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Kragar  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:02:34pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:04:23pm

Law Enforcement leaves a crazy bigot loose after he intentionally severely injures someone with his car, so that he’s free to kill.

After a killing driven by hate, family wonders ‘How many red flags does it take?’

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:05:38pm

Hey remember when hen Trump claimed to be pro LGBT? That was a good joke.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:05:56pm

“I’m starting to think that hat is covering up a massive head wound.”

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:07:04pm

What kind of conservative nutbag politician has no opinion about DACA?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:08:53pm

re: #5 jaunte

What kind of conservative nutbag politician has no opinion about DACA?

One undecided whether they need to be “saved” or if they’re demonic.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:10:31pm

re: #1 Kragar

I’m not trans, but this just seems to be looking for a way to be offended:

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:11:21pm

I’ve known a thousand aw shucks redneck grifters like Moore. They’ve been played for laughs for a hundred years, but they are not really funny. They are dangerous and inhumanly cruel. They should have no place in the 21st century, it is time to take them seriously.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:11:26pm

re: #7 Belafon

I’m not trans, but this just seems to be looking for a way to be offended:

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Yeah seems tame to me.

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:11:39pm

Any clue who Tim is talking about?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:12:28pm

re: #7 Belafon

I’m not trans, but this just seems to be looking for a way to be offended:

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It is, but I didn’t make the joke here, because I thought people would probably be offended.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:13:18pm

re: #10 Kragar

Any clue who Tim is talking about?

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If there is, it’s not you Tim.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:13:47pm

re: #11 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It is, but I didn’t make the joke here, because I thought people would probably be offended.

Nah I think it’s a clever word play.

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:14:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:15:25pm

re: #14 Kragar

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Great champion for free speech.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:15:41pm

re: #10 Kragar

Any clue who Tim is talking about?

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:15:48pm

re: #10 Kragar

Any clue who Tim is talking about?

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His character. He’s claiming that his show was canceled because his character would have made conservatives look good and Hollywood can’t have that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:16:04pm

Congrats Florida: Rick Scott Taps 29 YO Travel Aide as New Director of Hurricanes (Goes to Wonkette)

Continuing to prove government doesn’t work, conservatives put people in to ensure that:

So it’s funny — funny weird, not funny Wonkette — that Rick Scott’s director of Emergency Management has chosen now to take an opportunity in the private sector. And that his replacement as director of Emergency Management is a 29-year-old former campaign travel aide, who has more than a year’s experience as the last director’s chief of staff. What else has young master Wes Maul got on the old CV?

According to Maul’s application with the state, while he was in law school he worked for three years at Barbri Inc. as a “student rep for a review course,” spent six months doing legal writing and electronic discovery in UF’s Office of General Counsel and worked for three months as a “summer associate” at Mezzanine Fund. He does not have any prior emergency management experience. Maul’s LinkedIn page also shows he worked for one year at Mattress Town of Gainesville before graduating from law school.

No International Arabian Horse Association? Is that even LEGAL?

Barbri is a law school, entangled in a $50M anti-trust lawsuit.

Mattress Town, while it may be a good business, hardly qualifies one for a state-level government post. Mezzanine Fund (for which he worked as an associate for three months), is a fund that specialises in mezzanine loans for capital.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:16:35pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

If there is, it’s not you Tim.

On October 2, 1978, Tim Allen was arrested in the Kalamazoo-Battle Creek International Airport for possession of over 650 grams (1.4 lb) of cocaine. He subsequently pleaded guilty to drug trafficking, and provided the names of other dealers in exchange for a sentence of three to seven years, instead of possible life imprisonment. He was paroled on June 12, 1981 after serving 2 years and 4 months in the Federal Correctional Institution in Sandstone, Minnesota.

Conservative hero in Hollywood!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:17:28pm

re: #17 Belafon

His character. He’s claiming that his show was canceled because his character would have made conservatives look good and Hollywood can’t have that.

He whines so much for someone who has done well. But FNC won’t call him entitled because he’s a conservative.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:19:31pm

re: #10 Kragar

Any clue who Tim is talking about?

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It sure isn’t Mr. Convicted Coke Dealer!

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:19:52pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

He whines so much for someone who has done well. But FNC won’t call him entitled because he’s a conservative.

He got a second chance from the US government. He’s done pretty well for himself, but he obviously didn’t do it alone. Hollywood kind of helped.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:20:29pm

re: #17 Belafon

His character. He’s claiming that his show was canceled because his character would have made conservatives look good and Hollywood can’t have that.

But he also says the character was like Archie Bunker, who had some positive qualities, but was more of an asshole than likable. The show poked fun at Conservatives.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:21:15pm

re: #22 Belafon

He got a second chance from the US government. He’s done pretty well for himself, but he obviously didn’t do it alone. Hollywood kind of helped.

No kidding.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:21:35pm

Reading through the article, he claims he’s just trying to be like Archie Bunker. But I think he misses that Archie was a mirror on conservatives.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:21:54pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

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Conservative hero in Hollywood!

A coke dealer, and a rat. I’m surprised he’s still around to whine.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:23:11pm

re: #2 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Law Enforcement leaves a crazy bigot loose after he intentionally severely injures someone with his car, so that he’s free to kill.

After a killing driven by hate, family wonders ‘How many red flags does it take?’

Yup. Amongst other reasons my wife and I abandoned Oklahoma.

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:24:33pm

So watching the local news tonight, there was a story about a school librarian in Cambridge returning a book donation from Melania.

They were asking about whether it was an insult to her, I don’t really care about that, but in her letter she also said:

“So, my school doesn’t have a NEED for these books,” she wrote. “And then there’s the matter of the books themselves. You may not be aware of this, but Dr. Seuss is a bit of a cliché, a tired and worn ambassador for children’s literature.”

Dissing Dr. Seuss is just wrong…

patch.com

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:25:13pm

This is actually pretty funny: Patricia Richardson, Tim Allen’s wife on Home Improvement, played a neighbor on Last Man Standing that ran her power tools all the time. I went to go look up what she has been doing and saw that.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:25:34pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹

Yup. Amongst other reasons my wife and I abandoned Oklahoma.

Maybe, just maybe, we should put the criminally insane into institutions, instead of arming them so they can murder their neighbors.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:26:27pm

re: #29 danarchy

So watching the local news tonight, there was a story about a school librarian in Cambridge returning a book donation from Melania.

They were asking about whether it was an insult to her, I don’t really care about that, but in her letter she also said:

Dissing Dr. Seuss is just wrong…

patch.com

Doctor Seuss will be read for a long time.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:27:01pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:28:12pm

re: #31 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Maybe, just maybe, we should put the criminally insane into institutions, instead of arming them so they can murder their neighbors.

Reaganomics. Tax cuts.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:33:05pm

Between Seth, Keith, Samantha and others, they really take it to Trump.

But sometimes it is sad too because Trump goes on…as crazy and dangerous as depicted. You want to laugh but there is nothing really, to laugh about.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:33:21pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:34:09pm

Raising Arizona (5/5) Movie CLIP - Child Abandonment (1987) HD

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:38:58pm

re: #29 danarchy

So watching the local news tonight, there was a story about a school librarian in Cambridge returning a book donation from Melania.

They were asking about whether it was an insult to her, I don’t really care about that, but in her letter she also said:

Dissing Dr. Seuss is just wrong…

patch.com

It gets worse. Full letter here.

Another fact that many people are unaware of is that Dr. Seuss’s illustrations are steeped in racist propaganda, caricatures, and harmful stereotypes. Open one of his books (If I Ran a Zoo or And to Think That I Saw It On Mulberry Street, for example), and you’ll see the racist mockery in his art. Grace Hwang Lynch’s School Library Journal article, “Is the Cat in the Hat Racist? Read Across America Shifts Away from Dr. Seuss and Toward Diverse Books,” reports on Katie Ishizuka’s work analyzing the minstrel characteristics and trope nature of Seuss’s characters. Scholar Philip Nel’s new book, Was the Cat in the Hat Black? The Hidden Racism of Children’s Literature, and the Need for Diverse Books, further explores and shines a spotlight on the systemic racism and oppression in education and literature.
I am honored that you recognized my students and our school. I can think of no better gift for children than books; it was a wonderful gesture, if one that could have been better thought out.

It was a wonderful gesture but it was steeped in evil hidden racism? Look, I’m somebody who has no trouble believing that many zombie movies are racist, but this is off the wall. This person is……confused.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:39:12pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹

Reaganomics. Tax cuts.

The poor can become go, go Reaganauts, and they’ll all become wealthy from collecting the pee trickling down and selling it as fertilizer.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:39:44pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Great champion for free speech.

Hugh Hefner, Bob Guccione and Larry Flynt were constant pains in the asses of stodgy American thinking. They all played the laws and Constitution on the politicians and pretty much beat them up.

(I didn’t know if I should add Guccione, as he was different in my opinion. But he falls into the same area and time frame)

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ipsos  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:42:22pm

In re Hefner:

His daughter Christie is a pretty awesome person. She and I went to college together (well, she graduated 18 years before I did!), and she subsequently served on the board and did lots of good things for the place, as well as for a lot of very righteous causes. I’m very sorry for her loss tonight.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:43:46pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It gets worse. Full letter here.

It was a wonderful gesture but it was steeped in evil hidden racism? Look, I’m somebody who has no trouble believing that many zombie movies are racist, but this is off the wall. This person is……confused.

The left is as batshit, and eager to attack anyone who isn’t pure, as the right. The difference being that the left attacks with reason and calls for compassion, and the right attacks with guns an calls for eliminationism.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:46:51pm

re: #42 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The left is as batshit, and eager to attack anyone who isn’t pure, as the right. The difference being that the left attacks with reason and calls for compassion, and the right attacks with guns an calls for eliminationism.

Tribes.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:49:23pm

re: #41 ipsos

In re Hefner:

His daughter Christie is a pretty awesome person. She and I went to college together (well, she graduated 18 years before I did!), and she subsequently served on the board and did lots of good things for the place, as well as for a lot of very righteous causes. I’m very sorry for her loss tonight.

I wanted to express the same, but can’t find her on Twitter. Her dad let a very full life, but that doesn’t reduce the feeling of terrible loss.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:50:47pm

Southwest Airlines forcibly removes woman with dog allergy from flight.

They allowed the dogs to stay.

bbc.com (with video)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:50:47pm

Christian nationalism can no longer be ignored. Roy Moore’s win proves it.

“We have to return the knowledge of God and the Constitution of the United States to the United States Congress.”

When former judge Roy Moore bounded onto stage Tuesday night to declare victory in the Alabama Republican primary, he was quick to offer his own explanation for his resounding nine-point win.

“There’s one you don’t see up here [on stage], and let me just tell you, He’s done more for my campaign than anybody — and that’s almighty God,” Moore said to a raucous crowd. He then quoted a passage from Isaiah 40 before declaring: “We have to return the knowledge of God and the Constitution of the United States to the United States Congress.”

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:52:05pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I checked out the article cited.

slj.com

Doesn’t sound all batshit to me. It’s at least worthy of discussion.

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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:52:21pm

re: #29 danarchy

So watching the local news tonight, there was a story about a school librarian in Cambridge returning a book donation from Melania.

They were asking about whether it was an insult to her, I don’t really care about that, but in her letter she also said:

Dissing Dr. Seuss is just wrong…

patch.com

Back when the story about the books was first out, what struck me as odd was that she was donating books to high achieving schools rather than needy schools, and that the books she chose were way below the grade levels of the schools—i.e. the Dr. Seuss titles were recommended for pre-school kids.

Can’t find the article right now, but that is my recollection.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:52:52pm

Yikes!

Facebook Post

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:53:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:53:47pm

This is admittedly a bit pedantic but it’s also one of my pet peeves, misusing language to put a dark meaning where it’s obviously not intended.

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:54:35pm
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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:55:12pm

Is it just my imagination or does Melania’s signature look an awful lot like Donnie’s on all those EO’s?

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:55:49pm

re: #53 danarchy

Whoa. Totally does.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 8:56:20pm

re: #53 danarchy

Is it just my imagination or does Melania’s signature look an awful lot like Donnie’s on all those EO’s?

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I cannot.  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:00:11pm

re: #53 danarchy

Holy shit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:02:21pm

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Christian nationalism can no longer be ignored. Roy Moore’s win proves it.

Too many of us are morons. Anyone who made it through a civics class would know that theocracy would be the end for America, but the rubes really want to dumb us down to their level.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:07:17pm

My mother is proud to have a rejection letter from Playboy for a cartoon she submitted. The letter was signed by Hugh Hefner himself. (Playboy pays near the top of rates for cartoons and word-rates for articles.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:09:43pm

re: #52 Kragar

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Kneeling during the National Anthem: Not a violation of Title 36.
Wearing the flag as clothing: Violation of Title 36.

If wingnuts ever did pass some sort of law or amendment prohibiting using the ensign in ways contrary to the Flag Code, that would be the end of horrendous clothing like that, throwaway dinnerware emblazoned with flags, &c.

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:10:02pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

And from that good compensation, good content followed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:12:30pm

re: #60 JordanRules

And from that good compensation, good content followed.

While Playboy is often the butt of jokes (I only subscribe for the articles, &c), the fact remains that the magazine has superb fiction, well-researched news or society articles, &c.

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:13:30pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹

Barbri is a law school, entangled in a $50M anti-trust lawsuit.

Just to be clear, BARBRI is a prep course for a state bar exam, it is not a law school. When I took the Texas bar, way back in the 1980s, we had a week of classes from one company that only prepared you for the 6 hour multiple-choice Multistate Bar Exam* (which was the first day of the three-day bar). BARBRI came right after that, a month of lectures through June, on all the topics that would be covered on the state bar (six hours of essays on subjects such as torts and contracts and three hours of essays on criminal and civil procedure). More than a few of my law school profs supplemented their income by lecturing for BARBRI.

And that is all I want to remember about that awful, horrible summer that almost turned me into an alcoholic. Oh, and I did pass the first time around.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:16:37pm

The Economist print edition has one obituary page a week in the magazine. Since there are so many people on the planet and The Economist has worldwide reach, I imagine it is difficult for the editor to pick which person will be profiled.

I suspect my next print edition in the mail (yes, we still use things like “print” and “mail” around here) will be an obituary for Hugh Hefner.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:19:16pm

re: #62 mmmirele

Just to be clear, BARBRI is a prep course for a state bar exam, it is not a law school. When I took the Texas bar, way back in the 1980s, we had a week of classes from one company that only prepared you for the 6 hour multiple-choice Multistate Bar Exam* (which was the first day of the three-day bar). BARBRI came right after that, a month of lectures through June, on all the topics that would be covered on the state bar (six hours of essays on subjects such as torts and contracts and three hours of essays on criminal and civil procedure). More than a few of my law school profs supplemented their income by lecturing for BARBRI.

And that is all I want to remember about that awful, horrible summer that almost turned me into an alcoholic. Oh, and I did pass the first time around.

Barbri and 11 Law Schools Get Hit with a $50 Million Antitrust Lawsuit

I stand corrected, it is a preparatory course.

BARBRI, the bar exam prep course behemoth, is no stranger to antitrust litigation. It settled one case in 2013 for $9.5 million and another case in 2007 for $49 million.

And now BARBRI has a new antitrust case on its hands, as reported by the WSJ Law Blog:

The nation’s largest bar exam-prep company is facing allegations that it elbowed a smaller rival out of the market, capitalizing on special relationships with law schools that it had nurtured with donations and gifts.

(more at Above the Law)

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:22:30pm

I’ll be honest, I’m not much of a fan of the pictures in Playboy. However, there is this:

In the summer of 1964, civil rights workers James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Mickey Schwerner disappeared in Mississippi. And they couldn’t be found. The assumption (true) was that they were dead. Comedian Dick Gregory got an idea:

I told Farmer, “Jim I’ve got the wildest idea.” He said, ” What?” I said, “You know, the only way we’re gonna get it out is with large sums of money. If you’ll put up $100,000, we’ll break this case in one week.”

The comedian wasn’t able to get the full $100,000 but he was able to get $25,000 thanks to a phone call to Hugh Hefner. “Hefner understood what those rednecks didn’t: that things had changed,” he told British GQ in 2011. That you could no longer argue that you’d ‘killed three Jews’. Or ‘killed three blacks’. What you’d done was, you’d killed three fellow human beings.”

stillcrew.com

And yes, this helped to break the case wide open. After 44 days, the bodies of Goodman, Chaney and Schwerner were found. If you read the article, you’ll find that the FBI was worse than no help at all, and there were lots of rumors going around that the three had run off to Cuba or worse. Finding the bodies allowed the reality of what happened to sink in.

So thank you and Rest In Power, Hugh Hefner.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:25:51pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:28:19pm
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wheat-dogg  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:28:50pm

re: #65 mmmirele

I’ll be honest, I’m not much of a fan of the pictures in Playboy. However, there is this:

In the summer of 1964, civil rights workers James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Mickey Schwerner disappeared in Mississippi. And they couldn’t be found. The assumption (true) was that they were dead. Comedian Dick Gregory got an idea:

stillcrew.com

And yes, this helped to break the case wide open. After 44 days, the bodies of Goodman, Chaney and Schwerner were found. If you read the article, you’ll find that the FBI was worse than no help at all, and there were lots of rumors going around that the three had run off to Cuba or worse. Finding the bodies allowed the reality of what happened to sink in.

So thank you and Rest In Power, Hugh Hefner.

J. Edgar Hoover was in charge then, and he believed anything contrary to the status quo was a Communist plot. After watching the Ken Burns Vietnam documentary, I figured it was Hoover telling Johnson and Nixon that all those anti-war protests were funded by the Commies.

Now, we have Russians actually screwing around with our elections, and no one in Washington seems especially incensed. How times have changed.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:30:11pm

“With an opening like that, I think your mentor is Alex Jones!” says one commenter. I tend to agree. Sad that it has come to this: It hasn’t been all that many years since Todd was chair of the Lubbock County Democratic Party.

Facebook Post

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:32:49pm

I think FIS should at least *try* this once. I bet Lindsey would place in the top third in a Downhill ski race.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:35:50pm

re: #65 mmmirele

I’ll be honest, I’m not much of a fan of the pictures in Playboy. However, there is this:

In the summer of 1964, civil rights workers James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Mickey Schwerner disappeared in Mississippi. And they couldn’t be found. The assumption (true) was that they were dead. Comedian Dick Gregory got an idea:

(rest cut)

I’ve occasionally read articles from Playboy … though I did not know Mr. Hefner was instrumental (with his donation) in cracking that case. Mr. Hefner really did care about civil rights his whole life.

As for the photography, he has also used that to occasionally make social or political statements. In a recent issue of Playboy he did a photospread of “The Women of YouTube,” which included atheist vlogger Jaclyn Glenn (she insisted on lingerie only).

Wingnut Christian blogs went ballistic when Jaclyn Glenn was featured in the magazine, and many folk on those blogs made up all sorts of slanderous crap about her.

Playboy also did a spread entitled “The Women of Mensa.” (In that spread, they did not include the porn star who is a member of Mensa; the women included were non-celebrity members.)

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:36:07pm

re: #53 danarchy

Is it just my imagination or does Melania’s signature look an awful lot like Donnie’s on all those EO’s?

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She was groomed.

That’s why it’s hard to respect her.

But I applaud her struggle & was especially proud when she was in & continued the WH veggie garden.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:37:18pm

re: #68 wheat-dogg

J. Edgar Hoover was in charge then, and he believed anything contrary to the status quo was a Communist plot. After watching the Ken Burns Vietnam documentary, I figured it was Hoover telling Johnson and Nixon that all those anti-war protests were funded by the Commies.

Now, we have Russians actually screwing around with our elections, and no one conservatives in Washington seems especially incensed. How times have changed.

(fixed)

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:37:59pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

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I think FIS should at least *try* this once. I bet Lindsey would place in the top third in a Downhill ski race.

Don’t men and women generally ski the same runs at competitions just at different times? Wouldn’t it be easy enough to check her past times on similar runs against the guys and get a sense of how she would do?

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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:39:36pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The single most unpatriotic act any American can do is support Donald J. Trump.

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:40:40pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

She was groomed.

That’s why it’s hard to respect her.

But I applaud her struggle & was especially proud when she was in & continued the WH veggie garden.

I’d be interested to see her signature before Trump to see if and how much it as changed.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:41:29pm

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹

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Maybe you’re right, but the Democratic response has been too measured to suit me. I appreciate the dogged efforts of Dems on the various committees to get the bottom of this mess, but what I really want is someone getting fiery mad and calling out Trump and his minions for the traitors they are. Olbermann is pretty fiery, but his reach is sadly still too small.

OTOH there could be a lot of stuff going on behind closed doors that may yield the same results. Mueller’s probe, f’r’instance. I bet the IRS gave him a lot of juicy documents.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:42:14pm

re: #74 danarchy

Don’t men and women generally ski the same runs at competitions just at different times?

Not exactly. Yes, they run races on the same slopes, but every course is different, and men’s and women’s starting gates are never the same (women’s starting gates are usually a little ways downhill from the men’s).

Wouldn’t it be easy enough to check her past times on similar runs against the guys and get a sense of how she would do?

Since in practice men and women never ski the same courses this is impossible.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:42:29pm

re: #76 danarchy

I’d be interested to see her signature before Trump to see if and how much it as changed.

I am pretty sure it was Trump who signed it for her. It’s his seismographic script.

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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:43:04pm

re: #68 wheat-dogg
The anti -Vietnam war protesters were funded by George Soros’ uncle.

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:48:51pm

re: #79 wheat-dogg

I am pretty sure it was Trump who signed it for her. It’s his seismographic script.

Don’t think so. Here she is signing a wall

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:50:02pm

re: #76 danarchy

I’d be interested to see her signature before Trump to see if and how much it as changed.

A graphologist noted back in May the signatures were amazingly similar. She also noted it is extremely rare for couples to adopt each other’s handwriting styles.

yahoo.com

(article includes photo of a note sent to Pamela Anderson)

She gives the opinion that perhaps the Trump Organisation brought someone in to teach her Donald Trump’s handwriting style.

But she gets this entirely wrong if that’s the case:

“The first [letter], where it goes up into a point, that’s pretty sharp and direct and gets right to it. The downstrokes — those two lines in her last name — those are very sharp,” Kurtz said. She added that sharp, straight lines indicate that a person is “a sharp thinker, a fast thinker, and picks up information quickly.”

Kurtz’s take on POTUS has long been that he’s “very analytical and sharp. He’s blunt — the obvious is all there.”

It’s obvious Donald Trump is everything the opposite of that description.

Melania Trump is sharp: She is versed in several languages, &c.

As for pointy writing indicating you are analytical and sharp, I like to think I am those things, as a graduate of the Dunning-Kruger School of Penmanship. That said, my penmanship is nearly bookhand-perfect Palmer Method. None of that seismograph output that is her signature.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:50:12pm

re: #79 wheat-dogg

I am pretty sure it was Trump who signed it for her. It’s his seismographic script.

No, it’s her sig

Price you pay = submit & conform

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:51:26pm
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wheat-dogg  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:53:01pm

re: #83 Stanley Sea

No, it’s her sig

Price you pay = submit & conform

I concede the argument, after seeing the photographic evidence.

Now I wonder what his kid’s sigs look like.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:57:46pm

re: #85 wheat-dogg

I concede the argument, after seeing the photographic evidence.

Now I wonder what his kid’s sigs look like.

School v. Parents ??

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:58:36pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

Thinking of the young one

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 9:59:18pm

re: #84 FormerDirtDart

Two volcanoes in Indonesia and now one in Vanatu, all on the Pacific Ring of Fire, in the same week.

Is it Teh Geyhs, the atheists, the liberals?

(Or is it just nature doing its thing. Expect the more bat-crazy Christian Websites blaming all sorts of things trying to claim God’s wrath.)

I can’t remember where I read it, but last week someone put up a tongue-in-cheek article about all the Christian pulpit-pimps blaming Irma and Maria on Teh Geyhs. He noted during Katrina, the only section of New Orleans that wasn’t significantly damaged was the French Quarter.

He suggested perhaps the issue is we need to spread Teh Geyhs around to dangerous places in the world, as they seem to suppress the effects of natural disasters.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:00:21pm

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

Plus the earthquakes in Mexico.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:03:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:04:02pm

Republicans continuing to embarrass the USA around the world:
bbc.com

The article is a list of the things Roy Moore said publicly that are, well, crazy, to use a technical term from psychology.

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:06:35pm

re: #85 wheat-dogg

I concede the argument, after seeing the photographic evidence.

Now I wonder what his kid’s sigs look like.

I searched for some images of Ivanka’s autographed books. Her signature looks kinda like boobs.

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I cannot.  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:08:17pm

re: #92 danarchy

Is that a pair of bewbs, a pile of Hershey’s kisses? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:08:54pm

bbc.com

AirBNB guest accused of sexually assaulting a host’s seven year old daughter.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:09:52pm

re: #92 danarchy

I searched for some images of Ivanka’s autographed books. Her signature looks kinda like boobs.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:10:24pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹

Republicans continuing to embarrass the USA around the world:
bbc.com

The article is a list of the things Roy Moore said publicly that are, well, crazy, to use a technical term from psychology.

Moore and other batshit theocrats need to be exposed whenever and however possible. It’s still a little embarrassing though when foreign media take an interest, as though Moore is the crazy uncle who had fled the attic and appeared naked at a PTA meeting.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:13:51pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:14:37pm

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

I use airbnb so much. Best experiences ever.

You can find bad things with any google search

what is your purpose?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:15:11pm

Hurricane Maria is east of Virginia Beach now, accelerating to the NE. It is a Category I.

Hurricane Jose is way out in the Atlantic, and has increased to a Category II.

The National Hurricane Center puts Maria as an post-tropical storm of tropical storm strength near the Irish coast in a few days.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:17:43pm

re: #98 Stanley Sea

I use airbnb so much. Best experiences ever.

You can find bad things with any google search

what is your purpose?

Just noting the article. Not a big fan of child sex abusers.

Also, tech dudebro companies such as Twitter, Facebook, AirBNB, Uber, &c seem to have a problem with sexual assaults and sexual harassment. They seem to strongly oppose things such as security checks.

I’m also not a big fan of the “gig economy,” which undermines actual regulated businesses.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:20:47pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹

Just noting the article. Not a big fan of child sex abusers.

Also, tech dudebro companies such as Twitter, Facebook, AirBNB, Uber, &c seem to have a problem with sexual assaults and sexual harassment. They seem to strongly oppose things such as security checks.

I’m also not a big fan of the “gig economy,” which undermines actual regulated businesses.

Oh please.

Imagine that you are a luddite, finding anything, everything you can to fight against smart tech.

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:23:42pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹

Just noting the article. Not a big fan of child sex abusers.

Also, tech dudebro companies such as Twitter, Facebook, AirBNB, Uber, &c seem to have a problem with sexual assaults and sexual harassment. They seem to strongly oppose things such as security checks.

Do they though? Are there more sexual assaults in Ubers than taxis? Are there more sexual assaults in AirBNBs than hotels?

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:24:42pm

I was only 10 but I remember this and even I was not amused. Shark was jumped.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:28:59pm

re: #101 Stanley Sea

Oh please.

Imagine that you are a luddite, finding anything, everything you can to fight against smart tech.

Nope, not a Luddite.

I would note that even if Uber or AirBNB were good things, they would not be available here anyway (no cell service, so no apps for your phone to line up those services).

Perhaps you haven’t read of the FOX News-like culture at Uber that forced out its CEO, insisting that all its workers are contractors so they don’t have to be regulated, massive resistance from companies to actually provide security for their services.

projects.voanews.com

An article from Voice of America on a family in the Sandhills of Nebraska (hey, that’s here!) on tech companies and conservative politicians leaving us behind the tech revolution. The family notes that when the government was involved in the REA, their family got electricity.

Kathy Starr recalls how, decades ago, her mother-in-law bought a dishwasher, even though her house had no access to electricity. Rural electrification was finally coming, even though for years nay-sayers had said it was economically infeasible.

Seventy years later, Starr awaits another technological marvel to transform rural life - high speed internet.

At present, she has a wireless connection, slow and unreliable. What electricity did for her mother-in-law’s generation, Starr says, broadband internet would “do the same thing for us.”

(more at VOA)

I strongly advocate for technical innovation. I’d really like to see some here. I do not advocate for a “race to the bottom” for employees to barely make it doing things like Uber, rape issues aside.

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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:31:43pm

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

What EVIDENCE do you have that Melania is ” versed in several languages” ?
Which languages, has anyone ever heard her speak these languages, she doesn’t even speak English fluently, are we to take Trump toadies at their word?

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:34:37pm

re: #105 gocart mozart

What EVIDENCE do you have that Melania is ” versed in several languages” ?
Which languages, has anyone ever heard her speak these languages, she doesn’t even speak English fluently, are we to take Trump toadies at their word?

I have heard her speak French, Italian and English. I am guessing she can speak her native tongue and I have no reason to believe they are lying about the german.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:34:41pm

re: #102 danarchy

Do they though? Are there more sexual assaults in Ubers than taxis? Are there more sexual assaults in AirBNBs than hotels?

There is no way to compare data, because no one is doing those studies. The only “study” if you can call it that are news reports from around the world. (That, and Uber’s CEO being ousted for fostering his FOX News-like culture at his company.)

theatlantic.com

The Atlantic attempted to tackle the problem.

What we do know about Uber for example, is they absolutely fight submitting drivers to background checks. When Austin voters passed a referendum to regulate Lyft, the company said, “no thanks” and pulled out of the city.

The Atlantic notes information is largely anecdotal (again, only from news reporting). However:

There have been several reports about loopholes that have led to Uber approving drivers with criminal histories including felony convictions. And the Fair Credit Reporting Act limits the amount of information HireEase is able to uncover. (“The [act] does not limit the time for reporting convictions,” the company explained on its website, “However, adverse matters that did not result in a conviction are only reportable for seven years under the FCRA.”)

So while taxi companies check a prospective driver’s fingerprint records against a database that theoretically (more on that in a minute) includes a person’s complete criminal history in the United States, Uber background checks use a database that can only go back seven years for some information. Late last year, San Francisco District Attorney George Gascon called Uber’s background checks “completely worthless,” according to the Los Angeles Times. And several Uber and UberX drivers in the Washington, D.C., area said Uber’s background checks were hardly rigorous.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:36:41pm

re: #105 gocart mozart

What EVIDENCE do you have that Melania is ” versed in several languages” ?
Which languages, has anyone ever heard her speak these languages, she doesn’t even speak English fluently, are we to take Trump toadies at their word?

I don’t know, she seemed relatively fluent in english when she read Michelle Obama’s words and the Republican National Convention.
Honestly, unless all of her addresses have been spelled out phonetically for her to read, she seems significantly more adept at the use of english than Donald.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:37:04pm

Lubbock conservatives have discovered openly communist Army officer Spenser Rapone, with most of the guano brigade demanding that he be shot.

Facebook Post

Far be it from me to coddle commies, but I would remind the RWNJ faithful that it is not illegal to be a communist, never has been, while it has definitely always been illegal to wage war against the United States, as right-wing heroes and icons Jeff Davis, Robert E. Lee, and Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson proudly admitted to doing.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:38:10pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹

For a dude with no tv or cell coverage, it pains me to see you pontificate about any of it.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:39:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:40:40pm

re: #106 danarchy

I have heard her speak French, Italian and English. I am guessing she can speak her native tongue and I have no reason to believe they are lying about the german.

Much of it is anecdotal off course. A person at Quora attempted to answer the question of her language ability.

quora.com

Which brings us to Melania Trump. It’s claimed that she speaks Slovenian (what Robert Heinlein would call her “milk tongue”) Serbo-Croatian, Italian, German, and English (also French according to some sources). Slovenia’s neighbours are Italy to the west, Austria (German speaking) to the north, Croatia (Serbo-Croatian) to the south, and Hungary to the east. There are Italian and Hungarian “protected minorities” within Slovenia and, according to Wikipedia, a significant significant group of Croats, Serbs, Montenegrans, and Bosniaks - about 5.5% of the population - who speak Serbian or Serbo-Croatian. The relative similarity between Slovenian and Serbo-Croatian apparently makes it easy for Slovenian speakers to learn.

Again according to Wikipedia, English is usually the first foreign language that is taught in Slovenian schools being taught from pre-school on. German is the second foreign language taught, along with Serbo-Croatian. I would suggest that a woman who qualified for the University of Ljubljana would have at least some capability in those three languages. Italian might be more of a problem but you could at least pick up a bit of the language during work or vacations.

However, it has to be noted that there is no actual proof that she speaks any language other than Slovenian and English with any actual degree of fluency. There are no recordings of Melania Trump speaking any of the languages she claims to be fluent in except English. It is very possible that she studied it but does she or has she used it regularly. And what does she consider “fluent”. I know that I did four years of high school French and graduated each year but I don’t speak French and comprehend what is being said only a little better. Until such time as proof - one way or the other - appears about Melania Trump’s linguistic capabilities, we essentially have to take her word on it.

On the last (we have to take her word on it), I suppose that is no different than my claim I speak Portuguese and Andalusian Spanish (you have to take my word on it).

I have no particular reason to doubt her (Europeans tend to be versed in more than one language, unlike Americans).

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:44:45pm

Spenser Rapone with secret commie hat and clenched fist at West Point graduation in 2016, and getting Ranger patch in 2011.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:45:57pm

attn: Deadheads #RIPHef

Facebook Post

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:46:26pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

For a dude with no tv or cell coverage, it pains me to see you pontificate about any of it.

I can read newspapers, and I do have Internet service.

And yes, I can absolutely pontificate about not having anything resembling modern tech in this area.

My house was wired for electricity under the REA. It was backfitted with indoor plumbing in the late Fifties.

I couldn’t be a Christian: I can’t afford to tithe to a church. I already have to do more than that to CenturyLink. (There is a reason I am the only person in town with Internet service.)

And I do own a cell phone (albeit a flip phone). I only use it when I am in a city like Cheyenne or Denver.

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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:46:57pm

re: #108 FormerDirtDart

She may or may not speak many languages fluently. Maybe you’re right and I am mistaken.

She is demonstrably not “sharp” by any stretch unless she is putting on a dumb act in which case, kudos to her.

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:50:33pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:51:51pm

I wonder if there are any U.S. soldiers who are politically affiliated with Freak Power.

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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:51:59pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

You have no reason to doubt her, well aside from her being part of a family of pathological liars

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:53:00pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Spenser Rapone with secret commie hat and clenched fist at West Point graduation in 2016, and getting Ranger patch in 2011.

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Wasn’t aware he had been in the Regiment while enlisted. Saw some comments elsewhere that he was currently in Ranger School, and assigned to 10th Mountain Division. You know, along with all the demands that he be tried for treason and what not.

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:53:38pm

re: #117 Kragar

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promoting a political message while in uniform violates the UCMJ doesn’t it?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:53:43pm

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:55:12pm

re: #121 danarchy

promoting a political message while in uniform violates the UCMJ doesn’t it?

Yes.

Also, wearing a printed t-shirt in uniform is an out-of-uniform violation. (T-shirts must be plain.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:58:30pm

re: #119 gocart mozart

You have no reason to doubt her, well aside from her being part of a family of pathological liars

There is that.

I’m going to need to leave for the evening. I have an appointment with the VA tomorrow in Cheyenne … get to see Torquemada for my hand physical therapy and get poked and prodded for the osteoporosis study being done by the Salt Lake City VA.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 10:59:44pm

re: #117 Kragar

Technically he could be charged under Art 133 of the UCMJ. Conduct Unbecoming of an Officer and a Gentleman. Which authorizes a maximum punishment of:

Dismissal, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for a period not in excess of that authorized for the most analogous (similar) offense for which a punishment is prescribed in this Manual, or, if none is prescribed, for 1 year.

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:01:17pm

re: #125 FormerDirtDart

Technically he could be charged under Art 133 of the UCMJ. Conduct Unbecoming of an Officer and a Gentleman. Which authorizes a maximum punishment of:

Part of me wonders if he is trying to get discharged before Trump starts a war.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:02:20pm

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹

Wow. That guy. I just can’t. But I did.

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:03:24pm

Seeing Hef discussed with a lot of nuance on the intertubes which is good. Some good stuff and some not so good stuff. He lived quite a life and I hope his family is at peace with his home going.

I didn’t get skeeved by him until the later years and that damn reality show. It was weird and a little gross to me. Grown ass doppelganger women who were just soooo young (and younger looking) had all these house rules and curfews. They were certainly there of their own free will but it was like a bizarre boarding home for blondes. They weren’t trying to create awareness of less mainstream relationship types it was just a stale mens’ fantasy reel mixed with reality show dynamics.

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:05:11pm

re: #125 FormerDirtDart

Technically.

I can remember dozens of other similar incidents over the years which amounted to nothing more than a slap on the wrist, if even that.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:05:20pm

re: #126 danarchy

Part of me wonders if he is trying to get discharged before Trump starts a war.

That wouldn’t be incredibly bright. Seeing as if he is dismissed from the service, he would likely be subject to reimbursing the United States for his USMA education.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:07:22pm

re: #127 GlutenFreeJesus

Wow. That guy. I just can’t. But I did.

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The critics of “PC culture” sure seem to be a huge bunch of “snowflakes,” don’t they?

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:10:09pm

Oops!! You missed a few things before you hit publish.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:10:12pm
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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:16:41pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:23:56pm

re: #134 JordanRules

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Perhaps Andrew can explain how millions fleeing Germany during the 30s did the world any good.

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JordanRules  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:26:22pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

Whew! It is entirely too late at night for that much realness on Twitter Target!

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Nyet  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:42:07pm
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Nyet  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:43:28pm

re: #137 Nyet

Case in point:

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:45:20pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:49:32pm

re: #136 JordanRules

Whew! It is entirely too late at night for that much realness on Twitter Target!

Andrew’s “argument” couldn’t be more stereotypical if he tried. It blends two of the more thoughtless talking points: “Rich people are hypocrites to complain about social ills” and “Emigration is so easy that refusal to leave proves things aren’t that bad.” Compound it by being a Canadian who thinks the answer to societal problems is just holding another election and you get a moron who could write for the New York Times editorial board.

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fern01  Sep 27, 2017 • 11:54:50pm

re: #108 FormerDirtDart

Honestly, unless all of her addresses have been spelled out phonetically for her to read, she seems significantly more adept at the use of english than Donald.

Most 5 year olds are considerably more adept at the use of english than Donald.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2017 • 12:07:06am

re: #139 teleskiguy

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We can look forward to at least 24-48 hours of moral guardians sounding off about the “evils” of Hugh Hefner.

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Nyet  Sep 28, 2017 • 12:14:17am
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Nyet  Sep 28, 2017 • 12:14:43am

re: #143 Nyet

“Moral guardians” on both sides ;)

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Nyet  Sep 28, 2017 • 12:17:06am
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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2017 • 12:20:33am

I really have no opinion on Hef either way, I grew up in an era when far raunchier porn was available for free on the Internet. Hell, Porn Hub these days is a greater detriment to the morals of society than Hugh Hefner. Both sides will make their arguments for and against him, damning him as the “evil” to befall the “moral fabric” of America or laud him as an icon of the sexual revolution.

Me? By the time I came around, he was the punch line of jokes old enough to drink.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2017 • 12:21:00am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

There have been epochs of strong seismic and volcanic activity in Earth’s past. It’s really nothing new…..we’re just around to witness in real-time now.

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Nyet  Sep 28, 2017 • 12:24:44am

Those of the feminist activists who are sex-negative (there are quite a few) will join in with the right in pouring dirt on the dead man. Funny how these things converge.

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 1:11:49am
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Kragar  Sep 28, 2017 • 1:34:04am
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Kragar  Sep 28, 2017 • 1:39:10am

And for anyone needing high octane nightmare fuel…

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Chrysicat  Sep 28, 2017 • 1:53:59am
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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 2:15:32am
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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2017 • 2:19:56am

re: #150 Kragar

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The “New NFL” is so terrible that the wingnut fans are threatening a boycott unless they can go back to what they paid to watch: A bunch of burly black men engage in a ritualized blood sport that dooms those involved to a lifetime of neurological issues and declining mental health from repeated traumatic brain injuries.

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I cannot.  Sep 28, 2017 • 2:20:34am

re: #152 Chrysicat

*pounds the updinger*

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2017 • 2:53:09am

I’m sure Roger Goodell is so worried about a boycott, considering the boycott that was launched last year at Trump’s insistence did so much to…drive up the league’s profitability to where it did almost $1 billion more in revenue that the prior year.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2017 • 2:57:18am

re: #157 Targetpractice

I’m sure Roger Goodell is so worried about a boycott, considering the boycott that was launched last year at Trump’s insistence did so much to…drive up the league’s profitability to where it did almost $1 billion more in revenue that the prior year.

This is all a business decision on the part of the NFL and its member teams. I refuse to look on it as anything else. They can pass a rule about standing at attention during the SSB if they think that is in their overall interest.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2017 • 3:01:35am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is all a business decision on the part of the NFL and its member teams. I refuse to look on it as anything else. They can pass a rule about standing at attention during the SSB if they think that is in their overall interest.

Right, if they believed that there was a real chance that a boycott over these protests would hurt the league, they would take action to do something about them. Contrary to the wingnuts, we shouldn’t assume that lack of action is an implicit endorsement of the protests. Goodell could decide tomorrow to walk out to the podium and declare every player and owner who has participated in the protests will be penalized. Though at this juncture that would likely be career suicide.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2017 • 3:23:58am

re: #159 Targetpractice

Right, if they believed that there was a real chance that a boycott over these protests would hurt the league, they would take action to do something about them. Contrary to the wingnuts, we shouldn’t assume that lack of action is an implicit endorsement of the protests. Goodell could decide tomorrow to walk out to the podium and declare every player and owner who has participated in the protests will be penalized. Though at this juncture that would likely be career suicide.

and remember that this was all a moot point until 2009, when players started coming out for the national anthem because the US military started offering money to professional sports teams to promote more patriotic spectacles. The leagues took the millions and did not think about possible consequences down the line…

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2017 • 4:25:15am

re: #157 Targetpractice

The last year the NFL made their salaries public a couple of years ago, Roger Goodell earned $46 million, more than twice the earnings of the CEO of Walmart.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 28, 2017 • 4:38:33am
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jeffreyw  Sep 28, 2017 • 5:00:55am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 28, 2017 • 5:01:49am

Man Gets Same ‘Neutered’ Tattoo As His Dog, Has No Regrets

In a Facebook post, the Texas native announced that he was upset that a previous owner had decided to tattoo Bear before the rescue dog was adopted by him in 2010. “It sickens me to know that people actually tattoo their pets. So tonight I got his tattoo,” Bear’s owner wrote. According to reports however, the symbol likely came from a doctor because it’s meant to let other vets know an animal’s been neutered to prevent unneeded surgery. Tattoos like that are also required by the Association of Shelter Veterinarians.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 28, 2017 • 5:02:57am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 28, 2017 • 5:21:05am

True

Very True

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2017 • 5:23:04am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

Kneeling during the National Anthem: Not a violation of Title 36.
Wearing the flag as clothing: Violation of Title 36.

If wingnuts ever did pass some sort of law or amendment prohibiting using the ensign in ways contrary to the Flag Code, that would be the end of horrendous clothing like that, throwaway dinnerware emblazoned with flags, &c.

the july 4th party store lobby would totally rally against it

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 28, 2017 • 5:29:43am

“Great Reviews!”
He really believes this is a fucking reality show

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 5:32:25am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

“Great Reviews!”
He really believes this is a fucking reality show

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He really does. I really think he’s senile or that insane. Either way, he doesn’t belong in the WH.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2017 • 5:35:32am

re: #47 JordanRules

True. I’d heard about his racism before and was quite shocked but it can’t be denied.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2017 • 5:39:55am

re: #65 mmmirele

Thanks for that very important story. Never knew. It’s great how we can learn so much from blogs like these.

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fern01  Sep 28, 2017 • 5:42:07am

re: #102 danarchy

Do they though? Are there more sexual assaults in Ubers than taxis? Are there more sexual assaults in AirBNBs than hotels?

Transport for London certainly thinks so in regard to Uber.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:04:42am

re: #65 mmmirele

I’ll be honest, I’m not much of a fan of the pictures in Playboy. However, there is this:

In the summer of 1964, civil rights workers James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Mickey Schwerner disappeared in Mississippi. And they couldn’t be found. The assumption (true) was that they were dead. Comedian Dick Gregory got an idea:

stillcrew.com

And yes, this helped to break the case wide open. After 44 days, the bodies of Goodman, Chaney and Schwerner were found. If you read the article, you’ll find that the FBI was worse than no help at all, and there were lots of rumors going around that the three had run off to Cuba or worse. Finding the bodies allowed the reality of what happened to sink in.

So thank you and Rest In Power, Hugh Hefner.

Why did Heff and Gregory politicize these Civil Rights killings?

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:21:26am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy tweeting this morning about tax cuts and lying his ass off (as usual). The GOP is likewise lying about their tax plan.

But first, a recap on Maria aid/recovery:

The answer so far remains no. They haven’t given the USNS Comfort orders to go help in Puerto Rico.

Trump did finally waive the Jones Act this morning, more than a week after he should have - it was clear a week ago that massive aid was needed, and shipping would be critical to getting aid and equipment in.

PR is still in dire shape. Lack of water, food, power, and even money is an issue. Trump’s still too busy pandering to millionaires like himself though, and the GOP is more than happy to oblige Trump with a massive tax cut that shifts the burdens from the rich to everyone else.

We can definitively say that millionaires like Trump make out like bandits. We know their top tax rate gets slashed. We know that pass throughs would get a big tax cut (think Kansas), and the estate tax would get repealed (only affects 0.1% of Americans, but adds up to billions of dollars a year that could go to … disaster relief).

Instead, the GOP will claim that their tax scheme will grow the economy by a higher rate than the CBO or others estimate and that will not grow the debt. The reality is that the trickle down BS will do nothing to grow the economy but it will massively add to the debt, and the GOP response to this will be to slash and burn the safety net in response.

They’ve been trying to do that via Obamacare repeal to destroy Medicaid. They’re going to try the same thing with the outcome of their tax scheme.

And I refer to it as a scheme because there’s no bill. There’s nothing that can be scored. There aren’t even basic details like whether the GOP considers this revenue neutral or what the bracket thresholds would be.

I can set the brackets of 12%, 25%, and 35% any way I want. I could make 12% apply to the first dollar of income or to $12,000 or above. Likewise, I could set 35% to hit people at $450,000 or $4.5 million. Guess who benefits in each of those cases.

If Trump sets that middle rate anywhere near what he was proposing during the campaign, many Americans will see no benefit on the tax rate alone. They might get royally screwed depending on what deductions and credits will continue. But we know that the rich will see significant cuts. That’s the only we can know for sure.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:22:16am

re: #23 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

But he also says the character was like Archie Bunker, who had some positive qualities, but was more of an asshole than likable. The show poked fun at Conservatives.

So he’s a typical conservative victim: If he’d have been a leftist all would be well. His show was only cancelled because he was a conservative. Oh woe is he.

Meh. Whatever.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:24:52am

I’ve been absorbed the past week with cat care. My oldest feline went OTRB yesterday. I’d had him for almost 16 years, and he may have been as old as 20. He’d been declining for some time, but the end was still a little more sudden and more confusing than I would have preferred. But it’s done and he’s at rest now.

And The Orange Fuhrer used this time to issue a Papal Bull regarding NFL football games and the proper posture of “respect” he believes should be granted to the flag during the playing of the national anthem.

At this pace I’m not sure how the country gets through the next three years.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:26:31am

re: #176 Sir John Barron

Your Nic today is Kind Sir John Barron.
Respects and sympathies.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:26:54am

re: #175 MsJ

So he’s a typical conservative victim: If he’d have been a leftist all would be well. His show was only cancelled because he was a conservative. Oh woe is he.

Meh. Whatever.

Actors in Hollyweird should stop being so political except for conservative actors who should be given more roles even though affirmative action for blacks is bad.

//

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:28:20am

re: #177 Unshaken Defiance

Your Nic today is Kind Sir John Barron.
Respects and sympathies.

Thank you. Much appreciated.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:32:07am

re: #149 JordanRules

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This is basically something my 16yo said in the car a few days ago: CK is going to look pretty good in a few years and few of my friends will admit to hating him.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:35:16am

re: #174 lawhawk

Greets and saluts…
Instead, the GOP will claim that their tax scheme will grow the economy by a higher rate than the CBO or others estimate and that will not grow the debt. The reality is that the trickle down BS will do nothing to grow the economy but it will massively add to the debt, and the GOP response to this will be to slash and burn the safety net in response.

echoed further and clarified at Electoral-vote.com “Wizard of Oz” Tax Reform

Trump is promising 6% annual growth for the rest of his term, which might indeed make his plan revenue-neutral if it happened, but that is about as likely as a herd of unicorns appearing at his next rally. According to the World Bank, the U.S. has achieved that level of growth precisely once in the past 50 years (1973), and has never pulled it off for three years in a row. Consequently, it is almost certain that the Trump plan will blow a giant hole in the budget. This will mean borrowing more money, and then will eventually culminate in a crisis of some sort, most likely to manifest itself when a Democrat is in the White House, left holding the bag.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:35:53am

Even Trump’s idiot advisers are admitting that taxes may rise for some in the middle class.

That’s yet another red flag that this tax scheme is bullshit.

Only ones we know will end up paying far less are millionaires. Everyone else may see a wash or higher taxes. We also know that the GOP is pushing for massive cuts to Medicare and Medicaid again, so we see the full scope of the GOP craven agenda - massive redistribution of wealth to the rich from everyone else while everyone else’s burdens are increased.

Moreover, the GOP has punted on all the key decisions - the so called framework leaves out all the critical bits that identify bracket thresholds and what credits and deductions will continue. That’s all on purpose, because despite having years to come up with a plan, we’re again seeing the GOP absolutely rudderless and incapable of putting together a coherent plan or vision because the only things that matters to them are: destroying the safety net, rolling back civil/voting rights, and giving massive tax cuts to the rich.

Their proposals accomplish all of the above, but they can’t get agreement on the specifics - mostly because the GOP extremists don’t think even that radical agenda is sufficient.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:37:42am

re: #174 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy tweeting this morning about tax cuts and lying his ass off (as usual). The GOP is likewise lying about their tax plan.

But first, a recap on Maria aid/recovery:

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The answer so far remains no. They haven’t given the USNS Comfort orders to go help in Puerto Rico.

Trump did finally waive the Jones Act this morning, more than a week after he should have - it was clear a week ago that massive aid was needed, and shipping would be critical to getting aid and equipment in.

PR is still in dire shape. Lack of water, food, power, and even money is an issue. Trump’s still too busy pandering to millionaires like himself though, and the GOP is more than happy to oblige Trump with a massive tax cut that shifts the burdens from the rich to everyone else.

We can definitively say that millionaires like Trump make out like bandits. We know their top tax rate gets slashed. We know that pass throughs would get a big tax cut (think Kansas), and the estate tax would get repealed (only affects 0.1% of Americans, but adds up to billions of dollars a year that could go to … disaster relief).

Instead, the GOP will claim that their tax scheme will grow the economy by a higher rate than the CBO or others estimate and that will not grow the debt. The reality is that the trickle down BS will do nothing to grow the economy but it will massively add to the debt, and the GOP response to this will be to slash and burn the safety net in response.

They’ve been trying to do that via Obamacare repeal to destroy Medicaid. They’re going to try the same thing with the outcome of their tax scheme.

And I refer to it as a scheme because there’s no bill. There’s nothing that can be scored. There aren’t even basic details like whether the GOP considers this revenue neutral or what the bracket thresholds would be.

I can set the brackets of 12%, 25%, and 35% any way I want. I could make 12% apply to the first dollar of income or to $12,000 or above. Likewise, I could set 35% to hit people at $450,000 or $4.5 million. Guess who benefits in each of those cases.

If Trump sets that middle rate anywhere near what he was proposing during the campaign, many Americans will see no benefit on the tax rate alone. They might get royally screwed depending on what deductions and credits will continue. But we know that the rich will see significant cuts. That’s the only we can know for sure.

Moring, the Comfort is headed that way:

The Internet asked for the USNS Comfort to be sent to Puerto Rico. The Navy listened.

miamiherald.com

It is a disgrace that costs lives that it wasn’t there much, much earlier.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:37:44am

re: #181 dangerman

echoed further and clarified at Electoral-vote.com “Wizard of Oz” Tax Reform

“This will mean borrowing more money, and then will eventually culminate in a crisis of some sort, most likely to manifest itself when a Democrat is in the White House, left holding the bag.”

As usual.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:40:19am

The most troubling response I’ve heard in reaction to the NFL protests is that which links The Flag with The Military, The Police, and First Responders. As in, by kneeling instead of standing, the players are disrespecting the military and all law enforcement.

So, the implication being, that the overly militarized and heavily choreographed starts to large sporting events like football have become in effect religious liturgies in which the public and sportsballers are required to pay obeisance to uniformed personnel. Among everything else, this is pretty disturbing.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:42:37am

re: #182 lawhawk

Democrats don’t want massive tax cuts - how does that win elections? Great reviews for Tax Cut and Reform Bill.
— Donald J. Trump

Next week (or tomorrow): Senate needs 50 votes immediately no blocking filibuster! End filibuster now! Dems will do!

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I cannot.  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:42:40am

re: #183 b.d. (bill d.)

It is a disgrace that costs lives that it wasn’t there much, much earlier.

As I recall, the Navy said, in one of the MANY conflicting reasons why it wasn’t being sent, was that there were no working ports/harbors there that could support it and patients would have to be airlifted offshore to it.

IT.
HAS.
A.
HELIPAD.
FOR.
THAT.
REASON.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:44:11am

re: #187 I cannot.

As I recall, the Navy said, in one of the MANY conflicting reasons why it wasn’t being sent, was that there were no working ports/harbors there that could support it and patients would have to be airlifted offshore to it.

IT.
HAS.
A.
HELIPAD.
FOR.
THAT.
REASON.

It’s also an island, very hard to get to. You just can’t drive there. Atlantic Ocean. Many people don’t know that.

/

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:45:51am

re: #182 lawhawk

Democrats don’t want massive tax cuts - how does that win elections? Great reviews for Tax Cut and Reform Bill.

— Donald J. Trump

Whatever happened to the handwringing about OUR NATIONAL DEBT WERE PRACTICALLY BANKRUPT 75 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT FOR INFINITY!!!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:47:05am

Internet fast break

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:50:17am

re: #159 Targetpractice

Right, if they believed that there was a real chance that a boycott over these protests would hurt the league, they would take action to do something about them. Contrary to the wingnuts, we shouldn’t assume that lack of action is an implicit endorsement of the protests. Goodell could decide tomorrow to walk out to the podium and declare every player and owner who has participated in the protests will be penalized. Though at this juncture that would likely be career suicide.

I give the owners a little credit for standing up to Trump. I give the coaches and players way more credit because they could be fired for what they’re doing.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:51:00am

re: #190 I Would Prefer Not To

That too is ripe for a photo edit job….

With Trump Admin vs. FBI (or Mueller) and FBI/Mueller advancing.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:54:35am

re: #53 danarchy

Is it just my imagination or does Melania’s signature look an awful lot like Donnie’s on all those EO’s?

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Totally the same signature. Donnie likely signed it or has a stamp that he created for her (it’s part and parcel of being the kept trophy wife).

To whom was that letter written? What grade level gets a Welcome Back to School letter along with a Dr. Seuss book? That seems something more towards kindergartners.

Kinda weird in my eyes.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:54:40am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:57:54am

re: #194 makeitstop

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Schooled. Pun intended.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2017 • 6:59:32am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:01:38am

re: #196 lawhawk

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Can’t wait to see FNC attack Honore.

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I cannot.  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:03:19am

re: #194 makeitstop

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:09:16am

re: #84 FormerDirtDart

Vanuatu, the place I’d never heard of until a few years ago, and only learned about when I downloaded a couple of Earthquake apps, because they have earthquakes there every single day. Some relatively small, others rather large, but every day Vanuatu has earthquakes.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:20:45am

re: #116 gocart mozart

She may or may not speak many languages fluently. Maybe you’re right and I am mistaken.

She is demonstrably not “sharp” by any stretch unless she is putting on a dumb act in which case, kudos to her.

Why kudos? A woman playing dumb serves what purpose?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:21:59am

re: #134 JordanRules

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My question is: Why don’t these people that seem to hate parts of out Constitution just leave and find another country that better meets their idea of the perfect society? Why do those of us that demand people adhere to our country’s Constitution have to leave?

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:23:37am

re: #201 Eventual Carrion

My question is: Why don’t these people that seem to hate parts of out Constitution just leave and find another country that better meets their idea of the perfect society? Why do those of us that demand people adhere to our country’s Constitution have to leave?

Because they desire to rule over others. It’s not just enough to be white/Christian/male. It has to be forced upon those around them because they know best.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:24:55am

re: #200 MsJ

Why kudos? A woman playing dumb serves what purpose?

In Melania’s case, it protects her from being thrown down the stairs when her master thinks she’s getting “uppity”.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:26:20am

re: #128 JordanRules

Seeing Hef discussed with a lot of nuance on the intertubes which is good. Some good stuff and some not so good stuff. He lived quite a life and I hope his family is at peace with his home going.

I didn’t get skeeved by him until the later years and that damn reality show. It was weird and a little gross to me. Grown ass doppelganger women who were just soooo young (and younger looking) had all these house rules and curfews. They were certainly there of their own free will but it was like a bizarre boarding home for blondes. They weren’t trying to create awareness of less mainstream relationship types it was just a stale mens’ fantasy reel mixed with reality show dynamics.

For me it was the great-grandpa and the young girls dynamic that grossed me out. Rigid lifestyle imposed on young girls by their sexually desirous great grandpappy.

Ick.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:30:23am

re: #190 I Would Prefer Not To

Internet fast break

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Probably found in a university bookstore in Lexington.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:33:18am

re: #204 MsJ

For me it was the great-grandpa and the young girls dynamic that grossed me out. Rigid lifestyle imposed on young girls by their sexually desirous great grandpappy.

Ick.

Hefner was stuck in perpetual 20-something mode. I could admire his determination to remain young at heart, but not his inability to see women above 30 as suitable partners.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:34:57am

re: #205 Barefoot Grin

Probably found in a university bookstore in Lexington.

It looks ‘shopped. The bracket is too straight to be a rumpled T-shirt.

But it wouldn’t be too hard to print it on a shirt.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:35:24am

“Not to brag, but we are very good-looking,” he says. “Our facial features are naturally attractive. We’ve got great eyebrows, big, beautiful eyes and double eyelids that weren’t created by a surgeon.”

I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry at this quote.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:41:01am

re: #208 electrotek

Some facts about Chinese Uyghurs.

The government requires them to adopt a two- to three-character Chinese name for national ID purposes. (Also true for Tibetans.)

They are becoming a minority in their own homeland, as the government has enticed Han majority people to move there. (Again, same is true for Tibet.)

They are more closely related genetically and culturally to Turkic peoples in Central Asia.

Their food is damned good.

And yes, there are many beautiful (and tall!) Uyghur ladies. Quite a few at the university I used to teach at in Hunan.

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I cannot.  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:41:42am

re: #200 MsJ

You have to be really smart to in order to play really dumb. If its an act, its a credit to her acting ability. Its not necessarily a credit to her as a person though.

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ipsos  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:42:09am

Catching up on last night’s Vietnam War installment. Burns and Novick were pretty unsparing when it came to Jane Fonda. (And also relatively brief - how is it that in an 18 hour documentary, some parts still feel glossed over?)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:42:17am

re: #209 wheat-dogg

Some facts about Chinese Uyghurs.

The government requires them to adopt a two- to three-character Chinese name for national ID purposes. (Also true for Tibetans.)

They are becoming a minority in their own homeland, as the government has enticed Han majority people to move there. (Again, same is true for Tibet.)

They are more closely related genetically and culturally to Turkic peoples in Central Asia.

Their food is damned good.

And yes, there are many beautiful (and tall!) Uyghur ladies. Quite a few at the university I used to teach at in Hunan.

What’s their food like? And the lady on the image is beautiful.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:43:14am

re: #209 wheat-dogg

Some facts about Chinese Uyghurs.

The government requires them to adopt a two- to three-character Chinese name for national ID purposes. (Also true for Tibetans.)

They are becoming a minority in their own homeland, as the government has enticed Han majority people to move there. (Again, same is true for Tibet.)

They are more closely related genetically and culturally to Turkic peoples in Central Asia.

Their food is damned good.

And yes, there are many beautiful (and tall!) Uyghur ladies. Quite a few at the university I used to teach at in Hunan.

This flies in the face of the “white genocide” crowd who argue that diversity is killing off what makes us supposedly unique.

I’m familiar with the Uighurs and the repression they’ve gone through since 1949. Don’t like what China is doing in Xinjiang by encouraging more Han settlement to dilute Uighurs of their presence and numbers. It should be celebrated instead of repressed. I’m concerned about how many Uighurs will end up becoming more radicalized as a reaction to the repression and make things a lot worse for the province.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:44:07am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

What’s their food like? And the lady on the image is beautiful.

If you love lamb and oven-toasted bread then you’re in for a treat. Had some in Tokyo and I was hooked.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:46:10am

re: #214 electrotek

If you love lamb and oven-toasted bread then you’re in for a treat. Had some in Tokyo and I was hooked.

Yes and yes! Cool deal. I love trying new cuisines.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:47:00am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Yes and yes! Cool deal. I love trying new cuisines.

You live in DC/VA/MD region correct? There’s a few Uighur restaurants over there.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:47:59am

re: #216 electrotek

You live in DC/VA/MD region correct? There’s a few Uighur restaurants over there.

Yeah I do. I’ll definitely look for one next time I’m in D.C or closer to it.

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freetoken  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:48:26am

Regarding Hefner: I look at him as a highly flawed hero. Someone who did good… while he was doing bad.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:50:59am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Yeah I do. I’ll definitely look for one next time I’m in D.C or closer to it.

There’s one called Queen Amannisa

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:52:48am

re: #219 electrotek

There’s one called Queen Amannisa

Cool, that’s in Arlington. I’ll have to check it sometime before I go to a show.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:53:40am

Supposedly there are some Uighur restaurants in Houston so I’ll have to scope one out next time. I’m a sucker for grilled items out of the Near East so sign me up!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 7:55:51am

I need to make it an effort to try some Puerto Rican food next time I’m in NYC. Not sure how it compares to Dominican which I’ve tried and liked.

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ipsos  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:01:01am

Steve Scalise is back on the House floor. Still don’t like his policies, but I’m pleased to see he’s evidently recovered well from the shooting.

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:02:37am

This is straight bullshit. I’ve never really had strong feelings about MZ even though I stopped using his platform over 10 years ago. But after the lies and delays regarding the investigation of foreign ads and the like I started looking at him funny. This response though…it’s foul and I think he’s a jackass that deserves more scrutiny.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:03:12am

re: #206 wheat-dogg

Hefner was stuck in perpetual 20-something mode. I could admire his determination to remain young at heart, but not his inability to see women above 30 as suitable partners.

It wasn’t just Hef that made me go Ick. It was the girls as well, if not more, because while the grandpa sex thing grossed me out, the three young girls “taking advantage” of the old man thing was equally, if not more gross, on its own.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:03:42am

espn.com

I know we have a lot of Houston lizards. Guys, I’m a diehard Steelers fan but your QB just made another fan. This guy is awesome. It just shows real humility considering is own background. Between him and J.J. Watt, the Texans may have become my new second favorite team outside of “Who’s playing New England.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:04:04am

re: #223 ipsos

Steve Scalise is back on the House floor. Still don’t like his policies, but I’m pleased to see he’s evidently recovered well from the shooting.

That is good.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:06:37am

re: #224 JordanRules

This is straight bullshit. I’ve never really had strong feelings about MZ even though I stopped using his platform over 10 years ago. But after the lies and delays regarding the investigation of foreign ads and the like I started looking at him funny. This response though…it’s foul and I think he’s a jackass that deserves more scrutiny.

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Zuckerberg is a worm.

He’s probably sweating over the fact that he repeatedly lied to the FBI about how many Russian ads he took money for. I sincerely hope they find something to charge his dudebro ass with. He definitely needs to be knocked down a peg or two.

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freetoken  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:08:04am

re: #224 JordanRules

“Both sides”.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:09:59am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

What an awesome gift. #texasproud

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:10:19am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Watson has been on the receiving end of a similar kindness in the past, as he and his family were once recipients of a house built by Habitat for Humanity.

This is part of the reason so many of them protest as well: They may be making more money than their families have ever seen, but they know where they came from and the help it took to get there. They know they didn’t do it all on their own.

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:10:34am

re: #229 freetoken

He had a heads up from the Ukrainian President and President Obama about how his platform was being used for especially bad stuff by one side and has the nerve to go public like this after saying in December it was silliness to think his platform played any role in anything.

Just foul.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:10:44am

re: #229 freetoken

“Both sides”.

That phrase needs to die hard after 2017 ends.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:12:09am

The Chinese finding a niche with Uighurs reminds me of the Japanese modeling agencies doing the same with their hafus. It’s such a dichotomy, as hafus aren’t exactly respected in Japanese society but have no problem with their looks being in demand on the catwalk and product campaigns.

It’s weird.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:13:51am

re: #234 electrotek

The Chinese finding a niche with Uighurs reminds me of the Japanese modeling agencies doing the same with their hafus. It’s such a dichotomy, as hafus aren’t exactly respected in Japanese society but have no problem with their looks being in demand on the catwalk and product campaigns.

It’s weird.

It’s the exotic, and possibly a bit of domination. Think Jefferson and Sally Jennings. Think football fans and black players.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:14:45am

re: #231 Belafon

This is part of the reason so many of them protest as well: They may be making more money than their families have ever seen, but they know where they came from and the help it took to get there. They know they didn’t do it all on their own.

Exactly. A lot of these guys come from truly humble backgrounds.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:15:17am

re: #235 Belafon

It’s the exotic, and possibly a bit of domination. Think Jefferson and Sally Jennings. Think football fans and black players.

Good point.

I was thinking of an analogy with Latin America but it doesn’t apply since the light-skinned models that grace the billboards of many Latin American metropolitan cities are sought after by the same light-skinned elites. Not so much the case in East Asia.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:15:47am

re: #230 Flying Squirrel Girl

What an awesome gift. #texasproud

Isn’t it? What a great guy. Last week I was just rooting for him because I hate the NE Patriots but Watson seems like a great dude. I think he’s going to be a good one. A winner on and off the field.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:18:53am

re: #233 electrotek

That phrase needs to die hard after 2017 ends.

When it comes to “Both Sides”, the initials alone speak to its value as an argument.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:22:25am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:24:34am

Get a load of this BS:

What about Moore’s history of racially insensitive comments? Haven’t heard anything. Homophobic remarks? Nada. Moore’s claim that some American communities are living under Sharia law? Crickets. Moore’s statement that 9/11 happened “because we’ve distanced ourselves from God”? Nothing for you on that. Moore’s assertion that Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison shouldn’t be allowed to serve in Congress because he’s a Muslim? We’ll get back to you. Moore saying Mitch McConnell should be replaced as Senate majority leader? Uhh, zip. […]
“I don’t know anything about Roy Moore,” said Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). “If I’ve read anything he’s said, I wouldn’t have any recollection of it.”

“I don’t know him. I think I’ll leave it there,” said Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, who laughed when asked about Moore. “I supported Luther Strange.”

“I’ve never met the gentleman,” said Georgia Sen. Johnny Isakson. “Being from Georgia, which is next to Alabama, I’ve heard his name in the Alabama Supreme Court. I know what I’ve seen on TV and what I’ve read in the papers.”

So what does Isakson think about Moore? “I like to keep my comments to my own.”

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:25:16am

re: #240 FormerDirtDart

In November. Good thing nothing major was happening around then.

Uggh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:27:10am

re: #241 Belafon

Get a load of this BS:

They’re such pathetic wimps. They know who he is.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:27:25am
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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:27:39am

re: #241 Belafon

They can prolly just re-up their evolution of supporting Twitler and the accompanying comments for Moore now.

They have no problem with him.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:27:58am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:30:23am

re: #246 lawhawk

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Gee Rich I dunno. Could it be that your ideology isn’t about cutting middle taxes at all but instead about cutting taxes for the very wealthy?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:31:03am

Moore made national news in the Bush years FFS with his 10 Commandment stunt.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:31:57am

re: #241 Belafon

Get a load of this BS:

The Know-Nothing Party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:32:56am

good fecking grief

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:34:18am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fecking grief

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What the fuck.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:34:21am

Going to include some of the reply thread with more analysis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:34:22am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fecking grief

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:35:11am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s such a fucking monster.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:35:46am

Of course, we’ll get crickets from the taxation is theft people because Puerto Ricans don’t look like them.

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Jay C  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:36:41am

re: #211 ipsos

Catching up on last night’s Vietnam War installment. Burns and Novick were pretty unsparing when it came to Jane Fonda. (And also relatively brief - how is it that in an 18 hour documentary, some parts still feel glossed over?)

The “American” part of the Vietnam War went on for about 13-14 years or so: with frequent combat, and fairly high casualty rates for most of it: not to mention the domestic issues it engendered.. It’s not surprising that even a well-constructed documentary is going to have skip/gloss/abridge/condense a lot of the story. And given that the “progress” made during that time was, for the most part temporary or illusory, telling the “story” of the US involvement there is no simple task.

IANAE: but I recall reading once that as far as the Vietnamese are concerned, the “American War” was only the latter stages of their struggle for national independence - which for them, was seen as a nearly thirty-year fight (from Ho Ch Minh’s declaration of an independent government in Sept., 1945 to the final Fall Of Saigon in April, 1975)

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:39:33am

Oh look at her pearls!

Love!

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:39:52am

re: #240 FormerDirtDart

Obama, 2008: How can we use the internet to bring people into our campaign to try to change America?
Republicans, 2016: How can we use the internet for evil?

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:40:40am

re: #257 JordanRules

*punches updinger multiple times*

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:40:41am

Has that bigoted Miss Puerto Rico Trump supporter Destiny Velez commented anything about the disaster in her homeland yet?

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Jay C  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:40:42am

re: #241 Belafon

Get a load of this BS:

Yeah, right. Jeez Louise! I know about as much/more about Judge Roy Moore as them, and I’m just Some Random Guy On The Internet! Ans these clowns are Senators???? GMAFB….

PS: anyone know what the Moore-Jones polling numbers look like (yet)??

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:41:30am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump administration making Puerto Rico evacuees pay full airline fares & confiscating passports

The inevitable question that arises is ‘How is Trump making money off of doing this?’

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I cannot.  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:42:55am

re: #262 makeitstop

He probably isn’t this time.

I bet this is Miller just being a sadistic dick.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:46:04am

The thread is pretty epic.
Just a taste

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:46:22am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:47:20am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bonespur says what.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:48:57am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

Bonespur says what.

I think you mean “Putin’s plaything says what?”

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:50:47am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

We don’t know if Jerry Jones answered his calls or not, but I said on Monday that these 2 super egos sparring could be interesting.

He is going to keep getting louder and more offensive.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:52:08am

re: #268 JordanRules

We don’t know if Jerry Jones answered his calls or not, but I said on Monday that these 2 super egos sparring could be interesting.

He is going to keep getting louder and more offensive.

Tax shirker did what?

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:52:18am

re: #268 JordanRules

We don’t know if Jerry Jones answered his calls or not, but I said on Monday that these 2 super egos sparring could be interesting.

He is going to keep getting louder and more offensive.

While there’s a lot of cussing to be made at the owners, they are businessmen. I’m pretty sure they’re not going to want to be seen as kissing Trump’s ass. Especially since most of them could buy him in a hostile takeover.

Edit: What if Jones had been original planning on discouraging the players from doing something until Trump kept calling? What if that’s what pushed Jones to go out with the players?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:52:55am

re: #268 JordanRules

Two sources told NBC DFW President Trump blew up Jerry’s cell Monday, calling him four times throughout the day…
— Jean-Jacques Taylor

Trump not preoccupied, busy working, works really hard.

/

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:52:58am

re: #268 JordanRules

We don’t know if Jerry Jones answered his calls or not, but I said on Monday that these 2 super egos sparring could be interesting.

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He is going to keep getting louder and more offensive.

It’s only a matter of time before one of Trump’s targets tell him to go fuck himself to his face. Preferably, on live TV. In front of the whole world.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:53:15am

re: #272 Dr Lizardo

It’s only a matter of time before one of Trump’s targets tell him to go fuck himself to his face. Preferably, on live TV. In front of the whole world.

I’d pay good money to see that.

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I cannot.  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:53:40am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

I mean, I’d be afraid of guys three times my size that are paid to crash into guys three times my size at full speed…but its pretty obvious what he actually meant.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:54:35am

But Obama was a tyrant…..

/

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 8:56:07am

re: #275 Sir John Barron

But Obama was a tyrant…..

/

Who knew the English language had so many words for black?

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:00:39am

Sigh. I wonder what Merrick Garland is up to these days?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:01:05am

re: #277 JordanRules

Sigh. I wonder what Merrick Garland is up to these days?

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Still at his old job I believe. Unbelievable isn’t it?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:01:28am

One wonders what could embolden those committing these acts
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Cheechako  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:01:51am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why do they need passports? PR is part of the USA.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:01:51am

re: #279 FormerDirtDart

One wonders what could embolden those committing these acts
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Fuck.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:03:36am
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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:04:25am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:05:53am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

Are they planning on taking funding distribution and signup operations out of Trump’s hands?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:07:00am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart

No presidency has accomplished as much as my Administration. Great reviews. Everyone says so.

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Skip Intro  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:07:58am

re: #285 Sir John Barron

No presidency has accomplished as much as my Administration. Great reviews. Everyone says so.

HIGHEST RATINGS EVER!!!!!!

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:10:03am

re: #263 I cannot.

He probably isn’t this time.

I bet this is Miller just being a sadistic dick.

Passports show citizenship. Without them you can starve the citizen and throw them to ICE, The American Gestapo.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:10:17am

Hey, just FYI, I’m seeing ads for InfoWars overpriced vitamins on this site now.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:11:32am

re: #176 Sir John Barron

I’ve been absorbed the past week with cat care. My oldest feline went OTRB yesterday. I’d had him for almost 16 years, and he may have been as old as 20. He’d been declining for some time, but the end was still a little more sudden and more confusing than I would have preferred. But it’s done and he’s at rest now.

And The Orange Fuhrer used this time to issue a Papal Bull regarding NFL football games and the proper posture of “respect” he believes should be granted to the flag during the playing of the national anthem.

At this pace I’m not sure how the country gets through the next three years.

I was just thinking about the fear that Trump is a divide and conquer type. But it seems like it isn’t just about dividing major groups. He seems to have fractured the entire American society into individual tiny pieces that are now fighting each other for a smaller piece of the pie.

The flag/anthem thing is a great example. When friends and family split up and fight over it all it makes each person beging to feel like they are on their own.

Not only will it be tough to get through Trump Times, it is going to be even harder to gather all the pieces and get them back together into some kind of a cohesive unity.

Goddamn Donald J. Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:21:51am

he really has no fucking clue

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:22:58am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

he really has no fucking clue

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He’s probably just repeating what someone told him. He doesn’t stop to discern whether what he’s being told is total horseshit.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:25:09am

So, I found a few episodes of Sea Tales on YouTube, an old show on the History Channel, from 1997.

And you know…….it’s kind of sad. Not the stories per se, but in that it represents what the History Channel used to be.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:25:34am

re: #289 ObserverArt

I was just thinking about the fear that Trump is a divide and conquer type. But it seems like it isn’t just about dividing major groups. He seems to have fractured the entire American society into individual tiny pieces that are now fighting each other for a smaller piece of the pie.

The flag/anthem thing is a great example. When friends and family split up and fight over it all it makes each person beging to feel like they are on their own.

Not only will it be tough to get through Trump Times, it is going to be even harder to gather all the pieces and get them back together into some kind of a cohesive unity.

Goddamn Donald J. Trump.

Remember, the kneeling thing occurred before Trump.

Trump is a symptom of the Republican party. These are things that we’ve kind of been sitting on for the last 30 or so years. Now we have to deal with them.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:26:06am

re: #291 Dr Lizardo

Yup. It’s what he does. Remember this?

“I was given that information,” Trump said in response. “Actually, I’ve seen that information around. But it was a very substantial victory. Do you agree with that?”

thehill.com

/edited for clarity

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:26:08am

re: #292 Dr Lizardo

So, I found a few episodes of Sea Tales on YouTube, an old show on the History Channel, from 1997.

And you know…….it’s kind of sad. Not the stories per se, but in that it represents what the History Channel used to be.

It really is too bad because the old history channel stimulated my imagination. It truly was “Where the past came alive.”

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:26:58am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:27:10am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

It really is too bad because the old history channel stimulated my imagination. It truly was “Where the past came alive.”

Yeah, exactly. It really was about history. Now it’s about a lot of woowoo and other assorted bullshit.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:27:27am

re: #292 Dr Lizardo

So, I found a few episodes of Sea Tales on YouTube, an old show on the History Channel, from 1997.

And you know…….it’s kind of sad. Not the stories per se, but in that it represents what the History Channel used to be.

The History and Science channels are the clearest results of what happens when you require everything to make a profit.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:28:04am

re: #283 lawhawk

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Fuck…seriously? We have to go through this shit AGAIN?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:28:15am

re: #296 MsJ

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Can’t someone in our intel agencies just Stuxnet the ever-living fuck out of Russia’s internet?

Take the SOB’s offline. Shut ‘em down. Banks, comms, everything.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:28:30am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

Large number. How many? Quantify? You know, those are the kinds of things that stand up to scrutiny. 10? 100? 1000? What size generators? Enough to power a single home or one that can power a hospital?

3.5 million are without power. How many generators does it take to restore hospitals? How many supermarkets have power? How many gas stations? Fuel depots? All need power and are critical to get up and running.

Large numbers suggests Trump doesn’t know, and he’s bluffing his way through yet another critical issue.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:30:32am

sigh…

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:30:44am

Typical ethical conflicts of Trump appointees
Thread

Rest of thread behind the button

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:31:28am
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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:31:34am

re: #298 Belafon

I just remembered that TLC used to be The Learning Channel.
What a decline for all of them.

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terraincognita  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:31:52am

His mouth is moving; his fingers are tweeting. Trump is lying, but we all know that even his cronies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:33:10am
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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:33:46am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sigh…

Just more efficient usages of tax payer money.

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:33:55am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:34:36am

re: #235 Belafon

It’s the exotic, and possibly a bit of domination. Think Jefferson and Sally Jennings. Think football fans and black players.

Yep. There are cosmetic companies in Japan selling products to give young women the “hafu” look, supposedly (a friend posted a picture from a billboard, but I can’t remember the exact product—it wasn’t for skin darkening, if you get my drift).

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:36:09am

re: #305 JordanRules

I just remembered that TLC used to be The Learning Channel.
What a decline for all of them.

Learning—there’s no money in it.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:36:13am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:36:39am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, exactly. It really was about history. Now it’s about a lot of woowoo and other assorted bullshit.

Even the stuff about ghosts they had was historical snce folklore is history too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:38:26am

re: #309 JordanRules

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Fiscal conservatism has come to mean tax cuts at the expense of everything else and that’s not what fiscal conservatism is.

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William Lewis  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:38:49am

re: #292 Dr Lizardo

So, I found a few episodes of Sea Tales on YouTube, an old show on the History Channel, from 1997.

And you know…….it’s kind of sad. Not the stories per se, but in that it represents what the History Channel used to be.

I really get depressed about TV when I run into an old episode of Discovery Wings…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:38:56am

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

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I appreciate his honesty but fuck him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:39:37am

One of my favorite shows on history was Great Spy Stories.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:40:02am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:41:08am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Coming from an Ayn Rand fan.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:43:52am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Even the stuff about ghosts they had was historical snce folklore is history too.

I have no problem with that when it’s presented as folklore. I do have a problem when it’s presented as “science”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:48:10am

re: #320 Dr Lizardo

I have no problem with that when it’s presented as folklore. I do have a problem when it’s presented as “science”.

Exactly.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:48:12am

re: #310 Barefoot Grin

Yep. There are cosmetic companies in Japan selling products to give young women the “hafu” look, supposedly (a friend posted a picture from a billboard, but I can’t remember the exact product—it wasn’t for skin darkening, if you get my drift).

Remember the ganguro trend? LOL

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danarchy  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:49:03am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Isn’t it? What a great guy. Last week I was just rooting for him because I hate the NE Patriots but Watson seems like a great dude. I think he’s going to be a good one. A winner on and off the field.

Man all the NE hate. I guess when you are the greatest of all time people get jealous ;)

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:50:21am

re: #213 electrotek

This flies in the face of the “white genocide” crowd who argue that diversity is killing off what makes us supposedly unique.

I’m familiar with the Uighurs and the repression they’ve gone through since 1949. Don’t like what China is doing in Xinjiang by encouraging more Han settlement to dilute Uighurs of their presence and numbers. It should be celebrated instead of repressed. I’m concerned about how many Uighurs will end up becoming more radicalized as a reaction to the repression and make things a lot worse for the province.

Ironically, the Beijing government uses “anti-radicalization” as the primary reason for its increasing suppression of Uyghur culture and religion, which a lot like pouring gasoline on a fire, trying to put it out. ISIS has made some inroads in recruiting Uyghurs, and the government uses those few examples to justify police-state regulation and control. Men can’t grow out their beards. Women can’t be veiled. Government workers who are Muslim cannot fast during Ramadan. Uyghurs cannot get passports to leave the country (Supposedly. One of my students was able to study in Turkey two years ago.) Security police are also supposedly collecting DNA samples of Uyghurs in Xinjiang. The Internet in the province is even more tightly locked down than anywhere else in China but Tibet. And there is a prevailing prejudice against Uyghurs because of their religion and because they don’t look “Chinese.”

Sound familiar?

Anecdotally, most of the Uyghur students I know major in business, maths, science, and IT, and do quite well at them. And most benefit from scholarships offered by the Chinese government to attend uni outside Xinjiang. I’m sure you can guess the advantages to the government to educate Xinjiang youth outside their home province.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:51:04am

re: #322 electrotek

Remember the ganguro trend? LOL

Oh, lord. But I did kind of like the idea that they were acting out a feminist critique by exaggerating makeup and fashion almost clownishly. Like, “oh, here’s what I think of your beauty standards!” In truth, I doubt much thought went into it at all. Just wanted to be chō beri baddo!

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:53:53am

re: #325 Barefoot Grin

Oh, lord. But I did kind of like the idea that they were acting out a feminist critique by exaggerating makeup and fashion almost clownishly. Like, “oh, here’s what I think of your beauty standards!” In truth, I doubt much thought went into it at all. Just wanted to be chō beri baddo!

I hated how so many people thought of Japanese society as a whole with the ganguro girls. So glad it was pretty much gone by the time I visited, which made for a pleasant visit lol

You see social media posts about Japan and they think it’s weird because they conflate places like Harajuku with the rest of the country when that’s really not the case.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:54:14am

been travelling by car for the last couple of days and in too much pain to even look at the computer.

Did I miss anything important that wasn’t broadcast on Fox radio?

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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:54:50am

re: #325 Barefoot Grin

Oh, lord. But I did kind of like the idea that they were acting out a feminist critique by exaggerating makeup and fashion almost clownishly. Like, “oh, here’s what I think of your beauty standards!” In truth, I doubt much thought went into it at all. Just wanted to be chō beri baddo!

Like Fox News Barbie dolls?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:55:48am

Fuck Trump. So pissed at charging people to leave PR. I’m going to have to yell at anyone that defends this policy.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:55:57am

re: #324 wheat-dogg

Ironically, the Beijing government uses “anti-radicalization” as the primary reason for its increasing suppression of Uyghur culture and religion, which a lot like pouring gasoline on a fire, trying to put it out. ISIS has made some inroads in recruiting Uyghurs, and the government uses those few examples to justify police-state regulation and control. Men can’t grow out their beards. Women can’t be veiled. Government workers who are Muslim cannot fast during Ramadan. Uyghurs cannot get passports to leave the country (Supposedly. One of my students was able to study in Turkey two years ago.) Security police are also supposedly collecting DNA samples of Uyghurs in Xinjiang. The Internet in the province is even more tightly locked down than anywhere else in China but Tibet. And there is a prevailing prejudice against Uyghurs because of their religion and because they don’t look “Chinese.”

Sound familiar?

Anecdotally, most of the Uyghur students I know major in business, maths, science, and IT, and do quite well at them. And most benefit from scholarships offered by the Chinese government to attend uni outside Xinjiang. I’m sure you can guess the advantages to the government to educate Xinjiang youth outside their home province.

Yup, very spot on.

Ironic is that Uighurs weren’t really religious people, but they definitely adopted religious extremism purely as a reaction to Chinese repression (the veiling, the big bushy beards, etc.).

You’d figure the viable solution is to relax the draconian laws and encourage more communication between the Han and Uighurs instead of segregation. I highly doubt the Han mingle with the Uighurs much in Urumqi.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:56:49am

a new follower on twitter posted this. I might follow back

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:57:51am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

What’s their food like? And the lady on the image is beautiful.

Not at all like Chinese food. Heavy on noodles and naan-like bread, fish, chicken, lamb, some hot peppers but not as much as Hunan or Sichuan cuisine. It’s not quite like Greek or Lebanese food, but that would be the closest kind of cuisine I’m familiar with, anyway.

Most Chinese cities have a “Muslim quarter,” where you can find shawarma and other delicacies. But they may be populated by the Hui minority, which is also Muslim but more closely related to the Han genetically. In other words, they look “Chinese” and not Caucasian. The Hui originated mostly in the interior parts of China, but close to the ancient Silk Road.

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CongoJack  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:57:54am

re: #323 danarchy

Or because NE cheats… a lot. Whether it be the visiting teams audio going out (and miraculously comes back when the NFL goes over to the Patriots sideline (and then back off afterwards - video of Tomlin - youtube)

And anyone who visits NE had their hotel fire alarm pulled (which has happened to the Broncos and Chiefs the last few years - not certain about this year).

Not to mention the illegal video taping of other teams practices etc… deflated footballs.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:58:05am

re: #331 Birth Control Works

a new follower on twitter posted this. I might follow back

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Too soon for a joke about humps?

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 9:59:32am

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gocart mozart  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:00:06am

re: #311 Barefoot Grin

When ‘The Learning Channel’ started, it was wall-to-wall documentaries and science programs then they discovered they could make more money broadcasting stupid shit and you know the rest. Same thing happened with A&E which back in the 80’s would broadcast classical music and EVEN opera! The History Channel had actual history programs (albeit to much Hitler) and now it’s all Ancient Aliens, ghosts and Nostradumbasses.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:00:07am

re: #328 Birth Control Works

Like Fox News Barbie dolls?

More like Tammy Faye Baker.

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:00:12am

re: #329 I Would Prefer Not To

Don’t forget the juxtaposition of his cabinet jet setting around.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:00:14am

re: #234 electrotek

The Chinese finding a niche with Uighurs reminds me of the Japanese modeling agencies doing the same with their hafus. It’s such a dichotomy, as hafus aren’t exactly respected in Japanese society but have no problem with their looks being in demand on the catwalk and product campaigns.

It’s weird.

Wasn’t the last Miss Japan a “hafu?” She’s commented about the prejudice she encountered growing up.

340
Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:00:18am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:01:28am

re: #323 danarchy

Man all the NE hate. I guess when you are the greatest of all time people get jealous ;)

I ought to like the Patriots, but some of the stuff they do to win is a bit like putting up signs that say “Polls are closed today, come back tomorrow.”

343
Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:02:02am

re: #337 Barefoot Grin

More like Tammy Faye Baker.

ah

344
Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:02:25am

re: #334 I Would Prefer Not To

Too soon for a joke about humps?

nah

345
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:04:54am

Wow, that thing about charging evacuees is so fucked up…

346
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:05:19am

re: #336 gocart mozart

When ‘The Learning Channel’ started, it was wall-to-wall documentaries and science programs then they discovered they could make more money broadcasting stupid shit and you know the rest. Same thing happened with A&E which back in the 80’s would broadcast classical music and EVEN opera! The History Channel had actual history programs (albeit to much Hitler) and now it’s all Ancient Aliens, ghosts and Nostradumbasses.

I remember when The Learning Channel started, one could take actual college courses for credit.

347
Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:06:24am

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember when The Learning Channel started, one could take actual college courses for credit.

Then they found they could actually turn a profit catering to the lowest common denominator.

348
JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:06:35am

What a picture.

349
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:08:26am
350
Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:09:44am

I love all these comments of “find some other way to protest—you could easily protest on Monday—don’t do it during the anthem.” Here’s the deal: this conversation means it’s FUCKING WORKING. No one would give a shit or pay attention of they protested on Monday. And frankly, the time between games is when the real work gets done in terms of community outreach that I know for a fact is occurring in multiple NFL cities across the country (contra the assholes that say to stop kneeling and DO SOMETHING).

My other fave: The protest has been coopted and isn’t even sending the same message any more. The fuck it isn’t. It starts over protesting police brutality as an example of systemic racism. Now, you have a rich white, racist asshole occupying the White House telling black athletes to sit down, shut up, or get fired for daring to point out that race relations in the US aren’t at kumbaya levels or even approaching it. So the athletes, in turn, stage a larger protest. Ya, protesting in response to the comments of a white supremacist who is effectively stating “we let you have some money, now shut the fuck up and get to the back of the bus before we take it away” is TOTALLY not the same as Kaep and Reid’s initial protest.

I have so had it with this shit.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:09:50am

OMG! while forced listening to Fox News in the car, they broadcast a presser about the Fed Indightment of individuals involved in a pay to play in the NBA -Adidas etc.

Fox people then proceed to talk about the NFL …ad infinitum. Day after day after day.

Who the fuck cares.

352
Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:10:00am

re: #334 I Would Prefer Not To

Too soon for a joke about humps?

First thing that came to my mind

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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:10:46am

re: #352 Eventual Carrion

First thing that came to my mind

It was the “love” sounds for me.

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:10:54am

re: #334 I Would Prefer Not To

Too soon for a joke about humps?

Actually, yesterday would have been a better day for them…

355
I cannot.  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:11:27am

re: #331 Birth Control Works

But…its Thursday.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:11:46am

re: #350 Mike Lamb

I love all these comments of “find some other way to protest—you could easily protest on Monday—don’t do it during the anthem.”

Wingnut football fans suddenly very snowflakey.

357
Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:11:57am

Nine spammers opened accounts last night and tried to post LGF Pages. Denied and suspended.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:14:42am

re: #355 I cannot.

But…its Thursday.

Somewhere on the other side of the international date line, it is Wednesday.

359
wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:15:10am

re: #330 electrotek

Yup, very spot on.

Ironic is that Uighurs weren’t really religious people, but they definitely adopted religious extremism purely as a reaction to Chinese repression (the veiling, the big bushy beards, etc.).

You’d figure the viable solution is to relax the draconian laws and encourage more communication between the Han and Uighurs instead of segregation. I highly doubt the Han mingle with the Uighurs much in Urumqi.

Hardly at all. The Han congregate in the newly built neighborhoods, and the Uighurs in the old neighborhoods. There’s a lot of mistrust between the two groups, to say the least.

It’s probably been mentioned here before, but the Han Chinese consider themselves superior to everyone else in every way, and they try to gaslight the population to make sure that myth remains unchallenged. The “5,000-year history” so often referred to glosses over the invasions and dynasties begun by the Mongols and the Manchu, who had as much to do with Chinese history as the Han. Chinese scientists push the theory that there was parallel evolution in China, so that Chinese can imagine they are not descended from prehistoric African migrants. (Genetically, they are, but fossil records can be creatively analyzed to argue otherwise.)

At the same time, the Chinese people envy Western culture and young women elect to have cosmetic surgery to get “double eyelids,” IOW “Western” eyelids.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:15:28am

Okay regading the “charging evacuees from Puerto Rico” story, it looks like most of the reports originated with a story from Marketwatch that was merely quoting standard State Dept. policy for certain types of evacuations.

The fact Puerto Rico is in the U.S. Should mean this policy doesn’t apply to them.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:16:13am

re: #350 Mike Lamb

I love all these comments of “find some other way to protest—you could easily protest on Monday—don’t do it during the anthem.” Here’s the deal: this conversation means it’s FUCKING WORKING. No one would give a shit or pay attention of they protested on Monday. And frankly, the time between games is when the real work gets done in terms of community outreach that I know for a fact is occurring in multiple NFL cities across the country (contra the assholes that say to stop kneeling and DO SOMETHING).

My other fave: The protest has been coopted and isn’t even sending the same message any more. The fuck it isn’t. It starts over protesting police brutality as an example of systemic racism. Now, you have a rich white, racist asshole occupying the White House telling black athletes to sit down, shut up, or get fired for daring to point out that race relations in the US aren’t at kumbaya levels or even approaching it. So the athletes, in turn, stage a larger protest. Ya, protesting in response to the comments of a white supremacist who is effectively stating “we let you have some money, now shut the fuck up and get to the back of the bus before we take it away” is TOTALLY not the same as Kaep and Reid’s initial protest.

I have so had it with this shit.

Actually the protests had been pretty small until Drumpf opened his fat ugly mouth. Kaep isn’t even in the league.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:16:48am

re: #358 Birth Control Works

Somewhere on the other side of the international date line, it is Wednesday.

Only in my time machine story.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:18:44am

re: #359 wheat-dogg

Hardly at all. The Han congregate in the newly built neighborhoods, and the Uighurs in the old neighborhoods. There’s a lot of mistrust between the two groups, to say the least.

It’s probably been mentioned here before, but the Han Chinese consider themselves superior to everyone else in every way, and they try to gaslight the population to make sure that myth remains unchallenged. The “5,000-year history” so often referred to glosses over the invasions and dynasties begun by the Mongols and the Manchu, who had as much to do with Chinese history as the Han. Chinese scientists push the theory that there was parallel evolution in China, so that Chinese can imagine they are not descended from prehistoric African migrants. (Genetically, they are, but fossil records can be creatively analyzed to argue otherwise.)

At the same time, the Chinese people envy Western culture and young women elect to have cosmetic surgery to get “double eyelids,” IOW “Western” eyelids.

The mental gymnastics people will do to ignore our common origin. Afrika!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:20:50am
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sagehen  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:21:44am

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, that thing about charging evacuees is so fucked up…

They don’t want or need or care about the money, but it’s an excuse to confiscate passports. So if a bunch of those Puerto Ricans stick around the new place they’ve evac’d to, they won’t have proper ID to register to vote.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:22:15am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

State Dep refutes PR promissory note story.

I’d like to know where that came from in the first place - whether it’s trolling, or they’re backing off because people were horrified.

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CongoJack  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:24:05am

re: #366 makeitstop

They can back of the PR promissory note - but are they backing off the passport claims?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:24:12am

This morning Trump decided to waive the Jones Act.

For 10 days.

Yep, that should be long enough to make a difference…
*spit*

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:24:29am
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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:24:38am

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay regading the “charging evacuees from Puerto Rico” story, it looks like most of the reports originated with a story from Marketwatch that was merely quoting standard State Dept. policy for certain types of evacuations.

The fact Puerto Rico is in the U.S. Should mean this policy doesn’t apply to them.

Thanks for digging on that one.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:26:22am

re: #369 makeitstop

At least we don’t have to worry about him running as a Democrat.

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:27:42am

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:28:14am

re: #363 Birth Control Works

The mental gymnastics people will do to ignore our common origin. Afrika!

The genetic code doesn’t lie. Now the geneticists say there were two migrations out of Africa, several tens of thousands of years apart, which took different routes to spread across the world. IIRC, the earlier migration followed the Mediterranean coast into Asia Minor and then Europe, while the second migration crossed over the southern edge of the Arabian peninsula and gradually moved east toward Asia and Oceania.

But both groups originated in Africa, that much is undeniable.

I suspect Creationists hold so dearly to their mythical creation story because it enables them to deny they descend from “black” Africans. The OT rather has the blacks descending from Noah, who as we all know was as white as snow, just like Adam and Eve. //

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:28:53am

re: #359 wheat-dogg

Hardly at all. The Han congregate in the newly built neighborhoods, and the Uighurs in the old neighborhoods. There’s a lot of mistrust between the two groups, to say the least.

It’s probably been mentioned here before, but the Han Chinese consider themselves superior to everyone else in every way, and they try to gaslight the population to make sure that myth remains unchallenged. The “5,000-year history” so often referred to glosses over the invasions and dynasties begun by the Mongols and the Manchu, who had as much to do with Chinese history as the Han. Chinese scientists push the theory that there was parallel evolution in China, so that Chinese can imagine they are not descended from prehistoric African migrants. (Genetically, they are, but fossil records can be creatively analyzed to argue otherwise.)

At the same time, the Chinese people envy Western culture and young women elect to have cosmetic surgery to get “double eyelids,” IOW “Western” eyelids.

How the fuck do the Communist-led party expect social cohesion and harmony if there’s that much fucking separation between the two? I know it goes both ways since there are some Uighurs who are hesitant on learning Mandarin but it seems that a lot of it was forced upon them by the Han elite.

That being said, I wouldn’t say China is anti-Muslim since the Hui are awarded generous privileges that make Uighurs blush with envy. It also doesn’t help that Hui are also becoming more despised (if not already) by the Uighurs who see Huis as collaborators with the Han establishment.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:28:57am

Yay, dailykos.com:

Following immense public pressure, U.S. officials will finally allow the sister—and perfect stem cell donor match—of a California woman fighting leukemia to come to the United States for a lifesaving transplant.

U.S. officials had three times denied Thuy Nguyen permission to come to America to help save her sister’s life, despite multiple hospitals attesting that Helen Huynh’s cancer was aggressive and she had no time to spare. Officials callously believed Thuy wouldn’t return to Vietnam after the procedure.

Late Wednesday night, Congressman Alan Lowenthal called the family to let them know officials had relented and approved Thuy’s humanitarian parole, clearing the way for her arrival. One of Helen’s daughters has already left for Vietnam to help escort her aunt to the United States.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:31:02am

I know not everyone here follows (or cares) about sportspuck, but with the Penguins’ decision to go visit the Chief Racist, there’s been a lot more interest than normal in what some of the other players are thinking about the protests.

There aren’t a lot of black players in the NHL - as has been discussed before, hockey tends to white, upper-middle class guys, at least for the player base. (Because hockey equipment is expensive, and if you’re serious about it, you’re typically talking private schools, etc.) But there are a few, and one of them plays for my local team. There’s been a lot of interest in what he was going to do and today he released a statement. Full disclosure, I have massive amounts of respect for him and think this did an excellent job of walking what must feel like a very fine line to him. He’s currently a top candidate for me to get a jersey of this year. (He wears 42, deliberately.)

(Images behind the spoiler for Belafon and anyone else who can’t get to Twitter.)

377
Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:31:30am

re: #372 JordanRules

Yesterday: Trump is right to not wave the Jones Act because it protects American jobs and MAGA!

Today: See how much Trump is MAGA? He waved the Jones Act that was passed because Obama.

378
retired cynic  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:31:55am

We hear so much about men in sports protesting, but Nancy Letourneau in Washington Monthly has more from the women’s side.

379
Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:32:53am

Oh to be a fly on the golf cart

380
wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:33:30am

re: #374 electrotek

How the fuck do the Communist-led party expect social cohesion and harmony if there’s that much fucking separation between the two? I know it goes both ways since there are some Uighurs who are hesitant on learning Mandarin but it seems that a lot of it was forced upon them by the Han elite.

That being said, I wouldn’t say China is anti-Muslim since the Hui are awarded generous privileges that make Uighurs blush with envy. It also doesn’t help that Hui are also becoming more despised (if not already) by the Uighurs who see Huis as collaborators with the Han establishment.

The Hui tend to keep a low profile, because they’ve been living among the Han much longer than the Uyghurs in Xinjiang. As for learning Mandarin, everyone has to learn it in school. It’s China’s common language. Otherwise, even Han from different parts of China would be unable to understand each other. My students tell me that their roommates can speak to their moms on the phone and be completely unintelligible to anyone else in the dorm.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:34:51am

re: #379 Stanley Sea

Oh to be a fly on the golf cart

[Embedded content]

I find it fascinating that these three guys seem to get along so well together.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:35:22am

re: #380 wheat-dogg

The Hui tend to keep a low profile, because they’ve been living among the Han much longer than the Uyghurs in Xinjiang. As for learning Mandarin, everyone has to learn it in school. It’s China’s common language. Otherwise, even Han from different parts of China would be unable to understand each other. My students tell me that their roommates can speak to their moms on the phone and be completely unintelligible to anyone else in the dorm.

I have to dig up a post I made about a Uighur student who wrote a nuanced understanding of how Uighurs should live in China, it was a couple of years back…sometime in early 2015 is all I can remember.

Let me dig it up and I’ll repost the link.

383
sagehen  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:36:57am

re: #376 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There aren’t a lot of black players in the NHL - as has been discussed before, hockey tends to white, upper-middle class guys, at least for the player base. (Because hockey equipment is expensive, and if you’re serious about it, you’re typically talking private schools, etc.)

[Embedded content]

It was my understanding that there aren’t a lot of American players in the NHL, that they’re mostly Canadians.

Or is that an outdated generalization?

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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:37:24am

re: #373 wheat-dogg

The genetic code doesn’t lie. Now the geneticists say there were two migrations out of Africa, several tens of thousands of years apart, which took different routes to spread across the world. IIRC, the earlier migration followed the Mediterranean coast into Asia Minor and then Europe, while the second migration crossed over the southern edge of the Arabian peninsula and gradually moved east toward Asia and Oceania.

But both groups originated in Africa, that much is undeniable.

I suspect Creationists hold so dearly to their mythical creation story because it enables them to deny they descend from “black” Africans. The OT rather has the blacks descending from Noah, who as we all know was as white as snow, just like Adam and Eve. //

I just don’t get it. But I guess I”m in the minority as most people seem to cling to their myths as if their life depended on it.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:38:35am

re: #381 wheat-dogg

I find it fascinating that these three guys seem to get along so well together.

The yam will never, ever fit in.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:38:40am

re: #375 Belafon

Yay, dailykos.com:

I’m really tired of this idea that our borders are sacrosanct.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:39:33am

re: #382 electrotek

I have to dig up a post I made about a Uighur student who wrote a nuanced understanding of how Uighurs should live in China, it was a couple of years back…sometime in early 2015 is all I can remember.

Let me dig it up and I’ll repost the link.

Found it

Probably paywall’d by now.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:39:49am

re: #383 sagehen

It was my understanding that there aren’t a lot of American players in the NHL, that they’re mostly Canadians.

Or is that an outdated generalization?

Depends on the team. The majority of players aren’t American (although I think we’re up to like ~30% now or something) and of those, the majority are Canadian. But there’s a bunch from Europe, Russia, etc. - the NHL is the undisputed king of the leagues so they get their pick. My team had ~5 American players on the starting roster last year (including our captain).

That said, Joel Ward is from Canada.

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sagehen  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:39:51am

re: #383 sagehen

It was my understanding that there aren’t a lot of American players in the NHL, that they’re mostly Canadians.

Or is that an outdated generalization?

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:40:47am

re: #381 wheat-dogg

I find it fascinating that these three guys seem to get along so well together.

I don’t think it’s that surprising. Clinton appears to be able to get along with anyone. Obama seems pretty similar if not quite so folksy. W also looks to be pretty friendly. While W was a goddamned political disaster, I don’t find that he was mean spirited.

Because of that, you have 3 guys that can get along provided (guessing here) they don’t get into political discussions too deeply (also helps that W was opposed to Trump Trump support is now something that can’t be bridged or forgiven).

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:40:58am
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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:41:27am

re: #379 Stanley Sea

Oh to be a fly on the golf cart

[Embedded content]

I bet the mostly talked about their kids and grandkids

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:41:44am

re: #384 Birth Control Works

I just don’t get it. But I guess I”m in the minority as most people seem to cling to their myths as if their life depended on it.

There is some security in “just so” stories, and every ethnic group seems to have at least one to justify their superiority over other groups.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:42:01am

re: #381 wheat-dogg

I find it fascinating that these three guys seem to get along so well together.

They are members of an elite club.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:45:53am

For anyone looking to grab a SNES Classic:

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terraincognita  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:46:26am

re: #394 Birth Control Works

They are members of an elite club.

Trump will never be a part of that club. He is an aberration; a low sub-caste that will be ignored by all the former presidents.

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JordanRules  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:47:18am

re: #394 Birth Control Works

Yes, extremely elite. There is so much that only they get and can talk about even without a partisan bent.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:47:55am

Al Jazeera report on the Cambodian immigrants being deported because of crimes they’ve committed. One guy only broke some windows in a bar.

Forced Back To Cambodia - 101 East

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:49:45am

re: #395 electrotek

I still have my actual one. ;)

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:50:51am

re: #399 GlutenFreeJesus

I still have my actual one. ;)

I never got one, only had a Sega Genesis which I still have.

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scottslemmons  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:54:23am

re: #395 electrotek

For anyone looking to grab a SNES Classic:

[Embedded content]

We had the Pong home console and the TI-99/4A. In fact, we still have them in a storage room. They both still worked last time we plugged them in, but that’s been a few years ago…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:57:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:58:12am
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Birth Control Works  Sep 28, 2017 • 10:59:25am

Requiem for Zeitgeist By Kurt Vonnegut

A newly discovered short story, published here for the first time anywhere.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:01:44am

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think Democrats need to file something about this, though I’m not sure what. Impeachment isn’t going to happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:02:21am

Parkway High School might want to take a few minutes to check out a certain past SCOTUS decision…

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:02:42am

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Edging ever closer to an authoritarian government, where the judiciary is in the pockets of big business and the other branches of government.

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Kragar  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:03:45am
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KGxvi  Sep 28, 2017 • 11:07:52am

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

I played high school sports (water polo and swimming), there was maybe one game/meet a year where they played the national anthem before the game. I don’t think I ever remember seeing it before football games. But then that was in the ’90s before the war times…


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St. Vincent Performs ‘Los Ageless’ One of Stephen's very favorite singer-songwriters collaborates with three pairs of boots to perform a song off her new album "Masseduction". Subscribe To "The Late Show" Channel HERE: bit.lyFor more content from "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert", click ...
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Trailer (Official) Watch the new trailer for Star Wars: The Last Jedi and see it in theaters December 15. Get your tickets now: fandango.com Visit Star Wars at starwars.comSubscribe to Star Wars on YouTube at youtube.comLike Star Wars on Facebook at ...
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