Trump Signs Russia Sanctions Bill, With Statement Lashing Out at Congress and Boasting About His Deal-Making Prowess

Just more unhinged egomania from the Narcissist in Chief
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It took him several days, and he barred the press from covering it, but the Trump-thing finally signed the Russia sanctions bill this morning, accompanied by a formal signing statement complaining about the bill’s “unconstitutionality,” and a much less formal press release full of the unhinged attacks, non sequiturs and egomaniacal boasting we’re accustomed to seeing from this pathetic man-baby in the Oval Office.

Clearly he doesn’t like having to do something that’s sure to displease his best buddy in the Kremlin.

The LA Times has both the signing statement and the press release lashing out at Congress here.

Here’s the press release, with the most ridiculous sections marked in bold.

Statement by President Trump on signing the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act:

Today, I signed into law the “Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act,” which enacts new sanctions on Iran, North Korea, and Russia. I favor tough measures to punish and deter bad behavior by the rogue regimes in Tehran and Pyongyang. I also support making clear that America will not tolerate interference in our democratic process, and that we will side with our allies and friends against Russian subversion and destabilization.

That is why, since taking office, I have enacted tough new sanctions on Iran and North Korea, and shored up existing sanctions on Russia.

Since this bill was first introduced, I have expressed my concerns to Congress about the many ways it improperly encroaches on Executive power, disadvantages American companies, and hurts the interests of our European allies.

My Administration has attempted to work with Congress to make this bill better. We have made progress and improved the language to give the Treasury Department greater flexibility in granting routine licenses to American businesses, people, and companies. The improved language also reflects feedback from our European allies – who have been steadfast partners on Russia sanctions – regarding the energy sanctions provided for in the legislation. The new language also ensures our agencies can delay sanctions on the intelligence and defense sectors, because those sanctions could negatively affect American companies and those of our allies.

Still, the bill remains seriously flawed – particularly because it encroaches on the executive branch’s authority to negotiate. Congress could not even negotiate a healthcare bill after seven years of talking. By limiting the Executive’s flexibility, this bill makes it harder for the United States to strike good deals for the American people, and will drive China, Russia, and North Korea much closer together. The Framers of our Constitution put foreign affairs in the hands of the President. This bill will prove the wisdom of that choice.

Yet despite its problems, I am signing this bill for the sake of national unity. It represents the will of the American people to see Russia take steps to improve relations with the United States. We hope there will be cooperation between our two countries on major global issues so that these sanctions will no longer be necessary.

Further, the bill sends a clear message to Iran and North Korea that the American people will not tolerate their dangerous and destabilizing behavior. America will continue to work closely with our friends and allies to check those countries’ malignant activities.

I built a truly great company worth many billions of dollars. That is a big part of the reason I was elected. As President, I can make far better deals with foreign countries than Congress.

Very striking how conciliatory Trump is toward Russia, while labeling North Korea and Iran “malignant.”

But I think the most darkly amusing part is where he says he signed the bill “for the sake of national unity.” In just six months, Trump has done more damage to national unity than any president in history, sown discord among races and faiths, signed legislation that blatantly violates the Constitution, endorsed police brutality, and even managed to give a speech so horrible that the Boy Scouts had to apologize for it.

“National unity” is a thing of the past under this benighted administration, as is respect for the United States among our foreign allies.

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477 comments

1
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:33:53am

He knows that these sanctions will cut into his company’s bottom line, but he cannot risk a veto.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:33:58am
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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:34:50am
unhinged attacks, non sequiturs and egomaniacal boasting

When NPD meets dementia.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:42:00am

What’s infuriating is that he will not enforce the sanctions against Russia but will use the charges against Iran and North Korea to provoke hostilities.

Oh, and I just heard on CNN that he claimed Pres. of Mexico called to congratulate him on the great work he’s doing on the border, wall. Mexico denies. That’s what a lifetime of lying will do to you.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:42:12am
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FormerDirtDart  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:45:26am
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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:45:32am

reposted from the down of stairs

another call that likely was never made

Said Trump earlier this week: “As you know, the border was a tremendous problem and they’re close to 80 percent stoppage. And even the president of Mexico called me — they said their southern border, very few people are coming because they know they’re not going to get through our border, which is the ultimate compliment.”

Pena Nieto denies that ever happened.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:45:38am

Has our so-called president commented yet on Russia’s expelling U.S. diplomats and personnel?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:46:29am

Good

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:46:45am

re: #8 Sir John Barron

Has our so-called president commented yet on Russia’s expelling U.S. diplomats and personnel?

NOPE

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nines09  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:46:47am

Can’t wait for Trump to claim “god” called him. You know that’s coming.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:47:02am
Since this bill was first introduced, I have expressed my concerns to Congress about the many ways it improperly encroaches on Executive power, disadvantages American companies, and hurts the interests of our European allies.

Translation: “It’s hurting MY companies.”

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:47:05am
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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:47:14am

re: #7 dangerman

That is the “ultimate compliment” Trump will get from Pena Nieto.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:55:35am

Just got off the phone with former president Barack Obama, who called to tell me how great my posts at LGF were, that they were the best he’d ever read.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:55:35am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart

Quinnipiac Poll @QuinnipiacPoll
US Voter opinion - President Trump’s job approval trend shows lowest approval & highest disapproval since inauguration
12:15 PM - Aug 2, 2017
8 8 Replies 74 74 Retweets 76 76 likes

Although it is always pleasing to observe increasing disapproval of the yam, I am not a fan of polls to advise us whether a President is actually doing the right thing. Polls measure only popularity, not whether actions are better for the country or the world. Given the lack of knowledge of most American voters and the deceptiveness or incompetence of much of the media, this says nothing about whether our country is truly headed in the right or wrong direction.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:56:35am

“… “In Maoist insurgencies, the formation of a counter-state is essential to seizing state power,” the memo reads. “Functioning as a hostile complete state acting within an existing state, it has an alternate infrastructure. Political warfare operates as one of the activities of the ‘counter-state.’” I was able to review large portions of the memo, and to secure extracts for publication.

“Because the left is aligned with Islamist organizations at local, national and international levels, recognition should be given to the fact that they seamlessly interoperate through coordinated synchronized interactive narratives … These attacks narratives are pervasive, full spectrum and institutionalized at all levels. They operate in social media, television, the 24-hour news cycle in all media and are entrenched at the upper levels of the bureaucracies.”

Sources offered conflicting accounts of how the memo came to McMaster’s attention. Several sources with knowledge of the events said they believed the memo made its way to Trump’s desk, a version others disputed.

Higgins’s bosses at the NSC were not pleased with the memo, sources say, the creation of which was not part of Higgins’s job. Higgins, seen as an ally of White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, had only served on the council for a couple months. …”

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:57:36am

re: #6 FormerDirtDart

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Obviously Dems are paying closer attention to the spawn, what with the 1% favorable rating.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:57:48am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart

Hell, Rasmussen has been consistently brutal on Trump of late, and they blatantly favor Republicans.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:59:26am

re: #17 FormerDirtDart

“Because the left is aligned with Islamist organizations at local, national and international levels, recognition should be given to the fact that they seamlessly interoperate through coordinated synchronized interactive narratives

good dog….

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 2, 2017 • 10:59:56am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:00:18am

re: #17 FormerDirtDart

Higgins’s bosses at the NSC were not pleased with the memo, sources say, the creation of which was not part of Higgins’s job. Higgins, seen as an ally of White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, had only served on the council for a couple months. …”

The NSC is not the ideal place for Breitbart commenters.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:01:10am

re: #9 Stanley Sea

Good

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Which are you guys? I’m a globalamisist.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:02:05am

re: #17 FormerDirtDart

Brietbart nutjobs sprinkled in the NSC complaining about Leftist/Islamist Obama Deepstate Holdovers, oh my.

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:03:43am

re: #15 Sir John Barron

Just got off the phone with former president Barack Obama, who called to tell me how great my posts at LGF were, that they were the best he’d ever read.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:03:56am

re: #21 FormerDirtDart

My iPhone almost spontaneously combusted from the burn by McCain.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:04:21am
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A dark and stormy covfefe  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:04:29am

No matter how bad things are, the stupidity of bigots will always act as a pick-me-up.

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:05:32am

re: #16 Hecuba’s daughter

Although it is always pleasing to observe increasing disapproval of the yam, I am not a fan of polls to advise us whether a President is actually doing the right thing. Polls measure only popularity, not whether actions are better for the country or the world. Given the lack of knowledge of most American voters and the deceptiveness or incompetence of much of the media, this says nothing about whether our country is truly headed in the right or wrong direction.

fwiw

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:05:53am

re: #21 FormerDirtDart

Sen. McCain on Pres. Trump’s statements: “Framers of our Constitution made the Congress and the President coequal branches of government.”

Yeah, I’m sure that little dig at ‘my subordinates in Congress’ isn’t going over real well today.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:05:57am

Trump voters might as well just openly teach their kids to lie about everything.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:06:24am
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:08:21am

re: #23 Barefoot Grin

Which are you guys? I’m a globalamisist.

Won’t fit on my license plate, need something with less letters.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:08:32am

re: #29 dangerman

fwiw

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What caused that month long dip in 2014?

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:09:43am

re: #31 jaunte

Trump voters might as well just openly teach their kids to lie about everything.

Don’t they already? Trump voters have a very limited affiliation with the truth; they feed their misinformation to their offspring and anyone else who will listen.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:10:09am

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

And mostly themselves.

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:10:47am

re: #31 jaunte

Trump voters might as well just openly teach their kids to lie about everything.

from that tweet earlier this AM, they seem to think if you’re honest about your lying it raises it to some other level of….something

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:11:49am

re: #37 dangerman

That wasn’t me, I don’t like cookies, it’s not really a “jar” is it?

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:12:08am

re: #31 jaunte

Trump voters might as well just openly teach their kids to lie about everything.

Well, when many are taught that black people get college for free (see previous thread), should we expect anything different?

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:12:42am
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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:12:59am

re: #34 Timothy Watson

What caused that month long dip in 2014?

no idea.
i really should have limited it to the last six months anyway:

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:13:07am

re: #29 dangerman

Poll shows what people think not the truth. It never tells us whether the direction is right only whether responders think it’s right.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:13:19am

PIVOT!

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:14:07am

re: #30 makeitstop

Yeah, I’m sure that little dig at ‘my subordinates in Congress’ isn’t going over real well today.

I can only guess that the boarding school he was shipped off to never had American history classes about our form and makeup of government. 3 EQUAL branches of government seems foreign to him and his worshipers.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:14:09am

re: #43 jaunte

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PIVOT!

So much pivot it’ll crash Excel!

(God, that was an awful accounting joke.)

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:15:11am

re: #38 jaunte

That wasn’t me, I don’t like cookies, it’s not really a “jar” is it?

it was something bizarre like:
“obama lied. hillary lied. everybody lies. at least trump is honest about his lies”

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:15:18am

Trump Administration today announces new plan to reduce LEGAL immigration by under 50%. Next time you hear a conservative say they’re only against illegal immigration but support legal immigration, let them know they’re full of sh*t. “What part of legal you don’t understand?”

rightwingwatch.org

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:18:31am

Trump lied about repaying borrowed money until the only people who would do business with him were Russian criminals and the banks they controlled.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:18:54am

Word around the Twittersphere is that Trump called Putin prior to signing the bill, but it’s all just regular schmoes. Has anyone heard this from a reputable source?

If true, holy crap.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:18:57am

Oh, and the GOP and the racist voter base.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:20:40am

re: #38 jaunte

That wasn’t me, I don’t like cookies, it’s not really a “jar” is it?

How tiny would the cookie jar opening have to be for Trump’s hand to get stuck in it? How would you even fit cookies into such a tiny opening?

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Mike Lamb  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:21:13am

re: #48 jaunte

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Trump lied about repaying borrowed money until the only people who would do business with him were Russian criminals and the banks they controlled.

So that’s one of the dumbest arguments I’ve ever heard from someone.

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EPR-radar  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:22:22am

re: #9 Stanley Sea

RWNJs always project. Like an IMAX every single time.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:24:45am

re: #48 jaunte

And even taking it as legitimate, how can one equate not giving a damn about lying with being transparent? That’s being a sociopath.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:24:46am

re: #52 Mike Lamb

It doesn’t hang together; Trump lies, bullshits, obfuscates, never admits the truth. He would never say “I’m going to lie to you now, and here it comes…”

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:25:40am

re: #48 jaunte

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:26:15am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:28:24am
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Timothy Watson  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:28:25am

re: #57 Kragar

Just figured out how to turn a 4 hours a day job into a 15 minute a day job. I’m fucking awesome.

Managed to overcome some “It’s always been done this way”ism?

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:28:36am

“Look, this noisome, ugly, putrescence is really a unique virtue! We can work with this!”

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:31:17am

re: #59 Timothy Watson

Managed to overcome some “It’s always been done this way”ism?

“OK, after the scans all run, you need to go in and manually run this set of queries for each scan.”
*reads thru manuals*
“According to this, we can set up reports to automatically run as each scan completes and email us the results.”
“Oh.”

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No Depression  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:32:19am

re: #60 jaunte

“Look, this noisome, ugly, putrescence is really a unique virtue! We can work with this!”

Isaiah 5:20:

“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.”

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danarchy  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:33:29am

re: #57 Kragar

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Congratulations! We are now making you an hourly employee and cutting your hours. Also, we will no longer be providing health insurance. Thank you for your efficiency.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:34:03am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:36:30am

re: #48 jaunte

Trump lied about repaying borrowed money until the only people who would do business with him were Russian criminals and the banks they controlled.

OK, I’ll play.

How exactly is Trump “open and honest” about his lying?

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ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:37:38am

re: #42 Hecuba’s daughter

Poll shows what people think not the truth. It never tells us whether the direction is right only whether responders think it’s right.

How can you get realistic numbers as to what the truth is? It would still be an opinion would it not?

Who could be trusted to be truthful about the truth? Everything comes down to party and political stance. It would be hard to find a group of people that everyone would trust as the arbiters of direction.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:38:27am

re: #65 Sir John Barron

OK, I’ll play.

How exactly is Trump “open and honest” about his lying?

Well, everyone knows he’s a lying fuck, so its just expected of him.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:38:46am
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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:40:56am

re: #32 jaunte

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There might be dumber Republicans, but other than Scott Walker, is there any dumber looking Republican than Cotton?

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No Depression  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:42:40am

re: #69 BeachDem

There might be dumber Republicans, but other than Scott Walker, is there any dumber looking Republican than Cotton?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:42:46am

re: #69 BeachDem

There might be dumber Republicans, but other than Scott Walker, is there any dumber looking Republican than Cotton?

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I see your Cotton, and raise you a Ryan.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:43:47am

re: #57 Kragar

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Just figured out how to turn a 4 hours a day job into a 15 minute a day job. I’m fucking awesome.

Switch to boots rather than them dang shoes with laces?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:44:19am

re: #70 No Depression

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Daaaaamn. Now this shit is getting real….

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:44:24am

re: #28 A dark and stormy covfefe

It’s so funny. When I saw:

This is the first thing I thought of (from Spirited Away):

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:44:31am

re: #71 Dr. Matt

I see your Cotton, and raise you a Ryan.

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I win.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:44:39am

re: #69 BeachDem

There might be dumber Republicans, but other than Scott Walker, is there any dumber looking Republican than Cotton?

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Cotton is the stereotypical slack-jaw yokel with a nice suit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:44:47am

re: #69 BeachDem

There might be dumber Republicans, but other than Scott Walker, is there any dumber looking Republican than Cotton?

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Fahrenthold.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:46:49am

re: #34 Timothy Watson

What caused that month long dip in 2014?

That was when the healthcare exchange first opened and didn’t work in late 2013.

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:46:53am

re: #61 Kragar

“OK, after the scans all run, you need to go in and manually run this set of queries for each scan.”
*reads thru manuals*
“According to this, we can set up reports to automatically run as each scan completes and email us the results.”
“Oh.”

You READ THE MANUALS?!?!

That’s some next-level bootstrapping, dude.

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John Carter  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:48:34am

re: #2 jaunte

I hope he impresses Kelly.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:49:03am
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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:49:16am

OK—it’s a multi-way tie for dumb-looking Republicans. Perhaps I should have said vacuous-looking.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:49:19am

re: #75 Kragar

I win.

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Not so fast

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:49:34am

re: #78 Big Beautiful Door

That was when the healthcare exchange first opened and didn’t work in late 2013.

Which was at the same time as the Ted Cruz gov’t shutdown.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:50:06am

re: #83 Dr. Matt

Not so fast

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He’s a 2.

I meant a -2.

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:51:12am

re: #59 Timothy Watson

Managed to overcome some “It’s always been done this way”ism?

which is frequently followed with “and we’ve never had a problem” (safety procedures)
or translated re tax prep - we havent been caught yet

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:51:42am

re: #82 BeachDem

OK—it’s a multi-way tie for dumb-looking Republicans. Perhaps I should have said vacuous-looking.

Did you say vacuous looking?

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:52:05am

re: #61 Kragar

“OK, after the scans all run, you need to go in and manually run this set of queries for each scan.”
*reads thru manuals*
“According to this, we can set up reports to automatically run as each scan completes and email us the results.”
“Oh.”

dont get me started…

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:52:29am

“Clovis did not respond to an email from CNN’s KFile requesting comment. A spokesperson for the USDA said, “Dr. Clovis is a proud conservative and a proud American. All of his reporting either on the air or in writing over the course of his career has been based on solid research and data. He is after all an academic.”
cnn.com

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ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:52:42am

re: #64 Kragar

The @NAACP claims that for the first time ever, it is warning people of color to avoid a state. (It’s Missouri.) pocket.co

Well this sucks. We are right back to the times where Blacks had to be aware of where to go and not go, where to eat, etc.

Of course, there has always been places everyone had to avoid and work around…but to see a group like the NAACP actually have to put out an advisory is really sad.

In a way though, as a White person, there are states I would avoid, but that is based on politics not the threat of violence, mistreatment and pure concern for you and yours.

Remember Obama talking about rolling a big rock up a hill, and he hoped to get it up a little further during his time?

To keep a rock on a hill there has to be something placed under the rock to keep it from rolling back. Or at least get the rock to a little plateau for it to rest.

Along comes Trump and he just took the holder out or moved the rock back so it is now free rolling back down the hill. And as we all know, it is way easy for something heavy to go back down fast….much faster than the time it took to get it up the hill.

How far back down the hill is it going to go? Where is this going to end and how many are going to get crushed under its decent?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:54:14am

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:54:22am

re: #69 BeachDem

There might be dumber Republicans, but other than Scott Walker, is there any dumber looking Republican than Cotton?

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GOHMERT!!!!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:56:01am

Stephen Miller on the TV xenophobing away.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 11:56:39am

re: #89 jaunte

This guy seems about as hateful and dopey a nominee to anything as can be imagined.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:00:05pm

re: #79 sagehen

You READ THE MANUALS?!?!

That’s some next-level bootstrapping, dude.

Specifically, I read thru the materials that management said “We don’t need that stuff according to our contract.”

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ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:00:44pm

re: #93 Stanley Sea

Stephen Miller on the TV xenophobing away.

Watching. Don’t know if I really want to though. I do not like this guy…at all. He has dead eyes and no real face expression. He may just be a nasty white supremacist replicant.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:01:46pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:02:18pm

Anthony Scaramucci Still Hasn’t Met His Kid

This pretty much proves he’s a fucking scumbag by all definitions.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:02:21pm

Nope, I win.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:02:59pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:04:28pm

Glenn’s making him melt down!

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:04:35pm

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

He’s a 2.

I meant a -2.

Looks like a deuce in his shorts.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:05:36pm

re: #98 Dr. Matt

Anthony Scaramucci Still Hasn’t Met His Kid

This pretty much proves he’s a fucking scumbag by all definitions.

Hey, he did pray for it.
/

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:07:07pm

re: #96 ObserverArt

Watching. Don’t know if I really want to though. I do not like this guy…at all. He has dead eyes and no real face expression. He may just be a nasty white supremacist replicant.

Now that the Reince Priebus faction is on the outs with the Trump White House the white nationalist faction (Bannon, Miller, Gorka et al) is starting to assert itself again and is influencing Trump’s decisions.

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ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:10:11pm

re: #98 Dr. Matt

Anthony Scaramucci Still Hasn’t Met His Kid

This pretty much proves he’s a fucking scumbag by all definitions.

Heard earlier on MSNBC that Mooch is going dark and will rise again.

Oh boy!!!

I think I can wait.

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nines09  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:10:40pm

re: #70 No Depression

Looks like a 2:30AM commercial for septic systems.
“Yeah, so bear with me…We get a beautiful girl, and I know one we can get cheap, from down at “Your Man Ain’t Here, Bitch” strip club, and have her pose with our new “Rubber Ducky” septic system! It’ll be great!”

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Mike Lamb  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:12:53pm

re: #70 No Depression

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It still amazes me that that fuckwit allowed that photo to be taken. And forget his creepy fucking face. He’s a Congress person and you can’t tell me that there weren’t a lot of working girls there.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:13:42pm

“CIS is part of the John Tanton Network, the anti-immigrant “empire of organizations” created by, or connected to, population-control advocate and nativist John Tanton.”

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Mike Lamb  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:13:58pm

re: #97 jaunte

Miller just forgot to include “public support from Stormfront members and alt-right goons.”

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KGxvi  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:14:48pm

Listen to about 45 seconds of the briefing on this immigration plan. Can’t wait to hear the justification from the “he’s only talking about illegal immigration” crowd

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Skip Intro  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:15:27pm

re: #82 BeachDem

OK—it’s a multi-way tie for dumb-looking Republicans. Perhaps I should have said vacuous-looking.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:16:27pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:16:58pm
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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:19:07pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:20:47pm

“That verse on the Statue of Liberty was added later”

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:21:07pm

re: #87 jaunte

Did you say vacuous looking?

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OK—I quit—but I think an underlying truth has been revealed!
/

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Dr. Matt  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:21:51pm

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:22:37pm

Stephen Miller is the poster child for low-skill carveouts.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:23:32pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:23:50pm

He’s fucking breaking down. This is amazing.

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:25:02pm

re: #120 Stanley Sea

Is he still going on? I thought this was just a short announcement.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:25:11pm

re: #118 jaunte

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Stephen Miller is the poster child for low-skill carveouts.

Condescending prick.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:26:32pm

re: #97 jaunte

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:26:55pm

“Rootless cosmopolitan,” he means.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:26:59pm

re: #121 freetoken

Is he still going on? I thought this was just a short announcement.

Just ended. Sarah’s on.

Can’t wait for Jim Acosta’s report.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:27:18pm

ANOTHER DEAR LEADER LETTER

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:27:49pm
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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:29:17pm

Let Trump know that everyone is talking about Stephen Miller now.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:30:04pm

re: #128 jaunte

Let Trump know that everyone is talking about Stephen Miller now.

He was probably watching, and will watch the follow-up stories.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:30:26pm
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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:31:14pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:31:18pm

re: #130 jaunte

Stephen Miller: “We’d like to create a permanent change to our immigration system that will endure through time” “

We want to build a wall without a door…

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:32:43pm

re: #90 ObserverArt

Well this sucks. We are right back to the times where Blacks had to be aware of where to go and not go, where to eat, etc.

Of course, there has always been places everyone had to avoid and work around…but to see a group like the NAACP actually have to put out an advisory is really sad.

In a way though, as a White person, there are states I would avoid, but that is based on politics not the threat of violence, mistreatment and pure concern for you and yours.

Remember Obama talking about rolling a big rock up a hill, and he hoped to get it up a little further during his time?

To keep a rock on a hill there has to be something placed under the rock to keep it from rolling back. Or at least get the rock to a little plateau for it to rest.

Along comes Trump and he just took the holder out or moved the rock back so it is now free rolling back down the hill. And as we all know, it is way easy for something heavy to go back down fast….much faster than the time it took to get it up the hill.

How far back down the hill is it going to go? Where is this going to end and how many are going to get crushed under its decent?

“The rock is gonna fall on us! Run or you’ll all be crushed!”
And indeed the rock was moving, crumbling all to dust
He ran under it with one last hope that he could add a prop
And as he disappeared the rock came to a stop

The people ran into the street but by then all was still
The rock seemed where it always was or where it always will be
When someone asked where he had gone they said: “Oh he was daft.
Who cares about that crazy fool.” And then they’d start to laugh

But high up on the mountain
When the wind is hitting it
If you’re watching very closely
The rock slips a little bit”

Harry Chapin - The Rock

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:33:08pm
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Belafon  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:33:20pm

re: #124 jaunte

“Rootless cosmopolitan,” he means.

Cosmopolitan as an insult. Hmmm….

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darthstar  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:33:59pm
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sagehen  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:34:19pm

re: #111 Skip Intro

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He could have been good-looking if only his eyes weren’t a window to his ugly soul.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:36:51pm

re: #137 sagehen

He could have been good-looking if only his eyes weren’t a window to his ugly soul.

That hairline, tho…

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:37:31pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:37:45pm

re: #48 jaunte

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Citizen K  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:40:25pm

Sweet holy hell, I want to say they tore off the mask and are truly exposing themselves for what they always were, but that mask is a giant fucking white hood, so…

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:41:23pm

Acosta last hit “Did the president call the white house a dump?”

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:42:22pm

White nationalists owning their own:

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:42:54pm
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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:45:50pm

And the hits just keep on coming:

President Donald Trump’s choice to lead a key bank regulation agency spent the first half of this decade running a bank that illegally foreclosed on hundreds of thousands of Americans, often using forged and fraudulent documents.

huffingtonpost.com

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:45:53pm
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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:46:24pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:47:28pm

Talking about stupid-looking Republicans is a good example of a selection bias.

We know they are stupid because they are Republicans, so the appearance business is tacked on afterward.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:47:30pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:47:56pm
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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:48:43pm
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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:50:36pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:50:38pm

re: #147 jaunte

Jesus, accusing tr*mp of telling the truth would be the ‘bold accusation’. tr*mp’s natural state is that of the bullshitter, completely indifferent to whether what he says is true or false.

What he says is exclusively based on what he thinks will best serve his interests.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:51:06pm

re: #143 freetoken

White nationalists owning their own:

When idiots out themselves.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:51:14pm
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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:51:39pm
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Timothy Watson  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:51:56pm

re: #119 jaunte

Miller just declared that the Statue Of Liberty’s welcome to immigrants “doesn’t matter” because it was “added later.”

“Besides, it was those dirty Frenchies who made the Statue of Liberty.”

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:53:20pm

re: #157 Timothy Watson

I wonder if Miller knows the statue was originally intended for the Suez canal.

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John Carter  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:53:53pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

Now that is hilarious. Co-workers looked at me when I guffawed.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:55:10pm

Jim. Jim. Jim. Jim. Jim…

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:55:20pm
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Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:55:38pm

re: #160 jaunte

Jim. Jim. Jim. Jim. Jim…

He’s dead, Jim.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:56:37pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:56:50pm

re: #147 jaunte

Q: Did Trump lie about his calls w/ Mexican prez, Boy Scouts?

SHS: “I wouldn’t say it was a lie. That’s pretty a pretty bold accusation.”

Sweet, fancy Moses.

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:59:00pm

re: #143 freetoken

White nationalists owning their own:

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I’m sorry I read that article, and the comments. Now I need a shower.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 12:59:03pm

re: #164 Sir John Barron

Step 2: Fall back to the “not a phone call, but definitely a conversation” defensive position until forced out by future factual revelations from witnesses.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:00:19pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:00:26pm

re: #163 Kragar

History, how does it work?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:00:30pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:01:20pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

White Nationalists should be happy with this, too. Gosh, what a day for them.
//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:01:53pm
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Ace-o-aces  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:02:32pm

Don’t you love it when your arguing with some one on twitter, and their profile says they believe in “Women’s Rights” and “Science”, but when you look at their timeline is more or less indistinguishable form Dinesh D’Souza. We need a name for these people. I dub them Fauxgressives.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:02:48pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Cosmopolitan bias?”, what exactly is this f0ckery?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:03:09pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:03:33pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Booed off the stage for making a different version of the same speech, and apparently he relished the hatred, fed off it.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:03:59pm

re: #173 Sir John Barron

“Cosmopolitan bias?”, what exactly is this f0ckery?

Miller’s boss is a NYC resident and celebrity.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:04:04pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:05:50pm

I would estimate that about half of the people in the building where I work are H1B’s, or started out as H1B’s. And they are all highly skilled, highly educated professionals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:05:58pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:06:12pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Trump admin nazi” can be shortened to Trumpzi.

Similarly, gopzi is a reasonable term for a Republican, since Republicans are either blatant nazi wannabes or have no problem at all with the nazi wannabes on their team.

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danarchy  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:07:02pm

re: #177 makeitstop

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Sorry not seeing it. Aside from having a long narrow face they really don’t look anything alike…Goebbels has more expressive eyes too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:07:07pm
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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:07:22pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:08:32pm

re: #181 danarchy

Sorry not seeing it. Aside from having a long narrow face they really don’t look anything alike…Goebbels has more expressive eyes too.

Goebbels looks considerably more intelligent than Miller.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:09:41pm

Miller is straight-up using Nazi rhetoric in the White House.

“….In its treatment of Goethe for instance, the Volkische Beobachter sought to downplay any association between the German poet and his reputation as a “citizen of the world,” which was denounced by the paper as a “liberal-leftist ploy,” and instead characterized Goethe as deeply connected to his homeland and which spared no opportunity to denounce the “cosmopolitan” and “bourgeois” nature of Goethe’s contemporaries (68). In reference to the wars of liberation taking place against Napoleon’s armies, Goethe was characterized by one editor as “deeply regretted [for] not belonging to a great, strong, respected, and feared Volk for which national honour is not a dream…embattled by internationalist utopians without character” (69) while the author Hans Johst described Goethe’s Germanness as characterized through his “impulsive idea of expansion and sense of mission” as opposed to the “global drivel” of the “internationalist utopian view of humanity” (70).”
cosmopolitanreview.com

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:09:48pm

re: #184 EPR-radar

Goebbels looks considerably more intelligent than Miller.

Which is good. Goebbels was more intelligent than Miller.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:09:56pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:10:22pm

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

this cave goblin and his Scooby-Doo villain boss

Man, that’s some good sh*t.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:10:32pm

re: #181 danarchy

Sorry not seeing it. Aside from having a long narrow face they really don’t look anything alike…Goebbels has more expressive eyes too.

Herr Miller looks like a picture of Goebbels that was traced over by Cecilia Giménez.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:10:48pm

Later Lizards. See. you in the A.M.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:11:55pm

welp…

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:12:03pm

re: #147 jaunte

[Embedded content]Q: Did Trump lie about his calls w/ Mexican prez, Boy Scouts?

SHS: “I wouldn’t say it was a lie. That’s pretty a pretty bold accusation.”

THAT’S not an answer
did they occur or NOT?

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:12:26pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Full impotence”.

Trump’s going to love that one.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:12:44pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp…

Come back! I didn’t mean it! Didn’t you read my signing statements?!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:13:13pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

Russian PM Medvedev: New sanctions from US end hopes for better ties with Trump admin.

— NBC Nightly News

Maybe Russia should have thought of that before hacking our elections.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:14:20pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:14:30pm

re: #139 Kragar

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The thousand year Reich. Can’t you just picture Miller in his SS uniform?

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:15:32pm

re: #193 freetoken

“Full impotence”.

Trump’s going to love that one.

weak

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:15:35pm

So, a British punk rock front man was stopped at the border and deported because he mocked Dear Leader last year.

Peter & The Test Tube Babies singer Peter Bywaters was refused entry to the US late last week for dressing up as president Donald Trump during a tour of Germany in 2016.

He had planned to hook up with his bandmates at the Punk Invasion Festival in Santa Ana, Orange County, California on Saturday. But after landing in San Francisco, Bywaters was taken aside and interrogated for six hours by customs and border protection officers.

They confronted him with photos and videos of himself dressed as Trump from the band’s German Jinx ‘Presidential’ Tour last year - where the singer also spoke out against the president.

Following the ordeal, Bywaters had his phone and passport confiscated, was finger printed, DNA swabbed, photographed and forced to make a sworn statement before being escorted to his seat on the plane.

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Franklin  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:15:42pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:16:08pm

re: #195 Sir John Barron

Maybe Russia should have thought of that before hacking our elections.

Putin et al. already got a big win out of the election results of 2016. Anything on top of that is a pure bonus. My hope is that tr*mp manages to irritate Putin enough to cause Putin to publish the Kompromat, even though it’s almost certainly better for Putin’s goals to have tr*mp in office as long as possible.

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:16:37pm

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So we’re supposed to believe this cave goblin and his Scooby-Doo villain boss are totally in touch with middle America? That’s rich.

Hey, just the other day, the yam showed his understanding and compassion for the plight of people who should just move somewhere else to find a job—

You know, a lot of them don’t leave because of their house. Because they say, gee, my house, I thought it was worth 70,000 (dollars) and now it’s worth nothing. It’s OK. Go, cut your losses, right?

I mean, it doesn’t get any more compassionate than that…
/

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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:16:43pm

re: #200 Franklin

JUST IN: Russian PM Medvedev: Pres. Trump’s admin. “has demonstrated full impotence” in signing new Russia sanctions.

— NBC Nightly News

Actually, to have continued denying Russia’s involvement or lifting the sanctions would have “demonstrated full impotence”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:17:51pm

re: #193 freetoken

“Full impotence”.

Trump’s going to love that one.

I know that *I* did!

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:18:29pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

Russian PM Medvedev: New sanctions from US end hopes for better ties with Trump admin.

They’re so comfortable making threats.

Yo, Russia - fuck your feelings.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:18:43pm

re: #173 Sir John Barron

“Cosmopolitan bias?”, what exactly is this f0ckery?

It means “Jew.”

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:19:21pm

re: #202 BeachDem

Hey, just the other day, the yam showed his understanding and compassion for the plight of people who should just move somewhere else to find a job—

I mean, it doesn’t get any more compassionate than that…
/

the second implication in that quote is “cut your losses, screw the bank”

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:19:54pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:20:11pm

re: #207 dangerman

the second implication in that quote is “cut your losses, screw the bank”

Well, that’s the Trump way.

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harlequinade  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:20:21pm

re: #206 Big Beautiful Door

I just said that.
That doesn’t fill me with joy.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:22:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:25:55pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:26:08pm

re: #211 Kragar

A great day at the White House!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:26:34pm

Yay! Our water test Monday came back negative! One down, one to go.

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:26:47pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:27:48pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp…

Darn.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:28:32pm

Unbelievable gall.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:28:47pm

jeebus, this is just pathetic:

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:30:29pm
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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:30:41pm

re: #195 Sir John Barron

Maybe Russia should have thought of that before hacking our elections.

It’s still better for putin than if Hillary was elected. We have no idea what putin is getting. We know what we are being told by professional liars…whether trump signed the bill or not.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:33:22pm

HBO Hack Reportedly Seven Times Larger than Sony Hack
huffingtonpost.com

HBO has called in the FBI and the security firm that worked on the Sony hack. The company is still trying to figure out what was stolen.

HBO has already asked Google to scrub links associated with the hacks, and notes that thousands of internal documents were apparently taken, along with images, audio, and video.

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wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:35:19pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, this is just pathetic:

[Embedded content]

We can beat them with our Renaissance Fairs!

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:38:05pm

re: #222 wrenchwench

We can beat them with our Renaissance Fairs!

I bet those palookas don’t even have turkey legs, borscht on a stick….

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:40:44pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rock and roll, invented in Nizhniy Novgorod!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:41:16pm

re: #219 jaunte

I just can’t with GG anymore.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:41:54pm

re: #219 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Uh, Glenn:

The Congress shall have power:
[…]
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

(United States Constitution, Article I, § 8, cl. 3)

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:41:58pm

re: #219 jaunte

[Embedded content]

he objected to congress passing a bill.
maybe cause it’s so rare we see them actually doing one of their jobs

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:42:49pm

re: #226 Timothy Watson

Got to cut Glenn some slack; he’s a Brazilian.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:43:40pm

re: #228 jaunte

Got to cut Glenn some slack; he’s a Brazilian.

Well, he often sounds like his head is full of wax.

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No Depression  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:45:57pm

re: #163 Kragar

[Embedded content]

In this exchange with @Acosta, Stephen Miller just said that the poem on the Statue of Liberty doesn’t matter since it was “added later”

I sometimes wonder if I would still be a conservative today if the circumstances of my life were different, but this bullshit right here has made me realize that my break with the right was pretty much inevitable. As a conservative, I hated illegal immigration because I thought it was unfair to the people coming into this country legally, but I didn’t have a problem with immigration overall. I was and still am a firm believer that the diversity of people coming into this country from all around the world is one of the things that makes this country great. I rejected this kind of anti-immigrant sentiment then and do now. It disgusts me to have a President promoting this Nazi garbage.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:48:57pm

Take note of who supports it.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:49:43pm
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No Depression  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:50:28pm

re: #199 makeitstop

So, a British punk rock front man was stopped at the border and deported because he mocked Dear Leader last year.

CBP Nazis FUCK OFF.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:50:38pm

re: #231 jaunte

Take note of who supports it.

You’ll be able to tell who’s in the white-supremacist wing, and who’s in the business wing of the party. And I hope companies are paying attention.

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:50:52pm

re: #230 No Depression

It was around 2004/2005 that I realized I couldn’t vote for a Republican again, though I went ahead and voted for Arnie, but I’m pretty sure he was the last Republican for whom I voted.

When 2008 came around and the bigots came pouring out after Obama, it was clear to me that the GOP was heading into irredeemable territory.

I’ve always been sort of conservative, in the original meaning, because I tend to err on the side of caution.

But in America today, “conservative” is just a euphemism for bigot.

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:53:01pm

re: #230 No Depression

I sometimes wonder if I would still be a conservative today if the circumstances of my life were different…

i often wonder how i would be different if i was raised in a different part of the country, or recent time

i fear for what i would have otherwise become. believed, taken for granted, taken as true due to the “normal” around me

im sure i have as many latent, silent biases as others.
i like to think im smart and rational enough not to have (m)any overt ones

“you’ve got to be carefully taught”

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unproven innocence  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:53:29pm

re: #232 jaunte

So many of us have been trained by scifi movies. Even alien time travelers from distant galaxies speak English, so it *must* be the universal language. /

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:53:50pm

re: #235 freetoken

When 2008 came around and the bigots came pouring out after Obama, it was clear to me that the GOP was heading into irredeemable territory.

I had the same experience. They just could not handle the Obama presidency.

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:54:34pm

re: #234 Belafon

You’ll be able to tell who’s in the white-supremacist wing, and who’s in the business wing of the party. And I hope companies are paying attention.

they will. this will hurt

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:55:59pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, this is just pathetic:

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Oh that’s nothing. They have Civil War reenactments where EVERYBODY IS A CONFEDERATE!!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:56:38pm

re: #235 freetoken

It was around 2004/2005 that I realized I couldn’t vote for a Republican again, though I went ahead and voted for Arnie, but I’m pretty sure he was the last Republican for whom I voted.

When 2008 came around and the bigots came pouring out after Obama, it was clear to me that the GOP was heading into irredeemable territory.

I’ve always been sort of conservative, in the original meaning, because I tend to err on the side of caution.

But in America today, “conservative” is just a euphemism for bigot.

I remember getting to LGF when it was still a RW(kinda)NJ blog & being amazed at your Obama avatar.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:57:26pm

re: #238 jaunte

I had the same experience. They just could not handle the Obama presidency.

A black man with a vaguely Arabic sounding name got elected to the ultimate position of authority in the USA - and a not insignificant number of Americans went straight out of their goddamn minds.

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:57:44pm

re: #241 Stanley Sea

I remember getting to LGF when it was still a RW(kinda)NJ blog & being amazed at your Obama avatar.

Didn’t realize anyone remembered.

At that time there were some people here who really took offense at it.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:58:41pm

re: #243 freetoken

Didn’t realize anyone remembered.

At that time there were some people here who really took offense at it.

I know. I loved it.

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:58:52pm

re: #233 No Depression

CBP Nazis FUCK OFF.

When you say that, there’s supposed to be musical accompaniment.

Dead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck Off (Live)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2017 • 1:59:34pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, this is just pathetic:

These sorts of medieval festivals are common all over Europe, but I have never seen them tied in with nationalist sentiments.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:00:06pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:00:16pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:00:39pm

re: #224 jaunte

Rock and roll, invented in Nizhniy Novgorod!

By the People who gave us the Fender Vladocaster!!!

And “Who Put the Yep in the Dnyepropyetrovskaya?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:02:05pm

re: #199 makeitstop

So, a British punk rock front man was stopped at the border and deported because he mocked Dear Leader last year.

Peter & The Test Tube Babies singer Peter Bywaters was refused entry to the US late last week for dressing up as president Donald Trump during a tour of Germany in 2016.

OMG. We were their opening act on their 1995 European tour…

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:05:03pm

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Peter & The Test Tube Babies singer Peter Bywaters was refused entry to the US late last week for dressing up as president Donald Trump during a tour of Germany in 2016.

OMG. We were their opening act on their 1995 European tour…

Wow, small world!

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:05:54pm

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Peter & The Test Tube Babies singer Peter Bywaters was refused entry to the US late last week for dressing up as president Donald Trump during a tour of Germany in 2016.

OMG. We were their opening act on their 1995 European tour…

We had a big argument here last year of an immigrants free speech rights, but this is why I think the burden should be on the government even in the case of non-citizens.

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:06:20pm

re: #235 freetoken

It was around 2004/2005 that I realized I couldn’t vote for a Republican again, though I went ahead and voted for Arnie, but I’m pretty sure he was the last Republican for whom I voted.

When 2008 came around and the bigots came pouring out after Obama, it was clear to me that the GOP was heading into irredeemable territory.

I’ve always been sort of conservative, in the original meaning, because I tend to err on the side of caution.

But in America today, “conservative” is just a euphemism for bigot.

those two dimensional tests political compass tests always bothered me. its not two dimensions. it’s at least three.

i think independently about each issue, and cant be pigeonholed that way. sure you’d have an overall trend, but that’s not enough because the shorthand (left/right/, red/blue, liberal/conservative etc) devalues your actual individual opinions about other things.

i have always used the word “moderate” carefully. it does not mean fence sitting or wishy washy. It means not being pigeonholed ideologically. And it means not holding extreme or fanatic positions, generally black and white ones. It does not mean not holding strong or convicted opinions. It also generally means each issue on its merits and sometimes breaking an issue down into discrete sub issues (handguns vs assault-ish) weapons, zygote vs day-before-delivery.

i can easily hold very different conventional positions on things like guns, abortion, social welfare, social justice, immigration, what have you. i may have tendencies. that doesnt make me only one thing or one kind of thinker.

Moderate mostly means non-ideologue. and it has nothing to do with how you register or who you vote for. that mostly *is* two dimensional

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:06:25pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:06:42pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:07:43pm

re: #248 wrenchwench

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:08:10pm

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

A black man with a vaguely Arabic sounding name got elected to the ultimate position of authority in the USA - and a not insignificant number of Americans went straight out of their goddamn minds.

To this day, I remember verbatim the lede in NYT’s election coverage:

Here is how it looks from far away: tens of millions of white Christians, voting freely, chose as their leader a black man of modest origin, the son of a Muslim. There is a place in the world, call it America, where such a thing can happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:08:22pm

re: #252 Belafon

We had a big argument here last year of an immigrants free speech rights, but this is why I think the burden should be on the government even in the case of non-citizens.

If the fellow were here advocating violence or anti-democratic behavior, they might have a point. Peter is just a cheery bloke have a bit of fun taking the piss out of a politician.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:09:18pm

re: #255 Stanley Sea

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Damn. Trump/Bannon/Kush Power Drain in full effect.

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:09:32pm

re: #248 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]The Second Amendment was added later

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451_Montag  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:10:02pm

Miller really does have the charisma of a paper bag full of cold vomit.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:10:10pm

Watching these assholes brag about the Dow Jones just nauseates. Who deserves credit or blame? Trump is a bump on the chart.

Factory Jobs!!!
Manufacturing Loses Most Jobs Since Election As ADP Employment Growth Weakens

I should note I added the admin graphics.

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No Depression  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:10:23pm

Bruce Dickinson was added later.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:11:32pm

Interesting. Looks like Bannon’s influence is on the wane.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:11:38pm

re: #255 Stanley Sea

Trump loyalists are getting culled for their incompetence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:11:42pm

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

A black man with a vaguely Arabic sounding name got elected to the ultimate position of authority in the USA - and a not insignificant number of Americans went straight out of their goddamn minds.

And instead of celebrating the fact that a person can rise to the highest office of the land through hard work and perseverance regardless of race or social background was not possible, because it might have meant acknowledging his accomplishment, even begrudgingly.

Instead they promoted and spread any and every sort of spurious claim that he was somehow not legally entitled to be our President.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:12:10pm

Ringo Starr was added later.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:13:03pm

re: #267 makeitstop

Ringo Starr was added later.

Melania was added later.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:13:17pm

Melania was added later.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:14:26pm

re: #269 Belafon

Melania was added later.

great minds, etc. seconds apart…

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:14:35pm

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

Is not Kelly waging a war in the WH, against those he considers weighing down the administration?

I do not give Kelly credit for a high egalitarian ideal, but simply that he can identify dysfunction when he sees it.

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wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:16:06pm

California was added later.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:17:28pm

re: #271 freetoken

Is not Kelly waging a war in the WH, against those he considers weighing down the administration?

I do not give Kelly credit for a high egalitarian ideal, but simply that he can identify dysfunction when he sees it.

I wonder how long before Kelly’s gaze turns to Bannon as a major source of dysfunction.

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wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:17:47pm

re: #256 goddamnedfrank

[The New Testament was added later.]

Winner.

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451_Montag  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:17:52pm

The new Testament….. Was added later

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No Depression  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:18:01pm

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

Interesting. Looks like Bannon’s influence is on the wane.

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Interesting that that’s happening on the same day as Miller’s press conference. There’s a war being waged in the White House and Trump has no idea it’s happening.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:18:57pm

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the fellow were here advocating violence or anti-democratic behavior, they might have a point. Peter is just a cheery bloke have a bit of fun taking the piss out of a politician.

This slope is slippery.

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451_Montag  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:19:01pm

re: #275 451_Montag

The new Testament….. Was added later

Shit. You really have to read fast here…. Kudos GDF, I salute you

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:19:05pm

Nice, hopeful thread from Garland.

I know, I know - we’re not out of the woods yet. And maybe the best we end up with is a semi-functioning government with Fatboy still yammering like a mental patient in the White House. But it is starting to look like the pendulum is starting to swing back.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:21:30pm

“under God” was added later to the Pledge of Allegiance

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:23:07pm

re: #280 Hecuba’s daughter

“under God” was added later to the Pledge of Allegiance

‘In God We Trust’ was added to money later.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:23:18pm

re: #279 makeitstop

Nice, hopeful thread from Garland.

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I know, I know - we’re not out of the woods yet. And maybe the best we end up with is a semi-functioning government with Fatboy still yammering like a mental patient in the White House. But it is starting to look like the pendulum is starting to swing back.

Until the yam fires Kelly.

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:23:25pm

re: #279 makeitstop

This operation reflected tiny political extremes …using the Internet to make them seem life-size.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:23:57pm

re: #280 Hecuba’s daughter

“under God” was added later to the Pledge of Allegiance

As was “In God We Trust” added to our money later.

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:24:17pm

re: #279 makeitstop

Unfortunately, the great divisions in our society don’t go away so quickly.

As we continue to lose jobs to automation, there will be a very weak demand for unskilled or even some formerly-thought-skilled labor.

The making of “cosmopolitan” as a bad word tells us what is going on - Trumpism is rooted in the rural land, where many people are not seeing new jobs being created but still a slow leak of jobs.

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wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:24:51pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

As was “In God We Trust” added to our money later.

Your comment was added earlier.

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wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:25:50pm

re: #286 wrenchwench

Your comment was added earlier.

I’ll go fix a bike now.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:28:43pm

re: #271 freetoken

Is not Kelly waging a war in the WH, against those he considers weighing down the administration?

I do not give Kelly credit for a high egalitarian ideal, but simply that he can identify dysfunction when he sees it.

This is, without a doubt, a Kelly/McMaster move.

If they’ve got Bannon in their sights, this could get really good.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:29:04pm
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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:29:52pm

“…A federal judge already ordered Kobach to turn over a memo he took into the meeting with Trump in November at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:30:10pm

re: #285 freetoken

Unfortunately, the great divisions in our society don’t go away so quickly.

As we continue to lose jobs to automation, there will be a very weak demand for unskilled or even some formerly-thought-skilled labor.

The making of “cosmopolitan” as a bad word tells us what is going on - Trumpism is rooted in the rural land, where many people are not seeing new jobs being created but still a slow leak of jobs.

It’s not just rural land where jobs are being lost. Automation and outsourcing are damaging job prospects for those with skills at every level. There are some jobs that are unaffected: anything that requires a person to actually be physically at a local site — plumber, electrician, beautician, most medical personnel (except radiologists), caregivers, etc.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:30:36pm

re: #288 Myron Falwell

This is, without a doubt, a Kelly/McMaster move.

If they’ve got Bannon in their sights, this could get really good.

Pass the popcorn, as they say.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:30:38pm
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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:31:51pm

re: #287 wrenchwench

I’ll go fix a bike now.

motors were added later

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:33:05pm

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

So basically Trump in one version of his exceptions while signing the bill, just happens to be the same as Medvedev’s, correct?

Just a coincidence.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:33:26pm

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

Frankly My Dear 🐁 @goddamnedfrank
This is a FANTASTIC way of dispelling the notion that you’re all butthurt over not getting what you paid for.


4:29 PM - Aug 2, 2017

They did get what they paid for: a discredited/dysfunctional US government, a hollowed out State Department, and no one in charge to face a real crisis. Kelly can remove the worst but he cannot place the best in charge of any agencies

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:35:10pm

re: #296 Hecuba’s daughter

As I noted earlier, I’m not going to give Kelly the benefit of a doubt, about his motives being something noble.

Rather, when someone who is used to being in charge walks into a chaotic mess, the first thing they will do, because they have to, is order the mess.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:35:43pm

re: #296 Hecuba’s daughter

They did get what they paid for: a discredited/dysfunctional US government, a hollowed out State Department, and no one in charge to face a real crisis. Kelly can remove the worst but he cannot place the best in charge of any agencies

But the real prize was getting those sanctions lifted. That was the topic of conversation all through the campaign, under the rubric of ‘adoption.’

They may have tossed us into a pit of chaos for the time being, but Putin didn’t get the one thing he wanted.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:36:13pm

re: #255 Stanley Sea

Scoop: McMaster fires Ezra Cohen-Watnick from the National Security Council

Sounds cosmopolitan.

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EPR-radar  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:36:20pm

re: #297 freetoken

As I noted earlier, I’m not going to give Kelly the benefit of a a doubt, about his motives being something noble.

Rather, when someone who is used to being in charge walks into a chaotic mess, the first thing they will do, because they have to, is order the mess.

Since tr*mp is the main source of the mess in the White House, conflict between tr*mp and Kelly is inevitable.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:36:38pm

re: #261 451_Montag

Miller really does have the charisma of a paper bag full of cold vomit.

That’s an insult to a paper bag full of cold vomit.

rawstory.com

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:37:37pm

re: #300 EPR-radar

Since tr*mp is the main source of the mess in the White House, conflict between tr*mp and Kelly is inevitable.

It’s only a matter of how soon.

I expect by the budget crisis this fall.

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451_Montag  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:39:55pm

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

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Would that be buyers remorse?

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:40:04pm

Let’s hope that Kelly can expel Miller and Bannon before Trump and his white supremacist following takes Kelly down.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:40:09pm

re: #297 freetoken

As I noted earlier, I’m not going to give Kelly the benefit of a doubt, about his motives being something noble.

Rather, when someone who is used to being in charge walks into a chaotic mess, the first thing they will do, because they have to, is order the mess.

Fair enough; Kelly probably set an operational plan for himself - get rid of the mess in 90 days or something like that. The next few weeks could prove interesting.

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HypnoToad  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:40:37pm

re: #302 freetoken

It’s only a matter of how soon.

I expect by the budget crisis this fall.

I expect by a week from Thursday…

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:44:26pm

Pretty much…

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:45:32pm

re: #289 jaunte

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Physically resembles Dennis Quaid, mental makeup leans more on the Randy side.

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dangerman  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:46:19pm

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

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semantics and all, you can’t “hand over executive power to Congress”

it doesnt work that way

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:48:18pm

re: #279 makeitstop

Nice, hopeful thread from Garland.

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I know, I know - we’re not out of the woods yet. And maybe the best we end up with is a semi-functioning government with Fatboy still yammering like a mental patient in the White House. But it is starting to look like the pendulum is starting to swing back.

There’s a light at each end of this tunnel,
You shout ‘cause you’re just as far in as you’ll ever be out
And these mistakes you’ve made, you’ll just make them again
If you’d only try turning around.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:49:30pm
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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:50:49pm

re: #311 MsJ

Jennifer Jacobs is from Bloomberg news.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:52:13pm

re: #311 MsJ

Mooch’s communications strategy memo is in my hands

This is a strange thing to announce.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:52:55pm

re: #311 MsJ

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It’s just gonna be more Festivus in Summer listing of grievances…

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nines09  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:53:51pm

OT…man does not live by bread alone…

Beth and Joe and a kick ass gathering of…..souls….

Beth and Joe. What more can you say?

Got some time? Play it, turn it up and just drink it in…..

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:54:52pm
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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:55:49pm

re: #311 MsJ

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Does anyone really give a shit what Scaramucci has to say at this point? Other than for the comic relief.

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No Depression  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:56:38pm
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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:56:48pm

re: #311 MsJ

It’s true that Anthony Scaramucci intends to announce something shortly, I’m told.

Filing a lawsuit over the loss of his gig?

Or maybe he’s really mad and flips over the whole apple cart?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:57:34pm

re: #318 No Depression

That’s gotta be photoshopped. Where’s his fucking neck?

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:57:57pm

Mooch’s communications strategy memo is in my hands.
I am sitting in the smallest room in the house.
Soon it will be behind me.

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wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:58:25pm

re: #294 dangerman

motors were added later

Don’t get me started.

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Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:58:59pm

re: #311 MsJ

It’s true that Anthony Scaramucci intends to announce something shortly, I’m told.

That he’s a vulgar moron with less tact than Trump himself? We already know that.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:59:04pm

(Johann Baptist Joseph Maximilian Reger)

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ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 2:59:52pm

re: #309 dangerman

semantics and all, you can’t “hand over executive power to Congress”

it doesnt work that way

But you can take it from them* in Russia.

*Their legislative bodies, the Federal Assembly

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:00:23pm

Scaramucci is returning to aid President Donald Trump by setting up an external communications shop with the sole purpose of helping the White House…Such an effort by Scaramucci would potentially violate the Anti-Deficiency Act.

rawstory.com

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:00:43pm

re: #316 MsJ

Poor thing feels harassed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:01:54pm

re: #318 No Depression

As my letter in the Omaha paper a couple weeks ago noted on a person there who wrote the same thing: Respect is earned, not given.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:03:43pm

re: #318 No Depression

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No way I’m standing behind that.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:05:05pm

re: #208 jaunte

]

Worth noting: Norman Lloyd, who played the eponymous saboteur Frank Fry, is still with us at age 102.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:05:06pm

re: #317 BeachDem

Does anyone really give a shit what Scaramucci has to say at this point? Other than for the comic relief.

You have took admit that the LULZ would be spectacular. I’d watch!

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:06:11pm

re: #326 BeachDem

Scaramucci is returning to aid President Donald Trump by setting up an external communications shop with the sole purpose of helping the White House…Such an effort by Scaramucci would potentially violate the Anti-Deficiency Act.

rawstory.com


“POTUS is the greatest TV star in history,” Scaramucci claimed, using the acronym for President of the United States. “Comms should produce video content that constructively operates as ‘The President Donald J. Trump’ show.”

Damn, the yam is probably crying his eyes out that he had to let “the Mooch” go. They certainly think alike. (both idiotic)

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:07:16pm

Well, time to call it a day. Good night, Lizards.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:07:46pm

re: #326 BeachDem

Scaramucci is returning to aid President Donald Trump by setting up an external communications shop with the sole purpose of helping the White House…Such an effort by Scaramucci would potentially violate the Anti-Deficiency Act.

rawstory.com

It would only violate the Anti-Deficiency Act if they actually use Federal money for this (and run a budget deficit). If they use private money, or if Congress appropriates money and they don’t exceed their budget, it would not violate that act.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:09:53pm

re: #326 BeachDem

Scaramucci is returning to aid President Donald Trump by setting up an external communications shop with the sole purpose of helping the White House…Such an effort by Scaramucci would potentially violate the Anti-Deficiency Act.

rawstory.com

Jesus Christ. That was some serious Dear Leader bullshit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:11:55pm

re: #335 MsJ

Jesus Christ. That was some serious Dear Leader bullshit.

Sean Hannity better step up his game.

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451_Montag  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:13:08pm

re: #335 MsJ

Jesus Christ. That was some serious Dear Leader bullshit.

And I’m sure Gen. Kelly will be overjoyed with it as well. Trump tells the Mulch (cooler than Mooch) he been sacked because Kelly insisted on it. He then sets up an external comms shop. Na, nothing fishy there, oh no, just a coincidence.

My aching balls

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Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:14:08pm

re: #335 MsJ

Jesus Christ. That was some serious Dear Leader bullshit.

Yup. Didn’t learn a damn thing from being escorted out of the White House last time.

Mooch’s hubris and derpiness will destroy this venture before it can even get off the ground.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:14:37pm

Voice of America plumps James Comey’s forthcoming book.

voanews.com

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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:15:27pm

Been in and out of town, trying to ignore the world that is past my nose.

I feel surprisingly not pissed-off.

Did I miss anything?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:16:02pm

re: #97 jaunte

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:16:14pm

Isn’t Fox News the off-site Trump administration comms shop?

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451_Montag  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:16:57pm

re: #338 Myron Falwell

Yup. Didn’t learn a damn thing from being escorted out of the White House last time.

Mooch’s hubris and derpiness will destroy this venture before it can even get off the ground.

It will be the “real” comments shop. Definate set up between them. He gets Mooch bravado and general with gobshiteyness, with deniability

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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:16:59pm

re: #342 Decatur Deb

Isn’t Fox News the off-site Trump administration comms shop?

Beta site

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:17:18pm

re: #342 Decatur Deb

Isn’t Fox News the off-site Trump administration comms shop?

Hence my comment above:

re: #336 Anymouse 🌹

Sean Hannity better step up his game.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:17:25pm
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Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:17:54pm

re: #337 451_Montag

And I’m sure Gen. Kelly will be overjoyed with it as well. Trump tells the Mulch (cooler than Mooch) he been sacked because Kelly insisted on it. He then sets up an external comms shop. Na, nothing fishy there, oh no, just a coincidence.

My aching balls

If that’s the case, then Steve Bannon has to be royally pissed off.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:18:05pm
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451_Montag  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:19:01pm

re: #347 Myron Falwell

If that’s the case, then Steve Bannon has to be royally pissed off.

And my heart bleeds for him

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ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:19:13pm

re: #342 Decatur Deb

Isn’t Fox News the off-site Trump administration comms shop?

One of them.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:20:25pm

re: #350 ObserverArt

One of them.

Infowars is the back-up

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:20:26pm

re: #344 Birth Control Works

re: #345 Anymouse 🌹

“Mooch” wants to be “The Trump Show’s” first successful spin-off.

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:21:53pm

re: #334 Anymouse 🌹

It would only violate the Anti-Deficiency Act if they actually use Federal money for this (and run a budget deficit). If they use private money, or if Congress appropriates money and they don’t exceed their budget, it would not violate that act.

I think they’re referring to this section:

The Antideficiency Act prohibits federal employees from:

accepting voluntary services for the United States, or employing personal services not authorized by law, except in cases of emergency involving the safety of human life or the protection of property. 31 U.S.C. § 1342.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:21:58pm

re: #130 jaunte

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:21:59pm

VOA deftly avoids Steve Miller’s Nazi dogwhistle in reporting on Mr. Trump’s support for the anti-immigration bill.

voanews.com

The one comment on the article is a fine example of badly-written English in support of eliminating birthright citizenship.

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ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:23:30pm

re: #351 wheat-dogg

Infowars is the back-up

It goes even deeper….

It’s a Deep State of Conservative Nut Jobs.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:23:49pm

re: #353 BeachDem

I think they’re referring to this section:

The Antideficiency Act prohibits federal employees from:

accepting voluntary services for the United States, or employing personal services not authorized by law, except in cases of emergency involving the safety of human life or the protection of property. 31 U.S.C. § 1342.

That’s the provision under which we Civil Service types could not volunteer to work our Army jobs during the stupid “shutdowns”. The CG said he would have to march us from the building.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:24:54pm

re: #141 Citizen K

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Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:25:13pm

re: #342 Decatur Deb

Isn’t Fox News the off-site Trump administration comms shop?

*cough* Sinclair Broadcasting *cough*

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:25:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:26:00pm

re: #357 Decatur Deb

That’s the provision under which we Civil Service types could not volunteer to work our Army jobs during the stupid “shutdowns”. The CG said he would have to march us from the building.

Didn’t stop we military types though. They could make us work for free. (Every time there was a threat to the budget from Republicans, we would get training from the officer corps reminding us that we still had to work, and we might get paid for it later.)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:26:32pm

re: #346 Birth Control Works

Time to revive this?
The Negro Motorist Green Book

The Negro Motorist Green Book (at times styled The Negro Motorist Green-Book or titled The Negro Travelers’ Green Book) was an annual guidebook for African-American roadtrippers, commonly referred to simply as the Green Book. It was originated and published by New York City mailman Victor Hugo Green from 1936 to 1966, during the era of Jim Crow laws, when open and often legally prescribed discrimination against non-whites was widespread. Although pervasive racial discrimination and poverty limited black car ownership, the emerging African-American middle class bought automobiles as soon as they could, but faced a variety of dangers and inconveniences along the road, from refusal of food and lodging to arbitrary arrest.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:28:54pm

re: #362 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Mr Green was indeed named for the French author. en.wikipedia.org

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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:29:53pm

from my fb

@WhiteHouse says Affirmative Action keeps White Men down. Tell me more please.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:30:39pm

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹

Didn’t stop we military types though. They could make us work for free. (Every time there was a threat to the budget from Republicans, we would get training from the officer corps reminding us that we still had to work, and we might get paid for it later.)

During the first shutdown they let those of us defined as “Emergency-Essential” show up, with the understanding they’d make it good. They tightened up after that.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:31:25pm

We should have realized that Mook wasn’t going to go away quietly. He’s a Queens ankle-biter with a score to settle. What do you want to bet the Mercers are funding this baby shit-show?

His wife made the right move, for sure. Dude’s obsessed with being Trump’s BFF.

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ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:33:17pm

Until I see Steven Miller with calipers and protractors measuring nose angles and ear lengths and aspect ratios of heads I am not convinced he is a real nazi.

Reporter at Presser: “Steve, what’s in that little doctors bag?”

Miller: “Tools. I’m an engineer on the side.”

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:34:22pm

Trump also jealous of the Chinese negotiating an Afghanistan mining contract before we have one.

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:34:52pm

No words

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:35:47pm

“Why are we fighting in Afghanistan, Mr. Trump?”
“We want to mine copper. China gets copper. It’s not fair.”

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wheat-dogg  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:36:08pm

re: #363 wheat-dogg

And in the manner of the Six Degrees game, I taught one of the authors cited in that Wikipedia entry.

Cotten Seiler, Republic of Drivers: A Cultural History of Automobility in America

He’s a history professor at Dickinson College now.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:36:36pm

re: #368 jaunte

NEW: an increasingly frustrated @POTUS, in tense mtg, suggests firing top commander in Afghanistan

Trump also jealous of the Chinese negotiating an Afghanistan mining contract before we have one.

For shit’s sake. Fire or do not fire. There is no “suggest”.

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:38:48pm
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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:38:58pm

re: #372 Decatur Deb

For shit’s sake. Fire or do not fire. There is no “suggest”.

I was more WTF at his comparing it to renovating the 21Club.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:39:34pm

re: #236 dangerman

i often wonder how i would be different if i was raised in a different part of the country, or recent time

i fear for what i would have otherwise become. believed, taken for granted, taken as true due to the “normal” around me

im sure i have as many latent, silent biases as others.
i like to think im smart and rational enough not to have (m)any overt ones

“you’ve got to be carefully taught”

“But you have sunlight on the sand,
And moonlight on the sea.”

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:40:42pm

re: #374 BeachDem

I was more WTF at his comparing it to renovating the 21Club.

The owners of the 21 Club had a goal. Trump has no end-state in mind for Afghanistan.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:41:04pm

re: #374 BeachDem

I was more WTF at his comparing it to renovating the 21Club.

He should spend a lot more time with the generals. They really need to get to know him.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:41:48pm

He’s a looter.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:41:49pm

re: #376 jaunte

The owners of the 21 Club had a goal. Trump has no end-state in mind for Afghanistan.

That would make it 3 presidents in a row.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:43:09pm

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petesh  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:43:19pm

re: #374 BeachDem

I was more WTF at his comparing it to renovating the 21Club.

And getting that wrong!

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:43:47pm
During the July 19 meeting, Trump repeatedly suggested that Defense Secretary James Mattis and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford replace Gen. John Nicholson, the commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, because he is not winning the war, the officials said. Trump has not met Nicholson, and the Pentagon has been considering extending his time in Afghanistan.

Here’s hoping the JCS shove that ‘suggestion’ right up Trump’s ass and give Nicholson an extension.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:44:28pm

re: #378 jaunte

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He’s a looter.

grifter, looter, ZAPHOD

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:45:10pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:45:28pm

re: #366 makeitstop

We should have realized that Mook wasn’t going to go away quietly. He’s a Queens ankle-biter with a score to settle. What do you want to bet the Mercers are funding this baby shit-show?

His wife made the right move, for sure. Dude’s obsessed with being Trump’s BFF.

He’s being linked to Kimberly Guilfoyle & not in a platonic way.

Might just be gossip…

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:46:08pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:47:17pm

re: #368 jaunte

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Trump also jealous of the Chinese negotiating an Afghanistan mining contract before we have one.

‘The Generals’ are going to coup his ass.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:47:45pm

re: #386 Kragar

What exactly are the “skills” Melania Trump possessed?

Therapy. She made a sick old man very happy.

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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:48:24pm

What’s really disturbing is that the man leading these sessions, Ralph Drollinger of Capitol Ministries, is a conservative Christian who has called Catholicism the “world’s largest false religion,” declared homosexuality an “abomination,” and said it’s “sinful” for women with children to serve in Congress.

If he has any influence over these politicians, he sure as hell isn’t making them more inclusive and tolerant. He’s not teaching them to care for the poor, since Trump promoted a healthcare bill that would’ve snatched insurance from millions of lower income people. He’s not teaching them rich people have a hard time entering God’s kingdom, since the Cabinet is full of wealthy people. He’s not teaching them to accept Middle Eastern refugees (like Jesus).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:49:13pm

re: #388 Decatur Deb

Therapy. She made a sick old RICH man very happy.

clarified that for ya…

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:50:34pm

re: #368 jaunte

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Trump also jealous of the Chinese negotiating an Afghanistan mining contract before we have one.

Considering his remarks about Iraq and oil, it’s not surprising that he wants to give up on Afghanistan now that he’s discovered we can’t rape the land for its wealth.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:51:07pm

re: #387 Stanley Sea

‘The Generals’ are going to coup his ass.

That wouldn’t be a good thing.

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:52:12pm
“We aren’t winning. … We are losing.”

Welcome to the Big Leagues, Skippy.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:52:59pm
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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:53:18pm

Trump Has Quietly Accomplished More Than It Appears

“Let me put it this way,” the secretary of housing and urban development told the Washington Examiner. “I’m glad that Trump is drawing all the fire so I can get stuff done.”

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:54:50pm

“Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country” means something very different in the phrasing of a president who believes “l’etat c’est moi.”

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:54:59pm

Wilson’s having a good day.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:55:55pm

re: #396 Barefoot Grin

“Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country” means something very different in the phrasing of a president who believes “l’etat c’est moi.”

Well, he’s got the furniture for it.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:56:21pm

re: #392 Decatur Deb

That wouldn’t be a good thing.

None of this shit show is good.

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2017 • 3:58:17pm

I’m curious as to how Trump’s gonna sell bailing on Afghanistan after years of going after Obama over our “retreat” from Iraq. Last I checked, Afghanistan is even less stable and the threat of the government being overthrown is higher.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:01:03pm

re: #400 Targetpractice

I’m curious as to how Trump’s gonna sell bailing on Afghanistan after years of going after Obama over our “retreat” from Iraq. Last I checked, Afghanistan is even less stable and the threat of the government being overthrown is higher.

We won bigly.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:03:06pm

Hopping around Wikipedia articles, I came across a strange one.

en.wikipedia.org

It seems that Cuba gave East Germany an island off its coast. Since that island is not named in the territories in the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany, some claim the island represents actual territory of a current East Germany.

Others claim the gift was merely symbolic.

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jeffreyw  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:06:28pm

Imgur


Chili Cheese Fries

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:15:23pm

Trumpers online everywhere are still defending their favorite bigot.

They will be with him all the way down.

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:16:54pm

You knew eventually it would all lead to SOROS…and THE ROTHSCHILDS

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ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:18:45pm

re: #404 freetoken

Trumpers online everywhere are still defending their favorite bigot.

They will be with him all the way down.

The real key is how many “theys” there are.

I wonder if there is any kind of measurable way of telling if Trumpers online numbers are diminishing?

I bet both Facebook and Twitter have ways of telling activity.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:19:45pm

re: #396 Barefoot Grin

“Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country” means something very different in the phrasing of a president who believes “l’etat c’est moi.”

I think we’ve got us a furriner!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:19:57pm

re: #403 jeffreyw

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Chili Cheese Fries

Poutine crashes with salad. News at eleven.

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:20:28pm

re: #406 ObserverArt

My Facebook wall has probably been undergoing an exorcism of sorts. Given my pointy comments to wingnut post that show up, I think I’m slowly being unfollowed by several.

Twitter though - it never stops. What a stream of idiocy.

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ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:20:32pm

re: #405 BeachDem

You knew eventually it would all lead to SOROS…and THE ROTHSCHILDS

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I wonder…is that cartoon they mention a Ben Garrison original? It sounds like it has the elements. I’m not going to check…

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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:20:48pm

By William F. Buckley, supposedly published in Cigar Aficionado in 2000.
On Donald Trump and Demagoguery

It is a program that includes the visionary’s serving as President. Look for the narcissist. The most obvious target in today’s lineup is, of course, Donald Trump. When he looks at a glass, he is mesmerized by its reflection. If Donald Trump were shaped a little differently, he would compete for Miss America. But whatever the depths of self-enchantment, the demagogue has to say something. So what does Trump say? That he is a successful businessman and that that is what America needs in the Oval Office. There is some plausibility in this, though not much. The greatest deeds of American Presidents — midwifing the new republic; freeing the slaves; harnessing the energies and vision needed to win the Cold War — had little to do with a bottom line.

published now in the National Review.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:21:48pm

re: #405 BeachDem

You knew eventually it would all lead to SOROS…and THE ROTHSCHILDS

I’m still waiting for my Sorosbux from Mr. Soros, for subverting my conservative little village. Guy doesn’t pay his bills.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:22:05pm
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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:23:54pm

re: #362 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Time to revive this?
The Negro Motorist Green Book

It would help me know where to avoid.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:24:37pm

re: #414 Birth Control Works

It would help me know where to avoid.

Well, according to the NAACP, Missouri right now is a good place to avoid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:25:53pm

re: #400 Targetpractice

I’m curious as to how Trump’s gonna sell bailing on Afghanistan after years of going after Obama over our “retreat” from Iraq. Last I checked, Afghanistan is even less stable and the threat of the government being overthrown is higher.

I am so not shocked that there is not a single person amongst trump’s expert advisors who know at least a modicum of recent ME history to understand that NO ONE WINS in Afghanistan.
Ever.

Add to that the fact that Russia is backing the Taliban now…goes to show that even Putin didn’t learn a damned thing when, last time it tried to be the bad ass player, the Soviet Union lost everything in Afghanistan…and that happened during his own adult lifetime.

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BeachDem  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:26:56pm

re: #410 ObserverArt

I wonder…is that cartoon they mention a Ben Garrison original? Ut sounds like it has the elements. I’m not going to check…

I didn’t go there either (there’s just so much derp a body can stand.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:27:11pm

re: #380 Birth Control Works

Ahh — the traditional Star Trek red shirt reference. Opposite to “Live long and prosper”!

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Birth Control Works  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:28:57pm

enough reality, I’m going back to photoshop

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wheat-dogg  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:37:40pm

re: #405 BeachDem

Speaking of the Rothschilds, some segments of the Bitcoin universe were all up in arms recently when they learned about the Rothschild Investment Company buying shares in a Bitcoin ETF.

The company is based in Chicago and was founded in 1903 by a German-American with no connections to the famous banking family. Didn’t stop CT-minded nutjobs from flying off the handle.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:42:12pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:42:17pm

re: #403 jeffreyw

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Chili Cheese Fries

My favorite fry = the crinkle cut

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makeitstop  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:42:37pm

re: #411 Birth Control Works

By William F. Buckley, supposedly published in Cigar Aficionado in 2000.
On Donald Trump and Demagoguery

published now in the National Review.

Buckley is about to become irrelevant to the Trump Cult.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:42:47pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:47:26pm

re: #340 Birth Control Works

Been in and out of town, trying to ignore the world that is past my nose.

I feel surprisingly not pissed-off.

Did I miss anything?

Every two hours is a new day now.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:50:34pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:50:54pm

NYC! NYC! NYC!

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:52:06pm

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am so not shocked that there is not a single person amongst trump’s expert advisors who know at least a modicum of recent ME history to understand that NO ONE WINS in Afghanistan.
Ever.

Add to that the fact that Russia is backing the Taliban now…goes to show that even Putin didn’t learn a damned thing when, last time it tried to be the bad ass player, the Soviet Union lost everything in Afghanistan…and that happened during his own adult lifetime.

The primary reason the Russians lost was Charlie Wilson and our intervention in the conflict. It’s payback time for the Russians: they are doing to us what we did to them.

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freetoken  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:53:46pm

re: #427 Stanley Sea

In early May, the company drew attention for a marketing campaign in Beijing and Shanghai that solicited Chinese investors for One Journal Square, saying that up to 300 individuals who put $500,000 each into the project could be eligible for green cards under the EB-5 program, according to marketing materials reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Isn’t that the goal? I thought the new immigration goals were to exclude the huddled masses, while seeking out those with money.

In this regards, isn’t Kushner simply applying what are the ideals of Trumpian immigration?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:54:09pm

I hope Trump is the anchor that sinks the entire GOP…

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:55:40pm

re: #426 Kragar

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Another day, another investigation into the ways the Trumps and their kin have tried to monetize the White House.

But her emails…//////

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:55:40pm

re: #429 freetoken

Isn’t that the goal? I thought the new immigration goals were to exclude the huddled masses, while seeking out those with money.

In this regards, isn’t Kushner simply applying what are the ideals of Trumpian immigration?

Do they speak English tho?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:59:04pm

“Give me your rich, your privileged, your well connected, yearning to screw us all.
Send these wealthy (and make sure they speak English!) and snobby elites to me,
I lift my lamp in front of the YUGE Wall!”

- The Orange Colossus

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 4:59:45pm

Watch this. omg

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:00:10pm

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joseph Conrad learned English at the age of 20 working on British ships.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:01:25pm
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wheat-dogg  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:02:22pm

re: #435 Barefoot Grin

Joseph Conrad learned English at the age of 20 working on British ships.

Wrote a few books, I hear.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:05:07pm

re: #437 wheat-dogg

Wrote a few books, I hear.

Not to everyone’s taste, but I liked them. Second to Thomas Hardy, though, for me.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:05:42pm

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am so not shocked that there is not a single person amongst trump’s expert advisors who know at least a modicum of recent ME history to understand that NO ONE WINS in Afghanistan.
Ever.

Add to that the fact that Russia is backing the Taliban now…goes to show that even Putin didn’t learn a damned thing when, last time it tried to be the bad ass player, the Soviet Union lost everything in Afghanistan…and that happened during his own adult lifetime.

Putin backing the Taliban makes sense in the context of opposing the USA, however. Couple that with Trump “suggesting” he fire the commander of our forces there, and Putin gets an additional benefit.

Undermining command authority by the President is bad for the whole US military. If you’re going to fire a flag officer for something, you just do it.

Speculating publicly whether you might only throws the whole chain-of-command from general to private into question, weakening morale.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:08:27pm

Meanwhile, another national leader further consolidates power:

Emergency Meeting in Beijing Signals Growing Intensity of Xi’s Political Campaign
theepochtimes.com

It has been customary for high officials to meet up and set the tone for the upcoming Party congress, which will finalize the top leadership structure for the next five years. But the meeting this year seemed to be curiously secretive. Snapshots from China Central Television, the state television broadcaster, reveal a group of solemn officials sitting upright behind a spotless table devoid of notebooks, pens, or even cups for water—a stark contrast to the typical scene of hunchbacked notetaking.

According to Ming Chu-cheng, head of National Taiwan University’s political science department, the last time a secret Party meeting was held under similar circumstances came soon after Lin Biao, China’s top military commander and a designated successor to Mao Zedong, died in a plane crash when fleeing to the Soviet Union.

Hu Ping, chief editor of the overseas magazine Beijing Spring, believes that Xi [Jinping] convened the conference to further consolidate power. He notes that the timing of the conference was close to the purge of prominent Chongqing official Sun Zhengcai, on July 24.

Xi, Hu said, might have wanted to provide some explanation for the recent political reshuffling and rally the Party around him.

Some are saying Xi may become the new Mao, at least in terms of control of the party apparatus.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:10:37pm

re: #440 wheat-dogg

Interested in how much political speak to you come across when you are there?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:10:49pm

re: #419 Birth Control Works

enough reality, I’m going back to photoshop

I gave up on reality some time ago. I made #8 on a global leaderboard while working off my stress by killing zombies in Virtual Reality a couple of nights ago. Virtual Reality is much better than real reality these days.

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Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:11:08pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:12:20pm

re: #436 Kragar

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Wait, isn’t the whole point to “investigating” Comey accusations that his memos contained “classified information” and sharing it with his buddy was a major breach of national security?

Or do we just point and laugh at the guy who was pledging to go after “leakers” being revealed as a leaker to wingnuts?

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:13:49pm

re: #444 Targetpractice

Wait, isn’t the whole point to “investigating” Comey accusations that his memos contained “classified information” and sharing it with his buddy was a major breach of national security?

Or do we just point and laugh at the guy who was pledging to go after “leakers” being revealed as a leaker to wingnuts?

It’s Okay if You’re a Republican.

Maybe we should replace “The New Colossus” poem on the Statue of Liberty with that.

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A Cranky One  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:14:41pm

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹

Yay! Our water test Monday came back negative! One down, one to go.

If we can get one more negative water test for coliform, we get off the state shit list.
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I see what you did there.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:15:00pm

Folks if you can help with prayers and good thoughts anything positive—my grandnephew Joshua has been suffering from seizure episodes ever since he was born. Last night he had a very severe seizure set that triggered a stroke. He’s currently in Pittsburgh’s Children’s Hospital. Any positive thoughts, any prayers, anything is appreciated right now.

As soon as I get updates I will post them to the community.

Thanks, friends. Appreciated!

Joe B

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:15:14pm

re: #440 wheat-dogg

Meanwhile, another national leader further consolidates power:

Emergency Meeting in Beijing Signals Growing Intensity of Xi’s Political Campaign
theepochtimes.com

Some are saying Xi may become the new Mao, at least in terms of control of the party apparatus.

wow, thanks for this info. It’s going to be intense, to be sure, since no one really knows what goes on in the inner circles of the party.

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EPR-radar  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:16:33pm

re: #411 Birth Control Works

WF Buckley did much more than most to bring about tr*mp and tr*mpzis.

IMO, the kind of disaster we have now became inevitable once the Republicans decided to go all-in on fostering white resentment as a way to get votes. The National Review has been all about white resentment since its very first issue.

450
Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:16:34pm

re: #434 Stanley Sea

Watch this. omg

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Crisis fish.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:16:37pm

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

Folks if you can help with prayers and good thoughts anything positive—my grandnephew Joshua has been suffering from seizure episodes ever since he was born. Last night he had a very severe seizure set that triggered a stroke. He’s currently in Pittsburgh’s Children’s Hospital. Any positive thoughts, any prayers, anything is appreciated right now.

As soon as I get updates I will post them to the community.

Thanks, friends. Appreciated!

Joe B

I’m a lapsed Presbyterian, but I still pray anyway every day and will include your grandnephew Joshua tonight and in the coming days.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:18:23pm

re: #439 Anymouse 🌹

Putin backing the Taliban makes sense in the context of opposing the USA, however. Couple that with Trump “suggesting” he fire the commander of our forces there, and Putin gets an additional benefit.

Undermining command authority by the President is bad for the whole US military. If you’re going to fire a flag officer for something, you just do it.

Speculating publicly whether you might only throws the whole chain-of-command from general to private into question, weakening morale.

He would have learned that as an infantry lieutenant in Viet Nam, if not for the bone spurs.

453
Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:19:30pm

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

Folks if you can help with prayers and good thoughts anything positive—my grandnephew Joshua has been suffering from seizure episodes ever since he was born. Last night he had a very severe seizure set that triggered a stroke. He’s currently in Pittsburgh’s Children’s Hospital. Any positive thoughts, any prayers, anything is appreciated right now.

As soon as I get updates I will post them to the community.

Thanks, friends. Appreciated!

Joe B

My thoughts and concerns for your grandnephew’s speedy recovery.

454
wheat-dogg  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:21:36pm

re: #441 Stanley Sea

Interested in how much political speak to you come across when you are there?

Within China, most citizens self-censor and only talk about their own political views with trusted friends. The Epoch Times is associated with the Falun Gong movement, which is banned as a subversive cult in China. So, you can imagine it’s hard to read it while inside China. The South China Morning Post of Hong Kong is also blocked, even though it is now owned by a mainlander, Jack Ma Yun of Alibaba fame.

Even I have to be careful about what I say or publish. As a foreign worker, they could deport me at the drop of a hat, should they choose.

455
Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:22:05pm

re: #449 EPR-radar

WF Buckley did much more than most to bring about tr*mp and tr*mpzis.

IMO, the kind of disaster we have now became inevitable once the Republicans decided to go all-in on fostering white resentment as a way to get votes. The National Review has been all about white resentment since its very first issue.

National Review is simply the American Mercury without the overt embrace of Nazi dogma. Always has been.

(To wit, WFB left the Mercury just before an ownership change made them go full Nazi.)

456
CleverToad  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:22:17pm

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

Any positive thoughts, any prayers, anything is appreciated right now.

Joe B

{{Sending a prayer for Joshua, for his parents, and for you and the rest of the family who love and worry for him}}

457
Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:23:21pm

huffingtonpost.com

Betsy Southerland resigns from Trump’s EPA with a scathing letter. She has worked for the department for forty years.

“Today the environmental field is suffering from the temporary triumph of myth over truth,” she wrote. “The truth is there is NO war on coal, there is NO economic crisis caused by environmental protection, and climate change IS caused by man’s activities.”

458
Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:24:06pm

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

yjZ4k62HxjEnQFQyfPDHNEVaHN1FML6uUCIGBKHi+SozlpSk2Kkoi9tvhDdnB5kzofkIbcq+xnBIJxHxcCjtT6RdYED0G/MRZqTMUzcpJ0smxC6fnyA81q9Tv0oKKHgOOHim7+KB3oAUhSr370FeSg==

459
Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:24:14pm

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

Folks if you can help with prayers and good thoughts anything positive—my grandnephew Joshua has been suffering from seizure episodes ever since he was born. Last night he had a very severe seizure set that triggered a stroke. He’s currently in Pittsburgh’s Children’s Hospital. Any positive thoughts, any prayers, anything is appreciated right now.

As soon as I get updates I will post them to the community.

Thanks, friends. Appreciated!

Joe B

Good thoughts. At least he’s in one of the best places for a hurting kid.

460
Kragar  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:26:57pm
461
nowherenorth2  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:27:16pm

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

Many thoughts. Need an ear, please ask. Always willing to listen and help.

462
Schweppes7  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:28:52pm

re: #457 Anymouse 🌹

Check out this unprofessional classless response from EPA spokesman which Daily Caller is of course running with:

“”It’s hard to believe that Elizabeth Southerland is retiring because of a budget proposal and not because she’s eligible for her government pension,” EPA spokesman Jahan Wilcox said in an emailed statement to The Daily Caller News Foundation.”

dailycaller.com

463
451_Montag  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:29:16pm

Just researched the wannabe Nazi Miller\Jim Acosta fracas and a thought occurred. We often say that Trump is a cult.

Has anyone seen the BBC documentary “Scientology and Me” with John Sweeney? Miller came across just like Tommy Davis who was the Scientology spokesman. Even the language was the same. Really weird.

464
wheat-dogg  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:32:06pm

re: #448 Barefoot Grin

wow, thanks for this info. It’s going to be intense, to be sure, since no one really knows what goes on in the inner circles of the party.

Xi’s efforts to clean corruption from the Party have curiously been focused on Party officials who are believed to be outside his particular group of supporters. Quite convenient that all the corrupt guys happen to be his enemies.

Also, pictures and online searches of Winnie the Pooh are now reportedly banned in China, because of the following images and ones similar to them.

Don’t mock the the portly leader
465
FormerDirtDart  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:33:23pm

Horrible, terrible…
Safe for work, but maybe not for viewing immediately following a meal, or while consuming a beverage

466
Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:33:50pm

ACLU files an amicus brief in support of John Oliver in the lawsuit against him by Robert Murray, Coal Baron (tm).

The ACLU brief is hilarious. (They ask the judge to throw out the suit.) More at the link:

The brief also directly addresses Murray with section headings like “All of John Oliver’s Speech Was Protected by the First Amendment. You Can’t Sue People for Being Mean to You, Bob”; “Plaintiff’s Requested Injunction Is Clearly Unconstitutional. You Can’t Get a Court Order Telling the Press How to Cover Stories, Bob”; and “Anyone Can Legally Say ‘Eat Shit, Bob!’”

huffingtonpost.com

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wheat-dogg  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:35:10pm

re: #463 451_Montag

Just researched the wannabe Nazi Miller\Jim Acosta fracas and a thought occurred. We often say that Trump is a cult.

Has anyone seen the BBC documentary “Scientology and Me” with John Sweeney? Miller came across just like Tommy Davis who was the Scientology spokesman. Even the language was the same. Really weird.

Speaking of that, I posted this Twitter just now. Republishing here for later use.

Statue of Liberty timeline
468
Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:37:50pm

Gawd I love Ana Navarro.

On CNN now about immigration.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:39:25pm

re: #452 Decatur Deb

He would have learned that as an infantry lieutenant in Viet Nam, if not for the bone spurs.

I would still like to see a comedy/alt-history with Trump, Romney, and Nugent serving in the same Sad Sack unit in Vietnam. We could throw in Phil Robertson and some other RWNJ draft dodgers while we’re at it.

470
Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:40:26pm

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

Folks if you can help with prayers and good thoughts anything positive—my grandnephew Joshua has been suffering from seizure episodes ever since he was born. Last night he had a very severe seizure set that triggered a stroke. He’s currently in Pittsburgh’s Children’s Hospital. Any positive thoughts, any prayers, anything is appreciated right now.

As soon as I get updates I will post them to the community.

Thanks, friends. Appreciated!

Joe B

{{{Joe Bacon and family}}}

471
Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:40:29pm

re: #464 wheat-dogg

Xi’s efforts to clean corruption from the Party have curiously been focused on Party officials who are believed to be outside his particular group of supporters. Quite convenient that all the corrupt guys happen to be his enemies.

Also, pictures and online searches of Winnie the Pooh are now reportedly banned in China, because of the following images and ones similar to them.

[Embedded content]

I did a bit of reading on the backgrounds and fates of Xi and Bo Xilai last fall. Really revealing. I think that Xi is looking for a Mao-like grasp on power, but of course for different reasons overall. Where Mao turned inward once Stalin died, Xi is more like an early Tang dynasty emperor, building military and hoping to open and control routes and politics through overland and maritime silk roads. Those grand ambitions can’t work if he doesn’t have total control over party and people for an extended period (and there’s the personal fortune of his family, corruption he has in common with those he’s attacking).

472
Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:40:43pm

re: #468 Stanley Sea

Gawd I love Ana Navarro.

On CNN now about immigration.

I would love her a lot better if she publicly denounced the GOP and left the party. Her continued membership in the party lends legitimacy to the idea there are “moderates” in the GOP.

473
Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:43:53pm

re: #469 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I would still like to see a comedy/alt-history with Trump, Romney, and Nugent serving in the same Sad Sack unit in Vietnam. We could throw in Phil Robertson and some other RWNJ draft dodgers while we’re at it.

M*U*S*H.

474
Myron Falwell  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:44:59pm

re: #472 Anymouse 🌹

I would love her a lot better if she publicly denounced the GOP and left the party. Her continued membership in the party lends legitimacy to the idea there are “moderates” in the GOP.

She did endorse, campaign and vote for Hillary.

I agree, she should leave the party… but that would inevitably mean CNN will replace her with another bullshit artist in the name of the Magic Balance Fairy.

I want to believe that Ana’s carefully thinking this over.

475
Anymouse 🌹  Aug 2, 2017 • 5:46:36pm

re: #474 Myron Falwell

She did endorse, campaign and vote for Hillary.

I agree, she should leave the party… but that would inevitably mean CNN will replace her with another bullshit artist in the name of the Magic Balance Fairy.

I want to believe that Ana’s carefully thinking this over.

There shouldn’t be any thought required. The Republican Party is opposed to things like rights for Latinas.

476
Jay C  Aug 2, 2017 • 6:03:38pm

re: #432 Stanley Sea

Do they speak English tho?

They can hire translators, so it’s OK.

477
ObserverArt  Aug 2, 2017 • 6:45:29pm

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

Folks if you can help with prayers and good thoughts anything positive—my grandnephew Joshua has been suffering from seizure episodes ever since he was born…

Joe B

Sorry to hear about the young man Joe. I hope for good care and health for him.


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