KNOWER With the WDR BIG BAND: “One Hope”

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“One Hope” (composed by Genevieve Artadi and Louis Cole) is the next tune in the video series featuring the independent electronic music duo “KNOWER”. Louis Cole himself wrote a fancy arrangement for the WDR BIG BAND, featuring Johan Hörlén on alto saxophone. Principle conductor Bob Mintzer conducts the WDR BIG BAND.

This video was produced at the rehearsal in May 2019 at the WDR Funkhaus Studio 4 in Cologne, Germany.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:36:35am

Am I crazy or is this the first day this week the big news is not today’s news? (So far, it’s early)

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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:37:09am

I’ve been crushing on Knower for a while now. Mad talent and a little pranky/zany. Artadi sings like an angel and I love Cole’s drumming style.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:39:13am

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

It’s only 1:35 CST. Give it a few minutes.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:43:22am

Interesting observation.
Most of you know I’m in the Hospital. These people have been wonderful in so many ways. The only bad thing is to no one’s surprise, is the food.

I got MSNBC on the tube.

One of the aids confided with me that in the years since we got into this mess. Patients have become surly and just plain mean.

She’s pretty close to my age. And we discussed a bit further. It’s gotten so bad the a lot of nurses and techs have committed suicide. The numbers are going up.

Just an observation

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:44:30am

re: #4 Dave In Austin

Trump’s America.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:46:56am

re: #4 Dave In Austin

Interesting observation.
Most of you know I’m in the Hospital. These people have been wonderful in so many ways. The only bad thing is to no one’s surprise, is the food.

I got MSNBC on the tube.

One of the aids confided with me that in the years since we got into this mess. Patients have become surly and just plain mean.

She’s pretty close to my age. And we discussed a bit further. It’s gotten so bad the a lot of nurses and techs have committed suicide. The numbers are going up.

Just an observation

Dave, In my 41 years working at Social Security I can confirm that an increasing number of callers have become meaner and profane on the phone. Even when you tell them that they are being recorded they continue their nasty shit.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:47:13am

re: #4 Dave In Austin

I deal with the public every day and I too have noticed that many people are nastier than before.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:47:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:48:17am
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:50:06am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

And all this time I was told that the Democrats were the supporters of terrorism.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:51:32am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:53:03am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:53:23am

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

I find the guy in the background amusing.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:54:03am

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

AWOMAN!

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:54:56am

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

Which one? I fins two that are amusing. The one on the left doesn’t give a fuck, and the one in the center looks like he’s trying to drown out all the praying.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:55:11am
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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:55:36am
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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:56:11am

Interesting to ask what ‘traditional values’ means.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:56:57am

re: #15 Ace Rothstein

I was referring to the one in the center.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:57:05am

re: #18 BigPapa

Interesting to ask what ‘traditional values’ means.

White American Jesus.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:57:15am
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b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:57:39am

re: #18 BigPapa

Interesting to ask what ‘traditional values’ means.

No wimmens can show their ankles or be seen in billiard halls

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b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)  Oct 12, 2019 • 11:58:36am

re: #18 BigPapa

Interesting to ask what ‘traditional values’ means.

Pretty similar to the current Taliban values

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b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:01:00pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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F*ck off Rubio!

QUIT MAKING FUN OF THE HATEFUL, BIGOTED & IGNORANT. THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM! THEY’D KILL YOU IF THEY HAD A CHANCE AND I MAKE MY LIVING OFF OF THEM!

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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:02:39pm

Traditional values: wimmens make da babies and clean up; no queer folks; don’t let them coloreds get too uppity.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:03:09pm

Re: Cheeto’s promise to put a man on the Moon.
As I have long suggested, Cheeto may be about to “acknowledge” that the original Moon landings were a liberal-orchestrated hoax and he, the Chosen One, is ready to go ahead with the real thing. This will appeal to a large part of his base, as will an executive order to halt chemtrail spraying and an acknowledgement of the capture of aliens and their spacecraft at Roswell in 1947. His failure to produce the aliens could be explained away as the result of a magical self- destruct device. The base would swallow it hook, line and sinker.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:05:44pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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What is that fake pious wanker whining about? Sorry Marco, it’s not elitism to believe people who pick on lgbt people are assholes.

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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:06:03pm

It’s getting horrible for the Kurds. Not going to link but video of alleged executions circulating.

My hate and rage of all things Banana Trumplican burns ever hotter.

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:06:33pm

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

All that and the eve of the election, he legalizes pot with an executive order. Game over. King of America forever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:07:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:07:34pm

re: #25 BigPapa

Traditional values: wimmens make da babies and clean up; no queer folks; don’t let them coloreds get too uppity.

Pretty much. You believe homosexuality is sinful. Fine. People believe that interracial marriage is too. Why should your homophobia get a pass because it’s biblically justified.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:09:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:10:26pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s got a bad 80’s action movie’s understanding of what the military does.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:11:50pm
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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:11:53pm

If you believe homosexuality is sinful, keep it to yourself. You belong in the closet, worried about being ostracized by society, fearful of being who you really are.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:13:32pm

re: #35 BigPapa

If you believe homosexuality is sinful, keep it to yourself. You belong in the closet, worried about being ostracized by society, fearful of being who you really are.

Marco is a very confused guy. He actually thinks he’s presidential.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:14:01pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

Israel has a very interesting feed/thread.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:14:37pm

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:14:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:15:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:15:54pm

A lot of homophobia boils down to people who aren’t comfortable with people comfortable with their sexuality. I still remember the Million Moms complaining that Ellen was too happy and well adjusted. They really didn’t like that she proved everything wrong about their stereotypes of lgbt people as maladjusted and mentally ill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:16:13pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:19:43pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:21:11pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Pretty much. You believe homosexuality is sinful. Fine. People believe that interracial marriage is too. Why should your homophobia get a pass because it’s biblically justified.

And see, this is what burns me. Biblically justified or not, keep that shit to yourself. You don’t win any favors with people by calling them sinners and condemning them to hell. That shit never works. EVER. Show love to people and let them figure out their own path; Jesus never forced anybody to follow Him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:22:12pm
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NetworkKed  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:22:16pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

I live in Indiana. I am genuinely scared for the writer and publisher of that story.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:24:09pm

re: #46 NetworkKed

I live in Indiana. I am genuinely scared for the writer and publisher of that story.

You’re not wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:25:40pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:26:10pm

re: #46 NetworkKed

I live in Indiana. I am genuinely scared for the writer and publisher of that story.

Remember when Grandma Bacon told me of how the KKK ran Indiana back in the 1920s.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:30:49pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oy Vey. Forcing religion down people’s throats. DT’s people are very dangerous to the nation as a whole.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:31:53pm

re: #49 Joe Bacon 🌹

Remember when Grandma Bacon told me of how the KKK ran Indiana back in the 1920s.

They still carried out public lynching as late as, if I recall correctly, the 1950’s.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:32:25pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:33:17pm

Trump won’t cancel the 2020 election because that would deny him his opportunity to win it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:33:51pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump won’t cancel the 2020 election because that would deny him his opportunity to win it.

Yeah I think he’s too proud to try to cancel it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:34:52pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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I’m sick of hearing about morality from people who separate families at the border and traumatize kids.

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b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:37:02pm

ya think?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:37:27pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

I’m sick of hearing about morality from people who separate families at the border and traumatize kids.

See, I don’t get it. The Kingdom of God is supposed to be for everybody. So why in the hell do people think it’s okay to hate others and mistreat them?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:39:29pm

re: #57 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

See, I don’t get it. The Kingdom of God is supposed to be for everybody. So why in the hell do people think it’s okay to hate others and mistreat them?

Because they’re xenophobic assholes first. It doesn’t matter that Hispanics are predominantly Christian. It doesn’t matter that there are lgbt people who have children like my cousin.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:39:39pm

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:39:58pm

re: #46 NetworkKed

I live in Indiana. I am genuinely scared for the writer and publisher of that story.

It’s the Chicago Sun-Times, and someone going after the author would have to find Illinois first.

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NetworkKed  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:41:16pm

re: #49 Joe Bacon 🌹

Remember when Grandma Bacon told me of how the KKK ran Indiana back in the 1920s.

My high school social studies teacher - a very… odd catholic hippie that I don’t think was a very good classroom teacher but was smarter than most of the rest of the school put together - went out of her way to inform us that Indiana was the only state where the Klan was actually, officially incorporated.

I never verified that, and to be fair most hoosiers in my region tend to be more private about their racism, but it sounds about right.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:41:32pm

re: #56 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

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ya think?

The problem might be that they just can’t walk on the talk show set and state their case. I believe they have to be invited before showing up. Why aren’t they getting more invites?

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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:42:04pm

The right has to create a conspiracy of nefarious forces trying to oppress them: liberals taking over government, media, education systems, etc.

They cannot fathom that when people are educated and are of their own free will they reject this cultish ideology. In the marketplace of ideas people are not buying it. So you need to scare a bunch of people to get them to buy what you’re selling.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:43:47pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Because they’re xenophobic assholes first. It doesn’t matter that Hispanics are predominantly Christian. It doesn’t matter that there are lgbt people who have children like my cousin.

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b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:43:55pm

re: #62 Eventual Carrion

The problem might be that they just can’t walk on the talk show set and state their case. I believe they have to be invited before showing up. Why aren’t they getting more invites?

of course but those shows are CONSTANTLY looking for guests, republicans always say yes that’s why they are all over the place.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:51:32pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Thanks. There are two ways to look at this, but the fact is they know they’re going to lose power unless they destroy everything. We can keep that from happening if we don’t give up.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:53:40pm
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sagehen  Oct 12, 2019 • 12:55:18pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump won’t cancel the 2020 election because that would deny him his opportunity to win it.

And it would be totally none of his doing if his Oathkeepers and III%ers do a series of drive-by at selected Democratic-leaning precincts where long lines of voters are patiently waiting their turn.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:00:11pm

re: #68 sagehen

And it would be totally none of his doing if his Oathkeepers and III%ers do a series of drive-by at selected Democratic-leaning precincts where long lines of voters are patiently waiting their turn.

Don’t give them any ideas.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:04:09pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:05:16pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

Projection. That’s the name of the Republican game. Just sayin’.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:08:57pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:11:03pm

The hate-right in the UK that championed Brexit are cut from the same mold as our own addled violent right:

Brexiters’ adoption of war language will stop Britain from finding peace

Tories have legitimised a far-right worldview and unleashed forces they cannot control.

[…]

The language of war has been the language of Brexit. The right raids the dressing-up box for Battle of Britain uniforms. The prime minister damns half the population as quislings advocating betrayal and surrender. Dominic Cummings’s hero Bismarck fought three wars to unify Germany. Cummings talks as if he’s ready to unleash one to break up Britain. Paranoid fear of enemies within, once confined to the rightwing press and far-right politics, now defines British conservatism.

[…]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:12:31pm

moron is back from the golf course

looks like Lindsey is ok:

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:15:40pm

re: #61 NetworkKed

My high school social studies teacher - a very… odd catholic hippie that I don’t think was a very good classroom teacher but was smarter than most of the rest of the school put together - went out of her way to inform us that Indiana was the only state where the Klan was actually, officially incorporated.

I never verified that, and to be fair most hoosiers in my region tend to be more private about their racism, but it sounds about right.

It is right. The national headquarters were there. They recorded Klan records in a Richmond studio.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:15:50pm
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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:16:13pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jim Wallis.

sojo.net

He’s been “fighting the good fight”, as the saying goes, a long time.

For example, Who Bears the Image of God?

Who bears the image of God? According to Genesis 1:26-27, each and every human being does.

“Then God said, ‘Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion [i.e., stewardship] over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.’ So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.”

The foundation of all human rights, equality, and dignity is all of us being created in the image of God — imago Dei. Seeing all people, no matter their race or ethnicity, gender, who they are, how they worship, or who they love, as full image-bearers of God undermines any human attempt to build barriers or divisions between groups.

This issue, about the image of God, is so morally foundational to everything we say and do in both our personal lives and in our politics that it must be raised again and again to remember and remind others what is at stake when we see God’s image being denigrated, devalued, or discarded. This has sadly become routine in American politics, with fresh examples in the news every single day.

The deliberately racialized dehumanization of indigenous people for their land, and of stolen Africans to justify our greed in slavery, was America’s original sin. Any form of racial discrimination based on that original dehumanization — in policing and incarceration, voting rights, education, economics, housing, the despoiling of land, and more — further perpetuates that sin. It is not just partisan politics for a party to deliberately and systematically seek to suppress minority votes; every vote suppressed is an assault on the image of God.

Emphasis in the original.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:17:24pm
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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:17:36pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:18:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:19:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:19:53pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is what refugees do. They embrace their adoptive lands as their own.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:21:01pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:21:43pm

re: #77 William Lewis

Jim Wallis justified voting for Trump if you oppose abortion.

Refuse to read anything he posts.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:22:18pm

re: #84 Joe Bacon 🌹

Jim Wallis justified voting for Trump if you oppose abortion.

Refuse to read anything he posts.

Where and when?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:23:25pm

re: #85 William Lewis

Where and when?

Daily Kos documented that during the 2016 campaign.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:28:16pm
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Teddy's Person  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:31:08pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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This is what my mom did in the early stages of dementia. We’d be talking on the phone relatively normally (there were a couple of topics she could follow pretty well - hearing about Teddy was her favorite), and all of the sudden, she’d hand the phone to my dad when the phone call became too much or too confusing for her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:31:25pm

re: #85 William Lewis

Where and when?

Maybe his thinking has evolved:

The state-level attempted challenges to Roe v. Wade focus solely on the unborn child. To be truly pro-life, policymakers must expand their concern to the mother — supporting and empowering her to have access to the resources and services she needs to make the appropriate choices for herself — choices that in many cases could lead to a dramatic reduction in abortions. In practice, this would look like: affordable health care and child care, access to affordable and nutritious food, affordable housing, good paying jobs, access to quality education, and, when needed, critical social safety net programs.

Is Common Ground on Abortion Possible?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:31:55pm

re: #87 Dread Pirate

All well and good for them doing the right thing. But this just gives Russia and China another client. Well. An existing client with more $ to re-direct.

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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:36:57pm

re: #79 BigPapa

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:37:08pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:38:21pm

How to ensure your child will need years of therapy.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:39:15pm

re: #93 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I rather order a turducken.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:42:14pm

again with the “chocked”

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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:43:52pm

re: #93 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I laughed vigorously and in an unhealthy way. Good thing I’m not a parent because I would do that to my kids.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:44:09pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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again with the “chocked”

He’s such a hypocrite.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:45:31pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:47:59pm

The use of celebrity fame to push social agendas is hardly new and not unexpected, as celebrity and politics are cut from the same cloth.

Kim Kardashian, in case you missed it, was in the news this week for taking the kids to Armenia to be baptized (her and Kanye continue to work the religious marks like their buddy Trump.) But the real story is she is trying to move some of her company’s production to Armenia and met with leaders there hoping for some grift.

But as much as she wants to paint Armenia a certain way, there are problems Armenia has with its neighbors and minorities that are real, and shouldn’t be white-washed.

Notice this:

Heads of religious confessions in Azerbaijan issue joint statement on Armenia’s vandal policy against Govharagha mosque in Shusha

Heads of religious confessions in Azerbaijan, including Chairman of the Caucasus Muslims Office Sheikhulislam Allahshukur Pashazade, Archbishop of Baku and Azerbaijan Eparchy Alexander, Head of the Religious Community of Mountain Jews Melih Yevdayev, and Chairman of the Alban-Udi Christian Community Robert Mobili have made a joint statement on aggressor Armenia’s attempt to hide the policy of vandalism against the Govharagha Mosque in the Azerbaijani city of Shusha.

I wonder if anyone will ask Kim Kardashian bout what is happening in Shusha? Anyone?

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garzooma  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:55:07pm

re: #99 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The use of celebrity fame to push social agendas is hardly new and not unexpected, as celebrity and politics are cut from the same cloth.

Kim Kardashian, in case you missed it, was in the news this week for taking the kids to Armenia to be baptized (her and Kanye continue to work the religious marks like their buddy Trump.) But the real story is she is trying to move some of her company’s production to Armenia and med with leaders there hoping for some grift.

But as much as she wants to paint Armenia a certain way, there are problems Armenia has with its neighbors and minorities that are real, and shouldn’t be white-washed.

Notice this:

Heads of religious confessions in Azerbaijan issue joint statement on Armenia’s vandal policy against Govharagha mosque in Shusha

I wonder if anyone will ask Kim Kardashian bout what is happening in Shusha? Anyone?

Wikipedia says the mosque is being restored:

After capture of Shusha by Karabakhi-Armenian forces, the mosque stopped functioning.[6] Following a minor restoration of the mosque in 2008-2009, fixing the roof,[7] officials from Nagorno-Karabakh Ministry of Economy ordered a restoration project, hiring Iranian experts to carry out the restoration works.[8] Azerbaijani officials expressed their unhappiness with the restoration project, with the Deputy Chairman of the State Committee for Work with Religious Organizations Gunduz Ismayilov claiming that “Armenia’s intention to restore the historical Azerbaijani mosque in Shusha is an attempt to cover up the vandalism it did to Azerbaijani cultural-religious monuments in the occupied territories”.[9]

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:55:54pm

How laughable are these people?

Turkey pushes deeper into Syria as U.S. draws red lines

“If Turkey acts in a way that is disproportionate, inhumane, or otherwise goes beyond the lines the President has, in his own mind, the United States is willing to impose significant cost,” said a senior State Department official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

What is in Trump’s mind, but teenage girls and golf?

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Dread Pirate  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:56:08pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2019 • 1:57:01pm

re: #100 garzooma

Wikipedia says the mosque is being restored:

That is the problem. Armenia first off shouldn’t have destroyed it, but the objections now being raised is that Armenia is remaking it as they see fit and rewriting the history.

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garzooma  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:04:44pm

re: #103 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Armenia first off shouldn’t have destroyed it

You have a source for that? There’s a picture of the mosque in 2010 on the Wikipedia page, and it doesn’t look destroyed.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:10:22pm

re: #104 garzooma

You have a source for that? There’s a picture of the mosque in 2010 on the Wikipedia page, and it doesn’t look destroyed.

I suppose “destroyed” was too strong a word by me. I’m sure their believers feel it was damaged in a fundamental way. Since I am hardly a believer in any of those religions it’s not for me to assess the inner feelings of why one group feels so strongly about their holy places being defiled by another group.

As an outsider, all I know is one group feels it has been deeply wronged by another group.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:12:05pm
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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:14:41pm

re: #106 Dave In Austin

Run dammit! I’m a HAWK! FEAR ME!

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:14:54pm

re: #101 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

How laughable are these people?

Turkey pushes deeper into Syria as U.S. draws red lines

What is in Trump’s mind, but teenage girls and golf?

Faux Noise and Twitter.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:17:56pm
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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:21:06pm

Just discovered Hiromu Uehara. Holy shit.

Hiromi The Trio Project - Dreamer (Montreux Jazz 2014)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:26:05pm

re: #106 Dave In Austin

I’m cracking up
“WTF is this shit???… Am I…Am I on ‘Punked’?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:28:16pm

re: #98 Dave In Austin

For a long time I believed Scott Ritter was a good guy because he objected to our policy in Iraq and challenged the prevailing notion that Hussein had WMD. But it certainly appears my admiration for his vocal displeasure with our policies was misplaced. His personal life is clearly appalling — and the fact that he supported Bernie in 2016 and now supports Tulsi suggests that his political viewpoints are equally appalling

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:34:12pm

re: #112 Hecuba’s daughter

For a long time I believed Scott Ritter was a good guy because he objected to our policy in Iraq and challenged the prevailing notion that Hussein had WMD. But it certainly appears my admiration for his vocal displeasure with our policies was misplaced. His personal life is clearly appalling — and the fact that he supported Bernie in 2016 and now supports Tulsi suggests that his political viewpoints are equally appalling

I did much the same thing with Glenn Greenwald, because I first became aware of him in the W Bush years. Any opposition to W Bush was most welcome, but since then Greenwald has been a total asshole. Therefore Greenwald always was an asshole, and had asshole reasons of his own for opposing W Bush.

The enemy of my enemy is just that. No more and no less, and certainly not a friend.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:38:15pm

re: #112 Hecuba’s daughter

For a long time I believed Scott Ritter was a good guy because he objected to our policy in Iraq and challenged the prevailing notion that Hussein had WMD. But it certainly appears my admiration for his vocal displeasure with our policies was misplaced. His personal life is clearly appalling — and the fact that he supported Bernie in 2016 and now supports Tulsi suggests that his political viewpoints are equally appalling

I remember that as well. I actually knew his co-writer on the book they did on Iraq in my Democratic Underground days. The problem is yeah a lot of people who were right on Iraq and the Bush FP aren’t necessary good people or have sound judgment on other issues. I’ll never regret opposing Iraq but opposing Iraq doesn’t mean you have the answers.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:41:21pm

re: #113 EPR-radar

I did much the same thing with Glenn Greenwald, because I first became aware of him in the W Bush years. Any opposition to W Bush was most welcome, but since then Greenwald has been a total asshole. Therefore Greenwald always was an asshole, and had asshole reasons of his own for opposing W Bush.

The enemy of my enemy is just that. No more and no less, and certainly not a friend.

Taibbi is someone I liked reading in the Bush years. Good criticism of their FP and he reported well on the Financial Crisis but he’s a shit person and he hates the FP establishment to the point he takes Trump and Putin’s side in geopolitics. My opposition to Iraq was the same as why I now oppose abandoning the Kurds. I feel we create new enemies without thinking policy. I’m more dovish than I am not but I’m fundamentally an internationalist who feels the US being engaged with the world is good.

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:54:16pm

Friend captured this video of my favorite new special shape:

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2019 • 2:58:56pm

My question: Why does Andrew Sullivan hate Malcolm Nance? A few months ago they were both panelists on some show (do not recall which but probably on MSNBC) and Sullivan had a meltdown attacking Nance. (My memory has never been the best and cannot recall the topic under discussion)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:16:05pm

Malcolm Nance is someone who I would follow into battle

No questions

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:17:16pm

I had to laugh at this. Over the last year that we’ve had our rescue, she’s gone from nervously jumping up and barking whenever anyone comes in to now tepidly barking when sons and wife come home, and not barking at all when I come home but sort of sitting up and giving me the “well, where have you been, belly-rubbing man?” look.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:19:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:19:38pm

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:26:49pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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so full of shit he is

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:28:17pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

The master of BS. /half

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b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:30:02pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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If the Turks kill all the Kurds then I guess the war ends?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:31:41pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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So after we can just call them The Wars?

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Dread Pirate  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:34:35pm
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ckkatz  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:39:19pm

re: #124 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

If the Turks kill all the Kurds then I guess the war ends?

The Turkish objective, from what I understand is:

1. To clear the Kurds from the Syrian border.
2. To isolate the Turkish Kurds from the well armed and organized Syrian Kurds.
3. To depopulate a swath of at least 30 km in depth of the 1-2 million Kurds who live in the region.
4. To then resettle the 3-4 million Syrian refugees currently in Turkey in the now depopulated region.
5. To give the authoritarian Erdogan a political win, because his popularity has been flagging in the past few years.

The latter is particularly dangerous because Erdogan may overextend Turkey or mix it into a bigger mess. (See Saudi and MBS in Yemen, for example.)

In the meantime thousands of innocents will be killed and hundreds of thousands or millions more lives ruined. Not to mention the political damage to the United States.

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:40:12pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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New Yorkers knew that his mayoral decision-making killed a bunch of the 9/11 firefighters; there were problems with the radios (police/FDNY incompatibility) that he’d been promising for years to fix; if the replacements had been in use on the day, an evacuation could have been called in time for a lot of them to have gotten out in time.

Also… it was his idea, against EVERYBODY’s advice, to put his command center in the towers. That’s why he was running around in the streets trying to coordinate on a cell phone (after the antennas went down).

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:42:16pm

re: #128 sagehen

New Yorkers knew that his mayoral decision-making killed a bunch of the 9/11 firefighters; there were problems with the radios (police/FDNY incompatibility) that he’d been promising for years to fix; if the replacements had been in use on the day, an evacuation could have been called in time for a lot of them to have gotten out in time.

Also… it was his idea, against EVERYBODY’s advice, to put his command center in the towers. That’s why he was running around in the streets trying to coordinate on a cell phone (after the antennas went down).

Like, look… I know the Towers provided the best communication, but even despite not believing they were going to collapse, putting your command center IN the buildings that were just attacked seems like a dumb idea.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:42:27pm

re: #126 Dread Pirate

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“Ahh, but the Biden’s that’s… that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with… geometric logic… that a duplicate key to the missing email server DID exist …”

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b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)  Oct 12, 2019 • 3:58:01pm

re: #127 ckkatz

The Turkish objective, from what I understand is:

1. To clear the Kurds from the Syrian border.
2. To isolate the Turkish Kurds from the well armed and organized Syrian Kurds.
3. To depopulate a swath of at least 30 km in depth of the 1-2 million Kurds who live in the region.
4. To then resettle the 3-4 million Syrian refugees currently in Turkey in the now depopulated region.
5. To give the authoritarian Erdogan a political win, because his popularity has been flagging in the past few years.

The latter is particularly dangerous because Erdogan may overextend Turkey or mix it into a bigger mess. (See Saudi and MBS in Yemen, for example.)

In the meantime thousands of innocents will be killed and hundreds of thousands or millions more lives ruined. Not to mention the political damage to the United States.

thanks for this

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:00:34pm

re: #131 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

Where is Assad on all this? It’s one thing I haven’t heard.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:05:10pm

When it rains it pours

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:06:15pm

re: #117 Hecuba’s daughter

My question: Why does Andrew Sullivan hate Malcolm Nance? A few months ago they were both panelists on some show (do not recall which but probably on MSNBC) and Sullivan had a meltdown attacking Nance. (My memory has never been the best and cannot recall the topic under discussion)

Andrew Sullivan has always been a proponent of The Bell Curve which he pushed when he ran The New Republican into the ground.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:08:44pm

re: #134 Joe Bacon 🌹

Andrew Sullivan has always been a proponent of The Bell Curve which he pushed when he ran The New Republican into the ground.

Yep — but the animosity seems to be of a more personal nature. OTOH he hates Hillary beyond comprehension and is clearly a misogynist. So maybe racism accounts for his behavior (though he was a strong supported of Obama).

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:09:51pm

re: #128 sagehen

New Yorkers knew that his mayoral decision-making killed a bunch of the 9/11 firefighters; there were problems with the radios (police/FDNY incompatibility) that he’d been promising for years to fix; if the replacements had been in use on the day, an evacuation could have been called in time for a lot of them to have gotten out in time.

Also… it was his idea, against EVERYBODY’s advice, to put his command center in the towers. That’s why he was running around in the streets trying to coordinate on a cell phone (after the antennas went down).

I remember hearing that the command center was located so that he had a convenient hideaway to go boff women.

I remember the radio problems too every time I think of Rudy and 9/11.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:09:53pm

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep — but the animosity seems to be of a more personal nature. OTOH he hates Hillary beyond comprehension and is clearly a misogynist. So maybe racism accounts for his behavior (though he was a strong supported of Obama).

Yes that’s the part that doesn’t fit. Sullivan really supported Obama…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:09:58pm

re: #132 Dave In Austin

Where is Assad on all this? It’s one thing I haven’t heard.

Sitting on top of the world as it all falls into place for him

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Dread Pirate  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:11:32pm

Meanwhile in Canada

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:11:32pm

re: #124 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

If the Turks kill all the Kurds then I guess the war ends?

They made a desert and called it peace. Our national shame.

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:14:39pm

re: #140 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Suddenly I feel like throwing up. Fuck us.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:15:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:15:47pm

re: #139 Dread Pirate

Meanwhile in Canada

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that last photo: slam the door BEFORE you go outside.

Just a suggestion.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:22:10pm

re: #140 NO SMOCKING GUN!

They made a desert and called it peace. Our national shame.

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Her blood is on Trump’s hands.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:22:45pm

re: #140 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That needs to be a charge on his impeachment. Accessory to war crimes. Treason (aide and comfort to an enemy of the US in time of war). Fucking scum bag needs to have it thrown in his face along with billboards with the photos of dead toddlers in Syria saying
TRUMP’S GENOCIDE on top GOP GENOCIDE on the bottom.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:29:46pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

that last photo: slam the door BEFORE you go outside.

Just a suggestion.

I have personal knowledge of this sort of situation.

It will not end well if one does not heed my suggestion.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:34:36pm

re: #137 Joe Bacon 🌹

Maybe he supported President Obama because he hated Palin — he was obsessed with documenting her lies and claiming that her baby wasn’t really hers. 🤷‍♀️

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:38:50pm

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

Maybe he supported President Obama because he hated Palin — he was obsessed with documenting her lies and claiming that her baby wasn’t really hers. 🤷‍♀️

sully always reacts badly to any hint of criticism

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:39:01pm

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

Maybe he supported President Obama because he hated Palin — he was obsessed with documenting her lies and claiming that her baby wasn’t really hers. 🤷‍♀️

I think so. The Trig isn’t Sarah’s was crap. Fuck Sarah Palin but Sully acted like a douche bag on that.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:39:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:39:38pm
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sagehen  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:42:15pm

re: #117 Hecuba’s daughter

My question: Why does Andrew Sullivan hate Malcolm Nance? A few months ago they were both panelists on some show (do not recall which but probably on MSNBC) and Sullivan had a meltdown attacking Nance. (My memory has never been the best and cannot recall the topic under discussion)

Andrew Sullivan has always been a far-right, racist, misogynist Movement Conservative. But like all “conservatives”, when it gets personal…

Bush and his Christian backers had as part of their immigration policy that HIV-positive people should be stopped at the border and sent back. If they were already here legally when they were diagnosed, they wouldn’t be able to travel overseas because they wouldn’t be able to come back. And they weren’t eligible for citizenship.

Obama promised to change that policy.

That’s why he liked Obama. As soon as he got his citizenship and could move freely… he went right back to being his old far-right self. (also, he’s college pals with Boris Johnson).

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:43:34pm

re: #150 Patricia Kayden

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He’s a white cop. He’ll say he was scared and walk without charges. < spit >

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gwangung  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:43:53pm

re: #150 Patricia Kayden

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Naw. The asshole’s gonna walk…and they’ll say they followed their training perfectly.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:47:22pm

re: #152 sagehen

Okay. That makes sense. I used to enjoy his posts but stopped reading it after he had a meltdown during President Obama’s first debate with Romney. He called Obama lazy which I didn’t appreciate. Given his support of The Bell Curve nonsense, I shouldn’t have started reading him on the first place but I appreciated his strong Obama support.

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b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:48:46pm

shocked!

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:49:31pm

re: #153 William Lewis

re: #154 gwangung

Sigh. This just keeps happening. I completely understand that police officers are scared but they really need to learn to shoot to disarm versus shoot to kill. Unless someone is armed, you don’t get to shoot then down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:51:08pm
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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:53:24pm

re: #157 Patricia Kayden

Sigh. This just keeps happening. I completely understand that police officers are scared but they really need to learn to shoot to disarm versus shoot to kill. Unless someone is armed, you don’t get to shoot then down.

They. Don’t. Care.
Being able to kill is the point.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:57:32pm

Thread

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2019 • 4:59:03pm

re: #160 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hmm. I think in the near future I will be saying I majored in Liberal Arts instead of English.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:00:05pm

re: #159 William Lewis

They. Don’t. Care.
Being able to kill is the point.

I’d say that’s a big factor in it. Before legal precedent was set in the 80s that a cop only needs to testify that he personally believed his life was in danger in order to justify a lethal response, cops could be held liable more easily for any deaths they caused in the line of duty. But with that precedent and the toxic stew that bubbled up from the same time period that cops were losing the “War on Crime” leading to the glorification of the Harry Callahan/John McClane stereotype of the “cowboy cop” who needed to be ready to shoot to kill as part of their everyday job…well, we’re not really seeing anything new so much as getting a new look at something that already existed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:03:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:10:23pm

he is nutz

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Interesting Times  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:12:14pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:14:38pm

re: #160 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yet as some in the comments point out, a Black woman was removed because of her leggings and other passengers have been forced to wear their t-shirts inside out because of controversial wording.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:17:28pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

he is nutz

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Yawn

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:18:17pm

re: #166 Patricia Kayden

Yet as some in the comments point out, a Black woman was removed because of her leggings and other passengers have been forced to wear their t-shirts inside out because of controversial wording.

I remember when conservative America was triggered by Fuck the police.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:21:55pm

meanwhile in Canada

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:27:28pm

re: #165 Interesting Times

Wow, an actual, open Republican dick-head. As with so many things, they aren’t even trying to hide it anymore.

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:28:54pm

re: #165 Interesting Times

It’s something that her 12 year old told her looks really cool. It’s great. You need to wear it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:31:30pm

tonight in Cincinnati:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:32:48pm

Well, this didn’t take long:

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:33:37pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone should bring one of those to Pompeo’s next press conference.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:35:27pm

Evolution is happening in real time right before our very eyes.

You may kill a few of them, but they will rule the earth long after we are gone.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:37:43pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:49:34pm

re: #176 Belafon

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Yeah, let me put on my shocked face:

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:52:02pm

re: #175 The Pie Overlord!

Evolution is happening in real time right before our very eyes.

You may kill a few of them, but they will rule the earth long after we are gone.

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Do they have fins and scales? Wonder what they taste like…

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:54:49pm

Honestly, I don’t think anybody with an IQ above room temp was fooled by the name slapped on the bottom of that damned letter. It was a long, pointless, and utterly ridiculous screed that didn’t show up in a series of tweets only because Trump has failed to demonstrate an ability to thread longer than two tweets together. A word salad so chock full of talking points that any lawyer other than Orly Tait who actually believed it would be taken seriously should save time and disbar themselves.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:57:02pm

re: #178 sagehen

Do they have fins and scales? Wonder what they taste like…

Apparently people do eat them. Never had one myself.

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DangerMan  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:57:05pm

birthday card from my sis

it was right side up when I uploaded it

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2019 • 5:59:11pm

re: #181 DangerMan

Even sideways it is still funny. :)

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:00:35pm

re: #175 The Pie Overlord!

Evolution is happening in real time right before our very eyes.

You may kill a few of them, but they will rule the earth long after we are gone.

By next week, they’ll be walking.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:00:58pm

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:01:45pm

re: #165 Interesting Times

An elephant trunk?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:04:26pm

re: #170 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Not recent - that’s actually from the 2016 election, but still highly symbolic.

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ckkatz  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:05:40pm

re: #178 sagehen

Do they have fins and scales? Wonder what they taste like…

Snakehead is reportedly excellent eating. And that is apparently why some idiot originally released them into the Potomac River Basin.

The Washington Post even did a taste test some years back:

Snakehead taste test — can a fish this ugly really taste that good?
washingtonpost.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:06:24pm

Just so you know what has triggered Lil’ Marco

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:06:42pm

Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

washingtonpost.com

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:08:02pm

re: #187 ckkatz

Snakehead is reportedly excellent eating. And that is apparently why some idiot originally released them into the Potomac River Basin.

The Washington Post even did a taste test some years back:

Snakehead taste test — can a fish this ugly really taste that good?
washingtonpost.com

They’re in the Delaware River basin as well and I came across a sign for a Snakehead catching contest one day at the Tinicum NWR in Philly since they’re in the pond and creek there. Have a photo of one around somewhere as well.

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:09:03pm

Physically ill over the things tRump continues to do to our country.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:09:21pm

The rats are slowly moving towards the lifeboats.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:10:20pm

re: #189 Sir John Barron

Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

washingtonpost.com

Just say ‘No pro quid, I mean no quid Pro. NO PRO QUID! WITCH HUNT!

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:10:40pm

Yowza.

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ckkatz  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:12:44pm

re: #190 Feline Fearless Leader

They’re in the Delaware River basin as well and I came across a sign for a Snakehead catching contest one day at the Tinicum NWR in Philly since they’re in the pond and creek there. Have a photo of one around somewhere as well.

I had not known about them being in the Delaware River Basin. I wonder how far up the river they are these days.

I suspect that they are considered a non-eradicable invasive species. Like the silver carp in the upper Mississippi River. Or the walking catfish in Florida.

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:15:20pm

re: #194 plansbandc

Yowza.

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when they shed their skin, isn’t it because they’ve outgrown it? So now it’s bigger than that.

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garzooma  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:16:10pm

re: #189 Sir John Barron

Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

washingtonpost.com

Very misleading headline. As noted above, Sondland is only testifying that Trump told him that:

The U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, intends to tell Congress this week that the content of a text message he wrote denying a quid pro quo with Ukraine was relayed to him directly by President Trump in a phone call, according to a person familiar with his testimony.

Sondland plans to tell lawmakers he has no knowledge of whether the president was telling him the truth at that moment. “It’s only true that the president said it, not that it was the truth,” said the person familiar with Sondland’s planned testimony, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic matters.

This is like the opposite of what the headline says.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:20:21pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:21:15pm

Yavanovich openly defying Pompeo’s orders opened up the final floodgate. I think Sondland realizes that Taylor’s testimony is going to be devastating, and that as Acting Ambassador to Ukraine Taylor will have more text messages and evidence that Volker, as an unpaid envoy, never had access to.

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Mescalero09  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:21:22pm

Well I guess allowing your allies to be slaughtered, make a mockery of justice and line your mob pockets is ok.
Along with a president that incites violence and bigotry. And lied. And lies.
But don’t call them whores.
That’s too close to home. Fuck it.
I guess I’m a bad man.
I’m out for the night. Guess Republican Party is a creed. Or race. Religion. Yes. Religion.
Fuck @Jack and his fuckbots.

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:21:49pm

re: #198 The Pie Overlord!

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That’s absurd.

The cookies will be in the shape of his hair.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:25:03pm

One key reason this is all blowing up is that the State Department IG and HR department just straight up told Pompeo to go fuck himself when he sought the power to punish diplomats for cooperating with Congress.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:28:30pm

re: #200 Mescalero09

Well I guess allowing your allies to be slaughtered, make a mockery of justice and line your mob pockets is ok.
Along with a president that incites violence and bigotry. And lied. And lies.
But don’t call them whores.
That’s too close to home. Fuck it.
I guess I’m a bad man.
I’m out for the night. Guess Republican Party is a creed. Or race. Religion. Yes. Religion.
Fuck @Jack and his fuckbots.

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@jack does not like it when anyone tweets nasty comments about his Republican butt buddies!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:34:00pm

re: #188 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Seriously and Marco dude if you still oppose same sex marriage, you’re a dinosaur. Oh and stfu about elites too. There’s nothing elitist about ridiculing homophobia.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:34:24pm

Watch this video! It will restore your faith in Life On Earth.

THE MOST AMAZING AND HYSTERICAL VIDEO ON THE INTERNET!!!! Feat. Buddy Mercury Dog and Lil Sis!

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:35:26pm

re: #197 garzooma

Very misleading headline. As noted above, Sondland is only testifying that Trump told him that:

This is like the opposite of what the headline says.

The headline is “accurate” as far as Repubs and the wingnut media will be concerned, i.e. that Sondland said no quid pro quo was intended. You’re just supposed to forget that:

- Sondland went straight to the WH the moment Taylor confronted him about military aid being withheld in exchange for Zelensky announcing new investigations into Hunter Biden

- It took five hours to come up with what was pretty clearly a WH Counsel approved response to Taylor

- Sondland ending the text discussion by telling Taylor to stop texting him and call him instead

At this point, it’s all about plausible deniability, something that Barr no doubt is trying to press on the WH in the spirit of his experience with Iran-Contra. Get the underlings to take the fall while insisting that the boss had no knowledge of any criminal activity, with the promise that they’ll get pardons once the scandal is considered “done.”

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:37:54pm
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DodgerFan1988  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:39:02pm

Trump’s war crimes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:40:14pm

re: #208 DodgerFan1988

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Trump’s war crimes.

Yeah but how dare Elizabeth Warren mock Marco Rubio’s homophobia.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:46:54pm

Losing her backup job on top of a failed Presidential bid would be a real shame.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:48:41pm

re: #210 Dread Pirate

Can she even run for her congressional seat at the same time she’s running for president?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:49:49pm

re: #211 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Can she even run for her congressional seat at the same time she’s running for president?

Depends on the state.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:50:42pm

re: #210 Dread Pirate

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Losing her backup job on top of a failed Presidential bid would be a real shame.

No because her backup job is going to be the Green Party candidate. She’s this year’s Jill Stein.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:51:30pm

Trump Defends Syria Decision Amid Turkish Attacks on Kurds: ‘Let Them Have Their Borders’

President Donald Trump used his speech before the Values Voter Summit on Saturday night to defend his withdrawal of U.S. support for Kurdish forces who remain in danger from the Turkish military’s incursion into Northern Syria.

As the U.S.-allied Kurds come under attack by Turkish forces and say ISIS fighters have been able to escape from prison amid these attacks, Trump spoke of how he understands the Syria-Turkey situation “better than most.” After grumbling about America’s involvement in the Middle East, Trump called himself an “island of one” as he spoke about his decision to pull troops away from Northern Syria.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:52:00pm

re: #211 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Can she even run for her congressional seat at the same time she’s running for president?

Different states, different rules. I do think most allow it.

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:52:16pm

I think it’s hopefully quite obvious now to never ever call for a wellness check for a person of color.

And, do not call cops to deal with ANYONE who is suicidal.

If you do, those people will more than likely be killed.

This is the fucking country we live in.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:53:30pm

re: #216 plansbandc

I think it’s hopefully quite obvious now to never ever call for a wellness check for a person of color.

And, do not call cops to deal with ANYONE who is suicidal.

If you do, those people will more than likely be killed.

This is the fucking country we live in.

Frankly, avoid calling the cops for anything. They exist to protect the wealthy and serve themselves.

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:54:03pm

OMG. hahaha!

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2019 • 6:54:28pm

re: #207 jaunte

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for those who want to point out that “treason” has a very specific legal definition about aiding the enemy during a declared war…

The AUMF means we did, in fact, have a declared war against ISIS. A war in which the Kurds were our allies, and among their part in that war was keeping captured ISIS fighters under guard. And Trump did, provably, intentionally take action to enable their return to the field of battle.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 12, 2019 • 7:22:28pm

re: #214 Amory Blaine

Trump Defends Syria Decision Amid Turkish Attacks on Kurds: ‘Let Them Have Their Borders’

Blood on Trump’s hands.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 12, 2019 • 7:37:36pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 12, 2019 • 7:46:27pm
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2019 • 7:46:36pm

Because my son is in grad school at the University of Kentucky, my wife feels she must watch the Wildcats’ football games. They have been very inconsistent this season, especially at quarterback. Their last quarterback was injured so they moved one of their receivers, Lynn Bowden, Jr, to quarterback - his position when he was in high school. He was a pretty solid quarterback, threw for a touchdown in pretty tough coverage, but Arkansas had no answer for him when he went running.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2019 • 7:52:29pm

Yes.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 12, 2019 • 7:57:29pm
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Amory Blaine  Oct 12, 2019 • 7:57:55pm

Announcing it is bad politics it allows them to respond. You have to go hard and heavy shock and awe style. You don’t announce to criminals that you’re coming over to arrest them. You file the papers in the quickest fashion and get it fucking done.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2019 • 8:06:32pm

re: #226 Amory Blaine

Announcing it is bad politics it allows them to respond. You have to go hard and heavy shock and awe style. You don’t announce to criminals that you’re coming over to arrest them. You file the papers in the quickest fashion and get it fucking done.

Some types of crimes you actually do. They didn’t storm the houses of the parents that paid to get their kids into colleges.

And with most of the enforcement power in the executive, there’s no real way they were going to do this quickly.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 13, 2019 • 1:33:24am

re: #200 Mescalero09

Well I guess allowing your allies to be slaughtered, make a mockery of justice and line your mob pockets is ok.
Along with a president that incites violence and bigotry. And lied. And lies.
But don’t call them whores.
That’s too close to home. Fuck it.
I guess I’m a bad man.
I’m out for the night. Guess Republican Party is a creed. Or race. Religion. Yes. Religion.
Fuck @Jack and his fuckbots.

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Fuck twitter and fuck facebook.


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