Stunner: Conservative Dallas Morning News Endorses Hillary Clinton

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The editors of The Dallas Morning News are so repelled by Donald Trump that for the first time in 75 years, they’re endorsing a Democrat for president: We recommend Hillary Clinton for president.

There is only one serious candidate on the presidential ballot in November. We recommend Hillary Clinton.

We don’t come to this decision easily. This newspaper has not recommended a Democrat for the nation’s highest office since before World War II — if you’re counting, that’s more than 75 years and nearly 20 elections. The party’s over-reliance on government and regulation to remedy the country’s ills is at odds with our belief in private-sector ingenuity and innovation. Our values are more about individual liberty, free markets and a strong national defense.

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Trump’s values are hostile to conservatism. He plays on fear — exploiting base instincts of xenophobia, racism and misogyny — to bring out the worst in all of us, rather than the best. His serial shifts on fundamental issues reveal an astounding absence of preparedness. And his improvisational insults and midnight tweets exhibit a dangerous lack of judgment and impulse control.

After nearly four decades in the public spotlight, 25 of them on the national stage, Clinton is a known quantity. For all her warts, she is the candidate more likely to keep our nation safe, to protect American ideals and to work across the aisle to uphold the vital domestic institutions that rely on a competent, experienced president.

This is a stunner — Texas’ main conservative newspaper throwing its support behind Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump’s egomania is so extreme he won’t even blink at this, but his campaign staff has to be getting a sinking feeling.

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194 comments
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freetoken  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:12:25am

Maybe they just want to be on the winning side?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:13:07am

Somehow I don’t think the Donald Trump rookie card will be that valuable…

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Sir John Barron  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:13:37am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Oooh let me get that Little Marco one.

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nines09  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:16:11am

RINO attacks start in 10….9…….8……

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Kragar  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:16:44am
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Lidane  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:17:42am

The RWNJ head explosions about this endorsement have been a hilarious soundtrack to my work day.

“Newspapers shouldn’t endorse people! They should stick to facts!”
“Who cares about some dumb liberal news rag?!”
“How dare the Dallas Morning News put country over party!”

The notion that the Dallas Morning News is part of the librul media is especially hilarious:

Pierson says the only reason the paper supports Republicans is “because that’s the establishment in the state of Texas,” which, even if true, STILL MAKES HER CANDIDATE LOOK BAD. If the paper’s editorial board is actually conservative, then they are picking Hillary because Donald Trump is the shittiest thing the GOP has dingleberried out of its bottom in the last 75 YEARS. If the board is actually super-liberal, but goes along with Republicans for “Texas” reasons, that means it managed to endorse Dubya, Mitt Romney, Bob Dole, Richard Nixon, John McCain, and all the other GOP nominees in the last 75 YEARS, but can’t stomach it this time because Donald Trump is the shittiest thing the GOP has dingleberried out of its bottom in the last 75 YEARS.

I am amused. When the DMN slammed Trump yesterday, I expected them to pull a Ted Cruz and tell people to vote their conscience. Failing that, i figured they would’ve just did the same thing they did in 1964 and stay officially neutral.

Seeing them endorse Hillary has been my highlight of the day. This is hilarious.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:17:52am

re: #3 Sir John Barron

Oooh let me get that Little Marco one.

I wonder if there’s a Bernie card in every pack?

/

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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:18:35am

I just got an email about Dionne Warwick coming to town at the same time I got an email from the Warwick Hotel in Denver. Weird.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:18:52am

re: #6 Lidane

Trump Idiot Katrina Pierson So Mad Libtard Dallas Morning News Endorsed First Dem In 75 Years - by @EvanHurst - wonkette.com
— Wonkette

Why must we still endure Katrina Pierson?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:20:10am

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:20:27am

Baby Whiplash wants to ride the Trump Train even if it’s in the cattle car.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:21:51am

re: #9 Sir John Barron

Why must we still endure Katrina Pierson?

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Because his campaign’s checks haven’t bounced yet.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:21:55am

re: #6 Lidane

If the board is actually super-liberal, but goes along with Republicans for “Texas” reasons, that means it managed to endorse Dubya, Mitt Romney, Bob Dole, Richard Nixon, John McCain, and all the other GOP nominees in the last 75 YEARS, but can’t stomach it this time because Donald Trump is the shittiest thing the GOP has dingleberried out of its bottom in the last 75 YEARS.

And Barry Goldwater. They must have endorsed Goldwater over native son Lyndon Johnson in ‘64. Goldwater who managed to go on to a loss of stunning dimensions that year.

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Varek Raith  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:23:16am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

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Timothy Watson  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:23:34am

re: #13 Sir John Barron

And Barry Goldwater. They must have endorsed Goldwater over native son Lyndon Johnson in ‘64.

According to Wonkette, they refused to endorse anybody in 1964.

The Post also notes that the Dallas Morning News has in the past gone the route of the non-dorsement, as in 1964 when, faced with a choice between Lyndon Johnson and Barry Goldwater, it chose “Fuck ‘em both.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:24:09am

re: #9 Sir John Barron

Why must we still endure Katrina Pierson?

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Its Republicans who have to endure her; I enjoy her clownish antics.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:24:31am

re: #6 Lidane

Donald Trump is the shittiest thing the GOP has dingleberried out of its bottom in the last 75 YEARS.

This is pretty good.

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Lidane  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:25:27am

re: #13 Sir John Barron

And Barry Goldwater. They must have endorsed Goldwater over native son Lyndon Johnson in ‘64. Goldwater who managed to go on to a loss of stunning dimensions that year.

No, they were actually neutral in 1964. They didn’t like Goldwater but they were damned if they were going to give that commie LBJ an endorsement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:26:22am

re: #5 Kragar

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“The reason why they have supported Republicans is because that’s the establishment in the state of Texas,” she added. “And this is just an effort to continue to try to turn Texas blue. And it’s just not going to work.”

Katrina is just insane.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:26:45am

re: #17 Sir John Barron

This is pretty good.

This is good, too:

Let’s bring in Donald Trump’s idiot spokes-stooge Katrina Pierson, who is a verified numbnuts lame-brain moron, to tell us what the Trump campaign thinks about this:

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Frankie Five Angels  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:27:03am

re: #9 Sir John Barron

Why must we still endure Katrina Pierson?

/

I thought she was more entertaining when she was shoplifting JC Penny.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:27:42am
MARIA BARTIROMO: It’s the first time your hometown paper has recommended a Democrat since before World War II. […] What do you do about it?

KATRINA PIERSON: Well, nothing. We just acknowledge that the Dallas Morning News is a liberal paper

JFC

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makeitstop  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:28:55am

re: #13 Sir John Barron

And Barry Goldwater. They must have endorsed Goldwater over native son Lyndon Johnson in ‘64.

No endorsement for prez that year.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:29:55am

re: #23 makeitstop

No endorsement for prez that year.

Yeah I hadn’t read the Wonkette link at that point, which I should have. Because it’s really good stuff.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:30:33am

re: #15 Timothy Watson

So the delta between Clinton and Trump is worse than the one between Johnson and Goldwater.

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Varek Raith  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:31:15am

WTF, youtube?
I watch a few music videos and watch my recommendations list quickly get polluted by utter crap that has nothing to do with what I watched. Even after deleting youtube and google related cookies.
I give up.
e_e

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gocart mozart  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:34:58am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:35:56am

re: #26 Varek Raith

WTF, youtube?
I watch a few music videos and watch my recommendations list quickly get polluted by utter crap that has nothing to do with what I watched. Even after deleting youtube and google related cookies.
I give up.
e_e

You have to go to YouTube and manually delete your watch history there.

(Other lizards have posted about RWNJ and conspiracy theory material popping up in their recommended list after watching just one video on there.)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:39:12am

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash wants to ride the Trump Train even if it’s in the cattle car.

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He needs to just announce he’s supporting Trump already. It would be honest at least.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:40:20am

re: #22 Sir John Barron

JFC

Yeah Katrina, liberal papers go 88 years between endorsing Democratic presidential candidates. I mean, I get it, you need to spin this somehow but liberal really? Haw-haw.

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Kragar  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:41:21am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:41:40am

re: #25 Belafon

So the delta between Clinton and Trump is worse than the one between Johnson and Goldwater.

Goldwater wasn’t as good as the revisionism about him suggests in 1964 but Ol’ AuH20 had a consistency to his ideology that Trump lacks. I also think despite his naivete about civil rights law, he wasn’t a bigoted person.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:41:40am

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Sir John Barron  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:43:37am

re: #29 HappyWarrior

He needs to just announce he’s supporting Trump already. It would be honest at least.

Maybe they’d let him have his old perch at breitbart.com back.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:44:12am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:44:19am

I’m surprised that the DMN never endorsed FDR. I can see why post New Deal but I thought for sure in 1932 since Hoover was so reviled at that point.

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Thanos  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:44:47am

re: #26 Varek Raith

WTF, youtube?
I watch a few music videos and watch my recommendations list quickly get polluted by utter crap that has nothing to do with what I watched. Even after deleting youtube and google related cookies.
I give up.
e_e

It’s deeper than just cookies. support.google.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:44:55am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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Indeed. Megyn Kelly is a leftist to people like this.

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Thanos  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:46:42am

CSICon Las Vegas :

csiconference.org

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:48:23am

And, over one million of these will be lost within the first week of getting into Apple junkies hands…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:48:49am
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Stanley Sea  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:49:03am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:49:13am

I must confess to the infighting on the right. The Trumpists insist that outlets like this aren’t really conservative and they in turn claim that Trump isn’t a true conservative. If I liked popcorn, I’d probably OD!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:49:13am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:49:39am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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I guess Hannity’s head isn’t up Trump’s ass off enough for him.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:50:42am

Balls…….

Facebook Post

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:50:47am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:53:11am

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

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Thing is they’ll just invent some new bullshit for whoever replaces Clinton as Dem standard bearer. I can see a cottage industry of bullshit revolving around Tim Kaine the way we have with both Clintons and Obama.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:54:02am

re: #46 Dave In Austin

I can’t get on the book of faces. Can you give a short summary?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:56:06am

re: #40 FormerDirtDart

I think you need to put spoiler tags on that, in case someone hasn’t watched the event yet.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 11:57:00am

re: #49 Belafon

It’s a link to this article.

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Lidane  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:01:16pm

re: #46 Dave In Austin

They’re both so full of shit. The whole reason there’s a bunch of vacancies on the Texas bench is because those two pricks have been waiting around for a Republican president to get elected again.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:02:30pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:02:41pm

re: #50 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And for the record, as someone who has Bluetooth headphones and uses them extensively, five hours on a single charge is absolutely not going to work for most people.

(My current set runs 10 hours of active use on a single charge and can charge in ~an hour.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:03:16pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:05:43pm

re: #26 Varek Raith

That’s why I only watch youtube in private mode.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:06:58pm

re: #55 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Time for me go go get a 6S.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:08:21pm

Some people’s children…

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:09:10pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

Time for me go go get a 6S.

I think that’s where I will be. If there is no phone jack, my Bose QC2’s would be rendered dinosaurs. I like my headphones and paid a lot of money for them.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:10:42pm

re: #59 Dave In Austin

I think that’s where I will be. If there is no phone jack, my Bose QC2’s would be rendered dinosaurs. I like my headphones and paid a lot of money for them.

No, you can just get a Lightning adapter. They’re not very expensive.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:10:44pm

I like my headphone jack because it enables me to run my phone audio through an AUX cable so I can listen to it on my car speakers or the audio deck in my living room.

I am not yet fully convinced wireless tech can match the audio quality of a wired system.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:11:41pm

re: #59 Dave In Austin

I think that’s where I will be. If there is no phone jack, my Bose QC2’s would be rendered dinosaurs. I like my headphones and paid a lot of money for them.

I have a 4S for work; I’m in the same boat with headphones I use for telecons. I’ve been meaning to ask for an upgrade for my work phone and I guess I’ll have to ask for a 6S.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:11:50pm

I don’t get the point of getting rid of the headphone jack. In fact today at the gym, I had my phone because I wanted to listen to the baseball game on it. I also miss the iPod Classic.

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danarchy  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:12:21pm

re: #54 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And for the record, as someone who has Bluetooth headphones and uses them extensively, five hours on a single charge is absolutely not going to work for most people.

(My current set runs 10 hours of active use on a single charge and can charge in ~an hour.)

Yeah, I love my Jaybird X2’s, charge them on Sunday and they are mostly good all week and they can just kind of hang around my neck when I am not using them so no worry of losing them. I would lose those apple ones in a hot second.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:13:23pm

I am worried about the possibility of babies swallowing those wireless ones.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:13:53pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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This is what I keep telling D_F (and it’s like talking to a brick wall).
The label/term “conservative” has been hijacked by the tea party extremists.
The current purity test is so extreme that “conservative” has a completely different meaning to the loons.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:13:59pm

re: #59 Dave In Austin

I think that’s where I will be. If there is no phone jack, my Bose QC2’s would be rendered dinosaurs. I like my headphones and paid a lot of money for them.

A lightning-to phone jack dongle ships in the box. Just leave it on your headphone cable at all times—voilà: Lighning headphones.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:15:00pm

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

I am worried about the possibility of babies swallowing those wireless ones.

Babies, dogs, couch cushions, the washing machine, the Black Hole that also takes pen caps and odd socks…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:15:14pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

I don’t get the point of getting rid of the headphone jack. In fact today at the gym, I had my phone because I wanted to listen to the baseball game on it. I also miss the iPod Classic.

It’s ancient technology, and it prevented Apple from making the battery larger. So eliminating it results in much longer battery life, just to name one benefit.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:15:18pm

re: #67 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

A lightning-to phone jack dongle ships in the box. Just leave it on your headphone cable at all times—voilà: Lighning headphones.

…and hope you never have to choose between continuing to listen to whatever you’re listening to and charging your phone. Simple!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:15:43pm

re: #67 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

A lightning-to phone jack dongle ships in the box. Just leave it on your headphone cable at all times—voilà: Lighning headphones.

Can you charge while using the Lightning jack for headphones/speakers, though?

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:16:13pm

re: #6 Lidane

Pierson says the only reason the paper supports Republicans is “because that’s the establishment in the state of Texas,” which, even if true, STILL MAKES HER CANDIDATE LOOK BAD.

Hee hee. Problem with idiot Pierson’s thinking here is that the DMN was Republican for many years before the GOP was the “establishment” in Texas. Texas was part of the Democrats’ “solid south” until well into the 60s. Republicans were perhaps more competitive in Texas than in the true “deep south” though that isn’t saying much. It took Nixon 3 tries to carry Texas, losing in 1960 and ‘68, and finally winning in ‘72. The last Democrat to carry Texas was Jimmy Carter in 1976.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:16:47pm

If you want to charge at the same time, you’ll need a splitter adapter.

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lawhawk  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:16:51pm

re: #67 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, if you want to charge your phone and listen to headphones, well you’re out of luck then.

I get why trying to seal up the box makes sense since it eliminates a water intrusion point, and can move towards making the box smaller. Yet the solution on the headphone side is as inelegant as it is elegant to get rid of the jack. You now need extra dongle or connector, or go wifi.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:17:14pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

I don’t get the point of getting rid of the headphone jack. In fact today at the gym, I had my phone because I wanted to listen to the baseball game on it. I also miss the iPod Classic.

Saving room inside the case is the big reason, but it would also be impossible to keep the headphone jack and make the phone water-resistant. Samsung claimed that, but it turned out they were exaggerating, to say no more.

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danarchy  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:17:52pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

It’s ancient technology, and it prevented Apple from making the battery larger. So eliminating it results in much longer battery life, just to name one benefit.

Except if you are using bluetooth constantly it will drain the battery a lot faster. kind of a wash on that front.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:18:06pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

It’s ancient technology, and it prevented Apple from making the battery larger. So eliminating it results in much longer battery life, just to name one benefit.

I can’t think of anything in particular right now, but I know we as a species have had someone say “new is better” and it really wasn’t. And I’m not thinking of New Coke. And I like new at times.

Part of what makes this not work is that, without an adaptor, you get the headphones from Apple and you use them on Apple.

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Great White Snark  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:18:31pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:18:38pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

I don’t get the point of getting rid of the headphone jack. In fact today at the gym, I had my phone because I wanted to listen to the baseball game on it. I also miss the iPod Classic.

I’m wondering if the lack of jack has anything to do with its waterproof capabilities.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:19:04pm

There is lag on the Bluetooth headphones too.

Not generally noticeable, but I used to play a rhythm game on my phone and couldn’t use the Bluetooth set for that, the lag was too much.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:19:16pm

re: #74 lawhawk

Yeah, if you want to charge your phone and listen to headphones, well you’re out of luck then.

I get why trying to seal up the box makes sense since it eliminates a water intrusion point, and can move towards making the box smaller. Yet the solution on the headphone side is as inelegant as it is elegant to get rid of the jack. You now need extra dongle or connector, or go wifi.

They believe the future is wifi, and Apple has a guaranteed base of consumers so they can take a gamble android manufacturers can’t.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:19:24pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

It’s ancient technology, and it prevented Apple from making the battery larger. So eliminating it results in much longer battery life, just to name one benefit.

Ah I didn’t know that. Well that makes sense.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:19:29pm

re: #76 danarchy

Except if you are using bluetooth constantly it will drain the battery a lot faster. kind of a wash on that front.

This new low-power Bluetooth will hopefully alleviate that problem.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:19:52pm

re: #79 Dave In Austin

I’m wondering if the lack of jack has anything to do with its waterproof capabilities.

Samsung phones are waterproof and have the jack.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:19:59pm

re: #79 Dave In Austin

I’m wondering if the lack of jack has anything to do with its waterproof capabilities.

Hmmm it could.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:21:06pm

re: #81 Big Beautiful Door

They believe the future is wifi, and Apple has a guaranteed base of consumers so they can take a gamble android manufacturers can’t.

Apple: the only company that can call its existing users cowards for wanting to keep wired headphones and urge them to have the courage to embrace the new standard …and have people buy in.

There’s a reason I don’t buy Apple anymore. I know some people are all about it, but I prefer a little more choice and a little less being told exactly how I want things.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:21:46pm

re: #76 danarchy

Except if you are using bluetooth constantly it will drain the battery a lot faster. kind of a wash on that front.

It’s not actually Bluetooth - Apple says it’s a “Bluetooth-like” technology, and supposedly uses much less power.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:21:51pm

Another advantage Apple has is the recent Samsung brouhaha with the Note 7. Samsung could not have asked for a worse time for one of their flagships to go up in smoke.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:22:10pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

It’s not actually Bluetooth - Apple says it’s a “Bluetooth-like” technology, and supposedly uses much less power.

Appletooth?

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Jack Burton  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:22:16pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

No, you can just get a Lightning adapter. They’re not very expensive.

My current vehicle only has an AUX jack on the sound system. I don’t have bluetooth or apple play or a USB port or any of that stuff. I don’t have the money to get either a new deck, or a new car. That said if there is no adapter that works as a splitter allowing it to be plugged in to power and the aux jack at the same time, then they have officially lost me as a customer. Camel’s back, meet straw.

The reason for getting rid of the headphone jack supposedly is to make the phone thinner… WHY it doesn’t need to be thinner, they already break easy enough as it is. Samsung’s Galaxy series is starting to look appealing.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:22:26pm

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

I am worried about the possibility of babies swallowing those wireless ones.

re: #68 Blind Frog Belly White

Babies, dogs, couch cushions, the washing machine, the Black Hole that also takes pen caps and odd socks…

Look under the fridge….
My cat likes to steal plastic bottle caps, I once found around 50 under the fridge

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:22:45pm

I just find it funny: “We don’t have an audio jack. Use this adaptor instead.” They’ve made the phone thinner, but having an adaptor will probably make it much easier to break the port.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:22:45pm

re: #79 Dave In Austin

I’m wondering if the lack of jack has anything to do with its waterproof capabilities.

Definitely. Getting rid of the jack means there’s no hole in the case, and was key to making it water-resistant.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:23:00pm

re: #84 Belafon

Samsung phones are waterproof and have the jack.

Turns out Samsung was “wrong”, to be Politically Correct™, about how waterproof their phones were.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:23:54pm

re: #90 Jack Burton

My current vehicle only has an AUX jack on the sound system. I don’t have bluetooth or apple play or a USB port or any of that stuff. I don’t have the money to get either a new deck, or a new car. That said if there is no adapter that works as a splitter allowing it to be plugged in to power and the aux jack at the same time, then they have officially lost me as a customer. Camel’s back, meet straw.

The reason for getting rid of the headphone jack supposedly is to make the phone thinner… WHY it doesn’t need to be thinner, they already break easy enough as it is. Samsung’s Galaxy series is starting to look appealing.

No, it’s a lot more than just making it thinner. It let them increase the battery life by more than two hours, and also makes the phone water-resistant.

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Jenner7  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:24:16pm

What’s going on with Apple today?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:25:28pm

re: #90 Jack Burton

My car only has a tape deck.

I have a cassette tape I can plug in to the headphone jack on my phone and use just fine for listening to music.

I kind of like not having to carry around 47 bajillion adapters to use my stuff but again, to each their own.

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danarchy  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:25:49pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

It’s not actually Bluetooth - Apple says it’s a “Bluetooth-like” technology, and supposedly uses much less power.

Which is great, but if you want to use anything other than their headphones you are back to bluetooth(I assume it still supports older bluetooth devices, apple couldn’t be that stupid.)

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:25:59pm

re: #96 Jenner7

What’s going on with Apple today?

New phone, Much consternation…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:26:07pm
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Jack Burton  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:26:25pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

No, it’s a lot more than just making it thinner. It let them increase the battery life by more than two hours, and also makes the phone water-resistant.

Still has no bearing on my situation. It’s possible to make a headphone jack waterproof, and what little space that takes up is not alone what add 2 hours to the battery.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:26:54pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

No, it’s a lot more than just making it thinner. It let them increase the battery life by more than two hours, and also makes the phone water-resistant.

Apple-haters are just like Clinton-haters. They’ve got their narrative and they’ll never abandon it.

I don’t even have a smartphone, but if I could afford it, I’d buy the 7 Plus just for the camera. They didn’t even mention the 4K 60 fps video, did they?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:27:57pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

I’m good with that.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:28:16pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

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Cool, Apple gets another $9 when you lose/break the adaptor. As much as a cheap set of headphones.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:28:23pm

re: #90 Jack Burton

My current vehicle only has an AUX jack on the sound system. I don’t have bluetooth or apple play or a USB port or any of that stuff. I don’t have the money to get either a new deck, or a new car. That said if there is no adapter that works as a splitter allowing it to be plugged in to power and the aux jack at the same time, then they have officially lost me as a customer. Camel’s back, meet straw.

The reason for getting rid of the headphone jack supposedly is to make the phone thinner… WHY it doesn’t need to be thinner, they already break easy enough as it is. Samsung’s Galaxy series is starting to look appealing.

I assume you mean the non-exploding ones.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:28:34pm

re: #101 Jack Burton

Still has no bearing on my situation. It’s possible to make a headphone jack waterproof, and what little space that takes up is not alone what add 2 hours to the battery.

The only way to make a headphone jack waterproof is a rubber plug—just make sure you put it in before you drop your phone.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:28:50pm

re: #101 Jack Burton

Still has no bearing on my situation. It’s possible to make a headphone jack waterproof, and what little space that takes up is not alone what add 2 hours to the battery.

The 3.5mm jack took up a huge amount of space inside the case - it’s ancient technology. Eliminating it let Apple increase the battery size.

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Jack Burton  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:29:06pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Doesn’t split to a second lighting cable… therefore Apple is saying: “no charging and listening at the same time for you!”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:29:51pm

re: #102 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Apple-haters are just like Clinton-haters. They’ve got their narrative and they’ll never abandon it.

I don’t even have a smartphone, but if I could afford it, I’d buy the 7 Plus just for the camera. They didn’t even mention the 4K 60 fps video, did they?

Pretty clear reasoned discussion on this topic isn’t going to happen. I’m out.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:30:14pm

re: #96 Jenner7

What’s going on with Apple today?

They decided to be “innovated” today. And, as is their practice, they’re annoying the crap out of the Earth’s population…

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:30:34pm

re: #86 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Apple: the only company that can call its existing users cowards for wanting to keep wired headphones and urge them to have the courage to embrace the new standard …and have people buy in.

There’s a reason I don’t buy Apple anymore. I know some people are all about it, but I prefer a little more choice and a little less being told exactly how I want things.

Apple has never been for everybody. I’m cheap, so I always get the cheapest phone I can, but my wife and daughter only want iPhones.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:31:58pm

Every time Apple eliminates some ancient technology like this, people get upset. Then, a year later they’ve completely forgotten it ever existed.

Anyone remember SCSI ports?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:33:21pm

Well, I hope the wireless headphones they plan to release are better than the power beats 2 wireless earbuds. They’ve had to replace 2 pairs of mine for free due to the same defect.

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danarchy  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:33:27pm

re: #102 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Apple-haters are just like Clinton-haters. They’ve got their narrative and they’ll never abandon it.

I don’t even have a smartphone, but if I could afford it, I’d buy the 7 Plus just for the camera. They didn’t even mention the 4K 60 fps video, did they?

Yes, you can’t think Apple made a bad decision without being an apple hater(As I type from my Macbook, with my iPad not more than 4 feet away). I like most Apple products, I can’t stand fanbois.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:33:29pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Every time Apple eliminates some ancient technology like this, people get upset. Then, a year later they’ve completely forgotten it ever existed.

Anyone remember SCSI ports?

I’ve completely forgotten the second button on my mouse.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:33:51pm

re: #115 Belafon

I’ve completely forgotten the second button on my mouse.

Weird, mine still have two…

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Kragar  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:34:06pm
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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:34:29pm

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

I am worried about the possibility of babies swallowing those wireless ones.

And republicans.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:35:09pm

re: #115 Belafon

I’ve completely forgotten the second button on my mouse.

But does yours still have a ball?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:35:14pm

re: #114 danarchy

I’m no fanboi, but I don’t have any problem with this design decision to eliminate the 3.5mm jack. It makes complete sense to me.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:35:31pm

re: #117 Kragar

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Sounds like he wants to invade Syria, and he’s going to need all those marines so that he can maintain control of the oilfields he plans to seize.

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Great White Snark  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:35:35pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

It’s not actually Bluetooth - Apple says it’s a “Bluetooth-like” technology, and supposedly uses much less power.

Seems to me this is one application where wireless is a disadvantage in numerous ways. For example, how many bluetooth sets are to replace lost ones? Sometimes simpler tech is best.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:36:46pm

re: #122 Great White Snark

Seems to me this is one application where wireless is a disadvantage in numerous ways. For example, how many bluetooth sets are to replace lost ones? Sometimes simpler tech is best.

Nevertheless, this is exactly something Jobs would’ve done. Apple wouldn’t be Apple if it wasn’t blazing the trail.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:38:26pm

re: #122 Great White Snark

Seems to me this is one application where wireless is a disadvantage in numerous ways. For example, how many bluetooth sets are to replace lost ones? Sometimes simpler tech is best.

I went through two Bluetooth headsets in a month - I think my sweat shorts them out, and yes, I used a supposedly sports-tough version - so I’ve gone back to buds.

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Kragar  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:39:04pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:39:09pm

I have a heart rate monitor that claims to be water resistant as long as you don’t push any buttons while it’s wet (which is how to operate it). Not good for swimming (which is fine) but it’s raining…

No Fitbits, I’m old (but fit).

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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:39:38pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Every time Apple eliminates some ancient technology like this, people get upset. Then, a year later they’ve completely forgotten it ever existed.

Anyone remember SCSI ports?

Funny thing. My ancient 2015 Ford Escape won’t connect to Apple devices via Bluetooth. It says so right in the manual. You need to connect a cable between the phone and the AUX jack.

OOPS! I guess I’ll be buying a new car to go with my new iPhone 7 NOT.

Anyway I just returned my Samsung Galaxy Note 7 to Verizon today. I hope they get the battery problem fixed, because other than that it’s a great phone.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:39:48pm

As long as there is a lightning adapter to still use the mini-jack, I have no problem with its elimination. I’m sure someone very soon will develop a y-cable where you can use the lightning and mini-jack at the same time.

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Great White Snark  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:41:13pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

I’m no fanboi, but I don’t have any problem with this design decision to eliminate the 3.5mm jack. It makes complete sense to me.

Whats gained apart from a slightly simpler design? Waterproofing? Samsung has that covered already

Nevamind, I had missed your earlier comment.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:41:50pm

re: #127 Skip Intro

Again - you can still use your AUX input. The iPhone 7 comes with a Lightning adapter for 3.5mm plugs.

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Great White Snark  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:42:05pm

re: #127 Skip Intro

The Note was too big for my tastes, but I love my Edge 7.

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:42:59pm

Florida woman this time:
Police: Teen targeting ex-boyfriend sets wrong car on fire

A woman targeting her ex-boyfriend apparently forgot what kind of car he drives.

CBS affiliate WTSP reportsthat police in Clearwater, Florida arrested 19-year-old Carmen Chamblee after she set fire to a car. She told detectives that she thought the car belonged to her ex-boyfriend but that she apparently set the wrong vehicle on fire.

Chamblee, who was arrested south of Clearwater, was charged with second-degree arson. She taken to Pinellas County Jail, the station reported.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:43:10pm

re: #125 Kragar

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Raqqa. They will have to be on constant occupation duty in Trump’s Syrian oil colony.

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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:43:17pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Again - you can still use your AUX input. The iPhone 7 comes with a Lightning adapter for 3.5mm plugs.

That’s the kind of kludge that Jobs would have hated.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:43:58pm

re: #114 danarchy

Yes, you can’t think Apple made a bad decision without being an apple hater(As I type from my Macbook, with my iPad not more than 4 feet away). I like most Apple products, I can’t stand fanbois.

I disagree with a lot of what Apple does: Going download-only several decades too soon, and never supporting Blu-Ray, to name two. The Apple-hating press is a huge industry, though.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:43:58pm

I remember buying my first PC that didn’t have a 3.5 inch floppy drive. I thought I wouldn’t be able to function.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:44:49pm

re: #129 Great White Snark

Whats gained apart from a slightly simpler design? Waterproofing? Samsung has that covered already.

Larger battery - two more hours of use.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:44:49pm

For adaptors, I like the fact that USB is used for just about everything on my phone. I wonder why the audio jack hasn’t been eliminated in favor of the USB port, but I’m not very hardware inclined, so it hasn’t exactly reached a high enough level for me to go hunt for an answer.

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danarchy  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:44:53pm

re: #129 Great White Snark

Whats gained apart from a slightly simpler design? Waterproofing? Samsung has that covered already.

they can save that little quarter inch square of space over there in the corner.

Image: inside-iphone-6.jpg

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:45:04pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Again - you can still use your AUX input. The iPhone 7 comes with a Lightning adapter for 3.5mm plugs.

Think of it this way, get several Lightning adaptors and think of them as cord extenders or jacks….

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:45:40pm

re: #140 Dave In Austin

Think of it this way, get several Lightning adaptors and think of them as cord extenders or jacks….

Apple will be thrilled to sell them to you, $90 for 10…

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:45:58pm

re: #134 Skip Intro

That’s the kind of kludge that Jobs would have hated.

Its temporary. The longterm plan is to go completely wireless, so the next iteration will be completely sealed and charged wirelessly.

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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:46:20pm

re: #141 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Apple will be thrilled to sell them to you, $90 for 10

FIFY.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:46:32pm

re: #128 Dr. Matt

As long as there is a lightning adapter to still use the mini-jack, I have no problem with its elimination. I’m sure someone very soon will develop a y-cable where you can use the lightning and mini-jack at the same time.

I’m pretty sure there are already splitter cables available. If not, there will be very soon.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:46:49pm

In summary, the iPhone 7 isn’t radically new. It probably should be an iPhone 6 SEx2-tack-hotel-lima-foxtrot-bravo

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:46:51pm

re: #129 Great White Snark

Whats gained apart from a slightly simpler design? Waterproofing? Samsung has that covered already.

They were lying.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:47:31pm

re: #141 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Apple will be thrilled to sell them to you, $90 for 10…

They are $9. and one comes in the box

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:48:21pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel

Florida woman this time:
Police: Teen targeting ex-boyfriend sets wrong car on fire

Last line:

She was seen fleeing on a bicycle after starting the fire.

Ex-boyfriend probably rides a bike too.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:48:39pm

And I would just leave the adaptor attached to the corded device.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:49:14pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure there are already splitter cables available. If not, there will be very soon.

Yup.

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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:50:16pm

Hey! Who’s going to buy a new Apple Watch 2? They’re water resistant to 50 (meters?), but the phone you need to connect them to isn’t.

In case you think I’m an Apple hater, I have 2 Apple laptops, 2 iPads, and I don’t even know how many iPods and I don’t understand why Apple stock hasn’t dropped $20 today.

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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:50:56pm

re: #150 Dr. Matt

Seriously?

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Bubblehead II  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:51:04pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Every time Apple eliminates some ancient technology like this, people get upset. Then, a year later they’ve completely forgotten it ever existed.

Anyone remember SCSI ports?

Why yes I do. Now how about IEEE 488?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:51:09pm

Nice review and commentary about the iPhone 7 at: nytimes.com

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gocart mozart  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:51:29pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:52:07pm

re: #155 gocart mozart

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Obama never talks to the military. He’s always out golfing.

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darthstar  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:52:25pm

re: #154 Dr. Matt

Nice review and commentary about the iPhone 7 at: nytimes.com

I hope they dropped the telephone feature. That’s always sucked with iPhones.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:52:27pm

re: #147 Dave In Austin

They are $9. and one comes in the box

Yes, and if you want several more to leave on various cables so that you’ve got one on hand in a number of locations, that total cost is going to be several times $9. Like, for example, $90 for 10.

It does add up, which is the point I was trying to make.

It’s no skin off my back, because I have no intention of buying an iPhone and today’s announcement doesn’t change that. I think the way some people are defending this concept like everyone else is being silly for not immediately embracing it is silly. Folks have brought up some valid concerns. There are apparently some reasons Apple decided to go this way, some of which might even work well. It’s almost like it’s a nuanced thing.

But you cannot deny that Apple will gladly sell you a pile of adapters at $9 a pop in the meantime so you can continue to use your old stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:52:36pm

re: #58 FormerDirtDart

Two idiots at the Dragon Con festival in Atlanta thought a 9/11 costume would be a good idea

How about dressing up as a 747 and knocking their asses flat?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:53:12pm

re: #152 Skip Intro

Seriously?

Apparently —> macrumors.com

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:54:57pm

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How about dressing up as a 747 and knocking their asses flat?

More subtle, in an area completely devoid of subtlety: a box knife.

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Great White Snark  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:55:17pm

re: #146 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They were lying.

Not with the edge, and if they do it costs them not me. Mine has gotten plunked on purpose to take video. My old Sony Experia was waterproof. I suspect waterproof is about body seal, not jacks. Watches with waterproof buttons came out a very long time ago.

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lawhawk  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:55:22pm

re: #125 Kragar

Where/how this makes sense: decrease number of Army divisions, since you’re asking for rapid reaction force.

Other issues - meeting recruitment goals to expand the fighting force of extraordinary magnitude isn’t nearly as easy as calling up Dr. Klaw and saying you need a bunch of guys who can fight.

You need properly conditioned/trained forces, the equipment for those forces, and a place to put them.

That’s all at a time when the Defense Dept is actually trying to get Congress to go through another BRAC round because of surplus locations and need to control costs.

Marines v. US Army for ground forces is a tradeoff - size, scope, personnel needs, and heavy armor vs light/rapid armor deployment.

Clearly, Trump doesn’t get any of this, and will simply let the generals sort this out.

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darthstar  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:55:38pm

I love watching early adopters of Apple technology talk about how they plan to support their habit. Wireless earbuds, extra jacks, of course it will have a slightly different contour so a new case is necessary.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:56:12pm

re: #146 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I looked it up: cnet.com. Seems the S7s are water resistant, except for the one place that Apple removed: the audio jack. The S7s were the only ones that still functioned after getting wet.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:57:46pm

re: #157 darthstar

I hope they dropped the telephone feature. That’s always sucked with iPhones.

I would upding this more times if I could.

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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:58:00pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:59:33pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:59:46pm

re: #163 lawhawk

Clearly, Trump doesn’t get any of this, and will simply let the generals sort this out.

And if anything works he’ll take 100% of the credit and when it all goes to shit he’ll take 0% of the blame.

Just like he always does.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 12:59:58pm

re: #164 darthstar

I love watching early adopters of Apple technology talk about how they plan to support their habit. Wireless earbuds, extra jacks, of course it will have a slightly different contour so a new case is necessary.

Unforunately I have to be an early adopter this time because my 5S is on its last legs. It won’t be even with my car and the battery life is even more dismal than ever.

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Jack Burton  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:00:03pm

re: #157 darthstar

I hope they dropped the telephone feature. That’s always sucked with iPhones.

Talk about an outdated and ancient technology that needs to go…

Phone calls are like grandma saying “We all used to play jacks down at the soda fountain.”

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Kragar  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:03:26pm
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Dr. Matt  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:07:42pm

re: #172 Jack Burton

Talk about an outdated and ancient technology that needs to go…

Phone calls are like grandma saying “We all used to play jacks down at the soda fountain.”

Vinyl has made a comeback. It’s only a matter of time before licking stamps and making phone calls becomes vogue again. Hipsters need to get on it.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:07:55pm

re: #157 darthstar

I hope they dropped the telephone feature. That’s always sucked with iPhones.

Just need text and Twitter.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:09:49pm

Well, I’d love the airbuds, but there’s no way they (or Apple’s regular earbuds) would fit in my ear.

I finally found these BSR earbuds from DAK with their extra-small earpieces, and they sound great. They also had convincing-looking stress-relief where the wires go into the buds. Great, I thought—that’s what kills every pair of headphones I’ve ever owned. BUT…for some reason they put a hard plastic sleeve around the middle of the left cable, so it’s now broken the wires inside. At least it took a year instead of a week.

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danarchy  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:11:41pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Every time Apple eliminates some ancient technology like this, people get upset. Then, a year later they’ve completely forgotten it ever existed.

Anyone remember SCSI ports?

Sure, although scsi was never particularly prevalent on consumer hardware. I do miss my serial port every time I need to console into a cisco router and I can’t find my damn usb dongle.

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gocart mozart  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:12:57pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:14:15pm
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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:15:07pm

Back to the story at the top. What’s funny about the DMN not endorsing a Democrat in forever is that it really lays out that the Democrats were turning into the socially conscious party long before their direct involvement in the Civil Rights events in the late 50s and 60s. Dallas was pretty much set up as a business town, and the newspaper reflected that.

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:19:24pm

re: #180 Belafon

Back to the story at the top. What’s funny about the DMN not endorsing a Democrat in forever is that it really lays out that the Democrats were turning into the socially conscious party long before their direct involvement in the Civil Rights events in the late 50s and 60s. Dallas was pretty much set up as a business town, and the newspaper reflected that.

Trump is causing the rwnjs to expose their whole fraud.

The [Democratic] party’s over-reliance on government and regulation to remedy the country’s ills is at odds with our belief in private-sector ingenuity and innovation. Our values are more about individual liberty, free markets and a strong national defense.

Private-sector ingenuity doesn’t give a crap about out country’s ills. Nor does it give a crap about individual liberty, free markets and a strong national defense, unless you mean defense of profits and property.

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Jack Burton  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:24:55pm

re: #171 Dr. Matt

Unforunately I have to be an early adopted this time because my 5S is on its last legs. It won’t be even with my car and the battery life is even more dismal than ever.

I’ve known this was coming for a couple of years now. I guess I was just waiting to see it for my own eyes, and see how dismissive of criticisms Apple and others were before I made any judgement. I’ve obviously (from a handful of posts today) not liked what I’ve seen.

My 5S battery life is starting to dwindle. So I have to get a new phone soon. I’m sure if I switch to Android I’ll hate the damn thing with a passion of a thousand suns for awhile, then probably be OK with it. What I’ll probably end up doing is just getting a 6S Plus if they go cheap and wait to see what happens until that one dies. I might have different conditions to deal with in a year or 2 (regarding my car/car stereo situation) that might make this point moot, or might force my hand. I’m also just itching for an excuse to stop using iTunes and never look back as it is the biggest steaming pile of crap.

On a side note, I’m not ok with everything going wireless. Not because I’m an old man telling kids to get off my lawn, but because in practice this is… bad. In every office I’ve ever been in, and also in my own home, the 2.4 GHz band is so saturated with bullshit that devices interfere with each other constantly. I refuse to use wireless mouse/keyboards anymore because of that unless I have no choice. Now they want to eventually force all connections to that phone to be yet another wireless connection in an already over-saturated band. Something has to be done about 2.4 GHz. I know some things are moving to 5 GHz, but everything using that band has greatly reduced range.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:25:17pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

Trump is causing the rwnjs to expose their whole fraud.

Private-sector ingenuity doesn’t give a crap about out country’s ills. Nor does it give a crap about individual liberty, free markets and a strong national defense, unless you mean defense of profits and property.

Agree. I would like to see where they think their “strong national defense” comes from with an uneducated and unhealthy workforce.

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:27:07pm

re: #183 Belafon

Agree. I would like to see where they think their “strong national defense” comes from with an uneducated and unhealthy workforce.

Outsourcing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:32:09pm

re: #182 Jack Burton

I’ve known this was coming for a couple of years now. I guess I was just waiting to see it for my own eyes, and see how dismissive of criticisms Apple and others were before I made any judgement. I’ve obviously (from a handful of posts today) not liked what I’ve seen.

My 5S battery life is starting to dwindle. So I have to get a new phone soon. I’m sure if I switch to Android I’ll hate the damn thing with a passion of a thousand suns for awhile, then probably be OK with it. What I’ll probably end up doing is just getting a 6S Plus if they go cheap and wait to see what happens until that one dies. I might have different conditions to deal with in a year or 2 (regarding my car/car stereo situation) that might make this point moot, or might force my hand. I’m also just itching for an excuse to stop using iTunes and never look back as it is the biggest steaming pile of crap.

On a side note, I’m not ok with everything going wireless. Not because I’m an old man telling kids to get off my lawn, but because in practice this is… bad. In every office I’ve ever been in, and also in my own home, the 2.4 GHz band is so saturated with bullshit that devices interfere with each other constantly. I refuse to use wireless mouse/keyboards anymore because of that unless I have no choice. Now they want to eventually force all connections to that phone to be yet another wireless connection in an already over-saturated band. Something has to be done about 2.4 GHz. I know some things are moving to 5 GHz, but everything using that band has greatly reduced range.

The 6 and 6S (and SE) are still available in the cheaper tiers as usual, and they’ve even doubled the storage on them, like on the new 7.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:35:00pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

Trump is causing the rwnjs to expose their whole fraud.

Private-sector ingenuity doesn’t give a crap about out country’s ills. Nor does it give a crap about individual liberty, free markets and a strong national defense, unless you mean defense of profits and property.

Congratulations—you broke the code.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:47:35pm

re: #127 Skip Intro

On the bright side, we could use one of the recalled phones to take care of Al-Baghdidi.

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geosherman  Sep 7, 2016 • 1:59:33pm

re: #59 Dave In Austin

I use my Bose Q2c with lightning to USB cable and an external DAC. Love the sound!
of course Apple offers a Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter for 39 which offers two port - one for listening and one for powering…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2016 • 2:02:11pm

Off to make another futile gesture against the Alabama school-to-prison pipeline. BBL.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2016 • 2:36:48pm

y’all are so cute with arguing about this apple phone thing.

I have a GoPhone flip phone that only works when I’m about 5-10 miles away from home and internet access at home that is 40kbs on a good day, so my new Amazon Firestick and the Roku TV are useless here.

But please carry on about the new iPhone…this is fun watching people air technical grievances about headphones well before Festivus.

:D

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 7, 2016 • 2:38:17pm

re: #125 Kragar

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Okay, so here’s what I don’t get - Trump has said repeatedly he wants to not deploy so many troops overseas, that he wants an end to nation-building, that we shouldn’t be so interventionist.*

So, what are we going to do with all the Marines?

*That’s half the time. A minute or so later, he’s gonna make a big Safe Space in Syria for the refugees, and destroy ISIS.

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TedStriker  Sep 7, 2016 • 2:54:37pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

It’s not actually Bluetooth - Apple says it’s a “Bluetooth-like” technology, and supposedly uses much less power.

IOW, a proprietary tech they can charge a pretty premium for, because, at least for a few months or so, Apple will be the only place you can get those type of cans.

Thanks, Apple, but no thanks.

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MsJ  Sep 7, 2016 • 3:40:37pm

re: #182 Jack Burton

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nickzi  Sep 7, 2016 • 4:08:27pm

LOLCATZ ARE GO!


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