Behind the Trump Campaign’s Attempt to Intimidate Hillary Clinton

The Rage Furby shoulders his way into the Trump campaign’s dirty tricks project
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The Washington Post reports today that the Trump campaign, in collusion with Breitbart News chief Stephen Bannon and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, tried to seat several women who’ve accused Hillary Clinton’s husband of sexual abuse in the Trump family’s box at last night’s debate.

This latest ugly — and totally unethical — attempt to intimidate Clinton was stopped at the last minute by debate officials.

The campaign’s plan, which was closely held and unknown to several of Trump’s top aides, was thwarted just minutes before it could be executed when officials with the Commission on Presidential Debates intervened. The commission officials warned that, if the Trump campaign tried to seat the accusers in the elevated family box, security officers would remove the women, according to the people involved, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the discussions were confidential.

The gambit to give Bill Clinton’s accusers prime seats was devised by Trump campaign chief executive Stephen K. Bannon and Jared Kushner, the candidate’s son-in-law, and approved personally by Trump.

It isn’t difficult to see why Trump did this; he’s desperate to take the attention away from his admission that he routinely sexually assaults women.

Trump is really dragging Republican politics into the sewer where he lives, and this time he has help — from infamous white supremacist troll Chuck C. Johnson, who (with his racist crony Pax Dickinson) paid for Kathy Shelton to travel to the debate.

A company called WeSearchr said on Twitter that it paid for Shelton’s trip to the debate in St. Louis. That firm was co-founded by conservative media figure Charles C. Johnson, an outspoken Trump supporter.

That’s an interesting way to describe an outright white supremacist, Associated Press: “conservative media figure.” But then, in the Trump era Chuck C. Johnson’s brand of racist smear-mongering is indeed what conservative media does.

Also involved in this disgusting stunt: Trump ally Roger Stone, who actually paid Kathy Shelton, and also gave money to another Bill Clinton accuser, Kathleen Willey.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A sexual-assault victim who is critical of Hillary Clinton and who appeared alongside Donald Trump before Sunday night’s debate was paid $2,500 by a political action committee founded by Trump ally Roger Stone.

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Earlier this year, Stone sought to raise money to pay off the mortgage of Kathleen Willey, who accused Bill Clinton of making unwanted sexual advances toward her during her time as a volunteer in his White House in the 1990s. Stone claimed in an online video interview that Trump had personally contributed to the fund.

By the way, just to show what kind of person is now helping the Trump campaign stage these creepy misogynistic stunts, here are some of the posts Chuck C. Johnson has made in the past few days on his Facebook page:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:44:58am

So fucking juvenile. I don’t think he could disrespect women more if he tried.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:45:38am
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Lidane  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:46:47am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:47:04am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Delete your account Mr Trump.

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darthstar  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:47:50am

That was supposed to intimidate her? He needs help.

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Jenner7  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:48:56am

It’s the Jerry Springer Show campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:52:31am

As someone with a legal background, the Shelton one really pisses me off. I understand the woman was raped and I feel awful for her that she was but she doesn’t seem to understand that someone had to defend her attacker and that Clinton was extremely reluctant to do so but she had to. And honestly if these women really see Trump as a champion of women then I have to concede they’re so blinded by their hatred of the Clintons that they have no perception of reality. Bannon, CCJ, Trump, Stone, and all these clowns don’t care about women. Their past and present prove that.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:52:58am

re: #5 darthstar

Normally I would give my kid sister’s phone number to the uncouth one so he can really learn how to intimidate someone. On second thought the uncouth one is a waste of time effort and energy in anyone’s book.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:54:05am

re: #6 Jenner7

Jerry never took himself seriously, and was basically harmless.

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Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:55:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:55:02am

re: #6 Jenner7

It’s the Jerry Springer Show campaign.

Hey now, there’s no need to insult Jerry Springer like that.

Heh.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:56:06am

re: #9 Kragar

Jerry never took himself seriously, and was basically harmless.

Jerry’s had a good line. Hillary belongs in the WH and Trump belongs on my show. And frankly Jerry as the former mayor of Cincy is more qualified to be President than Trump is. Plus he has a real understand of what refugees go through being the child of Jewish refugees fleeing hte Nazis.

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Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2016 • 10:58:06am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:01:05am

Nate has Hillary at 83.6% today. That’s up.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:01:59am

Trump on stage last night was basically what it looks like when an abusive man can’t lay hands on the source of his anger/frustration/sense of being thwarted. All that pacing and looming is about his feeling that the other party just shouldn’t be allowed to talk or have an opinion.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:02:10am

re: #13 Skip Intro

You could take practically anything Trump states and use that in the tweet’s format:

Trump: I declare X
Clinton: Do you want someone who says X in WH?
Trump: I never said X.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:03:25am

re: #16 lawhawk

You are right. It will work for anything he says.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:03:47am

re: #16 lawhawk

You could take practically anything Trump states and use that in the tweet’s format:

Trump: I declare X
Clinton: Do you want someone who says X in WH?
Trump: I never said X.

Yep. Like when she called him out in debate one for saying climate change was made up by the Chinese.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:04:54am
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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:04:59am

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Nate has Hillary at 83.6% today. That’s up.

She’s just shy of 80% in the Polls-plus forecast, on the cusp of retaking IA in that forecast, and slowly rebuilding her post-convention lead. This is an election heading in the wrong way for Trump on every front and last night did nothing to stop that.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:06:34am

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Nate has Hillary at 83.6% today. That’s up.

Polls-Plus is now at an all-time high.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:06:53am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:06:56am

re: #20 Targetpractice

She’s just shy of 80% in the Polls-plus forecast, on the cusp of retaking IA in that forecast, and slowly rebuilding her post-convention lead. This is an election heading in the wrong way for Trump on every front and last night did nothing to stop that.

Yep. Could get very ugly for Trump but also the downticket Republicans. They’re going to try to save them but I don’t think it will be enough to save the Senate. I think unfortunately the House is a bridge too far but who knows.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:07:14am

re: #20 Targetpractice

She’s just shy of 80% in the Polls-plus forecast, on the cusp of retaking IA in that forecast, and slowly rebuilding her post-convention lead. This is an election heading in the wrong way for Trump on every front and last night did nothing to stop that.

…and it did so in a way that maximizes the damage to his party. If GOP candidates disown Trump, the base will turn their backs on them, if they continue to stand by Trump, no matter how guardedly and reservedly, the rest of the electorate will abandon them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:07:26am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Drool.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:07:54am

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…and it did so in a way that maximizes the damage to his party. If GOP candidates disown Trump, the base will turn their backs on them, if they continue to stand by Trump, no matter how guardedly and reservedly, the rest of the electorate will abandon them.

Yep. They’re trapped. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of assholes.

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Nyet  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:09:17am

This can also be added to the deplorable screenshots.

Facebook Post

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:09:27am

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…and it did so in a way that maximizes the damage to his party. If GOP candidates disown Trump, the base will turn their backs on them, if they continue to stand by Trump, no matter how guardedly and reservedly, the rest of the electorate will abandon them.

Proverbial rock and a hard place. They spent all year appealing to their base because they felt they would be enough to win, now they’re realizing that’s not the case, but there’s no way to broaden their appeal without losing the base.

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Nyet  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:09:46am

re: #27 Nyet

*update*

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Nyet  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:10:09am

Seems like I haven’t missed anything by not watching the “debate”.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:10:19am

If you thought Ben Garrison was a bad cartoonist, this should disabuse you of that:

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:10:42am

Meanwhile Tribblehead is holding a campaign rally in my home town high school today while school is still in session…

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:10:57am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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What that poll tells me is the “independents” are fleeing from the sinking ship. Johnson’s poll numbers are on the rise again, which means Republicans are fleeing the party for what they view as the safest fallback. That’s going to cost them down-ticket.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:11:10am

re: #32 Joe Bacon

Meanwhile Tribblehead is holding a campaign rally in my home town high school today while school is still in session…

Huh, they don’t give the kids Columbus Day off there?

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:12:12am

re: #34 HappyWarrior

Huh, they don’t give the kids Columbus Day off there?

They don’t recognize the Federal Columbus Day Holiday

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:12:18am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:12:31am

re: #32 Joe Bacon

OMG. They did not close the school? That is a security risk for the students. They might catch what that Trump person has. /half

It is a mess with a school in session.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:12:35am

re: #33 Targetpractice

What that poll tells me is the “independents” are fleeing from the sinking ship. Johnson’s poll numbers are on the rise again, which means Republicans are fleeing the party for what they view as the safest fallback. That’s going to cost them down-ticket.

I’d love to see Johnson cause Clinton to win a state like Arizona she might not win otherwise. She doesn’t need AZ to win but I think if Clinton wins Arizona, it’s good bye to Sheriff Joe. Unfortunately, I think McCain is going to win re-election. It sucks because McCain really is one of the big parts of the GOP problem.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:13:07am

re: #35 Joe Bacon

They don’t recognize the Federal Columbus Day Holiday

Ohhhhhhh okay. Man then what a mess for the kids since the Secret Service is probably there.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:13:17am

re: #37 PhillyPretzel

OMG. They did not close the school? That is a security risk for the students. They might catch what that Trump person has. /half

It is a mess with a school in session.

I’d pull my kid out and raise hell if they tried to issue an unexcused absence.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:13:30am

re: #31 Sherlock Hound

If you thought Ben Garrison was a bad cartoonist, this should disabuse you of that:

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Beyond disgusting.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:14:21am

I think Indigenous People’s Day is a better thing to celebrate anyhow. I got my one brother a book about all the tribes in the continent for his birthday last summer. He’s really into indigenous people and their rights throughout the globe.

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:14:53am

That sound you hear is the GOP shitting a collective brick. Hillary’s edging back in to double-digit lead territory. Which means they’ve lost the Senate and could very well lose the House if she continues to gain in the polls. Tonight isn’t going to stop that, it’s not even going to really stem the bleeding. It’s the gut-shot character in a film who spends the last act slowly dying. There will be moments of “strength,” but the end is not in doubt.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:15:45am
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Belafon  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:16:20am

re: #42 HappyWarrior

I think Indigenous People’s Day is a better thing to celebrate anyhow. I got my one brother a book about all the tribes in the continent for his birthday last summer. He’s really into indigenous people and their rights throughout the globe.

We should call it Already Been Discovered Day.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:16:30am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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Trump not only denied the Russians were involved but said he didn’t even know it was hacking period but we’re talking about a guy who insists he knows a lot about “cyber.”

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:16:31am

re: #37 PhillyPretzel

OMG. They did not close the school? That is a security risk for the students. They might catch what that Trump person has. /half

It is a mess with a school in session.

From what my friends tell me back home the Police Chief asked parents to keep their children home today but the Trumpettes are going after him!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:17:43am

re: #45 Belafon

We should call it Already Been Discovered Day.

Leif Erickson Day. But really I prefer Indigneous Peoples. The tribes that lived in this country are so fascinating and we live in their legacy everyday whether it’s eating the food they farmed or traveling to places with their names.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:17:48am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:17:48am

re: #28 Targetpractice

Proverbial rock and a hard place. They spent all year appealing to their base because they felt they would be enough to win, now they’re realizing that’s not the case, but there’s no way to broaden their appeal without losing the base.

Everyone expected Trump to flame out, so other GOP candidates were hesitant to attack him because they wanted to pick up his supporters. By the time they tried attacking him, it was too late. Because at least in the primaries, Trump was flame-proof. Or rather flame-retardant, but I think his suit has burned through.

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Teukka  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:18:09am

re: #31 Sherlock Hound

If you thought Ben Garrison was a bad cartoonist, this should disabuse you of that:

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:18:15am

re: #47 Joe Bacon

The Trumpettes are the problem. Keeping the kids at home is a good solution.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:18:42am

re: #43 Targetpractice

The GOP final act is playing out as in Reservoir Dogs. Everyone blaming the other, and ultimately everyone shoots and kills the others. Only Mr. Pink escapes. Who gets to be Mr. Pink in this scenario.

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:20:16am

re: #53 lawhawk

The GOP final act is playing out as in Reservoir Dogs. Everyone blaming the other, and ultimately everyone shoots and kills the others. Only Mr. Pink escapes. Who gets to be Mr. Pink in this scenario.

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My guess? Bannon. Out of all the actors in this play, he’s the one who has the least to lose by diving down into the mud.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:21:56am

re: #53 lawhawk

The GOP final act is playing out as in Reservoir Dogs. Everyone blaming the other, and ultimately everyone shoots and kills the others. Only Mr. Pink escapes. Who gets to be Mr. Pink in this scenario.

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The GOP is facing its very own Kobayashi Maru scenario. Except there’s no James T. Kirk to reprogram it.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:23:15am

Is the tape enough to end Trump’s relationship with NBC?

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:23:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:23:46am

re: #56 Belafon

Is the tape enough to end Trump’s relationship with NBC?

Cannot imagine how he can show his face there…

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:24:00am

re: #56 Belafon

Is the tape enough to end Trump’s relationship with NBC?

No.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:24:02am

re: #56 Belafon

Is the tape enough to end Trump’s relationship with NBC?

I would have guessed various events during Trump’s campaign had already effectively done that, but who knows.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:24:25am

How to interpret this…
1) the GOP is fucked.

That is all.

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gwangung  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:24:53am

re: #55 Dr Lizardo

The GOP is facing its very own Kobayashi Maru scenario. Except there’s no James T. Kirk to reprogram it.

Just Starfleet’s first Pakled ensign….

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:25:18am

re: #57 Kragar

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You find the old priest, I’ll find the young one.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:26:06am

re: #57 Kragar

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Yeah Alex, Clinton’s people would talk to you. Actually, I can see that because you’d believe it if they told you that Hillary is the reincarnation of Hitler.

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BigPapa  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:27:01am

re: #61 lawhawk

That is so damn hilarious. They should be doing the exact opposite if they wanted to salvage anything from this carnage.

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:27:12am

re: #61 lawhawk

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How to interpret this…
1) the GOP is fucked.

That is all.

That’s the flip side to the polls, that even if Trump stays above 40%, it does not guarantee that will translate to support for the rest of the ticket. I think we’re going to find that even in states where Trump wins, Republicans who refused to stay on the sinking ship still went down with him.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:27:34am
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Belafon  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:27:34am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Cannot imagine how he can show his face there…

He’ll show up because he has no self-awareness. Who will meet him at the door will be the interesting part.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:27:43am

re: #65 BigPapa

That is so damn hilarious. They should be doing the exact opposite if they wanted to salvage anything from this carnage.

Well we’re talking about Trump cultists. People who actually believe he cares about regular people. They hate the GOP establishment who are running away from Trump but they love love Trump, their white supremacist in shining armor.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:28:40am

re: #66 Targetpractice

That’s the flip side to the polls, that even if Trump stays above 40%, it does not guarantee that will translate to support for the rest of the ticket. I think we’re going to find that even in states where Trump wins, Republicans who refused to stay on the sinking ship still went down with him.

Hoping Barbara Comstock is one of those.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:28:48am

re: #56 Belafon

Is the tape enough to end Trump’s relationship with NBC?

Well, NBCU’s relationship is with Mark Burnett, i.e., MGM Television. Certainly if NBCU says they never want Drumpfskind on again they can, but they have a contract with Burnett to buy programming.

And Burnett is supposed to be buddies with Drumpfskind, which is why he’s threatening lawsuits to anyone who releases anything from The Apprentice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:29:19am

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Well we’re talking about Trump cultists. People who actually believe he cares about regular people. They hate the GOP establishment who are running away from Trump but they love love Trump, their white supremacist in shining armor.

Remember, these people despise politicians and politics and usual, and they hate the GOP nearly as much as they hate the Democratic party. They are supporting Trump to punish both.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:29:21am

On the local news last night they had an analyst talking about the debate. He talked about what Trump did right and wrong and what Clinton did right and wrong, and then almost as an afterthought he said something like “Of course, Hillary is rounding third base.”
I think this is part of reason we’re getting the “horse race” narrative. The network accountants are happy to draw eyeballs, but they are able to do this because people who eat, drink and sleep politics are looking at each campaign independently and assessing where they could have done better, or what pitfall they avoided. They aren’t comparing them with each other-they’re comparing them with what each campaign did last week.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:29:28am

re: #65 BigPapa

That is so damn hilarious. They should be doing the exact opposite if they wanted to salvage anything from this carnage.

Trumpettes are blinded by their hate. Their racism and sexism TRUMPS their judgment!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:29:46am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, these people despise politicians and politics and usual, and they hate the GOP nearly as much as they hate the Democratic party. They are supporting Trump to punish both.

Yep.

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KingKenrod  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:30:04am
A company called WeSearchr said on Twitter that it paid for Shelton’s trip to the debate in St. Louis. That firm was co-founded by conservative media figure Charles C. Johnson, an outspoken Trump supporter.

There were actually news reports out this morning that claimed the Trump campaign paid for Shelton’s travel. Which means Chuck is lying about footing the bill or (more likely) Shelton scammed Chuck out of travel money she didn’t need.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:31:10am

WWE is also contracted to supply programming to NBCU. However, it has been a couple of years since WWE used Drumpfskind. They had him do a series where Drumpfskind supposedly bought WWE a couple of years ago. IIRC, some people thought it was real and it dropped WWE stock price.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:32:58am

These people.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:33:16am

re: #76 KingKenrod

There were actually news reports out this morning that claimed the Trump campaign paid for Shelton’s travel. Which means Chuck is lying about footing the bill or (more likely) Shelton scammed Chuck out of travel money she didn’t need.

Oh, I’d love it if she scammed him.

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:33:31am

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Hoping Barbara Comstock is one of those.

I’d like that, though unfortunately it doesn’t look like even a landslide victory for Hillary would do much to pry my district from GOP hands.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:33:59am

re: #78 lawhawk

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These people.

Always a conspiracy with these assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:34:51am

re: #80 Targetpractice

I’d like that, though unfortunately it doesn’t look like even a landslide victory for Hillary would do much to pry my district from GOP hands.

Hasn’t Riegel been not just running away from Trump but other extreme GOP stuff too?

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:35:03am

re: #7 HappyWarrior

As someone with a legal background, the Shelton one really pisses me off. I understand the woman was raped and I feel awful for her that she was but she doesn’t seem to understand that someone had to defend her attacker and that Clinton was extremely reluctant to do so but she had to. And honestly if these women really see Trump as a champion of women then I have to concede they’re so blinded by their hatred of the Clintons that they have no perception of reality. Bannon, CCJ, Trump, Stone, and all these clowns don’t care about women. Their past and present prove that.

If anyone thinks Trump wouldn’t turn his lawyer goons against any woman that would claim he tried to rape them or at the very least claim sexual assault by him they are not paying attention.

Candidate Trump would feel no remorse having to do it to save his butt. There would be no hesitation.

Those unfortunate four women are being used by a bunch of guys that are scum. It is too bad no one had the time to teach them about the Alt Right/Men’s Movement BS. They may not have allowed Trump to use them. He is abusing them all over again, and sadly they may not realize it.

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:35:20am

re: #78 lawhawk

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These people.

Hillary hasn’t had an episode at either debate, so of course there’s a conspiracy theory to it. At the first one, it was that she was doped with cough suppressants. This time it’s that they banned flash photography. The smell of desperation hangs thick over the Trump campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:37:15am

They’ll claim that people only voted for her because she was a woman and “male guilt” just like they have with Obama and “white guilt” too. I’m certain of that. Anything to de-legitimatize a Democratic victory and anything to ignore a Republican defeat.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:38:11am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:38:14am
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Romantic Heretic  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:38:56am

re: #13 Skip Intro

TRUMP: I’m going to jail everyone who says I am a fool!

REST OF THE WORLD: Do you have enough jail space for all of us?

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:39:00am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Hasn’t Riegel been not just running away from Trump but other extreme GOP stuff too?

Yeah, but Rigell’s not running for reelection. He decided to quit the VA GOP rather than wait to be kicked for not jumping on the Trump bandwagon. And his replacement Scott Taylor has put just enough distance between himself and Trump that he’s in no danger of being swept out with the rest of the garbage.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:39:08am

re: #84 Targetpractice

Hillary hasn’t had an episode at either debate, so of course there’s a conspiracy theory to it. At the first one, it was that she was doped with cough suppressants. This time it’s that they banned flash photography. The smell of desperation hangs thick over the Trump campaign.

This madness has been brought upon America for the most noble of causes — reducing the taxes of rich Birchers.

Inspirational, isn’t it?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:40:23am

re: #89 Targetpractice

Yeah, but Rigell’s not running for reelection. He decided to quit the VA GOP rather than wait to be kicked for not jumping on the Trump bandwagon. And his replacement Scott Taylor has put just enough distance between himself and Trump that he’s in no danger of being swept out with the rest of the garbage.

Ohhhh, gotcha. Comstock’s ran away from Trump too actually but this is a more competitive district than yours too. Plus I think Bennett is running a good campaign tying Comstock and her record to Trump by pointing out that she’s just as anti-choice.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:40:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:41:08am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

They’ll claim that people only voted for her because she was a woman and “male guilt” just like they have with Obama and “white guilt” too. I’m certain of that. Anything to de-legitimatize a Democratic victory and anything to ignore a Republican defeat.

And endless cries of voter fraud and manipulation.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:41:27am

re: #54 Targetpractice

My guess? Bannon. Out of all the actors in this play, he’s the one who has the least to lose by diving down into the mud.

My guess is what we’re looking at is a political variation of what Trump does in business: his investors (the voters, the GOP) are going to get soaked. The plan was always that they’d get soaked…even if (narcissist, grifter) Trump got all the support and full backing.

Cui bono? The other narcissists who see no contradiction in peddling internally-contradictory ideology and bilking their followers. That’s Bannon, definitely—but it’s also Alex Jones and all the various “prophets,” and the Tea Party-esque types who sell fear.

To fall back on two themes that are basically my mantras on this board:

1. The polar distinction of genuine belief versus grift can be resolved if the people involved have no “truth” except their own rectitude.

2. The wingnut culture has become a covered market in which vendors compete to sell “wares” that make their consumer base feel special.

I stand by my theory that Trump is re-branding himself as a demagogue intentionally. It’s new, faster con than his building schemes, and the current state of play means that it’s far easier to move cash around in ways that avoid scrutiny.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:41:33am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And endless cries of voter fraud and manipulation.

ACORN!

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:42:40am

re: #16 lawhawk

You could take practically anything Trump states and use that in the tweet’s format:

Trump: I declare X
Clinton: Do you want someone who says X in WH?
Trump: I never said X.

Otherwise known as The Trumpian Calculus. No matter what your answer, it’s crude, bigoted, and wrong.

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:43:00am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And endless cries of voter fraud and manipulation.

I rather think that will be the bigger part of the cries, because they want to avoid losing any more of the female vote. No, instead they’ll be screaming that she stole the election, as “that’s the only way a Clinton can win,” and every suspected instance of “fraud” will be blown up as proof that she “stole” the election. Expect to spend Election Day and Night hearing about machines to showed up with votes already logged, ballots that went “missing,” Republicans denied ballots, and other “fraud.”

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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:43:25am

re: #84 Targetpractice

Hillary hasn’t had an episode at either debate, so of course there’s a conspiracy theory to it. At the first one, it was that she was doped with cough suppressants. This time it’s that they banned flash photography. The smell of desperation hangs thick over the Trump campaign.

And yet even if she did have epilepsy (she does not), it would not be a bar to any public office (President James Madison, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, me - okay so I am putting myself in august company (:: ).

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:44:19am

re: #94 The Ghost of a Flea

My guess is what we’re looking at is a political variation of what Trump does in business: his investors (the voters, the GOP) are going to get soaked. The plan was always that they’d get soaked…even if (narcissist, grifter) Trump got all the support and full backing.

Cui bono? The other narcissists who see no contradiction in peddling internally-contradictory ideology and bilking their followers. That’s Bannon, definitely—but it’s also Alex Jones and all the various “prophets,” and the Tea Party-esque types who sell fear.

To fall back on two themes that are basically my mantras on this board:

1. The polar distinction of genuine belief versus grift can be resolved if the people involved have no “truth” except their own rectitude.

2. The wingnut culture has become a covered market in which vendors compete to sell “wares” that make their consumer base feel special.

I stand by my theory that Trump is re-branding himself as a demagogue intentionally. It’s new, faster con than his building schemes, and the current state of play means that it’s far easier to move cash around in ways that avoid scrutiny.

And if done right, it’s also extremely lucrative. I have little doubt that Trump is keenly aware of this.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:44:43am

Inevitably, Hoft cites the lone poll that has consistently shown Trump ahead:

If that poll was faulty from the outset, it’s showing itself to be faulty at each and every step along the way. It’s baked in a faulty result.

When every other poll is showing Trump losing by significant margins, for this one to consistently show Trump ahead means that it’s done something quite different and out of tune with every other pollster. That means this poll’s assumptions are quite different, and there’s no way to fix because they’re following the same group for the entire polling period.

Election Night will be a harsh reality for these people. Especially Hoft, who will quickly claim conspiracies are why Clinton won, instead of fact that Trump was historically awful and running against a historically well qualified candidate.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:45:31am

re: #92 Dave In Austin

Sad but True…. Heh…

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OhNoZombies!  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:45:40am

Donald Trump: The Art of the Deal Con.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:46:06am

re: #99 Dr Lizardo

And if done right, it’s also extremely lucrative. I have little doubt that Trump is keenly aware of this.

It’s telling that Newt is still in debt and likely always will be but Trump is basically syphoning money off the campaign to pay himself for the privilege of calling Trump Towers his hq.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:46:16am

re: #100 lawhawk

Inevitably, Hoft cites the lone poll that has consistently shown Trump ahead:

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If that poll was faulty from the outset, it’s showing itself to be faulty at each and every step along the way. It’s baked in a faulty result.

When every other poll is showing Trump losing by significant margins, for this one to consistently show Trump ahead means that it’s done something quite different and out of tune with every other pollster. That means this poll’s assumptions are quite different, and there’s no way to fix because they’re following the same group for the entire polling period.

Election Night will be a harsh reality for these people. Especially Hoft, who will quickly claim conspiracies are why Clinton won, instead of fact that Trump was historically awful and running against a historically well qualified candidate.

Yep, Hoft is going to be shocked when Clinton pulls out a win despite the writing being on the wall for some time. He really is the SMOTI. Proves it day in and day out.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:47:20am

re: #101 lawhawk

Sad but True…. Heh…

X2 a day at least. Sickening.

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:49:15am

Oh, and another prediction: The Election will not be over on Nov 9th. Trump’s ego will not allow him to concede so quickly after his defeat. He will spend days insisting that he’s going to bring lawsuits against the DNC, against the Clintons, against the states, against various individuals, in an effort to swing the election back in his favor. And when he finally does concede, it will not be through a televised speech, but instead a press release that is read by a surrogate arguing that he didn’t lose, he had the election “stolen” from him and the country should not accept a president who couldn’t win lawfully.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:50:31am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Yep, Hoft is going to be shocked when Clinton pulls out a win despite the writing being on the wall for some time. He really is the SMOTI. Proves it day in and day out.

It’s a cynical calculation, I think. Hoft knows damn well exactly what his audience wants to hear and he delivers this. There’s money to be made in this, after all. It’s really no different than any other media enterprise - you have a target audience or demographic, and you can create and market material that appeals to that target group. Whether it’s total bullshit or not is entirely irrelevant.

It’s a business. And it works, horribly enough. To make it work, you simply have to lose any shred of human dignity, conscience or ethics.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:50:36am

re: #94 The Ghost of a Flea

My guess is what we’re looking at is a political variation of what Trump does in business: his investors (the voters, the GOP) are going to get soaked. The plan was always that they’d get soaked…even if (narcissist, grifter) Trump got all the support and full backing.

Cui bono? The other narcissists who see no contradiction in peddling internally-contradictory ideology and bilking their followers. That’s Bannon, definitely—but it’s also Alex Jones and all the various “prophets,” and the Tea Party-esque types who sell fear.

To fall back on two themes that are basically my mantras on this board:

1. The polar distinction of genuine belief versus grift can be resolved if the people involved have no “truth” except their own rectitude.

2. The wingnut culture has become a covered market in which vendors compete to sell “wares” that make their consumer base feel special .

I stand by my theory that Trump is re-branding himself as a demagogue intentionally. It’s new, faster con than his building schemes, and the current state of play means that it’s far easier to move cash around in ways that avoid scrutiny.

Bolding mine.

I would be really interested to know the percentage of conservatives vs liberals who need to “feel special.” Most of my liberal friends/family don’t feel a need to be “recognized” or made to feel special. We’re pretty comfortable with who we are.
I have heard a certain number of comments from conservatives about wanting to be able to continue to do something or have access to something because it makes them feel special, or they deserve recognition.
This may be entirely due to chance rather than any actual statistical validity, but it does make me wonder.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:51:23am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

I’d love to see Johnson cause Clinton to win a state like Arizona she might not win otherwise. She doesn’t need AZ to win but I think if Clinton wins Arizona, it’s good bye to Sheriff Joe. Unfortunately, I think McCain is going to win re-election. It sucks because McCain really is one of the big parts of the GOP problem.

Sure would be fun to see McCain have to work under a Hillary Clinton presidency that won his state. That would be so much fun. Talk about a mandate.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:52:33am

re: #109 ObserverArt

Sure would be fun to see McCain have to work under a Hillary Clinton presidency that won his state. That would be so much fun. Talk about a mandate.

I’d prefer to see him out of the Senate of course but if he has to win re-election, I hope Hillary wins his state and as I said if she does win Arizona, I think it means very likely that Sheriff Joe’s being retired. I’d rather have him out than McCain. McCain is an asshole of course but Sheriff Joe is even worse.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:53:02am

re: #106 Targetpractice

Oh, and another prediction: The Election will not be over on Nov 9th. Trump’s ego will not allow him to concede so quickly after his defeat. He will spend days insisting that he’s going to bring lawsuits against the DNC, against the Clintons, against the states, against various individuals, in an effort to swing the election back in his favor. And when he finally does concede, it will not be through a televised speech, but instead a press release that is read by a surrogate arguing that he didn’t lose, he had the election “stolen” from him and the country should not accept a president who couldn’t win lawfully.

That wouldn’t be a surprise at all.

I’ll look a little further into the near future: When his court cases go to trial, and if any judgements come down against him, he’ll claim it’s all political persecution and that Hillary and the DOJ are acting like Third-World dictators and trying to punish him for standing up to them.

You can take that to the bank.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:53:32am

Popehat defends Hillary Clinton for doing her job-even if he hates her guts:

People also attack Clinton for laughing about the case during the interview. They find the tone of her description of her defense to be callous and disrespectful to the victim. This is a matter of opinion. It’s true that defense lawyers, in relating war stories, may do so in a tone that seems indifferent to the suffering of victims. I think that’s human nature. I’ve heard it from prosecutors and ER doctors and and surgeons and funeral directors and soldiers and other people tasked with handling grim matters. I believe it’s more a defense mechanism than a sign of true callousness to humanity. You’d go quite mad if you constantly talked about such jobs with the tone they deserve. I can understand, though, that if a lawyer discusses an ugly case with an interviewer (as opposed to telling war stories with colleagues), reasonable people may find a light tone unsettling. I find Clinton’s tone to be callous in the interview, but I recognize that’s probably strongly colored by the fact I really don’t like her.

I’m a criminal defense lawyer. I’ve represented people by appointment and voluntarily, and I’ve represented people accused of all sorts of things. I’ve made vigorous use of my client’s constitutional and procedural rights to attack the government’s case, even in cases were most observers believed it was clear that my clients “did it.” That’s my job. You’re free not to like it, and free to attack me for it. But I’m going to call you totalitarian and un-American if you do.

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:54:00am

re: #94 The Ghost of a Flea

To fall back on two themes that are basically my mantras on this board:

1. The polar distinction of genuine belief versus grift can be resolved if the people involved have no “truth” except their own rectitude.

2. The wingnut culture has become a covered market in which vendors compete to sell “wares” that make their consumer base feel special.

They have to keep those wares in ceramic bowls now. The customers don’t seem to feel special about the baskets much.

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:54:34am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

It’s a cynical calculation, I think. Hoft knows damn well exactly what his audience wants to hear and he delivers this. There’s money to be made in this, after all. It’s really no different than any other media enterprise - you have a target audience or demographic, and you can create and market material that appeals to that target group. Whether it’s total bullshit or not is entirely irrelevant.

It’s a business. And it works, horribly enough. To make it work, you simply have to lose any shred of human dignity, conscience or ethics.

Hoft’s business model is much like that of Jones: Capitalizing on wingnut anger. Pumping up the readers with false hopes, then monetizing the resulting anger when those hopes are dashed on the jagged rocks of reality. Presenting the false reality of the race being Trump’s to lose, while knowing that the race is effectively lost already, means he can turn the resulting anguish and fear into anger over a “stolen” election.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:55:01am

I would add that I’m not thrilled with the naked fact that the GOP is gored in the side and likely fucked.

That’s a vacuum, and the question’s going to be what fills that space.

A lot of money players for the GOP operate on a wholly cynical basis: zero fucks given about civil liberties so long as they get their deregulation and no taxes. The rest are “true believers” in various unstable, ideology-shaped notions that involve zero fucks given about most people’s liberties or autonomy.

Right now, the growing populist, revanchist right is distinct only because there’s a single point of chafing: the rhetorical style runs contradicts the “keep it subtext when it’s an away game.” But the disinformation-spreading and lying isn’t new, nor is the fear-mongering. That’s…not good. It points to a future where the safe money is to keep doubling down on insane shit.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:55:17am

re: #56 Belafon

Is the tape enough to end Trump’s relationship with NBC?

One would hope his relationship with NBC is already ended.

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:55:40am

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

That wouldn’t be a surprise at all.

I’ll look a little further into the near future: When his court cases go to trial, and if any judgements come down against him, he’ll claim it’s all political persecution and that Hillary and the DOJ are acting like Third-World dictators and trying to punish him for standing up to them.

You can take that to the bank.

Trump being a master of projection, you can be sure that any pending and future court cases against him will spun as “payback” for running against a Clinton.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:56:23am

re: #108 calochortus

I’ve noticed the same thing. They want to be rewarded just for showing up, as they did back in the ‘Good, Old Days’.

The only thing most of them had is that they are straight, white men. That privilege has been lost and they want it back.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:57:00am

So this utter bullshit is an Article Of Faith with the Deplorable Trumporrhoids==>

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Dave In Austin  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:57:00am

Enough of this, today is my Saturday. Off to the lake with me.

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sagehen  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:57:47am

re: #71 freetoken

Well, NBCU’s relationship is with Mark Burnett, i.e., MGM Television. Certainly if NBCU says they never want Drumpfskind on again they can, but they have a contract with Burnett to buy programming.

And Burnett is supposed to be buddies with Drumpfskind, which is why he’s threatening lawsuits to anyone who releases anything from The Apprentice.

Burnett and his wife (Roma Downey) like to claim they’re ultra-purity evangelical family values yadda yaddas. I ain’t buyin’ it.

Also… they’re the ones who produced that bible mini-series that cast an Obama lookalike as Satan.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:58:07am

re: #88 Romantic Heretic

TRUMP: I’m going to jail everyone who says I am a fool!

Missing a comma.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:58:25am

re: #114 Targetpractice

Hoft’s business model is much like that of Jones: Capitalizing on wingnut anger. Pumping up the readers with false hopes, then monetizing the resulting anger when those hopes are dashed on the jagged rocks of reality. Presenting the false reality of the race being Trump’s to lose, while knowing that the race is effectively lost already, means he can turn the resulting anguish and fear into anger over a “stolen” election.

Of course, and that means even more money. Bullshit sells - and the wingnuts are buying like it’s going out of style and they will continue to do so.

I’ve often thought; will the wingnuts ever realize they’re being duped? That they’re being swindled? I don’t think they ever will.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2016 • 11:59:25am

re: #118 Romantic Heretic

I’ve noticed the same thing. They want to be rewarded just for showing up, as they did back in the ‘Good, Old Days’.

The only thing most of them had is that they are straight, white men. That privilege has been lost and they want it back.

It’s actually pretty sad.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:01:47pm

Rage Furby is a short, pathetically out-of-shape 20-something that looks like a 40-something and believes he is some sort of alpha male. LOL. He’s a little fucking twerp.

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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:02:13pm

Huffington Post claiming they have a transcript of unaired moments of The Apprentice:

huffingtonpost.com

Top Democratic operatives have offered to pay millions of dollars for unaired footage of Donald Trump on the set of “The Apprentice,” hoping to unearth another unscripted moment like the one that surfaced Friday from 2005, when Trump said he would grab women “by the pussy.”

But it’s not just videos they should be looking for. “The Apprentice,” executive produced by Mark Burnett, had a transcript service. And on some occasions, transcribers captured moments that didn’t end up on air, according to multiple sources involved in the show.

It’s not clear how many transcripts exist. Sources say that some transcribers occasionally stuck to what they felt would end up in the program, while others took notes of what was said, regardless of whether it would air.

More at link.

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OhNoZombies!  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:02:16pm

re: #108 calochortus

Bolding mine.

I would be really interested to know the percentage of conservatives vs liberals who need to “feel special.” Most of my liberal friends/family don’t feel a need to be “recognized” or made to feel special. We’re pretty comfortable with who we are.
I have heard a certain number of comments from conservatives about wanting to be able to continue to do something or have access to something because it makes them feel special, or they deserve recognition.
This may be entirely due to chance rather than any actual statistical validity, but it does make me wonder.

I’m inclined to believe that there’s some validity to this. After all, the very campaign slogan suggests that there was a time when America was a better place…
It was a great time — a time when you could disenfranchise whole segments of the population, and one could grope women, great women they were, back then, because they knew to keep those traps shut! Everyone knew who was boss. //

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:03:02pm

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

So this utter bullshit is an Article Of Faith with the Deplorable Trumporrhoids==>

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The prosecutor of that case has defended Hillary for crying out loud. I feel awful that Shelton was raped but she’s let the fact that she was a victim of a crime cloud her understanding of the justice system and be fed right wing lies that Hillary laughed at her. I feel awful for her, I really do but she’s been had.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:03:16pm

re: #71 freetoken

Well, NBCU’s relationship is with Mark Burnett, i.e., MGM Television. Certainly if NBCU says they never want Drumpfskind on again they can, but they have a contract with Burnett to buy programming.

And Burnett is supposed to be buddies with Drumpfskind, which is why he’s threatening lawsuits to anyone who releases anything from The Apprentice.

Well then, is it okay if I hope Burnett crashes and burns too. I sure would love to see the end to “reality TV.”

If NBC was smart (and who says they are) they would realize all the success going on with the programming that has brought such hits as Breaking Bad, Game Of Thrones, Stranger Things and the like. They need to get creative again…not more me too base TV.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:03:43pm

re: #126 Anymouse

Huffington Post claiming they have a transcript of unaired moments of The Apprentice:

huffingtonpost.com

More at link.

I think these will be coming soon.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:04:11pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

Well then, is it okay if I hope Burnett crashes and burns too. I sure would love to see the end to “reality TV.”

If NBC was smart (and who says they are) they would realize all the success going on with the programming that has brought such hits as Breaking Bad, Game Of Thrones, Stranger Things and the like. They need to get creative again…not more me too base TV.

Not at all, Burnett’s a scumbag.

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Franklin  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:04:17pm

re: #125 Dr. Matt

Rage FurbyAlex Jones is a short, pathetically out-of-shape 20 40-something that looks like a 40 60-something and believes he is some sort of alpha male. LOL. He’s a little fucking twerp.

Wow, it’s uncanny.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:06:20pm

So it’s clear, I would have a difficult time as a paralegal working on cases for sex criminals but when you’re a young public defender, these are the cases you get. It’s a lot different than someone like Roy Cohn who chose to be a high priced attorney for mobsters but even then, I don’t think the fact that Roy Cohn and other mob lawyers like him means that they are complicit in murders just as I don’t think the German lawyers who had the unenviable task of defending the Nuremberg defendants were war criminals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:07:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:07:25pm

re: #132 Franklin

Wow, it’s uncanny.

I like to joke that Alex is Rush Limbaugh’s bastard son. Seriously though, I can’t believe Alex is only in his early 40’s. He looks much older.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:07:29pm

re: #124 calochortus

It’s my opinion that few people really realize how important the concept of ‘identity’ is. What the answer is when asked the question, “Who are you?”

People really, really need a positive view of themselves. They have to believe that, above all, they are not helpless.

Those on what is characterized as ‘The Right’ have lost much of their identity over the last few decades. Some of the forces that did this are good (civil rights, actual equality for all.) Some not so good. (‘Globalization’ and the reduction of many people to human resources rather than human beings.)

Since this was an unconscious process for the most part it’s not surprising that so many people have latched on to malignant tribalism in an attempt to gain a positive answer to the question, “Who are you?”

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:09:49pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He was busy tweeting during the briefing.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:10:05pm

re: #127 OhNoZombies!

I’m inclined to believe that there’s some validity to this. After all, the very campaign slogan suggests that there was a time when America was a better place…
It was a great time — a time when you could disenfranchise whole segments of the population, and one could grope women, great women they were, back then, because they knew to keep those traps shut! Everyone knew who was boss. //

Make America Great Again? Yeah, I know what that means.

African-Americans knew their place, the LGBTQ community was hiding in terror in the closet, women kept their mouths closed and didn’t insist on being treated - and paid - equally and everyone else who wasn’t a straight, white male would shut up and do what they were told. That’s what Trump and his ilk really mean by “Make America Great Again’.

It’s a whole segment of the population that simply refuses to accept that the world is changing. Instead of seeing recent historical developments as positives for American society and culture, this segment of the population is filled with fear and loathing.

Their world is gone. They’re just going to have to deal with it. Society, like any organism, either adapts to changes to its environment or it goes extinct in the sociological sense.

And with that, goodnight, Lizards. Work tomorrow.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:10:23pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I like to joke that Alex is Rush Limbaugh’s bastard son. Seriously though, I can’t believe Alex is only in his early 40’s. He looks much older.

Holy shit, I would have guessed he’s 50, at least. Can’t believe he’s just a few years older than me.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:11:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:12:02pm

jeebus, now he thinks he’s Michael Douglas in The American President.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:12:39pm

Something to ponder: James K. Polk, Woodrow Wilson and Richard Nixon are the only presidents who have won election despite losing their state of residence. As of today, Trump has a 0.4% chance of winning his home state of NY.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:12:46pm

re: #139 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Holy shit, I would have guessed he’s 50, at least. Can’t believe he’s just a few years older than me.

I know. It always surprises me too.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:12:52pm

re: #127 OhNoZombies!

I’m inclined to believe that there’s some validity to this. After all, the very campaign slogan suggests that there was a time when America was a better place…
It was a great time — a time when you could disenfranchise whole segments of the population, and one could grope women, great women they were, back then, because they knew to keep those traps shut! Everyone knew who was boss. //

Yes, of course, women also need to feel special, so the misogynistic part won’t apply to everyone.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:13:14pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

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Virginia gubernatorial candidate and somehow even worse than Ken Cuccinneli, Corey Stewart is there.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:13:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:13:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:13:48pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, now he thinks he’s Michael Douglas in The American President.

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I agree, Donald, that’s why I wouldn’t vote for you ever because you’re not a serious leader who understand the world’s serious problems.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:15:36pm

Good to see they’ve learned nothing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:16:28pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

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Kind of like how that one CNN Trump surrogate got pissy with Ana Navarro for using the word but still was supporting Trump. Ana called her out on that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:16:59pm

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

Good to see they’ve learned nothing.

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Ryan needs to be tied with Trump for the rest of his political career.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:17:49pm

re: #146 Kragar

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Well Trump is a pansy. Not a pussy. Vagines are actually quite strong.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:20:11pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

How to interpret that:
1) the GOP is screwed.

That is all..

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:20:13pm

re: #61 lawhawk

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How to interpret this…
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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:20:18pm

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

Good to see they’ve learned nothing.

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Don’t forget Frank, they wanted their Trump Cake to go over big at their Tea Party.

The pretty little tea cups are going to get broken as the party is getting ugly.

And yet, they wonder who did the party invitations.

Why, the answer is…you did!

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:20:55pm

In the episode, contestants were tasked with making over a country musician, and at one point Trump focused his attention in on singer Emily West and her skin.

“I assume you’re gonna leave this off, don’t put this shit on the show, you know. But her skin, her skin sucks, okay?” he says in the transcript, according to the Huffington Post. “I mean her skin, she needs some serious fuckin’ dermatology.”

Singer Cyndi Lauper, a guest judge on the show at the time, protested Trump’s comments and said that they used “dry stuff” on West’s skin, according to the Huffington Post. But Trump continued to criticize West’s skin.

“Fuck,” he said, according to the Huffington Post. “That’s Emily, that’s what I’m hearing about? Let me see the other one. I assume you’re not putting this on the show. ‘Cause I don’t wanna destroy the kid’s career.”

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OhNoZombies!  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:21:53pm

re: #146 Kragar

Oh no! Does that mean Hillary has lost the asshole-bully vote?

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:22:15pm

re: #136 Romantic Heretic

It’s my opinion that few people really realize how important the concept of ‘identity’ is. What the answer is when asked the question, “Who are you?”

People really, really need a positive view of themselves. They have to believe that, above all, they are not helpless.

Those on what is characterized as ‘The Right’ have lost much of their identity over the last few decades. Some of the forces that did this are good (civil rights, actual equality for all.) Some not so good. (‘Globalization’ and the reduction of many people to human resources rather than human beings.)

Since this was an unconscious process for the most part it’s not surprising that so many people have latched on to malignant tribalism in an attempt to gain a positive answer to the question, “Who are you?”

Yes, part of the problem is that people on all sides of the political spectrum do tend to look down on people in “flyover country” and those with jobs lower on the prestige scale. There is a lot of lip service given to the dignity of all work, but in real life, not so much. We don’t pay people enough to live on, but give them an inflated or nondescriptive job title, whether it is vice president of something or other in the financial industry, or a “co-worker” at the big box store, as though they should be ashamed of being a clerk.
(Don’t get me started on the euphemisms retail uses like “guests” and “co-workers”. You will regret it.)

Seriously, the vast majority of people are worthy of respect as individuals. They do their best, and should be treated decently and with respect.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:22:44pm

re: #156 Kragar

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Okay, “her skin sucks”, I’m convinced that Trump isn’t even human and he’s one of those aliens from Men In Black. The bad ones not the good ones like the wisecracking pug or the cute little baby one.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:23:40pm

Pence - “He’s a big man”. Uh, huh.

That’s not what he is. He’s a bully. He’s a bigot. And you are his VP choice of your own volition. He threw you under the bus, and here you are with not the slightest bit of dignity trying to defend the indefensible. Check that. You haven’t defended anything Trump’s said - only claiming that they are lies or not true (when there’s indisputable tape/video/audio proof).

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:23:51pm
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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:24:05pm

re: #144 calochortus

You misunderstand how Tricare works.

Back when it was the Department of Defense running CHAMPUS, private physicians were paid from the same sort of schedule as Medicare.

Then the Republicans privatised the administration of CHAMPUS into three classes. The upper two classes of Tricare require going to specific approved physicians. Tricare Standard is essentially the same as CHAMPUS (you can pick any physician but have to pay deductibles).

Military healthcare for dependants of retirees and disabled veterans is a contractual obligation of the Government (not a special snowflake argument). Retired vet dependents are the lowest category of service in a military clinic or hospital, but that service is an obligation of the government.

Thus, my own wife goes to a private doctor (as the closest base, FE Warren AFB in Cheyenne is so overloaded they send their military personnel to the VA Hospital there, which is also overloaded), but we pay a co-pay (because we have to support a private insurance company under Tricare we never had to support under CHAMPUS and that private insurance company needs their profit).

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:24:37pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:25:17pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

I’ve decided I’m going to start claiming it’s “Columbo Day.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:25:30pm

re: #160 lawhawk

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Pence - “He’s a big man”. Uh, huh.

That’s not what he is. He’s a bully. He’s a bigot. And you are his VP choice of your own volition. He threw you under the bus, and here you are with not the slightest bit of dignity trying to defend the indefensible. Check that. You haven’t defended anything Trump’s said - only claiming that they are lies or not true (when there’s indisputable tape/video/audio proof).

I thought Trump said grab them by the pussy not Grab them by the Pencey. Seriously Pence is a fuckign wuss. Trump throws him under the bus big time and has a craptastic debate where he discusses prosecuting his opponent and Pence thinks Trump is a big man. No, Mike, Trump is a small man just like you. You’re both pathetic excuses for men and I’m embarrassed for your children that they have you as fathers.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:25:30pm

Creeped me the fuck out live, creeping me the fuck out hours later.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:26:05pm

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

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Franklin  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:27:59pm

re: #164 Jebediah, RBG

I’ve decided I’m going to start claiming it’s “Columbo Day.”

No, that’s September 16.

“Oh, and just one more thing…”

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:28:14pm

Is there a statute of limitations for prosecuting war crimes?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:28:38pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:29:04pm

re: #170 Dr. Lexus

Is there a statute of limitations for prosecuting war crimes?

Don’t think so.

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:29:15pm

re: #162 Anymouse

I probably do totally misunderstand it. This is just based on what she said-the point was going on base was “special” and they weren’t going to be able to do it anymore, for whatever reason.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:31:55pm

hahahahaaaaa!!!

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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:33:00pm

re: #173 calochortus

I probably do totally misunderstand it. This is just based on what she said-the point was going on base was “special” and they weren’t going to be able to do it anymore, for whatever reason.

Military physicians, nurses, and corpsmen actually treat patients as though they are special; so do VA personnel. They take as much time as you need to answer all your question, ensure you understand your treatment plan, &c.

As they get paid the same regardless of the number of patients they pump through their offices, they can treat each individual patient as though that patient was the most important person they were seeing that day.

Amongst other things, it is one of the reasons I make a 250 mile trip to the VA in Cheyenne rather than 120 to see a local physician (that, and it is the government’s contractual obligation to me as a disabled veteran).

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:33:47pm

re: #175 Anymouse

Good to know.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:35:26pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahaaaaa!!!

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Yeah Jerry that makes total sense. He leaked a tape that could cost them their majority in both houses.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:35:35pm

Best version because of who posted it.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:35:40pm

Crazy Trump Supporter Pushes CNN’s Brooke Baldwin To The Edge

“Most men will talk about women in ways they wouldn’t talk publically”.

Wow. I’m speechless.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:36:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:36:19pm

re: #179 Dr. Matt

Crazy Trump Supporter Pushes CNN’s Brooke Baldwin To The Edge

Wow. I’m speechless.

Uh huh.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:36:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:36:40pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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Hey if he wants to think he did a great job, we shouldn’t stop him.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:36:46pm
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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:37:38pm

re: #176 calochortus

Good to know.

That’s why the GOP is so intent on trying to kill off the VA and the military medical systems.

They are the epitome of socialised medicine (the government provides everything to the physician, nurse, staff, &c). It stands in opposition to their ideological position that only the so-called free market can provide solutions to anything.

It is exactly why the GOP consistently underfunds the VA (which both Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton corrected when they were in office). Even Business Week magazine noted that the VA was the best large health care system in the USA.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:39:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:40:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:40:25pm

re: #186 gocart mozart

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Because presidents never watched movies before Obama. Man Trump is painfully stupid.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:40:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:40:47pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey Reince, you built that!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:42:58pm
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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:43:18pm

re: #179 Dr. Matt

Crazy Trump Supporter Pushes CNN’s Brooke Baldwin To The Edge

Wow. I’m speechless.

She is lost.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:45:03pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m convinced the undecided voter mentality is sustained by a cognitive bias that convinces them they’re intelligent because they’re undecided instead of the other way around. This look-at-me I’m so perspicacious that I can see both-sides-are-bad routine keeps them from processing information in any way that doesn’t sustain their indecision. Because their self assessment of their cognitive abilities depends, ironically, on not being able to tell the difference between shit and shinola.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:46:07pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:47:12pm

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:49:47pm

LOLWUT

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Lidane  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:50:13pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:50:28pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahaaaaa!!!

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calochortus  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:50:33pm

BBL Must go do Stuff.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:51:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:52:52pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:53:51pm
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Kragar  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:54:58pm
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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:55:16pm

re: #178 gocart mozart

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Franklin  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:55:33pm

re: #200 Charles Johnson

Ha!

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b_sharp  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:55:34pm

re: #146 Kragar

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:56:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:56:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:57:50pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:58:00pm
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Franklin  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:58:44pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, Kluwe nails it, as usual.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2016 • 12:59:34pm
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piratedan  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:01:07pm

re: #212 goddamnedfrank

maybe there’s a furniture sale going on there…

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:01:16pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:02:15pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

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Notice the timestamp on that tweet (sent via Android, which is donald himself, not campaign staff): 3:31 p.m.
His rally in PA was supposed to start at 3:30.

So, he’s backstage tweeting butthurt at his own fucking rally.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:02:15pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:02:52pm

re: #154 No Country For Old Haters

Trump has destroyed himself and taken the Republican party with him. Smooth move GOP. You knew you nominated a narcissist

Had they dumped him, he would have taken his supporters and gone 3rd Party

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Franklin  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:04:02pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:04:23pm

re: #212 goddamnedfrank

Trump supporters are laying siege to the RNC headquarters.

Trebuchets and petards or GTFO.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:04:35pm
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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:04:49pm

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Had they dumped him, he would have taken his supporters and gone 3rd Party

Mr. Trump won the GOP primary with a minority of GOP voters. The GOP could have decided to lick its wounds and focus on downballot races, and the 2018 and 2020 election.

They chose to support a sliver of their voter base. They deserve what they get for that.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:06:25pm

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Had they dumped him, he would have taken his supporters and gone 3rd Party

And the Republican party could already be rebuilding as a much less bigoted party after losing the fascist wing of the Republican party to Trump’s new openly-fascist party.

Another advantage of that scenario is that we would have gotten to see what insane-or-derpy name Trump choses for his terrible new party.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:06:56pm
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Jay C  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:07:13pm

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Had they dumped him, he would have taken his supporters and gone 3rd Party

Isn’t that pretty much what he’s doing now??

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:07:14pm
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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:08:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:08:16pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:08:39pm

Baby Whiplash has nothing to say about Trump lying every time he opens his freaking mouth hole.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:08:41pm

re: #195 No Country For Old Haters

Donald Trump isn’t going to engage with reality until he loses in a landslide, and is universally loathed.

even then he won’t. he will blame it on media bias, rampant PC, massive voter fraud and manipulation, and vote-buying with endless offers of free government stuff.

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:09:27pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:09:52pm

re: #169 Franklin

I see nothing wrong with celebrating it twice!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:10:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:10:11pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:10:45pm

Part of me is kinda hoping a fire breaks out at the venue. Just a little teeny one in a wastebasket.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:11:17pm

re: #220 gocart mozart

Trump ally Alex Jones says high-level sources confirmed to him that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are demons:

This is literally the only way they can pretend Trump is superior to Democrats. Trump is one of the worst people on earth, so they had to pretend the Democrats have demons. It was going to be that or lizard people, but the demons won.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:12:30pm

re: #221 Anymouse

Mr. Trump won the GOP primary with a minority of GOP voters. The GOP could have decided to lick its wounds and focus on downballot races, and the 2018 and 2020 election.

They chose to support a sliver of their voter base. They deserve what they get for that.

GOP candidates were hesitant to attack him at first, because the conventional wisdom was that trump would flare out by saying something too outrageous, and they wanted to pick up his supporters….by the time they started attacking him, it was too late, he had gained enough momentum and delegates to be unstoppable.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:12:35pm

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash has nothing to say about Trump lying every time he opens his freaking mouth hole.

Hillary got caught in a lie last night and blamed another video — “Lincoln.” It’s pathological.

Uh, Snidely? Check the transcript. It’s the literal truth.

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:12:41pm

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

The Office Fire Scene

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:12:57pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:13:00pm

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

Part of me is kinda hoping a fire breaks out at the venue. Just a little teeny one in a wastebasket.

Even that is enough to kill bunch of people in a place of assembly overpacked with dimwits.

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:13:08pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:13:48pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:14:17pm

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash has nothing to say about Trump lying every time he opens his freaking mouth hole.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:14:22pm

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

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Because he used to watch “In Living Color.”

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:14:45pm

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

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That son of a bitch is holding a rally in my home town…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:15:09pm

In the Breitbart “fact checker” page, literally everything Trump said is true, and everything Hillary said is false.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:16:05pm
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b_sharp  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:17:22pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

In the Breitbart “fact checker” page, literally everything Trump said is true, and everything Hillary said is false.

When’s the last time Breitbart was honest or right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:17:25pm
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Lidane  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:18:51pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:18:57pm

I just talked to a long-time customer who recently retired, joined the Peace Corps, fell into an irrigation ditch in Nepal, and came home. He’s plotting his return to Nepal as soon as his Physical Therapist signs off. He wants to take one of his bikes when he returns. He asked if he could come in and watch and help while I work on it, so he can learn how. I said, ‘Yes, that costs double.’ He’s thinking about it.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:19:08pm
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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:19:17pm

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:19:51pm
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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:20:30pm

re: #251 wrenchwench

I just talked to a long-time customer who recently retired, joined the Peace Corps, fell into an irrigation ditch in Nepal, and came home. He’s plotting his return to Nepal as soon as his Physical Therapist signs off. He wants to take one of his bikes when he returns. He asked if he could come in and watch and help while I work on it, so he can learn how. I said, ‘Yes, that costs double.’ He’s thinking about it.

I said, ‘Yes, that costs double.’

If he’s thinking about it, you’re going to have to raise the price to triple.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:21:39pm

re: #250 Lidane

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:21:40pm

re: #255 KGxvi

If he’s thinking about it, you’re going to have to raise the price to triple.

Triple is for when they help.

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:22:14pm

re: #255 KGxvi

If he’s thinking about it, you’re going to have to raise the price to triple.

With a note from his PT.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:22:21pm
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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:23:01pm

re: #252 Charles Johnson

Didn’t Monica Lewinski endorse Hillary Clinton? I suppose in that case Mrs. Clinton would all in for Chuck C. Johnson to pay her way.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:23:33pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:24:01pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:24:43pm

I believe that at the third debate he will actually physically attack her.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:26:12pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:26:25pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

In the Breitbart “fact checker” page, literally everything Trump said is true, and everything Hillary said is false.

Grifters gotta grift.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:26:41pm

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

I believe that at the third debate he will actually physically attack her.

He wanted to in the 2nd, and he’ll be more desperate and insane in the 3rd.

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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:26:52pm

Sen. Jeff Sessions thinks grabbing a woman’s genitals is a stretch to call it sexual assault.

huffingtonpost.com;

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:26:54pm

Warren Buffett takes Donald Trump to the woodshed.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:26:55pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:27:44pm

re: #266 No Country For Old Haters

He wanted to in the 2nd, and he’ll be more desperate and insane in the 3rd.

He was stalking her and invading her personal space, probably thinking “Should I do it? Should I knock her down?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:27:55pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:28:07pm

re: #267 Anymouse

Sen. Jeff Sessions thinks grabbing a woman’s genitals is a stretch to call it sexual assault.

huffingtonpost.com;

According to the Dictionary of American Men’s Locker Room English, that does not even qualify as “second base”.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:29:44pm

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

He was stalking her and invading her personal space, probably thinking “Should I do it? Should I knock her down?”

Subway rider ladies know what to do about that—a slow step back with a spike heel to the instep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:29:55pm

for future reference:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:30:09pm

re: #269 Kragar

And they’ve officially started eating their own…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:30:34pm

THIS PERSON IS A FUCKING IDIOT==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:31:13pm

THIS:

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Scottishdragon  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:31:34pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

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What the holy hell??

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lawhawk  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:31:58pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:32:04pm

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

THIS PERSON IS A FUCKING IDIOT==>

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But at least he knows that ‘neither’ takes the singular verb form. So, there’s that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:32:34pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:33:23pm

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

THIS:

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A lot of eyes are being opened. A lot are staying slammed shut. Those shut eyes can be seen by the open ones.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:33:56pm

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Im Voting 4 Jill Because the debate showed neither DJT nor HRC is qualified to be president

If you believe in politics as a means of throwing a public temper tantrum rather than choosing the best and most qualified candidate among those offered, then go vote for Jill

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:34:08pm

hahahaaa

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rhuarc  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:35:10pm

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

How is that even possible? I noticed it right away. I event posted on FB asking, kind of rhetorically, if you were Hillary would you be afraid to walk over to Trump’s side of the stage because it would cause your back to be turned. I said I wouldn’t turn my back on Trump at all.

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Tigger2  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:35:50pm

re: #219 Decatur Deb

Trebuchets and petards or GTFO.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:38:09pm

Say what you will about this turn of events, but clearly Trump has decided that he will go down to ignominious defeat as himself, and in doing so try to fulfill the wildest dreams of the Breitbart base. Laura Ingraham said as much last night, that they’ve been waiting 30 years for someone to beat up the Clintons like this, and clearly Breitbart’s heir Bannon is completely in the saddle.

If it all goes as it currently looks like it will, and he loses, I want to be able to ask Laura Ingraham, “Was it worth it? You got someone to bring up Bill’s infidelities, and threaten Hillary with jail in a Presidential debate. And all it cost was the White House, the Senate, (maybe) the House, and the Republican Party. Was it worth it?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:39:34pm

re: #285 rhuarc

How is that even possible? I noticed it right away. I event posted on FB asking, kind of rhetorically, if you were Hillary would you be afraid to walk over to Trump’s side of the stage because it would cause your back to be turned. I said I wouldn’t turn my back on Trump at all.

The same people who didn’t notice it are the same who insist that “grabbing her pussy” isn’t sexual assault.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:39:35pm

re: #286 Tigger2

Make the Middle Ages Great Again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:40:28pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

The same people who didn’t notice it are the same who insist that “grabbing her pussy” isn’t sexual assault.

See what happens if some fellow comes up and grabs their daughter’s…

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:40:46pm

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

Say what you will about this turn of events, but clearly Trump has decided that he will go down to ignominious defeat as himself, and in doing so try to fulfill the wildest dreams of the Breitbart base. Laura Ingraham said as much last night, that they’ve been waiting 30 years for someone to beat up the Clintons like this, and clearly Breitbart’s heir Bannon is completely in the saddle.

Denial is a powerful drug. Trump inhales it. He still thinks he’s winning.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:41:42pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hell, I wish someone would give me the job of “destroying Donald Trump”. Easiest damn job in the world for anyone with a microphone. Just put the mic in front of Trump and let him blow his chunks for all the world to hear.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:41:45pm

re: #291 wrenchwench

Denial is a powerful drug. Trump inhales it. He still thinks he’s winning.

donald actually believes that having 22 million followers on FB and twitter actually mean something significant for the election.

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:42:32pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

donald actually believes that having 22 million followers on FB and twitter actually mean something significant for the election.

Denial plus stupidity can do that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:42:35pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

donald actually believes that having 22 million followers on FB and twitter actually mean something significant for the election.

and that his results in online polling are indicative of the actual outcome of the debates…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:43:51pm

I couldn’t get to sleep last thinking about that question “what one positive thing can you say about your opponent?” and, really, I couldn’t come up with one single thing about donald.

Not. One. Thing.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:44:31pm

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

See what happens if some fellow comes up and grabs their daughter’s…

The emphasized word makes all the difference. RWNJs tend to be more outraged by their property being used without their permission than by violating bodily autonomy of women.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:45:04pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

I couldn’t get to sleep last thinking about that question “what one positive thing can you say about your opponent?” and, really, I couldn’t come up with one single thing about donald.

Not. One. Thing.

He was always a great topic for satirical humor, dating back to the 1980’s and Spy magazine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:45:40pm

re: #297 EPR-radar

The emphasized word makes all the difference. RWNJs tend to be more outraged by their property being used without their permission than by violating bodily autonomy of women.

well, those women are all sluts, but not their little princess….

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:46:45pm

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

well, those women are all sluts, but not their little princess….

Still the ownership word in there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:47:21pm

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was always a great topic for satirical humor, dating back to the 1980’s and Spy magazine.

true, but I was limiting myself to an answer that could be diplomatically provided in the context of standing on the stage at last night’s debate.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:47:25pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

I couldn’t get to sleep last thinking about that question “what one positive thing can you say about your opponent?” and, really, I couldn’t come up with one single thing about donald.

Not. One. Thing.

Me neither. Saying something like, “Mr. Trump, I really admire how you personally provide a synthesis of nearly all that’s wrong with American politics, thereby making it easier to lance this festering infection.” is perfectly true, but wouldn’t work at a debate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:48:56pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

He was always a great topic for satirical humor, dating back to the 1980’s and Spy magazine.

true, but I was limiting myself to an answer that could be diplomatically provided in the context of standing on the stage at last night’s debate.

That’s absolutely as close as I can possibly come to a compliment

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:49:48pm

re: #302 EPR-radar

Me neither. Saying something like, “Mr. Trump, I really admire how you personally provide a synthesis of nearly all that’s wrong with American politics, thereby making it easier to lance this festering infection.” is perfectly true, but wouldn’t work at a debate.

Closest I got was “he is really effective at encouraging enthusiasm at his rallies”.
Note how politely I put that…

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:50:11pm

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Stein should drop out of the race and endorse Clinton. There is no excuse for providing aid and comfort for an extinction-level event like Trump in a general election.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:50:43pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

Closest I got was “he is really effective at encouraging enthusiasm at his rallies”.
Note how politely I put that…

So was Hitler.

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:50:45pm

re: #285 rhuarc

How is that even possible? I noticed it right away. I event posted on FB asking, kind of rhetorically, if you were Hillary would you be afraid to walk over to Trump’s side of the stage because it would cause your back to be turned. I said I wouldn’t turn my back on Trump at all.

I heard Dean say it on MSNBC while I was driving around this morning. His basic, and I think valid, point is that most men don’t have to worry about being stalked or attacked, so they don’t necessarily see it. It’s one of those things where if you’ve never experienced a particular threat (or you’re in a position where you can counter the threat), you’re less inclined to see actions as threatening. For example: the difference in the way white people and African Americans view interacting with police.

I found Trump’s actions really weird last night, and because I had the comments here open picked up on the threatening nature, but without the commenters here I might have just thought it was really fucking weird that he wouldn’t just sit the fuck down when it wasn’t his turn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:51:27pm

re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s absolutely as close as I can possibly come to a compliment

Speaking of “compliment”, he couldn’t even graciously accept Hillary’s answer.
He said “I don’t know if that was a compliment. I’ll take it as a compliment. But I don’t know if she meant that as a compliment. But I will take it as a compliment because I am proud of my children.”

jesus fucking christ…

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:52:42pm
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Belafon  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:52:53pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

Closest I got was “he is really effective at encouraging enthusiasm at his rallies”.
Note how politely I put that…

I had a subordinate who was really good at getting sick on the holidays and could get the right dictor’s note. So we got a bit creative writing her reviews.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:53:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:53:12pm

re: #307 KGxvi

And he NEVER put down the microphone. He was ready to interrupt at every opportunity. He had a death grip on that microphone the entire time.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:54:48pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaking of “compliment”, he couldn’t even graciously accept Hillary’s answer.
He said “I don’t know if that was a compliment. I’ll take it as a compliment. But I don’t know if she meant that as a compliment. But I will take it as a compliment because I am proud of my children.”

jesus fucking christ…

Clinton’s answer may actually have been a bit double edged, but Trump would not have been able to see that if it were. After all, Trump’s kids are mostly awful, especially the ones most involved with the campaign, and Trump is incapable of seeing that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:56:18pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:56:44pm
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rhuarc  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:58:09pm

re: #307 KGxvi

I heard Dean say it on MSNBC while I was driving around this morning. His basic, and I think valid, point is that most men don’t have to worry about being stalked or attacked, so they don’t necessarily see it. It’s one of those things where if you’ve never experienced a particular threat (or you’re in a position where you can counter the threat), you’re less inclined to see actions as threatening. For example: the difference in the way white people and African Americans view interacting with police.

I found Trump’s actions really weird last night, and because I had the comments here open picked up on the threatening nature, but without the commenters here I might have just thought it was really fucking weird that he wouldn’t just sit the fuck down when it wasn’t his turn.

I’m a male and, in fairness, I didn’t realize how threatening it was from a domination standpoint like I saw quite a few abuse victims speak up about. I saw it as turning your back on an unhinged sociopath most likely coked up and not knowing what he would do while you’re standing there cleaning his clock on an intellectual level. That’s what I would have been afraid of.

But, I did notice his behavior and body language immediately as not right.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2016 • 1:59:42pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:00:30pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:02:07pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

I couldn’t get to sleep last thinking about that question “what one positive thing can you say about your opponent?” and, really, I couldn’t come up with one single thing about donald.

Not. One. Thing.

I couldn’t think of anything positive about his kids either.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:03:11pm

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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From that timeline: “Donald Trump is now attacking Teddy Kennedy over Chappaquiddick.”

Little-known fact—“Chappaquiddick” is the longest word 32% of deplorables can spell.

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Dr. Lexus  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:03:13pm

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:03:25pm

re: #250 Lidane

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:03:29pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:03:34pm

Of course, the media covered all of this TO DEATH in the 1990s. I listened to Jake Tapper struggle with trying to get through to that OTHER horrid Trump blonde, basically, “Yes, these women deserve to be listened to. But we already listened to them - extensively - back in the 1990s.”

But this is part and parcel of their crazy belief system, that if the media had just said the right words, in the right order, all their dreams of revenge would could true. It’s the same magical thinking as ‘Radical Islamic Terrorism’ and all of last night’s debate, including the warm-up act.

It’s like a guy whose girlfriend broke up with him, who can’t really accept it, and he thinks if he just says EXACTLY THE RIGHT WORDS, in EXACTLY THE RIGHT ORDER, she’ll realize how foolish she’s being and fall madly in love with him again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:03:56pm

Sorry Li’l Whiplash but it totally is. You should sue Harvard.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:07:08pm

re: #98 Anymouse

If she had epilepsy, it would have been apparent at the end of the Democratic convention when she and Bill were playing with all the balloons as everyone in the hall is using their camera phone flashes.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:07:53pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

donald actually believes that having 22 million followers on FB and twitter actually mean something significant for the election.

Katy Perry Shut that down With Just 2 Words

or am i late to this party?

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:09:06pm

re: #320 Decatur Deb

It’s the only place name they know from my state other than “Boston”.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:09:34pm

re: #302 EPR-radar

Me neither. Saying something like, “Mr. Trump, I really admire how you personally provide a synthesis of nearly all that’s wrong with American politics, thereby making it easier to lance this festering infection.” is perfectly true, but wouldn’t work at a debate.

hes helping other people understand why its so important to learn how democracy works

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:10:14pm

re: #248 b_sharp

When’s the last time Breitbart was honest or right?

Right before they bough the URL Breitbart.

As far as the man it is named after…maybe he never was.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:11:43pm

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Sorry Li’l Whiplash but it totally is. You should sue Harvard.

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Benjyboy would have fit right in with the Third Reich until he was caught in the Men’s room…

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:11:52pm

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

This is what happens when someone fully embraces the “I’m right all the time on every issue, and everyone who disagrees with me is Satan” foundation of RWNJ ‘thinking’.

Any education or native intelligence the person has is instantly made irrelevant, since the only purpose for these capabilities is constructing rationalizations for predetermined magical thinking beliefs.

At some level, I think most of these people know what they are doing and avoid inevitable challenges to this nonsense by totally rejecting reality.

It’s been a long time since the GOP as “the party of ideas” was a talking point.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:12:16pm

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NEWS: @SpeakerRyan just came back on call to clarify to angry members he is NOT unendorsing Trump

if you support a pig you are a pig
in this case a craven political one only interested in his job and power

(*apologies to the hairy, pot bellied, swine, sigh 4 legged ones)

(yep - i’m back)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:13:52pm
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dangerman  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:14:45pm

re: #317 gocart mozart

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i consider you in a certain way to be an:

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:14:55pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:15:10pm

re: #331 Joe Bacon

Benjyboy would have fit right in with the Third Reich until he was caught in the Men’s room…

Shapiro’s fate in the Third Reich is easy to imagine. His being a Jew would have been a non-issue for a while, as long as he was being a useful idiot for the regime. But he would eventually have made an enemy powerful enough to get Shapiro sent off to the death camps.

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bratwurst  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:15:23pm

Wow, so I guess Reince organized the call on short notice just to let everyone know everything is GREAT.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:15:30pm

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

I believe that at the third debate he will actually physically attack her.

Headlines: Trump Attacks Clinton - Shot by Secret Service - Condition Unkown.

SubHeadlines: America is not crying tonight, there seems to be celebration.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:16:35pm

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:17:10pm

re: #338 bratwurst

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Wow, so I guess Reince organized the call on short notice just to let everyone know everything is GREAT.

The giant N-way conference call just to let everyone know that everything is going just fine here, no worries at all.

Happens all the time, right?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:17:46pm

Someone photoshop the head of Michael Myers on Trump as he’s stalking Hillary on stage…

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:18:14pm

re: #339 ObserverArt

Headlines: Trump Attacks Clinton - Shot by Secret Service - Condition Unkown.

SubHeadlines: America is not crying tonight, there seems to be celebration.

“clinton orchestrates taking out any opposition”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:20:10pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:20:40pm

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

I believe that at the third debate he will actually physically attack her.

Shall we start a betting pool? I say Bill would kick his ass in the two seconds it takes the Secret Service to intervene.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:20:43pm

re: #337 EPR-radar

Shapiro’s fate in the Third Reich is easy to imagine. His being a Jew would have been a non-issue for a while, as long as he was being a useful idiot for the regime. But he would eventually have made an enemy powerful enough to get Shapiro sent off to the death camps.

The alt-right have ALREADY told Baby Whiplash, in the “nicest” possible way, he can’t board the Trump Train unless he rides in the cattle car and he’s like OK.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:20:59pm

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Harvard should sue him for making a mockery out of their institution.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:21:34pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:21:56pm

re: #282 wrenchwench

A lot of eyes are being opened. A lot are staying slammed shut. Those shut eyes can be seen by the open ones.

Eyes shut and they drive theTrump bus right off the first switchback up the mountain road.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:22:03pm

re: #347 GlutenFreeJesus

Harvard should sue him for making a mockery out of their institution.

No. There’s nothing Harvard, or any other college, can do about someone who deliberately chooses to be stupid.

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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:22:42pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:22:44pm

re: #338 bratwurst

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Wow, so I guess Reince organized the call on short notice just to let everyone know everything is GREAT.

The RNC/GOP offficeholders really need to publish a letter of solidarity and commitment with Trump. They should each put their John Hancock on it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:23:02pm

re: #345 Shiplord Kirel

Shall we start a betting pool? I say Bill would kick his ass in the two seconds it takes the Secret Service to intervene.

I thought he was going to throw a chair last night. He was clutching the chair and moving back and forth like he was about to heft it, maybe decided it was too heavy or he couldn’t throw it far enough. But you could for sure tell by his facial expression and his moves that he was thinking of picking it up and throwing it.

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Jenner7  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:23:19pm

I’ve only seen one house with a Trump sign, and today it was gone…or so I thought. I drove back past it and it was there, just moved so it’s hard to see.

Damn.

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:23:49pm

re: #345 Shiplord Kirel

Shall we start a betting pool? I say Bill would kick his ass in the two seconds it takes the Secret Service to intervene.

I was thinking Trump will attack Bill Clinton, because at some level he thinks that’s who he is running against. Not Hillary. Couldn’t be Hillary.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:24:00pm

re: #352 Decatur Deb

The RNC/GOP offficeholders really need to publish a letter of solidarity and commitment with Trump. They should each put their John Hancock on it.

The idea of GOP leaders pledging their “lives, fortunes and sacred honor” in support of the Trump candidacy is funny as hell.

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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:25:39pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:25:59pm

re: #355 wrenchwench

I was thinking Trump will attack Bill Clinton, because at some level he thinks that’s who he is running against. Not Hillary. Couldn’t be Hillary.

Trump WANTS to attack HIllary, YOU KNOW he wants to physically knock down Hillary just like at Wrestlemania with Vince McMahon, except he can’t think of a way to pull it off that would not end with him being hauled away in handcuffs.

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:26:39pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

I couldn’t get to sleep last thinking about that question “what one positive thing can you say about your opponent?” and, really, I couldn’t come up with one single thing about donald.

Not. One. Thing.

Yet Hillary got creative, made the mad dog Trump happy and gave him nothing he could use in ads. Hillary won that round. As I said earlier, she is creative and quick on her feet.

Why, she’d make a good great president.

And no, I am not kidding. I think she will surprise as a president. Just need to get her in the office.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:27:13pm

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

The alt-right have ALREADY told Baby Whiplash, in the “nicest” possible way, he can’t board the Trump Train unless he rides in the cattle car and he’s like OK.

He’s living Silver Streak in real life, climbs on board the Trump Train, gets thrown off, climbs back on, gets thrown off, climbs back on, gets thrown off over and over again. However, there is no Richard Pryor to help him…

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:27:58pm

re: #356 EPR-radar

The idea of GOP leaders pledging their “lives, fortunes and sacred honor” in support of the Trump candidacy is funny as hell.

There are plenty of Teabgger Republicans who will gladly sign that!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:28:45pm

re: #361 Joe Bacon

There are plenty of Teabgger Republicans who will gladly sign that!

May their names remembered be…

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:28:57pm
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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:28:57pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:29:45pm

re: #325 The Vicious Babushka

Sorry Li’l Whiplash but it totally is. You should sue Harvard.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:30:19pm

LOL THIS

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:32:00pm

I learned a new word today: esquire.com

The most predictable fallout from Sunday night’s gutterdammerung in St. Louis was that the leaders of what we now laughingly call the Republican Establishment would be wrapping themselves in their most eloquent weaselspeak as regards to their party’s standard-bearer. And we were not disappointed.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:34:04pm

re: #331 Joe Bacon

Benjyboy would have fit right in with the Third Reich until he was caught in the Men’s room…

I guess he’s the Ernst Röhm character, if Downfall had covered that era.

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Jay C  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:35:00pm

re: #357 Anymouse

While I can certainly understand and endorse his viewpoint, I think Mr. Holder is being just a tad naive here: in the (God-forbid nightmare scenario of a) Trump Administration, just who does he think that AG might be?

My guess would be somebody like Rudy Giuliani - a lickspittle hack for whom “courageous” (and still less “ethical”) is an alien concept….

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:35:22pm

re: #368 Sherlock Hound

I guess he’s the Ernst Röhm character, if Downfall had covered that era.

Please tell me that Ben Shapiro has not come out as gay. Milo Y is already too much to bear.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:36:24pm

re: #370 EPR-radar

Please tell me that Ben Shapiro has not come out as gay. Milo Y is already too much to bear.

He came out as stupid. Again.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:36:27pm
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:37:07pm

re: #369 Jay C

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While I can certainly understand and endorse his viewpoint, I think Mr. Holder is being just a tad naive here: in the (God-forbid nightmare scenario of a) Trump Administration, just who does he think that AG might be?

My guess would be somebody like Rudy Giuliani - a lickspittle hack for whom “courageous” (and still less “ethical”) is an alien concept….

Or Christie. Neither of them are Archibald Cox.

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Anymouse  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:37:22pm

Well, the fellow I defended in a letter to my local paper just lost any credibility with me. Sorry Senator Sasse, there was only one deplorable on that stage last night:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:37:47pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:39:12pm

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like seeing Paul Ryan squirm. I hope he goes down in history as the Republican Speaker of the House charged with placing the party in the weeds for a generation. He deserves special recognition.

Ol’ John Boehner gave him a gift that will keep on giving for a long time.

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:39:34pm

re: #369 Jay C

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While I can certainly understand and endorse his viewpoint, I think Mr. Holder is being just a tad naive here: in the (God-forbid nightmare scenario of a) Trump Administration, just who does he think that AG might be?

My guess would be somebody like Rudy Giuliani - a lickspittle hack for whom “courageous” (and still less “ethical”) is an alien concept….

Giuliani is awful, but would be one of the better possible AGs in a Trump administration. Chris Christie, John Bolton, the Duck Dynasty guy, Joe the Plumber. There’s just no bottom to any of this stuff.

Holder probably sees the truth here, but can’t really say it. I.e., that Law and Order for Trump et al. is the same thing it was for the Nazis in Weimar Germany.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:39:55pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

Does that mean he’ll never come to my state?

Please let that be so!

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:40:37pm

re: #374 Anymouse

Well, the fellow I defended in a letter to my local paper just lost any credibility with me. Sorry Senator Sasse, there was only one deplorable on that stage last night:

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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:40:40pm

re: #376 ObserverArt

I like seeing Paul Ryan squirm. I hope he goes down in history as the Republican Speaker of the House charged with placing the party in the weeds for a generation. He deserves special recognition.

Ol’ John Boehner gave him a gift that will keep on giving for a long time.

Boehner is just having the time of his life kicking back at the golf course while this insanity is going on!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:40:43pm
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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:41:40pm

re: #378 Sherlock Hound

Does that mean he’ll never come to my state?

Please let that be so!

Watch him show up in Massachusetts next week with Scott Brown!

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EPR-radar  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:41:49pm

re: #374 Anymouse

Sasse is an elected Republican official at the Federal level. That’s pretty much a 100% guarantee that he’s a jackass. His opposition to Trump is noted, but that’s not enough to not be a jackass.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:42:28pm
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Joe Bacon  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:42:47pm

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m from Ambridge. You can’t fit more than 500 in that field house…

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Tigger2  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:44:40pm
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Belafon  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:44:40pm

re: #369 Jay C

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While I can certainly understand and endorse his viewpoint, I think Mr. Holder is being just a tad naive here: in the (God-forbid nightmare scenario of a) Trump Administration, just who does he think that AG might be?

My guess would be somebody like Rudy Giuliani - a lickspittle hack for whom “courageous” (and still less “ethical”) is an alien concept….

I didn’t get the impression that Holder believed that Trump’s AG would resign. He just said that what Trump is proposing is as bad as Nixon’, and it was so bad that the AG resigned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:44:59pm
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Belafon  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:46:42pm

re: #386 Tigger2

How many “first time ever” endorsements does that make?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:46:43pm
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whitebeach  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:48:35pm

I finally thought of one positive thing to say about Trump: He has a tailor who can make him look like slightly less of a lard-ass.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:52:15pm

re: #385 Joe Bacon

I’m from Ambridge. You can’t fit more than 500 in that field house…

I guess Wilkes-Barre is next today. It’s a natural stopping point for a drive I do a couple of times year. So beautiful, that area. Two years ago we interviewed someone for a job from W-B. She privately confided to me after the interview that she was desperate to get out because of the crime and poverty. I imagine Trump will have a good turnout there.

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:53:16pm

re: #391 whitebeach

I finally thought of one positive thing to say about Trump: He has a tailor who can make him look like slightly less of a lard-ass.

Technically, that would be a positive thing to say about his tailor. Close enough.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:54:53pm

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:55:51pm

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oliver Darcy ✔ @oliverdarcy
Hannity says on radio he thinks Trump last night was “trying to be respectful” and “didn’t want to go there”
5:40 PM - 10 Oct 2016

He wanted to be a dick. He tried so hard to not be a dick. When it was all said and done, he was a dick.

Morning Conservative Media: The Dick Wins Out!

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:58:28pm

re: #389 Belafon

How many “first time ever” endorsements does that make?

more than any one else has every gotten cross party

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2016 • 2:59:29pm

re: #391 whitebeach

I finally thought of one positive thing to say about Trump: He has a tailor who can make him look like slightly less of a lard-ass.

Reminds me of an old joke about a guy who goes to a tailor for his first-ever tailored suit. The tailor takes measurements, later on the guy comes back for a fitting, finally the suit is ready. The guy proudly puts it on and models it in the mirror. Then he notices something - the right sleeve hangs just a tiny bit higher than the left.

“No problem!” says the tailor. “Just bend your right elbow a tiny bit, and they’re even!”

Sure enough, the guy tries it and the cuffs are perfectly aligned. Then he notices something else - the left shoulder is just a hair lower than the right.

“No problem!” says the tailor. Just raise your left shoulder a tiny bit, and they’re even!”

Sure enough, the guy tries it and the shoulders are beautifully symmetrical. Then he notices something else - the right trouser cuff is just slightly higher than the left.

“No problem!” says the tailor. Just bend your right knee a tiny bit, and they’re even!”

Sure enough, it works! The man thanks the tailor, and leaves the shop, walking proudly in his new, custom tailored suit - with his right elbow and knee slightly bent, and his left shoulder raised. He passes two women, happily wishing them good day.

“Look at that poor cripple!” says one woman to the other.

The other replies, “Yeah, but doesn’t his suit fit nice?”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2016 • 3:34:42pm

re: #372 FormerDirtDart

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That awkward noise you hear is Rick Scott shitting his pants.

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TedStriker  Oct 10, 2016 • 3:55:33pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I like to joke that Alex is Rush Limbaugh’s bastard son. Seriously though, I can’t believe Alex is only in his early 40’s. He looks much older.

Mainlining hate and CTs adds decades to people.

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Chez Ko Pe  Oct 10, 2016 • 5:51:23pm

re: #31 Sherlock Hound

I don’t think Garrison is a bad cartoonist—just an awful turd-like excuse for a human being. And this other cartoonist is exactly the same brand of filth.


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