Donald Trump Tries to Defend His Antisemitic Tweet by Comparing It to Disney's "Frozen"

Donald Trump Tries to Defend His Antisemitic Tweet by Comparing It to Disney’s “Frozen”

Hard to believe how insane this is getting

PoliticsJuly 2016 • Views: 57,585

Some people think this context-free ludicrous meme originated at Reddit, others think it came from creepy “men’s rights advocate” Mike @Cernovich. Right wing loons have been tweeting it at me all day but tonight Donald Trump is tweeting it out to his followers, with his unerring instinct for what will appeal to the dumbest elements of the right.

Where is the outrage for this Disney book? Is this the ‘Star of David’ also? Dishonest media! #Frozen pic.twitter.com/4LJBpSm8xa

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 7, 2016

People who try to defend Trump’s bigotry and racism keep getting chumped by him when he doubles down on it.

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895 comments

The Vicious Babushka Jul 6, 2016 • 7:10:13pm

Trump has a point. You’re seeing things if you think this is anti-Semitic. pic.twitter.com/NOD5A8xf2r

— Daniel Lin (@DLin71) July 7, 2016

Kragar Jul 6, 2016 • 7:10:46pm

Trump spokeswoman argues that his bankruptcy filings were actually altruistic https://t.co/emXuOHBZSc pic.twitter.com/nYHLUytYQS

— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) July 7, 2016

Testy Toad T Jul 6, 2016 • 7:12:45pm

Let the convention rage on. The Electoral College never bothered me anyway.

nines09 Jul 6, 2016 • 7:12:58pm

“He didn’t mean it. Well, he did, but not that way. But I meant to say he meant it. Yes. He means it. No. He does not. Yes he does. No. Not like that. Yes. JUST like that. But I thought that….Never that way, but he wanted it to mean that, the other way…Wait….”

Donald’s support staff 5AM meeting.

Barefoot Grin Jul 6, 2016 • 7:13:08pm

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

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Right. It’s a real book, but so what. Context is everything.

abebooks.com

Stanley Sea Jul 6, 2016 • 7:13:31pm

The best part of Trump gleefully relitigating the Star of David tweet is how painfully it exposes @JaredKushner as either a fraud or a dupe
— Daily Kos Elections (@DKElections) July 7, 2016

Repost from below.

Again, very very sad.

Stanley Sea Jul 6, 2016 • 7:15:05pm

Is this Jared’s bro?

wow

Different take-away from our Grandparents’ experience. We must speak out against hate. Anti-semitism or otherwise. https://t.co/zOuDSXNsa5

— marc kushner (@marchitizer) July 6, 2016

The Vicious Babushka Jul 6, 2016 • 7:15:18pm

LOL, the full cover shows Kristoff wearing what looks like a kippa

Lidane Jul 6, 2016 • 7:16:19pm

Are we sure that all of this isn’t some sort of elaborate pre-convention suicide by cop on Trump’s part? He is even more unhinged than usual.

The whole thing is just bizarre.

Testy Toad T Jul 6, 2016 • 7:17:08pm

re: #9 Lidane

Are we sure that all of this isn’t some sort of elaborate pre-convention suicide by cop on Trump’s part? He is even more unhinged than usual.

The whole thing is just bizarre.

I never did like mosquitos!

wow
very presidential
such positions

Kragar Jul 6, 2016 • 7:18:13pm

Live video of Republicans who have endorsed Trump pic.twitter.com/t41lCsLjuT

— Daniel Lin (@DLin71) July 7, 2016

Stanley Sea Jul 6, 2016 • 7:19:08pm

Cousin I think.

i_a_c Jul 6, 2016 • 7:19:15pm

DAYUM. Clinton web team on point.

Do you want to build a strawman? https://t.co/AoeNTJOGpo

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) July 7, 2016

Skip Intro Jul 6, 2016 • 7:20:35pm

re: #10 Testy Toad T

I never did like mosquitos!

wow
very presidential
such positions

First he’s attacked by a bald eagle, then a mosquito. Freaks out both times.

This is the guy who’s going to get ISIS?

Lidane Jul 6, 2016 • 7:20:42pm

Ouch.

Trump’s Sherrif convention pic.twitter.com/bn1I3d3otw

— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) July 7, 2016

lawhawk Jul 6, 2016 • 7:20:44pm

Trump knows his audience/supporters well. This is all to keep his supporters engaged and ignoring all of his faults. As much as other GOPers are handwringing, it’s not substantive problems that are keeping them at a distance, it’s style. Trump is undisciplined and incapable of self-analysis and improvement. He wants to portray strength, but it comes off as blustery buffoonery. Dumbassery if you will. His supporters love him for it. Reince and the other GOPers can only suck down industrial grade antacids to get through the election season.

How is Trump doing it? He’s got supporters/followers like Hoft doing his dirty work for him. Speaking of Hoft, he’s running the same playbook he ran with Ferguson:

Blame the victim of an officer-involved shooting:

Felon, Pedophile and Deadbeat Dad #AltonSterling Shot Dead After Wrestling with Police – DOJ to Investigate (VIDEO) https://t.co/nBhiA5W3xq

— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) July 7, 2016

Make claims that are questionable or ignore the facts of the actual incident itself. Question the victim’s life choices and prior behavior and ignore the cops’ unjustified use of deadly force.

Lidane Jul 6, 2016 • 7:22:38pm

GOP consultant:

Disciplined Trump speech in Ohio tonight focused on Star of David, Saddam Hussein, Scotland trip and Chuck Todd.

— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) July 6, 2016

Testy Toad T Jul 6, 2016 • 7:23:36pm

re: #14 Skip Intro

First he’s attacked by a bald eagle, then a mosquito. Freaks out both times.

This is the guy who’s going to get ISIS?

As a person who spends a few weeks each year in northern Wisconsin, I am 110% behind Trump’s anti-mosquito agenda. Make Camping Great Again!

Stanley Sea Jul 6, 2016 • 7:24:30pm

re: #17 Lidane

GOP consultant:

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Vichy GOP

The Vicious Babushka Jul 6, 2016 • 7:24:39pm

re: #14 Skip Intro

First he’s attacked by a bald eagle, then a mosquito. Freaks out both times.

This is the guy who’s going to get ISIS?

Remember that time a fly buzzed and landed on Obama’s face and the wingnuts made memes about it forever HE IS BEELZEBUBB!!!!!!1!!

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 6, 2016 • 7:24:44pm

re: #18 Testy Toad T

As a person who spends a few weeks each year in northern Wisconsin, I am 110% behind Trump’s anti-mosquito agenda. Make Camping Great Again!

Hiking to and from the ranch this weekend, I had a mosquito fly into my mouth. Twice.

There’s nothing like nearly vomiting because there’s a bug in your mouth, as you’re frantically trying to hike out of the damn meadow where they’re all swarming around.

Shimshon Jul 6, 2016 • 7:25:01pm

And almost 5 full pages of articles on Hillary submitted to reddits /politics. Unhinged and worried about the most meaningless things. Has the whole internet become nothing but partisan trolls and insane people?

Testy Toad T Jul 6, 2016 • 7:26:47pm

re: #22 Shimshon

And almost 5 full pages of articles on Hillary submitted to reddits /politics. Unhinged and worried about the most meaningless things. Has the whole internet become nothing but partisan trolls and insane people?

Nah, there are still creepy alien ultrasound fetuses on Facebook!

MsJ Jul 6, 2016 • 7:27:18pm

re: #16 lawhawk

I really hate these people. I’ve never been one who hates, but I truly despise these people who have completely forsaken their humanity and become monsters. Truly horrible, sociopathic assholes.

FormerDirtDart Jul 6, 2016 • 7:28:01pm

Tomorrows New York Daily News front page
very graphic

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Lidane Jul 6, 2016 • 7:29:47pm

Last night Trump praised Saddam Hussein. Tonight he says Eisenhower really didn’t have much to do with winning WWII. #FreeTheDelegates

— Steve Deace (@SteveDeaceShow) July 6, 2016

Stanley Sea Jul 6, 2016 • 7:30:17pm

Never seen this: Clinton allies are promoting the full video of Trump’s speech. https://t.co/0GvAetyaZx

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 7, 2016

Barking mad candidate is great for our campaign!

Must watch and share. Full Event: Donald Trump/Newt Gingrich Rally in Cincinnati, OH (7-6-16) https://t.co/AiRMVkIfhA

— David Plouffe (@davidplouffe) July 7, 2016

MsJ Jul 6, 2016 • 7:31:35pm

Pics of my canine cuties.

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Stanley Sea Jul 6, 2016 • 7:33:57pm

The NYT’s straight news story accurately calls Trump’s speech tonight “a striking display of self-sabotage.” https://t.co/GJUVoYBoyx

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 7, 2016

ObserverArt Jul 6, 2016 • 7:37:51pm

To go with today’s Trumpian display of reality I did this quick Photoshop…

The Trump White Room

Decatur Deb Jul 6, 2016 • 7:41:05pm

re: #21 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hiking to and from the ranch this weekend, I had a mosquito fly into my mouth. Twice.

There’s nothing like nearly vomiting because there’s a bug in your mouth, as you’re frantically trying to hike out of the damn meadow where they’re all swarming around.

Try to see that from the mosquito’s point of view.

Belafon Jul 6, 2016 • 7:42:07pm

re: #22 Shimshon

And almost 5 full pages of articles on Hillary submitted to reddits /politics. Unhinged and worried about the most meaningless things. Has the whole internet become nothing but partisan trolls and insane people?

stackoverflow.com answers a good 90% of my programming problems.
wikipedia.com is generally a good start when needing to answer a question like “What are LaGrange points?”
And you’ll pry Google maps/traffic/street view out of my cold dead virtual hands.

Skip Intro Jul 6, 2016 • 7:42:33pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

Are Bush II and Darth Cheney going to remain silent while Trump praises the guy they blew $3 trillion on killing?

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 6, 2016 • 7:42:45pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

Try to see that from the mosquito’s point of view.

Nope.

Stanley Sea Jul 6, 2016 • 7:43:14pm

Or was Trump echoing Steve Sailer? https://t.co/RqYrNlspFT

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) July 7, 2016

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 6, 2016 • 7:44:35pm

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 6, 2016 • 7:44:39pm

it’s clear that the Frozen poster leverages well known anti semitic memes about jews and talking snowmen which makes the context of the six pointed star obvious as a mogen david and not just a geometrical shape

Decatur Deb Jul 6, 2016 • 7:44:53pm

re: #34 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Nope.

That mosquito left 600 orphans.

jaunte Jul 6, 2016 • 7:45:04pm

At least mosquitoes don’t crunch as much as june bugs.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 6, 2016 • 7:45:26pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

That mosquito left 600 orphans.

I HOPE THEY ALL DIE in a manner benefiting the ecosystem.

There’s plenty of others to fill in the gaps, believe me.

Decatur Deb Jul 6, 2016 • 7:45:55pm

re: #39 jaunte

At least mosquitoes don’t crunch as much as june bugs.

June bugs converted me to full-face motorcycle helmets.

Viscous Obama Jul 6, 2016 • 7:46:47pm

Uh, er… look who else tweeted this picture

Terrible display of anti-semitism from @Disney, please disavow immediately pic.twitter.com/CTtcgiKKH4

— Pizza Party Bantz (@PizzaPartyBen) July 6, 2016

Did he get this image from the alt-right, too?

Skip Intro Jul 6, 2016 • 7:47:02pm

re: #39 jaunte

We don’t have mosquitos here on the Central Coast. That’s probably because we don’t have any water either.

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 6, 2016 • 7:47:51pm

re: #21 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hiking to and from the ranch this weekend, I had a mosquito fly into my mouth. Twice.

There’s nothing like nearly vomiting because there’s a bug in your mouth, as you’re frantically trying to hike out of the damn meadow where they’re all swarming around.

Twice? Damn! That’s one determined mosquito!
//

Lidane Jul 6, 2016 • 7:48:07pm

Mental health break:

Wait for… PEEKABOO!!🐶🐶💘 https://t.co/2oETU0Xm30

— Jena C. (@JenaC2) July 7, 2016

Belafon Jul 6, 2016 • 7:48:26pm

re: #39 jaunte

At least mosquitoes don’t crunch as much as june bugs.

It was so wet in April and May here in Rockwall that we didn’t have our usual June Bug infestation. The grub worms must have all drowned.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 6, 2016 • 7:48:43pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

Twice? Damn! That’s one determined mosquito!
//

Especially when I’m pretty sure I swallowed it the first time.

Blech.

lawhawk Jul 6, 2016 • 7:48:52pm

TK-421 Jul 6, 2016 • 7:48:54pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

It’s got a circle on it too!!! Coincidence!?!11tyyt!?

Charles Johnson Jul 6, 2016 • 7:51:44pm

Trying to find the source of Trump’s tweets is a disturbing journey down the rabbit-hole of internet bad craziness.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 7, 2016

Lidane Jul 6, 2016 • 7:52:42pm

People are widely questioning why Trump is allowed to have the password to his own twitter account.

He’s running to have the nuclear codes.

— Josh Schwerin (@JoshSchwerin) July 7, 2016

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 6, 2016 • 7:53:32pm

If you’re Paul Manafort, you have to look seriously at staging a massive fake Twitter operation to fool Trump until the election.

— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) July 7, 2016

Skip Intro Jul 6, 2016 • 7:54:50pm

I hope that just before the GOP convention Elizabeth Warren unleashes a barrage of tweets against Trumplethinskin. That will get him in great form for a complete meltdown.

Decatur Deb Jul 6, 2016 • 7:55:19pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ivanka better hit him with the tranq gun. It’s better if Trump holds his shit together for two more weeks.

A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 7:55:48pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Edit the hosts files on any PCs he’s using and hijack the wifi so that twitter.com goes to localhost.

“Sorry, Mr. Trump, Twitter is down. We’ll, uh, let you know when it’s back.”

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 6, 2016 • 7:56:25pm

Like I said. https://t.co/GaWvgNN7cS

— David Axelrod (@davidaxelrod) July 7, 2016

The best thing @HillaryClinton may have going for her in navigating the email storm is @realDonaldTrump, who just can’t help but go too far.

— David Axelrod (@davidaxelrod) July 6, 2016

lawhawk Jul 6, 2016 • 7:56:27pm

re: #55 withak

And yet he’s ~this~ close to being President with the nuclear codes to obliterate all life on this planet as we know it. @pourmecoffee

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 7, 2016

Testy Toad T Jul 6, 2016 • 7:56:36pm

re: #55 withak

Edit the hosts files on any PCs he’s using and hijack the wifi so that twitter.com goes to localhost.

“Sorry, Mr. Trump, Twitter is down. We’ll, uh, let you know when it’s back.”

Can we elect Donald Trump to /dev/null?

Cheechako Jul 6, 2016 • 7:57:15pm

Fourth of July - Alaska Style - Cars on the Fly

Viscous Obama Jul 6, 2016 • 7:57:35pm

re: #51 Lidane

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If Trump’s twitter got hacked, would we even know?

KGxvi Jul 6, 2016 • 7:57:58pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

I hope that just before the GOP convention Elizabeth Warren unleashes a barrage of tweets against Trumplethinskin. That will get him in great form for a complete meltdown.

As if you need a series of tweets from Senator Warren… Just get a hashtag of trumpsbadhairday trending. That’ll be good for 20 minutes of rambling in his acceptance speech

The Vicious Babushka Jul 6, 2016 • 7:58:27pm

re: #60 Viscous Obama

If Trump’s twitter got hacked, would we even know?

It would start to make sense.

Skandal Jul 6, 2016 • 7:59:30pm

FWIW, I’ve heard Jews in Alaska* refer to themselves as the Frozen Chosen. *Both of them
— Mark Leibovich (@MarkLeibovich) July 7, 2016

jaunte Jul 6, 2016 • 8:00:43pm

Trump on six-pointed star tweet, says his staff “shouldn’t have taken it down.”
— Jeremy Diamond (@JDiamond1) July 6, 2016

Yeah who hired these idiots!? https://t.co/K14fUaXeI8

— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) July 7, 2016

Belafon Jul 6, 2016 • 8:04:51pm

re: #60 Viscous Obama

If Trump’s twitter got hacked, would we even know?

A computer based random tweet generator would only be pseudo-random.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jul 6, 2016 • 8:07:41pm

teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 8:08:13pm

Hey, here’s one from 2014 at just after 4:00 a.m.

“@automobilelens: If “The Donald” were in charge we would get enough oil to pay for the war and more! Try to Trump that cowboys!”

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 5, 2014

teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 8:09:28pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

Shit, I guess it was actually 10:00 a.m. in Scotland.

Jebediah, RBG Jul 6, 2016 • 8:10:30pm

re: #28 MsJ

I love the perpetual-belly-rub-please posture!

teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 8:11:08pm

BILLIONS! RIGHT NOW!!! ZOMG!!!

Instagram

Our billion dollar website-

Big Beautiful Door Jul 6, 2016 • 8:12:24pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hillary is sooo lucky that out of 17 GOP candidates for President the GOP is nominating the precise one least capable of exploiting her weaknesses.

kirkspencer Jul 6, 2016 • 8:13:25pm

re: #22 Shimshon

And almost 5 full pages of articles on Hillary submitted to reddits /politics. Unhinged and worried about the most meaningless things. Has the whole internet become nothing but partisan trolls and insane people?

Was it ever anything else?

Big Beautiful Door Jul 6, 2016 • 8:15:31pm

re: #60 Viscous Obama

If Trump’s twitter got hacked, would we even know?

If he started sounding sane it be a dead giveaway.

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 6, 2016 • 8:22:12pm

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

I ~~heart~~ star Daniel Lin. Even though he’s obviously an anti-Semite for mocking Herr Trumpenfuhrer.

Feline Fearless Leader Jul 6, 2016 • 8:23:03pm

Kragar Jul 6, 2016 • 8:25:54pm

ICYMI: @IAMTheRealRebel pic.twitter.com/lH8WKvJHYJ

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 7, 2016

Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 6, 2016 • 8:27:13pm

Kragar Jul 6, 2016 • 8:29:46pm

He booed Bernie?https://t.co/2KH4WYV0oO @OurRevolution2 @meliannos

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 7, 2016

jaunte Jul 6, 2016 • 8:30:15pm

Meanwhile, though, if you gave Trump a chance? It’s getting harder by the day to escape being judged by association. https://t.co/EcpvuAEZcf

— EricaGrieder (@EricaGrieder) July 7, 2016

A Texas Monthly editor is beginning to worry that Republicans will be judged harshly because of their association with Trump.

BeachDem Jul 6, 2016 • 8:30:49pm

GOP: Donald, we need to focus everything on the Hillary FBI finding. Donald? Donald?
TRUMP: Did you know Frozen had the Jewy star on it too?
— Jack Moore (@JackPMoore) July 7, 2016

Decatur Deb Jul 6, 2016 • 8:31:07pm

We apologise for the fault in the investigation. Those responsible are being investigated.

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 6, 2016 • 8:34:48pm

You go out for a couple of drinks with a colleague and come home to find the new hot-button issue is #Frozen. pic.twitter.com/1v83LV1exI

— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) July 7, 2016

Lidane Jul 6, 2016 • 8:35:40pm

re: #79 jaunte

She’s also the author of this article:

The conservative case for Hillary Clinton. https://t.co/fkmiEVZxZ9

— Texas Monthly (@TexasMonthly) June 6, 2016

freetoken Jul 6, 2016 • 8:35:45pm

Create your own slogan with the LGF Trump Bumper Sticker Generator! https://t.co/mYPssbueiO via @Green_Footballs pic.twitter.com/mRHHQvEU1J

— free token (@freetoken) July 7, 2016

Joe Bacon Jul 6, 2016 • 8:36:21pm

Isn’t that cute! Somebody put Trump’s latest speech to music…

Alfred E. Neuman - “It’s A Gas”

Anymouse Jul 6, 2016 • 8:45:06pm

Hey, I’m back you poor devils. Car is packed for tomorrow’s trip to Manitoba, and my shotgun has been delivered to the gun shop for safekeeping.

re: #43 Skip Intro

We don’t have mosquitos here on the Central Coast. That’s probably because we don’t have any water either.

We have the sand part in the Sandhills here. (::

re: #46 Belafon

It was so wet in April and May here in Rockwall that we didn’t have our usual June Bug infestation. The grub worms must have all drowned.

We are just starting to get June bugs now. It’s been raining every day for two weeks here (they call this area of Nebraska “arid”). Saw my first one attached in a death grip to my back screen when I went outside.

re: #79 jaunte

A Texas Monthly editor is beginning to worry that Republicans will be judged harshly because of their association with Trump.

They’re only now worrying about this?

re: #81 Decatur Deb

We apologise for the fault in the investigation. Those responsible are being investigated.

Sounds like the Monty Python movie with the editors sacking the graphics designers in the opening credits.

Shimshon Jul 6, 2016 • 8:52:44pm

Good on this guy for finally coming to his senses about what the GOP has become… but of course none of the other Trump rhetoric bothered him until the slander against Jews because he is Jewish. Typical conservative only cares about something that affects him

huffingtonpost.com

Belafon Jul 6, 2016 • 8:55:50pm

re: #87 Shimshon

Roosevelt had to work with Stalin until the end of the war.

Feline Fearless Leader Jul 6, 2016 • 8:55:51pm

Tiger Beetle

When you’re a fast, badass, predatory death machine - you can be as metallic green as you want.

Shimshon Jul 6, 2016 • 8:59:25pm

re: #88 Belafon

Roosevelt had to work with Stalin until the end of the war.

Defeating Hillary is like defeating Hitler in their eyes?

Pawn of the Oppressor Jul 6, 2016 • 9:02:00pm

re: #16 lawhawk

Trump knows his audience/supporters well. This is all to keep his supporters engaged and ignoring all of his faults. As much as other GOPers are handwringing, it’s not substantive problems that are keeping them at a distance, it’s style. Trump is undisciplined and incapable of self-analysis and improvement. He wants to portray strength, but it comes off as blustery buffoonery. Dumbassery if you will. His supporters love him for it. Reince and the other GOPers can only suck down industrial grade antacids to get through the election season.

How is Trump doing it? He’s got supporters/followers like Hoft doing his dirty work for him. Speaking of Hoft, he’s running the same playbook he ran with Ferguson:

Blame the victim of an officer-involved shooting:

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Make claims that are questionable or ignore the facts of the actual incident itself. Question the victim’s life choices and prior behavior and ignore the cops’ unjustified use of deadly force.

Shorter asshole translation:

“Neeclang shot on accident, but he deserved it because don’t they all, AMIRITE? LOL”

Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 6, 2016 • 9:05:47pm

re: #22 Shimshon

And almost 5 full pages of articles on Hillary submitted to reddits /politics. Unhinged and worried about the most meaningless things. Has the whole internet become nothing but partisan trolls and insane people?

Become?

Belafon Jul 6, 2016 • 9:10:04pm

re: #90 Shimshon

Defeating Hillary is like defeating Hitler in their eyes?

I was more tilting it in the “we’ll take any help in keeping Trump out of office” direction. If this guy doesn’t vote for Trump, then it helps our side.

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 6, 2016 • 9:13:44pm

Stanley Sea Jul 6, 2016 • 9:15:56pm

Good call. Stick with this one, it’s a real winner. pic.twitter.com/ePV5ME02F1

— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) July 7, 2016

A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 9:16:29pm

Graphic video shows black man bleeding after police shooting in Falcon Heights

This one hits a little too close to home. I can’t bear to watch the video.

Falcon Heights is a pretty nice area. It’s where the Minnesota State Fair takes place.

Viscous Obama Jul 6, 2016 • 9:17:32pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

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Post it again, big boy!

Feline Fearless Leader Jul 6, 2016 • 9:17:56pm

Insect Death Machine #2 - The Dragonfly

Did not get a good picture of the metallic green one. But they are out there too.

(Sorting photos from a hike last Saturday in New Jersey.)

retired cynic Jul 6, 2016 • 9:18:38pm

re: #98 Feline Fearless Leader

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Did not get a good picture of the metallic green one. But they are out there too.

(Sorting photos from a hike last Saturday in New Jersey.)

Among my favorites! Mosquito eating machines!

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Shimshon Jul 6, 2016 • 9:19:39pm

re: #92 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Become?

There was some sanity, people who were crazy against Obama were laughed at and they retreated to their Facebook walls or Free Republic and Stormfront. Now they have taken over every major website and become accepted as normal.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 6, 2016 • 9:20:42pm

I watched the Falcon Heights video. I’m not going to watch it again. It shows a man dying. His girlfriend states that he is a licensed conceal carry holder and announced as much to the officer.

It’s going to take a while to sort this one out. But this is just horrible.

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mmmirele Jul 6, 2016 • 9:20:59pm

re: #96 withak

Graphic video shows black man bleeding after police shooting in Falcon Heights

This one hits a little too close to home. I can’t bear to watch the video.

Falcon Heights is a pretty nice area. It’s where the Minnesota State Fair takes place.

I watched it. I started shaking when I realized the officer still had his gun trained on the woman after he’d shot her boyfriend and he was bleeding out. Then I started crying towards the end of the video when her little girl tried to comfort her momma, “It’s ok, I’m here with you.”

All over a busted tail light.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 9:22:05pm

re: #102 mmmirele

I watched it. I started shaking when I realized the officer still had his gun trained on the woman after he’d shot her boyfriend and he was bleeding out. Then I started crying towards the end of the video when her little girl tried to comfort her momma, “It’s ok, I’m here with you.”

All over a busted tail light.

Maybe a little more detail in the Star Tribune article. “Condition unknown” for the victim.

Fuck.

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retired cynic Jul 6, 2016 • 9:23:44pm

re: #102 mmmirele

I couldn’t watch this, or the one in Louisiana. Life too close to the edge. Those poor people.

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William Lewis Jul 6, 2016 • 9:27:38pm

re: #101 SoundGuy 2016

People got to understand that only white folks get to carry open or concealed. If you arent white a weapon simply paints a target on you for the cops. I wish this were hyperbole but its like stand your gound - only white folks get that right.

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mmmirele Jul 6, 2016 • 9:29:52pm

re: #104 retired cynic

I couldn’t watch this, or the one in Louisiana. Life too close to the edge. Those poor people.

I didn’t want to watch it. It was shocking, but it’s good that I did. I’m white, middle-aged and female. Cops don’t generally point guns at us, even when we get pulled over for pulling a crazy U-turn. [As I told my brother, if I had seen me do that U-turn, I would have pulled me over. I was completely wrong.] Just seeing that cop continuing to train his gun on the woman as her boyfriend bled out was incredibly shocking. It’s beyond my experience. I needed to know that.

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mmmirele Jul 6, 2016 • 9:31:51pm

His name was Philando Castile, he was 32 and he’s dead, according to this WCCO reporter.

Update: man shot by police in #FalconHeights died at HCMC. His mom identifies him as Philando Castile, 32 #wcco #cbs pic.twitter.com/OKxMP0VG65

— Jennifer Mayerle (@jennifermayerle) July 7, 2016

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 9:32:00pm

The victim has died.

Update: man shot by police in #FalconHeights died at HCMC. His mom identifies him as Philando Castile, 32 #wcco #cbs pic.twitter.com/OKxMP0VG65

— Jennifer Mayerle (@jennifermayerle) July 7, 2016

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 6, 2016 • 9:33:11pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Tranq gun? The dude needs massive doses of Clozaril.

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Stanley Sea Jul 6, 2016 • 9:34:02pm

my god

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 6, 2016 • 9:35:13pm

re: #105 William Lewis

People got to understand that only white folks get to carry open or concealed. If you arent white a weapon simply paints a target on you for the cops. I wish this were hyperbole but its like stand your gound - only white folks get that right.

As the melanin level increases, the probability that any motion by an armed man will be perceived by police as “reaching for it” approaches 1.

Also:

“Manitos: The Hands of Hate” #TrumpFilms

— Glock H. Palin, Esq. (@GlockPalin) July 7, 2016

Also also: what’s the preferred way to embed full sized images here?

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 6, 2016 • 9:35:42pm

re: #108 withak

…

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 9:38:28pm

re: #112 Eric The Fruit Bat

Why did they take him to HCMC-I think Regions was closer, and they’re Level 1 trauma?

About equidistant, according to some quick Googling. No idea on the capabilities of the hospitals.

I used to drive by that area all the time.

This is so fucked up. Jamar Clark all over again, but now there’s video.

I hope this time a cop is going to jail.

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whitebeach Jul 6, 2016 • 9:41:12pm

re: #111 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

As the melanin level increases, the probability that any motion ~~by an armed man~~ will be perceived by police as “reaching for it” approaches 1.

FTFY.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 6, 2016 • 9:41:12pm

re: #113 withak

HCMC is also Level 1 trauma. Damn. Star Tribune hasn’t updated their article yet.

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Kragar Jul 6, 2016 • 9:42:27pm

If #FalconHeightsShooting victim was licensed, where is NRA? Should be 1st to stand up & say he’s exercising 2nd amendment. Bet they don’t

— Trinity Best (@bballTrinity) July 7, 2016

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 6, 2016 • 9:44:59pm

Civil suit judgements for wrongful police shootings need to be taken directly out of that department’s pension plan. I have a sneaking suspicion that if shooting unarmed black people fucked over your fellow cops’ pocketbooks, we’d see a mysterious decline in their occurrence…

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 9:46:54pm

Chatter on Twitter indicates those that live in the area aren’t too happy with their police presence. More motivated by revenue than anything else — speed traps, etc.

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William Lewis Jul 6, 2016 • 9:49:51pm

re: #113 withak

Doubtful.

“You have the right not to be killed.
Murder is a crime!
Unless it was done by a policeman…”

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 6, 2016 • 9:50:02pm

re: #118 withak

Roseville is notorious for speedtraps on Route 36 between Snelling and I-35E-especially Sunday mornings. I’ve pulled late night shifts and when I leave at 6 AM there’s usually a cavalcade of Roseville cops just sitting on the median like vultures.

Oh yeah-the woman is in custody, too.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 6, 2016 • 9:51:16pm

I wonder what’s going to be funny about this one.

///

Sigh, humanity.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 6, 2016 • 9:53:35pm

any halfway competent politician would have taken care of this jewish star story in a day: we’re very sorry, it was a mistake, we’ve fired a low level staffer - done!

but donald, through his own effort, has managed to keep it alive for days

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Jenner7 Jul 6, 2016 • 9:55:04pm

What the fuck?!?!?!

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 9:56:30pm

re: #119 William Lewis

Doubtful.

“You have the right not to be killed.
Murder is a crime!
Unless it was done by a policeman…”

One can hope.

I broke down and watched some of the video. The difference in the level of calm between the fuckhead cop and the poor woman whose boyfriend’s just been murdered is astounding.

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Jenner7 Jul 6, 2016 • 9:57:28pm

Video is gone now.

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 9:57:57pm

The New York Daily News’ cover for tomorrow made me sad.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 9:58:46pm

re: #125 Jenner7

Forgot to mention: original video pulled. Mirror here:

Trigger Happy St. Paul Police Officer Shoots Man Reaching for His Wallet

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retired cynic Jul 6, 2016 • 9:59:49pm

re: #127 withak

Forgot to mention: original video pulled. Mirror here:

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Oh, no…..

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 6, 2016 • 10:00:27pm

re: #127 withak

The screengrab says what I need to know.

I can’t watch it.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 10:01:06pm

re: #129 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The screengrab says what I need to know.

I can’t watch it.

It’s rough. I’m shaking.

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Kragar Jul 6, 2016 • 10:01:36pm

The people who mock shooting victims and support killer cops are the same people lining up to support Trump.

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 7, 2016

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 6, 2016 • 10:04:27pm

Looks like the Justice Department is going to have another case to review if the BCA punts.

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TedStriker Jul 6, 2016 • 10:06:20pm

re: #127 withak

I think I’m going to throw up.

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Stanley Sea Jul 6, 2016 • 10:06:24pm

Why is the girlfriend in custody?

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 10:07:45pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

Trying to determine if that’s still the case.

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William Lewis Jul 6, 2016 • 10:09:48pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

Why is the girlfriend in custody?

Its called witness intimidation.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 6, 2016 • 10:10:47pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

Why is the girlfriend in custody?

One count of aggravated being-a-witness-to-police-brutality.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 10:10:54pm

Follow @StribJany for great reporting on this.

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Kragar Jul 6, 2016 • 10:16:14pm

White guy can walk down the street with an AK-47 while a black man is shot pulling out his license?

Fuck this shit. #FalconHeightsShooting

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 7, 2016

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 6, 2016 • 10:16:37pm

#FalconHeightsShooting is now the top trending hashtag on Twitter

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Single-handed sailor Jul 6, 2016 • 10:19:36pm

The girlfriend mentioned they had some weed on them.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 6, 2016 • 10:20:08pm

This fresh prince episode aired back in the 1993 and this issue is still relevant 😡 #FalconHeightsShooting pic.twitter.com/iPqN85i4dn

— DeMarko Gage :) (@DeMarko_Gage) July 7, 2016

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 10:21:27pm

re: #141 Single-handed sailor

The girlfriend mentioned they had some weed on them.

And this fact will be used by some people to justify the shooting.

Wonderful.

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TedStriker Jul 6, 2016 • 10:26:26pm

re: #140 Eric The Fruit Bat

#FalconHeightsShooting is now the top trending hashtage on Twitter

And this incident tonight is at least the second LEO-on-black “civilian” shooting deaths in as many days.

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 10:26:42pm

Spoiler Tags, people. Spoiler Tags.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 10:27:47pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

If you mean the video, sorry about that. Tired and pissed off.

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BeachDem Jul 6, 2016 • 10:28:32pm

re: #138 withak

Follow @StribJany for great reporting on this.

One of the stories I read said that the call in from the convenience store was about someone else entirely; that the convenience store guy knew him and said he would never go for his gun in that situation.

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TedStriker Jul 6, 2016 • 10:30:00pm

re: #141 Single-handed sailor

The girlfriend mentioned they had some weed on them.

re: #143 withak

And this fact will be used by some people to justify the shooting.

Wonderful.

How much do you wanna bet the cops use that little tidbit to lean on her about her boyfriend’s murder-by-cop and threaten to have her kid taken away from her?

You know, the same kid that I have to assume was in the backseat of that car when that cop blasted four lethal rounds into it.

Shit has to fucking stop.

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 10:31:03pm

Charles, an idea. We have a ‘private’ button to add the proper script for comments. A button for the ‘Spoiler’ script would make things easy to put things behind a community-involved warning label.

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TedStriker Jul 6, 2016 • 10:32:06pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

Charles, an idea. We have a ‘private’ button to add the proper script for comments. A button for the ‘Spoiler’ script would make things easy to put things behind a community-involved warning label.

I thought there already was?

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BeachDem Jul 6, 2016 • 10:33:32pm

re: #150 TedStriker

I thought there already was?

Click to Reveal

Some text here…

(hides contents until clicked)

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 6, 2016 • 10:34:27pm

re: #150 TedStriker

I thought there already was?

I think he’s just looking for a button in the button bar to make it easier for folks who might not remember the tag formatting. A one touch spoiler thing.

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InfidelOfFreedom Jul 6, 2016 • 10:34:39pm

No more cops investigating themselves. Independent prosecutors, preferably with civil rights background, need to be on every single killer cop case. This cannot fucking continue.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 6, 2016 • 10:35:09pm

This tweet is 17 hours old and still just as applicable.

Imagine if powerful white men were as vocally outraged about an innocent black person being shot as they are about improper use of email.

— OhNoSheTwitnt (@OhNoSheTwitnt) July 6, 2016

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TedStriker Jul 6, 2016 • 10:35:14pm

re: #151 BeachDem

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(hides contents until clicked)

I just reparsed what TSG was saying; he was asking Charles about making an “easy button” for spoilers, like he did for private comments.

Duh…

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 10:36:03pm

re: #150 TedStriker

I thought there already was?

The ‘Private’ tag is there, yes. Only registered users can see Private comments. Any old schmo can click on ‘Click to Reveal’ (used most often here for Breitbart comments) using the [ spoiler ] [ / spoiler ] tags. I just thought Charles could make a button. He’s a whiz at this shit, as you know.

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BeachDem Jul 6, 2016 • 10:36:29pm

re: #155 TedStriker

I just reparsed what teleski was saying; he was asking Charles about making an “easy button” for spoilers, like he did for private comments.

Duh…

And double duh from me.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 10:38:06pm

Castile’s cousin at the scene is saying that Castile had a permit to carry. Reportedly told the officer this, then reached for his permit.

— Libor Jany (@StribJany) July 7, 2016

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 10:39:56pm

This is a song called “Rocktopus.” It’s the third time they’ve played the song live. It’s the second time I’ve seen them play it.

Facebook Video

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 6, 2016 • 10:43:03pm

Okay, time for bed. Already up way too late.

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Anymouse Jul 6, 2016 • 10:45:10pm

Retired Major General Paul D. Eaton made an advert for VoteVets (linked in the article below) on why Donald Trump cannot be President.

General Eaton served as Hillary Clinton’s military advisor in her 2008 campaign, then switched to (then) Senator Obama after he locked up the Democratic nomination.

General Eaton served in the Iraq War, after which he became a vocal critic of President Bush when he retried. He was in the Army for thirty-six years.

addictinginfo.org

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 11:00:56pm

Hey, here’s an interesting one!

“@mimi_saulino: @mariclaire81 @realDonaldTrump Jeb supports open borders-common core- Visa H-IB Visa’s for illegals. Super PAC Saudis.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 17, 2015

You click on our random Trump Tweet button long enough you find some weird shit.

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unproven innocence Jul 6, 2016 • 11:01:04pm

re: #141 Single-handed sailor

The girlfriend mentioned they had some weed on them.

I expect the amount to increase quite a bit while the vehicle is impounded.

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 11:03:28pm

SAY WHAT?!?

Credibility is important to me- hence must admit that both candidates did really well last night. #VPDebate

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 12, 2012

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:05:37pm

Dumb people gonna dumb.

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:12:26pm

A nice list of self-declared socialist states. I’m sure all those states have/had things like high standard of living, education and health care.

Current

People’s Republic of China
Republic of Cuba
Lao People’s Democratic Republic
Socialist Republic of Vietnam

Former
Afghanistan
Albania
Angola
Benin
Bulgaria
Cambodia
Congo-Brazzaville
Czechoslovakia
Ethiopia
East Germany
Hungary
North Korea
Mongolia
Mozambique
Poland
Romania
Somalia
Russia / Soviet Union
North Vietnam
South Yemen
Yugoslavia

Current countries with constitutional references to socialism

People’s Republic of Bangladesh
Republic of Guinea-Bissau
Co-operative Republic of Guyana
Republic of India
Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal
Portuguese Republic
Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe
Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka
United Republic of Tanzania

Former

Algeria
Burma
Cape Verde
Egypt
Iraq
Libya
Madagascar
Seychelles
Sudan
Syria

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 11:13:56pm

re: #165 Nyet

Dumb people gonna dumb.

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:15:26pm

re: #166 Nyet

All those nice countries like Sweden and Germany? Capitalist.

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 11:20:50pm

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Anymouse Jul 6, 2016 • 11:21:16pm

(duplicate)

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Anymouse Jul 6, 2016 • 11:24:45pm

Car-packing done, tank full, Canadian money out on table (wife will take charge of that), rail and hotels confirmed, passports out.

Next stop, Devil’s Tower, Wyoming (probably late in the day tomorrow), followed by Saskatchewan. Front row seats to the GOP Convention via satellite in Churchill, Manitoba (that should be out of the blast radius).

Going through the same customs house as last year where the Canadian border official held us up while he checked our low-number registration to see if it was a stolen state vehicle (87). Also asked us if there were only eighty-seven cars in Nebraska. Hope to meet that guy again.

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Dave In Austin Jul 6, 2016 • 11:26:18pm

re: #171 Anymouse

Take lots of bear pics to share…..

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unproven innocence Jul 6, 2016 • 11:28:17pm

#FalconHeights: Philando Castile shot dead by police on camera “for no reason at all” Excerpt:

An observer, Katherine Bleth, who lives across the street, told reporters she was driving home with a friend when she saw the crime scene “right in front of me.” “Cop cars were rushing past us, we knew something was wrong,” she said.

Her video of the scene is below.

Falcon Heights, MN: Cop pulled over & shot black man. Brought to hospital. Upsetting footage. Across from my apt. pic.twitter.com
— skeletal trash lord (@skeletontrash) July 7, 2016

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:28:33pm

re: #169 teleskiguy

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Tigger2 Jul 6, 2016 • 11:29:54pm

re: #143 withak

And this fact will be used by some people to justify the shooting.

Wonderful.

In that case following that logic some will have, a lot of white kids need shot when cops stop them because a lot of them also carry weed.

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 11:31:56pm

Damn. I’m impressed. A weirdo’s weirdo.

John Waters, 1970s pic.twitter.com/oosX1L9VtP

— OnThisDay & Facts (@NotableHistory) July 7, 2016

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:32:56pm

thelocal.dk

Speaking at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, Danish PM Lars Løkke Rasmussen told students that he had “absolutely no wish to interfere the presidential debate in the US” but nonetheless attempted to set the record straight about his country.

“I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy,” Rasmussen said.

“The Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security for its citizens, but it is also a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish,” he added.

Basic stuff. Welfare state does not equal socialism.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 6, 2016 • 11:34:18pm

re: #166 Nyet

A nice list of self-declared socialist states. I’m sure all those states have/had things like high standard of living, education and health care.

Care to apply the same logic to countries with “democratic” or “republic” in the name?

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:34:20pm

re: #177 Nyet

thelocal.dk

Basic stuff. Welfare state does not equal socialism.

After all if it did, Nazi Germany would have to be called socialist.

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:35:28pm

re: #178 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Care to apply the same logic to countries with “democratic” or “republic” in the name?

What logic? I think you’re missing the point. But then again, you often do.

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Dave In Austin Jul 6, 2016 • 11:36:00pm

re: #176 teleskiguy

He cleaned up strangely…..

I always enjoy his interviews.

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Shimshon Jul 6, 2016 • 11:36:34pm

re: #166 Nyet

A nice list of self-declared socialist states. I’m sure all those states have/had things like high standard of living, education and health care.

What does it matter what a country declares itself? If you want to debate Socialism you have to look at their economic policies. Otherwise we can go down the list of countries that call themselves Democratic, like North Korea, and come to the conclusion that Democracy is bad.

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Anymouse Jul 6, 2016 • 11:37:05pm

re: #172 Dave In Austin

Take lots of bear pics to share…..

We have a Flickr account to view pictures. We will post them there.

It currently has the pictures we took last year from Regina, Saskatchewan; Schwabisch Gmund, Germany; and Gdansk, Poland.

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Shimshon Jul 6, 2016 • 11:37:40pm

I had sort of high hopes for Declassified on CNN. The first episode was interesting about the Cold War, and Episode 2 was how bad Saddam was so the war was okay, and now episode 3 was about ISIS and how bad they are. Too bad this series turned into propaganda, I shouldn’t be surprised, it is CNN, the war network.

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Teukka Jul 6, 2016 • 11:37:45pm

re: #179 Nyet

After all if it did, Nazi Germany would have to be called socialist.

Cue “The ideology was called national socialism!!! Duuuuuh!!! 111ty111!!!”
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve had to face that.

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:38:29pm

re: #182 Shimshon

What does it matter what a country declares itself? If you want to debate Socialism you have to look at their economic policies. Otherwise we can go down the list of countries that call themselves Democratic, like North Korea, and come to the conclusion that Democracy is bad.

Ah sure, “socialism can’t fail, it can only be failed”. You are free to argue that some of those states were not truly socialist, but what states not on the list are?

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teleskiguy Jul 6, 2016 • 11:39:36pm

re: #174 Nyet

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It’s the skiing. That shit never gets old.

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:40:51pm

re: #185 Teukka

Cue “The ideology was called national socialism!!! Duuuuuh!!! 111ty111!!!”
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve had to face that.

Indeed. Ignorant people arguing that certain Western European countries with a high standard of living are “socialist” are basically accepting the American right-wing framing. In which, unsurprisingly, Nazi Germany is also socialist.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 6, 2016 • 11:40:55pm

re: #176 teleskiguy

Damn. I’m impressed. A weirdo’s weirdo.

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It’s like Nick Cave and Hunter S. Thompson had a baby.

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Kragar Jul 6, 2016 • 11:41:02pm

https://t.co/wlB1Xh2Ujj

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 7, 2016

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Anymouse Jul 6, 2016 • 11:42:21pm

re: #185 Teukka

Cue “The ideology was called national socialism!!! Duuuuuh!!! 111ty111!!!”
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve had to face that.

Democratic Republic of Congo
People’s Democratic Republic of Korea
Republic of Yemen
Republic of Libya
Republic of Laos

We could go on, but you get the idea.

Meanwhile, such places as the Kindgom of Denmark, the Kingdom of Norway, the Kingdom of Sweden, the Principality of Monaco, the Kingdom of Spain, &c all include many socialist elements in their countries (like health care and universal education for their citizens).

From #182:
Ah sure, “socialism can’t fail, it can only be failed”. You are free to argue that some of those states were not truly socialist, but what states not on the list are?

So are you willing to argue that “Republicanism can’t fail, it can only be failed?”

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:44:32pm

re: #191 Anymouse

They include social elements. That doesn’t make them socialist countries. Not by a long shot.

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Anymouse Jul 6, 2016 • 11:46:31pm

re: #192 Nyet

They include social elements. That doesn’t make them socialist countries. Not by a long shot.

It certainly doesn’t make them libertarian paradises either. That would be Somalia (which is a republic).

An awful lot of people on the right don’t seem to understand Adam Smith’s argument about the “invisible hand of the market.” That invisible hand was government regulation.

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:47:29pm

re: #193 Anymouse

It certainly doesn’t make them libertarian paradises either.

Since nobody in this thread has made or defended this thesis, I’m not sure why you felt obliged to respond to it.

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Teukka Jul 6, 2016 • 11:50:28pm

re: #188 Nyet

Indeed. Ignorant people arguing that certain Western European countries with a high standard of living are “socialist” are basically accepting the American right-wing framing. In which, unsurprisingly, Nazi Germany is also socialist.

The thing is that what little left wing there was in the National Socialist German Workers Party (which began it’s existence as the German Workers Party BTW), the Strasserites, was purged during the Night of the Long Knives, together with significant portions of the NSDAP paramilitary wing, the SA, and although historians vary on on the cause, I would wager it had to do with them having outlived their purpose and being dangerous because they knew too much.

It’s a pattern I’ve noticed with regards to fascism, it can begin anywhere on the religio-political spectrum, but once secure in power, it always goes hard right, at most retaining symbolic “leftism”.

re: #191 Anymouse

Democratic Republic of Congo
People’s Democratic Republic of Korea
Republic of Yemen
Republic of Libya
Republic of Laos

We could go on, but you get the idea.

Meanwhile, such places as the Kindgom of Denmark, the Kingdom of Norway, the Kingdom of Sweden, the Principality of Monaco, the Kingdom of Spain, &c all include many socialist elements in their countries (like health care and universal education for their citizens).

Also, Republic of Finland.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 6, 2016 • 11:51:50pm

re: #180 Nyet

What logic?

Hey, you said it, not me.

(Also, why is it every time I see you you’re being an asshole?)

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Anymouse Jul 6, 2016 • 11:51:59pm

re: #194 Nyet

Since nobody in this thread has made or defended this thesis, I’m not sure why you felt obliged to respond to it.

Somalia’s official name is the Republic of Somalia.

When its previous government was overthrown, the CATO Institute insisted it would become a “libertarian utopia” and be a growth engine of the free market.

That worked right up until the time that people with big guns mounted on Toyotas overthrew its republican style, libertarian government.

Pinochet’s Chile was also aligned on allegedly libertarian lines (and unsurprisingly, the Republic of Chile).

They claimed to be libertarian, in the same way North Korea claims to be a democratic republic. The example is valid, in that what the country claims to be is not necessarily what it is.

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:52:04pm

I have lived under (Soviet) socialism, under wild (Russian) capitalism and under socially responsible European capitalism. I think I know which system I prefer…

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goddamnedfrank Jul 6, 2016 • 11:52:05pm

They just can’t help themselves.

@smoothkobra @LaurenWern pic.twitter.com/roPTnxxt8S

— Billy Depp (@ucla_007) July 7, 2016

@smoothkobra @LaurenWern -Racist? It’s truth you can’t accept. Why did Alton have a gun? Why did he threaten another man & resist cops?

— Billy Depp (@ucla_007) July 7, 2016

Pretends he’s not racist, then calls a black man “boy” to really hammer the point home. https://t.co/886bN8avp0

— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) July 7, 2016

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Anymouse Jul 6, 2016 • 11:55:40pm

re: #198 Nyet

I have lived under (Soviet) socialism, under wild (Russian) capitalism and under socially responsible European capitalism. I think I know which system I prefer…

My sister in law worked as an immunologist in the Soviet Union * she is originally a Soviet citizen. She then saw the rise of the oligarchs there after the government changed.

She later married my brother in law and now lives in Texas.

She insists as soon as he retires from teaching, they get the hell out of Texas, as of the three forms of government she has lived under, the Republic of Texas is the most dictatorial.

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Kragar Jul 6, 2016 • 11:56:10pm

it’s crazy how the police successfully arrested all these people without killing them #FalconHeightsShooting pic.twitter.com/Y92hhSN4Jn

— ‏عائشه (@yslniaII) July 7, 2016

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Kragar Jul 6, 2016 • 11:57:25pm

Strange how certain “pro-gun” guys immediately go looking for dirt when a legally-armed black man is gunned down. pic.twitter.com/7UPsYZcYr4

— Asher Langton (@AsherLangton) July 7, 2016

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Nyet Jul 6, 2016 • 11:58:46pm

re: #200 Anymouse

With all respect to the US, I think I would never want to move to you guys.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 12:00:45am

re: #194 Nyet

Since nobody in this thread has made or defended this thesis, I’m not sure why you felt obliged to respond to it.

Says the guy who just put “socialism cannot fail, it can only be failed” in someone else’s mouth.

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Kragar Jul 7, 2016 • 12:00:57am

Its weird how fast Trump supporting gun owners are able to excuse the killing of a black man. #FalconHeightsShooting pic.twitter.com/ZwLt0RdwLr

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 7, 2016

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 12:01:33am

re: #203 Nyet

With all respect to the US, I think I would never want to move to you guys.

I’ll try to contain my disappointment.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:02:03am

re: #204 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

You’re being true to your name.

a paid teacher of philosophy and rhetoric in ancient Greece, associated in popular thought with moral skepticism and specious reasoning.
a person who reasons with clever but fallacious arguments.

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 12:02:31am

re: #203 Nyet

With all respect to the US, I think I would never want to move to you guys.

Well, I don’t know where you live; there are a lot of good things about my country and I want to work to make them better.

Nevertheless, being in northern Canada during the GOP convention now looks like a very good idea. (My wife decided on going there precisely because of the Dumpster fire the GOP primaries were. She wanted to be out of the blast radius as she puts it.)

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:02:46am

re: #206 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

I’ll try to contain my dissapointment.

I have already noticed that you’re an asshole, not need to try and prove it to me again.

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Teukka Jul 7, 2016 • 12:02:58am

re: #203 Nyet

With all respect to the US, I think I would never want to move to you guys.

Me neither. Too many opportunities for economic ruin beyond my control, as if a significant portion of the legislature being at least fascistoid wouldn’t be enough.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 7, 2016 • 12:05:14am

re: #198 Nyet

I have lived under (Soviet) socialism, under wild (Russian) capitalism and under socially responsible European capitalism. I think I know which system I prefer…

it is most unfortunate imho that there are two very different governing philosophies that are both called socialist (forgetting about the additional confusion over nazis for a second)

personally i insist on clear definitions: state socialists who nationalize all industry and ban private enterprise, vs democratic socialism which is merely the capitalist economy moderated by e.g. government run pensions and health insurance schemes examples of which would include practically every nation on earth

i am startled to find among wingnuts however even greater chasms of ignorance than i had thought possible. some, so far from accusing democrats of wanting to nationalise industry or ban private enterprise, actually think socialism consists of government regulations food stamps, and reacted with disbelief when i described the nationalization of industry and collectivisation of agriculture under stalin and mao

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Dave In Austin Jul 7, 2016 • 12:06:28am

re: #198 Nyet

I have lived under (Soviet) socialism, under wild (Russian) capitalism and under socially responsible European capitalism. I think I know which system I prefer…

(Sergey correct SP?) where are you living today if I might ask?

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:08:55am

re: #211 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

This is a tactic used by your wingnuts to prevent any sort of state social responsibility. “If we have universal healthcare, we’ll be socialist just like USSR - remember GULAG?”. Bait and switch. Which is why associating welfare state with socialism is a bad idea even coming from the left. Capitalism can be made socially responsible without turning the whole system into a socialist one.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 12:09:10am

re: #207 Nyet

You’re being true to your name.

Uh huh. You complained about people addressing an argument nobody made within minutes of attacking an argument nobody made. You’re a hypocrit.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:09:17am

re: #212 Dave In Austin

Somewhere in Europe. :)

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Dave In Austin Jul 7, 2016 • 12:12:04am

re: #215 Nyet

Not trying to pry, I was just wondering if you were still in Russia? I’ll leave it at that.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 12:12:10am

re: #213 Nyet

Capitalism can be made socially responsible without turning the whole system into a socialist one.

Please point out who here suggested such a thing? You know, as long as we’re complaining about addressing arguments nobody made…

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 12:15:37am

re: #215 Nyet

Somewhere in Europe. :)

That narrows it down. (:: Small spot from Ireland to the Urals. (::

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:16:40am

re: #214 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Uh huh. You complained about people addressing an argument nobody made within minutes of attacking an argument nobody made. You’re a hypocrit.

Dismissing a list of countries that self-identify as socialist on the basis of a fallacious analogy to some non-democratic countries calling themselves democratic (fallacious because while the list of self-id dem. countries will include bad players, it will also include a huge percentage of good players; whereas the list of self-id socialist states seems mostly to include countries one wouldn’t want to live in) basically amounted to saying that those countries, which represent most of the historical socialist development, are not true socialist countries (without any analysis to support this thesis btw), and since my opponent also insisted on the existence of some true socialist states with a high standard of living somewhere in the world (that was in an older thread), the whole amounts to “socialism can’t fail, it can only be failed”.

This seems intuitively clear, though maybe not for someone as dim as you.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:17:22am

re: #217 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Please point out who here suggested such a thing?

Wingnuts. Not here.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:19:15am

re: #220 Nyet

Wingnuts. Not here.

(Actually, a lot of BernieBros too, again, not here.)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 12:19:15am

re: #171 Anymouse

Car-packing done, tank full, Canadian money out on table (wife will take charge of that), rail and hotels confirmed, passports out.

Next stop, Devil’s Tower, Wyoming (probably late in the day tomorrow), followed by Saskatchewan. Front row seats to the GOP Convention via satellite in Churchill, Manitoba (that should be out of the blast radius).

Going through the same customs house as last year where the Canadian border official held us up while he checked our low-number registration to see if it was a stolen state vehicle (87). Also asked us if there were only eighty-seven cars in Nebraska. Hope to meet that guy again.

You’re driving the SmartCar, right? Let us know how that experience is.

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Dave In Austin Jul 7, 2016 • 12:20:31am

re: #217 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Please point out who here suggested such a thing? You know, as long as we’re complaining about addressing arguments nobody made…

Guys I think that’s a true statement. Wingnuts Who “want their country back” Seem to yearn for the time of the 50’s and 60’s when the US was having a post war boom to the society we have turned into and when infrastructure was part of the public good. That’s what they yearn for but don’t want to pay the taxes that took us to that point. Our infrastructure of that time was what Nyet described. at least that’s how I see it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 7, 2016 • 12:22:52am

i have often been tempted to move to europe which i guess is an common and longstanding disease of americans but i find when i am actually there little differences in attitudes and the way things work e.g. ‘there you go why do americans always have to bring money into it?’ remind me that perhaps im too provincially amurican for this sort of thing

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 12:23:08am

re: #222 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You’re driving the SmartCar, right? Let us know how that experience is.

Well, we drove it last year.

When we took the car for its 40,000 mile service last week to Denver, I asked how come Mercedes hasn’t asked us to pose for adverts, since we’ve driven the darn thing all over North America. They are also aware that we hit a deer at sixty miles per hour (because we took it in to have it inspected). Deer totalled, car undamaged. Advert for the car being tough as well.

In addition, my wife and I haven’t killed each other being trapped in a Smart on the trips to Oklahoma, Arkansas, Saskatchewan, &c. That ought to count for something. /s

This time around they changed a part not usually changed in regular maintenance (the internal air conditioner vent filter). Turns out driving it on dirt roads all the time due to where we live clogs that thing. The air conditioner works much better now.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 12:28:11am

re: #213 Nyet

This is a tactic used by your wingnuts to prevent any sort of state social responsibility. “If we have universal healthcare, we’ll be socialist just like USSR - remember GULAG?”. Bait and switch. Which is why associating welfare state with socialism is a bad idea even coming from the left. Capitalism can be made socially responsible without turning the whole system into a socialist one.

Also, this whole argument is nonsense. Republicans are going to call anything short of feudalism “socialist”, so there’s no point in trying to run away from it. And if you do manage to dissassociate those programs from the term “socialism”, they’ll just find some other angle of attack to whip their base into a frenzy over. It’s not the label they object to, it’s the idea. Did democratic ideas suddenly become more achievable because Democrats ran away from the word “liberal”? No, they did not. Running away from “socialism” will have roughly the same effect.

“Republicans will attack you” is almost never a compelling argument for not doing something. They’re going to attack anything worth doing.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Jul 7, 2016 • 12:28:20am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

Guys I think that’s a true statement. Wingnuts Who “want their country back” Seem to yearn for the time of the 50’s and 60’s when the US was having a post war boom to the society we have turned into and when infrastructure was part of the public good. That’s what they yearn for but don’t want to pay the taxes that took us to that point. Our infrastructure of that time was what Nyet described. at least that’s how I see it.

well the 90% top rate & etc certainly helped to keep things in balance but also it has really fucked up the american dream that housing, healthcare, and education costs have gone up more than five times as fast as incomes in the past 30 years, not to mention now most families need two incomes to survive and no daycare at work how is this all supposed to work?

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 12:31:00am

re: #219 Nyet

This seems intuitively clear, though maybe not for someone as dim as you.

Tell me again about how I’m the one who doesn’t need to keep proving I’m an asshole.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 12:31:03am

re: #225 Anymouse

Well, we drove it last year.

When we took the car for its 40,000 mile service last week to Denver, I asked how come Mercedes hasn’t asked us to pose for adverts, since we’ve driven the darn thing all over North America. They are also aware that we hit a deer at sixty miles per hour (because we took it in to have it inspected). Deer totalled, car undamaged. Advert for the car being tough as well.

In addition, my wife and I haven’t killed each other being trapped in a Smart on the trips to Oklahoma, Arkansas, Saskatchewan, &c. That ought to count for something. /s

This time around they changed a part not usually changed in regular maintenance (the internal air conditioner vent filter). Turns out driving it on dirt roads all the time due to where we live clogs that thing. The air conditioner works much better now.

How does it ride? I’d assume a short wheelbase car might be a bit bumpy on rough roads. And how about gas mileage?

M-B really ought to use you in an advert. Most people figure a SmartCar is an urban commuter car, not a highway cruiser. You’d dispel that notion.

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TK-421 Jul 7, 2016 • 12:31:34am

Here. Have a Gandhi caganer.

If anyone needs a caganer, it’s CCJ.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:32:11am

re: #226 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Also, this whole argument is nonsense. Republicans are going to call anything short of feudalism “socialist”, so there’s no point in trying to run away from it. And if you do manage to dissassociate those programs from the term “socialism”, they’ll just find some other angle of attack to whip their base into a frenzy over. It’s not the label they object to, it’s the idea. Did democratic ideas suddenly become more achievable because Democrats ran away from the word “liberal”? No, they did not. Running away from “socialism” will have roughly the same effect.

“Republicans will attack you” is almost never a compelling argument for not doing something. They’re going to attack anything worth doing.

You’re free to play into their hands. I think it’s a bad idea. *shrug*

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goddamnedfrank Jul 7, 2016 • 12:32:11am

@allanbrauer Do you know how to be nice? I dont get women pregnant, that would give them control over me. Men have no reproductive rights.

— Brent English (@EngBrent) July 7, 2016

Gen Ripper: I do not avoid women, Mandrake.

Capt Mandrake: No.

Gen Ripper: But I … I do deny them my essence. https://t.co/JslrebJvTt

— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) July 7, 2016

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:33:21am

re: #228 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Tell me again about how I’m the one who doesn’t need to keep proving I’m an asshole.

I’ll make the killer toddler argument: you started it. Now go stand in the corner and think about what you did.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 12:35:00am

re: #220 Nyet

Wingnuts. Not here.

re: #221 Nyet

(Actually, a lot of BernieBros too, again, not here.)

Not in dog’s post either, which was what you were responding to.

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 12:35:01am

re: #229 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

How does it ride? I’d assume a short wheelbase car might be a bit bumpy on rough roads. And how about gas mileage?

M-B really ought to use you in an advert. Most people figure a SmartCar is an urban commuter car, not a highway cruiser. You’d dispel that notion.

I have a photo of the car parked on the primitive road next to Courthouse and Jail Rocks.

It rides about as well as you might expect for a short wheelbase car that is fairly light: firmly. On bumpy roads (all of them Katie around here), you just don’t drive very fast; we do have three or four paved ones in this county.

On the Interstate, I have a problem with a lead foot sometimes (the first time I drove the car home, I had it up to ninety-five before I realised I was -ah- speeding just a bit).

We get better mileage than Smart advertises: We get about fifty miles per gallon with the air conditioner on (our general store owner really hates our car since he sells us so little gasoline) on the highway. I don’t have a very good figure for city mileage since we have no cities and are only rarely in Cheyenne or Denver.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:36:40am

re: #234 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Not in dog’s post either, which was what you were responding to.

I was referring to actual wingnuts saying this. You know they’ve been saying this.

Whereas nobody has ever argued that European socially responsible capitalist countries are libertarian paradises. You truly are a sophist.

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TK-421 Jul 7, 2016 • 12:37:28am

Only downside of Canada this time of year are the mosquitoes. They might be ferocious. Nothing a copious amount of DEET can’t take care of though. Hope you have a great trip and drive safe!

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 12:38:44am

re: #237 TK-421

Only downside of Canada this time of year are the mosquitoes. They might be ferocious. Nothing a copious amount of DEET can’t take care of though. Hope you have a great trip and drive safe!

Thanks. There is another Smart owner in our county (the county attorney). His Smart is older than ours, but he drives it everywhere around here as well.

He mentioned he is off to Denver next week to get its 140,000 mile service.

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VaughnIAM Jul 7, 2016 • 12:41:26am

re: #156 teleskiguy

The ‘Private’ tag is there, yes. Only registered users can see Private comments

I can’t read private comments until I have made at least 10 comments. That’s what the pop up said the first time I tried to see a private comment.

I’m more of a reader than a commenter so it will probably be a while before I read any private comments.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 12:42:38am

re: #235 Anymouse

I have a photo of the car parked on the primitive road next to Courthouse and Jail Rocks.

It rides about as well as you might expect for a short wheelbase car that is fairly light: firmly. On bumpy roads (all of them Katie around here), you just don’t drive very fast; we do have three or four paved ones in this county.

On the Interstate, I have a problem with a lead foot sometimes (the first time I drove the car home, I had it up to ninety-five before I realised I was -ah- speeding just a bit).

We get better mileage than Smart advertises: We get about fifty miles per gallon with the air conditioner on (our general store owner really hates our car since he sells us so little gasoline) on the highway. I don’t have a very good figure for city mileage since we have no cities and are only rarely in Cheyenne or Denver.

Thanks for the info. I’m not really in the market for a car now, but SmartCar would be an option for the future. Most of my previous autos have been smallish, most recently a Geo/Suzuki Metro/Swift, and I’ve never really felt the need for a larger car for cross-country travel. I mistrust cars that isolate you from the road too much..

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 12:46:06am

re: #240 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks for the info. I’m not really in the market for a car now, but SmartCar would be an option for the future. Most of my previous autos have been smallish, most recently a Geo/Suzuki Metro/Swift, and I’ve never really felt the need for a larger car for cross-country travel. I mistrust cars that isolate you from the road too much..

I don’t need a battlewagon for the highway either.

All of my cars have been small, the largest car I ever owned was a 1977 Citroen GS when I lived in Spain, and a 1987 Nissan Sentra (that I also had in Spain). The Citroen was a lot easier to get parts for there.

My first car was a 1976 Vega Nomad, which I sold after it had nearly 250,000 miles on it.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 12:46:32am

re: #231 Nyet

You’re free to play into their hands. I think it’s a bad idea. *shrug*

Because totally ceding to them the power to define what “socialism” is and what it means has worked out great over the last 30 years, right? Shrieking and fleeing like vampires before the sun in order to avoid being labeled “socialist” and thereby giving them a powerful rhetorical weapon to use against us has been a stunning success, has it?

Or maybe it has, and I’m just too dim too see it?

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 12:47:39am

re: #242 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Because totally ceding to them the power to define what “socialism” is and what it means has worked out great over the last 30 years, right? Shrieking and fleeing like vampires before the sun in order to avoid being labeled “socialist” and thereby giving them a powerful rhetorical weapon to use against us has been a stunning success, has it?

Or maybe it has, and I’m just too dim too see it?

Well, I am not really involved in this conversation, though I’ve followed it.

We also ceded the terms “pro-life” and “family values,” neither of which they are.

(Also to a lesser extent, patriot).

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:50:43am

re: #242 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Because totally ceding to them the power to define what “socialism” is and what it means has worked out great over the last 30 years, right?

Speaking of putting words into other peoples’ mouths (and, by extension, of hypocrisy…)

In fact I’m saying exactly the opposite: they have tried - partially successfully in what concerns the American political discourse field - to define welfare state as socialism. It’s those who want to continue to use this wingnut definition that are ceding the power to define what socialism is to the wingnuts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 12:52:09am

So now the discussion has gone down the Disney rabbit hole. Let us get back to praising DT’s extensive legislative and policy-making background and his long history of elective and public service…

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 12:53:19am

re: #233 Nyet

I’ll make the killer toddler argument: you started it. Now go stand in the corner and think about what you did.

/

My first comment to you in this thread:

re: #178 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Care to apply the same logic to countries with “democratic” or “republic” in the name?

Your first comment to me in this thread:

re: #180 Nyet

What logic? I think you’re missing the point. But then again, you often do.

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 12:54:35am

Well, it’s been real (something). I need to jump in the shower and hit the rack for tomorrow’s road trip (first leg, Devil’s Tower, then Saskatchewan). Gotta keep the press confused tomorrow about who in this little town won the Mega Millions (the fix is in for me).

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 12:55:02am

re: #246 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

My first comment to you in this thread:

Your first comment to me in this thread:

And who made the rule that context consists of one thread only? It’s not like I forgot your completely uncalled for downdings in an older thread. Hence the bolded part.

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William Lewis Jul 7, 2016 • 12:59:18am

re: #243 Anymouse

Well, I am not really involved in this conversation, though I’ve followed it.

We also ceded the terms “pro-life” and “family values,” neither of which they are.

(Also to a lesser extent, patriot).

To be a radical is, in the best and only decent sense of the word, patriotic.
- Michael Harrington

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 1:00:11am

re: #240 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks for the info. I’m not really in the market for a car now, but SmartCar would be an option for the future. Most of my previous autos have been smallish, most recently a Geo/Suzuki Metro/Swift, and I’ve never really felt the need for a larger car for cross-country travel. I mistrust cars that isolate you from the road too much..

I have a friend in Switzerland; when we were in Germany we were at a conference he also attended.

I noted the huge number of Smart cars on the roads in Schwabisch Gmund; he said they are quite common in German cities. He could not believe that we own one way out here in the Nebraska outback (apparently, folk over there think they are only city cars as well).

When we went to the conference in Little Rock a couple years ago, he was amazed that we drove it all the way from here.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 1:00:58am

re: #244 Nyet

Speaking of putting words into other peoples’ mouths (and, by extension, of hypocrisy…)

In fact I’m saying exactly the opposite: they have tried - partially successfully in what concerns the American political discourse field - to define welfare state as socialism. It’s those who want to continue to use this wingnut definition that are ceding the power to define what socialism is to the wingnuts.

Since when is that a “wingnut definition”? There are plenty of non-wingnuts both now and in the past who feel that a welfare state is a socialist aspect of a partially socialist government. Like dog in this very thread, for example. You seem to be asserting that any mixture of capitalist and socialist policies must be called capitalism, and that only completely socialist countries can have that word applied to them in any context.

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 1:07:36am

Texas blocked 2nd trimester abortion numbers for 2014 because they undermined their Supreme Court argument for HB-2 (the TRAP law now struck down).

nbcnews.com

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist) Jul 7, 2016 • 1:10:00am

re: #248 Nyet

And who made the rule that context consists of one thread only? It’s not like I forgot your completely uncalled for downdings in an older thread. Hence the bolded part.

What, you mean the downdings from the other day (that I had already went back and undone, by the by)? Yeah, me dinging a couple posts because you kept throwing out stuff like “lol, no true Scotsman” like a PHIL 101 student who just learned about logical fallacies yesterday and it irked me really gives you good cause to say I’m dumb.

What-fucking-ever, I’m done talking to you now. Goodnight.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 1:10:39am

re: #251 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Since when is that a “wingnut definition”? There are plenty of non-wingnuts both now and in the past who feel that a welfare state is a socialist aspect of a partially socialist government. Like dog in this very thread, for example. You seem to be asserting that any mixture of capitalist and socialist policies must be called capitalism, and that only completely socialist countries can have that word applied to them in any context.

That many Americans think so supports my point, not yours. Historically, there is nothing inherently socialist about welfare state. I think dog confused democratic socialism with social democracy.

You’re free to call the Nazi Germany (a welfare state) socialist, if you wish to, of course.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 1:12:37am

re: #253 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

What, you mean the downdings from the other day (that I had already went back and undone, by the by)? Yeah, me dinging a couple posts because you kept throwing out stuff like “lol, no true Scotsman” like a PHIL 101 student who just learned about logical fallacies yesterday and it irked me really gives you good cause to say I’m dumb.

What-fucking-ever, I’m done talking to you now. Goodnight.

Yes, the downdings (that were left on random completely innocent comments) that I never saw you explain when called out for them in that thread. The ones that show that missing the point is nothing new for you.

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Anymouse Jul 7, 2016 • 1:26:27am

Large thump outside on my back porch while I was in the shower. Went out naked to scare whoever it was off (I also use that ploy when out of town evangelists come to my door - works wonders as they run away). Didn’t see anyone.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 1:36:04am

Here is a nuanced article on the issues under discussion.

theatlantic.com

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 1:39:09am

re: #253 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

me dinging a couple posts because you kept throwing out stuff like “lol, no true Scotsman” like a PHIL 101 student who just learned about logical fallacies yesterday and it irked me

Here is one of the comments you dinged (later undinged):

littlegreenfootballs.com

Is there any untrue point there? None that I can discern. So seems like you missed the point of the comment after all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 1:48:47am

re: #257 Nyet

Here is a nuanced article on the issues under discussion.

theatlantic.com

Seems to me that “socialism” still has an incredibly negative connotation when used by a lot of Americans, especially the frothing small-government Free Traders. Rest of the world does not tend to see in that light.

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Alyosha Jul 7, 2016 • 1:58:30am

Head of ADL @JGreenblattADL: “Just so we’re clear, the image originated with a white supremacist — not with Disney animators in Burbank.”

— Jeremy Diamond (@JDiamond1) July 7, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 2:07:59am

re: #260 Alyosha

Head of J Greenblatt of ADL: “Just so we’re clear, the image originated with a white supremacist — not with Disney animators in Burbank.”

This is a key nuance.

A bit like the story with “Stairway to Heaven” and “Taurus”…it is easy to say they are just two songs that sound similar until you look at the history of the bands and find that they once toured together and that Jimmy page took a particular interest in that song…

Only an idiot could look at the provenance of that image and deny its anti-Semitic message.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 2:10:26am

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Seems to me that “socialism” still has an incredibly negative connotation when used by a lot of Americans, especially the frothing small-government Free Traders. Rest of the world does not tend to see in that light.

And that’s why it’s good politics in America not to associate welfare state - which is not inherently socialist and was present under various political systems, democratic and authoritarian, left and right - with socialism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 2:12:44am

re: #262 Nyet

And that’s why it’s good politics not to associate welfare state - which is not inherently socialist and was present under all political systems, democratic and authoritarian, left and right - with socialism.

…and of course, the corporate welfare state (agribusiness, defense, prison maintenance, etc.) is not included in this category.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 2:15:30am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…and of course, the corporate welfare state (agribusiness, defense, prison maintenance, etc.) is not included in this category.

But but but corporations are persons! //

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 2:17:36am

(OK, I’m being facetious. Corporations are also “persons” in other countries. In Russia they are yuridicheskie litsa, In Germany GmbH, AG etc, are juristische Personen).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 2:21:38am

re: #265 Nyet

(OK, I’m being facetious. Corporations are also “persons” in other countries. In Russia they are yuridicheskie litsa, In Germany GmbH, AG etc, are juristische Personen).

Oddly for people who hate government, corporations should be the most awful persons, because they would not exist without government regulations that allow them to exist…

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BeenHereAwhile Jul 7, 2016 • 2:30:14am

re: #41 Decatur Deb

June bugs converted me to full-face motorcycle helmets.

You can tell which is the happy motorcyclist by the bugs in his teeth.

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Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 2:41:29am

OT: My don’t fuck with me quotient is getting pretty high thanks to work.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 3:00:38am

fucking wow

The Expanding Sex Case Against Fox News CEO Roger Ailes: At Least Ten More Women Have Come Forward

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Alyosha Jul 7, 2016 • 3:04:01am

having the personality type to want to be a cop should disqualify you from being a cop

— jon hendren (@fart) July 7, 2016

There are few professions of which applicants I am more inclined to ask ‘why’? Even after they’ve given me an answer.

Unless that answer is to police the force itself.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 3:05:24am

It’s not like Ailes cast his network like Hitchcock or anything. pic.twitter.com/ttq6zmLmhd

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) July 6, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 3:06:44am

re: #270 Alyosha

having the personality type to want to be a cop should disqualify you from being a cop

Current police brutality issues notwithstanding, we send our policemen out into a social environment where guns are omnipresent and the willingness to use force is high.

This is the very setting that makes it hard to draw the line between “erring on the side of safety” and “excessive force”.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 3:08:20am

Weak Sauce: “Classified” e-mails were “call sheets”

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TK-421 Jul 7, 2016 • 3:09:42am

re: #271 Nyet

All the people I know that buy into the shit they sell. Makes me woozy thinking about it if not depressed. Fucking Shrub taught them nothing.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 3:11:58am

#BernieSanders https://t.co/aiHEgfmWr6 Bernie Sanders Supporters Would Never Vote For Hillary Clinton, Even After An Endorsement

— H. A. Goodman (@HAGOODMANAUTHOR) July 7, 2016

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TK-421 Jul 7, 2016 • 3:13:26am

One very good thing about H. Clinton is she knows exactly who and what the right wing is and is not.

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Dave In Austin Jul 7, 2016 • 3:13:27am

@HAGOODMANAUTHOR @YouTube Great video, As a Trump supporter I say i respect everything u had to say. I say welcome aboard Bernie believers.

— Michael Bove (@MichaelBove9) July 7, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 3:13:51am

re: #275 Nyet

~~Bernie Sanders Supporters~~ People Who Think Participating in Politics is a Form of Public Temper Tantrum Would Never Vote For Hillary Clinton, Even After An Endorsement

fixed that for ya

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TK-421 Jul 7, 2016 • 3:14:33am

HA Goodman, Bernie Sanders’ very own Dan Bidondi.

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Dave In Austin Jul 7, 2016 • 3:16:25am

Morning Joke and sidekick and having a virtual slurpfest on Donald this morning. Regarding the word salad yesterday, The Lovebirds are talking about how Donald “Has his MOJO back”.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 3:17:58am

And here is the man himself.

“I think you’ve heard me say from Day One that there is a process in terms of the investigation regarding Secretary Clinton and the emails,” Sanders said. “Yesterday was an important part of that process. Now we wait to hear from the Justice Department.”

Read more: politico.com
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Crawl under whatever rock you came from, goober.

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TK-421 Jul 7, 2016 • 3:18:53am

Maybe I’m being a tad too harsh.

#OrlandoShooting mystery solved! #FalseFlag here is the cast involved. Shooter & victims work for https://t.co/LokxzCLJnI

— Dan Bidondi (@DanBidondi) June 29, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 3:19:11am

Now that the e-Mail scandal has been laid to rest, it becomes an FBI and DoJ scandal…

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Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 3:23:01am

re: #275 Nyet

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He’s getting pretty boring. Can we return him to the store for something new?

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TK-421 Jul 7, 2016 • 3:25:42am

I hate this time of day on third shift. I really want a cup of coffee, but if I do it’s no sleep till noon.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 3:26:59am

Hillary Should be Prosecuted for Reckless Abuses of National Security
↑ Jill Stein ↓
Snowden, Assange, Manning are Heroes

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 3:29:34am

BernieBots desperate.

Wed, 07/06/2016 - 4:31pm — Writerinres
HRC’s exoneration is even worse
Yes Petraeous got off with a fine and wrist slap, others lower down in the food chain weren’t as lucky. But, I’ve never in my wildest nightmares imagined that HRC’s criminal behavior would be rewarded with the continuation of her campaign for the presidency. That’s just Obama shitting all over the American people. Would love to see the both of them thrown in the penitentiary for life.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 3:30:28am

re: #287 Nyet

BernieBots desperate.

Politics as a public temper tantrum

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Dave In Austin Jul 7, 2016 • 3:31:46am

re: #285 TK-421

I hate this time of day on third shift. I really want a cup of coffee, but if I do it’s no sleep till noon.

You and me both… I get off in 30. Fortunately, the coffee doesn’t affect my sleep and I need it for the ride home.

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William Lewis Jul 7, 2016 • 3:33:05am

re: #269 Nyet

Cosby Jr?

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 3:35:17am

re: #271 Nyet

“I watch Fox News only for the ~~articles~~ news. Honest!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 3:35:22am

re: #290 William Lewis

Cosby Jr?

More like Cosby Sr., but you beat me to it…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 3:36:36am

re: #291 Nyet

“I watch Fox News only for the ~~articles~~ news. Honest!”

I watch it for the same reason I used to read Pravda: to find out the official Party stance talking points on the issues.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 3:39:46am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I watch it for the same reason I used to read Pravda: to find out the official Party stance talking points on the issues.

Jokes aside, that’s not healthy. Video and audio are more aggressive media, brain-wise, than paper.

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William Lewis Jul 7, 2016 • 3:40:58am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I watch it for the same reason I used to read Pravda: to find out the official Party stance talking points on the issues.

Between Fox and CNN we’ll soon have our own version of “there is no Isvestia in Pravda and no Pravda in Isvestia”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 3:49:45am

re: #294 Nyet

Jokes aside, that’s not healthy. Video and audio are more aggressive media, brain-wise, than paper.

In general, I do my Party Line Check at newsmax….I really only turn to video news to watch footage of some dramatic event.

And yes, people who get their information solely from broadcast sources are unaware of the degree to which they are being manipulated.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 3:58:22am

re: #275 Nyet

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They think they’re making a statement, but all I hear is a tantruming child demanding attention. You can spin it however you like: Voting for your “conscience,” not “choosing the lesser of two evils,” “staying true,” or what have you. The reality is that you got promised a pony, you found out you’re not getting that pony, and now you’re stamping your feet and threatening to hold our breath until you pass out because that’ll show the adults how wrong they were for not giving you that pony.

I’ve no time for petulant children, so go play in traffic for the next 4-8 years.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 7, 2016 • 4:00:56am

re: #148 TedStriker

How much do you wanna bet the cops use that little tidbit to lean on her about her boyfriend’s murder-by-cop and threaten to have her kid taken away from her?

You know, the same kid that I have to assume was in the backseat of that car when that cop blasted four lethal rounds into it.

Shit has to fucking stop.

I’ll just say this; shit like the Falcon Heights shooting is only going to stop when prosecutors actually start prosecuting the cops involved in such incidents…..and ask for either life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty.

It’ll stop really fast then.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 4:05:01am

re: #298 Dr Lizardo

I hate to say this, but this shit like the Falcon Heights shooting is only going to stop when prosecutors actually start prosecuting the cops involved in such incidents…..and ask for either life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty.

It’ll stop really fast then.

Problem is, as we’re seeing in Baltimore, even cops taken to trial in cases where a normal civilian would at best face probation are instead walking free while their union blasts the prosecutor and their supporters suggest she be sued for ever taking the cops to court.

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dangerman Jul 7, 2016 • 4:10:17am

re: #297 Targetpractice

They think they’re making a statement, but all I hear is a tantruming child demanding attention. You can spin it however you like: Voting for your “conscience,” not “choosing the lesser of two evils,” “staying true,” or what have you. The reality is that you got promised a pony, you found out you’re not getting that pony, and now you’re stamping your feet and threatening to hold our breath until you pass out because that’ll show the adults how wrong they were for not giving you that pony.

I’ve no time for petulant children, so go play in traffic for the next 4-8 years.

easier, faster and less heartburn to help register five new voters than convert one of these.

and it doesn’t annoy the pig.

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dangerman Jul 7, 2016 • 4:15:54am

re: #298 Dr Lizardo

I hate to say this, but this shit like the Falcon Heights shooting is only going to stop when prosecutors actually start prosecuting the cops involved in such incidents…..and ask for either life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty.

It’ll stop really fast then.

yup. swift and severe
no consequences means no responsibility.
lax punishment means no responsibility.

reckless people should not be allowed to handle guns
a cop who operates within an aura of fear is reckless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 4:19:35am

re: #299 Targetpractice

Problem is, as we’re seeing in Baltimore, even cops taken to trial in cases where a normal civilian would at best face probation are instead walking free while their union blasts the prosecutor and their supporters suggest she be sued for ever taking the cops to court.

because prosecutors have a working relationship with the police to obtain indictments against people they arrest…trying to prosecute a policeman is tantamount to a conflict of interest

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Decatur Deb Jul 7, 2016 • 4:26:13am

This is a from little filler article on Google’s sidebar—now it’s my current desktop.

washingtonpost.com

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goddamnedfrank Jul 7, 2016 • 4:28:21am

re: #298 Dr Lizardo

I’ll just say this; shit like the Falcon Heights shooting is only going to stop when prosecutors actually start prosecuting the cops involved in such incidents…..and ask for either life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty.

It’ll stop really fast then.

We need to codify police behavior down to the point where there’s no longer any wiggle room as well, so juries can’t choose to let them off. If the body cam comes loose or is turned off and there’s a use of force incident, that has to be treated as de facto evidence of obstruction of justice on the part of the cop. If someone is shot / killed while not posing an overt, immediate and dire threat to the officers life, the law needs to explicitly cover that as murder under color of authority. Incidents that meet these criteria need to not only be prosecuted aggressively, but the jurisdictions involved need to stop indemnifying these officers in the resulting civil cases. Make it clear in their employment contracts that if a cop takes such a proscribed action on the job that they’re on their own, that the city, county, state will cut them loose and will not have their back.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 4:29:36am

The other running theme of the Bros is how everybody else is at fault for his loss but them and Bernie. The media’s at fault, the DNC’s at fault, Hillary is at fault, everybody is at fault except his supporters for failing to get out there and vote for him while recruiting others to vote alongside them. Bernie and his supporters didn’t fail, we failed them by not jumping on the bandwagon. We had an obligation to them and we blew it, so now we’re responsible for Trump being president because we had to go and decide that Hillary was a better candidate.

Again, it’s the mindset of a trantruming child, that he didn’t do anything wrong, everybody else did for not giving him the outcome wanted. The worst part is the people I often see screaming this shit are not millenials, they’re the Boomers who are still holding a grudge from ‘68.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 7, 2016 • 4:30:27am

re: #304 goddamnedfrank

We need to codify police behavior down to the point where there’s no longer any wiggle room as well, so juries can’t choose to let them off. If the body cam comes loose or is turned off and there’s a use of force incident, that has to be treated as de facto evidence of obstruction of justice on the part of the cop. If someone is shot / killed while not posing an overt, immediate and dire threat to the officers life, the law needs to explicitly cover that as murder under color of authority. Incidents that meet these criteria need to not only be prosecuted aggressively, but the jurisdictions involved need to stop indemnifying these officers in the resulting civil cases. Make it clear in their employment contracts that if a cop takes such a proscribed action on the job that they’re on their own, that the city, county, state will cut them loose and will not have their back.

Amen to that. I couldn’t agree more.

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William Lewis Jul 7, 2016 • 4:31:41am

re: #303 Decatur Deb

This is a from little filler article on Google’s sidebar—now it’s my current desktop.

washingtonpost.com

Oooh… me too, now. Thanks for the pointer.

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Decatur Deb Jul 7, 2016 • 4:33:58am

re: #307 William Lewis

Oooh… me too, now. Thanks for the pointer.

Photographers work for years to get a great image, then some pilot gets lucky in an off moment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 4:33:59am

re: #305 Targetpractice

The other running theme of the Bros is how everybody else is at fault for his loss but them and Bernie.

And it is the fault of the DNC because it had clear rules about participating in primaries which were adopted and made public long before Bernie decided to campaign as a Democrat…

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 4:44:48am

The 2nd Amendment is so I can protect myself and my family and defend my rights against government tyranny and also how come black people ~~don’t just obey the cops~~ have guns?

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 4:45:00am

re: #304 goddamnedfrank

We need to codify police behavior down to the point where there’s no longer any wiggle room as well, so juries can’t choose to let them off. If the body cam comes loose or is turned off and there’s a use of force incident, that has to be treated as de facto evidence of obstruction of justice on the part of the cop. If someone is shot / killed while not posing an overt, immediate and dire threat to the officers life, the law needs to explicitly cover that as murder under color of authority. Incidents that meet these criteria need to not only be prosecuted aggressively, but the jurisdictions involved need to stop indemnifying these officers in the resulting civil cases. Make it clear in their employment contracts that if a cop takes such a proscribed action on the job that they’re on their own, that the city, county, state will cut them loose and will not have their back.

Problem with getting any of this made law is that the first step will be dealing with police unions and the virtually unquestioned power they have. Otherwise such laws are a waste, as the unions will first run the “anti-cop” politicians out of office, then use their new paid stooges to overturn the laws or poke holes into them such that they’re rendered useless. And if they can’t manage either of those, they’ll just judge shop until they find one who will strike down the laws.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 4:46:00am

The 2nd Amendment is the most sacred of all Constitutional rights and how come black people have guns?

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 4:47:44am

The 2nd Amendment is to protect us against government tyranny so we can shoot back against tyrants and have you read Heather’s great new book on The War on Cops?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 4:48:46am

re: #312 Sir John Barron

The 2nd Amendment is the most sacred of all Constitutional rights and how come black people have guns?

yep, their hands are lethal weapons!

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 4:52:33am

We’ve seen the script enough times to know how it goes. A case involving an unarmed civilian getting gunned down by cops goes viral, gaining a lot of public sympathy and support. Cops are either let off with no consequences or given wrist slaps, further driving up public outrage. Politicians try to tap into that outrage to make progress on laws that would further regulate how cops approach future situations.

And then a cop gets killed in the line of duty, the union and its stooges capitalize on this to portray a “War on Cops” and undermine “anti-cop” politicians, and the reform dies a quiet death. Or worse, a “pro-cop” law gets taken up and passed to give them even more leeway in future situations, making repeats of the initial case even more likely. Meanwhile, the pro-reform politicians throw up their hands, say that there’s not enough support for their proposals, and we’re back to square one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 4:53:45am

re: #315 Targetpractice

Because we do not have nuanced discussions, it is all either-for-us-or-against-us thinking.

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Charles Johnson Jul 7, 2016 • 5:35:18am

A sign of real desperation - Daily Caller tries to resurrect an anti-Hillary smear from 1974! https://t.co/DhMKdep9yF @DailyCaller

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 7, 2016

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dangerman Jul 7, 2016 • 5:40:43am

re: #311 Targetpractice

Problem with getting any of this made law is that the first step will be dealing with police unions and the virtually unquestioned power they have. Otherwise such laws are a waste, as the unions will first run the “anti-cop” politicians out of office, then use their new paid stooges to overturn the laws or poke holes into them such that they’re rendered useless. And if they can’t manage either of those, they’ll just judge shop until they find one who will strike down the laws.

further if it didnt apply equally across all law enforcement - urban police forces, suburban, rural, sheriff depts, etc, well, you can figure it out

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 5:47:02am

re: #317 Charles Johnson

A sign of real desperation - Daily Caller tries to resurrect an anti-Hillary smear from 1974!

and it will be picked up in the name of the MBF

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 5:47:56am

re: #317 Charles Johnson

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This is the level of desperation that has set in since Tuesday. They had the entire farm bet on an indictment, they have no Plan B. Hence why they’re dragging Comey before Congress today and Lynch next week, because they have to keep this nontroversy alive in the hopes that will be what give them the edge they need in November.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 5:48:46am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Overnight we got “treated” to another video of another black man being killed by cops. This time, the black man had a concealed carry permit to own and carry a firearm, and yet the cop killed him. Why was he pulled over and gunned down? A broken tail light.

The NRA response will be interesting. If it’s anything like their response following the killings of Tamir Rice and John Crawford, then the NRA position is clear.

It’s the (White)NRA, and blacks shouldn’t be entitled to the 2A rights everyone else is. We see it every time a black is gunned down by law enforcement. White people and law enforcement deny cop wrongdoing, claim the black man was a danger, acted dangerously, and the only response was to shoot the black man because the cop felt they were in danger for their lives.

It’s the same script repeated on an almost daily basis.

The ALM BS is just that - not all lives matter to some people, and making excuses for inexcusable police training, tactics, and handling of stops shows that people will go out of their way to blame everyone but the cop who pulled the trigger.

I know former cops, so I know the stresses they’re under when they do car stops. Night stops are the most dangerous for them, because of limited visibility, traffic, and the potential for a violent encounter. Yet, none of that is an excuse for an officer blasting away at someone who is merely trying to follow cop instructions.

None of this is an excuse for gunning down a black teenager playing with a toy gun in an open carry state (Tamir Rice). None of this is an excuse for gunning down a black man handling a bb gun in an open carry state (John Crawford). Those two incidents were in Ohio btw, which is where the RNC convention will be held in a short time.

On and on it goes. Cops kill black people disproportionately in various police stops. This is on the cops. They are far too quick to use deadly force and they are far less likely to be held accountable for killing someone else than everyone else in society. This has to change.

Cops must be held accountable for their actions - including prison sentences for homicide. That means laws have to be amended to rein in justified use of force rules and the prosecutors and courts have to do better too.

So, add broken tail lights to the reasons that cops will kill black people.
Playing with toy guns in open carry states.
Walking.
Breathing.
Driving.

Existing while black can be sufficient for a death sentence. It’s all part of the dehumanization of minorities that some in law enforcement engage in; this must stop.

And the NRA will be silent. Because as much as they talk about 2A and the right to bear arms, it doesn’t apply to all folks. Decades of indoctrinating irrational hate and fear continues to get white folks scared enough to grab a talisman to protect themselves against minorities who will rape their women and kill their children.

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dangerman Jul 7, 2016 • 5:49:27am

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because we do not have nuanced discussions, it is all either-for-us-or-against-us thinking.

that’s why wrt civilian gun use i say give em what they want. accept the broadest interpretation of the 2A. own whatever you want (more or less).

simply control your weapon at all times. No second chances.
if you lose control in use, handling, transporting, storing, transferring, then fines, jail, and no more 2a rights for you.

it would only weed out the demonstrably irresponsible and reckless, right?

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dangerman Jul 7, 2016 • 5:52:11am

re: #321 lawhawk

were not the last five or so (i’ve lost count!!?!) white, male mass shooters all arrested / taken alive?

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Ming5000 Jul 7, 2016 • 5:52:31am

re: #322 dangerman

It would be a start. We cannot seem to get ANY improvement through.
Hope for an HRC landslide.

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Decatur Deb Jul 7, 2016 • 5:56:16am

re: #321 lawhawk

Greets and saluts …snip I know former cops, so I know the stresses they’re under when they do car stops. Night stops are the most dangerous for them, because of limited visibility, traffic, and the potential for a violent encounter. Yet, none of that is an excuse for an officer blasting away at someone who is merely trying to follow cop instructions…

It’s instructional to really look at the ride-along footage from the show Cops. Even though the POV is totally pro-police, the procedures used in takedowns are absurd. Any upright citizen is likely to fail to comply with the overwhelmingly confusing instructions shouted at the ‘perp’.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 5:58:33am

re: #323 dangerman

were not the last five or so (i’ve lost count!!?!) white, male mass shooters all arrested / taken alive?

Any number of mass shooters, spree killers, domestic terrorists, serial killers, and sovereign citizens have been captured alive.

You’ve got the Bundy ranch extremists who pointed high powered rifles at federal agents, and cops didn’t even arrest them at that time. They trespassed and occupied a national wildlife refuge, and cops didn’t shoot them down. One of those Bundy nuts was killed only after trying to ram a police checkpoint with their car - a justified use of force.

But a black driver pulled over for ticky-tack reasons can find themselves dead on the side of the road because of a cop with an itchy trigger finger.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 5:59:40am

re: #320 Targetpractice

This is the level of desperation that has set in since Tuesday. They had the entire farm bet on an indictment, they have no Plan B. Hence why they’re dragging Comey before Congress today and Lynch next week, because they have to keep this nontroversy alive in the hopes that will be what give them the edge they need in November.

Now the FBI and DoJ are going the be the objects of their outrage…fixed and corrupt and bought off, etc…

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Eventual Carrion Jul 7, 2016 • 5:59:53am

re: #90 Shimshon

Defeating Hillary is like defeating Hitler in their eyes?

Defeating Hitler with Mussolini.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 6:00:03am

re: #325 Decatur Deb

Tamir Rice was given less than a second to comply with cops after they drove their police cruiser within feet of Rice - and no one would have had a chance to comply.

He was gunned down almost instantaneously. No chance. No attempt to ascertain what was going on. Murdered.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 6:01:24am

re: #322 dangerman

that’s why wrt civilian gun use i say give em what they want. accept the broadest interpretation of the 2A. own whatever you want (more or less).

simply control your weapon at all times. No second chances.
if you lose control in use, handling, transporting, storing, transferring, then fines, jail, and no more 2a rights for you.

it would only weed out the demonstrably irresponsible and reckless, right?

I agree that if you want to defend your own home and family with a gun, then that is your right (although it does not make you statistically safer, we cannot take away your subjective right to feel that way)

but guns in public places are another matter entirely…there is nothing about a well regulated militia that covers that aspect of gun rights

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 6:03:13am

Escaping the craziness of our political and law enforcement failings, here’s a photo that you could only dream of taking:

Landsat satellite take photo of Earth, and the ISS photobombs the image:

The space station photobombs the Earth in pix taken by Landsat 8. https://t.co/bIfEDI9qzj pic.twitter.com/Tpq75kUBCH

— Slate (@Slate) July 7, 2016

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dangerman Jul 7, 2016 • 6:06:40am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but guns in public places are another matter entirely…there is nothing about a well regulated militia that covers that aspect of gun rights

i dont disagree about the first part. im (personally) tired of debating the second part. (not with you.. with…others). so i tend to leave that to state and local governments. if carry is allowed. ok. muck it up once and you lose your 2a privileges.

though as we saw last night, last year in florida, etc., the dangers to legally carrying (for some) are starting to outweigh the personal safety aspect

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Lani Jul 7, 2016 • 6:09:15am

re: #329 lawhawk

Tamir Rice was given less than a second to comply with cops after they drove their police cruiser within feet of Rice - and no one would have had a chance to comply.

He was gunned down almost instantaneously. No chance. No attempt to ascertain what was going on. Murdered.

I cry every time I think of Tamir. I can’t imagine how his family can function after his murder.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 6:10:04am

re: #333 Lani

I cry every time I think of Tamir. I can’t imagine how his family can function after his murder.

especially after his their own character assassination in the media

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 6:15:39am

Broken clock from NRO:

Blacks are 12.6% of U.S.; 40% of unarmed shot by cops in 2015, and 35% of those unarmed & shot by cops so far in 16. https://t.co/ITzfXpVWTS

— jimgeraghty (@jimgeraghty) July 7, 2016

The statistics don’t lie. Blacks are gunned down by cops at a disproportionate rate. That’s all on the law enforcement, which engages in racial profiling to conduct the stops, and then escalates them into use of deadly force.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 7, 2016 • 6:20:43am

re: #331 lawhawk

Escaping the craziness of our political and law enforcement failings, here’s a photo that you could only dream of taking:

Landsat satellite take photo of Earth, and the ISS photobombs the image:

[Embedded content]

I haven’t eaten in over a day and barely slept last night, so in this befuddled state I kept trying to see how ISIS photobombed the Earth…and what does this mean for me?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 6:21:42am

re: #336 Barefoot Grin

I haven’t eaten in over a day and barely slept last night, so in this befuddled state I kept trying to see how ISIS photobombed the Earth…and what does this mean for me?

my first thought, too…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 6:21:44am

re: #321 lawhawk

And the NRA will be silent. Because as much as they talk about 2A and the right to bear arms, it doesn’t apply to all folks. Decades of indoctrinating irrational hate and fear continues to get white folks scared enough to grab a talisman to protect themselves against minorities who will rape their women and kill their children.

Bingo! It’s not a coincidence that the principal spokesmen for the NRA are white men.

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DodgerFan1988 Jul 7, 2016 • 6:22:27am

Charles C. Johnson already sliming Philandro Castile as a thug who got what he deserved.
gotnews.com

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jeffreyw Jul 7, 2016 • 6:24:17am

Imgur
Good morning! Busy day ahead.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 7, 2016 • 6:27:32am

re: #339 DodgerFan1988

Charles C. Johnson already sliming Philandro Castile as a thug who got what he deserved.
gotnews.com

Bane of course

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 6:28:08am

re: #339 DodgerFan1988

Charles C. Johnson already sliming Philandro Castile as a thug who got what he deserved.
gotnews.com

It’s his modus operandi.

And check his not so subtle panhandling — a commercial right in the middle of the blog.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 6:28:50am

re: #339 DodgerFan1988

Charles C. Johnson already sliming Philandro Castile as a thug who got what he deserved.
gotnews.com

Not that he’s breaking any new ground, the media will quickly take this up in their need for a “point/counterpoint” world. Yeah, the cops were wrong to kill him, but “he was no angel.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 6:30:05am

I’m just thinking that CCJ may be biting off more than he can chew if he gets the Crips mad at him for any reason.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 6:34:28am

re: #339 DodgerFan1988

Charles C. Johnson already sliming Philandro Castile as a thug who got what he deserved.
gotnews.com

I’m shocked, just absolutely shocked.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 6:35:27am

Rage Furby has no less than 3 posts smearing Alton, too.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 6:37:11am

re: #346 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Rage Furby has no less than 3 posts smearing Alton, too.

~~It’s almost as if~~ he just hates black people.

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DodgerFan1988 Jul 7, 2016 • 6:37:12am

The comments section in Brietbart News concerning the police shootings in Louisiana and Minnesota full of racist posts celebrating both deaths.
breitbart.com

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 6:37:53am

re: #348 DodgerFan1988

The comments section in Brietbart News

Nopenopenopenopenopenopenope

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bratwurst Jul 7, 2016 • 6:38:29am

Trump is so proud of his Star of David floating in the sea of money it should be the backdrop of his convention unless he’s a huge coward.

— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) July 7, 2016

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 6:38:41am

re: #348 DodgerFan1988

The comments section in Brietbart News concerning the police shootings in Louisiana and Minnesota full of racist posts celebrating both deaths.
breitbart.com

But that can’t be! There’s nothing racist about the shooting because all lives matter!

////////

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 6:39:18am

re: #347 Sir John Barron

~~It’s almost as if~~ he just hates black people.

Yup.

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mmmirele Jul 7, 2016 • 6:40:19am

Mechanically sliced bread is 88 years old today. We have a daily technology call at my employer, it’s my week to facilitate the call, and I have to come up with a trivia question at the end. And, yes, really, the Chillicothe Baking Company in Chillicothe, Missouri first sold bread sliced by Otto Rohwedder’s machine on this day in 1928.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 6:40:44am

Oh, and here’s another non-surprise!

Trump lifted his #Frozen defense of his #PlainStar tweet from an anti-Semitic, alt-Reich Reddit site. HT @justinjm1 pic.twitter.com/tGdLtfAV83

— chenx064 (@chenx064) July 7, 2016

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Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 6:40:45am

** IF ** (I can’t emphasize that word enough) Philandro Castile was a gang member, and he was a licensed concealed carry permit holder, then what does that say about background checks?

That is obviously besides the point, as being a gang member does not require on site execution by the police.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 7, 2016 • 6:40:57am

Chuccubus is no different than the racist twitter scum that tweets out ‘hook nose jew’ graphics and KKK stuff. He’s a horrible person.

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DodgerFan1988 Jul 7, 2016 • 6:43:29am

All over Twitter and Conservative websites like The National Review and Townhall the talking point for today is “we don’t see what happened before the video started so let’s not jump to any conclusions about the Falcon Heights shooting.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 6:43:41am

re: #356 SoundGuy 2016

Chuccubus is no different than the racist twitter scum that tweets out ‘hook nose jew’ graphics and KKK stuff. He’s a horrible person.

He’s in thick with that crowd. We need to monitor his new Twitter accounts to see if he crosses the line again.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 6:44:16am

re: #355 Franklin

** IF ** (I can’t emphasize that word enough) Philandro Castile was a gang member, and he was a licensed concealed carry permit holder, then what does that say about background checks?

That is obviously besides the point, as being a gang member does not require on site execution by the police.

The public answer will be that its somehow proof that the system is flawed, thus we can’t pass any sort of gun control laws because the system is so flawed.

The private answer is that the system’s flaw is that people with skin darker than a paper bag can buy guns.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 6:44:55am

re: #354 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, and here’s another non-surprise!

Trump lifted his Frozen defense of his “Plain Star” tweet from an anti-Semitic, alt-Reich Reddit site. HT

So the original image came from a right-wing site, and now the excuse distancing himself from the image and its origins come from one, too?

But again. This is just sending the discussion down another rat hole. Let us talk about Trump’s non-existent qualifications for office and his lack of any record of public service, as well as his altogether disastrous and self-serving record of dealing with the public (in the form of his creditors and contractors).

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 6:45:13am

re: #357 DodgerFan1988

All over Twitter and Conservative websites like The National Review and Townhall the talking point for today is “we don’t see what happened before the video started so let’s not jump to any conclusions about the Falcon Heights shooting.”

That’s always their talking point, that we don’t see what happened before, so we can’t make any judgments. Except when we do get video of such, like what happened in SC. Then suddenly they’re all for roasting the cop…but still within limits, because cops are a special class of people.

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Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 6:45:21am

I like that WaPo appears to opt for regular pictures of the black victims in their articles instead of mug shots, or other unflattering photos. I also like to think that @WesleyLowery has something to do with that.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 6:48:21am

OK I have to admit this Baby Whiplash meme made me smile==>

I do appreciate Trump supporters making me a sheriff. pic.twitter.com/1v3SH3yldW

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) July 7, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 6:51:26am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

OK I have to admit this Baby Whiplash meme made me smile==>

I do appreciate Trump supporters making me a sheriff.

I see him more as a Disney princess…

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dangerman Jul 7, 2016 • 6:51:35am

re: #340 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning! Busy day ahead.

here’s how mine began:
cat 1 hairball kitchen floor
an hour later cat 2 hairball living room floor (deigned himself to get off the sofa)
a few minutes of give and take on lgf
in the shower, drain begins to back up
leads to learning of clog in the septic via backup / flooding in the other bathroom (you can guess)

i had a plans for today. aint none of it gonna happen

then i step back and breathe
what great problems to have!

and now im off to attack it all

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 6:53:20am

Partisan politician is partisan -> @SpeakerRyan

Ignore that FBI/DOJ cleared Clinton of criminal wrongdoing, you want to screw w/process.

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 7, 2016

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darthstar Jul 7, 2016 • 6:53:34am

It’s sad that I can name more African Americans killed by police than I can African American MLB players. And I watch a lot of baseball.

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 7, 2016

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Dr Lizardo Jul 7, 2016 • 6:53:45am

re: #363 The Vicious Babushka

OK, that Shapiro tweet made me chuckle.

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Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 6:55:14am

I wanted to pet her last night so bad. This morning, I just can’t hold it together.

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Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 6:55:47am

re: #275 Nyet

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@HAGOODMANAUTHOR Fuck you Goodman Trump will appoint a Rightwing SCOTUS Justice.— jim (@jlcoffeecup) July 7, 2016

Now I’ll wait for all the BernieBros to start bitching at me so I can block them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 6:56:49am

re: #366 lawhawk

Paul Ryan: I formally asked the Director of National Intelligence to deny Sec. Clinton access to classified info.

they have to keep this scandal alive, I must admit, it is a well-designed ploy

entirely without precedent but it will keep the issue in the headlines and cause ‘splodey heads in all the right places

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darthstar Jul 7, 2016 • 6:57:23am

~@SpeakerRyan You fucking idiot. She’s going to so fuck you over when you need a favor in eight months. And rightly so.

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 7, 2016

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 6:58:59am

re: #361 Targetpractice

That’s always their talking point, that we don’t see what happened before, so we can’t make any judgments. Except when we do get video of such, like what happened in SC. Then suddenly they’re all for roasting the cop…but still within limits, because cops are a special class of people.

wingnuts said that at the time of the Rodney King beating as well.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 6:59:24am

Transcript of Lavisha Reynolds’ video on Facebook https://t.co/KszsS8ipbQ #PhilandoCastile pic.twitter.com/L16hloyCCx

— (((SPLC))) (@splcenter) July 7, 2016

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Jay C Jul 7, 2016 • 7:01:23am

re: #366 lawhawk

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And I wonder what the DNI’s answer to that particular request is going to be? (After he picks himself up after a hearty ROFLMAO episode)

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 7:01:57am

re: #355 Franklin

** IF ** (I can’t emphasize that word enough) Philandro Castile was a gang member, and he was a licensed concealed carry permit holder, then what does that say about background checks?

That is obviously besides the point, as being a gang member does not require on site execution by the police.

while we are cautioned to wait till all information about the video is known before judging the police there is no time wasted determining that the black man (or woman) shot was a gang member, had a lengthy rap sheet, had a child out of wedlock, had a gun, didn’t always get to school in time, etc.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 7:02:12am

Gunmen open fire on Eid prayer gathering in Bangladesh https://t.co/4zirMFKSQ4 pic.twitter.com/FLoO3oVdvn

— NBC News (@NBCNews) July 7, 2016

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:03:16am

$12m vs. $78k in Florida… https://t.co/Pu7qAoCu7H

— Byron York (@ByronYork) July 7, 2016

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:03:43am

re: #375 Jay C

And I wonder what the DNI’s answer to that particular request is going to be? (After he picks himself up after a hearty ROFLMAO episode)

“‘I’m disinclined to acquiesce to your request.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 7:04:27am

re: #375 Jay C

And I wonder what the DNI’s answer to that particular request is going to be? (After he picks himself up after a hearty ROFLMAO episode)

That this request is unfounded, unprecedented and purely political posturing and grandstanding.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:04:55am

re: #376 Sir John Barron

while we are cautioned to wait till all information about the video is known before judging the police there is no time wasted determining that the black man (or woman) shot was a gang member, had a lengthy rap sheet, had a child out of wedlock, had a gun, didn’t always get to school in time, etc.

And when they can’t find something, they’ll simply make shit up. Like suggesting there was something in his tone or in the way he moved that was “disrespectful” to the cop.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 7:05:59am

Eric Trump: Ivanka has my vote for VP https://t.co/Q0jJUZzzGj pic.twitter.com/zw5ZvutmlK

— The Hill (@thehill) July 7, 2016

“She’s got the beautiful looks, she’s smart, she’s smart, smart, smart,” Eric Trump said Thursday on Fox News.

Since when is “beautiful looks” a qualification for VP?

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Skip Intro Jul 7, 2016 • 7:06:03am

re: #360 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So the original image came from a right-wing site, and now the excuse distancing himself from the image and its origins come from one, too?

But again. This is just sending the discussion down another rat hole. Let us talk about Trump’s non-existent qualifications for office and his lack of any record of public service, as well as his altogether disastrous and self-serving record of dealing with the public (in the form of his creditors and contractors).

I’d like to talk about the money laundering operations he has between his foundation and those of his kids and how it appears that he’s never given a dime of his own money to charity.

The we could talk about his alleged child rape case, his secret tax returns, and how in the future the name Trump will stand right next to the name Ponzi as the greatest con men of all time.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 7:06:56am

I’ve been getting anti-Hillary wingnut memes all morning, sent to me by Berniebots.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 7:07:22am

The Berniebots really are annoying little shits.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:08:00am

Bread and circuses:

Hearing with FBI Director James Comey set to begin on Capitol Hill pic.twitter.com/YB3kavTHae

— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) July 7, 2016

Can’t wait for the GOP to claim that Comey acted improperly in not indicating indictment warranted against Clinton.

He stated that no reasonable prosecutor would move to indict. The GOP must show that they are unreasonable, which is why they’re going to push this BS into November and beyond.

They have no other plan. It’s all smears all the time, ignoring the shitshow on their own side of the ledger.

And I still have to wonder how many in Congress would pass emails security audits.

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DodgerFan1988 Jul 7, 2016 • 7:08:02am

Now the Right Wing bloggers are in unison attacking the girlfriend Lavish Reynolds for recording the video and being calm throughout the whole ordeal, like she’s turning it into something thats not (an unjustified shooting).

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:08:22am

So I tune into CSPAN to watch the Comey questioning…and the first person I see is Jason Chaffetz engaging in concern trolling. Ugh.

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darthstar Jul 7, 2016 • 7:08:42am

re: #378 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Still think Trump is trying to win this race?

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:09:54am

Chaffetz tries to guilt trip Comey by saying that he’s defended him and so doesn’t understand why Comey didn’t reciprocate.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:10:08am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

No experience. Couldn’t even be bothered to register to vote in NY to support her dad, but we’re supposed to believe she’s qualified based on her appearance?

What kind of baffling BS is this? This is what passes for Trump logic?

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Skip Intro Jul 7, 2016 • 7:10:34am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Since when is “beautiful looks” a qualification for VP?

He’s confused. He’s thinking of what it takes to work at Fox.

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darthstar Jul 7, 2016 • 7:11:03am

re: #386 lawhawk

no reasonable prosecutor would move to indict.

Sounds like an endorsement to me…
//

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 7:11:44am

re: #388 Targetpractice

So I tune into CSPAN to watch the Comey questioning…and the first person I see is Jason Chaffetz engaging in concern trolling. Ugh.

As Charles Pierce noted yesterday, Comey gave the GOP a pony and the GOP shot it in the head.

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(((The Engineer Lobuno))) Jul 7, 2016 • 7:12:33am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

Sarah Palin.

Not that it improved her image.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:12:47am

And now Elijah Cummings is ripping the GOP apart. How sweet it is.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 7:13:03am

re: #384 The Vicious Babushka

I’ve been getting anti-Hillary wingnut memes all morning, sent to me by Berniebots.

I’ve been blocking, unfollowing BernieBusters for the past couple of weeks. Enjoyable.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:14:59am

The GOP completely fucked up. They should have held this meeting behind closed doors and then leaked portions of the transcript. Instead, they’ve given Cummings and his fellow Democrats a public forum to humiliate them.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 7:15:52am

re: #398 Targetpractice

The GOP completely fucked up. They should have held this meeting behind closed doors and then leaked portions of the transcript. Instead, they’ve given Cummings and his fellow Democrats a public forum to humiliate them.

The derp from this hearing could be profound.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 7:16:06am

re: #390 Targetpractice

Chaffetz tries to guilt trip Comey by saying that he’s defended him and so doesn’t understand why Comey didn’t reciprocate.

Not Comey’s job, Chaffetz.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 7:16:54am

re: #390 Targetpractice

Chaffetz tries to guilt trip Comey by saying that he’s defended him and so doesn’t understand why Comey didn’t reciprocate.

The Comey didn’t reciprocate how? Because Chaffetz said nice things about him he was supposed to recommend a criminal indictment?

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Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 7:17:16am

re: #392 Skip Intro

He’s confused. He’s thinking of what it takes to work at Fox.

He’s thinking of what it takes to work for his dad.

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Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 7:17:43am

re: #401 Sir John Barron

The Comey didn’t reciprocate how?

By making sure a Republican would end up in the White House.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:18:20am

re: #401 Sir John Barron

The Comey didn’t reciprocate how?

Basically, he gave the usual “I’ve gone to bat so many times for you, so I don’t understand why you didn’t do what I wanted” bit.

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CuriousLurker Jul 7, 2016 • 7:18:56am

re: #356 SoundGuy 2016

Chuccubus is no different than the racist twitter scum that tweets out ‘hook nose jew’ graphics and KKK stuff. He’s a horrible person.

LOL—perfect! That one’s a keeper.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:19:45am

Chaffetz runs over Comey to jump up and say that Cummings will get the hearing he wants into Petraeus.

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darthstar Jul 7, 2016 • 7:21:26am

Okay…twitter question. Why are people wrapping their ((( twitter names ))) in triple parentheses?

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:21:33am

Chaffetz makes sure to make clear that he can call recess at any time without question, i.e. “I can shut this down whenever it starts getting uncomfortable for me and my buddies.”

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 7, 2016 • 7:21:38am

Might be a good day to stay off the interwebs and go to the beach. Black men being gunned down over trifling shit and the GOP is worked up over emails. I knew the usual suspects would do the usual character smears and narrative formation while the bodies were still warm but now I see Ivanka as being discussed as VP. I hope it doesn’t become seriously discussed.

This is total madness.

Reading TL’s and FB of black folk today: there is serious pain and rage erupting. I’m feeling a little overwhelmed myself.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:21:41am

Fox News misogyny in action:

WATCH: @bpolitics supercut of Fox News hosts commenting on @GretchenCarlson’s looks, outfits, on air. https://t.co/dGhysyDsYn

— Kendall Breitman (@KendallBreitman) July 7, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 7:22:34am

re: #407 darthstar

Okay…twitter question. Why are people wrapping their ((( twitter names ))) in triple parentheses?

the “cowbell” symbol was RW code for “this person is Jewish”

so lots of folks have taken it up, including (((Wendell))) himself

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Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 7:22:58am

re: #407 darthstar

Okay…twitter question. Why are people wrapping their ((( twitter names ))) in triple parentheses?

Because a few months ago it was revealed that white supremacists were using that to track Jews they needed to go after by putting the name in ((())). They even had an app that would search for the pattern.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:24:22am

Comey giving a layman’s understanding of how a criminal investigation is conducted: What’s done and what was going through the person’s mind at the time. And explaining why gross negligence is not simply “they made a huge mistake.”

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:25:07am

Comey says DOJ has used “gross negligence” to prosecute someone once in the last 99 years the Espionage Act has existed.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 7:25:23am

re: #410 lawhawk

Fox News misogyny in action:

I blame gay marriage.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:25:47am

Putting this in spoilers since it’s a seriously disturbing image:

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:26:06am

Comey says his “former colleagues” who’ve said they would have brought the case should explain why none of them brought such a case in the last 40 years.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 7:26:12am

re: #408 Targetpractice

Chaffetz makes sure to make clear that he can call recess at any time without question, i.e. “I can shut this down whenever it starts getting uncomfortable for me and my buddies.”

sounds like it’s going well for them….

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 7:26:49am

re: #417 Targetpractice

Comey says his “former colleagues” who’ve said they would have brought the case should explain why none of them brought such a case in the last 40 years.

GOP beating a dead horse and shooting their pony over and over again.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:27:01am

Chaffetz getting anal about the location of the email servers, i.e. trying to argue the servers were illegal.

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Eventual Carrion Jul 7, 2016 • 7:27:10am

re: #252 Anymouse

Texas blocked 2nd trimester abortion numbers for 2014 because they undermined their Supreme Court argument for HB-2 (the TRAP law now struck down).

nbcnews.com

Facts always fuck up their arguments. That’s why repubs (and The Donald) like ignorant people. If they can hide or confuse the facts they have won with the willfully ignorant, and the truly stupid just come along for the ride anyway.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:27:40am

re: #417 Targetpractice

Comey says his “former colleagues” who’ve said they would have brought the case should explain why none of them brought such a case in the last 40 years.

I believe that’s what called a mic drop.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:28:07am

Comey says that the FBI has no basis to conclude Hillary lied to them while under oath.

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darthstar Jul 7, 2016 • 7:28:13am

re: #412 Belafon

Because a few months ago it was revealed that white supremacists were using that to track Jews they needed to go after. They even had an app that would search for the pattern.

Dear god. Can I have my ignorance back?

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CuriousLurker Jul 7, 2016 • 7:28:53am

re: #386 lawhawk

They have no other plan. It’s all smears all the time, ignoring the shitshow on their own side of the ledger.

THIS. We’re going to be forced to endure four months of various GOP members standing up, pointing, and screaming, “SQUIRREL!!1!” at the tops of their lungs.

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darthstar Jul 7, 2016 • 7:29:21am

re: #414 Targetpractice

Comey says DOJ has used “gross negligence” to prosecute someone once in the last 99 years the Espionage Act has existed.

You say ‘gross negligence’ like it’s a bad thing.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:29:26am

Chaffetz wants to know why Comey didn’t investigate her statements to Congress under oath, Comey says he wasn’t given referral to do so, Chaffetz says with a shit-eatting grin that he’ll have it by end of day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 7:30:49am

re: #424 darthstar

Dear god. Can I have my ignorance back?

cannot un-ring the cowbell

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Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 7:31:12am

re: #379 Targetpractice

“‘I’m disinclined to acquiesce to your request.”

Means ‘no’.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:31:19am

Chaffetz trying to accuse Comey of making political answers, Comey comes back in saying that he can’t make definitive answers based upon hypotheticals.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 7:31:29am

re: #423 Targetpractice

Comey says that the FBI has no basis to conclude Hillary lied to them while under oath.

shooting the pony again.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:31:44am

Chaffetz just said he’s going to ask FBI to investigate whether HRC lied to Congress re the emails. #HereWeGo

— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) July 7, 2016

Because they hope yet another wasteful excuse of an investigation will ultimately come out the way the GOP needs it to - finding her at fault for something. Not just at fault, but criminally at fault.

They tried this with Benghazi. Now they’re on the same tact with emails.

Meanwhile, the NRA/GOP refuses to hold hearings about the incessant slaughter of blacks at the hands of law enforcement. They wont hold hearings about the endless killings due to lax and uneven gun laws around the nation. But emails are the be-all and end-all of GOP doctrine.

Time to go there: GOP delenda est.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:32:41am

Chaffetz wants to know what Comey would do if Hillary was an FBI employee, gets told that it depends on what was done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 7:33:30am

re: #432 lawhawk

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Because they hope yet another wasteful excuse of an investigation will ultimately come out the way the GOP needs it to - finding her at fault for something. Not just at fault, but criminally at fault.

They cannot let this scandal end, it is their only hope of keeping some sort of horse race alive…

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 7, 2016 • 7:33:53am

White friends. Know this. I am not your outlet for white guilt. I am not the place where you can stop to feel outraged so you can continue with your day knowing you’ve done your part. I am not a repository for your “sorry’s,” your sadness, your declarations of how much the murder of black human beings affects you too.
I expect you to come here, maybe learn some shit, get some bearings, and then GET TO WORK.
If you cannot take this pain and truth which we are so generously offering up to you as we try to survive and then, with haste, get to work dismantling the oppressive system of White Supremacy in which you are a stakeholder, then you are of no use to me and I don’t have room for you here.
I don’t care. I don’t care. I don’t care. Fuck your feelings.

Ijeoma Oluo

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:34:23am

Cummings comes out of the gate beating GOP over the head with their insistence that Petraeus was treated “worse,” laying out how big the difference is.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:35:32am

Comey laying out the difference, that Petraeus’ actions were intentional and that he lied to the FBI about what he’d done.

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Mattand Jul 7, 2016 • 7:36:22am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

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Since when is “beautiful looks” a qualification for VP?

Trump’s frigging kids are starting to worry me as much as he does. A second generation of entitlement and contempt for anything approaching a grip on reality.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:36:40am

.@SpeakerRyan, @jasoninthehouse & other GOP ignore history, facts and logic in attacking @HillaryClinton. SS/DD https://t.co/Qmj9fl9f8f

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 7, 2016

Alright, GOP. You want to talk about Benghazi? Putting this on blast again.

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), Oct. 2012. pic.twitter.com/mcyPRGWdgH

— Alan Kestrel (@AlanKestrel750) June 29, 2016

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:37:20am

Comey says out loud that the situation is actually reversed: Petraeus did a lot worse, lied about it, and the DOJ made the decision.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 7:38:00am

Some Jewish Trumporrhoids are telling me that Jared and Ivanka are the modern-day Mordecai and Esther, but I see them more as Ahab and Jezebel.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:38:09am

Gowdy putting on his prosecutor act, beating answers out of Comey.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 7:38:23am

re: #432 lawhawk

Chaffetz just said he’s going to ask FBI to investigate whether HRC lied to Congress re the emails. #HereWeGo
— David Corn

IN AN ELECTION YEAR?!?!?!?!??!?!

LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

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Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 7:40:11am

JFC

Texas officials already moving to put new regs on #abortion providers, just days after #HB2 SCOTUS ruling https://t.co/SKK62A7URl #txlege

— Lauren McGaughy (@lmcgaughy) July 7, 2016

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:40:25am

Gowdy trying to out-prosecute Comey.

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Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 7:41:01am

I hate Gowdy he is one person I would have hit if I knew him growing up.

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Sherlock Hound Jul 7, 2016 • 7:42:25am

re: #435 SoundGuy 2016

I read her establishment.co site. Good writer.

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darthstar Jul 7, 2016 • 7:42:39am

re: #434 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They cannot let this scandal end, it is their only hope of keeping some sort of horse race alive…

They’re only hope of a close race for the White House is to dump Trump in two weeks and run Romney or some other asshole again. Trump is doing everything he can to hand this election to Clinton, and the GOP sees it. Double down on bigotry? Sure! Throw in some anti-semitic imagery? No problem! Double down defending that? Why not! Every time something happens that causes stress in her campaign, he bails her out with another over the top stunt and we go through another week of outrage at how awful he is.

She’s going to beat Trump by a landslide, and she doesn’t even have to campaign. She just has to give speeches where she points at him and says, “Look at that shit.” Not how I imagined our first woman president taking office.

And I know she’s going around talking about college and wages and the threat of terror, but all that gets reported is the Trump dig, because that’s all the media wants to hear. If she ignored Trump for three or four campaign speeches, they’d be apoplectic about her lack of courtesy. Why is she ignoring her competition? This has never been done before. It’s rude… But trading barbs isn’t. Go figure.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:43:36am

Gowdy ends his treating of Comey as a hostile witness by suggesting that Hillary Clinton needs to be prosecuted just to set a precedent that such people will be prosecuted, no matter how weak the case against them is.

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jaunte Jul 7, 2016 • 7:44:26am

re: #446 Tigger2

I hate Gowdy he is one person I would have hit if I knew him growing up.

“…the lop-headed Javert of what’s left of the Benghazi, Benghazi, BENGHAZI! Affair”
esquire.com

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:45:28am

re: #449 Targetpractice

I want to prosecute Gowdy for such a lax understanding of the law and how prosecutions work, but that’s not how any of this works. Gowdy seems to think that people can be prosecuted just on the feels (except when it comes to prosecuting cops who kill black people, in which case the bar is so unbelievably high that it’s near impossible to get an indictment, let alone conviction).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 7:45:41am

re: #448 darthstar

And I know she’s going around talking about college and wages and the threat of terror, but all that gets reported is the Trump dig, because that’s all the media wants to hear. If she ignored Trump for three or four campaign speeches, they’d be apoplectic about her lack of courtesy. Why is she ignoring her competition? This has never been done before. It’s rude… But trading barbs isn’t. Go figure.

This is one of the most screwball campaigns I have ever experienced, and will go down in history as one of the Great Outliers, like the 1860 election.

I see a few parallels: the GOP falling apart like the Democratic party did that year, and that in broad swathes of the US (mostly the former Confederacy) Hillary will simply not be acknowledged as Chief Executive.

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Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 7:46:01am

Gowdy lied and Comey obliged. While she had several devices, they were at one at ta time, not at the same time. But, you know, Gowdy has to get on a plane.

These people are disgusting.

They can set up this fucking farce in 48 hours, but don’t have the time to address immigration, jobs, gun, infrastructure…etc.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 7:46:11am

re: #449 Targetpractice

Gowdy ends his treating of Comey as a hostile witness by suggesting that Hillary Clinton needs to be prosecuted just to set a precedent that such people will be prosecuted, no matter how weak the case against them is.

IOW, a police state.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:47:21am

Comey denies that the announcement of his recommendation was timed for the Obama campaign speech. Also denies that his recommendation was based upon a “bribe” offered to Lynch by the Clintons.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 7:48:02am

re: #455 Targetpractice

Comey denies that the announcement of his recommendation was timed for the Obama campaign speech. Also denies that his recommendation was based upon a “bribe” offered to Lynch by the Clintons.

He denied it! See…HE’S LYING!!!

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:49:30am

Jim Jordan running over the same rut that the GOP has already made in the ground, insisting that the evidence is enough to go to a grand jury.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:51:54am

I’m not really sure that the GOP wants to focus entirely on this talking point that there’s a different set of standards for politicians. Really, REALLY bad idea.

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jaunte Jul 7, 2016 • 7:52:07am

Comey says there were classification markings in about 3 emails (State Dept said 2 emails were call sheets marked classified by “mistake”).
— Michelle Ye Hee Lee (@myhlee) July 7, 2016

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jaunte Jul 7, 2016 • 7:52:30am

So, one email.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:52:43am

The American People Are On 2 Your BullShit ! @TGowdySC @SpeakerRyan #PhoneyCommittee #WitchHunt 😠 @JamesComeyFBI pic.twitter.com/nvPGS0mWh6

— @towman883 (@9a1e6c8a99984e2) July 7, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 7:52:56am

re: #458 Targetpractice

the GOP wants to focus entirely on this talking point that there’s a different set of standards for DEMOCRATIC politicians.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Jul 7, 2016 • 7:53:45am

If Comey’s decision wasn’t politically based (I don’t think it was) if all of this is just more Republican BS (which I think it is) I hope Comey kicks their asses. They are now questioning his and the FBI’s integrity.

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Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 7:54:16am

I would have liked to have seen all of the Emails Bush and Co deleted.

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 7:54:32am

Trump’s Jewish son-in-law under fire from own family over his craven position on Trump’s anti-Semitic tweets https://t.co/epalgb9eza

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 7, 2016

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:54:50am

Jordan basically spent his time trying to suggest that Hillary’s lawyers destroyed evidence.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:57:39am

D.C. Delegate Norton pointing out that there’s virtually few to no rules that bind members of Congress to use classified systems, that all sorts of classified material could be on their personal email accounts.

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Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 7:57:55am

LOL

Indiana GOP to Trump: Take Mike Pence, please (CNN) https://t.co/giPPTegHvE https://t.co/frQVKwO9tP

— memeorandum (@memeorandum) July 7, 2016

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 7:59:07am

re: #465 lawhawk

Trump’s Jewish son-in-law under fire from own family over his craven position on Trump’s anti-Semitic tweets

this will quickly be spun into “People who attack Jews are anti-Semites” and it will be repeated and re-tweeted without criticism…

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 7:59:18am

Democrats are taking the logical route, saying if we’re going to obsess over this case, we should do something constructive with it. If the laws are not adequate to deal with such activities, then we need such laws passed. That putting her on trial is not going to address the very real problems with the handling of classified material in the federal government.

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ObserverArt Jul 7, 2016 • 7:59:41am

re: #356 SoundGuy 2016

Chuccubus is no different than the racist twitter scum that tweets out ‘hook nose jew’ graphics and KKK stuff. He’s a horrible person.

I wonder if CJ “Rage” Johnson is aware of the fact he too is a member of a minority that is often looked down on due to a physical characteristic.

Red Hair.

Of course someone as block-headed as he might not be aware he is pre-judged by his hair color because he is too damn busy putting others down.

What a sad excuse for a human he is.

Oh yeah…Again we get another bad demonstration of the policing problem in this country and why Black Lives Matter. I still say this needs to be addressed by the Democratic party. Someone needs to stand up to the FOP groups all over this country. Someone needs to get the good cops to speak out and stand up for a reworking of policing in this country. It fucking sucks.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:00:21am

Police reform should be on the lips of every local politician in this country bc they should know they will not get your support without it
Ok? I shouldn’t have to do this. I shouldn’t have to process this and lay it all out while I’m fucking crying but I did so take some action.

Ijeoma Oluo getting real.

I can’t recommend enough the need to reach out and connect with other people on social media. Especially for me, a whitebread suburb raised kid now in middle age with no black friends. After Mike Brown was shot I started connecting on Twitter then followed on Facebook many BLM people, and then more and more black folk. And just STFU and took it all in for a while.

Now to figure out what to do.

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Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:00:28am

So, Chaffetz says he’ll give the FBI authority to put Hillary under oath. Can Comey ask her to interview again, under oath?

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Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 8:01:28am

re: #473 Jenner7

So, Chaffetz says he’ll give the FBI authority to put Hillary under oath. Can Comey ask her to interview again, under oath?

What difference would it make? It’s a federal crime to lie to federal law-enforcement.

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Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 8:01:56am

re: #473 Jenner7

So, Chaffetz says he’ll give the FBI authority to put Hillary under oath. Can Comey ask her to interview again, under oath?

“Just make sure the interview is on Nov 6th, and played on all of the news networks.”

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:02:00am

DeSantis trying again to get Comey to say he would deny security clearance to Hillary.

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Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:04:49am

This, right here, is the GOP campaigning for Trump. This, right here, should be fucking illegal.

Sorry, but I’m livid that our tax payer dollars are being spent on this bullshit.

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ObserverArt Jul 7, 2016 • 8:05:25am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

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Since when is “beautiful looks” a qualification for VP?

This is the Trump Family you are talking about. Image is part of the con.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:05:31am

DeSantis asks Comey if Hillary set up server to shield emails, Comey offers opinion that she did it out of convenience.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 8:06:40am

re: #463 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

If Comey’s decision wasn’t politically based (I don’t think it was) if all of this is just more Republican BS (which I think it is) I hope Comey kicks their asses. They are now questioning his and the FBI’s integrity.

this will probably play well to the know-nothing, teaparty crowd. But to the rest of us, it’s just more partisan, conspiracy mongering, argle-bargle

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:07:02am

If the GOP was hoping today would be a major propaganda boon, they’re gonna leave very disappointed. Comey is not playing to the script they wrote at all.

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A wild WITHAK appeared! Jul 7, 2016 • 8:07:06am

re: #472 SoundGuy 2016

I’ve been following @deray for the same reason.

For all its ills, Twitter sometimes is good for something.

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Ming5000 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:07:42am

To those posting updates from the GOP Comey Sweat Meeting, thank you.

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Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:07:46am

I hope Comey remembers this and screws some of these Republican assholes if he gets the chance.

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Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:08:29am

Seems like that problem goes hand-in-hand with the problem of classifying info that doesn’t need to be classified https://t.co/PXa1bujN9w

— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) July 7, 2016

Comey: “Root of the problem is people using unclassified systems to conduct business that is classified.” Key point. Not unique to Clinton.

— Shane Harris (@shaneharris) July 7, 2016

But Hillary is being made an example.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 8:08:30am

re: #478 ObserverArt

This is the Trump Family you are talking about. Image is part of the con.

He’s running the VP vetting selection like a combination of Miss Universe and Celebrity Apprentice.

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ObserverArt Jul 7, 2016 • 8:08:43am

re: #388 Targetpractice

So I tune into CSPAN to watch the Comey questioning…and the first person I see is Jason Chaffetz engaging in concern trolling. Ugh.

He’s the head of the committee so he gets that ‘honor.’

I saw him this morning in a quick interview. I noted he got his curls all lacquer up so they shine, shine, shine for today’s big day on TV.

Why do so many Republicans dress and primp themselves like used car salesman.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:09:00am

Comey asked if Hillary or any member of her staff intentionally broke the law. He says they could not find evidence to support that conclusion.

Asked if the same took any actions to obstruct justice. Again says the FBI found no evidence to support that conclusion.

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Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 8:11:15am

From Daily Kos: Clinton has a plan to protect small business from deadbeats like Donald :

1. Enhance legal protections for small businesses that are repeatedly stiffed by large firms and give them better tools to protect themselves against predatory behavior by large companies. Hillary will increase federal regulatory enforcement for unscrupulous big businesses that have a pattern or practice of using their market power to repeatedly exploit small businesses by not paying them, or otherwise defrauding or deceiving them. She will also make sure that small businesses have expanded means of recourse, such as through banding together to hold these practices accountable in court.
2.Use the leverage of more than $400 billion in federal government contracting to encourage businesses to pay their suppliers in full and on time. Hillary will make sure the government does everything possible to accelerate payments to small businesses, and leverage hundreds of billions of dollars to ensure government contractors pay their suppliers promptly and on time. And she will work to increase the amount of Federal dollars that flow to small businesses.
3.Expand working capital for small businesses so they can thrive and grow, and weather difficulties when larger customers stiff them or do not pay on time. Hillary will expand proven SBA loan guarantee programs that broaden access to working capital, so small businesses can weather periods where they are not paid on time - and thrive, grow, and expand.

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A Mom Anon Jul 7, 2016 • 8:11:16am

re: #453 Jenner7

Didn’t it come out that Gowdy edited documents during the whole Benghazi bullshit to make Hillary Clinton look responsible for that whole mess? Why isn’t HE being investigated?

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:11:38am

this is key: GOP was grooming Comey to be the Good Guy in email story; Lynch as the Villain. script got ripped up; https://t.co/LJyIfFuB8P

— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) July 7, 2016

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:12:29am

Republicans keep bringing up how their constituents don’t understand why Comey didn’t fry Hillary, keep insisting he explain to them something he’s already made pretty clear again and again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 8:13:13am

re: #492 Targetpractice

Republicans keep bringing up how their constituents don’t understand why Comey didn’t fry Hillary, keep insisting he explain to them something he’s already made pretty clear again and again.

At some point he will break down and admit that Hillary bribed/threatened him.

494

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:13:25am

Lummis wastes time actually quoting from Espionage Act because her constituents have been obsessing over it for months, wants him to explain why her constituents don’t have a fucking clue how to read the law.

495

Dr Lizardo Jul 7, 2016 • 8:15:42am

re: #478 ObserverArt

This is the Trump Family you are talking about. Image is part of the con.

You used the word “con” and the word “swindle” popped into my head, so this should be Trump’s campaign song:

Sex Pistols ~ The Great Rock ‘n’ Roll Swindle

496

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:15:48am

This is what happens when your party caters to the lowest common denominator: You find yourself having to make up excuses for their stupidity by suggesting they better understand the law than the people charged with enforcing it.

497

Decatur Deb Jul 7, 2016 • 8:16:03am

It’s 10:15, almost two hours too early to start drinking beer under any civilized rules of behavior.*

*Unless you invoke the Alabama Mid-Summer Mid-Morning Mowing Exemption.

498

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 8:16:06am

re: #487 ObserverArt

He’s the head of the committee so he gets that ‘honor.’

I saw him this morning in a quick interview. I noted he got his curls all lacquer up so they shine, shine, shine for today’s big day on TV.

Why do so many Republicans dress and primp themselves like used car salesman.

In a way, they are used car salesman, trying to sell the same damned car over and over again to the next generation of suckers.

499

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:16:51am

I don’t Comey as being the good guy in this other than he did his job. He did seem to exaggerate for maximum impact during the presser.

500

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:17:10am

That statute says “without authority”. But, she was he SOS, she was the authority. She didn’t need approval to set up that server.

501

wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jul 7, 2016 • 8:17:39am

re: #497 Decatur Deb

It’s 10:15, almost two hours too early to start drinking beer under any civilized rules of behavior.*

*Unless you invoke the Alabama Mid-Summer Mid-Morning Mowing Exemption.

It’s always happy hour somewhere in the world.

502

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:17:46am

re: #497 Decatur Deb

It’s 10:15, almost two hours too early to start drinking beer under any civilized rules of behavior.*

*Unless you invoke the Alabama Mid-Summer Mid-Morning Mowing Exemption.

“Five O’Clock Somewhere” rule can be invoked.

503

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 8:18:10am

re: #496 Targetpractice

This is what happens when your party caters to the lowest common denominator: You find yourself having to make up excuses for their stupidity by suggesting they better understand the law than the people charged with enforcing it.

It is all about “outsiders” vs “elites”, which was the concept that Trump was also using to promote his candidacy.

504

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:19:36am

Click to Reveal

I hope these Republicans know Hillary is not like Obama she will find a way of getting back at them when she’s elected.

505

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:19:47am

Lynch reads Colin Powell’s own words to point out that he did the same thing (used private system to conduct business) and has responded to Congress’ requests for emails by basically blowing them off.

506

Decatur Deb Jul 7, 2016 • 8:20:13am

re: #504 Tigger2

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That’s deplorable.

507

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 8:21:44am

re: #506 Decatur Deb

That’s deplorable.

I do not think that Hillary has any illusions about working with the GOP on anything except promoting their own self-immolation

508

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:22:07am

Lynch again beating into people’s heads that there was clear intent in every case that the GOP tries to hold up as “proof” that Clinton should be prosecuted.

509

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:22:16am

Why is Mark Halperin behind Comey?

510

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:25:58am

So “hundreds of documents marked classified” has now become “3 documents that bore a (C) that says information in a paragraph is confidential.”

511

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:28:32am

Meadows it’s hard for many Americans to believe anything you Republicans in congress say.

512

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 8:28:56am

Happening now: @sethmoulton is reading the names of gun violence victims on the house floor pic.twitter.com/NrDlSgCUm8

— Dorey Scheimer (@DoreyScheimer) July 7, 2016

@sethmoulton ignored notice his time expired, was told he was in breach of house decorum and then the cameras were shut off.

— Dorey Scheimer (@DoreyScheimer) July 7, 2016

513

A Mom Anon Jul 7, 2016 • 8:29:13am

I wish SOMEONE, anyone, would ask these assberets on this committee where all their investigative prowess was when the Bush administration used RNC servers for all their emails before they deleted millions of them? At least 50 people in that administration used outside servers for all their official business and no one batted an eyelash.

I’d love to see a tally of all the taxpayer dollars spent “investigating” the Clintons. I bet that money could have gone to do something valuable like the school lunch program or maybe helping to properly fund the National Park Service. But noooo.

There is no Republican party anymore. We have reactionary, anti government grifters, living off the taxpayers passing themselves off as a political party. I’m sick of these fucking people. Oh, and just as an aside, one of the reasons they’re doing this is to discourage people from participating in their own government. And sadly, it’s working.

514

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 8:30:13am

Love me some @SethMoulton

Whether you agree or disagree with the Iraq War, you’d never hear this from someone who served there: ‘Saddam Hussein was a bad guy, but…’

— Seth Moulton (@sethmoulton) July 6, 2016

515

Ming5000 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:30:17am

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

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Since when is “beautiful looks” a qualification for VP?

Some wonder who else is on the short list:

This former Miss America 2003 comes with the brains to back the looks. She is a former two-time Republican candidate for the 13th Congressional District seat in the State of Illinois. Despite not winning an election, she is a CPAC all-star and is continues to run for office.

Find more VP candidates at : http://www.rantlifestyle.com/2014/03/21/20-hottest-female-republican-politicians/

516

BeachDem Jul 7, 2016 • 8:30:34am

re: #329 lawhawk

Tamir Rice was given less than a second to comply with cops after they drove their police cruiser within feet of Rice - and no one would have had a chance to comply.

He was gunned down almost instantaneously. No chance. No attempt to ascertain what was going on. Murdered.

By someone who should never have been hired by the Cleveland PD in the first place.

517

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 8:32:53am

re: #329 lawhawk

Tamir Rice was given less than a second to comply with cops after they drove their police cruiser within feet of Rice - and no one would have had a chance to comply.

He was gunned down almost instantaneously. No chance. No attempt to ascertain what was going on. Murdered.

Ditto for John Crawford III, who was carrying around a BB gun which he planned on purchasing at Wal-Mart.

518

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:33:53am

Given his concern about officials using personal emails abroad, someone should let Jason Chaffetz know about this… pic.twitter.com/YJmL3r2ayf

— The Briefing (@TheBriefing2016) July 7, 2016

519

Sherlock Hound Jul 7, 2016 • 8:33:53am

re: #512 Franklin

From now on, If Seth isn’t called to order at least once a session, I’m going to ask if he’s sick.

520

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:33:59am

3 emails had portion marking for (C), i.e. confidential. NONE had headers that would mark them as classified.

521

calochortus Jul 7, 2016 • 8:34:31am

I give up-I’ve been trying to get caught up here, but we’re off to do some hiking and then pick peaches today and I’m out of time. So a drive-by with one small sign of hope:
If someone already posted this, my apologies.
SF police spent something like 4 hours yesterday with a black guy with a gun (mentally ill? under the influence? maybe suicidal?) getting him to cooperate and finally into an ambulance to undergo “evaluation.” Traffic messed up big time, but no one hurt.

522

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:35:24am

“Should have known” is not a legal basis for prosecution, you dingbats!

Sorry, moment of steam release. We return to our live coverage.

523

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 8:35:42am

re: #520 Targetpractice

3 emails had portion marking for (C), i.e. confidential. NONE had headers that would mark them as classified.

An all of them were sent to Clinton, right (i.e., not sent by her)?

524

lizardofid Jul 7, 2016 • 8:35:42am

re: #497 Decatur Deb

It’s 10:15, almost two hours too early to start drinking beer under any civilized rules of behavior.*

*Unless you invoke the Alabama Mid-Summer Mid-Morning Mowing Exemption.

*or a bee sting

525

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:36:01am

Duncan now the nth Republican to say that he feels the case is so strong that he could have prosecuted it.

526

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:37:29am

Duncan basically asking Comey to explain the difference between the real legal system and the court of public opinion.

527

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 8:38:12am

re: #517 Timothy Watson

Ditto for John Crawford III, who was carrying around a BB gun which he planned on purchasing at Wal-Mart.

The point of current gun laws, especially in southern states, is to try to intimidate blacks back to they way they were before the 1950-1960s Civil Rights advances. Blacks are supposed to be too afraid to carry a gun and afraid that a white person might have one and use it.

528

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:40:13am

Comey says he knows DOJ prosecutes lots of people for gross negligence, doesn’t agree with it because he wants evidence that there was willful intent.

529

lizardofid Jul 7, 2016 • 8:40:42am

re: #507 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not think that Hillary has any illusions about working with the GOP on anything except promoting their own self-immolation

That’s why Decatur Deb (and I know others here) that are out working to gotv is so critical. We really need to give HRC a congress to work with, or were looking at nothing but more of the same.

530

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:40:54am

re: #520 Targetpractice

So, she probably wouldn’t have noticed. Like any other human being.

531

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:42:39am

Connolly slapping the GOP for the political theater, about how they’re basically spending their time today trying to destroy the credibility of Comey’s investigation. And he’s absolutely right.

532

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:44:16am

Darrell Issa Calls For Government Shutdown If Hillary Is Not Charged https://t.co/FodcZf3w3M
And so the witchhunt goes on.. .
sigh.
— margaret stuart md (@marstu67) July 7, 2016

@marstu67 Issa can FO. Damn Babies.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) July 7, 2016

533

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:44:50am

Connolly basically lays out what the Clinton defense team would have used at trial: 3 emails out of tens of thousands could just as well mean that she wasn’t paying close enough attention during a very busy job.

534

Decatur Deb Jul 7, 2016 • 8:45:12am

re: #529 lizardofid

We’re going to have to make up for an unknown percentage of Bernie’s kids, who are off wandering on a Children’s Crusade.

535

Dr. Matt Jul 7, 2016 • 8:45:39am

Grothman is frothing at the mouth. Cute.

536

BeachDem Jul 7, 2016 • 8:45:45am

re: #396 Targetpractice

And now Elijah Cummings is ripping the GOP apart. How sweet it is.

And as Mark Lippman describes it:

As Ranking Member of the Bengowdy Committee, Elijah Cummings set a standard for the rest of the House Democrats to follow. He blew the lid off the proceedings there with a series of must-read bulletins on the Republican plot to stop Hillary.

Cummings is the Ranking Member of the House Oversight Committee, too, and when he has something to say, never, ever, cut his mic. He has a big booming voice. Okay, Darrell Issa?

537

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:46:09am

Republican is offended that the other side says they are being political.

538

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:46:38am

re: #537 Jenner7

Republican is offended that the other side says they are being political.

Makes sure to slap them with his CIA career.

539

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:46:44am

the guy dramatically raising his voice is upset that anyone would think this hearing is political theater pic.twitter.com/iw4o56koRB

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) July 7, 2016

540

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 7, 2016 • 8:46:45am

re: #201 Kragar

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“They complied!”

541

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:47:17am

“People are concerned” is not a legal standard, moron.

Again, apologies.

542

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:48:08am

Hurd again pushing the “precedence” BS, i.e. Hillary should have been prosecuted just because.

543

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 7, 2016 • 8:50:45am

So, what I’m gathering from all this is that the Republicans on the committee are basically …

TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!!!

544

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:51:42am

Hurd you are disgusted over this? what did you think of your Republican Colleagues writing a letter to the Imams of Iran over the Nuclear Deal. .

545

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:51:57am

This is truly a shit show. Democrats getting to meat of situation, while Republicans keep trying to beat Comey into agreeing with them that Hillary did something illegal and got away with it.

546

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 8:53:54am

re: #545 Targetpractice

This is truly a shit show. Democrats getting to meat of situation, while Republicans keep trying to beat Comey into agreeing with them that Hillary did something illegal and got away with it.

Because they know that if they keep the pressure, he will crack and reveal the entire cabal…

547

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:54:04am

Cartwright again brings up that Comey stated in his speech that it was unanimous that there was nothing on which to make a case.

So much for the “mass exodus of FBI agents” that Fox News told us was going to happen in the event of no indictment.

548

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:56:00am

And now Cartwright brings up that the three documents identified as “classified” were not classified according to the manual, that there was no header and thus a reasonable person could conclude that the (C) did not matter.

549

Decatur Deb Jul 7, 2016 • 8:56:45am

re: #545 Targetpractice

This is truly a shit show. Democrats getting to meat of situation, while Republicans keep trying to beat Comey into agreeing with them that Hillary did something illegal and got away with it.

She did do something stupid, and if she weren’t running against Fuckface von Clownstick that would probably bother me.

550

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:58:13am

Buck brings up numerous levels of intent in criminal law, “knowingly and willfuly” at the top. Comey says he only prefers to recommend charges when “knowingly and willfully” can be proven.

551

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 8:59:28am

Buck asks if “willfully” appears anywhere in the statute, Comey says that DOJ and judicial system impute that a suspect know that the actions that they’re engaging in are illegal.

552

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 8:59:34am

America woke up to yet another tragedy of a life cut down too soon. Black Lives Matter. #PhilandoCastile -H

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) July 7, 2016

553

plansbandc Jul 7, 2016 • 8:59:56am

Thanks for watching this for us. After listening to fascist yam last night, no way could I deal with more high level R derp today.

554

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 8:59:59am

re: #549 Decatur Deb

She did do something stupid, and if she weren’t running against Fuckface von Clownstick that would probably bother me.

Imagine if she were running against Powell right now.

555

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:00:12am

She didn’t need authorization for setting up a server.

556

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:00:49am

The Republicans in congress acting like this is just how and why they got someone like Trump as their presidential candidate.

557

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:01:25am

Duckworth on deck. Grab the popcorn.

558

lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 9:03:13am

NEW: Comey confirms the 3 emails “marked” classified were not properly marked.

— Jesse Lehrich (@JesseLehrich) July 7, 2016

The more you look at this, the more you see that GOP dominated Congress doesn’t care about security or even facts. The GOP just wants Hillary indicted, and doesn’t care that she didn’t do anything criminal.

559

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:03:30am

Again, Democrats are all on the same message: We need reform to prevent this from happening again. Republicans think that the answer is to prosecute Hillary to “set precedent.”

560

Decatur Deb Jul 7, 2016 • 9:03:47am

re: #555 Jenner7

She didn’t need authorization for setting up a server.

She, and we, would be a couple poll points safer if she hadn’t.

561

blueraven Jul 7, 2016 • 9:03:49am

The republicans have truly fucked themselves again. Better they should have left this alone. Now, it is so clear that although using the private email server was a mistake, there is scant evidence of classified info sent or received. And in those few instances they were not properly marked as such.

562

FormerDirtDart Jul 7, 2016 • 9:04:02am

Apparently there was another mass shooting, somewhere on Earth I’m guessing…

BREAKING: Police: 1 dead, 4 injured — including police officer — after man opens fire on hotel, roadway.
— The Associated Press (@AP) July 7, 2016

563

Ming5000 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:04:27am

re: #497 Decatur Deb

It’s 10:15, almost two hours too early to start drinking beer under any civilized rules of behavior.*

*Unless you invoke the Alabama Mid-Summer Mid-Morning Mowing Exemption.

It is 12:04 PM on my deck in Michigan and you just gave me a great reminder.

564

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:04:56am

re: #558 lawhawk

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The more you look at this, the more you see that GOP dominated Congress doesn’t care about security or even facts. The GOP just wants Hillary indicted, and doesn’t care that she didn’t do anything criminal.

So, basically, she didn’t lie. According to Cartwright’s reading of the manual, if it has no header, it’s not properly classified. So to conclude that she did lie, you have to conclude that the regulations don’t matter.

565

FormerDirtDart Jul 7, 2016 • 9:05:16am

re: #562 FormerDirtDart

Apparently there was another mass shooting, somewhere on Earth I’m guessing…

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Near Bristol, Tennessee apparently

Tennessee police say man shoots at hotel and motorists, one person died and four others hurt. https://t.co/cwfBCaMCnl

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 7, 2016

566

plansbandc Jul 7, 2016 • 9:05:26am

So I’m going to start using trumpster for his fans. I like its similarity to dumpster.

567

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 9:06:10am

re: #560 Decatur Deb

She, and we, would be a couple poll points safer if she hadn’t.

If every email on her server had instead gone through an SoS server, they’d still be screaming about classified emails, and about how she needs to be prosecuted.

568

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 9:06:35am

re: #565 FormerDirtDart

Near Bristol, Tennessee apparently

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Bristol Herald-Courier link:
richmond.com

The person killed was one of their carriers.

569

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:06:51am

“this hearing is not political theater”
actually: pic.twitter.com/X4Mfy3DvOL

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) July 7, 2016

570

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:07:34am

Walberg now basically just slapped Comey across the face by suggesting he doesn’t understand what “intent” means in the law.

571

Decatur Deb Jul 7, 2016 • 9:07:36am

re: #567 Belafon

If every email on her server had instead gone through an SoS server, they’d still be screaming about classified emails, and about how she needs to be prosecuted.

Absolutely, but no need to make it easy for them.

572

Dr. Matt Jul 7, 2016 • 9:07:43am

Grothman is asking Comey to speak on behalf of every federal government employee. Fucking idiot.

573

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 9:08:32am

re: #552 Jenner7

Hillary Clinton
America woke up to yet another tragedy of a ~~life~~ scandal cut down too soon. ~~Black Lives Matter~~ Congressional Lies Matter.

574

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:09:21am

So, after weeks of putting Comey on a pedestal, the GOP is suggesting he’s too fucking stupid to do his job properly.

575

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 9:09:36am

re: #571 Decatur Deb

Absolutely, but no need to make it easy for them.

Exactly. Which why I refuse to give into the “she shouldn’t have done what the previous two REPUBLICAN SoS’s did even though it wasn’t against the law.” I’m not going to make it an acceptable talking point.

576

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:10:03am

If these hearings aren’t “Political Theatre” then why the hell is Draco Malfoy asking questions?????

— Franklin (@franklinftw) July 7, 2016

577

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 9:10:39am

re: #574 Targetpractice

So, after weeks of putting Comey on a pedestal, the GOP is suggesting he’s too fucking stupid to do ~~his~~ their job properly.

They know they can’t beat her any other way.

578

blueraven Jul 7, 2016 • 9:11:03am

Comey: “It would be a double standard if she were prosecuted.”

579

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 9:11:44am

re: #578 blueraven

Comey: It would be a double standard if she were prosecuted.

And the Republicans are like “Is that a problem?”

580

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:12:44am

Comey asked if he thinks the DOJ not bringing cases means that he believes the statute defunct, responds that he believes the DOJ doesn’t bring cases because they’re afraid the statute will be challenged and overturned on constitutional grounds.

581

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:14:41am

Did Comey get interference from the White House? None.

Did he get interference from the Clinton campaign? None.

582

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:15:02am

Um, GOP Cong. tells reporter that Trump didn’t know how many Articles were in Constitution. https://t.co/xBAEl4fuzZ pic.twitter.com/rj6Aro3qxe

— Jesse Ferguson (@JesseFFerguson) July 7, 2016

583

blueraven Jul 7, 2016 • 9:15:06am

Comey is pretty damn amazing; intelligent, extremely knowledgeable of the subject matter, the applicable law, and very cool under pressure.

584

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:15:51am

Imagine if Republicans cared about governing as much as they cared about using taxpayer money to destroy people they can’t beat at the polls
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) July 7, 2016

585

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:16:22am

Has any member of the committee read all 30,000 emails at question? No.

Did any member of the committee sit in on all the witness interviews? No.

Has any member of the committee reviewed all the evidence? Not to his knowledge.

586

TK-421 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:16:58am

re: #572 Dr. Matt

Grothman is an idiot’s idiot. A rare gem.

587

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 9:17:49am

re: #567 Belafon

If every email on her server had instead gone through an SoS server, they’d still be screaming about classified emails, and about how she needs to be prosecuted.

Because it would be TOTALLY HER FAULT when the government servers got hacked.

588

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 9:17:56am

re: #582 Jenner7

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But the GOP loves the Constitution, don’t cha know?

589

blueraven Jul 7, 2016 • 9:18:21am

Oh lord, here we go. Are you kidding me?

590

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 9:18:43am

re: #581 Targetpractice

Did Comey get interference from the White House? None.

Did he get interference from the Clinton campaign? None.

Their stony silence on the matter was enough to intimidate him…

591

Decatur Deb Jul 7, 2016 • 9:18:59am

re: #583 blueraven

Comey is pretty damn amazing; intelligent, extremely knowledgeable of the subject matter, the applicable law, and very cool under pressure.

Perhaps they’d like to try another 11 hours of Hillary inquisition. That went well.

592

BeachDem Jul 7, 2016 • 9:19:08am

re: #582 Jenner7

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As Charles P. Pierce succinctly puts it:

Nuclear codes? I wouldn’t let this guy know my zip code.

esquire.com

593

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:19:25am

Questioning the timing. Mein gott.

594

TK-421 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:20:15am

Comey’s editorializing tee’d this little farce up.

595

blueraven Jul 7, 2016 • 9:20:18am

re: #589 blueraven

Oh lord, here we go. Are you kidding me?

Mica, with photos and timeline beginning with Clinton Lynch meeting through to Comey statement. Conspiracy!!

596

blueraven Jul 7, 2016 • 9:22:56am

re: #595 blueraven

Mica, with photos and timeline beginning with Clinton Lynch meeting through to Comey statement. Conspiracy!!

Comey was a bit incensed at that insinuation.

597

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:24:12am

Mica makes sure to keep alive the conspiracy theory that Comey was in on some grand conspiracy.

598

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:24:40am

My backyard:

DORCHESTER: multiple ppl (incl a female) shot, 100 blk of Hancock st, shooter Still at large, tons of BPD handling #1208pm

— ((( STACO COMM ™ ))) (@stacos) July 7, 2016

599

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:24:50am

Eric Trump Says His Sister Should be VP: ‘She’s Got The Beautiful Looks’ (VIDEO) https://t.co/ySt1LJauhH #NeverTrump pic.twitter.com/SRo4B6NvKk

— FreakOutNation (@FreakOutNation) July 7, 2016

Oh. my. god.

600

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:25:00am

Mica meet with some of your Dem consitituents and see what they think.

601

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 9:25:41am

re: #599 Jenner7

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Oh. my. god.

Odo should really STFU.

602

Jayleia Jul 7, 2016 • 9:26:37am

re: #599 Jenner7

So…dad was saying creepy stuff about daughter, son saying creepy stuff about sister…

*plays “Dueling Banjos on Stradivarius violins*

603

CuriousLurker Jul 7, 2016 • 9:27:11am

I’m just gonna leave this here. BBL

“If you’re afraid of people who don’t look like you, turn in your gun!” #PhilandoCastile pic.twitter.com/fHyResOVXN

— Puesto Loco (@PuestoLoco) July 7, 2016

604

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:28:30am

This hearing was supposed to be about Hillary Clinton and what she did.

It’s become about Comey defending himself against conspiracy theories and attacks on his character.

605

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:28:42am

re: #602 Jayleia

So…dad was saying creepy stuff about daughter, son saying creepy stuff about sister…

*plays “Dueling Banjos on Stradivarius violins*

Or a plot to a new mashup show of “Meet the Duggars” and “Sister Wives”

606

Kryptik: Just Done With It. Jul 7, 2016 • 9:30:05am

re: #570 Targetpractice

Walberg now basically just slapped Comey across the face by suggesting he doesn’t understand what “intent” means in the law.

But GOP politicians are the highest authority in everything, whether it be climate science or law enforcement! If they don’t know the true meaning of that, then who would?! It’s not like they’re partisan or anything, right?!

607

blueraven Jul 7, 2016 • 9:30:26am

Guccifer hack was a lie: Comey

608

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:30:55am

@SpeakerRyan Did the Director of National Intelligence formally or informally laugh in your face?

— Franklin (@franklinftw) July 7, 2016

609

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:31:00am

How many Gov computers were hacked in that same time period.

610

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:31:01am

Comey confirms that Guccifer was lying about hacking her server because he admitted it was a lie.

611

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 9:31:10am

re: #606 Kryptik

But GOP politicians are the highest authority in everything, whether it be climate science or law enforcement! If they don’t know the true meaning of that, then who would?! It’s not like they’re partisan or anything, right?!

and the Constitution…fer chrissakes, don’t forget the Big C

612

Dr. Matt Jul 7, 2016 • 9:31:58am

What a complete and utter dog-and-pony show.

613

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 9:32:19am

Re: the alleged antisemitic smear uttered by Hillary in fucking 1974. Here are some details that cast doubt on the alleged three witnesses.

nytimes.com

Oppenheimer’s story began unraveling on its own. His principal source, Paul Fray, was an Arkansas political consultant who managed Bill Clinton’s unsuccessful campaign for Congress in 1974, and Fray’s claim that in a violent argument the night the returns came in, Hillary used a profanity-ridden anti-Semitic slur is clearly meant to be Oppenheimer’s smoking gun. He devotes an entire chapter — Hillary Uses the ‘J’ Word” — to the incident, determined that it should be seen not as isolated anomaly but as proof of entrenched prejudice lurking in the heart of a woman who would pass herself off to the world as unfalteringly P.C. ”Unfortunately,” Oppenheimer writes ominously, ”this was neither the first nor the last time Hillary would use such a slur.” By way of evidence, he cites a history of anti-Catholic and anti-Jewish sentiment in the Rodham family (Hillary’s mother had a Jewish stepfather she didn’t like) and a video produced by an anti-Clinton group in which Larry Patterson, the former Arkansas state trooper whose reports of Bill Clinton’s sexual peccadilloes were published in The American Spectator in 1994, testifies that Bill and Hillary used to hurl anti-Semitic slurs at each other.

By now, Fray’s account looks highly suspect. His nearest Jewish ancestor, it turns out, was not his father, as Oppenheimer had it, but a paternal great-grandmother. More damning, though Fray and his wife have been enthusiastic contributors to Clinton books and articles over the years, they had, inexplicably, never mentioned this incident to any other reporter. Neil McDonald, a campaign worker Oppenheimer places in the room where the exchange allegedly took place, now says that he was actually just outside the door.

614

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 9:32:59am

re: #610 Targetpractice

Comey confirms that Guccifer was lying about hacking her server because he admitted it was a lie.

As everybody with a brain knew already.

615

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 9:33:03am

Two black victims of police violence were legally carrying firearms.

The NRA has ignored them both. https://t.co/4vOVsFbpBZ

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) July 7, 2016

616

Dr. Matt Jul 7, 2016 • 9:33:14am

Farenthood looks dizzy from not eating for 5 minutes.

617

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:34:21am

Farenthold wants to know why she broke the law but not prosecuted, Comey lays out that if somebody worked for him and did the same, he would not prosecute them. Would discipline them, but not prosecute them.

618

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:34:53am

re: #612 Dr. Matt

What a complete and utter dog-and-pony show.

Are any of these Republicans in Congress old enough to remember how well the last time they overstepped on a Clinton worked out for them.

619

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 9:35:43am

Not not one GOP congressman has asked Comey why Hillary wasn’t waterboarded. These guys are slipping. #RINOS

— TBogg (@tbogg) July 7, 2016

620

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:36:05am

“What do we have to do to get Hillary prosecuted?” —Farenthold, pretty much

621

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:36:49am

re: #604 Targetpractice

This hearing was supposed to be about Hillary Clinton and what she did.

It’s become about Comey defending himself against conspiracy theories and attacks on his character.

No one could have predicted.

Please proceed…..

622

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:37:41am

re: #599 Jenner7

Oh. my. god.

OFFS

623

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:37:48am

Even Comey not familiar with concept of retro-classification.

624

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:38:08am

re: #604 Targetpractice

This hearing was supposed to be about Hillary Clinton and what she did.

It’s become about Comey defending himself against conspiracy theories and attacks on his character.

Give the GOP a pony, and they’ll shoot it in the face.

625

The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 9:38:35am

re: #566 plansbandc

So I’m going to start using trumpster for his fans. I like its similarity to dumpster.

I call them Trumporrhoids.

626

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:39:15am

re: #597 Targetpractice

Mica makes sure to keep alive the conspiracy theory that Comey was in on some grand conspiracy.

This should go over well.

627

Lidane Jul 7, 2016 • 9:39:26am

Statement from Saint Paul Public Schools about Philando Castile. Coworker: “Kids loved him.” @ABC #PhilandoCastille pic.twitter.com/IBrMHXULFP

— Karen Travers (@karentravers) July 7, 2016

628

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:39:28am

Statement from Saint Paul Public Schools about Philando Castile. Coworker: “Kids loved him.” @ABC #PhilandoCastille pic.twitter.com/IBrMHXULFP

— Karen Travers (@karentravers) July 7, 2016

629

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:40:14am

re: #628 Franklin

Statement from Saint Paul Public Schools about Philando Castile. Coworker: “Kids loved him.” @ABC #PhilandoCastille pic.twitter.com
— Karen Travers

Did they know he was a black gangster?

///

630

Dr. Matt Jul 7, 2016 • 9:40:36am

Someone noted on SiriusXM that over the last 2+ decades, Republicans have spent over $200K investigating bullshit Clinton non-controversies….and the only thing they uncovered was a BJ.

631

FormerDirtDart Jul 7, 2016 • 9:41:02am

re: #582 Jenner7

Rep. Mark Sanford on Trump meeting: “I wasn’t particularly impressed. It was the normal stream of consciousness, long on hyperbole.”
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) July 7, 2016

More Sanford: When asked about Article I powers, Trump said he’d protect “all of them,” down to Article 12. “There is no Article 12.”
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) July 7, 2016

Rep. Morgan Griffith on Trump’s “Article 12” gaffe: “I just assumed he was talking about the amendments, because he was off on the numbers.”
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) July 7, 2016

632

Romantic Heretic Jul 7, 2016 • 9:41:18am

re: #558 lawhawk

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The more you look at this, the more you see that GOP dominated Congress doesn’t care about security or even facts. The GOP just wants Hillary indicted, and doesn’t care that she didn’t do anything criminal.

They’re looking forward to the day when being a member, or accused of being a member, of the Democratic Party is a capital offence, and they can get rid of the ‘jury of peers’ bullshit as well.

Accuse ‘em. Kill ‘em. Problem solved.

633

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:41:26am

Hice again floating the damned “timing” conspiracy theory. Fuck me.

634

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:41:36am

When our FBI director isn’t familiar with the re-classification, but Hillary should have know what was classified is just fucking insane.

635

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 9:41:54am

Does the whole Trump family fuck each other? Because it sure looks like it.

half-/

636

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:42:09am

Hice FO you’ll have Trump he is worse than Hillary could ever be,

637

Kryptik: Just Done With It. Jul 7, 2016 • 9:42:31am

re: #630 Dr. Matt

Someone noted on SiriusXM that over the last 2+ decades, Republicans have spent over $200K investigating bullshit Clinton non-controversies….and the only thing they uncovered was a BJ.

That money amount seems…impossibly low.

638

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:42:41am

re: #592 BeachDem

As Charles P. Pierce succinctly puts it:

Nuclear codes? I wouldn’t let this guy know my zip code.

esquire.com

I must be sure to not read Charles Pierce while on a crowded bus. Or while trying to drink.

639

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:43:01am

They keep bringing up the same damned “if she was somebody else” hypothetical, as if they hope Comey will slip up and say they’d be prosecuted.

640

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 9:43:09am

re: #631 FormerDirtDart

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Fixing the electoral college in the Twelfth Amendment was really important and Trump will defend it to the death.

641

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 9:43:24am

I welcome these conspiracy theories. Just makes them look more pathetic.

642

The Great Eye Jul 7, 2016 • 9:43:34am

re: #329 lawhawk

Tamir Rice was given less than a second to comply with cops after they drove their police cruiser within feet of Rice - and no one would have had a chance to comply.

He was gunned down almost instantaneously. No chance. No attempt to ascertain what was going on. Murdered.

I had a guy on facebook argue with me that it was a clean shoot. He both explained to me that Tamir reached for his shirt which made the cops kill him and that Tamir “Disrespected their authority” which was the most insane I’d ever heard. Kid had maybe a second to react to a cop car rolling up on him and then he’s dead and it’s his fault. It’s crazy how much people will give police the benefit of the doubt.

643

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:43:44am

re: #633 Targetpractice

Hice again floating the damned “timing” conspiracy theory. Fuck me.

I’m sure the liberal media at MSNBC like Mark Halperin and Morning Joke will find this compelling.

644

The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 9:43:57am

re: #635 Nyet

Does the whole Trump family fuck each other? Because it sure looks like it.

half-/

They are The Aristocrats

645

Romantic Heretic Jul 7, 2016 • 9:44:25am

re: #568 Timothy Watson

Police say multiple people have been injured and one person was taken into custody after a man opened fire on motorists traveling along a parkway in East Tennessee.

Guess why this person was taken alive?

646

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:44:36am

re: #639 Targetpractice

They keep bringing up the same damned “if she was somebody else” hypothetical, as if they hope Comey will slip up and say they’d be prosecuted.

Is someone going to throw in the white towel for the GOP here?

647

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:44:55am

re: #631 FormerDirtDart

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@daveweigel Yeah, because who the fuck needs the 13th amendment anyway?

— Franklin (@franklinftw) July 7, 2016

648

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:44:58am

Hice grilling Comey on whether Clinton should be disciplined because John Doe would be disciplined, but Comey points out that if John Doe was in the same boat (i.e. retired from government service), there’s no way he could discipline him.

649

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:45:06am

re: #641 Jenner7

I welcome these conspiracy theories. Just makes them look more pathetic.

…I welcome their hatred.
FDR

650

Skip Intro Jul 7, 2016 • 9:45:23am

re: #635 Nyet

Does the whole Trump family fuck each other? Because it sure looks like it.

half-/

It certainly does. I wonder if part of Ivanka’s marriage contract says Donald gets to use her a couple of times a month.

651

Romantic Heretic Jul 7, 2016 • 9:45:51am

re: #579 Belafon

And the Republicans are like “Is that a problem?”

Never stopped us before.

652

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:46:06am

re: #631 FormerDirtDart

I’m actually a big fan of Article 12.
///

653

Stanley Sea Jul 7, 2016 • 9:46:30am

haha

If you mess with @JeffFlake you best not miss @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/AQxBfDHSCS pic.twitter.com/nxfkSZbsI2

— Shoshana Weissmann (@senatorshoshana) July 7, 2016

654

Dr Lizardo Jul 7, 2016 • 9:46:48am

re: #644 The Vicious Babushka

They are The Aristocrats

Of course, now I have no choice but to post this.

NSFW - strong language

Click to Reveal

the aristocrats

655

Big Beautiful Door Jul 7, 2016 • 9:47:23am

re: #637 Kryptik

That money amount seems…impossibly low.

I’m pretty sure they spent millions on Benghazi alone.

656

FormerDirtDart Jul 7, 2016 • 9:47:36am

re: #653 Stanley Sea

HOT damn, feisty story from @PhilipRucker https://t.co/L3E2JAFF3a pic.twitter.com/ZQXnD1Q2OE

— andrew kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) July 7, 2016

657

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 9:48:31am

re: #652 Sir John Barron

I’m actually a big fan of Article 12.
///

Trump is a big fan of Chapter 11, though…

658

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:50:33am

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

The Most Corrupt Candidate Ever Is Donald Trump https://t.co/opfmBVhr5v via @intelligencer

— Don Cheadle (@DonCheadle) July 6, 2016

@doncheadle @intelligencer @realkidpoker stick to acting only Don and dont ruin Rounders 2 please stay out of it.

— Keith Cosentino (@KeithCosentino) July 7, 2016

So glad you reached out. I didn’t know who was going to eat this extra dick that I have. Sending it right over. https://t.co/uOsV5PUaE8

— Don Cheadle (@DonCheadle) July 7, 2016

659

Big Beautiful Door Jul 7, 2016 • 9:51:18am

re: #629 Sir John Barron

Did they know he was a black gangster?

///

Exercising Second Amendment rights while Black is a capital offense./

660

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:51:51am

So even in the one case in 99 years that somebody was charged under “gross negligence,” he plead to a different crime.

661

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 9:52:01am

65,432 updings!

I live for life’s random milestones

662

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 9:52:15am

Comey must be thinking - I gave you guys a gift and you decided to throw it in my face. So I’m taking it back.

— Armando (@armandodkos) July 7, 2016

663

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 9:52:20am

re: #658 Franklin

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Have I mentioned how glad I am that Marvel dumped Terrence Howard for him?

664

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:52:23am

re: #656 FormerDirtDart

The GOP convention should be fun.

665

7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) Jul 7, 2016 • 9:52:54am

re: #497 Decatur Deb

It’s 10:15, almost two hours too early to start drinking beer under any civilized rules of behavior.*

*Unless you invoke the Alabama Mid-Summer Mid-Morning Mowing Exemption.

Or the “it’s time to play disc golf” exemption.

666

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:53:11am

re: #661 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

65,432 updings!

I live for life’s random milestones

Whats’ protocol here? Do we upding this? Or up/down in even increments to maintain balance? I’m afraid.

667

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 9:53:19am

Serena asked how it feels to be called one of greatest female athletes of all time: “I prefer ‘one of the greatest athletes of all time’.”

— Owen Gibson (@owen_g) July 7, 2016

668

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:53:26am

re: #662 Backwoods_Sleuth

Comey must be thinking - I gave you guys a gift and you decided to throw it in my face. So I’m taking it back.
— Armando

“Did you guys not watch my press conference? I gift wrapped this for you. And now you’re peeing on my leg.”

669

BeachDem Jul 7, 2016 • 9:53:28am

re: #631 FormerDirtDart

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If anyone knows about “stream of consciousness” ramblings, it’s Mark Sanford!

Mark Sanford in His Own Words: Some of his 18 min Ramblings of Apologies, Excuses and Affair Reveal

670

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 9:53:48am

re: #644 The Vicious Babushka

They are The Aristocrats

Oh, that reminded me of that dirty little flick Society.

Totally NSFW. And don’t watch before a meal.

Click to Reveal

Society Ending

671

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 9:53:54am

re: #666 Franklin

Whats’ protocol here? Do we upding this? Or up/down in even increments to maintain balance?

it is just a fleeting moment, I am working on 100K as a long term goal

672

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:54:34am

Something brewing over in the House…

Dems lining up in House gallery with what appear to be papers with people’s faces on em. And look who’s about to talk: John Lewis

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) July 7, 2016

673

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:54:37am

Massie trying to suggest that somebody in the email chain removed classification markings.

674

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 9:54:56am

GOP Rep Hice: “This a matter of great public interest”
So are the 30,000+ annual #gunviolence deaths. When’s that hearing? #ComeyHearing

— Caroline O. (@RVAwonk) July 7, 2016

675

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:55:09am

re: #672 Franklin

Something brewing over in the House…

PAUL RYAN WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS!!!!!!!111

676

Romantic Heretic Jul 7, 2016 • 9:55:27am

re: #635 Nyet

Does the whole Trump family fuck each other? Because it sure looks like it.

half-/

They probably regard family members as the only people worthy of touching them.

677

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:55:28am

What a smarmy little fuck Massie is.

678

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:56:13am

Cute story: Was telling my 8yo about the sit in in the House since she is a fan of @RepJohnLewis. She was afraid because she doesn’t want him to get hurt. She didn’t want the police to drag him out, or use the firehose on him. That’s my girl.

679

plansbandc Jul 7, 2016 • 9:56:13am

I will never understand why people would vote for an imbecile. I want my President to be incredibly smart.

680

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:56:20am

re: #674 Backwoods_Sleuth

GOP Rep Hice: “This a matter of great public interest to our deluded, conspiracy minded, Clinton hating base.”

681

plansbandc Jul 7, 2016 • 9:56:53am

re: #661 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Oops. :D

682

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 9:57:08am

it seemed clear Comey tried to help GOP on Tues by criticizing Clinton. unhappy w/ kangaroo court today, he’s giving GOP nothing.

— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) July 7, 2016

683

Romantic Heretic Jul 7, 2016 • 9:57:20am

re: #642 The Great Eye

That guy wasn’t giving police the benefit of the doubt. He was congratulating them on killing a thug, where ‘thug’ is a replacement for the n-word.

684

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 9:57:27am

re: #674 Backwoods_Sleuth

“This is a matter of great public interest to the mouth breathers who listen to talk radio and who will donate to any primary challenger for us.”

685

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 9:57:51am

re: #681 plansbandc

Oops. :D

not to worry, next heads-up will be at 67,890

686

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 9:58:10am

re: #672 Franklin

Something brewing over in the House…

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It’s fun…parliamentary rules fight.

687

FormerDirtDart Jul 7, 2016 • 9:58:39am

SASSE 2020
Because America Shouldn’t Be A Dumpster Fire

Statement from Sasse spokesman: “Nothing has changed.” pic.twitter.com/kvQUnqqNoa

— Ashley Killough (@KilloughCNN) July 7, 2016

688

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 9:58:49am

re: #673 Targetpractice

Massie trying to suggest that somebody in the email chain removed classification markings.

Massie is an idiot.

689

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 9:59:47am

Welp

#BREAKING: House GOP indefinitely delays gun control votes https://t.co/gnJbCNwtcX pic.twitter.com/aIBoxojz8V

— POLITICO (@politico) July 7, 2016

690

Lidane Jul 7, 2016 • 9:59:51am

re: #664 Sir John Barron

The GOP convention should be fun.

I have already broken in my new popcorn maker in preparation for the RNC. I’m also stocking up on margarita mix. It’s going to be horrifying and hilarious in equal measure.

691

Skip Intro Jul 7, 2016 • 9:59:54am

re: #679 plansbandc

I will never understand why people would vote for an imbecile. I want my President to be incredibly smart.

To the imbeciles who will be voting for him he is.

692

Big Beautiful Door Jul 7, 2016 • 10:00:19am

re: #668 Sir John Barron

“Did you guys not watch my press conference? I gift wrapped this for you. And now you’re peeing on my leg.”

The GOP and the Trump campaign should be focused like a laser beam on Clinton being reckless and untrustworthy. Instead they’re talking conspiracy theories and Disney coloring books. Hillary is very lucky in her enemies.

693

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 10:01:09am

re: #686 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s fun…parliamentary rules fight.

THIS is how “political theatre” is done.
And done very well.

694

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:01:16am

re: #689 Franklin

Welp

[Embedded content]

Who could have predicted?

695

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 10:02:12am

re: #658 Franklin

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

So Cheadle’s character on House of Lies may only require a little acting on his part.

696

lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 10:02:30am

re: #615 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s the WNRA. [White] National[ist] Rifle Association.

When an org that claims to be devoted to the literal 2A where everyone has a right to bear arms, but is silent when blacks are gunned down despite being legally entitled to own/bear said arms (and they weren’t at issue in the stops in any event), you have to realize the NRA isn’t about guns, but about peddling fear/insecurity to angry white people.

So that those angry/insecure white people buy more guns.

697

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 10:03:35am

re: #692 Big Beautiful Door

The GOP and the Trump campaign should be focused like a laser beam on Clinton being reckless and untrustworthy. Instead they’re talking conspiracy theories and Disney coloring books. Hillary is very lucky in her enemies.

And of course their nominee is Trump.

698

Skip Intro Jul 7, 2016 • 10:03:38am

re: #694 Targetpractice

Who could have predicted?

The GOP needs to get smart. If they brought up a gun control bill that only applied to blacks (for their own protection) the NRA would be fully on board.

699

mmmirele Jul 7, 2016 • 10:05:04am

re: #669 BeachDem

If anyone knows about “stream of consciousness” ramblings, it’s Mark Sanford!

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He’s got nothing on Enid Greene (Waldholtz). She was a GOP Congresswoman from Utah. She held a *four hour* press conference in December 1995 after it came out that her then-husband, Joe Waldholtz, had basically been embezzling from her father to pay for their high-flying lifestyle and her congressional campaign in 1994. I don’t know if that press conference is available, but at the time it was considered the height of stream of consciousness.

700

BeachDem Jul 7, 2016 • 10:05:08am

re: #695 Belafon

So Cheadle’s character on House of Lies may only require a little acting on his part.

Marty Kaan—the badass of badasses!

701

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 10:05:16am

Serena Williams delivering another killer line in that press conference. #wimbledon #serenawilliams pic.twitter.com/0l9RZGl7DG

— Laura Winter (@lauracwinter) July 7, 2016

702

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:06:34am

It could have been hacked, sure. No evidence it was.

We know there is evidence that the state department was hacked.

Hillary for Prison 2016

703

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 10:06:44am

re: #699 mmmirele

He’s got nothing on Enid Greene (Waldholtz). She was a GOP Congresswoman from Utah. She held a *four hour* press conference in December 1995 after it came out that her then-husband, Joe Waldholtz, had basically been embezzling from her father to pay for their high-flying lifestyle and her congressional campaign in 1994. I don’t know if that press conference is available, but at the time it was considered the height of stream of consciousness.

Video link from CSPAN:
c-span.org

704

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:07:09am

GOP’s entire case against Hillary can be summed up in four words: “It could have happened.”

She could have known, she could have done this/that, her server could have been hacked, could have, could have.

Criminal cases are not based upon “could have,” they’re based upon what you can prove. And Comey’s been clear, he can’t prove any of these, so that’s why there are no charges.

705

FormerDirtDart Jul 7, 2016 • 10:07:28am

@PhilipRucker pic.twitter.com/jh4CxhEuj5

— Ryan Jackson (@RTJackson77) July 7, 2016

706

lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 10:07:31am

Breaking: Gretchen Carlson’s lawyers say they intend to subpoena Judith Regan to testify… https://t.co/8N8IAkiEJP

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) July 7, 2016

707

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 10:08:10am

re: #701 Franklin

I saw this morning that Venus is the oldest woman playing at Wimbledon.

708

Dr Lizardo Jul 7, 2016 • 10:08:33am

re: #663 Timothy Watson

Have I mentioned how glad I am that Marvel dumped Terrence Howard for him?

I would love to see Miles Ahead, but no film distributor has picked it up here in the Czech Republic for release. :(

709

Lidane Jul 7, 2016 • 10:08:47am

This is an official, on-the-record quote from a sitting senator’s spokesman. https://t.co/XPNY1Xk3fN pic.twitter.com/6tsqLlzXmj

— Sonny Bunch (@SonnyBunch) July 7, 2016

710

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:08:52am

5 committees holding hearings or investigating FBI over Clinton decision - https://t.co/IBfiOGeaP0

— Reid Wilson (@PoliticsReid) July 7, 2016

711

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 10:08:59am

h/t @Gus_802:

Here’s a thought: if you don’t believe in compromise and incremental progress, you probably don’t belong in democratic politics

— (((Yair Rosenberg))) (@Yair_Rosenberg) July 7, 2016

712

mmmirele Jul 7, 2016 • 10:11:44am

Holy…crap. The short fingered vulgarian would even top the half-term governor:

Would Donald Trump Quit if He Wins the Election? He Doesn’t Rule It Out

Presented in a recent interview with a scenario, floating around the political ether, in which the presumptive Republican nominee proves all the naysayers wrong, beats Hillary Clinton and wins the presidency, only to forgo the office as the ultimate walk-off winner, Mr. Trump flashed a mischievous smile.

“I’ll let you know how I feel about it after it happens,” he said, minutes before leaving his Trump Tower office to fly to a campaign rally in New Hampshire.

It is, of course, entirely possible that Mr. Trump is playing coy to earn more news coverage. But the notion of the intensely competitive Mr. Trump’s being more interested in winning the presidency than serving as president is not exactly a foreign concept to close observers of this presidential race.

nytimes.com

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Kragar Jul 7, 2016 • 10:13:31am

We’ll wait till after November then, when the House GOP will no longer be an issue.

GET OUT AND VOTE. @politico @MaddowBlog

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 7, 2016

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Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:13:48am

re: #712 mmmirele

I’m speechless. I….

Wha…

715

Lidane Jul 7, 2016 • 10:13:57am

honestly
honestly
honestly
what did GOP opposition researchers ACTUALLY DO during the primaries? Because its clear you didnt look up Trump

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) July 7, 2016

Short answer? None. The GOP failed to do even the minimum amount of opposition research on Trump because they didn’t think they needed to. They assumed that the poo flinging howler monkeys in the GOP base wouldn’t be stupid enough to nominate Trump.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 10:14:24am

re: #712 mmmirele

Holy…crap. The short fingered vulgarian would even top the half-term governor:

nytimes.com

This is a very serious candidate for president.

717

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:16:06am

re: #710 Jenner7

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@PoliticsReid 5 waste of Tax Payer money.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) July 7, 2016

718

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:16:42am

This @normcoleman piece is something: Trump is “a bigot. A misogynist. A fraud. A bully.”https://t.co/ngR0ONbvR6

— Paul Kane (@pkcapitol) July 7, 2016

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 10:17:42am

re: #715 Lidane

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Short answer? None. The GOP failed to do even the minimum amount of opposition research on Trump because they didn’t think they needed to. They assumed that the poo flinging howler monkeys in the GOP base wouldn’t be stupid enough to nominate Trump.

You fucked up! You trusted us to do the right thing. /GOP base

After decades of indoctrinating the angry white base with irrational hate, fear, and insecurity, the GOP has no one to blame but themselves for this. They refused to engage Trump on his bigotry, because they needed the bigot brigade votes. They still do, which is why they haven’t kicked Trump to the curb. They want to have a party with none of the responsibility - it’s the same approach they’ve taken with governing.

It’s why they govern by obstructionism and investigation. That’s not leadership. It’s a witch hunt.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 7, 2016 • 10:18:13am

Guys, here’s your reminder that past crimes totally make it acceptable for police to kill black men without cause.

At least according to one of our resident trolls. I wonder how he’s going to spin this next one. (Not really.)

721

Bubblehead II Jul 7, 2016 • 10:19:06am

You all of course know wheres this is heading.

The repubs are trying to lay the ground work for impeaching HRC when/if she wins the general for purgery/lying to congress during her Benghazi testimony.

722

lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 10:19:52am

re: #720 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Even if the prior record were true and accurate, the cop had no way to know who was in the car at the time. He shot and killed him before he could even present ID.

Chucky’s bullshit remains bullshit.

723

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:20:10am

re: #721 Bubblehead II

You all of course know wheres this is heading.

The repubs are trying to lay the ground work for impeaching HRC when/if she wins the general for purgery/lying to congress during her Benghazi testimony.

Ayep. And sadly, Comey opened that door with his editorializing.

724

Big Beautiful Door Jul 7, 2016 • 10:20:51am

re: #722 lawhawk

Even if the prior record were true and accurate, the cop had no way to know who was in the car at the time. He shot and killed him before he could even present ID.

Chucky’s bullshit remains bullshit.

Hard to believe he could work at a school if that was true.

725

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:21:09am

re: #721 Bubblehead II

You all of course know wheres this is heading.

The repubs are trying to lay the ground work for impeaching HRC when/if she wins the general for purgery/lying to congress during her Benghazi testimony.

If we get the Senate it won’t go well for them.

726

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:21:16am

Comey admits his announcement was unprecedented BECAUSE he wanted to show this had nothing to do with politics.

727

dangerman Jul 7, 2016 • 10:21:17am

“Flake stood up to Trump by urging him to stop attacking Mexicans. Trump predicted that Flake would lose his reelection, at which point Flake informed Trump that he was not on the ballot this year.”

More: Trump Has Tense Meeting with Senate Republicans : Political Wire

he just says stuff.
and it’s mostly demonstrably wrong.
how does he keep getting away with it?

728

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 7, 2016 • 10:22:00am

re: #722 lawhawk

Even if the prior record were true and accurate, the cop had no way to know who was in the car at the time. He shot and killed him before he could even present ID.

Chucky’s bullshit remains bullshit.

Oh, this one is about Alton Sterling. Not last night’s murder.

I’m sure he’ll have something to say about last night’s murder too, about how the victim somehow did something that made this more justifiable or lessens his non-existent outrage or what they should have done to avoid the situation, because that would be the sum total of what he ever offers as commentary.

729

Lidane Jul 7, 2016 • 10:22:02am

this storyhttps://t.co/MRYyxVDeNm

it’s hard to sum up something this fucking crazy in a tweet

maybe a gif pic.twitter.com/lyGZXIW3kr

— Jason Linkins (@dceiver) July 7, 2016

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Skip Intro Jul 7, 2016 • 10:22:17am

re: #715 Lidane

They “knew” that they could control him.

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Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 10:22:17am

re: #725 Tigger2

If we get the Senate it won’t go well for them.

I would like to believe that the House doing this would guarantee Democrats control of the house in 2018.

732

Dave In Austin Jul 7, 2016 • 10:22:36am

This clip is all you need to know about the so-called “marked” emails sent to Hillary Clinton.https://t.co/DHE2LuQOy2

— The Briefing (@TheBriefing2016) July 7, 2016

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 10:22:49am

re: #721 Bubblehead II

You all of course know wheres this is heading.

The repubs are trying to lay the ground work for impeaching HRC when/if she wins the general for purgery/lying to congress during her Benghazi testimony.

Say hello to President Warren, then, GOP.

734

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:22:53am

re: #725 Tigger2

If we get the Senate it won’t go well for them.

They’re looking for something, anything to run on. So telling voters that a vote for them means a vote for convicting her is going to drive up participation.

735

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:22:58am

re: #720 klys (maker of Silmarils)

WTF is that shit is still doing here.

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Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 10:23:38am

re: #720 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Guys, here’s your reminder that past crimes totally make it acceptable for police to kill black men without cause.

At least according to one of our resident trolls. I wonder how he’s going to spin this next one. (Not really.)

What does it take for someone to get the banhammer around here? Guy has -200 karma.

737

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:24:33am

re: #734 Targetpractice

They’re looking for something, anything to run on. So telling voters that a vote for them means a vote for convicting her is going to drive up participation.

It will probably drive up ours to.

738

Skip Intro Jul 7, 2016 • 10:24:56am

re: #729 Lidane

Just one more reason to assume one of his kids will be VP. As I keep saying, it’s going to be Ivanka.

739

Teukka Jul 7, 2016 • 10:24:57am

re: #736 Timothy Watson

What does it take for someone to get the banhammer around here? Guy has -200 karma.

My hunch? For a 1:100 overkill factor on a +3 banhammer use, you need at least -300 karma.
*ducks*

740

Dr. Matt Jul 7, 2016 • 10:25:17am

“Honest people don’t need to lie”
~GOP quote of the day.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:25:36am

re: #732 Dave In Austin

Masterful.

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Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 10:25:37am

re: #722 lawhawk

re: #724 Big Beautiful Door

We are conflating the two here. Philando Castille worked in the St Paul school system and was in the car when he was shot. Alton Sterling has the alleged crime when he was 20.

Also, this from @quadcitypat

Answer he was 20 and convicted of carnal knowledge with a minor which according to LA statute 14:80 means over 15 https://t.co/nBU6YUTw09

— Patrick (@QuadCityPat) July 7, 2016

If the minor was under 15 the charge would have been aggravated, per LA statute. Google is a thing https://t.co/ePe2VJvyIv

— Patrick (@QuadCityPat) July 7, 2016

And yes as a child abuse investigator I can say there’s a huge difference between 20/16 year old sex and pedophilia.

— Patrick (@QuadCityPat) July 7, 2016

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:26:05am

re: #736 Timothy Watson

What does it take for someone to get the banhammer around here? Guy has -200 karma.

Buck had over -9000…

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 7, 2016 • 10:26:24am

re: #742 Franklin

The depressing thing is that it’s hard to keep track of which murder we’re talking about because there are so many.

745

Dr. Matt Jul 7, 2016 • 10:26:34am

re: #727 dangerman

More: Trump Has Tense Meeting with Senate Republicans : Political Wire

he just says stuff.
and it’s mostly demonstrably wrong.
how does he keep getting away with it?

Trump predicted that Flake would lose his reelection, at which point Flake informed Trump that he was not on the ballot this year.”

Trump also called out Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL) “as a loser”

Wow. How Presidential.

746

lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 10:27:01am

re: #742 Franklin

Think you’re right. My bad.

It’s nearly impossible to keep each of the blacks gunned down by cops straight when they’re happening practically on a daily basis.

747

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 10:27:11am

For the eleventy-millionth time: “As previously announced, the request for unanimous consent can not be entertained.”
The GOP guy sitting in the Speaker’s chair (as well as the GOP Rep. from Alabama) are probably wondering who the hell they pissed off in the GOP House leadership to get today’s assignment to spend the day doing this.

748

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 7, 2016 • 10:27:14am

re: #743 Nyet

Buck had over -9000…

I do wonder if a clear reference to reading Upchuck’s site and citing it in a non-ironic fashion would be enough…

749

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:27:21am

Again, the “precedence” BS. Give it up!

750

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:27:45am

I would like to see all of the Republican Congressman’s Emails just to see how much confidential material is on them.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:28:23am

re: #748 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I do wonder if a clear reference to reading Upchuck’s site and citing it in a non-ironic fashion would be enough…

Hopefully.

752

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 10:28:34am

re: #740 Dr. Matt

“Honest people don’t need to lie”
~GOP quote of the day.

Honest men don’t have to be told over and over that what they’re saying is wrong.

753

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 10:28:34am

re: #750 Tigger2

I would like to see all of the Republicans Emails just to see how much confidential material is on them.

the ones on their gmail accounts?

754

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 10:28:37am

re: #743 Nyet

Buck had over -9000…

He’s got -14,009 and is still here.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 7, 2016 • 10:28:48am

re: #751 Nyet

Hopefully.

Worth bringing it to Charles’ attention, at least. >.>

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jul 7, 2016 • 10:29:00am

re: #754 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s got -14,009 and is still here.

Shhhhhhhhhhh, don’t say his name.

757

lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 10:29:01am

re: #750 Tigger2

Considering that Chaffetz gives out his gmail address for official business? I’m betting that most would flunk an email security audit, let alone the investigation that the GOP pushed on the Clintons.

758

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:30:01am

re: #756 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Shhhhhhhhhhh, don’t say his name.

I am Buck and I am here to… sorry, wrong movie.

759

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 10:30:14am

This should be grounds for dismissal alone:

re: #21 mroop

The reliable Charles C. Johnson is reporting on his awarding winning web site….

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Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:30:19am

re: #753 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the ones on their gmail accounts?

All of them, Personial.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 10:30:36am

re: #756 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Shhhhhhhhhhh, don’t say his name.

You will notice I did not.
:D

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lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 10:30:53am

re: #759 Franklin

Well, that bit could be construed as sarcasm. The rest of it? Nope. Just nope.

763

blueraven Jul 7, 2016 • 10:32:20am

Rep. Louie Gohmert says FBI didn’t do all it could with Hillary interview: “They didn’t have time to vet her statement and look for crimes.”
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) July 7, 2016

764

The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 10:32:32am

Hillary’s campaign releases another ad

Donald Trump’s victims: Andrew Tesoro | The Briefing

She is relentless and will keep on hammering.

765

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:33:14am

re: #764 The Vicious Babushka

She’s got the BEST team. Sad! (For Trump)

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:33:23am

re: #763 blueraven

Oh

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GOHMERT! is a fucking moron.

767

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 10:33:53am

re: #763 blueraven

Oh

Rep. Louie Gohmert says FBI didn’t do all it could with Hillary interview: “They didn’t have time to vet her statement and look for crimes.”

Because that’s not how our system works, Louie.

768

KGxvi Jul 7, 2016 • 10:34:15am

re: #725 Tigger2

If we get the Senate it won’t go well for them.

Don’t even need to win the Senate. They need two-thirds to convict in an impeachment trial. If the GOP somehow ends up with 67 seats in the Senate, Hillary Clinton will not be president and most of us will be exploring ex-pat lifestyles. One would think that they would have learned this lesson after impeaching Bill Clinton, one would, sadly, be wrong.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 10:34:20am

re: #763 blueraven

Oh

The world is conspiring against Gohmert’s party.

770

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:35:12am

The longer I listen to this, the harder I find I have to fight not to jam a knitting needle into my temple to make it end.

771

BeachDem Jul 7, 2016 • 10:35:33am

re: #766 Targetpractice

GOHMERT! is a fucking moron.

And he was a judge—scary.

772

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 10:36:15am

Dinosaurs on the ark #ArkPark pic.twitter.com/DBr1kBvjPi

— Linda Blackford (@lbblackford) July 7, 2016

sigh…

773

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:36:22am

This guy seems incensed that Comey followed the law.

774

lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 10:36:30am

re: #770 Targetpractice

Think that’s part of the point. Get the opposition so worn down that they accept some action no matter how unrelated or uncalled for it may be.

775

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:36:34am

Good God, Hillary had Tec People taking care of her server.

776

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:36:56am

re: #764 The Vicious Babushka

Powerful.

777

No Depression Jul 7, 2016 • 10:37:03am

wIGZmwgqVGismL1fUJgJRxfO7O9wxrkN4zb+kzY2gxfVMd1Y2pBfI2DBsFdaVRvhpKfs1Lqc55VL8PLUYKor8Pu027sBWs0uu7cA+1J4Ivwu0YsXjCBITHtcRsUqra2cL1P+nRL5NX2/KUeN36vDMl+KkGZuQxpHNDCFSTYe/VWf7k+d/wVWOQXg64y8wppSlqe2T93iYISeQwXo2zGEyQ4gj17+mggZ6EJOQVYCR++7kpkCmJdHO0EDvSvvOXTS3nw9Ij6As2g21RUFbE4N8wcWrVWEfPGdrIlFKR83VO9jGIQ+tKD9P+2AkBCQI6NFGZY9YsNNwCd2DGE5Bc0ZjycjwHkeQGKyYeCabmbiH0GZ4y4B7ZFh7lpkDHka8KlblsGC9+WGprpYZzt9b4Nd+5sRizsavnSp

778

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:37:34am

Wow, this guy is a moron.

779

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:38:14am

Thank you, Georgia, for this fucking idiot.

780

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 7, 2016 • 10:38:16am

re: #745 Dr. Matt

Wow. How Presidential.

I think Trump’s discovering just how limited his usual approach of bullying and domination works with people whose power is not dependent on him in any way.

You can bully employees, investors, contractors and creditors, because you have power over them - you just refuse to pay them and dare them to sue you. Members of Congress, and especially Senators, aren’t subservient to the President, even of their own party, and cannot easily be brought to heel by threats, especially childish ones.

781

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:38:31am

No Carter you heard a gasp from wingnuts not all Americans.

782

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:38:50am

BUT WHY DIDN’T YOU JUST PROSECUTE HER?!?! WHY?!?

783

KGxvi Jul 7, 2016 • 10:39:41am

re: #752 Belafon

Honest men don’t have to be told over and over that what they’re saying is wrong.

Good men don’t need rules

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No Depression Jul 7, 2016 • 10:40:06am

re: #772 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sigh…

Wow, Pat Robertson really looks different! Did he get some work done on his face?/

785

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:40:24am

re: #782 Jenner7

BUT WHY DIDN’T YOU JUST PROSECUTE HER?!?! WHY?!?

That’s what this all boils down to. They tuned in Tuesday, listened to his long editorial, and all popped wood over what they expected was going to be the long-awaited recommendation for indictment. But then he said he wasn’t making such a recommendation and they immediately got blue balls. And they’re pissed at him because he got them all worked up and then blue balled them.

786

lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 10:40:28am

re: #772 Backwoods_Sleuth

Proof! We built this idiotic diorama on taxpayer dime and it shows dinosaurs coexisted with people. Flinstones was a documentary.

And wait… wut? Someone in Noah’s family was black?

787

Ming5000 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:40:37am

re: #675 Sir John Barron

PAUL RYAN WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS!!!!!!!111

I sort have noticed this before, but now am semi-sure; do people add the 1’s at the end of the string of exclamation points in order to convey frantic outraged key mashing?
Serious question

788

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:40:45am

Mulvaney is lying his ass off.

789

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 10:40:52am

re: #783 KGxvi

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I was thinking about exactly that. I just can’t get on youtube at work.

Edit: And that is my favorite scene with Matt Smith as the Doctor. I love how he conveys the underlying fury the Doctor would have if completely unrestrained, which we saw a part of at the beginning of the episode.

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CuriousLurker Jul 7, 2016 • 10:41:24am

re: #756 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Shhhhhhhhhhh, don’t say his name.

re: #761 Backwoods_Sleuth

You will notice I did not.
:D

Speaking of…

Are we ever gonna get a mute button?
It can be something simple where we enter the nics of ppl we want to mute then all we see when they comment is something like this:

re: #20 mroop

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 10:41:31am

re: #786 lawhawk

Proof! We built this idiotic diorama on taxpayer dime and it shows dinosaurs coexisted with people. Flinstones was a documentary.

And wait… wut? Someone in Noah’s family was black?

A pair of Blacks was collected like all the other animals…
////

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 10:42:13am

re: #787 Ming5000

I sort have noticed this before, but now am semi-sure; do people add the 1’s at the end of the string of exclamation points in order to convey frantic outraged key mashing?
Serious question

pretty much

793

BeachDem Jul 7, 2016 • 10:42:38am

And, in case anyone forgot:

Those times when Clinton’s accusers—Chaffetz and Gowdy—had a few classified slips of their own

In July of 2011, the Washington Post reported accusations that his Transportation panel “illegally” leaked “sensitive security information” from the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to the media.

The following year, Chaffetz bypassed leaks altogether and just blabbed the classified stuff on live television…

And then there’s Trey Gowdy, who’s led the endless string of Benghazi inquiries, airing the name of a CIA asset last year

dailykos.com

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Brian J. Jul 7, 2016 • 10:43:18am

re: #786 lawhawk

Proof! We built this idiotic diorama on taxpayer dime and it shows dinosaurs coexisted with people. Flinstones was a documentary.

And wait… wut? Someone in Noah’s family was black?

One of the classic excuses for slavery, the Curse of Ham:

en.wikipedia.org

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Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 10:43:44am

re: #787 Ming5000

I sort have noticed this before, but now am semi-sure; do people add the 1’s at the end of the string of exclamation points in order to convey frantic outraged key mashing?
Serious question

Yes. First I saw was something like this:

IMPEACH!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111eleventyone

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:43:50am

I’m reaching the LD₅₀ level for derp.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 7, 2016 • 10:43:54am

re: #786 lawhawk

Proof! We built this idiotic diorama on taxpayer dime and it shows dinosaurs coexisted with people. Flinstones was a documentary.

And wait… wut? Someone in Noah’s family was black?

Lemme see if I can’t scare up some tax subsidies for this thing…

Flintstones Bedrock City in Arizona on Sale for $2 Million, Brontosaurus Included

798

CuriousLurker Jul 7, 2016 • 10:44:17am

re: #787 Ming5000

I sort have noticed this before, but now am semi-sure; do people add the 1’s at the end of the string of exclamation points in order to convey frantic outraged key mashing?
Serious question

Yes, see eleventy.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:44:17am

“Precedence” again.

ARGH!

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Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:44:34am

Did Democrats leave? They’ve had three straight Republicans asking questions.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:45:21am

re: #800 Jenner7

Did Democrats leave? They’ve had three straight Republicans asking questions.

I wouldn’t blame them. I honestly wouldn’t.

802

FormerDirtDart Jul 7, 2016 • 10:46:23am

So, Comey’s statement Tuesday provided the GOP with plenty of “ammunition”. But, instead of just accepting it as presented, they decided to disassemble it, but lost the instructions on how to put it back together…
It’s like a Christmas sweater, but before trying it on, they thoroughly washed it in hot water, despite it being labeled dry clean only

803

Brian J. Jul 7, 2016 • 10:47:10am

re: #801 Targetpractice

I wouldn’t blame them. I honestly wouldn’t.

Are they near the end? Committees in the House have the majority of members from the majority party, usually slightly exaggerating their proportion of House members.

804

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:47:25am

They keep saying she broke the law.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 7, 2016 • 10:47:40am

This whole thing, not just the emails, not just Benghazi, but the whole GOP obsession with HRC is really like being a stalker.

You hear her tell you that she’s not interested, but you can’t stop yourself. Some part of you knows that your actions are getting creepier and creepier and more and more threatening, but you just can’t stop yourself thinking that if you could only just say the right words in the right order, she’ll realize it’s you she really loves.

Same for the Right in this case. There are saner voices telling them to take his fairly scathing initial statement and run with that, that it’s enough to do damage. But they can’t stop themselves. They think if they can just say the right words in the right order, he’ll realize he should recommend prosecution.

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No Depression Jul 7, 2016 • 10:48:07am

re: #793 BeachDem

And, in case anyone forgot:

Those times when Clinton’s accusers—Chaffetz and Gowdy—had a few classified slips of their own

In July of 2011, the Washington Post reported accusations that his Transportation panel “illegally” leaked “sensitive security information” from the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to the media.

The following year, Chaffetz bypassed leaks altogether and just blabbed the classified stuff on live television…

And then there’s Trey Gowdy, who’s led the endless string of Benghazi inquiries, airing the name of a CIA asset last year

dailykos.com

Gotta love that old-fashioned GOP hypocrisy:

1990s: Let’s smear Bill Clinton with Monica Lewinsky even though we’re cheating fucks ourselves!

2016: Let’s smear Hillary Clinton with classified information even though we’re loose with it ourselves!

807

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 10:48:23am

Has anyone at this hearing mentioned Comey is a Republican? I sense most wingnuts/Fox News viewers might not know.

808

jaunte Jul 7, 2016 • 10:48:24am

re: #804 Jenner7

They kept saying she broke the law.

It’s a faith-based prosecution.

809

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:48:47am

Gowdy rides again. KEE-RIST!

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Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 10:49:16am

re: #807 Sir John Barron

Has anyone at this hearing mentioned Comey is a Republican? I sense most wingnuts/Fox News viewers might not know.

He’s the GOP establishment that’s in cohorts with Hillary to stop Trump.

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Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:49:22am

re: #807 Sir John Barron

Has anyone at this hearing mentioned Comey is a Republican? I sense most wingnuts/Fox News viewers might not know.

Yes…Democrats have mentioned it. Republicans seems to have disowned him.

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BeachDem Jul 7, 2016 • 10:49:25am

re: #788 Jenner7

Mulvaney is lying his ass off.

Geez—it looks like they tried to find the most moronic GOOPers in the House and put them all on this committee. What a conglomeration of assholes.

oversight.house.gov

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Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:50:08am

And if her intent was to keep them secret, WHY DID SHE KEEP THE EMAILS FOR TWO YEARS?!?!!

Jesus fucking christ.

Sorry, I know there are Christians here, but c’mon.

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:51:23am

re: #813 Jenner7

And if her intent was to keep them secret, WHY DID SHE KEEP THE EMAILS FOR TWO YEARS?!?!!

Jesus fucking christ.

Sorry, I know there are Christians here, but c’mon.

I’m pretty sure that if Jesus is up there, he’s also saying “fucking Me, those dumb Republicans”. //

815

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:52:09am

Comey now seeming to openly regret the press conference Tuesday.

816

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:52:21am

Cummings up now..

817

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:53:10am

The Republicans in office are some pathetic bitches. Sorry to any women on here I’m just sick of them.

818

FormerDirtDart Jul 7, 2016 • 10:54:43am

Comey to Rep. Mica: “Look me in the eye and listen to what I’m about to say” https://t.co/HR2ZQnzXuw | Getty pic.twitter.com/H9JLQy0iOz

— POLITICO (@politico) July 7, 2016

819

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:54:43am

Melania on Trump: “He’s not Hitler.”
Ivanka on Trump: “He’s not a groper.”
Kushner on Trump: “He’s not anti-Semitic”

— Gideon Resnick (@GideonResnick) July 6, 2016

820

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:55:01am

I wonder if Adelson is having second thoughts.

821

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:55:09am

re: #817 Tigger2

The Republicans in office are some pathetic bitches. Sorry to any women on here I’m just sick of them.

Yes, bitches is not a good term to use. Whiny sniveling snotty little cocksplat bitches is the proper nomenclature.

822

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 10:55:14am

This has become the 11 hour interview all over again. The GOP thought it would be an awesome boost for their crusade against Hillary, but instead has become a complete and utter joke.

823

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 10:55:24am

“Would you charge Hillary now?”
“No”
“What about now?”
“No”

20 Hours later

“What about now?”
“No”

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) July 7, 2016

824

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 10:56:15am

re: #822 Targetpractice

This has become the 11 hour interview all over again. The GOP thought it would be an awesome boost for their crusade against Hillary, but instead has become a complete and utter joke.

How could it not have
With so many clowns.

825

ObserverArt Jul 7, 2016 • 10:57:01am

re: #807 Sir John Barron

Has anyone at this hearing mentioned Comey is a Republican? I sense most wingnuts/Fox News viewers might not know.

Yes. I cannot remember who, but early on that point was made.

826

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 10:57:29am

re: #825 ObserverArt

Yes. I cannot remember who, but early on that point was made.

Not a real Republican, obviously.

827

No Depression Jul 7, 2016 • 10:57:48am

re: #822 Targetpractice

This has become the 11 hour interview all over again. The GOP thought it would be an awesome boost for their crusade against Hillary, but instead has become a complete and utter joke.

That’s probably because the GOP is a complete and utter joke. They don’t have any actual policies to offer, just dishonest, blatantly partisan and often hypocritical smear campaigns.

828

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 10:58:46am

re: #823 Jenner7

Maybe the GOP committee will take Comey hostage until he changes his recommendation to prosecute.

829

iossarian Jul 7, 2016 • 10:58:56am

I’ve got to hand it to Comey, he’s demolishing a lot of these chump talking points.

830

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 10:59:28am

re: #829 iossarian

I’ve got to hand it to Comey, he’s demolishing a lot of these chump talking points.

Nice of the GOP House to turn Comey from an ally to an enemy. Good work.

831

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 11:00:04am

Hillary is held to a higher standard than those that ACTUALLY and INTENTIONALLY leak classified information.

832

Targetpractice Jul 7, 2016 • 11:00:05am

What’s horrific about all this is the GOP will come out of it convinced they knocked it out of the park. Why? Because their base will have tuned in, seen they yammering about conspiracy theories and laying out “common sense,” and assume that Republicans came out looking like the smart ones.

BRING ON THE METEORS!

833

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 11:01:09am

;)

@Yair_Rosenberg Trump’s savvy social media team comes through again pic.twitter.com/bl9ra0T7IZ

— Daniel Lin (@DLin71) July 6, 2016

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Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 11:01:55am

re: #831 Jenner7

And certainly to a higher standard than those who tortured and ordered torture.

835

No Depression Jul 7, 2016 • 11:01:55am

re: #831 Jenner7

Hillary is held to a higher standard than those that ACTUALLY and INTENTIONALLY leaking classified information.

Can they be charged with “gross negligence” for that? Maybe Democrats should at least consider going there. Fight fire with fire.

836

lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 11:02:07am

The list of GOPers who ran for President who used personal email to conduct state business is long and distinguished.

That’s a separate question from whether Republicans used personal email and interacted with classified info on those emails. Here, it appears that Chaffetz did that.

We also know Powell did so as did any number of GOPers who were in the Bush Administration when they used RNC email accounts and not official govt emails.

I still believe that any govt organization required to undergo an email security audit would uncover a whole lot of problems. State was hardly alone in this, and that Chaffetz was openly using personal email accounts shows just how easy this can be.

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Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 11:02:08am

So maybe HRC is playing this right after all. I assumed she would need to respond in some detail to Comey’s press conference.

Instead, wait for the GOP House to have a “hearing”.

838

lawhawk Jul 7, 2016 • 11:02:47am

re: #832 Targetpractice

As President, I will open:
• A full investigation into the Clintons’ corruption & abuse of power
• A 400 mile wide hole in Earth’s crust

— Sweet Meteor O’Death (@smod2016) July 6, 2016

839

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 11:03:15am

re: #837 Sir John Barron

She has a great team. I think everything is under control.

840

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 11:04:32am

Sanders to @AlHuntDC: “We have got to do everything that we can to defeat Donald Trump and elect Hillary Clinton.” https://t.co/BCGPdQovUc

— Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) July 7, 2016

841

jaunte Jul 7, 2016 • 11:05:26am

Wow. Senate Republicans are actually trying to pass a BILL OF ATTAINDER against @HillaryClinton. https://t.co/VpsstlPp6C

— Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) July 7, 2016

842

Ming5000 Jul 7, 2016 • 11:05:28am

re: #840 Jenner7

LOL. Too late, Bernie!

843

iossarian Jul 7, 2016 • 11:05:40am

BENGHAZI DRINK

844

Birth Control Works Jul 7, 2016 • 11:06:00am

So, while riding in the passenger seat with my kid, I asked him to change the radio station to something other than news. He asked why? I said I wasn’t listening to any politics until after the election. It’s all rhetoric and I knew how it was going to turn out

How is your day going?

845

jaunte Jul 7, 2016 • 11:06:21am

Senate Republicans apparently worship the Constitution without actually understanding it.

846

FormerDirtDart Jul 7, 2016 • 11:06:34am

This is horribly tragic
Read the article before passing judgement

California authorities say a 3-year-old girl found a loaded gun and fatally shot herself in the head. https://t.co/gIwAlAXoiB

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 7, 2016

847

Birth Control Works Jul 7, 2016 • 11:06:39am

I think Hillary having a Jewish grandchild trumps trumps love of the Jews.

848

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 11:06:57am

re: #840 Jenner7

Good, fuck you anyway.

849

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 11:07:28am

If I were trying to delete emails that revealed I assassinated an ambassador, I wouldn’t leave them on a server two years after I left state.

Because, that’s what Republicans are implying.

850

Birth Control Works Jul 7, 2016 • 11:08:08am

re: #841 jaunte

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If there is any proof needed of the lust for power —it’s our current congress wasting time trying to control the outcome of the election, instead of doing the business of governing the nation.

851

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 7, 2016 • 11:08:24am

re: #833 Nyet

No way. Can’t be real. Please tell me they’re not the completely idiotic and crass. Please?

852

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 11:08:26am

re: #845 jaunte

Senate Republicans apparently worship the Constitution without actually understanding it.

You could swap out Constitution for Bible and it would both be true.

853

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 7, 2016 • 11:09:10am

re: #845 jaunte

Senate Republicans apparently worship the Constitution without actually understanding it.

That’s not the only thing they worship without an actual understanding of.

I’m sensing a pattern here..

854

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 11:09:14am

re: #851 SoundGuy 2016

A joke of course. But totally in his style.

855

Birth Control Works Jul 7, 2016 • 11:09:50am

Did you see the ferrets?

http://www.zooborns.com/zooborns/2016/07/black-footed-ferret-baby-boom-.html

856

Franklin Jul 7, 2016 • 11:10:30am

re: #846 FormerDirtDart

This is horribly tragic
Read the article before passing judgement

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Horrible.

857

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 11:10:38am

Most Bernie supporters are already with her. That ship has sailed, you old turnip.

858

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 11:10:56am

re: #786 lawhawk

Proof! We built this idiotic diorama on taxpayer dime and it shows dinosaurs coexisted with people. Flinstones was a documentary.

And wait… wut? Someone in Noah’s family was black?</blockquote>

Noticed that too, did ya?

:D

859

SoundGuy 2016 Jul 7, 2016 • 11:10:59am

re: #854 Nyet

I assume Lin shopped it. He’s brilliant.

860

wrenchwench Jul 7, 2016 • 11:11:23am

re: #846 FormerDirtDart

This is horribly tragic
Read the article before passing judgement

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I read the article to check the judgment I could not help but to pass upon reading the headline. It did not change: Someone did not store their weapon correctly and needs to be held accountable.

861

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 11:11:45am

re: #844 Birth Control Works

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So, while riding in the passenger seat with my kid, I asked him to change the radio station to something other than news. He asked why? I said I wasn’t listening to any politics until after the election. It’s all rhetoric and I knew how it was going to turn out

How is your day going?

We appreciate the picture and the break from insanity!

862

The Ghost of a Flea Jul 7, 2016 • 11:12:17am

If I wrote a “history” of some distant third-world country where the government just kept trying and investigating people for the same thing until they were found guilty, lots of Americans that support the Benghazi hearings and this current mess with Comey would nod sagely about the folly of it.

863

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 11:13:03am

re: #860 wrenchwench

I read the article to check the judgment I could not help but to pass upon reading the headline. It did not change: Someone did not store their weapon correctly and needs to be held accountable.

Same thought. Not sure about the disclaimer.

864

No Depression Jul 7, 2016 • 11:13:11am

re: #841 jaunte

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Good lord these fuckers are dumb. Don’t they know that the Constitution expressly forbids bills of attainders? Or do their little pocket Constitutions only read FREE GUNS 4 WHITE PPL AND FORCED CHRISTIANITY 4 EVERYONE1!1!1!!!1?

865

Jenner7 Jul 7, 2016 • 11:13:16am

Chaffetz is bad at this.

866

Big Beautiful Door Jul 7, 2016 • 11:13:32am

re: #787 Ming5000

I sort have noticed this before, but now am semi-sure; do people add the 1’s at the end of the string of exclamation points in order to convey frantic outraged key mashing?
Serious question

Yes

867

jaunte Jul 7, 2016 • 11:14:04am

re: #864 No Depression

That’s just how desperate Hillary makes them.

868

iossarian Jul 7, 2016 • 11:14:04am

re: #865 Jenner7

Chaffetz is bad at this.

“Why are you not giving me the answer I want you to give me?”

869

dangerman Jul 7, 2016 • 11:14:35am

re: #860 wrenchwench

I read the article to check the judgment I could not help but to pass upon reading the headline. It did not change: Someone did not store their weapon correctly and needs to be held accountable.

100%
control your weapon at all times.
stiff fines, jail, and lose your 2a privileges.
no second chances.

(as if anyone wondered what my position would be)

870

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 11:14:46am

re: #864 No Depression

Good lord these fuckers are dumb. Don’t they know that the Constitution expressly forbids bills of attainders? Or do their little pocket Constitutions only read FREE GUNS 4 WHITE PPL AND FORCED CHRISTIANITY 4 EVERY1!1!1!!!1?

Why not get their ex post facto lawmaking on and make it illegal for Hillary Clinton to have ever been Secretary of State?

871

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 11:14:48am

re: #868 iossarian

“Why are you not giving me the answer I want you to give me?”

Almost seems as if the GOP didn’t have a plan about this snap hearing of there’s.

872

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 11:15:26am

re: #863 Nyet

Same thought. Not sure about the disclaimer.

I think it was just to short out the immediate “what horrible parents” reaction that is normally fitting in these situations.

873

The Vicious Babushka Jul 7, 2016 • 11:15:29am

Hillary answered bullshit questions for 11 hours. Can you imagine Donald Trump answering questions for 11 minutes? Shoot, he wouldn’t last 11 seconds.

874

Tigger2 Jul 7, 2016 • 11:15:40am

re: #841 jaunte

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@fawfulfan @HillaryClinton Lets revoke Trumps he is to much of a big mouth to have a Security clearance.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) July 7, 2016

875

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 11:16:31am

re: #864 No Depression

Good lord these fuckers are dumb. Don’t they know that the Constitution expressly forbids bills of attainders? Or do their little pocket Constitutions only read FREE GUNS 4 WHITE PPL AND FORCED CHRISTIANITY 4 EVERYONE1!1!1!!!1?

What is a bill of attainder? And yes I prefer an LGF explanation than Wikipedia.

876

Birth Control Works Jul 7, 2016 • 11:16:56am

Been listening to the Audible version of the House of Morgan by Ron Chernow. I really enjoyed his book on Alexander Hamilton and am learning much about the Morgans as well.

He is not quite the writer Robert Caro is, but I think I’ll try to get thru his other books.

Anyway, there seem to be a lot of parallels between the robber barrons and today’s crop of monied elites. They think they are in charge.

877

Timothy Watson Jul 7, 2016 • 11:17:20am

re: #875 Sir John Barron

What is a bill of attainder? And yes I prefer an LGF explanation than Wikipedia.

A bill that targets a single person.

878

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 11:17:27am

re: #875 Sir John Barron

What is a bill of attainder? And yes I prefer an LGF explanation than Wikipedia.

Short form: Being tried for something that was made guilty after you “committed” it.

Nope, I was wrong. But this is also prohibited.

879

Sir John Barron Jul 7, 2016 • 11:17:47am

re: #876 Birth Control Works

Been listening to the Audible version of the House of Morgan by Ron Chernow. I really enjoyed his book on Alexander Hamilton and am learning much about the Morgans as well.

He is not quite the writer Robert Caro is, but I think I’ll try to get thru his other books.

Anyway, there seem to be a lot of parallels between the robber barrons and today’s crop of monied elites. They think they are in charge.

do you listen to audio on a Kindle Fire? Thinking of getting one so I can get Audible.

880

Jay C Jul 7, 2016 • 11:17:48am

re: #719 lawhawk

It’s why they govern by obstructionism and investigation. That’s not leadership. It’s a witch hunt.

Yep; and when they fail to turn up any witches (as they always do), they just claim it was because they were cursed by some spell, and then run off to start up another hunt.

On a more serious note: does anyone think the Democrats have ANY chance to retake the House this year? Making gains and chopping away at the Republican margin is certainly foreseeable: but it just seems like gerrymandering and voter suppression is unfortunately going to keep these buffoons in power for another session.

881

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 7, 2016 • 11:18:11am

re: #871 Sir John Barron

Almost seems as if the GOP didn’t have a plan about this snap hearing of there’s.

Ya think?

Going back to the stalker analogy, although I’m sure they spent HOURS imagining how the first exchanges would go, they didn’t have a contingency plan in case it went differently.

882

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 7, 2016 • 11:19:19am

re: #875 Sir John Barron

What is a bill of attainder? And yes I prefer an LGF explanation than Wikipedia.

Declaring someone guilty legislatively, without trial.

883

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 11:19:29am

re: #878 Belafon

Short form: Being tried for something that was made guilty after you “committed” it.

Google says a legislature declaring someone guilty by fiat, without a trial.
You’re thinking of ex post facto laws?

884

Big Beautiful Door Jul 7, 2016 • 11:21:08am

re: #838 lawhawk

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Maybe I should write in Sweet Meteor O’ Death since Trump is going to easily win Kentucky anyway (ugh).

885

Belafon Jul 7, 2016 • 11:21:15am

re: #883 Nyet

Google says a legislature declaring someone guilty by fiat, without a trial.
You’re thinking of ex post facto laws?

You’re correct. I added a comment about that afterwards. Getting all those messed up.

886

Big Beautiful Door Jul 7, 2016 • 11:22:30am

re: #880 Jay C

Yep; and when they fail to turn up any witches (as they always do), they just claim it was because they were cursed by some spell, and then run off to start up another hunt.

On a more serious note: does anyone think the Democrats have ANY chance to retake the House this year? Making gains and chopping away at the Republican margin is certainly foreseeable: but it just seems like gerrymandering and voter suppression is unfortunately going to keep these buffoons in power for another session.

Slight chance, if Trump is a big enough dumpster fire to seriously depress GOP voting.

887

Birth Control Works Jul 7, 2016 • 11:22:36am

re: #861 Timothy Watson

We appreciate the picture and the break from insanity!

i have lots of graphics!

888

Nyet Jul 7, 2016 • 11:23:44am

re: #887 Birth Control Works

Big baby!

889

Dr Lizardo Jul 7, 2016 • 11:25:10am

re: #864 No Depression

Good lord these fuckers are dumb. Don’t they know that the Constitution expressly forbids bills of attainders? Or do their little pocket Constitutions only read FREE GUNS 4 WHITE PPL AND FORCED CHRISTIANITY 4 EVERYONE1!1!1!!!1?

Thanks for pointing that out……..when I read that, the first thought I had was a flashback to my High School US History class, where I dimly recalled….it being 30 years ago…that a bill of attainder was expressly forbidden by the Constitution.

890

ObserverArt Jul 7, 2016 • 11:25:55am

re: #873 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary answered bullshit questions for 11 hours. Can you imagine Donald Trump answering questions for 11 minutes? Shoot, he wouldn’t last 11 seconds.

He couldn’t hold a conversation with anyone for 30 minutes let alone 11 hours. He admitted that regarding Big Bill’s meet up with Loretta Lynch.

891

Skip Intro Jul 7, 2016 • 11:26:18am

re: #875 Sir John Barron

What is a bill of attainder? And yes I prefer an LGF explanation than Wikipedia.

We have no evidence to convict you so we’re just going to declare you guilty. Illegal under the Constitution and the constitutions of all 50 states.

Of course, legal niceties matter not at all to a mob.

892

Birth Control Works Jul 7, 2016 • 11:28:42am

re: #879 Sir John Barron

do you listen to audio on a Kindle Fire? Thinking of getting one so I can get Audible.

I listen thru my iPhone/bluetooth headset . I just got a kindle fire and am not good at operating it yet. I can barely read a book on it. I don’t even know if it has bluetooth capability.

893

Birth Control Works Jul 7, 2016 • 11:30:13am

re: #884 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe I should write in Sweet Meteor O’ Death since Trump is going to easily win Kentucky anyway (ugh).

Kentucky is one of the weirdest states in the nation. 3rd largest marijuana harvest/ tons of fundamentalist whackos and they vote conservative.

894

No Country For Old Haters Jul 7, 2016 • 12:21:20pm

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

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Since when is “beautiful looks” a qualification for VP?

Wingnuts believe that a woman’s value is in her appearance, but you already know that.

895

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 7, 2016 • 12:44:45pm

Rep Richard Hudson (R-NC) just introduced an amendment to a spending bill that he described as “refusing to fund any regulations by Obama”.

Spy Auto

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