happen.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:31:52am

So what’s the excuse going to be if Obama chooses someone that many of these same Republican senators have voted on? Hell even Cruz, fucking Cruz praised Judge Srinivasan.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:32:35am

Speaking of the Klan, looks like they (or someone claiming to be them) are holding a rally in Anaheim today. This is an interesting piece of local history that doesn’t get taught in schools:

It was not clear what, if any, connection the event organizers had to the Anaheim area, but the group has a long and troubling history with the city. Klansmen were once the dominant political force in Anaheim, holding four of five City Council seats before a recall effort led to their ouster in 1924.

At the height of its power in Orange County, nearly 300 Klansmen lived in Anaheim, patrolling city streets in robes and masks. A large KKK rally once attracted 20,000 people to the city.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:32:50am

As I said above, it’s refreshing that Dark finally admits that there’s no principle or tradition behind this. Just control, which he’s willing to trample on the Constitution to preserve.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:33:21am

re: #471 KGxvi

Speaking of the Klan, looks like they (or someone claiming to be them) are holding a rally in Anaheim today. This is an interesting piece of local history that doesn’t get taught in schools:

Yeah a lot of people don’t realize how much the KKK was involved in the country in the 20’s.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:34:37am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

It’s not that he’s black, its that he nominates left-liberals whose views on the Constitution I find severely flawed.

Now wait just a damned minute. If a Conservative can nominate right leaning individuals it should be a given that a Democrat can nominate someone who leans left.

We know you don’t agree with Obama. Most Conservatives don’t, but guess what? Obama isn’t a Conservative so he’s not going to nominate one. The people chose a Democratic President who by extension will probably choose a Democratic leaning nominee.

This is how politics works.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:34:51am

Uh - Robert Bork was an extremist far right theocrat with bizarre views on the First Amendment and lots of other issues. Pretending his nomination was rejected just because Ted Kennedy didn’t like him is absurd.

This country dodged a bullet when he wasn’t approved for the Supreme Court. It would have been a nightmare.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:36:14am

I have an FB friend who’s gay and Republican, and thought the world of Scalia. That I can’t fathom, because Scalia thought the State had a compelling interest in who he has sex with, and could choose to imprison him for consensual sex. Really don’t get that. I mean, sure there’s more than one issue, but that’s kind of a central one, I’d think. It also cuts right to the heart of the idea that Conservatism is about Freedom in any sense.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:36:37am

re: #474 Eclectic Cyborg

Now wait just a damned minute. If a Conservative can nominate right leaning individuals it should be a given that a Democrat can nominate someone who leans left.

We know you don’t agree with Obama. Most Conservatives don’t, but guess what? Obama isn’t a Conservative so he’s not going to nominate one. The people chose a Democratic President who by extension will probably choose a Democratic leaning nominee.

This is how politics works.

Shit even Scalia said, “I know your man won’t pick someone I agree with but I hope he sends us someone smart.” He even thought highly of Kagan. Listen, when Bush made his picks, I knew they weren’t going to be who I liked. Roberts I was actually okay with. Alito less so but that’s how it goes. To not even give Obama’s a hearing because they might be left leaning is just pathetic. Really, this is just setting up a terrible precedent and making a mockery of the court for selfish political reasons.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:36:39am

re: #470 HappyWarrior

So what’s the excuse going to be if Obama chooses someone that many of these same Republican senators have voted on? Hell even Cruz, fucking Cruz praised Judge Srinivasan.

Wingnut Logic
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Ming5000  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:36:42am

re: #340 Eric The Fruit Bat

From the above cited article from NYT, a selection from the comments:

Two weeks ago, LePage said Trump must be stopped he will destroy the party. Yesterday he endorses him. These people are such buffoons.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:37:35am

re: #475 Charles Johnson

Uh - Robert Bork was an extremist far right theocrat with bizarre views on the First Amendment and lots of other issues. Pretending his nomination was rejected just because Ted Kennedy didn’t like him is absurd.

This country dodged a bullet when he wasn’t approved for the Supreme Court. It would have been a nightmare.

It was a great thing Kennedy did. We ended up getting the other Kennedy instead who’s actually been a decent justice unlike Bork who would have been a right wing judicial activist posing as a strict constructionist.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:38:24am

re: #480 HappyWarrior

It was a great thing Kennedy died. We ended up getting the other Kennedy instead who’s actually been a decent justice unlike Bork who would have been a right wing judicial activist posing as a strict constructionist.

I presume you meant to say ‘did’?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:39:04am

re: #481 Blind Frog Belly White

I presume you meant to say ‘did’?

Yeah quickly realized and fixed. Stubby fingers.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:39:57am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

It’s not that he’s black, its that he nominates left-liberals whose views on the Constitution I find severely flawed.

Can you elaborate? Because this kind of soundbite nonsense is incredibly stupid in general political matters and appointments, but it is a special kind of stupid when it comes from laypersons talking about the judiciary.

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:40:45am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

It’s not that he’s black, its that he nominates left-liberals whose views on the Constitution I find severely flawed.

In the future, when you’re comparing our Black presidents, you’ll find a high correlation between those observations.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:41:24am

re: #475 Charles Johnson

Uh - Robert Bork was an extremist far right theocrat with bizarre views on the First Amendment and lots of other issues. Pretending his nomination was rejected just because Ted Kennedy didn’t like him is absurd.

This country dodged a bullet when he wasn’t approved for the Supreme Court. It would have been a nightmare.

Keep in mind that Bork, that great conservative legal mind that he supposedly was, called the Ninth Amendment an “inkblot upon the Constitution” in explaining he had no idea what it meant.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:41:40am

Take DF’s statements to their logical conclusion,and he’d shut it all down to keep liberals out, functioning government be damned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:42:45am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

It’s not that he’s black, its that he nominates left-liberals whose views on the Constitution I find severely flawed.

Scalia liked Kagan a lot and welcomed her addition to SCOTUS.

Unbelievable that your sense of flawed is even more extreme than Scalia’s.

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:42:56am

Liberals bad, conservatives good. Go team.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:44:03am

re: #485 KGxvi

Keep in mind that Bork, that great conservative legal mind that he supposedly was, called the Ninth Amendment an “inkblot upon the Constitution” in explaining he had no idea what it meant.

Well it figures that individual rights would be a foreign concept to an asshole like Bork. Really as I said, Reagan either was a complete idiot and had no idea how extreme this guy was or they went with him anyhow. Obama’s not going to pick the left equivalent of Bork, hell he probably won’t given the Senate’s construction even pick an equivalent of Kagan or Sotoaymor but someone more close to Kennedy. But as I’ve said in the past regarding this, I feel strongly that this President understood the way the Constitution and law better than Ronald Reagan ever did.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:45:21am

re: #488 SoundGuy 2016

Liberals bad, conservatives good. Go team.

I can’t wait to beat Conservative U on Homecoming on November 1st. after party at my place!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:46:47am

re: #486 Belafon

Take DF’s statements to their logical conclusion,and he’d shut it all down to keep liberals out, functioning government be damned.

Well, yeah. Look, his party is the party of voter suppression, gutting the Voting Rights Act, gerrymandering so severely that with 49% of the vote they got 54% of the House seats, and of course, repealing the 17th Amendment. They’re the party considering ways to take the Presidency despite a severe loss in the popular vote.

They don’t care about the Constitution, except as a tool to preserve the supremacy of white christian men. They don’t care about freedom, except their own. They don’t care about democracy, because it might go against them. All they care about is control.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:47:43am

re: #491 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, yeah. Look his party is the party of voter suppression, gutting the Voting Rights Act, gerrymandering so severely that with 49% of the vote they got 54% of the House seats, and of course, repealing the 17th Amendment. They’re the party considering ways to take the Presidency despite a severe loss in the popular vote.

They don’t care about the Constitution, except as a tool to preserve the supremacy of white christian men. They don’t care about freedom, except their own. They don’t care about democracy, because it might go against them. All they care about is control.

They’re neo-feudal bastards and the more I see from them proves it.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:48:06am

re: #489 HappyWarrior

Well it figures that individual rights would be a foreign concept to an asshole like Bork. Really as I said, Reagan either was a complete idiot and had no idea how extreme this guy was or they went with him anyhow. Obama’s not going to pick the left equivalent of Bork, hell he probably won’t given the Senate’s construction even pick an equivalent of Kagan or Sotoaymor but someone more close to Kennedy. But as I’ve said in the past regarding this, I feel strongly that this President understood the way the Constitution and law better than Ronald Reagan ever did.

You know, it’s interesting, I’ve read a lot of Reagan biographies (I’ve always found him fascinating as a historical figure) and I can’t recall any of them really discussing the Bork nomination. My guess is that Reagan either didn’t know the details of Bork’s peculiar jurisprudence and was relying on movement conservative types in the DOJ, or alternatively he did know and overplayed his hand thinking that his late term popularity would cause the Senate to backdown. But it is a topic that I think would be an interesting read.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:49:02am

Interesting encounter in an Alabama Walmart parking lot today. We pulled in beside a sedan with a Bernie sticker. That required conversation with the bearded old guy in socks and sandals. It was really very pleasant, turned out we knew some Dems in common.

HOWEVER, when I tried to recruit him for cross-border GOTV trips, any time from now until November, he expected to be ‘busy’.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:49:12am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

It’s not that he’s black, its that he nominates left-liberals whose views on the Constitution I find severely flawed.

Thanks for the answer to my #257 Dark.

I happen to find the current courts decisions severely flawed too. That’s why I want the president I voted for to do his job and create as much political pressure on the Senators you voted for to block him. Maybe in the politics of it all we get a court that stands for freedom instead of control.

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:49:34am

re: #490 HappyWarrior

I can’t wait to beat Conservative U on Homecoming on November 1st. after party at my place!

The election is on November 8th. It’s the 1st Tuesday of November, unless the 1st Tuesday is also the 1st of the month, in which case Election day is the 2nd Tuesday. Thanksgiving will be a bit earlier this year than last year, being on November 24th.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:49:35am

re: #489 HappyWarrior

re: #493 KGxvi

Also, I should add that I’m not sure there’s a left equivalent to Bork, at least not on the federal bench and not that is taken particularly seriously in the legal community.

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:50:09am

re: #491 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, yeah. Look, his party is the party of voter suppression, gutting the Voting Rights Act, gerrymandering so severely that with 49% of the vote they got 54% of the House seats, and of course, repealing the 17th Amendment. They’re the party considering ways to take the Presidency despite a severe loss in the popular vote.

They don’t care about the Constitution, except as a tool to preserve the supremacy of white christian men. They don’t care about freedom, except their own. They don’t care about democracy, because it might go against them. All they care about is control.

Scalia didn’t die at a Quaker barn raising. Or at a Unitarian sewing bee.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:50:23am

re: #493 KGxvi

You know, it’s interesting, I’ve read a lot of Reagan biographies (I’ve always found him fascinating as a historical figure) and I can’t recall any of them really discussing the Bork nomination. My guess is that Reagan either didn’t know the details of Bork’s peculiar jurisprudence and was relying on movement conservative types in the DOJ, or alternatively he did know and overplayed his hand thinking that his late term popularity would cause the Senate to backdown. But it is a topic that I think would be an interesting read.

I haven’t read much on Reagan I concede. It’s a good question honestly. Was Meese AG by then? In any case, it was a mistake.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:51:05am

re: #496 Dark_Falcon

The election is on November 8th. It’s the 1st Tuesday of November, unless the 1st Tuesday is also the 1st of the month, in which case Election day is the 2nd Tuesday. Thanksgiving will be a bit earlier this year than last year, being on November 24th.

Ah ha. That’s right.

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EPR-radar  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:51:23am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

It is, because for Republicans to confirm an Obama nominee would be to break their promise. The party base turned out in 2014 expecting those they elected to the Senate to hold the line against Obama. For those same senators to fail to block an Obama nomination to the Supreme Court would be a betrayal and the party base would punish the senators who committed said betrayal.

Party over country. Just another day of business as usual for Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:52:12am

re: #497 KGxvi

Also, I should add that I’m not sure there’s a left equivalent to Bork, at least not on the federal bench and not that is taken particularly seriously in the legal community.

Yeah I don’t think there is one either and if there was, I don’t think Obama would appoint one with a Republican Majority in the Senate and honestly I wouldn’t want him to.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:53:12am

re: #499 HappyWarrior

I haven’t read much on Reagan I concede. It’s a good question honestly. Was Meese AG by then? In any case, it was a mistake.

Yeah, Meese was AG at that point. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he was behind it.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:54:49am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:55:59am

re: #504 jaunte

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But the Latinos love him! He’s got great relations with them! He’s going to take the Latino vote!
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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:56:05am

re: #494 Decatur Deb

Interesting encounter in an Alabama Walmart parking lot today. We pulled in beside a sedan with a Bernie sticker. That required conversation with the bearded old guy in socks and sandals. It was really very pleasant, turned out we knew some Dems in common.

HOWEVER, when I tried to recruit him for cross-border GOTV trips, any time from now until November, he expected to be ‘busy’.

Was he of German heritage?

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:56:12am

One interesting name, and I bring him up mostly because I met him a couple of times in law school, is Erwin Chemerinsky. It’d actually be kind of fun to see how Hewitt would react to that one since they are friends and Chemerinsky used to be a regular guest on his radio show.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:56:43am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:56:44am

Stalling on an Obama nominee just raises the stakes for 2016. To be successful Obama would have to select center-left. Hillary and the Senate she might flip will not have that constraint. McConnell is about to go double-or-nothing knowing he has a hand full of jokers.

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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:57:15am

re: #504 jaunte

Yes Donald, please make Trump University something that’s on everyone’s radar.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:57:20am

re: #503 KGxvi

Yeah, Meese was AG at that point. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he was behind it.

Thought so. Could be a little bit of both honestly in that case. I’d just be shocked if Reagan was completely unaware of how controversial Bork was.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:58:27am

re: #506 wrenchwench

Was he of German heritage?

Honestly, it’s a shame that socks and sandals are so looked down on. There should be something between ‘shoes-and-socks’ and ‘sandals-with-no-socks’ that isn’t ‘shoes-with-no-socks’, because that’s just icky.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:58:36am

re: #506 wrenchwench

Was he of German heritage?

Looked like a Mad Magazine image of an aged hippie. (Not just sandals, toe-splitting flip-flops.)

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2016 • 10:59:51am

re: #512 Blind Frog Belly White

Honestly, it’s a shame that socks and sandals are so looked down on. There should be something between ‘shoes-and-socks’ and ‘sandals-with-no-socks’ that isn’t ‘shoes-with-no-socks’, because that’s just icky.

Isn’t the in between Uggs?

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 27, 2016 • 11:01:01am

re: #475 Charles Johnson

Uh - Robert Bork was an extremist far right theocrat with bizarre views on the First Amendment and lots of other issues. Pretending his nomination was rejected just because Ted Kennedy didn’t like him is absurd.

This country dodged a bullet when he wasn’t approved for the Supreme Court. It would have been a nightmare.

And the Saturday night massacre. Don’t forget the Saturday night massacre. (Kids, you can Google it. Just know it involves Nixon, so…..)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 11:01:59am

re: #514 KGxvi

Isn’t the in between Uggs?

Crocs. Eeeewwww…..

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2016 • 11:02:01am

re: #514 KGxvi

Isn’t the in between Uggs?

Crocs.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2016 • 11:02:42am

re: #515 Ace-o-aces

And the Saturday night massacre. Don’t forget the Saturday night massacre. (Kids, you can Google it. Just know it involves Nixon, so…..)

That was when we all started shouting, “Impeach that Cox Sacker!”

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EPR-radar  Feb 27, 2016 • 11:07:10am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

The Bork hearings were a classic hatchet job. By making said hearing such, Teddy Kennedy and the Dems accelerated the current trend of high-stakes SCOTUS nominations. The actions of 2016 Republicans is just the logical end point of such a trend: We can’t afford to lose the high court and allowing Obama to replace Scalia would almost certainly be to lose it.

This is adorable. It has been a while since I’ve seen the wingnut camp fire tales about the Bork hearings in the wild. Some points to consider:

1) Bork got hearings in the judiciary committee, and he even got the full up or down vote on the Senate floor. So what Republicans are doing now isn’t tit-for-tat for the ‘Borking’ of Bork.

2) Bork was rejected by the judiciary committee and by the full Senate because he was a total nut job, and had been unwise enough to thoroughly document this.

3) The Republicans are cravenly refusing to even have hearings for an Obama nominee because they rightly fear that Obama will not nominate a kook like Bork.

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 27, 2016 • 11:16:20am

re: #519 EPR-radar

So they’re letting everybody know they’re PreBorking any SCOTUS candidate.

Proceed.


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