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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:10:14pm

Biden stumbling over his words already.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:10:29pm

Sorry, out of the debate loop, but this is a good point it seems to me:

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:11:16pm

Icymi downstairs

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:11:53pm
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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:13:28pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

He’s on the dope Charles.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:14:53pm

It’s like sweeps week for political junkies!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:15:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:16:40pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:18:13pm
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BigPapa  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:19:03pm

I’ve been trying to get this on for 5 minutes. The NBC page is bonked.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:20:39pm

Booker once again coming to the defense of billionaires.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:22:54pm
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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:23:28pm
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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:24:04pm

re: #10 BigPapa

I’ve been trying to get this on for 5 minutes. The NBC page is bonked.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:24:51pm

No — no - no —- Medicare for all questions? No - no - no

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:26:02pm

Um, Tulsi?
No

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bratwurst  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:26:32pm

Am I the only person who worries that Joe isn’t all there?

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:26:44pm

Shouty Bernie is back. And Kamala is going after Tulsi! Yay

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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:26:50pm
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BigPapa  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:27:20pm

re: #14 Dread Pirate

Thanks DP. I opened IE and it worked. Not on Chrome. Just in time to hear Toolsi yammer about the Foreign Policy something something Hillary Clinton something. She’s getting down to Bachmann Level derpity derp.

But most importantly, what’s your favorite letter.

Oh boy, Kamala dragging Toolsi. DRAG HER!

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:27:52pm

re: #17 bratwurst

No.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:28:33pm

Regime change wars. Veteran. DRINK

I. HATE. TULSI.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:28:47pm

Oh shut up, Toolsi! Sick of your slandering Hillary!

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BigPapa  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:28:51pm

Bush Clinton Trump policy. RonPaul 3.0, Bachman Berner Overdrive.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:30:53pm

“Regime change wars”
Hmmm. So Tulsi would be ok with leaving the Taliban in power in 2001? How about the regime change war Kim Il Sung launched unsuccessfully in 1950? Is a re-try ok with Tulsi, assuming her fellow stooge Trump hasn’t accomplished it by then?

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bratwurst  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:32:07pm

It’s a cult.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:32:39pm

I agree with Yang’s lapel pin.

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:33:10pm

re: #27 Ace Rothstein

I agree with Yang’s lapel pin.

What does it say?

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:33:25pm

re: #28 Jay C

Math.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:33:41pm

re: #27 Ace Rothstein

I agree with Yang’s lapel pin.

Just wish the guy could find a shirt that fits. (I won’t even go to the tie debate)

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:35:17pm
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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:35:30pm

re: #29 Ace Rothstein

Math.

Stands for Make America Think Harder

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:37:18pm

Amy’s kicking some ass.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:38:31pm

Sorry, but Biden does not sound good. He’s really running words together tonight.

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:40:41pm

re: #33 BeachDem

Amy’s kicking some ass.

THAT’S MY GIRL!!

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BigPapa  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:42:36pm

Klobuchar getting some quality comments.

‘I raised $17k from ex boyfriends, more than anybody else on this stage.’

Well played gurrrrlll!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:43:18pm
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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:43:51pm

hoarding all the good shit:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:44:04pm

Biden giving the right answer about prosecuting Trump.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:45:06pm

Sorry, Joe, the civility train left the station a long time ago; it’s derailed and on fire somewhere up the line.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:47:00pm

Joe’s total failure of making the Republicans civil when he was VP hasn’t clued him in?

And he thinks they are MORE likely to be civil now?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:47:22pm

Joe, if you get the nomination Trump will chant “Lock Him Up” at every one of his Nuremberg rallies!

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BigPapa  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:47:49pm

Is it uncivil to point out batshit insane conspiracy theories, wholesale assault of public personas, lying and cheating?

Is it civil to tiptoe around the incivility being waged by AM radio windbags, Fucker Carlson , and multiple Banana Republican cretins?

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:48:42pm

Does Amy always shake like this?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:48:49pm

“Poker chips at a bankrupt casino” Excellent analogy!

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:51:03pm

re: #44 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

I was wondering the same thing.

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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:51:10pm

re: #38 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

hoarding all the good shit:

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So, he’s an idiot I see.

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BigPapa  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:52:14pm

I’m def in the KHive. Make Nuance Great Again.

I’m sick of billionaire businessmen. If you really want to help the country, put your $ behind the quality candidates, run for lower office and work your way up getting experience.

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BigPapa  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:53:32pm

Steyer and Bloomberg should a few candidates now and once the nom is locked, give her huge $ to overcome all the Rubles and fuckery.

(oh, did I say she?)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:53:39pm

Steyer making a good point about the housing crisis.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:55:17pm

Glad they are discussing housing, which is a major problem.

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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:55:52pm
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retired cynic  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:58:02pm

re: #10 BigPapa

I’ve been trying to get this on for 5 minutes. The NBC page is bonked.

I got on through the Washington Post website. Working fine.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:58:48pm

Ukraine did know aid was being held up the day of the July 25 call.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:59:35pm

Speaking of housing:
McMansion Hell

This has a bearing on what I think is a fundamental problem in this country: How is it that such trashy people have so much money?

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stpaulbear  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:02:20pm

re: #37 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Governor @DevalPatrick was supposed to have an event at Morehouse College tonight. An organizer with the college who planned the event told CNN that Patrick cancelled the event when he arrived and learned that he would not have an audience. (Note, two people came, not pictured)

How much of a PR buzz would he have generated if he’d taken the two supporters out for coffee and talked with them for an hour? He looks like a diva for not showing up for the people who came to hear him.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:02:37pm

A question about climate change!

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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:04:04pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:04:22pm

A jury of humans.

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:05:08pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Speaking of housing:
McMansion Hell

This has a bearing on what I think is a fundamental problem in this country: How is it that such trashy people have so much money?

It’s not that they have so much money, it’s that they spend all their money on housing.

When my parents were shopping for what ended up being the house I grew up in, the loan officer at the bank told them that one year’s income was how much of a mortgage they’d qualify for, that’s how much house they could afford. Most people today spend 2 or 3 times that much.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:05:19pm

It’s funny when a member of the Trump family tries to sound self-righteously moral:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:07:23pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:08:34pm

Ratfuckers gonna lead to ratfucking

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:08:34pm

Bernie—stop shouting and waving your hands in Joe’s face
Tulsi—go home
Tom—go home
Andrew—go home

That is all (for now)

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Teukka  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:09:08pm

In other news:

Doctors offer to give free flu shots to detained migrants, warn Trump admin. of epidemic

“As physicians, we have seen the effects of flu infections…The outcomes can be devastating.”

A group of physicians, alarmed that the Trump administration is denying flu vaccines to immigrants in custody, is urging the Department of Homeland Security to accept its offer to provide free flu shots to California detainees.

In a Nov. 5 letter, the doctors pleaded with the administration to reconsider its decision to not vaccinate detained migrants for flu despite the deaths of at least three children in CBP custody during the 2018 flu season.

[…]

(more at link)

It seems I had this years flu. Hit me harder than the usual ones.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:10:38pm

This could be very bad news for Trump.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:11:08pm
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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:11:54pm

re: #66 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This could be very bad news for Trump.

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Even better, could be bad news for cow boy!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:22:12pm
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mmmirele  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:24:54pm

re: #69 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I don’t know if I made this comment here already today, if so, please forgive me.

My mother also likes to write with a Sharpie in ALL CAPS on a steno pad. Thing is, Mom is (a) legally blind and (b) has wet macular degeneration, so she’s down to peripheral vision. I heard that Trump doesn’t like to wear his glasses, but this is making me wonder if the guy isn’t having serious vision problems.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:25:06pm

They are really asking good questions tonight.

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gocart mozart  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:29:25pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:29:58pm

re: #67 Ace-o-aces

ace-o-aces
@aceoaces
Uh, guys, before you go much further with this line of attack, you may want to Google “Marla Maples”.

9:09 PM - Nov 20, 2019

The standard IOKIYAR rule includes a special provision: If you are Donald Trump, you can commit any crime and violate any norm and not lose any supporters and the press will provide you billions of dollars of free air time.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:31:31pm

Apparently Yang brought his own cheering section. I find him so annoying—not Tulsi level, but close.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:32:44pm

Live text stream of the debate

I hope this is the future. It’s a boon for people like me.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:35:00pm

True dat.

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Jason Munro  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:35:29pm

re: #75 Sherlock Hound

this is cool, thanks!

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:35:31pm

I like that they’re, for the most part, not taking the bait to go after each other. Kamala did a good job of not dissing Pete.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:36:55pm

re: #67 Ace-o-aces

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:37:05pm

re: #74 BeachDem

Apparently Yang brought his own cheering section. I find him so annoying—not Tulsi level, but close.

I have a soft spot for him because my kids are Chinese, and the only political issue me and my libertarian brother agree on is that a UBI is a good idea, so he’s a Yang fan.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:38:08pm

Yang always likes to stack the deck. Note what happens in every Daily Kos poll showing bots flooding the polls for Yang.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:39:45pm

re: #80 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I have a soft spot for him because my kids are Chinese, and the only political issue me and my libertarian brother agree on is that a UBI is a good idea, so he’s a Yang fan.

He’s probably a nice guy, but he’s running for president and he’s a one trick pony (and his fans are almost as annoying as Bernie Bros)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:41:14pm

I don’t need religious proselytizing from Pete.

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:44:01pm

re: #71 BeachDem

They are really asking good questions tonight.

And Andrea’s doing a good job enforcing the clock.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:45:29pm

Biden almost had a GET OFF MY LAWN moment.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:46:06pm

re: #32 BeachDem

Stands for Make America Think Harder

Or maybe honorably.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:47:02pm
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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:50:42pm

I don’t know why Amy isn’t breaking through more. She is so damn good.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:51:11pm

re: #88 BeachDem

She eats salads with a comb.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:51:39pm

Bernie is old Man Horchack…..

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:52:31pm

re: #89 Ace Rothstein

She eats salads with a comb.

When I met her, I told her I had taken to eating my salads with a comb because of her inspiration. She laughed so hard.

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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:53:09pm
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sagehen  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:53:14pm

Elizabeth’s vocal tic “but here’s the thing” is starting to really irritate me.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:55:40pm

re: #93 sagehen

Elizabeth’s vocal tic “but here’s the thing” is starting to really irritate me.

I know, but I eventually learned to love the sound my wife makes chewing. It’s ok.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:58:19pm
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Scout  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:02:59pm

Just reading up on the NY Times and Washington Post coverage of today’s developments on the Hill.

A truism occurred to me:

Whenever one repug scumbag throws another repug scumbag under the bus, an angel gets its wings.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:03:02pm

Pete Stings Tulsi

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:07:06pm

re: #87 NO SMOCKING GUN!

On September 9th, Taylor texted to Sondland: As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.

Five hours later, Sondland texted back: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind. …

My belief is that Sondland said explicitly to Trump that Taylor suggested that there was a quid pro quo and that Trump repeated back Sondland’s own words, denying a quid pro quo.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:08:18pm

Listening to Tom and Tulsi in a row is cruel and unusual punishment.

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:09:04pm

Did Yang just say his child Is named Damien?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:09:56pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:10:45pm

re: #99 BeachDem

Listening to Tom and Tulsi in a row is cruel and unusual punishment.

Tom’s statements are fine — the problem is that he doesn’t belong on the stage. He should first buy a governorship like Pritzker and then he might have the qualifications to run for President.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:11:14pm

So how long will it take for Tulsi to run to Fox News?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:15:42pm

Actually kind of sick of Rick Wilson bluster.

It’s like hepatitis A shit-talking hepatitis C.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:15:51pm

re: #103 Joe Bacon 🌹

So how long will it take for Tulsi to run to Fox News?

Depends on how the hearings go. I am eagerly awaiting the names of more Republicans being implicated in the weeks to come!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:18:08pm

Stage 1 syphilis is selling a book about how much of a stupid asshole Stage 3 syphilis is.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:21:12pm

re: #106 The Ghost of a Flea

Stage 1 syphilis is selling a book about how much of a stupid asshole Stage 3 syphilis is.

For a minute I thought you were talking about Junior’s “book” being #1 (with a dagger) and Icky Nikki’s “book” #3 on the NYT list this week. Or maybe you were…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:22:16pm

re: #107 BeachDem

I’m willing to pretend I have layers of subtextual meaning if you are.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:24:31pm

re: #108 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m willing to pretend I have layers of subtextual meaning if you are.

It’s a deal!

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mmmirele  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:28:13pm

re: #107 BeachDem

For a minute I thought you were talking about Junior’s “book” being #1 (with a dagger) and Icky Nikki’s “book” #3 on the NYT list this week. Or maybe you were…

Speaking of books, did you notice how current events just sort of made the book “A Warning” by Anonymous drop off the radar? I mean, why read a book when you can see the crazy in living color on your TV, computer or cellphone?

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:28:25pm

It never ends…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:31:00pm

re: #111 Ace-o-aces

It never ends…

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Did an Ohio State wrestler produce a stained blue singlet?

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Teukka  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:33:17pm

re: #101 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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That’s gonna leave a mark…

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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:34:49pm

Hmm, I’m shocked.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:35:11pm

re: #110 mmmirele

Speaking of books, did you notice how current events just sort of made the book “A Warning” by Anonymous drop off the radar? I mean, why read a book when you can see the crazy in living color on your TV, computer or cellphone?

If Harry Turtledove had pitched a book about a Trump Presidency 10 years ago it would have been dismissed as science fiction!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:37:06pm

re: #115 Joe Bacon 🌹

If Harry Turtledove had pitched a book about a Trump Presidency 10 years ago it would have been dismissed as science fiction!

Postmodern American Neofascism led by a reality show/tabloid celebrity.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:38:02pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:41:00pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:41:08pm

re: #111 Ace-o-aces

It never ends…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:41:22pm

re: #117 Ace-o-aces

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Plus the idea Trump was seriously troubled by potential nepotism is laughable, Dan and Elise should ask the Middle East peace adviser who happens to be the father of Trump’s grandchildren.

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retired cynic  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:42:23pm

re: #117 Ace-o-aces

Why isn’t he looking closer to home? Why not investigate conflict of interest in the administration in power, for heavens sakes! Just start with the Trump progeny!

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:43:15pm

re: #117 Ace-o-aces

This is the essential question: was it appropriate for the Trump administration to be inquiring about a potentially serious conflict of interest from a previous administration?

Everyone so far agrees the Burisma-Biden issue raised concerns. Why can’t we ask about it?

Is he going to feel that way if the next D president wants every detail about Trump/Saudi, Trump/Erdogon and Ivanka/China?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:44:43pm

Hunter being on that board meant nothing to Trump before he discovered he could use it as a pawn to manipulate Ukraine’s government.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:45:12pm

Turning off the radio. But folks, alert me if Chris Matthews farts again

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:45:44pm

re: #122 sagehen

Is he going to feel that way if the next D president wants every detail about Trump/Saudi, Trump/Erdogon and Ivanka/China?

Nope. And he would complain if our own government investigated it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:50:59pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:52:39pm

re: #118 gocart mozart
The guy is running against Tom Cotton so vote for him even if he is for term limits

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:52:51pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Postmodern American Neofascism led by a reality show/tabloid celebrity.

Doctor Who spinoff novels sort of already done it in the early nineties. Andrew Cartmel’s CAT’S CRADLE:WARHEAD has the U.S. of circa 2008 as an environmentally damaged corporate fascist police state under President Charles “Chuck” Norris in which the symbol of the Republican Party is an American flag with the stars replaced by a Christian cross.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:53:14pm

re: #126 Joe Bacon 🌹

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It’s pretty rich for her to say that since she seems to appear more interested in appearing on RT & charming Steve Bannon than meeting with her constituents.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:55:42pm

re: #128 A Three Hour Tour

Doctor Who spinoff novels sort of already done it in the early nineties. Andrew Cartmel’s CAT’S CRADLE:WARHEAD has the U.S. of circa 2008 as an environmentally damaged corporate fascist police state under President Charles “Chuck” Norris in which the symbol of the Republican Party is an American flag with the stars replaced by a Christian cross.

Not bad. Difference or I actually think Norris is a true believer religiously while Trump has never sincerely knelt in prayer.

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retired cynic  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:57:57pm

Well, CNN gave Kamala some post-debate love! Hooray!

Thought Booker did well, also.

Not going to mention the TG thing.

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gocart mozart  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:59:21pm
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Sherlock Hound  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:01:30pm

re: #128 A Three Hour Tour

Doctor Who spinoff novels sort of already done it in the early nineties. Andrew Cartmel’s CAT’S CRADLE:WARHEAD has the U.S. of circa 2008 as an environmentally damaged corporate fascist police state under President Charles “Chuck” Norris in which the symbol of the Republican Party is an American flag with the stars replaced by a Christian cross.

I’m reminded of Norman Spinrad’s “World War Last” which is in his “Other Americas” anthology. It features a psychotic Middle Eastern dictator, a dead Russian president, a car dealer who became America’s president…

Plus nukes. A weapons system made from a video game. A Middle Eastern country that is high on pot, testing urine for MINIMUM THC’s! An animatronic Soviet leader.

And nukes.

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:02:10pm

re: #132 gocart mozart

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Glenn Beck looks like he’s auditioning to play Sgt. Schultz in a “Hogan’s Heroes” remake.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:02:10pm

re: #115 Joe Bacon 🌹

If Harry Turtledove had pitched a book about a Trump Presidency 10 years ago it would have been dismissed as science fiction!

Everyone would have said we’ve already seen Back to the Future.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:05:06pm

re: #134 A Three Hour Tour

Earlier I said he looks like Colonel Sanders.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:06:16pm

re: #132 gocart mozart

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I posted that clip with those two antisemites earlier. And I said they could both go fuck themselves!

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:08:19pm

re: #117 Ace-o-aces

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Easiest and quickest way to shut this down?

Ask two simple questions: “Was Hunter Biden listening in on the July 25th phone call?” and “Did Hunter Biden speak with Trump about that phone call prior to the release of the Ukrainian aid?” Since we all know that the answer to both questions is “No,” then Hunter Biden’s testimony is totally irrelevant, at least according to the very standards that the Repubs have set in order to attack prior fact witnesses who’ve testified before the committee.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:08:40pm

re: #134 A Three Hour Tour

Glenn Beck looks like he’s auditioning to play Sgt. Schultz in a “Hogan’s Heroes” remake.

Colonel Sanders and Sgt Schultz’ son.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:09:21pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

Easiest and quickest way to shut this down?

Ask two simple questions: “Was Hunter Biden listening in on the July 25th phone call?” and “Did Hunter Biden speak with Trump about that phone call prior to the release of the Ukranian aid?” Since we all know that the answer to both questions is “No,” then Hunter Biden’s testimony is totally irrelevant, at least according to the very standards that the Repubs have set in order to attack prior fact witnesses who’ve testified before the committee.

Exactly.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:09:21pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

Colonel Sanders and Sgt Schultz’ son.

I hope Beck OD’s from snorting too much of those 11 secret herbs and spices…

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:10:23pm

re: #136 Ace Rothstein

Earlier I said he looks like Colonel Sanders.

The fatness of the face is reminding me more of John Banner, though.

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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:13:24pm
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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:16:16pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:18:20pm

re: #144 Dread Pirate

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It’s going to take that long for Fat Fuck Barr to rewrite it!

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retired cynic  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:18:23pm

re: #144 Dread Pirate

The way things are going, they’d better hurry up, or they will be too late for anything but sweeping up the ashes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:19:10pm

We know what Barr’s redacted report will do—Blame Hillary!

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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:23:48pm
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:30:44pm

re: #144 Dread Pirate

Washington Examiner, LOLOLZ

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:36:10pm

re: #148 Dread Pirate

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Wait a second!

If his attorney is Ed MacMahon will we soon hear…Heeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrreeeeeesssss…Devin?

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danarchy  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:39:00pm

re: #149 Ace Rothstein

Washington Examiner, LOLOLZ

Graham announced this on Hannity earlier tonight. Said the IG is scheduled to testify before the senate intel committee on Dec. 11 and the report will be released on the 9th. While neither Hannity or Examiner resemble anything like reliable, Graham is the chairman of the committee, so I assume he knows his own schedule.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:43:09pm

So Zuckerberg had a “secret dinner” with Trump and Peter Thiel…

nbcnews.com

President Donald Trump hosted a previously undisclosed dinner with Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook board member Peter Thiel at the White House in October, the company told NBC News on Wednesday.

The meeting took place during Zuckerberg’s most recent visit to Washington, where he testified before Congress about Facebook’s new cryptocurrency Libra. Zuckerberg also gave a speech at Georgetown University the week before, detailing his company’s commitment to free speech, and its resistance to calls for the company to crack down on misinformation in political ads.

Gee, I wonder what those three assholes are cooking up??????

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:49:08pm

re: #151 danarchy

Graham announced this on Hannity earlier tonight. Said the IG is scheduled to testify before the senate intel committee on Dec. 11 and the report will be released on the 9th. While neither Hannity or Examiner resemble anything like reliable, Graham is the chairman of the committee, so I assume he knows his own schedule.

I’m pretty sure there was a tweet posted here yesterday or the day prior about Horowitz being scheduled to testify on the 11th. IIRC, it was about how “sources” in the DOJ said that the report’s conclusion would not delegitimize the Russia investigation.

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Dread Pirate  Nov 20, 2019 • 10:06:58pm

pink floyd mastering The Dark Side of the Moon gold disc

I have this MFSL Original Master Recording on gold disc (pictured), and half-speed master album.

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CarolJ  Nov 20, 2019 • 10:57:39pm

Insomniac, and impressed by all of our Democratic candidates. Even Tulsi and Bernie would at least be a step up from Trump-that is, if he’s the nominee next year. I’ve dismissed the notion that someone else would be the Republican nominee as “conspiracy theory lite”, but after this last week, I’ve started to wonder if Trump will even try to campaign, or if he’s well enough to do so. His two oldest rivals, Biden and Bernie both look healthier than him, and more vigorous too.

As for the impeachment, few think that more than one or two Republican Senators will vote to convict. He may say he’s “exonerated” but only Presidential immunity of a sort keeps him out of jail. And the details coming out of the impeachment hearings are just devastating. Between health, and possible legal issues, could he just pack it in?

For a while I read some rumors that Ivanka would be named as a running mate, replacing Pence on the ticket. Crazy, but not impossible. It happened before with Truman, running with FDR, replacing the current VP on the ticket. LBJ decided not to run, but that didn’t mean that others couldn’t be the Democratic nominee, and if Humphrey decided not to run either, the Democrats could have nominated and elected a whole new ticket. Head of the party does not have to be the nominee, like other systems.

It would need no congressional vote to do this. Pence would remain VP until the term runs out, and then if Trump wins another term, she would be VP. Now that Trump has decided to become a resident of Florida, the entire issue of electoral votes in the same state is moot. The Constitution says that a Vice President and President who run from the same state forfeit that state’s Electoral votes. It’s never been tested for a good reason: non-related politicians from the same state are usually rivals, and nobody wanted to forfeit Electoral Votes especially in close races because of putting that rival on the ticket.

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CarolJ  Nov 20, 2019 • 11:04:21pm

If Ivanka or even Trump Jr, replaces Pence on the ticket,could they go all the way and campaign for him by proxy?

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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2019 • 12:01:37am

Another “This did not age well” tweet:

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Dread Pirate  Nov 21, 2019 • 12:06:11am
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 21, 2019 • 12:07:46am

If you have only one or two holdouts then a retrial makes sense. If you’ve lost the clear majority of the jurors in a non violent case and decide to do it all over again then you’re just a massive fucking asshole.

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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2019 • 12:10:21am

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

If you have only one or two holdouts then a retrial makes sense. If you’ve lost the clear majority of the jurors in a non violent case and decide to do it all over again then you’re just a massive fucking asshole.

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I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that the decision rested not with Barr, but with Miller who in turn convinced Trump to make a retrial happen because they needed to “send a message.”

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Jay C  Nov 21, 2019 • 12:15:04am

re: #160 Targetpractice

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that the decision rested not with Barr, but with Miller who in turn convinced Trump to make a retrial happen because they needed to “send a message.”

Looks like they got a pretty clear message back, though.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 21, 2019 • 12:18:22am

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

I’d be willing to bet that if a Democrat gets elected next year and there ends up being a serious investigation into Facebook, and regulations are signed into law as a result, Zuck will either pull the plug on FB or relocate it overseas, somewhere beyond the reach of US regulations.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 21, 2019 • 12:41:24am

re: #162 Dr Lizardo

I’d be willing to bet that if a Democrat gets elected next year and there ends up being a serious investigation into Facebook, and regulations are signed into law as a result, Zuck will either pull the plug on FB or relocate it overseas, somewhere beyond the reach of US regulations.

He can’t really pull the plug because even though he owns a controlling majority of shares the resulting shareholder lawsuit would be enormous, and it’s damned hard to relocate 40K full time employees when most of them can find good alternate jobs right where they are now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 21, 2019 • 12:52:15am

re: #64 BeachDem

Bernie—stop shouting and waving your hands in Joe’s face
Tulsi—go home
Tom—go home
Andrew—go home

That is all (for now)

I am not about to start watching the debates until everyone who should go home has gone home already.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 21, 2019 • 12:55:46am

re: #69 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Though it may be a good thing that Trump is a stupid criminal psychopath, and not a competent one!

I mentioned earlier, but Trump was too ham-handed to create some layers of deniability by simply asking Zelinski to open a series of investigations in which the Bidens would feature prominently He made it clear that all he dared about was an announcement of a Biden investigation, and that brazen approach was what prompted the whistleblowers and witnesses to call him out on it.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2019 • 2:29:50am
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fern01  Nov 21, 2019 • 2:50:19am

re: #162 Dr Lizardo

I’d be willing to bet that if a Democrat gets elected next year and there ends up being a serious investigation into Facebook, and regulations are signed into law as a result, Zuck will either pull the plug on FB or relocate it overseas, somewhere beyond the reach of US regulations.

Zuck will take his money and run. The fools that bought shares will take the loss

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 21, 2019 • 3:47:18am

re: #167 fern01

Zuck will take his money and run. The fools that bought shares will take the loss

Russia would be happy to have him…cut out the middleman.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 21, 2019 • 4:49:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 21, 2019 • 4:51:43am

re: #169 goddamnedfrank

New - Fiona Hill will offer a full-throated rebuttal to the narrative pushed by Trump and his GOP allies about Ukraine’s role meddling in American politics, per source, warning the US to keep an eye on the Kremlin instead.

I was just over at a site full of Putinversteher and their comments on the impeachment proceedings shows that they are turning into full-on Trumpversteher as well, a true triumph of Russia’s information strategy.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 21, 2019 • 4:53:02am

Since time travel is impossible, Greta Thunberg is clearly immortal.

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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2019 • 4:53:58am

re: #171 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Since time travel is impossible, Greta Thunberg is clearly immortal.

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Well, the truth is obvious…she’s a Time Lord.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 21, 2019 • 4:56:26am

re: #171 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Since time travel is impossible, Greta Thunberg is clearly immortal.

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Making a kid an immortal vampire is against the rules!

btw, their hair isn’t the same grandma has double pigtails…..

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:00:12am

re: #117 Ace-o-aces

ace-o-aces
@aceoaces
Let me ask you something Dan. If Trump truly want’s to investigate corruption, he has the FBI, DOJ and several intelligence agencies at his command. Why, then, did he pick this guy for the job?

and,again, second question - if this was all on the up and up, why didnt it simply go through the actual ambassador to the ukraine

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:00:12am

re: #171 NO SMOCKING GUN!

How eery is it that they both wear their hair the same way…A side plait, worn on same side! Time traveller or Greta in a past life? My mind is literally blown

more an example of a somewhat limited gene pool.

I have at least two Doppelgänger that I know of: we met some Scotsmen once camping in Wales who said they have a friend who looks just like me, he even plays banjo and guitar as I do, but he limps on one leg.

I pointed out that I likewise have one leg shorter than another.

So a bit later I met some Irishmen who said they know a fellow near Waterford who plays mandolin and sings, which I also do.

I just asked, “Which leg?”

I suppose we should get together and form a band: Limping Bizkit.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:01:22am
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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:05:40am

Tulsi must be confused that her shtick is being called out in front of God and everyone, Dems have been letting folks like that get away with it forever.

Her parachuting into a FoxNews paid gig might now be questioned.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:09:32am

The only reason for Tulsi’s continuing campaign is to help Trump get re-elected

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:13:20am

re: #172 Targetpractice

Well, the truth is obvious…she’s a Time Lord.

And trying to warn us of our folly.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:17:55am

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

If you have only one or two holdouts then a retrial makes sense. If you’ve lost the clear majority of the jurors in a non violent case and decide to do it all over again then you’re just a massive fucking asshole.

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DOJ is doing everything it can to justify their crimes against humanity.

But the people - even in a place polarized on the issue of illegal border crossings - told the DOJ that they do not agree with their crimes against humanity.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:22:08am

re: #162 Dr Lizardo

I’d be willing to bet that if a Democrat gets elected next year and there ends up being a serious investigation into Facebook, and regulations are signed into law as a result, Zuck will either pull the plug on FB or relocate it overseas, somewhere beyond the reach of US regulations.

FB is opening a facility in London…which was basically buying off officials due to their Brexit fuckery.

Ireland had to tell FB that they forbid any election information when they had the referendum (or whatever it is called there) on abortion.

FB needs to fucking die. Regulate the living shit out of it or make it go dark.

FB is fucking with democracy world wide. Zuck is no different than Murdoch.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:27:52am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only reason for Tulsi’s continuing campaign is to help Trump get re-elected

She is not running for re-election. She’s done… I am sure that is part of the reason that the knives finally came out…

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:28:15am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only reason for Tulsi’s continuing campaign is to help Trump get re-elected

lol, sorry, i misread your comment

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:30:21am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s pretty much how I feel.

So, what do I wake up to in my phone Notifications?

Bloomberg - Gaffes and Skirmishes everyone will be talking about.

HuffPo - Zingers.

WaPo and Vox - Winners and losers. This is OKish. Too horse-racy for me but better than nothing but horse race.

WSJ - Candidates use a lot of filler phrases. Hard hitting bullshit right there.

USA Today did ok…debate analysis and what the real question is…who can beat trump, which really is the only thing any of us care about.

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sagehen  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:30:41am

re: #181 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

FB is opening a facility in London…which was basically buying off officials due to their Brexit fuckery.

Ireland had to tell FB that they forbid any election information when they had the referendum (or whatever it is called there) on abortion.

FB needs to fucking die. Regulate the living shit out of it or make it go dark.

FB is fucking with democracy world wide. Zuck is no different than Murdoch.

It’s not a coincidence he’s been learning Mandarin.

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sagehen  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:31:56am

When do the hearings start? Do I have time to go out for breakfast?

(don’t want to miss a single word)

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Stanley Sea  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:34:04am

re: #171 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Since time travel is impossible, Greta Thunberg is clearly immortal.

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I saw that the other day & just stared at it for awhile,

Incredible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:34:21am

re: #184 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s pretty much how I feel.

I am waiting for the field to narrow down to three or four (I guess it is inevitable, barring another heart attack that Bernie will be among them) and then start paying attention to who I will support in the primaries.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:36:41am

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:39:31am

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plansbandc  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:42:03am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have many clones. Had to change my hair to distinguish myself. :D

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:42:43am

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:44:06am
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plansbandc  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:45:28am
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:48:25am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:49:34am

re: #193 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

Indeed it is….I had to doublecheck to make sure it wasn’t from the Watergate era.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:50:44am

re: #195 jaunte

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Shut up President Warcriminal Enabler. I bet killing civilians gets him giddy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:51:21am

re: #195 jaunte

BREAKING: 5-time draft-dodger attacks military.

The Republicans are now the “War Criminal Party.”

Trump does not understand the Chain of Command.

He is used to giving orders and having people bend over backwards to fulfill them, even if it means undoing what he ordered a few days beforehand…

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:51:30am

Fiona hill’s opening statement is out

Looks like she’s not taking any shit from anyone

Re: some lawmakers appear to believe Ukraine, not Russia, sought to interfere in 2016 election:

“This is a fictional narrative.”

“I refuse to be part of an effort to legitimize an alternate narrative that the Ukrainian government is a U.S. adversary, and that Ukraine—not Russia—attacked us in 2016. These fictions are harmful even if they are deployed for purely domestic political purposes

Career diplomats. Gotta love em.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:53:07am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

Indeed it is….I had to doublecheck to make sure it wasn’t from the Watergate era.

Their editorial is typical nyt p. It’s about slow walking the inquiry. At least the front page folks had the nerve to do this right

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:54:23am

re: #194 plansbandc

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lol

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:54:31am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

Indeed it is….I had to doublecheck to make sure it wasn’t from the Watergate era.

Then again

New York Times: “We Followed the President’s Orders”

Washington Post: “Diplomat Acknowledges Quid Pro Quo”

Wall Street Journal: “Envoy Says Trump Directed Effort”

USA Today: “Everyone Was In the Loop”

You gotta scroll way down on fox to see the story
Their headlienis the debate

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:56:04am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump does not understand the Chain of Command.

He is used to giving orders and having people bend over backwards to fulfill them, even if it means undoing what he ordered a few days beforehand…

Yeah he’s quite the demander.
Not at all an inspiring leader nor a persuader

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jeffreyw  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:56:22am

Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:57:53am

re: #199 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

Fiona hill’s opening statement is out

Looks like she’s not taking any shit from anyone

Re: some lawmakers appear to believe Ukraine, not Russia, sought to interfere in 2016 election:

Career diplomats. Gotta love em.

They’ll try that deep state bullshit but what they call the deep state is what shits like Rudy and his mobbed friends were doing.

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:58:17am

Republicans are still trying with those poorly designed and conceived posters.
“101 Days Since Adam Schiff lerned IdEntiTy uf WhissleBlowr!!!”

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Citizen K  Nov 21, 2019 • 5:59:08am

And thus we see why Kamala ceased to get any purchase after that 2nd debate: they deigned only to define her by that debate alone and her perceived ‘failures’ and refused to update any expectations or give credit for anything else after that. Her status was forever set in stone.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 21, 2019 • 6:00:16am

re: #207 Citizen K

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And thus we see why Kamala ceased to get any purchase after that 2nd debate: they deigned only to define her by that debate alone and her perceived ‘failures’ and refused to update any expectations or give credit for anything else after that. Her status was forever set in stone.

Yeah it’s obvious that certain people don’t want to amplify Kamala and it sucks.

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Citizen K  Nov 21, 2019 • 6:01:28am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s obvious that certain people don’t want to amplify Kamala and it sucks.

Like I said a few days ago when they lifted Kamala up as ruining chances for any POC Woman in the future, they remembered her existence only to tear her down again.

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lawhawk  Nov 21, 2019 • 6:02:53am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

The GOP will continue to distance themselves from reality, and Fiona Hill is testifying under oath today. Her testimony will continue to corroborate what we already know that everyone in Trumpworld was in on Trump’s attempt to bribe/extort Ukraine into announcing an investigation of Bidens by withholding military aid that they desperately needed.

Expect Trump to attack her because she’s bringing the fire.

Trump wanted the investigation to be announced because it would hurt Biden. He didn’t care if the investigation went anywhere. The announcement would be sufficient. Trump didn’t give a shit about corruption, except where he could profit from it.

Now we also learn that Lev Parnas was involved in setting up a meeting between Nunes and Ukrainian officials.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 21, 2019 • 6:03:37am

re: #209 Citizen K

Like I said a few days ago when they lifted Kamala up as ruining chances for any POC Woman in the future, they remembered her existence only to tear her down again.

It’s so frustrating because she does offer a lot to the conversation. She’s progressive yet not dogmatic. Forward thinking but practical.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 21, 2019 • 6:11:42am

re: #202 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

I’m sure there’s ongoing debate at FNC up in the exec boardroom about how to spin this. I mean, sure, Hannity has been reduced to doing a Kevin Bacon “All is well!” impression, but it’s pretty obvious to anyone that he’s living in his own alternate reality.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 21, 2019 • 6:26:38am

re: #181 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

FB is fucking with democracy world wide. Zuck is no different than Murdoch.

This is where the current crop of Dem candidates is missing the mark - they should be running on protecting the individual privacy of net users by creating a US version of the EU’s GDPR, but with more teeth.

I temporarily signed up on Facebook, and it was eye-opening as the reality of shadow profiles was staring me in the face once I got on. I quickly closed my account and refuse to use it.

Decades ago on a 1970s “60 Minutes” it was the Automated Clearing House that was cited as the biggest threat to privacy - now it’s the FAANGs (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, and Microsoft) that are our biggest threat.

If you are going to do a General Strike, the FAANGs need to be the target of such an action.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2019 • 6:30:43am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s obvious that certain people don’t want to amplify Kamala and it sucks.

As a woman it infuriates me.

A woman at the top of the dem ticket is going to be hard, really hard, because women have it much harder than (1) white men, then (2) any other men. Fact of life.

Black men got the vote before women did.

It’s like we barely matter, have to work 100x harder, have to prove what where others (meaning men) are assumed. Where men are strong and assertive, women are bitches. We don’t fucking smile enough.

Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way a man hater and I think you all know that, but this is just a fact of life.

Christ, fucking Pakistan elected a woman decades ago. Yet here we are.

Smile gals…and for god’s sake be nice. Otherwise, you’re invisible (see Kamala and Amy both).

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2019 • 6:32:34am

re: #213 Eric The Fruit Bat

This is where the current crop of Dem candidates is missing the mark - they should be running on protecting the individual privacy of net users by creating a US version of the EU’s GDPR, but with more teeth.

I temporarily signed up on Facebook, and it was eye-opening as the reality of shadow profiles was staring me in the face once I got on. I quickly closed my account and refuse to use it.

Decades ago on a 1970s “60 Minutes” it was the Automated Clearing House that was cited as the biggest threat to privacy - now it’s the FAANGs (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, and Microsoft) that are our biggest threat.

If you are going to do a General Strike, the FAANGs need to be the target of such an action.

But donchano that regulations are bad? /dripping

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sagehen  Nov 21, 2019 • 6:42:19am

re: #214 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s like we barely matter, have to work 100x harder, have to prove what where others (meaning men) are assumed. Where men are strong and assertive, women are bitches. We don’t fucking smile enough.

Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way a man hater and I think you all know that, but this is just a fact of life.

Try to imagine a woman behaving as Kavenaugh did at his hearing. I dare you, just try.

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retired cynic  Nov 21, 2019 • 8:28:56am

re: #207 Citizen K

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And thus we see why Kamala ceased to get any purchase after that 2nd debate: they deigned only to define her by that debate alone and her perceived ‘failures’ and refused to update any expectations or give credit for anything else after that. Her status was forever set in stone.

They are CRAP


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Wonder Woman 1984 TrailerStars Gal Gadot, Pedro Pascal, Kristen Wiig. Directed by Patty Jenkins.
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House Votes to Back Two-State Solution in Middle East WASHINGTON (CN) — Rebuking President Donald Trump, the House of Representatives on Friday passed a resolution supporting a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Smoke rises from Gaza City on May 5, 2019, after Israel launched over 350 airstrikes ...
Thanos
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California Urged to Rethink 40 Years of ‘Piecemeal’ Freshwater Protections Ultimately the drought had relatively minor impacts on most urban Californians who suddenly had to do things like let their lawns go brown or – gasp – ask for water while dining out. But under the surface, 18 fish ...
Thanos
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VULFPECK /// Back Pocket (Live at Madison Square Garden)VULFPECK /// Back Pocket (Live at Madison Square Garden)buy on vinyl → vuuulf.com
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EVGENY POBOZHIY QUINTET - Stranger Thoughts Evgeny Pobozhiy Quintet - Stranger Thoughts Evgeny Pobozhiy - guitar, compositionAnton Chekurov - saxNikolai Sidorenko - keysSergey Korchagin - bassAlexander Kulkov - drumsRecorded live @ Blues-minus studio, MoscowViktor Farafontov - sound engineerAndrey Galyamin - videoSergey Gasparyan - mixing2019 ...
Thanos
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 191201 It was an ‘easy’ unchallenging weekend. While low key, we got a lot done. We worked on the upper wall, setting and pounding in the 72 bags we dropped in last week. There are now two courses done completely ...
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