Here’s a thread to discuss tonight’s Democratic debate with way too many people in it. You can watch a (non-embeddable because they need the metrics) live stream here: Democratic Debate live updates: MSNBC/Washington Post.
Sorry, out of the debate loop, but this is a good point it seems to me:
If you’re looking for a secure line to communicate with Putin, you can’t do better than an unsecure cell phone conversation which you know will be intercepted by Russia and cannot legally he intercepted by USIC without your permission 🤷🏽♀️ https://t.co/jtk1TO7MIq
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) November 20, 2019
Icymi downstairs
I will use this font forever
Donald Trump’s Crazy Handwriting Is Now A Free Font Called Tiny Hand https://t.co/TShR1sjLaw— Carlos Sagan - one with great and unmatched wisdom (@RealCarlosSagan) November 21, 2019
uh joe? wut?
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2019
re: #4 Charles Johnson
He’s on the dope Charles.
Maybe it was a mistake to trust this guy to plan a crime pic.twitter.com/JTDL3viNiP
— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) November 20, 2019
come the fuck on joe. we need you to pull it together.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2019
I wonder if @DevinNunes has to work at being so obnoxious & obtuse or if it just comes naturally?#DontSueACowMan 🐄🐮 https://t.co/D8NEGyWKNV
— Mark Hamill (@HamillHimself) November 20, 2019
I’ve been trying to get this on for 5 minutes. The NBC page is bonked.
Booker once again coming to the defense of billionaires.
Don’t get me started on the rapid blinks.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2019
Nunes was also with Flynn when he spoke to the Turks.
Nunes is nervous AF right now bc he knows he’s fighting for his own survival. Also a fifth-grade reading level, doesn’t come across well on television.— richard b pratt jr (@rbprattjr) November 21, 2019
re: #10 BigPapa
I’ve been trying to get this on for 5 minutes. The NBC page is bonked.
No — no - no —- Medicare for all questions? No - no - no
Am I the only person who worries that Joe isn’t all there?
Shouty Bernie is back. And Kamala is going after Tulsi! Yay
— The Nunes Cat (@ddn1925) November 21, 2019
re: #14 Dread Pirate
Thanks DP. I opened IE and it worked. Not on Chrome. Just in time to hear Toolsi yammer about the Foreign Policy something something Hillary Clinton something. She’s getting down to Bachmann Level derpity derp.
But most importantly, what’s your favorite letter.
Oh boy, Kamala dragging Toolsi. DRAG HER!
Regime change wars. Veteran. DRINK
I. HATE. TULSI.
Oh shut up, Toolsi! Sick of your slandering Hillary!
Bush Clinton Trump policy. RonPaul 3.0, Bachman Berner Overdrive.
“Regime change wars”
Hmmm. So Tulsi would be ok with leaving the Taliban in power in 2001? How about the regime change war Kim Il Sung launched unsuccessfully in 1950? Is a re-try ok with Tulsi, assuming her fellow stooge Trump hasn’t accomplished it by then?
It’s a cult.
Tucker Carlson attacks Trump mega-donor and hand-picked EU ambassador Gordon Sondland for hiring “lefty lawyers” https://t.co/rkXdpTt0Bp
— Media Matters (@mmfa) November 21, 2019
re: #27 Ace Rothstein
I agree with Yang’s lapel pin.
Just wish the guy could find a shirt that fits. (I won’t even go to the tie debate)
So good https://t.co/RRHSiX3mcq
— Jane Lynch (@janemarielynch) November 21, 2019
Sorry, but Biden does not sound good. He’s really running words together tonight.
Klobuchar getting some quality comments.
‘I raised $17k from ex boyfriends, more than anybody else on this stage.’
Well played gurrrrlll!
Rarely has it been so obvious that the conventional wisdom from certain donor and media types about voters wanting new candidates was likely to be wrong, but it’s nonetheless amusing to see it play out. https://t.co/8ey7XNsIxO
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 21, 2019
hoarding all the good shit:
I’d be down w a @TulsiGabbard @AndrewYang ticket…
— Sean Ono Lennon (@seanonolennon) November 21, 2019
Biden giving the right answer about prosecuting Trump.
Sorry, Joe, the civility train left the station a long time ago; it’s derailed and on fire somewhere up the line.
Joe’s total failure of making the Republicans civil when he was VP hasn’t clued him in?
And he thinks they are MORE likely to be civil now?
Joe, if you get the nomination Trump will chant “Lock Him Up” at every one of his Nuremberg rallies!
Is it uncivil to point out batshit insane conspiracy theories, wholesale assault of public personas, lying and cheating?
Is it civil to tiptoe around the incivility being waged by AM radio windbags, Fucker Carlson , and multiple Banana Republican cretins?
“Poker chips at a bankrupt casino” Excellent analogy!
re: #44 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)
I was wondering the same thing.
re: #38 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)
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So, he’s an idiot I see.
I’m def in the KHive. Make Nuance Great Again.
I’m sick of billionaire businessmen. If you really want to help the country, put your $ behind the quality candidates, run for lower office and work your way up getting experience.
Steyer and Bloomberg should a few candidates now and once the nom is locked, give her huge $ to overcome all the Rubles and fuckery.
(oh, did I say she?)
Steyer making a good point about the housing crisis.
Glad they are discussing housing, which is a major problem.
There is a good reason why no candidate other than Tom Steyer talks about term limits. Because it is a stupid idea!
— Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) November 21, 2019
re: #10 BigPapa
I’ve been trying to get this on for 5 minutes. The NBC page is bonked.
I got on through the Washington Post website. Working fine.
Ukraine did know aid was being held up the day of the July 25 call.
Whoa! Cooper just said that since she testified in private, her staff has brought to her attention emails and other information that show Ukraine was inquiring about the suspended aid on July 25, the same day as the Trump-Zelensky call. This is a month earlier than we thought
— Nicholas Fandos (@npfandos) November 20, 2019
Speaking of housing:
McMansion Hell
This has a bearing on what I think is a fundamental problem in this country: How is it that such trashy people have so much money?
re: #37 NO SMOCKING GUN!
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Governor @DevalPatrick was supposed to have an event at Morehouse College tonight. An organizer with the college who planned the event told CNN that Patrick cancelled the event when he arrived and learned that he would not have an audience. (Note, two people came, not pictured)
How much of a PR buzz would he have generated if he’d taken the two supporters out for coffee and talked with them for an hour? He looks like a diva for not showing up for the people who came to hear him.
— Laura Brevitz (@laurabrevitz) November 21, 2019
A jury of humans.
BREAKING: Trump’s DOJ *retried* a man simply for providing humanitarian shelter and medical aid to 2 immigrants at a volunteer camp set up to rescue migrants. First jury deadlocked. Second jury: Total exoneration. Victory for humanity. https://t.co/plkInY8hqv
— Scott Hechinger (@ScottHech) November 21, 2019
re: #55 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Speaking of housing:
McMansion HellThis has a bearing on what I think is a fundamental problem in this country: How is it that such trashy people have so much money?
It’s not that they have so much money, it’s that they spend all their money on housing.
When my parents were shopping for what ended up being the house I grew up in, the loan officer at the bank told them that one year’s income was how much of a mortgage they’d qualify for, that’s how much house they could afford. Most people today spend 2 or 3 times that much.
It’s funny when a member of the Trump family tries to sound self-righteously moral:
Yeah Jr, we can’t have perverts forcing themselves into the locker rooms of teenage girls!https://t.co/4JoS5NPruz
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) November 21, 2019
I hope someday Trump officials are tried for their crimes against humanity.
— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) November 21, 2019
Ratfuckers gonna lead to ratfucking
JUST IN: Trump campaign promotes clip of Tulsi Gabbard criticizing Democratic party during #DemDebate https://t.co/n45pW3PBzj pic.twitter.com/IQlzoMmU62
— The Hill (@thehill) November 21, 2019
Bernie—stop shouting and waving your hands in Joe’s face
Tulsi—go home
Tom—go home
Andrew—go home
That is all (for now)
In other news:
Doctors offer to give free flu shots to detained migrants, warn Trump admin. of epidemic
“As physicians, we have seen the effects of flu infections…The outcomes can be devastating.”
A group of physicians, alarmed that the Trump administration is denying flu vaccines to immigrants in custody, is urging the Department of Homeland Security to accept its offer to provide free flu shots to California detainees.
In a Nov. 5 letter, the doctors pleaded with the administration to reconsider its decision to not vaccinate detained migrants for flu despite the deaths of at least three children in CBP custody during the 2018 flu season.
[…]
(more at link)
It seems I had this years flu. Hit me harder than the usual ones.
This could be very bad news for Trump.
Lawyer: “Parnas is prepared to testify completely and accurately about his involvement in the President and Rudy Giuliani’s quid pro quo demands of Ukraine.”https://t.co/0GEpzkF1tK
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) November 21, 2019
Uh, guys, before you go much further with this line of attack, you may want to Google “Marla Maples”.
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) November 21, 2019
re: #66 NO SMOCKING GUN!
This could be very bad news for Trump.
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Even better, could be bad news for cow boy!
Though it may be a good thing that Trump is a stupid criminal psychopath, and not a competent one!
— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) November 21, 2019
re: #69 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I don’t know if I made this comment here already today, if so, please forgive me.
My mother also likes to write with a Sharpie in ALL CAPS on a steno pad. Thing is, Mom is (a) legally blind and (b) has wet macular degeneration, so she’s down to peripheral vision. I heard that Trump doesn’t like to wear his glasses, but this is making me wonder if the guy isn’t having serious vision problems.
Lawyer: “Parnas is prepared to testify completely and accurately about his involvement in the President and Rudy Giuliani’s quid pro quo demands of Ukraine.”https://t.co/0GEpzkF1tK
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) November 21, 2019
re: #67 Ace-o-aces
ace-o-aces
@aceoaces
Uh, guys, before you go much further with this line of attack, you may want to Google “Marla Maples”.9:09 PM - Nov 20, 2019
The standard IOKIYAR rule includes a special provision: If you are Donald Trump, you can commit any crime and violate any norm and not lose any supporters and the press will provide you billions of dollars of free air time.
Apparently Yang brought his own cheering section. I find him so annoying—not Tulsi level, but close.
Live text stream of the debate
I hope this is the future. It’s a boon for people like me.
True dat.
Kamala Harris hits Tulsi Gabbard, says it’s “unfortunate” that there’s someone on the stage who has “spent four years, full time on Fox News criticizing Pres. Obama … criticizing people on this stage,” who, when Trump was elected, “buddied up to Steve Bannon.” @MSNBC
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 21, 2019
I like that they’re, for the most part, not taking the bait to go after each other. Kamala did a good job of not dissing Pete.
re: #67 Ace-o-aces
Folks remember who championed Wayne DuMond got him pardoned by Huckabee and Wayne DuMond showed how “reformed” he was by raping and killing Carol Sue Shields!
— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) November 21, 2019
re: #74 BeachDem
Apparently Yang brought his own cheering section. I find him so annoying—not Tulsi level, but close.
I have a soft spot for him because my kids are Chinese, and the only political issue me and my libertarian brother agree on is that a UBI is a good idea, so he’s a Yang fan.
Yang always likes to stack the deck. Note what happens in every Daily Kos poll showing bots flooding the polls for Yang.
re: #80 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I have a soft spot for him because my kids are Chinese, and the only political issue me and my libertarian brother agree on is that a UBI is a good idea, so he’s a Yang fan.
He’s probably a nice guy, but he’s running for president and he’s a one trick pony (and his fans are almost as annoying as Bernie Bros)
I don’t need religious proselytizing from Pete.
re: #71 BeachDem
They are really asking good questions tonight.
And Andrea’s doing a good job enforcing the clock.
I always state that I’m not committing crimes for no reason in casual conversations https://t.co/4SpVy0sj8B
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) November 20, 2019
I don’t know why Amy isn’t breaking through more. She is so damn good.
re: #88 BeachDem
She eats salads with a comb.
re: #89 Ace Rothstein
She eats salads with a comb.
When I met her, I told her I had taken to eating my salads with a comb because of her inspiration. She laughed so hard.
— Henry Olsen (@henryolsenEPPC) November 21, 2019
Elizabeth’s vocal tic “but here’s the thing” is starting to really irritate me.
re: #93 sagehen
Elizabeth’s vocal tic “but here’s the thing” is starting to really irritate me.
I know, but I eventually learned to love the sound my wife makes chewing. It’s ok.
— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) November 21, 2019
Just reading up on the NY Times and Washington Post coverage of today’s developments on the Hill.
A truism occurred to me:
Whenever one repug scumbag throws another repug scumbag under the bus, an angel gets its wings.
re: #87 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I always state that I’m not committing crimes for no reason in casual conversations https://t.co/4SpVy0sj8B
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) November 20, 2019
On September 9th, Taylor texted to Sondland: As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.
Five hours later, Sondland texted back: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind. …
My belief is that Sondland said explicitly to Trump that Taylor suggested that there was a quid pro quo and that Trump repeated back Sondland’s own words, denying a quid pro quo.
Listening to Tom and Tulsi in a row is cruel and unusual punishment.
3/ I’m starting to think that your lawyers suck, Devin Nunes is dumber than a sack of hair, Jim Jordan is the end product of several generations of enthusiastic inbreeding, and Donald Trump is the worst supervillain ever.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 21, 2019
re: #99 BeachDem
Listening to Tom and Tulsi in a row is cruel and unusual punishment.
Tom’s statements are fine — the problem is that he doesn’t belong on the stage. He should first buy a governorship like Pritzker and then he might have the qualifications to run for President.
So how long will it take for Tulsi to run to Fox News?
Actually kind of sick of Rick Wilson bluster.
It’s like hepatitis A shit-talking hepatitis C.
re: #103 Joe Bacon 🌹
So how long will it take for Tulsi to run to Fox News?
Depends on how the hearings go. I am eagerly awaiting the names of more Republicans being implicated in the weeks to come!
Stage 1 syphilis is selling a book about how much of a stupid asshole Stage 3 syphilis is.
re: #106 The Ghost of a Flea
Stage 1 syphilis is selling a book about how much of a stupid asshole Stage 3 syphilis is.
For a minute I thought you were talking about Junior’s “book” being #1 (with a dagger) and Icky Nikki’s “book” #3 on the NYT list this week. Or maybe you were…
re: #107 BeachDem
I’m willing to pretend I have layers of subtextual meaning if you are.
re: #108 The Ghost of a Flea
I’m willing to pretend I have layers of subtextual meaning if you are.
It’s a deal!
re: #107 BeachDem
For a minute I thought you were talking about Junior’s “book” being #1 (with a dagger) and Icky Nikki’s “book” #3 on the NYT list this week. Or maybe you were…
Speaking of books, did you notice how current events just sort of made the book “A Warning” by Anonymous drop off the radar? I mean, why read a book when you can see the crazy in living color on your TV, computer or cellphone?
It never ends…
Bad timing for this, but enormous scoop incoming tonight.
— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 21, 2019
re: #111 Ace-o-aces
It never ends…
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Trump says China isn’t “stepping up,” and trade talks show signs of languishing, by @davidjlynch https://t.co/cOvn3Zdlja
— Damian Paletta (@damianpaletta) November 20, 2019
Trump is eager to announce a finished China agreement and is being counseled by his trade advisers to lower expectations, according to a senior administration official who requested anonymity to describe internal deliberations. https://t.co/cOvn3Zdlja
— Damian Paletta (@damianpaletta) November 20, 2019
Hmm, I’m shocked.
re: #110 mmmirele
Speaking of books, did you notice how current events just sort of made the book “A Warning” by Anonymous drop off the radar? I mean, why read a book when you can see the crazy in living color on your TV, computer or cellphone?
If Harry Turtledove had pitched a book about a Trump Presidency 10 years ago it would have been dismissed as science fiction!
re: #115 Joe Bacon 🌹
If Harry Turtledove had pitched a book about a Trump Presidency 10 years ago it would have been dismissed as science fiction!
Postmodern American Neofascism led by a reality show/tabloid celebrity.
Let me ask you something Dan. If Trump truly want’s to investigate corruption, he has the FBI, DOJ and several intelligence agencies at his command. Why, then, did he pick this guy for the job? pic.twitter.com/dKx4egvFc1
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) November 21, 2019
His tie doesn’t match his shirt. Lost my vote.
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) November 21, 2019
“Never trust a man who wears a tie clip”- Abraham Lincoln
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) November 21, 2019
re: #111 Ace-o-aces
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It’s unclear why Facebook and the White House didn’t admit Zuckerberg, Trump and Peter Thiel had this dinner until we found out separately and asked Facebook.
It’s also unclear what the Facebook CEO, board member and president talked about.https://t.co/6j0i0NNd3o— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 21, 2019
re: #117 Ace-o-aces
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Plus the idea Trump was seriously troubled by potential nepotism is laughable, Dan and Elise should ask the Middle East peace adviser who happens to be the father of Trump’s grandchildren.
re: #117 Ace-o-aces
Why isn’t he looking closer to home? Why not investigate conflict of interest in the administration in power, for heavens sakes! Just start with the Trump progeny!
re: #117 Ace-o-aces
This is the essential question: was it appropriate for the Trump administration to be inquiring about a potentially serious conflict of interest from a previous administration?
Everyone so far agrees the Burisma-Biden issue raised concerns. Why can’t we ask about it?
Is he going to feel that way if the next D president wants every detail about Trump/Saudi, Trump/Erdogon and Ivanka/China?
Hunter being on that board meant nothing to Trump before he discovered he could use it as a pawn to manipulate Ukraine’s government.
Turning off the radio. But folks, alert me if Chris Matthews farts again
re: #122 sagehen
Is he going to feel that way if the next D president wants every detail about Trump/Saudi, Trump/Erdogon and Ivanka/China?
Nope. And he would complain if our own government investigated it.
BREAKING: Russian drone crashes Democratic debate and trashes Democratic party.👇@TulsiGabbard: “Our Democratic party unfortunately is not the party that is of, by and for the people.”#DemocraticDebate#TulsiIsARussianAsset pic.twitter.com/KgnwpHggzJ
— dσxxεd Ъuт หσт σuт (@twmentality1) November 21, 2019
re: #118 gocart mozart
The guy is running against Tom Cotton so vote for him even if he is for term limits
This week I’ve been meeting with democrats, this weekend are the democratic socialists, then next week are the republicans. Beating Cotton is of upmost importance. It will require facing issues that cross party lines in order to bring arkansans together. https://t.co/3ntAbAnycD
— Daniel Whitfield For US Senate 2020 | Arkansas (@DanWhitCongress) November 19, 2019
This is my favorite tie 🇺🇸👍🏻 pic.twitter.com/FXFrflwut8
— Daniel Whitfield For US Senate 2020 | Arkansas (@DanWhitCongress) November 21, 2019
The tie is fine as long as it is not Cotton Tie. Cotton is bad for Arkansas and bad for America.
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) November 21, 2019
re: #116 HappyWarrior
Postmodern American Neofascism led by a reality show/tabloid celebrity.
Doctor Who spinoff novels sort of already done it in the early nineties. Andrew Cartmel’s CAT’S CRADLE:WARHEAD has the U.S. of circa 2008 as an environmentally damaged corporate fascist police state under President Charles “Chuck” Norris in which the symbol of the Republican Party is an American flag with the stars replaced by a Christian cross.
re: #126 Joe Bacon 🌹
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It’s pretty rich for her to say that since she seems to appear more interested in appearing on RT & charming Steve Bannon than meeting with her constituents.
re: #128 A Three Hour Tour
Doctor Who spinoff novels sort of already done it in the early nineties. Andrew Cartmel’s CAT’S CRADLE:WARHEAD has the U.S. of circa 2008 as an environmentally damaged corporate fascist police state under President Charles “Chuck” Norris in which the symbol of the Republican Party is an American flag with the stars replaced by a Christian cross.
Not bad. Difference or I actually think Norris is a true believer religiously while Trump has never sincerely knelt in prayer.
Well, CNN gave Kamala some post-debate love! Hooray!
Thought Booker did well, also.
Not going to mention the TG thing.
Rudy Giuliani claims the US embassy in Ukraine works for George Soros - “They’re all Soros people” pic.twitter.com/xpa1TS9PLh
— Jason Campbell (@JasonSCampbell) November 20, 2019
re: #128 A Three Hour Tour
Doctor Who spinoff novels sort of already done it in the early nineties. Andrew Cartmel’s CAT’S CRADLE:WARHEAD has the U.S. of circa 2008 as an environmentally damaged corporate fascist police state under President Charles “Chuck” Norris in which the symbol of the Republican Party is an American flag with the stars replaced by a Christian cross.
I’m reminded of Norman Spinrad’s “World War Last” which is in his “Other Americas” anthology. It features a psychotic Middle Eastern dictator, a dead Russian president, a car dealer who became America’s president…
Plus nukes. A weapons system made from a video game. A Middle Eastern country that is high on pot, testing urine for MINIMUM THC’s! An animatronic Soviet leader.
And nukes.
re: #132 gocart mozart
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re: #115 Joe Bacon 🌹
If Harry Turtledove had pitched a book about a Trump Presidency 10 years ago it would have been dismissed as science fiction!
Everyone would have said we’ve already seen Back to the Future.
re: #134 A Three Hour Tour
Earlier I said he looks like Colonel Sanders.
re: #132 gocart mozart
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I posted that clip with those two antisemites earlier. And I said they could both go fuck themselves!
re: #117 Ace-o-aces
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Easiest and quickest way to shut this down?
Ask two simple questions: “Was Hunter Biden listening in on the July 25th phone call?” and “Did Hunter Biden speak with Trump about that phone call prior to the release of the Ukrainian aid?” Since we all know that the answer to both questions is “No,” then Hunter Biden’s testimony is totally irrelevant, at least according to the very standards that the Repubs have set in order to attack prior fact witnesses who’ve testified before the committee.
re: #134 A Three Hour Tour
Glenn Beck looks like he’s auditioning to play Sgt. Schultz in a “Hogan’s Heroes” remake.
Colonel Sanders and Sgt Schultz’ son.
re: #138 Targetpractice
Easiest and quickest way to shut this down?
Ask two simple questions: “Was Hunter Biden listening in on the July 25th phone call?” and “Did Hunter Biden speak with Trump about that phone call prior to the release of the Ukranian aid?” Since we all know that the answer to both questions is “No,” then Hunter Biden’s testimony is totally irrelevant, at least according to the very standards that the Repubs have set in order to attack prior fact witnesses who’ve testified before the committee.
Exactly.
re: #139 HappyWarrior
Colonel Sanders and Sgt Schultz’ son.
I hope Beck OD’s from snorting too much of those 11 secret herbs and spices…
re: #136 Ace Rothstein
Earlier I said he looks like Colonel Sanders.
The fatness of the face is reminding me more of John Banner, though.
Last month, for the first time since records began, the number of refugees resettled in the US hit zero. https://t.co/wHSnA6PH1t
— Catherine Rampell (@crampell) November 21, 2019
Why is a legislative branch member announcing this? https://t.co/xWTBwXWG1C
— Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) November 21, 2019
re: #144 Dread Pirate
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It’s going to take that long for Fat Fuck Barr to rewrite it!
re: #144 Dread Pirate
The way things are going, they’d better hurry up, or they will be too late for anything but sweeping up the ashes.
We know what Barr’s redacted report will do—Blame Hillary!
You already knew Devin Nunes was scuzzy, but this gem about him and Lev Parnas by @woodruffbets opens a new dark chapter. https://t.co/xuSYVZDp5U
— Jeff Stein (@SpyTalker) November 21, 2019
re: #144 Dread Pirate
Washington Examiner, LOLOLZ
re: #148 Dread Pirate
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Wait a second!
If his attorney is Ed MacMahon will we soon hear…Heeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrreeeeeesssss…Devin?
re: #149 Ace Rothstein
Washington Examiner, LOLOLZ
Graham announced this on Hannity earlier tonight. Said the IG is scheduled to testify before the senate intel committee on Dec. 11 and the report will be released on the 9th. While neither Hannity or Examiner resemble anything like reliable, Graham is the chairman of the committee, so I assume he knows his own schedule.
So Zuckerberg had a “secret dinner” with Trump and Peter Thiel…
President Donald Trump hosted a previously undisclosed dinner with Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook board member Peter Thiel at the White House in October, the company told NBC News on Wednesday.
The meeting took place during Zuckerberg’s most recent visit to Washington, where he testified before Congress about Facebook’s new cryptocurrency Libra. Zuckerberg also gave a speech at Georgetown University the week before, detailing his company’s commitment to free speech, and its resistance to calls for the company to crack down on misinformation in political ads.
Gee, I wonder what those three assholes are cooking up??????
re: #151 danarchy
Graham announced this on Hannity earlier tonight. Said the IG is scheduled to testify before the senate intel committee on Dec. 11 and the report will be released on the 9th. While neither Hannity or Examiner resemble anything like reliable, Graham is the chairman of the committee, so I assume he knows his own schedule.
I’m pretty sure there was a tweet posted here yesterday or the day prior about Horowitz being scheduled to testify on the 11th. IIRC, it was about how “sources” in the DOJ said that the report’s conclusion would not delegitimize the Russia investigation.
Insomniac, and impressed by all of our Democratic candidates. Even Tulsi and Bernie would at least be a step up from Trump-that is, if he’s the nominee next year. I’ve dismissed the notion that someone else would be the Republican nominee as “conspiracy theory lite”, but after this last week, I’ve started to wonder if Trump will even try to campaign, or if he’s well enough to do so. His two oldest rivals, Biden and Bernie both look healthier than him, and more vigorous too.
As for the impeachment, few think that more than one or two Republican Senators will vote to convict. He may say he’s “exonerated” but only Presidential immunity of a sort keeps him out of jail. And the details coming out of the impeachment hearings are just devastating. Between health, and possible legal issues, could he just pack it in?
For a while I read some rumors that Ivanka would be named as a running mate, replacing Pence on the ticket. Crazy, but not impossible. It happened before with Truman, running with FDR, replacing the current VP on the ticket. LBJ decided not to run, but that didn’t mean that others couldn’t be the Democratic nominee, and if Humphrey decided not to run either, the Democrats could have nominated and elected a whole new ticket. Head of the party does not have to be the nominee, like other systems.
It would need no congressional vote to do this. Pence would remain VP until the term runs out, and then if Trump wins another term, she would be VP. Now that Trump has decided to become a resident of Florida, the entire issue of electoral votes in the same state is moot. The Constitution says that a Vice President and President who run from the same state forfeit that state’s Electoral votes. It’s never been tested for a good reason: non-related politicians from the same state are usually rivals, and nobody wanted to forfeit Electoral Votes especially in close races because of putting that rival on the ticket.
If Ivanka or even Trump Jr, replaces Pence on the ticket,could they go all the way and campaign for him by proxy?
Another “This did not age well” tweet:
Whether in Schiff’s bunker or in open hearings, 4 facts will never change:
-The call transcript shows no linkage
-@POTUS and Zelensky both say no pressure
-Ukraine didn’t know aid was held up at the time of the call
-Ukraine never took any action to get aid released— Rep. Jim Jordan (@Jim_Jordan) November 13, 2019
If you have only one or two holdouts then a retrial makes sense. If you’ve lost the clear majority of the jurors in a non violent case and decide to do it all over again then you’re just a massive fucking asshole.
The really crazy thing about the government retrying Scott Warren is that the first hung jury vote broke 8 to 4 against convicting. Meaning Bill Barr’s DOJ was given a harsh reality check that their case sucked ass yet decided to try it again anyway.
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) November 21, 2019
re: #159 goddamnedfrank
If you have only one or two holdouts then a retrial makes sense. If you’ve lost the clear majority of the jurors in a non violent case and decide to do it all over again then you’re just a massive fucking asshole.
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I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that the decision rested not with Barr, but with Miller who in turn convinced Trump to make a retrial happen because they needed to “send a message.”
re: #160 Targetpractice
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that the decision rested not with Barr, but with Miller who in turn convinced Trump to make a retrial happen because they needed to “send a message.”
Looks like they got a pretty clear message back, though.
re: #119 goddamnedfrank
I’d be willing to bet that if a Democrat gets elected next year and there ends up being a serious investigation into Facebook, and regulations are signed into law as a result, Zuck will either pull the plug on FB or relocate it overseas, somewhere beyond the reach of US regulations.
re: #162 Dr Lizardo
I’d be willing to bet that if a Democrat gets elected next year and there ends up being a serious investigation into Facebook, and regulations are signed into law as a result, Zuck will either pull the plug on FB or relocate it overseas, somewhere beyond the reach of US regulations.
He can’t really pull the plug because even though he owns a controlling majority of shares the resulting shareholder lawsuit would be enormous, and it’s damned hard to relocate 40K full time employees when most of them can find good alternate jobs right where they are now.
re: #64 BeachDem
Bernie—stop shouting and waving your hands in Joe’s face
Tulsi—go home
Tom—go home
Andrew—go homeThat is all (for now)
I am not about to start watching the debates until everyone who should go home has gone home already.
re: #69 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Though it may be a good thing that Trump is a stupid criminal psychopath, and not a competent one!
I mentioned earlier, but Trump was too ham-handed to create some layers of deniability by simply asking Zelinski to open a series of investigations in which the Bidens would feature prominently He made it clear that all he dared about was an announcement of a Biden investigation, and that brazen approach was what prompted the whistleblowers and witnesses to call him out on it.
Hillary Clinton calls for White House adviser’s removal, says his presence is an ‘emergency’ https://t.co/JRJhD9eGOL
— Kamala’s Yellar Dawg (@StrayYellarDawg) November 21, 2019
re: #162 Dr Lizardo
I’d be willing to bet that if a Democrat gets elected next year and there ends up being a serious investigation into Facebook, and regulations are signed into law as a result, Zuck will either pull the plug on FB or relocate it overseas, somewhere beyond the reach of US regulations.
Zuck will take his money and run. The fools that bought shares will take the loss
re: #167 fern01
Zuck will take his money and run. The fools that bought shares will take the loss
Russia would be happy to have him…cut out the middleman.
It’s going to be another pizazzy day
— Deborah Lee (@leepen_lee) November 21, 2019
re: #169 goddamnedfrank
New - Fiona Hill will offer a full-throated rebuttal to the narrative pushed by Trump and his GOP allies about Ukraine’s role meddling in American politics, per source, warning the US to keep an eye on the Kremlin instead.
I was just over at a site full of Putinversteher and their comments on the impeachment proceedings shows that they are turning into full-on Trumpversteher as well, a true triumph of Russia’s information strategy.
Since time travel is impossible, Greta Thunberg is clearly immortal.
How eery is it that they both wear their hair the same way…A side plait, worn on same side! Time traveller or Greta in a past life? My mind is literally blown 🤯 #GretaThunberg pic.twitter.com/pOERjaeSR7
— Melissa (@cosmicconpod) November 20, 2019
re: #171 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Since time travel is impossible, Greta Thunberg is clearly immortal.
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Well, the truth is obvious…she’s a Time Lord.
re: #171 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Since time travel is impossible, Greta Thunberg is clearly immortal.
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Making a kid an immortal vampire is against the rules!
btw, their hair isn’t the same grandma has double pigtails…..
re: #117 Ace-o-aces
ace-o-aces
@aceoaces
Let me ask you something Dan. If Trump truly want’s to investigate corruption, he has the FBI, DOJ and several intelligence agencies at his command. Why, then, did he pick this guy for the job?
and,again, second question - if this was all on the up and up, why didnt it simply go through the actual ambassador to the ukraine
re: #171 NO SMOCKING GUN!
How eery is it that they both wear their hair the same way…A side plait, worn on same side! Time traveller or Greta in a past life? My mind is literally blown
more an example of a somewhat limited gene pool.
I have at least two Doppelgänger that I know of: we met some Scotsmen once camping in Wales who said they have a friend who looks just like me, he even plays banjo and guitar as I do, but he limps on one leg.
I pointed out that I likewise have one leg shorter than another.
So a bit later I met some Irishmen who said they know a fellow near Waterford who plays mandolin and sings, which I also do.
I just asked, “Which leg?”
I suppose we should get together and form a band: Limping Bizkit.
Tulsi must be confused that her shtick is being called out in front of God and everyone, Dems have been letting folks like that get away with it forever.
Her parachuting into a FoxNews paid gig might now be questioned.
The only reason for Tulsi’s continuing campaign is to help Trump get re-elected
re: #172 Targetpractice
Well, the truth is obvious…she’s a Time Lord.
And trying to warn us of our folly.
re: #159 goddamnedfrank
If you have only one or two holdouts then a retrial makes sense. If you’ve lost the clear majority of the jurors in a non violent case and decide to do it all over again then you’re just a massive fucking asshole.
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DOJ is doing everything it can to justify their crimes against humanity.
But the people - even in a place polarized on the issue of illegal border crossings - told the DOJ that they do not agree with their crimes against humanity.
re: #162 Dr Lizardo
I’d be willing to bet that if a Democrat gets elected next year and there ends up being a serious investigation into Facebook, and regulations are signed into law as a result, Zuck will either pull the plug on FB or relocate it overseas, somewhere beyond the reach of US regulations.
FB is opening a facility in London…which was basically buying off officials due to their Brexit fuckery.
Ireland had to tell FB that they forbid any election information when they had the referendum (or whatever it is called there) on abortion.
FB needs to fucking die. Regulate the living shit out of it or make it go dark.
FB is fucking with democracy world wide. Zuck is no different than Murdoch.
re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The only reason for Tulsi’s continuing campaign is to help Trump get re-elected
She is not running for re-election. She’s done… I am sure that is part of the reason that the knives finally came out…
re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The only reason for Tulsi’s continuing campaign is to help Trump get re-elected
lol, sorry, i misread your comment
re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That’s pretty much how I feel.
So, what do I wake up to in my phone Notifications?
Bloomberg - Gaffes and Skirmishes everyone will be talking about.
HuffPo - Zingers.
WaPo and Vox - Winners and losers. This is OKish. Too horse-racy for me but better than nothing but horse race.
WSJ - Candidates use a lot of filler phrases. Hard hitting bullshit right there.
USA Today did ok…debate analysis and what the real question is…who can beat trump, which really is the only thing any of us care about.
re: #181 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
FB is opening a facility in London…which was basically buying off officials due to their Brexit fuckery.
Ireland had to tell FB that they forbid any election information when they had the referendum (or whatever it is called there) on abortion.
FB needs to fucking die. Regulate the living shit out of it or make it go dark.
FB is fucking with democracy world wide. Zuck is no different than Murdoch.
It’s not a coincidence he’s been learning Mandarin.
When do the hearings start? Do I have time to go out for breakfast?
(don’t want to miss a single word)
re: #171 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Since time travel is impossible, Greta Thunberg is clearly immortal.
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I saw that the other day & just stared at it for awhile,
Incredible.
re: #184 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
That’s pretty much how I feel.
I am waiting for the field to narrow down to three or four (I guess it is inevitable, barring another heart attack that Bernie will be among them) and then start paying attention to who I will support in the primaries.
re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have many clones. Had to change my hair to distinguish myself. :D
Quite the front page today.
Headed to @Morning_Joe ☕️… pic.twitter.com/umPjTcM1e5— Ari Melber (@AriMelber) November 21, 2019
Anyone else enjoying watching dipshit lose his fucking mind this morning??#DerangedDonald#HumanScum pic.twitter.com/fbJaRVWIQe
— Dad Of 4A’s (@4a_of) November 21, 2019
BREAKING: 5-time draft-dodger attacks military.
The Republicans are now the “War Criminal Party.” https://t.co/OKNAWSGOlg— Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) November 21, 2019
re: #193 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
Indeed it is….I had to doublecheck to make sure it wasn’t from the Watergate era.
re: #195 jaunte
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Shut up President Warcriminal Enabler. I bet killing civilians gets him giddy.
re: #195 jaunte
BREAKING: 5-time draft-dodger attacks military.
The Republicans are now the “War Criminal Party.”
Trump does not understand the Chain of Command.
He is used to giving orders and having people bend over backwards to fulfill them, even if it means undoing what he ordered a few days beforehand…
Fiona hill’s opening statement is out
Looks like she’s not taking any shit from anyone
Re: some lawmakers appear to believe Ukraine, not Russia, sought to interfere in 2016 election:
“This is a fictional narrative.”
“I refuse to be part of an effort to legitimize an alternate narrative that the Ukrainian government is a U.S. adversary, and that Ukraine—not Russia—attacked us in 2016. These fictions are harmful even if they are deployed for purely domestic political purposes
Career diplomats. Gotta love em.
re: #196 Dr Lizardo
Indeed it is….I had to doublecheck to make sure it wasn’t from the Watergate era.
Their editorial is typical nyt p. It’s about slow walking the inquiry. At least the front page folks had the nerve to do this right
re: #196 Dr Lizardo
Indeed it is….I had to doublecheck to make sure it wasn’t from the Watergate era.
Then again
New York Times: “We Followed the President’s Orders”
Washington Post: “Diplomat Acknowledges Quid Pro Quo”
Wall Street Journal: “Envoy Says Trump Directed Effort”
USA Today: “Everyone Was In the Loop”
You gotta scroll way down on fox to see the story
Their headlienis the debate
re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Trump does not understand the Chain of Command.
He is used to giving orders and having people bend over backwards to fulfill them, even if it means undoing what he ordered a few days beforehand…
Yeah he’s quite the demander.
Not at all an inspiring leader nor a persuader
re: #199 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
Fiona hill’s opening statement is out
Looks like she’s not taking any shit from anyone
Re: some lawmakers appear to believe Ukraine, not Russia, sought to interfere in 2016 election:
Career diplomats. Gotta love em.
They’ll try that deep state bullshit but what they call the deep state is what shits like Rudy and his mobbed friends were doing.
Republicans are still trying with those poorly designed and conceived posters.
“101 Days Since Adam Schiff lerned IdEntiTy uf WhissleBlowr!!!”
Erasing Black women is chronic
— ((( Cajsa ))) (@Cajsa) November 21, 2019
You forgot about the first debate
— Peter Hamby (@PeterHamby) November 21, 2019
Nope, she whiffed in the original debate when Tulsi attacked her. Came up with her own putdown the next day. And now tonight. But not in the spur of the moment, as Buttigieg did.
— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) November 21, 2019
And thus we see why Kamala ceased to get any purchase after that 2nd debate: they deigned only to define her by that debate alone and her perceived ‘failures’ and refused to update any expectations or give credit for anything else after that. Her status was forever set in stone.
re: #207 Citizen K
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And thus we see why Kamala ceased to get any purchase after that 2nd debate: they deigned only to define her by that debate alone and her perceived ‘failures’ and refused to update any expectations or give credit for anything else after that. Her status was forever set in stone.
Yeah it’s obvious that certain people don’t want to amplify Kamala and it sucks.
re: #208 HappyWarrior
Yeah it’s obvious that certain people don’t want to amplify Kamala and it sucks.
Like I said a few days ago when they lifted Kamala up as ruining chances for any POC Woman in the future, they remembered her existence only to tear her down again.
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.
The GOP will continue to distance themselves from reality, and Fiona Hill is testifying under oath today. Her testimony will continue to corroborate what we already know that everyone in Trumpworld was in on Trump’s attempt to bribe/extort Ukraine into announcing an investigation of Bidens by withholding military aid that they desperately needed.
Expect Trump to attack her because she’s bringing the fire.
Fiona Hill with a message to those who have refused to testify: “I believe that those who have information that the Congress deems relevant have a legal and moral obligation to provide it.”
— Meridith McGraw (@meridithmcgraw) November 21, 2019
Trump wanted the investigation to be announced because it would hurt Biden. He didn’t care if the investigation went anywhere. The announcement would be sufficient. Trump didn’t give a shit about corruption, except where he could profit from it.
Now we also learn that Lev Parnas was involved in setting up a meeting between Nunes and Ukrainian officials.
Nunes should be testifying under oath as to what his role in all this is, not the one asking questions.
And he knows it. https://t.co/RM5psfM1EP— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 21, 2019
re: #209 Citizen K
Like I said a few days ago when they lifted Kamala up as ruining chances for any POC Woman in the future, they remembered her existence only to tear her down again.
It’s so frustrating because she does offer a lot to the conversation. She’s progressive yet not dogmatic. Forward thinking but practical.
re: #202 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
I’m sure there’s ongoing debate at FNC up in the exec boardroom about how to spin this. I mean, sure, Hannity has been reduced to doing a Kevin Bacon “All is well!” impression, but it’s pretty obvious to anyone that he’s living in his own alternate reality.
re: #181 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
FB is fucking with democracy world wide. Zuck is no different than Murdoch.
This is where the current crop of Dem candidates is missing the mark - they should be running on protecting the individual privacy of net users by creating a US version of the EU’s GDPR, but with more teeth.
I temporarily signed up on Facebook, and it was eye-opening as the reality of shadow profiles was staring me in the face once I got on. I quickly closed my account and refuse to use it.
Decades ago on a 1970s “60 Minutes” it was the Automated Clearing House that was cited as the biggest threat to privacy - now it’s the FAANGs (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, and Microsoft) that are our biggest threat.
If you are going to do a General Strike, the FAANGs need to be the target of such an action.
re: #208 HappyWarrior
Yeah it’s obvious that certain people don’t want to amplify Kamala and it sucks.
As a woman it infuriates me.
A woman at the top of the dem ticket is going to be hard, really hard, because women have it much harder than (1) white men, then (2) any other men. Fact of life.
Black men got the vote before women did.
It’s like we barely matter, have to work 100x harder, have to prove what where others (meaning men) are assumed. Where men are strong and assertive, women are bitches. We don’t fucking smile enough.
Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way a man hater and I think you all know that, but this is just a fact of life.
Christ, fucking Pakistan elected a woman decades ago. Yet here we are.
Smile gals…and for god’s sake be nice. Otherwise, you’re invisible (see Kamala and Amy both).
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
re: #213 Eric The Fruit Bat
This is where the current crop of Dem candidates is missing the mark - they should be running on protecting the individual privacy of net users by creating a US version of the EU’s GDPR, but with more teeth.
I temporarily signed up on Facebook, and it was eye-opening as the reality of shadow profiles was staring me in the face once I got on. I quickly closed my account and refuse to use it.
Decades ago on a 1970s “60 Minutes” it was the Automated Clearing House that was cited as the biggest threat to privacy - now it’s the FAANGs (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, and Microsoft) that are our biggest threat.
If you are going to do a General Strike, the FAANGs need to be the target of such an action.
But donchano that regulations are bad? /dripping
re: #214 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
It’s like we barely matter, have to work 100x harder, have to prove what where others (meaning men) are assumed. Where men are strong and assertive, women are bitches. We don’t fucking smile enough.
Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way a man hater and I think you all know that, but this is just a fact of life.
Try to imagine a woman behaving as Kavenaugh did at his hearing. I dare you, just try.
re: #207 Citizen K
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