Another Great Solo Video From the Tallest Man on Earth: “I’m a Stranger Now”

Spoiler: he’s not really the tallest man on Earth
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“I’m a Stranger Now” is the seventh episode of The Light in Demos, a video project produced, written, directed, recorded, shot and edited by The Tallest Man on Earth.

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Lyrics:

when every wind is an afterlife out here
what language do you dream in when you’re drunk?
and feel just like a map of where you’ve been
and all the smoke and mirrors you’ve hung

if only this one held the answer to the aching of our hearts

a little drop of poison in the rain
a little drop of madness in my heart
it’s nothing but now nothing is in it’s way
look nervously at things that come apart

if only this one held the answer to
our loneliness and all

through days we love through days we disappear
to go for all the things behind a cloud
I’m a stranger now
and where will I undress to disappear
to go for all the things I’m here to find
I’m a stranger now

from ocean to the valley to the skin
I mumble to myself and miss your call
I run around but look for you within
the little stir of hope into it all

If only this one held the answer to the loneliness and all

through days we love through days we disappear
to go for all the things behind a cloud
I’m a stranger now
and where will I undress to disappear
to go for all the things I’m here to find
I’m a stranger now

a little drop of madness in the rain
a little drop of madness in my heart
it’s nothing but will nothing grow away
look nervously at things that come apart

if only this one held the answer to
our loneliness and all

through days we love through days we disappear
to go for all the things behind a cloud
we are strangers now
and where will we undress to disappear
to go for all the things we’re here to find
we are strangers now

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539 comments

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b_sharp  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:27:23pm

I’ve always wondered about how the name was developed.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:33:44pm

So do we dub this Mueller Eve? Indictment Eve? It’s like waiting for Christmas morning right now.

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Interesting Times  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:36:55pm
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b_sharp  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:37:44pm

re: #3 Interesting Times

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Thanks Conan, but I already have one.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:38:23pm

Hey Gang! Let’s Play Indictment Bingo tomorrow!

And Look Who’s in the Center Square!
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:41:02pm
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scottslemmons  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:41:03pm

So I’ve been a member on a writing website for over 18 years, and every year, I run a Halloween writing quest during the whole month of October. People get to write fiction, poetry, factual stuff, whatever they want to, as long as it’s related to Halloween. I’ve been wanting to write one more piece before the end of the month, and I’d hit on the idea of writing up Val Lewton, producer of horror films like Cat People, I Walked with a Zombie, The Seventh Victim, etc. I spent two days writing up his biography, went to post it — and discovered I’d already written him up 15 years ago. :(

So now I’m trying to bash out some goddamn horror doggerel to make up for my errors.

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mmmirele  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:42:11pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

So do we dub this Mueller Eve? Indictment Eve? It’s like waiting for Christmas morning right now.

Are we sure that Mueller is going to let indictments drop tomorrow? Has he given any indication? As far as I can tell, it’s all “maybe he will” but he’s said nothing.

I got sidetracked by this article on the front page when I went over to the WaPo to try and get an answer to this question:

Rod Dreher is the combative, oversharing blogger who speaks for today’s beleaguered Christians

washingtonpost.com

And I’m thinking, “Really? Really? You guys are giving space to a guy who is flatly and firmly anti-LGBT without putting it fucking up front in the article? Hello?”

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:44:36pm

re: #8 mmmirele

Are we sure that Mueller is going to let indictments drop tomorrow? Has he given any indication? As far as I can tell, it’s all “maybe he will” but he’s said nothing.

I got sidetracked by this article on the front page when I went over to the WaPo to try and get an answer to this question:

washingtonpost.com

And I’m thinking, “Really? Really? You guys are giving space to a guy who is flatly and firmly anti-LGBT without putting it fucking up front in the article? Hello?”

Fair point, the best we’ve heard is “as early as Monday,” indicating that we still might be waiting a day or two. But the fact that he’s filed means the arrests are coming. Question is do we get perp walks or will he allow them to surrender.

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:45:40pm

3-0 Dodgers

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:45:49pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

So do we dub this Mueller Eve? Indictment Eve? It’s like waiting for Christmas morning right now.

The Older Boy and I were discussing this. We decided to actively reduce our expectations. That way it’s more likely to be a pleasant surprise.

The thing about Andrew Laufer Esq. ( tweet on last thread) is he is kind of part of the Schindler/Mench orbit. I’m concerned he’s getting ahead of himself.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:46:03pm

re: #8 mmmirele

Dreher can bullshit all he wants but he cannot accept the fact the Christianity is now in permanent decline and will fade into irrelevance. And he’s one of the main reasons why Christianity is dying!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:46:47pm

re: #8 mmmirele

That article is absolutely maddening.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:48:27pm

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

Dreher can bullshit all he wants but he cannot accept the fact the Christianity is now in permanent decline and will fade into irrelevance.

It’s just moving into the impoverished parts of the world, where it fits the niche. If our Brave Leaders screw up the global economy, start a few wars, and release some plagues it will be back.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:48:39pm

re: #11 Blind Frog Belly White

The Older Boy and I were discussing this. We decided to actively reduce our expectations. That way it’s more likely to be a pleasant surprise.

The thing about Andrew Laufer Esq. ( tweet on last thread) is he is kind of part of the Schindler/Mench orbit. I’m concerned he’s getting ahead of himself.

I’m not getting my hopes sky high, but I am fairly sure that he’s not going to be grabbing some guy off the street. It’s going to be somebody from the Trump inner circle and that will get the ball rolling. Either because they’ll roll, or Trump will be stupid enough to do something that will be the “bridge too far” for voters.

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:49:15pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:50:14pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

It’s just moving into the impoverished parts of the world, where it fits the niche. If our Brave Leaders screw up the global economy, start a few wars, and release some plagues it will be back.

Marx was wrong about a lot of things be he sure hit a bulls-eye when he said that religion is the opiate of the masses…

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:51:08pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon 🌹

Marx was wrong about a lot of things be he sure hit a bulls-eye when he said that religion is the opiate of the masses…

Opiates are one of Medicine’s great boons.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:52:16pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:52:19pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

Opiates are one of Medicine’s great boons.

Opiates are one of PHARMA’s big boons.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 5:56:08pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

Opiates are one of PHARMA’s big boons.

Been trapped for a weekend without any, throwing a kidney stone. Opiates are our friends.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:00:52pm

Because I’m an engineer and can’t let some thing go, I’m playing once again with the apple analogy:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:01:39pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

Been trapped for a weekend without any, throwing a kidney stone. Opiates are our friends.

I tried Norco last time I had a bad episode.

Day one, felt good! REAL good.

Day two, felt shitty, and not from pain. Stopped taking it.

Day four, FINALLY pooped.

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Nyet  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:02:09pm

I just remember the Fitzmas and what a bummer that was. Don’t get your hopes up too high.

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b_sharp  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:02:23pm

re: #22 Belafon

Because I’m an engineer and can’t let some thing go, I’m playing once again with the apple analogy:

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That’s why median or mode are sometimes a better metric.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:02:41pm

re: #22 Belafon

Because I’m an engineer and can’t let some thing go, I’m playing once again with the apple analogy:

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Median is a better statistic here than mean, as always for a skewed dataset.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:02:52pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:02:58pm

re: #23 Blind Frog Belly White

I tried Norco last time I had a bad episode.

Day one, felt good! REAL good.

Day two, felt shitty, and not from pain. Stopped taking it.

Day four, FINALLY pooped.

I managed it with Tullamore Dew, a LOT of Tullamore Dew.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:03:04pm

re: #25 b_sharp

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Great minds and all that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:04:12pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

I managed it with Tullamore Dew, a LOT of Tullamore Dew.

In my case, I could have used a Pile Driver - you know, Vodka and Prune Juice….

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b_sharp  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:04:17pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

Great minds and all that.

I’ve watched right wing orgs lie using the mean when they should have used the median.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:05:15pm

re: #31 b_sharp

I’ve watched right wing orgs lie using the mean when they should have used the median.

Nowadays, they don’t even bother with using the wrong metric. They just fucking make it up from whole cloth.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:06:15pm

re: #24 Nyet

I just remember the Fitzmas and what a bummer that was. Don’t get your hopes up too high.

My best recommendation would be to assume that the very first arrests are going to be for charges on which Mueller feels confident he can get an easy conviction. Which probably means financial shenanigans or false statements (i.e. lying to the FBI). The expectation being that he’ll work his way up the food chain.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:06:27pm

re: #31 b_sharp

I’ve watched right wing orgs lie using the mean when they should have used the median.

Edward Bellamy described a utopia where the income mean and mode were the same.

gutenberg.org

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:07:33pm

I got my Halloween lights working on my two Raspberry Pi boxes. The boxes, in turn, are being controlled from the computer I’m talking to you on. I have successfully reduced Halloween lights to a programming problem. Now, I have some Python code that causes the lights to do various sequences. I run the program, walk outside, check to see how aesthetically appealing it looks, run inside and make some tweaks, and run back out to see how it looks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:08:13pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

My best recommendation would be to assume that the very first arrests are going to be for charges on which Mueller feels confident he can get an easy conviction. Which probably means financial shenanigans or false statements (i.e. lying to the FBI). The expectation being that he’ll work his way up the food chain.

I figure Manafort’s balls in a vise. Trump likes Flynn, and already cut Manafort loose - “Worked briefly with the campaign”.

But what the fuck do I know?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:09:31pm

re: #35 Belafon

I got my Halloween lights working on my two Raspberry Pi boxes. The boxes, in turn, are being controlled from the computer I’m talking to you on. I have successfully reduced Halloween lights to a programming problem. Now, I have some Python code that causes the lights to do various sequences. I run the program, walk outside, check to see how aesthetically appealing it looks, run inside and make some tweaks, and run back out to see how it looks.

Can you post video?

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:09:57pm

re: #24 Nyet

I just remember the Fitzmas and what a bummer that was. Don’t get your hopes up too high.

Democrats don’t need to rely on these to fix things, because even if Trump is brought down, it still won’t fix the Republican party. Use any of these to show the corruption in the party, the propaganda outfit that Fox is part of, and that there is only one party that is truly looking out for the country.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:11:53pm

re: #8 mmmirele

I’d love to know how exactly Christians are “beleaguered” in a country which is dominated by (Rightwing) Christians. White Evangelicals gave us Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:14:08pm

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

I’d love to know how exactly Christians are “beleaguered” in a country which is dominated by (Rightwing) Christians. White Evangelicals gave us Trump.

They’re ‘beleaguered’ because we no longer officially hate the people they hate, because they no longer get to use the power of the state to punish people for having sex they don’t approve of.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:14:58pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re ‘beleaguered’ because we no longer officially hate the people they hate, because they no longer get to use the power of the state to punish people for having sex they don’t approve of.

*DINGDINGDING* We have a winner!

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:15:05pm

re: #24 Nyet

I just remember the Fitzmas and what a bummer that was. Don’t get your hopes up too high.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if nothing happens tomorrow.

Mueller has everyone’s attention now. Maybe he’ll just the pressure build for a few days and wait for someone to either flip or do something stupid.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:15:32pm

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

I’d love to know how exactly Christians are “beleaguered” in a country which is dominated by (Rightwing) Christians. White Evangelicals gave us Trump.

The Trump win was so tissue-thin that you can accurately say that damn near anything gave us Trump.

(Yeah—close only counts in horseshoes and nuclear exchanges.)

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:16:00pm

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

Dreher can bullshit all he wants but he cannot accept the fact the Christianity is now in permanent decline and will fade into irrelevance. And he’s one of the main reasons why Christianity is dying!

It will be a long time before it fades into irrelevance in non-Western countries though. Africans and Asians tend to be very religious (with the main exception being Japan).

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:16:13pm
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scottslemmons  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:17:23pm

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

Dreher can bullshit all he wants but he cannot accept the fact the Christianity is now in permanent decline and will fade into irrelevance. And he’s one of the main reasons why Christianity is dying!

I’m not sure it’s dying anymore. I think it’s transforming into something more radical, more dangerous, and significantly less Christian than it used to be.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:17:54pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Baby steps.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:17:58pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:20:30pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

Unfortunately if Trump gets to appoint a few more Justices to SCOTUS, all that could change. Sessions is supporting the dolts who refuse to sell flowers to gays when that case goes before SCOTUS.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:22:54pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:24:48pm

re: #3 Interesting Times

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:24:49pm

re: #49 Patricia Kayden

Unfortunately if Trump gets to appoint a few more Justices to SCOTUS, all that could change. Sessions is supporting the dolts who refuse to sell flowers to gays when that case goes before SCOTUS.

So, if you sell flowers to a gay couple, you’re participating in their wedding, but if you sell 10 AR15s, 10 bump stocks, and a couple thousand rounds of ammunition to somebody who kills 59 people, it has nothing to do with you.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:25:55pm

Dan McLaughlin is a right wing asshole who should just sit down and shut up after the way he enthusiastically enabled the climate that led to Trump in the White House. Just sayin’.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:26:34pm

re: #52 Blind Frog Belly White

So, if you sell flowers to a gay couple, you’re participating in their wedding, but if you sell 10 AR15s, 10 bump stocks, and a couple thousand rounds of ammunition to somebody who kills 59 people, it has nothing to do with you.

Wow, you must have a Ph.D. in Derpology.////

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:28:06pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Dan McLaughlin is a right wing asshole who should just sit down and shut up after the way he enthusiastically enabled the climate that led to Trump in the White House. Just sayin’.

I posted that mostly for Yglesias’ responses, especially “If I was Paul Manafort, I’d have been deeply in debt to Russian oligarchs who wanted me to join the Trump campaign.”

Someone completely reamed McLaughlin on Twitter last week or so. It was beautiful. Wish I could remember who.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:29:41pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

Can you post video?

Working on it.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:31:49pm

re: #52 Blind Frog Belly White

Rightwing “logic”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:39:14pm

There may be arrests at dawn, but just remember that it takes more than an indictment/arrest.

These asshats need to be tried, convicted, and sentenced.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:40:35pm

Hacking the Holocaust (Medium)
Remembering the data pirates, forgers, and social engineers who saved thousands.

Via MetaFilter.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:44:57pm
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Cheechako  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:45:21pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

There may be arrests at dawn, but just remember that it takes more than an indictment/arrest.

These asshats need to be tried, convicted, and sentenced.

One of the larger, future problems is finding jurors who are intelligent enough to understand the complexities of the up-coming trials.

See: the Bundy Bunch Trials

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:46:44pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:46:45pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:46:58pm

re: #59 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Hacking the Holocaust (Medium)
Remembering the data pirates, forgers, and social engineers who saved thousands.

Via MetaFilter.

That’s a spectacular article.

“It’s a simple calculation: In one hour I can make 30 blank documents; if I sleep for an hour, 30 people will die.”

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:49:40pm

So, I don’t post stuff (see the fact that I’ve done zero pages here). What’s the best place and way to post video?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:49:41pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:50:30pm

re: #65 Belafon

So, I don’t post stuff (see the fact that I’ve done zero pages here). What’s the best place and way to post video?

Upload it to YouTube, then post the link, which will embed the video.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:50:55pm

re: #59 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Hacking the Holocaust (Medium)
Remembering the data pirates, forgers, and social engineers who saved thousands.

Via MetaFilter.

Ugh. All that makes me think of is if there’s something more I can possibly do to resist the oncoming tide of white supremacy and nationalism. It’s like, is there anything little old Middle America me can do to provide assistance to those who need relief from the oppression of the alt-right and their allies in power?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:52:05pm

Yep, keepin’ it weird…..

Man dressed as Santa shoots three people at Halloween party

Police say three people have been hospitalized after a man dressed as Santa Claus shot them at a Halloween party early Sunday in Central Austin. The suspect has been apprehended, police said.

Police detective Lee Knouse said the gunman knew the victims and had been attending the party.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:52:38pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Yep, keepin’ it weird…..

Man dressed as Santa shoots three people at Halloween party

Texas. Of fucking course.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:53:50pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Yep, keepin’ it weird…..

Man dressed as Santa shoots three people at Halloween party

First shots fired in the War On Christmas.
//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:55:51pm

this looks…not very good…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:56:20pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

this looks…not very good…

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Aw, c’mon. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:56:42pm

re: #71 Blind Frog Belly White

First shots fired in the War On Christmas.
//

Boooooooooooooooo

Boooooooooooooooo

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:58:15pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 6:59:33pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

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No matter how great or small, it’s progress, and that is a Good Thing (tm).

On that subject, Mrs. Fish spent last weekend with her most progressive sister and sister-in-law. They universally agreed, together, that the Trump Administration has set us back decades of cultural progress for equal rights. I really can’t agree more with them.

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scottslemmons  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:00:02pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Yep, keepin’ it weird…..

Man dressed as Santa shoots three people at Halloween party

When you’re really dedicated to ruining two major holidays for your friends…

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scottslemmons  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:01:15pm

re: #68 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ugh. All that makes me think of is if there’s something more I can possibly do to resist the oncoming tide of white supremacy and nationalism. It’s like, is there anything little old Middle America me can do to provide assistance to those who need relief from the oppression of the alt-right and their allies in power?

I worry about the same thing. I’m never going to be able to travel to Washington for a march. There’s nothing I can do but think good thoughts at people, and that drives me nuts.

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gocart mozart  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:03:03pm

re: #73 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That is heading directly toward my front porch! 30 miles north West of Bridgeport.

It’s just normal raining now but …

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:03:44pm

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:04:14pm

re: #68 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ugh. All that makes me think of is if there’s something more I can possibly do to resist the oncoming tide of white supremacy and nationalism. It’s like, is there anything little old Middle America me can do to provide assistance to those who need relief from the oppression of the alt-right and their allies in power?

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calochortus  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:04:22pm

re: #79 scottslemmons

I worry about the same thing. I’m never going to be able to travel to Washington for a march. There’s nothing I can do but think good thoughts at people, and that drives me nuts.

Being kind and being alert to anyone feeling uncomfortable so you can just chat them up and make them feel safer, is doing something.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:04:50pm

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

Mine isn’t anywhere near that complicated. But, might light system is very modular.re: #79 scottslemmons

I worry about the same thing. I’m never going to be able to travel to Washington for a march. There’s nothing I can do but think good thoughts at people, and that drives me nuts.

When you see people trying to play “whites are awesome, the rest of you suck” stand against it. See if there are rallies in your area. GOTV. Donate to various causes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:04:59pm

re: #80 gocart mozart

That is heading directly toward my front porch!

It’s just normal raining now but …

Sorry. I shouldn’t make light of a natural disaster even if it isn’t aimed directly at a lizard.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:05:33pm

re: #79 scottslemmons

I worry about the same thing. I’m never going to be able to travel to Washington for a march. There’s nothing I can do but think good thoughts at people, and that drives me nuts.

You’ve got a courthouse. Find a few friends and make a fool of yourself for an afternoon.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:05:53pm

4-4, bottom 4th

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:05:59pm

And people said this was going to be a boring Series!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:06:41pm

re: #87 FormerDirtDart

4-4, bottom 4th

?

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:08:03pm

re: #89 I Would Prefer Not To

Houston just homered to tie it.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:08:31pm

re: #90 meteor

Houston just homered to tie it.

I’m behind the times.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:09:17pm

re: #80 gocart mozart

That is heading directly toward my front porch! 30 miles north West of Bridgeport.

It’s just normal raining now but …

Pretty wild here right now. Getting more windy and raining harder than it rained at any point today. Might be a rough night here.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:09:44pm

Night people. Hope you all have a much better night than any person in the trump admin.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:11:42pm

New X Files commercial
Coming 2018
I’m guessing another short season

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calochortus  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:12:01pm

OT, but I was reminded of a woman I saw a couple days ago who found a great use for her hijab. She had tucked her phone in between scarf and ear and was able to chat with her hands free.
Could the anti-Islam crowd simply be jealous that they have to use some sort of headphone to talk hands free?
/

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:12:40pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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Another reference to Mueller treating this like a mob case.

And the possibility of arrests in other countries is intriguing. Imagine if Scotland Yard went into the embassy and grabbed Assange.

I have no clue what’s going to happen tomorrow, but it’s clear that Mueller is serious.

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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:12:57pm

Interesting thread.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:14:30pm

re: #96 makeitstop

Another reference to Mueller treating this like a mob case.

And the possibility of arrests in other countries is intriguing. Imagine if Scotland Yard went into the embassy and grabbed Assange.

I have no clue what’s going to happen tomorrow, but it’s clear that Mueller is serious.

Oh man that’d be perfect.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:16:52pm

now I’m really going to sleep. Luv you guys. Had a beer or two.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:19:40pm

Parlor game: Name the highest ranking person in the Trump administration who has no realistic chance of being indicted.

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:20:03pm

re: #5 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sorry there’s a bunch of names missing from that list that are far more likely:

Deven Nunes
Dana Rohrabacher
Jason Chaffetz

Then you’ve got the usual suspects (Trump, spawn, Bannon, Manafort, Stone, etc) plus a few more:
Stephen Miller
Boris Epshteyn

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:20:07pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Parlor game: Name the highest ranking person in the Trump administration who has no realistic chance of being indicted.

Mattis.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:20:23pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Parlor game: Name the highest ranking person in the Trump administration who has no realistic chance of being indicted.

Mike Pence. Anyone below the VP is fair game at this point, but I feel Mueller won’t go after the top end of the Administration until he’s got ironclad evidence and several smaller fish in the basket.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:20:25pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:20:59pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Mattis.

Good one.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:21:47pm

re: #103 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mike Pence. Anyone below the VP is fair game at this point, but I feel Mueller won’t go after the top end of the Administration until he’s got ironclad evidence and several smaller fish in the basket.

Nope. Not likely in the first wave, but he’s been tied-in to Russian shit.

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scottslemmons  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:21:49pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Parlor game: Name the highest ranking person in the Trump administration who has no realistic chance of being indicted.

I think I’ve read Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin is considered the only non-crazy member of Trump’s Cabinet.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:22:17pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Nope. Not likely in the first wave, but he’s been tied-in to Russian shit.

That’s my point. First wave, almost definitely not. Eventually, it’s a virtual certainty.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:22:48pm

re: #105 Decatur Deb

Good one.

VA sec too. I’d say Carson too. He’s an idiot but I don’t think involved in the collusion.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:23:17pm

re: #108 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s my point. First wave, almost definitely not. Eventually, it’s a virtual certainty.

I should have defined the time-frame as open-ended.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:23:39pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

I should have defined the time-frame as open-ended.

Oh, okay. In that case, yeah, I got nothin’.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:25:02pm

re: #111 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, okay. In that case, yeah, I got nothin’.

Tragically, this could lead to more prison over-crowding.

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:25:17pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, just had our power go out for a couple of hours this evening. Probably had branches short out the lines to our neighborhood. Not too bad considering.

We’re far enough inland that we’re not likely to see the high winds, but Long Island’s probably going to get hammered.

5 years following Sandy….

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:25:33pm

And zaaaaah! 7-4 Dodgers after a big home run.

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b_sharp  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:26:21pm

re: #77 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No matter how great or small, it’s progress, and that is a Good Thing (tm).

On that subject, Mrs. Fish spent last weekend with her most progressive sister and sister-in-law. They universally agreed, together, that the Trump Administration has set us back decades of cultural progress for equal rights. I really can’t agree more with them.

He’s doing his damnedest to set the US environmental state back to 50s level as well.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:26:25pm

re: #113 lawhawk

Well, just had our power go out for a couple of hours this evening. Probably had branches short out the lines to our neighborhood. Not too bad considering.

We’re far enough inland that we’re not likely to see the high winds, but Long Island’s probably going to get hammered.

5 years following Sandy….

We’re getting it as I type this. I’m glad I don’t have to go anywhere tonight.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:27:21pm

re: #112 Decatur Deb

Tragically, this could lead to more prison over-crowding.

The Trump-humpers deserve it. We should let some of the other criminals go, aren’t there laws against cruel and unusual punishment?

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Stanley Sea  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:29:35pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:31:31pm
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b_sharp  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:32:38pm

re: #118 Stanley Sea

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Hmm. Does being a wingnut lead you to being a misogynist or does being a misogynist lead to being a wingnut, or is it some third shortcoming that contributes to both?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:33:46pm

re: #120 b_sharp

Hmm. Does being a wingnut lead you to being a misogynist or does being a misogynist lead to being a wingnut, or is it some third shortcoming that contributes to both?

It’s not always short.

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b_sharp  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:34:34pm

re: #121 Decatur Deb

It’s not always short.

The water was cold.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:35:03pm

I just went outside for a minute. I’d guess that we’re getting sustained winds of 30-40 MPH, with gusts that are pretty damn scary, maybe 50-60. Rain has stopped for the moment, but we’re probably going to have a good bit of flooding.

And it’s warmer now than it was this afternoon. So weird.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:35:11pm

re: #120 b_sharp

Hmm. Does being a wingnut lead you to being a misogynist or does being a misogynist lead to being a wingnut, or is it some third shortcoming that contributes to both?

From my point of view, being a wingnut is what comes first, as that’s what gets ingrained in you. Everything else follows from that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:36:37pm

re: #119 FormerDirtDart

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Failing ratings! Sad!

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:36:44pm

re: #123 makeitstop

That’s the tropical air coming through, and there’s a dry slot so the winds pick up but it’s going to power the rain for later as the storm spins out.

Stay safe!

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:36:54pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:37:28pm

re: #124 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

From my point of view, being a wingnut is what comes first, as that’s what gets ingrained in you. Everything else follows from that.

The commonality is to grow up without somehow learning that other people are valuable.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:38:01pm

re: #127 lawhawk

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Not his usual bullshit day.

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b_sharp  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:38:38pm

re: #123 makeitstop

I just went outside for a minute. I’d guess that we’re getting sustained winds of 30-40 MPH, with gusts that are pretty damn scary, maybe 50-60. Rain has stopped for the moment, but we’re probably going to have a good bit of flooding.

And it’s warmer now than it was this afternoon. So weird.

We’re getting the first snow of the season & the wind is gusting to about 50 mph. Looks like winter finally got here.

I’m liking these El Nino years for our weather. I know it increases the scariness for people near the coast, so it is’t good for them.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:38:51pm

re: #126 lawhawk

That’s the tropical air coming through, and there’s a dry slot so the winds pick up but it’s going to power the rain for later as the storm spins out.

Stay safe!

I’m glad we got the big oaks trimmed back before Irma. Might pay off tonight.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:39:15pm

re: #7 scottslemmons

So I’ve been a member on a writing website for over 18 years, and every year, I run a Halloween writing quest during the whole month of October. People get to write fiction, poetry, factual stuff, whatever they want to, as long as it’s related to Halloween. I’ve been wanting to write one more piece before the end of the month, and I’d hit on the idea of writing up Val Lewton, producer of horror films like Cat People, I Walked with a Zombie, The Seventh Victim, etc. I spent two days writing up his biography, went to post it — and discovered I’d already written him up 15 years ago. :(

So now I’m trying to bash out some goddamn horror doggerel to make up for my errors.

It was a dark and stormy night…..

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:39:44pm

re: #128 Decatur Deb

The commonality is to grow up without somehow learning that other people are valuable.

You know, there’s something to that. As mentioned, I grew up in some extremely conservative churches. The major theme was that people had value only as much as they could provide to the local church. It gave us an easy way to dismiss other people as “less than us” if they weren’t able to be as involved in Churchianity as us affluent white people.

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b_sharp  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:41:19pm

re: #132 dangerman

It was a dark and stormy night…..

Not “It was a stark & dorky night”?

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:42:15pm

re: #132 dangerman

It was a dark and stormy night…..

and then the murders started. MUUU-HA-HA-HA!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:42:54pm

re: #134 b_sharp

Not “It was a stark & dorky night”?

No, that was last night when I was at a game night with my co-worker. A whole bunch of nerds gathered around a couple of gaming tables, playing tabletop RPG’s.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:44:04pm

re: #35 Belafon

I got my Halloween lights working on my two Raspberry Pi boxes. The boxes, in turn, are being controlled from the computer I’m talking to you on. I have successfully reduced Halloween lights to a programming problem. Now, I have some Python code that causes the lights to do various sequences. I run the program, walk outside, check to see how aesthetically appealing it looks, run inside and make some tweaks, and run back out to see how it looks.

You have way too much free time

Enjoy every minute of it

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:44:40pm

Here’s a video from my phone. Because of the lights turning on and off, it makes virtually everything else black. I’m off at an angle to get the lights without the cars blocking.

Halloween Light Test 2017

We have a bunch of figures we will put out on Tuesday if it doesn’t rain. In the arch on the right contains a ghost bride and a groom holding his head with a skeleton preacher. To the left of them toward the back is going to be a casket with a body, a widow standing behind it, and three skeletons around it. The green lit area is a cemetery. The blinking arch on the left has a ghost hanging from it that spins and a sign that says Mausoleum. In front of that will be three witches, one of which stirs a cauldron. To the left of those is a mad scientist with a lab cart containing body parts, with a skeleton hanging behind it. Where you see those white blinking lights to the right of the left arch, is an arch covered in a black tarp leading to the door of the house. Inside we have a number of lights, and things hanging from the top that will move up and down making noises.

Inside our house, we have the front room decorated as an attic, with a number of spooky things in it. On Tuesday, we’ll have a blue colored light and some strobe lights to light this up:

Attic

Edit: The lights in front are on some amazing fence building my dad did out of PVC and wood.

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:45:01pm

re: #118 Stanley Sea

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:46:49pm

re: #139 lawhawk

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Do they really think that’s going to be any better? “Beatings will continue until morale improves,” only substituting sexual harassment for beatings.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:47:28pm

re: #127 lawhawk

“If I can’t get the Russians to shut it down, or the DOJ to shut it down, I’ll get the military to bomb it.”

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:49:02pm

re: #137 dangerman

You have way too much free time

Enjoy every minute of it

I wish. I’ve put my self way behind on a couple of other projects, including some slides I need to get to work on right now for a machine learning group I’m leading at work.

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scottslemmons  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:49:49pm

re: #132 dangerman

It was a dark and stormy night…..

Unfortunately, it’s been done before…

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KGxvi  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:51:24pm

re: #141 Belafon

“If I can’t get the Russians to shut it down, or the DOJ to shut it down, I’ll get the military to bomb it.”

Part of me wants the indictment to be for Don Jr over the meeting with the Russian attorney. That same part of me wants to see Don Sr immediately announce that he’s pardoning his son… just to see what Ryan and McConnell will do

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:51:35pm

re: #138 Belafon

Here’s a video from my phone. Because of the lights turning on and off, it makes virtually everything else black. I’m off at an angle to get the lights without the cars blocking.

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Attic

Good. That’ll send the little beggars screaming down the street.

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:53:22pm

7-7! Wow! Crazy!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:53:39pm

AL-TOO-VEY
7-7

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:53:40pm

re: #145 Decatur Deb

We’ve had kids around eight years old refuse to go under the arch to the door. A lot of 2-4 year olds have to be carried by parents.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:55:12pm

re: #143 scottslemmons

Unfortunately, it’s been done before…

Yes and here. The bulwer-lytton contest

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:56:33pm

I just heard something skitter across our deck. Went out to look, and it was an Adirondack chair (not a light one, either) that had blown clean off the deck and landed in the middle of the patio. Wild goings-on out here.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:57:25pm

One of the cool things about reducing it to a programming problem was that I decided after getting it all set up was that we needed some more lights toward the back. We laid out some lights, plugged them into one of the outlets on my raspberry pi box, I modified a configuration file, and restarted.

Now that I’ve built the boxes, and contemplating having four light boxes, we’ll actually need to do some actual planning on what to put in our yard.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:59:35pm

re: #138 Belafon

Wonderful work! Every Christmas Eve I will bundle up and take a walk from my apartment westward to Rossmore (Vine) in the Hancock Park area of Los Angeles to look at the Christmas lights. Many houses are really decked out with beautiful displays. Looking at them reminds me of when I was a kid and I thought something was just pure magical about Christmas.

Now Christmas is just another holiday that I get to sleep till 8 or 9AM instead of my usual weekday wakeup time of 430-5AM…

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KGxvi  Oct 29, 2017 • 7:59:55pm

re: #147 FormerDirtDart

AL-TOO-VEY
7-7

Booooooooooo!

Boooooooooooooooooo!

Booooooooooooooo!

Life long Dodger fan

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William Lewis  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:00:19pm

re: #35 Belafon

I got my Halloween lights working on my two Raspberry Pi boxes. The boxes, in turn, are being controlled from the cnotomputer I’m talking to you on. I have successfully reduced Halloween lights to a programming problem. Now, I have some Python code that causes the lights to do various sequences. I run the program, walk outside, check to see how aesthetically appealing it looks, run inside and make some tweaks, and run back out to see how it looks.

not cctv? tsk.

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scottslemmons  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:01:05pm

re: #149 dangerman

Yes and here. The bulwer-lytton contest

One of my sentences made it into one of the “Dark and Stormy” contest books…

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:02:35pm

re: #155 scottslemmons

One of my sentences made it into one of the “Dark and Stormy” contest books…

Outstanding!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:03:57pm

Yeah, that’s probably never helpful

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:04:39pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, that’s probably never helpful

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“So is everyone else in this city.”

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scottslemmons  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:04:43pm

re: #156 dangerman

Outstanding!

Ehh, as fame goes, it ain’t much.

“Nothing ever made me madder than coming home to find my pet snake’s throat cut — all the way down.”

Even as far as bad sentences go, that one needs some work…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:05:03pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, that’s probably never helpful

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Oh Shooter McGavim, how low you’ve fallen.

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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:05:39pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:09:10pm

I really like the “glowing” sign

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:12:18pm

re: #159 scottslemmons

Ehh, as fame goes, it ain’t much.

“Nothing ever made me madder than coming home to find my pet snake’s throat cut — all the way down.”

Even as far as bad sentences go, that one needs some work…

C’mon a first rate contest about third rate writing….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:19:14pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, that’s probably never helpful

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“Don’t you know who I am?!?”

“Yes, and this is going to make me famous. Give me your wrists, please. You have the right to remain silent…”

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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:19:38pm
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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:22:16pm
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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:23:49pm

re: #166 JordanRules

This is in the town where I live.

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gocart mozart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:24:01pm

re: #103 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I agree with this

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:30:56pm

re: #166 JordanRules

When you’re reminded that “Florida Man” jokes rarely are

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:32:38pm

re: #169 FormerDirtDart

When you’re reminded that “Florida Man” jokes rarely are

Guys like this are the reason Fark has the Florida tag.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:36:13pm

OK, the football game, that started after the baseball game did, is over.
It’s the top of the 7th inning with no one out
And, I’m drinking a cup of coffee

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:37:00pm

re: #171 FormerDirtDart

OK, the football game, that started after the baseball game did, is over.
It’s the top of the 7th inning with no one out
And, I’m drinking a cup of coffee

Turner just missed it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:39:46pm

Wow! Heads up play by Peacock.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:41:47pm

What a game.

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:46:23pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah. 8-7.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:46:31pm

re: #161 JordanRules

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10 minutes after I pass out after arriving home from work.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:47:26pm

7th inning stretch, all even.

This has been an absolutely cracking series.

More, please!

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:51:55pm

Holy shit, elebenty billion homers!!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:52:03pm

HOLY CRAP
He hit the shit out of that
8-8

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:52:25pm

Holy jackamole. He cranked on that one. Redeemed himself for the missed play just before.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:53:10pm

Yeah, Morrow likely not the best choice…

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:55:46pm

‘Stros first lead of the game
9-8

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:56:12pm

‘Stros back on top. Altuve is the Little Monster.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:57:31pm

re: #183 austin_blue

‘Soros back on top. Altuve is the Little Monster.

Soros?
Damn, that guy has his hands in everything

//

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:57:39pm

Shit! Two more!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:57:47pm

11-8

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:58:06pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

Zaaaaaaah

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:58:08pm

I’m so glad I’m not a sports fan. This is nerve racking enough.

What a game.

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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:59:09pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart

Whoa! I just went downstairs real quick!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:59:17pm

This has been a classic.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 8:59:36pm
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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:00:40pm

re: #189 JordanRules

Whoa! I just went downstairs real quick!

DON’T LEAVE.

OK commercial LEAVE NOW. GO!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:00:57pm

Damn, the lead tweet got deleted

There is a shirtless man in stars and stripes drawers who ran onto the field and is now being escorted off but don’t worry it’s not Reddick

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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:01:05pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:08:15pm

Yeah, but he’ll vote for whatever they take to the floor

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:08:33pm

7th inning streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:10:20pm
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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:11:57pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:11:57pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart

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Yes.

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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:16:04pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:17:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:17:59pm

re: #200 JordanRules

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Indeed. It won’t stop them from backtracking but perhaps it will work on the American people.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:18:41pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart

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He’s shot at least one movie in Austin, where he cut quite a swath through the local chickenhawk bars.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:18:54pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

Been trapped for a weekend without any, throwing a kidney stone. Opiates are our friends.

I’ve done that twice — not fun.

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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:21:54pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:22:29pm

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska) once pinned former Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) against a wall and held a knife to his throat during a heated debate about earmarks.

John Boehner told Politico about the incident in a new profile published Sunday. The former speaker described his difficulties in banning earmarks, or measures that funded projects in lawmaker’s home district.

Boehner said that Young once pinned him against a wall in the House during an argument over earmarks, and that Young held a 10-inch knife to Boehner’s throat.
Boehner responded by staring Young in the eyes and saying, “F—- you.”

thehill.com

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:23:39pm

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska) once pinned former Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) against a wall and held a knife to his throat during a heated debate about earmarks.

John Boehner told Politico about the incident in a new profile published Sunday. The former speaker described his difficulties in banning earmarks, or measures that funded projects in lawmaker’s home district.

Boehner said that Young once pinned him against a wall in the House during an argument over earmarks, and that Young held a 10-inch knife to Boehner’s throat.
Boehner responded by staring Young in the eyes and saying, “F—- you.”

thehill.com

In the 19th century they only used canes.

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:24:28pm

Holy shit this game

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:27:07pm

re: #208 meteor

Holy shit this game

Did they already use up all the pitchers?

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retired cynic  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:27:58pm

re: #209 Belafon

Did they already use up all the pitchers?

Sounds like they burned them at the stake on the pitcher’s mound.

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:28:19pm

re: #209 Belafon

Did they already use up all the pitchers?

They should probably use the streaker from last inning to pitch.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:29:11pm

re: #209 Belafon

Did they already use up all the pitchers?

Nope, they’ve got this guy trotting out, and the ball boys.

Of course, Verlander could throw an inning and still start in two days.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:30:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:30:53pm

I know I’ve said it before but what I love about baseball is there being no clock. No offense to anyone who finds it boring but I think you’re wrong.

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KGxvi  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:31:22pm

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Banning earmarks was incredibly stupid. One man’s pork is another man’s federal project that employs and provides important services to constituents

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:33:07pm

Interesting thread:

I agree with someone in the replies: there will be a small core group unable to come to terms with anything against Trump. But I do think a lot of Republicans, those around me who make too much money to be otherwise engaged in politics, will hear Mueller’s evidence and come around to the administration being too corrupt to continue.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:36:19pm

McCann
12-9

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:36:24pm

WTF

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:36:36pm

re: #217 FormerDirtDart

Zang

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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:36:54pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:37:09pm

re: #217 FormerDirtDart

McCann
12-9

I think that ties it for most home runs in a World Series at 21

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:39:08pm

re: #216 Belafon

Interesting thread:

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I agree with someone in the replies: there will be a small core group unable to come to terms with anything against Trump. But I do think a lot of Republicans, those around me who make too much money to be otherwise engaged in politics, will hear Mueller’s evidence and come around to the administration being too corrupt to continue.

I am not so optimistic. Despite everything, Trump retains support of over 80% of Republican voters and the cowards in Congress will not turn against him. Those I know who support him continue to do so; it is only if Fox News and the WSJ editorial page turn against Trump, that we will be able to be rid of him. But Pence, although not the foreign policy risk of Trump, will be even worse when it comes to domestic issues.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:39:37pm

I wonder if my mom is still up?
She stayed up until the end of Game 2 last Wednesday.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:41:06pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:45:06pm

Dodger’s down to three outs. ‘Stros have three, also.

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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:45:30pm

Worth seeing every year!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:50:48pm

One down.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:51:02pm

One

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:52:13pm

re: #5 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here’s another bingo card I saw earlier today:

Can we play blackout bingo?

Popcorn and soda are good to go for tomorrow. :)

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:52:22pm

A good chance-up is a murderous pitch.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:52:47pm

One run game. Homer by Puig.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:52:59pm

Holy shit. This game. 12-11.

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:53:04pm

FZARK what is this the apocalypse?!??!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:53:30pm

22 home runs this series

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:54:21pm

Puig hit that with one hand on the bat.

Sheesh.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:55:43pm

Double.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:55:46pm

Tying run in scoring position. Holy crap. What a game.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:58:06pm

Two down.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:58:25pm

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:58:32pm

It got reeeeally quiet.

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:58:42pm

I can’t even this game. Unreal.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 9:58:48pm

Tying run ninety feet away. Wow.

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:00:17pm

Home plate ump should have called that. He’s trending on Twitter. Which isn’t a good thing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:00:27pm

Dodgers down to their last strike. 2-2 count.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:00:45pm

One strike left…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:00:56pm

TIe game!

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:01:11pm

TIED ZOMG kill me

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:01:11pm

And…we’re tied.

This is just nuts.

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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:01:20pm

Come on man. This is crazy!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:01:48pm

Why do these games run so fucking late?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:02:10pm

re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg

Why do these games run so fucking late?

Because you can’t run the clock out and this game is high scoring. Plus lots of pitching changes.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:02:24pm

I refer you to #239

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:02:25pm

Do the Dodgers pitchers have anything left?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:03:53pm

re: #253 austin_blue

Do the Dodgers pitchers have anything left?

They’re putting in Jansen, their closer who didn’t pitch yesterday.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:04:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:08:37pm

Nice catch right there.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:11:01pm

And now a two out double.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:11:01pm

Gurriel…doubles!

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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:12:54pm
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Semper Fi  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:13:15pm

So glad I didn’t miss this game.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:14:02pm

FREE BASEBALL

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:14:04pm

Extras.

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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:14:13pm

Extras!

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:14:16pm

Reddick…flies out. Extra inningz!

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:15:11pm

re: #261 FormerDirtDart

Yaaay

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fern01  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:15:53pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

There may be arrests at dawn, but just remember that it takes more than an indictment/arrest.

These asshats need to be tried, convicted, and sentenced.

At the minute I’d settle for arrests at dawn - the response from the moron & his henchmen will be epic

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:16:54pm

Start this video at the seven minute mark and please enjoy!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:19:58pm

Jose, always the charmer

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:21:20pm

re: #268 FormerDirtDart

Jose, always the charmer

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The juice for Jose was always in the syringe, not his balls.

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Semper Fi  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:21:32pm

re: #266 fern01

At the minute I’d settle for arrests at dawn - the response from the moron & his henchmen will be epic

Each and everyone is probably sleeping at a friends house tonight.

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KGxvi  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:21:40pm

re: #266 fern01

At the minute I’d settle for arrests at dawn - the response from the moron & his henchmen will be epic

As I said above part of me wants to see Don Jr be the name on the indictment and for Don Sr to immediately announce the pardon… just to see what Ryan and McConnell do

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:24:33pm

Can somebody be pardoned before they’ve even be found guilty of a crime?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:25:10pm

re: #272 BigPapa

Can somebody be pardoned before they’ve even be found guilty of a crime?

Yes
Nixon was

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:26:07pm

A lot of my coworkers are going to be showing up either late or exhausted tomorrow morning. What are the rules? Do the teams have to continue playing until the game is completed? Or can they decide to finish Monday afternoon?

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:27:28pm

re: #274 Hecuba’s daughter

I wish.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:28:49pm

re: #274 Hecuba’s daughter

They gotta keep playing.

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plansbandc  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:29:29pm

This game is insane.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:29:31pm

re: #274 Hecuba’s daughter

The game is played through. No matter what. At least that’s my understanding of it.

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:30:12pm

There’s already some empty seats behind home plate.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:33:46pm

Oh! Almost!

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:33:57pm

If this goes deeper they should have the Game of Thrones guy on the Dodgers pitch. All that red hair and beard flailing around would look cool.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:34:02pm

Well, at least they don’t have to play another game until Tuesday.

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:34:54pm

re: #282 Hecuba’s daughter

This game may be going on until then.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:35:30pm

re: #274 Hecuba’s daughter

A lot of my coworkers are going to be showing up either late or exhausted tomorrow morning. What are the rules? Do the teams have to continue playing until the game is completed? Or can they decide to finish Monday afternoon?

Play till it’s over.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:36:32pm

Jansen’s @ 30 pitches.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:37:11pm

Innings wise btw. Longest game ever was 33. Minor league game tho. Had two future hall of farmers in it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:37:37pm

re: #285 austin_blue

Jansen’s @ 30 pitches.

He could be tired. He usually doesn’t throw much.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:38:08pm

Walk. He’s @ 32.

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:38:30pm

re: #286 HappyWarrior

Wow.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:38:32pm

re: #270 Semper Fi

Each and everyone is probably sleeping at a friends house tonight.

They probably aren’t sleeping — they are watching the game with everyone else. And the arrests will be delayed until the game is over. //

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Semper Fi  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:39:01pm

re: #287 HappyWarrior

He could be tired. He usually doesn’t throw much.

He looks like he’s throwing just as hard as he can.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:39:16pm

Astros win!

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:39:21pm

Finally

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:39:24pm

Ballgame!

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:39:26pm

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:39:45pm

My dogs need to pee

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:39:46pm

re: #289 meteor

Wow.

Yep Wade Boggs and Cal Ripken were in the game.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:40:11pm

One for the ages right there.

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plansbandc  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:40:15pm

Yes!! Astros take it.

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:41:30pm

That game was alright.

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:41:48pm

I’m gonna sleep about zero goddamn hours.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:41:48pm

Well, that was exhausting.

Now about those indictment(s) tomorrow…

Manafort, Flynn, and a mystery felon to be named on Wednesday.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:42:34pm

That’s a huge win for Houston. It would have been tough to win two games in LA. Bregman giving his teammates credit. Class! The

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:42:58pm

re: #300 BigPapa

That game was alright.

It was okay.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:44:01pm

These Astros are a likable bunch of guys.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:44:09pm

re: #304 HappyWarrior

It was okay.

Kinda boring, though. Not much happened.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:44:32pm

re: #305 Dave In Austin

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I love Painter’s wit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:45:32pm

re: #307 austin_blue

Kinda boring, though. Not much happened.

Haha seriously how many one run games where both teams score double digits? And wow the lead changes.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:46:38pm

Remember when this game was 4-0 Dodgers, and it felt a little like it might already be over?

yeah, that was like three and a half hours ago

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:47:46pm

I started following baseball the year Alex Bregman was born. I was so sad about the strike. Houston has a very impressive young core and unlike the Killer B teams of Biggio and Bagwell, they have the depth behind them.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:48:02pm

re: #309 HappyWarrior

Haha seriously how many one run games where both teams score double digits? And wow the lead changes.

It was a classic. This series is a classic. This is why people love baseball. No time limits, no penalties (well, very rarely), and a guy who succeeds 30% of the time is a huge success.

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fern01  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:48:13pm

re: #205 JordanRules

Seems coming out against Weinstein has opened the floodgates - guess this is why the fox guys paid $$$$ in their attempts to mute the women.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:48:24pm

re: #310 FormerDirtDart

Remember when this game was 4-0 Dodgers, and it felt a little like it might already be over?

yeah, that was like three and a half hours ago

With Kershaw on, yeah you wouldn’t be blamed for thinking that.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:49:25pm

I think this was Puig’s home run in the 9th

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:50:23pm

re: #312 austin_blue

It was a classic. This series is a classic. This is why people love baseball. No time limits, no penalties (well, very rarely), and a guy who succeeds 30% of the time is a huge success.

It will always be my favorite sport. I’ve never seen my favorite team- Orioles in a WS but every March I have high hopes. This is such a beautiful game. A real pity someone had to lose tonight but I’m glad Houston won. A deserving city and fan base.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:50:42pm
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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:50:50pm

re: #315 FormerDirtDart

I think this was Puig’s home run in the 9th

[Embedded content]

Cubs fan?

(edit: Sorry, obscure. Cubs fans always throw opposing homers back on the field.)

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meteor  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:51:28pm

re: #310 FormerDirtDart

You spelled years wrong

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BigPapa  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:51:56pm

The stats were already out: when leading by 4, the Dodgers were 100-1. With Kershaw pitching and a 4 run lead, 19-0.

Now 100-2. And 19-1.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:52:50pm

re: #320 BigPapa

The stats were already out: when leading by 4, the Dodgers were 100-1. With Kershaw pitching and a 4 run lead, 19-0.

Now 100-2. And 19-1.

That’s why they play the game.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:52:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:53:26pm

Man this is great.

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Kragar  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:55:06pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:58:10pm

Well there you go….. This will be interesting?

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fern01  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:58:25pm

re: #271 KGxvi

As I said above part of me wants to see Don Jr be the name on the indictment and for Don Sr to immediately announce the pardon… just to see what Ryan and McConnell do

Ryan & McConnell would talk about tax cuts - It’s been said too often and appears to be true - he could commit murder on 5th avenue & the GOP would not impeach him.

I want to know if the president* will be banned from twitter based on his response to any indictments - and I hope beyond hope that Hillary Clinton will one day sue him & fox news for all the lies and abuse they have heaped upon her. A lessor woman would never come back fighting in the way she continues to do.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2017 • 10:59:07pm

Okey time for bed. Hopefully we find out who it is tomorrow but I’m sure we’ll know soon enough.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2017 • 11:00:51pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 29, 2017 • 11:10:39pm

I’ll probably sleep pretty late tomorrow or, rather, later today. I hope to be awakened by undulating waves of wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Republican infested parts of the Metroplex, with the snap, crackle pop of wingnut heads exploding as a cheery undertone.

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Teukka  Oct 29, 2017 • 11:11:55pm

re: #329 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I’ll probably sleep pretty late tomorrow or, rather, later today. I hope to be awakened by undulating waves of wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Republican infested parts of the Metroplex, with the snap, crackle pop of wingnut heads exploding as a cheery undertone.

Depending on who is indicted and what he/she spills, they might go full RBMK (blowing their top while spewing contamination as they melt down).

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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 11:17:23pm
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JordanRules  Oct 29, 2017 • 11:32:19pm

Posted a few times tonight already so once more then.
Cheers to JoyAnn!

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2017 • 11:39:38pm

re: #333 JordanRules

Pretty sure it was lawhawk that observed that this wasn’t an interview, more like a cross examination. Made me smile.

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austin_blue  Oct 29, 2017 • 11:47:05pm

re: #326 fern01

Ryan and McConnell would talk about tax cuts - It’s been said too often and appears to be true - he could commit murder on 5th avenue & the GOP would not impeach him.

I want to know if the president* will be banned from twitter based on his response to any indictments - and I hope beyond hope that Hillary Clinton will one day sue him & fox news for all the lies and abuse they have heaped upon her. A lesser woman would never come back fighting in the way she continues to do.

You bring up an interesting point (bolded), and it leads to an intriguing question:

The R’s legislative agenda is now totally focused on taxes, and cuts for the wealthy. They fear for their election funding in the next cycle if they don’t get it through. They fear Bannon’s agenda to kick out existing Congresscritters and replacing them with new Alt-right hardcores. They are at a desperate point. There are also some critical fractures in their bloc with people who can read and write and do maths and understand what the tax cuts will do to their constituents.

What will the indictments do to the the R’s legislative agenda? Does it give them cover, or does it smash it to pieces by putting DC into a paralysis where nothing can be done in the House until Mueller’s job is finished?

For a political junkie like me, this is a sweet time to be alive. It’s chaos, but it might kill the Republican Party, depending on how it plays out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:08:28am

re: #7 scottslemmons

So now I’m trying to bash out some goddamn horror doggerel to make up for my errors.

The Horror Dog-Girl!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:09:51am

re: #22 Belafon

Give 10 people 1 apple. Average: 1/person.
Keep taking apples and give them to one person. Average: 1/person.
Average is wrong metric.

Basic statistics: the difference between “average” and “median”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:11:57am

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

I’d love to know how exactly Christians are “beleaguered” in a country which is dominated by (Rightwing) Christians. White Evangelicals gave us Trump.

It is based on the founding myth of our nation, namely that the Pilgrims came here to practice religious freedom.

They came here because they were “free” to impose their religion on people and create a theocratic government, something that was forbidden in Europe.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:16:37am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is based on the founding myth of our nation, namely that the Pilgrims came here to practice religious freedom.

They came here because they were “free” to impose their religion on people and create a theocratic government, something that was forbidden in Europe.

Not to mention that their desire to create a theocracy basically got them run out of Europe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:16:54am

re: #119 FormerDirtDart

Fox News’ ad revenue nose-dives, declining a whopping 17 percent. Its aged viewership is literally dying.

or moving on to sources that are even more virulently right-wing

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:19:06am

re: #340 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

or moving on to sources that are even more virulently right-wing

I suspect a combination of both.

Their epistemic closure must be maintained at all costs.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:31:44am
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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:45:56am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:54:59am

dept of having lost the ability to even

Asked by the Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody “who is God to you?” Trump answered:

“Well I say God is the ultimate. You know you look at this? Here we are on the Pacific Ocean. How did I ever own this? I bought it fifteen years ago. I made one of the great deals they say ever. I have no more mortgage on it as I will certify and represent to you. And I was able to buy this and make a great deal. That’s what I want to do for the country. Make great deals. We have to, we have to bring it back, but God is the ultimate. I mean God created this and here’s the Pacific Ocean right behind us. So nobody, no thing, no there’s nothing like God.”

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TedStriker  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:57:31am

re: #344 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

dept of having lost the ability to even

Asked by the Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody “who is God to you?” Trump answered:

“Well I say God is the ultimate. You know you look at this? Here we are on the Pacific Ocean. How did I ever own this? I bought it fifteen years ago. I made one of the great deals they say ever. I have no more mortgage on it as I will certify and represent to you. And I was able to buy this and make a great deal. That’s what I want to do for the country. Make great deals. We have to, we have to bring it back, but God is the ultimate. I mean God created this and here’s the Pacific Ocean right behind us. So nobody, no thing, no there’s nothing like God.”

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 12:58:57am
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austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:00:40am

re: #342 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

That’s the thing . Chickenhawks are chickenhawks, a small subset of the gay (and heterosexual) community. Whether they be Priests, or Boy Scout leaders, or Christian Youth Ministers, pedophiles are pedophiles. That’s their kink. But within that group, there are further subsets.

I had a good friend in college who was a chickenhawk. The difference with M was that he never preyed. He was well to do, respected in the community, and renowned in his field of work. There was a certain group of street kids in New Orleans who knew his kink and acted on it, for money.

He did federal time. Was he a predator? Maybe, in a legal sense. Was he a victim? Maybe, in a legal sense. The one one undeniable fact was that it was consensual, despite the fact that they were sixteen and seventeen. He never preyed on little virgin boys, didn’t groom children.

Sexuality is a strange beast. My kink is that I’m a heterosexual male, like most men. It’s a difficult thing for me to condemn anyone who is not a predator or rapist, even if I have reservations about consensual sex between people of differing ages.

It’s a puzzlement.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:04:21am

re: #344 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

dept of having lost the ability to even

Asked by the Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody “who is God to you?” Trump answered:

“Well I say God is the ultimate. You know you look at this? Here we are on the Pacific Ocean. How did I ever own this? I bought it fifteen years ago. I made one of the great deals they say ever. I have no more mortgage on it as I will certify and represent to you. And I was able to buy this and make a great deal. That’s what I want to do for the country. Make great deals. We have to, we have to bring it back, but God is the ultimate. I mean God created this and here’s the Pacific Ocean right behind us. So nobody, no thing, no there’s nothing like God.”

Is Trump trying to say he owns the Pacific Ocean?

*headdesk*

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austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:06:41am

re: #348 Dr Lizardo

Is Trump trying to say he owns the Pacific Ocean?

*headdesk*

No, he is just favorably comparing himself to God. Like, they are on the same level, like Homeys.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:06:59am

I had a good friend in college who later came out gay. For that, he is a major conservative Trump supporter and fan of Milo Y, whom he still defends as “misunderstood”…

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:11:22am

re: #347 austin_blue

Where does ‘adulthood’ and ‘consent’ take place? It’s undoubtedly highly variable among us humans.

When it comes to men’s side of the story, I side with the folks who say they were sexually harassed, regardless of gender. It’s a power dynamic, not a kink.

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austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:21:19am

re: #351 teleskiguy

Where does ‘adulthood’ and ‘consent’ take place? It’s undoubtedly highly variable among us humans.

When it comes to men’s side of the story, I side with the side of folks who say they were sexually harassed, regardless of gender. It’s a power dynamic, not a kink.

I absolutely agree with that, but it is a kink in the sexuality of the harasser, isn’t it? It’s a pathology.

And I condemn no-shit pedophelia, where the the child is an absolute victim to a predator who targets them to achieve sexual domination as an extension of power over another human. It’s anathema and the animals who commit such crimes should be put in a cage for the rest of their lives.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:25:34am

There is a lot more to human sexuality than just the mechanics of reproduction. I have no problem with whatever consenting adults do for fun in their spare time, but not to the point of victimizing the unwilling, the unaware or those who are not in a position to grant consent.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:26:42am

re: #353 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a lot more to human sexuality than just the mechanics of reproduction. I have no problem with whatever consenting adults do for fun in their spare time, but not to the point of victimizing the unwilling, the unaware or those who are not in a position to grant consent.

QFT

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austin_blue  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:27:20am

Night all. Sweet scaly dreams. It got kind of dark tonight, didn’t it?

We all have stories, many of them are not pretty.

But it’s Mueller morning! Bada-bing! Bada-boom!

Manafort, Flynn, and Page.

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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 1:57:53am
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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:00:53am

I’ve finally taken a look at this piece of shit. Be careful, you may vomit.

((( Survivors )))

PS: oh, and the eyes. Always the crazy eyes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:05:07am

re: #356 Kragar

Of 342 immigrants deported out of New Mexico, none had gang involvement. 88% had no criminal record.

The counter-argument is that that they were here illegally and hence criminals.

The USA needs comprehensive immigration reform, not just deportations and wall building.

But that is not likely: too many conflicting interests.

Europe faces an analogous problem: as long as EU has a common external border, but separate national refugee and immigration policies, it will be a complete clusterf*ck of conflicting laws and regulations, and a breeding ground for nationalist sentiment.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:07:12am
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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:08:13am

re: #358 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Trump “deportation” force has only one purpose: to keep private prisons at full capacity so the owners get paid, and can pay kickbacks to the politicians which make them possible.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:09:59am

re: #359 Dave In Austin

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:11:26am

re: #360 Kragar

The Trump “deportation” force has only one purpose: to keep private prisons at full capacity so the owners get paid, and can pay kickbacks to the politicians which make them possible.

that is what I meant about too many special interests making a real, comprehensive, just and ultimately humane immigration policy all but impossible to achieve.

one of the few things that I supported GW Bush on was immigration reform, but his own party would not go along with him on that

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:17:55am

Last thing I want to hear is Boehner lecturing anyone on anything.

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teleskiguy  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:19:17am
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Kragar  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:38:11am

Tonight’s project

Eversor

The Eversor Temple is possibly the most gruesome of the many temples that train Imperial Assassins for the Officio Assassinorum. The Eversor Assassins specialise in shock and terror tactics, instilling fear of Imperial retribution into the hearts and minds of all who hold positions of power in the Imperium of Man. Often in the employ of the Imperial Inquisition’s Ordo Malleus, Eversor Assassins are used to solve the problem when the indelible taint of Chaos is believed to have spread throughout the ruling elite of an entire Imperial Adepta or planetary government.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 30, 2017 • 2:59:25am

Mueller….. Mueller……

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:01:40am

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:08:40am

That was some rain we had last night (and wind). Both kids’ schools are closed today, citing flooding and downed power lines.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:27:21am

Sorry cat lovers.

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 3:44:51am
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:10:52am

Tick tock, time for a perp walk.

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:15:07am

MSNBC Morning Joe — all about Mueller Day. “It’s not the beginning of the end, but it’s the end of the beginning.”

CNN — all about Mueller Day. Jeffrey Toobin explaining the minutiae of what a sealed indictment means; warns that some of the indictees might suddenly flip and not be arrested after all. Goes into detail about what it means that a search warrant was executed, the week after a subpoena…

Fox — Menendez. Elias. Clinton. Everything else but Mueller Day.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:39:15am

No tweets yet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:39:37am

re: #373 makeitstop

No tweets yet?

yep…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:44:20am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:48:59am

Cold, wet, and windy here today. Wind is really howling.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:52:52am

And what is the lead story over at the BBC?

Concentrations of CO2 in the Earth’s atmosphere surged to a record high in 2016, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

Last year’s increase was 50% higher than the average of the past 10 years.

Researchers say a combination of human activities and the El Niño weather phenomenon drove CO2 to a level not seen in 800,000 years.

Scientists say this risks making global temperature targets largely unattainable.

bbc.com

And on FAUX and FIENDS—Expect them to come out swinging at that oh-so-naughty Kevin Spacey…oh and has Hillary been jailed yet????

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:52:53am

watching tv…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:54:32am

Manafort!

nytimes.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:55:54am

Paul Manafort, Who Once Ran Trump Campaign, Told to Surrender

WASHINGTON — Paul Manafort and his former business associate Rick Gates were told to surrender to federal authorities Monday morning, the first charges in a special counsel investigation, according to a person involved in the case.

The charges against Mr. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, and Mr. Gates, a business associate of Mr. Manafort, were not immediately clear but represent a significant escalation in a special counsel investigation that has cast a shadow over the president’s first year in office.

Mr. Gates is a longtime protégé and junior partner of Mr. Manafort. His name appears on documents linked to companies that Mr. Manafort’s firm set up in Cyprus to receive payments from politicians and businesspeople in Eastern Europe, records reviewed by The New York Times show.

Mr. Manafort had been under investigation for violations of federal tax law, money laundering and whether he appropriately disclosed his foreign lobbying.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:56:20am

And Rick Gates!

DAMN, He ain’t on my Bingo Card! 😢

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 4:58:23am

Well, I’ll be damned.

Shots fired. Mueller is not playing here.

Nuclear tweet meltdown in 3…2…1…

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:01:31am

re: #382 makeitstop

Well, I’ll be damned.

Shots fired. Mueller is not playing here.

Nuclear tweet meltdown in 3…2…1…

“I have never even heard of Paul Manafort.” // (kind of)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:04:29am

Oh and I see the bots and Trump jockstraps are already starting to swarm into attack mode on Twitter…

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:06:09am
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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:06:53am

re: #383 Barefoot Grin

“I have never even heard of Paul Manafort.” // (kind of)

I’m sure we’ll see and hear some variant of that statement more than once today.

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:11:12am

“Trump is the victim here!! He had no idea what his campaign manager was doing, Manafort totally took advantage of him.”

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:14:00am

Also, BlueGrl’s husband and son are going to love her forever for insisting on buying those tickets last night.

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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:14:39am

Woot!!!

I’m kinda surprised it is Manafort right off. But I am not complaining.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:15:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:17:12am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:20:01am

re: #389 ObserverArt

Woot!!!

I’m kinda surprised it is Manafort right off. But I am not complaining.

Don’t think you should be. They searched his house a couple of weeks ago. He has the most ties to the russians. They may have him on money laundering and tax evasion. If he’s looking at series time, he may flip.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:21:44am

Fox can’t deny that something’s happening

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:23:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:26:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:27:25am
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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:30:00am

re: #392 I Would Prefer Not To

Don’t think you should be. They searched his house a couple of weeks ago. He has the most ties to the russians. They may have him on money laundering and tax evasion. If he’s looking at series time, he may flip.

I just thought it might be someone like Gates or Flynn Jr. to start shaking the trees. Manafort is going right for the throat of the conspiracy.

Then he might need to go big to tamp down some of the GOP Congress probes that are being used to throw a wrench into it all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:30:26am

Fox & Friends right now:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:31:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:32:48am
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I cannot.  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:35:13am

Guys…I’ve found something stupid on YouTube…I know, I don’t exactly need a targeting computer for that…

What’s So Bad About The Galactic Empire?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:37:29am

re: #397 ObserverArt

I just thought it might be someone like Gates or Flynn Jr. to start shaking the trees. Manafort is going right for the throat of the conspiracy.

Then he might need to go big to tamp down some of the GOP Congress probes that are being used to throw a wrench into it all.

True. But they may be nailing Manafort for things unrelated to the campaign (taxes, etc). In my opinion he’s the dirtiest one.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:37:34am

re: #382 makeitstop

Well, I’ll be damned.

Shots fired. Mueller is not playing here.

Nuclear tweet meltdown in 3…2…1…

We have derp-sign the like of which even God has never seen.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:37:58am

re: #398 The Vicious Babushka

Fox & Friends right now:

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The Google News algorithm has just handed me the most vile crap of a vile year. The first sight of it was Snopes rejecting it at least:

Was the ‘Black Soldier’ Killed in Niger a Deserter?

snopes.com

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freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:43:29am

re: #402 I Would Prefer Not To

True. But they may be nailing Manafort for things unrelated to the campaign (taxes, etc). In my opinion he’s the dirtiest one.

Possibly.

And of course there are already Trumpbots on Twitter proclaiming that this is so, and that Trump is not under investigation.

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:45:14am

Yessss. And I hope it’s just the beginning.

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fern01  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:45:42am

re: #405 freetoken

Possibly.

And of course there are already Trumpbots on Twitter proclaiming that this is so, and that Trump is not under investigation.

But they have no idea about that. Has there ever been an investigation that had fewer leaks than Mueller’s inquiry?

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:46:01am

Meanwhile I have just watched Happy Death Day and it’s very good. Groundhog Day with a murder plot.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:46:57am

re: #401 I cannot.

But I watched the whole thing…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:52:12am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

“We would be happy to stop talking about Hillary Clinton and the campaign… but she just won’t go away.”

I would be happy to stop thinking about the girlfriend who just dumped me and moved back to California, but she just won’t go away!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:52:16am

So, no perp walk. Will Manafort be out on bail by 5pm as was discussed for white collar crime?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:58:22am

re: #411 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

So, no perp walk. Will Manafort be out on bail by 5pm as was discussed for white collar crime?

Pretty much expected.

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fern01  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:59:11am

All political pundits & reporters who cover DC and politics KNOW Paul Manafort - they talked to him during the campaign, they had him on their TV shows - and they never thought he deserved some investigation?

But her emails ……

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 30, 2017 • 5:59:46am

I’m enjoying this

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:00:09am

THREAD

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:05:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:07:40am
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fern01  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:08:12am

re: #417 makeitstop

Tax evasion - seems how they get everyone. Hope they have the president*’s tax returns.

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jeffreyw  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:08:55am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:09:05am

the charges:

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:09:05am
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darthstar  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:11:38am

Words you don’t want on your LinkedIn profile: CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE UNITED STATES

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:12:09am
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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:13:58am

Two down…who’s next?

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scottslemmons  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:14:09am

Saying conspiracy against the US is no big whup and issuing a pardon is definitely not going to be a good look for Trump. It won’t stop him, but it won’t make him look good — except to the Republicans and the press, who will immediately forgive him and demand Hillary be arrested to make up for it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:16:04am
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darthstar  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:17:43am

When I heard it was Manafort I thought, aw, how disappointing…but seeing the charges now, it’s like, Holy fucking shit! This is getting real!

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:17:49am

I hate these boring Monday mornings. No news.

////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:18:09am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:18:35am

Get ready for the spin. This had nothing to do with collusion, etc.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:20:01am
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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:20:30am

re: #431 I Would Prefer Not To

Get ready for the spin. This had nothing to do with collusion, etc.

I’ve seen that on Facebook already.

Gonna be really difficult to spin away that conspiracy charge, though.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:21:19am

re: #434 makeitstop

I’ve seen that on Facebook already.

Gonna be really difficult to spin away that conspiracy charge, though.

Also can’t wait to hear—

“Indictments mean nothing, Grand Juries will indict a ham sandwich.”

/

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:23:33am

LOL

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:23:54am

re: #434 makeitstop

I’ve seen that on Facebook already.

Gonna be really difficult to spin away that conspiracy charge, though.

Trump FIRED Manafort when he found about his colluding with Hillary and Russia!

Trump doesn’t even know who Manafort is!

Indictments don’t matter, grand juries will indict a cheeseburger!

Charges have nothing to do with Trump! MAGA!

How come mainstream media won’t report on…(checks tweet from The Federalist) Uranium One and Dossier?

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:24:34am

re: #436 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

“Trump not indicted. It’s all good.”

/

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:24:38am
These principles include the fact that regardless of its statutory setting, every conspiracy has at
least two elements: (1) an agreement (2) between two or more persons.14 Members of the
conspiracy are also liable for the foreseeable crimes of their fellows committed in furtherance of
the common plot.15 Moreover, statements by one conspirator are admissible evidence against all.

Edited, I screwed up the link and don’t know how to fix it.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:25:26am

And picked our Veep! Picked the Veep of the country he is now charged with conspiring against.
What a time!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:26:07am

re: #422 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

“unregistered agent of a foreign principal”

I called it.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:26:55am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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Teukka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:26:59am

TL;DR:
1. Conspiracy against the United States.
2. Conspiracy to Launder Money.
3.-6. Failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accts for calendar years 2011-2014.
7.-9. Failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accts for calendar years 2011-2013.
10. Unregistered Agent of a Foreign Principal.
11. False and Misleading FARA Statements.
12. False Statements

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:27:30am

Think we’re getting out of “community service” territory.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:28:14am

re: #387 sagehen

“Trump is the victim here!! He had no idea what his campaign manager was doing, Manafort totally took advantage of him.”

“Why won’t media report on Manafort’s ties to Hillary?”

/

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:29:08am

re: #436 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

It’s Haldeman’s and Erlichman’s indictment, not Nixon’s!

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Teukka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:30:07am

re: #446 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It’s Haldeman’s and Erlichman’s indictment, not Nixon’s!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:30:09am

re: #440 JordanRules

And picked our Veep! Picked the Veep of the country he is now charged with conspiring against.
What a time!

[Embedded content]

That’s a shortcut for Pence to the Russians.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:30:37am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. We got our power back after a short outage here, and there’s lots of folks in CT, NY, and New England who have lost power due to the Nor’easter, but they’ll get it back pretty quick.

Millions of Americans in Puerto Rico are still without power thanks to Hurricane Maria more than a month ago, and Trump still isn’t doing nearly enough to get the power restored.

He’s too busy tweeted at Hillary Clinton to notice that he’s the one in charge, and it’s his people who have been indicted.

Yeah, it’s #MuellerMonday and we are treated to a daily double: Paul Manafort and Rick Gates.

Okay, who had Gates on their indictment bingo cards? No one?

Here’s where it gets interesting. Manafort was one of Trump’s campaign managers, and then Gates took over as unofficial campaign manager at the beginning of the summer - right about the time of the infamous Russia meeting at Trump Tower with Junior, Manafort, etc. that all of them lied about.

Gates is a guy who’s trying to follow in Manafort’s footsteps, but doesn’t necessarily have the savvy to know how to navigate nearly as smoothly. Including him at this point is further pressure to get Manafort to cooperate.

Manafort cooperates, and it’s a domino theory that will end up going after Kushner, Junior, and others at the Russia meeting. Tax and financial crimes are all wrapped into this.

So of course Fox is treating their viewers to the nonstop Clinton calvacade as though she’s the one who’s about to get indicted. Fox has taken over the HA Goodman approach of warning of Clinton indictments around the corner.

They’re fixated on Clinton but ignore everything coming Trump’s way. It’s a blind spot that actively misinforms their viewers.

Can’t wait for Hannity to spin this tonight.

Manafort and Trump go back decades. They’ve been friends for decades. This isn’t some casual relationship. Manafort was Trump’s campaign manager, and even after Manafort left the campaign, it was clear Manafort was still involved in some capacity advising Trump. All the emails, messages, and Tweets can and will be used against the whole lot of them.

Not a bad way to start a Monday.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:31:02am

re: #446 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It’s Haldeman’s and Erlichman’s indictment, not Nixon’s!

A bunch of low rate burglars not tied to anybody

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:31:23am

Looks like he laundered a shitpile of money.

Could Manafort have been in charge of payouts to R congress weasels?

How many R congress weasels are going to abruptly announce their retirements this week?

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:31:26am

Just heard Eric Garcetti will not run for Governor of California. That’s probably wise, Gavin Newsome has the track well laid. Damn, I think Garcetti is exactly what we need in a civic leader. *grumbles*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:31:44am

Best way to clear Manafort’s good name is to release Trump’s tax returns…

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:32:23am

re: #443 Teukka

en.wikipedia.org

Ukrainian government National Anti-Corruption Bureau studying secret documents claimed in August 2016 to have found handwritten records that show $12.7 million in cash payments designated for Manafort, although they had yet to determine if he had received the money.[28] These undisclosed payments were from the pro-Russian political party Party of Regions, of the former president of Ukraine.[28] This payment record spans from 2007 to 2012

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:32:34am

Trump’s world is about to get tossed (like a FBI search warrant on a crack den).

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fern01  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:33:22am

Hillary’s campaign manager was charged by the media for “sending emails related to the presidential campaign” - and Hillary was blamed for this terrible action

trump’s campaign manager is charged with conspiracy against the US and numerous financial crimes - but that has nothing to do with trump.

The bar for trump is somewhere near the center of the earth.

457
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:34:13am

re: #449 lawhawk

the infamous Russia meeting at Trump Tower with Junior, Manafort, etc. that all of them lied about.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:34:17am

re: #430 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Me too. This is a great first step for Mueller. Looking forward to many more indictments right up to and including the Orange Bigot.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:35:00am

re: #451 makeitstop

That’s entirely possible, and puts the actions of Rohrabacher, Nunes, Chaffetz, and even Ryan and McCarthy into doubt because of all the open jokes about who was on the Russian payroll.

That’s a shit ton of money to be distributing and laundering - it’s payola.

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harlequinade  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:35:54am

re: #443 Teukka

TL;DR:
12. False Statements

Didn’t Sessions do that? Didn’t most of them do that?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:35:57am

re: #452 Unshaken Defiance

Just heard Eric Garcetti will not run for Governor of California. That’s probably wise, Gavin Newsome has the track well laid. Damn, I think Garcetti is exactly what we need in a civic leader. *grumbles*

I disagree. Here in Koreatown, Garcetti is letting gentrification run wild tearing down old housing stock are replacing it with “luxury” apartments not under rent control. Families are being evicted with nowhere to go.

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scottslemmons  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:36:12am

Can’t have a one-person conspiracy.

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Teukka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:36:46am

re: #462 scottslemmons

Can’t have a one-person conspiracy.

You Sir, win 9000 internets!

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I cannot.  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:36:51am

re: #409 Shropshire Slasher

So did I. That’s eight minutes of my life I will not get back.

What’s so bad about the Empire? What could cause people to rise up against them? Could it be their tax policies? Could it be because they nationalized industries? Could it be because they limited trade and forced people to engage in smuggling and black markets?

Yes, they covered the traditional “Why is the Empire bad?” reasons, but they spent most of the time talking about the other stuff. Guys, I don’t think the Empire is bad because they nationalized Kuat Drive Yards…in my list of “Why the Empire Sucks” that might make the last section of VOLUME 17.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:37:41am

re: #460 harlequinade

Didn’t Sessions do that? Didn’t most of them do that?

He’s only just begun….

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:38:13am

Free Republic has a strong defense of Melania’s Halloween party.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:38:16am

re: #328 Dave In Austin

Other animals looking at humans in water: That’s not swimming!!!

468
Shropshire Slasher  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:39:31am

Oh no, I feel a song coming on.

carpenters -We’ve Only Just Begun

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scottslemmons  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:39:49am

re: #463 Teukka

You Sir, win 9000 internets!

Dangit, I hardly know what to do with one Internet, much less 9,000.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:40:55am

Trump: I’m going to pardon Manafort! Bigly!
Pence: Great idea!
Kelly: That means they can force him to testify against you. If he accepts it, he will be admitting to being guilty and loses his right to plead the fifth.
Trump: I’ll just tell him not to.
Kelly: Then he’ll be in trouble again.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:41:17am

re: #469 scottslemmons

Dangit, I hardly know what to do with one Internet, much less 9,000.

8,000 are for fuckn’ kittens.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:42:17am

re: #415 I Would Prefer Not To

[Embedded content]

I’m enjoying this

Wow. And now it begins. Trump isn’t in office a year and already his administration has been hit by a major scandal and arrests of campaign associates. This is not normal.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:42:50am

So it’s not just tax fraud. But conspiracy against the US. Oh snap.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:42:56am

re: #471 Decatur Deb

8,000 are for fuckn’ kittens.

YouTube

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:43:20am
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Teukka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:43:31am

Captured on a RWNJ-infested chat:
[redacted] globalists suppressing Kevin Spacey Pizzagate with Manafort $18 million money laundering scheme indictment.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:43:35am
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:43:59am

re: #473 GlutenFreeJesus

So it’s not just tax fraud. But conspiracy against the US. Oh snap.

the tax fraud is also a state (tax) crime

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:44:11am

re: #474 dangerman

[Embedded content]

Video

Problem solved.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:45:45am

Is Fox waking up, or will they find some way to dump this all on Hillary?

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:45:55am

re: #472 Patricia Kayden

Wow. And now it begins. Trump isn’t in office a year and already his administration has been hit by a major scandal and arrests of campaign associates. This is not normal.

And again we spent most of the weekend wondering who of so many people was merely gonna be first

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:46:36am

re: #477 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Ainsley wishes.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:47:24am

re: #462 scottslemmons

Can’t have a one-person conspiracy.

QFT.

Conspiracy means others were involved, and the question becomes who else was in on it.

Given what we know of this craven cabal of criminals, it’s likely it goes all the way to Donny Two Scoops himself. And Junior’s also likely involved along with Kushner.

The only ones not likely to be included? Eric, Tiffany, and Barron.

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danarchy  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:48:03am

re: #445 Sir John Barron

“Why won’t media report on Manafort’s ties to Hillary?”

/

You think this is sarcasm, but days ago they were talking about how Manafort did a lot of work with the Podestas.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:48:15am

re: #477 lawhawk

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Ainsley ya dolt, they went for manafort first for a reason

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:48:54am

Who’s the other guy they got?

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:49:29am

re: #480 The Vicious Babushka

Is Fox waking up, or will they find some way to dump this all on Hillary?

If you’re going to go after Mueller, you best not miss.

I bet they think that if they go along with sacrificing Manafort, they can claim the closer it gets to Trump they can say “Haven’t enough people been charged? Can’t we move on?”

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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:49:43am

re: #480 The Vicious Babushka

Is Fox waking up, or will they find some way to dump this all on Hillary?

[Embedded content]

I’m thinking TVs tuned to Fox News are being shut off and loud grumbling is being heard all around America.

Fox and The Judge are letting them down…it wasn’t supposed to be like this. Why just last week they said Hillary…whaaaaa!!!

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danarchy  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:51:04am

re: #486 HappyWarrior

Who’s the other guy they got?

Manafort’s business partner Gates and also worked with a Trump superpac

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:51:10am

re: #486 HappyWarrior

Who’s the other guy they got?

Manafort’s right-hand man - and the guy who briefly took the reins of the Trump campaign after Manafort stepped down.

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fern01  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:51:44am

re: #480 The Vicious Babushka

Is Fox waking up, or will they find some way to dump this all on Hillary?

[Embedded content]

Yes and Yes

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:51:53am

re: #472 Patricia Kayden

Wow. And now it begins. Trump isn’t in office a year and already his administration has been hit by a major scandal and arrests of campaign associates. This is not normal.

Fastest admin to indictments by a special counsel ever.
Fastest to multiple indictments by special counsel.

And these aren’t just financial crimes, but conspiracy against the United States and violating Foreign Agents Registration Unit (FARA).

Trump’s morning was spent bitching about Clinton. Fox spent the morning indulging Trump’s fetish about Clinton.

Then Fox started looking at what specifically was in the indictment and went… oh fuck.

Shit just got real for them too. Of course they’ll play it off as though they’re the ones who got duped by Trump and these aren’t real GOPers (even though the GOP voted for Trump wholeheartedly and continue enabling his corrupt regime). It’s what the GOP does.

But I still put money on Hannity trying to scam his viewers into thinking Mueller’s acting to cover for Hillary.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:52:07am

Here’s a funny thought: Trump may not be the top of the pyramid, he’s not smart enough. So, you try a few people, then go after him, then use him to get to everyone else, including a number of foreign nationals. He’s the kind of person that would talk if squeezed too hard. Now, you’d have to triple check his information just to be sure, but he’ll talk.

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JordanRules  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:53:18am

re: #490 makeitstop

Also well known as a pro-Russia lobbyist.

495
Shropshire Slasher  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:53:35am

Damn, the DOW is down 50…

496
freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:54:01am

re: #492 lawhawk

Fastest admin to indictments by a special counsel ever.
Fastest to multiple indictments by special counsel.

See, Trump told you there would be so much winning.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:54:06am

re: #489 danarchy

Manafort’s business partner Gates and also worked with a Trump superpac

Ah okay thanks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:54:22am

Don’t worry. Alex Jones will soon go live saying that Soros bribed the grand jurors…

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darthstar  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:54:45am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:54:59am

re: #488 ObserverArt

The last time I checked, Secretary Clinton is a private citizen who is not involved in politics beyond a few tweets, a memoir and a few interviews. Fox News and other Rightwingers can keep bringing up her name to fool their stupid followers. That doesn’t work in the real world where Mueller is dropping indictments.

501
ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:54:59am

Hopefully Manafort and Gates give up all the accounting information. There has to be distribution of all that money as it sure did not just go to Manafort and stop there.

502
Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:55:01am

re: #496 freetoken

See, Trump told you there would be so much winning.

AND…so much whining!!!

503
Teukka  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:55:06am

re: #498 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t worry. Alex Jones will soon go live saying that Soros bribed the grand jurors…

wpk7ZqJ06cCPFU0spEXbjrcd5eKs9SLWS2Wtdp2ySooMzI1Nfh8LWw==

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darthstar  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:55:32am

re: #498 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t worry. Alex Jones will soon go live saying that Soros bribed the grand jurors…

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:56:27am

re: #504 darthstar

[Embedded content]

She’s delusional. I wouldn’t even respond to her foolishness. She’s gone and not living in the real world.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:56:47am

re: #504 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Katrina, you’re an idiot. But go ahead wish for something that will never happen.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:57:04am

re: #505 Patricia Kayden

She’s delusional. I wouldn’t even respond to her foolishness. She’s gone and not living in the real world.

She never was.

508
makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:57:38am

I see no way that this conspiracy charge doesn’t reach anyone who was in the room for that meeting. Junior, Kushner, Goldstone.

Plenty of dim bulbs who think they’re clever. They’ll end up burying themselves.

509
HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:58:22am

re: #508 makeitstop

I see no way that this conspiracy charge doesn’t reach anyone who was in the room for that meeting. Junior, Kushner, Goldstone.

Plenty of dim bulbs who think they’re clever. They’ll end up burying themselves.

Law of averages I think dictates someone will talk.

510
Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:59:32am

re: #504 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Ah, Katrina the convicted shoplifter and welfare cheat…once again proving to the whole world that she is more than just a couple fries short of a Happy Meal…

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darthstar  Oct 30, 2017 • 6:59:35am

Manafort? Never heard of him!

512
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:00:45am

re: #508 makeitstop

I see no way that this conspiracy charge doesn’t reach anyone who was in the room for that meeting. Junior, Kushner, Goldstone.

Plenty of dim bulbs who think they’re clever. They’ll end up burying themselves.

re: #457 dangerman

the infamous Russia meeting at Trump Tower with Junior, Manafort, etc. that all of them lied about.

513
Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:00:47am

re: #505 Patricia Kayden

She’s delusional. I wouldn’t even respond to her foolishness. She’s gone and not living in the real world.

She’s so far out she passed both Voyagers and Pioneer 11 in the Oort Cloud!

514
freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:00:56am

re: #511 darthstar

“… when they started”

As if they were stray cats who just wandered off the street and Trump didn’t have the heart to kick them out into the cold.

515
Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:01:46am

re: #514 freetoken

“… when they started”

As if they were stray cats who just wandered off the street and Trump didn’t have the heart to kick them out into the cold.

Well, you know how Twittler loves to grab that…MEOW…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:02:25am

re: #511 darthstar

Manafort? Never heard of him!

[Embedded content]

And who hired him to run the campaign jackasses? Oh I know, it was Hillary!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:03:05am

Glad to see they indicted Manafort and Gates. This is the end of the beginning; I have little doubt more indictments will follow, with names we’ve all become quite familiar with in the Trump administration.

In any event, this is me right now. Image: qZDZZAt.gif

518
weave  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:03:57am

Christ, Kevin Spacey.

STFU

How much has he harmed the gay community today with his selfishness. Oh, with one little statement and confession he’s fed into all of the stereotypes that many people have about gays. 1) They are pedophiles. 2) It’s a choice. “I have had relationships with both men and women…. I choose now to live as a gay man.”

519
MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:04:13am

re: #363 Nyet

Last thing I want to hear is Boehner lecturing anyone on anything.

Seriously, he was just as responsible. He might have made nice with Obama behind the scenes, but he allowed what happened under his watch to happen without out and out saying what he just said.

And then he left, just like Flake and Corker and all the other republicans who suddenly decided to spend more time with their families.

520
lawhawk  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:04:22am
521
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:04:49am

There is no way Manafort’s man Pence isn’t caught up in this. President Ryan? It may rub off on him too, especially if Manafort is shown to have been passing out Russian sourced cash and favors.

522
Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:05:34am

Have the Dotardists started claiming that Paul Manafort is linked to the Clinton Foundation yet? No? Wait for it…

523
freetoken  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:06:46am

So I click on the Facebook News tag about Manafort, and almost all the fed posts to me are by Trumpers going on and on about Hillary.

Facebook has a problem that not only will they not correct, they love it, because like Murdoch they make their money by having people in a bubble.

Facebook was designed to create bubbles.

524
GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:06:47am

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danarchy  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:06:51am

re: #505 Patricia Kayden

She’s delusional. I wouldn’t even respond to her foolishness. She’s gone and not living in the real world.

I think there is going to be a lot of pointing to this from last week from the Right wingosphere.

realclearpolitics.com

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ObserverArt  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:07:22am

re: #522 Dr. Matt

Have the Dotardists started claiming that Paul Manafort is linked to the Clinton Foundation yet? No? Wait for it…

Manafort>Podesta>Podesta>Clinton

527
makeitstop  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:07:48am

re: #521 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

There is no way Manafort’s man Pence isn’t caught up in this. President Ryan? It may rub off on him too, especially if Manafort is shown to have been passing out Russian sourced cash and favors.

Friendly reminder: Manafort tricked Trump into picking Pence for VP.

Ain’t nobody clean in this. The only remaining question is who’s gonna give up whom?

528
451_Montag  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:08:44am

Any of you Twitterati feel like starting a #Flynnhasratted hashtag? Turn the screws a bit

529
Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:09:52am
530
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:11:41am

re: #468 Shropshire Slasher

Oh no, I feel a song coming on.

I had It’s Only Just Begun on a 45 as a kid, along with Country Roads and Watching Scotty Grow by Bobby Goldsborough

531
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:14:21am

onto important news, last night’s carrot cake:

532
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:16:58am

re: #520 lawhawk

Admitting that criminals were hired in the first place to head campaign isn’t a defense. Colluding and conspiring with them is even worse

“i hire only the best people”

533
Eventual Carrion  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:18:33am

re: #511 darthstar

Manafort? Never heard of him!

[Embedded content]

“And we hire the best people!” he added.

534
MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:18:46am

re: #422 The Vicious Babushka

Aren’t these the same things we’ve seen from Kushner? False and misleading FARA statements at a minimum.

535
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:21:53am

re: #530 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I had It’s Only Just Begun on a 45 as a kid, along with Country Roads and Watching Scotty Grow by Bobby Goldsborough

i still have a 45 of The Archies, Sugar Sugar
it’s cardboard
cut out from the back of a cereal box!
(no im not gonna say what year)

536
dangerman  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:25:26am

re: #534 MsJ

Aren’t these the same things we’ve seen from Kushner? False and misleading FARA statements at a minimum.

i think that was the telegraph
you cant run
you cant hide
you cant fix it now
you cant explain it away

while we were all screaming why they still have security clearances, how come they get to fix their forms three times, anyone else would be in jail, mueller was already lining up ducks

537
MsJ  Oct 30, 2017 • 7:25:40am

re: #436 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

It’s Paul Manafort’s indictment, not Trump’s

From Never Trump to…this. Erickson has no self respect and no respect for his own damn party.

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darthstar  Oct 30, 2017 • 9:10:48am
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Semper Fi  Oct 30, 2017 • 11:34:50am

re: #524 GlutenFreeJesus

[Embedded content]

Heh, heh, the blanco Bronco, heh, heh.


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