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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:31:24am

I’m going to guess that the WH has been busily trying to gather bereaved families of people killed by undocumented people for the SOTU gallery and are now thinking, “well hell, should they come or not….”

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plansbandc  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:35:24am

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

The country is being run by a vile pig. I’m not enjoying it.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:36:25am

16 January 2003, 15:40:21.7 UTC, T plus 00:0 1:21.7

16 January 2003, 15:39:00 UTC, T minus Zero: Space Shuttle Columbia (STS-107) lifted off from Launch Complex 39A at the Kennedy Space Center, Cape Canaveral, Florida.

Columbia (OV-102) was America’s first space shuttle. This would be her final flight.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:40:45am

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

16 January 2003, 15:40:21.7 UTC, T plus 00:0 1:21.7

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The most horrible thing about Columbia was that Mission Control knew the flight was doomed from the beginning and there was no way to abort and return the astronauts.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:41:34am

I expect one of two equally childish responses from the WH to Nancy’s letter.

The first is the passive-aggressive “Well, we didn’t want to attend anyway!,” which they may try to phrase in some manner they think shows him to be the “bigger man,” but really just comes off as snotty response to being told he’s not welcome.

The second is to declare that it doesn’t matter what Nancy says now, she invited him and he’s gonna show up even if it means that only Republicans will attend. Or that, since she won’t allow him to give the SOTU before a joint session, he’ll just hold a rally on that day instead so he can tell the American people just how awesome his presidency is for them.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:41:38am

Do you think trump is stupid enough to hold a rally instead of the state of the union? I do. He really misses the crowds.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:41:41am

From downstairs:

re: #395 Myron Falwell

this is not a unified front we’re dealing with

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They’ll (the GOP, that is) crack in a couple more weeks. I’m already detecting a certain degree of panic on their part.

Their only real hope is that they cave in now and hope that their base forgets by next November.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:43:19am

re: #6 I Would Prefer Not To

Do you think trump is stupid enough to hold a rally instead of the state of the union? I do. He really misses the crowds.

Oh yes not a doubt in the world.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:44:03am

re: #5 Targetpractice

Could be a problem since she has the keys to the house.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:44:23am

re: #6 I Would Prefer Not To

Do you think trump is stupid enough to hold a rally instead of the state of the union? I do. He really misses the crowds.

Oh, absolutely; I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he did that.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:44:36am

Gee, it’s almost time again for the CPAC confab of right wing lunatics? So soon?

They don’t yet have a list of sponsors, but I imagine it’ll be much the same as 2018.

People they’re already touting: John Batchelor, Catherine Glenn Foster, President and CEO of Americans United for Life (a radical anti-abortion group), Lisa Daftari (who?!), Larry O’Connor (who?), Lawrence Jones, Mattie Duppler. Maybe Charlie Kirk too?

This is a shitshow of right wing know nothings and extremists pandering to like minded people.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:45:33am

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

Oh, absolutely; I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he did that.

And I can see the spin about how it makes him more “accessible “ even though it would be in one of his safe spaces.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:46:04am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:46:15am

re: #11 lawhawk

Isn’t there some other confab for those RWNJ’s that were kicked out of CPAC because they were too crazy? I could swear there was.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:46:40am

re: #11 lawhawk

Gee, it’s almost time again for the CPAC confab of right wing lunatics? So soon?

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They don’t yet have a list of sponsors, but I imagine it’ll be much the same as 2018.

People they’re already touting: John Batchelor, Catherine Glenn Foster, President and CEO of Americans United for Life (a radical anti-abortion group), Lisa Daftari (who?!), Larry O’Connor (who?), Lawrence Jones, Mattie Duppler. Maybe Charlie Kirk too?

This is a shitshow of right wing know nothings and extremists pandering to like minded people.

Well I feel bad for the rent boys and prostitutes because we know the CPAC attendees are terrible tippers and in bed.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:47:35am

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Eh, maybe they’ll be like Jerry Falwell Jr., and bring their own personal cabana boy.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:47:56am

Wut??

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:48:22am

re: #14 Dr Lizardo

Isn’t there some other confab for those RWNJ’s that were kicked out of CPAC because they were too crazy? I could swear there was.

Yeah I forget the details. CPAC is so fucking lame. It’s the same shit every year. A lot of whiny white conservatives jerking each other off about how awesome conservatism is and how everything Great is due to conservatives.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:50:26am

An intelligent president might well response to Nancy’s letter by agreeing with it in principle if not personally, saying that time and resources that would be spent on a SOTUA would better go to furthering negotiations to get the gov’t reopened.

But Trump doesn’t give a flying fuck if the gov’t reopens and does care totally about any chance to stroke his own ego, so he’ll find some way to spin himself as the victim.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:50:57am

re: #17 VegasGolfer

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Except it’s not being forced. Is baking for a couple for a couple who isn’t Christian acknowledging that you agree with the tenets of said religion? My problem tho is the double standards because a gay baker refusing to serve Christians would be the outrage de year for FNC and how a lot of these so called Christian bakers or florists are hypocrites.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:54:39am

The whole religious liberty thing is just a cop out. If we can’t refuse service based on race, religion, etc, we shouldn’t be able to on sexuality as well.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:55:35am

Cake is a secular good. It’s got nothing to do with the marriage itself.

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Alephnaught  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:56:12am

From George Osborne, who used to be the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer- effectively the number 2 in the government next to the Prime Minister. I say “used to be” as he was sacked by Theresa May. He’s now editor of the London Evening Standard. Anyway….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:57:18am

If you wa t to use your religion as a license to discriminate, you need consistency. I don’t see divorcees or even interfaith couples being denied services. That to me suggests it’s not scripture, it’s homophobic bs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:59:12am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

The whole religious liberty thing is just a cop out. If we can’t refuse service based on race, religion, etc, we shouldn’t be able to on sexuality as well.

There is the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony and there is the legal status of marriage. They used to be more or less identical. Nobody can force you to bestow the Sacrament onto people you disagree with, but you have to recognize their legal status.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:00:45am

re: #23 Alephnaught

From George Osborne, who used to be the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer- effectively the number 2 in the government next to the Prime Minister. I say “used to be” as he was sacked by Theresa May. He’s now editor of the London Evening Standard. Anyway….

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The Brexiteers made a lot of bullshit promises about how the EU as a whole would give the UK a sweet deal to leave because they wouldn’t want to piss off such a “vital” trade partner.

Amazing how, just like with Trump and his trade war, the UK is now finding out in the global era that no one country is so vital that cutting it off is impossible.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:01:49am

re: #25 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony and there is the legal status of marriage. They used to be more or less identical. Nobody can force you to bestow the Sacrament onto people you disagree with, but you have to recognize their legal status.

Exactly. No one forced Kim Davis that she had to agree with same sex marriage’s legality or its morality but as a public servant, she had to acknowledge applicants. Imagine an animal rights activist clerk refusing hunting licenses.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:03:50am

The problem with this shit though is it opens a nasty floodgate of conservative Christians in any field thinking they’re free to deny gay people. That’s not the country I want to live in. As I said, if the tables were turned, the religious right would lose their shit. This along with the rise of Transphobia is the right’s response ot having lost the same sex marriage debate just like the rise of anti-busing and creating private Christian academy was a response to integration.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:04:19am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

Cake is a secular good. It’s got nothing to do with the marriage itself.

According to some religion(s), the marriage must be consummated upon the cake made for the occasion, in the manner the newly married couple imagine it would be done by the two beings depicted in the icon adorning the cake (which icon must be removed in advance of said consummation and archived under the pillow of the Ring Bearer), were they not cast in plastic.

That’s what I’ve heard.

/edited. Does it make sense now? No? good.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:05:52am

re: #29 wrenchwench

According to some religion(s), the marriage must be consummated upon the cake made for the occasion, in the manner the newly married couple imagine it would be done by the two beings depicted in the icon adorning the cake (which icon must be removed in advance of said consummation and archived under the pillow of the Ring Bearer), were they not cast in plastic.

That’s what I’ve heard.

/edited. Does it make sense now? No? good.

Yeah my head hurts a wee bit.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:06:48am

No Confidence vote has just started for Theresa May.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:09:30am

WH talking point: “The Dems are beginning to break! They want to make a deal but Nancy won’t let them!”

The reality:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:10:07am

re: #32 Targetpractice

WH talking point: “The Dems are beginning to break! They want to make a deal but Nancy won’t let them!”

The reality:

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Repubs in disarray!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:10:16am

re: #31 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

No Confidence vote has just started for Theresa May.

I assume that her staff are busy packing crates at No. 10 Downing Street…

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:11:14am

re: #29 wrenchwench

According to some religion(s), the marriage must be consummated upon the cake made for the occasion, in the manner the newly married couple imagine it would be done by the two beings depicted in the icon adorning the cake (which icon must be removed in advance of said consummation and archived under the pillow of the Ring Bearer), were they not cast in plastic.

That’s what I’ve heard.

/edited. Does it make sense now? No? good.

Somehow your take makes me reconsider the whole stuffing cake in each others’ mouths part of the ceremony.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:11:28am

He deleted it. An instant wingnut classic.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:13:06am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I assume that her staff are busy packing crates at No. 10 Downing Street…

The CW is that she’ll hold on. Weird. I know. You’d think that the most lopsided loss on a vote for an issue the PM wants in 100+ years would end her government, but apparently she might still eke out a win to stay in charge of this shit show just a bit longer.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:13:12am

re: #35 ObserverArt

Somehow your take makes me reconsider the whole stuffing cake in each others’ mouths part of the ceremony.

OMG, what kind of weddings have YOU been to?

Ever played the music at a reception?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:14:00am
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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:14:03am

re: #37 lawhawk

The CW is that she’ll hold on. Weird. I know. You’d think that the most lopsided loss on a vote for an issue the PM wants in 100+ years would end her government, but apparently she might still eke out a win to stay in charge of this shit show just a bit longer.

My understanding is that the only reason the Tories will vote to defeat the motion is because the likely result of a snap election is a Labour minority gov’t with PM Corbyn.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:15:49am

re: #29 wrenchwench

Wait, what? The newlyweds are supposed to do their marital mattress mambo on the cake?!

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:15:56am

re: #40 Targetpractice

My understanding is that the only reason the Tories will vote to defeat the motion is because the likely result of a snap election is a Liberal minority gov’t with PM Corbyn.

Destroy the country or give up power? Definitely a tough choice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:16:37am

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:17:37am

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

Wait, what? The newlyweds are supposed to do their marital mattress mambo on the cake?!

Ooops, I told them I wouldn’t say anything.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:17:42am

re: #42 Belafon

Destroy the country or give up power? Definitely a tough choice.

Tories (and Republicans on this side of the Atlantic):

Shut it Down! Shut it Down Forever!

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Alephnaught  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:17:52am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I assume that her staff are busy packing crates at No. 10 Downing Street…

Well, maybe. I think she’ll survive the vote, but her authority definitely has been weakened. I noticed a couple of commentators note the speech by Michael Gove closing the the government’s side could be viewed as a leadership pitch. (Ditto the closing speech by Tom Watson for Labour.)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:18:06am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

He deleted it. An instant wingnut classic.

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I like to eat meat too but I’m not some delicate meat bro who thinks eating veggies makes you less of a man. People who think that way are fucking stupid.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:18:10am

re: #38 wrenchwench

OMG, what kind of weddings have YOU been to?

Ever played the music at a reception?

One time, in the first band I was in back like 1978.

Never wanted to do that again.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:18:16am

May survives No-confidence vote, just barely.

No-confidence vote defeated 306-325.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:18:22am

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

Wait, what? The newlyweds are supposed to do their marital mattress mambo on the cake?!

It’s what Jesus wanted.

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Alephnaught  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:19:40am

Yup, May survives, by 19 votes.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:20:45am

re: #49 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

May survives No-confidence vote, just barely.

No-confidence vote defeated 306-325.

Fear of PM Corbyn overrode any anger towards PM May.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:20:58am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

He deleted it. An instant wingnut classic.

I still don’t get it, replace his *** with a carrot.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:22:01am

In the past, such a result would have only been possible with the understanding that the PM would step down as such a scenario could generally only come about due to an utter fuck-up on their part.

But May’s time in the seat shows that, much like Trump, her ego is so huge that it exerts gravitational force.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:22:59am

re: #54 Targetpractice

Yep. The British need a way to force a vote in spite of the PM.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:23:03am

re: #11 lawhawk

Gee, it’s almost time again for the CPAC confab of right wing lunatics? So soon?

They don’t yet have a list of sponsors, but I imagine it’ll be much the same as 2018.

People they’re already touting: John Batchelor, Catherine Glenn Foster, President and CEO of Americans United for Life (a radical anti-abortion group), Lisa Daftari (who?!), Larry O’Connor (who?), Lawrence Jones, Mattie Duppler. Maybe Charlie Kirk too?

This is a shitshow of right wing know nothings and extremists pandering to like minded people.

Again?

It’s still only once a year, right?

This list sounds super lame even by CPAC-lame standards.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:23:37am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I like to eat meat too but I’m not some delicate meat bro who thinks eating veggies makes you less of a man. People who think that way are fucking stupid.

we were raised to believe that meat is somehow better food and that other foods were there just to fill you up because meat was too expensive to eat exclusinvely (again, proof that it was better)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:24:45am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:24:57am

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:25:17am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we were raised to believe that meat is somehow better food and that other foods were there just to fill you up because meat was too expensive to eat exclusinvely (again, proof that it was better)

Were we though? I mean yeah we liked eating meat when I was growing up and I would say almost too much but things like veggies were never disparaged. Modern masculinity is some weird ass shit.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:25:45am

re: #49 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

May survives No-confidence vote, just barely.

No-confidence vote defeated 306-325.

Wow that was fast

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:25:54am

re: #59 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Does Queen Elizabeth taste better than her gardener?

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:25:59am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we were raised to believe that meat is somehow better food and that other foods were there just to fill you up because meat was too expensive to eat exclusinvely (again, proof that it was better)

BEEF. It’s What’s marketed by tax deductible charity organizations.

Looks like it worked.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:26:36am

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:26:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:26:49am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:26:53am

re: #52 Targetpractice

Fear of PM Corbyn overrode any anger towards PM May.

“We’re angry enough to hold a ‘no confidence’ vote on you, but not angry or crazy enough to allow the other crazy incompetent dude to form the government.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:27:31am

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And that Greenwald Bros is why we weren’t joining you to give Trump credit for Syria.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:27:35am

re: #64 Amory Blaine

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I can’t unsee that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:27:39am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:28:19am

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

So who does DJT blame for this?

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Kilroy was here  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:28:55am

OT.. had to say goodbye to good friend today…
Tai (he was a rescue from Taiwan) was an odd one. Softest fur I’d ever felt, body that looked like it was created from a six year old’s drawing. Flying nun ear to top it off.

I can not think of anything that sucks more than having to make that call…

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:29:08am

re: #70 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So Pooty must have expanded his list of dependents in the US Senate.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:29:41am

re: #70 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Assholes. Who were the eleven?

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:29:42am

re: #69 Sir John Barron

I can’t unsee that.

It can’t be ungrown. It must be boiled.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:29:49am

re: #72 Kilroy was here

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I can not think of anything that sucks more than having to make that call…

Oh, man, so sorry. Be good to yourself today.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:29:51am

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

I’m going to guess that the WH has been busily trying to gather bereaved families of people killed by undocumented people for the SOTU gallery and are now thinking, “well hell, should they come or not….”

Not; Pelosi isn’t going to relent as long as the government remains shutdown.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:29:56am

(((Kilroy))) So sorry.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:30:18am

One of the biggest takeaways for me from the British Parlimentary debates over the last two days is that John Bercow (Speaker of the House of Commons) is certifiably badass. I would trade Mitch McConnell for him in a heartbeat.

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ericblair  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:30:29am

re: #55 Belafon

Yep. The British need a way to force a vote in spite of the PM.

My understanding is that this is exactly what happened last week: Theresa May ‘surprised’ John Bercow allowed Brexit amendment.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:30:34am

re: #77 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Not; Pelosi isn’t going to relent as long as the government remains shutdown.

Pelosi is censoring MAGA POTUS Free Speech!

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:31:16am

re: #72 Kilroy was here

Sorry to hear that.

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plansbandc  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:31:26am

re: #72 Kilroy was here

I’m so sorry. It’s so hard to do.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:31:38am

re: #79 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

One of the biggest takeaways for me from the British Parlimentary debates over the last two days is that John Bercow (Speaker of the House of Commons) is certifiably badass. I would trade Mitch McConnell for him in a heartbeat.

Dude, I’d probably take Trent Lott or Bill Frist back over McConnell. That’s a really low bar. But that does show you that the Brits do have one better thing than us though we by far have the better opposition leader in Nancy Pelosi over Jeremy Corbyn.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:31:40am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Assholes. Who were the eleven?

11 voted with the Dems.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:31:41am

re: #80 ericblair

My understanding is that this is exactly what happened last week: Theresa May ‘surprised’ John Bercow allowed Brexit amendment.

I meant full government elections.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:31:42am

re: #11 lawhawk

CPAC.

aka, the White Men Grievance Theater

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:32:13am

re: #72 Kilroy was here

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I can not think of anything that sucks more than having to make that call…

I feel your pain. We had to put ours down last month and it still breaks my heart.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:32:45am

re: #85 Sir John Barron

11 voted with the Dems.

No, I know that. I was calling the others who defeated this the assholes. My grammar implied otherwise. Sorry.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:33:02am

re: #87 Rocky-in-Connecticut

CPAC.

aka, the White Men Grievance Theater

White Christian Heterosexual man.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:33:05am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:33:41am

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Does Queen Elizabeth taste better than her gardener?

Deplorable though they are, a stash of these would still be a better hedge against social collapse than actual gold, since you can actually eat them. A truckload of corned beef hash would be much better though.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:34:11am

re: #91 lawhawk

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Maybe we could bring up the names of the men and women killed at embassies in the Bush years if FNC wants to play that sick game. Stevens’ family has repeatedly asked you to stop using their dead family member to push your fucked pu agenda.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:34:52am

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Deplorable though they are, a stash of these would still be a better hedge against social collapse than actual gold, since you can actually eat them. A truckload of corned beef hash would be much better though.

Heh I know. It’s just they said the chocolate tasted like royalty. And hel lyeah corned beef hash.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:35:02am

re: #72 Kilroy was here

I’m going to miss that ear, and I’ve only seen those 2 pix!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:35:21am

re: #91 lawhawk

I can’t believe…well yes actually I can believe they’re that craven and hypocritical.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:36:19am

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Maybe we could bring up the names of the men and women killed at embassies in the Bush years if FNC wants to play that sick game. Stevens’ family has repeatedly asked you to stop using their dead family member to push your fucked pu agenda.

WHY ARE YOU POLITICIZING THE EMBASSY DEATHS?!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:36:19am

re: #96 Sir John Barron

I can’t believe…well yes actually I can believe they’re that craven and hypocritical.

They will do anything to push the narrative that no American ever died at an embassy or consulate before Benghazi. And I will never forget Mitt Romney’s shit eating grin the minute he tried to exploit that tragedy to attack Obama and Clinton and it’s why I will never want him as an ally against Trump. Romney can go fuck himself.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:37:39am

re: #71 Sir John Barron

So who does DJT blame for this?

Obama of course.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:37:44am

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Maybe we could bring up the names of the men and women killed at embassies in the Bush years if FNC wants to play that sick game. Stevens’ family has repeatedly asked you to stop using their dead family member to push your fucked pu agenda.

This vote is really hard to understand given how Very Tough DJT and the GOP has been on Russia and Putin.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:38:51am
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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:39:13am

I haven’t rtwt, I’m not sure it’s up yet. This was plenty, imho.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:39:46am

re: #75 wrenchwench

It can’t be ungrown. It must be boiled.

Chopped up and stir fried with other yummy vegies.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:40:04am

re: #29 wrenchwench

According to some religion(s), the marriage must be consummated upon the cake made for the occasion, in the manner the newly married couple imagine it would be done by the two beings depicted in the icon adorning the cake (which icon must be removed in advance of said consummation and archived under the pillow of the Ring Bearer), were they not cast in plastic.

That’s what I’ve heard.

/edited. Does it make sense now? No? good.

Many people say so!/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:40:21am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:40:32am

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FNC: Were you aware that Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster?
Trump: Murder is okay sometimes.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:40:55am

re: #72 Kilroy was here

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I can not think of anything that sucks more than having to make that call…

You rescued him, and he gave you love. You returned it. It is all good. Take care.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:40:56am
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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:41:40am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:41:56am

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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Uh no. They’re a private organization. They mots certainly are allowed to list you as a hate group.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:42:10am

re: #37 lawhawk

The CW is that she’ll hold on. Weird. I know. You’d think that the most lopsided loss on a vote for an issue the PM wants in 100+ years would end her government, but apparently she might still eke out a win to stay in charge of this shit show just a bit longer.

The only thing the Tories hate more than each other is the thought of Jeremy Corbyn as PM.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:43:09am

re: #103 ObserverArt

Chopped up and stir fried with other yummy vegies.

I was trying not to get so graphic.

I guess I left it to a professional.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:43:15am

morons

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:43:59am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons

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This motherfucker.

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Citizen K  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:44:36am

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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Fuck them. They’re the group that, among other smash hits, suggested during her nomination process that then-Judge Sonia Sotomayor was inherently un-American, because she didn’t pronounce her own goddamn last name ‘the American way’.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:44:45am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons

Thanks for sharing, Kevin.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:45:09am

re: #54 Targetpractice

In the past, such a result would have only been possible with the understanding that the PM would step down as such a scenario could generally only come about due to an utter fuck-up on their part.

But May’s time in the seat shows that, much like Trump, her ego is so huge that it exerts gravitational force.

Another factor may be that no other Tory wants to preside over this shitshow.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:46:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:47:12am

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Were we though? I mean yeah we liked eating meat when I was growing up and I would say almost too much but things like veggies were never disparaged. Modern masculinity is some weird ass shit.

I not, but I know lots of people who were.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:47:52am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:48:18am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons

It’s really a shame that Speaker Pelosi is allowing “politics” to interfere with inviting the guy on Twitter who’s busy insulting her to the House to give a speech celebrating himself during a shutdown of his making that is impoverishing some 800,000 workers.

/

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:48:37am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I not, but I know lots of people who were.

I dunno. it just seems like this is a new thing. Like I remember people thinking yeah vegetarianism was not the norm but not to the point of being actually enraged by veggie or vegan options. I’ve known both vegans and hardcore meatanarian types and the former is a lot more chill than the latter.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:48:48am

re: #112 wrenchwench

I was trying not to get so graphic.

I guess I left it to a professional.

I’m all about integrity and a just end. Boiled vegetables is a sin against both vegetables and humanity.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:49:33am

re: #120 Charles Johnson

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Maybe because Mitt’s an empty fraud, Max. Look at the current Ambassador to Germany who embraced the far right candidates there. That guy is Mitt Romney’s former FP guy who was fired by the Romney campaign not for being a far right dick but because he was gay. And Romney also made Kris Kobach his immigration guy. Stop acting like Mitt ROmney is going to save your ideology because he’s not. He’s just eager for to be relevant again.

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Alephnaught  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:50:32am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I like to eat meat too but I’m not some delicate meat bro who thinks eating veggies makes you less of a man. People who think that way are fucking stupid.

My husband’s been vegetarian since his twenties, and he’s gone full blown vegan in recent years for health reasons. So, although I’m not vegetarian myself, I eat a lot of vegan food with him. Ditto with my veggie/vegan friends, of which I have a fair amount. The options for vegan food in Glasgow are really good at the moment. Not just dedicated vegan places, like The Flying Duck or Mono, but better vegan options at other places. I hear you can even get a vegan sausage roll at Greggs these days! And it’s really good, tasty, satisfying, quality food- light years ahead of the old stereotypes about nut cutlets.

So, when I hear all this guff about not eating meat feminising men, I think:
a) You’ve obviously never perused the burger menu in the Flying Duck.
b) Women can and do eat meat.
c) Why am I even entertaining this obviously made up vision of what it means to be a man? If you really want to embody this mythical caveman-cum-huter-gatherer cliche, what the fuck are you doing on Twitter?

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:51:12am

re: #123 ObserverArt

I’m all about integrity and a just end. Boiled vegetables is a sin against both vegetables and humanity.

Decades ago, I had an aunt who lived in Santa Ana, CA and we’d make our once a year trek to see her. She insisted she was some great gourmet cook and she always had the one thing she’d make……stuffed cabbage. Boiled stuffed cabbage.

Boiled until the cabbage had been essentially liquified.

Then she’d take us all out to Pioneer Chicken, LOL.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:52:16am

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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First Amendment, bitches.

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piratedan  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:52:36am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

just like the GOP controlled House during the tenure of Paul Ryan wouldn’t even let Dems introduce legislation for discussion, politics … pure politics.

With all due respect, GFY Mr. McCarthy

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:53:12am

re: #125 Alephnaught

My husband’s been vegetarian since his twenties, and he’s gone full blown vegan in recent years for health reasons. So, although I’m not vegetarian myself, I eat a lot of vegan food with him. Ditto with my veggie/vegan friends, of which I have a fair amount. The options for vegan food in Glasgow are really good at the moment. Not just dedicated vegan places, like The Flying Duck or Mono, but better vegan options at other places. I hear you can even get a vegan sausage roll at Greggs these days! And it’s really good, tasty, satisfying, quality food- light years ahead of the old stereotypes about nut cutlets.

So, when I hear all this not guff about not eating meat feminising men, I think:
a) You’ve obviously never perused the burger menu in the Flying Duck.
b) Women can and do eat meat.
c) Why am I even entertaining this obviously made up vision of what it means to be a man? If you really want to embody this mythical caveman-cum-huter-gatherer cliche, what the fuck are you doing on Twitter?

The Greggs Vegan roll is what set off Morgan isn’t it? And I agree totally. There are a lot of delicious vegan/veggie opitions. One of my favorite places in DC is a Falafel place. Love going there after a show or barhopping for a delicious falafel sandwich. And yeah plenty of women do eat meat too. My grandmother loves bacon more than I do. And yeah if you’re such a He-man, why are you on Twitter? Shouldn’t you be chasing the mammoths?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:53:18am

re: #109 wrenchwench

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This would be a good time to market survival seeds in the UK.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:54:44am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:55:00am

re: #120 Charles Johnson

One would hope that Max is finally coming to terms with the inescapable fact that everything he had worked for all his life was nothing but a lie.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:55:23am

re: #131 Charles Johnson

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I go with Occam’s here Charles. Romney is a loyal Republican foot soldier first and foremost.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:55:37am

re: #131 Charles Johnson

“Utah’s values” lol

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:56:07am

re: #132 Myron Falwell

One would hope that Max is finally coming to terms with the inescapable fact that everything he had worked for all his life was nothing but a lie.

I would hope so. He’s better than some of them but weaker than some of them. The most legit one is Ana Navarro IMO.

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Alephnaught  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:56:29am

re: #79 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

One of the biggest takeaways for me from the British Parlimentary debates over the last two days is that John Bercow (Speaker of the House of Commons) is certifiably badass. I would trade Mitch McConnell for him in a heartbeat.

Well, the Speaker in the House of Commons is supposed to be impartial, so there is that. BTW If you want badass Speakers of the House of Commons, check out one of his predecessors, Betty Boothroyd.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:56:46am

re: #134 Myron Falwell

“Utah’s values” lol

Hey Utah is just one of 50 states that Mitt Romney calls home. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:56:55am
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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:57:02am

Am I wrong for noting Kevin McCarty often has the same ‘WTF is going on’ expression in his eyes that is seen on one Tucker Carlson’s blank face?

Is that a Californian conservative thing?

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:58:05am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons

I almost agree with some conservatives that the SOTU has become a farce anyway and that this is a ritual we can do without.

I’d much rather the WH put out a short letter/memo explaining the work of each department, what new challenges each faces, etc, more like what the WH once did a century ago. It would be eleventy-percent more informative.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:58:56am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

And they’re bellyaching about Pelosi disinviting DJT to give a SOTU during his shutdown.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:00:08pm

re: #141 Sir John Barron

And they’re bellyaching about Pelosi disinviting DJT to give a SOTU during his shutdown.

To play Ron Paul’s favorite game, there’s nothing that says the President must be present before Congress. Trump can always deliver a note.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:01:20pm

she looks like that alien at the end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:02:18pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

To play Ron Paul’s favorite game, there’s nothing that says the President must be present before Congress. Trump can always deliver a note.

That would damage Trump’s poor little ego, though. Sure he could hold a rally wherever at that time but no network that’s not named Fox would be obligated to carry it live.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:03:20pm

So now May has to put together and present a Brexit Plan B to Parliament by Monday. What that could possibly be, I haven’t a clue. The EU has already refused to renegotiate the deal they just overwhelmingly rejected. All I can think of is, if they don’t want to crash out of the EU March 29, and they won’t schedule another referendum, is they can kick the can down the road by asking the EU for an extension on the March 29 deadline, so they can buy some time to continue to contemplate their navels.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:03:27pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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she looks like that alien at the end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

Okay, Ann. Here’s a deal. We’ll build a wall around you.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:03:36pm

Does anybody know a good place to learn Russian? Because it sure seems like this country wants to become like them

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:04:40pm

Gawker will be “Relaunched Early this Year: Here Are the Media Chuds Joining Fake Gawker

Gawker, a good website which was bankrupted in 2016 and then sold last year to Bryan Goldberg, a man committed to face-tuned photos of himself, creating shitty media companies powered by exploited labor, and spouting Richard Spencer-like bullshit about immigrant birth rates on Facebook, will be relaunched early this year. It will be led by Amanda Hale, who was most recently in charge of strategy and growth at the now-shriveled website the Outline. The staff—Carson Griffith, Ben Barna, Maya Kosoff, and Anna Breslaw—was announced today (hours after I messaged them saying I was naming them in this story) and holy shit!

No news whether Rage Furby has been offered a position yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:04:52pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:05:01pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:05:53pm

Imagine what insanity the GOP and media would come up with if a Democratic Predident kept the government closed for 26 days.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:06:12pm

re: #147 VegasGolfer

Does anybody know a good place to learn Russian? Because it sure seems like this country wants to become like them

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McConnell’s ultimate goal. A “democracy” run entirely for the benefit of oligarchs.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:06:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:08:01pm

re: #151 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine what insanity the GOP and media would come up with if a Democratic Predident kept the government closed for 26 days.

The analogy I used was this. Imagine if the Dems did nothing about health care in 09-10 and lost the House and Obama demanded that Congress pass universal health care or else he’d shut the government down. That’s what’s happening here. Trump and the Republicans did nothing about the border but then when they lost the House, they needed the wall. A Democratic President who did that would be rightfully denounced.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:10:28pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

or as we like to call it: tuesday

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:10:51pm

re: #153 I Would Prefer Not To

The Night’s Watch would like to remind everyone that a wall without proper staffing isn’t going to keep anyone out. The Night’s Watch would also like to remind folks that if you’re trying to enter the country lawfully, you can do so. Asylum is a legitimate reason to enter.

-Night’s Watch.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:11:01pm

So now of course Trump is going to do the SOTU in the House regardless of security concerns just to piss off Nancy Pelosi.

Pure red meat for the base.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:11:23pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

If she’s spouting this, that means they’re really shitting bricks over the senate GOP right now.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:11:28pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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If I add them to my list of “Inbred Feces-Flinging Baboons,” will they sue me?

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Amory Blaine  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:12:44pm

re: #132 Myron Falwell

One would hope that Max is finally coming to terms with the inescapable fact that everything he had worked for all his life was nothing but a lie.

That would require self awareness, so no.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:13:07pm
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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:14:05pm

A C&P. Worth reposting.

January 2017 = Trump inaugurated, GOP majority in both House & Senate.
01/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
02/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
03/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
04/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
05/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
06/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
07/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
08/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
08/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
09/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
10/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
11/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
12/2017 - Wall not an emergency.
01/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
02/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
03/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
04/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
05/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
06/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
07/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
08/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
09/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
10/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
11/2018 - Wall not an emergency.
11/2018 - Democratic majority in the House
01/2019 - EMERGENCY!

FACT: Border apprehensions are at a 45 yr low.
There is no crisis at the border. It’s fake news…..

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:14:06pm

Erik Prince would be willing to step in and provide security for the SOTU, but he knows that Trump would stiff him.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:15:02pm

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Erik Prince would be willing to step in and provide security for the SOTU, but he knows that Trump would stiff him.

Erikkk would be proud to be stiffed by Donnie. Erikkk would put it on his CV.

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Citizen K  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:18:42pm

re: #148 Dr. Matt

Gawker will be “Relaunched Early this Year: Here Are the Media Chuds Joining Fake Gawker

No news whether Rage Furby has been offered a position yet.

So in other words, they’re digging a hole in the ground and telling people it’s the stairway to heaven..

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:21:11pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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she looks like that alien at the end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

More like the Night King in Game of Thrones, except with an icier personality and paler complexion

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:21:13pm

Gillette: Men can be awesome when they aren’t acting like douchebags.

Douchebags: Hey, fuck you! We’re buying Schick now!

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:21:21pm

Run Mitch, run.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:22:26pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah I’m getting suspicious about Bernie more and more.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:24:28pm

Putin following a long Soviet policy of supporting totalitarian guerrilla groups to undermine Western Democracy.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:24:42pm

re: #168 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Run Mitch, run.

A little bit more. The House freshmen are now taking it directly to Mitch and it’s awesome.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:25:13pm

This seems… important:

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:25:18pm

re: #145 NO SMOCKING GUN!

So now May has to put together and present a Brexit Plan B to Parliament by Monday. What that could possibly be, I haven’t a clue. The EU has already refused to renegotiate the deal they just overwhelmingly rejected. All I can think of is, if they don’t want to crash out of the EU March 29, and they won’t schedule another referendum, is they can kick the can down the road by asking the EU for an extension on the March 29 deadline, so they can buy some time to continue to contemplate their navels.

I have a feeling that May’s Plan B is gonna be the same thing as her Plan A - the one that was just shot down.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:25:28pm

re: #170 DodgerFan1988

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Putin following a long Soviet policy of supporting totalitarian guerrilla groups to Western Democracy.

Two things, props to Jen for calling out her old favorite Romney here. Secondly, I see she’s tweeting that from Reston! That’s technically my hometown. First place I ever lived.

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Kilroy was here  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:26:28pm

Thanks everyone for the kind words..

Figured I share a little taste of Tai at the heights of his.. power?

Tai and the Potato Chip Bag


and yes he did this to himself..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:26:59pm

re: #171 Myron Falwell

A little bit more. The House freshmen are now taking it directly to Mitch and it’s awesome.

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I like this Three Amigas better than the Three Amigos of McCain, Graham, and Lieberman.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:28:13pm

Props to Kurt Bardella too. I’m not going to rush and invite either him or Jen to a platform making but they’re legit allies against Trump. I see them as actually being anti Trump. Not fake like Romney, Erick, and others.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:29:12pm

re: #132 Myron Falwell

One would hope that Max is finally coming to terms with the inescapable fact that everything he had worked for all his life was nothing but a lie.

It’s not going to happen all at once. We’ll have to give him some time.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:30:03pm

re: #171 Myron Falwell

A little bit more. The House freshmen are now taking it directly to Mitch and it’s awesome.

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How dare those Congresspeople try and get something done!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:30:10pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:31:07pm

re: #72 Kilroy was here

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I can not think of anything that sucks more than having to make that call…

Oh damn.

Had to do that with my kits a few years back. Still tears me up when I think of it.

Sympathy & hugs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:31:40pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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And I remember a lot of lefty and libertarian types telling us that we should give Trump his due here and it’s like nope guys. But hey Glenn Greenwald whine some more about how “hawkish” Dems are getting even though asshole Trump didn’t have a clue what the hell he was doing in Syria which is exactly why this got criticized.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:35:02pm

I’m thinking the last time the US military had a lapse of pay that even approached this?

The US War of Independence, when the troops routinely had issues getting paid.

But please, do go on about how Trump is making us safer.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:35:38pm

re: #183 lawhawk

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I’m thinking the last time the US military had a lapse of pay that even approached this?

The US War of Independence, when the troops routinely had issues getting paid.

But please, do go on about how Trump is making us safer.

Or that no one respects the military like Trump does.

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sagehen  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:43:20pm

re: #183 lawhawk

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I’m thinking the last time the US military had a lapse of pay that even approached this?

The US War of Independence, when the troops routinely had issues getting paid.

But please, do go on about how Trump is making us safer.

There was an issue in the 30’s about veterans getting paid:
stripes.com

The troops massed on the Ellipse, right outside the White House: More than two hundred soldiers on horseback, plus men on foot and five tanks.

On July 28, 1932, at the command of Gen. Douglas MacArthur, they marched down Pennsylvania Avenue toward the Capitol to launch an attack on World War I veterans.

It was the height of the Great Depression. Nearly 20,000 unemployed veterans had converged on Washington to demand bonus payments from Congress and President Herbert Hoover. Led by Walter W. Waters, a former sergeant from Oregon, they called themselves the Bonus Army or Bonus Expeditionary Forces, a nod to World War I’s American Expeditionary Forces.

Many saw the Bonus Army as heroes.

“They made themselves into a symbol of the Depression - the symbol of the forgotten man,” said historian Lucy Barber, deputy executive director at the National Archives. “Their status as veterans and patriots gave them a much greater claim on the country. With the image of all the other people lining up at the soup kitchens - in some ways, they were considered the most deserving of those people.”

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ericblair  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:45:47pm

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

I have a feeling that May’s Plan B is gonna be the same thing as her Plan A - the one that was just shot down.

I can’t see what else it will be, given there’s no time to do anything and absolutely no reason on the EU’s part to change anything. May’s only strategy is to grind away until the opposition just gets tired of her shit and gives in, but there’s no reason why that would work now. So it’s Plan B which is Plan A but with floor mats and undercoating.

At least Corbyn is pushing for her to rule out no-deal Brexit, so that’s something. That has support on both sides of the aisle. If that happens, it’s May’s Brexit lite or Referendum II: The Referendumbing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:45:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:46:54pm

re: #185 sagehen

There was an issue in the 30’s about veterans getting paid:
stripes.com

That event is part of why we got the GI Bill. And that whole incident is definitely a stain on Hoover who I think otherwise was a pretty decent man but screw MacArthur. Great general but not one of my favorite people in American military history.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:47:06pm

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

I have a feeling that May’s Plan B is gonna be the same thing as her Plan A - the one that was just shot down.

That will go over like a wet fart.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:56:35pm

re: #170 DodgerFan1988

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Putin following a long Soviet policy of supporting totalitarian guerrilla groups to undermine Western Democracy.

Republi-Cong?

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:57:28pm

re: #172 lawhawk

This seems… important:

Tonight on Hannity: The GSA, whatever it stands for, is an out of control, rogue agency that must be disbanded.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:57:30pm
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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 12:59:14pm

Federal employees warned against ‘partisan political activity’ in the midst of Trump’s wall shutdown: report

Translation: Employers are telling their employees what not to do on their own time despite the fact that said employer is NOT paying said employees.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:01:00pm

re: #191 Sir John Barron

Tonight on Hannity: The GSA, whatever it stands for, is an out of control, rogue Deep State agency that must be disbanded.

Slight edit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:01:00pm

re: #186 ericblair

I can’t see what else it will be, given there’s no time to do anything and absolutely no reason on the EU’s part to change anything. May’s only strategy is to grind away until the opposition just gets tired of her shit and gives in, but there’s no reason why that would work now. So it’s Plan B which is Plan A but with floor mats and undercoating.

At least Corbyn is pushing for her to rule out no-deal Brexit, so that’s something. That has support on both sides of the aisle. If that happens, it’s May’s Brexit lite or Referendum II: The Referendumbing.

May could well be planning on grinding down opposition to her working agreement. To be fair, that strategy might work, despite the hardcore Brexiteers.

She’s playing a grand game of chicken, but I think this whole debacle is going to have repercussions for the next decade or more. And if all goes to shit, economically speaking, then in the long run, the UK might just end up re-joining the EU in about 20 years or so - much to the horror, presumably, of those who voted to leave.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:01:06pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:01:09pm

re: #179 bd(it’s all true)

How dare those Congresspeople try and get something done!

I love this seeing the new freshmen be this visible and doing this type of a meaningful public attention-getter. It makes for a powerful combination with a determined leader like Pelosi. If this was an accidental setup, it’s the best possible accident, as they compliment each other brilliantly.

Nothing like seeing which party is firmly in the offense and which is firmly in the defense and starting to crack under pressure.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:03:21pm

re: #197 Myron Falwell

I love this seeing the new freshmen be this visible and doing this type of a meaningful public attention-getter. It makes for a powerful combination with a determined leader like Pelosi. If this was an accidental setup, it’s the best possible accident, as they compliment each other brilliantly.

Nothing like seeing which party is firmly in the offense and which is firmly in the defense and starting to crack under pressure.

McTurtle: This is all about politics and very political partisan politics not like the totally disinterested, bipartisan, country above party way I’ve acted ever since I gained office.

///

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:04:01pm

GOP = Giving it Over to Putin

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:04:22pm
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:09:05pm

I just read this on Wonkette and plan to use the following script when I call my senators (Cruz and Cornyn) later today:

Are you currently receiving a paycheck? Since i have a federal tax obligation that pays your wages, I don’t consider it to be a personal question.

Has the senator issued any statements about whether FDA food inspections are, in fact, essential, and that their elimination is a bad thing? No?

Has the senator issued any statements about whether FAA airplane inspections are, in fact, essential, and that their elimination is a bad thing? No?

Has the senator issued any statements about whether the FAA program ensuring that airplanes land on the correct runway (and not a taxiway) is, in fact, essential, and that its elimination is a bad thing? No?

I’m glad you will be able to enjoy your paycheck without concern for your family’s well being. But I am very concerned about furloughed workers being prohibited from working, and I’m also very concerned about others who are compelled to work without pay. That’s why I am urging the senator to vote to re-open the government as soon as possible.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:09:12pm

re: #185 sagehen

Those were veterans who were being denied their payments. They weren’t active service members.

Active service members were with MacArthur and forced the vets to disperse.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:09:53pm
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ericblair  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:10:54pm

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

May could well be planning on grinding down opposition to her working agreement. To be fair, that strategy might work, despite the hardcore Brexiteers.

She’s playing a grand game of chicken, but I think this whole debacle is going to have repercussions for the next decade or more. And if all goes to shit, economically speaking, then in the long run, the UK might just end up re-joining the EU in about 20 years or so - much to the horror, presumably, of those who voted to leave.

It’s a game of chicken, alright. The problem is that a few want to crash the car for insurance money, some others are quite convinced the other guy will blink, and a considerable number figure that their car will grow wings and fly off.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:11:38pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m getting suspicious about Bernie more and more.

I’ve been saying that since 2017, when Bernie was one of two senators (the other being Rand Paul) who voted against Russian sanctions. Of course now 43 Senators would vote against sanctions (42 R + 1 D).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:15:18pm

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

May could well be planning on grinding down opposition to her working agreement. To be fair, that strategy might work, despite the hardcore Brexiteers.

She’s playing a grand game of chicken, but I think this whole debacle is going to have repercussions for the next decade or more. And if all goes to shit, economically speaking, then in the long run, the UK might just end up re-joining the EU in about 20 years or so - much to the horror, presumably, of those who voted to leave.

We’ll see Monday, I guess. Its hard to imagine she would have the chutzpah to come back to Parliament with the exact same plan that was just overwhelmingly rejected, but its difficult to see a way though that doesn’t involve either a catastrophe or the government making a humiliating surrender, much like Trump’s position on the shutdown.

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Citizen K  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:15:31pm

re: #205 Hecuba’s daughter

I’ve been saying that since 2017, when Bernie was one of two senators (the other being Rand Paul) who voted against Russian sanctions. Of course now 43 Senators would vote against sanctions (42 R + 1 D).

You mean 42 R + 1 I.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:17:32pm

re: #198 Sir John Barron

McTurtle: This is all about politics and very political partisan politics not like the totally disinterested, bipartisan, country above party way I’ve acted ever since I gained office.

///

Lol he probably does think that. And he better get used to it. :)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:18:41pm

re: #185 sagehen

There was an issue in the 30’s about veterans getting paid:
stripes.com

The back story of the assault on the Bonus March is a false report MacArthur had received from Colonel Conrad Lanza, who was stationed in New York and who was G-2 (staff intelligence) for the Northeastern military district.

An Army intelligence report said that the BEF intended to occupy the Capitol permanently and instigate fighting which would be a signal for Communist uprisings in all major cities. At least part of the Marine Corps garrison in Washington would side with the revolutionaries; hence Marine units eight blocks from the Capitol were never called upon (the report of July 5, 1932 by Conrad H. Lanza in upstate New York was not declassified until 1991).

Lanza (1878-1963) was a well known military author. Where he got this story of a communist uprising is anybody’s guess, but Mac bought it lock, stock and barrel.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:20:22pm

re: #208 Myron Falwell

Lol he probably does think that. And he better get used to it. :)

“How did all this politics get into this establishment?”

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:23:24pm

re: #206 NO SMOCKING GUN!

We’ll see Monday, I guess. Its hard to imagine she would have the chutzpah to come back to Parliament with the exact same plan that was just overwhelmingly rejected, but its difficult to see a way though that doesn’t involve either a catastrophe or the government making a humiliating surrender, much like Trump’s position on the shutdown.

A humiliating surrender will be the end of her and if the Tories agreed to revoke Article 50, they’ll be bounced out of power for the foreseeable future.

They’ve all painted themselves into one hell of a corner.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:24:25pm

re: #207 Citizen K

You mean 42 R + 1 I.

Ooops! Caucus with Democrats though. For the past 2 years I have said that Putin owned 3 candidates with Presidential ambitions: Trump, Jill, Bernie. And nothing has happened to challenge this assertion.

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sagehen  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:26:54pm

So I’m reading this Vanity Fair story about Meghan Markle, and it includes the following paragraph:

“Meanwhile, the royal family’s personal wealth, which encompasses castles and endless swathes of British countryside and crown jewels, including a 530-carat cut diamond, the world largest, to squabble over, has been estimated $85 billion.”

And it strikes me that Jeff Bezos, in 25 years, has amassed a fortune twice as large as the what the royal family of the world’s 6th biggest economy needed 10 times as long to put together. (5th biggest, if we only count country’s and remove California from the rankings).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:27:26pm

I don’t doubt that at all.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:28:29pm

re: #214 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I don’t doubt that at all.

“Many people are saying I’ve been the victim of a yuuuuge witch hunt.”

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:28:55pm

Remember when Donnie said “I alone” can keep Americans safe?

Remember when Donnie said “I can defeat ISIS in 30 days”?

Trump Lied, Troops Died

Lather.Rinse.Repeat

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gwangung  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:29:00pm

Folks did note this?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez secures powerful House committee seat that gives her a huge say over Wall Street

She’s really making enemies with the Democratic leadership, isn’t she? Getting a seat on an importation House committee with Rep. Maxine Waters…..Boy the neoliberal Democratic leadership really has it in for her….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:31:03pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:32:10pm

re: #196 Single-handed sailor

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I think the term you are looking for is “cesspool”.

A swamp and wetlands both are important contributors to the ecosystem, while a cesspool is just full of excrement.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:32:52pm
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:33:11pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m getting suspicious about Bernie more and more.

The other senators running can ask him about it.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:35:28pm

re: #220 lawhawk

So, dead in the House.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:36:49pm

Don’t need a dentist for this cavity search:

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:38:27pm

re: #222 Belafon

So, dead in the House.

McConnell is trying to throw all the red meat out for his base to respond to, while keeping government shut down (which is also red meat to the saboteurs in the base that think government must be shrunk to give them even more tax cuts).

He’s got to continually amp up the red meat because they’re not responding - it’s already at a boiling point, and he’s going to get diminishing returns going forward.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:39:02pm

re: #220 lawhawk

Mitch’s last stand. Throw everything but the kitchen sink to appease the red meaters while his own base is struggling to stay unfied.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:39:30pm

re: #217 gwangung

Folks did note this?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez secures powerful House committee seat that gives her a huge say over Wall Street

She’s really making enemies with the Democratic leadership, isn’t she? Getting a seat on an importation House committee with Rep. Maxine Waters…..Boy the neoliberal Democratic leadership really has it in for her….

Its fascinating; any other NY politician would love that assignment because Wall Street would shower money on them to help protect the hometown industry. But I think AOC has different plans.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:41:47pm

re: #224 lawhawk

McConnell is trying to throw all the red meat out for his base to respond to, while keeping government shut down (which is also red meat to the saboteurs in the base that think government must be shrunk to give them even more tax cuts).

He’s got to continually amp up the red meat because they’re not responding - it’s already at a boiling point, and he’s going to get diminishing returns going forward.

If McConnell is doing this now, he knows he’s in over his head. A string of DOA RWNJ bills aren’t going to move the needle one bit.

He’s losing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:42:11pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:43:26pm

First the word about the WH scrambling to stop Senate Republicans from signing the bipartisan letter, now this:

I’m predicting that Donny’s eventual cave will be to say if he can get just a bit more than the $1.6B the DNC is offering, then he’ll sign the bill just so he can tell his base that he got more for border security than he would have got if he hadn’t held out.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:43:35pm

re: #228 Myron Falwell

If McConnell is doing this now, he knows he’s in over his head. A string of DOA RNWJ bills aren’t going to move the needle one bit.

He’s losing.

He will throw democracy away before he gives up power.

Moreover, he’s also pursuing Grover Norquist’s dream.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:43:56pm

I missed this but Pelosi also offered up that Trump could deliver the SOTU from the Oval Office.

She’s needling Trump because he knows that a joint session of Congress is where you get a crowd response. The Oval Office? It’s just him and a teleprompter. His ego can’t handle it.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:44:07pm

re: #37 lawhawk

The CW is that she’ll hold on. Weird. I know. You’d think that the most lopsided loss on a vote for an issue the PM wants in 100+ years would end her government, but apparently she might still eke out a win to stay in charge of this shit show just a bit longer.

Why would she want to?

In her place I’d be moving to France with a, “So long, dipshits. It’s your bed now. Bedbugs and all.”

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gwangung  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:45:13pm

re: #226 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Its fascinating; any other NY politician would love that assignment because Wall Street would shower money on them to help protect the hometown industry. But I think AOC has different plans.

Hm. Don’t have a problem with that.

Neither does the Democratic leadership.

What does THAT say?

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:45:14pm

re: #232 lawhawk

I missed this but Pelosi also offered up that Trump could deliver the SOTU from the Oval Office.

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She’s needling Trump because he knows that a joint session of Congress is where you get a crowd response. The Oval Office? It’s just him and a teleprompter. His ego can’t handle it.

Ayep, this is about denying him what he wants, which is a large captive audience where he’s guaranteed applause from at least half those in attendance.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:46:02pm

re: #232 lawhawk

Oh god yes, Trump would absolutely hate having to do a SOTU speech under those circumstances.

He’d probably just have one written up and sent over to Congress and then bitch on Twitter about the Democrats.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:46:06pm

Yet another RWNJ who is probably telling the truth. This not a good sign: They’re so sure of themselves, they have decided to give up lying, at least on a trial basis.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:47:15pm

Must be nice living in a world where this nonsense is Yoge News. Bless their hearts.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:49:03pm

re: #53 Sir John Barron

I still don’t get it, replace his *** with a carrot.

A Freudian slip.

Like most wingnuts the central motivator for his identity is how manly his penis is. So everything is about making sure his penis is powerful and manly.

Of course even they know actually saying so makes them look exactly the opposite so they never mention their inferiority complex.

But sometimes they can’t help it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:51:13pm

re: #238 Dr. Matt

Over at Drudge: Border Ranchers Warn: We’re Finding Prayer Rugs Out Here!

Busy replaying the hits I see.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:52:55pm

re: #72 Kilroy was here

I’m so sorry for your loss.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:54:09pm

Fake Washington Post Newspapers Distributed in D.C.
hollywoodreporter.com

The newspaper said it was aware someone had produced forged newspapers with fake headlines and stories inside. A fake website was also apparently created.

The newspaper said it was looking into who created the fake papers. “There are fake print editions of The Washington Post being distributed around downtown D.C., and we are aware of a website attempting to mimic The Post’s. They are not Post products, and we are looking into this,” The Post’s verified public relations account stated.

At this time, it’s unclear who created the forgery. However, in a story, the Post noted that liberal activist organization Code Pink published a video on Facebook in which copies of the fake paper were handed out. “This just in! Handing out the Washington Post paper on Trump leaving the presidency,” the video was captioned.

Maybe they should save it. I can still see this ending with Trump or McConnell or both fleeing the country.

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:55:13pm

re: #185 sagehen

There was an issue in the 30’s about veterans getting paid:
stripes.com

Actually, the Bonus Marchers were collecting in Washington to [request/demand/push the Government for] early payment on their “bonus” for WWI service, which was not scheduled to be paid until 1945. But since so many of them were broke right then, they didn’t feel like having to wait another twelve-thirteen years.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:55:17pm

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹

Over at Drudge: Border Ranchers Warn: We’re Finding Prayer Rugs Out Here!

Busy replaying the hits I see.

And equally as oblivious to the law of diminishing returns as Trump and Mitch are.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:57:41pm

rasmussenreports.com

Ramussen reporting a poll saying if Rep. Ocasio-Cortez ran against Trump in 2020, she would give him a run for his money. They claim her support is nearly equal to Trumps (LOL Trump’s not even close).

That said, she isn’t eligible to run.

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:59:06pm

re: #230 Targetpractice

First the word about the WH scrambling to stop Senate Republicans from signing the bipartisan letter, now this:

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I’m predicting that Donny’s eventual cave will be to say if he can get just a bit more than the $1.6B the DNC is offering, then he’ll sign the bill just so he can tell his base that he got more for border security than he would have got if he hadn’t held out.

Exactly what I’ve always thought would be the best way out of this mess: which would not have become such a mess if we had a real President in the WH instead of a narcissistic TV conman.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:59:22pm

re: #245 Anymouse 🌹

rasmussenreports.com

Ramussen reporting a poll saying if Rep. Ocasio-Cortez ran against Trump in 2020, she would give him a run for his money. They claim her support is nearly equal to Trumps (LOL Trump’s not even close).

That said, she isn’t eligible to run.

Uh oh. That’s Trump’s favorite (and least reliable) pollster, no?

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 1:59:33pm

re: #72 Kilroy was here

So sorry about your loss. :(

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:00:14pm

re: #246 Jay C

Exactly what I’ve always thought would be the best way out of this mess: which would not have become such a mess if we had a real President in the WH instead of a narcissistic TV conman.

And a power-mad Senate Majority Leader.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:05:50pm

re: #230 Targetpractice

First the word about the WH scrambling to stop Senate Republicans from signing the bipartisan letter, now this:

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I’m predicting that Donny’s eventual cave will be to say if he can get just a bit more than the $1.6B the DNC is offering, then he’ll sign the bill just so he can tell his base that he got more for border security than he would have got if he hadn’t held out.

Hey, Nancy already agreed to give him a dollar for the wall!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:06:15pm

re: #72 Kilroy was here

j/FFiuUppPkGrmYHEePF4JvBYGM7oA2W/8QcY2E7DBdB9AoU74dQBUh19CG6AuVt+22kBxWrJJWc0sx8Fi2WuCuMYoZosl5g

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:06:16pm

Schumer to Trump: OK, so here’s what I can offier: We will tell everyone that you are getting the amount of money for the wall necessary to fulfill all of your obligcations as president for border security.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:07:50pm

I don’t think anyone posted this:

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freetoken  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:11:34pm

re: #247 Myron Falwell

Uh oh. That’s Trump’s favorite (and least reliable) pollster, no?

Rasmussen is just jumping on the bandwagon of flaming the latest boogeyman (boogeywoman) for the hate-right.

Rasmussen could have run that poll with any Democrat who has gotten national attention.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:13:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:14:50pm

re: #252 Belafon

Schumer to Trump: OK, so here’s what I can offier: We will tell everyone that you are getting the amount of money for the wall necessary to fulfill all of your obligcations as president for border security.

Pelosi could put a bill on the House floor outlining the Democrats are completely on-board with fulfilling Trump’s promise on WALL, to ensure every peso Mexico sends for it will be directed to that and nothing else.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:16:34pm

rawstory.com

Miller was writing the SOTU and planning on centering it around the shutdown, blaming Democrats. Except it won’t be as effective if he can’t do it from the House.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:16:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:17:16pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:18:31pm

re: #253 Belafon

I don’t think anyone posted this:

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I say he’ll just use his office or Senate chambers. You watch.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:18:35pm

re: #254 freetoken

Rasmussen is just jumping on the bandwagon of flaming the latest boogeyman (boogeywoman) for the hate-right.

Rasmussen could have run that poll with any Democrat who has gotten national attention.

Not a surprise. It’s also too predictable and boring AF.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:20:29pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:21:12pm

re: #260 Dave In Austin

I say he’ll just use his office or Senate chambers. You watch.

With no audience and no must-carry for the networks? A replacement speech would be just another regular prime-time address in front of the camera that he can’t do right at all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:21:36pm

[never mind, Jaunte got here first]

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:22:27pm

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

Floor Shitter’s beard continues to engulf his face, I see.

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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:25:37pm

re: #262 jaunte

Where is the twitter mob to flood their timelines with questions of “why are you giving time to a white supremacist?”

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:25:42pm

re: #262 jaunte

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:26:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:26:53pm

Have Poe or Harris said anything about King?

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:28:33pm

re: #262 jaunte

I think Rage Furby stole one of father’s ties from the 70s.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:29:17pm

re: #270 Dr. Matt

I think Rage Furby stole one of father’s ties from the 70s.

Those things on his feet look like turds.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:30:37pm
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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:30:50pm

re: #269 HappyWarrior

Have Poe or Harris said anything about King?

They’ve done the bare minimum by voting for the resolution, but other than that… doubt it.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:31:09pm

re: #72 Kilroy was here

I am so very sorry to hear that. My heart goes out to you and yours.

{{{{{{{{{ Kilroy }}}}}}}}}

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:32:47pm

re: #271 The Vicious Babushka

Those things on his feet look like turds.

And they look different. The left shoe looks square toed and the right curved….?

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:34:36pm

re: #275 Dr. Matt
It looks like one is brown and one is black.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:34:54pm

And in reasoning of why the GOP might want to throw out treaties signed with the Soviet Union on missile defence, exhibit A.

If you need lots of donations from defence corporations for your party, throwing scads of money at systems proven to be ineffective is just the ticket for corporate socialism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:36:08pm

re: #275 Dr. Matt

And they look different. The left shoe looks square toed and the right curved….?

Improperly dressing myself to own the libs.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:36:27pm

re: #275 Dr. Matt

And they look different. The left shoe looks square toed and the right curved….?

The right shoe looks like a cowboy boot and the left shoe is a wingtip.

Actually the “cowboy boot” is just motion blur.

Or is it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:37:07pm

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

The right shoe looks like a cowboy boot and the left shoe is a wingtip.

Actually the “cowboy boot” is just motion blur.

Or is it?

it looks like he’s taking tiny steps.

also, he still dresses like a slob

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:38:08pm

From 4 weeks ago, this is one of the GOP hacks Rage Furby is hanging out with….

As protests continue in Hungary, Andy Harris doubles down on his support for Viktor Orban

But even people who see the need to go to extremes for ideological balance might pause, or even shudder, at Harris’ support of Viktor Orban, the prime minister of Hungary and kindred spirit of Vladimir Putin. Whatever your party affiliation, if you’re an American who believes that the United States stands for freedom — and I think that’s still most of us, right? — you should be appalled at Harris’ adoration of an authoritarian ruler who appears to be one shoeshine away from full dictator status.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:38:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:40:53pm

Look who’s hanging out with Congressmen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:41:14pm

re: #278 retired cynic

I see “The polar vortex has fractured, and the eastern US faces a punishing stretch of winter weather.” Oh, joy.

Yikes. I see the map splits my state into two parts: Where I live will be slightly above average for this time of year, while Omaha will be -20°F off normal.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:41:42pm

This timeline is the floor-poopingest of all possible timelines.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:42:13pm

re: #282 Dr. Matt

From 4 weeks ago, this is one of the GOP hacks Rage Furby is hanging out with….

Paging Dana Rohrabacher…

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:43:36pm

re: #284 Charles Johnson

They just don’t care, do they? So why censure Rep Steve King and then hang around with Johnson?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:44:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:44:30pm

re: #283 MsJ

On the hunting issue, living in an area where hunting is a big deal, if there were no conservation officers, poaching would skyrocket.

As for calling back workers to work on oil and gas drilling contracts, that has no part of essential work.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:44:30pm

Harris is my cousin’s Congressman. She and her husband are some of the few sane voices there. It’s a pity because I enjoy Maryland’s Eastern Shore but politically it’s awful.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:44:59pm

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

The right shoe looks like a cowboy boot and the left shoe is a wingtip.

Actually the “cowboy boot” is just motion blur.

Or is it?

I would say motion blur. But come on, brown shoes with a dark suit?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:45:07pm

re: #288 Patricia Kayden

They just don’t care, do they? So why censure Rep Steve King and then hang around with Johnson?

Because they know most people don’t know who he is.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:47:05pm

re: #282 Dr. Matt

From 4 weeks ago, this is one of the GOP hacks Rage Furby is hanging out with….

Harris’ father is from Hungary apparently. I’ve learned a little about Hungarian politics through a friend. Beautiful country but holy shit terrible politicians.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:49:24pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:50:31pm

re: #293 HappyWarrior

Because they know most people don’t know who he is.

I don’t know him either. I see that you state that he’s from my state of Maryland. Shocking, tbh. I hope Democrats run a good candidate against him the next time around.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:51:05pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:51:25pm

re: #288 Patricia Kayden

They just don’t care, do they? So why censure Rep Steve King and then hang around with Johnson?

Rage Furby isn’t that known a quantity. And if you actually tried to describe his exploits to someone who’s never heard of him, they’d think you were reading off a rejected SNL skit script.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:51:27pm

Seriously typical GOP. Fauxrage at King and false dichotomies about Farrakhan but sure CCJ come on over. I hate that shitty party.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:52:10pm

re: #299 Myron Falwell

Rage Furby isn’t that known a quantity. And if you actually tried to describe his exploits to someone who’s never heard of him, they’d think you were reading off a rejected SNL skit script.

That’s true. He’s a more laughable Roger Stone.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:53:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:53:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:53:33pm

re: #296 Patricia Kayden

I don’t know him either. I see that you state that he’s from my state of Maryland. Shocking, tbh. I hope Democrats run a good candidate against him the next time around.

It’s the Eastern Shore. Very conservative there unfortunately. Maybe someone should let Hogan know and he’d support a primary challenger. Hogan has some integrity.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:54:22pm

re: #302 Patricia Kayden

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And the one abstention you ask. Bernie Sanders. Way to go Bernie. Marco Rubio showed more courage than you.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:55:42pm

Is it my monitor, or did the Furby brown-up his formerly red facial and cranial hair?

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:56:45pm

re: #306 wrenchwench

There’s a loaded question.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:57:27pm

re: #306 wrenchwench

Is it my monitor, or did the Furby brown-up his formerly red facial and cranial hair?

I see what you did there

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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:57:51pm

re: #284 Charles Johnson

Look who’s hanging out with Congressmen.

Phil Roe, one of my state’s reps.

*facepalm*

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:58:00pm

re: #305 HappyWarrior

What’s up with Bernie Sanders? This is not the first fishy vote for him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:58:30pm
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:59:08pm

AOC is trolling Mitch big time.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 2:59:40pm

re: #310 Patricia Kayden

What’s up with Bernie Sanders? This is not the first fishy vote for him.

I know others have said similar, but he’s always been acting fishy. Always.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:00:58pm

Quite willing to destroy the country for power and Wingnut Welfare.

(video, twenty-two seconds)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:01:02pm

re: #310 Patricia Kayden

What’s up with Bernie Sanders? This is not the first fishy vote for him.

Read about Tad Davine and Manafort. Something is really fishy about Bernie.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:01:49pm

re: #313 Myron Falwell

I know others have said similar, but he’s always been acting fishy. Always.

He’s very much so on this subject. What I didn’t know is there were clues before hand too.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:02:16pm

re: #314 Anymouse 🌹

Quite willing to destroy the country for power and Wingnut Welfare.

(video, twenty-two seconds)

She’s freaking out because she knows they’re in deep deep trouble and poised to lose outright.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:02:18pm

re: #314 Anymouse 🌹

Quite willing to destroy the country for power and Wingnut Welfare.

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(video, twenty-two seconds)

Ann Coulter should not be advising any President.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:02:43pm

re: #314 Anymouse 🌹

Quite willing to destroy the country for power and Wingnut Welfare.

[Embedded content]

(video, twenty-two seconds)

She looks like she has had some facial surgery or botox. Or maybe just her regular dose of virgin’s blood.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:02:47pm

re: #312 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

AOC is trolling Mitch big time.

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has not been alive long enough to see what conservatives have laid out for decades. The point is the shutdown. They are doing their jobs. They want the government destroyed so they can sell it off for parts.

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mmmirele  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:03:21pm

re: #147 VegasGolfer

Does anybody know a good place to learn Russian? Because it sure seems like this country wants to become like them

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When I was a teenager back in the 1970s, I read several political potboilers by Allen Drury. One of them was how a weak president basically became a thrall of the Soviets, and the book ended with a mashed-up Russian/American flag flying over the Capitol. I’ve thought about that book a lot in the last couple of years, but I can say that Drury had it hella wrong. He thought the destruction was going to come from the “left” (such as it existed in the mid 70s). And, as we know, that’s not the case. But still, hard to shake that out of my head. (The book was “Come Nineveh, Come Tyre” and is only available in Kindle format.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:05:54pm

This is the most soothing thing you will watch all day:

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:06:41pm

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has not been alive long enough to see what conservatives have laid out for decades. The point is the shutdown. They are doing their jobs. They want the government destroyed so they can sell it off for parts.

At the same time, she’s helping perform a hostile takeover of the narrative. It’s now all about owning the optics and the GOP senate is increasingly in a position that’s untenable and unsalable.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:06:41pm

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has not been alive long enough to see what conservatives have laid out for decades. The point is the shutdown. They are doing their jobs. They want the government destroyed so they can sell it off for parts.

The first surprise is usually how damn long everything takes. AOC may or may not know what she’s in for, but I think she has the stamina to succeed in a long battle.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:07:13pm

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has not been alive long enough to see what conservatives have laid out for decades. The point is the shutdown. They are doing their jobs. They want the government destroyed so they can sell it off for parts.

Well she’s pointing out what their jobs are supposed to be and I love the trio of AOC, Katie Hill, & Lauren Underwood. Showing my age here but the four of us would have been at high school at the same time and Lauren and Katie are impressive too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:09:57pm

re: #323 Myron Falwell

At the same time, she’s helping perform a hostile takeover of the narrative. It’s now all about owning the optics and the GOP senate is increasingly in a position that’s untenable and unsalable.

And I think it’s working.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:10:05pm

Good afternoon, just dropping in to mention an incident that CL would have had a great time just freaking shredding those involved. My skills will never be like hers but this guy is a freaking idiot.
Islamophobic man is Islamophobic.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:11:50pm

Christian conservative vultures at it again in this thread:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:11:57pm

re: #327 Unshaken Defiance

Good afternoon, just dropping in to mention an incident that CL would have had a great time just freaking shredding those involved. My skills will never be like hers but this guy is a freaking idiot.
Islamophobic man is Islamophobic.

I wasn’t aware of the alliance between devout Muslims and drug dealers. Now I know better. Rancher is one ignorant dude.

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William Lewis  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:12:31pm

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

Somehow I think she is very aware of the history of the what she is fighting against and would be quite able to express the theory of this class struggle in classic Marxist language. Would that work for you?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:12:32pm

re: #324 wrenchwench

The first surprise is usually how damn long everything takes. AOC may or may not know what she’s in for, but I think she has the stamina to succeed in a long battle.

It’s not even her fight. Pelosi’s doing the dirty work. She couldn’t ask for a better mentor.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:13:26pm

re: #323 Myron Falwell

At the same time, she’s helping perform a hostile takeover of the narrative. It’s now all about owning the optics and the GOP senate is increasingly in a position that’s untenable and unsalable.

Maybe. The narrative for conservatives all my life was to get elected. Their point is to end democracy. Once that happens, the narrative really doesn’t matter.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:13:54pm

re: #330 William Lewis

Somehow I think she is very aware of the history of the what she is fighting against and would be quite able to express the theory of this class struggle in classic Marxist language. Would that work for you?

You don’t get a degree in economics and IR without knowing what the right in this country does.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:14:58pm

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Read about Tad Davine and Manafort. Something is really fishy about Bernie.

I’ve said that for two years now. Fishy doesn’t start to cover it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:15:08pm

re: #332 Anymouse 🌹

Maybe. The narrative for conservatives all my life was to get elected. Their point is to end democracy. Once that happens, the narrative really doesn’t matter.

McConnell is an elected official. Calling him out for not doing his job is fine. No need to nitpick that it’s not really his job. I think Alexandria gets that McConnell is a pawn for powerful interests.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:15:27pm

re: #334 MsJ

I’ve said that for two years now. Fishy doesn’t start to cover it.

I’m agreeing more and more.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:18:00pm

re: #243 Jay C

Actually, the Bonus Marchers were collecting in Washington to [request/demand/push the Government for] early payment on their “bonus” for WWI service, which was not scheduled to be paid until 1945. But since so many of them were broke right then, they didn’t feel like having to wait another twelve-thirteen years.

Here’s a good clip from a documentary that I show my students. Some good film footage from the march.

Bonus Army: US military attacks demonstrating American War Veterans

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:18:07pm

re: #330 William Lewis

Somehow I think she is very aware of the history of the what she is fighting against and would be quite able to express the theory of this class struggle in classic Marxist language. Would that work for you?

I can do without the classic Marxist language, thanks. My question was merely if she understood that the goal of conservatism was power for its own sake, and the answer to that question is probably “yes she knows that.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:19:15pm

re: #337 Teddy’s Person

Here’s a good clip from a documentary that I show my students. Some good film footage from the march.

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I didn’t know you taught. Thanks for teaching that and being a teacher.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 16, 2019 • 3:28:52pm

re: #339 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know you taught. Thanks for teaching that and being a teacher.

Yep, teach history at a community college, although most of my students are high schoolers taking classes for college credit.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 16, 2019 • 4:26:50pm

re: #212 Hecuba’s daughter

Ooops! Caucus with Democrats though. For the past 2 years I have said that Putin owned 3 candidates with Presidential ambitions: Trump, Jill, Bernie. And nothing has happened to challenge this assertion.

I definitely figured tRump and Jill. And as I have said before, I had my suspicions about Bernie.


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