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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:25:29pm

That’s Lenin, not Stalin.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:28:33pm

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

Yep, already corrected. All these dictators look alike.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:29:04pm

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

That’s Lenin, not Stalin.

Woot! I got one right!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:29:42pm

Here are some utterly horrible photos of Trump. DO NOT TWEET!

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Amory Blaine  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:29:44pm

Stalin is inside the Trump one.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:30:25pm

We are so in for it.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:31:44pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Ooh, he’s going to get you for that, just you wait.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:31:53pm

I have a Russian Leaders Matryoshka set that I got in Moscow in 2007. It has Putin, Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Stalin and a teeny tiny Lenin. I keep it on display with my South Park Matryoshka set. Putin between Kenny and Kyle.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:34:04pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

I have a Russian Leaders Matryoshka set that I got in Moscow in 2007. It has Putin, Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Stalin and a teeny tiny Lenin. I keep it on display with my South Park Matryoshka set. Putin between Kenny and Kyle.

Gorbachev? Really? I would’ve expected that Russians had particular disdain for that particular leader. Khruschev, maybe.

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:39:01pm

Almost 0° F at my twenty. We’ll go through 30 pounds of pellets in the pellet stove tonight. Brr.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:39:59pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

Almost 0° F at my twenty. We’ll go through 30 pounds of pellets in the pellet stove tonight. Brr.

It’s already below 0 here, and rapidly plummeting. I’m just so glad I have the furnace fixed. And I’ve ordered an upgrade kit for my furnace to change the air filter to a more modern style and do away with the annoying pleat combs that are all broken in my current air filter.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:42:25pm

re: #9 thedopefishlives

Gorbachev? Really? I would’ve expected that Russians had particular disdain for that particular leader. Khruschev, maybe.

Putin, Yeltsin & Gorby were the most recent leaders in 2007. The Stalin & Lenin figures were probably standard. Most popular Matryoshka sets contain only 5 figures. There are some more expensive sets that contain up to 20 figures.

I’d like to get a set to match my avi: an angry Babushka. (the avi I use is Photoshopped)

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thedopefishlives  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:44:37pm

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

That’s fair enough. I just assumed they’d keep with the Soviet theme and put Khrushchev in place of Gorbachev. After all, the Soviet empire collapsed under Gorbachev, but Khrushchev was pounding the table.

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stpaulbear  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:45:25pm

I’m old enough to remember when Amazon music recommendations were stuff I might actually be interested in and not just stuff they want to sell.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:47:17pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Here are some utterly horrible photos of Trump. DO NOT TWEET!

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Looks like Michael Moore’s older brother

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:47:48pm

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

Putin, Yeltsin & Gorby were the most recent leaders in 2007. The Stalin & Lenin figures were probably standard. Most popular Matryoshka sets contain only 5 figures. There are some more expensive sets that contain up to 20 figures.

I’d like to get a set to match my avi: an angry Babushka. (the avi I use is Photoshopped)

An angry Babushka set like your avi would be awesome. Hint hint to your kids to pitch in & hire an artist.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:53:12pm

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

Wasn’t Bannon a fan of Lenin?

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:56:16pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:57:02pm

Remember when righties hated Commies?

oh my god, my wife is a socialist!.avi

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2016 • 6:58:30pm

I’m sorry to post the same stupid joke, but Trump as a nesting doll is perfect: so full of himself.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:02:27pm

And something else I’ve written before after Pres. Obama’s remarks about Russia: he’s right; there are incredibly brilliant Russian people, Russia has a rich history, but right now it is a petrostate that basically makes nothing, and Putin is in charge. China has huge problems, too. But it is a dynamic state that will be both adversary and ally as any important state will be. That’s where our strategic expertise is most needed—In north and southeast Asia. Fuck Putin.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:08:12pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:11:08pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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The CT in me (but at this point, what is CT) thinks this is a Bannon plan to propagandize the whole fucking world in favor of the takeover.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:14:34pm
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Interesting Times  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:20:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:26:21pm
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lockjawcanbefun  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:26:49pm

At first glance, I thought that those were those inflatable punch clown thingies.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:31:15pm

It’s 20 degrees here at the Conspiracy Compound right now, which is damn cold for this neck of the woods (such as they are). My agents behind wingnut lines in Lubbock report that it is 10 there, with a low of possibly 4. There is even a chance of hitting the 0 mark for the first time since 1987.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:33:47pm

How cold is it? I just heard a pitiful scratching and whimpering at the front door. It was a brass monkey some thoughtless owner had left out to freeze, and worse. I brought the poor creature in and gave it a blanket and a place by the fire.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:35:47pm

New avi. Been a while.

Fuck Trump & this shit we are going to be dealing with.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:37:45pm

Same with J-Schools

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Kilroy was here  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:40:50pm

I know Back to the Future’s Biff is based on a younger Trump, but dang.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:41:27pm
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bratwurst  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:42:11pm

New product idea: large wall mounted tablet device designed ONLY to receive and display Trump tweets in the homes of the “economically pressured”.

Call it a telescreen, real patriotic marketing campaign.

Just trying to make some lemonade here.

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:43:18pm

Observation: Trump’s braying tough guy thing on Twitter is very much like the internal propaganda shoveled by tinpot dictators: even when it’s “addressed” to foreign nations, it’s really directed at an internal audience: keeping the believers the proper level of smug/angry, and the fearful the correct level of fearful. This is…profoundly stupid…since we’re THE superpower, not a barely-making-it petrostate ruled by a guy festooned with fake campaign ribbons. Being boring and less-dramatic than the alternative regional powers is part of our power.

But we can’t get smug about this. This kind of posturing to maintain a national ferment is usually paired with shit-tons of corruption, scapegoating of the “Snowball fucked this up, not us” variety, and encouraging internal us-them divisions. Bread, circuses, and cathartic acts of misdirected cruelty.

It’s not genius strategy—it’s super fucking basic in a Bugs Bunny cartoon way—but it still works temporarily while the people actually in the kleptocracy strip the fucking cupboards. Long term, it’s as healthy for the body politic as open-pit mining asbestos.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:46:18pm

re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea

You are right, this is a PLAN.

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Weaselone  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:46:25pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

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Same with J-Schools

Honestly, I think at the moment that I hate Trump’s propagandists and the national media more than Trump himself.

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:48:30pm

re: #36 Stanley Sea

It s the most basic of scams, and its a direct continuation of the grift being run by GOP elected officials and the dungpile of ideologues and “pundits.”

It doesn’t need to be a conspiracy, it’s not even a heist. It’s a bullshitter bullshitting because he never stops working the marks.

ETA to clarify: the current GOP leadership includes:
(1) people who are wholly cynical profiteers
(2) ideologues that see opportunity to rebuild society in their image after shit goes bad, and thus won’t stop the scammers
(3) people that have no cynicism/idealism spectrum because they only care about themselves.

All of the above are always a problem in any organization, and by no means exclusive to the Republican Party. However, the current Republican Party contains almost no conservatism ( in the sense of light-handed goverment, because it simply shifts power opportunistically—see “state’s rights”), no conservatism (in the sense of traditional values, since it re-invents “tradition” to its need), and no conservatism (in the sense of genuine thrift or efficiency of allocation of resources).

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:51:53pm

OT, hahahahaha SO fits the stereotype brah

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Cheechako  Dec 17, 2016 • 7:59:39pm

re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea

Observation: Trump’s braying tough guy thing on Twitter is very much like the internal propaganda shovelled by tinpot dictators: even when it’s “addressed” to foreign nations, it’s really directed at an internal audience: keeping the believers the proper level of smug/angry, and the fearful the correct level of fearful. This is…profoundly stupid…since we’re THE superpower, not a barely-making it petrostate ruled by a guy festooned with fake campaign ribbons. Being boring and less-dramatic than the alternative regional powers is part of our power.

But we can’t guy smug about this. This kind of posturing to maintain a national ferment is usually paired with shit-tons of corruption, scapegoating of the “Snowball fucked this up, not us” variety, and encouraging internal us-them divisions. Bread, circuses, and cathartic acts of misdirected cruelty.

It’s not genius strategy—it’s super fucking basic in a Bugs Bunny cartoon way—but it still works temporarily while the people actual in the kleptocracy strip the fucking cupboards. Long term, it’s as healthy for the body politic as strip-mining asbestos.

I think a big part of trumps strategy is to stir up animosity toward China so he can “stiff” the hugh amount of $’s he owes Chinese banks. He’s creating a position for himself whereby he can claim China is causing all types of problems for the US and therefore he’s going to walk away from his debt to punish them.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:02:21pm

re: #40 Cheechako

I think a big part of trumps strategy is to stir up animosity toward China so he can “stiff” the hugh amount of $’s he owes Chinese banks. He’s creating a position for himself whereby he can claim China is causing all types of problems for the US and therefore he’s going to walk away from his debt to punish them.

War threats are just going to be a side dish.

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Cheechako  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:17:30pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

War threats are just going to be a side dish.

Trump thinks only of himself and how much money he has. Doesn’t give a damn about anything else. Notice how many “true” friends he has….just his family and sometimes I wonder about them.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:28:09pm

re: #42 Cheechako

As a new President he will have endless friends. Should he take that one step too far, whatever that may be (shudder) he will have none.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:30:34pm
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Cheechako  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:32:42pm

re: #43 Unshaken Defiance

As a new President he will have endless friends. Should he take that one step too far, whatever that may be (shudder) he will have none.

His new “endless friends” will just be opportunists taking advantage of him. He will never learn how separate the two. You are correct…when things turn to shit he will be abandoned and tossed aside.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:34:21pm

SNL is slaying it. With a big helping of Vlad.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:37:38pm

re: #42 Cheechako

Trump thinks only of himself and how much money he has. Doesn’t give a damn about anything else. Notice how many “true” friends he has….just his family and sometimes I wonder about them.

He was always a pariah in cultured upper East side NYC. Until he started promising them zero taxes. Some came on board. Ross/Mnuchin etc.

Very very gross. I bet they still cannot stand him but are so fucking greedy.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:39:54pm

Los Angeles has no serious weather problem tonight, all respects and best wishes to those in seriously cold zones. Yikes. Shiplord in Texas at 20f? Anyway it will hit the low thirties here so we made a few adjustments.

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Cheechako  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:40:15pm

Based on trumps knowledge, skills, and abilities…he is a very small fish in a very big ocean. The sharks will strip him to the bones.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:41:15pm

re: #49 Cheechako

Based on trumps knowledge, skills, and abilities…he is a very small fish in a very big ocean. The sharks will strip him to the bones.

We really are counting on our institutions to save us.

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Cheechako  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:42:36pm

re: #50 Unshaken Defiance

We really are counting on our institutions to save us.

The House will be one of the bigger sharks.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:42:50pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:43:48pm

re: #48 Unshaken Defiance

It’s 43 here in the inland empire. Saying it will go to 29!!!!!!!! holy fuck.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:44:58pm

re: #50 Unshaken Defiance

We really are counting on our institutions to save us.

With the current crop of GOP (especially the Suicide Caucus) controlling all three barnches of government?

Let’s see what happens Monday….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:45:04pm

re: #27 lockjawcanbefun

At first glance, I thought that those were those inflatable punch clown thingies.

You could sell Trump versions of those and make a fortune.

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:45:38pm

-18° C right now in the near-upper Colorado River basin. (Colorado, not Texas)

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:46:28pm

re: #53 Stanley Sea

It’s 43 here in the inland empire. Saying it will go to 29!!!!!!!! holy fuck.

We’re at 13, with a good breeze making it feel like 2 below. With snow drifting on top of ice. My thoughts are with everyone that has to be out tonight!!!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:46:41pm

Clearest indication yet that Canada will outlast all other Western liberal democracies.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:46:57pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:48:07pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

I love my country so much…and miss it dearly.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:49:45pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

I love my country so much…and miss it dearly.

I knew you’d like that one.

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Cheechako  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:53:57pm

AK panhandle weather report. Currently 35* with light rain coming down on about 10” of old snow. The past 2 weeks have been 5* to 24* and mostly sunny. The bad part, on sunny days, daylight is now 6 and a half hours long. Seasonal Adjustment Disorder (SAD) is becoming infectious.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:57:46pm

Well gang, it’s Toonami time!

See ya tomorrow!

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mmmirele  Dec 17, 2016 • 8:57:48pm

Some of you probably saw that a video of OU player Joe Mixon slugging an 18 YO woman (who, granted, pushed and slapped him) came out yesterday as the result of a suit by local Oklahoma press. Because of the way Mixon hit her, the woman hit the table and then the floor, and her jaw was shattered and had to be wired shut. She’s graduating this month, no thanks to all this drama.

So apparently Mixon’s celebrity pastor, one Carl Lentz of Hillsong NYC, told TMZ that people should forgive Mixon. I tweeted my comments, I think you can follow them here.

For the record, there is a Hillsong franchise 2 miles from my house in Arizona, and I actually went there after the acquisition. (Yes, I’m using business terms, because that’s the way I see it.) Not because I wanted to, but because someone I knew wanted to see if the auditorium could really fit 2,000 people. (Answer: yes.) I decided I would never attend again, because it was SO NOISY I couldn’t even hear my phone ring when the pastor was preaching and I just needed earplugs. (ETA: Yes, someone called me during church. No, I didn’t answer. But the only reason I knew he was calling was I was holding the phone in my hand and it vibrated as it rang.)

I don’t get why, of all the people who tweet at Carl Lentz, he selected my tweets to respond to.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:06:00pm

No response yet from Trump about SNL and Alec Baldwin. I wonder if they took his phone away. Or maybe he’s sleeping.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:07:58pm

re: #65 wheat-dogg

He watched. He’s sedated or something.

5 am. Just wait.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:08:14pm
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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:10:02pm

re: #67 Dave In Austin

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Oh no….

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:11:56pm

re: #68 retired cynic

Yeah. Back in August… possibly coming to the US.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:20:39pm

This is horrific. We have lost intelligence & common sense in trying to fight terror. You see a normal woman, she’s a normal woman. Following protocol is a cop out submission to fascism. I’m APPALLED. Watch the vid.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:26:56pm

re: #53 Stanley Sea

It’s 43 here in the inland empire. Saying it will go to 29!!!!!!!! holy fuck.

Just got home from a very long walk in Koreatown/Hancock Park sections of Los Angeles. Cold winds were whipping up. I’m chilled to the bone wondering how I was able to deliver the Pittsburgh Post Gazette when I was a kid!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:29:13pm

re: #71 Joe Bacon

Just got home from a very long walk in Koreatown/Hancock Park sections of Los Angeles. Cold winds were whipping up. I’m chilled to the bone wondering how I was able to deliver the Pittsburgh Post Gazette when I was a kid!

You were a kid! easy!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:30:09pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

Reading the comments to that story, “she was doing her job” “you must comply”

Fascism is going to be so easy here.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:30:57pm

re: #64 mmmirele

Some of you probably saw that a video of OU player Joe Mixon slugging an 18 YO woman (who, granted, pushed and slapped him) came out yesterday as the result of a suit by local Oklahoma press. Because of the way Mixon hit her, the woman hit the table and then the floor, and her jaw was shattered and had to be wired shut. She’s graduating this month, no thanks to all this drama.

So apparently Mixon’s celebrity pastor, one Carl Lentz of Hillsong NYC, told TMZ that people should forgive Mixon. I tweeted my comments, I think you can follow them here.

For the record, there is a Hillsong franchise 2 miles from my house in Arizona, and I actually went there after the acquisition. (Yes, I’m using business terms, because that’s the way I see it.) Not because I wanted to, but because someone I knew wanted to see if the auditorium could really fit 2,000 people. (Answer: yes.) I decided I would never attend again, because it was SO NOISY I couldn’t even hear my phone ring when the pastor was preaching and I just needed earplugs. (ETA: Yes, someone called me during church. No, I didn’t answer. But the only reason I knew he was calling was I was holding the phone in my hand and it vibrated as it rang.)

I don’t get why, of all the people who tweet at Carl Lentz, he selected my tweets to respond to.

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The BS coming out of that pulpit pimp’s mouth is yet another reason why churches should be stripped of their tax-exempt status.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:34:06pm

OK, I was curious. Now I’m definitely going to see

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:45:09pm

Speaking of Trump’s misspelled tweet this morning, I have a number of friends I haven’t blocked yet on Facebook that voted for Trump. Their postings are sometimes riddled with stupid spelling errors that Trump is known for on Twitter, as Chez Pazienza points out:

Before you step up to defend this idiot or merely give him the benefit of the doubt, it should be noted that this is far from the first time Trump’s shown us that an elementary school reading level isn’t something he has a real mastery of. Just a couple of weeks ago, when Trump was trying to deny the totally true story that he was planning to be involved in the new season of The Apprentice on NBC, he called the report “rediculous.” Last January, he wrote that Ted Cruz would “loose” to Hillary Clinton. In March, he tweeted that a series of commercials taking him on were “payed for” by special interest groups. In a gaffe you couldn’t make up if you tried, he once called Lawrence O’Donnell one of “the dummer people on television.” And of course earlier this year he said it was an “honer” to supposedly win in the post-debate polling.

More: thedailybanter.com

This reinforces those poor sap Trump voters I know the idea that he’s just a regular guy who can’t spell really well, just like us!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:50:56pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

I was going to make a Trump joke here but perhaps that’s not appropriate at this juncture.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:54:17pm

re: #77 Eclectic Cyborg

I was going to make a Trump joke here but perhaps that’s not appropriate at this juncture.

Ya, he’d approve.

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2016 • 9:55:56pm
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prairiefire  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:06:10pm

re: #75 Stanley Sea

OK, I was curious. Now I’m definitely going to see

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Oh yeah, that one looks really good!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:08:02pm

Ima staying up to watch.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:10:21pm

I just put a towel in the dryer for my kit.

She’s on it.

Good mama. Good mama.

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:11:28pm

-20° C.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:14:55pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:17:05pm

Even better!!!

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:22:55pm

My governor at the Ogden Theater in Denver. That’s something else. They’ve classed up the joint quite a bit since the days I went there to see super-loud punk and metal bands. I saw GWAR on that very stage on Halloween, 1998.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:25:05pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:26:27pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:28:12pm

The white system is the system.

Until it isn’t.

Trump is the backlash.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:29:55pm

I wonder if Trump will try to censor SNL.

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:31:43pm

re: #90 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if Trump will try to censor SNL.

I wonder if Trump will put Kurt Eichenwald in jail.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:43:26pm
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Anymouse  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:49:20pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

Almost 0° F at my twenty. We’ll go through 30 pounds of pellets in the pellet stove tonight. Brr.

We are on our way home, but my wife wanted to take a scenic side trip to Arches National Park (she has been there, I have not), then to Denver to have our car serviced (saves us a trip).

It is 3 F now in Nephi, Utah, where we are parked tonight. At home, it is -26 F and expected to rise to -18 by 5 AM MST, with a wind chill of -35. Nephi is looking like the tropics compared to the Nebraska Panhandle.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:50:21pm

re: #79 teleskiguy

Updinged for promoting my blog.

I debated whether I should have shared the screencaps I took of his tweets, but then I decided, why bother?

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:52:25pm

re: #94 wheat-dogg

I debated whether I should have shared the screencaps I took of his tweets, but then I decided, why bother?

You said it yourself, it’s the same shit over and over. He’s a white supremacist fascist who would have been a great judge in Stalin’s kangaroo courts.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 10:53:55pm

re: #92 Eclectic Cyborg

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Video

Never trust a white dude wearing that red hat

!!

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Anymouse  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:03:19pm

re: #76 teleskiguy

Speaking of Trump’s misspelled tweet this morning, I have a number of friends I haven’t blocked yet on Facebook that voted for Trump. Their postings are sometimes riddled with stupid spelling errors that Trump is known for on Twitter, as Chez Pazienza points out:

This reinforces those poor sap Trump voters I know the idea that he’s just a regular guy who can’t spell really well, just like us!

This goes along with an interview of Trevor Noah on NPR I heard this morning. Mr. Noah said when he first heard Mr. Trump, when he announced he was running for President, he was convinced Mr. Trump would win.

Not because Trevor Noah is a fan of Donald Trump (far from it). It was because the way he spoke was not “elitist” (his word) — Mr. Trump was speaking in very basic vocabulary and trying to appeal with both his charm (such as it is) and his showmanship to those who are not-well-versed in usage of vocabulary.

Mr. Noah noted he’d seen that particular spiel many times in various African dictators when he lived in South Africa, and was convinced it would work just as well here (when you are trying to communicate your political message, you must shoot for the largest voting base - that being those who do not have a large vocabulary — I’m bringing jobs back [without much of a plan for that] is much easier to communicate than why jobs are difficult to create in the first place and what must be done to create them.)

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:06:58pm

re: #97 Anymouse

A popular story is told about Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965) when he was running for president in 1952 (or in 1956). Someone heard Stevenson’s impressive speech and said, “Every thinking person in America will be voting for you.” Stevenson replied, “I’m afraid that won’t do—I need a majority.”

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:08:55pm
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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:11:43pm

re: #99 Stanley Sea

To be so profound in 140 characters is genius.

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Anymouse  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:12:37pm

Our black car is now almost entirely white after two trips across Lake Bonneville (plus the trips over Donner Pass during salting during snowstorms).

Just one trip across Lake Bonneville and tonight I felt like I needed an hour soak to get the salt out. I can’t imagine what it would have been like to walk that distance with no modern conveniences like bathtubs.

When we get to the Mercedes-Benz dealer in Denver, the car will be given a well-deserved bubble bath by them.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:13:19pm

re: #97 Anymouse

Trump, like Cruz, went to very good schools. Cruz, I would argue, is inherently smarter than Trump, but knows how to play dumb in order to win over his constituency. Still, he uses “big words,” but his message is what they want to hear. Trump, OTOH, is dumb. He doesn’t have to play at it. I judge him as one of those full-pay rich kids whose grades wre just enough to get into college, where he maintained a “gentleman’s C”, and then was able to weasel his way into Wharton. There’s no evidence he retained any knowledge from college or business school. Plus, he’s overly confident in his abilities and very impulsive. So as soon as he thinks of a “smart idea” he acts on it, whether by spending too much on real estate projects or tweeting about critical foreign policy issues. He doesn’t think ahead. He doesn’t worry about misspellings, or factual errors, because he’s never in his entire life had to suffer dire consequences for his mistakes. Remember, this is a guy who slugged his music teacher as a boy.

IOW he doesn’t have to pretend to be mediocre. He is mediocre by any objective standards. He makes W look statesman-like.

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Anymouse  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:18:54pm

We also went to the California Trail Interpretive Center in Nevada today. They have a much nicer centre there than the one in my own home county at Chimney Rock National Monument.

The Park Service gives lifetime free admission passes to disabled veterans; I better use it whilst I can, since both our national parks and VA are likely to become resources to plunder by the small “l” libertarians coming into the government.

I imagine Arches National Park will look a whole lot better without strip-mining.

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Anymouse  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:21:21pm

The so-called “Pizzagate Shooter” pleaded not guilty on all counts today.

wonkette.com

Wonkette speculates his defence will be fascinating, since he already admitted he did it and was caught in the act.

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austin_blue  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:30:48pm

re: #102 wheat-dogg

Trump, like Cruz, went to very good schools. Cruz, I would argue, is inherently smarter than Trump, but knows how to play dumb in order to win over his constituency. Still, he uses “big words,” but his message is what they want to hear. Trump, OTOH, is dumb. He doesn’t have to play at it. I judge him as one of those full-pay rich kids whose grades wre just enough to get into college, where he maintained a “gentleman’s C”, and then was able to weasel his way into Wharton. There’s no evidence he retained any knowledge from college or business school. Plus, he’s overly confident in his abilities and very impulsive. So as soon as he thinks of a “smart idea” he acts on it, whether by spending too much on real estate projects or tweeting about critical foreign policy issues. He doesn’t think ahead. He doesn’t worry about misspellings, or factual errors, because he’s never in his entire life had to suffer dire consequences for his mistakes. Remember, this is a guy who slugged his music teacher as a boy.

IOW he doesn’t have to pretend to be mediocre. He is mediocre by any objective standards. He makes W look statesman-like.

I think you may be slightly missing the point. Any decision he makes is correct because it it his. He is the ultimate narcissist. He has surrounded himself with children who have been raised on his omnipotence (whether they believe it or not) to stroke the ego of a megalomaniac.

It is why he continues to hold them so close. They are the ultimate codependents and facilitators of his ego. They profit from it. The wives are just chaff.

It is really a horribly sick and totally fucked up family dynamic.

Welcome to the First Family, 2017 style.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:32:14pm

The howdah pistol barrel refinishing went pretty well.

Now I’m ready to hunt tigers from the back of an elephant.

The Laurel Mountain Forge Barrel Brown worked perfectly. I’d previously tried the Birchwood Casey Plum Brown and that process was a fucking nightmare.

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:33:29pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

I’m not a gun person at all, but that is lovely!

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austin_blue  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:33:57pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

The howdah pistol barrel refinishing went pretty well.

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The Laurel Mountain Forge Barrel Brown worked perfectly. I’d previously tried the Birchwood Casey Plum Brown and that process was a fucking nightmare.

Double trigger?

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:34:47pm

re: #105 austin_blue

I think you may be slightly missing the point. …

Welcome to the First Family, 2017 style.

I think you are both right, just turning in the driveway from different directions.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:36:19pm

re: #108 austin_blue

Double trigger?

It’s a side-by-side 20 gauge muzzle stuffer. I got it from Cabellas something like seven years ago when they were a lot cheaper.

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austin_blue  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:42:17pm

re: #109 retired cynic

I think you are both right, just turning in the driveway from different directions.

Probably so. Books will be written about the dysfunction of this family and Trump’s administration, if we are still capable of printing books in its aftermath.

There is a distinct possibility that we will revert to an oral tradition until the background radiation decreases to the point that we can recreate an industrial society again.

Good times!

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Anymouse  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:42:39pm

Well, I’m off to bed. G’night, y’all. I wanted to check in and find out what dumbassery was going on - gaaa, four years of this is a nightmare.

As big a theocrat Gov. Pence is, at least he understands how government is supposed to work.

Perhaps an asteroid can fix this.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:43:54pm

re: #110 goddamnedfrank

I like it because it’s as close as you can legally get to a sawed off shotgun and looks pretty intimidating despite how impractical it is. I also upgraded the ignition system from percussion caps to #209 primers. It goes boom with authority and when empty you just reverse it and swing that grip cap into whatever is still standing.

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William Lewis  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:44:54pm

Thinking about Trump, i note that today’s Google Doodle honors the birthday of Steven Biko.

Peter Gabriel Biko Live 1986

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:44:55pm

re: #111 austin_blue

I dunno. I may never speak again after January 20th, if the meteor doesn’t strike.

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austin_blue  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:45:00pm

re: #110 goddamnedfrank

It’s a side-by-side 20 gauge muzzle stuffer. I got it from Cabellas something like seven years ago when they were a lot cheaper.

Ah, an excellent riverboat gambling “under the table” gun, then. Percussion caps, I assume?

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:47:47pm

re: #116 austin_blue

Ah, an excellent riverboat gambling “under the table” gun, then. Percussion caps, I assume?

It’s ridiculous but never fails to draw a crowd at the range. Bonus points: it lays down quite a smoke screen.

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Anymouse  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:49:59pm

Ivanka Trump Will Not Fix Women’s Issues; She Will Distract from Them (goes to Elle Magazine)

It starts (but the whole thing is very good):

For those of us who overdosed on Disney princess memorabilia growing up, good news: Thanks to Donald Trump and his legion of terrifying yet well-coiffed children, Americans are now closer to living in a monarchy than we have been since 1776. And Ivanka Trump—blond, pretty, well-mannered, given massive amounts of power over the citizenry thanks to nothing but her genetic makeup—is the closest thing we’ll get to a princess. Which is how we’ll all get to find out: Princesses are terrifying.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:51:01pm

re: #111 austin_blue

Probably so. Books will be written about the dysfunction of this family and Trump’s administration, if we are still capable of printing books in its aftermath.

There is a distinct possibility that we will revert to an oral tradition until the background radiation decreases to the point that we can recreate an industrial society again.

Good times!

Sorta like this?

Mad Max 3 Beyond Thunderdome Ending

Good times, indeed.

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austin_blue  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:52:06pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

It’s ridiculous but never fails to draw a crowd at the range. Bonus points: it lays down quite a smoke screen.

Saw your #113. Sounds like you should wear a bowling glove/brace before firing the damn thing thing.

There’s a Big Lebowski reference somewhere in there…

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William Lewis  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:54:27pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

I like it because it’s as close as you can legally get to a sawed off shotgun and looks pretty intimidating despite how impractical it is. I also upgraded the ignition system from percussion caps to #209 primers. It goes boom with authority and when empty you just reverse it and swing that grip cap into whatever is still standing.

Well, a tax stamp will get you one depending on your state’s laws. I’ve considered a SBS on occasion…

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austin_blue  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:54:40pm

re: #119 Dr Lizardo

Sorta like this?

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Video

Good times, indeed.

I prefer A Boy And His Dog. Brilliant film.

Fuck Quilla June. A boy loves his dog.

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2016 • 11:57:21pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

That’s an *old* gun.

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austin_blue  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:01:17am

re: #123 teleskiguy

That’s an *old* gun.

Well, it’s certainly an old STYLE gun.

At 3:30 we were at 78 degrees. An hour ago we were at thirty one, with a 20 degree wind chill. Impressive Calgary Express.

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:04:00am

re: #124 austin_blue

At 3:30 we were at 78 degrees. An hour ago we were at thirty one, with a 20 degree wind chill. Impressive Calgary Express.

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austin_blue  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:13:40am

re: #125 teleskiguy

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Yup. it’s impressive indeed. How’s the high country doing with snowfall in your neck of the woods? Is A-basin going to be good this month?

(My favorite hill.)

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:17:51am

re: #126 austin_blue

Yup. it’s impressive indeed. How’s the high country doing with snowfall in your neck of the woods? Is A-basin going to be good this month?

(My favorite hill.)

This last storm was a good bounty, covered up all the shit on greens, blues, and some blacks in one fell swoop. Two feet plus was not uncommon in a lot of places. A-Basin has opened Pallavicini and a good lot of the lower East Wall. Ought to be good skiing for the holidays.

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austin_blue  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:27:32am

re: #127 teleskiguy

This last storm was a good bounty, covered up all the shit on greens, blues, and some blacks in one fell swoop. Two feet plus was not uncommon in a lot of places. A-Basin has opened Pallavicini and a good lot of the lower East Wall. Ought to be good skiing for the holidays.

My dad was born and raised in Denver and A-basin was his favorite hill. The drop from the top of the hill was a screaming meemie and the entrances to the tree runs were challenging/ deadly. I had a ski snag a covered branch in heavy powder when I was twelve (1968!) and the roto-mats didn’t pop and my right ankle was suddenly turned 145 degrees to the right.

Ow.

I was back on the a hill year later, with my uncles, dad was back for his second tour in the ‘nam.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:33:30am

re: #127 teleskiguy

This last storm was a good bounty, covered up all the shit on greens, blues, and some blacks in one fell swoop. Two feet plus was not uncommon in a lot of places. A-Basin has opened Pallavicini and a good lot of the lower East Wall. Ought to be good skiing for the holidays.

My Nephew has been to A-Basin the last few days.
Sez its been awesome

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austin_blue  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:40:30am

re: #129 Dave In Austin

My Nephew has been to A-Basin the last few days.
Sez its been awesome

What’s the temp out at Lake Travis? I’ve got 29 on the front porch.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:47:52am

Ire: #130 austin_blue

What’s the temp out at Lake Travis? I’ve got 29 on the front porch.

I’m seeing 25’ in Leander but we are actually out by Jonestown and down in a Holler where it’s generally a bit cooler. I’m at work right now over by the airport. and the BMS sez 29’. The wind is horrible.

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austin_blue  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:58:35am

re: #131 Dave In Austin

I

I’m seeing 25’ in Leander but we are actually out by Jonestown and down in a Holler where it’s generally a bit cooler. I’m at work right now over by the airport. and the BMS sez 29’. The wind is horrible.

Yeah, we just had a gust that had to be near to 40 mph. Heard some limbs going down in the ‘hood. Hell of a cold front blowing through.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:03:14am

I covered up plants before I left the house tonite and had to lay rocks all around the sheet to keep them on. The wood stove will be working overtime for the next week.

Winter has arrived in Centex.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:03:28am

It’s even 32.0F here in my Bay Area backyard. Brrrrr

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Dave In Austin  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:06:50am

re: #134 Single-handed sailor

It’s even 32.0F here in my Bay Area backyard. Brrrrr

Hope your plants are covered. That will take a toll on that coastal flora…

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Cheechako  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:10:50am

Heh…you’re colder than SE Alaska. 34F with light rain.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:52:11am

re: #105 austin_blue

I think you may be slightly missing the point. Any decision he makes is correct because it it his. He is the ultimate narcissist. He has surrounded himself with children who have been raised on his omnipotence (whether they believe it or not) to stroke the ego of a megalomaniac.

It is why he continues to hold them so close. They are the ultimate codependents and facilitators of his ego. They profit from it. The wives are just chaff.

It is really a horribly sick and totally fucked up family dynamic.

Welcome to the First Family, 2017 style.

I have to admit, I did not address the narcissism very well. You are correct. Trump is a dangerous man, because he believes he is always right, and because whoever last speaks to him can influence him (though he would not admit it). His three older kids have been raised as princelings (as we call such people in China) who believe they are entitled to whatever they want. Barron may be another of this type. Tiffany maybe not so much. She seems to be excluded from most of the family activities.

Trump is one of those people who trusts only his own family, especially his kids. Probably the wives are less trustworthy in his mind. That Ivanka will serve as First Lady rather than Melania says a lot.

I’d really hate to invited to any of their family gatherings. Good thing I’m safe.

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boredtechindenver  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:55:14am

re: #86 teleskiguy

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My governor at the Ogden Theater in Denver. That’s something else. They’ve classed up the joint quite a bit since the days I went there to see super-loud punk and metal bands. I saw GWAR on that very stage on Halloween, 1998.

I remember when it was an art movie theater. I saw the 5 hour Beatles movie that included all of their Shea Stadium concert. I went on a date to see “A Clockwork Orange” there in the mid 80s. I haven’t been there since it became a concert venue, though.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:13:19am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:38:28am

If I was as witty as I think I am, I could come with some great captions for this:

From: Still on the mend, Bei Bei the giant panda is growing up

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Timothy Watson  Dec 18, 2016 • 4:22:58am

Dammit, when did Steam get the original Rogue Squadron in its store? I played that game to death back in the day.

I was trying to play it on a N64 emulator about a year ago and couldn’t get it to work. :(

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jeffreyw  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:11:11am

Imgur


Alas, Bitsy turned out to be a wastebasket case.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:17:48am

re: #51 Cheechako

The Republican leash on Trump is so short, they will get him out of office within 1 1/2 years. Pence is their man all along.

Instead of impeachment, I am actually more inclined to believe Trump will “voluntarily resign” due to his business interests are more important to him. The actual reason is that Republicans will privately threaten him with Treason charges if he does not resign.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:20:46am

re: #143 Rocky-in-Connecticut

The Republican leash on Trump is so short, they will get him out of office within 1 1/2 years. Pence is their man all along.

Instead of impeachment, I am actually more inclined to believe Trump will “voluntarily resign” due to his business interests are more important to him. The actual reason is that Republicans will privately threaten him with Treason charges if he does not resign.

That thought is the most depressing bit of news that ever came out of 2016.

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Jayleia  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:25:17am

re: #143 Rocky-in-Connecticut

The Republican leash on Trump is so short, they will get him out of office within 1 1/2 years. Pence is their man all along.

Instead of impeachment, I am actually more inclined to believe Trump will “voluntarily resign” due to his business interests are more important to him. The actual reason is that Republicans will privately threaten him with Treason charges if he does not resign.

Not going to happen. He’s in the big chair now. Now people finally HAVE to respect him, quitting that means that all those losers and haters were right all along…

I don’t think any threat the Republicans make will be accepted…unless they have dead-girl/live boy stuff on Trump, and even then, I have doubts. Treason wouldn’t make Trump flinch…look at the crowd he has now.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:25:30am

Trump’s election is rediculously unpresidented.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:25:34am

re: #143 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Given his penchant for inciting international incidents by using Twitter, he may not last three months. Trump is an albatross around the GOP’s neck. They need to dump him pronto if they hope of ever winning another election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:26:21am

re: #147 wheat-dogg

Given his penchant for inciting international incidents by using Twitter, he may not last three months. Trump is an albatross around the GOP’s neck. They need to dump him pronto if they hope of ever winning another election.

They forget that Trump supporters hate the GOP nearly as much as they hate the Democrats and voted for him to spite both parties.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:26:25am

re: #143 Rocky-in-Connecticut

The Republican leash on Trump is so short, they will get him out of office within 1 1/2 years. Pence is their man all along.

Instead of impeachment, I am actually more inclined to believe Trump will “voluntarily resign” due to his business interests are more important to him. The actual reason is that Republicans will privately threaten him with Treason charges if he does not resign.

They privately threaten him, he will publicly shame them on Twitter.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:26:40am

re: #145 Jayleia

Not going to happen. He’s in the big chair now. Now people finally HAVE to respect him, quitting that means that all those losers and haters were right all along…

I don’t think any threat the Republicans make will be accepted…unless they have dead-girl/live boy stuff on Trump, and even then, I have doubts. Treason wouldn’t make Trump flinch…look at the crowd he has now.

He hasn’t packed the Supreme Court yet.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:27:12am

The GOP must be forced to carry Trump full-term.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:31:00am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They forget that Trump supporters hate the GOP nearly as much as they hate the Democrats and voted for him to spite both parties.

Sure, but they don’t know that, and the ones who have been in office forever (McConnell, for example) will be re-elected regardless of who runs against them. Trump’s support comes from a disparate, largely disorganized group of soreheads. I don’t see them capable of organizing an anti-GOP faction fast enough to save Trump from being removed from office.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:31:52am

re: #151 GlutenFreeJesus

The GOP must be forced to carry Trump full-term.

Speaking of which, it’s morning in NYC. Has the baby awakened to remark on Alec Baldwin and SNL yet?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:34:37am

re: #152 wheat-dogg

Sure, but they don’t know that, and the ones who have been in office forever (McConnell, for example) will be re-elected regardless of who runs against them. Trump’s support comes from a disparate, largely disorganized group of soreheads. I don’t see them capable of organizing an anti-GOP faction fast enough to save Trump from being removed from office.

Only that their rage will become more focused on the GOP than on the Democrats for a while

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Jayleia  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:35:08am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They forget that Trump supporters hate the GOP nearly as much as they hate the Democrats and voted for him to spite both parties.

I disagree, he’s basically the GOP wet dream as far as policy (grift, screw the poor, supply side, anti-environment, and Cleek’s Law) cranked to 11 except with no verbal filter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:41:09am

re: #155 Jayleia

I disagree, he’s basically the GOP wet dream as far as policy (grift, screw the poor, supply side, anti-environment, and Cleek’s Law) cranked to 11 except with no verbal filter.

The GOP supports a lot of his ideas, but they are aware that they he is a major loose cannon, and his twitter feed could turn into a death ray. So far he has managed to get away with things that no politician has gotten away with before, but there is no telling when his lucky streak will run out.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:51:09am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP supports a lot of his ideas, but they are aware that they he is a major loose cannon, and his twitter feed could turn into a death ray. So far he has managed to get away with things that no politician has gotten away with before, but there is no telling when his lucky streak will run out.

His legitimacy is hanging by a thread, given the emoluments clause, the GSA contract for the DC hotel, and his apparent refusal to separate himself from his business empire. Interfering with longstanding foreign policy via Twitter is another nail in his coffin.

His Twitter feed is quiet so far. I suspect his handlers have seized his phone for a bit.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2016 • 5:56:00am
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Jayleia  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:05:14am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think the GOP is riding a tiger. They created the necessary conditions for Trumpism, now they’re stuck working under Trumpism, or they likely lose their jobs next election, unless some enterprising second-amendment person jumps the gun.

re: #157 wheat-dogg

His legitimacy was in question long before, and we’ve gotten crickets from the GOP so far on any issue (we also have McConnell re: the Russian Connection). I have no doubt that the GOP leadership is terrified of what Trump will do next. I also have no doubt that they are terrified of what will happen to them if they cross him.

And the GOP leadership is full of Profiles in Courage.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:05:38am

re: #58 Stanley Sea

I do so love my country. And I’m pleased that Stephen Harper seems to have done much less damage than I feared.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:08:01am

re: #70 Stanley Sea

This is horrific. We have lost intelligence & common sense in trying to fight terror. You see a normal woman, she’s a normal woman. Following protocol is a cop out submission to fascism. I’m APPALLED. Watch the vid.

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Another DTW incident. Wonderful. I’m flying out of there to LAX next week.

Weird story: after we visited Russia in 2007 we had holographic Russian Federation visas in our passports and we got “secondary screening” IN EVERY FREAKING AIRPORT WE PASSED THROUGH SECURITY. This included not only DTW, but also Amsterdam, Frankfurt and of course our favorite Tel Aviv.

The special attention stopped when we got new passports that didn’t contain the RF visas.

Airport etiquette PSA: Tip the wheelchair pusher!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:13:30am

re: #157 wheat-dogg

His legitimacy is hanging by a thread, given the emoluments clause, the GSA contract for the DC hotel, and his apparent refusal to separate himself from his business empire. Interfering with longstanding foreign policy via Twitter is another nail in his coffin.

His Twitter feed is quiet so far. I suspect his handlers have seized his phone for a bit.

that is a very precedential move

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freetoken  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:14:39am

39F at Montgomery Field… a cold night on Winter’s eve eve…

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BigPapa  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:15:01am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a very precedential move

Quit attaching our dear leader.

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jeffreyw  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:19:08am

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Good morning!

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:25:14am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:32:38am

re: #166 wheat-dogg

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Fake account.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:34:20am

re: #96 Stanley Sea

That used to be classic Unix motd:

A large white man with beard arrives at your home bearings gifts. Avoid Him-he’s Commie.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:41:10am

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

It’s 20 degrees here at the Conspiracy Compound right now, which is damn cold for this neck of the woods (such as they are). My agents behind wingnut lines in Lubbock report that it is 10 there, with a low of possibly 4. There is even a chance of hitting the 0 mark for the first time since 1987.

Well, we said a certain place would freeze over before DT became president….. ;)

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:44:16am

Ugh. Why is it that the Juice that Trump surrounds himself with always fit the worst anti-Semitic stereotypes? Kushner, Mnuchin and now this guy:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:44:49am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:45:56am

re: #167 Timothy Watson

Fake account.

Have to troll them too. ;)

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BigPapa  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:49:15am

re: #171 GlutenFreeJesus

So well played. So much win.

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mmmirele  Dec 18, 2016 • 6:56:46am

re: #101 Anymouse

Our black car is now almost entirely white after two trips across Lake Bonneville (plus the trips over Donner Pass during salting during snowstorms).

Just one trip across Lake Bonneville and tonight I felt like I needed an hour soak to get the salt out. I can’t imagine what it would have been like to walk that distance with no modern conveniences like bathtubs.

When we get to the Mercedes-Benz dealer in Denver, the car will be given a well-deserved bubble bath by them.

I’m pretty sure your car is salted from the salt on the roads, not from Lake Bonneville. I crossed the salt flats going to Nevada and parts west when I lived in Utah (Wendover and casinos FTW) and never had a problem with salt. That’s because the salt in the salt flats is frozen into a crust. Environmentalists get unhappy if you step on the salt flats and crack the salt crust.

That said, there’s always been a ton of salt on the roads in the winter. When the I-15 was being reconstructed through Salt Lake City in preparation for the Olympics, water from the Great Salt Lake was put on the freeway in winter for deicing purposes…yuck.

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EmmaAnne  Dec 18, 2016 • 7:15:09am
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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 18, 2016 • 7:38:37am

Another day in America:
Arkansas 3-year-old fatally shot in road rage incident while shopping with grandmother

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — A 3-year-old boy being taken on a shopping trip by his grandmother was killed in a road rage shooting on Saturday when a driver opened fire on the grandmother’s car because he thought she “wasn’t moving fast enough at a stop sign,” police said.

A 2 year old girl was killed in a similar incident in Little Rock on November 22nd.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2016 • 7:48:10am
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makeitstop  Dec 18, 2016 • 7:50:02am

re: #177 darthstar

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That’s one of the weirdest cover versions I’ve ever heard, hands down.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2016 • 7:51:27am

re: #178 makeitstop

That’s one of the weirdest cover versions I’ve ever heard, hands down.

Sturgill Simpson”s good. Hear hiim on Outlaw Country quite a bit. Someone tweeted about this so I gave it a listen.

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:21:29am

re: #176 Shiplord Kirel

Another day in America:
Arkansas 3-year-old fatally shot in road rage incident while shopping with grandmother

A 2 year old girl was killed in a similar incident in Little Rock on November 22nd.

I heard that on the news this morning.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the actual reason for these shootings is not road rage. The explanation of what triggered the rage seems thin.

I think another rage may be behind this and the people saying it was road rage might be using it as a cover.

Yeah, I’m being cynical and disbelieving. So many recent public hate displays help lead my thinking. I sure hope I am wrong.

Oh yeah…good icy morning. I hate temperatures near 32°.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:24:26am

Just walked home from the gym. Came home and drank a whole liter of coffee as if it was just iced tea and I still feel like a corpsicle!

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:25:34am

Is Rick Santelli a Yoooouge asshole or not?

(Those watching Meat The Press will understand…ugh, what a mess this country is…)

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Timothy Watson  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:26:16am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Is Rick Santelli a Yoooouge asshole or not?

(Those watching Meat The Press will understand…ugh, what a mess this country is…)

Shocker, the founder of the tea party is an asshole?

///

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:27:29am

re: #183 Timothy Watson

Shocker, the founder of the tea party is an asshole?

///

This times a million.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:28:24am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Is Rick Santelli a Yoooouge asshole or not?

(Those watching Meat The Press will understand…ugh, what a mess this country is…)

This might make you feel better:

Steve Liesman Embarrasses Rick Santelli On CNBC

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:36:01am

re: #185 Timothy Watson

This might make you feel better:

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Video

Gonna take a whole lot to make me feel better! : |

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makeitstop  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:38:08am

It was in the 20s and snowing here yesterday at this time. Now it’s flirting with 50 degrees and all the snow is gone. It was actually warmer when I left my gig last night than it was when I got there.

I did get in a nice meal with a couple of bandmates before the show at a cool Colombian restaurant before the show and had a good time playing. So there’s that.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:45:55am

re: #187 makeitstop

Very similar to what is going on here in Philly. forecast.weather.gov

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:56:10am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:56:53am
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JasonA  Dec 18, 2016 • 8:58:07am

re: #189 Ace-o-aces

Sad, and infuriating, that so many Americans would misinterpret this.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:02:43am

MOAR PANDAS

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:14:13am

re: #190 Timothy Watson

I know I had to, but I hate reading that shit first thing in the morning.

:(

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:15:05am

re: #192 Timothy Watson

MOAR PANDAS

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OK, that helped. Thanks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:15:06am

re: #180 ObserverArt

I heard that on the news this morning.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say the actual reason for these shootings is not road rage. The explanation of what triggered the rage seems thin.

I think another rage may be behind this and the people saying it was road rage might be using it as a cover.

Yeah, I’m being cynical and disbelieving. So many recent public hate displays help lead my thinking. I sure hope I am wrong.

Oh yeah…good icy morning. I hate temperatures near 32°.

I’d suggest that it takes MORE cynicism to believe someone would open fire on someone else for such a stupid reason - cynicism in this case meaning a jaundiced view of humanity.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:16:31am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Is Rick Santelli a Yoooouge asshole or not?

(Those watching Meat The Press will understand…ugh, what a mess this country is…)

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:24:30am

This was an interesting Hillary skit SNL did last night. I thought some might like to see it if they didn’t catch the show.

Iframe

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:25:26am

Want to REALLY understand what a huge asshole Rick Santelli is? Remember what triggered his ‘Tea Party’ rant - the idea that the Obama Administration wanted to do something for all the folks who found themselves unable to pay the mortgages they’d taken out during the housing bubble, because then we’d be rewarding bad behavior.

He didn’t get upset when we bailed out the investment banks that created Collateralized Debt Obligation bonds, or Credit Default Swaps - the folks who pushed the world economy off the cliff.

No, he was upset by the idea that the regular folks, who AREN’T paid millions to understand economics and business and shit, had borrowed more than they could afford to pay, and Obama was going to mitigate the consequences of their mistake.

Why? Because the perception was that it was Those People who were responsible, and Those People had to be put back in their place.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:27:24am
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darthstar  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:28:09am

Natural causes?

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retired cynic  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:38:35am

Decorating for the holidays?

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:46:50am

re: #201 retired cynic

A Christmas scratching post?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:46:57am

Mostly packed. Hate Christmas travel. Wish me sanity as it is once more into the breach with the added bonus of my in-laws first. I have promised him I will not bring up politics and I am walking away if they try to start any discussion along those lines.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:47:07am

Global warming is a myth…or we got our annual day of frost.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:48:38am

re: #204 darthstar

Global warming is a myth…or we got our annual day of frost.

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You can see how the i started melting as I moved my finger too slowly. Frost doesn’t last long here.

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:52:47am

re: #166 wheat-dogg

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:52:57am

re: #203 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Mostly packed. Hate Christmas travel. Wish me sanity as it is once more into the breach with the added bonus of my in-laws first. I have promised him I will not bring up politics and I am walking away if they try to start any discussion along those lines.

Good plan… but on the way out, you might mention some of DT’s idiocies of the last few weeks. Surely there are some they’d find hard to defend. (I’m suggesting this as recreation, but it might also be food for thought, who knows?)

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Skip Intro  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:53:56am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:54:15am

re: #200 darthstar

Natural causes?

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Kinda, for critics of Putin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:54:26am

kind of hypnotic to watch, tbh…

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:54:54am

re: #206 Skip Intro

Hey, Kellyanne — never gonna happen. Think of DT as your personal albatross.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:55:18am

re: #207 Resistance Is Not Futile

Good plan… but on the way out, you might mention some of DT’s idiocies of the last few weeks. Surely there are some they’d find hard to defend. (I’m suggesting this as recreation, but it might also be food for thought, who knows?)

If I can’t walk away, I have a whole bunch of stuff lined up and ready to trot out. But his parents dismissed what just happened in NC as the “kind of thing that happens every transition” sooooooooooooo…

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:57:39am

Conservative circle-jerk interruptus.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:57:50am

re: #212 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If I can’t walk away, I have a whole bunch of stuff lined up and ready to trot out. But his parents dismissed what just happened in NC as the “kind of thing that happens every transition” sooooooooooooo…

“If it’s so common, name one where that happened.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 18, 2016 • 9:58:23am

On a more practical note, extended time release Mucinex and Sudafed both got added to the travel meds kit that I keep in my purse. Hoping for pain-free flights today (two legs) but I am prepared.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:00:40am

re: #215 klys (maker of Silmarils)

On a more practical note, extended time release Mucinex and Sudafed both got added to the travel meds kit that I keep in my purse. Hoping for pain-free flights today (two legs) but I am prepared.

Chewing gum ready to deploy?

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:02:14am
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darthstar  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:03:51am

re: #217 darthstar

Fuck it…the cat on the glowing stone doesn’t need the caption, funny as it was.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:05:44am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:08:10am

re: #216 Resistance Is Not Futile

Chewing gum ready to deploy?

…chocolate covered peppermint marshmellows are the same thing, right?

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:12:38am

re: #220 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…chocolate covered peppermint marshmellows are the same thing, right?

If you keep chewing…

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:18:06am

re: #176 Shiplord Kirel

More human sacrifices to water the Tree of Liberty.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:22:02am

re: #185 Timothy Watson

You can tell Santelli is a severe anger addict. This man mainlines dopamine, serotonin and adrenaline by the litre.

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retired cynic  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:24:49am

We could all have said this, and I bet there will be a lot more coming.

driftglass.blogspot.com

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:27:43am

re: #223 Romantic Heretic

You can tell Santelli is a severe anger addict. This man mainlines dopamine, serotonin and adrenaline by the litre.

He had what seemed to be permanently vertical furrowed anger brows above his glasses the whole time he was on Meat The Chuck today. The rest of his face could easily be considered Bitchy Resting Face. He seems like misery is his happiness.

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makeitstop  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:30:10am

New Yorker’s Amy Davidson has written a very good analysis of Obama’s last press conference.

Democrats dismayed by Hillary Clinton’s electoral-vote loss despite her popular-vote margin, and by the consensus that Russia was involved in hacking the e-mail systems of the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta, her campaign manager, might have hoped for a little more. Some of the people who thought, eight years ago, that Obama himself would be a silver bullet might have been, too. But, at the end of a week, and a political year, of uproar, his tone and his message in the press conference were the right ones, and sanity-affirming. Saying that the Democrats need to be “showing up in places where I think Democratic policies are needed, where they are helping, where they are making a difference, but where people feel as if they’re not being heard” may be less satisfying than repeating that Clinton was robbed by Vladimir Putin. But it likely offers a better route for the Democrats to overcome Donald Trump.

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A Cranky One  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:44:58am

Ha.
Christmas on Hoth

But, but, they were good!

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A Cranky One  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:53:36am

Got my granddaughter a bike for Christmas. Just found out it’s too small. Guess I’ll be getting a different one.

Was going to return the first bike, but changed my mind. Going to donate it to Toys 4 Tots. Hoping it will give joy to a kid who could use some.

I think we can all use a little joy right now.

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 10:55:31am

re: #228 A Cranky One

Got my granddaughter a bike for Christmas. Just found out it’s too small. Guess I’ll be getting a different one.

Was going to return the first bike, but changed my mind. Going to donate it to Toys 4 Tots. Hoping it will give joy to a kid who could use some.

I think we can all use a little joy right now.

You just made some little kid’s Christmas. Good on you!

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William Lewis  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:03:06am

re: #228 A Cranky One

Got my granddaughter a bike for Christmas. Just found out it’s too small. Guess I’ll be getting a different one.

Was going to return the first bike, but changed my mind. Going to donate it to Toys 4 Tots. Hoping it will give joy to a kid who could use some.

I think we can all use a little joy right now.

Good for you for thinking of some other child as well.

That makes my day better after learning one of our parishioners died suddenly on the 12th. Natural causes, unexpected and only 44. He’d been in a go-cart accident at 16 and was the proverbial simple & gentle kind of guy after that. Requiescat in pace, Eric.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:09:40am
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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:15:24am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I don’t know if I ever took Mike Huckabee seriously.

Seriously.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:18:40am

Dang. Philly now has some very strong winds moving through. We are also supposed to be getting rain and colder temps. :(

forecast.weather.gov

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:25:59am

I heard something after the election that didn’t really sink in until today - in the Rust Belt, “counties that swung most toward Trump” correlates significantly with “counties with the greatest increase in heroin/opiate deaths”.

As I thought about it, that made sense. I’ve said before that the people in those towns where the little factory shut down and with it a lot of the hope for the future are the ones most vulnerable to promises to bring back the past, as Trump promised. And what’s one of the leading causes of addiction? Loss of hope.

Josh Marshall, months ago, made the point that the people most susceptible to Trump’s message are the people whose lives depended most on white privilege, though they never knew it. When manufacturing left the big cities of the North East and Midwest, it disproportionately impacted blacks, who tend to be more urban. And the white folks in the little towns with the little factories saw the despair that followed that, and the drug problems that followed THAT, and felt superior - “Those black people,” they thought, “are just morally inferior! That’s why they all use drugs!”

Well, now the little factories have left the little towns, and what do you suppose happened to those white people? Despair, and with it drug addiction.

Clinton’s message, that we’re all in this together and we’re stronger if we work together, is right. Now white folks who had felt superior to Those People find themselves in the same boat. And only if we ALL work together can we fix the problems.

But Trump’s message - that you’re still better than Those People, and that it’s Mexico’s fault, and China’s fault, and The Elites’ fault, and that all we have to do is bring back the past is easier, and thus more attractive. If you’re offered “If we work together, it’ll be hard, but the future will be brighter” is more honest, but far less seductive than “I’ll fix everything for you so it will be like it was!”

It also explains why the message did NOT resonate outside of white people - they were all too acquainted with the despair, and knew that easy fixes weren’t possible, and the past they remembered was not really attractive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:26:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:31:42am
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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:33:15am

re: #233 PhillyPretzel

Dang. Philly now has some very strong winds moving through. We are also supposed to be getting rain and colder temps. :(

forecast.weather.gov

Good Luck! Sounds like you’re getting what has been through central Ohio since Friday night. It sure has caused havoc on the roads…nationwide. For those on the line of warm and cold it has been really really bad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:35:19am

re: #237 ObserverArt

The thunderstorms started rolling in here at the Backwoods just after midnight. We woke up to almost 3 inches of rain in the gauge.
Then it started sleeting and snowing.
Just an all round yucky day now.

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:45:31am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

With the perspective provided by time and ectoplasmic existence, I should point out that I was largely in the purse of the oat and carrot lobbies.

Neigh.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:47:17am

This story is full of bad, crazy facts.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:50:56am

re: #240 Stanley Sea

I have no doubt that this is a very sad situation. Is there a way I can read the article without a little pop-up box telling me that I have 9 more articles that I can read for free?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 11:51:10am

re: #240 Stanley Sea

This story is full of bad, crazy facts.

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Just amazing how this didn’t become a “national crisis” until it impacted white communities, isn’t it?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:04:54pm

The thing is, though, that when people talk about ‘The System’. they mean ‘forces beyond individual control’, which is perfectly freakin’ accurate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:09:06pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just amazing how this didn’t become a “national crisis” until it impacted white communities, isn’t it?

“Legal” drug abuse does not count.

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MsJ  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:14:57pm

re: #240 Stanley Sea

That is a devastating article. Sad doesn’t cover it. Holy cow.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:17:11pm

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Legal” drug abuse does not count.

It turns illegal when the addicts discover that heroin is cheaper than oxycontin. That was the thing that surprised me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:18:09pm

re: #245 MsJ

That is a devastating article. Sad doesn’t cover it. Holy cow.

The unfettered shipments amount to 433 pain pills for every man, woman and child in West Virginia.

Medical care not just about selling products. It is about treating conditions and improving the health of the population.

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retired cynic  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:20:10pm

re: #245 MsJ

That is a devastating article. Sad doesn’t cover it. Holy cow.

The results are horrifying for the people who become addicted, and those who die, and their families. It is also rough on the people who need painkiller to manage their pain, and who can no longer get it reliably because of the worry of addiction.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:21:33pm

re: #246 Blind Frog Belly White

It turns illegal when the addicts discover that heroin is cheaper than oxycontin. That was the thing that surprised me.

Heroin made a huge comeback in Kentucky when our AG and law enforcement started shutting down the pill mills.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:21:55pm

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The unfettered shipments amount to 433 pain pills for every man, woman and child in West Virginia.

Medical care not just about selling products. It is about treating conditions and improving the health of the population.

The Pain Management pendulum swung from “Suck it up, walk it off” to “Here, take this!”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:27:43pm

re: #250 Blind Frog Belly White

The Pain Management pendulum swung from “Suck it up, walk it off” to “Here, take this!”.

My girlfriend’s cousin in a pain management doctor in Texas. She says he just bought himself a new 16,000 sq. ft. house.

You see: Obamacare might mean that our pain management professionals can only afford themselves a 11,000 sq. ft. hovel!

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:28:33pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

Heroin made a huge comeback in Kentucky when our AG and law enforcement started shutting down the pill mills.

That is the same with much of the poorer communities in Ohio. Heroin is cheaper than the scripts. And they claim the heroin is more pure than ever causing big problems.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:29:58pm

re: #248 retired cynic

The results are horrifying for the people who become addicted, and those who die, and their families. It is also rough on the people who need painkiller to manage their pain, and who can no longer get it reliably because of the worry of addiction.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:30:45pm

re: #200 darthstar

Coming to our shores very soon, except in full public view thanks to Trump-enabled Police and various random 2nd Amendment “solutions” threatened over and over during the last few years by Trump goons.

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:31:25pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

Best and hardest decision I ever made was to decline opiates ten years ago for a chronic injury.

I can compare where I am today to several of my kin who were convinced to take “non-addictive” opiate formulations. A lot of folks I know who started on hydrocodone didn’t understand they were experiencing opiate abuse symptoms—and withdrawal—until it was too late. And they weren’t given any other options for pain care, and especially not any cheap one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:31:44pm

re: #254 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Coming to our shores very soon, except in full public view thanks to Trump-enabled Police and various random 2nd Amendment “solutions” threatened over and over during the last few years by Trump goons.

Lotsa of Zimmermanns all over again…

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:33:19pm

Kellyanne Riefenstahl hates cats?

That tells me everything I already knew.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:35:29pm

re: #248 retired cynic

The results are horrifying for the people who become addicted, and those who die, and their families. It is also rough on the people who need painkiller to manage their pain, and who can no longer get it reliably because of the worry of addiction.

My wife is in that category. She has a chronic condition for which there is no cure. In some cases she has had to go to 4 pharmacies to get her script filled because the 3 others either didn’t have it in stock or don’t stock opioids at all.

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:36:05pm

re: #255 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

Best and hardest decision I ever made was to decline opiates ten years ago for a chronic injury.

I can compare where I am today to several of my kin who were convinced to take “non-addictive” opiate formulations. A lot of folks I know who started on hydrocodone didn’t understand they were experiencing opiate abuse symptoms—and withdrawal—until it was too late. And they weren’t given any other options for pain care, and especially not any cheap one.

Chronic pain management is very difficult. I can only hope there’s a lot of basic research going into improvements. My mom had chronic pain issues and a lousy reaction to opiods (which appears to be familial. I don’t handle them well either.)

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The Ghost of Senator Incatatus  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:36:34pm

re: #252 ObserverArt

That is the same with much of the poorer communities in Ohio. Heroin is cheaper than the scripts. And they claim the heroin is more pure than ever causing big problems.

Lately there’s been a problem with heroin cut with other opioids to bump up its strength—but specifically with the very potent fentanyl. There’s a rash of fatal overdoses because of it.

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:38:28pm

re: #260 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

Lately there’s been a problem with heroin cut with other opioids to bump up its strength—but specifically with the very potent fentanyl. There’s a rash of fatal overdoses because of it.

Also carfentanil. Otherwise known as elephant tranquilizer. Need I say it kills people?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:39:59pm

re: #260 The Ghost of Senator Incatatus

Lately there’s been a problem with heroin cut with other opioids to bump up its strength—but specifically with the very potent fentanyl. There’s a rash of fatal overdoses because of it.

That’s the problem here in New Hampshire. Fentanyl. I think we’re past the stage of pill-to-heroin addiction. Now people just go straight to heroin—and then get something cut with fentanyl. The sad thing is that when they get revived by cops or EMS techs, even if they still have a needle in their arms, the first thing they do is deny using.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:41:19pm

re: #254 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Coming to our shores very soon, except in full public view thanks to Trump-enabled Police and various random 2nd Amendment “solutions” threatened over and over during the last few years by Trump goons.

And away we go

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Charles Johnson  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:42:03pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:42:55pm

re: #263 Stanley Sea

I really hate police unions…and I’m generally a pro union guy.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:43:02pm

re: #263 Stanley Sea

Link won’t open. Must be bad that etc.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:43:48pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

They are. They’ll get even worse after 1/20/17.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:48:24pm

Empowered.

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William Lewis  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:49:44pm

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:51:40pm

re: #262 Barefoot Grin

That’s the problem here in New Hampshire. Fentanyl. I think we’re past the stage of pill-to-heroin addiction. Now people just go straight to heroin—and then get something cut with fentanyl. The sad thing is that when they get revived by cops or EMS techs, even if they still have a needle in their arms, the first thing they do is deny using.

Because “moral failing” rather than “medical problem.” No one wants to be seen as a junkie.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:51:41pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:53:00pm

Apparently, Palestinians have given up on the two state solution. They don’t think it will happen.

PSR reported a sharp increase in the number of respondents who stated that they believed the two-state solution was no longer viable, jumping from 56 percent three months ago to 65 percent now, with only 31 percent remaining confident that it was still feasible. A further 62 percent said they supported abandoning the Oslo Accords.

This is what happens when you keep taking land and kicking people out of their houses, making Palestinian Territory smaller and more fragmented.

Israel painted itself into a corner. I wonder if they can get out.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:54:22pm

re: #272 Ziggy_TARDIS

Not to mention the Israeli Government pushing Arabs out of East Jerusalem.

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:54:31pm

re: #269 William Lewis

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:54:55pm

re: #270 calochortus

Because “moral failing” rather than “medical problem.” No one wants to be seen as a junkie.

Yep. And there are a lot of “live Free or Die” folks who think Narcan just enables the users—“let em die; they’re just using taxpayer money.” I’m serious.

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retired cynic  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:57:21pm

re: #253 The Vicious Babushka

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:59:05pm

re: #275 Barefoot Grin

Yep. And there are a lot of “live Free of Die” folks who think Narcan just enables the users—“let em die; they’re just using taxpayer money.” I’m serious.

Oh, I believe you. And I don’t get it. But that’s just me. I don’t think a junkie desperate for a fix is thinking about the availability of Narcan. Also, I hear it’s no fun to have it administered.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 12:59:35pm

BTW, the comments on that Tom Nichols tweet restore my lack of faith in modern Conservatives. Nothing is ever forces beyond your control. It’s always your choices. Apparently, you choose to have the factory move out of your town.

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:01:12pm

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

BTW, the comments on that Tom Nichols tweet restore my lack of faith in modern Conservatives. Nothing is ever forces beyond your control. It’s always your choices. Apparently, you choose to have the factory move out of your town.

Sure, you and your plucky coworkers could just buy out Giant Mega Corp, inc. And run it at a profit yourselves. Especially if it is a bootstrap manufacturing company.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:02:44pm

re: #277 calochortus

Oh, I believe you. And I don’t get it. But that’s just me. I don’t think a junkie desperate for a fix is thinking about the availability of Narcan. Also, I hear it’s no fun to have it administered.

The sad bright spot is that I’ve noticed comments softening somewhat as more people have family or friends impacted by the spread of addiction here. I think we’re number 3 per capita for fatalities this year. Slowly—but more people are awakening to your point of addiction being a medical issue and not a moral failing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:02:53pm

re: #279 calochortus

Sure, you and your plucky coworkers could just buy out Giant Mega Corp, inc. And run it at a profit yourselves. Especially if it is a bootstrap manufacturing company.

It’s a reminder that the enemy of your enemy might just be yet another enemy.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:03:24pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

Get ready for when everything inevitably collapses around the Branch Trumpidian Cult. They have no idea just how ugly it’s going to get right from the start.

Jim Jones would no doubt be envious of the gullibility of these fools.

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:07:38pm

re: #280 Barefoot Grin

The sad bright spot is that I’ve noticed comments softening somewhat as more people have family or friends impacted by the spread of addiction here. I think we’re number 3 per capita for fatalities this year. Slowly—but more people are awakening to your point of addiction being a medical issue and not a moral failing.

That’s some kind of progress, at least.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:09:36pm

re: #281 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s a reminder that the enemy of your enemy might just be yet another enemy.

Kind of how Deadbeat Joe Walsh ripped into Hannity in a public forum yesterday. I am entertained by that godddam wingnut slowly losing it as worthy karma, but really wouldn’t bother to give him the time of day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:10:54pm

jeebus…

link to that letter to the editor page

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:14:43pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

To be fair that’s a letter to the Editor and not a statement made by the paper, but it probanly shouldn’t have been published.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:17:27pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…

link to that letter to the editor page

Is quality control totally dead now? Allowing that bullshit is inexcusable.

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:18:18pm

re: #261 calochortus

Also carfentanil. Otherwise known as elephant tranquilizer. Need I say it kills people?

I had heard about the animal tranquilizer in Ohio too. My one brother mentioned it was in my old home town. I never knew the name of the drug. Going to look into that.

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:19:59pm

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hate police unions…and I’m generally a pro union guy.

I like unions too. I don’t like gangs. /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:21:13pm

re: #286 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #287 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Mr. Duddy is apparently a fairly prolific letter to the editor writer and they are all as unhinged as that one. At least what ones I found doing a google search on him. He appears to be a very unhappy person.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:21:29pm

re: #287 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Is quality control totally dead now? Allowing that bullshit is inexcusable.

You’re assuming it was a mistake…

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calochortus  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:25:36pm

I heard something interesting on the radio the other day-the general thesis was that a diverse society does better economically than a homogeneous one, but a homogeneous society, not surprisingly, has closer social ties.
The thing is that who is “us” and who isn’t changes over time, the example being the history of the US. The English came over and they were “us.” Then the Dutch showed up and they were “them,” but then the Germans came along, and well, we’d been living with the Dutch for long enough that they became “us.” The part of “them” was played by the Germans, until the Irish came along, and the Italians, etc. At which point the Germans (with a brief pause for the World Wars) became “us” and we even invented the concept of Anglo-Saxon to take in all these nice northern Europeans. And so forth.

I think this concept can be expanded to include LGBT people, drug addicts, and just about anyone else as we begin to see them in our own families. “Us” isn’t just a matter of nationality, religion, or skin color.

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scottslemmons  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:25:53pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mr. Duddy is apparently a fairly prolific letter to the editor writer and they are all as unhinged as that one. At least what ones I found doing a google search on him. He appears to be a very unhappy person.

I wish these nihilist bastards’d had the decency to commit suicide decades ago. It’s too late to exterminate them now. >:(

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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:28:03pm

re: #279 calochortus

Sure, you and your plucky coworkers could just buy out Giant Mega Corp, inc. And run it at a profit yourselves. Especially if it is a bootstrap manufacturing company.

No problem. All the employees have to do is get their parents to lend them $250,000 to, you know, get a start. Per Mitt Romney. And hey…corporations are people too!

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 18, 2016 • 1:53:28pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 18, 2016 • 2:10:52pm

re: #295 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Holy crap!

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MsJ  Dec 18, 2016 • 3:15:35pm

re: #257 Pawn of the Oppressor

Kellyanne Riefenstahl hates cats?

That tells me everything I already knew.

Trump is not an animal lover. That tells me everything I need to know.


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