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dangerman  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:11:41pm

ok, reposting from downstairs cause y’all just left me there

(dinner was yum)

just want to point out the over obvious, if we really do get past diplomacy being a solution:

if NK shoots something toward guam, depending on what it is, we dont *have* to retaliate with nukes

if somehow we’re ‘provoked’/forced into a ‘first strike’ or ‘warning’ maneuver - ie NK hasnt actually shot anything off, we dont necessarily have to use nukes there either

this doesnt mean they wouldnt respond nuclear. and still it doesnt consider what would happen re South Korea etc and all the conventional weapons amassed on the border

just that ‘we’ can/could drop/send/deliver lots of different things, and mass quantities, that arent nuclear

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nines09  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:13:34pm

This is the last photograph of Steve Bannon and his liver together. Right after this was taken, his liver broke through his lower rib cage and screamed as it took in its first breath and ran out the door.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:16:18pm
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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:17:03pm

I heard an interview with the author on NPR. He told Terri Gross Bannon is a true believer in his sick shit. I did not come away thinking he was a brilliant evil fucker though.

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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:19:38pm

This is as good a place as any to re-up this page.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:19:55pm

Of course not. Selfish fuckers spend their spare time plotting to kill us.
That is, when they’re not crapping in our shoes or pissing in the houseplants.

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:21:02pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Our numbers are tanking
Quick get me a new poll, I’ll do the rest

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:25:35pm

I love Preet!!

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nines09  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:26:05pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

Of course not. Selfish fuckers spend their spare time plotting to kill us.
That is, when they’re not crapping in our shoes or pissing in the houseplants.

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NO SHIT????!!??
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electrotek  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:27:25pm

British Muslims need to stop engaging in a victimization complex and straight up condemn the perverts and sexual deviants amongst them:

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:42:28pm

Slate: Why the dumb stuff Trump says is actually smart.

Yeah, that’s a hot take on hot takes - mostly because it assumes facts not in evidence because there’s no evidence Trump has ever had a strategy or outcome he could stick to for more than 5 minutes.

These are the same people who think that Trump would pivot.

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gocart mozart  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:42:41pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:43:55pm
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makeitstop  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:44:02pm

A short thread on Manafort’s lawyer troubles.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:44:35pm

I’m trying one more time with this guy, because he was clearly reacting to my tweet from a place of trauma.

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electrotek  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:46:27pm

Man, they really have it in against liberalism, don’t they?

Yet it still doesn’t stop some conservative Muslims from desperately seeking support from a group of people that hate us no matter what.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:47:09pm

I guess it’s too much to expect Kelly to elbow Trump or kick him underneath the table. Maybe just stick a fork in his leg.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:48:23pm
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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:48:36pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

I guess it’s too much to expect Kelly to elbow Trump or kick him underneath the table. Maybe just stick a fork in his leg.

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So Trump is going to fire the expelled diplomats?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:49:25pm

re: #19 b.d. (bill d.)

So Trump is going to fire the expelled diplomats?

You know how Trump hates to fire people in person. I guess he thought Putin had done it for him.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:51:15pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

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Do not insult the toads.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:52:25pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

You know how Trump hates to fire people in person. I guess he thought Putin had done it for him.

lol, they’re kinda a team those two.

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electrotek  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:53:02pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:56:34pm

This is what I am doing to calm myself

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:58:09pm

re: #21 wrenchwench

Do not insult the toads.

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Not all toads! Just the malevolent ones.

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:58:12pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

You’re a good hombre!

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:58:32pm

re: #23 electrotek

A friend of mine works at Google and his first impression of this mess was that this clown is likely an idiot that stepped on a land mine without really knowing what he did. My first impression was the more cynical view that this idiot is executing a RWNJ martyrdom operation in the US culture wars.

Further evidence appears to be consistent with the more cynical view.

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retired cynic  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:58:45pm

re: #24 The Vicious Babushka

This is what I am doing to calm myself

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You can calm me anytime.

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SteelPH  Aug 10, 2017 • 5:59:53pm

re: #24 The Vicious Babushka

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Danack  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:00:44pm

re: #23 electrotek

lol what a total dork

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That guy has just fucked up his life.

Getting fired for being an asshole…..maybe possible to recover from that.

Going on right wing media to make your former employer look bad? No sane company would want to hire him ever again.

The guy has only been in the workforce for about 3 years apparently. So it’s not as if he’s got a massive skillset to make people look past his asshole-ness.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:01:14pm

re: #24 The Vicious Babushka

This is what I am doing to calm myself

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Dang. I can has some?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:01:21pm

re: #11 lawhawk

Slate: Why the dumb stuff Trump says is actually smart.

Yeah, that’s a hot take on hot takes - mostly because it assumes facts not in evidence because there’s no evidence Trump has ever had a strategy or outcome he could stick to for more than 5 minutes.

These are the same people who think that Trump would pivot.

Exactly, Trump is the severely narcissistic idiot king of a bunch of dipshit bigoted supporters who need someone to channel their worst instincts through. It’s socio-pathology not rocket science. America is a grotesquely dysfunctional society, in many ways it always has been and we’ve been very good at glossing over this fact because at the end of the day we had adult level if often times imperfect leadership.

W’s presidency, with its lying us into war and torture advocacy was a harbinger of what we’re seeing today but still at the end of the day orders of magnitude more professional.

I’m honestly not sure if the United States that I lived in until this year is dead or if it ever really existed. What I do know is that whatever national facade once kept us (*us being liberal and moderate white america) from seeing the true and monstrous faces of our cultural peers has been irrevocably destroyed.

*I say white America because I’m pretty sure most visible minorities have recognized this truth for a long time. Indeed how could they not have.

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electrotek  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:02:50pm

re: #30 Danack

That guy has just fucked up his life.

Getting fired for being an asshole…..maybe possible to recover from that.

Going on right wing media to make your former employer look bad? No sane company would want to hire him ever again.

The guy has only been in the workforce for about 3 years apparently. So it’s not as if he’s got a massive skillset to make people look past his asshole-ness.

Wingnut welfare, never underestimate it.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:05:37pm

re: #30 Danack

That guy has just fucked up his life.

Getting fired for being an asshole…..maybe possible to recover from that.

Going on right wing media to make your former employer look bad? No sane company would want to hire him ever again.

The guy has only been in the workforce for about 3 years apparently. So it’s not as if he’s got a massive skillset to make people look past his asshole-ness.

I don’t think the RWNJ interviews materially change his situation vs. a corporate employer. He’d be radioactive for the rest of his life with or without the stupid interviews. Whether or not he realizes it, wingnut welfare is his best career option at this point.

I do like the thought that those interviews aren’t going to help him in any lawsuit he may attempt vs. Google.

Since he was talented enough to get in the door at Google, he could become a more competent peddler of RWNJ propaganda than most, if he decides to turn completely to the dark side.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:05:42pm
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nowherenorth2  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:05:50pm

I saw that rep Harris is calling Dana loesch amd the nra a bad group moving towards domestic terrorism due to their advocating of violence against minorities and liberals.

They also advocate fisting right?

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:06:08pm

I would like to purchase if possible…..

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:07:34pm

re: #23 electrotek

This thread is for that POS.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:08:05pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

I sure tr*mp has a perfectly fine conservative sense of humor. It kicks in when he sees humiliation (preferably painful) of some person he deems to be ‘lesser’.

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nowherenorth2  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:08:07pm

My bad. Representative rice. Sorry guys and gals

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:12:12pm
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scottslemmons  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:14:04pm

re: #33 electrotek

Wingnut welfare, never underestimate it.

Who’s he gonna write for? He ain’t got the writing skills for anything more complicated than WND or Gateway Pundit. He ain’t got the looks for TV.

His 15 minutes are ticking.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:14:35pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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Unfortunately, the big $$ are shorting national unity and civic society.

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:14:47pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Has anyone ever seen Donald Trump laugh a real laugh? I haven’t. I suspect he doesn’t really understand the concept of humor.

The tell: he can’t even smile naturally.

He has no fun bone. He cannot relax enough to get off laughing.

I swear his parents must have been something, because they fucked him up.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:15:23pm

re: #30 Danack

That guy has just fucked up his life.

Getting fired for being an asshole…..maybe possible to recover from that.

Going on right wing media to make your former employer look bad? No sane company would want to hire him ever again.

The guy has only been in the workforce for about 3 years apparently. So it’s not as if he’s got a massive skillset to make people look past his asshole-ness.

He’ll be fine, didn’t Rage Furby put up a fundraiser page for him?

Wingnut welfare will dump money on him for a while for being some kind of brave, straight shooter.

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electrotek  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:15:30pm

re: #42 scottslemmons

Who’s he gonna write for? He ain’t got the writing skills for anything more complicated than WND or Gateway Pundit. He ain’t got the looks for TV.

His 15 minutes are ticking.

Stephen Miller ain’t exactly a looker, but look how influential he is nowadays.

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retired cynic  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:15:33pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Where are the ruby slippers when you need them?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:15:46pm

Sometimes reaching out can actually work.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:16:57pm
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nines09  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:17:51pm

re: #24 The Vicious Babushka

THAT’S NOT CALMING ME……
pecans….blueberries….caramel….WITH SOUR CREAM…..and some light sea salt and a crispy bottom and some sweet butter and, and, and….CHIPS??!!???

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:20:01pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

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And it still won’t compare to the fetid stench in the offal office.

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electrotek  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:20:47pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:21:09pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

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We have had some blooms here in Columbus at Ohio State University.

Not sure I want to be around one…but they are big!

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:22:13pm

re: #51 Barefoot Grin

And it still won’t compare to the fetid stench in the offal office.

The Cesspit of Satan there has unique properties. US conservatives think that stench is manna from Heaven, but the odor has been known to wipe out entire space-faring civilizations as far away as the galactic core.

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A Cranky One  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:23:07pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:24:42pm
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danarchy  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:25:25pm

re: #30 Danack

That guy has just fucked up his life.

Getting fired for being an asshole…..maybe possible to recover from that.

Going on right wing media to make your former employer look bad? No sane company would want to hire him ever again.

The guy has only been in the workforce for about 3 years apparently. So it’s not as if he’s got a massive skillset to make people look past his asshole-ness.

I think this may be a bit of wishful thinking on your part. If he is a good software engineer there will be lots of bros in management in the software industry who will count that memo as a plus.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:26:32pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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“Must keep pure our precious body fluids.”

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:26:40pm

I just got back from delivering a water sample to the lab.

re: #121 makeitstop

So’s a dulcimer! Where’s Anymouse? He woulda said that.

(in regards to various stringed instruments being percussive)

“Hey, a hammered dulcimer is a string percussion instrument”

(There, I said it)

Too bad after Monday I won’t be able to play mine for several weeks (left hand surgery)

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:29:55pm

I wonder what Obama is up to.
Sigh.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:30:52pm

Pyongyang apparently launders money through Macau casinos. Maybe Donald, Sheldon, and Kim Jong-un could work something out.

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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:31:36pm

re: #60 JordanRules

I wonder what Obama is up to.

HE’S UNDER A PIZZA PARLOR DOING GHASTLY THINGS TO CHILDREN AND WATCHING SNUFF FILMS.

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:33:25pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

Even with this snarky crew, I got caught slippin’. Spit some of my drink out. LOL Did not see that coming.

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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:35:01pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

HE’S UNDER A PIZZA PARLOR DOING GHASTLY THINGS TO CHILDREN AND WATCHING SNUFF FILMS.

I just heard that on the ‘net. It must be true.

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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:35:57pm

re: #63 JordanRules

Giphy

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:39:20pm

re: #57 danarchy

I think this may be a bit of wishful thinking on your part. If he is a good software engineer there will be lots of bros in management in the software industry who will count that memo as a plus.

In a small enough shop, sure. In a BigCorp, legal will veto it. There is real legal exposure in keeping someone like this around in any state that still has any labor law protection for workers (e.g., CA).

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:40:16pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:42:36pm

A new voice for the times (new to me, at least)dailykos.com

Some samples:

Oh. So we’re having a 21st century nuclear standoff, where the fate of all life on Earth hangs on the whims two buffoons with the personalities of Kids Who Don’t Make it to the Second Reel of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?

Weirdly, all those frothing-mad tweets the Marmalade Shartcannon sent out a lil’ while ago? The ones where he shit directly down Jeff Sessions’ throat for recusing himself from the Russia investigation? Yeah, those happened a couple hours after the Manafort raid.

Some creep called Robert Jeffress, who I guess is some kind of hate rally warm-up act/mega-church pastor, is making the rounds screeching about how he ate some Little Debbie cakes four years after their expiration date, and then he saw God, and God told him that he sent the Man With Phalangeal Stunting to this World of Sin in order to cleanse North Korea from the face of the earth in holy fire or some psychotic apocalyptic shit or other.

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Interesting Times  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:47:03pm
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Momkat56  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:48:07pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

Too bad after Monday I won’t be able to play mine for several weeks (left hand surgery)

My Dad has had a few surgeries for Dupuytren’s contractures. Here’s hoping for the best results from yours.

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calochortus  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:48:47pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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I heard Al Franken say pretty much the same thing the other day. No one has seen Trump laugh.

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danarchy  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:49:51pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

In a small enough shop, sure. In a BigCorp, legal will veto it. There is real legal exposure in keeping someone like this around in any state that still has any labor law protection for workers (e.g., CA).

Most shops are small to medium. Also, why the heck would legal get involved, there is no accusation this guy did anything even vaguely illegal.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:52:43pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:54:12pm

re: #69 Interesting Times

How sad in America that only conservatives get investigated, fired, boycotted and attacked. Double standard, & liberal silence is repulsive!

Damn, didn’t know Hillary was that conservative and had changed party.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:56:18pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 10, 2017 • 6:56:41pm

re: #69 Interesting Times

Fuck Sean Hannity

IOW

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fern01  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:00:13pm

re: #77 Unshaken Defiance

Just saw Rachel and the non information coming from the State Department - the Hannity response under Obama/Clinton would be screamed from the mountain

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:04:03pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:05:57pm

I’ve been traveling all day and just saw this….WTFITS?!?

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:06:41pm

re: #72 danarchy

Most shops are small to medium. Also, why the heck would legal get involved, there is no accusation this guy did anything even vaguely illegal.

Just having him on board in any kind of managerial or collaboration capacity could be construed as creating a hostile work environment vs. women. That’s enough to get everyone in corporate legal to crap out their colons in a panic in states where that kind of lawsuit can be filed.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:07:29pm

re: #80 Dr. Matt

I’ve been traveling all day and just saw this….WTFITS?!?

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It’s complete crap.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:10:08pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

It’s complete crap.

Shocking. But, it’s not going to stop Trump and his deplorables from repeating this as truth for the next 4 to 20 years.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:10:19pm

re: #70 Momkat56

My Dad has had a few surgeries for Dupuytren’s contractures. Here’s hoping for the best results from yours.

This will be my fifth surgery. This particular operation can only be done so many times before there are diminishing returns.

They first developed before I was forty (thanks to being triggered by my epilepsy meds). When I went in for my first operation, an operating room nurse commented that I was the youngest person she ever saw having that surgery.

I’ll be headed to Cheyenne Monday for my pre-op, with surgery kicking off first thing Tuesday morning. (Might be able to say my last good-byes to y’all Monday night from the hotel the VA puts me up in [in case I don’t survive], if I can get Wifi there.)

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b_sharp  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:10:40pm

re: #1 dangerman

ok, reposting from downstairs cause y’all just left me there

(dinner was yum)

just want to point out the over obvious, if we really do get past diplomacy being a solution:

if NK shoots something toward guam, depending on what it is, we dont *have* to retaliate with nukes

if somehow we’re ‘provoked’/forced into a ‘first strike’ or ‘warning’ maneuver - ie NK hasnt actually shot anything off, we dont necessarily have to use nukes there either

this doesnt mean they wouldnt respond nuclear. and still it doesnt consider what would happen re South Korea etc and all the conventional weapons amassed on the border

just that ‘we’ can/could drop/send/deliver lots of different things, and mass quantities, that arent nuclear

That misses the point - saber rattling with a nutcase like Kim is not only ineffective but is likely to produce the opposite effect. In a rational person’s mind military might makes a difference but in today’s global economy economic influence has an even larger impact. Kim is not rational. He likely believes NK is quite able to respond to the US on an equal footing & that the US is incapable of hurting NK significantly.

Engaging a schoolyard bully with ‘my dick is bigger than yours’ isn’t going to stop the bully, it’s going to force him to preserve ‘face’ by responding violently. You back him into a corner & give him a single way out - violence.

Economic policies work.

Both the carrot and the stick are necessary.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:16:18pm

re: #83 Dr. Matt

Shocking. But, it’s not going to stop Trump and his deplorables from repeating this as truth for the next 4 to 20 years.

As it was meant to do.

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prairiefire  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:16:21pm

re: #69 Interesting Times

❤️Jason Kinder

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:17:22pm

re: #86 Barefoot Grin

As it was meant to do.

Why would Mediatite publish something like that?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:18:33pm

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

Why would Mediatite publish something like that?

Clicks, maybe? Got mine.

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calochortus  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:19:12pm

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹

This will be my fifth surgery. This particular operation can only be done so many times before there are diminishing returns.

They first developed before I was forty (thanks to being triggered by my epilepsy meds). When I went in for my first operation, an operating room nurse commented that I was the youngest person she ever saw having that surgery.

I’ll be headed to Cheyenne Monday for my pre-op, with surgery kicking off first thing Tuesday morning. (Might be able to say my last good-byes to y’all Monday night from the hotel the VA puts me up in [in case I don’t survive], if I can get Wifi there.)

All the best to you (and your surgeon!)

I am suitably grateful that my Dupuytren’s doesn’t really seem to be progressing much, if at all recently, nor is the similar lump on the bottom of my foot (plantar fibromatosis.) I hope it stays that way…

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:19:59pm
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calochortus  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:23:26pm

re: #85 b_sharp

That misses the point - saber rattling with a nutcase like Kim is not only ineffective but is likely to produce the opposite effect. In a rational person’s mind military might makes a difference but in today’s global economy economic influence has an even larger impact. Kim is not rational. He likely believes NK is quite able to respond to the US on an equal footing & that the US is incapable of hurting NK significantly.

Engaging a schoolyard bully with ‘my dick is bigger than yours’ isn’t going to stop the bully, it’s going to force him to preserve ‘face’ by responding violently. You back him into a corner & give him a single way out - violence.

Economic policies work.

Both the carrot and the stick are necessary.

Kim may not be quite that irrational. He doesn’t want the US, or anyone else, interfering in the sweet set up he has for himself. Countries with nuclear weapons don’t generally get interference from other countries interested in regime change. Threatening him would not lead to his backing down under those conditions. He probably isn’t actually planning to attack, but the more tensions are ratcheted up, the more likely there will be an accident. Trump needs someone to keep him away from foreign policy for a while.

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b_sharp  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:23:40pm

We just got back from a 10 day trip to Vancouver. We left our dog with the neighbours because Max just loves them. When I picked him up he acted as if he thought I was mad at him & I had to sit on the floor and give him a hug before he’d stop grovelling, poor guy. As soon as he got out the door, he damned near dragged V home, she had a hell of a time not getting pulled over by the little (not so little - 30 lbs) guy. When we went upstairs he jumped on the bed & ran in circles as fast as he could.

I think he’s happy we’re home.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:24:04pm

“Not only do I thank Mr. Putin for cutting our payroll, but ‘ha, ha; joke’s on him’ I’m making him raise his payroll by giving back the Russian compounds!”

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:28:32pm
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jaunte  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:28:37pm
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Interesting Times  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:29:25pm

re: #96 jaunte

At least the Photoshop artists have us covered:

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:30:20pm

re: #90 calochortus

All the best to you (and your surgeon!)

I am suitably grateful that my Dupuytren’s doesn’t really seem to be progressing much, if at all recently, nor is the similar lump on the bottom of my foot (plantar fibromatosis.) I hope it stays that way…

I have had huge lumps in the bottom of my feet (Lederhosen Disease) since my Dupuytren’s first kicked off. (It is the same disorder.) It actually takes quite a bit to cause trouble to your feet.

To you hands though, a different story. The VA used to withhold operating until contractures were beyond 45 degrees. Current thinking is that nodules that form on the tendons should be treated as soon as possible, because Dupuytren’s can permanently damage joints (mine are).

It most often attacks the ring finger, followed by the little finger. Currently mine is attacking both thumbs, and my left index finger (currently bent at nearly fifty degrees with the middle joint likely permanently damaged).

Risk factors (aside from northern or eastern European ancestry):

Drinking a lot of alcohol, although most people with the disease do not have alcoholism
Diabetes
Seizures, such as those seen in people with epilepsy
Smoking

From the Hypochondria Encyclopaedia, a description of the disorder, with pictures, drawings, treatments, and outcomes:

webmd.com

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:32:11pm
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stpaulbear  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:37:03pm

I just found out yesterday from a Facebook friend that my high school’s 45th reunion is tomorrow. I let her know that I hadn’t attended one since the 10th and didn’t think I was going to make this one. She sent me back a note that she’s getting together with a couple of her friends (that I knew in school too) before the reunion and I was welcome to join them. I haven’t been out for dinner for ages so I think I’m going to go. I hope it’s not a noisy bar so I can actually hear the conversation with my crappy hearing.

It’s going to be kind of funny because my Facebook friend was the closest thing my deeply closeted self had to a girlfriend in high school. I ran into her a couple years later when we were both in the pre-architecture program at the U of M just as I was getting ready to flunk out and become a full time musician.

We ran into each other one more time a few years later when, totally by coincidence, we had seats right next to each other to see ‘Waiting for Godot’ at the Guthrie Theater. She was with a date and the friend that I was with had some hash that we smoked in the car before walking to the theater. I tended to get really paranoid on drugs so it was a remarkably uncomfortable evening.

She knows I’m gay now and I get to read about her hubby and family on her Facebook page. I’m hoping this will be kind of a fun evening.

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prairiefire  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:41:39pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve got a lump on my palm, under the skin, at the bottom of my middle finger. Just realized it last week. I guess I should have my doctor look at it.
Best of luck next week!

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calochortus  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:44:50pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

Yeah, the lumpy foot is the same basic thing. Mine builds up calluses, which I scrape off, and I’ve known a couple people who have had to have surgery if the lump gets too big.

I drink in moderation
I’m not diabetic
I’ve never smoked
I’ve never had a seizure
And, oh yeah, I’m a woman, so have a lower risk.

Northern European ancestry? Yup. And my brother has a mild DC on one hand too. I think we’re going to go with genetics here…

103
Kragar  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:45:23pm
104
teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:45:57pm

re: #103 Kragar

Greatest poll of all time.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:47:49pm

Breitbart Writer Tragically Dead from Vogue Cover Featuring the Statue of Liberty (goes to Wonkette)

Vogue had a picture of Jennifer Lawrence on its September issue posing in front of the Statue of Liberty. That has Breitbart up in arms to the point one of their writers suggested that maybe Breitbart should start a conservative women’s fashion page at Breitbart.

They are insisting this is all over the flappadoodle created by the right wing over Emma Lazarus’s poem on the plinth of the statue. Vogue tried to explain to Breitbart that the covers of fashion magazines are shot months in advance (in this case in June, before said flappadoodle) but Breitbart is having none of that. It must be some sort of leftist conspiracy that a magazine based in New York City would shoot a picture of Jennifer Lawrence in front of the Statue of Liberty in New York City.

I can’t keep up with all the whinging from the right.

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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:48:11pm
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dangerman  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:49:47pm

re: #69 Interesting Times

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What ‘bout that lady ex sos who was investigated like 9 times and they’re going back for even more emails?

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calochortus  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:50:26pm

re: #101 prairiefire

I’ve got a lump on my palm, under the skin, at the bottom of my middle finger. Just realized it last week. I guess I should have my doctor look at it.
Best of luck next week!

Dupuytren’s is usually down on the palm below the ring finger, but not always. So it won’t hurt to have it checked out.
When I stretch my ring finger back a bit and stroke the palm under it, I can feel that the tendon is tight, unlike the other fingers. Fortunately, the finger is only slightly less extensible (if that’s a word…) than the other fingers so regular gentle stretching seems helpful.

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Kragar  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:51:24pm
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calochortus  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:51:30pm

re: #107 dangerman

What ‘bout that lady ex sos who was investigated like 9 times and they’re going back for even more emails?

That’s different. She must be involved in Evildoing somehow.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:52:39pm

re: #101 prairiefire

I’ve got a lump on my palm, under the skin, at the bottom of my middle finger. Just realized it last week. I guess I should have my doctor look at it.
Best of luck next week!

Yup. If it is associated with Dupuytren’s it is much easier to fix early.

re: #102 calochortus

Yeah, the lumpy foot is the same basic thing. Mine builds up calluses, which I scrape off, and I’ve known a couple people who have had to have surgery if the lump gets too big.

I drink in moderation
I’m not diabetic
I’ve never smoked
I’ve never had a seizure
And, oh yeah, I’m a woman, so have a lower risk.

Northern European ancestry? Yup. And my brother has a mild DC on one hand too. I think we’re going to go with genetics here…

Mine don’t build up calluses.

I fit all the other categories of risk factors aside from diabetes. As for drinking in moderation, I might have to cancel that for tonight since I won’t be able to after this weekend.

I’ve considered giving up smoking on the day of my surgery. Smoking not only aggrevates Dupuytren’s Contractures, it also aggravates the healing process. Since I will have gone at least two days without a cigarette when I come around after surgery (assuming I survive it, you never know), perhaps that’s a good starting point to quit.

The VA and my state both have good resources for quitting; I might as well avail myself of them. (My wife says she will quit that day as well. I hope we aren’t too crabby to each other. /s)

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:54:12pm

“…Perhaps the most disturbing interview in the movie is not with an unrepentant Nazi or a war criminal, but with the gentlemanly and highly esteemed lawyer Otto Kranzbühler. A navy judge during the war, Kranzbühler was defense counsel for Admiral Dönitz at Nuremberg, where he cut a dashing figure in his navy uniform. He later had a successful career as a corporate lawyer, after defending the likes of Alfried Krupp against accusations of having exploited slave labor. Kranzbühler never justified Nazism. But when asked by Ophuls whether he had discussed his own part in the Third Reich with his children, he replied that he had come up with a formula to make them understand: if you were ignorant of what went on, you were a fool; if you knew, but looked the other way, you were a coward; if you knew, and took part, you were a criminal. Were his children reassured? Kranzbühler: “My children didn’t recognize their father in any of the above.”

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:55:23pm

re: #85 b_sharp

That misses the point - saber rattling with a nutcase like Kim is not only ineffective but is likely to produce the opposite effect. In a rational person’s mind military might makes a difference but in today’s global economy economic influence has an even larger impact. Kim is not rational. He likely believes NK is quite able to respond to the US on an equal footing & that the US is incapable of hurting NK significantly.

Engaging a schoolyard bully with ‘my dick is bigger than yours’ isn’t going to stop the bully, it’s going to force him to preserve ‘face’ by responding violently. You back him into a corner & give him a single way out - violence.

Economic policies work.

Both the carrot and the stick are necessary.

Oh I agree. I’m just saying if it came to it, it’s not nukes or nothing. We have lots of other sticks that blow up.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:56:01pm

re: #108 calochortus

Dupuytren’s is usually down on the palm below the ring finger, but not always. So it won’t hurt to have it checked out.
When I stretch my ring finger back a bit and stroke the palm under it, I can feel that the tendon is tight, unlike the other fingers. Fortunately, the finger is only slightly less extensible (if that’s a word…) than the other fingers so regular gentle stretching seems helpful.

If the problem is Dupuytren’s, stretching fingers will not help. (Stretching can actually accelerate the growth of the bands, causing the disorder to develop more rapidly.) Stretching after bands have developed can damage the joints or tendons (or even break a finger).

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calochortus  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:56:03pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

I hope you and your wife will be able to give up smoking. I want you both to live long and healthy lives. And besides, the money you save can go into new windshields for your car if there is actually an increase in hail in your area.

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plansbandc  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:56:48pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

When I saw the Statue of Liberty in person the first time, I cried. How has it possibly become OK to attack her?

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calochortus  Aug 10, 2017 • 7:59:45pm

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹

If the problem is Dupuytren’s, stretching fingers will not help. (Stretching can actually accelerate the growth of the bands, causing the disorder to develop more rapidly.) Stretching after bands have developed can damage the joints or tendons (or even break a finger).

It may just be that it isn’t progressing much, but I was told gentle stretches were a fine thing. The amount of pressure I use couldn’t possibly break anything.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:00:13pm

I drink in moderation:

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:03:03pm

YouTube comment:

Someone should switch out the launch codes for Trump and substitute 867-5309

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Amory Blaine  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:06:36pm
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MsJ  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:07:48pm

re: #57 danarchy

I think this may be a bit of wishful thinking on your part. If he is a good software engineer there will be lots of bros in management in the software industry who will count that memo as a plus.

Uber will take him in a second. Might even make CEO. They love assholes there.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:08:50pm

re: #24 The Vicious Babushka

This is what I am doing to calm myself

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They look sooooooo gooooood. I just got some Kona Peaberry coffee that would go with those masterpieces!

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:09:27pm

re: #116 plansbandc

When I saw the Statue of Liberty in person the first time, I cried. How has it possibly become OK to attack her?

It has been fashionable in conservatism all my life to attack immigrants and immigration.

Since a great portion of the world views the statue as the symbol of the welcoming nature of our country, it was inevitable that the statue would come under attack. (Emma Lazarus being Jewish is a bonus.)

I did not cry when I saw the statue (I did visit New York once on government business) but that view filled me with pride in my nation. We have done a lot of bad things (Jim Crow, unnecessary warfare, &c), but we have upheld some of the best ideas in freedom and politics ever produced to date.

There are plenty of people who view those positives as horrible, and as I noted above, it was only a matter of time the statue itself would come under attack (it is a symbol and conservatives love symbols).

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:10:18pm

1903 description of reporters in “the holladay case”. Burton e Stevenson

besides, I knew that they were gentlemen, that they labored early and late at meager salaries, for the pure love of the work; that they were quick to scent fraud or trickery or unworthiness, and inexorable in exposing them; that they loved to do good anonymously, remaining utterly unknown save to the appreciative few behind the scenes

Good times

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b_sharp  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:14:25pm

So. Do I go back to Twitter or just say fuckit & continue to ignore it?

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MsJ  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:14:42pm

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

Why would Mediatite publish something like that?

Mediaite is a Dan Abrams outfit. I saw the original story at his law blog (LawNewz or some such thing) so I’m sure it’s making the rounds on all his sites (and there are a bunch). I’ll bet it makes it up to GossipCop because… Whatever.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:14:42pm

re: #116 plansbandc

By the way, I clicked on your avatar. Kewl.

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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:16:49pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

W’s presidency, with its lying us into war and torture advocacy was a harbinger of what we’re seeing today but still at the end of the day orders of magnitude more professional.

IMO one huge difference between W’s administration and the Klown Kabal is that the former would lie and make ridiculous arguments/interpretations in order to get their bullshit to appear to conform to the law - because they felt that the rule of law was important enough that they had to at least APPEAR to be within the law. The Klown Kabal gives no shits about your lame libtard “rule of law” whatever that even is you wimpy triggered snowflake!

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:21:33pm

re: #128 Jebediah, RBG

You identified a great distinction. It’s scary to think about all that it portends.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:23:13pm

re: #128 Jebediah, RBG

IMO one huge difference between W’s administration and the Klown Kabal is that the former would lie and make ridiculous arguments/interpretations in order to get their bullshit to appear to conform to the law - because they felt that the rule of law was important enough that they had to at least APPEAR to be within the law. The Klown Kabal gives no shits about your lame libtard “rule of law” whatever that even is you wimpy triggered snowflake!

A good example of this is that the W Bush crew went through the motions of making an international case for the Iraq war. It was all a pack of lies of course, so I dismissed it as such at the time. But now I appreciate it more. Civilization is good enough that even pretending to be civilized helps.

tr*mp is likely to nuke North Korea for personal entertainment without even bothering to plausibly lie about his motives.

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prairiefire  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:23:20pm

re: #125 b_sharp

So. Do I go back to Twitter or just say fuckit & continue to ignore it?

Ignore it.

132
MsJ  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:27:05pm

re: #95 JordanRules

Funny, I don’t discuss politics at work (except with one guy and we do that over text messages outside of any work communication). I don’t tell guys they suck because they’re guys and written could do it better because it’s inappropriate. Why should ANY of that be part of “open communication” in a work setting? Simple: it’s not. Don’t discuss religion, abortion or politics with co-workers at work. Period. Discuss it with friends (who might be co-workers) away from work. Why is this so difficult?

133
jaunte  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:27:08pm
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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:28:09pm

Breitbart women’s fashion page might be too racy for conservatives. Might cause tinglies in the naughty bits.

Image: 823a38c0c592175187a6219912f1231b6f8f9bde6564d34654859713ba441996.jpg

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:31:45pm

Doggo is impressed!

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:38:17pm

re: #132 MsJ

Every time I’ve seen it happen, and this isn’t to say I haven’t joined in a time or two (but never started it), it always seemed to start from a person who just HAD to make their opinion known. Had to. Wanted to see if others got offended or gave them MAGA high fives.

These are folks that can’t imagine constraints on their speech or behavior because they see it as the standard for society and they need to constantly reaffirm that. They always need to flex their soft power in these settings. They see no risk to it.

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austin_blue  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:39:07pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

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If you go visit a corpse flower, rub some Vicks Vape-o-rub under your nostrils. I encountered one a couple/three years ago in Houston and it was…overwhelming.

And I’ve eaten Durians. And enjoyed them.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:41:49pm

re: #91 JordanRules

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:44:12pm

re: #125 b_sharp

So. Do I go back to Twitter or just say fuckit & continue to ignore it?

Ignore it.

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:45:26pm

re: #136 JordanRules

Every time I’ve seen it happen, and this isn’t to say I haven’t joined in a time or two (but never started it), it always seemed to start from a person who just HAD to make their opinion known. Had to. Wanted to see if others got offended or gave them MAGA high fives.

These are folks that can’t imagine constraints on their speech or behavior because they see it as the standard for society and they need to constantly reaffirm that. They always need to flex their soft power in these settings. They see no risk to it.

Their truth is the truth and how can you suppress that?

141
teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:45:48pm

re: #125 b_sharp

So. Do I go back to Twitter or just say fuckit & continue to ignore it?

Go back! You know you want to!

Giphy

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:46:20pm
143
Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:47:22pm

re: #125 b_sharp

So. Do I go back to Twitter or just say fuckit & continue to ignore it?

You know you love it……

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:47:49pm
145
austin_blue  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:48:23pm

re: #116 plansbandc

When I saw the Statue of Liberty in person the first time, I cried. How has it possibly become OK to attack her?

French.

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Anymouse the Hypocrite 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:49:41pm

Well, after the Breitbart moran was outed as a moran by Vogue Magazine on his own Twitter feed, he immediately switched to “I was joking to trigger liberals.”

He is being pilloried.

147
goddamnedfrank  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:49:45pm

re: #138 Ace-o-aces

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austin_blue  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:52:22pm

re: #147 goddamnedfrank

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Bloodthirsty usurers.

What, we have fallen behind on paying for our wars against the Dutch? Pogrom time!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:52:27pm

The Cold War led to some exceedingly strange, not to mention frightening, proposals for the use of nuclear weapons.

How about a delayed action bomb powered by live chickens?

Blue Peacock was a 1950s British proposal to bury 10 kiloton nukes around the North German plain then detonate them among invading Soviets. This could be done by wire, an anti-tampering device, or an 8 day timer. There was a problem though, especially during chilly German winters:

One technical problem was that during winter buried objects can get very cold, and it was possible the mine’s electronics would get too cold to work after some days underground. Various methods to get around this were studied, such as wrapping the bombs in insulating blankets. One particularly remarkable proposal suggested that live chickens be included in the mechanism. The chickens would be sealed inside the casing, with a supply of food and water; they would remain alive for a week or so. Their body heat would, it seems, have been sufficient to keep the mine’s components at a working temperature. This proposal was sufficiently outlandish that it was taken as an April Fool’s Day joke when the Blue Peacock file was declassified on 1 April 2004. Tom O’Leary, head of education and interpretation at the National Archives, replied to the media that, “It does seem like an April Fool but it most certainly is not. The Civil Service does not do jokes.”

150
Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:56:07pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

Best of wishes on your surgery!

151
Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:57:24pm

re: #149 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

“It does seem like an April Fool but it most certainly is not. The Civil Service does not do jokes.”

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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2017 • 8:58:01pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:01:15pm
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Kragar  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:01:17pm
155
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:02:41pm

re: #151 Decatur Deb

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BBC did what is widely considered the greatest April Fool joke of all time:
Spaghetti-tree hoax

BBC: Spaghetti-Harvest in Ticino

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:15:56pm

re: #112 jaunte

…. Kranzbühler never justified Nazism. But when asked by Ophuls whether he had discussed his own part in the Third Reich with his children, he replied that he had come up with a formula to make them understand: if you were ignorant of what went on, you were a fool; if you knew, but looked the other way, you were a coward; if you knew, and took part, you were a criminal. Were his children reassured? Kranzbühler: “My children didn’t recognize their father in any of the above.

Too many Americans seem to think that they would have been the ones to notice the rise of fascism and done something to stop it. But most non-Trumpsters I know fall into 4 categories
1. express total lack of interest in politics
2. don’t want to offend family or friends
3. say they don’t want to be depressed so avoid news
4. would rather spend time engaged in activities they enjoy and not be involved in the difficult task of working against this regime.

They aren’t paying attention or think they won’t be affected. Hopefully there are enough others in the active resistance to make a difference.

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:15:59pm

The clown’s out front doing his crazy thing. The world is at risk because of it. Our democracy has already lost a lot because of it.

The crazy party and money guys are in the back pushing thru ugly shit all over the country.

It can be hard to grasp it all. It’s really bad. We’ve got a fight ahead of us.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:16:02pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Some interesting trivia from the wikipedia article:
The spaghetti harvest hoax was made for a budget of £100.
Cameraman Charles de Jaeger (who actually originated the idea) passed on in 2000 and narrator Richard Dimbleby in 1965.
Producer Michael Peacock is still with us today at age 87.

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austin_blue  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:17:04pm

re: #149 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The Cold War led to some exceedingly strange, not to mention frightening, proposals for the use of nuclear weapons.

How about a delayed action bomb powered by live chickens?

Blue Peacock was a 1950s British proposal to bury 10 kiloton nukes around the North German plain then detonate them among invading Soviets. This could be done by wire, an anti-tampering device, or an 8 day timer. There was a problem though, especially during chilly German winters:

The problem of how to defend the Fulda Gap in West Germany was big on the minds of tacticians from the 50’s to the 70’s. A coworker in the 2010’s who was in a scout unit back in the day said that in the late 70’s the Army decided to to defend it with “pissed off, underpaid black troopers, at night”. I asked him if he was serious. His reply? “Pretty much. Along with a shitpot of enfilading artillery.”

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:18:56pm

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

Yup! You nailed all the categories that account for a lot of what I’ve observed in folks across the spectrum.
And we know how bad our voter turnout always is in this teenaged democracy.

161
Jebediah, RBG  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:19:44pm

re: #93 b_sharp

So sweet!

162
Interesting Times  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:21:01pm

re: #160 JordanRules

Yup! You nailed all the categories that account for a lot of what I’ve observed in folks across the spectrum.
And we know how bad our voter turnout always is in this teenaged democracy.

What would be bad enough to shock these apathetic types into concrete, useful action but not so bad it causes permanent damage to America/the world?

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JordanRules  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:21:59pm

re: #162 Interesting Times

I ask myself that all the time. I really do.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:28:11pm

re: #162 Interesting Times

What would be bad enough to shock these apathetic types into concrete, useful action but not so bad it causes permanent damage to America/the world?

A Nueremberg Law excluding AA players from highschool/college football leagues.

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:33:55pm

re: #159 austin_blue

The problem of how to defend the Fulda Gap in West Germany was big on the minds of tacticians from the 50’s to the 70’s. A coworker in the 2010’s who was in a scout unit back in the day said that in the late 70’s the Army decided to to defend it with “pissed off, underpaid black troopers, at night”. I asked him if he was serious. His reply? “Pretty much. Along with a shitpot of enfilading artillery.”

I was South and a bit east of Fulda, near the Czech border in 83-84 in a M-60A3 unit. We were told to kill 5 Russian tanks before we died as that would hopefully slow them down enough for REFORGER to kick in. What we didn’t get told was that the APDS rounds we had couldn’t penetrate the turret or glacius plate of the T-72s we faced or that the upgrade APFSDS rounds might but only if they didn’t fall apart in the barrel as 70+% of them did.

Of course they didn’t come across the gap because the REFORGER exercises convinced them that we could fly in many more troops much faster than we really could.

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:36:26pm

re: #164 Decatur Deb

A Nueremberg Law excluding AA players from highschool/college football leagues.

They’d pretend only those with “criminal” records were banned and say it was their own fault for messing up fall Saturday Afternoons​.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:39:39pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

Fella, please take care. Hoping everything will go OK for you!

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BeachDem  Aug 10, 2017 • 9:55:30pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Sometimes reaching out can actually work.

[Embedded content]

To cheer you (and yes, that was a nice exchange), HuffPos main:

WHAT THE HEIL TOOK SO LONG

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Aug 11, 2017 • 12:05:00am

Hmm, so Bannon was involved in World of Warcraft, eh?


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Heavy Metal Singer Stops Concert to Defend Woman From Sexual Assault Women shouldn’t have to worry about choosing between enjoying music at concerts and protecting their bodies from assault — but at a concert Friday night in the Netherlands, the band playing on stage realized that’s exactly what was happening. ...
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How Sigmund Freud Tried to Break and Remake His Fiancée The area in which Martha most urgently needed reeducation, Freud believed, was that of excessive regard for her own family. He had coveted its name before their engagement, but now the very illustriousness of Martha’s connections prompted a worry ...
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Ten Sailors Missing After U.S. Warship, Tanker Collide Near Singapore SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Ten sailors are missing after a U.S. warship collided with an oil tanker east of Singapore before dawn on Monday, tearing a hole beneath the waterline and flooding compartments that include a crew sleeping area, the ...
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Why You Can’t Take a Flag to a National Cemetery Why You Can't Take a Flag to Arlington (or other national veteran cemeteries) Stars and Stripes, reprinting with permission an article from the Washington Post, explains why you cannot take a flag to Arlington National Cemetery (or any other ...
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Another Democrat Starting Trump Impeachment Process Come on guys, get behind the bill. All of us. we should get behind this bill as it emerges as fast as we attacked the BCA. Following Donald Trump’s equivocating of white supremacists and those who oppose them in ...
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How Militias Became the Private Police for White Supremacists Magazine Guns to a protest? Clubs? We can not tolerate anti American militias. The bloody weekend in Charlottesville that began with several hundred chanting white supremacists on a torch-lit march will long be remembered for the searing image of a ...
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Starting in 2018, Police Dogs Injured in the Line of Duty Can Be Transported by EMS to Veterinary Clinics ST. CLAIR COUNTY, IL – Ambulances are for people. It’s always been the law of the land. In Illinois, it'll soon be "almost always". Illinois Governor, Bruce Rauner, signed House Bill 2661, Tuesday. It will allow police dogs to ...
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