In Which Trump Spends 20 Minutes at a Florida Hospital Before Another Golf Vacation

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Our so-called president announced that he was going to Parkland, Florida, today to “meet with some of the bravest people on Earth.”

He did go to Parkland. But not for any kind of public statement. He spent a maximum of 20 minutes total at Broward Health North hospital, and it’s unclear whether he met with any victims of the horrible mass shooting or not.

And then he got in his limo and drove back to Mar-a-Lago to play some golf.

UPDATE at 2/16/18 5:58:06 pm by Charles Johnson

While he was there, Trump thought of a good joke.

UPDATE at 2/16/18 6:24:35 pm by Charles Johnson

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156 comments
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2018 • 5:40:02pm
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Unabogie  Feb 16, 2018 • 5:50:12pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

Everything he touches turns to shit.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 16, 2018 • 5:51:27pm

re: #2 Unabogie

Yes. And he believes the world revolves around him.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2018 • 5:51:41pm

I am so looking forward to The Fall of the House of Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2018 • 5:51:56pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 16, 2018 • 5:53:18pm

He has the best responders.

Victims?

FakeTrump: “I can’t help those that couldn’t get to the responders. Some say they could have been lazy and didn’t like Trump. But we had great response. Everything is great.”

Don’t you just love his enthusiasm?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 16, 2018 • 5:55:25pm

re: #6 ObserverArt

Oh yes. ///…

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:03:30pm

Someone should photoshop up a version of this for the US.

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stpaulbear  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:06:43pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart

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When I see “Potus” and “Flotus”, I still instinctively think “Barack” and “Michelle”.

I still consider Trump just “Trump”. The word “president” doesn’t deserve to be next to his name. I can’t wait until he’s impeached.

OT: I received the Who box set “Maximum A’s & B’s” in the mail today. I’m in stereo heaven.

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Jay C  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:08:51pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart

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And you can just imagine the inevitable response from the NRA and its apologists: that they trained Cruz in “responsible” gun safety or whatever, and the fact that he snapped and shot up the school was that he was just a loony-tunes, and had nothing to do with the NRA so there…..not our fault!

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:11:30pm

re: #10 Jay C

And you can just imagine the inevitable response from the NRA and its apologists: that they trained Cruz in “responsible” gun safety or whatever, and the fact that he snapped and shot up the school was that he was just a loony-tunes, and had nothing to do with the NRA so there…..not our fault!

Well, it’s time we stopped letting them get out of it.

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Skip Intro  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:11:51pm

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:15:57pm
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MsJ  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:17:32pm

Curling had arrived.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:19:03pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:19:49pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:22:00pm
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petesh  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:23:14pm

But it LOOKS LIKE he went there, right?

Incidentally, his tweet said “Russia started their anti-US campaign in 2014, long before I announced that I would run for President.” Well, he had already registered MAGA, there were already rumors, Putin probably had inside information, and Russia would have attempted to ruin the elections even if he had not run. But he’s on the front page again, right?

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:25:53pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

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William Lewis  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:28:13pm

It’s a Friday night after a long week. Time to go curl up with a book. TOR gave away a free ebook of the first volume of Robert Jordan’s Wheel of Time. Not bad not great - a bit too derivative for my preferences but good enough for a time waster.

Night all.

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Skip Intro  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:30:20pm

re: #19 Belafon

He’s at least $100 million in debt and gets to read all the top secret stuff his father in law is to lazy to read, so I think it’s a fair assumption that he’s been selling us out since day one.

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makeitstop  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:31:09pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

According to the White House press pool report, he met with medical professionals and law enforcement this evening in Broward County, FL. He told reporters he had met with a female victim at the hospital who’d been shot and was being treated.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he screened victims’ families until he found a family who voted for him.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:31:18pm
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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:33:49pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson
What a complete lack of empathy. Compare this to the personal meetings Obama had with the families from Newtown. To me, this was Obama’s greatest moment. And Congress would not back him. Shameless.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:34:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:35:50pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:35:54pm

They either have great hallucinogenic drugs or are blindingly stupid. I’m going with the latter.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:36:38pm

re: #25 FormerDirtDart

That gave me a good chuckle.Which was needed.

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stpaulbear  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:38:27pm

I was at Barnes & Noble today after work (coupons!). I asked the clerk in the music/movie department (it’s a large B&N store) about whether anyone had been laid off recently and I told him about the Tumbler post that we were talking about yesterday. He said that a few people had just been laid off but didn’t realize that it was a widespread.

He’s going to try to read the article but he has to go to the library to access it. The guy is about my age, and he and his wife are living without a computer at home. They don’t have access to the internet and they don’t want it. Turns out he used to work for my absolute favorite bookstore - Odegard’s - which almost single-handedly revived the Grand/Victoria neighborhood in St. Paul before it went out of business in 1996. I was trying to remember that name when we were talking about bookstores yesterday.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:38:42pm
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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:39:22pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

The GOP shotgunning the primaries. A far too large candidate field that allowed Trump to win with pluralities. A refusal of the GOP to stop him during the primary process. The infatuation of the media to give him near unlimited access. 77,000 votes spread across 3 states. The Perfect Storm.

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stpaulbear  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:40:46pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

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That didn’t sound defensive at all.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:42:41pm
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wheat-dogg  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:43:03pm

re: #20 William Lewis

It’s a Friday night after a long week. Time to go curl up with a book. TOR gave away a free ebook of the first volume of Robert Jordan’s Wheel of Time. Not bad not great - a bit too derivative for my preferences but good enough for a time waster.

Night all.

I gave up on WoT after book two, fwiw. I liked the general premise, but it looked to be yet another endless series of books with no definite conclusion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:43:40pm
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fern01  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:44:45pm
it’s unclear whether he met with any victims of the horrible mass shooting or not.

It is perfectly clear that most of the victims and their familes would not want to meet with the adulterer in chief.

Why his wife goes anywhere with him is only understandable if it involves $$$

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MsJ  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:44:53pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:45:10pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

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You denied any Russian interference for months and now you blame Obama. GFY Sean.

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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:46:39pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart

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Citizen K  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:47:36pm

re: #37 MsJ

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Think you mixed up your bad little children. That’s Violet Beauregard. Veruca Salt is the spoiled brat who turned out to be a bad egg.

EDIT: …then again, I’m pretty sure Trump is both of them with more than a dash of Mike Teevee too.

EDIT2: …Hannity, not Trump. My bad.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:49:52pm
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fern01  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:51:04pm

re: #24 dirkdigglerjr

What a complete lack of empathy. Compare this to the personal meetings Obama had with the families from Newtown. To me, this was Obama’s greatest moment. And Congress would not back him. Shameless.

Hours and tears and empathy by President Obama - the adulterer has no time, no tears and zero understanding of anything outside his fat face.

Not to mention the attempts by President Obama to get congress to act on removing weapons of war from the general population.

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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:52:03pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:54:38pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:54:44pm

re: #40 Citizen K

Think you mixed up your bad little children. That’s Violet Beauregard. Veruca Salt is the spoiled brat who turned out to be a bad egg.

EDIT: …then again, I’m pretty sure Trump is both of them with more than a dash of Mike Teevee too.

EDIT2: …Hannity, not Trump. My bad.

Trump too.

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makeitstop  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:57:09pm

re: #40 Citizen K

Think you mixed up your bad little children. That’s Violet Beauregard. Veruca Salt is the spoiled brat who turned out to be a bad egg.

Having never seen the movie, I prefer this Veruca Salt.

Veruca Salt - Volcano Girls

I readily own up to crushing on Nina Gordon.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:58:49pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 6:58:50pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

If Cruz was brown or black, no newspaper would be writing about how he was “broken” and “remorseful.” Fucking disgusting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:00:51pm

*blink*

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fern01  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:00:56pm

re: #48 teleskiguy

If Cruz was brown or black, no newspaper would be writing about how he was “broken” and “remorseful.” Fucking disgusting.

If Cruz was brown or black he would be dead.

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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:01:30pm

re: #48 teleskiguy

If Cruz was brown or black, no newspaper would be writing about how he was “broken” and “remorseful.” Fucking disgusting.

Ah-yup….

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:02:05pm

Forget it, she’s rollin’…

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:02:25pm

re: #50 fern01

If Cruz was brown or black he would be dead.

Yup.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:02:25pm

That one time Trump was left speechless…

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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:02:33pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:02:39pm

re: #48 teleskiguy

If Cruz was brown or black, no newspaper would be writing about how he was “broken” and “remorseful.” Fucking disgusting.

I’m sure he is “broken.” Lots of people of all colors and persuasions are broken. Maybe we shouldn’t hand out guns like candy bars and provide some useful services instead?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:03:36pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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meteor  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:04:12pm

re: #52 FormerDirtDart

We already know! He’s an actor!

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:04:39pm

re: #58 meteor

We already know! He’s an actor!

Animal House: Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:04:40pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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Not fair, Nicholas Cage doesn’t know who Nicholas Cage is anymore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:04:48pm
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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:05:09pm

re: #56 calochortus

“broken.”

Now THIS is “Broken”…..

Seether - Broken ft. Amy Lee

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meteor  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:05:18pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

Testify!

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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:06:37pm

Mr. C. gets to have some sexual harassment training tomorrow, along with a bunch of docents and whatnot, but they’re attached to Stanford Univ. so suddenly everyone needs education whether they’re in a position where they could harass anyone or not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:07:35pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:07:47pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Not fair, Nicholas Cage doesn’t know who Nicholas Cage is anymore.

Nicholas Cage Freak-Out Montage

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nines09  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:08:34pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

No visible wounds? JFC I would have gone for him.

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fern01  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:09:49pm

re: #64 calochortus

Mr. C. gets to have some sexual harassment training tomorrow, along with a bunch of docents and whatnot, but they’re attached to Stanford Univ. so suddenly everyone needs education whether they’re in a position where they could harass anyone or not.

So when is everyone at the White House having this training - they sure need it more than anyone else in the US at the minute

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:11:10pm

re: #56 calochortus

I’m sure he is “broken.”

He killed 17 human beings. I don’t give a rats ass if he’s broken or not. Lock his shithead ass up and throw away the key, fucking monster.

And yeah, maybe this wouldn’t have happened if he couldn’t access guns. But that’s not the country we live in. And you know what? Not a goddamned thing is going to change. The countdown clock to the next gun massacre is at two days right now.

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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:11:35pm

re: #68 fern01

So when is everyone at the White House having this training - they sure need it more than anyone else in the US at the minute

I’m not sure they need training-they seem to be pretty good at harassment without it…
/

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MsJ  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:12:01pm

re: #62 The Major

Now THIS is “Broken”…..

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Amy Lee! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:12:48pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

I was “broken”’ for years…but I never fucking killed anybody.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:13:22pm

re: #72 Eclectic Cyborg

I was “broken”’ for years…but I never fucking killed anybody.

I’ve been “broken” my entire adult life. I’ve never even been in a fight.

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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:13:32pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

He killed 17 human beings. I don’t give a rats ass if he’s broken or not. Lock his shithead ass up and throw away the key, fucking monster.

And yeah, maybe this wouldn’t have happened if he couldn’t access guns. But that’s not the country we live in. And you know what? Not a goddamned thing is going to change. The countdown clock to the next gun massacre is at two days tight now.

I wasn’t suggesting patting him on the head and saying “There, there.” He should be locked up permanently. No parole, no nothing.
I would prefer to spend the money preventing these things, not cleaning up after them, but once they’ve occurred, there is no longer that option.

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meteor  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:13:56pm

re: #73 teleskiguy

I like “Wolfenstein,” and I’ve never shot anybody.

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Jay C  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:14:00pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I mean, in addition to it being just a generally stupid idea, I notice none of the tough-talking suggestions to “arm teachers” as a “solution” to school shootings seem to consider the obvious flaw: i.e. if it’s known/suspected that teachers are packing in the classroom, wouldn’t that simply make them the first targets for gunmen? Or is the idea a modification of Megan McArdle’s “rush the fuckers!” notion: having the teacher as the prime target gives the rest of the kiddies a few seconds more lead time???

Fucking dopes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:14:02pm
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Belafon  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:15:25pm

re: #64 calochortus

Mr. C. gets to have some sexual harassment training tomorrow, along with a bunch of docents and whatnot, but they’re attached to Stanford Univ. so suddenly everyone needs education whether they’re in a position where they could harass anyone or not.

I get it every year at my government contractor job.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:16:03pm

re: #74 calochortus

I wasn’t suggesting patting him on the head and saying “There, there.”

And that’s what The Atlanta-Journal Constitution did with that piece of shit article I posted. There, there, it’s okay, because you’re a young white man. The fucking cops in Charleston bought cheeseburgers for Dylann Roof.

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MsJ  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:16:43pm

Nina Roth came through! #curling

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:16:55pm
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meteor  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:17:51pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

How did they miss this guy that many times?

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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:18:01pm

re: #71 MsJ

Amy Lee! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

These days this is what I am….

Big Head Todd and The Monsters - Bittersweet (Live at Red Rocks 2008)

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whitebeach  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:18:36pm

re: #14 MsJ

Curling had arrived.

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“Tight match in the middle of the 8th end.”

Is this a set-up line or what? Everybody roll their own.

And why is it called “curling” to start with? Not knocking it, looks at least as fun as bowling (another weird sport name), just asking.

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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:18:44pm

re: #79 teleskiguy

And that’s what The Atlanta-Journal Constitution did with that piece of shit article I posted. There, there, it’s okay, because you’re a young white man. The fucking cops in Charleston bought cheeseburgers for Dylann Roof.

And that is just wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:19:27pm
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Belafon  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:19:38pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:20:07pm

Las Vegas. Sutherland Springs. Parkland. This is the very recent past, folks.

Another massacre will happen again. And another. And another. It won’t slow down and will never go away until Democrats take back the House, Senate, and White House.

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whitebeach  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:22:34pm

re: #79 teleskiguy

And that’s what The Atlanta-Journal Constitution did with that piece of shit article I posted. There, there, it’s okay, because you’re a young white man. The fucking cops in Charleston bought cheeseburgers for Dylann Roof.

The fucking cops in Charleston would have bought filet mignon and champagne for John Wilkes Booth. They would have given James Earl Ray the same thing and a ride to the airport.

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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:22:53pm

re: #84 whitebeach

And why is it called “curling” to start with? Not knocking it, looks at least as fun as bowling (another weird sport name), just asking.

My High School math teacher was big into curling and taught us about the sport - and mind you, this was back in the mid 1970s in the Detroit area where we received Canadian TV broadcasts - so whenever curling came on, we could at least have some understanding as to what was going on.

Naturally, David Attenborough had his own take….

David Attenborough - Olympic Curling

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:22:57pm

Let’s not forget the sheer brutality of Sutherland Springs. That building had just over 50 people in it when the gunman opened fire. 26 died and another 20 wounded, a lot of them young children. The gunman just about shot every person in that building.

And then there’s Sandy Hook…

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makeitstop  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:23:51pm

re: #76 Jay C

I mean, in addition to it being just a generally stupid idea, I notice none of the tough-talking suggestions to “arm teachers” as a “solution” to school shootings seem to consider the obvious flaw: i.e. if it’s known/suspected that teachers are packing in the classroom, wouldn’t that simply make them the first targets for gunmen? Or is the idea a modification of Megan McArdle’s “rush the fuckers!” notion: having the teacher as the prime target gives the rest of the kiddies a few seconds more lead time???

Fucking dopes.

I got a variation on Facebook: ‘Not teachers, but a trained force specifically for schools.’

In every school.

I asked how this specially trained force would be armed, trained and paid: ‘Everybody pays a dollar a week, 52 bucks a year.’ This suggestion was brought up in response to my asking if people would be cool with a tax hike to pay for it all.

But the guy was adamant - ‘it’s not a tax, it’s just everybody paying a dollar a week!’

Which is a fucking tax.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:24:23pm
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BlueGrl21  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:24:32pm

My husband the teacher/coach is openly, vocally anti-gun, in person and on social media. Anyone who knows anything about him at all knows this is his personal cause.

I would pay to see someone try to get him to carry a gun anywhere. And now people want him to carry a gun at school with his KIDS?

I’ll bring the popcorn for THAT conversation.

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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:26:17pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:26:18pm

re: #88 teleskiguy

Las Vegas. Sutherland Springs. Parkland. This is the very recent past, folks.

Another massacre will happen again. And another. And another. It won’t slow down and will never go away until Democrats take back the House, Senate, and White House.

And right now, what these kids can do is shame politicians and those who accept the status quo and get all of them to vote for change.

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whitebeach  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:26:54pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jesus, sleuth, that hurts.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:27:40pm
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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:27:52pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I understand the sentiment, but this sort of thing always makes me a bit uncomfortable. As an atheist, I don’t believe in an afterlife to remove the sting of death. The implication that the victims are in a better place makes the murders less horrific.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:28:07pm

To all of my 555 followers, 95% of which are real!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:28:24pm

Always look on the bright side of life…

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MsJ  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:28:53pm

re: #84 whitebeach

“Tight match in the middle of the 8th end.”

Is this a set-up line or what? Everybody roll their own.

And why is it called “curling” to start with? Not knocking it, looks at least as fun as bowling (another weird sport name), just asking.

There are either 8 or 10 ends. An end is where each team of four players throws two rocks each. Scoring is based on stones closest to the center circle (the button).

It’s called curling because the stones curl down the loooong rink using what you might be familiar with in billiards as English… Based on how you throw the stone or doesn’t go in a straight line, it can look more like a ) or a ( path.

It’s not bowling. It takes some serious skill, strategy, and an understanding of geometry and physics.

Curling is fucking cool as hell.

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stpaulbear  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:29:05pm

re: #82 meteor

How did they miss this guy that many times?

Florida.

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:29:21pm

re: #82 meteor

How did they miss this guy that many times?

They didn’t. System is working as intended. A white male was not restricted from firearm purchasing.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:31:52pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart

More than 30 years ago, I pulled for the government versus Ma Bell. Now I want AT&T to prevail. Life is strange.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:32:02pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

The beauty part is we’re supposed to believe that over 93,000 actual human beings agree with him.

Pull the other one, Little Donny.

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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:32:23pm
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MsJ  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:33:33pm

re: #105 dirkdigglerjr

More than 30 years ago, I pulled for the government versus Ma Bell. Now I want AT&T to prevail. Life is strange.

Inorite?

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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:33:34pm

re: #78 Belafon

I get it every year at my government contractor job.

I suspect a lot of this is window dressing. I can’t imagine what opportunities a bunch of volunteer nature preserve docents would have to harass anyone.

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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:33:43pm

re: #101 De Kolta Chair

Nice riff on a Patch Adams quote…..

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meteor  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:35:05pm

I’m going to see “Black Panther” tomorrow, after a NOW meeting and a doctor’s appointment. It’s going to be great.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:35:48pm

re: #99 calochortus

I understand the sentiment, but this sort of thing always makes me a bit uncomfortable. As an atheist, I don’t believe in an afterlife to remove the sting of death. The implication that the victims are in a better place makes the murders less horrific.

If you read the comments, she admonishes the “better place” argument. It would be better if they were here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:35:57pm
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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:37:04pm

re: #112 Belafon

If you read the comments, she admonishes the “better place” argument. It would be better if they were here.

Good. I didn’t get as far as the comments.

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BlueGrl21  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:37:31pm

re: #99 calochortus

I understand the sentiment, but this sort of thing always makes me a bit uncomfortable. As an atheist, I don’t believe in an afterlife to remove the sting of death. The implication that the victims are in a better place makes the murders less horrific.

It doesn’t make them any less horrific for me, even though I do believe in life after death. Children murdered in their schools; nothing can ever ease the horror of that. I’m not thinking about where their souls are right now. I’m grieving and incredibly furious that they’re gone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:37:41pm
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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:37:42pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I noticed the phrasing myself.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:39:17pm

re: #110 The Major

Nice riff on a Patch Adams quote…..

Thanks, though I despise that movie even more than I despise The Birth of a Nation, which at least had Lillian Gish in it. //

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:39:27pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nicolas. But he APPRECIATES! all of the ATTENTION!

Not the Bees - Nic Cage in The Wicker Man

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:40:11pm

in Greater Cincinnati:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:42:50pm
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Citizen K  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:43:29pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

in Greater Cincinnati:

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That’s one of the worst things about any mass shooting incident: those stirring shit and/or plotting copycat crimes in the wake. It’s hard to tell who’s just being a monstrous troll or who’s legitimately been inspired to follow through with similar atrocities in these cases, but the fact that folks would even think to take advantage of that atmosphere is….

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:43:33pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those are huge fucking lockers. Winter clothing size?

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Citizen K  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:46:10pm

re: #123 Single-handed sailor

Those are huge fucking lockers. Winter clothing size?

I’m wondering how much it’s perspective, but I’m pretty sure those are small, half-lockers. Most of the school lockers I remember go one unit from top to floor, rather than splitting them to top locker and bottom locker.

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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:46:44pm

re: #123 Single-handed sailor

Those are huge fucking lockers. Winter clothing size?

Easier to fit a freshman in?

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:46:59pm

I might have reached bottom in my cynicism with gun massacres. I’m resigned to call it Americana. It’s not if, but where and when. I’m pretty sure you can get a bulletproof vest on Amazon.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:47:13pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

HP, the chihuahua, wants to chase Mr. Raccoon and expects treats each time he brings back the squeaky toy. Spoiled rotten!

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makeitstop  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:47:33pm

re: #124 Citizen K

I’m wondering how much it’s perspective, but I’m pretty sure those are small, half-lockers. Most of the school lockers I remember go one unit from top to floor, rather than splitting them to top locker and bottom locker.

Yeah, they look twice as wide, half as tall. Probably better for storing books, not so great for hanging up a long coat.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:51:29pm

re: #127 dirkdigglerjr

Spoiled rotten? That sounds like a solid plan to me.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:52:35pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

I might have reached bottom in my cynicism with gun massacres. I’m resigned to call it Americana. It’s not if, but where and when. I’m pretty sure you can get a bulletproof vest on Amazon.

Unless it’s a bulletproof Spider-man costume, it’s not going to entirely help.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:53:06pm

re: #129 De Kolta Chair

Spoiled rotten? That sounds like a solid plan to me.

I tell my wife the purpose of dogs is to spoil them.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:55:12pm
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The Major  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:58:38pm

re: #131 Belafon

I tell my wife the purpose of dogs is to spoil them.

Dogs have masters, cats have staff…..

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whitebeach  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:58:57pm

re: #99 calochortus

I understand the sentiment, but this sort of thing always makes me a bit uncomfortable. As an atheist, I don’t believe in an afterlife to remove the sting of death. The implication that the victims are in a better place makes the murders less horrific.

I don’t believe in an afterlife either. But literal belief in this or that has little or nothing to do with the power of metaphor. I don’t need to believe or not believe in an afterlife to feel the force, the pain in fact, of what the cartoonist here is telling us.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:59:33pm

re: #124 Citizen K

I’m wondering how much it’s perspective, but I’m pretty sure those are small, half-lockers. Most of the school lockers I remember go one unit from top to floor, rather than splitting them to top locker and bottom locker.

We had half high lockers about a foot wide and 30” tall.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2018 • 7:59:47pm

CNN got into the shooter’s private group instagram chat.

In his first message to the chat group, Cruz bragged about writing a letter to President Donald Trump — and receiving a response. CNN reached out to the White House for comment about any correspondence to and from Cruz but has not heard back.

There’s much more.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:00:27pm

re: #130 Belafon

Unless it’s a bulletproof Spider-man costume, it’s not going to entirely help.

Better than nothin’.

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calochortus  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:02:32pm

re: #134 whitebeach

I don’t believe in an afterlife either. But literal belief in this or that has little or nothing to do with the power of metaphor. I don’t need to believe or not believe in an afterlife to feel the force, the pain in fact, of what the cartoonist here is telling us.

Oh, I understand it, and it had that emotional impact on me, but it was followed by “wait a minute, here.” Opinions will vary.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:03:18pm

re: #129 De Kolta Chair

Except he wants ALL of the treats. Little piggy!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:03:30pm

re: #131 Belafon

I tell my wife the purpose of dogs is to spoil them.

I don’t have a dog, but I tell my wife all the time that substituting mayonnaise for butter on a grilled cheese sandwich is a great thing, and she laughs and laughs. But I’m having the last laugh right now muyyyaaaahhh!!!!

Did I say that aloud?

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majii  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:05:46pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

“He killed 17 human beings. I don’t give a rats ass if he’s broken or not. Lock his shithead ass up and throw away the key, fucking monster.

And yeah, maybe this wouldn’t have happened if he couldn’t access guns. But that’s not the country we live in. And you know what? Not a goddamned thing is going to change. The countdown clock to the next gun massacre is at two days right now.”

Because I taught high school for 33 years, I know there are broken kids. I taught some of them. The thing I do know is that none of them ever took a weapon, came back to the school, pulled a fire alarm, and killed their peers and some of their teachers. This is a BS-filled excuse from Cruz. Not for one milli-second will I ever believe he didn’t know what he was doing and why he was doing it. He doesn’t get a do-over with me, and I won’t be joining his after-the-fact pity/excuse-making party. Cruz and his excuse-makers can go frick themselves with a giant rusty nail, including the family that took him in and are now claiming they are in shock about what he did. Hell, Cruz posted pics of his weapons on social media from their home. They had to be fricking clueless to not know he had an assault-style weapon in his bedroom on their premises. I don’t want to hear anything from them, either. I’m old school. If there’s a kid living in my house, you better know I’m going to know what s/he is doing.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:05:56pm
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Belafon  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:06:15pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:07:37pm

re: #138 calochortus

Oh, I understand it, and it had that emotional impact on me, but it was followed by “wait a minute, here.” Opinions will vary.

True that. Hence my thought that the existence of an after life as a wholly separate possibility from the existence of a creator/monitor/punisher god. Quantum all the way down… Change is far more common than sudden non existence. Physics leaves room for wonder.

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majii  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:10:15pm

re: #76 Jay C

” if it’s known/suspected that teachers are packing in the classroom, wouldn’t that simply make them the first targets for gunmen?’

If I had been armed at my school, I had some students who would have stolen my gun. Some of my students came straight out of juvenile facilities having spent time in them for burglary, grand theft auto, drugs, and gang-banging. They didn’t belong in the classroom with other students, but the law said we had to take them after they’d been released from juvenile detention.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:15:10pm

re: #141 majii

My counter argument to this is one Eric Harris. He fooled everyone around him: his friends, his parents, his probation officer, school folks. No one knew he had a bunch of pipe bombs, two illegally purchased guns (including a sawed-off shotgun) and he *filmed it all,* no one knew. Eric Harris left behind lots of journals, audio, and video. And the FBI determined pretty definitively that Eric suffered from severe psychopathy. So bad it led to him recruiting another “broken” human to try and blow up Columbine High School.

Everyone should read Columbine by Dave Cullen. That book is becoming more important as time goes on.

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majii  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:15:20pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

Groot reminds me of my Penelope. The girl loves cheese, especially Parmesan.

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majii  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:18:01pm

re: #122 Citizen K

“That’s one of the worst things about any mass shooting incident: those stirring shit and/or plotting copycat crimes in the wake. It’s hard to tell who’s just being a monstrous troll or who’s legitimately been inspired to follow through with similar atrocities in these cases, but the fact that folks would even think to take advantage of that atmosphere is….”

A middle schooler at a charter school here in north GA was arrested today for making threats on social media. Some students saw the message, informed their parents, and parents contacted law enforcement.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:20:57pm

re: #97 whitebeach

Jesus, sleuth, that hurts.

Yeah, it sure does.

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whitebeach  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:22:06pm

re: #127 dirkdigglerjr

HP, the chihuahua, wants to chase Mr. Raccoon and expects treats each time he brings back the squeaky toy. Spoiled rotten!

My little American Eski used to get a treat after she went into the fenced yard and did her business and barked to be let back in. After a while I began to worry that she had some kind of serious bladder infection, since she seemed to need to go out every ten minutes. I watched from a window and saw that she was only sniffing around for a minute or so before coming to the door to bark and get her treat. So I followed her out a couple of times and, when she pulled this stunt, told her “You didn’t do anything, Betsy, no treat!” Tail down. Persecuted look. But no treat. The next time I did this, she ran back into the yard and dropped her little butt for a red-hot two seconds, then scooted back to the door and barked. OK, treat. What else could I do?

Dogs are way smarter than most humans have ever thought.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:29:23pm

re: #150 whitebeach

HP turns a year old next month. And he will get all of the treats he wants from me and mrsddjr. Indeed, dogs have learned how to train us and not the other way around.

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Semper Fi  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:30:17pm

I love stories like that. Lol

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Jay C  Feb 16, 2018 • 8:33:39pm

re: #128 makeitstop

Yeah, they look twice as wide, half as tall. Probably better for storing books, not so great for hanging up a long coat.

Probably not much of an issue in Florida.

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fern01  Feb 16, 2018 • 9:24:18pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

in Greater Cincinnati:

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It is, to me crazy and impossible that the FBI - or any law enforcement agency can possibly keep track of any or every school child who threatens someone. Police do not belong in schools. Teachers and parents belong in schools.

If there were no guns, what was said on facebook - or anywhere else - would be teenagers ranting - nothing else.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 16, 2018 • 10:12:10pm

re: #127 dirkdigglerjr

HP, the chihuahua, wants to chase Mr. Raccoon and expects treats each time he brings back the squeaky toy. Spoiled rotten!

Hey, he’s EARNING those treats!

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SpikeDad  Feb 17, 2018 • 7:47:57am

You’d think Curling would be the national sport of Republicans with all the sweeping away stuff…


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