Donald Trump: The Most Unpopular President Since Polling Began

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Well, it’s official now. After 175 days, the would-be dictator in the Oval Office has finally achieved something that will go down in history: the lowest approval rating since modern polling began.

Trump’s approval rating as of last Thursday, 175 days into his presidency, was 39 percent, according to the FiveThirtyEight Trump approval tracker. Combined with a disapproval rating of 55 percent, Trump’s net approval rating (approval minus disapproval) was -16 percentage points.

Trump’s early-term unpopularity is unusual. In the decades since World War II, the average first-term president before Trump had an approval rating of 62 percent on his 175th day in office, 23 percentage points higher than Trump’s. Only two other presidents have had an approval rating south of 50 percent at this point in their terms, and only Gerald Ford, at 35 percent, had an approval rating lower than Trump’s; Ford’s rating tumbled following his decision to pardon Richard Nixon. Trump’s disapproval rating, however, is much higher than Ford’s,1 and Trump is the only president of whom a majority of Americans have said they disapprove of the job he is doing this soon after his inauguration. His net approval rating is 54 points below average and remains by far the lowest in the period for which we have data.

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makeitstop  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:37:39am

[Trump]Not bad![/Trump]

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:37:44am
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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:39:23am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:39:57am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:40:41am

Chris Cilliza tends to be pretty bad, but this time he’s right. Trump has no one to blame but himself.
‘Modern Day Presidential’ really isn’t working for Trump

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:42:42am

re: #3 Kragar

Coal and nuclear are uneconomic — more bombshells from Perry’s draft grid study

Draft Report posted on Scribd by ThinkProgress

Scribd Document

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:45:25am

re: #4 Dr. Matt

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:47:30am

According to a recent Wash Post/ABC poll, his ratings dropped 2% AMONG REPUBLICANS.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:48:47am
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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:52:04am

As in my other post on this topic, I think every percentage point down from here is going to be tough to achieve and equally damaging to Trump’s chances of holding on until even Christmas time. Since Trump is down to his core support crowd exclusively now, it will take monumental headlines to inch him down even farther. His Fox News/breitbart energized Core will not give in easily. The information ghetto they have walled themselves into and their disregard for the rest of the world’s 98% of media sources means actual policy scares will probably be the main driver of his erosion of support. The strategy should continue to be to hammer him and the rest of the vile GOP traitors to this country’s core ideology of undermining Democracy with foreign intervention electioneering and health care.

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:52:22am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:54:32am

re: #11 Kragar

And what a fabulous day it is.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:55:58am

re: #8 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

According to a recent Wash Post/ABC poll, his ratings dropped 2% AMONG REPUBLICANS.

It’s not like he has two points to lose among Lizards.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:56:58am

These guys are just freaking unreal.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 17, 2017 • 11:57:23am

Well… afaik it was official when he lost the majority vote by millions of votes. But not to quibble with the point, there is plenty of reasons it got worse from there. Far worse. Just ask anyone dealing with an agency short of attorneys or department heads due to the appointment crisis. Or ask a family that has deep ties here and in certain mid eastern nations. Or ask civilians there right now that are under more threat from American bombs than ever. Or ask our allies.

Hard on our allies, cool with our enemies, lining his own pockets via the office he holds. SMH

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:00:40pm

re: #3 Kragar

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:01:22pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:02:12pm

re: #8 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

According to a recent Wash Post/ABC poll, his ratings dropped 2% AMONG REPUBLICANS.

Because the House and Senate aren’t getting anything done. They probably expected Obamacare to be toast, all Muslims to be deported and the Border Wall to be half finished by now.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:03:42pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

These guys are just freaking unreal.

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They really are.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:04:27pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:08:22pm

re: #3 Kragar

FAKE NEWS!!1!1!1

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:12:53pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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Really? I thought it was obvious by now that there is no lie so brazen that they won’t tell it.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:12:56pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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Sorry, no it’s not surprising. They Lie.

It is who they are.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:14:23pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Because the House and Senate aren’t getting anything done. They probably expected Obamacare to be toast, all Muslims to be deported and the Border Wall to be half finished by now.

No doubt. Still the first drop evahhh. (Perhaps.)

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:14:34pm
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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:16:54pm
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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:19:00pm
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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:25:10pm
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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:25:57pm

Do you believe in Majinsky?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:26:31pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:27:38pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:27:58pm

re: #29 jaunte

Do you believe in Majinsky?

In a young girls heartinsky?

(edited for lyric error)

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:28:47pm

re: #32 stpaulbear

Do a dance like Nijinsky?

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:29:33pm

re: #29 jaunte

Do you believe in Majinsky?

He was thinking of Nijinsky, a master of leaping and spinning and redirecting focus.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:30:53pm

re: #25 Kragar

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:33:17pm

re: #29 jaunte

Do you believe in Majinsky?

Do You Believe In Magic - The Lovin’ Spoonful

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:34:05pm

re: #35 Ace-o-aces

After 7 months of investigations & committee hearings about my “collusion with the Russians,” nobody has been able to show any proof. Sad!

— Donald J. Trump

Emails of Junior’s and Manafort’s and Jared’s collusion with Russians surfaces:

Anybody would have colluded. Collusion is great. MAGA.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:35:02pm

re: #28 jaunte

Walked by a TV screen just a bit ago, saw the frozen pic with the Spicer voice-over.

JFC.

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petesh  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:35:06pm

Hey, the “adoption” bullshit was in itself a complete giveaway, since that was directly tied into Russian sanctions. We mustn’t let them get away with that — it’s not just an attempt at deflection, it’s code, and in itself it’s proof of the real intent of the meeting.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:38:02pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

These guys are just freaking unreal.

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If this was just adoption, and if the Trumps had nothing to do with Russian messing with the elections…

THEN WHY THE HELL ALL THE LYING DODGING AND GENERAL FUCKING STUPIDITY!!!

If there is nothing there, their reaction would be to go about business as usual.

Sorry for the screaming…but damn, these folks are so dense. Their actions betray them and nothing they do fixes it because it is all cover up, lie, dodge, etc.

You are basically saying you are guilty. And you still say nothing negative about Putin.

Damn, Vlad has got to be enjoying his puppet show here in America.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:38:29pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:41:06pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:42:10pm

Our numbnuts president

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:44:02pm

re: #42 FormerDirtDart

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:44:15pm

re: #43 Stanley Sea

Our numbnuts president

Too bad he can’t demonstrate the American made stuff by showing his own MAGA crap.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:45:17pm

re: #36 Dr. Matt

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Of course in the case of the Trump Crew, it would be The Hatin’ Mouthful.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:45:41pm

re: #27 Belafon

Lot of folks who have never cared about Dr. Who before are suddenly very concerned. Maybe we should announce that climate change is a woman.

— Carol Hartsell

In Donald Trump’s America, too!

Damn, BBC!

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:46:47pm

re: #4 Dr. Matt

Related:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:47:24pm

This is the Stupidest Tweet You Will See All Day (in spoilers because of Teh Stupids)

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darthstar  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:47:42pm

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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:48:03pm

I don’t know if this is real or not, but it looks much worse than pineapple pizza.

Ramsay Forced to Spit Out BACON & CHOCOLATE PIZZA! | Hotel Hell

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:48:08pm

re: #44 Kragar

Marvin the Paranoid Android couldn’t be reached for comment.

Don’t talk to me about life.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:48:12pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart

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I’m honestly having a hard time figuring out what Ted Cruz has to gain from putting this amendment in the bill. Who benefits from it? The insurance companies? They came out against it because of what it would do to insurance markets. The only conclusion I can come to is that Cruz is a nihilistic psychopath who wants to burn down our health care system just for the hell of it. Or just to stick it to Obama for presidenting while black.

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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:48:27pm

re: #4 Dr. Matt

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… Historically Low Approval Rating…’

call the numbers what you will. they stand in stark contract to what he said over and over again were his greatest strengths and what he and he alone would be able to do in no time at all.

were six months into a presidency that was going to be the best ever. best vetting and hiring, fastest legislation and bill signing, best negotiating, money saving-est, most efficient, etc etc etc

yet he’s actually done almost nothing - certainly none of the above

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:49:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:50:36pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:51:23pm

re: #53 No Depression

I’m honestly having a hard time figuring out what Ted Cruz has to gain from putting this amendment in the bill. Who benefits from it? The insurance companies? They came out against it because of what it would do to insurance markets. The only conclusion I can come to is that Cruz is a nihilistic psychopath who wants to burn down our health care system just for the hell of it. Or just to stick it to Obama for presidenting while black.

He thinks his supporters are stup… oh, wait.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:52:36pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

The deplorables need to be able to both deny there was collusion AND be able to tell all the liberals on FB that collusion is just fine.

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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:53:40pm

re: #54 dangerman

call the numbers what you will. they stand in start contract to what he said over and over again were his greatest strengths and what he and he alone would be able to do in no time at all.

were six months into a presidency that was going to be the best ever. best vetting and hiring, fastest legislation and bill signing, best negotiating, money saving-est, most efficient, etc etc etc

yet he’s actually done almost nothing - certainly none of the above

And we’re actually somewhat relieved that he has accomplished almost nothing. Everything he wants to do hurts people.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:54:37pm

re: #49 The Vicious Babushka

That story he’s linking to is so fraudulent it smells right through the internet. YourNewsWire is a cut-rate Infowars that peddles fake news to gullible morons like James Woods.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:54:59pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That Dalek isn’t taking the news about the new female Doctor very well, is it?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:55:08pm

re: #53 No Depression

I’m honestly having a hard time figuring out what Ted Cruz has to gain from putting this amendment in the bill. Who benefits from it? The insurance companies? They came out against it because of what it would do to insurance markets. The only conclusion I can come to is that Cruz is a nihilistic psychopath who wants to burn down our health care system just for the hell of it. Or just to stick it to Obama for presidenting while black.

Its all about FREEEEEDUUUM!!!

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:55:20pm

re: #49 The Vicious Babushka

This is the Stupidest Tweet You Will See All Day (in spoilers because of Teh Stupids)

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The “news site” that tweet links to, is a wordpress blog. Among its front page stories are

CIA Agent Confesses On Deathbed: ‘We Blew Up WTC7 On 9/11’
Hollywood Insider: Bill Cosby Was Framed By Elite To Stop Him Buying NBC
Canadian Defence Minister: Aliens Have Visited Earth For Thousands Of Years
and
I Was In The Illuminati I’m Going To Tell You Everything, Shocking Expose

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:55:24pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:55:27pm

re: #53 No Depression

I’m honestly having a hard time figuring out what Ted Cruz has to gain from putting this amendment in the bill. Who benefits from it? The insurance companies? They came out against it because of what it would do to insurance markets. The only conclusion I can come to is that Cruz is a nihilistic psychopath who wants to burn down our health care system just for the hell of it. Or just to stick it to Obama for presidenting while black.

I wonder if Cruz even knows what this crappy non-insurance does. I bet he had some flunky draw it up, gave it an okay and that was it.

Or, was it put in to be a deal breaker because Ted wants to be like Rand and just kill insurance altogether but he is too weak to do it out in the open for political reasons.

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Frenchy  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:55:34pm

I do understand, intellectually, that his numbers are historically low, but I still can’t help but be disturbed that they’re not much lower. It is downright alarming that 39% of Americans are so disconnected from reality that they think this clown is doing a good job.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:56:16pm

re: #49 The Vicious Babushka

This is the Stupidest Tweet You Will See All Day (in spoilers because of Teh Stupids)

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Good grief, Hillary waited until July 2017 to off this guy? ////

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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:56:48pm

re: #58 Sir John Barron

The deplorables need to be able to both deny there was collusion AND be able to tell all the liberals on FB that collusion is just fine.

you can contradict yourself and each other all day long in the media - that sells

it will not work in a deposition or other legal setting. any half assed opposition lawyer would have to ask two, maybe three questions

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:57:42pm
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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:58:13pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

trump’s dukakis moment

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:58:54pm

re: #66 Frenchy

I do understand, intellectually, that his numbers are historically low, but I still can’t help but be disturbed that they’re not much lower. It is downright alarming that 39% of Americans are so disconnected from reality that they think this clown is doing a good job.

And given the state of congressional districting, new voting restrictions, etc, this Dumpster fire may not pay the full price for his ridiculousness.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 12:59:51pm

re: #67 Sir John Barron

Good grief, Hillary waited until July 2017 to off this guy? ////

She’s slacking in her old age.//

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:00:42pm

re: #70 dangerman

trump’s dukakis moment

Dukakis at least was a vet.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:01:02pm

re: #43 Stanley Sea

Outside the White House, Pres. Trump and VP Pence tour large American-made products for “Made in America” week.

And if President Obama pulled a stunt like this, the right would be shitting themselves with outrage and screeching about “a waste of taxpayers dollars”.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:01:02pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:01:10pm
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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:01:53pm

re: #59 stpaulbear

And we’re actually somewhat relieved that he has accomplished almost nothing. Everything he wants to do hurts people.

im agreeing absolutely.

as he’s not even living up to his own self-promoted in the campaign standard, inside himself you know that’s gotta burn. unless he was actually lying all along about his great business skills etc.

whether he thinks hes doing a good job despite the abysmal numbers, you know he thought he’d be saying - see 90% approval and only six months in

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whitebeach  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:03:46pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Nice hat. I guess the cattle were cropped out of the picture.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:04:13pm

You know it’s bad news when those extreme right wingers you still follow on FB have all of a sudden really mostly shut up about Trump these last few weeks.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:04:47pm

re: #63 sagehen

The “news site” that tweet links to, is a wordpress blog. Among its front page stories are

CIA Agent Confesses On Deathbed: ‘We Blew Up WTC7 On 9/11’
Hollywood Insider: Bill Cosby Was Framed By Elite To Stop Him Buying NBC
Canadian Defence Minister: Aliens Have Visited Earth For Thousands Of Years
and
I Was In The Illuminati I’m Going To Tell You Everything, Shocking Expose

None dare call it ‘fake news’.

/

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:05:22pm

re: #51 stpaulbear

I don’t know if this is real or not, but it looks much worse than pineapple pizza.

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Video

That was awesome.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:05:47pm

re: #78 whitebeach

Nice hat. I guess the cattle were cropped out of the picture.

I think I saw a few horses asses smiling in the background.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:06:23pm

re: #76 Kragar

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Aww, he wants to be a fireman when he grows up.

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makeitstop  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:06:31pm

re: #82 Eventual Carrion

I think I saw a few horses asses smiling in the background.

Well, there’s one right under the hat!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:07:28pm

re: #79 Rocky-in-Connecticut

You know it’s bad news when those extreme right wingers you still follow on FB have all of a sudden really mostly shut up about Trump these last few weeks.

I’d a thought the past couple of weeks would have made them more rabid.

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:08:16pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:08:20pm

re: #76 Kragar

Somewhere on Twitter:

I’m so glad this great man is My President! MAGA forever!

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:08:47pm

re: #76 Kragar

“It’s the White House, sir. You should stop lighting the curtains on fire.”

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:08:57pm

re: #79 Rocky-in-Connecticut

You know it’s bad news when those extreme right wingers you still follow on FB have all of a sudden really mostly shut up about Trump these last few weeks.

I like real world signs. They are so much better an indicator than polls and TV media.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:10:22pm

re: #86 Kragar

I wonder if McConnell is wondering how they can keep McCain in the hospital longer, like until December, 2018.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:11:18pm

re: #86 Kragar

You mean McCain isn’t “concerned” about this bill?

/

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:11:20pm

re: #90 Belafon

I wonder if McConnell is wondering how they can keep McCain in the hospital longer, like until December, 2018.

He might be close to getting that fiftieth vote by then.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:12:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:14:54pm

re: #91 Sir John Barron

You mean McCain isn’t “concerned” about this bill?

/

He’s always “concerned” but usually gives into the GOP way. Totes Maverick.//

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:15:01pm

re: #85 Sir John Barron

I’d a thought the past couple of weeks would have made them more rabid.

Donny Jr’s email and meeting mess may be the start of the downfall. It is real and even Fox seems to be covering at such (see Shep Smith and Judge Nap).

And that came up from nowhere just in that time period you are discussing.

Wait until some of the stuff that was and is being looked at by the investigations starts to come out. Now it gets revealed in a different light due to Donny Jr.

I bet there are some mad scrambles going on at the Capitol Building these days. Lots of secret meetings…many of them most likely secret as in no Trumpers allowed. And that is the Republican side of things.

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:15:11pm
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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:21:34pm

Chris Christie

The White House should publicly disclose any and all contacts its staffers have had with foreign governments, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Monday, adding that the news Donald Trump Jr. had met with a Kremlin-linked lawyer “doesn’t help” ease cynicism about government.

“Everyone who had any contacts with any foreign nationals, especially anyone from Russia, should have been giving that information to the administration — should be put out publicly,” Christie, a Republican who led President Donald Trump’s transition team, said at an unrelated press conference.

…it would be inappropriate and possibly illegal for a U.S. political campaign to accept opposition research from a foreign government.

“possibly illegal”

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petesh  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:21:36pm

re: #92 Big Beautiful Door

He might be close to getting that fiftieth vote by then.

Uh, no. He might be close to losing his position as Majority Leader by then.

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petesh  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:22:48pm

re: #97 dangerman

Chris Christie

“possibly illegal”

Coming from the guy who put Kushner’s dad in jail, that’s … interesting

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darthstar  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:22:59pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:23:29pm

Looks like they’re boiling chocolate milk.

Name of the city with the boil advisory? Artesia. Named for the wells.

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piratedan  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:24:23pm

re: #96 Kragar

it would probably arrive here to arrest him for crimes committed in other systems….

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:24:51pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:25:16pm

re: #95 ObserverArt

Donny Jr’s email and meeting mess may be the start of the downfall. It is real and even Fox seems to be covering at such (see Shep Smith and Judge Nap).

And that came up from nowhere just in that time period you are discussing.

Wait until some of the stuff that was and is being looked at by the investigations starts to come out. Now it gets revealed in a different light due to Donny Jr.

I bet there are some mad scrambles going on at the Capitol Building these days. Lots of secret meetings…many of them most likely secret as in no Trumpers allowed. And that is the Republican side of things.

The longer Mueller’s investigation goes on the more rope Mueller gives Drumpf and his MAGAheads to hang themselves.

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nines09  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:25:49pm

re: #91 Sir John Barron

You mean McCain isn’t “concerned” about this bill?

/

The DL on the surgery was it was to fix his furrowed brow……..

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:25:54pm

I automatically flip to HGTV when the yam comes on

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:26:02pm

re: #98 petesh

Uh, no. He might be close to losing his position as Majority Leader by then.

That’s the spirit.

I know Michelle said to go high when they go low…but in this case I want everyone to kick ‘em while they are going down. We citizens have to make this hurt for the Republican party. The more suffering they all take over this whole mess the better our country will be down the road.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:26:58pm

re: #97 dangerman

Chris Christie

“possibly illegal”

Shutup Christie! NOt Illegal! What about Hillary emails!?!?!? Anybody would have taken this meeting and taken the material they gave Trump if about Hillary because we need those missing emails!!!!1 Nobody cares about Junior’s emails or this nothingburger meeting!!1

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:27:24pm

re: #43 Stanley Sea

Our numbnuts president

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He’d ride a golfcart for his tour, but he probably can’t find an American-made one.

And what is with all the “theme weeks?” It’s so reality-show—oh wait, I just answered my own question.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:28:50pm

re: #109 BeachDem

He’d ride a golfcart for his tour, but he probably can’t find an American-made one.

And what is with all the “theme weeks?” It’s so reality-show—oh wait, I just answered my own question.

Last week’s Donny Junior Email Week was pretty awesome.

I can’t wait for Mueller Report Week.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:29:55pm

Don’t you just love Karmic revenge?????

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:31:07pm

re: #104 Sir John Barron

The longer Mueller’s investigation goes on the more rope Mueller gives Drumpf and his MAGAheads to hang themselves.

That’s my thinking. I just hope some of the impatient people on the liberal side of things can keep their shit together.

This has to be done just right so it sticks and it lasts.

Really, Trump may find he does a lot for this country in the long run.

He may be the example of what not to do and how not to do it and lead to all kinds of extra controls on the presidency.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:32:54pm

I got a c note that says Trump’s cowboy hat was hecho en Mexico.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:33:21pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:34:25pm

“All hat, no cattle” takes a whole different meaning with this asshole.

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makeitstop  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:34:39pm

Garland goes all caps…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:34:54pm

re: #114 Ace-o-aces

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He’s such a childish asshole. Wonder what his wife and daughter think of that.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:36:21pm

I’m a little surprised Donald has been relatively quiet about Mueller recently. Maybe he forgot about Mueller. That, or his lawyers have successfully managed to make him refrain from commenting publicly—and that I have a hard time believing.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:39:16pm

re: #114 Ace-o-aces

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I’m sure he doesn’t watch Dr. Who. The sound of the TARDIS? That’s a sound that brings hope and modern conservatism has not just given up on but has actively thrown away hope. It is their antithesis.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:40:20pm

re: #110 Sir John Barron

Last week’s Donny Junior Email Week was pretty awesome.

I can’t wait for Mueller Report Week.

Then “sweep every tRump criminal under the jail week”. Sweeps week

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Kragar  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:41:49pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:42:16pm

re: #61 No Depression

That Dalek isn’t taking the news about the new female Doctor very well, is it?

Does kind of look like an Apple version of a Dalek!

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:42:30pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:44:34pm

re: #119 William Lewis

I’m sure he doesn’t watch Dr. Who. The sound of the TARDIS? That’s a sound that brings hope and modern conservatism has not just given up on but has actively thrown away hope. It is their antithesis.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:44:36pm

re: #119 William Lewis

I’m sure he doesn’t watch Dr. Who. The sound of the TARDIS? That’s a sound that brings hope and modern conservatism has not just given up on but has actively thrown away hope. It is their antithesis.

He’s like, “I have no idea what Dr. Who is about, but this seems to be upsetting the alt-right fanboys I’m inexplicably still trying to ingratiate my self with despite it being clear for months that they are antisemites who deeply hate me.”

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:44:57pm

Baffling with bullshit again, and Faux News recites without any hesitation all to keep the marks ignorant (and poor).

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:47:26pm

Thread—not a lotta Rudy love:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:47:54pm

re: #125 Ace-o-aces

He’s like, “I have no idea what Dr. Who is about, but this seems to be upsetting the alt-right fanboys I’m inexplicably still trying to ingratiate my self with despite it being clear for months that they are antisemites who deeply hate me.”

That’s exactly what that means.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:48:24pm

re: #126 lawhawk

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Baffling with bullshit again, and Faux News recites without any hesitation all to keep the marks ignorant (and poor).

Lol so pathetic.

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darthstar  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:49:19pm

Because people get upset if you spell out ‘going full retard’…

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:50:47pm
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petesh  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:54:43pm

re: #131 Ace-o-aces

Dear Mr Presnit, an executive order is not a bill, and a press release announcing the intention to write an executive order is not a bill either. Nor is your lunch check. Nor is a tweet. Perhaps you might consider a recount>

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Jack Burton  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:54:51pm

re: #131 Ace-o-aces

This is the kind of bullshit that they say about the Supreme Leader in North Korea. I can’t find the ones about the current man child in charge there, but there’s this:

unilad.co.uk

I see *ZERO* difference between Trump’s bullshit tweets and the above.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 1:58:14pm

re: #133 Jack Burton

This is the kind of bullshit that they say about the Supreme Leader in North Korea. I can’t find the ones about the current man child in charge there, but there’s this:

unilad.co.uk

I see *ZERO* difference between Trump’s bullshit tweets and the above.

The only difference is that we can laugh and sneer at him.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:03:01pm
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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:03:11pm

Welp, the wingers will now have their talking points assembled for that terrible police shooting of the Australian woman in MN.

The officer responsible for killing Damond has since been identified as Mohammed Noor, the first Somali-American officer to join the Minneapolis Police Department’s 5th Precinct team, according to local CBS affiliate WCCO.

(Horrible, horrible action no matter who the officer was, but I can’t even imagine the vitriol that will be following this revelation.)

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darthstar  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:04:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:05:24pm

re: #135 Dr. Matt

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Uh no. Nice try though.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:06:10pm

re: #136 BeachDem

Welp, the wingers will now have their talking points assembled for that terrible police shooting of the Australian woman in MN.

The officer responsible for killing Damond has since been identified as Mohammed Noor, the first Somali-American officer to join the Minneapolis Police Department’s 5th Precinct team, according to local CBS affiliate WCCO.

(Horrible, horrible action no matter who the officer was, but I can’t even imagine the vitriol that will be following this revelation.)

Yep sigh.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:08:32pm

re: #136 BeachDem

Welp, the wingers will now have their talking points assembled for that terrible police shooting of the Australian woman in MN.

The officer responsible for killing Damond has since been identified as Mohammed Noor, the first Somali-American officer to join the Minneapolis Police Department’s 5th Precinct team, according to local CBS affiliate WCCO.

(Horrible, horrible action no matter who the officer was, but I can’t even imagine the vitriol that will be following this revelation.)

Just read about it since I didn’t see the news. The body cameras weren’t on and the squad camera didn’t capture the incident. That smells like trouble to me.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:08:35pm

re: #135 Dr. Matt

People who want to remain in the country and work hard = People who want to destroy the country. Only in the feeble minded.

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:15:27pm

re: #140 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Just read about it since I didn’t see the news. The body cameras weren’t on and the squad camera didn’t capture the incident. That smells like trouble to me.

Latest is the cop who shot her did so from the passenger seat of the cop car while she was at the driver’s side window talking to the driver.

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danarchy  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:17:26pm

re: #132 petesh

Dear Mr Presnit, an executive order is not a bill, and a press release announcing the intention to write an executive order is not a bill either. Nor is your lunch check. Nor is a tweet. Perhaps you might consider a recount>

It has been a month or so since I last checked, but this was actually true the last time people called bullshit. Of course the majority of the bills he signed were repealing regulations passed during the last administration(apparently they were actual bills not just EO’s) and the rest were things like naming buildings and stuff.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:17:31pm

re: #136 BeachDem

Welp, the wingers will now have their talking points assembled for that terrible police shooting of the Australian woman in MN.

The officer responsible for killing Damond has since been identified as Mohammed Noor, the first Somali-American officer to join the Minneapolis Police Department’s 5th Precinct team, according to local CBS affiliate WCCO.

(Horrible, horrible action no matter who the officer was, but I can’t even imagine the vitriol that will be following this revelation.)

I bet the NRA will have an opinion about THIS shooting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:17:40pm

re: #142 BeachDem

Latest is the cop who shot her did so from the passenger seat of the cop car while she was at the driver’s side window talking to the driver.

Isn’t that really fucking dangerous for the driver?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:25:28pm
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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:27:30pm

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t that really fucking dangerous for the driver?

Nothing about this story makes any sense.

Damond, in her pajamas, went to the driver’s side door and was talking to the driver. The officer in the passenger seat pulled his gun and shot Damond through the driver’s side door, sources said. No weapon was found at the scene.

Why would they even add the “no weapon was found at the scene” line?

startribune.com

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:32:28pm
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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:33:46pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:35:49pm

re: #147 BeachDem

Nothing about this story makes any sense.

Damond, in her pajamas, went to the driver’s side door and was talking to the driver. The officer in the passenger seat pulled his gun and shot Damond through the driver’s side door, sources said. No weapon was found at the scene.

Why would they even add the “no weapon was found at the scene” line?

startribune.com

To clarify the woman had no gun, knife etc. and there was no threat to the officer in the driver’s seat. That’s my thinking. I had heard the news report on local TV this morning and it was the same.

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SpikeDad  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:37:02pm

re: #105 nines09

The DL on the surgery was it was to fix his furrowed brow……..

At least he doesn’t have to worry about his insurance. It’s a mega top of the line job. And if it’s not I guess his zillionare wife can cover the deductible and co-insurance and whatever else they try to call money YOU owe.

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austin_blue  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:41:58pm

re: #148 Stanley Sea

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That’s pretty early!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:44:01pm

71-year old man-baby excitedly plays in firetruck.

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:46:30pm

re: #150 ObserverArt

To clarify the woman had no gun, knife etc. and there was no threat to the officer in the driver’s seat. That’s my thinking. I had heard the news report on local TV this morning and it was the same.

OK—that makes sense—for some reason, I thought they were referring to the officer’s gun, which made no sense.

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CongoJack  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:47:51pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

And all I hear when I see this picture is, “HONK HONK GOES THE TRUCK” from The President’s Show on Comedy Central.

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nines09  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:49:07pm

re: #151 SpikeDad

That’s the entire problem. Johnny Ambien. Wants to bomb….Strafe… and injure. Even his own people. Beyond sad.

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petesh  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:50:11pm

re: #143 danarchy

It has been a month or so since I last checked, but this was actually true the last time people called bullshit. Of course the majority of the bills he signed were repealing regulations passed during the last administration(apparently they were actual bills not just EO’s) and the rest were things like naming buildings and stuff.

Hmph. I did not know that. OH well, thanks anyway.

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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:52:07pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

71-year old man-baby excitedly plays in firetruck.

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chilling and frightening on so many levels

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:52:51pm

re: #158 dangerman

chilling and frightening on so many levels

You mean as in the “firefighers” in Fahrenheit 451?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:56:50pm

Honor killing.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 17, 2017 • 2:59:02pm

Damn.
Mohamed Noor: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Noor is already the subject of a federal civil rights complaint. That, too, involved a woman who had called 911.

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:00:25pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:00:31pm
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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:00:39pm

re: #159 Teukka

You mean as in the “firefighers” in Fahrenheit 451?

they dont care that it’s a ludicrously brazen display for all to see that the president of the effin free world is a three year old

zero credibility to negotiate anything with anyone

and just crickets from everyone else (‘cept us)

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:01:44pm

re: #161 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Damn.
Mohamed Noor: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Noor is already the subject of a federal civil rights complaint. That, too, involved a woman who had called 911.

I bet that conservatives will suddenly become very concerned about police use of force.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:01:48pm

re: #160 The Vicious Babushka

Honor killing.

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Damn it.

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:01:54pm

“This is a very harsh signal to the rest of the world that the United States is essentially downgrading the importance of accountability for the commission of atrocity crimes,” said David Scheffer, a professor at Northwestern University’s Pritzker School of Law, who served as the first U.S. ambassador-at-large for war crimes issues. “This sends a strong signal to perpetrators of mass atrocities that the United States is not watching you anymore.”
foreignpolicy.com

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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:02:16pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So scared of a female Doctor, the Dalek committed suicide.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:03:29pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:03:35pm

re: #164 dangerman

they dont care that it’s a ludicrously brazen display for all to see that the president of the effin free world is a three year old

zero credibility to negotiate anything with anyone

and just crickets from everyone else (‘cept us)

Putin will negotiate with him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:04:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:07:03pm

guess what, Russia?
How about “feck no and have a nice cup of STFU”?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:07:39pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

guess what, Russia?
How about “feck no and have a nice cup of STFU”?

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My reply would be, “Bye Felicia.”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:10:00pm

One of my Facebook friends posted this:

Dear Hospital in which Sen. McCain is reviving treatment.
The only thing I ask of you is to take good care of him. Great care… make sure he’s better and healthy.
Then show him what his bill would be without his government insurance. Just show him… item by item. From surgery to $200 hospital gowns and slippers.
That’s it, that’s all I ask.

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:10:26pm

re: #173 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“Do svidaniya, Feliks!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:10:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:11:10pm

re: #174 I Would Prefer Not To

One of my Facebook friends posted this:

They ain’t wrong.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:11:44pm

re: #173 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My reply would be, “Bye Felicia.”

Sadly, trump’s reply is more likely to be “Yes, sir! Right away, sir!”

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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:12:42pm

Fuck you, farmers:

The Department of Homeland Security on Monday announced a one-time increase of 15,000 additional visas for low-wage seasonal workers for the remainder of this fiscal year, a seeming about-face from President Trump’s “Hire American” rhetoric, following heavy lobbying from fisheries, hospitality and other industries that rely on temporary foreign workers.

The increase represents a 45 percent bump from the number of H-2B visas normally issued for the second half of the fiscal year, said senior Homeland Security officials in a call with reporters.

The visas are for workers taking temporary jobs in the seafood, tourism, landscaping, construction and other seasonal industries — but not farm laborers

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:12:53pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Somewhere, an insurance executive is cackling maniacally whilst flipping through catalogs for private jets.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:13:43pm

re: #179 stpaulbear

Fuck you, farmers:

Specifically targeted at Mexican farmhands who swarm through the southlands every harvest season.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:14:05pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No Depression says Tom Price should “go fuck himself.”

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makeitstop  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:14:45pm

re: #181 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Specifically targeted at Mexican farmhands who swarm through the southlands every harvest season.

Now let’s all sit down to a $20 bowl of strawberries.
/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:14:51pm

re: #181 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Specifically targeted at Mexican farmhands who swarm through the southlands every harvest season.

but maybe not the shrimp boat workers in Texas we heard about the other day.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:15:20pm

re: #8 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

According to a recent Wash Post/ABC poll, his ratings dropped 2% AMONG REPUBLICANS.

Just 2%. It almost makes you wonder what he would have to do for Republicans to turn against him. We have a year and a half to find out, unfortunately.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:15:37pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

but maybe not the shrimp boat workers in Texas we heard about the other day.

Hey, rich people gotta get their shrimp and caviar somehow.

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Jack Burton  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:15:57pm

re: #175 jaunte

“Do svidaniya, Feliks!”

I was going to post that but, до свида́ния means “see you later”. There has to be another way to say “Bye” in Russian that implies “GTFO and don’t come back”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:18:11pm

I’m already anticipating GOP GAINS in the 2018 elections. We are that fucked.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:18:59pm

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m already anticipating GOP GAINS in the 2018 elections. We are that fucked.

Maybe, but even if that does happen, I’m not giving up. Not no way, not no how.

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dangerman  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:21:03pm

re: #170 ObserverArt

Putin will negotiate with him.

i wouldnt call what putin will do to him a “negotiation”

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:22:50pm

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m already anticipating GOP GAINS in the 2018 elections. We are that fucked.

Why? Democrats have been doing unexpectedly well in special elections, and Dems are gearing up to really contest every remotely close district we can get to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:22:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:25:10pm

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m already anticipating GOP GAINS in the 2018 elections. We are that fucked.

I don’t share your cynicism.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:25:24pm

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

Just 2%. It almost makes you wonder what he would have to do for Republicans to turn against him. We have a year and a half to find out, unfortunately.

First sign of movement. (Dem support also dropped by two points.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:25:31pm

re: #191 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Why? Democrats have been doing unexpectedly well in special elections, and Dems are gearing up to really contest every remotely close district we can get to.

Yep.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:25:37pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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British royalty risks its life on the front lines of wars, American royalty colludes with hostile foreign powers.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:27:29pm

Instagram

The ongoing tragedy of my life…this was my receipt today AND I DON’T EVEN LIKE VAN HALEN

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TedStriker  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:30:13pm

re: #197 Jebediah, RBG

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Nah, it’s just the store telling him he’s crazy:

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:30:30pm

re: #197 Jebediah, RBG

I’m OK with the fact that many of today’s yoots won’t get the reference, for I too do not really care for Van Halen.
(And even though I don’t, it still rubbed me the wrong way when Eddie fired bass player so he could put his son in the band.)

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:31:09pm

re: #198 TedStriker

Nah, it’s just the store telling him he’s crazy:

en.wikipedia.org

/

I guess that’s one way to get a message to somebody!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:32:34pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:32:47pm

Merriam Webster’s next word of the day will be quid pro quo

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:32:51pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

but maybe not the shrimp boat workers in Texas we heard about the other day.

And as they handle everything else, with utmost efficiency:

Businesses’ petitions will be reviewed on a first-come, first-served basis, and granted without regard to industry type, geographic location or firm size, the officials said. Given that the summer is half over and that normal processing time takes 30 to 60 days, the officials recommended that businesses pay the $1,225 fee for expedited processing within 15 days.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:33:26pm

re: #190 dangerman

i wouldnt call what putin will do to him a “negotiation”

I wouldn’t either. I was being facetious. Trump might call it a negotiation too, he would never admit he is getting screwed.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:34:39pm

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

Just 2%. It almost makes you wonder what he would have to do for Republicans to turn against him. We have a year and a half to find out, unfortunately.

Nothing.

The GOP has built a worldview, and an accompanying enclosed information system that at this point is basically a culture. And inside that culture, the just-so story is that the legislative goals they want to enact are what God, The People That Matter, and the Founders of the Nation really want. And the complementary just-so story is that there are myriad people conspiring to keep these “good things” from happening. Some people really believe this, some are cynics, but I’d argue most operate in a bullshit* mode where whatever they want at the moment becomes what is good for the nation and the world.

* as in “On Bullshit.”

This is all the “epistemological problem” I’ve been diagnosing for awhile. Nothing is true to these people, there’s only what they feel in the moment. The only constant is a dualism in which their “group” can be excused anything, and everybody not-of-the-group is entitled nothing. It the element that unifies all the various nuttiness of current GOP (none of which is “conservative”). Stated principles, morals, and ethics are meaningless—especially their own declared positions—because there’s no veracity, just affiliation.

(Which explains the incoherence consistent across discussions of Who Gets Freedom of Speech, Who Gets Freedom of Religion, Who Deserves to be Shoot, Who’s Sex is Immoral, et cetera. Different coins, same side.)

Trump serves their purpose, and he’ll be their holy fool, or god-emperor, or patsy, as needed. And if they discard him it won’t be because of a general uproar, or an ethical snag, but because his use-value has dried up.

At which point they will deny that he was every part of their body politic at all.

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:34:51pm

re: #165 Ace-o-aces

I bet that conservatives will suddenly become very concerned about police use of force.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:34:55pm

re: #191 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Why? Democrats have been doing unexpectedly well in special elections, and Dems are gearing up to really contest every remotely close district we can get to.

Don’t bring reason to an opportunity to panic now about something that isn’t clear in the future.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:35:59pm

This weirdo keeps getting suspended and re-registering. This is at least his tenth account.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:36:32pm

re: #201 Charles Johnson

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No, he doesn’t just like Hannity.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:37:29pm

re: #206 wrenchwench

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She’s as predictable as a sunrise. Pathetic.

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jaunte  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:37:31pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

MAGAGGING!

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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:38:11pm

Gah. I just went onto Facebook and read that a MN company that I like to support (Faribault Woolen Mills) is elated to be at the White House today for the ‘Made In America’ event. Not one of the comments is snarky so I don’t feel like being the first.

The owner is pictured with a woman who’s worked at the mill for over 60 years. She doesn’t quite have a smile on her face. I wonder how voluntarily she is there.

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Jack Burton  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:38:31pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

This weirdo keeps getting suspended and re-registering. This is at least his tenth account.

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Someone needs to read that guys tweets as Gollum.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:39:05pm

re: #213 Jack Burton

Someone needs to read that guys tweets as Gollum.

Mr. Serkis on line 1.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:40:51pm

re: #202 Stanley Sea

Merriam Webster’s next word of the day will be quid pro quo

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That was quick.

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EPR-radar  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:43:45pm

re: #162 jaunte

I can see why Republicans would be allergic to a State Department War Crimes office (hello, W Bush administration).

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Amory Blaine  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:47:02pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

He sounds like your everyday run of the mill conservative.

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:47:13pm

So, with Sessions looking to broaden asset forfeiture rules, does that mean “we the people” get to seize all of the yam’s money-laundering properties?

But in many cases, neither a criminal conviction nor even a criminal charge is necessary — under forfeiture laws in most states and at the federal level, mere suspicion of wrongdoing is enough to allow police to seize items permanently.

washingtonpost.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:47:42pm

re: #179 stpaulbear

It’s simple. Trump needs the cheap labor for his properties. I’ll bet you that’s where a big chunk of them will be working.

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:49:07pm

re: #212 stpaulbear

Gah. I just went onto Facebook and read that a MN company that I like to support (Faribault Woolen Mills) is elated to be at the White House today for the ‘Made In America’ event. Not one of the comments is snarky so I don’t feel like being the first.

The owner is pictured with a woman who’s worked at the mill for over 60 years. She doesn’t quite have a smile on her face. I wonder how voluntarily she is there.

Pendleton can fill in. I bet they won’t go to this White House.

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:49:37pm

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

Just 2%. It almost makes you wonder what he would have to do for Republicans to turn against him. We have a year and a half to find out, unfortunately.

I don’t wonder at all. They’ll turn against him the day after Fox and Sinclair turn against him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:51:11pm

re: #221 sagehen

I don’t wonder at all. They’ll turn against him the day after Fox and Sinclair turn against him.

Indeed. If FNC and Sinclair label him a liberal and then he’ll become bad news.

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EPR-radar  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:52:07pm

re: #218 BeachDem

So, with Sessions looking to broaden asset forfeiture rules, does that mean “we the people” get to seize all of the yam’s money-laundering properties?

But in many cases, neither a criminal conviction nor even a criminal charge is necessary — under forfeiture laws in most states and at the federal level, mere suspicion of wrongdoing is enough to allow police to seize items permanently.

washingtonpost.com

So Sessions’ view is apparently that if black people can no longer be property, he can at least prevent them from owning property. Because we all know who this will be most used against.

Naturally, this kind of asset forfeiture is rarely (if ever) applied to the kinds of white collar crime tr*mp is up to his Orange Hairpiece in.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:52:17pm

re: #220 wrenchwench

I have lusted after this coat for years.

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steve_davis  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:52:17pm

re: #115 Ace Rothstein

“All hat, no cattle” takes a whole different meaning with this asshole.

“mostly hat, some room for sheep.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:52:43pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:57:10pm

re: #218 BeachDem

So, with Sessions looking to broaden asset forfeiture rules, does that mean “we the people” get to seize all of the yam’s money-laundering properties?

But in many cases, neither a criminal conviction nor even a criminal charge is necessary — under forfeiture laws in most states and at the federal level, mere suspicion of wrongdoing is enough to allow police to seize items permanently.

washingtonpost.com

I have one word to describe Jeff Sessions, Communist!

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:59:23pm

re: #227 DodgerFan1988

I have one word to describe Jeff Sessions, Communist!

The practice is ripe for abuse. In one case in 2016, Oklahoma police seized $53,000 owned by a Christian band, an orphanage and a church after stopping a man on a highway for a broken taillight. A few years earlier, a Michigan drug task force raided the home of a self-described “soccer mom,” suspecting she was not in compliance with the state’s medical marijuana law. They proceeded to take “every belonging” from the family, including tools, a bicycle and her daughter’s birthday money.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:59:30pm

Mexico’s Vicente Fox banned from Venezuela

Venezuelan authorities have declared former Mexican President Vicente Fox a “persona non grata” and banned him from ever returning to the country.

Fox was in Venezuela, along with other former Latin American presidents, to act as an observer in Sunday’s non-binding referendum called by the opposition on government plans to reform the constitution.

In a series of tweets, the Venezuelan foreign minister, Samuel Moncada, says Fox abused the goodwill of the Venezuelan people and came to the country to “promote violence and the intervention by foreign world powers,” a claim that Fox rejected.

Hated by Trumpster and commie conspira-liars alike. Guy must be doing something right.

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2017 • 3:59:44pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:03:02pm

re: #220 wrenchwench

Pendleton can fill in. I bet they won’t go to this White House.

I’ve got one Pendleton wool blanket and one by Faribault Wool Mills. That should be a lifetime supply of good (and expensive) wool blankets.

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:05:08pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:05:40pm

re: #232 gocart mozart

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$10,000 of her time? It took her two goddamn months to do all that research?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:06:22pm

re: #233 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

$10,000 of her time? It took her two goddamn months to do all that research?

She’s an indecisive special lil’ snowflake.

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plansbandc  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:06:49pm

There’s actual water falling from the sky!

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:06:53pm

[…]

In 2012, the American Center for Law and Justice filed a lawsuit against the IRS on behalf of the Albuquerque Tea Party, as well as a host of other conservative groups whose request for tax-exempt status seemed to be put on hold.

The ACLJ is a conservative, Christian-based organization associated with Regent University School of Law in Virginia Beach, Va. The organization’s chief counsel is Jay Sekulow, a member of President Donald Trump’s private legal team.

[…]

The local chapter disbanded about 4 years ago.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:08:17pm

re: #232 gocart mozart

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:09:37pm

re: #234 Timothy Watson

She’s an indecisive special lil’ snowflake.

Methinks the lady* doth protest too much. This is probably just a ploy to try to soak them for whatever they’ll give her.

* = for extremely loose definitions of the term “lady”.

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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:09:47pm

re: #226 GlutenFreeJesus

I’ve got a Syndrum Twin sitting down in my basement so I can make those drum fill sounds. I bought a Boss T-Wah and a Flanger to use with the drums (they’re pretty limited on their own). I haven’t plugged them into anything for 20 years so I’m not sure if they still work well.

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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:11:27pm

re: #228 BeachDem

The practice is ripe for abuse. In one case in 2016, Oklahoma police seized $53,000 owned by a Christian band, an orphanage and a church after stopping a man on a highway for a broken taillight. A few years earlier, a Michigan drug task force raided the home of a self-described “soccer mom,” suspecting she was not in compliance with the state’s medical marijuana law. They proceeded to take “every belonging” from the family, including tools, a bicycle and her daughter’s birthday money.

Jesus f-ing Christ.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:11:47pm

Oh cool, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm on Blu-Ray!

That’s a pre-order.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:20:04pm

re: #232 gocart mozart

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So I just learned another detail about this Ann Coulter story that makes it worse. She basically wanted more legroom because she’s 6 feet tall, which fair enough. But this is the bad part: she mocked the woman in “her” seat for having “dachshund legs” in a radio interview. No wonder Delta called her out.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:21:21pm

re: #242 No Depression

So I just learned another detail about this Ann Coulter story that makes it worse. She basically wanted more legroom because she’s 6 feet tall, which fair enough. But this is the bad part: she mocked the woman in “her” seat for having “dachshund legs” in a radio interview. No wonder Delta called her out.

God, that woman is such an evil bitch.

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:24:11pm
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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:25:08pm

re: #242 No Depression

So I just learned another detail about this Ann Coulter story that makes it worse. She basically wanted more legroom because she’s 6 feet tall, which fair enough. But this is the bad part: she mocked the woman in “her” seat for having “dachshund legs” in a radio interview. No wonder Delta called her out.

Oh and another thing, the flight wasn’t even that long. It was just from New York to Palm Beach IIRC. Probably just a 2 hour flight, if that. She could’ve just sucked it up like a normal well-adjusted human being, but nope.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:27:13pm

Heartwarming story from a local church:

A desperate career criminal entered the back door of the church, where the staff was counting the collection. He pulled a knife and relieved one of them of $50. As he turned to rob the other, the man gave up the money, sat him down, and helped him see the love of Jesus pulled his piece and blew the thief’s ass off.

Moral of the parable: Never take a knife to a church robbery.

dothaneagle.com

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Cheechako  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:28:25pm

Heck, I was wondering if Coulter had purchased a half price stand-by ticket and missed out by being late to the gate.

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:29:37pm

re: #242 No Depression

So I just learned another detail about this Ann Coulter story that makes it worse. She basically wanted more legroom because she’s 6 feet tall, which fair enough. But this is the bad part: she mocked the woman in “her” seat for having “dachshund legs” in a radio interview. No wonder Delta called her out.

Wonkette has a good progression of the tweets.

wonkette.com

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:30:25pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Heartwarming story from a local church:

A desperate career criminal entered the back door of the church, where the staff was counting the collection. He pulled a knife and relieved one of them of $50. As he turned to rob the other, the man gave up the money, sat him down, and helped him see the love of Jesus pulled his piece and blew his ass off.

Moral of the parable: Never take a knife to a church robbery.

dothaneagle.com

Standing the Lord’s ground, on the Lord’s day.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:31:18pm

Monroe Calculating Machine Company, 1937

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:33:08pm

re: #245 No Depression

Oh and another thing, the flight wasn’t even that long. It was just from New York to Palm Beach IIRC. Probably just a 2 hour flight, if that. She could’ve just sucked it up like a normal well-adjusted human being, but nope.

And, if the Wonkette story is correct, she STILL had an extra-legroom seat, just a window seat instead of an aisle seat. (oh the humanity)

According to the Delta spokesperson’s email to WaPo,

It appears her new seat was in the same row, just not the exact seat she had selected. It was an exit row seat (has extra leg room) […] She was moved from an aisle to a window. Same space, a few seats over.

wonkette.com

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:33:45pm

re: #245 No Depression

Oh and another thing, the flight wasn’t even that long. It was just from New York to Palm Beach IIRC. Probably just a 2 hour flight, if that. She could’ve just sucked it up like a normal well-adjusted human being, but nope.

Jesus, how the hell did she come up with the “$10K of my time” figure? How badly did she overbill clients when she was practicing law?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:34:29pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Heartwarming story from a local church:

A desperate career criminal entered the back door of the church, where the staff was counting the collection. He pulled a knife and relieved one of them of $50. As he turned to rob the other, the man gave up the money, sat him down, and helped him see the love of Jesus pulled his piece and blew his ass off.

Moral of the parable: Never take a knife to a church robbery.

dothaneagle.com

I see they bill themselves as “the church with a heart,” which they no doubt keep in a jar on the pastor’s desk.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:36:43pm

re: #252 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, how the hell did she come up with the “$10K of my time” figure? How badly did she overbill clients when she was practicing law?

Wouldn’t you charge $10000/hr just to have to be Ann Coulter?

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:36:46pm

re: #251 BeachDem

And, if the Wonkette story is correct, she STILL had an extra-legroom seat, just a window seat instead of an aisle seat. (oh the humanity)

According to the Delta spokesperson’s email to WaPo,

It appears her new seat was in the same row, just not the exact seat she had selected. It was an exit row seat (has extra leg room) […] She was moved from an aisle to a window. Same space, a few seats over.

wonkette.com

Man, what an awful, miserable sack of shit she is.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:37:18pm

I’d love to see Mark Halpern and Coulter arrive to find that they both booked a seat that had subsequently been resold to a dachshund.

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:39:22pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:41:31pm

re: #252 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, how the hell did she come up with the “$10K of my time” figure? How badly did she overbill clients when she was practicing law?

At a rate of $100/hr, which is what my company bills my hourly rate as when they contract me out (not what I’m actually paid), that’s 100 hours, or 2.5 weeks of full-time work. If she’s spending that much time deciding on what plane to fly in and what seat to select, she’s … challenged.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:42:02pm

OK, this is either unfortunate timing, or a bold marketing attempt.
This evening, first time I’ve seen it, ad below the tweet auto-played when viewing article on USA Today.

Knightscope - Invest in the Future of Security

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:42:41pm

re: #258 teleskiguy

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Considering FDR’s 13-yr romp through the New Deal and WWII, that’s pretty delusional.

Note also the royal “We”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:42:44pm

re: #257 wrenchwench

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His lungs have been upgraded.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:45:28pm

Brilliant Boy Looks Strong, Handsome in Big Fire Truck

The Trump pictures in this article remind me so much of those “Kim Jung Ill pointing at things” pictures.

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:46:24pm

re: #263 No Depression

Bad link.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:46:34pm

re: #251 BeachDem

And, if the Wonkette story is correct, she STILL had an extra-legroom seat, just a window seat instead of an aisle seat. (oh the humanity)

According to the Delta spokesperson’s email to WaPo,

It appears her new seat was in the same row, just not the exact seat she had selected. It was an exit row seat (has extra leg room) […] She was moved from an aisle to a window. Same space, a few seats over.

wonkette.com

So she still had a seat? Oh how terrible. // Seriously fuck Ann Coulter. I really love Dingell’s zinger that worse things have happened to much better people.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:46:52pm

re: #264 teleskiguy

Bad link.

Fixed!

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:48:50pm

Right around here somewhere.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:49:22pm

re: #263 No Depression

Brilliant Boy Looks Strong, Handsome in Big Fire Truck

The Trump pictures in this article remind me so much of those “Kim Jung Ill pointing at things” pictures.

Actually it’s “Kim Jung-Il looking at things.” Here’s the tumblr:
KIM JONG-IL LOOKING AT THINGS

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:49:36pm

It’s possible and probable that Eric Schneiderman would be thinking of high-level office in the not-so-distant future and I would support that but for the loss of his tenacity in New York where it is so desperately needed.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:49:42pm

re: #267 teleskiguy

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Right around here somewhere.

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Won’t someone think of Ann Coulter though? //

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:50:16pm

re: #269 Barefoot Grin

It’s possible and probable that Eric Schneiderman would be thinking of high-level office in the not-so-distant future and I would support that but for the loss of his tenacity in New York where it is so desperately needed.

He definitely needs to be considered for some type of position in the next Dem administration.

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allegro  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:51:02pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Won’t someone think of Ann Coulter though? //

I’m so trying not to.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:51:07pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Won’t someone think of Ann Coulter though? //

Pity the 6-foot-tall white women who have to move airline seats.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:51:29pm

When the next shoe drops, will it be made in America?

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:51:39pm

re: #267 teleskiguy

Right at the end of the Aleutian Islands.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:52:08pm

re: #273 wheat-dogg

Pity the 6-foot-tall white women who have to move airline seats.

They’re the real victims. //

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:52:15pm

re: #272 allegro

I’m so trying not to.

Well played.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:53:10pm

re: #274 Barefoot Grin

When the next shoe drops, will it be made in America?

Nyet.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:54:30pm
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ozharas  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:55:00pm

re: #206 wrenchwench

This is huge news here - most of the comments I’ve read are amazed at the number of deaths at police hands - the general consensus I’ve read is that being Australian, she would have approached the police car, without fear, without defensive behaviour.

Comments include stories about other Australians travelling in the US having an encounter with police and being terrified by the overreaction.

E.g. We were in a rental car in America once, and broke down on the side of the freeway. We called a tow truck and waited. In the meantime a patrol car pulled up behind us. Being Australian, my husband didn’t even hesitate to get out of the car to greet the officer…. In less than a second the officer stepped back into a defensive stance and hands went to the gun. He screamed at my husband to get back into the car with hands out on the dash.

It was f**king terrifying. We did nothing wrong. Police would never, ever act like that where we are from. THAT IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOUR!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:55:13pm

re: #267 teleskiguy

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Right around here somewhere.

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Close to A-Las-ka

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:56:10pm

re: #256 Barefoot Grin

I’d love to see Mark Halpern and Coulter arrive to find that they both booked a seat that had subsequently been resold to a dachshund.

A far superior seat companion than either Ann or Mark.

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:56:45pm

re: #252 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, how the hell did she come up with the “$10K of my time” figure? How badly did she overbill clients when she was practicing law?

She thinks far too highly of herself.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:57:13pm

re: #281 Stanley Sea

Close to A-Las-ka

Question is, could Sarah Palin see the epicenter from her house?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:57:20pm

re: #280 ozharas

Our police are trained to be scared as shit.

It’s horrible.

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plansbandc  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:57:52pm

re: #280 ozharas

Sadly, it is normal behavior here.

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nines09  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:57:58pm

just a little 1x12 amp…….

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:58:11pm

re: #252 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, how the hell did she come up with the “$10K of my time” figure? How badly did she overbill clients when she was practicing law?

Coulter has always looked more like a heroin/meth supplier to me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:58:18pm

re: #280 ozharas

I think the 2nd Amendment has done more harm for this country than good.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:58:53pm

re: #286 plansbandc

Sadly, it is normal behavior here.

Yep and I really hate power tripping asshole cops.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 4:59:37pm

re: #285 Stanley Sea

Our police are trained to be scared as shit.

It’s horrible.

They’re conditioned to believe that people are going to shoot them or stab them and to treat every individual they meet with distrust. Concealed carry and the ready proliferation of deadly weapons has severely strained the police-citizen relationship.

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:01:01pm

re: #280 ozharas

Police are trained in the states to treat every situation as a threat to their safety, *every situation.* It’s absurd, and unarmed people die damn near daily at the hands of police in the states because of this fact, especially people of color.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:01:20pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Heartwarming story from a local church:

A desperate career criminal entered the back door of the church, where the staff was counting the collection. He pulled a knife and relieved one of them of $50. As he turned to rob the other, the man gave up the money, sat him down, and helped him see the love of Jesus pulled his piece and blew the thief’s ass off.

Moral of the parable: Never take a knife to a church robbery.

dothaneagle.com

I dare say I wouldn’t be surprised if, in similar circumstances, Father Art wouldn’t hand him the church credit card too while reminding him to check the alms box on the way out the door.

I’ll admit, if he tried to actually _hurt_ someone, I’d be the most likely one in the parish to use violence. But money? That’s what insurance and the offertory are for.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:01:53pm

re: #252 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, how the hell did she come up with the “$10K of my time” figure? How badly did she overbill clients when she was practicing law?

I don’t think Ann knows much about money or how much things are worth/cost.

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:02:09pm

re: #285 Stanley Sea

Our police are trained to be scared as shit.

It’s horrible.

Maybe if everyone and their brother didn’t have guns the police wouldn’t be petrified of the general populace. Just a thought.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:02:11pm

Why does he always do this pose in trucks? Does he think that the people who drive them for a living do it that way?

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plansbandc  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:02:44pm

re: #290 Eclectic Cyborg

It was terrifying to witness cops in full military gear with armored vehicles come down my street and rip apart the house two doors down from me to get a suspect. This is what they’ve become. It’s only going to get worse with the orange fascist “in charge”.

I think it would be wise to study up on what our police can and will do before traveling here from a foreign country.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:03:21pm

re: #294 b.d.

I don’t think Ann knows much about money or how much things are worth/cost.

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A $1500 coach seat? On Delta? Whoever she’s paying to buy her plane tickets, she is getting her pasty white skinny ass gouged.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:04:01pm

re: #290 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep and I really hate power tripping asshole cops.

On steriods.

It’s an epidemic.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:04:38pm

re: #294 b.d.

I’m in a $1,500 coach seat near someone who smells like a NYC cabdriver. Thanks Delta!

Any NYC cabdriver works 400x harder every day than she does.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:04:43pm

re: #287 nines09

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just a little 1x12 amp…….

Just a tumble with a dumble…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:04:50pm

re: #293 William Lewis

I dare say I wouldn’t be surprised if, in similar circumstances, Father Art wouldn’t hand him the church credit card too while reminding him to check the alms box on the way out the door.

I’ll admit, if he tried to actually _hurt_ someone, I’d be the most likely one in the parish to use violence. But money? That’s what insurance and the offertory are for.

A result of the robbery is a review by the local press of the area’s churches security postures. Wife’s RC church has a volunteer security team for use during services. They will not discuss whether they are armed or not. I know them, so I wouldn’t fart in church. If I went to church.

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:05:03pm

re: #298 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A $1500 coach seat? On Delta? Whoever she’s paying to buy her plane tickets, she is getting her pasty white skinny ass gouged.

You can get a first class seat for less than that. I used to fly all the damned time. I know from what I speak.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:05:56pm

re: #300 Timothy Watson

Any NYC cabdriver works 400x harder every day than she does.

And he’s a lot more interesting to listen to.

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:06:16pm

I wish I’d come up with this.

“All of Trump’s children were made in America. But four of them were made with foreign labor.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:06:39pm

Police doesn’t even make the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the United States in terms of mortality. That goes to loggers, roofers, fisherman, hell, even truck driving is more deadly than being a police officer. Their fear and rash reactions (Philando Castille, Tamir RIce) is total bullshit, total fucking bullshit.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:07:37pm

re: #306 teleskiguy

Police doesn’t even make the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the United States in terms of mortality. That goes to loggers, roofers, fisherman, hell, even truck driving is more deadly than being a police officer. Their fear and rash reactions (Philando Castille, Tamir RIce) is total bullshit, total fucking bullshit.

Obviously, we must arm loggers and roofers.

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weave  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:07:41pm

She is going into full meltdown over this.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:08:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:09:07pm

re: #294 b.d.

I don’t think Ann knows much about money or how much things are worth/cost.

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I’d feel bad for you Ann if you weren’t such a terrible person. How do you think the person sitting next to you feels?

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Timothy Watson  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:09:16pm

re: #308 weave

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She is going into full meltdown over this.

Maybe someone will send her to a sanatorium where she belongs.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:10:41pm

re: #309 goddamnedfrank

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Fuck off, you patronizing wanks. It’s not college educated liberals that are against more affordable post-secondary education for all Americans and as an American whose mother worked her ass off to become the first woman in her immediate family to get a degree, double fuck off.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:11:24pm

re: #306 teleskiguy

Police doesn’t even make the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the United States in terms of mortality. That goes to loggers, roofers, fisherman, hell, even truck driving is more deadly than being a police officer. Their fear and rash reactions (Philando Castille, Tamir RIce) is total bullshit, total fucking bullshit.

Part of it is driven by Western movies and TV, I think. Police are always portrayed as the redshirts - throwaways who get shot/stabbed/blown up/eaten alive by beetles from outer space. They go into the job thinking that it is extremely dangerous and that every encounter with a person could go wrong and end with them being on the 11:00 news. That paranoia is only reinforced when they are trained to be aggressive with the threat of deadly force because they never know when some black dude could be packing heat and desperate enough to draw and fire because he’s secretly a gangbanger that doesn’t want to go back to jail.

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:11:48pm
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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:14:17pm

re: #314 gocart mozart

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Ummm FDR?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:15:52pm

re: #314 gocart mozart

Driftglass is too funny. Love listening to his wife and him on their podcast.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:16:15pm

re: #315 No Depression

Ummm FDR?

John Adams?

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:17:13pm

re: #307 Decatur Deb

Obviously, we must arm loggers and roofers.

Most of them probably have rifles in their trucks. And loggers that venture into more remote terrain are probably carrying a sidearm, bears ‘n’ all.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:17:35pm

re: #309 goddamnedfrank

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:18:49pm

re: #310 HappyWarrior

I’d feel bad for you Ann if you weren’t such a terrible person. How do you think the person sitting next to you feels?

She’s a sociopath, I don’t think she has any frame of reference to establish empathy on that level.

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nowherenorth2  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:20:10pm

re: #319 goddamnedfrank

Bahaha this made my first day back to full time work excellent!

Love it

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:22:20pm

re: #308 weave

Lol!!! Like the Wicked Witch in “The Wizard of Oz” melted down. Coincidence?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:23:20pm

re: #314 gocart mozart

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Jimmy Carter and the Habitat for Humanity had no comment. Really Jesse. Go ahead. Defend these assholes. It’s your reputation not mine.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:23:29pm

re: #308 weave

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She is going into full meltdown over this.

I’m Melting

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:23:42pm

re: #317 Decatur Deb

John Adams?

Federalist.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:24:16pm

re: #320 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

She’s a sociopath, I don’t think she has any frame of reference to establish empathy on that leve.

I just think about how miserable her childhood must be. It would really explain why she’s the person she is now.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:25:19pm

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Federalist.

Ah. Missed the qualifier. That’s unusually humble of Trump.

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:25:22pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:26:03pm

re: #326 HappyWarrior

I just think about how miserable her childhood must be. It would really explain why she’s the person she is now.

So would a Martian brain-stem implant.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:26:15pm

re: #327 Decatur Deb

Ah. Missed the qualifier. That’s unusually humble of Trump.

Well it was Jesse, BillO’s replacement.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:26:48pm

re: #319 goddamnedfrank

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Being an Independent is a thing!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:27:58pm

re: #319 goddamnedfrank

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I mean I’m sorry but calling the Democrats snobby is laughable considering the Democratic platform just recently championed more affordable tuition for ALL American college students and President Obama talked about it being a goal to get all Americans some form for post-secondary education. Rick Santorum called Obama a snob for that. Santorum, he of the BA, MBA, and JD seriously said that.

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Cheechako  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:28:54pm

re: #318 teleskiguy

Most of them probably have rifles in their trucks. And loggers that venture into more remote terrain are probably carrying a sidearm, bears ‘n’ all.

Years ago, in Oregon, a logger I worked with kept a hand gun tucked in the opening between the seat and seat back. One day one of his workers had to move the pickup a short distance to get it out of the way. Somehow the gun fired. Now this was an older pickup with the gas tank behind the seat. The bullet punched a hole in the very bottom of the tank letting gasoline pour out. On top of that, the the tank was full with 20 gallons.

To make matters worse, the logger used the space under the seat as his “field office” where he kept all his Cat manuals and other important paperwork

When I arrived he had all his papers and manuals spread out on logs and stumps trying to get them to dry out.

The individual who caused the mess? He was last seen walking to town.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:29:11pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

I mean I’m sorry but calling the Democrats snobby is laughable considering the Democratic platform just recently championed more affordable tuition for ALL American college students and President Obama talked about it being a goal to get all Americans some form for post-secondary education. Rick Santorum called Obama a snob for that. Santorum, he of the BA, MBA, and JD seriously said that.

But Rick is White. See the problem.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:29:12pm

re: #298 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A $1500 coach seat? On Delta? Whoever she’s paying to buy her plane tickets, she is getting her pasty white skinny ass gouged.

My First Class ticket to LAX was cheaper than that. Maybe she flew to Japan or someplace?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:30:29pm

re: #333 Cheechako

…snip

The individual who caused the mess? He was last seen walking to town.

Only one of the individuals who caused it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:33:04pm
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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:34:01pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

Jimmy Carter and the Habitat for Humanity had no comment. Really Jesse. Go ahead. Defend these assholes. It’s your reputation not mine.

Jimmy Carter: Builds houses for other people.

Donald Trump: Builds a fence around a Scottish couple’s house and sends them the bill.

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Cheechako  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:35:52pm

re: #336 Decatur Deb

Only one of the individuals who caused it.

When you’re the boss you can do that. The logger took the gas tank out of the pick-up and got him and the tank a ride to town in one of the log trucks.

This is typical field repairs at a logging operation.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:35:59pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:37:24pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:37:48pm

re: #339 Cheechako

When you’re the boss you can do that. The logger took the gas tank out of the pick-up and got him and the tank a ride to town in one of the log trucks.

This is typical field repairs at a logging operation.

If he had a self-tapping screw of the right calibre, that would have got the truck to town. That’s how you do field-expedient repair on a ‘73 Land Rover.

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:39:12pm

re: #275 teleskiguy

Aftershock.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:39:14pm

re: #341 goddamnedfrank

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Knowing Lee, it probably isn’t cruel enough.

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Interesting Times  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:39:34pm

re: #341 goddamnedfrank

What’s “MTP” in this context? Every time I see that acronym, I can only think of the TV program that expertly showcases Chuck Todd’s goatee.

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:40:24pm

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Knowing Lee, it probably isn’t cruel enough.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:40:52pm

re: #226 GlutenFreeJesus

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Oh no. This is worse!

Y. Bhekhirst - Hot In The Airport [with lyrics]

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Cheechako  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:41:40pm

re: #342 Decatur Deb

If he had a self-tapping screw of the right calibre, that would have got the truck to town. That’s how you do field-expedient repair on a ‘73 Land Rover.

It was a .45….not many self-tapping screws that size. Plus there’s only so much room for spare parts in a pick-up.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:41:59pm

re: #346 teleskiguy

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Well, didn’t they cut most of the high-end tax cuts from this version of the bill? So not only does it not kill the poor people, but they don’t even gain any tangible benefit from it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:42:20pm

re: #345 Interesting Times

What’s “MTP” in this context? Every time I see that acronym, I can only think of the TV program that expertly showcases Chuck Todd’s goatee.

Motion to proceed. A required procedural vote to bring the bill to the floor.

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bratwurst  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:42:22pm

This is perfectly normal, routine presidential administration behavior. If Hillary had won, she’d be doing the same thing. /

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:42:49pm

re: #341 goddamnedfrank

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So. This version of TraitorCare is toast but how long till one that is evil enough for everyone is scribed?

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EPR-radar  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:44:21pm

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Knowing Lee, it probably isn’t cruel enough.

Every time Republicans fail due to internal discord, an angel gets its wings.

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:44:23pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:45:38pm

re: #352 William Lewis

So. This version of TraitorCare is toast but how long till one that is evil enough for everyone is scribed?

That’s the problem. Expecting Republicans to abstain from giant tax cuts is like expecting vampires running a blood bank to be teetotalers.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:46:05pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:48:59pm

I truly think the RudePundit is a good voice for these troubled times.

His latest headline: “Trump voters were wrong, so fuck their opinions”

rudepundit.blogspot.com

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:49:20pm

re: #356 FormerDirtDart

Oh dear! She’s not praying hard enough to her White Jesus.

I wonder how much NBC is paying her to lose to reruns. Lol.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:50:38pm

re: #358 Patricia Kayden

Oh dear! She’s not praying hard enough to her White Jesus.

I wonder how much NBC is paying her to lose to reruns. Lol.

Sunday Night Football can’t come soon enough for NBC

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:53:49pm
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nines09  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:54:09pm

re: #301 William Lewis

Joe can tap into that pixie dust. No doubt there is some “magic” in some circuits. And some can make it talk.
Ken Fischer
Pixie Dust

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:54:16pm

re: #351 bratwurst

This is perfectly normal, routine presidential administration behavior. If Hillary had won, she’d be doing the same thing. /

JUST IN: Tillerson to shut down State Department office on war crimes: report hill.cm

Just until they retool from “con” to “pro”.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:54:40pm

36% approval, a bucket load of lies & a Kim Jong Un style photo-op with toys.

What a day to be a GOP.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:55:12pm

re: #358 Patricia Kayden

Oh dear! She’s not praying hard enough to her White Jesus.

I wonder how much NBC is paying her to lose to reruns. Lol.

If one goes by The Hill comments—a cesspool by any standards but their own—Megyn was already toast at Fox for having crossed DJT, so the choices are: a)she was always a liberal posing as a conservative, so good riddance; 2) she became a feminazi, bleeding out of…; see) who cares, liberal tears cuz she’s making $17million a year.

I’m actually going with C (see). Arranging a special coach seat rather than paying for first class would actually cost her $10,000.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:57:03pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:58:25pm

re: #352 William Lewis

So. This version of TraitorCare is toast but how long till one that is evil enough for everyone is scribed?

The more this bill crashes the more there are calls for bi-partisan work on repairing the ACA. The Republicans cannot get their own party to agree. It shows Mitch isn’t the great leader everyone said he is (Ryan too). This hurts them.

And don’t forget the real reason behind this. Their fucking voters found out they liked the ACA all along and really want more of it not less. That means what we are seeing is posturing out of the light of day.

They want to say they did their best for the one part of the base, but they now see the need to fix the ACA as it should have been done by BOTH parties back in 2009/10 for the sake of America….to play to the base that they will need to get reelected.

They need to use their time now to transition to the new message where they try to look like heros. They can even say that is what Trump wanted on the campaign trail….good healthcare. We got it done.

It’s called politics and it is still driven by votes. Sometimes it appears people forget that people bitching back home beats pundits yakking and politician posturing.

I think we should treat some of this as a victory. But that is just me. We do need to keep on them.

I heard Ron Johnson from up your way is probably a no too. I bet Portman from here in Ohio grows balls again given to him by Paul, Collins and others. He never seems able to find his own. There will be others. Imma keep watching.

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 5:58:49pm

re: #365 Stanley Sea

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Haha get fucked, Mitch McConnell!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:00:12pm

re: #365 Stanley Sea

Yeah right. The “serious” problems are that it was a Democratic President that came up with this piece of legislation and they cannot stand the fact that it is doing what it should be doing. That and Barack Obama was ::: shudder ::: ::: gasp ::: (they would not be able to say it.)

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BeachDem  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:00:20pm

re: #314 gocart mozart

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Or as Hunter from kos describes Watters:

a clump of tissue cultivated from his (O’Reilly’s)second chin that had been cultivated in a Fox News laboratory until it had turned into a Real Boy

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Interesting Times  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:00:30pm

re: #367 No Depression

Haha get fucked, Mitch McConnell!

Indeed. These are positive developments to be sure, but I’m still wary and won’t believe it’s over until the fat lady sings evil turtle cries like Boehner.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:00:43pm

re: #356 FormerDirtDart

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Awww poor Megyn. Now she knows what America really thinks of her.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:01:27pm

Thank God for the ineptitude of the wingnuts

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Dave In Austin  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:02:19pm

Boom goes the CheetoCare…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:03:21pm

Ivanka Trump wrote this==>

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wheat-dogg  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:04:44pm

I am watching season 2 of House of Cards. The two big scandals are:
(1) racy photos of the Vice President’s wife, and
(2) funds from China being funneled into American politicians’ pockets through a ruthless billionaire.

Big drama for the TV. Total duds in today’s Trumpreality.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:04:54pm
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weave  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:06:34pm

re: #363 Stanley Sea

36% approval, a bucket load of lies & a Kim Jong Un style photo-op with toys.

What a day to be a GOP.

Even Rasmussen has him down to 43%

By the way, you ever watch their stupid Rasmussen Minutes?

rasmussenreports.com

Jesus, so obviously biased to the point of being over the top propaganda. Their latest one about the CNN meme war is so over the top with the metal music and sound bites you almost can’t help cheering on Trump. Hopefully they don’t show that before asking people to rate his job performance.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:06:41pm

re: #376 Stanley Sea

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If the voters hold them accountable that will be some serious Obama’s Revenge.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:07:56pm

Rachel is going on about the Republicans whole healthcare plan to get through this week to get a vote fell apart today all of a sudden. Faster than anyone thought it would crash. It didn’t even take the CBO score to harpoon it.

She is talking about Ron Johnson now being a no. Up to 5. There will be more.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:08:37pm

We might not be able to repeal Obamacare but at least we’ll be able to say Merry Christmas again….

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Cheechako  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:09:29pm

re: #379 ObserverArt

Rachel is going on about the Republicans whole healthcare plan to get through this week to get a vote fell apart today all of a sudden. Faster than anyone thought it wopuld crash. It didn’t even take the CBO score to harpoon it.

She is talking about Ron Johnson now being a no. Up to 5. There will be more.

Now you can count fence sitter Lisa Murkowski to be a no vote.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:10:33pm

re: #379 ObserverArt

Rachel is going on about the Republicans whole healthcare plan to get through this week to get a vote fell apart today all of a sudden. Faster than anyone thought it would crash. It didn’t even take the CBO score to harpoon it.

She is talking about Ron Johnson now being a no. Up to 5. There will be more.

If Johnson (spit!) is a no it is because the bill is not evil enough and doesn’t actively murder poor people.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:10:43pm

The GOP could just claim that they repealed and replace Obamacare and their base will believe them

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gocart mozart  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:12:16pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:13:11pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:13:52pm

re: #385 FormerDirtDart

Gosh, what would they have done if he was black?

/ half

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majii  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:16:28pm

re: #166 HappyWarrior

“Honor killing.”

Well, HW, as you and I both know, only Muslims do honor killings. /s/ SMDH.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:17:38pm

re: #384 gocart mozart

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I cannot believe he did the same pose again.

It’s real?

my dog

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:17:56pm

re: #382 William Lewis

If Johnson (spit!) is a no it is because the bill is not evil enough and doesn’t actively murder poor people.

Most likely. But the bill is still dead. And it is being reported by Rachel a lot of moderates will be piling on as no votes too.

So the party is split big time. They are facing the problems of taking on the Tea Party and still trying to act decent. Split between wingnuts and moderates. We used to talk about that here…how they invited in the crazy and it would bite them.

And now Rachel is talking about the people back home being the real deciders. People. Voters.

Again dead is dead. Now let’s see how much the people can hold them to working to repair the ACA or start new. But bottom line. Obama set a standard that will need to be met or exceeded. The people want it.

And the damn Democratic Party better be working off this and using it at every turn.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:18:02pm

Freep comments (89) on Jefferson Beauregard, triggered by asset seizure balloon, are almost 100% strongly anti-Sessions. Frankly, Bubba, I don’t give a damn.

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:18:06pm

R. Kelly needs to DIAF.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:18:51pm

So, it appears that Sen. Moran has now opposed Trumpcare and McConnell doesn’t have the votes to pass this excremental piece of regressive redistribution of wealth from everyone to the rich.

45+ GOP senators thought this crap was sufficient to pass. They had no problem with millions of people losing coverage all so a handful of rich people get their tax cuts.

Now, a guy who didn’t mind his own constituents losing coverage is suddenly a hero? No.

Just no.

And this wont be the end of Trumpcare either. They’ll try some more games too. The last time Trumpcare died, it should have been killed permanently. It’s zombiecare - it just wont die.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:21:31pm

Looks like the Senate get their long vacation after all.

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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:25:19pm

re: #356 FormerDirtDart

The Hill ✔ @thehill
Megyn Kelly ratings hit new low as she once again loses to rerun of America’s Funniest Home Videos

When I had cable, AFHV was one of the shows I got addicted to. When I realized that everything I was watching was junk, I cancelled my cable and went back to an antenna. I would definitely watch AFHV before I’d watch Kelly.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:25:25pm

re: #393 b.d.

Looks like the Senate get their long vacation after all.

They’ll be back.

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meteor  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:25:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:27:35pm
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nines09  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:27:56pm

re: #392 lawhawk

AND… Watch the mouths move on the right as one after another Republican says, “Well you know I had concerns…. You heard me….”
And you know as well as I do all that’s keeping this POS bill from passing was the sheer evil of a section of the GOP that didn’t see enough misery and pain. It was not “good” people speaking up on the right. It was the Freedom Caucus demanding more dead bodies. Bring out your dead….

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:27:57pm

Note that the yam had senators over to the WH tonight.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:29:02pm

re: #351 bratwurst

My first thought?

What do they have planned?

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:29:34pm

re: #400 Romantic Heretic

My first thought?

What do they have planned?

My thought exactly.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:29:43pm

re: #399 Stanley Sea

Note that the yam had senators over to the WH tonight.

I note that. And it crashed anyway. Maybe Trump blew it for Mitch.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:30:05pm

re: #399 Stanley Sea

Note that the yam had senators over to the WH tonight.

Anyone else hear the synchronized squeaking of multiple closet doors opening to reveal a number of complete human remains stripped of skin, tendon, muscle, and organs?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:30:10pm

Moran did town halls over the 4th holiday.

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meteor  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:32:22pm

re: #289 Eclectic Cyborg

Me too.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:32:30pm

re: #400 Romantic Heretic

My first thought?

What do they have planned?

Vodka, Pelmeni and Veal Orlov perhaps?

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nines09  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:33:44pm
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fern01  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:34:01pm

re: #381 Cheechako

Now you can count fence sitter Lisa Murkowski to be a no vote.

She just lost the billion dollars promised to Alaska - so she’ll become a no. Can read these folks like a book - a book full of money.

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:34:18pm
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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:35:26pm

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Knowing Lee, it probably isn’t cruel enough.

It’s the fear of single-payer. They know the GOP bill is shit and the possibility it’ll lead to the dreaded single-payer is why they’re not supporting this abomination of a bill.

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ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:36:10pm

re: #409 teleskiguy

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Heh. I was just thinking about that look Pence is giving Trump. I was going to ask if there is a school that teaches that stand behind the bigger politician and fawn thing.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:36:57pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:37:08pm

re: #407 nines09

Gibson got in trouble a few years ago for using illegally imported wood. They had to pay a $300,000 fine.

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Cheechako  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:37:45pm

re: #408 fern01

She just lost the billion dollars promised to Alaska - so she’ll become a no. Can read these folks like a book - a book full of money.

And the reports here were saying a billion dollars (spread over many years and not guaranteed) was not enough to buy her vote. So, she’s off the hook.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:38:58pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:39:28pm

re: #415 FormerDirtDart

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“You fucking dumbass. At least I waited ‘till the end to get caught.”

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No Depression  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:40:28pm

re: #412 FormerDirtDart

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The guy who programmed this simulation is just fucking with us now.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:40:58pm

re: #341 goddamnedfrank

So now can we have our August recess?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:41:17pm

re: #413 stpaulbear

They got screwed. Paged in 2011

But Juszkiewicz says the government won’t tell him exactly how — or if — his company has violated that law.

“We’re in this really incredible situation. We have been implicated in wrongdoing and we haven’t been charged with anything,” he says. “Our business has been injured to millions of dollars. And we don’t even have a court we can go to and say, ‘Look, here’s our position.’”

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fern01  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:42:17pm

re: #414 Cheechako

And the reports here were saying a billion dollars (spread over many years and not guaranteed) was not enough to buy her vote. So, she’s off the hook.

But she hadn’t come out in public and said that - So we shall never know what she planned to do before the bill was dead.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:42:37pm

re: #415 FormerDirtDart

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stpaulbear  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:44:35pm

re: #421 Unshaken Defiance

“You, on the other hand, are a crook.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:44:55pm

re: #422 stpaulbear

“You, on the other hand, are a crook.”

Dude, yes.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:46:40pm

re: #412 FormerDirtDart

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Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:46:57pm

re: #388 Stanley Sea

I cannot believe he did the same pose again.

It’s real?

my dog

He is six years old.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:47:51pm

re: #424 lawhawk

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How many ways are meteorologists going to find to take the piss out of the President for Tropical Storm Don?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:47:59pm

re: #422 stpaulbear

“You, on the other hand, are a crook.”

I surrender. Waaay better.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:48:35pm

CNN just played the clip of the yam saying, “it will be sooo good and soooooo easy!”

about the repeal & replace

Brutal

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:49:37pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:50:04pm

re: #287 nines09

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just a little 1x12 amp…….

Some obscure off-brand…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:50:27pm

re: #426 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

How many ways are meteorologists going to find to take the piss out of the President for Tropical Storm Don?

“”Today, slow moving depression Don speaks to the Senate about his recent reigning defeat.”

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:50:58pm

re: #381 Cheechako

Now you can count fence sitter Lisa Murkowski to be a no vote.

Even after they have her $17 billion for AK healthcare?

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nines09  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:51:27pm

re: #413 stpaulbear

Gibson got in trouble a few years ago for using illegally imported wood. They had to pay a $300,000 fine.

Gibson has engaged in shit biz practices for years. Forcing small shop owners to outright buy quantities to have the “right” to sell shit. Quality went south years ago. I saw 3K axes 2 years ago that had bad frets and overspray. Absolute shit set ups. Bad wiring. I am a Fender guy, but owned older Gibsons, all sold. I would never buy another Gibson in my lifetime. Too many other well made caring builders out there. Bad JuJu.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:52:21pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:52:49pm

re: #424 lawhawk

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Cheechako  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:53:07pm

re: #420 fern01

But she hadn’t come out in public and said that - So we shall never know what she planned to do before the bill was dead.

In addition, the insertion of provisions that benefit Alaska at the expense of other states carries an inherent risk that they will be repealed and replaced as soon as other senators say, “Where’s mine?”

That could happen in a year or two when members of Congress or the administration look for budget cuts and see percentages out of proportion to the state’s population and costs.

“Let’s just say that they do something that’s so Alaska-specific just to, quote, ‘get me,’ ” Murkowski said in June. “Then you have a nationwide system that doesn’t work. That then comes crashing down and Alaska’s not able to kind of keep it together on its own.”

Source: Alaska bonus in Senate bill creates health care distraction

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:54:07pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:55:32pm

re: #298 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A $1500 coach seat? On Delta? Whoever she’s paying to buy her plane tickets, she is getting her pasty white skinny ass gouged.

I just spent about $700 on a coach seat from Sydney to the west coast, and about $550 for one from the west coast to Singapore. Leaving enough from the $1500 to fly from anywhere to almost anywhere in the continental US.

If that took $10,000 worth of her time, she needs to hire a personal assistant (if anyone would work for her).

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:56:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:57:14pm

re: #439 FormerDirtDart

We’ll get some dems to cross over!!!

LOL

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:57:16pm

re: #438 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I just spent about $700 on a coach seat from Sydney to the west coast, and about $550 for one from the west coast to Singapore. Leaving enough from the $1500 to fly from anywhere to almost anywhere in the continental US.

If that took $10,000 worth of her time, she needs to hire a personal assistant (if anyone would work for her).

$9500 of that was for the only personal assistant who will work for her.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:57:43pm

re: #441 Belafon

$9500 of that was for the only personal assistant who will work for her.

Is that the hourly rate?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:58:30pm

re: #415 FormerDirtDart

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Now that gives me an idea about updating Glilbert & Sullivan’s Ruddigore to a Trumpified version–Trumpybore. Where Trumpybore is confronted by deceased Presidents climbing out of their pictures and confronting him!

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 17, 2017 • 6:58:36pm

re: #439 FormerDirtDart

I am surprised… at how quickly it went down. (No more phone banking for me this week…hurrah!)

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nines09  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:03:13pm

re: #430 Jebediah, RBG

Some obscure off-brand…

Last one I stood in front of had a 75K price tag. Yep. Simple 1X12 amp. Amazing thing is, Dumble is still alive. But who pulls all the diamonds out of the mine at once?

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:07:36pm

re: #391 teleskiguy

R. Kelly needs to DIAF.

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Holy shit. That guy is nuts. Evil nuts.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2017 • 7:11:43pm

re: #433 nines09

Gibson has engaged in shit biz practices for years. Forcing small shop owners to outright buy quantities to have the “right” to sell shit. Quality went south years ago. I saw 3K axes 2 years ago that had bad frets and overspray. Absolute shit set ups. Bad wiring. I am a Fender guy, but owned older Gibsons, all sold. I would never buy another Gibson in my lifetime. Too many other well made caring builders out there. Bad JuJu.

I was at a music store recently & looked at some guitars I couldn’t afford. The high end Epiphones were much better than all the Gibsons and the affordable Epi’s (like my Casino Coupe) were so close that I’d not pay the extra for the Gibson name. The only thing worth the money is the Gibson pickups. But I am just a newb.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2017 • 8:03:24pm

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