Prince Dead at 57
Very sad news, as 2016 continues to be a very bad year for musicians. There aren’t many details yet, but today Prince has died at the age of 57. Too soon.
Very sad news, as 2016 continues to be a very bad year for musicians. There aren’t many details yet, but today Prince has died at the age of 57. Too soon.
MTV is actually playing Prince music videos and concert footage right now.
Sad what it took for that to happen.
This fucking year… pic.twitter.com/Uu6YIYdNR3
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 21, 2016
You know you are a musical icon when you knock Donald Trump straight the fuck off @MSNBC
— John Cole (@Johngcole) April 21, 2016
re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth
Are we going to get a new MTV channel for 2016: MTV Post Mortem?
Never much of a fan, but I always thought he was a great talent and a dynamic and innovative performer. He will be greatly missed.
Prince fans describe the legend’s final performance https://t.co/rgzfMLhnz3 #RIPPrince pic.twitter.com/d5e0qxMMI0
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) April 21, 2016
This one
#Prince Erotic City - https://t.co/5a7V0OyhGw via @DailymotionUK
— GR (@gazzforjazz) April 21, 2016
“One of the highlights of my career was photographing Prince. My favorite musician of all time. His brilliance is unequated. And even more impressive, each frame was flawless. A true artist and the most remarkable person I’ve worked with.” —photographer and director Daniela Federici (@danielafederici) #ripprince
Photo of @prince by @danielafederici
Prince’s death is pretty much the lead story in the Anglosphere media, even in the UK where it’s the Queen’s 90th birthday.
I would never call myself a huge Prince fan, though there were a couple of songs he did that I genuinely liked. His talent was tremendous and I respected that.
RIP. And thanks for the music.
Damn. Hell of a talented man and way too young.
It’s the middle of my night Maybe if I go back to bed I’ll wake up later and find this was a bad dream…
Holy shit is it George R.R Martin who wrote 2016 ?
— mortendk (@mortendk) April 21, 2016
Even after his death, Prince helped remind the world that Wolf Blitzer is a moron.
— Ernest Poppins (@Mean_Pete) April 21, 2016
#WolfBlitzerPrinceSongs is a thing
re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth
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@mortendk I hope not or the story for 2017 will be “America under the dominion of House Trump”.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) April 21, 2016
re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth
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#WolfBlitzerPrinceSongs is a thing
Meh. To me that’s the sort of gaffe I expect from a teleprompter jockey.
💜 #RIPPrince pic.twitter.com/3bhhLJ5Ect
— Robin Lord Taylor (@robinlordtaylor) April 21, 2016
Even after his death, Prince helped remind the world that Wolf Blitzer is a moron.
— Ernest Poppins (@Mean_Pete) April 21, 2016
Amazon is offering a Harriet Tubman biography on Kindle for 99 cents. I just ordered it.
Prince was an entertainer of unrivaled ability. A musical genius and I always got the impression he was beyond this world, living in another of his own choosing. He was once asked how many instruments he could play. After some thought, he answered, “A thousand”. I have no reason to doubt that.
That Coyote Blitzer guy is a dufus
— VWAimlessly (@VWAimlessly) April 21, 2016
re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I really enjoyed the commentary with this. Apparently, Prince threw out his prepared set list and just went with the rain.
He put on a great show, though I was too worried and annoyed to enjoy it. That was the Superbowl the Chicago Bears (who have always cultivated a reputation as an ‘all weather team’) lost to Payton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts (who play in a dome). Prince went with the rain, God love him for it, but I still wish Rex Grossman had been able to do so as well. But he was never good enough to do so.
re: #26 Dr. Matt
Oh FFS:
Fox News asks Stacey Dash to eulogize Prince: ‘You didn’t look at him as a black artist’
She’s just being the movie she is best know for starring in: Clueless.
Jim Hoft wastes no time being a stupid right wing ass.
Breaking: Singer Prince Dead at 57 —- Thought to be a Republican
re: #28 Charles Johnson
Jim Hoft wastes no time being a stupid right wing ass.
Breaking: Singer Prince Dead at 57 —- Thought to be a Republican
Oh, fuck you, Hoft.
And the children at Breitbart are as klassy as ever regarding Prince’s death. Just a few high low-lights.
-ξΣζθπφ just died? Well who gives a f#@%?
-GOD HAS COLLECTED SOME MORE TRASH AND SENT HIM TO HELL!
-Prince did more to unite races than
OBAMAMMA COULD DO IN A LIFETIME!-So now he’s “The Corpse Formerly Known as Prince.”
-Fox News has had Prince coverage for 2 straight hours. Not one minute of anything else. Does anyone else find this coverage of a semi trans offensive?
-He was a Baltimore riot supporting BLM agitator.
-Homosexuality is a mortal sin.
-The Artist Formerly Known as Alive.
-If obama lowers flags, attends funeral etc.. should remove all doubt he is just a racist POS
re: #28 Charles Johnson
Jim Hoft wastes no time being a stupid right wing ass.
Breaking: Singer Prince Dead at 57 —- Thought to be a Republican
All dead black people become retro Republicans.
//
re: #31 b.d.
All dead black people become retro Republicans.
//
Well duh, that’s the only way they can increase their appeal to minorities.
re: #33 withak
WTF is a “semi trans”? Is that someone who self-identifies as a long-haul truck?
It means you can partially see through them.
re: #34 Belafon
It means you can partially see through them.
I feel like that describes the writer more than the topic.
re: #33 withak
WTF is a “semi trans”? Is that someone who self-identifies as a long-haul truck?
If you self-identified as a truck, wouldn’t you be “trans semi”?
re: #38 Belafon
If you self-identified as a truck, wouldn’t you be “trans semi”?
No, I would be an Autobot.
re: #38 Belafon
If you self-identified as a truck, wouldn’t you be “trans semi”?
I’d rather call it Semi Prime.
A friend brought up a good question…
Prince was a Jehovah’s Witness. I know that they’re anti-transfusion and anti-transplant. What their stance on vaccinations?
I’d hate to think he’s gone for want of a damn flu shot.
Sorry to hear of Prince’s passing. He seemed to have a good heart along with amazing talent. He will be greatly missed.
re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m almost afraid to ask what Wolf Blitzer said about Prince’s passing to deserve a mocking hashtag.
re: #42 makeitstop
In 1952, they lifted the ban on vaccinations saying it was a matter of the individual to decide.
re: #31 b.d.
All dead black people become retro Republicans.
//
It’s a new iteration of the Mormon practice of baptising your dead relatives. Instead, of being admitted to the presence of Joseph Smith, famous dead African Americans get to be baptised as Republicans and spend eternity with Ronald Reagan.
Whatever you do, don’t read the comments at Breitbart “News” about Prince. Just don’t. I feel sorry for those people.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 21, 2016
re: #45 Kragar
In 1952, they lifted the ban on vaccinations saying it was a matter of the individual to decide.
Thanks. I honestly didn’t know.
re: #46 Aunty Entity Dragon
It’s a new iteration of the Mormon practice of baptising your dead relatives. Instead, of being admitted to the presence of Joseph Smith, famous dead African Americans get to be baptised as Republicans and spend eternity with Ronald Reagan.
I was trying to think of a good way to make that thought into a comment.
re: #28 Charles Johnson
Jim Hoft wastes no time being a stupid right wing ass.
Breaking: Singer Prince Dead at 57 —- Thought to be a Republican
Dim Jim must not read the comments section at Breitbart.
re: #43 Patricia Kayden
I’m almost afraid to ask what Wolf Blitzer said about Prince’s passing to deserve a mocking hashtag.
It probably started with the usual comment he makes to start the mockery flowing, i.e. “Hello, I’m Wolf Blitzer”
re: #30 Dr. Matt
-Fox News has had Prince coverage for 2 straight hours. Not one minute of anything else. Does anyone else find this coverage of a semi trans offensive?
This Troubled Heart has two hours to spare to watch Fox News during the day….
re: #43 Patricia Kayden
re: #52 Jay C
I can’t go to twitter at work, so here’s a link to the comment in the previous thread that contains a tweet that will answer your question: littlegreenfootballs.com.
re: #42 makeitstop
My aunt was a JW and so were some of my coworkers, so I hope that when some on the right begin saying he was a republican, they know what they’re talking about because JW’s don’t vote.
re: #28 Charles Johnson
Jim Hoft wastes no time being a stupid right wing ass.
Breaking: Singer Prince Dead at 57 —- Thought to be a Republican
What the fuck is wrong with him? Does everything have to be some stupid partisan shit?
I’m not sure how to embed from this site, but it’s a must-hear.
re: #51 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
Dim Jim must not read the comments section at Breitbart.
Obviously the people posting the racist comments are Democratic, Obama supporters. Jim Hoft is fucking pathetic. Everything’s partisan with him. Fuck him.
re: #57 HappyWarrior
YES, because outside of skewing the scoreboard, they got nothing… doubt his music spoke to them or that they could even appreciate his talent. It’s lowest common denominator, all the time with guys like Hoft.
re: #57 HappyWarrior
“What the fuck is wrong with him? Does everything have to be some stupid partisan shit?”
The simple answer is, “Yes.” He makes money by giving racists, bigots, Islamophobes, and homophobes a safe play to share their hatred.
re: #28 Charles Johnson
Jim Hoft wastes no time being a stupid right wing ass.
Breaking: Singer Prince Dead at 57 —- Thought to be a Republican
Google, how the fuck does that work (third hit for “prince politics”):
Pop star Prince made room for another color next to his signature purple in his Baltimore “Rally4Peace” concert Sunday — and next to his music for dash of political gestures.
“Wear something gray,” his promotional materials asked of patrons — in remembrance of Freddie Gray, who died from severe spinal injuries after his arrest last month. On the concert poster, an illustration showed Prince wearing it, too.
After protests over Gray’s death gave way to riots in the city, the singer-songwriter recorded a song called “Baltimore,” dedicated to residents and to Gray, in which he calls for justice and peace.
“The system is broken,” he shouted to the crowd at the Royal Farms Area. “It’s up to you young folks to fix it.”
Edited: Now with a link
cnn.com
re: #60 piratedan
YES, because outside of skewing the scoreboard, they got nothing… doubt his music spoke to them or that they could even appreciate his talent. It’s lowest common denominator, all the time with guys like Hoft.
Heh rhetorical but true.
re: #62 Timothy Watson
Google, how the fuck does that work (third hit for “prince politics”):
Uh oh now Jim Hoft is going to dig through Prince’s entire life looking for bad deeds because of this. Really, I hope Jim knows that the way he acts when other people go is going to play a part in how he himself is remembered when he inevitably dies.
Anyhow, I really haven’t listened to Prince’s music too much over the years but he was big and 57 is way too young for anyone.
Prince: He’s a Republican who is a SJW that supported the Baltimore riots….this could only possibly make sense to the fringe right.
re: #66 Dr. Matt
Prince: He’s a Republican who is a SJW that supported the Baltimore riots….this could only possibly make sense to the fringe right.
Every Republican who refuses to bash Prince as an Obstreperous Negro is a cuckservative!
/alt-right logic.
Honestly 2016, fuck you and the hearse you rode in on.
— Moose Allain (@MooseAllain) April 21, 2016
You just need to mention an African-American on Breitbart and the racist freakshow over there explodes. Nice job Andrew, you’ve created Stormfront for right wingers who think they’re not white supremacists since they belong to a party that supported the abolition of slavery before they were born.
re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth
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It’s been a bad year and we’re not even in May yet. I mean I know people are going to die but this year has been tough so far.
re: #56 majii
My aunt was a JW and so were some of my coworkers, so I hope that when some on the right began saying he was a republican, they know what they’re talking about because JW’s don’t vote.
That’s an excellent point. JWs aren’t into politics so to call Prince a Republican (or a Democrat) is just silliness. I guess Hoft cannot care about someone’s passing unless they’re a bona fide Republican, which is a sad way to think.
I suspect we’re going to be hating the years a lot from now on. Boomers were the first really well documented generation. Television made a lot of people stars. Because music shifted from being just about the song to also being about the artist, we know the names of a lot more people than we did before. So, we’re going to be hearing a lot. And we’re reaching the early part of the age curve for boomers.
Lemmy, Glenn Fry, Bowie, George Martin, Keith Emerson, and Prince. What a shitty 4 months.
re: #73 Belafon
I suspect we’re going to be hating the years a lot from now on. Boomers were the first really well documented generation. Television made a lot of people stars. Because music shifted from being just about the song to also being about the artist, we know the names of a lot more people than we did before. So, we’re going to be hearing a lot. And we’re reaching the early part of the age curve for boomers.
A big part of my job is writing obituaries.
I’ve been hating years for quite some time now because more and more often I’m writing obituaries for friends and acquaintances.
This week, I wrote two (both people with whom I had worked) that fall into that category.
It sucks…
True story. A group of five or six black journalists were invited for a talk with Prince at Paisley Park. Rules: no pen, pad or cell phone
— Trymaine Lee (@trymainelee) April 21, 2016
About a dozen more tweets on that on his timeline. Took place last year.
re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth
A big part of my job is writing obituaries.
I’ve been hating years for quite some time now because more and more often I’m writing obituaries for friends and acquaintances.
This week, I wrote two (both people with whom I had worked) that fall into that category.It sucks…
My condolences. :(
I’m still at the age where if my friends pass away, it’s a lot more unexpected.
re: #72 Patricia Kayden
That’s an excellent point. JWs aren’t into politics so to call Prince a Republican (or a Democrat) is just silliness. I guess Hoft cannot care about someone’s passing unless they’re a bona fide Republican, which is a sad way to think.
That’s the only way Hoft thinks. He thinks not about people but in ideology. He’s a disgusting, petty man.
I hate that the first thing I thought of was the Dave Chappelle skit of Prince playing basketball.
re: #79 Barefoot Grin
I hate that the first thing I thought of was the Dave Chappelle skit of Prince playing basketball.
“Game. Blouses.”
re: #56 majii
My aunt was a JW and so were some of my coworkers, so I hope that when some on the right began saying he was a republican, they know what they’re talking about because JW’s don’t vote.
RWNJs knowing what they are talking about???
Does Not Compute.
You know, there are times to not say anything if you see almost all of the rest of the world is in grieving over a public figure.
Is that so hard? Well, yes if you have a stone cold heart which some on the right are quick to display.
re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth
A big part of my job is writing obituaries.
I’ve been hating years for quite some time now because more and more often I’m writing obituaries for friends and acquaintances.
This week, I wrote two (both people with whom I had worked) that fall into that category.It sucks…
I’m sorry BWS. My Dad’s gone through the same thing- hearing about old friends and acquaintances passing away. I am young but I still remember how my heart ached when I found out that one of my old friends died. I don’t think it gets any easier as you get older. Maybe we cry less but the heartbreak, the heartbreak stays.
re: #79 Barefoot Grin
I hate that the first thing I thought of was the Dave Chapelle skit of Prince playing basketball.
Not a bad thing to remember.
Prince liked one of Chapelle’s skits so much, he used it on a cover.
Roddy Doyle. This brought a tear to my eye:
-See Prince died.
-It makes no fuckin’ sense - at all. Is it definitely true?
-Yep.
-Me an’ the missis -
-Don’t tell me you met your missis when Prince was playin’. Yeh do that every -
-I wasn’t goin’ to - fuck off.
-Wha’ then?
-Fuck off.
-No - go on.
-Well - when our oldest was born an’ we were bringin’ her home from the Rotunda. We hadn’t a fuckin’ clue. I mean, it was brilliant, havin’ the baby. But we were fuckin’ terrified - I was, anyway. We didn’t even have a car seat. Or a fuckin’ car, for tha’ matter. We were in the van, the missis had her on her lap. Fuckin’ madness.
-Tha’ was normal back then, but. When was it?
-1983. January. There was ice on the roads an’ all. We were nearly afraid to talk, yeh know. An’ I stuck on the radio.
-An’ it’s Prince.
-1999. Fuckin’ perfect. We knew we’d be grand. It’s a brilliant piece o’ music, tha’. It became her song. We’d named her already but we started callin’ her Princess an’ - well - .
-Are yeh alright?
-No - no, I’m not. I’ll be grand in a minute. It’s just shite, though, isn’t it?
-Yeah.
re: #82 ObserverArt
RWNJs knowing what they are talking about???
Does Not Compute.
You know, there are times to not say anything if you see almost all of the rest of the world is in grieving over a public figure.
Is that so hard? Well, yes if you have a stone cold heart which some on the right are quick to display.
You can have a heart of stone and still maintain a respectful silence. These spewers don’t have hearts of stone; They have hearts rotted by hate and gall bladders filled with racist bile.
re: #76 wrenchwench
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About a dozen more tweets on that on his timeline. Took place last year.
Wow. I couldn’t imagine…
re: #86 Barefoot Grin
Roddy Doyle. This brought a tear to my eye:
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-See Prince died.
-It makes no fuckin’ sense - at all. Is it definitely true?
-Yep.
-Me an’ the missis -
-Don’t tell me you met your missis when Prince was playin’. Yeh do that every -
-I wasn’t goin’ to - fuck off.
-Wha’ then?
-Fuck off.
-No - go on.
-Well - when our oldest was born an’ we were bringin’ her home from the Rotunda. We hadn’t a fuckin’ clue. I mean, it was brilliant, havin’ the baby. But we were fuckin’ terrified - I was, anyway. We didn’t even have a car seat. Or a fuckin’ car, for tha’ matter. We were in the van, the missis had her on her lap. Fuckin’ madness.
-Tha’ was normal back then, but. When was it?
-1983. January. There was ice on the roads an’ all. We were nearly afraid to talk, yeh know. An’ I stuck on the radio.
-An’ it’s Prince.
-1999. Fuckin’ perfect. We knew we’d be grand. It’s a brilliant piece o’ music, tha’. It became her song. We’d named her already but we started callin’ her Princess an’ - well - .
-Are yeh alright?
-No - no, I’m not. I’ll be grand in a minute. It’s just shite, though, isn’t it?
-Yeah.
Very touching.
re: #79 Barefoot Grin
Perhaps if you purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka…
re: #84 Dr. Matt
Adam Silver Says NBA Will Move All-Star Game If North Carolina Doesn’t Change Anti-LGBT Laws
He won’t set a deadline, but someone could probably figure out what the deadline is for lining up a different location.
re: #79 Barefoot Grin
I hate that the first thing I thought of was the Dave Chappelle skit of Prince playing basketball.
That was the bomb!! Rick James and Eddie Murphy’s brother were also in that skit. Absolutely hilarious.
re: #90 Kragar
Perhaps if you purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka…
When I visited a friend in Minneapolis in summer of ‘87 I made him take me to First Avenue. I think I thought I’d see Prince—or at least Morris Day—hanging out.
re: #71 HappyWarrior
It’s been a bad year and we’re not even in May yet. I mean I know people are going to die but this year has been tough so far.
The tweets exclaiming that George RR Martin wrote the “plot” for this year seem to be pretty bang on.
President Obama, on Prince pic.twitter.com/juxQWk4KDe
— Wesley Lowery (@WesleyLowery) April 21, 2016
MTV music video just now: Money Don’t Matter 2 Night
whew…
so good.
re: #91 Big Beautiful Door
He won’t set a deadline, but someone could probably figure out what the deadline is for lining up a different location.
I’m sure there are numerous cities right now putting together tentative contingency packages this very moment.
re: #93 Barefoot Grin
One of my buddies in the Corps was from New Jersey. I made him take me to Quick Stop and the Dirt Mall.
re: #97 Dr. Matt
McCrory has to be anguished after hearing about this. He has blamed everyone else for this law backfiring and costing NC millions in lost revenue, but he refuses to acknowledge that he called the special session and signed the bill into law.
re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth
Not a bad thing to remember.
Prince liked one of Chapelle’s skits so much, he used it on a cover.
And Charlie Murphy telling the story was funny as hell.
re: #95 Jenner7
I still haven’t gotten over the loss of Elvis, Michael Jackson, David Bowie, and so many others, and now this. I knew Prince had been sick, but I never suspected he was so sick that he’d pass away.
re: #99 majii
McCrory has to be anguished after hearing about this. He has blamed everyone else for this law backfiring and costing NC millions in lost revenue, but he refuses to acknowledge that he called the special session and signed the bill into law.
Party of personal responsibility and all that.
Prince, with the Muppets, doing Starfish & Coffee. One of the most joyous things you’ll see today. https://t.co/qX2HinyGp1
— Paul Duane (@MrPaulDuane) April 21, 2016
thinking we could need this right now:
THE KISS…Cute and smart Kitten…!! 😃 pic.twitter.com/M4qgmIEC4Q
— Stefano Savino Magi (@Stefanodoc1972) April 19, 2016
re: #101 majii
I still haven’t gotten over the loss of Elvis, Michael Jackson, David Bowie, and so many others, and now this. I knew Prince had been sick, but I never suspected he was so sick that he’d pass away.
The flu isn’t always just a “little bug” someone can get over easily.
re: #81 Dr Lizardo
Here’s Prince’s full 2007 half-time show. Fucking amazing.
He will be missed.
No one will ever touch that halftime show.
Full on live, in the rain, with a marching band backing him up.
Best ever.
re: #98 Kragar
One of my buddies in the Corps was from New Jersey. I made him take me to Quick Stop and the Dirt Mall.
Not WaWa?
I’m only a year younger the Prince. D_L just a little younger than I. One of our most memorable dates was out to see Purple Rain. Date went well we got married two years later. Thanks Prince. And Vanity. And even Clarence Williams. That was a heck of a date movie. Drama, wnderful musical and acting performances. Colorful, bright, flat out brilliant music movie film making
re: #108 Great White Snark
I’m only a year younger the Prince. D_L just a little younger. One of our most memorable dates was out to see Purple Rain. Date went well we got married two years later. Thanks Prince. And Vanity. And even Clarence Williams. That was a heck of a date movie. Drama, wnderful musical and acting performances. Colorful, bright, flat brilliant music movie film making
And Vanity had died a couple of months ago too, though her death was from complications of a hard, fast life.
This year already sucks…I want my money back.
re: #79 Barefoot Grin
I hate that the first thing I thought of was the Dave Chappelle skit of Prince playing basketball.
Not for nothin’, but Prince was a hell of a point guard and a dead-eye shot. A friend saw two nights on one tour where he had a hoop on stage, and he’d come out and talk to the crowd while wandering around the stage shooting hoops.
My friend said over two nights, maybe 40 shots, he hit from everywhere. Some folks are just gifted as hell.
re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth
The flu isn’t always just a “little bug” someone can get over easily.
True that.
Mother Jones has won the day. https://t.co/2FUcFonqYp pic.twitter.com/1VxkCBhij2
— Margarita Noriega (@margarita) April 21, 2016
I have been trying to figure out a worse way to mark the passing of Price than listening to Don Lemon talk about him (which was part of CNN’s “coverage”), and I think I have it:
Debbie Schussel telling us where Prince stood on “jihad” based on whether or not he ever played in Israel (as she did upon the passing of David Bowie).
re: #30 Dr. Matt
And the children at Breitbart are as klassy as ever regarding Prince’s death. Just a few
highlow-lights.
They don’t know that their god is imaginary, or that they’re the bad guys. It’s too bad that they’ll never realize that their toxic views, that they claim are supported by their superstitions, are the problem. Far too many Conservatives are now completely delusional, and refuse to accept that reality does not conform to right-wing fairy tales.
Everybody grieves in their own way pic.twitter.com/AoaokniQSF
— Nathan McDermott (@natemcdermott) April 21, 2016
Let the conspiracies start? It’s Drudge, so yes. They are going there.
Vernon Reid’s Twitter TL is making me cry.
I was working a soul crushing job. Little Red Corvette came on the little radio they let me have. I can NOT describe the Ray Of Hope it lit!
re: #115 lawhawk
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Let the conspiracies start? It’s Drudge, so yes. They are going there.
Will someone try to create a theory that also involves the death of Chyna? Its the internet, so probably!
re: #115 lawhawk
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Let the conspiracies start? It’s Drudge, so yes. They are going there.
What killed Prince?
Obamacare, obviously.
re: #117 Big Beautiful Door
Will someone try to create a theory that also involves the death of Chyna? Its the internet, so probably!
It will definitely include the death of Vanity…
re: #106 makeitstop
No one will ever touch that halftime show.
Full on live, in the rain, with a marching band backing him up.
Best ever.
I have to agree. The all-time best.
re: #114 No Country For Old Haters
They don’t know that their god is imaginary,
Remember that the deceased in this case was a Christian. I’d ask you to leave off atheism just for today and during his memorial and/or funeral.
“Now cracks a noble heart. Good-night, sweet Prince;
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.”
― William Shakespeare
re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth
And god said, He wants to put the band back together. I want all the best talent.
The Angel of Death looked askance.
All of them?!
Do I stutter?
Seriously dude, ALL OF THEM?
*glaring look from god*
People are really going to hate me. Let me blame it on George RR Martin.
Keith Emerson, Prince. David Bowie. Merle Haggard. Vanity. Maurice White. Paul Kantner. Glenn Frey. Lemmy.
—-
This has been one hell of a year so far with all the lost musical talent. Damn. Just damn….
re: #120 Dr Lizardo
I have to agree. The all-time best.
I’ll always prefer U2’s show in 2002, but I admit a large part of it is that the Chicago Bears lost the Superbowl Prince played at and that fact will forever color my feeling about the event as a whole.
This is not a shot at Prince nor am i saying how others should feel. It’s just a bit of Disgruntled Bears Fan coming to the surface. It’s a Chicago thing.
re: #121 Dark_Falcon
Remember that the deceased in this case was a Christian. I’d ask you to leave off atheism just for today and during his memorial and/or funeral.
He’s not talking about Prince.
Would you ask someone to lay off the Christianity one day?
From @loueyville: Prince made secret donation to support Louisville’s historic Western Branch Library in 2001 — https://t.co/fapfIClBFg
— Joe Sonka (@joesonka) April 21, 2016
As if we needed another reason to mourn the death of music legend Prince, it turns out he helped preserve a little bit of Louisville history.
Louisville Free Public Library confirmed to Insider that the musician donated $12,000 to LFPL to help save Western Branch Library when that library was threatened with closure in 2001. He asked that the award be kept silent.
LFPL spokesman Paul Burns said the funds were “designated for community building efforts at Western.”
CEO of Main Events Sports Radio and activist Haven Harrington III posted the following message on his Facebook page shortly after the death of Prince was announced on Thursday afternoon:
A little known Prince factoid. When Prince read that Louisville was going close the Western Branch Library ( which is the first full service library for African Americans in country) he wrote a $10,000 check to the Western Branch Library Association to support the library.
Louisville Western Branch Library opened in 1905 as the first library in the nation to provide services exclusively for the African-American community, utilizing only African-American staff.
Note: the check was actually for $12,000. Also, Louisville Western Branch Library is a Carnegie library.
A bit of trivia, and a fact I wasn’t aware of. The album Purple Rain was added to the Library of Congress’s National Recording Registry in 2012, having been deemed “culturally, historically, or aesthetically important”.
re: #125 wrenchwench
He’s not talking about Prince.
Would you ask someone to lay off the Christianity one day?
Yes, if the deceased was a Muslim or Buddhist, or Hindu, etc.
re: #106 makeitstop
No one will ever touch that halftime show.
Full on live, in the rain, with a marching band backing him up.
Best ever.
FAMU
re: #108 Great White Snark
I’m only a year younger the Prince. D_L just a little younger than I. One of our most memorable dates was out to see Purple Rain. Date went well we got married two years later. Thanks Prince. And Vanity. And even Clarence Williams. That was a heck of a date movie. Drama, wnderful musical and acting performances. Colorful, bright, flat out brilliant music movie film making
I remember the sex. I almost died.
re: #128 Dark_Falcon
Yes, if the deceased was a Muslim or Buddhist, or Hindu, etc.
I’ll watch for that.
re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth
The flu isn’t always just a “little bug” someone can get over easily.
I really hate how any cold that’s worse than average (or sometimes not even that) is “The Flu” nowadays—it trivializes a really dangerous illness.
re: #131 wrenchwench
I’ll watch for that.
in the meantime, for future use:
“Well.. i’m listening to you..” :) 🌟 pic.twitter.com/y4fCnlX8Ny
— ~ Dejah ~ (@DejahTHORlS) April 20, 2016
re: #129 Stanley Sea
FAMU
So badass, yeah? They’re even in the mix, so that means he wrote them a chart.
Not just props. That day, they were Prince’s band.
I’m just going to go ahead and believe that somewhere in Minnesota, a 24 hour pancake spot just hired a 5’2” cook with a purple apron.
— Copy McPasty, Writer (@KashannKilson) April 21, 2016
what I said earlier:
Well Prince just showed us what an artist has to do to get MTV to play videos again.
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) April 21, 2016
re: #132 GlutenFreeJesus
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OK, I’ve watched 4 times. Where does his guitar go when he tosses it up?
re: #139 wrenchwench
OK, I’ve watched 4 times. Where does his guitar go when he tosses it up?
into the crowd
re: #132 GlutenFreeJesus
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Sure, the solo kicks 20 different kinds of ass. That’s a given.
What gets me every time? The guitar flip. Such a pro, always.
re: #139 wrenchwench
OK, I’ve watched 4 times. Where does his guitar go when he tosses it up?
His tech catches it behind the screen.
I saw him on Leno one night. He finishes the song, takes off the guitar, and tosses it easily 30 feet to his tech.
His tech misses. Bye bye, guitar.
(I heard he bought up every one of those Hohner Teles he could find.)
With Uncertainty at Top of Ticket, Republicans Back Off in Some States
Committee officials outlined detailed plans in written “playbooks” distributed this year in the most competitive states about how they intended to assist Republican campaigns up and down the ballot with money and manpower. By July 1, Florida was to have 256 field organizers and Ohio another 176, for example, according to a state party chairman in possession of the strategy books who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters.
But Sean Spicer, the R.N.C.’s chief strategist, acknowledged this week that the committee had begun informing state parties and statewide campaigns that fulfilling such plans would now be “slower.” He said the pledges had been made with the assumption that Republicans would have “a presumptive presidential nominee by now.”
Just as revealing, the party is also taking steps to create a separate fund-raising entity dedicated to Senate races, an acknowledgment that many of the wealthiest contributors are increasingly focused on protecting Republican control of Congress rather than a presidential campaign they fear is lost.
The I-35W Bridge in Minnesota will be lit in purple tonight in honor of Prince. https://t.co/u4gj03m9ds pic.twitter.com/PEgmORrLjE
— ABC News (@ABC) April 21, 2016
re: #144 Kragar
With Uncertainty at Top of Ticket, Republicans Back Off in Some States
I guess they can always rebrand again.
re: #144 Kragar
With Uncertainty at Top of Ticket, Republicans Back Off in Some States
Music to my ears.
re: #148 wrenchwench
“The minute Trump gets the nomination, the party is going to have to raise another three or four hundred million,” said Al Hoffman, a Florida-based Republican donor. “Trump should pay for it himself.”
Yeah, that is totally going to happen…
Yes, the UK issued a travel advisory to LGBT residents traveling to the US:https://t.co/k3G1XfawIo pic.twitter.com/q68hKCnWG6
re: #141 makeitstop
Sure, the solo kicks 20 different kinds of ass. That’s a given.
What gets me every time? The guitar flip. Such a pro, always.
He and George are getting together tonight and doing another version. Jimi and John will also drop in with Bonham on the cans and Entwhistle on bass.
It’ll be Heaven.
Sniff.
re: #113 bratwurst
Debbie Schussel telling us where Prince stood on “jihad” based on whether or not he ever played in Israel (as she did upon the passing of David Bowie).
Holy shit. If my life were that one-dimensional and pinched I’d be awfully sad.
In beginning thought Prince channeled James Brown & Sly Stone. Maybe, but in the end, Prince was … Prince. RIP #Prince
— John Lomax (@JohnLomaxWKRC12) April 21, 2016
re: #137 b_sharp
Nah, you’re good. It’s from the Concert for George from a number of years ago, available on CD and DVD. The solo makes it worthwhile alone, but the whole show is pretty touching.
re: #152 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Why Jimmy John’s sandwiches are overpriced at a buck today
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He just looks like a dickbag. No wonder why his fellow dickbag Romney spoke so highly of him.
A purple nebula, in honor of Prince, who passed away today. https://t.co/7buFWWExMw pic.twitter.com/ONQDwSQwVa
— NASA (@NASA) April 21, 2016
re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth
I gotta set my dvr. I know what I’ll be dancing to at 12:30 Saturday night!
I am not religious but I hope there’s a heaven. So much music to choose from.
re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
What better way to put the lie to the right-wing talking point that “America is an exceptional nation” than having a major ally warn its citizens that they’re not safe in certain U.S. states? SMDH.
I saw Prince at Hofheinz Pavilion in Houston in (I think) 2000. It was an interesting set as he played all his stuff, but only in segments as it was like one long song. The energy, the talent, the command he had in that place that night was absolutely intoxicating. I’ll never forget it. Fuck, he was the most talented musician of my lifetime (I’m 44).
re: #163 majii
What better way to put the lie to the right-wing talking point that “America is an exceptional nation” than having a major ally warn its citizens that they’re not safe in certain U.S. states? SMDH.
Seriously this shit’s fucking embarrassing. Republicans get over it, GLBT people exist and have the same rights you do. If that chaps your ass so much, move to Russia and you guys can cry with Putin that gay people are treated like human beings together.
re: #162 HappyWarrior
I am not religious but I hope there’s a heaven. So much music to choose from.
We must be in it. 100 CDs in my bike shop. A slice of heaven.
re: #166 wrenchwench
Hope you are doing well?
Hi Lizards!
re: #153 ObserverArt
He and George are getting together tonight and doing another version. Jimi and John will also drop in with Bonham on the cans and Entwhistle on bass.
It’ll be Heaven.
Sniff.
I’ve been going back and forth between smiling at the videos and just crying.
We’re losing so many generational talents, and in this case a bona fide mega-genius. We’ll be lucky if we ever see someone meld that kind of talent and popular appeal ever again.
re: #164 Billy Batts
I saw Prince at Hofheinz Pavilion in Houston in (I think) 2000. It was an interesting set as he played all his stuff, but only in segments as it was like one long song. The energy, the talent, the command he had in that place that night was absolutely intoxicating. I’ll never forget it. Fuck, he was the most talented musician of my lifetime (I’m 44).
I’ve had MTV on all afternoon.
So much of Prince’s stuff I’ve never heard before because I’m an old fart.
Huge range of styles.
I’m enjoying all of it.
re: #133 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
I really hate how any cold that’s worse than average (or sometimes not even that) is “The Flu” nowadays—it trivializes a really dangerous illness.
True that. Had the real flu about 10 years ago. Pretty horrible in all ways. Now when someone with a sniffle, my sympathy level isn’t high.
re: #169 wrenchwench
Wonderful. Live with out internets most of the time, on a sailboat now!
re: #167 Floral Giraffe
Hope you are doing well?
Hi Lizards!
Somebody’s gotta do it…
{{{{{{{Floral!}}}}}}}
re: #143 Dave In Austin
Whoa Shit!!!
One aspect about him many seem to not know. That dude could jam.
re: #173 Floral Giraffe
Wonderful. Live with out internets most of the time, on a sailboat now!
Glad you’re enjoying it.
OT, just got call that my new kitty had her spay surgery & is ready for me to pick her up at 3!!!
I’ll check in later.
re: #179 Stanley Sea
OT, just got call that my new kitty had her spay surgery & is ready for me to pick her up at 3!!!
I’ll check in later.
Yay you and her!
re: #168 makeitstop
I’ve been going back and forth between smiling at the videos and just crying.
We’re losing so many generational talents, and in this case a bona fide mega-genius. We’ll be lucky if we ever see someone meld that kind of talent and popular appeal ever again.
What I always admired about him was he was never to be completely defined. He could have done bluegrass, country or polka and it would have been Prince.
He was an entertainer extraordinaire.
re: #179 Stanley Sea
OT, just got call that my new kitty had her spay surgery & is ready for me to pick her up at 3!!!
I’ll check in later.
You had her spaded? You meany. (I know, I shovel the shit)
re: #179 Stanley Sea
OT, just got call that my new kitty had her spay surgery & is ready for me to pick her up at 3!!!
I’ll check in later.
Post many pics, plz!
re: #183 ObserverArt
What I always admired about him was he was never to be completely defined. He could have done bluegrass, country or polka and it would have been Prince.
He was an entertainer extraordinaire.
And it was all so damned effortless. All of it.
I was talking to my friend who mixed sound for him a few times - I was at his house when my wife texted me about the medical emergency at Paisley Park. He said that he’d get a fax telling him where a show was and what gear to bring, sometimes with almost no time to get to the venue.
One show was Prince, Larry Graham, Sly’s original drummer, and Jay Z. He actually bootlegged the entire show - and he brought the tape home and can’t remember where it is.
I’d love to hear that.
re: #7 Shiplord Kirel
I never considered myself much of a fan either until I gradually found myself with more and more of his music running through my head, and found myself absent mindedly humming or whistling songs like “Kiss” or “1999” After a while, I was a convert.
Thought NRO might have one of their awkward but polite eulogies for a “liberal icon”, but they’re still losing their shit over Tubman.
— Jake Turk (@71djt) April 21, 2016
re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth
in the meantime, for future use:
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“I’ve got some disturbing news about your garbage.”
re: #144 Kragar
With Uncertainty at Top of Ticket, Republicans Back Off in Some States
Tell the GOP ‘Go back off in your own jackyard.’
re: #190 wrenchwench
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Heh the NRO is so stupid. It will be a happy day when the office space is sold to someone who actually publishes stories worth a damn rather than faux intellectual right wing crap.
A crowd is gathering on blustery Colley Hill, Reigate for the beacon lighting to wish the Queen a happy birthday. 😊 pic.twitter.com/adKVC5ky5C
— Andrew Wright (@AndyBoxHill) April 21, 2016
If you’ve not seen a beacon lighting, you have no idea what you’ve missed.
re: #194 HappyWarrior
Heh the NRO is so stupid. It will be a happy day when the office space is sold to someone who actually publishes stories worth a damn rather than faux intellectual right wing crap.
We have a different opinion elsewhere:
@71djt Baloney! The two page 1 stories on the subject of Ms. Tubman are not negative towards her or towards putting her on the $20 bill.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) April 21, 2016
re: #194 HappyWarrior
Heh the NRO is so stupid. It will be a happy day when the office space is sold
to someone who actually publishes stories worth a damn rather than faux intellectual right wing crap.
FTFY.
re: #196 wrenchwench
We have a different opinion elsewhere:
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Had that same difference of opinion right here yesterday…
re: #121 Dark_Falcon
Remember that the deceased in this case was a Christian. I’d ask you to leave off atheism just for today and during his memorial and/or funeral.
I don’t know if No Country for old haters is an atheist or not, but if I were a Christian I’d probably say the exact same thing about the Breitbarter’s “God”. American Right Wing Conservative Evangelical Protestants loudly and proudly live the exact opposite of many if not most of the teachings of God and/or Jesus. Those who don’t do so might view their image of God as imaginary.
Sometimes I think they don’t even read the book they hold so highly… they are like the Yangs in the Star Trek episode “The Omega Glory” with the US Constitution.
re: #196 wrenchwench
We have a different opinion elsewhere:
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My shocked face. He loves that damn rag. Why? I’ll never know.
re: #190 wrenchwench
@71djt Baloney! The two page 1 stories on the subject of Ms. Tubman are not negative towards her or towards putting her on the $20 bill.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) April 21, 2016
NRO has developed a Alt-Right comment troll problem (and had to get aggressive in deleting troll comments), but those trolls are not NRO. The articles do not reflect writers “losing their shit” in any way. Mr. Turk’s tweet is wrong.
In deference to the group, I’m not going to link to the stories in question.
re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White
FTFY.
True but I don’t want NRO: The next generation starring Baby Ben Shapiro, Chuckles Johnson, and Stevie Crowder.
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
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NRO has developed a Alt-Right comment troll problem (and had to get aggressive in deleting troll comments), but those trolls are not NRO. The articles do not reflect writers “losing their shit” in any way. Mr. Turk’s tweet is wrong.
In deference to the group, I’m not going to link to the stories in question.
They’re racist. Sorry DF but they are. Deny it yourself all you want but they’re a bunch of racist hacks and they have always been that way since that racist shithead William F. Buckley published its first issue.
re: #202 HappyWarrior
True but I don’t want NRO: The next generation starring Baby Ben Shapiro, Chuckles Johnson, and Stevie Crowder.
I was thinking their office space could be sold to an obnoxious telemarketing firm selling time shares and it would STILL be an improvement.
Gee a magazine that publishes John Derbyshire and people like him gets people like him that comment on their stories? Why I’m absolutely appalled!
re: #204 Blind Frog Belly White
I was thinking their office space could be sold to an obnoxious telemarketing firm selling time shares and it would STILL be an improvement.
Ha, you got me there. That’s true.
re: #204 Blind Frog Belly White
I was thinking Miss Cleo!
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
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NRO has developed a Alt-Right comment troll problem (and had to get aggressive in deleting troll comments), but those trolls are not NRO. The articles do not reflect writers “losing their shit” in any way. Mr. Turk’s tweet is wrong.
In deference to the group, I’m not going to link to the stories in question.
Unfortunately, the one you DID link to here yesterday was.
re: #205 HappyWarrior
Gee a magazine that publishes John Derbyshire and people like him gets people like him that comment on their stories? Why I’m absolutely appalled!
I’m shocked, SHOCKED to find there’s racism in the comments there.
//for the sarcasm impaired
i don’t care how well spoken Buckley was. A racist is a racist. You think African-Americans fighting for equality in the South in the 60’s gave two shits that Buckley could articulate his English without sounding like a caricature?
re: #203 HappyWarrior
They’re racist. Sorry DF but they are. Deny it yourself all you want but they’re a bunch of racist hacks and they have always been that way since that racist shithead William F. Buckley published its first issue.
Quoted for lack of typing my own.
My ‘F-you’ was so inarticulate. (on a different topic.)
This is how NRO deals with the Tubman bill issue. “Great choice, BUT…
“…Unfortunately, though, this whole episode has been a product less of considered opinions than of ideological whims. Hamilton became a target not out of any principled opposition, but because feminists decided that it was time for our currency to boast “a woman,” and the $10 bill was next due to be redesigned, in 2019. (Incidentally, Hamilton also was saved by timing: the fortuitous opening of a hit Broadway musical about his life.) The notes and coins of our currency are not national monuments — they are periodically redesigned to reflect shifts in national values, and the American public clearly wants currency that showcases a more diverse array of Americans who have contributed to the ongoing work of winning liberty and justice for all — but decisions about who adorns our currency shouldn’t be made to accommodate momentary fancies.
……
This contretemps highlights, once again, the extent to which the histories of particular groups and interests are now so often preferred to a larger, unifying American history. The current administration may have satisfied progressive demands momentarily. But we’ll be fighting this battle again, soon enough. You can put money on it.”
re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth
Unfortunately, the one you DID link to here yesterday was.
You’re not supposed to bring that up. Dark relies heavily on using the BBL technique in combination with topics getting dropped in a new thread to never address the shit he says.
Dark, for the record, I give all your responses the same amount of consideration that you give the points other Lizards raise, as evidenced by your interactions here (the only thing I can judge you by). Make of that what you wish.
Wishing to commemorate an historic struggle is just an “ideological whim.”
re: #211 wrenchwench
Quoted for lack of typing my own.
My ‘F-you’ was so inarticulate. (on a different topic.)
I only regret that I never got to told William F. Buckley to go fuck his phony intellectual self with a rusty spoon. How’s that for inarticulate? I’m sorry but one of my biggest peeves is the revisionism of Bill Buckley- McCarthy supporter, Franco/Apartheid apologist, and Jim Crow supporter into something that is better than the modern right. The man was a raging asshole and he only denounced the Birchers not out of real princile but because he was afraid they were making the movement of bigots he was part of look bad and like CT nuts.Notice that WFB didnt’ say anything when they attacked General Marshall’s patriotism.
Jake had the grace to respond:
@Dark_Falcon7 Admittedly the editorial tone is softer than what would’ve been likely under a still-living Billy, but that’s a low, low bar.
— Jake Turk (@71djt) April 21, 2016
re: #205 HappyWarrior
Gee a magazine that publishes John Derbyshire and people like him gets people like him that comment on their stories? Why I’m absolutely appalled!
Derbyshire was fired from National Review years ago. They’ve repudiated his views and their mods have grown diligent about deleting racist comments.
I’ll also say that William F. Buckley started out as a racist, but by the late 1960’s he was no longer a racist. He changed and became a better man.
re: #212 jaunte
This is how NRO deals with the Tubman bill issue. “Great choice, BUT…
It’s typical of them. Always “faint praise” with a whine about feminists or whatever they’re whining about. Bunch of stupid blue blood bastards who can’t get over the fact that they don’t run the country anymore.
re: #214 jaunte
Wishing to commemorate an historic struggle is just an “ideological whim.”
Putting a woman on currency is just pandering to the feminists.
I’m being polite and not expressing what I think of someone who believes that is a valid description of what is happening here.
“we’ll be fighting this battle again, soon enough”
What battle? What bullshit.
re: #212 jaunte
This is how NRO deals with the Tubman bill issue. “Great choice, BUT…
This contretemps highlights, once again, the extent to which the histories of particular groups and interests are now so often preferred to a larger, unifying American history.
And by a ‘larger, unifying American history’, they mean one wherein blacks exist only in the form of Crispus Attucks, Frederick Douglass, and George Washington Carver. And women only in the form of Dolly Madison, Betsy Ross, and Florence Nightingale.
re: #204 Blind Frog Belly White
I have an even better suggestion: May it go the way of hater David Manning’s Atlah Church in NY, which I hope will be purchased as an organization to help LGBTQ Americans. In thinking that he doesn’t have to obey local ordinances in regard to property ownership, Manning will most likely be run out of business because it doesn’t look like he’ll find the funding to pay the thousands in fines he owes. He’s an odious little turd who appears to have been financing his lifestyle for years by bilking weak-minded persons who believe his BS. It’s way past time for him to go. I’m going to make sure that I find a little cash to donate to the organization that plans to purchase his “church.” The day I hear hes lost his “church” will be a plus for all Americans.
re: #218 Dark_Falcon
May I recommend you put down the shovel?
re: #218 Dark_Falcon
Derbyshire was fired from National Review years ago. They’ve repudiated his views and their mods have grown diligent about deleting racist comments.
I’ll also say that William F. Buckley started out as a racist, but by the late 1960’s he was no longer a racist. He changed and became a better man.
Hahaha okay. They haven’t repudiated shit. And as for that bastard Buckley, as recently as the 1980’s he was still supporting Apartheid and before you give me the anti-Communist excuse you always do, I’ll note that plenty of conservatives on both sides of the Atlantic saw it was awful. Why not Buckley? Because Buckley did not believe in democracy for those he deemed inferior.
re: #214 jaunte
Wishing to commemorate an historic struggle is just an “ideological whim.”
Just call us ‘whimmins’.
re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White
I think the underlying issue is the struggle to pretend slave labor didn’t build the wealth of the nation, but that it would have happened anyway, and we don’t need to somehow deal with it.
re: #213 klys (maker of Silmarils)
You’re not supposed to bring that up. Dark relies heavily on using the BBL technique in combination with topics getting dropped in a new thread to never address the shit he says.
Dark, for the record, I give all your responses them same amount of consideration that you give the points other Lizards raise, as evidenced by your interactions here (the only thing I can judge you by). Make of that what you wish.
Needz moar ‘BBL’
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re: #212 jaunte
The bits you bolded are really telling, aren’t they? Personally, I feel like Tubman’s fighting against slavery - at GREAT personal risk - IS part of a unifying history. Or are we all supposed to “unify” around the notion that “eh, slavery? No big, only a couple special interest groups really had a problem with it.”
Edited cuz I left out Tubman’s name.
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
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NRO has developed a Alt-Right comment troll problem (and had to get aggressive in deleting troll comments), but those trolls are not NRO.
If there hadn’t already been a number of white nationalists unmasked within NRO itself you would have a point.
re: #230 bratwurst
If there hadn’t already been a number of white nationalists unmasked within NRO itself you would have a point.
Exactly. It’s not as if he was the first. And it’s not as if just last year they called Deray McKeeson, a race pimp.
re: #230 bratwurst
If there hadn’t already been a number of white nationalists unmasked within NRO itself you would have a point.
And those writers got canned. Assholes employed years ago does not equal “losing their shit” today.
re: #232 HappyWarrior
Exactly. It’s not as if he was the first. And it’s not as if just last year they called Deray McKeeson, a race pimp.
I would also not be trumpeting the fact Derbyshire has been gone for years if I had been an enthusiastic NRO supporter during the time when he was actually there!
re: #234 Dark_Falcon
And those writers got canned. Assholes employed years ago does not equal “losing their shit” today.
Okay how about gender then? Let’s talk about how they are on women. They still employ Kevin Williamson who thinks we should hang women who get abortions.
re: #234 Dark_Falcon
All this really implies is that you’re fine with an organization that runs the columns of white nationalists as long as they’re not too open about it. Behind dog whistles is okay.
NRO as usual trying to rationalize the old arguments against giving equal treatment to women and non-white people. Just read the parts after the ‘but.’
re: #227 jaunte
I think the underlying issue is the struggle to pretend slave labor didn’t build the wealth of the nation, but that it would have happened anyway, and we don’t need to somehow deal with it.
The crazy thing is that if you truly have a unified (not unifying) view of history, it is all of a piece. For example, the Eurocentric view that the Americas were put there for white folks to use as we saw fit, just like all those black folks in Africa, has been slowly and painfully evolving, and understanding that it has been evolutionary is key to understanding why America is how it is now. Ignore that, and you end up with people who think everything was cool once slavery was ended and why are all those black people so angry all the time?
If you don’t know where we were, and how we got here, you can’t grasp where we are, and where we need to go.
re: #239 jaunte
NRO as usual trying to rationalize the old arguments against giving equal treatment to women and non-white people. Just read the parts after the ‘but.’
And, as usual, some people don’t see anything wrong with that.
re: #212 jaunte
But, but, but, I read today that Greta van Susteren is claiming that there was no process in replacing Jackson with Tubman, even though the issue was around in 2015. She told her viewers that Lew’s decision to do so is another example of “Obama dividing the nation again.” She didn’t bother to do any research to discover that over 350,000 Americans provided their input to the Treasury Dept. in making the decision. I get sick and tired of these liars lying. I haven’t heard the president say one word about the change, but I guess when you have ODS, you can hear someone you disparage say all kinds of things that s/he never said. Oh, I know exactly why van Susteren took the “Let’s blame Obama for this” route again because it manipulates the emotions of the mouth-breathers who watch her program. They can be easily persuaded to get their noses out of joint about nothing, but ask them to do something about our babies killing themselves and other with guns, and it’s a bridge too far for them to attempt to cross.
re: #241 klys (maker of Silmarils)
NRO: “give ‘em the old razzle-dazzle.”
re: #234 Dark_Falcon
But how did they get hired in the first place?
One slips in, OK, maybe someone didn’t really check before hiring. But after a while “Gosh, we just don’t KNOW how so many raging bigots end up here! We’re as mystified as you!”
Except I’m not mystified at all.
re: #242 majii
They target a segment of consumers of broadcast news-like performance art, and keep them satisfied by confirming their biases.
So I went to Home Depot and got six bags of mulch to start putting down in the backyard now that we’ve got the sprinkler system redone and I am putting off going to start it because they probably weigh 50 pounds each and I don’t have a wheelbarrow.
Interesting interview
Prince Talks About The Illuminati & Chemtrails
PRINCE on Tavis Smiley 2/2 Link
He out right states he doesn’t vote because he was a JW, thus debunking dim jims claim he was a republican.
Anything else you get from this is of course entirely up to you
re: #227 jaunte
Nope. If someone is involved that right-wingers don’t like, forget about them being given any credit for their accomplishments. This right here lets me know that they’re not only bigots and racists, but they also have a worldview in which one has to meet certain “standards” in order to have one’s accomplishments acknowledged. Case in point, Market Watch announced today that jobless claims decreased to a level not seen since 1973, but don’t expect anyone on the right to talk about it because it might bust their accepted meme that “Obama is destroying the nation’s economy.”
I’m sorry DF if it seems like we’re picking on you but if you can’t see the NRO has from its inception made overt or subtle racist dogwhistles to its readership then I really can’t help you here. I do not know why you feel such an allegiance to them. Buckley’s racism was something that defined the magazine when it was created and that racism still defines it now. Their writers are incapable of writing articles that don’t involve some whiny crap about civil rights activists, feminists, or anyone who NRO’s writers are threatened by. As I said, NRO are a bunch of blue blooded assholes who can’t stand that this is a more diverse country than ever and that people from diverse backgrounds can and will have positions of power. I bet Buckley shat himself when he got humiliated by the gay, African American James Baldwin.
I don’t know as much about Prince’s music as I should, but lunch table discussion at work today was dominated by the news of his passing. We all agreed that even if a person wasn’t a fan of his, they probably knew and liked at least one Prince song. That alone makes the man remarkable.
Prince also gave me a treasured “Awkward Generation Gap” moment with my father. Years ago (1995 or so) my father was working away from home, and had rented an apartment in Virginia while he worked a job in Norfolk. That summer I stayed with him for a couple of weeks while looking for work.
My father had cable TV at his place, which we did not have back home, so I was indulging in the new variety when I stumbled across VH1, and they were playing actual music videos (!) In this case, “When Doves Cry”. My father walked by during the first couple of minutes of the video, saw Prince, and said “That guy needs to put a shirt on!”
Recognizing total artistic integrity when I saw it, I replied, “But dad, it’s Prince!” As if that would explain everything. To me, it did. As soon as the words left my mouth I realized that he just wouldn’t understand… Ever.
I don’t have many Archie-vs.-Meathead conflicts with my father, so the episode stood out… And I have Prince to thank for that. :D
re: #250 HappyWarrior
I bet Buckley shat himself when he got humiliated by the gay, African American James Baldwin.
Whereas a non-bigot would just say “wow that guy is really smart and really sharp. I should hire him to write for my magazine.”
I’m glad Harriet Tubman will continue to be an irritation to racists with wallets for years to come.
re: #241 klys (maker of Silmarils)
And, as usual, some people don’t see anything wrong with that.
Because it doesn’t negatively affect them…but just wait until there is a possibility that it might…
re: #253 jaunte
I’m glad Harriet Tubman will continue to be an irritation to racists with wallets for years to come.
As one tweet said yesterday, if Ms. Tubman being on their money bothers them that badly, I’ll gladly take the bills off their hands :).
re: #240 Blind Frog Belly White
The fact is that we are not angry all of the time. This is a fallacy they use to justify playing the race card and their white privilege. I’m not angry at anyone because I educated myself and have had [and have] a good life. Blacks learned a long time ago that if we waited for the power brokers in America to do something for us, it would likely never be done, so we had to help ourselves. I think much of what they think and say about us is not based on reality but on their view of us. Now, someone like Trump can say all kinds of sh*t, but let one black person rebut anything he says, then, it’s “S/he’s being divisive!” or “S/he is a race hustler!” They can definitely dish it, but they can’t take it.
Funniest have been the people saying that only presidents should be on money. All about the Benjamins except he wasn’t president and died Washington’s first year as President heh.
re: #256 majii
The fact is that we are not angry all of the time. This is a fallacy they use to justify playing the race card and their white privilege. I’m not angry at anyone because I educated myself and have had [and have] a good life. Blacks learned a long time ago that if we waited for the power brokers in America to do something for us, it would likely never be done, so we had to help ourselves. I think much of what they think and say about us is not based on reality but on their view of us. Now, someone like Trump can say all kinds of sh*t, but let one black person rebut anything he says, then, it’s “S/he’s being divisive!” or “S/he is a race hustler!” They can definitely dish it, but they can’t take it.
Good post.
Can we also dispense with the notion that nobody is allowed to criticize a website based on the users of that site? This site is somehow able to moderate comments and jettison users who are nasty trolls and/or repeat offenders. Are you really going to say that the poor helpless NRO doesn’t have the resources to do the same?
re: #256 majii
The fact is that we are not angry all of the time. This is a fallacy they use to justify playing the race card and their white privilege. I’m not angry at anyone because I educated myself and have had [and have] a good life. Blacks learned a long time ago that if we waited for the power brokers in America to do something for us, it would likely never be done, so we had to help ourselves. I think much of what they think and say about us is not based on reality but on their view of us. Now, someone like Trump can say all kinds of sh*t, but let one black person rebut anything he says, then, it’s “S/he’s being divisive!” or “S/he is a race hustler!” They can definitely dish it, but they can’t take it.
Very much so.
re: #259 bratwurst
Can we also dispense with the notion that nobody is allowed to criticize a website based on the users of that site? This site is somehow able to moderate comments and jettison users who are nasty trolls and/or repeat offenders. Are you really going to say that NRO doesn’t have the resources to do the same?
Good point. We don’t seem to need to clean out alt-right commenters very often, but if we did, it would happen quickly and unceremoniously.
re: #259 bratwurst
Can we also dispense with the notion that nobody is allowed to criticize a website based on the users of that site? This site is somehow able to moderate comments and jettison users who are nasty trolls and/or repeat offenders. Are you really going to say that the poor helpless NRO doesn’t have the resources to do the same?
It’s also worth noting that the users of the site go there for a reason.
If conservatives are losing their shit over Harriet Tubman, I can’t wait to see their reaction when the US Navy names the CVN Barack H. Obama.
re: #263 Dr. Matt
If conservatives are losing their shit over Harriet Tubman, I can’t wait to see their reaction when the US Navy names the CVN Barack H. Obama.
I can’t wait.
this should be good:
Ben Carson confirmed that Donald Trump will give a speech on education policy in coming weeks
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) April 21, 2016
re: #263 Dr. Matt
As they predicted, “we’ll be fighting this battle again, soon enough.”
re: #267 jaunte
As they predicted, “we’ll be fighting this battle again, soon enough.”
“The US Navy is bowing to the PC Police!”
re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I’m afraid one of the Bens is mistaken. Trump will be educating himself on policy, so he can make speeches.
re: #259 bratwurst
Are you really going to say that the poor helpless NRO doesn’t have the resources to do the same?
They could do it, but they are afraid of becoming irrelevant.
re: #253 jaunte
I’m glad Harriet Tubman will continue to be an irritation to racists with wallets for years to come.
That is why I wish they would use the Turman portrait floating of her holding a Colt revolver in one hand and reaching out with the other -a slap in the face to every lost cause asshat in the nation
Well, the mulch is not going to spread itself, so I will BBL instead of just disappearing.
;)
re: #259 bratwurst
Can we also dispense with the notion that nobody is allowed to criticize a website based on the users of that site? This site is somehow able to moderate comments and jettison users who are nasty trolls and/or repeat offenders. Are you really going to say that the poor helpless NRO doesn’t have the resources to do the same?
They’ve been kicking out many of the trolls. But its worth noting that LGF hasn’t had a troll swarm in a while, whereas NRO has been suffering them repeatedly ever since National Review came out against Donald Trump. Most of the current trolls aren’t regular NRO readers, they show up after hate sites link to NRO articles are targets for troll attacks. The trolls then move in to fling poo. It’s pretty difficult to deal with, unless you are willing to set up the kind of anti-troll defenses that Charles has erected. And thus take a great deal of time and effort.
I see the problem here.
It’s an inability to tell the difference between “trolls” and the usual crowd…
re: #273 Dark_Falcon
It’s pretty difficult to deal with, unless you are willing to set up the kind of anti-troll defenses that Charles has erected. And thus take a great deal of time and effort.
Right - and whether or not a site chooses to invest that time and effort, I believe, says much about their priorities and values.
re: #273 Dark_Falcon
It’s pretty difficult to deal with, unless you are willing to set up the kind of anti-troll defenses that Charles has erected. And thus take a great deal of time and effort.
So your defense is “yes, poor helpless NRO just can’t possibly be expected to run a website the way Charles and VERY few unpaid volunteers do”?
Come on.
re: #273 Dark_Falcon
They’ve been kicking out many of the trolls. But its worth noting that LGF hasn’t had a troll swarm in a while, whereas NRO has been suffering them repeatedly ever since National Review came out against Donald Trump. Most of the current trolls aren’t regular NRO readers, they show up after hate sites link to NRO articles are targets for troll attacks. The trolls then move in to fling poo. It’s pretty difficult to deal with, unless you are willing to set up the kind of anti-troll defenses that Charles has erected. And thus take a great deal of time and effort.
They don’t deserve defense. Yours, nor anyone else’s.
Prince died so we could have a Trump free day on CNN and MTV would remember how to play videos again.
— anibundel (@anibundel) April 21, 2016
re: #272 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Well, the mulch is not going to spread itself, so I will BBL instead of just disappearing.
;)
Looks like mulch has been spread right under your comment!
re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth
I see the problem here.
It’s an inability to tell the difference between “trolls” and the usual crowd…
Well, if terms like ‘cuckservative” were almost never heard on a site before a certain point, and were firmly rebuffed and deleted when used, and now there’s a host of new nics shouting that word plus saying a whole range of anti-Semitic things, then you can be fairly certain those new voices are spewing trolls and not regulars.
Yikes.
JUST IN: Two people have died after a bike path built for the Rio Olympics collapsed. #9News pic.twitter.com/ajuBJ1RJmv
— Nine News Australia (@9NewsAUS) April 21, 2016
Brazil needs no more ‘yikes’.
re: #276 bratwurst
So your defense is “yes, poor helpless NRO just can’t possibly be expected to run a website the way Charles and VERY few unpaid volunteers do”?
Come on.
Yes, that is actually it. Expecting a magazine and commentary site to invest the time and energy Charles has put into LGF’s comment system is in general too much to ask.
I’m just signing on and haven’t read anything above yet. I was listening to the MN Public Radio rock station (The Current 93.5) on the way home from work. They’ve gone all-Prince and a lot of people who knew or worked with him are calling in. Apparently just last night Prince went to a Mpls club to watch a band and everything appeared normal. I haven’t had a chance to catch up on why - if anyone knows yet.
My only connection with Prince is that my best friend was his piano tuner. He got us in to see one of his Purple Rain concerts in St. Paul. I may have seen Prince once at First Avenue, but it was just in passing - he had a group of friends around him that he was chatting with.
The Twin Cities is in mourning this evening.
re: #121 Dark_Falcon
Remember that the deceased in this case was a Christian. I’d ask you to leave off atheism just for today and during his memorial and/or funeral.
I was talking about Freepers, not Prince.
If Prince believed in leprechauns, and the freepers were from a hateful, dangerous leprechaunist sect, would you object when I mentioned that their leprechauns are imaginary. Somehow I doubt that.
This isn’t his funeral, it’s a blog. We don’t have to pretend that Christianity is true here, we generally do it as a courtesy to good religious people, but the freepers get no courtesy, and an evil version of Christianity has destroyed the Republican party. I think it’s well past time to push back against religion.
The truth is that while we can’t say for sure that powerful aliens don’t exist somewhere that would be in some ways similar to the gods we imagine, though probably not as petty as the freeper god is imagined, we can be confident that man’s gods are imaginary, regardless of anyone’s atheism. If I died tomorrow, the supernatural would still be imaginary, so my atheism isn’t relevant to anything really.
re: #273 Dark_Falcon
They’ve been kicking out many of the trolls. But its worth noting that LGF hasn’t had a troll swarm in a while, whereas NRO has been suffering them repeatedly ever since National Review came out against Donald Trump. Most of the current trolls aren’t regular NRO readers, they show up after hate sites link to NRO articles are targets for troll attacks. The trolls then move in to fling poo. It’s pretty difficult to deal with, unless you are willing to set up the kind of anti-troll defenses that Charles has erected. And thus take a great deal of time and effort.
Bullshit. Lay you odds 100/1 that NRO has more people (and money) than Charles to monitor their comment sections. They just don’t do it until the “trolls” as you call them become an embarrassment. Just like the reporters they hire and then fire when their blatantly obvious racists view points embarrass them as well.
Face it D_F, the NRO is a racist rag and every time you link to them or defend them, you endorse their racists view points.
re: #273 Dark_Falcon
They’ve been kicking out many of the trolls. But its worth noting that LGF hasn’t had a troll swarm in a while, whereas NRO has been suffering them repeatedly ever since National Review came out against Donald Trump. Most of the current trolls aren’t regular NRO readers, they show up after hate sites link to NRO articles are targets for troll attacks. The trolls then move in to fling poo. It’s pretty difficult to deal with, unless you are willing to set up the kind of anti-troll defenses that Charles has erected. And thus take a great deal of time and effort.
Where would NRO be if they banned the crazies like Charles did? Without wingnuts, what does NRO have to offer?
re: #273 Dark_Falcon
DF, you have shown yourself to be a good person repeatedly here. That’s why your blind spot regarding NR’s inherent racism is so aggravating. They are not worthy of your defense of them. The are the same iron fist in a velvet glove as they ever were and to expect otherwise is like expecting to find Isveztia in Pravda or Pravda in Isveztia, to remind you of the Soviet Era joke.
re: #282 Dark_Falcon
Yes, that is actually it. Expecting a magazine and commentary site to invest the time and energy Charles has put into LGF’s comment system is in general too much to ask.
LOL, no. The hate-spewing nitwits that support NRO are the exact same people Charles banned. Without wingnuts, there is no NRO.
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
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NRO has developed a Alt-Right comment troll problem (and had to get aggressive in deleting troll comments), but those trolls are not NRO. The articles do not reflect writers “losing their shit” in any way. Mr. Turk’s tweet is wrong.
In deference to the group, I’m not going to link to the stories in question.
The next generation of race-baiters has arrived: http://t.co/5Y9ZFebjF9 pic.twitter.com/POC3nAUVNj
— National Review (@NRO) June 23, 2015
Sorry Dark, we’ve been over this multiple times, the NRO is a horrible racist rag. You continue to enjoy and defend the publication because there’s something deeply fucked up inside you that you’re simply unwilling to confront, let alone overcome. It all stems from your Republican gang mentality.
re: #281 wrenchwench
Yikes.
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Yeah and hands up who just moved to Rio a couple of months ago?
That’s a road I use occasionally.
re: #282 Dark_Falcon
Yes, that is actually it. Expecting a magazine and commentary site to invest the time and energy Charles has put into LGF’s comment system is in general too much to ask.
No, it’s not. That’s just a gossamer excuse to blatantly accept the comments of the NRO’s (racist) commentate. Hell, even Faux News has the smarts to know when to shut down the comment section.
re: #289 goddamnedfrank
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Sorry Dark, we’ve been over this multiple times, the NRO is a horrible racist rag. You continue to enjoy and defend the publication because there’s something deeply fucked up inside you that you’re simply unwilling to confront, let alone overcome. It all stems from your Republican gang mentality.
He can’t take a single step away from his father, and somehow identifies with right-wing lunatics despite all the time he has spent here instead of at a RWNJ blog. You’d think he’d identify with his peers here, but nope, Conservative brainwashing runs deep.
re: #290 451_Montag
Yikes for you. Stay safe. Maybe wear a parachute while riding?
re: #281 wrenchwench
Yikes.
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Brazil needs no more ‘yikes’.
That is some rickety looking bullshit. Does not bode well.
AC/DC’s Thunderstruck playing at Trump rally in Harrisburg. OH from young reporters here: “what’s this song??”
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) April 21, 2016
heh…
It’s super classy to brag about results in a place that saw 126,000 voters purged https://t.co/ItuLL9uGJYhttps://t.co/v35d1i35ER
— David Sirota (@davidsirota) April 21, 2016
Love the utterly baseless implication that it was Sanders voters who were disproportionately removed from the rolls. https://t.co/tX9wJxnWad
— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) April 21, 2016
Hillary won Brooklyn by 60% to 40%, greater than her margin of victory statewide. Logically then the purge hurt her, not Sanders. But Sanders fans live in a vast conspiracy theory universe now where only his supporters are removed from voter rolls for inactivity.
It shouldn’t be that hard to moderate racist comments. I’m sorry but it shouldn’t. I agree with WW. They’re not worth your defense. So why defend them? They don’t care about you and could care less about you. All NRO cares about is their movement and protecting the very powerful. Regular schmos like you and I? We’re just a bunch of dumb proles to them who exist to be exploited by their wealthy allies.
re: #293 wrenchwench
Yikes for you. Stay safe. Maybe wear a parachute while riding?
re: #294 goddamnedfrank
That is some rickety looking bullshit. Does not bode well.
Got to say, feels a lot more modern and safe than some places I’ve lived. Building everywhere for the Olympic. The driving is a lot better than most places in SA as well
re: #282 Dark_Falcon
Yes, that is actually it. Expecting a magazine and commentary site to invest the time and energy Charles has put into LGF’s comment system is in general too much to ask.
What do you suppose the revenue of NR is vs. the revenue of LGF?
WTF is wrong with you?
re: #296 goddamnedfrank
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Hillary won Brooklyn by 60% to 40%, greater than her margin of victory statewide. Logically then the purge hurt her, not Sanders. But Sanders fans live in a vast conspiracy theory universe now where only his supporters are removed from voter rolls for inactivity.
Sirota is a jackass. But you’re right. Brooklyn went for Clinton. If this purge did happen, it would have adversely effected her and not Bernie but Sirota must travel on this road that Bernie supporters were hand picked for suppression on Tuesday.
Now let’s put Obama on the $50 bill and really piss them off
Half /
re: #296 goddamnedfrank
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Hillary won Brooklyn by 60% to 40%, greater than her margin of victory statewide. Logically then the purge hurt her, not Sanders. But Sanders fans live in a vast conspiracy theory universe now where only his supporters are removed from voter rolls for inactivity.
@goddamnedfrank A lot of Sanders fans are extremists, and they’re fantasy-prone, just like the extremists that wrecked the Republican party
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) April 21, 2016
re: #282 Dark_Falcon
Yes, that is actually it. Expecting a magazine and commentary site to invest the time and energy Charles has put into LGF’s comment system is in general too much to ask.
Dude, you’re smarter than this. Why do you defend this magazine? Really what has NRO ever done for you that makes them worth your defense? They don’t give two shits about you. I think and this may sound hyperbolic as hell but I don’t care but they’d literally sell you down the river if they thought it helped the cause of movement conservatism.
re: #301 Eclectic Cyborg
Now let’s out Obama on the $50 bill and really piss them off
Half /
Maybe in a couple generations.
re: #297 HappyWarrior
It shouldn’t be that hard to moderate racist comments. I’m sorry but it shouldn’t. I agree with WW. They’re not worth your defense. So why defend them? They don’t care about you and could care less about you. All NRO cares about is their movement and protecting the very powerful. Regular schmos like you and I? We’re just a bunch of dumb proles to them who exist to be exploited by their wealthy allies.
When the people making comments are that rabid, a keyword-search based IP ban would do the trick. It’s just that D_F would be their only remaining reader, and you can’t make a living grifting one Conservative.
re: #304 HappyWarrior
Maybe in a couple generations.
Any time after his death would be appropriate. That may be after my death though, so I never expect to see an Obama $50.
re: #306 No Country For Old Haters
Any time after his death would be appropriate. That may be after my death though, so I never expect to see an Obama $50.
Yes posthumously.
re: #296 goddamnedfrank
My sister unfriended me over this issue. I’m just heartbroken. //
re: #301 Eclectic Cyborg
Now let’s out Obama on the $50 bill and really piss them off
Half /
That’s going to a very long time coming, since it is the law that the currency cannot depict living persons.
re: #308 Jenner7
My sister unfriended me over this issue. I’m just heartbroken. //
We’re talking about a borough that is tailor made for Clinton to do well in. Getting BBs to admit defeat is like pulling teeth.
re: #310 HappyWarrior
That’s the point I was trying to make and all I got was, “So nice to see you agree with cheating.”
Sigh.
re: #311 Jenner7
That’s the point I was trying to make and all I got was, “So nice to see you agree with cheating.”
Sigh.
Sigh indeed. Honestly, I’ve had enough of Bernie. If this guy is the left’s great hope? The left needs to seriously re-access. You can share a lot of Bernie’s values without being a dogmatic jerk about it.
re: #311 Jenner7
Did lots of prospective voters get turned away? If so, maybe it was a problem. If not, then the purge was probably appropriate. I don’t recall seeing stories about tons of NY primary voters being turned away, but I also hadn’t been looking for them.
If very few people got turned away, then Bernie didn’t lose any voters.
ETA: If I still did twitter, I might start asking some of these people if they know how many prospective voters got turned away.
Lizards, the time has come to just ignore/shun D_F. He is a lost cause. We have tried over the past 8 years to show him why choosing party over Country and basic human dignity is wrong. He has constantly refused to accept or consider our arguments.
He has instead, continually linked to a blatantly racist web site to support his arguments. This should no longer be accepted by the community. Dark, you have become a automatic scroll over to me. Downding optional
The rest of you Lizards, well, you can as usual, make you own choices.
re: #312 HappyWarrior
Sigh indeed. Honestly, I’ve had enough of Bernie. If this guy is the left’s great hope? The left needs to seriously re-access. You can share a lot of Bernie’s values without being a dogmatic jerk about it.
This is what happens when you are convinced *everyone* in politics but the “outsider” is 100% crooked and believe elections in the United States are as honest as they are in Belarus.
re: #315 Jack Burton
This is what happens when you are convinced *everyone* in politics but the “outsider” is 100% crooked and believe elections in the United States are as honest as they are in Belarus.
Absolutely.
re: #311 Jenner7
That’s the point I was trying to make and all I got was, “So nice to see you agree with cheating.”
Sigh.
It’s ‘Failed Historian’ Conspiracism. As Canadian writer Jonathan Kay put it, for this kind of conspiracist “conspiracy theories are a tool to eliminate the cognitive dissonance that arrives when the course of human events doesn’t cooperate with the results demanded by their ideology”.
For someone deeply into a “Sanders as Savior” mentality, the idea he could lose the borough of his birth due to such a dull thing as demographics is impossible. Instead he must have been Thwarted by a Vile Clinton Conspiracy.
re: #312 HappyWarrior
Sigh indeed. Honestly, I’ve had enough of Bernie. If this guy is the left’s great hope? The left needs to seriously re-access. You can share a lot of Bernie’s values without being a dogmatic jerk about it.
Much of that is caused by not having a real left party. All we have is the center right Democrats and far right Republicans for significant parties. Without a center left, like in Europe, our left is marginalized and only the extremists get much in the way of notice. Bernie himself is fairly center left but has drawn the nuts out of the woodwork by being even something close to viable and has, I fear, come to reflect the nuts surrounding him.
re: #199 Jack Burton
I don’t know if No Country for old haters is an atheist or not
I’ve seen no evidence for the supernatural at all, despite requesting evidence from many people who make supernatural claims.
Religious people say I’m “an atheist” because their belief that would depend on the existence of the supernatural is in an anthropomorphic god that is said to have created us, despite all scientific evidence saying otherwise.
I suppose I’m also aleprechanist, afairyist, apsychicist, and anecromancist. Should people who have a belief they can’t provide evidence for really be the people labeling others, just because prior to the scientific era, we were all superstitious?
re: #318 William Lewis
Much of that is caused by not having a real left party. All we have is the center right Democrats and far right Republicans for significant parties. Without a center left, like in Europe, our left is marginalized and only the extremists get much in the way of notice. Bernie himself is fairly center left but has drawn the nuts out of the woodwork by being even something close to viable and has, I fear, come to reflect the nuts surrounding him.
That is true unfortunately. Our country moved to far to the right especially on economics a couple generations back.
re: #315 Jack Burton
This is what happens when you are convinced *everyone* in politics but the “outsider” is 100% crooked and believe elections in the United States are as honest as they are in Belarus.
Just so. It’s like being mad because the Speaker of the House is a “Washington Insider”. To which the appropriate reply seems to me to be a Chris Rock-esque: “The Speaker’s supposed to be a Washington Insider. If she or he wasn’t a DC insider, then that Speaker would be ineffective.”
re: #312 HappyWarrior
Sigh indeed. Honestly, I’ve had enough of Bernie. If this guy is the left’s great hope? The left needs to seriously re-access. You can share a lot of Bernie’s values without being a dogmatic jerk about it.
He’s the far-left’s hope. I don’t care what the far-left wants, anymore than I care what the far-right wants.
re: #322 No Country For Old Haters
He’s the far-left’s hope. I don’t care what the far-left wants, anymore than I care what the far-right wants.
That is true as well.
re: #317 Dark_Falcon
I was going to say what a rough way to go through life, having to constantly ignore plain evidence and simple critical thinking, but it probably isn’t. As you say, it eliminates dissonance and thus is probably actually a much less stressy way to live if you can manage to keep it up. If you believe in Bernie that fervently, believing in conspiracies is actually probably less uncomfortable than admitting he just isn’t all that strong a candidate.
re: #324 Jebediah, RBG
I was going to say what a rough way to go through life, having to constantly ignore plain evidence and simple critical thinking, but it probably isn’t. As you say, it eliminates dissonance and thus is probably actually a much less stressy way to live if you can manage to keep it up. If you believe in Bernie that fervently, believing in conspiracies is actually probably less uncomfortable than admitting he just isn’t all that strong a candidate.
You avoid short term pain when you go into conspiracism, but in the long term the Bad Craziness that usually goes with it inflicts its own kind of pain.
re: #212 jaunte
This contretemps highlights, once again, the extent to which the histories of particular groups and interests are now so often preferred to a larger, unifying American history. The current administration may have satisfied progressive demands momentarily. But we’ll be fighting this battle again, soon enough. You can put money on it.”
A larger unifying history? You mean one whitewashing the bad acts by our government?
Jackson was a new add to the $20. He was added in 1928. Why? Not even the Treasury seems to know the answer to that one. They just decided that Grover Cleveland was no longer worthy of adorning the $20.
So now, we’re going from Jackson to Tubman. And that’s somehow not part of a unifying American history?
Seriously? Tubman was at the forefront of the fight against slavery. A fight to be a better nation - and to end the insurrection against the Union launched by the South that seceded to preserve the institution of slavery where black men, women, and children were treated as chattel or worse.
The other changes to the $10 and $5 likewise add diversity and a history lesson.
Of course, history and facts are other things that the right wingers rail against. Knowing how and why women were denied the right to vote for so long, why minorities were treated awfully for so long, and why Jackson is being demoted (learn about the Trail of Tears sometime and how we still are doing wrong by Native Americans to this day) is something that the right can’t abide by.
History is passing them by, but they’ll get to see it as they buy and sell stuff in coming years.
re: #325 Dark_Falcon
Good point. Since so many of us seem to be mostly wired for the short-term that might explain the (to me) disturbingly high number of conspiracy believers.
re: #327 Jebediah, RBG
Good point. Since so many of us seem to be mostly wired for the short-term that might explain the (to me) disturbingly high number of conspiracy believers.
Well, if you like it, upding it.
Heh.
Ed: Purple Rain?
Shaun: No
Ed: Sign O’ The Times?
Shaun: Definitely not
Ed: The Batman soundtra…
Shaun: Throw it pic.twitter.com/k1sbb9Plfg— Zeddonymous (@ZeddRebel) April 21, 2016
re: #314 Bubblehead II
“Dark, you have become a automatic scroll over to me. Downding optional.”
Welcome to the club, Bh. I don’t have time to read comments made by someone who is always trying to defend the indefensible. We’re all humans with feelings, goals, dreams, wishes, etc, and hearing anyone try to defend others who constantly classify some of us as “Others,” while preaching to us about how much they “love” Jesus sickens me. I refuse to be bothered. I’m too old to spend my time listening to those who would deny our common humanity. What these persons don’t get is that we’re all headed to the same place—-the grave. If they realized their mortality, they wouldn’t be such sh*t stirrers. They’d spend their time making the world a better place rather than trying to tear the up the d*mn planet. One of the benefits of getting older is being able to better filter out the BS some want to peddle. After a 10 minute conversation, I can get a five year old child to admit that it’s wrong to stereotype and scapegoat others, so I have no patience with older persons who refuse to learn the simple lesson of live and let live. Personally, I don’t care what others do as long as they leave me the hell alone. I mind my own business and wish they’d do the same. These are the same persons who claim they’re going to live in harmony in heaven but can’t get along, accept others, and let God do his job. If I were queen of the world, I’d offshore all of them into outer space, putting them on a remote asteroid where they could duke it out to see who’d be top dog since that seems to be one of their major hangups, based on their comments. If they want to run things, they should find somewhere to go with like-minded individuals and run the place the way they want to run it. I don’t think they’re fit to live in a society among sane, mind-your-own-business, peace-loving, persons.
re: #326 lawhawk
A larger unifying history? You mean one whitewashing the bad acts by our government?
Jackson was a new add to the $20. He was added in 1928. Why? Not even the Treasury seems to know the answer to that one. They just decided that Grover Cleveland was no longer worthy of adorning the $20.
So now, we’re going from Jackson to Tubman. And that’s somehow not part of a unifying American history?
Seriously? Tubman was at the forefront of the fight against slavery. A fight to be a better nation - and to end the insurrection against the Union launched by the South that seceded to preserve the institution of slavery where black men, women, and children were treated as chattel or worse.
The other changes to the $10 and $5 likewise add diversity and a history lesson.
Of course, history and facts are other things that the right wingers rail against. Knowing how and why women were denied the right to vote for so long, why minorities were treated awfully for so long, and why Jackson is being demoted (learn about the Trail of Tears sometime and how we still are doing wrong by Native Americans to this day) is something that the right can’t abide by.
History is passing them by, but they’ll get to see it as they buy and sell stuff in coming years.
You’d think NRO would be happy. The Obama Administration chose a Christian Republican. // But noooooo they have to bitch because they know their readership demands it that the Obama administration decided to put a prominent abolitionist on our money. I swear, the NRO if Obama had been president during the Civil War would be doing their usual mental gymanstics. They don’t have a real ideology anymore if they ever really did. Just hating the Obama administration.
re: #279 wrenchwench
Looks like mulch has been spread right under your comment!
I need another 6 bags minimum. Probably more like 12.
My back says not today though.
Reflections on Prince: My classmate, the rock star https://t.co/P7hx2zG8So via @WSJ
— James R. Hagerty (@JamesRHagerty) April 21, 2016
Put Tubman on the $20 and move Jackson to the new $13 bill.
Lesbian woman in a women’s restroom gets ejected by the police for looking too butch…and it is all on video.
Rod Dreher claps faps enthusiastically:
Now, this put-upon lesbian sounds like a male. She’s dressed like a male. She moves like a male. It is more than reasonable for the police to assume upon looking at her and listening to her that she’s a male. That’s why they asked her for ID. If you were one of those police officers, you would have done the same thing — and when the alleged lesbian got mouthy and refused to produce an ID, you would have removed her from the public toilet. Otherwise, you might have let a man stay in the women’s bathroom — a public toilet — making women who didn’t know this person was a lesbian very uncomfortable, and even make them feel unsafe.
Because in authoritarian Dreherland, faggots, dykes and trannies should never exist in the first place, and they certainly shouldn’t be in public
I wasn’t even upset that Jackson was on the 20 dollar bill. He has a place in American history. A lot of it is frankly bad but I have no problem replacing him with an African-American abolitionist who first escaped slavery herself and then helped others to do so. You’d think that those obsessed with acting like the parties are vaccums and have remained unchanged over the last 150+ years would be okay with this. And a Democratic administration is replacing one of the founder of its party with someone else.
re: #337 Aunty Entity Dragon
I don’t have the words for how I feel about this right now.
re: #337 Aunty Entity Dragon
Lesbian woman in a women’s restroom gets ejected by the police for looking too butch…and it is all on video.
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Rod Dreher
clapsfaps enthusiastically:Because in authoritarian Dreherland, faggots, dykes and trannies should never exist in the first place, and they certainly shouldn’t be in public
I knew this was going to happen. Thanks bigoted right wing fuckers.
KARE is doing a full hour newscast on the unfortunate passing of Prince - with a definite local focus, after all, he was a Twin Cities boy through and through.
re: #340 HappyWarrior
I knew this was going to happen. Thanks bigoted right wing fuckers.
Yep…and the religious right will be there just like Rod to applaud as women are kicked out of their own spaces.
It’s what you get for not dressing like a girl you know! next time wear a skirt and heels!
Rainbow appears over Paisley Park. #RIPPrince pic.twitter.com/67bxb57YY2
— KARE 11 (@kare11) April 21, 2016
re: #342 Aunty Entity Dragon
Yep…and the religious right will be there just like Rod to applaud as women are kicked out of there own spaces.
It’s what you get for not dressing like a girl you know! next time wear a skirt and heels!
Of course. Sigh. I don’t want to hear conservatives ever complain about the liberal nanny state when they’ve been pushing shit like this. Man I feel awful for this woman. Getting that kind of harassment over wanting to use the bathroom? Fucking shameful.
Spelling fail…I must be tired.
In other news, I saw the sleep specialist doc today about getting a CPAP. My sleep study looked like a nightmare. I stopped breathing something like 27 times that night. I am supposed to hear from a vendor about a machine soon.
re: #346 Aunty Entity Dragon
Spelling fail…I must be tired.
In other news, I saw the sleep specialist doc today about getting a CPAP. My sleep study looked like a nightmare. I stopped breathing something like 27 times that night. I am supposed to hear from a vendor about a machine soon.
When I did mine I stopped breathing 419 times during the duration of the study.
re: #342 Aunty Entity Dragon
Yep…and the religious right will be there just like Rod to applaud as women are kicked out of their own spaces.
It’s what you get for not dressing like a girl you know! next time wear a skirt and heels!
Now we have to review our wardrobe and have the right hair-cut before we can pee? What will Conservative “progress’ bring next?
re: #347 Jack Burton
When I did mine I stopped breathing 419 times during the duration of the study.
That is the sort of thing that will kill you. Damn. :(
Maybe our good conservative friends will propose that we have a religious police to ensure that men and women are dressed properly. //
re: #338 HappyWarrior
I wasn’t even upset that Jackson was on the 20 dollar bill. He has a place in American history. A lot of it is frankly bad but I have no problem replacing him with an African-American abolitionist who first escaped slavery herself and then helped others to do so. You’d think that those obsessed with acting like the parties are vaccums and have remained unchanged over the last 150+ years would be okay with this. And a Democratic administration is replacing one of the founder of its party with someone else.
Posted yesterday, but can’t be posted enough. Especially on a sad day like today
re: #350 HappyWarrior
Maybe our good conservative friends will propose that we have a religious police to ensure that men and women are dressed properly. //
Shhh! Don’t give’em ideas!
I sincerely think conservatives in this country are growing more reactionary. To use a historical analogy, the KKK made a comeback in the 1960’s as the Civil Rights movement strengthened. I think most of our country is headed in the right direction but there’s another part growing even more reactionary.
re: #333 HappyWarrior
You’d think NRO would be happy. The Obama Administration chose a Christian Republican. // But noooooo they have to bitch because they know their readership demands it that the Obama administration decided to put a prominent abolitionist on our money. I swear, the NRO if Obama had been president during the Civil War would be doing their usual mental gymanstics. They don’t have a real ideology anymore if they ever really did. Just hating the Obama administration.
Actually, the facts of Tubman’s life seen as a positive did get an airing on NRO. there have been 4 NRO articles posted about the change, two of which trolled or concern-trolled the left, but none of said articles actually objected to the change-out of Jackson in favor of Tubman.
NRO’s got problems, but on the matter of the $20 bill change-over the site’s writers have not crossed any boundaries of decency, nor despite the concern-trolling has any of the articles said anything remotely racist.
And that really is just about all I can say on the topic. The bigot brigade has been out in force, but NRO hasn’t acted as part of it on this matter. Fire should instead be aimed at those who are actually spouting hate.
re: #348 No Country For Old Haters
Now we have to review our wardrobe and have the right hair-cut before we can pee? What will Conservative “progress’ bring next?
Griswold V Conn. overturned and no right to birth control, for starters. That one is high on the list for hard core social conservatives.
re: #354 Dark_Falcon
You know, if you’re really desperate to shovel, I’ll go get more mulch and you can work in the backyard.
re: #354 Dark_Falcon
Actually, the facts of Tubman’s life seen as a positive did get an airing on NRO. there have been 4 NRO articles posted about the change, two of which trolled or concern-trolled the left, but none of said articles actually objected to the change-out of Jackson in favor of Tubman.
NRO’s got problems, but on the matter of the $20 bill change-over the site’s writers have not crossed any boundaries of decency, nor despite the concern-trolling has any of the articles said anything remotely racist.
And that really is just about all I can say on the topic. The bigot brigade has been out in force, but NRO hasn’t acted as part of it on this matter. Fire should instead be aimed at those who are actually spouting hate.
So why did they bitch about feminists? Why not say- We think it’s a great idea that the Obama administration chose an abolitionist for the 20 dollars. I’ll tell you why. It’s because their readership is full of fucking assholes who need to be told that feminists are the bane of their existence. NRO can kiss the furthest corner of my ass.i’ll continue to direct my fire at your favorite magazine of choice until you acknowledge their complacency in the conservative movement’s bigotry directed at feminists, civil rights activists, and anyone else they deem unAmerican.
re: #353 HappyWarrior
I sincerely think conservatives in this country are growing more reactionary. To use a historical analogy, the KKK made a comeback in the 1960’s as the Civil Rights movement strengthened. I think most of our country is headed in the right direction but there’s another part growing even more reactionary.
Of course they are. They’ve been driven by their hatred of modern people, rather than having any positive goal, for my whole adult life, and they haven’t moved forward with us on a single issue. They’re just getting angrier. If they’re still not over the good guys winning on civil rights in the 1960s, they’re never going to get over anything that has made America a better place for all people.
re: #356 klys (maker of Silmarils)
You know, if you’re really desperate to shovel, I’ll go get more mulch and you can work in the backyard.
I don’t want to, but it bothers me to see a site being described as having ‘lost its shit’ when I saw no signs of that happening. It’s like when the Stalker Blog was going on and on about how evil LGF was, but yet I knew the “problems” the haters deluded themselves into believing were there did not in fact exist.
And I know the way I get wound up about this is in large part a “Someone on the Internet is WRONG!” sort of manner, but its a compulsion for me.
re: #359 No Country For Old Haters
Of course they are. They’ve been driven by their hatred of modern people, rather than having any positive goal, for my whole adult life, and they haven’t moved forward with us on a single issue. They’re just getting angrier. If they’re still not over the good guys winning on civil rights in the 1960s, they’re never going to get over anything that has made America a better place for all people.
Which makes them fascists in my opinion.
re: #360 Dark_Falcon
I don’t want to, but it bothers me to see a site being described as having ‘lost its shit’ when I saw no signs of that happening. It’s like when the Stalker Blog was going on and on about how evil LGF was, but yet I knew the “problems” the haters deluded themselves into believing were there did not in fact exist.
And I know the way I get wound up about this is in large part a “Someone on the Internet is WRONG!” sort of manner, but its a compulsion for me.
LGF ain’t NRO. Our host isn’t a bigot like that hack Buckley was.
Disturbing news coming from the most prominent rumor site, that Prince overdosed on an “Opiate” … This would seem to be at odds with his public Jehovas’ Witnesses faith, but so too would be him sleeping with about 30,000 models and actresses. If true, this would be yet another sad example of a life taken too soon by some very personal demons.
The fact of the matter is NRO can’t get an article in without an obligatory whinefest at the the Obama administration, feminists, civil rights activists, or whatever the left of center target of their hate du jour is.
re: #360 Dark_Falcon
I don’t want to, but it bothers me to see a site being described as having ‘lost its shit’ when I saw no signs of that happening. It’s like when the Stalker Blog was going on and on about how evil LGF was, but yet I knew the “problems” the haters deluded themselves into believing were there did not in fact exist.
And I know the way I get wound up about this is in large part a “Someone on the Internet is WRONG!” sort of manner, but its a compulsion for me.
Mostly what you’re doing is establishing that you see nothing wrong with the NRO for writing 4 articles on putting Harriet Tubman on the $20, which a rational and reasonable person might regard as a little bit of overkill. And that you’re fine with the insinuations that it’s so horrible that feminists got involved in wanting to see representations of women on our currency, because everyone knows that no women ever did anything noteworthy in the history of our country. And it’s just horrible that the government is giving in to these special interest groups instead of unifying the country by only portraying the history that has to do with white men.
It’s pretty clarifying, actually. But I was mostly just trying to point out that repeatedly linking the NRO isn’t going to make Charles happy. As you know.
Reply to 361
They are if they ever rise up against our democracy, but now, most of them are just hate-fueled, uneducated dumbasses, who talk a big game, but are really cowards who will never harm anyone but themselves.
I mean damn DF I’ve seen you speak well of Deray McKeeson. You know what your pals at the NRO think of? They call him a race baiter. Do you really think that feminists having a say in putting women on our money is such a terrible thing? I mean I saw it put this way when I saw the Anita Hill hearings discussed the other day. In 1991, we had two women senators. Two. Today we have twenty. Why shouldn’t feminists have some say? Why do feminists having a voice bother the good old boy network so much at NRO? Well frankly I think it’s because they’re threatened by women having a say.
re: #337 Aunty Entity Dragon
My dog…
This is just 100% wrong. No “but”…no “she should have..” This. was. wrong.
re: #337 Aunty Entity Dragon
I wonder how Dreher would take it if a dad told him that he’s not allowed in the bathroom because of concern of the welfare of the boys in there?
NRO isn’t as intelligent as they think. In fact, they’re actually quite stupid. I’ll liken them to Ted Cruz. They’re what I call well educated idiots. People who may have great educations but have never tried educating themselves about the lives and experiences of other people and frankly it’s that lack of empathy that makes conservatism in this country such an exclusive movement. I’m not LGBT myself but I can emphasize with the discrimination that my LGBT friends and family have gone through. The geniuses at the NRO can’t do that because that would mean putting themselves in the shoes of other people not like them and that really is what I think defines how we approach ideology in the 21st century.
re: #367 HappyWarrior
I mean damn DF I’ve seen you speak well of Deray McKeeson. You know what your pals at the NRO think of? They call him a race baiter. Do you really think that feminists having a say in putting women on our money is such a terrible thing? I mean I saw it put this way when I saw the Anita Hill hearings discussed the other day. In 1991, we had two women senators. Two. Today we have twenty. Why shouldn’t feminists have some say? Why do feminists having a voice bother the good old boy network so much at NRO? Well frankly I think it’s because they’re threatened by women having a say.
NRO thinks influence and having a voice is a zero sum game. If someone else gets more, they therefore have less.
re: #371 Feline Fearless Leader
NRO thinks influence and having a voice is a zero sum game. If someone else gets more, they therefore have less.
Yeah I think that’s right unfortunately.
re: #367 HappyWarrior
It appears to me that they seem to think we have a “place,” and we ought to stay in it, let them make all of the decisions, including ours, and have their dinner on the table when they get home. I’ve often wondered whether they really believe the things they say or if they say them to make bank. I think of someone like Phyllis Schlafly who is virulently anti-feminism, but has always had a career, and founded and ran the Eagle Forum for many years while she tries to tell other women what they should think/do. If anyone is a huge hypocrite, she’s it.
re: #371 Feline Fearless Leader
NRO thinks influence and having a voice is a zero sum game. If someone else gets more, they therefore have less.
To some extent, it’s true.
It’s much easier to have your whims and wishes catered to when your voice is the only one that’s allowed to speak up. You never have to compromise either.
re: #346 Aunty Entity Dragon
Spelling fail…I must be tired.
In other news, I saw the sleep specialist doc today about getting a CPAP. My sleep study looked like a nightmare. I stopped breathing something like 27 times that night. I am supposed to hear from a vendor about a machine soon.
A CPAP can be a pain in the neck to get used to. My spouse keeps making jokes about steam trains, for which I haven’t killed him yet. Yet… However, I can testify that it works; I can tell I’m a lot more tired after a night where I didn’t use it.
Hope it works well for you!
Getting old is the pits, but I don’t fancy the alternative either:
re: #373 majii
It appears to me that they seem to think we have a “place,” and we ought to stay in it, let them make all of the decisions, including ours, and have their dinner on the table when they get home. I’ve often wondered whether they really believe the things they say or if they say them to make bank. I think of someone like Phyllis Schlafly who is virulently anti-feminism, but has always had a career, and founded and ran the Eagle Forum for many years while she tries to tell other women what they should think/do. If anyone is a huge hypocrite, she’s it.
Yes. That’s a great point about Phyllis Schalfly. She’s literally spent a half century outside the home telling women they’re awful for being outside the home.
I’m seeing on FB that Percy Sledge has also passed. Gah….
Man, Dark.
All I can say about your firm (and in my opinion woefully tragic) stand on your beliefs: it’s getting harder and harder to not lump you in with the fellow travelers that enable the types who do things like HB2, or call Deray a race baiter, or only act to clean house when company’s over and the mess is an embarrassment.
I’d prefer if you honestly assess what you believe in along with why.
re: #373 majii
It appears to me that they seem to think we have a “place,” and we ought to stay in it, let them make all of the decisions, including ours, and have their dinner on the table when they get home. I’ve often wondered whether they really believe the things they say or if they say them to make bank. I think of someone like Phyllis Schlafly who is virulently anti-feminism, but has always had a career, and founded and ran the Eagle Forum for many years while she tries to tell other women what they should think/do. If anyone is a huge hypocrite, she’s it.
Oh, but you know, her work limiting choices for women was important enough to allow her to make the choice she wants to deny to other women.
Or something.
re: #377 Dave In Austin
I’m seeing on FB that Percy Sledge has also passed. Gah….
He died last year.
re: #377 Dave In Austin
I’m seeing on FB that Percy Sledge has also passed. Gah….
He died last year in April.
re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth
Ok I see that. I feel really old.
re: #346 Aunty Entity Dragon
Spelling fail…I must be tired.
In other news, I saw the sleep specialist doc today about getting a CPAP. My sleep study looked like a nightmare. I stopped breathing something like 27 times that night. I am supposed to hear from a vendor about a machine soon.
This is a dead thread now but I just wanted to say that about 4 months ago I got a new CPAP ‘machine’. This one. I love it. I think it’s available for a lot less that it is at my link. It has some electronics that can sense when your breathing out and it backs off on the pressure a bit. I’m using this mask because it allows me to sleep on my side. I won’t say that any CPAP mask is comfortable, but I like this one best.
re: #384 stpaulbear
This is a dead thread now but I just wanted to say that about 4 months ago I got a new CPAP ‘machine’. This one. I love it. I think it’s available for a lot less that it is at my link. It has some electronics that can sense when your breathing out and it backs off on the pressure a bit. I’m using this mask because it allows me to sleep on my side. I won’t say that any CPAP mask is comfortable, but I like this one best.
Yes, it’s $200 less at Sleep Direct, and a lot less than that if you don’t want the heat and humidity addons.
The reason NRO is shit is because it continually rectifies the past to service the current identity politics of social conservatism while (1) denying it, (2) abhorring the insane retrograde belief structure that has formed from the crazy alt-history that it perpetuates. If you can only comment on Harriet Tubman within the frame of “she’s okay, but good these awful feminists and race hustlers shouldn’t have pulled this off” the the point of the article isn’t Harriet Tubman as person, it’s Harriet Tubman as yet another excuse to re-iterate that all liberals and stupid and evil and deserve nothing.
Much like the beneficent of mythos of Ronald Reagan and William Buckley airbrushes the ugly aspects of past conservatism so that present conservatism can be presented as not just the same reactionary shit, but some kind of boldness and honesty. The joke being, the rest of the world isn’t supposed to notice that the Reagan-esque condescension that NRO sells is what begat the angry fuckwittery of people like Limbaugh, which begat the mindlessly hateful shit of Breitbart. All have the same “we’re correct, and Right, and we’ll work backwards from that” premise.
Keeping in mind that the fundamental dishonesty and lunacy of this kind of rolling anachronistic cynicism is crystallized in “Liberal Fascism,” in which the horror of Nazi Germany is appropriated to demonstrate how awful and dangerous American liberals are. Because that is “serious thinking” if you’re willing to be fundamentally dishonest, disingenuously, and cynical. And those three adjectives are what keeps coming up with regard to NRO. It’s the pseudo-intellectual branch of the “can fail, can only be failed” worldview that’s been propagated.
Hence the joke of stuff like “Against Trump” and the Williamson screed about Trump voters: they set the stage for this solipsistic politics by their own revisions and myth-making. They encouraged anti-intellectualism as a basis for culture war issues as long as it seemed containable in the lower orders, while the leading class did “serious” stuff like read David Brooks columns. They’re con men, in that they wish to cynical use the paranoid style, and to move a “base” whose fear they inflate to insane levels, but they’ve gone all Hubbardian and started to believe their own hustle: hence this kind of endless loquacious game of Pin The Tail On The True Scotsman, where there’s always a new Serious Conservative Hope about to break out and change politics.
Well, that particular rainbow-shitting unicorn has failed to manifest, so now that failure has to be explained away because can’t fail. So Trump is a secret liberal, and those dedicated party bloc voters who used to be lauded as bedrock are shitty meth-addled, unemployed proles.
Marginally longer sentences and patrician affectations don’t actually conceal that they’re just selling the same hubris as the other hucksters.
re: #386 The Ghost of a Flea
You should repost this upstairs too, it’ll be just as valid there.
And maybe get a few more updings.
re: #331 majii
They’d spend their time making the world a better place rather than trying to tear the up the d*mn planet.
Hear, hear!
re: #273 Dark_Falcon
They’ve been kicking out many of the trolls. But its worth noting that LGF hasn’t had a troll swarm in a while, whereas NRO has been suffering them repeatedly ever since National Review came out against Donald Trump. Most of the current trolls aren’t regular NRO readers, they show up after hate sites link to NRO articles are targets for troll attacks. The trolls then move in to fling poo. It’s pretty difficult to deal with, unless you are willing to set up the kind of anti-troll defenses that Charles has erected. And thus take a great deal of time and effort.
Keep on twisting yourself into a pretzel to defend your beloved NR. Cuz fuck reality, right?
You’ve become a sadly predictable joke.