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Birth Control Works  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:38:32am

Didn’t MItt have an election issue with dogs as well?

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Birth Control Works  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:40:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:42:15am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:42:29am

@kurteichenwald and @Fahrenthold are having a “who can dig up the most dirt on Trump” contest and the American people are the winners.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:44:32am

Predict #nightmarespeculation to come up in the VP debate.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:45:04am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I thought the steel industry in the US died something like 40 years ago?

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:45:43am

re: #4 A wild WITHAK appeared!

@kurteichenwald and @Fahrenthold are having a “who can dig up the most dirt on Trump” contest and the American people are the winners.

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Now that’s the kind of competition I can enjoy.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:46:35am

bbl

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Dr. Matt  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:46:59am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:47:07am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

“…with the exception of one business that collapsed into multiple bankruptcies, Trump does not operate a public company; he has no fiduciary obligation to shareholders to obtain the highest returns he can. His decisions to turn away from American producers were not driven by legal obligations to investors, but simply resulted in higher profits for himself and his family.”

Something good to remember when the spin/pushback comes.

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wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:47:34am
With bonus F-bomb, so possibly NSFW.

The most welcome F-bomb ever. Could be less safe without it.

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:48:55am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:49:25am

re: #6 Birth Control Works

I thought the steel industry in the US died something like 40 years ago?

Yeah, I left my PA hometown and headed south because there was nothing but a skeleton of the steel industry left (or any other “backup” industrial base), That was in 1979. And it had been going downhill since at least 1970.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:49:30am

hahahahaaaaaa

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Tigger2  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:55:52am
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Kragar  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:57:08am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:57:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:57:56am

re: #15 Tigger2

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And Hillary is in Toledo right now:

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Ubiq  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:59:59am

Somebody in my Facebook Feed keeps liking to say that “Trump/Clinton are the two most unpopular candidates ever to run for president!” The classic way to measure favorability is to subtract favorability to unfavorability. Here’s how they rank.

Clinton: -11.6
Johnson: -12
Stein: -14.6
Trump: -19.8

Yes, Hillary Clinton is in fact the MOST popular candidate running for president right now, beating Gary Johnson by a nose!

Now critics might point out that this is because most of the public doesn’t know these two candidates. Gary Johnson has, for example, undecideds at 44.6%. And while one is tempted to say ‘all these people would love Johnson/Stein if the lamestream media would give him some air!’, I think it’s fair to say that that’s not the case. As a simple example, I ran a simple model where I pretended that all undecideds were forced to choose, and chose in the same proportions as the people who have already decided. This was not pretty for the third party candidates.

Clinton: -11.9
Trump: -20.5
Johnson: -21.9
Stein: -32.3

This may seem unfair, but frankly, it may be generous. Gary Johnson’s favorable/unfavorable ratings were pretty close to tied as recently as September 1st. In the last month, pretty much everyone who has decided to take a look at him has rejected him. If THAT trajectory continued for every undecided voter that took a look at Johnson, he’d end up with the popularity of the bubonic plague.
elections.huffingtonpost.com
Jill Stein’s rating has similarly been flat for favorables and growing for unfavorables, although not as extremely as Gary Johnson.
elections.huffingtonpost.com
Here’s Clinton and Trump for Completions sake
elections.huffingtonpost.com
elections.huffingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:02:10am
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makeitstop  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:03:16am

Olbermann is really getting back into my good graces with this series.

His Trump voice is one of those things that just makes me LOL.

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Alephnaught  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:03:23am

So, over the weekend, I found out that this is a thing:.

More here.

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Kragar  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:04:22am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:04:50am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:04:57am

Hillary coughs in Toledo and the trump twitterverse cries out as one: SHE COUGHED!!!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:05:01am
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dangerman  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:05:12am

dailybeast.com

Art of the Steal: This is How Trump Lost $916M and Avoided Tax

a pretty good, though not certain, explanation of how he probably did it

and who he hurt in the process

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Jenner7  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:05:25am
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:06:24am

re: #19 Ubiq

Somebody in my Facebook Feed keeps liking to say that “Trump/Clinton are the two most unpopular candidates ever to run for president!” The classic way to measure favorability is to subtract favorability to unfavorability. Here’s how they rank.

Yes, Hillary Clinton is in fact the MOST popular candidate running for president right now, beating Gary Johnson by a nose!

Now critics might point out that this is because most of the public doesn’t know these two candidates. Gary Johnson has, for example, undecideds at 44.6%. And while one is tempted to say ‘all these people would love Johnson/Stein if the lamestream media would give him some air!’, I think it’s fair to say that that’s not the case. As a simple example, I ran a simple model where I pretended that all undecideds were forced to choose, and chose in the same proportions as the people who have already decided. This was not pretty for the third party candidates.

This may seem unfair, but frankly, it may be generous. Gary Johnson’s favorable/unfavorable ratings were pretty close to tied as recently as September 1st. In the last month, pretty much everyone who has decided to take a look at him has rejected him. If THAT trajectory continued for every undecided voter that took a look at Johnson, he’d end up with the popularity of the bubonic plague.
elections.huffingtonpost.com
Jill Stein’s rating has similarly been flat for favorables and growing for unfavorables, although not as extremely as Gary Johnson.
elections.huffingtonpost.com
Here’s Clinton and Trump for Completions sake
elections.huffingtonpost.com
elections.huffingtonpost.com

I do think splitting the undecideds is generous.

If more people knew about Johnson’s positions and ideas beyond marijuana legalization and marriage equality, and if more people knew about Stein’s idiotic statements about vaccination and the potential health hazards of wireless communication, they’d be viewed a lot less favorably.

Most people are not paying as much attention to political minutiae as the average Lizard. Hell, the first debate is the first exposure a lot of people had to Trump as a candidate rather than a celebrity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:06:51am
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Apocalypse  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:07:20am

re: #22 Alephnaught

Given they’ve got deplorable in their handle, without knowing what the “code” was, I’d just assume its racist BS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:08:26am

BWAHAHAHAHAAAA

these people are pathetic

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Great White Snark  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:09:48am

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hillary coughs in Toledo and the trump twitterverse cries out as one: SHE COUGHED!!!

So THAT is why I had to clean my cache…

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dangerman  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:11:19am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

BWAHAHAHAHAAAA

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these people are pathetic

probably a tic-tac

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danarchy  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:11:40am

re: #19 Ubiq

Somebody in my Facebook Feed keeps liking to say that “Trump/Clinton are the two most unpopular candidates ever to run for president!” The classic way to measure favorability is to subtract favorability to unfavorability. Here’s how they rank.

It would probably be fairer to say that Trump/Clinton are the two most unpopular major party candidates to run, at least in the last 100 or so years. Goldwater may come close.

I do think that with everything that rides on this election turnout will probably be pretty depressed as compared to the last couple of elections.

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Great White Snark  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:12:50am

Got that old school cold war chill right up my spine.

PUTIN PRAISES FARMERS FOR RUSSIA’S STRONG GRAIN HARVEST

MOSCOW (AP) — President Vladimir Putin praised farmers Tuesday for making Russia’s grain harvest this year the highest in post-Soviet times.

Agriculture Minister Alexander Tkachev reported to Putin on Tuesday that this year’s output is expected to reach 110-115 million metric tons, the largest yield in a quarter century.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:14:05am

re: #36 Great White Snark

Got that old school cold war chill right up my spine.

It’s Russia, what else are they going to brag about?

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:14:32am

re: #36 Great White Snark

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:15:01am

re: #36 Great White Snark

Got that old school cold war chill right up my spine.

So, The Glorious Five Year Plan is working?

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dangerman  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:15:19am

olbermann:

what the hell’s wrong with this guy?

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Jay C  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:15:20am

re: #36 Great White Snark

Got that old school cold war chill right up my spine.

PUTIN PRAISES FARMERS FOR RUSSIA’S STRONG GRAIN HARVEST

MOSCOW (AP) — President Vladimir Putin praised farmers Tuesday for making Russia’s grain harvest this year the highest in post-Soviet times.

Agriculture Minister Alexander Tkachev reported to Putin on Tuesday that this year’s output is expected to reach 110-115 million metric tons, the largest yield in a quarter century.

So IOW, Russia is probably on the verge of a famine.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:16:16am

re: #28 Jenner7

Trump’s campaign is bragging that not paying taxes makes him a “genius.”
What kind of genius loses $1 billion in a single year?
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 3, 2016

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:17:22am

I’m not a Kim Kardashian fan, but good freaking grief:

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:20:29am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m not a Kim Kardashian fan, but good freaking grief:

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Because no one is ever held at gunpoint here in the US.

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Kragar  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:20:33am
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dangerman  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:20:37am

re: #40 dangerman

olbermann:

what the hell’s wrong with this guy?

better olbermann:

“hey, don. fuck you”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:20:43am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m not a Kim Kardashian fan, but good freaking grief:

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Are they ever not pathetic gun humping shitbags?

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:21:47am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Are they ever not pathetic gun humping shitbags?

That’s in the NRA tweet-wrangler job description.

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Apocalypse  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:22:02am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to the NRA, impersonating a police officer is fine.

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dangerman  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:23:34am

re: #42 Dr. Matt

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Charles Johnson  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:26:03am
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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:27:22am

re: #37 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s Russia, what else are they going to brag about?

Tractor output in Glorious October Revolution Factory.

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:29:19am

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dangerman  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:29:58am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m not a Kim Kardashian fan, but good freaking grief:

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and note so far not a word from them about the earlier story of the guy shooting the ar-15 in the air because (imagined) clowns

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Sir John Barron  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:30:05am

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait, criminals held @KimKardashian at gunpoint in Paris? How is that possible? Does anyone know if they passed a background check first?
— NRA

It’s been a few days since I’d considered what utter douchecanoes the NRA is. Glad they took time to remind me today.

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Tigger2  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:31:14am
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dangerman  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:32:44am

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:33:19am

France has the same problem with guns coming from the rest of Europe that Chicago has with Indiana.

washingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:33:38am

re: #48 jaunte

That’s in the NRA tweet-wrangler job description.

Good point.

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:35:02am

“…France seems to be awash with guns. The guns used in high-profile terror attacks are really just the tip of the iceberg. In 2012, French authorities estimated that there were around 30,000 guns illegally in the country, many likely used by gangs for criminal activities. Of those guns, around 4,000 were likely to be “war weapons,” Le Figaro reported, referring to items such as the Kalashnikov AK-variant rifles and Uzis. Statistics from the National Observatory for Delinquency, a government body created in 2003, suggest that the number of guns in France has grown by double digits every year.”
………….

“…It’s believed that most of these weapons come from the Balkan states, leftovers from the wars that took place after the collapse of Yugoslavia — some estimate there might be as many as 6 million weapons remaining in that region. Once they make it into the Schengen area, there’s little to stop them from making it all the way to Paris, where AK-47s can sell for 1,000 euros ($1,072), according to Bloomberg.”

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:37:26am

France has around 1,800 firearms deaths every year, even with weapons from the Balkan war available.
More than 33,000 firearm deaths yearly in the United States. Thanks, NRA!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:37:30am

re: #60 jaunte

The NRA stupidly wants to present an image of country and states existing in a vaccum where it’s nearly impossible to transport guns from one place to another. As you already pointed out, a lot of guns that get used in Chicago’s gun homicides are in fact from Pence’s Indiana.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:39:18am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:41:16am

Wonkette has a live one. They’ve gotten a lovely missive from Rob Morrow, ousted head of the Travis County GOP and author of The Clintons’ War on Women regarding Bill Clinton’s abandoned son Danney Williams. Hilarity ensues.

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:41:37am

Thinking about this statement from Pence over not clearing Keith Cooper’s record for a crime he did not commit:

“Although the judicial system may not be perfect, given the extraordinary nature of Mr. Cooper’s request, we need to be certain the judicial process is complete and has been given every opportunity to address any error that may have occurred.”

It reminded me of the Futurama episode where the public official refuses to release Fry because he doesn’t want to appear to be soft on the innocent. (I’d go find the video but I can’t from work.)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:42:46am

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Dr. Matt  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:43:56am

Best photobomb(s) ever

Instagram

Lylah was hit with the classic Ott, Larkin penalty box photobomb. | #lgrw (📸 @shan0mac)

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:44:28am

Deer hunter update:
I mentioned yesterday that while I was out in the country I had to haul a deer carcass out of the lake. One of the neighborhood crack shots had put a bullet into the doe’s stomach.
I left it down in the low part of the property for scavengers, and an hour later almost a hundred vultures arrived. Coyotes came later in the evening. Today the body is completely gone, bones, hide and all.

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Franklin  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:44:41am

Holy shit this Wells Fargo segment from Last Week Tonight is awesome:

John Oliver - Wells Fargo’s Ethics

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Kragar  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:45:56am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:48:41am

re: #64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Contradiction to the elevenity.

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Posted as private for obvious reasons.

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ObserverArt  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:50:21am

re: #6 Birth Control Works

I thought the steel industry in the US died something like 40 years ago?

Not all!

The industry did change though.

Here is a Columbus Ohio Steel Processing success story. Worthington Industries.

So successful, the McConnell family are the owners of the Columbus Blue Jackets NHL Hockey team and have been a big part of the Columbus scene for many years.

And they got pretty big with plants all over America, Europe and Asia. They make all kinds of steel products. Many are specialty but they do make rolled steel products too.

Check them out: Worthington Industries

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dharmamark  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:50:59am

Apparently I’m now a “globalist” or at least a sympathizer… I think I prefer “globalist curious”…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:51:23am

re: #1 Birth Control Works

Didn’t MItt have an election issue with dogs as well?

Who was that weird cabinet minister under Bush whose fundamentalist Christian cult had a prohibition against dogs?

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:51:34am

re: #70 Kragar

Yeah, let’s talk about Whitewater:

#457 makeitstop

After Michael Reagan coming out for Hillary, another conservative named Micheal endorses her. This one, I never wold have expected - Michael Chertoff.

The man who served as the lead Republican prosecutor for the congressional Whitewater investigation now has endorsed Hillary Clinton for president.

Shit just keeps getting crazier and crazier.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:54:44am

re: #36 Great White Snark

Agriculture Minister Alexander Tkachev reported to Putin on Tuesday that this year’s output is expected to reach 110-115 million metric tons, the largest yield in a quarter century.

It took them a half a century to get back up to pre-Soviet revolution levels of harvest, and decades to recover from the post-Soviet revolution…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 3, 2016 • 11:57:06am

re: #68 jaunte

Sometimes it’s not pretty, but nature can be extremely efficient.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 3, 2016 • 3:50:40pm

re: #72 ObserverArt

Not all!

The industry did change though.

Here is a Columbus Ohio Steel Processing success story. Worthington Industries.

So successful, the McConnell family are the owners of the Columbus Blue Jackets NHL Hockey team and have been a big part of the Columbus scene for many years.

And they got pretty big with plants all over America, Europe and Asia. They make all kinds of steel products. Many are specialty but they do make rolled steel products too.

Check them out: Worthington Industries

Northwest Indiana was decimated.

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Birth Control Works  Oct 3, 2016 • 10:23:14pm


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