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Please forgive me for going OT right away. A favor from my peeps on Twitter…
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Thanks for the neat data in the prior thread about the star collision.
Side note: my wife is starting to have contractions. So my kid is not far away from being born. Thus I am heading out. I’ll have a baby picture in tow the next time I am here hopefully :).
Trump boasts that his right wing judicial appointments will have “consequences 40 years out.” https://t.co/9VQBfkQola pic.twitter.com/Md4dBgWYCL
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 16, 2017
I’m so sick and tired of this “winning” or whatever it is.
re: #3 Charles Johnson
Trump boasts that his right wing judicial appointments will have “consequences 40 years out.”
Which means that even if we get rid of him tomorrow, it will take decades to undo the damage
re: #3 Charles Johnson
He’s not wrong. These assholes will be hurting the country for decades.
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 16, 2017
re: #5 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Which means that even if we get rid of him tomorrow, it will take decades to undo the damage
The nutters he’s been appointed could be impeached for gross incompetence if we had sensible elected officials.
So we’re going to be stuck with them for years
Trump just repeated the outright lie that the US is “the highest taxed country in the world.” AGAIN. https://t.co/9VQBfkyNtC pic.twitter.com/KJTUwSTgq6
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 16, 2017
re: #3 Charles Johnson
40 years, if we’re lucky.
re: #8 Charles Johnson
Trump just repeated the outright lie that the US is “the highest taxed country in the world.” AGAIN.
Presidents who disseminate Fake News should have their licences revoked…
Trump says he’ll formally declare an opioid emergency “next week,” down from the usual two weeks.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 16, 2017
re: #3 Charles Johnson
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Second true statement I can remember him saying.
(First being that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and they would still support him.)
re: #3 Charles Johnson
Fact check: TRUE.
Elections have consequences, and this is the most far reaching consequence.
Trump inserted Gorsuch into the stolen seat. That’s the highest profile position, but there are judicial nominations across the federal judiciary, and they’re stacking them with know-nothing regressives, or those intent on sabotaging functioning government and bringing a reversal to civil and voting rights as well as abortion and birth control access.
The GOP is rubber stamping all this because they think they get to win the culture war and put blacks and minorities back in their rightful place.
re: #3 Charles Johnson
Of course he does. It’s the reason that the people who want a dark age voted for him.
re: #11 FormerDirtDart
Trump says he’ll formally declare an opioid emergency “next week,” down from the usual two weeks.
— Daniel Dale
So, it’s not an emergency this week, but probably will be next week?
/
“Our social guys worked hard to build an authentic following,” Roy Moore spox tells me after declining to discuss Russian bots. #ALSEN pic.twitter.com/w65v7c9TJ3
— Philip Wegmann (@PhilipWegmann) October 16, 2017
re: #8 Charles Johnson
Since we know that Drumpster Fire doesn’t pay taxes on his yuuuuuge billions of dollars, who is it that is paying all these highest taxes in the world?
Not a single reporter at this press conference called him out on this lie.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 16, 2017
re: #15 Sir John Barron
Didn’t he try to do that before, but it got derailed because of his team’s utter corruption and incompetence?
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 16, 2017
re: #18 Charles Johnson
Not a single reporter at this press conference called him out on this lie.
If any reporters should have their licences revoked, it is ones like that…
Asked about the soldiers killed in Niger, Trump says, “I’ve written them personal letters.” ?! https://t.co/9VQBfkQola pic.twitter.com/S2wXBfjbC0
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 16, 2017
re: #19 Kragar
From back in August
Here it is.https://t.co/PpIjiBosS9
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 16, 2017
re: #21 Charles Johnson
That’s just his language skills failing because of the dementia. It’s time to put Grandpa in a home.
What a fucking child
Correct. There was no such thing as “Obamacare” in the first place. It’s the ACA and it’s still the law.
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) October 16, 2017
Trump sees dead people…. He wrote them personal letters.
Trump sees the US with highest tax rates in world. US has below average effective tax rates on corporations and individuals. Total tax burden is lower here than the average - OECD stats make that abundantly clear.
Trump lies about taxes, and that’s easily debunked because his positions are so extreme, and yet media doesn’t challenge him.
Trump lies about everything, and the media just sits there as hagiographers. They don’t do journalism. They just regurgitate what Trump’s spewing.
You can’t tell me that none of those reporters know anything about the taxes or other issues.
JUST IN: Trump on Niger KIAs: “I’ve written them personal letters” this weekend …I will at some point…call the parents.
— Kevin Baron (@DefenseBaron) October 16, 2017
Trump says he prefers to call troop KIA families “when it’s appropriate.” Letters will be going out “either today or tomorrow.” #Niger https://t.co/nHD752TIp2
— Kevin Baron (@DefenseBaron) October 16, 2017
re: #26 Dr. Matt
Its important to remember that it was the GOP sabotaging the implementation of the ACA which led to the premium increases
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 16, 2017
I can’t stand the sound of his nasal, whining voice.
re: #28 FormerDirtDart
What are U.S. troops doing in Niger anyway? UN peacekeeping?
??
In a really ghastly lie, Trump says that Obama, unlike him, didn’t call the families of dead soldiers.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 16, 2017
Mitch standing there looks like he swallowed a dog turd.
re: #28 FormerDirtDart
Trump says he prefers to call troop KIA families “when it’s appropriate.” Letters will be going out “either today or tomorrow.”
The check is in the mail!
that’s a fucking lie. to say president obama (or past presidents) didn’t call the family members of soldiers KIA - he’s a deranged animal.
— Alyssa Mastromonaco (@AlyssaMastro44) October 16, 2017
Former WH aide on Trump’s claim Obama and other presidents didn’t call families of fallen soldiers https://t.co/Knlbw4qSqX
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) October 16, 2017
re: #31 Sir John Barron
What are U.S. troops doing in Niger anyway? UN peacekeeping?
Special Forces ops
re: #20 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Those are the people who should have their licences revoked…
They’ll have their access revoked if they speak truth to power. We need laws that determine who is in the press room, rather than the whims of a despot.
that’s a fucking lie. to say president obama (or past presidents) didn’t call the family members of soldiers KIA - he’s a deranged animal.
— Alyssa Mastromonaco (@AlyssaMastro44) October 16, 2017
re: #37 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
They’ll have their access revoked if they speak truth to power. We need laws that determine who is in the press room, rather than the whims of a despot.
you just summed up the crux of the problem
re: #35 FormerDirtDart
Almost everything Trump says is a self-aggrandizing lie. His personality disorders make him unfit for office.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
The only thing he says that’s true is “I’m Donald Trump”.
“President Obama sometimes did call and other times he didn’t, I don’t know, that’s what I’ve been told.” Unreal. https://t.co/9VQBfkQola pic.twitter.com/I6ZcwoBktm
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 16, 2017
re: #36 Kragar
Special Forces ops
Are we helping pursue the ones who kidnapped all those girls a few years ago (and may be continuing for all I know)?
re: #41 Charles Johnson
He was also told he won the popular vote in a landslide.
Edit: That’s his “oh shit I’ve been caught” phrase. It’s still not his fault.
re: #43 Belafon
He was also told he won the popular vote in a landslide.
Edit: That’s his “oh shit I’ve been caught” phrase. It’s still not his fault.
Bingo.
re: #43 Belafon
He was also told he won the popular vote in a landslide.
Edit: That’s his “oh shit I’ve been caught” phrase. It’s still not his fault.
OK, yeah, I pulled that one out of my as* about Obama not calling the families of KIA. OK? But somebody told me. I don’t know. Don’t challenge me on these things. Who are you, Fake News?
“We need a wall. You know, I know it, everybody knows it.” No mention of Mexico paying. https://t.co/9VQBfkQola pic.twitter.com/nh31XE9CkB
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 16, 2017
“Look, the whole Russian thing was an excuse for the Democrats losing the election,” Pres. Trump says of probe on Russian interference. pic.twitter.com/kzogCwkDH8
— CBS News (@CBSNews) October 16, 2017
re: #47 Charles Johnson
“Many people are saying….”
re: #42 Sir John Barron
Are we helping pursue the ones who kidnapped all those girls a few years ago (and may be continuing for all I know)?
Boko Haram. Most likely, although Trump just sabotaged our efforts against fighting them.
Trump: “You know Obama did-“
Me: “YOU KEEP HIS NAME OF YOUR LYING MOUTH, YOU SON OF A BITCH!” pic.twitter.com/0It1LSyUTL— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 16, 2017
re: #48 The Vicious Babushka
So, he’s not denying he colluded.
Now Trump is blaming “the people on the island (Puerto Rico)” for not distributing food and water. https://t.co/9VQBfkQola pic.twitter.com/zBFokr1IFC
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 16, 2017
re: #41 Charles Johnson
“What he’s been told” is usually what this geezer saw on Fox and Friends, or heard on hate-radio.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
re: #12 Renaissance_Man
Second true statement I can remember him saying.
(First being that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and they would still support him.)
Third is “Ted Cruz is a liar’
re: #48 The Vicious Babushka
Can it be any more obvious that Trump is happy with the interference in our election? Fools made a malignant narcissist President.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
Every time he does this, he betrays America.
re: #53 Charles Johnson
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He doesn’t actually need to hold press conferences, just show that morning’s tape of FOX and Friends. That’s got all he knows for the day.
In 2012 Trump promoted claim from Jim Hoft that Obama used autopen to sign letters to fallen soldiers’ families https://t.co/dozRy9NkHZ pic.twitter.com/U7ZqhvGmbK
— Timothy Johnson (@timothywjohnson) October 16, 2017
“Look, the whole Russian thing was an excuse for the Democrats losing the election,” Pres. Trump says of probe on Russian interference. pic.twitter.com/kzogCwkDH8
— CBS News (@CBSNews) October 16, 2017
Where are the questions about why Kushner, Sessions, and others who lied about their contacts are still in office and clearances not revoked
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 16, 2017
re: #5 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Which means that even if we get rid of him tomorrow, it will take decades to undo the damage
And he fucking loves it.
Now attacking NFL players for protesting police brutality. AGAIN. Says they should be suspended. https://t.co/9VQBfkQola pic.twitter.com/42HyMu9hAT
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 16, 2017
.@EricTrump: “You see the divisiveness in this country… then you get home and you hold this little 7-pound ball of love.” @JudgeJeanine pic.twitter.com/X1nPewU2pP
— Fox News (@FoxNews) October 15, 2017
Good
NOW, try to imagine OTHER people feel the same way about THEIR kids
And then try to imagine if those kids didn’t have healthcare… https://t.co/lqnGHl51yF— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 15, 2017
86.3% of Puerto Rico is still without power.
This is easily obtained stats from status.pr
The media continues to give Trump a pass on the disaster in Puerto Rico. It’s a disaster response that makes Bush’s response after Katrina look downright competent.
re: #60 lawhawk
With this maniac constantly lying to cover for the criminal acts of the people around him, I expect the administration to suddenly collapse like a house of cards. It’s rotten from top to bottom.
Once again, at the end of a Trump presser, my only thought is, “What a horrible, horrible human being.” https://t.co/9VQBfkQola
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 16, 2017
Asking Trump to comment on what Hillary said about the NFL is a stupid, clickbait question and a wasted opportunity to push him on real issues. Do better.
— Tommy Vietor (@TVietor08) October 16, 2017
JFC
Pres. Trump: “Oh, I hope Hillary runs. Is she going to run? Hillary, please run again!” pic.twitter.com/6syJrdTRAN
— ABC News (@ABC) October 16, 2017
re: #64 Charles Johnson
He’s a perpetual outrage machine generator, projecting from all the actual outrage he’s committing.
re: #70 The Vicious Babushka
Clinton lives rent free in Trump’s addled mind.
re: #70 The Vicious Babushka
JFC
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Hillary won’t run. The interesting question is who will the Republicans nominate. Probably not the low-rated orange madman.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
re: #64 Charles Johnson
Sounds like Trump’s not going to get what he hoped for. Oh, the players will stop kneeling, but the NFL is reportedly going to be doing more to help with issues the players are protesting.
re: #72 lawhawk
Clinton lives rent free in Trump’s addled mind.
It’s just a trigger word for the propagandized rubes who still support him.
re: #72 lawhawk
Clinton lives rent free in Trump’s addled mind.
At this rate, by 2020, he’s not even going to know his own fucking name, never mind who Hillary is.
Somehow this is making me think the fires in California are tapering.
#DinkeySouthUnderstor #CA #CASNF https://t.co/QyKuTCdlKM Dinkey South Understory: new photos have been uploaded to this incident
— InciWeb (@inciweb) October 16, 2017
(It’s a ‘prescribed burn’, which they used to call ‘controlled burns’ until one got away.)
(Named for the Dinkey Creek, not its size)
Florida state of emergency declared for white nationalist visit to UF — https://t.co/x03sx7tQVp pic.twitter.com/13cTUTXkRU
— News4JAX (@wjxt4) October 16, 2017
Christ.
This level of mendacity is simply exhausting to parse through, especially when it goes simply unchallenged by those who have the greatest duty to do so, both in media and in Washington.
It simply feels too impenetrable to do anything about.
re: #77 wrenchwench
re: #79 Citizen K
Christ.
This level of mendacity is simply exhausting to parse through, especially when it goes simply unchallenged by those who have the greatest duty to do so, both in media and in Washington.
It simply feels too impenetrable to do anything about.
The exhaustion is what he’s counting on.
Trump on soldiers killed in Niger: “President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls … I call when it’s appropriate.” pic.twitter.com/sgj5iEuDhz
— Axios (@axios) October 16, 2017
“Trump says X” is not a sufficient tweet/headline when what Trump says is a lie. It makes things worse. https://t.co/GhJV75Wxz0
— Cody Keenan (@codykeenan) October 16, 2017
Are the Trekkie Trolls fuming yet? A gay interracial love subplot on ST Discovery!!!
re: #84 FormerDirtDart
“Trump says X” is not a sufficient tweet/headline when what Trump says is a lie. It makes things worse
The only reporters DT would licence are mere stenographers.
Trump, falsely, claims President Obama and other former President didn’t make calls to bereaved families of service members who died. pic.twitter.com/FqWbxdkdFD
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 16, 2017
Keep in mind this disgraceful lie about honoring those who sacrificed whenever Trump speaks about honoring the flag & anthem https://t.co/trVTLX3DWW
— Matthew Waxman (@mattwaxman1) October 16, 2017
re: #84 FormerDirtDart
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I really really hope our surviving President all unite and tell him that he’s a fucking liar over this. I didn’t like President Bush but I do know that he did talk to parents who lost their children.
re: #84 FormerDirtDart
Trump on soldiers killed in Niger: “President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls … I call when it’s appropriate.”
— Axios
“George Washington never called either. At least that’s what I’m told. I call when I want and its appropriate. I’m the greatest president ever with the most accomplishments, believe me.”
re: #82 HappyWarrior
Goddamn he lies about everything.
I really think he can’t help himself. He’s a pathological liar.
Congress allied with drug distributors to derail DEA’s war on opioids. https://t.co/EsbXvCjmY7 pic.twitter.com/14xDRt2Zgi
— ProPublica (@ProPublica) October 16, 2017
re: #91 Dr Lizardo
I really think he can’t help himself. He’s a pathological liar.
He does not see it as lying, he is just creating content and filling air time…
re: #89 HappyWarrior
I really really hope our surviving President all unite and tell him that he’s a fucking liar over this. I didn’t like President Bush but I do know that he did talk to parents who lost their children.
Bush was dangerously stupid, but back then Republicans still remembered how to be Americans. Now they’re an eliminationist cult.
re: #87 FormerDirtDart
Meanwhile, on planet Yargon—
re: #65 The Vicious Babushka
.@EricTrump: “You see the divisiveness in this country… then you get home and you hold this little 7-pound ball of love.” @JudgeJeanine
— Fox News
re: #94 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Bush was dangerously stupid, but back then Republicans still remembered how to be Americans. Now they’re an eliminationist cult.
Correct. I never doubted his loyalty to the country. Thought he was wrong but I didn’t think he had Putin’s hand up his ass.
re: #94 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Bush was dangerously stupid, but back then Republicans still remembered how to be Americans. Now they’re an eliminationist cult.
I believe that Dubya was truly sincere in his stupidity and not a cynical manipulator.
re: #95 Sir John Barron
Meanwhile, on planet Yargon—
You know what, I’m happy for them. Having a child is a blessing. Now imagine the families that can’t afford health insurance for their children thanks to his Dad.
I just slobbered up a ‘peel and stick’ envelope real good. Then I peeled it, then I stuck it. Doesn’t even need tape!
re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I believe that Dubya was truly sincere in his stupidity and not a cynical manipulator.
As much as I dislike W, I really think it would have been a different story if he hadn’t brought Cheney on board. He wouldn’t have been a great president by any means but Cheney combined with 9/11 made his administration worse.
re: #41 Charles Johnson
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All he’s doing is cya because HE HASN’T CALLED
so fucking damaged
I have to give up trying to work and hanging out here. Ran out for some errands come back and go through previous thread where I left off and answering some comments directed to me…and ended up CLed. Sigh. I couldn’t answer them in this thread, that wouldn’t be right.
Oh well. The work is important.
re: #101 Stanley Sea
“I will at some point during the period of time call the parents.”
The fabled Double Vague Evasion.
A journalist who worked on the Panama Papers was killed by a car bomb today in Malta. https://t.co/LVYS6byWXD
— Joshua Benton (@jbenton) October 16, 2017
re: #103 jaunte
“I will at some point during the period of time call the parents.”
The fabled Double Vague Evasion.
“Next year while I’m campaigning. I’ll try to get them out to my rallies.”
Hmmm… pic.twitter.com/M36nfKJWyu
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) October 16, 2017
“Obamacare is gone, which proves I didn’t fail at repeal. Also, don’t blame my sabotage for your skyrocketing premiums, blame Obamacare” https://t.co/axlDz9VpCz
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) October 16, 2017
re: #103 jaunte
“I will at some point during the period of time call the parents.”
The fabled Double Vague Evasion.
“I’ll call when they beg me to call them. I don’t need to just call anybody. They should be grateful to me, the stock market, all the accomplishments.”
When you have really bad ideas you must always have an unpopular partner to ensure you have a scapegoat.#MitchAndMe pic.twitter.com/xpYDCKRADs
— Red T Raccoon (@RedTRaccoon) October 16, 2017
Turtle becomes goat.
re: #107 Sir John Barron
“I’ll call when they beg me to call them. I don’t need to just call anybody. They should be grateful to me, the stock market, all the accomplishments.”
“I like to call the families of people who didn’t die. Losers. Sad!”
re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
He does not see it as lying, he is just creating content and filling air time…
That’s why he throws the meaningless bullshit caveat “People say…” (or some variant). He’s just repeating what he heard—not lying…
Trump joked that Pence wants to hang gay people. Somehow, as with so much else, this will barely make a ripple. https://t.co/9ItD1VVmRJ pic.twitter.com/1BFIDP9VxT
— Jessica Valenti (@JessicaValenti) October 16, 2017
In 2017, we have to remind our President that it’s never ok to “joke” about killing LGBTQ Americans…or anyone. @realDonaldTrump @POTUS https://t.co/LMGl63tjIi
— Chelsea Clinton (@ChelseaClinton) October 16, 2017
re: #106 FormerDirtDart
“Obamacare is gone, which proves I didn’t fail at repeal. Also, don’t blame my sabotage for your skyrocketing premiums, blame Obamacare”
“I didn’t do it and stop talking about my mother”
(quote from a serial rapist who was nonetheless once a great comic)
re: #112 JordanRules
Divisive liberals can’t take a joke, also what about those Shakespeare in the Park plays that killed Trump?!?!
re: #111 Mike Lamb
That’s why he throws the meaningless bullshit caveat “People say…” (or some variant). He’s just repeating what he heard—not lying…
He shames himself every time he says that. He’s more wingnut blogger than President.
I think I’m getting a concussion from all the face-palming.
re: #106 FormerDirtDart
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Aren’t these quotes going to be Exhibit 1 to the lawsuit on the CSR fuckery? He’s effectively admitting that he repealed the ACA by executive order.
re: #87 FormerDirtDart
Marshall still repeated the lie. You never repeat the lie, regardless of the structure. You state the truth and the fact Trump lied. That is all.
Obama and other Presidents called to offer their condolences to the families of fallen soldiers. Trump lied when he stated otherwise.
re: #116 Mike Lamb
Shades of Rudy G. and the travel ban.
It’s #TrumpCare now. This is what happens when we vote sociopaths into office.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
I’ve suspected that Conservatives were sociopaths and psychopaths ever since the phrase “bleeding-heart liberal” caught on as a way to try to insult people who have empathy for others.
Trump, once again, says: “We’re the highest-taxed country in the world.”
That is not correct. https://t.co/XbYeUe1aEV— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 16, 2017
1300+ document lies in less than a year, averages 5 lies a day. Trump represents GOP perfectly. #RepublicanFascism https://t.co/WuYp1Xkqzt
— MiddleAmericaMS (@MiddleAmericaMS) October 16, 2017
I’m old enough to remember the complaints that the wingularity had against Obama…
He was feckless
He didn’t speak about military personnel killed in action
He ruled by executive fiat
He was incompetent
He wasn’t actually smart
He was just a celebrity
He was corrupt
He was a criminal
He didn’t care about the First Amendment
And then they elect Donald Fucking Trump. It really is IMAX in space all the way down with these guys, isn’t it?
Mr. Trump! Do you know how many American soldiers were just ambushed & killed in Niger?
Fore!— David Waldman, LLC (@KagroX) October 16, 2017
re: #121 KGxvi
I’m old enough to remember the complaints that the wingularity had against Obama…
And then they elect Donald Fucking Trump. It really is IMAX in space all the way down with these guys, isn’t it?
Obama also used a teleprompter and said “I” in his speeches. And he was a constant campaigner, etc.
re: #103 jaunte
“I will at some point during the period of time call the parents.”
The fabled Double Vague Evasion.
On Lovett or Leave It this weekend, they played a bit of Trump’s nonsense (I think for Ok, Stop), and Trump had a line something like, “I don’t have a schedule but if I did, I’d say I was ahead of it.” Lovett had the same reaction I did, which was basically “fuck, I wish I had a line like that in college as I was missing assignments.”
re: #119 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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I’ve suspected that Conservatives were sociopaths and psychopaths ever since the phrase “bleeding-heart liberal” caught on as a way to try to insult people who have empathy for others.
And “Social Justice Warrior,” too.
I remember years ago when John Rogers at kungfumonkey wrote about some wingnut who’d written an essay claiming the Empire were the real heroes of “Star Wars.” The conservatives have been busy trying to claim evil is the real good for quite a while.
re: #117 Weaselone
Marshall still repeated the lie. You never repeat the lie, regardless of the structure. You state the truth and the fact Trump lied. That is all.
Obama and other Presidents called to offer their condolences to the families of fallen soldiers. Trump lied when he stated otherwise.
Bolded the whole damn thing because it’s that important. I’ve been saying this now for ages - don’t repeat the lie, repeat the actual facts! Hell, that’s what they said in the Amy Hoggart Full Frontal video posted in the previous threads - the more you repeat a lie, even for debunking purposes, the more you help it spread and become memorable, thus doing Cheeto Benito’s work for him.
re: #123 Sir John Barron
Obama also used a teleprompter and said “I” in his speeches. And he was a constant campaigner, etc.
Ah, yes, forgot about those, but the teleprompter was just a more dog whistlely version of “he’s not smart” which was a more dog whistely version of “he’s a [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted] [n-bomb].”
re: #124 KGxvi
He’s lived a life unaccountable to anyone but daddy, and daddy’s dead.
re: #121 KGxvi
I’m old enough to remember the complaints that the wingularity had against Obama…
And then they elect Donald Fucking Trump. It really is IMAX in space all the way down with these guys, isn’t it?
On the First Amendment things, everyone, including the “liberal media” went absolutely apoplectic when Obama’s press secretary stated that Fox wasn’t a real new organization. We now have a President leaning on companies/organizations (ESPN and the NFL) to fire people for expressing their opinion and trying to drum up support for in some way shutting down news outlets. And no one with a significant platform is really, really drilling down as to how fucked that all is.
U.S. President Donald Trump says the United States is ‘not taking sides’ between #Iraqi forces and #Kurds #NRTnews pic.twitter.com/Nz6VQ6XNtp
— NRT English (@NRT_English) October 16, 2017
Seems like a blunder after U.S. diplomats warned Abadi not to attack Kirkuk https://t.co/LbvnRgW2Gk
— Blake Hounshell (@blakehounshell) October 16, 2017
re: #128 KGxvi
Ah, yes, forgot about those, but the teleprompter was just a more dog whistlely version of “he’s not smart” which was a more dog whistely version of “he’s a [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted] [n-bomb].”
Although Obama was of course very smart, which was easy to tell, so I wasn’t quite sure what wingnuts were trying to claim when they crowed all the time about the teleprompter.
re: #121 KGxvi
I’m old enough to remember the complaints that the wingularity had against Obama…
And then they elect Donald Fucking Trump. It really is IMAX in space all the way down with these guys, isn’t it?
Don’t forget that they called Obama a narcissist because they couldn’t say “uppity”, then elected an actual narcissist.
re: #134 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Don’t forget that they called Obama a narcissist because they couldn’t say “uppity”, then elected an actual narcissist.
TRUMP HAS SACRIFICED SO MUCH HE DIDNT NEED THIS PRESIDENT JOB HE JUST WANTED TO MAGA!
re: #78 FormerDirtDart
You’re such a wimp, Richard, that you need the National Guard? Wimp.
If I had the time, energy, or wherewithal to actually go through the dredges of the wingnutosphere to pull up all the complaints against Obama and then compare them to shit Trump has actually said and done, it’d probably make for some fun reading. But truth be told, I couldn’t bring myself to do that sort of project. I refuse to stare into the abyss while it screams back at me MAGA!
Obama visited wounded troops at Walter Reed so often that hawks worried it was making him too anti-war https://t.co/9kDo2Xbcdd
— Foppish Vox Hipster (@dylanmatt) October 16, 2017
re: #126 scottslemmons
And “Social Justice Warrior,” too.
I remember years ago when John Rogers at kungfumonkey wrote about some wingnut who’d written an essay claiming the Empire were the real heroes of “Star Wars.” The conservatives have been busy trying to claim evil is the real good for quite a while.
Found Rogers’ blog post, and I’d forgotten a lot of what it’d originally been about. Most of it was taking a wingnut movie reviewer to town about how Hollywood and the Oscars work, but the best bit is when the wingnut claims Star Wars, Episode III should’ve gotten an Oscar nod because it had the highest box office.
re: #41 Charles Johnson
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Because I always set my policies by doing the same as what the last guy did
re: #140 JordanRules
They’d’ve really hated this guy:
I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its stupidity.
DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER, speech, January 10, 1946
But isn’t that often the sentiment, to experience the costs of war, even second hand, is to realize that it is a fool’s gambit. Especially in this modern epoch.
Here is Trump’s full answer on his calling and not calling of the families of dead soldiers. It is worth reading. pic.twitter.com/p3HAeTF1T5
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 16, 2017
Governor Skeletor of Florida has put a state of emergency in place for Gainesville in advance of Richard Spencer speaking there on Thursday. Additionally it is going to cost half a million dollars for National Guard troops to be on hand to protect that very punchable Nazi.
Why are they even giving this guy the time of day? That money could be better spent helping the victims of hurricane Irma.
BREAKING: Trump says previous presidents didn’t bother calling the families of fallen U.S. soldiers
— David S. Joachim (@davidjoachim) October 16, 2017
Hi David. Looks like you had enough characters left to mention this statement is a lie. Just a suggestion! https://t.co/xhCitq5Isd
— scary lawyerguy (@scarylawyerguy) October 16, 2017
re: #121 KGxvi
I’m old enough to remember the complaints that the wingularity had against Obama…
And then they elect Donald Fucking Trump. It really is IMAX in space all the way down with these guys, isn’t it?
They set it all up so now we can’t use any of that
re: #143 KGxvi
And it’s essential that those with the power to wage it not be damaged humans who somehow escape these realizations.
re: #145 mmmirele
Governor Skeletor of Florida has put a state of emergency in place for Gainesville in advance of Richard Spencer speaking there on Thursday. Additionally it is going to cost half a million dollars for National Guard troops to be on hand to protect that very punchable Nazi.
Why are they even giving this guy the time of day? That money could be better spent helping the victims of hurricane Irma.
If I were a billionaire, I’d pay the defense costs of any member of the National Guard that punched Spencer on behalf of the rest of us. Sadly, I am not a billionaire, so I can’t make that offer. And I know I should not take satisfaction in seeing another person punched in the face (possible exceptions of MMA and boxing, or a pro wrestling event getting stiff), but I mean, Spencer might be the exception that proves the rule?
This is why Trump’s gang tries to keep him away from press conferences: they know he’s going to say disgusting things every damned time.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 16, 2017
re: #146 jaunte
If you don’t lead with “Trump lies, saying…” fools will think he’s telling the truth, no matter how bizarre the claim.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
Another Obama alum makes it plain.
Trump on soldiers killed in Niger: “President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls … I call when it’s appropriate.” pic.twitter.com/sgj5iEuDhz
— Axios (@axios) October 16, 2017
This is a lie. It disrespects the office, his predecessors & the flag the soldiers died defending. It’s always “appropriate” to make a call https://t.co/kWkJGMHDs2
— Chris Lu (@ChrisLu44) October 16, 2017
Media, learn how to do this!
re: #145 mmmirele
Governor Skeletor of Florida has put a state of emergency in place for Gainesville in advance of Richard Spencer speaking there on Thursday. Additionally it is going to cost half a million dollars for National Guard troops to be on hand to protect that very punchable Nazi.
Why are they even giving this guy the time of day? That money could be better spent helping the victims of hurricane Irma.
When Republicans aren’t trying to shut down NBC for reporting fake news, they fight hard for the 1st Amendment right of Nazis to speak on Campuses.
re: #152 JordanRules
Another Obama alum makes it plain.
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No self-aggrandizing lie is too obscene for Trump. The poorly-educated did this. We need to improve education in America.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
BREAKING: Spanish judge orders two leaders of Catalonia’s independence movement jailed during sedition investigation.
— The Associated Press (@AP) October 16, 2017
3rd degree daaamn!!
I assume your spellcheck is in the hospital battling cancer so you abandoned it
— Ramzy Nasrallah (@ramzy) October 16, 2017
He was responding to Newt’s tweet where he butchered the English language. Appears he may have deleted it.
12 days after it was announced soldiers were killed in Niger, Trump says “I will at some point during the period of time call the parents.” pic.twitter.com/vPh85JNF4x
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 16, 2017
For context: Trump was golfing on the day the body of one of the soldiers killed in Niger returned to Dover: https://t.co/JsOHvvWeIJ https://t.co/gjLHfBsumh
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 16, 2017
Golfing sounds so lame and mild. What he’s also doing is promoting his shitty businesses on our dime. https://t.co/0Srb5k1m30
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) October 16, 2017
re: #157 JordanRules
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, Obama golfed all the time, which was the go-to story for Fox News. Now?
re: #144 FormerDirtDart
Translation: I have no idea what I’m doing.
Bye, y’all! I’m leaving! pic.twitter.com/whxU12KDO0
— joe mande (@JoeMande) October 16, 2017
re: #145 mmmirele
Governor Skeletor of Florida has put a state of emergency in place for Gainesville in advance of Richard Spencer speaking there on Thursday. Additionally it is going to cost half a million dollars for National Guard troops to be on hand to protect that very punchable Nazi.
Why are they even giving this guy the time of day? That money could be better spent helping the victims of hurricane Irma.
How else are they going to make fellow Nazis out as victims?
re: #157 JordanRules
That would have been terrible, even if he didn’t go defensive and lie about prior Presidents not calling the families.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
He’s a cornered animal.
In Saratoga Springs NY, SPAC says City Ballet will be reduced to 7 shows in 2018, loses one million dollars, and considers this a success.
Saratoga Performing Arts Center’s new executive director hailed the 2017 season as a success but announced the New York City Ballet’s residency will be shortened yet again.
The 2018 ballet season will be cut in half, from a two-week run in 2017 to just one week.
“I know that this is heartbreaking news for passionate ballet fans,” said SPAC’s President and CEO Elizabeth Sobol when reached on Sunday. “However, even though SPAC had a break-even year again in 2017, we are facing the need for some very significant investments in the organization and capital expenditures - particularly pertaining to the aging infrastructure at and around the venue.”
Sobol said the board decided to reduce City Ballet’s stay because it lost more than $1 million on the NYCB residency. She said continuing to lose money on the residency is “not prudent.”
re: #163 Shropshire Slasher
When I read what you cut, it doesn’t match your summary.
re: #145 mmmirele
Governor Skeletor of Florida has put a state of emergency in place for Gainesville in advance of Richard Spencer speaking there on Thursday. Additionally it is going to cost half a million dollars for National Guard troops to be on hand to protect that very punchable Nazi.
Why are they even giving this guy the time of day? That money could be better spent helping the victims of hurricane Irma.
Thankfully, Ohio State University told Spencer no as far as speaking on their campus. Spencer’s lawyer is threatening to sue the school for not allowing him.
Good luck on suing OSU. But I bet the suit never comes about. I’ll be looking to see how this goes.
re: #164 Belafon
It doesn’t matter if it broke even or lost a million, it was a success!
(I am trying to be snarky)
For anyone interested in Virtual Reality, Pimax is working on a headset that gives the user a 200 degree field of view, and higher DPI than existing headsets. They’ve already successfully released a 4k (2K per eye) headset.
The goal was $200K, but they’re now closing in on $2 million with 17 days left.
kickstarter.com
Bloomberg reports Jared Kushner’s plan to save his debt-laden office building 666 Fifth Avenue is falling aparthttps://t.co/ZyB5AlRMpi
— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) October 16, 2017
re: #167 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
For anyone interested in Virtual Reality, Pimax is working on a headset that gives the user a 200 degree field of view, and higher DPI than existing headsets. They’ve already successfully released a 4k (2K per eye) headset.
The goal was $200K, but they’re now closing in on $2 million with 17 days left.
kickstarter.com
That’s cool. The closer they can get to me being able to do software development in a VR environment, the better.
re: #169 Belafon
That’s cool. The closer they can get to me being able to do software development in a VR environment, the better.
I tried virtual monitors on the Vive, but the sub-pixels on the headset are so large that it’s useless for productivity, and hard to read even large text. That may change with the Pimax, and other next gen headsets as they come out.
re: #119 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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I’ve suspected that Conservatives were sociopaths and psychopaths ever since the phrase “bleeding-heart liberal” caught on as a way to try to insult people who have empathy for others.
Yes, I think “bleeding-heart liberal” was coined so Evangelicals can ignore Catholics’ and Liberals’ doing the hard work of living up to the Sermon on the Mount.
This is why people who “aren’t politically correct” want us to be more like Russia.
The Weinstein Scandal Pulls Back the Curtain on Sex Abuse at the Bolshoi
re: #160 FormerDirtDart
joe mande ✔@JoeMande
Bye, y’all! I’m leaving!
2:55 PM - Oct 16, 2017
Good for him.
If people want Twitter to change that is the way to get it done.
The only way.
But yes, it is easy for me to say it, because I don’t use it.
I just hope more and more people decide to start to get this country back in line by dropping their accounts. Twitter and Facebook were apparently happy to allow their ‘tools’ to be used in the campaign. I have the feeling they will never say it, but I bet they see the results of the campaign as proof of how awesome they are and the power they have.
I would never help enable that. They fucked this country over. They should not be rewarded for it.
re: #174 ObserverArt
I’m currently not a big enough fish for leaving to make a difference, but if there’s a mass exodus, I will join in to help with the momentum.
re: #145 mmmirele
Governor Skeletor of Florida has put a state of emergency in place for Gainesville in advance of Richard Spencer speaking there on Thursday. Additionally it is going to cost half a million dollars for National Guard troops to be on hand to protect that very punchable Nazi.
Why are they even giving this guy the time of day? That money could be better spent helping the victims of hurricane Irma.
Disgraceful.
At one time, National Guard troops had orders to shoot Nazis on sight. They did quite a bit of it too.
36th Infantry Division
Afternoon Lizardim from the beautiful, mild wild north country. Fall is in session here, the trees are turning, and the nights are getting colder. I seem to have missed something in this headline; exactly how much “winning” have these two jackwagons been doing? Doesn’t seem like much to me. Anyhow, how go things among the lizardfolk on this glorious October eve?
re: #135 Sir John Barron
TRUMP HAS SACRIFICED SO MUCH HE DIDNT NEED THIS PRESIDENT JOB HE JUST WANTED TO MAGA!
Yep, that and being up to his neck in hock to Putin.
re: #171 plansbandc
Took me a few secs…..
re: #168 Belafon
Bloomberg reports Jared Kushner’s plan to save his debt-laden office building 666 Fifth Avenue is falling apart
— Gabriel Sherman
Since Jared solved the Middle East crisis, shouldn’t he be eligible for a bailout?
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re: #175 Belafon
I understand this sentiment especially now but I have really complicated thoughts around it. Part of it is the many benefits I’ve seen for marginalized people.
They absolutely need to clean some things up, but even that should be attached to a larger conversation around national security, business and tech. And it should be aimed at everyone. Pinterest, as just one example, wasn’t spared in regards to Russian dirty tricks.
Some of these social media platforms are uncovering a lot of ugly shit, but taking them away won’t make the dung heaps go away.
Regulations maybe? I don’t know, but it’s not simple for me.
re: #174 ObserverArt
Good for him.
If people want Twitter to change that is the way to get it done.
The only way.
But yes, it is easy for me to say it, because I don’t use it.
I just hope more and more people decide to start to get this country back in line by dropping their accounts. Twitter and Facebook were apparently happy to allow their ‘tools’ to be used in the campaign. I have the feeling they will never say it, but I bet they see the results of the campaign as proof of how awesome they are and the power they have.
I would never help enable that. They fucked this country over. They should not be rewarded for it.
Do you FB? From your comment, it looks like ‘no’.
There was a ‘merchants meeting’ downtown here last Weds., and I mentioned to one friend that I never ‘see’ another friend anymore, because I gave up FB because they helped Trump. A well-respected downtown consultant said, ‘Good idea’. A couple days later I mentioned it to a customer (potential customer, may not ever return from 80 miles away) and she said, ‘But I like Trump.’ That reminded me of my old commitment to keep politics out of the store. Ya just never know.
re: #182 wrenchwench
Do you FB? From your comment, it looks like ‘no’.
There was a ‘merchants meeting’ downtown here last Weds., and I mentioned to one friend that I never ‘see’ another friend anymore, because I gave up FB because they helped Trump. A well-respected downtown consultant said, ‘Good idea’. A couple days later I mentioned it to a customer (potential customer, may not ever return from 80 miles away) and she said, ‘But I like Trump.’ That reminded me of my old commitment to keep politics out of the store. Ya just never know.
My default position now is to simply not trust other white people until they prove themselves to not be monsters.
re: #175 Belafon
I’m currently not a big enough fish for leaving to make a difference, but if there’s a mass exodus, I will join in to help with the momentum.
I’m sure a lot of people feel that way. But little fish can make up a big school and that big school is needed.
It can be a sign for Democrats to show some fight too.
I have a feeling Twitter and Facebook are counting on people not schooling up.
Big things always start with one individual. Think Rosa Parks. It would have been easier for her to take that seat in the back of the bus. She was just one little person too.
I said I don’t have an account, so I am already not missing it and that is part of why I wonder why it is so hard to drop them if you want change.
Maybe the guy that posted that “I quit” Tweet will get the ball rolling. He is just one person too. More power to him.
I’ll shut up now. I’m nobody too.
re: #181 JordanRules
I understand this sentiment especially now but I have really complicated thoughts around it. Part of it is the many benefits I’ve seen for marginalized people.
They absolutely need to clean some things up, but even that should be attached to a larger conversation around national security, business and tech. And it should be aimed at everyone. Pinterest, as just one example, wasn’t spared in regards to Russian dirty tricks.
Some of these social media platforms are uncovering a lot of ugly shit, but taking them away, won’t make the dung heaps go away.
Regulations maybe? I don’t know, but it’s not simple for me.
A mass exodus is the only way Twitter will change, IMO. Either that, or a $2B GoFundMe. I don’t think you can get rid of Twitter; if it shut down, something else would take it’s place. (That’s why I suggested the other day that Charles create a replacement. I wouldn’t have to be phone number based since very few text from their phones.) It’s part of the way we communicate.
I think we’re also seeing the limits of ad based financial support. When you need two more eyeballs, you will let lots of things happen. We either need to start paying for it, bail on it en masse, or accept what is going on, in part because we’re never going to convince Twitter otherwise. Tide paying .0003 per view still has more power than those of us who do it for free.
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A gem from Trump’s presser today. He starts off blaming drug companies for the cost of prescription drugs … ends up blaming the “world” pic.twitter.com/tW24GEGbm9
— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) October 16, 2017
Just made a 9x13 tray of bread pudding and about a gallon, ok 2 cups of bourbon whiskey sauce.
Camera and tech are causing trouble so no pix.
Trust me..at least on this..I really made it and we’re really eating it…
re: #184 ObserverArt
I’m sure a lot of people feel that way. But little fish can make up a big school and that big school is needed.
It can be a sign for Democrats to show some fight too.
I have a feeling Twitter and Facebook are counting on people not schooling up.
Big things always start with one individual. Think Rosa Parks. It would have been easier for her to take that seat in the back of the bus. She was just one little person too.
I said I don’t have an account, so I am already not missing it and that is part of why I wonder why it is so hard to drop them if you want change.
Maybe the guy that posted that “I quit” Tweet will get the ball rolling. He is just one person too. More power to him.
I’ll shut up now. I’m nobody too.
Rosa Parks did a lot of up front coordination with a whole lot of other people to make her “spontaneous event” work.
re: #182 wrenchwench
Do you FB? From your comment, it looks like ‘no’.
There was a ‘merchants meeting’ downtown here last Weds., and I mentioned to one friend that I never ‘see’ another friend anymore, because I gave up FB because they helped Trump. A well-respected downtown consultant said, ‘Good idea’. A couple days later I mentioned it to a customer (potential customer, may not ever return from 80 miles away) and she said, ‘But I like Trump.’ That reminded me of my old commitment to keep politics out of the store. Ya just never know.
No Facebook. No Twitter. The only thing social I have is a LinkedIn account and I don’t know why. I did it for a client that asked me to get one and it really hasn’t helped my business. I get more emails that mean nothing to me.
re: #186 The Vicious Babushka
Old man shouts at clouds.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
re: #186 The Vicious Babushka
“The world sucks. Only I can fix!”
re: #183 goddamnedfrank
My default position now is to simply not trust other white people until they prove themselves to not be monsters.
It would be great publicity (sort of) if I temporarily only let in the 60% of the local population that is Hispanic. Otherwise, I’d have to lock the door to keep the potential monsters out. That could be bad for business.
re: #183 goddamnedfrank
My default position now is to simply not trust other white people until they prove themselves to not be monsters.
That’s one reason I’m a longhair now. I had to differentiate myself from the Nazis.
re: #186 The Vicious Babushka
A gem from Trump’s presser today. He starts off blaming drug companies for the cost of prescription drugs … ends up blaming the “world”
Area man is confused, rather daft.
Jim Bakker warns that we will have to answer to God some day because we “made fun of Jim Bakker all those years.” https://t.co/4ip6FF7VwB
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) October 16, 2017
Yes, and God will say, “Well done, thou good and faithful servant.”
re: #185 Belafon
I don’t think a mass exodus will happen because not everyone has the same experience on Twitter as is represented here. And even many of those who do really value some of the other benefits they encounter.
I think there are some real blind spots around how folks use it and what it can mean for them.
Agree with you on the evolution of ad based support. It will be interesting to see where that goes.
Here’s how you say it:
that’s a fucking lie. to say president obama (or past presidents) didn’t call the family members of soldiers KIA - he’s a deranged animal.
— Alyssa Mastromonaco (@AlyssaMastro44) October 16, 2017
re: #187 dangerman
Just made a 9x13 tray of bread pudding and about a gallon, ok 2 cups of bourbon whiskey sauce.
Camera and tech are causing trouble so no pix.
Trust me..at least on this..I really made it and we’re really eating it…
Bread pudding is a favorite in my household. It is not very photogenic even under the best of circumstances.
re: #188 Belafon
Rosa Parks did a lot of up front coordination with a whole lot of other people to make her “spontaneous event” work.
And if a bunch of Lizards coordinate and make it a thing and contact the guy who quit maybe that gets it going.
Oops. I shouldn’t have responded.
Please, leave me out of it. I am not a user so therefore I am disqualified. Thanks. No further discussion from me on either Twitter or Facebook. All I can do is not join.
re: #195 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
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Yes, and God will say, “Well done, thou good and faithful servant.”
He doesn’t seem to understand that the people who mock him don’t think he’s actually friends with a god.
re: #195 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Yes, and God will say, “Well done, thou good and faithful servant.”
God: Why did you stop? Did I not give you breathe to laugh for hours?
.@PeteSouza with the facts. pic.twitter.com/am6mOtvBsV
— deray mckesson (@deray) October 16, 2017
Ireland’s Jewish population rises by almost 30% https://t.co/q5ExDSVEp3 via @IrishTimes pic.twitter.com/yWv9DcqbOQ
— 🌍Vicious Babushka🌎 (@viciousbabushka) October 16, 2017
re: #203 The Vicious Babushka
That seemed impossible until I saw the increase was only 573 people. I had no idea that there were so few Jewish people in Ireland.
To add. I will comment on the politics and the workings of Twitter and Facebook. It is a part of the big political picture. And surely it seems they did in fact help give us Trump.
re: #204 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
That seemed impossible until I saw the increase was only 573 people. I had no idea that there were so few Jewish people in Ireland.
There’s only 15 million Jews total. We can’t be everywhere.
re: #207 Ace-o-aces
There’s only 15 million Jews total. We can’t be everywhere.
Then how are you running everything?
re: #204 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
That seemed impossible until I saw the increase was only 573 people. I had no idea that there were so few Jewish people in Ireland.
Oh, Danny Goy
re: #206 ObserverArt
To add. I will comment on the politics and the workings of Twitter and Facebook. It is a part of the big political picture. And surely it seems they did in fact help give us Trump.
It is legit to participate in a boycott without having any prior consumption. As a person with access, you make the choice not to participate every day.
It’s not like suddenly deciding to boycott tampons. That would be less legit.
re: #208 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Then how are you running everything?
A lot of the work is automated these days.
re: #211 wrenchwench
It is legit to participate in a boycott without having any prior consumption. As a person with access, you make the choice not to participate every day.
It’s not like suddenly deciding to boycott tampons. That would be less legit.
Right. I’m boycotting luxury cars, mcmansions, yachts.
re: #206 ObserverArt
To add. I will comment on the politics and the workings of Twitter and Facebook. It is a part of the big political picture. And surely it seems they did in fact help give us Trump.
People who know how to manipulate Twitter and Facebook did that…as soon as I saw that anything “trending on Twitter” was treated as a valid news item and then showing up on FB news feeds, I knew that America’s days as a leading nation were numbered…
Remember when the Trump campaign released the ad saying Hillary was in poor health?pic.twitter.com/71VXA1KmgT
— Mark Elliott (@markmobility) October 16, 2017
re: #213 Sir John Barron
Right. I’m boycotting luxury cars, mcmansions, yachts.
I think that comes under ‘less legit’.
re: #216 GlutenFreeJesus
Republicans always project. The scary thing is they said Hillary will start WWIII.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
re: #216 GlutenFreeJesus
I think Mitch needed the help with the stairs. Check out that thread.
It’s not that Trump can’t handle a few small steps. They’re holding hands because they’re in love.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
re: #204 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Historically Ireland’s staunchly Catholic, dogmatic society was not very welcoming to Jews.
Trump on soldiers killed in Niger: “President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls … I call when it’s appropriate.” pic.twitter.com/sgj5iEuDhz
— Axios (@axios) October 16, 2017
This is not how you do journalism in the Twitter era. You have to call out the lie in the tweet. @axios is spreading Trump’s lie. https://t.co/X368LUgmJi
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) October 16, 2017
re: #220 Dr. Matt
I think Mitch needed the help with the stairs. Check out that thread.
Trump’s afraid of stairs/inclines, too. He made someone hold his hand walking down the slight outdoor ramp at the White House (Merkel, maybe? Can’t remember).
And there was the thing about Ivanka’s office, too IIRC. I remember Conway saying that if the office was on the second floor of the White House Trump would never go there.
1966. Ed Sullivan needs to explain to his audience about his young Jim Brown and just what he laying down. Props to Ed, but Jimmy was wailing far to long to be ignored any longer. I could hear mothers and fathers screaming at the TV when James come down and ignites. And it’s just a medley of two songs James was doing and did. James Brown. Damn…
Same as it ever was….Same as it..
re: #223 Charles Johnson
How about “Trump lies about previous Presidents…” Please call out the lies at the beginning of each Tweet about a Trump lie.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 16, 2017
re: #222 Dizzy
Historically Ireland’s staunchly Catholic, dogmatic society was not very welcoming to Jews.
It was murderously terrible to women too. The Irish let religion get a hold on their country.
re: #204 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
That seemed impossible until I saw the increase was only 573 people. I had no idea that there were so few Jewish people in Ireland.
Zedushka’s grandmother was born in Ireland. The legend is that the family bought cheap tickets to Ireland (last stop before America) and planned to hide until the ship left port. But the ship was thoroughly swept and they were put ashore in Belfast. That’s the legend.
The truth is they planned on emigrating to Ireland the whole time. There was a small but close Jewish community & Z’s 2 great-uncles already settled and owned businesses there.
The is the way to do it..
Criticized for not commenting on soldiers killed in action, Trump falsely says Obama did even less
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re: #220 Dr. Matt
I think Mitch needed the help with the stairs. Check out that thread.
Maybe, but it’s weird that Mitch would be reaching back for help, and Trump looks off balance at the second step.
re: #230 Mike Lamb
Maybe, but it’s weird that Mitch would be reaching back for help, and Trump looks off balance at the second step.
Just two elderly lovers helping each other along. I think it’s adorable.
re: #196 JordanRules
Some reflections.
The Truth About Black Twitter
12 Must Follow LGBT Activists on Twitter
How ‘Black Twitter’ and BlackLivesMatter hashtag gave voice to marginalized groups
Twitter Trend #DisabledAndCute Is Empowering Disabled People
#DVpit is a Twitter event created to showcase pitches from marginalized voices that have been historically underrepresented in publishing.
Twitter: A Novel Tool for Studying the Health and Social Needs of Transgender Communities.
CALL @PrisonPlanet! TRUMPS GOT TEH PARKINSONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) October 16, 2017
I believe the public has the right to know what countries large companies pay (or don’t pay) taxes in.
— Sen. Al Franken (@SenFranken) October 16, 2017
Me too Senator.
re: #232 JordanRules
Some reflections.
The Truth About Black Twitter
12 Must Follow LGBT Activists on Twitter
How ‘Black Twitter’ and BlackLivesMatter hashtag gave voice to marginalized groups
Twitter Trend #DisabledAndCute Is Empowering Disabled People
#DVpit is a Twitter event created to showcase pitches from marginalized voices that have been historically underrepresented in publishing.
Twitter: A Novel Tool for Studying the Health and Social Needs of Transgender Communities.
I see twitter as a tool more than I do FB. Very much so.
.@realDonaldTrump Motorcade making its way along Southern Blvd. pic.twitter.com/Y6VDtpLEdv
— Hannah Winston (@hannahwinston) March 17, 2017
Now I have this incredible urge to nosh on some gefilte fish.
Trump will congratulate the families of those killed in Niger and wish for them to have a great time.
Sky blackened by smoke from fires in Vieira de Leiria, Portugal today, stoked by unseasonal heat. Via @severeweatherEU #climatechange pic.twitter.com/IFhE8ohNI8
— UN Climate Change (@UNFCCC) October 15, 2017
Wow.
re: #234 JordanRules
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Even if we actually were the highest corporate tax rate in the world (which we most certainly are not)…
It’s not the Cayman Islands navy that protects Exxon’s shipping routes. It’s not Luxemborg’s commerce department that protects Apple’s IP at the world court. It wasn’t Costa Rica who provided trillions in zero-interest loans to keep Citibank and JP Morgan afloat.
Seems they should be willing to pay their fair share to the Indispensable Nation that makes their profits possible.
re: #239 Shropshire Slasher
Kate Upton changes teams
Yeah, it’s click bait.
Well, her boyfriend does play for the Astros, so that’s kinda understandable.///
re: #241 sagehen
Even if we actually were the highest corporate tax rate in the world (which we most certainly are not)…
It’s not the Cayman Islands navy that protects Exxon’s shipping routes. It’s not Luxemborg’s commerce department that protects Apples IP at the world court. It wasn’t Costa Rica who provided trillions in zero-interest loans to keep Citibank and JP Morgan afloat.
Seems they should be willing to pay their fair share to the Indispensable Nation that makes their profits possible.
Hey! We can’t even get them to build a measly little wall.
— Chris Baugh (@chris_baugh_) October 16, 2017
The bad news, she’s a $%#$@%# idiot.
The good news: her peers are giving it to her
MCain lived in the Hanoi Hilton .. He wasn’t a POW!
— 🇺🇸 Alicia 👠 (@AliciaLee1256) October 16, 2017
re: #245 I Would Prefer Not To
The bad news, she’s a $%#$@%# idiot.
The good news: her peers are giving it to her
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Sarcasm is dead.
re: #245 I Would Prefer Not To
The bad news, she’s a $%#$@%# idiot.
The good news: her peers are giving it to her
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Is she actually that stupid, or is she just a really damn good troll?
re: #245 I Would Prefer Not To
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The good news: her peers are giving it to her
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Gotta be a bot.
I don’t watch Fox News (I’ll admit I used to back in the day, but also watched the other cable news channels as well), so I heard jokes about The Five but didn’t really think they could be that… obtuse. But I was just on the FNC website to see how they’re framing whatever the fuck that was that Trump did today, and there was a video from The Five talking about Jimmy Kimmel. One of the women on the show said something along the lines of “he’s in a bubble, and only wants to talk to people that agree with him…” She said it without a hint of irony or, apparently, any sense of self-awareness. That 30 seconds or so of watching The Five might have killed more brain cells than all of the drinking I did in undergrad, law school, and in my first two years of practice.
I miss a President who could speak in sentences and didn’t lie about anything and everything.
I want Obama back in the white house.
re: #250 fern01
I miss a President who could speak in sentences and didn’t lie about anything and everything.
I want Obama back in the white house.
Patience. Malia is far too young.
Hundreds protest PED science standards in SF https://t.co/FsScPj1Nzt pic.twitter.com/Xdeq11j56T
— Albuquerque Journal (@ABQJournal) October 16, 2017
I hope Gov. Martinez & the PED are paying close attention to the strong outcry against their proposed new science standards for NM schools. https://t.co/5RjKdFcBWc
— MichelleLujanGrisham (@RepLujanGrisham) October 16, 2017
SANTA FE — Hundreds of speakers jammed a Santa Fe auditorium today to express opposition to science standards proposed by the Public Education Department.
Some 200 scientists, teachers and students signed up to speak at the public hearing that began at 9 a.m. and continued into the afternoon.
As of 1:45 p.m., all the speakers were opposed to the proposed PED standards and urged a hearing officer to adopt the Next Generation Science Standards as proposed in 2013 by a consortium of states and science groups.
Several criticized the PED for scheduling the meeting on a school day.
[…]
That’s half the article.
NOW: The Eiffel Tower will go dark to honor victims of the truck bombings in Somalia. https://t.co/Ioy5Y6QBBG
— AJ+ (@ajplus) October 16, 2017
re: #249 KGxvi
I don’t watch Fox News (I’ll admit I used to back in the day, but also watched the other cable news channels as well), so I heard jokes about The Five but didn’t really think they could be that… obtuse. But I was just on the FNC website to see how they’re framing whatever the fuck that was that Trump did today, and there was a video from The Five talking about Jimmy Kimmel. One of the women on the show said something along the lines of “he’s in a bubble, and only wants to talk to people that agree with him…” She said it without a hint of irony or, apparently, any sense of self-awareness. That 30 seconds or so of watching The Five might have killed more brain cells than all of the drinking I did in undergrad, law school, and in my first two years of practice.
FOX doesn’t just present information or misinformation, it creates a world. It’s actually an interesting academic exercise if you can divorce your mind from the pure evil of it. It’s both micro and macro - immersive imagery, a carefully constructed narrative, but also constant use of phrases and words to reinforce, so that even exposure for a few seconds reinforces the worldview. You can walk past a TV with FOX on and casually hear a phrase like ‘we know Obama hated the Constitution’ (as I heard recently), and such an explosive lie isn’t even central to any particular story on the network, it’s just a casually tossed around lie that seems so minor in the context of the day of lies. But it’s not minor - it’s part of a deliberate plan to smother viewers with a blanket narrative that alters their very reality.
I went back through my post history recently, to see just when it was that I first started here. Interesting, if self-indulgent. But I note that even from my very first post, almost 9 years ago now, I was saying how oppressively evil FOX was and how existential a threat it was. I’m not happy to see that come true.
re: #255 Renaissance_Man
how oppressively evil FOX was and how existential a threat it was
Can’t be said enough. Best Dem messaging in the world is useless against this machine.
JUST IN: US Senate approves Callista Gingrich, lifelong Catholic and wife of Newt Gingrich, as US amb. to the Holy See at the Vatican. pic.twitter.com/zxfgELKqy4
— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) October 16, 2017
re: #256 JordanRules
Can’t be said enough. Best Dem messaging in the world is useless against this machine.
The only thing I can think of that might work is for the mainstream media to go all-in on an anti-GOP messaging operation, to counterbalance Fox News. As long as no lies were told in the anti-GOP messaging operation, it would still (IMO) count as ethical journalism.
Unfortunately this will never happen. The great both-siderist lie is way too well entrenched in the media.
re: #258 EPR-radar
I think about what can be done about it a lot. It’s such a major problem with no resolution in sight.
re: #195 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
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“and those giggling hookers will be the first in line!”, he added.
re: #258 EPR-radar
The only thing I can think of that might work is for the mainstream media to go all-in on an anti-GOP messaging operation, to counterbalance Fox News. As long as no lies were told in the anti-GOP messaging operation, it would still (IMO) count as ethical journalism.
Unfortunately this will never happen. The great both-siderist lie is way too well entrenched in the media.
It doesn’t have to be anti-GOP. It just has to be factual and honest. Foreign news orgs like the BBC aren’t deliberately anti-GOP. FOX has successfully (in the US) framed reporting of facts and fact-checking as anti-GOP and part of a liberal agenda. That’s how authoritarian regimes have always worked - frame truth as just an alternative to lies, and attack things that are factual as partisan.
I said before that I was always confused as to why the mainstream media orgs like CNN and the NYT were so willing to parrot whatever lies they heard from far right media and debate them as factual. Partly this is because of the sports-show style of reporting that has infected all of US media - present everything like a set of equally viable options so everyone feels included, even idiots and Nazis. But partly, I now realise, it is because the paradigm of white, middle class superiority in the US didn’t start with FOX. It’s been there much longer, and has been perpetuated by the mainstream media outlets forever. They’ve based their creation of US culture on this idea - that white, middle class people are the dominant paradigm and must be catered to, and that other cultures, people and ideas exist, but only as entertainment, as cool things for white people to look at. And when other people and cultures are associated with something bad, then it needs to be attacked, if only because it makes white people feel more united at this external threat, but when white people are associated with something bad, then the narrative must normalise it, lest white middle class Americans feel uncomfortable or threatened. This isn’t FOX’s narrative, they just decided they were going to be the most brazen about it. And so the mainstream media can’t counter this narrative - it would be contrary to everything they’ve ever been. They can only rebrand it.
re: #259 JordanRules
I think about what can be done about it a lot. It’s such a major problem with no resolution in sight.
Realistically, I think more sensible voting has no chance of happening unless there is some kind of major man-made disaster (e.g., another Great Depression) and voters place blame appropriately (which is a depressingly low chance with Fox News + the MSM tilting the table to favor the GOP).
The fact that the GOP has near-perfect blame displacement shields vs. all their nonsense from the W Bush years does not bode well.
Interesting news today - even if it is about one of yesterday’s causes (demi-)celebres: closure in the Bowe Bergdahl desertion case (via John Cole @ Balloon Juice):
Denouement: Bergdahl pled guilty: no further court-martial; sentencing to be on Oct. 23.
Not quite the end-of-story: but at least an end.
re: #261 Renaissance_Man
Factual and honest reporting on the GOP would be relentlessly negative because that is the truth of the GOP — it is a death cult masquerading as a political party.
Honest reporting on the GOP could easily lead to a perfect inversion of the example of #255 “Joe Blow (R) appears to be interested in following the rule of law in this instance, most unusually for a member of his party.”
re: #263 Jay C
Interesting news today - even if it is about one of yesterday’s causes (demi-)celebres: closure in the Bowe Bergdahl desertion case (via John Cole @ Balloon Juice):
Denouement: Bergdahl pled guilty: no further court-martial; sentencing to be on Oct. 23.
Not quite the end-of-story: but at least an end.
He’s trying to throw himself on the mercy of the court, which I don’t think he’s gonna get much of, seeing as other soldiers were seriously injured searching for him.
Right or wrong, seeing as, AFAIK, the US military prison system has no parole, Bergdahl is probably going to end up breaking rocks into smaller rocks at Leavenworth for the rest of his natural life.
Every one of these focus groups has Dem voters simply unaware of the party message. Trump owns every news cycle. https://t.co/aqYU4TCavY
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) October 16, 2017
Like, every D candidate I cover talks about the economy, jobs, health care, and then focus groups insist Dems don’t do that.
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) October 16, 2017
And this is the shit that makes me tear my hair out and want to disappear into a carton of ice cream. Even if you argue how unrepresentative the focus groups might be, the same problem results: we have zero megaphone, and ones that are out there either ignore dems completely or blast out distortions that obfuscate anything. In other words, even if we laser focus on the issues, none of that filters out, and apparently laser focusing on our opponents means ‘we have no policies’. It’s the perfect catch-22 that we can’t escape from.
re: #258 EPR-radar
The only thing I can think of that might work is for the mainstream media to go all-in on an anti-GOP messaging operation, to counterbalance Fox News. As long as no lies were told in the anti-GOP messaging operation, it would still (IMO) count as ethical journalism.
Unfortunately this will never happen. The great both-siderist lie is way too well entrenched in the media.
From time to time I hear old time journalists say the media learned a lesson in 1972 about the whole Nixon thing and how it was bad for the country to go through the removal of a president.
Funny they seem to forget about the attempts on Bill Clinton. But, maybe that is part of what they mean too.
I think what they are saying is they don’t want to be associated and blamed for taking part in an impeachment.
So it sounds like there may be an agreement or at least an understanding the media does not want to make judgments they want to just report them.
Or, something, something….hey, don’t look at us in other words.
Such pinnacles of integrity.
heh
The inside of a Violin. pic.twitter.com/PQomPFm7fs
— AtomicFact (@Atomicfact) September 26, 2017
This would run you about $3100 a month in D.C. https://t.co/BlE4DSOi6D
— Reggie Cunningham (@kidnoble) October 16, 2017
re: #266 Citizen K
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And this is the shit that makes me tear my hair out and want to disappear into a carton of ice cream. Even if you argue how unrepresentative the focus groups might be, the same problem results: we have zero megaphone, and ones that are out there either ignore dems completely or blast out distortions that obfuscate anything. In other words, even if we laser focus on the issues, none of that filters out, and apparently laser focusing on our opponents means ‘we have no policies’. It’s the perfect catch-22 that we can’t escape from.
It was a 5 person focus group in Racine, WI. Not worth the article, written by a guy who worked on a Republican’s congressional campaign. And I take anything Weigel says with a box of salt.
There are other things to fret over.
re: #267 ObserverArt
From time to time I hear old time journalists say the media learned a lesson in 1972 about the whole Nixon thing and how it was bad for the country to go through the removal of a president.
Funny they seem to forget about the attempts on Bill Clinton. But, maybe that is part of what they mean too.
I think what they are saying is they don’t want to be associated and blamed for taking part in an impeachment.
So it sounds like there may be an agreement or at least an understanding the media does not want to make judgments they want to just report them.
Or, something, something….hey, don’t look at us in other words.
Such pinnacles of integrity.
Perhaps self-preservation will motivate the MSM. You’d have to be pretty stupid to be in the MSM and not know for a fact that you’d be first up against the wall if the Republican base ever gets its way.
re: #270 EPR-radar
Perhaps self-preservation will motivate the MSM. You’d have to be pretty stupid to be in the MSM and not know for a fact that you’d be first up against the wall if the Republican base ever gets its way.
They got word on that during the entire fucking campaign with threats against them during rallies, being penned off and used as scapegoats for the two-minute hates, and his constant demonization of them as “fake news” since the election. They still go out of their way to normalize him, time and time and time again.
It’s not getting through to them, and it probably never will, even once they’re up against the firing wall.
On days like these you have to take the modest amount of good news where you can find it.
In case you relished indulging in a delicious plate of #Kushnerfreude https://t.co/4dtERwA79p
— Fernand R. Amandi (@AmandiOnAir) October 16, 2017
re: #234 JordanRules
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Me too Senator.
I believe the public has the right to know what other countries are taxed lower than ours. And the answer is not “all of them Katie”
You know what happens when someone speaks up and tells it like it is on the Democrat side of things?
I remember someone being truthful about Trump just a year ago. She said something about deplorables and Russians and we know what happened.
Fox went on the attack as did the rest of the wingnut-o-mediasphere. She was out of line. Then the papers and political web sites weighed in.
Result.
Hillary took a beating. Many said it was a mistake of monumental political consequences. A lot of them were Democrats, Sanders Supporters (Oh a whole lot) and then most of the liberal sites and whatever media all said…”Hil, you shouldn’t have done that?”
She is still criticized for being negative and focusing on Trump. A whole bunch of people want her to shut up.
Can’t win fer damn losing. It’s a Democratic Party thing.
We will point out the flaws in our own candidate.
We gotta get over it and stop looking for the perfect candidate first and then we need to be 100% in backing of the candidate when they go in for some damn truth and take shit for it. It is so hard for Democrats to do.
The Republicans take elections doing it.
re: #271 Citizen K
They got word on that during the entire fucking campaign with threats against them during rallies, being penned off and used as scapegoats for the two-minute hates, and his constant demonization of them as “fake news” since the election. They still go out of their way to normalize him, time and time and time again.
It’s not getting through to them, and it probably never will, even once they’re up against the firing wall.
Stalin used to say Capitalists would sell them the rope that would be used to hang them?
This is the MSM: They’ll be trying to interview the members of the firing squad about to kill them to be sure they get “both sides” .
re: #266 Citizen K
This is exactly the same thing that happened during the general election. Tv news would rather show an empty trump podium than give 10 seconds to anything Hillary had to say.
This is not going to change in 2020.
re: #272 bratwurst
On days like these you have to take the modest amount of good news where you can find it.
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He’ll get his FIL to buy it with government money for office space for the government.
Just watch.
re: #257 FormerDirtDart
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JUST IN: US Senate approves Callista Gingrich, lifelong Catholic and wife of Newt Gingrich, as US amb. to the Holy See at the Vatican
Dudes. Isn’t that third wife?
re: #278 dangerman
JUST IN: US Senate approves Callista Gingrich, lifelong Catholic and wife of Newt Gingrich, as US amb. to the Holy See at the Vatican
Dudes. Isn’t that third wife?
Guess who was just confirmed as ambassador?
Shows how you can adulter your way to the Vatican… pic.twitter.com/ORUPun33zo— ALT-Immigration 🛂 (@ALT_uscis) October 16, 2017
re: #258 EPR-radar
The only thing I can think of that might work is for the mainstream media to go all-in on an anti-GOP messaging operation, to counterbalance Fox News. As long as no lies were told in the anti-GOP messaging operation, it would still (IMO) count as ethical journalism.
Unfortunately this will never happen. The great both-siderist lie is way too well entrenched in the media.
Unfortunately this will never happen while The great both-siderist lie is profitable
re: #279 Stanley Sea
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It shows the GOP Senate will approve anyone for anything if trump wants it.
re: #274 ObserverArt
You know what happens when someone speaks up and tells it like it is on the Democrat side of things?
I remember someone being truthful about Trump just a year ago. She said something about deplorables and Russians and we know what happened.
Fox went on the attack as did the rest of the wingnut-o-mediasphere. She was out of line. Then the papers and political web sites weighed in.
Result.
Hillary took a beating. Many said it was a mistake of monumental political consequences. A lot of them were Democrats, Sanders Supporters (Oh a whole lot) and then most of the liberal sites and whatever media all said…”Hil, you shouldn’t have done that?”
She is still criticized for being negative and focusing on Trump. A whole bunch of people want her to shut up.
Can’t win fer damn losing. It’s a Democratic Party thing.
We will point out the flaws in our own candidate.
We gotta get over it and stop looking for the perfect candidate first and then we need to be 100% in backing of the candidate when they go in for some damn truth and take shit for it. It is so hard for Democrats to do.
The Republicans take elections doing it.
The same thing nearly happened with Obama’s “cling bitterly to guns and religion” comment. It is not permitted for Democrats to tell difficult truths about the US. Meanwhile, the GOP is rewarded handsomely for non-stop lying.
re: #266 Citizen K
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And this is the shit that makes me tear my hair out and want to disappear into a carton of ice cream. Even if you argue how unrepresentative the focus groups might be, the same problem results: we have zero megaphone, and ones that are out there either ignore dems completely or blast out distortions that obfuscate anything. In other words, even if we laser focus on the issues, none of that filters out, and apparently laser focusing on our opponents means ‘we have no policies’. It’s the perfect catch-22 that we can’t escape from.
Wingnut Free Beacon FFS.
re: #279 Stanley Sea
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There’s an easy way for this to end up deliciously. She and the Newt go to the Vatican, she presents her credentials, and the Bishop of the Holy See says, “No.”
Done and dusted, get your ass back to the US, you adulterous home wrecker!
.@CharlesMBlow: “Trump can’t hold a candle to Obama, so he’s taking a tiki torch to Obama’s legacy.” https://t.co/21wv28EcMx
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) October 16, 2017
re: #282 EPR-radar
The same thing nearly happened with Obama’s “cling bitterly to guns and religion” comment. It is not permitted for Democrats to tell difficult truths about the US. Meanwhile, the GOP is rewarded handsomely for non-stop lying.
And how much of that is part of the Democrats doing?
I think that is a very important thing to address that no one ever really addresses.
Make the question simple. Do Democrats have a problem being tough at politics and fighting with all it takes? Are we wimps in comparison to the Republicans?
Wimps might not be the best of words, but it does sort of get to the real question.
re: #286 ObserverArt
And how much of that is part of the Democrats doing?
I think that is a very important thing to address that no one ever really addresses.
Make the question simple. Do Democrats have a problem being tough at politics and fighting with all it takes? Are we wimps in comparison to the Republicans?
Wimps might not be the best of words, but it does sort of get to the real question.
Two pillars guide the modern GOP: might makes right, and the end justifies the means.
Just seeing some video of Trump on Tweety Matthews’ show. What is up with his hair? Is he losing all the side stuff he needs to pull off “The Donald?” He looked real bad. It didn’t seem he had spent the usual time or it is thinning and the magic is gone.
re: #285 wrenchwench
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It must be cold and miserable standing in the shadow of someone greater and smarter, more loved and more admired. It must be infuriating to have risen on the wings of your derision of that person’s every decision, and even his very existence, and yet not be able to measure up — in either stratagem or efficacy — when you sit where that person once sat.
And I will relish how this destroys him.
His hair today told the story. Seriously, it matters to him how he thinks he looks & he looks like shit.
re: #288 TedStriker
Two pillars guide the modern GOP: might makes right, and the end justifies the means.
Yep.
A good friend and I spent many a debate over what the Democratic Party and its candidates need to do and how far it should go. I was the moderate voice, my buddy wanted heads and blood.
If he were around today he would be saying…”see this is what happens when you let the other guys play all the dirty tricks and you don’t take them on in somewhat the same way if need be.”
To him. It all counts in politics.
I sometimes think he may have been right.
All it takes is to look at Trump.
And you can’t do a damn thing if you don’t win elections.
re: #286 ObserverArt
Make the question simple. Do Democrats have a problem being tough at politics and fighting with all it takes? Are we wimps in comparison to the Republicans?
From the replies to that David Weigel piece:
Both Hillary and Bernie were far too polite. Make headlines, be outrageously insulting but tie it to proposals voters find attractive.
— Stormwatch (@TElliottCato) October 16, 2017
Also see:
Note to Dems: your political consultants suck. So does your message for the working class. Gr8 @StanGreenberg piece https://t.co/hGlurDpnzG
— Kathleen Geier (@Kathy__Gee) September 25, 2017
Remember how we used to think Robby Mook was a great campaign manager? Hahahaha the exact opposite turned out to be true -_- While Cheeto Benito had Cambridge Analytica and Russian hackers and state-of-the-art social media manipulation, Mook relied on horrendously outdated and inaccurate “data analytics” that were the very manifestation of garbage in, garbage out.
Is it really too much to ask the establishment Dems try fighting fire with fire for a change? Seems to me that local, grassroots activists are doing a far better job getting recent downballot Democratic wins because they actually understand how to talk to people in their communities about the issues they care about.
re: #282 EPR-radar
The same thing nearly happened with Obama’s “cling bitterly to guns and religion” comment. It is not permitted for Democrats to tell difficult truths about the US. Meanwhile, the GOP is rewarded handsomely for non-stop lying.
This is true. But all is not lost.
Ironically, I think the solution also comes from the far right’s endless projection. For years they have insisted that the media is completely against them and they had to find a ‘new media’ to counter the liberal MSM. The truth, of course, is that the media is owned by the far right and completely in thrall to them. But there really is a new media - the internet, and the elements therein.
Facebook news feed, Twitter and the like are real threats to the dominance of the news media. Facebook news feed is probably the largest source of news in human history (or at least I heard that somewhere). At the moment, of course, they are nothing more than breeding grounds for propaganda, misinformation and trolls, real and automated. But this is also the infancy of the internet, and at the moment we as a society do not regulate it, monitor it, or process it well. The next step in human evolution is how we manage this connectivity, and this is how the dominance of traditional media and the culture it has imposed on the US will come to an end. Without their dominance, the narrative they impose on the national conversation, where Democrats are always the bad guys and Republicans suffer no consequences for their crimes, cannot exist. Or, at least, it cannot exist without complete authoritarian crackdown and imposition of a narrative.
In the medium to longer term, the ability to communicate freely and break free of a narrative imposed by authority - whether that authority is a monarch, a dictator, or a series of corporations - will be the next Renaissance.
re: #202 Ace-o-aces
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This is just one of the reasons why I will not desert Twitter.
re: #174 ObserverArt
Good for him.
If people want Twitter to change that is the way to get it done.
The only way.
But yes, it is easy for me to say it, because I don’t use it.
I just hope more and more people decide to start to get this country back in line by dropping their accounts. Twitter and Facebook were apparently happy to allow their ‘tools’ to be used in the campaign. I have the feeling they will never say it, but I bet they see the results of the campaign as proof of how awesome they are and the power they have.
I would never help enable that. They fucked this country over. They should not be rewarded for it.
His rant was extremely well written and grounded but I still feel like “suck my dick” is an odd hill to die on. Like, after getting a second time out for that I’d at least expect him to switch it up a bit.
re: #289 ObserverArt
Just seeing some video of Trump on Tweety Matthews’ show. What is up with his hair? Is he losing all the side stuff he needs to pull off “The Donald?” He looked real bad. It didn’t seem he had spent the usual time or it is thinning and the magic is gone.
I predicted, shortly after the election, that the stress of the job would cause Trump’s hair to thin and fall out, resulting in his resignation since he’s too vain to let his balding show.
I realize now that I was mistaken, since Trump isn’t doing a fraction of the work a normal president does nor is he bothered by the responsibilities of the office. His primary stress appears to be from the negative press or from being called responsible for problems (something his narcissism can’t tolerate). But while I may have been wrong about the cause of the stress, I’m still convinced that his vanity will have more to do with him leaving office than his incompetence.
So let’s all do our part by mocking his appearance, his weight gain and his hair. Make him worry about being mocked for his looks. Yes, it’s juvenile and stupid. But then, so is Dim Buff Un.
re: #300 A Cranky One
I predicted, shortly after the election, that the stress of the job would cause Trump’s hair to thin and fall out, resulting in his resignation since he’s too vain to let his balding show.
I realize now that I was mistaken, since Trump isn’t doing a fraction of the work a normal president does nor is he bothered by the responsibilities of the office. His primary stress appears to be from the negative press or from being called responsible for problems (something his narcissism can’t tolerate). But while I may have been wrong about the cause of the stress, I’m still convinced that his vanity will have more to do with him leaving office than his incompetence.
So let’s all do our part by mocking his appearance, his weight gain and his hair. Make him worry about being mocked for his looks. Yes, it’s juvenile and stupid. But then, so is Dim Buff Un.
I look at it this way.
Do It for The Children!
re: #300 A Cranky One
I predicted, shortly after the election, that the stress of the job would cause Trump’s hair to thin and fall out, resulting in his resignation since he’s too vain to let his balding show.
I realize now that I was mistaken, since Trump isn’t doing a fraction of the work a normal president does nor is he bothered by the responsibilities of the office. His primary stress appears to be from the negative press or from being called responsible for problems (something his narcissism can’t tolerate). But while I may have been wrong about the cause of the stress, I’m still convinced that his vanity will have more to do with him leaving office than his incompetence.
So let’s all do our part by mocking his appearance, his weight gain and his hair. Make him worry about being mocked for his looks. Yes, it’s juvenile and stupid. But then, so is Dim Buff Un.
So well put. Exactly.
re: #300 A Cranky One
I predicted, shortly after the election, that the stress of the job would cause Trump’s hair to thin and fall out, resulting in his resignation since he’s too vain to let his balding show.
I realize now that I was mistaken, since Trump isn’t doing a fraction of the work a normal president does nor is he bothered by the responsibilities of the office. His primary stress appears to be from the negative press or from being called responsible for problems (something his narcissism can’t tolerate). But while I may have been wrong about the cause of the stress, I’m still convinced that his vanity will have more to do with him leaving office than his incompetence.
So let’s all do our part by mocking his appearance, his weight gain and his hair. Make him worry about being mocked for his looks. Yes, it’s juvenile and stupid. But then, so is Dim Buff Un.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the #TheResistance.I give you #DeceitfulDonald.Fake #POTUS @realDonaldTrump you are a Disgrace.Resign or b impeached pic.twitter.com/Rk57lHgZmF
— The Resistance NY (@nikki_aurelius) October 16, 2017
re: #265 TedStriker
He’s trying to throw himself on the mercy of the court, which I don’t think he’s gonna get much of, seeing as other soldiers were seriously injured searching for him.
Right or wrong, seeing as, AFAIK, the US military prison system has no parole, Bergdahl is probably going to end up breaking rocks into smaller rocks at Leavenworth for the rest of his natural life.
As an attorney, I find this incomprehensible. How can he plead guilty without a plea deal? This is incredibly stupid, self destructive and certainly against the advice of counsel. Is he representing himself?
re: #257 FormerDirtDart
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So…we’re going into the sale of indulgences business now…
re: #304 gocart mozart
As an attorney, I find this incomprehensible. How can he plead guilty without a plea deal? This is incredibly stupid, self destructive and certainly against the advice of counsel. Is he representing himself?
Dunno: the below is a paste from John Cole’s post at BJ:
The Latest on the court-martial of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who walked off his post in Afghanistan (all times local):
11:20 a.m.
A military prosecutor says he has made no agreement to limit punishment for Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl in return for the soldier’s guilty pleas to charges that he endangered comrades by walking off his post in Afghanistan in 2009.
After Bergdahl entered guilty pleas to desertion and misbehavior before the enemy, the prosecutor, Maj. Justin Oshana, told the judge that there’s no pretrial agreement between the two sides.
The judge, Army Col. Judge Jeffery R. Nance, spent Monday morning asking Bergdahl questions to make sure he understands what he’s pleading guilty to, and that his offenses carry a maximum punishment of life in prison. The judge asked him one last time if he wanted to plead guilty, and Bergdahl replied, “yes.”
Sounds strange to me, too: but there we are…
And off to the next post!