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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 11:47:25am
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jaunte  May 20, 2017 • 11:52:03am
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Joe Bacon  May 20, 2017 • 11:53:24am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey! Where’s Hucky Boo Boo?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 11:55:18am

re: #3 Joe Bacon

Hey! Where’s Hucky Boo Boo?

over in the women’s quarters probably.

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goddamnedfrank  May 20, 2017 • 11:58:03am
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 20, 2017 • 12:02:45pm

The reason you get a necklace is to make you bow in order to put it on.

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ObserverArt  May 20, 2017 • 12:04:23pm

Was playing some YouTube music and saw this. New Puddles the Clown. Now doing Pink Floyd. Puddles has pipes! Thought you’d all like it.

Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd cover (in a coffee shop) - Puddles Pity Party

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 12:05:27pm

Other details of the package, though, have been somewhat shrouded in mystery—Congress, which will have to approve any new arms deal, has to yet to be notified of specific offerings—but it is said to include planes, armored vehicles, warships, and, perhaps most notably, precision-guided bombs.

It’s that last detail in particular that is making many in Washington sweat. The Obama administration inked arms deals with the kingdom worth more than $100 billion over two terms, but it changed course in its last months. As Mother Jones has regularly reported, the Saudi-led war against the Houthi armed group in Yemen has been fueled in part by American weapons, intelligence, and aerial refueling, and it has repeatedly hit civilian targets, including schools, marketplaces, weddings, hospitals, and places of worship. Civilian deaths are estimated to have reached 10,000, with 40,000 injured. In response, the Obama White House suspended a sale of precision-guided bombs to the country in December.

But now, despite the kingdom’s track record, President Trump is aiming to revive the deal. “Lifting the suspension on precision-guided munitions is a big deal,” says William Hartung, the director of the Arms and Security Project at the Center for International Policy. “It’s a huge impact if it reinforces the Saudi bombing campaign in Yemen, and also the signal that it’s okay with us. It’s saying, ‘Have at it. Do what you want.’”

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blueraven  May 20, 2017 • 12:06:16pm

Oh dear Lord…make it stop.

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Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2017 • 12:08:03pm

re: #9 blueraven

Oh dear Lord…make it stop.

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Something that stupid deserves this:

Billy Madison - Ultimate Insult (Academic Decathlon)[Forum Weapon][How To Troll][Ignorance Is Bliss]

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FormerDirtDart  May 20, 2017 • 12:14:30pm

re: #9 blueraven

Oh dear Lord…make it stop.

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Charles Johnson  May 20, 2017 • 12:15:44pm

These fucking assholes keep preying on liberals’ hopes with this bullshit.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 12:17:42pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

These fucking assholes keep preying on liberals’ hopes with this bullshit.

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I’m starting to feel the jadedness set in now. I’ll believe it when I see the actual Articles of Impeachment with the seal of the House of Representatives on them, not a minute before.

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lawhawk  May 20, 2017 • 12:23:00pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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ObserverArt  May 20, 2017 • 12:24:26pm

The wild wild internet. Believe at your own risk. Every person for themselves.

Makes for lovely politics and overall cohesiveness.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 12:24:29pm

re: #14 lawhawk

I was a bit young the last time a President was formally impeached (Bill Clinton would have been when I was 12). What exactly would it look like?

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makeitstop  May 20, 2017 • 12:27:06pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

I’m starting to feel the jadedness set in now. I’ll believe it when I see the actual Articles of Impeachment with the seal of the House of Representatives on them, not a minute before.

To me, that’s the default position that must be taken.

It’s almost a cliche at this point, but we’re in uncharted territory with this presidency. There are so many variables, things could break 50 different ways from where we are now. We could end up anywhere from a ‘clean’ resignation to surrogates going to prison and Trump walking, to Trump attempting a totally illegal crackdown on the press and law enforcement.

The reality is weird enough without people spinning fairy tales for the sake of confirmation bias.

(And yes, I’ve followed Taylor, but I cast a much more skeptical eye on his stuff than I used to.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 12:29:27pm

re: #16 thedopefishlives

I was a bit young the last time a President was formally impeached (Bill Clinton would have been when I was 12). What exactly would it look like?

In Clinton’s case, it looked like GOP desperation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 12:30:20pm
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lawhawk  May 20, 2017 • 12:30:27pm

re: #16 thedopefishlives

Impeachment starts in the House, where either the Rules Committee or Judiciary Committee get first crack (depending on whether they need separate investigation or are basing on other factors). They have to draft articles, vote that out of committee, and then the House votes on it.

Only then does the Senate get involved, let alone the Supreme Court Chief Justice, who presides over the matter.

It’s abundantly clear that Mensch and Taylor haven’t got a clue how impeachment actually works.

They didn’t even bother to check wikipedia before spewing their nonsense.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 20, 2017 • 12:31:53pm

re: #20 lawhawk

Impeachment starts in the House, where either the Rules Committee or Judiciary Committee get first crack (depending on whether they need separate investigation or are basing on other factors). They have to draft articles, vote that out of committee, and then the House votes on it.

Only then does the Senate get involved, let alone the Supreme Court Chief Justice, who presides over the matter.

It’s abundantly clear that Mensch and Taylor haven’t got a clue how impeachment actually works.

The saddest thing is that could look it up in about ten minutes.

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Timothy Watson  May 20, 2017 • 12:32:44pm

re: #20 lawhawk

Impeachment starts in the House, where either the Rules Committee or Judiciary Committee get first crack (depending on whether they need separate investigation or are basing on other factors). They have to draft articles, vote that out of committee, and then the House votes on it.

Only then does the Senate get involved, let alone the Supreme Court Chief Justice, who presides over the matter.

It’s abundantly clear that Mensch and Taylor haven’t got a clue how impeachment actually works.

Or any aspect of American government after their ‘FISA Court has indicted Trump’ bullshit last week.

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Charles Johnson  May 20, 2017 • 12:35:53pm

re: #20 lawhawk

Impeachment starts in the House, where either the Rules Committee or Judiciary Committee get first crack (depending on whether they need separate investigation or are basing on other factors). They have to draft articles, vote that out of committee, and then the House votes on it.

Only then does the Senate get involved, let alone the Supreme Court Chief Justice, who presides over the matter.

It’s abundantly clear that Mensch and Taylor haven’t got a clue how impeachment actually works.

They didn’t even bother to check wikipedia before spewing their nonsense.

I think somebody in the Trump administration may be deliberately feeding them this crap, to discredit them and any other liberal sources who cite them.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 20, 2017 • 12:36:43pm

re: #7 ObserverArt

Nice find!

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lawhawk  May 20, 2017 • 12:38:17pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

That’s plausible, even though the Admin doesn’t exactly exude competency to pull off a misinformation campaign like this.

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Besides, anyone who knows how an impeachment process (or reads the US Constitution) knows that what they’re positing doesn’t make the slightest bit of sense. It’s an attempt to lure and fool the gullible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 12:40:01pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I think somebody in the Trump administration may be deliberately feeding them this crap, to discredit them and any other liberal sources who cite them.

Louise is not and never has been a liberal. Why some liberals hang onto her every ridiculous scoop is a mystery to me.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 20, 2017 • 12:40:04pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

These fucking assholes keep preying on liberals’ hopes with this bullshit.

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Gonna see a lot of this.

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makeitstop  May 20, 2017 • 12:41:00pm

re: #25 lawhawk

That’s plausible, even though the Admin doesn’t exactly exude competency to pull off a misinformation campaign like this.

They may have farmed it out to a more competent party (waves to Fancy Bear).

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JordanRules  May 20, 2017 • 12:42:22pm
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jaunte  May 20, 2017 • 1:01:37pm

re: #28 makeitstop

They may have farmed it out to a more competent party (waves to Fancy Bear).

It’s certain the Russians are still here and still active. Look how much they’ve gained for so little cost.

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 1:06:46pm

I find the dove, oriole, blackbird, bluejay, woodpecker, and occasional cardinal, gang much more engaging than the Twitterers:

Cornell Feeders at Sapsucker Woods

Notice that the hooman didn’t put new food out today, and the birds are quickly eating what remains.

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 1:07:22pm

Tweeters, not twitters.

That is my motto.

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Dizzy  May 20, 2017 • 1:19:45pm

PM Trudeau “photobomb jogging” prom goers

Now THAT’s a scandal! :-)

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Charles Johnson  May 20, 2017 • 1:23:25pm
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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 1:24:22pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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By that logic, they “had to respect” President Obama. Let them choke on that thought.

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Charles Johnson  May 20, 2017 • 1:27:42pm
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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 1:31:44pm

After 4 hours of feeding, you can tell what the birds like.

Before:

After:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 1:32:07pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 20, 2017 • 1:38:46pm

re: #29 JordanRules

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Hey, but something they said turned out to be something like true, once!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 1:39:30pm
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 20, 2017 • 1:40:26pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I think somebody in the Trump administration may be deliberately feeding them this crap, to discredit them and any other liberal sources who cite them.

I always believed somebody from the George W. Bush campaign gave Dan Rather that infamous letter (that you exposed as a fraud) hoping he would take the bait and run with it, and ultimately discredit himself and the part of the opposition that was making a lot of hay over Bush’s brief ANG service.

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Birth Control Works  May 20, 2017 • 1:43:21pm

So much has been happening, I can’t keep up on every little thing.

In early 2017, Lieberman introduced Pres.-elect Donald Trump’s nominee as Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos to the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension committee. One report on Lieberman’s involvement was critical of him for failing to disclose in his testimony the extensive legal work his Kasowitz, Benson, Torres & Friedman law firm had done for Donald Trump since at least as long ago as 2001. The work included bankrupt casino restructuring and, during the 2016 campaign, threatening the New York Times over publication of a few 1995 Trump tax documents.[66]

from Wiki

just a drive-by

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 20, 2017 • 1:44:16pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 20, 2017 • 1:51:25pm

Now that Trump’s in the hot seat, I see the same clowns who believed ever whisper and bullshit conspiracy theory and email outrage against Obama and Clinton denigrating anonymous sourcing used by journalists.

Here’s the thing - anonymous sources aren’t anonymous to the reporter. The reporters know who they’re talking to.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 20, 2017 • 2:02:04pm

Are not journalists citizens?

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bratwurst  May 20, 2017 • 2:03:12pm
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 20, 2017 • 2:05:27pm

re: #45 I Would Prefer Not To

I guess he isn’t going to link to all those tweets.

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Danack  May 20, 2017 • 2:06:16pm

/hey, I resemble that remark.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 2:24:45pm

louise haz an angry:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 2:25:43pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

louise haz an angry:

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 20, 2017 • 2:38:47pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll settle for a six pack of impeachment.

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stpaulbear  May 20, 2017 • 2:46:39pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

“a case of impeachment”

Is she getting the word ‘of’ mixed up with ‘for’? Absolutely there’s a case for impeachment. ‘Case of’ doesn’t make any sense.

Inpeach!!

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Belafon  May 20, 2017 • 2:48:03pm

re: #45 I Would Prefer Not To

I got the name wrong.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 2:51:21pm

re: #51 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I’ll settle for a six pack of impeachment.

I dunno… I think we should hold out for a keg of impeachment.///

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Interesting Times  May 20, 2017 • 2:51:42pm

re: #53 Belafon

Good point, wrong journalist - that was Kurt Eichenwald.

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Belafon  May 20, 2017 • 2:52:31pm

re: #55 Interesting Times

Good point, wrong journalist - that was Kurt Eichenwald.

Thanks. After I posted, I was like “Is that name right? Nope.” It takes sooooo long to fix a tweet.

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piratedan  May 20, 2017 • 2:54:20pm

re: #53 Belafon

understand Brad’s point, but broad brushes on these things really don’t serve the purpose… lets face it, if Trump is impeached, it WILL be with the help of certain Republicans, despite their overall cowardice and their positions on many things that we collectively loathe. Whether there are enough of them left that can actually admit that the current President, the majority of his administration and certain elements of the GOP leadership to act upon what is yet to be proven (but oh so many of us suspect) via testimony and thru collected evidence.

None of this would have been possible if there weren’t some voices out there asking questions…

does that mean that those poseurs over at Faux News shouldn’t ride tumbrels? I didn’t say that, but I think there are a lot or journos that are only as good as the people that point them at the stories… those narrative setters have a LOT to do with the crappy coverage that we get, as its driven more by what gets ratings versus reporting events.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 20, 2017 • 3:01:27pm
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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 3:03:01pm

Hah… hooman comes by to fill the feeder, and the squirrel decides its for him:

Cornell Feeders at Sapsucker Woods

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 3:15:24pm

From one of my liberal Christian friends: This one hits it right on the head.

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Skip Intro  May 20, 2017 • 3:22:15pm

And here come the assholes.

Ahead of showdown over who will lead California Democrats, ‘Berniecrats’ have a message: ‘We don’t have to behave’

“Tomorrow, when we’re in that hall…they’re going to be telling you how bad Trump is and how we should all be okay with them because Trump’s so bad,” said RoseAnn DeMoro, executive director of the California Nurses Assn./National Nurses United, and a prominent Sanders backer. “Tomorrow, you guys are going to want to boo. There’s a lot of good people to boo.”

Nina Turner, a former state senator from Ohio who has frequently warmed up crowds at Sanders rallies, said, “The way we show the corporate [Democrats] that we are not playing games with them, starting right here in California, is to make sure that we get Kimberly Ellis elected as chair!”

Turner went on to skewer Democrats for remaining hyper-focused on the controversy surrounding the investigation into White House ties with Russia and not on solving problems with criminal justice reform and income inequality.

Adding that she believed that there is no longer any difference between the nation’s two major parties, Turner urged delegates to turn out to protest and vote in the party’s elections.

They have learned nothing.

latimes.com

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stpaulbear  May 20, 2017 • 3:24:23pm

re: #59 freetoken

I’m surprised the squirrel is munching away like that. They usually don’t like safflower seed.

I spent years finessing a feeder setup in my yard that deterred squirrels and house sparrows. It worked, and it was great for a while.

Then my deeply paranoid neighbor noticed that house sparrows travel in flocks that would all fly away when disturbed. With this knowledge, he determined that a huge flock of house sparrows would be a great warning device if someone came into his yard, so he started putting out bread to attract as many house sparrows as possible. He succeeded and it completely wrecked the balance I had going on in my yard.

I told him that house sparrows were an invasive species that is dangerous for native birds, and showed him a birding guide written by someone from the MN DNR that actually wrote that if you have too many house sparrows, you should find a way to humanely kill them for the sake of the native birds.

The second time I tried to talk to him about it, he told me to quit harassing him and went in the house saying he was going to call the cops on me.

We haven’t said a word to each other in many years. I’m still pissed off.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 3:24:39pm

re: #61 Skip Intro

And here come the assholes.

Ahead of showdown over who will lead California Democrats, ‘Berniecrats’ have a message: ‘We don’t have to behave’

They have learned nothing.

latimes.com

Intentionally so. They’re as deliberately dense as the Republicans. Think of it, if you will, as the BernieBros being the left’s version of the religious right. Only their god is purity ponies.

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Interesting Times  May 20, 2017 • 3:24:41pm
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Nyet  May 20, 2017 • 3:24:58pm
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Nyet  May 20, 2017 • 3:27:23pm
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piratedan  May 20, 2017 • 3:31:55pm

re: #64 Interesting Times

well…. lets look at what he’s accomplished in his brief tenure thus far… the guy who said that they would hit the ground running and that he would have all of the best people…

The wall… nothing happening

the AHCA… the versions previous to this incarnation found that at least 20M+ would lose their health care and that the costs would still go up for lesser coverage and mixed into its guts were provisions to hack Medicare AND give rich people a tax break

His cabinet… a guy who has no idea on what his cabinet position does (Perry), a neurosurgeon in charge of housing, a corrupt transportation selection (Chao) which smacks of nepotism (McConnell’s wife), and EPA pick who is already dismantling environmental regulations in favor of polluters, an Education choice who has repeatedly stated that she doesn’t believe in public education

His Nat security advisor - resigned in disgrace and is the subject of multiple investigations

His SC pick is nowhere near the timbre of the guy that the GOP even refused to consider

so I ask the question, what the fuck has he done that merits 7% positive coverage?

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FormerDirtDart  May 20, 2017 • 3:33:00pm
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Interesting Times  May 20, 2017 • 3:33:15pm

So here’s something that addresses a point I constantly see brought up here - when will we see a switch from the soft-peddling, sympathetic portraits of trump voters and a focus on those who voted against him?*

*What, did you think this was from US media? Silly reader, of course the reporter’s Canadian :/

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FormerDirtDart  May 20, 2017 • 3:36:22pm

Nothing to see here.
Move along now!

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 3:36:33pm

re: #62 stpaulbear

I think that is a mixed seed feed on the flat tray.

The local squirrels do seem to like it, though the doves try to hold their ground.

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 3:38:15pm

re: #67 piratedan

Their website discusses the problems they have with the mammals:

content.yardmap.org

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stpaulbear  May 20, 2017 • 3:38:34pm

re: #71 freetoken

I think that is a mixed seed feed on the flat tray.

The local squirrels do seem to like it, though the doves try to hold their ground.

Mourning Doves LOVE LOVE LOVE safflower seed. Not surprising that they want to hold their ground.

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BeachDem  May 20, 2017 • 3:39:54pm

re: #14 lawhawk

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jaunte  May 20, 2017 • 3:43:18pm

re: #70 FormerDirtDart

Oddly close to sea level for a secure vault supposed to last centuries.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 3:44:16pm

re: #75 jaunte

Oddly close to sea level for a secure vault supposed to last centuries.

Antarctica is generally one of the last places I would think would be a concern with respect to global warming. Even if the ice does melt, it is a continent which is nominally above sea level.

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FormerDirtDart  May 20, 2017 • 3:46:42pm
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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 3:47:38pm

re: #76 thedopefishlives

The seed vault is in the Arctic, and while ice loss from Greenland doesn’t raise the sea level in that area - because of gravity redistributing the water southward - the problem eventually for the seed vault will be persistent above freezing temperatures in the summer.

And then the big problem for sea level will be ice loss in Antarctica. Gravity will distribute the water around the world northward. Eventually enough ice will melt from Antarctica to submerge anything less than many meters above current sea level.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 3:47:55pm

re: #77 FormerDirtDart

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Perhaps with love and respect, the same as we’re supposed to treat anyone else? FFS.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 3:48:55pm

re: #78 freetoken

The seed vault is in the Arctic, and while ice loss from Greenland doesn’t raise the sea level in that area - because of gravity redistributing the water southward - the problem eventually for the seed vault will be persistent above freezing temperatures in the summer.

And then the big problem for sea level will be ice loss in Antarctica. Gravity will distribute the water around the world northward. Eventually enough ice will melt from Antarctica to submerge anything less than many meters above current sea level.

Fair enough, and apologies for the misunderstanding - I thought we’d be smart enough not to put a seed vault in the middle of a frickin’ ocean (even one that is usually icebound), just on the principle of security against apocalyptic planetary changes.

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jaunte  May 20, 2017 • 3:49:17pm

re: #78 freetoken

The photo is a bit deceptive, the elevation of the vault is listed at 430 ft.

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BeachDem  May 20, 2017 • 3:50:37pm

re: #61 Skip Intro

And here come the assholes.

Ahead of showdown over who will lead California Democrats, ‘Berniecrats’ have a message: ‘We don’t have to behave’

They have learned nothing.

latimes.com

There was a diary over at kos about Nina Turner and the CA stuff. One commenter talked about how he had adored her for years, etc. then went on to call her Tina Turner. Heh.

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jaunte  May 20, 2017 • 3:50:46pm
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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 3:52:10pm

re: #80 thedopefishlives

The seed vault is, I think, a Norwegian thing. When started it was not envisioned that the Trump/Putin vision of melting all the ice in the world would be the winning team.

Here was the problem - under estimating the enormity of the change which is coming.
re: #81 jaunte

But that won’t stop the above-freezing temps during summer. Assuming we are on an above-RCP4.5 pathway - the Trump/Putin vision - then even the high Arctic will end up with summers above freezing. It will take centuries, but even the permafrost will melt.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 3:53:27pm

re: #84 freetoken

Yeah, I know. Hindsight, 20/20, all that jazz.

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Barefoot Grin  May 20, 2017 • 3:53:47pm

That ad at the bottom has been fucking up my screen all afternoon.

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Teukka  May 20, 2017 • 3:54:34pm

The thing is, they’re looking themselves blind at the hydrocarbons in the Arctic, but failing to see all the other consequences of what they’re doing…

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 3:54:45pm

Personally, I think the doomsday vault thing was more symbolism than a practical thing. I’m not condemning symbolism, but in practice I do not see how it will be used.

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b_sharp  May 20, 2017 • 3:59:23pm

re: #61 Skip Intro

And here come the assholes.

Ahead of showdown over who will lead California Democrats, ‘Berniecrats’ have a message: ‘We don’t have to behave’

They have learned nothing.

latimes.com

If the Democrats were exactly the same as the Republicans then the policies would be the same no matter who was elected & Trump would have no reason to sign any EOs.
Do these people even know how to tie their shoes & feed themselves?

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Interesting Times  May 20, 2017 • 4:03:11pm

re: #88 freetoken

Personally, I think the doomsday vault thing was more symbolism than a practical thing. I’m not condemning symbolism, but in practice I do not see how it will be used.

Speaking of symbolism vs. practical vs. preparing for the future, what do you think of this? (you don’t need to tell me how much fox-news America will scream and rant and rave; I’m more interested in whether the rest of the world would go along if this guy’s predictions become reality):

Tony Seba: By 2030, 95% of People Won’t Own a Private Car — Automaker Death Spiral Coming

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Barefoot Grin  May 20, 2017 • 4:03:34pm

re: #83 jaunte

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He can do those alcohol songs for the Saudi dudebros. (Two anecdotes: when I was living in Japan I had a friend who had to chauffeur Saudi businessmen interested in his company’s products for a weekend. I happened to be visiting him at the time. He got back from dropping them off at Narita and said, “those guys were huffing cigarettes and downing beer like there was no tomorrow.” I also had a Bahrainian student once who complained about the rich Saudi men who drove to Bahrain to get drunk on the weekends.)

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jaunte  May 20, 2017 • 4:10:59pm

re: #91 Barefoot Grin

Well a man come on the 6 o’clock news
Said somebody’s been shot, somebody’s been abused
Somebody blew up a building, somebody stole a car
Somebody got away, somebody didn’t get too far yeah
They didn’t get too far
Grandpappy told my pappy, back in my day, son
A man had to answer for the wicked that he done
Take all the rope in Texas find a tall oak tree,
Round up all them bad boys hang them high in the street
For all the people to see
That justice is the one thing you should always find
You got to saddle up your boys, you got to draw a hard line
When the gun smoke settles we’ll sing a victory tune
And we’ll all meet back at the local saloon
We’ll raise up our glasses against evil forces singing
Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses

Oops.

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The Major  May 20, 2017 • 4:12:22pm
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Dave In Austin  May 20, 2017 • 4:13:02pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 20, 2017 • 4:13:51pm

re: #92 jaunte

Oops.

Not to mention the part about America putting a boot in your ass…

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Dave In Austin  May 20, 2017 • 4:16:10pm

Freetoken, where is that bird blind that you’ve been posting?

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William Lewis  May 20, 2017 • 4:16:34pm

re: #79 thedopefishlives

Perhaps with love and respect, the same as we’re supposed to treat anyone else? FFS.

“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.” Matthew 7:12

It’s not really that difficult.

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piratedan  May 20, 2017 • 4:17:19pm

re: #93 The Major (fka Eric The Fruit Bat)

is The Major’s name a riff on the character taken from The Three Days of the Condor?

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 4:17:43pm

re: #97 William Lewis

“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.” Matthew 7:12

It’s not really that difficult.

Did I fucking stutter?!
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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 4:18:14pm

re: #90 Interesting Times

I saw someone commenting about that. Anyway, the claim of 95% is easy to make if you include all 8 billion people, the expected population for that time.

5% of 8 billion is 400 million, so if he’s saying only 400 million people will own a car in 2030 well, ok then.

I think that is probably low, though, because autos are kept running for a long time once owned. (See Cuba.)

Supposedly there are about 1 billion automobiles (includes anything that moves with an internal combustion engine and has more than 3 wheels) around today.

He’s claiming there will be a 60% reduction in 12 years.

I think that is probably outside the realm of reality.

In 12 years I bet there will be as many autos in the world as there are today.

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Teukka  May 20, 2017 • 4:18:40pm

re: #97 William Lewis

“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.” Matthew 7:12

It’s not really that difficult.

“Love your neighbor as yourself” — That GuyTM

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William Lewis  May 20, 2017 • 4:19:15pm

re: #99 thedopefishlives

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Yep. I have that printed out and taped to the inside cover of my personal prayer book.

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 4:20:33pm

Here’s a study less than 3 years old, which claims that there will be 2 billion autos in 2035:

1.2 Billion Vehicles On World’s Roads Now, 2 Billion By 2035: Report

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 4:21:14pm

re: #102 William Lewis

Yep. I have that printed out and taped to the inside cover of my personal prayer book.

Like you said, it’s not that hard. You don’t have to think homosexuality, or premarital sex, or abortion, or any of those things, are moral or right. What you do have to do is take care of the people who do those things, regardless of your personal/religious beliefs on their actions, because it’s the people who are important. Leave the morality judgments to God.

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Nyet  May 20, 2017 • 4:22:10pm
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Interesting Times  May 20, 2017 • 4:22:29pm

re: #100 freetoken

How about his claims re global oil demand?

“Global oil demand will peak at 100 million barrels per day by 2020, dropping to 70 million barrels per day by 2030. This will impact different companies and countries disproportionately — and in many cases, dramatically — depending on their exposure to high-cost oil.”

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Nyet  May 20, 2017 • 4:22:40pm

re: #101 Teukka

“Love your neighbor as yourself” — That GuyTM

Pity to those who are not that guy’s neighbors though.

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jaunte  May 20, 2017 • 4:24:38pm
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Teukka  May 20, 2017 • 4:24:47pm

re: #107 Nyet

Pity to those who are not that guy’s neighbors though.

The thing is, how many neighbors do you have? In the biblical sense, the number of our neighbors is 6 to 7 billion somewhere. On this planet alone.

That was the point that Yeshua dude was trying to make in the parable of the good Samaritan.

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 4:27:29pm

re: #106 Interesting Times

One of my old soapboxes was the word “oil”.

It is so abused.

What people really mean is liquid fuels.

The Peak Oil folk had their day in the sun - they were just too early and a bit too enthusiastic. The more serious ones had concluded that we’ll probably ride a long and bumpy plateau of petroleum production, and to supplement that liquid fuels will be made out of other items.

And that is where we are today - on a bumpy plateau.

By making automobiles more efficient, more people can use cars without significantly increasing liquid fuels. Many of the personal automobiles in the world use 1.6L or even 1.4L 4-cylinder engines. Here in America we are still addicted to overly-large vehicles, but we are atypical in that consumer item.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 4:29:38pm

re: #110 freetoken

Well, even Americans are starting to come around. The popularity of 4- and 6-cylinder vehicles among Americans has been growing rapidly over the last 5 or so years. Think about it - among American manufacturers, there used to be a day when you could buy a car in almost any size with a V8 option. Nowadays, V8’s are reserved exclusively for trucks and full-size sedans; you can’t get a V8 in a midsize anymore.

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Nyet  May 20, 2017 • 4:29:44pm

re: #109 Teukka

The thing is, how many neighbors do you have? In the biblical sense, the number of our neighbors is 6 to 7 billion somewhere. On this planet alone.

That was the point that Yeshua dude was trying to make in the parable of the good Samaritan.

Nah. That would imply there are 6 to 7 billion good Samaritans. And only 1 guy out of 3 in that parable was a neighbor.

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Teukka  May 20, 2017 • 4:30:58pm

re: #112 Nyet

Nah. That would imply there are 6 to 7 billion good Samaritans. Because only 1 guy out of 3 in that parable was a neighbor.

Yup. But that’s what The Boss wants, us being neighbors.
Capisce? ;)

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 4:31:27pm

re: #113 Teukka

Yup. But that’s what The Boss wants, us being neighbors.
Capisce? ;)

I had an in-depth debate with Sergey on this a couple months back. It makes an interesting theological argument.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2017 • 4:32:46pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Not to mention the part about America putting a boot in your ass…

or Toby’s Taliban Song…

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 4:33:02pm

re: #111 thedopefishlives

But many Americans buy the “SUV” type of thing, and these often come with the larger engines. Who buys sedans anymore? Go to a shopping center parking lot in my area of the world, and half the vehicles are either trucks, SUVs, or mini-van thingys.

Some may be 6 cylinder, but with larger displacements.

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Nyet  May 20, 2017 • 4:34:29pm

re: #113 Teukka

Yup. But that’s what The Boss wants, us being neighbors.
Capisce? ;)

We were discussing the commandment of loving the neighbor. And if the guy doesn’t do unto me like the good Samaritan, he is not my neighbor - per the Dude’s definition.

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wrenchwench  May 20, 2017 • 4:34:39pm
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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 4:35:09pm

re: #116 freetoken

But many Americans buy the “SUV” type of thing, and these often come with the larger engines. Who buys sedans anymore? Go to a shopping center parking lot in my area of the world, and half the vehicles are either trucks, SUVs, or mini-van thingys.

Some may be 6 cylinder, but with larger displacements.

I’ll grant you that, but to your last point, the majority of “SUV’s” that you’ll see in that parking lot, along with minivans, are going to be V6. Some, the older ones, will be larger-displacement naturally aspirated V6, but the trend has been toward smaller turbocharged (or twin-turbo for performance) V6’s. Ford’s vaunted Ecoboost technology is essentially just replacing a naturally aspirated, higher cylinder count motor with a smaller, more efficient, turbocharged motor with a smaller cylinder count. It’s slower adoption than in other countries, but it is happening.

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William Lewis  May 20, 2017 • 4:35:58pm

re: #112 Nyet

re: #109 Teukka

The thing is, how many neighbors do you have? In the biblical sense, the number of our neighbors is 6 to 7 billion somewhere. On this planet alone.

That was the point that Yeshua dude was trying to make in the parable of the good Samaritan.

Nah. That would imply there are 6 to 7 billion good Samaritans. And only 1 guy out of 3 in that parable was a neighbor.

Go and Do Likewise: Lessons from the parable of the Good Samaritan by Amy-Jill Levine

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FormerDirtDart  May 20, 2017 • 4:37:57pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 20, 2017 • 4:38:27pm

Shocked, shocked I say…

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The Major  May 20, 2017 • 4:38:43pm

re: #98 piratedan

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 4:39:17pm

The chart on this page tells the story for the US:

eia.gov

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 4:41:03pm

re: #122 FormerDirtDart

There you go again with all negative news!

Sad!

Byron York will not approve.

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FormerDirtDart  May 20, 2017 • 4:42:48pm

re: #108 jaunte

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Teukka  May 20, 2017 • 4:43:21pm

re: #117 Nyet

We were discussing the commandment of loving the neighbor. And if the guy doesn’t do unto me like the good Samaritan, he is not my neighbor - per the Dude’s definition.

Think again. He was a Samaritan. Like very low person on the totem pole. He had the least of reasons to help. Given the prejudices about Samaritans at the time, no one expected him to help. Yet he helped. He fulfilled his obligation as a neighbor, as commanded by “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

We are all neighbors. Just that some find various flimsy excuses not to fulfill his or her obligations as one.

I sometimes semi-joke when I said that the most important commandment is silent, which is the 11th one:

XI. Thou shalt not get away with it.

Sorry if this seems like sacrilege or heresy, but how on earth are you to get away with not living up to your end of the deal when you’re dealing with an omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent deity? Can’t be done. God knows the excuses you are going to give, and will remember just how real they were.

EPIC… No, divine pwnage at the pearly gate.

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 4:44:41pm

A quarter old, but the claim is probably close to true:

The 20 best-selling cars and trucks in America

Yes, there are a few small cars in there. A few, among 20, with the top slots dominated by energy hogs.

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FormerDirtDart  May 20, 2017 • 4:45:34pm

re: #125 freetoken

There you go again with all negative news!

Sad!

Byron York will not approve.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 4:45:50pm

re: #128 freetoken

A quarter old, but the claim is probably close to true:

The 20 best-selling cars and trucks in America

Yes, there are a few small cars in there. A few, among 20, with the top slots dominated by energy hogs.

Wow, they really don’t like ad blockers, do they.

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freetoken  May 20, 2017 • 4:46:24pm

re: #130 thedopefishlives

Wow, they really don’t like ad blockers, do they.

Nope.

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BeachDem  May 20, 2017 • 4:46:46pm

I just saw somebody note that Loony Louise Mensch and Seth Abramson are arch emenies. Is this a fact? If so, another circle of derp completed. Soon we’ll have Olympic rings of derp circles.

On a brighter note, went to Hands Across the Sand today—pretty good turnout. I guess it’s because offshore drilling is back in the spotlight—ugh.

wbtw.com

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Nyet  May 20, 2017 • 4:48:46pm

re: #127 Teukka

Think again. The commandment says to love a neighbor. Jesus specifically excludes two guys as not neighbors. Logically then, the commandment does not apply to them.

Now, arguably one could apply “love one’s enemies” here, but that’s another issue. The point is, not everybody is your neighbor.

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thedopefishlives  May 20, 2017 • 4:49:03pm

re: #131 freetoken

Nope.

I make an exception for LGF as a concession to our esteemed webmaster, but not for other sites. Sowwies.

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FormerDirtDart  May 20, 2017 • 4:51:47pm

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