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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:11:51pm

*running for bathroom losing lunch in a bigly way*

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:16:01pm

Can’t wait to see Kate McKinnon play Rudy Giuliani on SNL

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Thanos  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:19:31pm

I know everyone thinks this is new, but there’s nothing new under the sun that hasn’t come before in another form. Here’s a tune about a couple of mid-70’s dudebros:

David Bowie - This is not America

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Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:20:39pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:21:21pm

re: #2 De Kolta Chair

I see your scowling Rudy and raise you a ??? Alex Jones.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:22:02pm

Favorite tweet of the day.

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Dragonomics  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:22:15pm

A joyous convergence of libertarians, anarchists and white supremacists! What more could I want for a terrifically terrifying Halloween?

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:23:40pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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And their viewers are thinking, “DOS attack? Bill Gates told me my Windows XP 95 was totally secure!”

[Edited because I think Windows 95 is funnier than Windows XP. Can I get a witness?]

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:25:12pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:26:17pm

Looks like we need cat memes. Even better when combined with food.

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jaunte  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:27:02pm

“…Assange went on to claim that Private Eye was “part of a conspiracy led by the Guardian which included journalist David Leigh, editor Alan Rusbridger and John Kampfner from Index on Censorship - all of whom ‘are Jewish’”.

“I pointed out that Rusbridger is not actually Jewish, but Assange insisted that he was ‘sort of Jewish’ because he was related to David Leigh (they are brothers-in-law),” writes Hislop.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:27:03pm
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scottslemmons  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:29:42pm

re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus

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Don’t tell him how many followers Bieber has…

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scottslemmons  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:30:32pm

re: #13 scottslemmons

Don’t tell him how many followers Bieber has…

Come to think of it, don’t tell him how many followers Hillary and Barack have.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:32:25pm

re: #11 jaunte

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lockjawcanbefun  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:32:47pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

I post this again, but it does bear repeating for comparison.

Exit polls in 1991 gave David Duke 4 percent of the black vote.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:33:07pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

It’s a similar breakdown here in Mississippi. Of course that shoudn’t surprise anyone.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:33:09pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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Exhibit 482 on why I moved out of the state 25 years ago and and only have only gone back for family-related events - the total number of times which can be counted on two hands. The northern half of the state was then, and still is now, very much David Duke territory.

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:34:23pm

I can proudly state that I did not contribute to the bot-net. My TV is “hit on head with brick” stupid, and actually has a CRT to make the images appear. (that’s if it works at all, haven’t had it on on years). My thermostat requires me to actually go and move a dial and throw levers to make it work. I do have some lights that use X-10 technology, but I’d hardly call that “Smart”. The only reason I’ve got those is because I got a box of modules at an auction for 5 bucks. (and probably over-bid)

I’m not anti-technology by any means, I just don’t see the benefit of technology for technology’s part.

RBS

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:35:21pm

re: #18 Bill and Opus for 2016!

The problem is, New Orleans used to balance it out, but New Orleans, as a result of Katrina, is a much Whiter city.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:35:37pm

re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus

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By that logic Ellen Degeneres will be elected President in a landslide whenever she chooses to run.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:35:53pm

re: #19 Reality Based Steve

Same. I have a PS3 and XBox 360, but I gave them my own passwords.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:37:42pm

re: #13 scottslemmons

Don’t tell him how many followers Bieber has…

Bieber? There’s that name again. As I can remember he’s that hooligan who was arrested for speeding a couple of years ago. Someone said they had video. I said I would only be interested if he was driving an SR-71 down a public street and had Jimmy Hoffa in the back seat.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:40:44pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

A reporter, who’s name escapes me, who covers polls — now there’s a bitchin’ job — said on PBS News Hour tonight that a month ago poll averages showed that 24% of men were planning to vote for Clinton, and this week the polls show that 53% are planning to vote for Clinton.

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teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:42:32pm
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Cheechako  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:42:40pm

Slightly OT.

Ready for a break from today’s reality TV campaign? Last night I found a good political comedy on Amazon (regular Amazon, not Prime). The movie is My Fellow Americans. Made in 1996, the film stars Jack Lemmon and James Garner. Lemmon and Garner play former Presidents who are extremely bitter and resentful with each other but find they must work together to save the country from the current President.

The film is campy but funny and it does parallel the current campaigns.

I recommend it for a mental health break.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:43:14pm

re: #19 Reality Based Steve

I can proudly state that I did not contribute to the bot-net. My TV is “hit on head with brick” stupid, and actually has a CRT to make the images appear. (that’s if it works at all, haven’t had it on on years). My thermostat requires me to actually go and move a dial and throw levers to make it work. I do have some lights that use X-10 technology, but I’d hardly call that “Smart”. The only reason I’ve got those is because I got a box of modules at an auction for 5 bucks. (and probably over-bid)

I’m not anti-technology by any means, I just don’t see the benefit of technology for technology’s part.

RBS

Likewise here. I’ve got my router locked down as much as physically possible, and the only internet-connected device that stays powered up is my wireless printer. The device name on it is hidden from the outside world so wouldn’t be part of a botnet unless you REALLY wanted to spend time trying to hack into it.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:45:19pm

re: #14 scottslemmons

Come to think of it, don’t tell him how many followers Hillary and Barack have.

See one can be on twitter and remain obscure. Just look at my account. LOL. about 200 followers. @Rw_conspirator

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:45:23pm

Wikileaks because nothing says freedom of information like a KKK Grand Wizard supporting a criminal and pedophile that tries to shutdown the internet.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:48:05pm

re: #2 De Kolta Chair

Wassup with the thumbs down, please, Shiplord Kirel (Shiplord Kirel)? Let’s have it out and hug it out.

I think Kate McKinnon would be perfect as Rudy. For one, she’s got the facial structure, sorta kinda, and for two she’s a comedic genius.

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:48:06pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

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The only problem is that they can (and do) the exact same thing with a human head. Hippos account for WAY more deaths in Africa than lions.

They are not nice animals at all.

RBS

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:48:37pm

re: #29 Maxwell Not So Smart

Wikileaks because nothing says freedom of information like a KKK Grand Wizard supporting a criminal and pedophile that tries to shutdown the internet.

To be fair, the pedophilia accusations against Assange are probably bogus, as no one in the alleged victim’s family ever bothered to file charges, and the Todd and Clare organization seems pretty dodgy.

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Jay C  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:49:02pm

re: #26 Cheechako

Slightly OT.

Ready for a break from today’s reality TV campaign. Last night I found a good political comedy on Amazon (regular Amazon, not Prime). The movie is My Fellow Americans. Made in 1996, the film stars Jack Lemmon and James Garner. Lemmon and Garner play former Presidents who are extremely bitter and resentful with each other but find they must work together to save the country from the current President.

The film is campy but funny and it does parallel the current campaigns.

I recommend it for a mental health break.

Was that the film with the line from the Dan Quayle-esque VP: “They may think I’m an idiot, but it’s all just a clever facade” (pronounced fa-kade)?

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teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:50:14pm

re: #31 Reality Based Steve

The only problem is that they can (and do) the exact same thing with a human head. Hippos account for WAY more deaths in Africa than lions.

They are not nice animals at all.

RBS

They’re still my favorite large mammal. They’re so weird looking and yeah, they’re mean sons of bitches!

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Cheechako  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:51:08pm

re: #33 Jay C

Was that the film with the line from the Dan Quayle-esque VP: “They may think I’m an idiot, but it’s all just a clever facade” (pronounced fa-kade)?

Yes it is!

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:52:16pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

They’re still my favorite large mammal. They’re so weird looking and yeah, they’re mean sons of bitches!

I remember years ago being at a zoo, and there were some hippos in an enclosure. One of them suddenly started spinning his tail like a propeller, and the next thing you know, it was a literal shit-storm raining down on all of us standing around.

I do have to admit that it was an impressive trick.

RBS

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freetoken  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:52:45pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:53:23pm

Grifters grifting

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KGxvi  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:53:35pm

re: #8 De Kolta Chair

And their viewers are thinking, “DOS attack? Bill Gates told me my Windows XP 95 was totally secure!”

[Edited because I think Windows 95 is funnier than Windows XP. Can I get a witness?]

Windows 95 was the last version of Windows that I actually liked

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teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:53:52pm

re: #36 Reality Based Steve

I remember years ago being at a zoo, and there were some hippos in an enclosure. One of them suddenly started spinning his tail like a propeller, and the next thing you know, it was a literal shit-storm raining down on all of us standing around.

I do have to admit that it was an impressive trick.

RBS

This makes me like hippos even more! Heh!

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:55:29pm

Great selection, Charles, and imho Rand’s second volume is even better.

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William Lewis  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:58:13pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

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Given how insanely territorial hippos are, I’m surprised that they can do that.

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 21, 2016 • 7:59:34pm

re: #38 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Grifters grifting

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for some reason when I read “Grifters Grifting” my mind put that to music (which is really weird for me since I have NO talent in that domain).

Wish I did have some talent, I’d do something with this idea, the song that came to mind was Couldn’t Get It Right by Climax Blues Band. (who was in the first handful of concerts I’ve been to. They were opening for Head East, and I really was more interested in seeing them. Good show as I recall, and then the rest of the night involved a compliant young lady and a couple of bottles of T.J. Swan as I recall.

RBS

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:03:00pm

re: #42 William Lewis

Given how insanely territorial hippos are, I’m surprised that they can do that.

I sure wouldn’t do it wearing a “Watermelon Green” T-shirt.

RBS

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SteelPH  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:03:11pm

re: #8 De Kolta Chair

And their viewers are thinking, “DOS attack? Bill Gates told me my Windows XP 95 was totally secure!”

[Edited because I think Windows 95 is funnier than Windows XP. Can I get a witness?]

How about Windows 98, which blue screened on him while he was presenting it?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:05:02pm

Treasonous little shit is being a treasonous little shit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:05:55pm

Assange’s new fanbois fear for his safety and spin CTs at the same time.

The airport was London City Airport, which was closed briefly because of a “chemical incident” involving tear gas. business-standard.com

No biggie.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:07:34pm

re: #47 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Hopefully his little stunt today ends with him in chains.

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:09:50pm

I’m going to go read for a while, and then off to bed. You all be good, and I’ll catch you later on.

RBS

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:12:03pm

re: #39 KGxvi

Windows 95 was the last version of Windows that I actually liked

Agreed!

Though I gotta say Window 7 has its moments.

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teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:12:48pm

Instagram

Skiing is fun. But it’s more fun with friends. It’s always been that way and always will be.
In this shot, taken almost 70 years ago by Hans Truol, Toni Sailer, Anderl Molterer, and friends looks back at their tracks and talk about how much fun that was. They’ll talk about them again at dinner, and then again at the bar over some schnapps and a #hottoddy. #skiing #life #skiinghistory #tbt #arlberg #austria #freeskidreamtrip

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:22:22pm

re: #48 Ziggy_TARDIS

Hopefully his little stunt today ends with him in chains.

There is no evidence Assange ordered the attack. Chill out. Besides, he’s on Ecuadorian territory, so the only people who can arrest him are Ecuadorians.

NBC News had a report this week that sources close to the Ecuadorian government and its London embassy are really getting tired of Assange hanging around. Maybe this DDOS attack will encourage them to evict him as more trouble than he’s worth.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:26:38pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

See now that is a photo that really tells the story. Textbook composition and silhouettes.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:28:19pm

Oliver Stone directing an Edward Snowden bio-pic is a cliche. The sordid tale deserves better.

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Anymouse  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:31:45pm

re: #19 Reality Based Steve

I can proudly state that I did not contribute to the bot-net. My TV is “hit on head with brick” stupid, and actually has a CRT to make the images appear. (that’s if it works at all, haven’t had it on on years). My thermostat requires me to actually go and move a dial and throw levers to make it work. I do have some lights that use X-10 technology, but I’d hardly call that “Smart”. The only reason I’ve got those is because I got a box of modules at an auction for 5 bucks. (and probably over-bid)

I’m not anti-technology by any means, I just don’t see the benefit of technology for technology’s part.

RBS

Ditto here. My thermostat is mechanical, I don’t own a television, my refrigerator has a mechanical thermostat, and my telephone has a dial and a wire to the wall.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:32:55pm

re: #55 Anymouse

Ditto here. My thermostat is mechanical, I don’t own a television, my refrigerator has a mechanical thermostat, and my telephone has a dial and a wire to the wall.

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freetoken  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:33:22pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:35:28pm

Gestural control of the internet of things.

+VFSBFb8cmSgvc1UeTHrXYxuysLNM+0sV2jJ3j7DjRTLNRvyiWLl4PGe4KoQ7+n8xEaUpj/0lU6uEr4PNyCKvm8mStDUC4ts4vS89sVNvpCdrI2OdpWrP5JjTL1Vls/cOvUPs9TRmVyy6HMsXoqxXGpLLEa/XC7S4Enh2VPXZODrWVWglZkd6ATnaysLEPiey7U5iOh5LD2voly7nrORA2ytTo2/mD7j6Jg7bFnRPwX9qjpsSn1Q8EINVlm+N7FMrTYCK2Qn6X2JxF7aeA2enwkaVjIgPz/hc5dRyKAYmVenHlWlxhAelzOaatHgyrl98onij7OC55f+hXzWgEotF35jWS57y1YxcNAPR+QXf3MbQ/Teqz7cUWv6C9oBjj78wgtT+F1CLN8kh5YxQotOHw==

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:36:10pm

New Trump hotel properties will reportedly be named “Scion,” and not “Trump.”

travelandleisure.com

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jaunte  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:36:49pm
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retired cynic  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:39:39pm

re: #57 freetoken

That is so athletic, it would make a heck of an ice dancing routine!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:40:52pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:41:00pm

Worth checking out, what purports to be the Twitter account of the last Blockbuster store in the USA.

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Anymouse  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:41:40pm

Wonkette making fun of Drudge Report.

Drudge Report posted to its front page a group of African American youth beating a car with Trump and Pence swag, proof that African Americans are uncivilised or something.

A few minutes after the video went up, another person who videoed the videographer noted that this was a stunt, had nothing to do with Trump or anything else, and certainly did not show vandalising a Trump supporter’s car.

wonkette.com

They show some other pranks of the same videographer.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:43:21pm

re: #47 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Assange’s new fanbois fear for his safety and spin CTs at the same time.

If they feel that strongly about it they should pool their lunch money and rent a dirigible and pull off a daring escape to Hogwarts or wherever.

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retired cynic  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:45:03pm

re: #65 De Kolta Chair

If they feel that strongly about it they should pool their lunch money and rent a dirigible and pull off a daring escape to Hogwarts or wherever.

Just follow the train!

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:45:47pm

re: #60 jaunte

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The latest fad: self-destructing drones? Sign me up!

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:47:45pm

re: #66 retired cynic

Just follow the train!

Just be wary of dementors. They’ll grab your chocolate frogs in an instant.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:50:27pm

Oh Yeah!

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retired cynic  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:51:33pm

re: #69 Dave In Austin

OMG!

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teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:52:12pm

re: #69 Dave In Austin

That’s silly!

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:54:00pm
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De Kolta Chair  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:54:43pm

re: #69 Dave In Austin

Oh Yeah!

WHOA!!! That’s great!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:57:49pm

I learned something new today. Hazel Lee of Portland, OR, was the first female Chinese-American pilot in the US military. She took her first flying lessons in the 1930s, and signed up with the WASPs in ‘43 after trying unsuccessfully to fly for the Chinese military. She died a year later at age 32 in an airfield collision with another P-63.

en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse  Oct 21, 2016 • 8:59:16pm

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Worth checking out, what purports to be the Twitter account of the last Blockbuster store in the USA.

[Embedded content]

The last Blockbuster store closed some time ago; Blockbuster actually made a big deal for the news about the last video ever rented from them.

cnet.com

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Anymouse  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:01:29pm

The store was in Hawai’i, the last video rented was the 2013 comedy This is the End (how appropriate)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:01:34pm

re: #70 retired cynic

OMG!

re: #71 teleskiguy

That’s silly!

re: #73 De Kolta Chair

WHOA!!!

I know it’s hokey but the hit is exquisite.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:02:05pm

re: #75 Anymouse

The last Blockbuster store closed some time ago; Blockbuster actually made a big deal for the news about the last video ever rented from them.

cnet.com

It’s a joke account, and pretty funny. A lot like @StansaidAirport

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Anymouse  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:04:59pm

re: #78 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s a joke account, and pretty funny. A lot like @StansaidAirport

That account and DPRK News Service are pretty funny:

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:09:00pm

The twitter responses are pretty much what you would expect

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:15:02pm

Salma Hayek says she once refused to go out on a date with Donald Trump, and he later criticized her for being “too short” in a National Enquirer article.

thehill.com

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:15:14pm

re: #80 FormerDirtDart

The twitter responses are pretty much what you would expect

Hillary Clinton’s campaign headquarters was evacuated after a ‘suspicious substance’ was found in a letter

What’s strange is that only the NY Post and Daily Mail are reporting this

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:16:15pm

re: #30 De Kolta Chair

Wassup with the thumbs down, please, Shiplord Kirel (Shiplord Kirel)? Let’s have it out and hug it out.

I think Kate McKinnon would be perfect as Rudy. For one, she’s got the facial structure, sorta kinda, and for two she’s a comedic genius.

Sorry about that, a malfunction of some sort, either digital (fat clumsy digits) or failure to use spillcheck to prevent sticky keys. Just corrected.

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MsJ  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:16:30pm

re: #80 FormerDirtDart

Top stories at the post.

I’m frightened for this country.

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Kragar  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:18:04pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:20:14pm

re: #84 MsJ

Someone get me an ice pack.
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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:22:44pm

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Salma Hayek says she once refused to go out on a date with Donald Trump, and he later criticized her for being “too short” in a National Enquirer article.

thehill.com

Salma is only 4’3” but nobody has ever noticed.

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teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:24:20pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel

Salma is only 4’3” but nobody has ever noticed.

She’s 5’ 2” but who’s paying attention? Where’s muh beer?!?

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retired cynic  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:25:08pm

re: #88 teleskiguy

She’s 5’ 2” but who’s paying attention? Where’s muh beer?!?

5’2” is short???? Hey!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:25:47pm

re: #85 Kragar

Yeah, read about that earlier. A bit misleading.
A “new” chain of 4-star hotels will be branded “Scion”. Trump Hotels signature 5-star establishments will retain the family brand.
Though, I do wonder if Toyota will sue about the use of “Scion”.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:26:38pm

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teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:26:45pm

re: #89 retired cynic

5’2” is short???? Hey!

About the only average thing about me, I’m 5’9”.

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retired cynic  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:27:10pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

About the only average thing about me, I’m 5’9”.

Yeah, but you’re not Salma Hayek!

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:27:39pm

WTF is wrong with these people? YouGov hired by Huffpo. In a sane year there would be a decimal shift to the left. One point nine percent would say if HRC wins etc etc. Tis my dear internet friends is completely nuts. If this is correct we can reasonably expect trouble from more than one in ten of us no matter who wins?
today.yougov.com

If Hillary Clinton wins the presidential election, do you think it would or would not be justified for citizens to take violent action against the government?
Asked of those who would rather see Donald Trump win the election
Violent action would be justified . . 19%
If Donald Trump wins the presidential election, do you think it would or would not be justified for citizens to take violent action against the government?
Asked of those who would rather see Hillary Clinton win the election
Violent action would be justified … 15%

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:34:47pm

re: #60 jaunte

So now we know how Skynet will happen.

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Anymouse  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:35:47pm

ESA Mars probe found crashed on Mars by an American satellite:

bbc.com

Data from the probe as it descended to Mars indicated it ejected its parachute early, and only fired its retrorockets for a few seconds rather than the pre-programmed thirty seconds.

The parachute is also seen in the photograph about a kilometre away from the probe crash site.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:38:49pm

re: #93 retired cynic

Yeah, but you’re not Salma Hayek!

Probably given a shave and the right makeup………….

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Targetpractice  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:38:49pm

re: #96 Anymouse

ESA Mars probe found crashed on Mars by an American satellite:

bbc.com

Data from the probe as it descended to Mars indicated it ejected its parachute early, and only fired its retrorockets for a few seconds rather than the pre-programmed thirty seconds.

The parachute is also seen in the photograph about a kilometre away from the probe crash site.

Well, that sucks.

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Anymouse  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:40:48pm

re: #94 Great White Snark

WTF is wrong with these people? YouGov hired by Huffpo. In a sane year there would be a decimal shift to the left. One point nine percent would say if HRC wins etc etc. Tis my dear internet friends is completely nuts. If this is correct we can reasonably expect trouble from more than one in ten of us no matter who wins?
today.yougov.com

Doesn’t YouGov do on-line polls?

Speaking of polls, a pollster called my house today. My wife answered it.

They identified themselves as some sort of “pro-life” group, and asked my wife if she was in favour of abortion (described by the pollster as “killing babies”).

She went off on the pollster noting that there ain’t no such thing as a baby before it is born and hung up.

I would have approached such a pollster differently, rounding with a question “do you support the death penalty” or perhaps “are you a forced-birther,” or maybe “do you support comprehensive child support for single mothers through age eighteen by the government?”

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mmmirele  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:41:07pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, read about that earlier. A bit misleading.
A “new” chain of 4-star hotels will be branded “Scion”. Trump Hotels signature 5-star establishments will retain the family brand.
Though, I do wonder if Toyota will sue about the use of “Scion”.

I remember back in the dark ages aka the 1980s, LexisNexis sued Lexus for trademark confusion, which is not quite the same thing here. ETA: A judge ruled there would be no confusion.

I’m thinking Toyota would have a case for trademark disparagement. Heck, it’s worth a try.

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William Lewis  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:41:52pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

Well, that sucks.

True, but I’m far more concerned about Juno.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:43:33pm

re: #99 Anymouse

Yes, Yougov does online polls. Not only that, but they were one of the pollsters that got Brexit wrong, if I am not mistaken.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:43:51pm

re: #101 William Lewis

Yeah, Juno is having some serious problems.

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mmmirele  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:45:10pm

re: #101 William Lewis

True, but I’m far more concerned about Juno.

It looks like Juno is OK:

NASA’s Jupiter probe was supposed gather data when it did a close flyby of the gas giant a few days ago. Alas, it suddenly switched off all its scientific instruments as it unexpectedly entered safe mode due to some engine troubles. Thankfully, it was a temporary setback: Juno is now back and ready to do science the next time it’s scheduled to soar close to the planet (December 11th).

engadget.com

The space around Jupiter is just awful with radiation; I was thinking the probe had been zapped and was no longer functional. This is reasonably good news.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:46:29pm

re: #99 Anymouse

Doesn’t YouGov do on-line polls?

Speaking of polls, a pollster called my house today. My wife answered it.

They identified themselves as some sort of “pro-life” group, and asked my wife if she was in favour of abortion (described by the pollster as “killing babies”).

She went off on the pollster noting that there ain’t no such thing as a baby before it is born and hung up.

I would have approached such a pollster differently, rounding with a question “do you support the death penalty” or perhaps “are you a forced-birther,” or maybe “do you support comprehensive child support for single mothers through age eighteen by the government?”

Good point. Hey, I’d love to think this is meaningless. But holy crap batman. However they managed that poll at a minimum a bunch of people in a way voted for violence again and again. Or worse that many of us think that way even if far fewer would act on it.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:49:51pm

re: #102 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yes, Yougov does online polls. Not only that, but they were one of the pollsters that got Brexit wrong, if I am not mistaken.

FTR from their site

YouGov
October 19 - 20, 2016
Interviewing Dates October 19 - 20, 2016

Target population U.S. citizens, aged 18 and over.

Sampling method
Respondents were selected from YouGov’s opt-in Internet panel using sample matching. A random sample (stratified by gender, age, race, education, voter registration, political ideology, party identification, geographic region, and
voter registration) was selected from the 2014 American Community Study.
Voter registration and party identification were imputed from the November
2014 Current Population Survey Registration and Voting Supplement.

Weighting
The sample was weighted using propensity scores based on gender, age,
race, education, political ideology, geographic region and voter registration.
The weights range from 0.102 to 6.115, with a mean of one and a standard
deviation of 0.952.
Number of respondents 1000
Margin of error ± 4.3% (adjusted for weighting)
Survey mode Web-based interviews
Questions not reported 19 questions not reported.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:50:37pm

*guilty laugh*

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Anymouse  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:51:32pm

re: #106 Great White Snark

Opt-in sample matching, in other words, about worth the paper the poll was printed on over the Internet.

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freetoken  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:55:50pm

Currently there are three time-travel series on American television: Timeless, Frequency, and Legends of Tomorrow. The latter is a super-hero series aimed at children and young adults so I’ll skip criticizing it (other than to say the story is usually one god-in-the-box after another.)

After binge watching the other two, this week both of them committed the same time-travel paradox error:

In Timeless the government boss exclaims to one of our heros that the badguys, who went back to early 1960’s Las Vegas, had an hour head start on our protagonists.

Um, no, they have a 56 year head start. Already in the Timeless universe it has been shown that changes in the past affect the timeline in which our heroes return. So whatever the bad guys did 56 years ago would have manifested itself already.

Ok, onto Frequency. In the latest episode our heroine is chasing a bad guy, catches him, they fight, she gets bloodied but still handcuffs him. Because she thinks he killed her mother, she takes him to an empty lot and starts to beat him. Then she pulls her gun to shoot him… and he disappears.

Because, we are let to be believed, her father 20 years earlier had just been chasing said bad guy, who ran in front of a car and got killed. So that is why the bad guy in 2016 disappears. But… her bloody face is still bloody. Why didn’t her wounds disappear also?

Again, the problem is that what happened in 1996 should have happened 20 years before, not in real-time with 2016.

Anyway, both shows make the same error in not having the past really be the past, but instead have the present running simultaneously with the past, which is an oxymoron.

Time travel stories are notoriously hard to keep logical. 11.22.63 did a decent job. Most do not.

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William Lewis  Oct 21, 2016 • 9:59:34pm

Time travel is hard to do right.

By His Bootstraps or The Door Into Summer? Now that’s more like it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:06:00pm

re: #109 freetoken

I am right there with you on this. Big time.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:07:25pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:13:24pm

re: #109 freetoken

The latter is a super-hero series aimed at children and young adults so I’ll skip criticizing it

Thanks for that. I watch it. If that makes me a child or a YA, I represent that remark.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:14:58pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

Read the Bible, bitch! sounds like it should be the name of a collegehumor video or something.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:25:15pm

re: #109 freetoken

Have you seen the indie film Primer? It made an attempt at being logical in its approach to time travel, at least as best you can.

If you want to really see time travel stories get wonky, at the end of last season, Barry Allen (The Flash) goes back in time to prevent his mother being killed by a supervillain, whom he imprisons in a cage somewhere. In the original timeline, Barry’s mom died when he was a child. But in the new timeline, at the start of the new season, the time traveler Barry is a 20-something living with mom and dad. What happened to little boy Barry, and why does time traveler Barry not co-exist with the grown-up version of the little Barry?

So, that’s one problem. Then, TT Barry begins to lose memories of the previous timeline. The arch-villain tells him you fucked up, Barry The only way to fix things is to return to the past again and allow villain to kill mom. So they do. Mom dies. Barry returns to what he thinks is the original timeline, but nope. Things are still wack. Plus, events have changed in the associated Arrow series, which exists in the same universe, as does Legends of Tomorrow.

It’s all mindless fun, but I wish the scriptwriters would some more thought into these time travel stories. Even an 9-year-old can see the plot holes.

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teleskiguy  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:26:50pm

For some reason this tweet o’ mine has seen an uptick in activity.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:30:16pm

Well, the alarm goes off in 6 hours. Given that normal bedtime isn’t for another three, I’m not sure how well sleep is going to work, but I should probably give it a try because we don’t arrive at the hotel until about 26 or 27 hours after we get up tomorrow.

I wish all Lizards as sane a remainder of the election season as possible. Our ballots got dropped off this morning and so our part is done. Hold down the fort, drop me a private tag if there’s something you think I should desperately see, and I’ll try to pop in occasionally with some pictures of autumn foliage. Back in time to hopefully celebrate with you all on election night. :)

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:31:12pm

My favorite time-travel story is one of Harry Turtledove’s first stories, Death in Vesunna.

It’s set in Roman times, handling a trope we know well: People from an advanced era have nice technology and act like gods.

In this case, it’s a pair of criminals who shoot someone for a rare scroll.

Despite what one might think, it doesn’t end well for the two criminals. At all.

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CleverToad  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:35:06pm

re: #117 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, the alarm goes off in 6 hours. Given that normal bedtime isn’t for another three, I’m not sure how well sleep is going to work, but I should probably give it a try because we don’t arrive at the hotel until about 26 or 27 hours after we get up tomorrow.

I wish all Lizards as sane a remainder of the election season as possible. Our ballots got dropped off this morning and so our part is done. Hold down the fort, drop me a private tag if there’s something you think I should desperately see, and I’ll try to pop in occasionally with some pictures of autumn foliage. Back in time to hopefully celebrate with you all on election night. :)

Bon Voyage!!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:46:21pm

Well, looks like it’s finally getting picked up

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BroncD  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:46:24pm

Even the “Obamafied” image of Assange looks rape-y. That’s hard to do.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 21, 2016 • 10:55:45pm

China is still asserting it has wide territorial rights over the South China Sea, despite international courts saying it doesn’t.

Chinese warships warn ‘provocative’ US destroyer near contested islands in South China Sea
scmp.com

The US Navy periodically sails through the area to assert international rights of passage, and the Chinese navy and foreign ministry generally respond with warnings and demands to leave the area. Rinse, lather, repeat.

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meteor  Oct 21, 2016 • 11:19:41pm

re: #21 Bill and Opus for 2016!

By that logic Ellen Degeneres will be elected President in a landslide whenever she chooses to run.

She’s running? Awesome!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 21, 2016 • 11:22:35pm

re: #123 meteor

She’s running? Awesome!

He’s got twitter followers, facebook friends, and lots of people buying his costumes. The only thing Trump doesn’t have is votes.

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Anymouse  Oct 21, 2016 • 11:23:58pm

salon.com

Salon reports the latest round of John Podesta E-mails includes a forward from Think Progress about Nicki Minaj’s butt.

Good to know that Wikileaks is on the job.

Salon also said in other articles that today’s Internet slowdown (which affected them) that other groups (not Wikileaks) claimed responsibility.

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Shazam  Oct 21, 2016 • 11:47:56pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, read about that earlier. A bit misleading.
A “new” chain of 4-star hotels will be branded “Scion”. Trump Hotels signature 5-star establishments will retain the family brand.
Though, I do wonder if Toyota will sue about the use of “Scion”.

I know this was hours ago, but Toyota discontinued Scion this year. Scion’s cars still exist, but with the Toyota name. Except it gets dumber, since instead of calling them the Toyota iA and Toyota iM, they call them the Yaris iA and Corolla iM, despite having nothing at all to do with those Toyotas.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 21, 2016 • 11:51:24pm

re: #99 Anymouse

I would have approached such a pollster differently, rounding with a question “do you support the death penalty” or perhaps “are you a forced-birther,” or maybe “do you support comprehensive child support for single mothers through age eighteen by the government?”

Or you could try:
“Give me your kidney.”
“Excuse me?”
“Give me your kidney. I am exercising my authority over your body, and demanding you give me a kidney.”
“You can’t tell me what to do with my body!”
“You don’t say…”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 21, 2016 • 11:58:07pm

re: #126 Shazam

I know this was hours ago, but Toyota discontinued Scion this year. Scion’s cars still exist, but with the Toyota name. Except it gets dumber, since instead of calling them the Toyota iA and Toyota iM, they call them the Yaris iA and Corolla iM, despite having nothing at all to do with those Toyotas.

And they discontinued the xB altogether? That was my favorite of the “box” cars. If you’re building a car that’s an absolute rectangular box, embrace it—don’t try to get cutesy with it, or you could wind up with something as horrifying as the Kia Soul.

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Anymouse  Oct 22, 2016 • 12:00:48am

re: #127 Jebediah, RBG

Or you could try:
“Give me your kidney.”
“Excuse me?”
“Give me your kidney. I am exercising my authority over your body, and demanding you give me a kidney.”
“You can’t tell me what to do with my body!”
“You don’t say…”

The whole problem with the forced-birthers’ argument though is they don’t see a foetus as part of the woman’s body. They see the foetus as entirely separate, and will not move from that position.

In terms of critical thinking, they are lost. They will only come round if it affects them personally (which is why the overwhelming majority are conservatives).

Which reminds me, Pro-Choice Action Network (a British Columbia organisation) has a whole host of anecdotes from providers on when anti-choice people come into clinics demanding abortion services (the only moral abortion is my abortion). They will often get quite awful with personnel who are providing them the service they requested.

prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 22, 2016 • 12:03:59am

re: #129 Anymouse

The whole problem with the forced-birthers’ argument though is they don’t see a foetus as part of the woman’s body. They see the foetus as entirely separate, and will not move from that position.

Exactly. If the fetus is, as they say, a separate person from the mother, than that person has absolutely no right to the use and abuse of the mother’s organs without her consent, exactly as you may not force another to give you a kidney.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 12:09:26am

The fuck is this shit?

Yes, I’m outraged at these people having to stand in such long lines because of North Carolina’s closure of most early-voting locations, but what I’m going WTF about right now is these campaign signs just outside a polling place. How in the world can that be legal? It’s called “electioneering”, and it’s the A-number-one no-no as far as I remember.

Admittedly we haven’t had polling places for a few years now, but when we did, those signs would have been immediately uprooted and anyone caught placing them would have been arrested.

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Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2016 • 12:15:44am

re: #131 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The fuck is this shit?

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Yes, I’m outraged at these people having to stand in such long lines because of North Carolina’s closure of most early-voting locations, but what I’m going WTF about right now is these campaign signs just outside a polling place. How in the world can that be legal? It’s called “electioneering”, and it’s the A-number-one no-no as far as I remember.

Admittedly we haven’t had polling places for a few years now, but when we did, those signs would have been immediately uprooted and anyone caught placing them would have been arrested.

I’ve seen them every year I’ve been voting here in VA, so it’s not surprising that it’s legal right across the border. State law (at least here) is that it’s only legal within so many feet of the polls. So you get not only signs, but also people handing out “mock ballots” with straight tickets for one party or the other. Welcome to elections in the South.

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Anymouse  Oct 22, 2016 • 12:40:27am

re: #130 Jebediah, RBG

Exactly. If the fetus is, as they say, a separate person from the mother, than that person has absolutely no right to the use and abuse of the mother’s organs without her consent, exactly as you may not force another to give you a kidney.

But they don’t believe that. They believe that it is required for a woman to provide service to a foetus.

Ultimately, the argument is a woman is not a person. You will never get them to get past their cognitive dissonance to say that (or get them past their lying to say that).

Moreover, the forced-birthers are also anti-contraception. Here we have a “Christian-owned” pharmacy in the area. (There are only three or four pharmacies in the entire Nebraska Panhandle.) They refuse to stock any contraceptives, even condoms. They do not have to worry about someone coming in to fill an emergency contraceptive prescription, since they don’t carry them. (That pharmacy is in Sidney; fortunately the Safeway store there also has a pharmacy.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 12:42:26am

re: #131 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I also can’t help but notice that most (all?) of the people being inconvenienced in this picture are—gasp!—white. I wonder if this law can last very long after that?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 22, 2016 • 12:46:52am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 12:49:31am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

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That is a beautiful thing. Are those two guys down front tossing their cookies?

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 22, 2016 • 1:01:33am

re: #133 Anymouse

Ultimately, the argument is a woman is not a person.

Of course. Not too many, I imagine, will easily admit it.

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2016 • 1:38:40am
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Alephnaught  Oct 22, 2016 • 1:44:59am

re: #8 De Kolta Chair

And their viewers are thinking, “DOS attack? Bill Gates told me my Windows XP 95 was totally secure!”

[Edited because I think Windows 95 is funnier than Windows XP. Can I get a witness?]

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 22, 2016 • 2:05:01am

re: #2 De Kolta Chair

Can’t wait to see Kate McKinnon play Rudy Giuliani on SNL

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nosferatu

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 22, 2016 • 2:08:01am

so the ddos attack was caused by maddened appliances

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Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2016 • 2:10:10am

re: #141 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

so the ddos attack was caused by maddened appliances

The Brave Little Toaster was hijacked.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 2:28:57am

re: #136 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That is a beautiful thing. Are those two guys down front tossing their cookies?

Praying for something, maybe a bolt of lightning to strike Trump

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Anymouse  Oct 22, 2016 • 2:32:51am

If Hillary Clinton is elected President, Newt Gingrich seems to think she might appoint Supreme Court justices that would remove “Our Father” from the Lord’s Prayer and impose atheism on the whole country:

patheos.com

Gotta keep ginning up that fear … and Hillary Clinton is a Methodist.

As far as I am aware, we atheists have about zero power in government to accomplish jack, including keeping not-for-profit churches from politicking from the pulpit in violation of the law.

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:18:02am

re: #115 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

*pulls on Nerd Glasses*

…but….I’m going to suggest that the changes we’re seeing in Arrow this season - <snark>good writing, proper “show, not tell” issues </snark> - things like Oliver and his kill policy, Felicity and her (Checkov’s gun) boyfriend, are all part of the Flashpoint.

I love how Harry instantly knows, and isn’t affected. But I’m going to have to hazard a guess that the Legends are going to have to clean up his mess?

And, yes, it’s a kids superhero universe that is all CW, and it’s a time travel story with all the instant problems that come with it, it’s also a really cohesive universe, and Flashpoint seems to be reaching a lot further than I thought it would be.

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LastYearsMan  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:22:54am

re: #109 freetoken

Currently there are three time-travel series on American television: Timeless, Frequency, and Legends of Tomorrow.

What about 12 Monkeys? That hasn’t been canceled, has it?

I thought the “explanation” for those sorts of paradoxes was that if you were at the center of the timeline change, then it wouldn’t affect you as much or in the same way. Or some rationalization like that. It’s all pretty silly.

Happy we live in a world where we can watch La Jetee anytime on YouTube. That’s about the only time travel movie that I really enjoyed.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:23:44am

This looks like a good read - Strangers in their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right.

amazon.com

Any Lizards read this one yet?

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LastYearsMan  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:26:49am

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

“Resentment” is certainly the key word. So many people who are convinced the “elite” are laughing at them and don’t respect them. Seems like most of them need quality psychotherapy, not a candidate.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:37:20am

re: #145 harlequinade

*pulls on Nerd Glasses*

…but….I’m going to suggest that the changes we’re seeing in Arrow this season - <snark>good writing, proper “show, not tell” issues </snark> - things like Oliver and his kill policy, Felicity and her (Checkov’s gun) boyfriend, are all part of the Flashpoint.

I love how Harry instantly knows, and isn’t affected. But I’m going to have to hazard a guess that the Legends are going to have to clean up his mess?

And, yes, it’s a kids superhero universe that is all CW, and it’s a time travel story with all the instant problems that come with it, it’s also a really cohesive universe, and Flashpoint seems to be reaching a lot further than I thought it would be.

That’s my guess, too. Rip is MIA, and he’s likely the one to out things back in order.

Quentin’s back on the bottle. Digg has a son, not a daughter. And where did all these new vigilantes come from all of a sudden?

And soon there will be a Supergirl crossover.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:40:33am

re: #145 harlequinade

*pulls on Nerd Glasses*

…but….I’m going to suggest that the changes we’re seeing in Arrow this season - <snark>good writing, proper “show, not tell” issues </snark> - things like Oliver and his kill policy, Felicity and her (Checkov’s gun) boyfriend, are all part of the Flashpoint.

Here I also agree. I really dislike TV scripts that have the characters explicate stuff that should be obvious to the viewer. For example, why do people in police procedurals like NCIS and CSI take time to tell each other what they’re doing, when they should already know what each other is doing? TV viewers are not that dumb.

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:41:13am

re: #149 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s my guess, too. Rip is MIA, and he’s likely the one to out things back in order.

Quentin’s back on the bottle. Digg has a son, not a daughter. And where did all these new vigilantes come from all of a sudden?

And soon there will be a Supergirl crossover.

And how good is the writing this season that Supergirl is the weakest of the new bunch?

As to Rip. I hope so. Loved Darvill as Rory, loved his as Rip

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:44:46am

re: #150 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Here I also agree. I really dislike TV scripts that have the characters explicate stuff that should be obvious to the viewer. For example, why do people in police procedurals like NCIS and CSI take time to tell each other what they’re doing, when they should already know what each other is doing? TV viewers are not that dumb.

This. That I managed to get through the first episode of the MacGyver reboot was a miracle. They even explained what a Phoenix was, and why that was relevant, at the end of the first episode.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:47:24am

re: #146 LastYearsMan

What about 12 Monkeys? That hasn’t been canceled, has it?

I thought the “explanation” for those sorts of paradoxes was that if you were at the center of the timeline change, then it wouldn’t affect you as much or in the same way. Or some rationalization like that. It’s all pretty silly.

Happy we live in a world where we can watch La Jetee anytime on YouTube. That’s about the only time travel movie that I really enjoyed.

Not sure about 12 Monkeys. I’m having trouble keeping up with the shows I already follow.

The thing about time travel is the paradox itself, which (scientifically speaking) means TT is impossible, or if it is possible, it’s probably not something that should be done, ever — the Marty McFly dilemma.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:49:07am

re: #152 harlequinade

This. That I managed to get through the first episode of the MacGyver reboot was a miracle. They even explained what a Phoenix was, and why that was relevant, at the end of the first episode.

Haven’t watched it. My stepson, who was nuts about the original series, wants me to try out the reboot. Maybe later.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:52:31am

re: #151 harlequinade

And how good is the writing this season that Supergirl is the weakest of the new bunch?

As to Rip. I hope so. Loved Darvill as Rory, loved his as Rip

The first two eps of Supergirl seemed like filler, while the writers figure out what to do with Mon-El, the dude in the Kryptonian capsule. The fansites say there will be some alien menace that will affect the entire multiverse, and somehow Mon-El is involved.

Shit. I’m talking like the 12-year-old fanboy who is still trapped inside a 60-year-old body. Haha!

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:54:05am

re: #155 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

While I’m a little younger…I know exactly what you mean :D My primary reading material comes from Comixology…

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Dave In Austin  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:58:07am
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Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2016 • 3:58:46am

re: #157 Dave In Austin

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I’m sure he has “friends,” as in the people who hang around him for his fortune.

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Jayleia  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:00:46am

re: #158 Targetpractice

I’m sure he has “friends,” as in the people who hang around him for his fortune.

Assuming they can get him to pay up

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:04:29am

re: #156 harlequinade

While I’m a little younger…I know exactly what you mean :D My primary reading material comes from Comixology…

Network TV scripts have always seemed geared to 12-year-olds, even the more adult-themed shows. Having the commercial interruptions every 10-12 minutes (or less) doesn’t help, because the writers/producers feel compelled to remind viewers what happened just before the commercials, so a 42-minute script is really 30 minutes of plot+dialogue. HBO, Netflix, Amazon can put out more coherent scripts, since there are no breaks.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:10:02am

re: #29 Maxwell Not So Smart

Wikileaks because nothing says freedom of information like a KKK Grand Wizard supporting a criminal and pedophile that tries to shutdown the internet.

I gotta agree: unfounded and false accusations of pedophilia are indeed Not So Smart. Apparently the updingers feel differently.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:13:17am

re: #161 Nyet

Do you mean agree or disagree?

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BigPapa  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:20:15am

re: #141 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

so the ddos attack was caused by maddened appliances

All your admin/admin’s are belong to us.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:21:06am

re: #115 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, they’re trying to pull off a Flashpoint Paradox and not succeeding.

Flashpoint Paradox is a rather disturbing movie. Same DC comics world but different and really, really dark. I think I’ll watch it again.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:29:09am

re: #162 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Do you mean agree or disagree?

Agree in the context of the accusation and the nickname.

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Lancelot Link  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:30:58am

It’s not at all surprising that David Duke supports Assange; they’re both collaborators with ultra-antisemite Israel Shamir (as is former Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney)

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Alyosha  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:31:22am

It’d be funny if the Wikileaks DOS attack coincided with the passage of the Admiral Kuznetsov through the Channel by design.

I guess we’ll find out when they pass through the Strait of Gibraltar.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:33:51am

re: #167 Alyosha

It’d be funny if the Wikileaks DOS attack coincided with the passage of the Admiral Kuznetsov through the Channel by design.

I guess we’ll find out when they pass through the Strait of Gibraltar.

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I really wonder if all that smoke was to draw attention to the passage of the flotilla, it being 90% a publicity stunt.

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Alyosha  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:38:02am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really wonder if all that smoke was to draw attention to the passage of the flotilla, it being 90% a publicity stunt.

It’s a bit of an own goal if that was the intent. The only people it probably appealed to are coal-rollers in the States who support Trump.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:41:42am

re: #166 Lancelot Link

It’s not at all surprising that David Duke supports Assange; they’re both collaborators with ultra-antisemite Israel Shamir (as is former Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney)

Shamir is basically a fascist who is cozying up to the far left and the far right, Zavtra-style. That’s why you can see him cavorting with the Holocaust deniers and being featured at Counterpunch.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:44:52am

re: #167 Alyosha

It’d be funny if the Wikileaks DOS attack coincided with the passage of the Admiral Kuznetsov through the Channel by design.

I guess we’ll find out when they pass through the Strait of Gibraltar.

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Why does that picture make me think of Admiral Rozhestvensky’s fleet toiling halfway around the world to their doom?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 22, 2016 • 4:59:03am

And then you wake up - and this is what you see.

Which tells you that the first priority, *before coffee* is feeding the cats.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:06:43am

All the “never wrong” polling is coming out now.

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:07:24am

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s why I miss “The Good Wife.” It was grown up TV.

Did you see the Fox “Rocky Horror Picture Show”? It’s…what…40 years old now? And they language, costumes, dances were toned down! When… did we become so prudish?

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:09:59am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

which in turn was a version of Flashpoint. But, yes. A CW Flashpoint.

Also. What a world we live in, when we have enough hero shows on the same channel that we can do a TV show crossover.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:17:57am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

So, they’re trying to pull off a Flashpoint Paradox and not succeeding.

Flashpoint Paradox is a rather disturbing movie. Same DC comics world but different and really, really dark. I think I’ll watch it again.

Well, considering the TV DCU doesn’t have Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Superman*, Batman, GL, and so on, doing a complete Flashpoint Paradox would be pretty lame. Right now, Barry’s screw up is limited to the Arrowverse. But the recent ep of Legends is hinting at broader problems.

* Superman is now in the Supergirl series, which will crossover into the Arrowverse somehow. The new TV Superman is based on the Christopher Reeve version and not the darker and conflicted versions from the reboots (thank the dogs).

If you managed to sit through the Batman v. Superman subplot salad, Bruce has a vision or sees someone who appears to be The Flash warning him of something. It could have been an easter egg for a movie Flashpoint.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:19:55am

re: #174 harlequinade

That’s why I miss “The Good Wife.” It was grown up TV.

Did you see the Fox “Rocky Horror Picture Show”? It’s…what…40 years old now? And they language, costumes, dances were toned down! When… did we become so prudish?

I missed it. The old one was just fine. No one can replace Tim Curry as Frank in my book.

Fox was probably afraid of prudish oldsters seeing it and orchestrating a boycott or some other nonsense to protest the eroding of national morals.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:23:22am

BBIAB. Windows needs restarting, and a knock upside the head.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:39:19am

As for the subject of this thread, if I were an ethically challenged fatcat running a dirty tricks campaign against Assange, I might be tempted to PAY David Duke to make a statement like this.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:40:02am

re: #173 Dr. Matt

I have a deja vu from 2012.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:42:11am

Have just finished watching Luke Cage.

Such a great series. But damn, is that Misty a goddamn’ fool. “Oh, sorry, lost my phone. Oh, sorry, forgot to warn my key witness. Oops, shit happens, right?”. Fuuck.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:44:28am

OK, what should I start with now. Hmm. Game of Thrones? Nah. Maybe Stranger Things.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:46:01am

re: #181 Nyet

Have just finished watching Luke Cage.

Such a great series. But damn, is that Misty a goddamn’ fool. “Oh, sorry, lost my phone. Oh, sorry, forgot to warn my key witness. Oops, shit happens, right?”. Fuuck.

Yeah, for an ace detective, she’s a bit sloppy.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:47:32am

re: #182 Nyet

OK, what should I start with now. Hmm. Game of Thrones? Nah. Maybe Stranger Things.

GoT is a tall order with six seasons already.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:47:42am

re: #183 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I mean, yeah, the current main villain is charismatic enough to remain in the series but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t have to go to jail, like Fisk. That’s unsatisfactory, is all.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:48:39am

But anyway, this trilogy (for now) of Marvel series is a great achievement. Can’t wait for the next one.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:48:54am

re: #173 Dr. Matt

All the “never wrong” polling is coming out now.

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They’re leaving out that one Electoral Vote in Nebraska. 359-179 is my prediction, for what it’s worth—which is nothing.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:54:39am

Cottonmouth was a great villain at first… but his laugh was irritating. So I was glad he disappeared.
Diamondback is like a force of nature, it’s out there but otherwise meh.
Mariah though… can’t find fault in her.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:56:25am

re: #175 harlequinade

which in turn was a version of Flashpoint. But, yes. A CW Flashpoint.

Also. What a world we live in, when we have enough hero shows on the same channel that we can do a TV show crossover.

The last two decades will be remembered as the TV/movie superhero decade, because the big TV and movie firms bought up Marvel and DC Comics. No need to create new stuff. Just massage what the comic book writers and artists have already fleshed out. Plus, comic fans span the Baby Boomers to Millennials, so there’s a ready market for superhero shows and movies.

But, like every other Hollywood era, the superhero mania will eventually fizzle out. I;ve lived through the TV western era, beat cop procedural era, doctor show era, topical sitcom era, CSI era, lawyer show era, goofy family comedy era, and they all hit a peak, then the network TV people find something else to milk dry. Ditto the movies. Once Marvel and DC finish their story arcs sometime around 2020 (if the sequels live that long), the studios will exhaust their franchises. Either that, or they’ll keep rebooting and rebooting because they can’t find any new material.

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sagehen  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:58:13am

re: #174 harlequinade

That’s why I miss “The Good Wife.” It was grown up TV.

Did you see the Fox “Rocky Horror Picture Show”? It’s…what…40 years old now? And they language, costumes, dances were toned down! When… did we become so prudish?

We became prudish when there arose an STD that could kill you.

I feel lucky to have come of age during that brief generation when effective contraception was easily available and penicillin could cure anything. When “safe sex” meant you remembered to set the parking brake…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 5:59:08am

re: #185 Nyet

I mean, yeah, the current main villain is charismatic enough to remain in the series but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t have to go to jail, like Fisk. That’s unsatisfactory, is all.

I wasn’t happy about that, either. I suppose we’ll learn the reason for it in the next season.
Meanwhile, we’ve got Jessica Jones, Daredevil and Iron Fist coming up.

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Lancelot Link  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:04:15am

re: #189 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m still waiting for the Howard the Duck reboot.

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:04:20am

re: #190 sagehen

I see that - and I give you: Any other show with bed hopping characters.

It’s Rocky. But a rocky with tights, not stockings and suspenders.
It’s Rocky - but Rocky is in what appeared to be boxing shorts.

And I’ve seen Safe Sex RHPS’s with condoms pulled out by Rocky to make sure we understand they’re being safe, and to remove any doubt as to what’s about to happen.

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jeffreyw  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:04:21am

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Good morning!

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:05:08am

re: #184 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

GoT is a tall order with six seasons already.

Yeah, but I’ll have to start sometime…
(I was glad I never started watching Lost though.)

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:06:13am

re: #188 Nyet

I had the exact opposite to Cottonmouth and Diamond back. I loved the laugh, and could see it on paper. I felt that Diamond back was just a bit of a comic book cliche.

Wholeheartedly agree about Mariah, though. Such an amazing villain.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:06:31am

re: #190 sagehen

We became prudish when there arose an STD that could kill you.

I feel lucky to have come of age during that brief generation when effective contraception was easily available and penicillin could cure anything. When “safe sex” meant you remembered to set the parking brake…

I’m not sure HIV/AIDS is the cause of it. Americans have always been prudish. Movies can get away with a lot more than TV can. So any prudery about the film was pretty limited, AFAIK. Back then, the only way to see it was in the theaters, and later on VHS and DVD. Still a limited exposure to a subset of the population.

But take all that and put it on primetime TV, and you’re asking for trouble, because there a lot of prudes in middle America. All it takes is one upset, concerned Christian mom with a blog or a Twitter account, and all hell would break loose.

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:08:44am

re: #189 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Watching the Marvel reboot for that is a thing of wonder. Handsome Doom, black, female Iron Man, Ms Marvel, Moon Girl, Unbeatable Squirrel Girl and on and on and on

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:09:08am

re: #195 Nyet

Yeah, but I’ll have to start sometime…
(I was glad I never started watching Lost though.)

Heh. I tried. Got through half the first season when it was first out, and could not get into it at all. Then I learned how it all turned out. Big time spoiler. So I’ll skip it.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:10:12am

re: #196 harlequinade

I had the exact opposite to Cottonmouth and Diamond back. I loved the laugh, and could see it on paper. I felt that Diamond back was just a bit of a comic book cliche.

Wholeheartedly agree about Mariah, though. Such an amazing villain.

Yeah, the laugh is a subjective thing. It’s probably not even more about how he laughed (I could take it smaller doses) but when. I admit though he was great otherwise - the demeanor, the aura around him, the image, the style. The director really has an eye for such things.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:10:41am

re: #194 jeffreyw

Classic American comfort food. Tomato soup and a grilled cheese sammitch

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:10:58am

re: #199 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Heh. I tried. Got through half the first season when it was first out, and could not get into it at all. Then I learned how it all turned out. Big time spoiler. So I’ll skip it.

Yeah, I was content with the wiki entry. A big mess.

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:12:24am

re: #202 Nyet

re: #199 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

….I….kinda liked Lost…even the final series.
I understand those like me can probably fit into a Smart Car.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:14:33am

And: Luke Cage had great music choices.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:15:46am

Episode 2 of Legends of Tomorrow delved into the Justice Society of America, not the original 1940s version, but the more recent reboots of the characters. But those characters got little airtime, as the writers tried to wedge two big slugfests into one 42-minute episode. Someone new to DC comics would be totally befuddled.

When some of my Chinese students accompanied me to Batman v Superman, they were befuddled. What a mess of a movie!

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:16:02am

re: #204 Nyet

They said they had wanted Prince to do a live set at the club.

And not only music. The books that were discussed and showed on screen are enough for a Luke Cage book club.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:18:02am

re: #204 Nyet

And: Luke Cage had great music choices.

Yes indeed. And the musical acts on the club stage were the real McCoy, I think.

re: #203 harlequinade

….I….kinda liked Lost…even the final series.
I understand those like me can probably fit into a Smart Car.

Probably so. :-P

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:19:23am

re: #206 harlequinade

Brains and brawn. What’s not to like? Those few white idiots on twitter who didn’t like the show because of the mainly black cast (it’s Harlem, gee) were really racist. In fact, the show was as far from a blaxploitation flick as you can get. It was very normal.

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harlequinade  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:19:33am

Right. Shopping and dog walking, for me.

Thank you, all. I cannot tell you how much I love this place. I lurk, and read, all day, every day and these moments of conversation are such a joy.

Have great days!

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:19:55am

re: #207 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yes indeed. And the musical acts on the club stage were the real McCoy, I think.

Abso-fucking-lutely. One of the highlights.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:23:00am

There is a live pop music concert going on in the civic sports arena outside campus. The arena (which is enclosed) is about a kilometer from my flat, and I can hear everything clearly. Something tells me if I were in the audience, I’d leave partially deaf.

Here’s the act’s last.fm page.
last.fm

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:28:32am

re: #197 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not sure HIV/AIDS is the cause of it. Americans have always been prudish. Movies can get away with a lot more than TV can. So any prudery about the film was pretty limited, AFAIK. Back then, the only way to see it was in the theaters, and later on VHS and DVD. Still a limited exposure to a subset of the population.

But take all that and put it on primetime TV, and you’re asking for trouble, because there a lot of prudes in middle America. All it takes is one upset, concerned Christian mom with a blog or a Twitter account, and all hell would break loose.

Don’t forget what happened to Married, with Children—and that was almost thirty years ago. (Is that possible? Kill me now.)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:29:12am

re: #208 Nyet

Brains and brawn. What’s not to like? Those few white idiots on twitter who didn’t like the show because of the mainly black cast (it’s Harlem, gee) were really racist. In fact, the show was as far from a blaxploitation flick as you can get. It was very normal.

Imagine, African-American people as normal people! That part was the most refreshing of all. Some were criminals, but most were just folks trying to get through another day, same as anyone else.

Now, if we could have a show like that for Muslim characters, maybe people would stop seeing them as dangerous “others” out to blow shit up.

The man who plays the chess player in Pop’s barber shop has a daughter who performs in Hamilton. I thought that was cool.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:29:22am

A joke from another forum.

Trump and Clinton meet. He says “Hello, Hillary. How are you doing?” “Fine”, she replies. “Now get out of the ladies dressing room.”

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:30:25am

re: #213 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The man who plays the chess player in Pop’s barber shop has a daughter who performs in Hamilton. I thought that was cool.

My favorite secondary character :D

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:31:17am

re: #203 harlequinade

….I….kinda liked Lost…even the final series.
I understand those like me can probably fit into a Smart Car.

Hey, Cynthia Watros wound up with the fat guy—made some of us feel good for a few minutes.

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Jayleia  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:32:32am

re: #205 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

When some of my Chinese students accompanied me to Batman v Superman, they were befuddled. What a mess of a movie!

I like what they tried to do, but they should have been at least two movies.

First, getting Doomsday out of the way as a “big bad” first was smart. Because he’s had decades of stories since then…and not a damn useful thing has happened with that character. But people would eventually want to see a Death of Superman movie with Doomsday…and they knew there wasn’t really anything to put IN a pure Death of Superman movie except the biggest brawl ever. This gave a reasonable origin for the cinematic Doomsday.

Batman vs. Superman should have been one movie separate from Death of Superman/Dawn of Justice, and goddammit I hate the way they ended that fight. But that should have been one movie on its own.

I actually liked Eisenberg as Luthor, and the way he acted…when you know the things he seems to know…acting totally crazy MIGHT be the only sane thing.

And yes, I like pineapple on pizza.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:33:10am

re: #212 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Don’t forget what happened to Married, with Children—and that was almost thirty years ago. (Is that possible? Kill me now.)

And Murphy fucking Brown. Quayle made a big stink about it — a TV show!

MwC broke the mold of TV families being goofy but basically harmless. MwC was a goofy, dysfunctional family, and it was funny because it hit home with a lot of real families. I never really cared for it, but in some ways it was as revolutionary as All in the Family.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:40:47am

re: #7 Dragonomics

A joyous convergence of libertarians, anarchists and white supremacists! What more could I want for a terrifically terrifying Halloween?

The thin veil seperating those three groups has just vanished the past few years. What we have now is primarily a global anti-US establishment anarchy comprised of overt narcissists. We have left behind the dominance of the sovereign nation state and entered the Age of the Narcissist, where accountability is zero.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:44:00am

re: #217 Jayleia

I like what they tried to do, but they should have been at least two movies.

First, getting Doomsday out of the way as a “big bad” first was smart. Because he’s had decades of stories since then…and not a damn useful thing has happened with that character. But people would eventually want to see a Death of Superman movie with Doomsday…and they knew there wasn’t really anything to put IN a pure Death of Superman movie except the biggest brawl ever. This gave a reasonable origin for the cinematic Doomsday.

Batman vs. Superman should have been one movie separate from Death of Superman/Dawn of Justice, and goddammit I hate the way they ended that fight. But that should have been one movie on its own.

I actually liked Eisenberg as Luthor, and the way he acted…when you know the things he seems to know…acting totally crazy MIGHT be the only sane thing.

And yes, I like pineapple on pizza.

Yeah, definitely it would have been better as two movies, or even three, because the appearance of Diana Prince was completely random, as if someone suddenly realized the movie was supposed to set up the Wonder Woman movie in 2017. Shit! Where are we gonna put her?

Action film producers and directors seem to have this idea that the usual buildup-climax-denouement story structure is insufficient for a blockbuster. Instead, the film has to be buildup1-buildup2-climax1-climax2- denouement-set up for next movie. And that’s what BvS was: Batman and Superman square off — your mom’s name is Martha, too? Buddy! — Now let’s defeat this new menace. Hey, who’s that chick? —Chick beats the baddy almost without Batman and Superman’s help. — Oh shit, Superman is dead! — Now let’s find these other guys and form like a team, y’know? — The ground vibrates around Superman’s tomb. Plus the aftercredits teaser.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2016 • 6:48:19am

re: #167 Alyosha

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:00:20am

This concert music is getting on my last nerves! Loud, and overproduced. Maybe it’ll end soon

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:02:11am

re: #122 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

China is still asserting it has wide territorial rights over the South China Sea, despite international courts saying it doesn’t.

Chinese warships warn ‘provocative’ US destroyer near contested islands in South China Sea
scmp.com

The US Navy periodically sails through the area to assert international rights of passage, and the Chinese navy and foreign ministry generally respond with warnings and demands to leave the area. Rinse, lather, repeat.

I would be worried about Trump deciding we needed to “return a show of force” because just sailing through is not enough of a show.

Also, when you wonder what benefit our military is providing to the world, the Navy is playing Coast Guard to the world. We’re enforcing UN and international court rules.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:03:15am

re: #221 FormerDirtDart

Well now we know what happened to those missing critics of Putin. Cremated and buried at sea.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:06:49am

So I’m seeing time and again that conservative logic is that you can’t talk about income inequality while being rich. So fucking stupid.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:09:33am

re: #218 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And Murphy fucking Brown. Quayle made a big stink about it — a TV show!

MwC broke the mold of TV families being goofy but basically harmless. MwC was a goofy, dysfunctional family, and it was funny because it hit home with a lot of real families. I never really cared for it, but in some ways it was as revolutionary as All in the Family.

What amazes me about people who say we’ve gone all soft and PC is they ignore that a lot of things in the past were controversial too. Honestly for all the talk about how easily offended we are today, I think quite the opposite is true. Being sensitive to people sensibilities is a good thing though I think. Of course, the idiot right wingers who bitch about PC have a completely different tune when it’s them that are the ones being lampooned.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:12:27am

re: #223 Belafon

I would be worried about Trump deciding we needed to “return a show of force” because just sailing through is not enough of a show.

Also, when you wonder what benefit our military is providing to the world, the Navy is playing Coast Guard to the world. We’re enforcing UN and international court rules.

Russia and China want Trump to win, because they think they can manipulate him. I doubt anyone can. The dislike Hillary because she’s tough as nails, and is not going to give either one of them quarter if they try any expansionist shit.

Trump would probably authorize the Navy to fire upon a Chinese naval vessel, or shoot across its bow, and then all hell would break loose. Hillary would take diplomatic measures, backed up by our superior military forces.

Duterte, as I said before, is an idiot to trust China. He’s essentially asking China to make The Philippines a client state, which even Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam are trying to avoid becoming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:13:23am

I’m old enough to remember the freakout over Lucy Ricardo being pregnant.

And the whole stupid thing about Rob and Laura Petrie’s twin beds (complete with nightstand and lamp separating the two beds!)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:15:00am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m old enough to remember the freakout over Lucy Ricardo being pregnant.

And the whole stupid thing about Rob and Laura Petrie’s twin beds (complete with nightstand and lamp separating the two beds!)

Psycho, a movie that came out in my parents lifetime broke ground by showing gasp a flushing toilet. the one thing people weren’t reluctant about in the past was using racist language and the decline of that is a good thing. My Dad was talking about how he could remember adults using the n-word when he was a kid and how glad he is that for the most part is a thing of the past.

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BigPapa  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:16:06am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

So I’m seeing time and again that conservative logic is that you can’t talk about income inequality while being rich. So fucking stupid.

You believe in climate change? Do you drive a car or use plastic? Harumph!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:17:58am

re: #230 BigPapa

You believe in climate change? Do you drive a car or use plastic? Harumph!

You criticize practices of meat packing and you eat meat? Harumph!

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freetoken  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:20:05am

NYT runs an “analysis” column that, by some reckoning, is pro-Drumpfskind in trade policy:

With Europe-Canada Deal Near Collapse, Globalization’s Latest Chapter Is History

[…]

It is now beyond argument that liberalized trade between wealthy countries and developing countries exposes vulnerable workers to substantial perils. When cheaper imports arrive from low-wage countries, people making more expensive domestic goods can find themselves looking for new jobs.

When the North American Free Trade Agreement took effect in the mid-1990s, enabling goods to flow across Canada, Mexico and the United States with minimal impediments, factory workers in American industrial communities became vulnerable to job losses as production flowed south. When China entered the World Trade Organization in 2001, gaining the right to export its wares around the globe, factory workers in every industrial nation were rendered vulnerable.

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Sure, the authors point out that economists will account for benefits also. But when your story is “globalization is dead”, it’s hard to imagine that Drumpfskind, if he were a competent campaigner, could overlook this pronouncement in the NYT.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:20:41am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

You criticize X and you live. Harrumph!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:20:46am

They were Carlin’s seven words you can’t say on television not Carlin’s seven words you can say and no one cares because we’re not prudish unlike those pussies in 2016. The underlining thing about the right and political correctness though is a hypocrisy. They can call us “libtards”, liken us to Stalin since we see the nuances of socialism, etc but if Hillary calls them deplorable or one of her adis makes an sobervations about conservative Catholics, then it’s what about our feelings!

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freetoken  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:23:13am

If there are historians a thousand years in the future, they may record that it was a cow in Wallonia that did in the 21st century.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:23:45am

re: #233 Nyet

You criticize X and you live. Harrumph!

I mean it’s just so infantile. Russell Brand and I realize he’s a little bit nutty on some stuff but he made a very good observation about this. When you’re poor and talk about income inequality, they tell you to stop complaining and make something of yourself. But if you become rich and point out poverty, they call you a limousine liberal or in Russell’s UK, a champagne socialist. Another one I like is “When I fed the poor, they called me a saint, but when I asked why are they poor, they called me a Communist.”

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:25:43am

You know, David French may be a right-wing dink who lacks introspection to understand that he was a part of the Trumpification process, along with the NR, but I still feel sympathy for him. And I do hope his experience will lead to further insight.

nationalreview.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:25:53am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

What amazes me about people who say we’ve gone all soft and PC is they ignore that a lot of things in the past were controversial too. Honestly for all the talk about how easily offended we are today, I think quite the opposite is true. Being sensitive to people sensibilities is a good thing though I think. Of course, the idiot right wingers who bitch about PC have a completely different tune when it’s them that are the ones being lampooned.

I didn’t especially like Married, With Children, so I didn’t watch it. Problem solved. But some people figure if they’re offended, no one else can ever watch that show again.

MwC was not politically correct for the time. But, despite all the acrimony and carping among the Bundys, there was an element of love there. Al and Peg didn’t get divorced. They defended their kids. The kids defended each other. In a twisted kind of way, they were the “ideal family” — mom, dad, two kids. They just weren’t Ozzie and Harriet.

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stpaulbear  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:30:38am

Well my cat Halley has had a rough morning. I’m doing laundry so I’d left the door to the basement open for a couple minutes, and Halley found the sticky mouse trap just beyond the door. I heard her howling and when I came upstairs I found her with both front feet firmly planted on the trap. Luckily she didn’t get her face stuck on it too.

It took some firm pulling and some extreme unhappiness from Halley, but I got her feet off the trap and, fortunately, all of the sticky stuff stayed with the trap and not on her feet.

She hid for a while, but I’ve seen her moving around since then and everything appears to be normal with her. Poor girl.

I know that sticky traps are inhumane, but I don’t want to use poison because I don’t want to risk Halley eating a poisoned mouse. One of the main routes is under the stove so I need something flat - a regular spring trap won’t fit. If I find a live mouse in the sticky trap, I put it out of its misery asap. I won’t add details…

brave miss Halley
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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:30:43am

re: #238 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I didn’t especially like Married, With Children, so I didn’t watch it. Problem solved. But some people figure if they’re offended, no one else can ever watch that show again.

MwC was not politically correct for the time. But, despite all the acrimony and carping among the Bundys, there was an element of love there. Al and Peg didn’t get divorced. They defended their kids. The kids defended each other. In a twisted kind of way, they were the “ideal family” — mom, dad, two kids. They just weren’t Ozzie and Harriet.

I think Americans related to families like the Bundys and later the Simpsons because more American families are like that than the ideal 50’s family like Ozzie/Harriet or the Cleavers or even the Brady’s later even though Mike or Carol came from a divorce. I think the reason for that is they showed that families have real conflicts but there’s also real love too in a way that wasn’t contrived. I haven’t watched any of it yet but I think that’s part of the appeal of Modern Family as well. Real families fight. We curse at each other. But at the end of the day, we laugh and realize we’re a family.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:31:14am

This would make a great sociology paper by the way. The American family in television throughout the years and the American people’s response to them.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:35:01am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m old enough to remember the freakout over Lucy Ricardo being pregnant.

And the whole stupid thing about Rob and Laura Petrie’s twin beds (complete with nightstand and lamp separating the two beds!)

A history of TV married couples and their sleeping arrangements. tvacres.com

It also covers the great navel controversy in I Dream of Jeannie and Gilligan’s Island.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:37:55am

re: #242 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

A history of TV married couples and their sleeping arrangements. tvacres.com

It also covers the great navel controversy in I Dream of Jeannie and Gilligan’s Island.

And the famous Farrah Fawcett poster that adorned countless young men’s rooms, I remember seeing a version of it in my mom’s National Enquirer with the nipples airbrushed over.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:44:42am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

This would make a great sociology paper by the way. The American family in television throughout the years and the American people’s response to them.

I suspect it’s been done already. If not, it should be a book. I think TV has explored almost every possible kind of parenting situation: single mom, single dad, mom&dad, blended families, same-sex parents, housemates raising kids together, adopted kids, extended families. I think seeing these different kinds of families, whether serious or played for laughs, normalizes them. That seems to upset some people fixated on some imaginary ideal of mom & dad married forever + obedient kids who never get in real trouble.

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Jay C  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:44:49am

re: #237 Nyet

You know, David French may be a right-wing dink who lacks introspection to understand that he was a part of the Trumpification process, along with the NR, but I still feel sympathy for him. And I do hope his experience will live to further insight.

nationalreview.com

“Insight”? When applied to conservatives of the National Review ilk, that term usually only refers to One Of Them lecturing liberals about their superior values/philosophy/ideology: in the sense of an “introspective examination” it’s seldom displayed.

But French’s experience brings up another point: I’ve been curious why the Clinton campaign/Democrats in general haven’t pushed a theme in the media which I think is one of the most worrying trends the 2016 election has brought to the fore: the mainstreaming of the “alt-right”: blatant racists, general bigots and neo-Nazis for the most part. That a national Presidential campaign (Trump’s) can rely on this disgusting fringe for as much support as it does without being called on it (or called to disavow it) is astonishing. But outside of some whiny bitching about Mrs. Clinton’s use of the term “deplorable”, the issue of a national GOP candidate ignoring these outpourings of vile antisemitism by his “supporters” seems to have flown entirely under the radar.

Maybe my thoughts are colored by the time I spend reading stuff online (and mainly here at LGF!) - I’m sure there are vast swatches of the population out there who have never even heard of the term “alt-right” - IJSTM that a major-party Presidential candidate objectively empowering domestic Nazis ought to be a bigger story than it has been.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:46:50am

re: #244 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I suspect it’s been done already. If not, it should be a book. I think TV has explored almost every possible kind of parenting situation: single mom, single dad, mom&dad, blended families, same-sex parents, housemates raising kids together, adopted kids, extended families. I think seeing these different kinds of families, whether serious or played for laughs, normalizes them. That seems to upset some people fixated on some imaginary ideal of mom & dad married forever + obedient kids who never get in real trouble.

Yeah a book would be better than a paper. You’re right. TV has explored lots of different situations.

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Jenner7  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:48:23am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:49:53am

re: #25 teleskiguy

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Hippo grapes

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freetoken  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:50:42am

re: #245 Jay C

… But outside of some whiny bitching about Mrs. Clinton’s use of the term “deplorable”, the issue of a national GOP candidate ignoring these outpourings of vile antisemitism by his “supporters” seems to have flown entirely under the radar….

In Frum’s latest column in The Atlantic, in which he works real hard to prove he’s worth the money they are paying him, does indeed mention this:

A Guide for Undecided Republicans⁠⁠⁠

[…]

The Intelligent Conservative’s Case for Clinton

[…]

There’s an even bigger question that worries you more. Twenty-first century America seems to you a society under pressure. Crazy ideas that never got a hearing before are suddenly being talked about now. An avowed socialist finished second in the Democratic primaries. The Republican nominee keeps company with racists, anti-Semites, conspiracy nuts, and foreign agents. Mass shootings and race riots at home; Russian and Chinese aggression abroad—and where are America’s leaders? The politicians repeat “our diversity is our greatest strength.” They wouldn’t feel the need to say it so often if it were true. The bonds of connection between Americans are fraying in ominous ways—and Donald Trump makes a habit of identifying every weak point and slashing at it until it snaps. You’ve been more successful than most people, which means you have more to lose if things go wrong. As much as you care about lowering taxes and rationalizing regulation, you also care about holding the country together against the pressures tugging every which way.

[…]

Of course, Frum buries this observation under a lot of cover for his “intelligent conservative” friends.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:51:25am

re: #247 Jenner7

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Good fucking grief asshole, stick your tongue in the NRA’s fat ass some more will ya.

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freetoken  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:53:36am

The crypto-racists in my Facebook wall pretty much avoid the issue outright. It’s all hidden under layers of wingnut-speak.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:54:10am

re: #249 freetoken

In Frum’s latest column in The Atlantic, in which he works real hard to prove he’s worth the money they are paying him, does indeed mention this:

A Guide for Undecided Republicans⁠⁠⁠

Of course, Frum buries this observation under a lot of cover for his “intelligent conservative” friends.

The problem with conservatives like Frum is they don’t want to admit is that their ideology is a big part of why Trump was allowed to rise in the first place. And the “sensible Republicans” like McCain are already threatening to block any nominee to the Supreme Court that Clinton presents. I honestly find the so called GOP moderates more in contempt than the true believers. The true believers are assholes no doubt but I think they really believe what they’re doing. McCain meanwhile and those like him are cynical assholes who exploit their base to maintain their own grip of power.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:54:16am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:55:11am

re: #251 freetoken

The crypto-racists in my Facebook wall pretty much avoid the issue outright. It’s all hidden under layers of wingnut-speak.

My wingnut pal is whining about how Elizabeth Warren is a hypocrite for calling Trump out for the rigged claim since she’s used the word rigged to talk about our system. The difference? Warren wasn’t talking about rigged elections. She was talking about economics. Big difference.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:56:29am

re: #253 Dr. Matt

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Shit is nothing if not predictable. These people play on gun owners fears and encourage gun hoarding. These people bitch about the government taking their tax dollars. Maybe just maybe stop falling for NRA and gun show lies that the Democratic Party is out to get your precious guns and actually not buy a gun every time you’re falsely told that 2nd AMENDMENT UNDER ATTACK.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:57:50am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Lather.Rinse.Repeat. Every four years the NRA and the gun fuckers ramp up the fear. Sadly, the gullible base keeps falling for it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 7:59:02am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the famous Farrah Fawcett poster that adorned countless young men’s rooms, I remember seeing a version of it in my mom’s National Enquirer with the nipples airbrushed over.

You know, I was watching an old Fred and Ginger movie — I think it was Swing Time — and there is a scene where Ginger’s nipples were clearly poking her evening gown. That was in 1936 and no one seemed concerned. This was post-Hayes Code.

The prudery of the 1960s and ’70s was a reaction to the sexual revolution, I figure. By that time, Playboy had become acceptable, and bluenoses probably feared first you let the nipples poke out, and pretty soon the top comes off, and civilization crumbles as we know it!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:00:47am

re: #246 HappyWarrior

Yeah a book would be better than a paper. You’re right. TV has explored lots of different situations.

Even for a very brief time, a super-powered family, a la The Incredibles. It was lame, though.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:01:13am

re: #256 Dr. Matt

Lather.Rinse.Repeat. Every four years the NRA and the gun fuckers ramp up the fear. Sadly, the gullible base keeps falling for it.

Yep. It’s a constant unfortunately. Honestly, I wished that Clinton had called out Trump on his past with guns to show the gun nuts how two faced he really is on the issue. I don’t care if they vote for Hillary or not personally but I do want them to at least have the thought that Trump is using them.

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Tigger2  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:01:49am

re: #256 Dr. Matt

Lather.Rinse.Repeat. Every four years the NRA and the gun fuckers ramp up the fear. Sadly, the gullible base keeps falling for it.

I guess some people are just incapable of learning.

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Jay C  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:02:52am

re: #249 freetoken

In Frum’s latest column in The Atlantic, in which he works real hard to prove he’s worth the money they are paying him

Well, I read through Frum’s piece, and on that basis, The Atlantic ought to be asking for a refund. Yes, he does bring up the “deplorables”, but only in passing, most of the article is a battalion-strength deployment of cliches, marched by in column-of-fours. Though his fundamental point (that “indecision” problem) IS quite valid.

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freetoken  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:03:47am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the famous Farrah Fawcett poster that adorned countless young men’s rooms, I remember seeing a version of it in my mom’s National Enquirer with the nipples airbrushed over.

A:
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B:
Image: Farrah03.jpg

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:04:39am

re: #260 Tigger2

I guess some people are just incapable of learning.

I think they almost like having Wayne The Dick con them. I go out of my way to avoid talking politics with my one wingnut friend since we don’t see each other that often but I feel like asking him “Dude if Obama’s so anti 2nd amendment, why has your personal arsenal increased dramatically during his Presidency?” I even pointed out to him that Obama expanded the 2nd amendment in a way to allow shooting at national parks. It’s honestly sad in a way. I get that these people value their 2nd amendment rights and I understand that having a grandfather who was a firearms owner but the gun lobby cares not about individual rights but about keeping gun owners angry at the wrong people and scared of strangers. Wayne LaPierre doesn’t have to worry about crime where he lives. The fucker’s loaded due to all the money he gets from gullible gun nuts.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:06:12am

re: #247 Jenner7

Two incredibly stupid proposals: guns floating around schools and military folks packing heat at all times, even off duty. Schools and bases are two common places for tempers to flare and things to get out of hand if angry or scared people have guns.

I would not teach in a school that allowed staff and students to carry firearms. I’d like to maximize my chances of dying at a ripe old age, tyvm.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:08:45am

The problem though is the gun lobby has convinced many gun owners that the 2nd shouldn’t have any regulation to it. Stores can’t forbid them nor can schools. Background checks violate their rights. Honestly, I know some lizards who own guns may disagree with me here but we have to look at the 2nd as being written in an era where the most powerful weapons were muskets and when we lived in a much less densely populated country that was much more rural. I’m not saying that we abolish the 2nd. I am saying matters involving the 2nd should have 21st century eyes on them. And I guess that’s the flaw of the conservative view of the Constitution in the first place.

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Tigger2  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:14:07am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

I think they almost like having Wayne The Dick con them. I go out of my way to avoid talking politics with my one wingnut friend since we don’t see each other that often but I feel like asking him “Dude if Obama’s so anti 2nd amendment, why has your personal arsenal increased dramatically during his Presidency?” I even pointed out to him that Obama expanded the 2nd amendment in a way to allow shooting at national parks. It’s honestly sad in a way. I get that these people value their 2nd amendment rights and I understand that having a grandfather who was a firearms owner but the gun lobby cares not about individual rights but about keeping gun owners angry at the wrong people and scared of strangers. Wayne LaPierre doesn’t have to worry about crime where he lives. The fucker’s loaded due to all the money he gets from gullible gun nuts.

I have a friend that is amazed I’m a Dem because I have owned guns for 54 years, I guess him and a lot of gun nuts think just because you own a gun you must automatically be a republican.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:15:39am

re: #266 Tigger2

I have a friend that is amazed I’m a Dem because I have owned guns for 54 years, I guess him and a lot of gun nuts think just because you own a gun you must automatically be a republican.

My grandfather who I mentioned was a Democrat from birth till the day he died.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:23:27am

re: #266 Tigger2

I have a friend that is amazed I’m a Dem because I have owned guns for 54 years, I guess him and a lot of gun nuts think just because you own a gun you must automatically be a republican.

They also assume all military people are Republicans, because liberals and Dems are all pacifists. Yet, they support people like Trump and Romney, who avoided service. Go figure.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:25:19am

7 Minutes - worth the watch

Martha and Sara | Hillary Clinton

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:26:22am

re: #257 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You know, I was watching an old Fred and Ginger movie — I think it was Swing Time — and there is a scene where Ginger’s nipples were clearly poking her evening gown. That was in 1936 and no one seemed concerned. This was post-Hayes Code.

The prudery of the 1960s and ’70s was a reaction to the sexual revolution, I figure. By that time, Playboy had become acceptable, and bluenoses probably feared first you let the nipples poke out, and pretty soon the top comes off, and civilization crumbles as we know it!

In Europe you occasionally even see nipples in advertising if it is a body-care product. But that would not be possible in America: if they allowed it for some products, you would soon see nipples being used to sell everything from toothpaste to cars “Just to show you the smooth ride in the Chrysler LeBaron, look at Mandy’s naked breasts not bounce while we drive down this potholed road…”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:28:24am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Europe you occasionally even see nipples in advertising if it is a body-care product. But that would not be possible in America: if they allowed it for some products, you would soon see nipples being used to sell everything from toothpaste to cars “Just to show you the smooth ride in the Chrysler LeBaron, look at Mandy’s naked breasts not bounce while we drive down this potholed road…”

Beats a mohel doing a circumcision in the back seat, like that one SNL commercial.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:34:18am

re: #268 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They also assume all military people are Republicans, because liberals and Dems are all pacifists. Yet, they support people like Trump and Romney, who avoided service. Go figure.

Nixon was a desk jockey in the Navy and George McGovern was a bomber pilot—probably the most dangerous branch of (US) service in WWII.

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freetoken  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:34:42am

Drumpfskind’s foot soldiers take to the courts:

Pennsylvania Republicans sue to allow poll watchers to cross county lines

Apparently they are whining about not finding enough Republicans in Philadelphia county to be poll watchers there, and PA law forbids watchers from crossing county lines.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:34:57am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Europe you occasionally even see nipples in advertising if it is a body-care product. But that would not be possible in America: if they allowed it for some products, you would soon see nipples being used to sell everything from toothpaste to cars “Just to show you the smooth ride in the Chrysler LeBaron, look at Mandy’s naked breasts not bounce while we drive down this potholed road…”

Marlo Thomas apparently went braless in That Girl, and later there was Baywatch, so boob movement was already being tested in the ’70s and ’80s. Just not in commercials.

(AFAIK)

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stpaulbear  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:37:26am

Maybe this was posted earlier but it’s a great takedown of D’Souza’s slimey tweet about Obama’s parents. Bonus points for the link to rogerebert.com’s brutal review of “Hillary’s America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party”. Via JoeMyGod.

Dinesh D’Souza, adulterous felon and disgraced academic, really embarrassed himself this time

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:38:00am

re: #272 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Nixon was a desk jockey in the Navy and George McGovern was a bomber pilot—probably the most dangerous branch of (US) service in WWII.

Don’t forget Carter in the submarine service. Kennedy in the Navy.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:43:42am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

I think they almost like having Wayne The Dick con them. I go out of my way to avoid talking politics with my one wingnut friend since we don’t see each other that often but I feel like asking him “Dude if Obama’s so anti 2nd amendment, why has your personal arsenal increased dramatically during his Presidency?” I even pointed out to him that Obama expanded the 2nd amendment in a way to allow shooting at national parks. It’s honestly sad in a way. I get that these people value their 2nd amendment rights and I understand that having a grandfather who was a firearms owner but the gun lobby cares not about individual rights but about keeping gun owners angry at the wrong people and scared of strangers. Wayne LaPierre doesn’t have to worry about crime where he lives. The fucker’s loaded due to all the money he gets from gullible gun nuts.

Retail sales for preppers, guns, ammo and reloading supplies, seeds, gold coins are all going to do much better with an HRC win. Continues the ODS weapons boom. At some point market saturation will heck maybe is happening. Gold-when it’s high they say it’s going up more so buy, when it’s down they say buy while its cheap. Kinda Trump in a nutshell, no?

EDIT-What separates a gun collector from nut? The one who wants to recognize the truth instead of the bullshit about the President, gun control and crime.

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freetoken  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:46:09am

re: #277 Jenner7

“He’s afraid of browness” ….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:48:04am

re: #275 stpaulbear

Maybe this was posted earlier but it’s a great takedown of D’Souza’s slimey tweet about Obama’s parents. Bonus points for the link to rogerebert.com’s brutal review of “Hillary’s America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party”. Via JoeMyGod.

Dinesh D’Souza, adulterous felon and disgraced academic, really embarrassed himself this time

Good piece and she speaks with a lot of personal on the abandoned parent issue. Dinesh is a pathetic dick.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:48:48am

So this is cool. A color-coded map of the river basins of the USA.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:50:02am

re: #281 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You can really see how the Mississippi-Ohio river complex dominates the center of the country. That’s one huge drainage ditch.

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KingKenrod  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:52:07am

D’Souza deleted that awful tweet when he started getting shit about it. Then he re-sent it later, and started building off it with stuff like this.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:52:39am

re: #282 thedopefishlives

You can really see how the Mississippi-Ohio river complex dominates the center of the country. That’s one huge drainage ditch.

Yup. Also the Colorado and the St. Lawrence.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:52:42am

re: #281 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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Stanley Sea  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:57:32am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:57:49am

re: #278 Great White Snark

Retail sales for preppers, guns, ammo and reloading supplies, seeds, gold coins are all going to do much better with an HRC win. Continues the ODS weapons boom. At some point market saturation will heck maybe is happening. Gold-when it’s high they say it’s going up more so buy, when it’s down they say buy while its cheap. Kinda Trump in a nutshell, no?

EDIT-What separates a gun collector from nut? The one who wants to recognize the truth instead of the bullshit about the President, gun control and crime.

What I think separates a gun collector from a nut is that the former is practical minded in that they don’t see things like background checks as an attack on their rights which is why I would never call gun owners like yourself nuts. Gun sales are going to go up in a Clinton presidency. Honestly, I just want a society where people feel less paranoid and I think the gun lobby wants people paranoid.

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freetoken  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:57:58am

In case you missed it, yesterday’s blog post by Richard Branson informs us that the Al Smith dinner is just typical of Drumpfskind:

Meeting Donald Trump

[…]

Some years ago, Mr Trump invited me to lunch for a one-to-one meeting at his apartment in Manhattan. We had not met before and I accepted. Even before the starters arrived he began telling me about how he had asked a number of people for help after his latest bankruptcy and how five of them were unwilling to help. He told me he was going to spend the rest of his life destroying these five people.

[…]

I left the lunch feeling disturbed and saddened by what I’d heard. There are a lot of frightening things about this election; not least that policy has been pushed so far down the agenda. What concerns me most, based upon my personal experiences with Donald Trump, is his vindictive streak, which could be so dangerous if he got into the White House. For somebody who is running to be the leader of the free world to be so wrapped up in himself, rather than concerned with global issues, is very worrying.

[…]

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Jenner7  Oct 22, 2016 • 8:59:37am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:00:50am

re: #283 KingKenrod

D’Souza deleted that awful tweet when he started getting shit about it. Then he re-sent it later, and started building off it with stuff like this.

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Dinesh really is a terrible person. It’s very easy to see why him and Ann Coulter were once an item. As the author of that Salon piece said, this is a man who writes a book about the virtues of Christianity and then mocks the President for having been abandonded by his father. You know what Dinesh, President Obama may not have known his own father that well but he’s been an excellent father to his own daughters. As someone who knows someone very dear to my heart who had that happen to them, fuck you and don’t push your fake piety bullshit on us when you’re a convicted crook who has so much rage in them that they have to go after something that happened to them when they were a small child. Oh and by the way your documentaries fucking suck. Can’t wait for Tim Kaine’s America or Julian Castro’s or Cory Booker’s or Elizabeth Warren’s or whatever lame hit piece you choose to do on them.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:01:23am

Tomorrow night.

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stpaulbear  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:02:56am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

What I think separates a gun collector from a nut is that the former is practical minded in that they don’t see things like background checks as an attack on their rights which is why I would never call gun owners like yourself nuts. Gun ownership is going to go up in a Clinton presidency. Honestly, I just want a society where people feel less paranoid and I think the gun lobby wants people paranoid.

I bet that gun ownership doesn’t really go up but gun sales will. Arsenals will get bigger. They’ll be selling more guns to the same people that were sure that Obama was going to take them away.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:03:19am

re: #289 Jenner7

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But yet blah people should shut up about slavery and Jim Crow according to people like Rudy. I saw a really really really stupid from Steve Crowder today (my one wingnut friend loves him), it blamed Africans for the slave trade and gave white Americans a big tap on the back for ending it. Yeah nevermind the fact that white Southerners started a brutal Civil War that killed more American than any other war to preserve slavery but yay white people. I’m not saying that white people are bad. I’m saying that this shit is lame and ignores that for every William Lloyd Garrison who supported abolishing slavery, there were those like John C. Calhoun or those who were indifferent to slavery.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:03:42am

re: #292 stpaulbear

I bet that gun ownership doesn’t really go up but gun sales will. Arsenals will get bigger. They’ll be selling more guns to the same people that were sure that Obama was going to take them away.

Yes, sales not ownership. Mea cupla, thanks man.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:05:32am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

What I think separates a gun collector from a nut is that the former is practical minded in that they don’t see things like background checks as an attack on their rights which is why I would never call gun owners like yourself nuts. Gun ownership is going to go up in a Clinton presidency. Honestly, I just want a society where people feel less paranoid and I think the gun lobby wants people paranoid.

Thanks, it is going up. And it will without interference from Pres Clinton. I hope we get the universal b/g checks and at that time dispense with the idea of a direct connection (no fly=no buy) to the no fly list. Maybe think better b/g checks and following up on those convicted that lost the right. Felony gang crime? Say bye to the hardware.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:07:27am

re: #295 Great White Snark

Thanks, it is going up. And it will without interference from Pres Clinton. I hope we get the universal b/g checks and at that time dispense with the idea of a direct connection (no fly=no buy) to the no fly list. Maybe think better b/g checks and following up on those convicted that lost the right. Felony gang crime? Say bye to the hardware.

Yeah I’m on bored with your idea of fixing the no fly list. But yeah definitely if you have a violent felony especially one involving the use of a gun, you shouldn’t be able to buy a gun. I have no illusions. We’re not going to solve this overnight but I think we can through responsible means reduce gun violence in this country and I think that’s something everyone regardless of how we may feel about guns should strive for.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:09:58am

Fact is and I’m not trying to MBF here. Not every gun owner is armed because he/she fears the government will turn into Nazi Germany 2.0 and not every gun control proponent wants to make gun ownership a felony. I think the key to this issue will be talking forcefully but also being willing to listen too.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:13:01am

for real?

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Tigger2  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:13:44am

re: #283 KingKenrod

D’Souza deleted that awful tweet when he started getting shit about it. Then he re-sent it later, and started building off it with stuff like this.

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sagehen  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:13:53am

re: #272 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Nixon was a desk jockey in the Navy and George McGovern was a bomber pilot—probably the most dangerous branch of (US) service in WWII.

Gotta stick up for Nixon on this one… he was a Quaker.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:16:32am

Trump policy media event now is nothing more than a low key (Sad!) campaign event.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:17:09am

re: #300 sagehen

Gotta stick up for Nixon on this one… he was a Quaker.

That’s true but he was far from a dove in his foreign policy. That said, at least he served unlike Mitt “I demonstrated in favor of the draft and then went to France” Romney and Trump. I know the mission work is a big deal for the LDS but you know what, if Mitt really believed in the draft and the cause of Vietnam, he should have put that aside and signed up. My grandfather served with a lot of LDS guys who weren’t nearly as connected as Mitt was. Nixon is interesting though. Very interesting figure.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:18:50am

So apparently Trump’s Closing Argument is a lot like his opening argument and all the rest of the campaign.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:19:04am

They’re eating themselves.

finance.yahoo.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:20:42am

re: #304 Nyet

They’re eating themselves.

finance.yahoo.com

I’ll have some of that tea Hillary was drinking at the Smith dinner.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:20:52am

Typical Trump

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:22:54am

re: #306 Stanley Sea

Typical Trump

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Shit, if Nixon were here, he’d tell him to stop being such a petty sob. Great job GOP.

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wrenchwench  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:22:55am

re: #304 Nyet

They’re eating themselves.

finance.yahoo.com

Many critics early in the campaign charged the MSNBC hosts of being soft on Trump

It’s the new McCarthyism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:23:13am

Festivus comes early this year.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:23:28am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

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Stanley Sea  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:23:29am
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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:24:33am

“Term limits”

“Freeze in federal employee hiring-attrition.”

“For every new regulation put in place, two regulations must go away.”

Oy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:25:00am
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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:25:38am

re: #309 Blind Frog Belly White

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Festivus comes early this year.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:26:13am

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:26:15am

re: #312 MsJ

“Term limits”

“Freeze in federal employee hiring-attrition.”

“For every new regulation put in place, two regulations must go away.”

Oy.

I can tell you as someone who has applied for the feds many a time that it’s already tough to get a federal job. Trump’s just throwing every bit of shit he has left and hoping it will stick.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:26:35am

Any energy project is a go. Remove all regulation. Shale, oil, gas, everything.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:27:40am

Having a meltdown before the whole country is pretty loserish Donald.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:27:45am

Undo everything Obama did: remove all executive orders, laws, etc.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:28:26am

re: #297 HappyWarrior

The great argument for strict enforcement with felons, arguably violent misdemeanors is that it both takes the right away from actually dangerous people and reduces the need for protection from that person. Not always, not perfectly but in the right direction.

Re:Heller
I have a plea sorta. I hope the left will not undermine Heller, but not for the reason one might first think. When i go to my fellow gun guys, and I want to calm the waters about deeper b/g checks and closing show loopholes. I want to be able to say “look, we have Heller on our side. we can afford to do this registration on the strength of a confirmed individual right.” I want to say that where we gather and train and shoot. Where they sell prepper gear.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:28:38am

re: #314 makeitstop

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And I’ll be happy to tell him where to put the pole.

As an aside, though, I LOVED that scene, where Frank slowly drags in the Festivus pole, never taking his eyes off of George, with a faint, but cruel glint in his eye.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:29:54am

re: #321 Great White Snark

The great argument for strict enforcement with felons, arguably violent misdemeanors is that it both takes the right away from actually dangerous people and reduces the need for protection from that person. Not always, not perfectly but in the right direction.

Re:Heller
I have a plea sorta. I hope the left will not undermine Heller, but not for the reason one might first think. When i go to my fellow gun guys, and I want to calm the waters about deeper b/g checks and closing show loopholes. I want to be able to say “look, we have Heller on our side. we can afford to do this registration on the strength of a confirmed individual right.” I want to say that where we gather and train and shoot. Where they sell prepper gear.

Sounds good ot me.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:30:06am

Remove all federal funding from sanctuary cities.

Remove 2,000,000 “criminal” immigrants and cancel visas to foreign countries who won’t take them back.

Suspend immigration from the usual places.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:31:11am

re: #324 MsJ

Remove all federal funding from sanctuary cities.

Remove 2,000,000 “criminal” immigrants and cancel visas to foreign countries who won’t take them back.

Suspend immigration from the usual places.

A positive vision for America!!
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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:32:04am

Introduce the following to congress:

Tax reduction and simplification will increase GDP 4% and make 25 million jobs.

Uh huh. That make sense.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:32:22am

SEAN HANNITY: All right. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange will make an appearance before a British judge tomorrow. Now the appearance is related to sexual assault charges that he’s facing in Sweden. Now this news comes just as there’s word that Assange is apparently not done waging his war against the U.S., at least not yet.

[…]

Revealing their identities, helping us and cooperating with us in our battle against the Taliban. These are real lives that are now in jeopardy and in danger. That was step one.

Then 390,000 other documents were released. Many of them classified documents. And now we have this. What is — why? Why didn’t they go after this guy and why didn’t they arrest him? Why didn’t they stop this from being published when we had so much time to do it?

[…]

Why can’t Obama do something about the WikiLeaks? We got this four months ago. You know, we can stop pirating a music and Hollywood movies, but we can’t stop this guy from stealing highly classified documents that puts people’s lives at risk?

mediamatters.org

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:33:08am

re: #324 MsJ

Remove all federal funding from sanctuary cities.

Remove 2,000,000 “criminal” immigrants and cancel visas to foreign countries who won’t take them back.

Suspend immigration from the usual places.

Not that he actually cares but isn’t this the same candidate who has been doing crocodile tears about the inner cities. Goddamn, it’s only going to get more pathetic as we get closer. Only two more weeks of this blowhard.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:33:17am

Low energy.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:34:22am

Tariffs on companies who reduce US workforce, hire in other countries and sell stuff in US. That’ll keep companies from leaving US.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:34:23am

re: #327 Nyet

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I have more respect for those who genuinely if stupidly believe Wikileaks to be a force of good than those like Hannity who only want Wikileaks to release stuff that damages their political opponents. Hannity is showing what a Grade A scumbag he really is with this shit. No principles at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:34:42am
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Jenner7  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:34:45am

None of his “policies” are new.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:35:12am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh shit he’s doing this in Gettysburg? The poor Civil War dead.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:35:32am

re: #333 Jenner7

None of his “policies” are new.

Nope he’s Pat Buchanan if Pat Buchanan were a sex fiend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:37:08am
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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:37:21am

School choice. Anything goes.

End common core.

Education sux in US. But all the socialist countries are doing wonderfully. (That is ironic.)

Affordable education. Bring Technical Colleges back (like wall builders which we need!)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:38:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:38:47am
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scottslemmons  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:39:27am

When’s he getting to his List of People I Will Have Killed?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:39:46am

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We do have vocational schools you dumbass. You’d know that if you didn’t live your life in a golden house.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:40:06am
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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:40:08am

Repeal Obamacare.

Across state lines (that’s totally new! 🙄🙄)

Let people be guinea pigs to the drug companies. (Which is already allowed)

Kid and elder care.

Like the GOP would go for any of this.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:40:56am

End illegal immigration act. Wall! Mexico paying. Definitely paying.

Fuck this guy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:41:00am

As an aside, having grown up 8 miles away from Gettysburg, it’s kind of weird. To us, it was the nearest town big enough to have decent shopping, including grocery stores. Tourists were an annoyance - the Battlefield roads were our shortcuts, except from July 4th through Labor Day, when they’d be clogged with station wagons full of bored kids that stopped at every one of the 3000 monuments - in the middle of the fucking road!

I studied history in college, taking a minor in it. My favorite prof was a Civil War buff who took a group of students every year on a tour of the battlefields in Virginia (Gettysburg was too developed for the sort of tromping we did). So, I know how crucial it was to the war, and what it symbolizes. But to me, it’s still where we’d go to buy groceries, and where Mom worked in the hospital lab, running the blood bank.

*Pronounced Gettissburg, not Gettiesburg, BTW. Named after James Gettys.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:41:13am

re: #257 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You know, I was watching an old Fred and Ginger movie — I think it was Swing Time — and there is a scene where Ginger’s nipples were clearly poking her evening gown. That was in 1936 and no one seemed concerned. This was post-Hayes Code.

The prudery of the 1960s and ’70s was a reaction to the sexual revolution, I figure. By that time, Playboy had become acceptable, and bluenoses probably feared first you let the nipples poke out, and pretty soon the top comes off, and civilization crumbles as we know it!

I found my copy of Swing Time and took a screencap of the pert-inent scene.

Fred and Ginger in Swing Time (1936)

Not quite as obvious as Farrah Fawcett’s famous poster, but this was 1936. This cap is just before Fred goes in for the kiss, but we don’t see the kiss. It happens as someone enters the room, and the door conceals them. When the door swings back, we see an excited and very happy couple. The close-ups of Ginger Rogers are head and shoulders only, so if she still had pokies, only the film crew got to see them.

The context, though, was I suppose a little racy for the day. Fred is alone in his dressing room, wearing a dressing gown. Ginger is in a backless evening gown. On her friend’s dare to kiss Fred, Ginger knocks on Fred’s door, enters the room and *closes the door,* and makes a few shy attempts to kiss him. Then, she decides to leave, but instead they end up behind the door, kissing after all. (Ahem. I don’t know if the door was green.)

I suppose bluenoses back then complained about an unmarried woman entering an unmarried man’s dressing room, and funny stuff happening behind a door. Now it’s quaint.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:42:02am

re: #342 Nyet

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Okay, I think French is an asshole but what the fuck. The issue isn’t that French adopted children that weren’t white. The issue is that Trump’s asshole supporters attacked his children and even photoshopped one of them in a gas chamber. Suggesting it’s French’s own fault because he had the “audacity” to adopt who he adopted as a reason why it’s okay for Trump’s bigot brigade to go after them is fucked up and you know me, I don’t have much sympathy for French or the NRO but his kids absolutely I do.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:42:24am

More money for cops and prosecutors.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:42:47am

More money for military.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:43:17am

I wonder if Paul Ryan is having heart palpitations right now.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:43:50am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:44:04am

re: #345 Blind Frog Belly White

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As an aside, having grown up 8 miles away from Gettysburg, it’s kind of weird. To us, it was the nearest town big enough to have decent shopping, including grocery stores. Tourists were an annoyance - the Battlefield roads were our shortcuts, except from July 4th through Labor Day, when they’d be clogged with station wagons full of bored kids that stopped at every one of the 3000 monuments - in the middle of the fucking road!

I studied history in college, taking a minor in it. My favorite prof was a Civil War buff who took a group of students every year on a tour of the battlefields in Virginia (Gettysburg was too developed for the sort of tromping we did). So, I know how crucial it was to the war, and what it symbolizes. But to me, it’s still where we’d go to buy groceries, and where Mom worked in the hospital lab, running the blood bank.

*Pronounced Gettissburg, not Gettiesburg, BTW. Named after James Gettys.

I remember seeing a good amount of CSA flags in the outskirts the two times I visited. Same thing with Antietam. That always surprised me given the fact that the CSA went in to Western Maryland and Pennsylvania to take food from the people there. It’s quite a sight. I’d love to visit it again. Really wish I knew what battles my second grandfather for sure was at. His unit disbanded right after Chancellorsville.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:44:53am

Prevent cyber attacks by stopping immigration.

Honest. To. God.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:45:31am

re: #353 MsJ

Prevent cyber attacks by stopping immigration.

Honest. To. God.

What the fuck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:45:36am
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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:45:46am

How is it red-baiting, when neither Russia, nor Putin are red?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:46:29am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:47:36am

re: #356 Nyet

How is it red-baiting, when neither Russia, nor Putin are red?

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The same way Obama’s “czars” were proof of his Marxism, duh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:47:44am
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b.d.  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:47:45am

re: #342 Nyet

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I read that David French piece at NRO and it took me over 20 minutes because that website took forever to load, kept locking and refreshing seemingly due to all of the background, sneaky crap there? Has anyone has that problem with that place? Every other place on the tubes has been fine…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:48:23am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He basically wants to punish anyone who didn’t kiss his orange ass.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:49:23am

So, Trump’s Gettysburg address is a continuation of his debate and Al Smith dinner performances: a listing of petty grievances and threats, and a crazy-ass litany of shit he’ll do away with or put into effect by waving his tiny hands.

So sorry I missed it.

Not

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:49:59am

re: #353 MsJ

Prevent cyber attacks by stopping immigration.

Honest. To. God.

What’s he gonna stop the immigration of, Smart Toasters?

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:50:24am

I saw a shitload of democratic ideas in this speech. Anyone have the pulse on righty sites?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:51:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:52:08am
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wrenchwench  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:52:19am

re: #360 b.d.

I read that David French piece at NRO and it took me over 20 minutes because that website took forever to load, kept locking and refreshing seemingly due to all of the background, sneaky crap there? Has anyone has that problem with that place? Every other place on the tubes has been fine…

Since I never go in there, I only have problems with what (and sometimes who) comes out of there.

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Jenner7  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:52:22am

“I want the US to pay for the wall, but Mexico will understand and pay us back.”

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ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:52:35am

re: #157 Dave In Austin

Walter Shapiro @MrWalterShapiro
Other side of Hillary: nyti.ms Third debate seen through the prism of her oldest friends. Does Trump have a single friend?
12:42 AM - 22 Oct 2016
Watching the debate last week, from left: Judy Osgood, Patsy Bowles, Bonnie Ward Klehr, Jill Harker, Katie Ricketts, Betsy Ebeling and Hardye Moel.
Debate-Watching With Hillary Clinton’s BFFs
Spending an evening with the candidate’s childhood friends.
nytimes.com
99 99 Retweets 152 152 likes

Is the doggie all ROTFLOL?

Sure looks like it. Oh, that Trump!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:53:19am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:53:25am

re: #353 MsJ

Prevent cyber attacks by stopping immigration.

Honest. To. God.

Clueless, as usual. Remember, he wanted the military to start sending messages by courier, and not electronically. Maybe he imagines his tweets on his cellphone are hand carried from the service provider to the recipients individually.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:53:49am
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b.d.  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:54:13am

Are there any Rebel flags waving in the crowd?

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mmmirele  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:55:01am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

That’s true but he was far from a dove in his foreign policy. That said, at least he served unlike Mitt “I demonstrated in favor of the draft and then went to France” Romney and Trump. I know the mission work is a big deal for the LDS but you know what, if Mitt really believed in the draft and the cause of Vietnam, he should have put that aside and signed up. My grandfather served with a lot of LDS guys who weren’t nearly as connected as Mitt was. Nixon is interesting though. Very interesting figure.

I have been told by older Mormon friends of mine that there was a quota on the number of missionaries who could be sent out in the 1960s and early 1970s. There was a fear that if every young Mormon male went out on a mission and thus declared themselves ineligible for the draft, this would attract government attention as a whole cohort of young men were basically opting out of military service. I do not know about Mitt Romney himself, but I would suspect that he was one of the lucky, privileged one or two in every ward (congregation) who was allowed to go. The rest had to present themselves for the draft. Some got high draft numbers and weren’t drafted; some got lower draft numbers and had to go to Vietnam and seriously resented the Mitt Romneys of the world.

Just as a side note, I have a Mormon college friend several years older than me. His parents were liberal and very anti-war. Their plan was to send their son to relatives in Alberta, Canada if he got a low draft number. They did not tell him this. On his own, he came up with a different plan, which was that he was going to literally shoot himself in the foot if he got a low number.

Crazy times.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:55:08am

re: #373 b.d.

Are there any Rebel flags waving in the crowd?

I didn’t see an audience shot at all.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:55:37am

re: #271 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Beats a mohel doing a circumcision in the back seat, like that one SNL commercial.

During a bris I attended the mohel had his Illinois vanity license plate with the word MOHEL on it.

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b.d.  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:56:16am

re: #371 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Clueless, as usual. Remember, he wanted the military to start sending messages by courier, and not electronically. Maybe he imagines his tweets on his cellphone are hand carried from the service provider to the recipients individually.

Probably scarier. Trump’s plan to stop cyber attacks probably involves separating the US from the World Wide Web and using an in-house one, like North Korea uses.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:56:29am

re: #370 FormerDirtDart

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Please Mike, Joe Biden was handling Robert Bork when you were probably preaching about the dangers of dancing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:57:16am

YouTube

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:58:28am

re: #374 mmmirele

I have been told by older Mormon friends of mine that there was a quota on the number of missionaries who could be sent out in the 1960s and early 1970s. There was a fear that if every young Mormon male went out on a mission and thus declared themselves ineligible for the draft, this would attract government attention as a whole cohort of young men were basically opting out of military service. I do not know about Mitt Romney himself, but I would suspect that he was one of the lucky, privileged one or two in every ward (congregation) who was allowed to go. The rest had to present themselves for the draft. Some got high draft numbers and weren’t drafted; some got lower draft numbers and had to go to Vietnam and seriously resented the Mitt Romneys of the world.

Just as a side note, I have a Mormon college friend several years older than me. His parents were liberal and very anti-war. Their plan was to send their son to relatives in Alberta, Canada if he got a low draft number. They did not tell him this. On his own, he came up with a different plan, which was that he was going to literally shoot himself in the foot if he got a low number.

Crazy times.

Interesting, I didn’t know that. Honestly it wouldn’t bother me if Mitt was sincerely against the Vietnam War but like so many conservatives of his generation, he was all for it but didn’t go himself. I’ve heard some stories from my Dad about the lengths guys were willing to get out of the draft. Fortunately for me, my Dad was never drafted himself. He doesn’t know what he would have done had he been.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:58:44am
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Poligeek  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:59:02am

re: #379 Blind Frog Belly White

Lol… so appropriate :) My girl absolutely LOVES Invader Zim.. we’ll watch the whole run every six months or so just because we can :)

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 22, 2016 • 9:59:15am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:02:05am
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bratwurst  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:02:13am

re: #379 Blind Frog Belly White

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Video

I actually think Huckabee is MORE despicable than Trump in many ways. Trump, like the snake he frequently bellows about, is being who and what he is. Huckabee is meant to be a man of God .

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:02:17am
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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:03:17am

re: #384 Dr. Matt

Christ, no wonder they didn’t show any audience shots.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:04:10am

re: #384 Dr. Matt

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It’s part of the GOP’s Outreach To Women.
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:04:45am

re: #387 MsJ

Christ, no wonder they didn’t show any audience shots.

They’d be too busy blurring out the T-shirt slogans.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:04:53am

re: #387 MsJ

Christ, no wonder they didn’t show any audience shots.

They didn’t want to risk the audience shooting back.

Half /

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:05:24am

re: #385 bratwurst

I actually think Huckabee is MORE despicable than Trump in many ways. Trump, like the snake he frequently bellows about, is being who and what he is. Huckabee is meant to be a man of God .

Yep, see Pence, Mike or Cruz, Ted or Santorum, Rick for other representations of that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:05:25am

I’d pay money to see Biden punch Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:05:51am

re: #384 Dr. Matt

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I’m sure he’s a nice fella. //

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Jay C  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:06:49am

re: #381 FormerDirtDart

So, do I have this right? Trump’s big Gettysburg “policy” speech turns out to be:

1. Petty personal gripes about “the media”
2. Jabs at Hillary Clinton/President Obama
3. Anti-immigrant ranting with more “wall” shit.
4. An “agenda” of old boilerplate Republican nostrums which went nowhere when they were new, and haven’t gotten livelier since.

IOW, SSDD??

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b.d.  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:07:04am

re: #384 Dr. Matt

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Where are the Glock copyright folks?

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:09:43am

OK, I hate to admit it, but Chuck’s piece on Fred Trump’s alleged Klan membership does appear to sow some reasonable doubt. Though it should be noted that even the initial Boing Boing piece said that “this is not proof that Trump senior—who would later go on to become a millionaire real estate developer—was a member of the Ku Klux Klan or even in attendance at the event”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:10:47am

I did a thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:10:53am

re: #392 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d pay money to see Biden punch Trump.

Biden wouldn’t have to do more than give his patented “extended stare”.

Ask Paul Ryan about that one.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:14:23am

Dr Alice Roberts is also a painter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:15:21am
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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:18:24am

re: #394 Jay C

So, do I have this right? Trump’s big Gettysburg “policy” speech turns out to be:

1. Petty personal gripes about “the media”
2. Jabs at Hillary Clinton/President Obama
3. Anti-immigrant ranting with more “wall” shit.
4. An “agenda” of old boilerplate Republican nostrums which went nowhere when they were new, and haven’t gotten livelier since.

IOW, SSDD??

Mostly. But he did provide a new thing:

cut taxes and spend a shitload of dollars on what used to be things Republican’s wouldn’t spend dollars on.

Oh and all those socialist Nordic countries are doing education right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:20:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:22:27am

re: #401 MsJ

Mostly. But he did provide a new thing:

cut taxes and spend a shitload of dollars on what used to be things Republican’s wouldn’t spend dollars on.

Oh and all those socialist Nordic countries are doing education right.

And we’re going to pay for the wall after all, Mexico will reimburse us later…

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:22:34am

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I don’t see Blackjack mentioned in that list.

RBS

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:22:53am
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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:23:11am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:25:40am

re: #406 MsJ

Maybe running against Obama’s policies is not such a good idea, I think.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:26:52am

GLWT.

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ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:32:30am

re: #269 Stanley Sea

7 Minutes - worth the watch

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Video

Well worth the watch!

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wrenchwench  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:35:46am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:36:19am

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I can usually decipher that crap pretty easily but nope.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:37:00am

Trump Org business rating sucks — 19 on a scale of 100.

bipartisanreport.com

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:41:41am

re: #412 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

RIGGED!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:46:17am

Modern “patriotism”. WOLVERINEZ!!111!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:46:45am

re: #413 jaunte

RIGGED!

Trump wants to be president so he can siphon money from the federal government to fund his cockamamie projects.

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BigPapa  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:47:08am

re: #410 wrenchwench

Ha ha, crafty. I installed a stupidly expensive projector last week, worked for 3 days. Instead of a scarf for backup I just muttered under my breath ‘should have stuck to throwing pizza’ incessantly between big swears.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:47:09am

re: #414 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Modern “patriotism”. WOLVERINEZ!!111!!

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Dafuq?

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:47:23am

On the Great News front. Ruin every one of these hateful, entitled punks.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:48:01am

re: #414 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Modern “patriotism”. WOLVERINEZ!!111!!

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Assholes.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:49:09am
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ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:49:10am

re: #281 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So this is cool. A color-coded map of the river basins of the USA.

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Way cool.

You mention the Ohio. Since it defines the bottom of the state it is easy for me to see the three major rivers that drain the middle of the state all the way to the Ohio River. On the left you can see the Miami River(s…Great and Little), In the middle the Scioto River and to the right the Muskingum.

I can even find Columbus because I can see the Olentangy and Scioto coming together which is just about right downtown. It even shows some of the topography of the state by how the rivers curve in the Appalachian foothills to the east (Muskingum) and how straight they are in the flatter mid-state (Scioto) Columbus and then curve as it hits the Chillicothe area and the hills form there to the Ohio River.

Thanks for that link.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:49:43am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:50:01am

re: #420 Nyet

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Such drama queens. TRADITIONAL AMERICA IS BEING DESTROYED, LET’S SUPPORT VLAD!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:50:14am

re: #414 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Modern “patriotism”. WOLVERINEZ!!111!!

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As if Putin would give the USA back once he took it. Idiots.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:50:31am

re: #422 Nyet

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Hahahaha yeah Putin respects US sovereignty sooooooooooooo much. //

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:50:46am

re: #424 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

As if Putin would give the USA back once he took it. Idiots.

They really are.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:51:22am

re: #425 HappyWarrior

Hahahaha yeah Putin respects US sovereignty sooooooooooooo much. //

Just like he respects the sovereignty of Ukraine and Georgia!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:51:22am

re: #421 ObserverArt

Yer welcome

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Tigger2  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:51:38am

re: #409 ObserverArt

Well worth the watch!

Awesome

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:52:05am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

They really are.

I think it all boils down to Putin having a Y chromosome.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:53:22am

re: #430 Blind Frog Belly White

I think it all boils down to Putin having a Y chromosome.

No doubt, just like for many of them it was his white skin being a factor over Obama.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:53:38am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:53:46am

re: #427 Blind Frog Belly White

Just like he respects the sovereignty of Ukraine and Georgia!

Which Georgia?//

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:53:59am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

No doubt, just like for many of them it was his white skin being a factor over Obama.

Neither. He’s right-wing conservative, like them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:54:10am

re: #433 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Which Georgia?//

Putin’s March to the Sea.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:54:27am

re: #373 b.d.

Are there any Rebel flags waving in the crowd?

No but Pepe is running the lights.
///

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:54:38am

re: #434 Nyet

Neither. He’s right-wing conservative, like them.

Yep, that’s the big factor but no doubt their racism and sexism plays a role here too.

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ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:54:56am

re: #312 MsJ

“Term limits”

“Freeze in federal employee hiring-attrition.”

“For every new regulation put in place, two regulations must go away.”

Oy.

Sounds like he really opened up the old butcher’s shop with this first 100 days speech.

100 day sale on Red Meat for Conservatives. Stock up!

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:55:23am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:55:32am

Gosh wonder what my mom’s cousin thinks all of the Putin’s love. His kids are all adopted from Russia but yet he likes Trump. So strange.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:55:53am

Guys, you have a 5th column problem on your hands.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:57:45am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:58:55am

re: #441 Nyet

Guys, you have a 5th column problem on your hands.

In my lifetime, the American right wing has gone from fearing the Soviet Union enough to point hundreds of nuclear missiles at it, to inviting Russia to invade the country to save it from Democrats.

I have no words.

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BigPapa  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:58:56am

re: #422 Nyet

Putin respects and supports America. Hillary Clinton wants to destroy her. You don’t want Murica destroyed, do you?

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Tigger2  Oct 22, 2016 • 10:59:52am

re: #414 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Modern “patriotism”. WOLVERINEZ!!111!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:00:20am

re: #439 Nyet

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Heh the irony of a guy with a McCarthy avatar pledging to fight with a Russian despot.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:00:58am

This is astonishing. The Right Wing that spent nearly the last 100 years saying the Left didn’t take the Russian threat seriously enough now finds its ranks full of people who would assist an ex-KGB spook overthrow a democratically elected government, because they’re afraid it won’t preserve the white privilege they never earned.

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wrenchwench  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:01:07am

Time to bring out the beadwork.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:02:02am

re: #447 Blind Frog Belly White

This is astonishing. The Right Wing that spent nearly the last 100 years saying the Left didn’t take the Russian threat seriously enough now finds its ranks full of people who would assist an ex-KGB spook overthrow a democratically elected government, because they’re afraid it won’t preserve the white privilege they never earned.

Yep.

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scottslemmons  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:03:15am

re: #439 Nyet

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Taking bets on how many of these Manly He-Men will spend November through March cowering in their basements.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:04:08am

Funny how all these Patriots supporting Putin are too afraid to use their real names when they tweet this stuff from the anonymous safety of their mom’s basement.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:04:14am

re: #450 scottslemmons

Taking bets on how many of these Manly He-Men will spend November through March cowering in their basements.

All of them, Katie.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:04:25am

re: #450 scottslemmons

Taking bets on how many of these Manly He-Men will spend November through March cowering in their basements.

The First Alpha Keyboard Regiment fighting for duty, Comrade Vladimir!

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No Depression  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:05:02am

re: #424 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

As if Putin would give the USA back once he took it. Idiots.

You’re assuming they’d want him to. In many respects, Russia is basically a right-wing utopia: an oligarchic authoritarian state that gives Christian fundamentalists free reign to persecute their enemies.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:05:43am

These are of course the same people who insisted any opposition to Bush and the war in Iraq was “abetting the enemy” and here they are because they know their candidate is going to lose pretty big saying they’d take sides with Putin over their own country. Tell us some more about how Democrats who don’t wear flag pins are just awful guys!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:05:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:05:53am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:06:08am

re: #345 Blind Frog Belly White

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As an aside, having grown up 8 miles away from Gettysburg, it’s kind of weird. To us, it was the nearest town big enough to have decent shopping, including grocery stores. Tourists were an annoyance - the Battlefield roads were our shortcuts, except from July 4th through Labor Day, when they’d be clogged with station wagons full of bored kids that stopped at every one of the 3000 monuments - in the middle of the fucking road!

I studied history in college, taking a minor in it. My favorite prof was a Civil War buff who took a group of students every year on a tour of the battlefields in Virginia (Gettysburg was too developed for the sort of tromping we did). So, I know how crucial it was to the war, and what it symbolizes. But to me, it’s still where we’d go to buy groceries, and where Mom worked in the hospital lab, running the blood bank.

*Pronounced Gettissburg, not Gettiesburg, BTW. Named after James Gettys.

8 miles away, huh. So you didn’t have a Gettysburg address….

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:06:13am

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

Though to be fair, some of those basements may even be in St. Petersburg (and I don’t mean Florida).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:07:06am

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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Man am I glad I never fell for the idea that Assenge and Wikileaks were heroes. Hey guys if you’re so into disclosing information, why don’t you leak Putin’s communiques or Trumps or the RNC ones if you’re actually oh so concerned with information being available to the public.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:07:27am

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mikey is in a constant rage these last few months.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:07:34am

re: #459 Nyet

Though to be fair, some of those basements may even be in St. Petersburg (and I don’t mean Florida).

Babushkas need to start kicking ass.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:08:25am

re: #458 Barefoot Grin

8 miles away, huh. So you didn’t have a Gettysburg address….

WHACK!

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:08:59am

re: #282 thedopefishlives

You can really see how the Mississippi-Ohio river complex dominates the center of the country. That’s one huge drainage ditch.

I can conceivably put a boat in right at the main bridge here in my small hometown in NW PA and take it to the Gulf of Mexico.

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BigPapa  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:10:13am

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

When was Wikileaks ever good? He assumes it was good at one point.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:10:21am

re: #464 Eventual Carrion

I can conceivably put a boat in right at the main bridge here in my small hometown in NW PA and take it to the Gulf of Mexico.

When my brother lived in Bemidji MN, the Mighty Mississippi was the creek behind his house.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:10:56am

re: #461 Nyet

Mikey is in a constant rage these last few months.

He hates Hillary and the Democratic party so much that it’s beyond simple dislike/disagreement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:11:48am

re: #465 BigPapa

When was Wikileaks ever good? He assumes it was good at one point.

Michael Tracey simply does not care.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:12:10am

re: #465 BigPapa

When was Wikileaks ever good? He assumes it was good at one point.

This is the problem with looking at things solely in terms of team advantage. Wikileaks wasn’t a noble cause gone wrong. The rot was at its heart from the beginning.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:12:41am

re: #469 Blind Frog Belly White

This is the problem with looking at things solely in terms of team advantage. Wikileaks wasn’t a noble cause gone wrong. The rot was at its heart from the beginning.

Right.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:12:57am

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know. He has a weakness of Putin too, like his pal Adam Johnson.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:13:09am

The funniest thing to me is seeing Sean Hannity cheer Wikileaks on just like he pretended to be outraged by the NSA.

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No Depression  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:13:11am

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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He does realize the central argument of his piece is a straw man argument, which is, last I checked, a logical fallacy, right?

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BigPapa  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:13:25am

I still remember the Collateral Murder video. Scrutinized right here at LGF. Shady and skeevy for sure.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:13:29am

OK. It’s 2 am here. Time to get off Twitter, and get some sleep.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:15:49am

re: #473 No Depression

He does realize the central argument of his piece is a straw man argument, which is, last I checked, a logical fallacy, right?

There you go again with that establishment conformism! //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:16:08am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:16:13am

One interesting thing from the most recent debate, and that Trump keeps bringing up - the idea that Clinton should have been barred from running for President because of emailsbenghazibill’swomenclintonfoundationwhatever - there isn’t a mechanism to automatically prevent even a convicted felon from running for President, let alone someone who’s not even under indictment.

It seems to me that he’s really saying, “Hillary Clinton should have been barred from running for office because she’s beating me like a rented mule.”

What a winner!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:18:09am
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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:18:17am

Speaking of Mikey reminds me of the Amish discussion.
I have since then located two local reporters who also identified the people at the rally as Amish.

Robert Devonshire Jr.:

lancasteronline.com

And George Sheldon:

georgesheldon.com
georgesheldon.com
This guy also has a post on the difference between the Amish and the Mennonites, so he knows what he is talking about: georgesheldon.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:18:34am

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh, look a not so original Antisemitic dog whistle.

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ObserverArt  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:18:53am

re: #441 Nyet

Guys, you have a 5th column problem on your hands.

Been worried about them since the Vietnam War days and since I graduated high school in ‘72. Pretty much my whole adult life has been a worry about a rot from within and how America could turn out its own form of patriotic-religious based fascism.

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MsJ  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:19:12am

re: #478 Blind Frog Belly White

Stolded that!

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scottslemmons  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:21:15am

Who is Michael Tracey anyway? Seems like I see him everywhere now. Is he the final form of HA Goodman?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:21:42am

re: #480 Nyet

Speaking of Mikey reminds me of the Amish discussion.
I have since then located two local reporters who also identified the people at the rally as Amish.

Robert Devonshire Jr.:

lancasteronline.com

And George Sheldon:

georgesheldon.com
georgesheldon.com
This guy also has a post on the difference between the Amish and the Mennonites, so he knows what he is talking about: georgesheldon.com

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:21:43am

re: #484 scottslemmons

Who is Michael Tracey anyway? Seems like I see him everywhere now. Is he the final form of HA Goodman?

A Vice reporter.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:22:51am

re: #484 scottslemmons

Who is Michael Tracey anyway? Seems like I see him everywhere now. Is he the final form of HA Goodman?

“If you strike me down, I will become more powerful annoyingly obtuse than you can possibly imagine.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:23:18am

re: #485 Blind Frog Belly White

Die Endlösung der Amishfrage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:25:44am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:26:40am

re: #489 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Bill Mitchell followers, no doubt.

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Nyet  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:33:42am

OK, from the earlier discussion of the series.

Short “to watch” list:

Stranger Things
Black Mirror
Arrow
Penny Dreadful

The towering giants to I want to watch in the future:
Walking Dead
Game of Thrones

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2016 • 11:36:39am
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EPR-radar  Oct 22, 2016 • 12:18:48pm

re: #441 Nyet

Guys, you have a 5th column problem on your hands.

Of course. The GOP has effectively been treasonous for some time. Now it is more explicit with Putin for the Trumpists to fawn over.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 22, 2016 • 12:27:19pm

re: #283 KingKenrod

“Poor sap?” Not how I usually describe a very popular two-term President.


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