Video: Trump Endorses Roy Moore for the US Senate, Implies Moore's Accusers Are Lying (w/ Transcript)

Video: Trump Endorses Roy Moore for the US Senate, Implies Moore’s Accusers Are Lying (w/ Transcript)

PoliticsNovember 2017 • Views: 35,945

And now, here’s the moment we all knew was coming: Donald Trump makes it appallingly clear that he’s in favor of getting an accused child molester elected to the US Senate.

Here’s a transcript of his barely coherent statements.

Trump: I can tell you one thing for sure, we don’t need a liberal person in there, a Democrat, Jones, I’ve looked at his record, it’s terrible on crime, it’s terrible on the border, it’s terrible on the military. I can tell you for a fact, we do not need somebody that’s gonna be bad on crime, bad on borders, bad with the military, bad for the Second Amendment.

Well, he denies it! Look, he denies it! I mean, if you look at what, what is really going on and you look at all the things that have happened over the last 48 hours, he totally denies it! He says it didn’t happen, and you know, you have to listen to him also, you’re talking about, he said “40 years ago this did not happen.” So, you know…

Question: Are you gonna campaign for him?

Trump: I’ll be letting you know next week, but I can tell you, you don’t need somebody who’s soft on crime like Jones.

He, let me just tell you, Roy Moore denies it, that’s all I can say. He denies it, and by the way, he totally denies it.

Women are very special, I think it’s a very special time because a lot of things are coming out and I think that’s good for our society and I think it’s very very good for women and I’m very happy a lot of these things are coming and I’m very happy, I’m very happy it’s being exposed.

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Question: Do you believe Roy Moore?

Trump: Well, he denies, I mean Roy Moore denies it, and by the way, he gives a total denial and I do have to say, 40 years is a long time, he’s run 8 races and this has never come up, so 40 years is a long time. The women are Trump voters. Most of ‘em are Trump voters. All you can do is you have to do what you have to do. He totally denies it.

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The Ghost of a Flea Nov 21, 2017 • 1:20:44pm

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 21, 2017 • 1:21:03pm

Moore’s accusers are all lying? Guess that why the yam called them Trump voters…

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 21, 2017 • 1:21:40pm

Melania’s look over his shoulder: “soooon…..”

Big Beautiful Door Nov 21, 2017 • 1:23:07pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Moore’s accusers are all lying? Guess that why the yam called them Trump voters…

That was a bizarre point for Trump to bring up. Par for the course.

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 21, 2017 • 1:24:28pm

Just in: Second judge blocks Trump’s transgender military ban. U.S. District Judge Marvin Garbis says active duty transgender service members are “already suffering harmful consequences”

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) November 21, 2017

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Eclectic Cyborg Nov 21, 2017 • 1:26:09pm

I hope Trump campaigns for Moore. Let those two fuckers go up in smoke together.

Sir John Barron Nov 21, 2017 • 1:26:39pm

re: #4 Big Beautiful Door

That was a bizarre point for Trump to bring up. Par for the course.

President Obama is so divisive.

wrenchwench Nov 21, 2017 • 1:26:48pm

All you can do is you have to do what you have to do.

Impeach.

Backwoods_Sleuth Nov 21, 2017 • 1:27:06pm

US slaps new sanctions on North Korean, Chinese entities: https://t.co/oh9ffI3sRr pic.twitter.com/jjsdfyhEKL

— Local 12/WKRC-TV (@Local12) November 21, 2017

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WASHINGTON (SBG) — The U.S. announced new sanctions against North Korean and some Chinese entities Tuesday, one day after declaring the nation a state sponsor of terrorism.

Among the entities are one individual, 13 companies and 20 vessels. The move is intended to impede the country’s funding of its nuclear program.

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Those affected are connected in some way to the North Korean transportation or trade industries. Whether involved in importation or exportation, their businesses serves the “property and interests in property of the Government of North Korea,” according to a Department of the Treasury statement.

The Chinese parties include Dandong Kehua Economy & Trade Co., Ltd., Dandong Xianghe Trading Co., Ltd., and Dandong Hongda Trade Co. Ltd.

The three companies exported around $750 million worth of goods to and from North Korea between January 2013 and August 2017. These products included computers, coal, iron and other raw materials.

Also affected by the sanctions are various North Korean government agencies and six North Korean shipping and trading companies. Twenty of their vessels are now “blocked,” in part due to the country’s alleged tendency to employ “deceptive shipping practices,” according to the statement.

These practices include ship-to-ship transfers. Such behavior can enable the vessels to evade sanctions.

lawhawk Nov 21, 2017 • 1:30:53pm

Trump will treat his “endorsement” of Moore as a reality show event. Stay tuned.
Trump will treat his “campaigning for Moore” as a reality show event.

This is bugnuts insane.

Moore is an accused sex predator who molested a 14 year old, and who the police knew was up to no good - and there are nine women with credible accusations against Moore. But for the statute of limitations, there’s enough evidence here indict Moore for sex assaults, statutory rape, etc. That’s how strong the evidence is here.

So why is Trump doing this?

Maybe it’s because Trump sees himself here - and that if Moore gets dumped, then Trump’s next? Or is it that Trump is supporting Moore because he’s just as nihilistic and vindictive as we’ve always known him to be. My bet is both.

Trump is responding to the reports he hears (Fox of course) that Moore is not guilty, or that the women are a setup/fraud, etc. and not that these women are credible.

The shock would be that Trump backs the accusers over the guys who did the abuse (and no, backing white supremacists against everyone else doesn’t count, since the Nazis in Charlottesville were the assailants, not the victims).

Blind Frog Belly White Nov 21, 2017 • 1:36:10pm

After this, why would women come forward? The President of the United States got elected with over a dozen accusers after openly bragging about casual sexual assault. And he just excused sexual molestation. Clearly, our society, or at least a big part of it, is perfectly okay with this.

The other thing? Compare Trump’s treatment of Franken, who accepted responsibility and apologized, to his treatment of Moore, who denied the accusations and attacked his accusers. Who now would accept responsibility, since the POTUS has made it clear that those who confess are suckers?

Decatur Deb Nov 21, 2017 • 1:36:48pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope Trump campaigns for Moore. Let those two fuckers go up in smoke together.

Trump is Moore is the GOP. There is no boundary between them.

jaunte Nov 21, 2017 • 1:39:23pm

re: #10 lawhawk

Trump will treat (insert anything here) as a reality show event.

He’s a one-trick horse’s ass.

Stanley Sea Nov 21, 2017 • 1:40:03pm

har har har

Law and order in Alabama

A local Alabama police chief was suspended without pay after making remarks he later claimed were “sarcasm,” accusing Doug Jones of inappropriately touching him decades earlier, and posting on Facebook that “silence is consent.”https://t.co/Gswnn0zy0y

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 21, 2017

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lawhawk Nov 21, 2017 • 1:41:04pm

That bastion of bullshit, Rush Limbaugh, thinks there’s a conspiracy and coverup on the Charlie Rose abuse - how could his colleagues not know?

Oh really, you really want to go there Rush?

How did Hannity, Cavuto, and everyone else at Fox News not know about O’Reilly (especially w/$32 million settlement)? Or Ailes? Or everyone else that created a hostile work environment for women at Fox?

How could Limbaugh’s colleagues not know about his drug abuse?

See, this is how it works…

petesh Nov 21, 2017 • 1:43:20pm

This belongs on the previous thread, but in case anyone missed it, sending a quick email to Ajit.Pai@fcc.gov, saying “I support Net Neutrality” in the subject line cant hurt and might help. Gee, I wonder if we could crash their server. :-)

wrenchwench Nov 21, 2017 • 1:44:40pm

re: #11 Blind Frog Belly White

After this, why would women come forward? The President of the United States got elected with over a dozen accusers after openly bragging about casual sexual assault. And he just excused sexual molestation. Clearly, our society, or at least a big part of it, is perfectly okay with this.

The other thing? Compare Trump’s treatment of Franken, who accepted responsibility and apologized, to his treatment of Moore, who denied the accusations and attacked his accusers. Who now would accept responsibility, since the POTUS has made it clear that those who confess are suckers?

‘Franken will have to speak for himself. Those words are not familiar to me, “I did it and I’m sorry.” What is that? What could it mean? Now Moore, those words I can say. He denies it. You have to listen to him and you have to listen to me. This is familiar territory to me.’

Eclectic Cyborg Nov 21, 2017 • 1:51:01pm

Wow I didn’t realize Ajit Pai had been nominated by Obama.

goddamnedfrank Nov 21, 2017 • 2:00:00pm

Facebook says they’re taking that whole discriminatory ads issue seriously.

We checked dozens of categories from religion to race to national origin. Not a single one got flagged. https://t.co/7vsFYq0nse

— Ariana Tobin (@Ariana_Tobin) November 21, 2017

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Last week, ProPublica bought dozens of rental housing ads on Facebook, but asked that *they not be shown to* certain categories of users such as:
-African Americans
-people interested in wheelchair ramps
-Jews

The ads were approved. https://t.co/Yz6qEI81B8

— Adriana Gallardo (@otraletra) November 21, 2017

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jaunte Nov 21, 2017 • 2:01:02pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

This is your internet on corporate regulation.

goddamnedfrank Nov 21, 2017 • 2:01:15pm

Can’t make this shit up: FCC chairman’s op-ed explaining his reasoning for gutting net neutrality is behind a paywall https://t.co/W0CXYiMAv6

— Deep State Wisco 🏴‍☠ (@Wisco) November 21, 2017

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HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:02:18pm

re: #4 Big Beautiful Door

That was a bizarre point for Trump to bring up. Par for the course.

Hopefully they won’t be Trump voters a second time after that.

petesh Nov 21, 2017 • 2:05:29pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow I didn’t realize Ajit Pai had been nominated by Obama.

Me neither. I don’t know much about the backstory, but one of the commissioners, Mignon Clyburn released a rather wonderful statement, including this gem:

But as we learned today the FCC majority is about to deliver a cornucopia full of rotten fruit, stale grains, and wilted flowers topped off with a plate full of burnt turkey.

Read the whole thing:

Also the good Attorney General (Eric Schneiderman) is all over them:
medium.com

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:05:32pm

Moore wins, Trump takes credit.
Moore loses, Trump calls him a pervert and acts like he never supported him.

Decatur Deb Nov 21, 2017 • 2:08:00pm

Here are two articles on abuses at the Trump modelling agency. The first is the NY Daily News, the second an even more anti-Trump “watchdog’ site. Can’t find an article showing that it actually did close. (Lots of innuendo, very little follow-up.) The “Development” branch, featuring teens, should have generated more interest.

nydailynews.com

trumpwatchdogs.com

Targetpractice Nov 21, 2017 • 2:08:31pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Moore wins, Trump takes credit.
Moore loses, Trump calls him a pervert and acts like he never supported him.

Moore loses, Trump spends time berating voters of Alabama and suggesting election of Doug Jones a massive disaster.

Kilroy was here Nov 21, 2017 • 2:10:12pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

Moore loses, Trump spends time berating voters of Alabama and suggesting election of Doug Jones a massive disaster.

Don’t forget voter fraud…

Decatur Deb Nov 21, 2017 • 2:11:37pm

Off to defend myself from Toddler Tokugawa on Civ4. BBL

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:12:08pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

Moore loses, Trump spends time berating voters of Alabama and suggesting election of Doug Jones a massive disaster.

Yep. By the way who the hell is he who has been sued countless times and had numerous fraud charges against his brand to call anyone especially a guy like Jones “soft on crime”?

Targetpractice Nov 21, 2017 • 2:14:22pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

Yep. By the way who the hell is he who has been sued countless times and had numerous fraud charges against his brand to call anyone especially a guy like Jones “soft on crime”?

“Soft on crime” is wingnut code for “Doesn’t endorse cracking heads of black folks over piddly drug crimes.” See also: Ralph Northam and the claims that Virginia is swarming with MS-13 gang members.

dangerman Nov 21, 2017 • 2:17:15pm

from the OP

…I’ve looked at his record, it’s terrible on crime, it’s terrible on the border, it’s terrible on the military. I can tell you for a fact, we do not need somebody that’s gonna be bad on crime, bad on borders, bad with the military, bad for the Second Amendment.

does no one have to guts or brains to simply ask “can you explain how his record is ‘terrible on crime’”?

scottslemmons Nov 21, 2017 • 2:17:34pm

It’s the little things that give me joy pic.twitter.com/04Q41zkXcn

— Breitbart ❤️s Nazis (@kenklippenstein) November 21, 2017

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BeachDem Nov 21, 2017 • 2:17:52pm

re: #23 petesh

Me neither. I don’t know much about the backstory, but one of the commissioners, Mignon Clyburn released a rather wonderful statement, including this gem:

Read the whole thing:
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Also the good Attorney General (Eric Schneiderman) is all over them:
medium.com

Mignon is Jim clyburn’s daughter. See every now and then something good comes out of South Carolina.

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:18:55pm

re: #33 BeachDem

Mignon is Jim clyburn’s daughter. See every now and then something good comes out of South Carolina.

You guys got Bakari too. I’ve seen him. I can see why you speak so highly of him.

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:19:39pm

re: #31 dangerman

from the OP

does no one have to guts or brains to simply ask “can you explain how his record is ‘terrible on crime’”?

Yep, that’s the first question I would have asked. Same thing with his dig about Jones record on the military too.

scottslemmons Nov 21, 2017 • 2:20:01pm

I’ve done something I hate doing. I went online and sent email to my rotten, rotten Congressmen, giving them access to my email address, home address, and phone number. These slimy shits are going to start sending me mail now. This is what I’ve sacrificed. #NetNeutrality

— CRANBERRY REVOLUTION (@MistahScooter) November 21, 2017

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BeachDem Nov 21, 2017 • 2:22:48pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

You guys got Bakari too. I’ve seen him. I can see why you speak so highly of him.

He’s amazing. There was talk of him running for governor but he squelched that. Word is he’ll go for clyburn’s seat when Jim retires.

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:22:49pm

You know, it’s not just that Moore is a scumbag, it’s that Jones is that great. Most other states, this wouldn’t be an issue. I’ve read about Jones’ record. This guy is what you want a public servant to be and someone who really transcended his upbringing.

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:23:22pm

re: #37 BeachDem

He’s amazing. There was talk of him running for governor but he squelched that. Word is he’ll go for clyburn’s seat when Jim retires.

That’d be good. I like him. Very intelligent and well spoken guy.

dangerman Nov 21, 2017 • 2:24:03pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Yep, that’s the first question I would have asked. Same thing with his dig about Jones record on the military too.

these are simple follow ups. not nasty or even ‘partisan’. or hard to think up on the spot.

just give us some detail / specifics.

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:24:27pm

re: #40 dangerman

these are simple follow ups. not nasty or even ‘partisan’. or hard to think up on the spot.

just give us some detail / specifics.

Exactly.

gocart mozart Nov 21, 2017 • 2:27:53pm

Looking forward to a meaningful visit to the Middle East and the Vatican in promotion of religious tolerance globally pic.twitter.com/BZWDTI0j8m

— Ivanka Trump (@IvankaTrump) May 20, 2017

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Your dad literally tried to ban a religion from entering the US. https://t.co/HPu6JI1Bqp

— jordan (@JordanUhl) May 20, 2017

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HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:30:19pm

re: #42 gocart mozart

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From May. By the way, someone should ask her about her Daddy Dearest and Moore, after all she said there’s a special place in hell for people who molest children. Well what about those who defend them, Ivanka?

Dr. Matt Nov 21, 2017 • 2:31:17pm

Look at the useless Melanoma grin like an evil asshole in the background. She is as disgusting as Dotard.

Kilroy was here Nov 21, 2017 • 2:31:43pm

I can understand Trump opposing Doug Jones; after all, there were probably some ‘very fine people’ among the creatures Doug Jones prosecuted for planting a bomb in a church basement.

Skip Intro Nov 21, 2017 • 2:33:48pm

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:34:42pm

Trump has made it clear what kind of person he is. He supports Roy Moore, accused by several women of abuse but thinks Marshawn Lynch should be suspended for not standing for the National Anthem. Fuck Trump and fuck Moore.

teleskiguy Nov 21, 2017 • 2:36:02pm

Telephone conversation with US President @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/eoQLautvCR

— President of Russia (@KremlinRussia_E) November 21, 2017

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Vlad: Donald, calm down. What is problem?
Donnie: Leaks! There are too many leaks!
Vlad: But Donald, I have tape here, you love leaks! https://t.co/JlLl0rf72N

— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) November 21, 2017

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gocart mozart Nov 21, 2017 • 2:39:32pm

american politics is a sophisticated balancing act where once a month the government tries very hard to kill you and then you have to call a bunch of people and sternly ask them not to

— K.T. NELSON, JD DDS (@KrangTNelson) November 21, 2017

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gocart mozart Nov 21, 2017 • 2:40:25pm

welcome to hell pic.twitter.com/vFqtIvUEYG

— Breitbart ❤️s Nazis (@kenklippenstein) November 21, 2017

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Skip Intro Nov 21, 2017 • 2:42:11pm

FCC will also order states to scrap plans for their own net neutrality laws

In addition to ditching its own net neutrality rules, the Federal Communications Commission also plans to tell state and local governments that they cannot impose local laws regulating broadband service.

This detail was revealed by senior FCC officials in a phone briefing with reporters today, and it is a victory for broadband providers that asked for widespread preemption of state laws. FCC Chairman Ajit Pai’s proposed order finds that state and local laws must be preempted if they conflict with the US government’s policy of deregulating broadband Internet service, FCC officials said. The FCC will vote on the order at its December 14 meeting.

arstechnica.com

“States rights” begin and end with slavery.

jaunte Nov 21, 2017 • 2:42:42pm

No grift too small.

Trump Wine, now apparently on sale at National Parks gift shops: https://t.co/DgfZCr1dzJ

— Natasha Geiling (@ngeiling) November 21, 2017

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HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:44:49pm

re: #52 jaunte

No grift too small.

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JFC.

Targetpractice Nov 21, 2017 • 2:44:59pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

FCC will also order states to scrap plans for their own net neutrality laws

arstechnica.com

“States rights” begin and end with slavery.

I love how it ends:

The FCC will vote on the order at its December 14 meeting.

Merry Christmas, Bros, you’re getting cornholed for Christmas. “Hillary is as bad as Trump,” my ass.

teleskiguy Nov 21, 2017 • 2:45:08pm

I finally did it, I retweeted Bill Kristol. Actually quote tweeted, but still…

The GOP tax bill’s bringing out my inner socialist. The sex scandals are bringing out my inner feminist. Donald Trump and Roy Moore are bringing out my inner liberal.
WHAT IS HAPPENING?

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) November 21, 2017

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40 years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes! The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria! https://t.co/P40vyohpTN

— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) November 21, 2017

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ObserverArt Nov 21, 2017 • 2:45:45pm

Well, he denies it.

He denies it.

Look, he totally denies it.

Oh, well then, never mind.

“Totally denying” is rock solid proof, end of argument, close up shop and go home.

The exchange was a complete lesson in how Trump thinks he can talk his way out of anything with a simple answer…and that is that. Hey, it has worked for him.

There was this recording of Trump that seemed to solidify Trump is a sex abusing groper. And there were 16 women that alleged he did that to them.

But Trump denied it. Probably totally.

And he is President.

What a deal. Totally.

Targetpractice Nov 21, 2017 • 2:46:18pm

re: #52 jaunte

No grift too small.

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What, no Trump steaks?

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:47:12pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

I finally did it, I retweeted Bill Kristol. Actually quote tweeted, but still…

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Maybe the movement you attached yourself to you know sucks?

dangerman Nov 21, 2017 • 2:52:14pm

re: #56 ObserverArt

Well, he denies it.

He denies it.

Look, he totally denies it.

Oh, well then, never mind.

“Totally denying” is rock solid proof, end of argument, close up shop and go home.

The exchange was a complete lesson in how Trump thinks he can talk his way out of anything with a simple answer…and that is that. Hey, it has worked for him.

There was this recording of Trump that seemed to solidify Trump is a sex abusing groper. And there were 16 women that alleged he did that to them.

But Trump denied it. Probably totally.

And he is President.

What a deal. Totally.

yesterday someone said he “vehemently” denied it and i wrote pretty much the same thing - “vehemently”. ok, uh……

Targetpractice Nov 21, 2017 • 2:52:50pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

I finally did it, I retweeted Bill Kristol. Actually quote tweeted, but still…

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The jackhole doth protest too much, methinks.

Seriously, the #NeverTrump crowd is not fooling anybody with this “I’m shocked this is all happening” BS after years of promoting the very forces in politics that led to this.

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 2:53:59pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

The jackhole doth protest too much, methinks.

Seriously, the #NeverTrump crowd is not fooling anybody with this “I’m shocked this is all happening” BS after years of promoting the very forces in politics that led to this.

No kidding. We’re talking about a guy who literally managed Alan Keyes’ Senate campaign in Maryland here. I think alot of the Never Trumpers hate Trump because he showed the world that the conservative movement in this country is nothing but a bunch of hateful, easily triggered racist assholes.

Skip Intro Nov 21, 2017 • 2:55:09pm

Cartoon for @chronicleherald @realDonaldTrump #TrumpRussiaCollusion #Trump #hypocrisy #sexism #misogyny pic.twitter.com/CUvPVCPX39

— Michael de Adder (@deAdder) November 20, 2017

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Targetpractice Nov 21, 2017 • 2:57:45pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

No kidding. We’re talking about a guy who literally managed Alan Keyes’ Senate campaign in Maryland here. I think alot of the Never Trumpers hate Trump because he showed the world that the conservative movement in this country is nothing but a bunch of hateful, easily triggered racist assholes.

They hate him because he took the keys to the car and is presently driving it off a cliff Thelma & Louise-style. They were cool with the hate, the racism, the bigotry, and all the other negative emotions when such could be harnessed to reach goal they approve of.

De Kolta Chair Nov 21, 2017 • 2:57:54pm

Trump is trying to figure out a way to only pardon the white meat of the turkey.

— J. Elvis Weinstein (@JElvisWeinstein) November 21, 2017

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Nyet Nov 21, 2017 • 3:00:07pm

re: #65 De Kolta Chair

Please let his first name be Jesus!

jaunte Nov 21, 2017 • 3:02:02pm

A Republican tax plan built for plutocrats
The reforms going through Congress clearly reflect the party’s priorities
Martin Wolf

“…If the current tax bills get through, the tensions within the US are almost certain to get worse. Latin American inequality leads to Latin American politics. The US the world once knew is drowning in a tide of unconscionable and apparently unlimited greed. We are all now doomed to live with the unhappy consequences.”
ft.com

Targetpractice Nov 21, 2017 • 3:04:20pm

re: #67 jaunte

A Republican tax plan built for plutocrats
The reforms going through Congress clearly reflect the party’s priorities
Martin Wolf

The GOP look at Latin American politics and like what they see because the idea of one-party rule gives them wood. If that means El Presidente for Life Trump, they’ll figure out a way to deal with it.

TedStriker Nov 21, 2017 • 3:06:57pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

The GOP look at Latin American politics and like what they see because the idea of one-party rule gives them wood. If that means El Presidente for Life Trump, they’ll figure out a way to deal with it.

A doddering figurehead, whose outrageous actions and utterances give cover for the real wielders of power in the GOP that are running things in the shadows.

A shell game writ large, affecting hundreds of millions of people (and many more than that across the globe).

jaunte Nov 21, 2017 • 3:08:19pm

Its so hard to explain economics to partisans. Let’s try:
Housing prices have built-in the value of property tax deduction.
Eliminate deduction, housing values drop.
Everyone w/ property taxes loses equity in house.
Housing crisis.
Banks fail.
We’ve seen it before.

— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) November 20, 2017

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TedStriker Nov 21, 2017 • 3:08:43pm

re: #52 jaunte

No grift too small.

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The only way Trump can get rid of his wine is to force federal agencies to buy or sell it.

“JFC” is right here too.

Targetpractice Nov 21, 2017 • 3:09:43pm

re: #70 jaunte

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GOP solution: Blame it on Dodd-Frank, repeal law, let banks run buck wild again on promises that toxic loans will fix the problem.

Hecuba's daughter Nov 21, 2017 • 3:09:53pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

The jackhole doth protest too much, methinks.

Seriously, the #NeverTrump crowd is not fooling anybody with this “I’m shocked this is all happening” BS after years of promoting the very forces in politics that led to this.

Some of the never-Trumpers may actually have awakened from their years promoting the evil that led to Trump and are coming to realize the error of their ways. Perhaps they have freed themselves from the magical thinking that engulfed them and are recognizing how wrong they were. They partnered in brainwashing others and now understand that they brainwashed themselves in the process. We may want to examine their motives but lets not reject their support out of hand. We need all the allies we can find. And they know how to speak wing-nut so maybe they can deprogram others.

austin_blue Nov 21, 2017 • 3:10:11pm

You know what I find most interesting about the Moore support speech?

Trump always couches his support for people he needs, who he must know are evil or corrupt, in the same terms.

Look at Moore and Putin. They are good because they say they are good, that they have done no wrong. It’s all “They said it, I believe them, and that settles it.”

It seems consistent across the board, too. His kids, his son-in-law, his supporters, his White House staff, all of them.

“They said it, I believe them, and that settles it. And that should be good enough for all of you.”

It’s a pathological, consistent “tell” on his part. It’s all he’s got. And people buy it.

Sad!

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 3:10:35pm

re: #73 Hecuba’s daughter

Some of the never-Trumpers may actually have awakened from their years promoting the evil that led to Trump and are coming to realize the error of their ways. Perhaps they have freed themselves from the magical thinking that engulfed them and are recognizing how wrong they were. They partnered in brainwashing others and now understand that they brainwashed themselves in the process. We may want to examine their motives but lets not reject their support out of hand. We need all the allies we can find. And they know how to speak wing-nut so maybe they can deprogram others.

Some of them in elected office, it’s hard to take seriously when they vote over 90% in support with his agenda.

TedStriker Nov 21, 2017 • 3:11:16pm

re: #73 Hecuba’s daughter

Some of the never-Trumpers may actually have awakened from their years promoting the evil that led to Trump and are coming to realize the error of their ways. Perhaps they have freed themselves from the magical thinking that engulfed them and are recognizing how wrong they were. They partnered in brainwashing others and now understand that they brainwashed themselves in the process. We may want to examine their motives but lets not reject their support out of hand. We need all the allies we can find. And they know how to speak wing-nut so maybe they can deprogram others.

Maybe so, but, as St. Ronald of Reagan said, “trust, but verify.”

petesh Nov 21, 2017 • 3:11:55pm

re: #71 TedStriker

The only way Trump can get rid of his wine is to force federal agencies to buy or sell it.

“JFC” is right here too.

Also, too, and besides, in one word: Impeach!

jaunte Nov 21, 2017 • 3:12:04pm

re: #74 austin_blue

“They said it, I believe them, and that settles it. And that requires no further effort on my part.”

Hecuba's daughter Nov 21, 2017 • 3:12:31pm

re: #69 TedStriker

A doddering figurehead, whose outrageous actions and utterances give cover for the real wielders of power in the GOP that are running things in the shadows.

A shell game writ large, affecting hundreds of millions of people (and many more than that across the globe).

Those ruling Germany in the early 30’s thought they could control Hitler after they selected him — it did not end well for them.

JordanRules Nov 21, 2017 • 3:12:37pm

re: #74 austin_blue

Yup.

And then, juxtaposed to that, you have the Central Park 5 who absolutely cannot be believed no matter what.

TedStriker Nov 21, 2017 • 3:13:05pm

re: #74 austin_blue

You know what I find most interesting about the Moore support speech?

Trump always couches his support for people he needs, who he must know are evil or corrupt, in the same terms.

Look at Moore and Putin. They are good because they say they are good, that they have done no wrong. It’s all “They said it, I believe them, and that settles it.”

It seems consistent across the board, too. His kids, his son-in-law, his supporters, his White House staff, all of them.

“They said it, I believe them, and that settles it. And that should be good enough for all of you.”

It’s a pathological, consistent “tell” on his part. It’s all he’s got. And people buy it.

Sad!

Let’s hope Trump’s endorsement is a boat anchor around Moore’s campaign, like it was for Strange.

Targetpractice Nov 21, 2017 • 3:13:45pm

re: #73 Hecuba’s daughter

Some of the never-Trumpers may actually have awakened from their years promoting the evil that led to Trump and are coming to realize the error of their ways. Perhaps they have freed themselves from the magical thinking that engulfed them and are recognizing how wrong they were. They partnered in brainwashing others and now understand that they brainwashed themselves in the process. We may want to examine their motives but lets not reject their support out of hand. We need all the allies we can find. And they know how to speak wing-nut so maybe they can deprogram others.

I’ve heard this argument before and my belief remains the same: I need to see actions, not words. I need to see them actually breaking ranks, changing their party registrations, getting out there to stump for the other “tribe,” and so forth. If all they have to offer is “Trump is bad,” then all I see is nothing has really changed. And that they’ll jam that dagger in our backs as soon as the present crisis has cleared.

austin_blue Nov 21, 2017 • 3:20:34pm

re: #80 JordanRules

Yup.

And then, juxtaposed to that, you have the Central Park 5 who absolutely cannot be believed no matter what.

He didn’t need them, did he? Kicked to the curb like so much human trash, never admitting that he was as wrong as a man could possibly be. Dead solid WRONG, and he never admitted it. Paranoid narcissism tied up with a pretty little bow.

Our President, in a terrifying little nutshell.

Ace Rothstein Nov 21, 2017 • 3:22:21pm

The best part of that video of Trump is that it fattens his head by about 50% and grossly enlarges the gullet.

JordanRules Nov 21, 2017 • 3:25:06pm

“He keeps pressuring them to go.”

Trump, according to three people who’ve spoken to him, has advocated for Jared and Ivanka to return to New York in part because they are being damaged by negative press, VF reports. https://t.co/CTYvd3QTbj

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 21, 2017

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gocart mozart Nov 21, 2017 • 3:25:35pm

A reminder that at least 15 women have accused Donald Trump on the record of unwanted physical contact. Listen for the patterns in their stories. #inners pic.twitter.com/thoTR3OyXv

— All In w/Chris Hayes (@allinwithchris) November 18, 2017

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Weaselone Nov 21, 2017 • 3:26:30pm

re: #70 jaunte

He forgot to add in the changes to the mortgage interest deduction.

Eclectic Cyborg Nov 21, 2017 • 3:28:17pm

re: #85 JordanRules

Or maybe he wants them to leave because then there’s fewer people at the WH to keep tabs on him.

Skip Intro Nov 21, 2017 • 3:30:24pm

re: #79 Hecuba’s daughter

Those ruling Germany in the early 30’s thought they could control Hitler after they selected him — it did not end well for them.

This is the exact opposite. They are controlling him, and he’s doing everything they could ever have wished for.

teleskiguy Nov 21, 2017 • 3:31:17pm

in all fairness to Trump’s defense of Roy Moore, it’s not like he was banned from that mall for something TRULY unforgivable like shoplifting

— Matt Oswalt (@MattOswaltVA) November 21, 2017

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Nov 21, 2017 • 3:31:34pm

in the year 2075, while the starbuck’s corporation, which owns the country of catalonia, fights off attempts at incursions by scientology,

attempts continue to determine the identity of the 45th president, whose identity was expunged by act of congress after their removal

a group known as “the republican party”, apparently a publisher of conspiracy theory tracts, claims that the 45th president was “a communist muslim black women on welfare by the name of ‘opera winfrey’”

(Bert the Turtle) Nov 21, 2017 • 3:31:36pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Trump is Moore is the GOP. There is no boundary between them.

I’m going to steal that. If I had more updings to give, I would’ve gave.

austin_blue Nov 21, 2017 • 3:31:56pm

re: #80 JordanRules

Yup.

And then, juxtaposed to that, you have the Central Park 5 who absolutely cannot be believed no matter what.

And, by the way, he was still insisting that they were still guilty as late as last year, when they had factually been exonerated of the crimes for which they had been convicted.

Now that we are entering the Holiday Season, it’s appropriate to note that Our President is still as nutty as a fruitcake.

Lidane Nov 21, 2017 • 3:33:29pm

Tiny horned lizard pic.twitter.com/X2x4t4BjPC

— Land of cuteness (@landpsychology) November 21, 2017

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wrenchwench Nov 21, 2017 • 3:34:30pm

re: #94 Lidane

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Welcome, hatchling.

JordanRules Nov 21, 2017 • 3:36:03pm

re: #93 austin_blue

That’s pretty much what I was getting at. It’s not that he’ll never admit that he was wrong, it’s that he still doesn’t think he is when it comes to them.

Barefoot Grin Nov 21, 2017 • 3:37:49pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

Off to defend myself from Toddler Tokugawa on Civ4. BBL

Hope you’re not ToddlerToyotomi.

HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 3:39:26pm

Apparently LeVar Burton is getting angry calls and emails from people who think he’s LaVar Ball.

electrotek Nov 21, 2017 • 3:44:21pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Apparently LeVar Burton is getting angry calls and emails from people who think he’s LaVar Ball.

Jesus Christ, I weep for this country’s ever-declining intelligence.

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HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 3:45:09pm

re: #99 electrotek

Jesus Christ, I weep for this country’s ever-declining intelligence.

You read about it all the goddamn time. And that’s part of why Trump shouldn’t be calling out individual citizens.

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gocart mozart Nov 21, 2017 • 3:46:06pm

We think of the AL Senate race as picking a senator.

Trump probably (& not wrongly) thinks of it as picking a juror.

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) November 21, 2017

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Kilroy was here Nov 21, 2017 • 3:46:24pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Apparently LeVar Burton is getting angry calls and emails from people who think he’s LaVar Ball.

That is because they lack Data…

(runs and hides)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Nov 21, 2017 • 3:46:57pm

re: #102 Kilroy was here

That is because they lack Data…

(runs and hides)

*WHACK!*

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mmmirele Nov 21, 2017 • 3:50:11pm

I frankly hope this ends up sending these worthless Evangelical Christian pastors and theologians in flames. Here’s another one:

https://t.co/AKkSOeUJ7E

— Daniel Akin (@DannyAkin) November 18, 2017

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He’s a professor at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (SEBTS). And he’s one of the original signers of the execrable “Nashville Statement,” which was basically the Evangelicals doubling down on their hatred of LGBT people (not to mention their absolute inability to deal with the existence of intersex persons).

And he supports Richard Land who wants a lie detector test. This is bullshit! This is giving Roy Moore more than he should have. It’s saying, Oh, we don’t believe the women, but we’ll ask Moore to undergo a polygraph, which is unacceptable as evidence.

I really want all the churches these asshat men pastor and attend, and the ones their sycophantic women support to just go up in metaphorical flames, but I’d be satisfied if they ended up having to shut their doors because normal, good-hearted followers of Jesus said THIS IS ENOUGH.

/sorry not sorry for the rant.

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FormerDirtDart Nov 21, 2017 • 3:50:40pm

Rep. Quigley tells @Acosta that if he were Conyers, he would resign… and calls reporting process in Congress “broken” and “designed to protect members” #CNN

— Elise Garofalo (@elisegaro) November 21, 2017

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austin_blue Nov 21, 2017 • 3:50:52pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

I finally did it, I retweeted Bill Kristol. Actually quote tweeted, but still…

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Bill Kristol clutching his pearls is not going to stop anything unless the entire Republican establishment steps up and vows to reject ~~Satan~~ oops! Our President and all of his works. Otherwise, it’s all shit-on-toast blathering.

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garzooma Nov 21, 2017 • 3:51:15pm

re: #86 gocart mozart

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A reminder that at least 15 women have accused Donald Trump on the record of unwanted physical contact. Listen for the patterns in their stories.

I’ve been trying to find discussions about the harassment lawsuits against Trump. There hasn’t been a lot. I found this from the beginning of the year:

DORF ON LAW
THURSDAY, JANUARY 19, 2017
Why Did Summer Zervos Sue Trump in State Court?
by Michael Dorf

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austin_blue Nov 21, 2017 • 3:52:11pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Apparently LeVar Burton is getting angry calls and emails from people who think he’s LaVar Ball.

Idiots, ninnies, and feebs. Oh, and Russian bots. Lots of Russian bots.

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EPR-radar Nov 21, 2017 • 3:54:50pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

FCC will also order states to scrap plans for their own net neutrality laws

arstechnica.com

“States rights” begin and end with slavery.

But of course. Slavery and support of Jim Crow are the main (and damn near only) incidents in US history where states rights was a real rallying cry.

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TedStriker Nov 21, 2017 • 3:56:35pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Apparently LeVar Burton is getting angry calls and emails from people who think he’s LaVar Ball.

re: #99 electrotek

Jesus Christ, I weep for this country’s ever-declining intelligence.

DON’T FUCK WITH GEORDI LAFORGE, MUTHAFUCKAS!!!!

/nerdrage

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TedStriker Nov 21, 2017 • 3:57:23pm

re: #102 Kilroy was here

That is because they lack Data…

(runs and hides)

re: #103 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

*WHACK!*

*WHACK AGAIN*

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GlutenFreeJesus Nov 21, 2017 • 3:57:54pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Apparently LeVar Burton is getting angry calls and emails from people who think he’s LaVar Ball.

We are a nation of idiots. Everyone knows LaVar Ball doesn’t wear an eye visor.

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Hecuba's daughter Nov 21, 2017 • 3:58:34pm

re: #89 Skip Intro

This is the exact opposite. They are controlling him, and he’s doing everything they could ever have wished for.

Not when it’s something he actually cares about and his interest differs from theirs. So Congress overwhelmingly passed the bill mandating increased sanctions on Russia — how’s that turning out?

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teleskiguy Nov 21, 2017 • 3:58:40pm

Judge: Colorado Planned Parenthood shooter remains incompetent for trial https://t.co/zXWMFQdJ1v

— Denver7 News (@DenverChannel) November 21, 2017

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A Colorado judge says a man who acknowledges killing three people at a Planned Parenthood clinic remains mentally incompetent, keeping the case against him stalled nearly two years after the shooting.

[…]

He is charged with 179 counts, including murder and attempted murder, stemming from the Nov. 27, 2015 shooting at the Colorado Springs clinic that also left nine injured. Dear told investigators he attacked the clinic because of his anti-abortion stance.

He was deemed incompetent after two psychologists testified he has a delusion disorder.

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GlutenFreeJesus Nov 21, 2017 • 3:59:12pm

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

Sitting on his desk collecting dust.

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Skip Intro Nov 21, 2017 • 3:59:51pm

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

If Congress really cared about that they would impeach him.

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EPR-radar Nov 21, 2017 • 4:00:44pm

re: #114 teleskiguy

Serious question time — how can any Republican be mentally competent to stand trial if all it takes to be incompetent is a delusion disorder?

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(Bert the Turtle) Nov 21, 2017 • 4:01:16pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Apparently LeVar Burton is getting angry calls and emails from people who think he’s LaVar Ball.

I saw that one coming.

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gocart mozart Nov 21, 2017 • 4:01:51pm

re: #114 teleskiguy

He will run for Senate next year prolly

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William Lewis Nov 21, 2017 • 4:02:21pm

re: #102 Kilroy was here

That is because they lack Data…

rikertrombone.avi

(runs and hides)

Make it so.

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Decatur Deb Nov 21, 2017 • 4:04:41pm

re: #97 Barefoot Grin

Hope you’re not ToddlerToyotomi.

Never fight a land war in Asia.

(Had to look him up.)

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KGxvi Nov 21, 2017 • 4:07:05pm

re: #36 scottslemmons

Reminds me of the old bumpersticker:

Don’t vote, it’ll only encourage the bastards

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The Major Nov 21, 2017 • 4:07:51pm

As if we another reason to loathe Uber…
Bloomberg: Uber Concealed Cyberattack That Exposed 57 Million People’s Data

Hackers stole the personal data of 57 million customers and drivers from Uber Technologies, a massive breach that the company concealed for more than a year. This week, the ride-hailing company ousted Joe Sullivan, chief security officer, and one of his deputies for their roles in keeping the hack under wraps.

Compromised data from the October 2016 attack included names, email addresses and phone numbers of 50 million Uber riders around the world, the company told Bloomberg on Tuesday. The personal information of about 7 million drivers were accessed as well, including some 600,000 U.S. driver’s license numbers. No Social Security numbers, credit card details, trip location info or other data were taken, Uber said.
At the time of the incident, Uber was negotiating with U.S. regulators investigating separate claims of privacy violations. Uber now says it had a legal obligation to report the hack to regulators and to drivers whose license numbers were taken. Instead, the company paid hackers $100,000 to delete the data and keep the breach quiet. Uber said it believes the information was never used but declined to disclose the identities of the attackers.

The first rule when you discover any data breach is you publicly announce it and don’t try to hide it. And then to hire hackers to scrub your systems to make it look like no data breach occurred - that should be a felony in of itself…?

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teleskiguy Nov 21, 2017 • 4:08:07pm

I got the blues.

Facebook Post

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stpaulbear Nov 21, 2017 • 4:08:41pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

FCC will also order states to scrap plans for their own net neutrality laws

arstechnica.com

“States rights” begin and end with slavery.

I’m hoping that this ends up in court and flops as bad as the travel ban.

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Hecuba's daughter Nov 21, 2017 • 4:09:28pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

If Congress really cared about that they would impeach him.

They are afraid of his supporters and are dancing to his tune because his economic policies align with theirs. He is ruling like a dictator and they will be fine with that until they discover that his supporters will want legislators even more extreme. That’s how a theocratic pedophile was able to defeat a standard Republican hack. Of course, they didn’t learn about Moore’s predilections until after the election but his actual record should have been sufficient to deter rational voters.

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gocart mozart Nov 21, 2017 • 4:09:34pm

Interesting thread

A strange Twitter account, which disappeared after @thinkprogress’s questions, claimed to be involved in Conyers allegations, and claimed to be linked to the fake Russian “Tennessee GOP” account: https://t.co/TzzAa7x2hL pic.twitter.com/PDJ6lGAkss

— Casey Michel (@cjcmichel) November 21, 2017

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The first people the account followed: Posobiec, Cernovich, Trump, Breitbart, Trump Jr. pic.twitter.com/W5nibuiktJ

— Casey Michel (@cjcmichel) November 21, 2017

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MsJ Nov 21, 2017 • 4:11:19pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Maybe the movement you attached yourself to you know sucks?

Attached, nurtured, fed and loved like a little baby… That grew up to be Charles Manson.

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(Bert the Turtle) Nov 21, 2017 • 4:11:40pm

re: #125 stpaulbear

I’m hoping it will finally wake some people up! But then an image of Lavar Burton danced through my head …and I wept.

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Pawn of the Oppressor Nov 21, 2017 • 4:13:43pm

Worst American Ever.

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HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 4:13:43pm

re: #128 MsJ

Attached, nurtured, fed and loved like a little baby… That grew up to be Charles Manson.

You don’t get Trumpism without Reaganism.

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gocart mozart Nov 21, 2017 • 4:14:22pm

re: #127 gocart mozart

So this means the Russians have info on Republicans who have sexually harassed staff but won’t release it

— Unstable Isotope (@UnstableIsotope) November 21, 2017

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goddamnedfrank Nov 21, 2017 • 4:16:18pm

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

Not when it’s something he actually cares about and his interest differs from theirs. So Congress overwhelmingly passed the bill mandating increased sanctions on Russia — how’s that turning out?

He’s not enforcing those sanctions and they don’t give a shit. The sanctions vote was for show and Congressional Republicans aren’t making him actually do anything about it because it was only in their interest to appear to have taken a stand.

The only time Trump really bucked Congressional Republicans was when he made the deal with Schumer and Pelosi on a short term debt ceiling and disaster relief bill. In the long run that will turn out to have been meaningless.

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HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 4:16:21pm

re: #132 gocart mozart

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I bet the Russians have a lot of Congressional Republicans by the balls.

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austin_blue Nov 21, 2017 • 4:17:42pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I bet the Russians have a lot of Congressional Republicans by the balls.

How could you possibly think that? Those fine men are as pure as new fallen snow!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Nov 21, 2017 • 4:17:54pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I bet the Russians have a lot of Congressional Republicans by the balls.

You assume the presence of anatomy they have not been proven to have.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis Nov 21, 2017 • 4:18:02pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

Maybe you’ve developed a conscience, or maybe the radicalism that you nurtured got to be too much even for you. The Republican party didn’t just go bad in 2016. It’s been building toward Trump and Moore for years, Nixon brought in the racists, and Reagan brought in the Moores.

— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) November 22, 2017

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HappyWarrior Nov 21, 2017 • 4:19:20pm

re: #136 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You assume the presence of anatomy they have not been proven to have.

Touché.

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Cheechako Nov 21, 2017 • 4:20:36pm

Now here’s an unusual stalking story:

Professor accused of stalking members of hotshot crews

A former college professor has been indicted and charged with stalking wildland firefighters on two Arizona hotshot crews. Melissa Ann Santana, who at the time was an associate professor of interior design at Northern Arizona University (NAU) at Flagstaff, was arrested October 30, 2017. On November 14 she was indicted by a federal grand jury on eight felony charges, five for stalking, and three for making false statements to federal officials of the U.S. Forest Service.

What a strange world we live in.

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