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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:42:50am

What life looks like in countries that are governed by actual sane, smart people.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:43:46am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:44:23am
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William Lewis  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:45:30am

Just want to say that I appreciate how tolerant you all have been of my photographic postings here this past month. My photography has been instrumental in keeping me something vaguely resembling sane :D

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:46:50am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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I guess they didn’t see where he retweeted about the “breaking news” about the “new witnesses” in the Reade story.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:48:16am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:49:44am

How about a nice cozy teahouse for today?
(Sonnenburg Gardens in Canandaigua, NY.)

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Jay C  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:49:50am

From last thread:

re: #514 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America did not have large, international stock corporations when the Constitution was drafted. Most businesses were small affairs, owned and run by one person or family. Which meant that unions were painted as gangs using undue leverage on an individual.

So not much has changed: except for a revised definition of “individual”, this is how most conservatives/Republicans still view unions….

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:52:55am
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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:54:08am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:55:18am

A brain and a set of jumper cables walk into a bar. The bartender refuses to serve them. When asked why the bartender says, you brain are out of your head and the cables are looking to start something.

(Courtesy of a friend on FB)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:55:49am

meanwhile, defying the governor in North Carolina:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:58:01am

re: #10 teleskiguy

What is that??

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:58:28am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile, defying the governor in North Carolina:

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What’s this “we” business, white man?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:59:17am
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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:59:23am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile, defying the governor in North Carolina:

“We’re going at the wall at 100mph, but at least we’ve stopped accelerating.”

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:02:49am

re: #13 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

An open penstock at the bottom of a dam.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:03:19am

Hung way late on the last thread:

re: #508 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Before 1900, no-one thought that government should interfere in the economy at all, so there’s that. Even the Progressives only thought about breaking monopolies and regulating the quality and contents of merchandise.

I get really tired of people (GENERIC) who seem to think everything from government to technology to people’s attitudes is unchanged since the beginning of time.

re: #527 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I was simply referring to how Republicans treated the economy as it existed in each presidency.

No matter how the economy was viewed in what era, Republicans screwed it up. Regardless of the economic setup, the GOP has always been the party of big business since the end of the Civil War. Thus their economic policies, regardless of how people viewed the economy, tended to favour big businesses at the expense of everyone else. Hence all the panics and economic collapses.

Collapsing the silver industry by the GOP lead to a Populist Party governor elected in Colorado. When Gov. Waite sought to remove corrupt officials from Denver installed by the GOP, they used gangsters and criminals to barricade themselves into city hall. The governor had to use the state militia to dislodge them. Following that, the GOP fought in court all the way to the state supreme court to argue Gov. Waite did not have the authority to remove corrupt city commissioners (the court ruled in favour of the governor).

Protestants aligned with the GOP formed a protective society, the purpose of which was to force businesses to fire Catholics. In response, the Catholic Church infiltrated the organisation to out corrupt GOP officials leading it.

The Populist Party of the XIX promoted collectivism and labour with the help of people like Eugene Debs, and in 1892 won four states in the Presidential election (the idea government should interfere in the economy). The party collapsed with Williams Jennings Bryant taking over their message and making it part of the Democratic Party platform.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:03:51am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:04:08am

re: #17 teleskiguy

An open penstock at the bottom of a dam.

Is that normal? To have it open? I’ve never seen anything like that before.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:04:57am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

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Which increases the likelihood (at least in my mind) that Repubs either are or will soon be moving to block any future lockdowns in the name of the Magic Line.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:08:05am

The impact on the American economy will be very, very, very small, if any… We really haven’t seen any economic impact. There may be some out there. Our own internal numbers say maybe two-tenths of a percent in the first quarter, but that’s not going to end this growth cycle.”

— White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow, on Fox News, February 7, 2020

Off by a factor of like 25
Soooo close

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:08:37am
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Teddy's Person  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:09:12am

re: #4 William Lewis

Just want to say that I appreciate how tolerant you all have been of my photographic postings here this past month. My photography has been instrumental in keeping me something vaguely resembling sane :D

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I’ve not just tolerated your photos, I’ve enjoyed them. Keep sharing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:09:18am

Amash isn’t going to fucking Jill Stein all of us, is he?

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William Lewis  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:09:33am

re: #11 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

A brain and a set of jumper cables walk into a bar. The bartender refuses to serve them. When asked why the bartender says, you brain are out of your head and the cables are looking to start something.

(Courtesy of a friend on FB)

Oh, man, my cat was just sick on the carpet.

I don’t think she’s feline well…

(I have an app of dad jokes ;)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:09:35am

re: #24 Teddy’s Person

I’ve not just tolerated your photos, I’ve enjoyed them. Keep sharing.

Seconded.

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:10:14am

re: #4 William Lewis

Did you check to see if there was a sign saying “abandon hope all ye who enter here”?

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:10:17am

re: #20 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s normal, yes. They get opened when the water behind the dam gets too close to the top of the dam. This is the Hoover Dam in 1998 when Lake Mead was mere inches from the top of the dam.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:10:18am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Germany’s not the only example:

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:11:28am

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

Amash isn’t going to fucking Jill Stein all of us, is he?

There’s nobody who’s going to vote for Amash that really wanted to vote for Biden. I guarantee you that any of those that vote for him would have found a reason to vote for Trump.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:12:59am

re: #26 William Lewis

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:13:03am

re: #29 teleskiguy

It’s normal, yes. They get opened when the water behind the dam gets too close to the top of the dam. This is the Hoover Dam in 1998 when Lake Mead was mere inches from the top of the dam.

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Not something they really have to worry about at Lake Mead anymore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:14:31am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:15:50am

re: #1 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

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What life looks like in countries that are governed by actual sane, smart people.

As it turns out, women.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:16:28am

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

Amash isn’t going to fucking Jill Stein all of us, is he?

I have very serious doubts that he will. His biggest appeal is to those closeted Republicans who want to believe that the only thing wrong with their party is the troll at 1600 Penn Ave.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:16:29am

re: #35 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yes. Isn’t that something? :)

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Jay C  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:16:45am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile, defying the governor in North Carolina:

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Well, I hope, for the sake of the citizens of Gaston County, that their Commissioners are correct: though I seriously doubt it. That “Promise” they’ve published has (IMO) several huge flaws in it, mainly:

1. They posit (doubtfully) that their “distancing” measures have “flattened the curve” for (one presumes) new infections [no numbers provided, and even if correct, does not take into account any future cases]
2. Even if they are correct in postulating that their current stay-at-home measures have slowed the spread of COVID-19, - and stabilized their hospital usage - why they think immediately relaxing said measures wouldn’t have negative effects is a mystery.[“flattening the curve” does NOT mean “virus has gone away”]
3. While they pointedly connect their “re-opening” policy to maintenance of “social distancing practice”, “cleaning and disinfection requirement” and “maximum capacity” regulations, they offer no hints whatsoever about how they plan (or even IF they plan) to enforce these rules.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:17:27am

Have not seen an economic stimulus payment, so I went and puttered about the IRS site. Turns out that the key for receiving a payment is whether my 2018 or 2019 income is used for that calculation. IRS says I am eligible, but my 2019 data appears to have not been processed yet. So I’ll hold off since I suspect putting in the 2018 data will result in a “We own you nothing, good day sir!” response.

That I’m even doing this implies that I don’t really need the money, which is probably true. And my intention upon getting it was to give at least half to the local food bank since I’m pretty sure there are people in the county who would benefit from it. (And I might well make a donation of that scope in advance anyways.)

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:18:02am

re: #33 KGxvi

Not something they really have to worry about at Lake Mead anymore.

Sadly, this is true. I visited the dam in 2016, and it was depressing seeing that enormous bathtub ring around the lake. They might not *ever* open the penstocks again.

Some pictures I took.

Instagram

A tunnel inside the Hoover Dam.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:18:42am

re: #29 teleskiguy

It’s normal, yes. They get opened when the water behind the dam gets too close to the top of the dam. This is the Hoover Dam in 1998 when Lake Mead was mere inches from the top of the dam.

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Also when they want more river water for fish to spawn.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:19:00am

re: #40 teleskiguy

Sadly, this is true. I visited the dam in 2016, and it was depressing seeing that enormous bathtub ring around the lake. They might not *ever* open the penstocks again.

Some pictures I took.

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Have New Vegas flashbacks.

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William Lewis  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:19:03am

re: #28 KGxvi

Did you check to see if there was a sign saying “abandon hope all ye who enter here”?

“Midway upon the journey of our life,
I found myself within a forest dark,
For the straightforward path had been lost.” ?

Fortunately for me, there was a well marked trail that day!

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:19:13am

re: #31 Belafon

There’s nobody who’s going to vote for Amash that really wanted to vote for Biden. I guarantee you that any of those that vote for him would have found a reason to vote for Trump.

That’s my hunch as well. And as I’ve been saying, any vote that is not for Trump that would have otherwise been for him is a win.

In 2016, Johnson may have tilted a couple states to Clinton (depending on how you view it). But in New Mexico, Johnson’s vote share was larger than Clinton’s margin. Same is true in Colorado, Maine statewide, New Hampshire, Minnesota, and Nevada. That’s 36 electoral votes that Clinton won with pluralities at the state level.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:21:54am
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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:21:54am

re: #40 teleskiguy

Sadly, this is true. I visited the dam in 2016, and it was depressing seeing that enormous bathtub ring around the lake. They might not *ever* open the penstocks again.

Some pictures I took.

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With the growth of the Vegas metro area, it was probably inevitable. I have an aunt and uncle that live out there and they used to have a boat at Mead. I remember going in the 90s and then again in the mid-aughts and you could already see the drop in water levels. Can’t imagine it’s got much better since.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:22:00am

Democrats need to quit letting McConnell gaslight them and learn to play hardball. vox.com

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:22:25am

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

Also when they want more river water for fish to spawn.

The Bureau of Reclamation periodically opens the penstocks on Glen Canyon Dam to stir up the sediment in the Grand Canyon, temporary solution to revive the river ecosystem.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:22:28am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:23:01am

President Trump declared Tuesday that the U.S. will be able to carry out five million coronavirus tests per day, but the top official overseeing testing strategy told Time earlier in the day that goal wasn’t feasible given current technology.

Admiral Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary of health who is in charge of the government’s testing response, said that “there is absolutely no way on Earth, on this planet or any other planet, that we can do 20 million tests a day, or even five million tests a day

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:23:38am

re: #47 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Democrats need to quit letting McConnell gaslight them and learn to play hardball. vox.com

I really don’t understand why House leadership doesn’t ever get in front of things by passing a House Bill and then putting the pressure on McConnell and Trump to argue against it.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:24:44am

re: #51 KGxvi

I really don’t understand why House leadership doesn’t ever get in front of things by passing a House Bill and then putting the pressure on McConnell and Trump to argue against it.

Because the media will simply ignore it that while McConnell lets said bill rot on his desk along with all the other stuff the House has passed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:25:55am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

You’re living rent-free in their heads, Mr. Johnson. You seem to have enough space you could have an AirBNB.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:27:29am

re: #4 William Lewis

Just want to say that I appreciate how tolerant you all have been of my photographic postings here this past month. My photography has been instrumental in keeping me something vaguely resembling sane :D

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tolerate. I enjoy it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:27:42am

So now Mr. Thomas “6 months” Friedman is pushing the Sweden’s handling of coronavirus to encourage a quick reopening of business in this country. It’s a real challenge, once he gets an idea in his head, to have him reconsider and change course. His wealth insulates him from the tragedies of ordinary people, but certainly helps him parrot the line of billionaire businessmen.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:28:34am

re: #4 William Lewis

I’ve enjoyed them as well as others posted by the various Lizards. Thanks and please keep posting them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:28:38am

re: #1 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

‘Some countries talked about herd immunity as a strategy. In New Zealand we never ever considered that. Herd immunity would have meant 10s of 10000s of New Zealanders dying & I simply would not have tolerated that’

Today New Zealand returns to work

Not fair to compare an isolated island country of less than five million with the USA or Europe, but they nonetheless did an exemplary job.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:28:39am

re: #55 Hecuba’s daughter

So now Mr. Thomas “6 months” Friedman is pushing the Sweden’s handling of coronavirus to encourage a quick reopening of business in this country. It’s a real challenge, once he gets an idea in his head, to have him reconsider and change course. His wealth insulates him from the tragedies of ordinary people, but certainly helps him parrot the line of billionaire businessmen.

He does know that Sweden has seen a huge spike in their fatality rate, right?

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:28:51am

CL’ed on the previous thread:

PRETZEL THREAD:

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:29:29am

made of glass

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:29:33am

Apply liberally

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:30:38am

re: #8 Jay C

From last thread:

So not much has changed: except for a revised definition of “individual”, this is how most conservatives/Republicans still view unions….

They really have us convinced that “individual freedom” means the right to negotiate one-to-one with multi-billion-dollar international corporations for terms of employment, insurance coverage or financial services…

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i(m)p(each)sos  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:30:44am

re: #7 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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How about a nice cozy teahouse for today?
(Sonnenburg Gardens in Canandaigua, NY.)

Half an hour from casa ipsos!

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:31:16am

re: #55 Hecuba’s daughter

So now Mr. Thomas “6 months” Friedman is pushing the Sweden’s handling of coronavirus to encourage a quick reopening of business in this country. It’s a real challenge, once he gets an idea in his head, to have him reconsider and change course. His wealth insulates him from the tragedies of ordinary people, but certainly helps him parrot the line of billionaire businessmen.

His excuse, always available: “A taxi driver told me…”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:31:25am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not fair to compare an isolated island country of four million with the USA or Europe, but they nonetheless did an exemplary job.

Is fair to compare us to S.Korea, which has fewer number of deaths total than occurs in NY every damn day.

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:31:54am

re: #46 KGxvi

With the growth of the Vegas metro area, it was probably inevitable.

Both times I’ve driven to Vegas from Colorado (a very beautiful drive) I’d get past the Virgin River Gorge and see that glow of the city and I thought to myself “That shouldn’t be there.”

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:32:26am

First production run of the masks my wife designed and produced is in hand now - these are, in my completely un-biased estimation, 40 million times better than the pretty crummy mask a local dispensary sold me for $20.

Brother-in-law wearing one of the masks my wife made.
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Teddy's Person  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:32:32am

re: #60 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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I am fascinated by glass art, especially glass blowing. There’s a series on Netflix called Blown Away that’s a competition show with glass artists. I really enjoyed the show. The winner received a $60,000 prize and an artist residency at the Corning Museum of Glass. So, it had some pretty serious glass artists as contestants.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:32:40am

re: #64 Sherlock Hound

His excuse, always available: “A taxi driver told me…”

But never believe bartenders. Especially if they get elected to office as Democrats.
/

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:32:42am

re: #52 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Because the media will simply ignore it that while McConnell lets said bill rot on his desk along with all the other stuff the House has passed.

Then they get members of the House to go on every show possible and hammer home the point that they passed a bill and that McConnell and Trump won’t consider it. Like, this really isn’t fucking difficult.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:33:03am

re: #58 Targetpractice

He does know that Sweden has seen a huge spike in their fatality rate, right?

Some of us may die, but that is a sacrifice he is willing to make.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:33:27am

re: #30 Belafon

Germany’s not the only example:

Wingnuts are all over that saying LOOK AT SWEDEN!!1!2uno!!

Whatever benefit Sweden is getting is because Swedes trust their government and institutions.

Conservatives in this country are famous for not doing precisely that (thanks, Reagan).

I imagine Gov. Kim Reynolds in Iowa is about to preside over an epidemic in that state, since she’s trying to do the same thing.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:33:32am

re: #68 Teddy’s Person

I am fascinated by glass art, especially glass blowing. There’s a series on Netflix called Blown Away that’s a competition show with glass artists. I really enjoyed the show. The winner received a $60,000 prize and an artist residency at the Corning Museum of Glass. So, it had some pretty serious glass artists as contestants.

That photo is from the Corning Museum of Glass.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:34:37am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They really have us convinced that “individual freedom” means the right to negotiate one-to-one with multi-billion-dollar international corporations for terms of employment, insurance coverage or financial services…

It’s Lochnertastic (shamelessly stolen from Erik Loomis over at LGM).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:34:44am

Does Mcconnell really think a bill that insulates Businesses from being liable for sick and dying employees will have any chance to make it through the House?

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:34:47am

re: #50 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

And the primary reason we need to do that kind of testing is because Trump slow rolled testing when we had a handful of cases and could try to contact trace. Now? We need many times the level of testing we’re doing, and it still wont be enough.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:36:19am

re: #58 Targetpractice

He does know that Sweden has seen a huge spike in their fatality rate, right?

You think he really cares?

It has come with a high cost, though. As USA Today noted: “Sweden has a population of 10 million people, about twice as large as its nearest Scandinavian neighbors. As of April 28, the country’s Covid-19 death toll reached 2,274, about five times higher than in Denmark and 11 times higher than in Norway.” Nursing home residents account for more than a third of all deaths.

Tegnell said: “There has always been a problem with running these homes safely in Sweden going back a long time. That’s something we are taking advice on now and that we intend to do better on.”
……
Here’s the stone-cold truth: There are only different hellish ways to adapt to a pandemic and save both lives and livelihoods. I raise Sweden not because I think it has found the magic balance — it is way too soon to tell — but because I think we should be debating all the different ways and costs of acquiring immunity.
……
Herd immunity “has historically been nature’s way of ending pandemics,” added Dr. David Katz, the public health physician who helped kick off the debate in an essay he wrote in The New York Times on March 20 and in a follow-up interview we did together.

“We need to bend with her forces — even when we as a species are responsible for unleashing them,” Katz said. That means a designed strategy, based on risk profiles, of phasing back to work those least vulnerable, so we gradually cultivate the protection of herd immunity — “while concentrating our health services and social services on protecting those most vulnerable” until we can sound the all-clear.

As long as he’s not in the demographic at risk, let’s go for herd immunity the brutal way.

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Thanos  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:36:22am

Here’s the model my wife is making, she’s using tight knit cotton broadcloth, three layers.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:36:41am

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Does Mcconnell really think a bill that insulates Businesses from being liable for sick and dying employees will have any chance to make it through the House?

Honestly? Yes. Why? Because as noted by the Vox link up above, he’ll link it to something that he’ll sell as a “concession” to Dem “demands,” then expect the media to do the heavy-lifting of portraying any delay in the bill’s passage as Dems “blocking vital aid.”

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Thanos  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:37:12am

re: #78 Thanos

& I don’t want to hear any comments about the Owlbrows.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:37:32am

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Does Mcconnell really think a bill that insulates Businesses from being liable for sick and dying employees will have any chance to make it through the House?

Read the link I posted. He will reluctantly make a deal to give away taxpayer money to undeserving state and local governments to get much needed relief for red blooded American businesses. And the Democrats will declare it a success of bipartisan negotiation.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:37:54am

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Does Mcconnell really think a bill that insulates Businesses from being liable for sick and dying employees will have any chance to make it through the House?

Maybe not. But they can then clog all the shows with Republicans claiming that the Democrats are stopping relief funds from getting to hard working Americans. And Chuck Todd and company will just lick it up.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:37:54am

re: #78 Thanos

And now I can live the dream of going to a bank, and demanding that they hand over money (it’s mine, I swear!)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:38:49am

re: #70 KGxvi

Then they get members of the House to go on every show possible and hammer home the point that they passed a bill and that McConnell and Trump won’t consider it. Like, this really isn’t fucking difficult.

Which requires the political shows to actually have on Democrats.

When Republicans are in power, they invite Republicans to explain their positions.

When Democrats are in power, they invite Republicans to explain why Democratic policies are wrong.

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Thanos  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:40:07am

re: #76 lawhawk

And the primary reason we need to do that kind of testing is because Trump slow rolled testing when we had a handful of cases and could try to contact trace. Now? We need many times the level of testing we’re doing, and it still wont be enough.

At some point it goes beyond contact trace, if this gets too out of hand the authorities will have to go to hard quarantine instead of “self Isolation”. I can’t imagine how loud the caterwauling will become then.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:40:16am

re: #83 lawhawk

And now I can live the dream of going to a bank, and demanding that they hand over money (it’s mine, I swear!)

The other day I handed some cash to a cashier, who was handling the money rather like it was infected. “Don’t worry” I said. “All the cash around here is laundered anyway”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:40:59am

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Does Mcconnell really think a bill that insulates Businesses from being liable for sick and dying employees will have any chance to make it through the House?

Will it also include arresting employees who go on strike for better working conditions?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:41:26am

Don’t think I saw a glass onion though.

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mmmirele  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:41:38am

Ok, so y’all remember how the US Department of Defense released some UFO videos the other day? This is from Japan:

Although Defense Minister Taro Kono doesn’t believe in UFOs, he wants the Self-Defense Forces to have a plan in place for any encounter—just in case.

Kono made the comment at a news conference on April 28 after the U.S. Defense Department declassified and released videos shot by Navy pilots pointing to the possibility that UFOs exist.

“We would like to establish procedures in the event an encounter is made with a UFO,” Kono said.

He indicated his ministry and the SDF would begin preparing for such an event.

asahi.com

There’s so much I could say here, but I’m just going to keep my mouth firmly shut.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:41:55am

re: #86 Rightwingconspirator

It depends on the way the cashier takes the statement.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:42:23am

re: #70 KGxvi

Then they get members of the House to go on every show possible and hammer home the point that they passed a bill and that McConnell and Trump won’t consider it. Like, this really isn’t fucking difficult.

If they get invited.

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Thanos  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:42:26am

re: #86 Rightwingconspirator

The other day I handed some cash to a cashier, who was handling the money rather like it was infected. “Don’t worry” I said. “All the cash around here is laundered anyway”.

We rub each side of each bill with a lysol wipe after we get to the car until they are thoroughly damp.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:43:38am

re: #86 Rightwingconspirator

The other day I handed some cash to a cashier, who was handling the money rather like it was infected. “Don’t worry” I said. “All the cash around here is laundered anyway”.

Honestly, I hate handling cash even when there’s not a pandemic going on. But now? Now it just makes me inwardly cringe everytime someone walks up to the desk to hand me cash for a single item from the lobby “market.” The salt on the wound is when I tell them the (inflated) price and then bitch to me about how “expensive” everything is.

I finally got tired of it the other day and pointedly told one of them that there was a Wawa right across the road from the hotel if they were unhappy with the price. The response? “I don’t want to walk that far.” GAH!

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:43:44am

re: #85 Thanos

At some point it goes beyond contact trace, if this gets too out of hand the authorities will have to go to hard quarantine instead of “self Isolation”. I can’t imagine how loud the caterwauling will become then.

Hospitals are going to be stuck in this new normal, where they’ve got fridge trucks lined up to deal with covid19 patients who died, while trying to function “normally”. It guarantees more patients and staff get sickened and die, and it’s as though the GOP is pushing to get things right up to the breaking point of the health care delivery system, instead of doing everything possible to save as many lives as possible in the shortest time possible.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:43:48am

re: #92 Thanos

We rub each side of each bill with a lysol wipe after we get to the car until they are thoroughly damp.

I think the only cash transaction I’ve done in the past month was paying for a latte with a $5. And I told the barista to keep the change.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:44:05am

re: #89 mmmirele

I do believe in the existence of extraterrestrial life.

But let’s be clear here: A UFO is NOT necessary something of alien origin.

Unidentified Flying Object.

That means something in the air that someone does not recognize. There are plenty of man made flying objects that can be labeled “Unidentified” if the person watching them doesn’t know what the hell they’re looking at.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:44:14am

re: #90 PhillyPretzel

It depends on the way the cashier takes the statement.

When I was in the general store this morning, I asked the proprietor if he’d rather I use my credit card. He said “no, they aren’t reliable.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:44:34am

re: #89 mmmirele

Ok, so y’all remember how the US Department of Defense released some UFO videos the other day? This is from Japan:

asahi.com

There’s so much I could say here, but I’m just going to keep my mouth firmly shut.

Unexplained aerial phenomenon are just that. Unexplained. Leaves a lot of possibilities open.

But the human mind is quick to fill in the gaps, all the way to abduction and forced anal probes…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:45:10am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GMTA.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:45:36am

I got through to EDD! Never so happy to hear music on hold. No human yet but fingers crossed.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:45:47am

re: #81 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Read the link I posted. He will reluctantly make a deal to give away taxpayer money to undeserving state and local governments to get much needed relief for red blooded American businesses. And the Democrats will declare it a success of bipartisan negotiation. And liberals will whine that Democrats were the problem in the whole thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:46:00am

re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg

I do believe in the existence of extraterrestrial life.

I believe in the possibility of such, but lacking any sort of solid, verifiable evidence, I still relegate it to the realm of speculation and creative fiction.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:46:15am

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Does Mcconnell really think a bill that insulates Businesses from being liable for sick and dying employees will have any chance to make it through the House?

It’s a poison pill and he knows it. He wants it added to kill any more stimulus bills.

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Thanos  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:46:19am

I’ll be back this evening, the back yard has gone to rain forest and I’ve got weeds to whack.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:46:33am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡

When I was in the general store this morning, I asked the proprietor if he’d rather I use my credit card. He said “no, they aren’t reliable.”

Surprised that in 2020 there are still stores that don’t take credit cards.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:47:06am

re: #67 Jebediah, RBG

First production run of the masks my wife designed and produced is in hand now - these are, in my completely un-biased estimation, 40 million times better than the pretty crummy mask a local dispensary sold me for $20.

[Embedded content]

Very nice! Well done!

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:47:52am

re: #105 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Surprised that in 2020 there are still stores that don’t take credit cards.

It’s 1920 where Anymouse lives.

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Jay C  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:48:09am

re: #67 Jebediah, RBG

First production run of the masks my wife designed and produced is in hand now - these are, in my completely un-biased estimation, 40 million times better than the pretty crummy mask a local dispensary sold me for $20.

[Embedded content]

Very cool. Are you selling them?

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:48:28am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I believe in the possibility of such, but lacking any sort of solid, verifiable evidence, I still relegate to the realm of speculation and creative fiction.

In light of current scientific understanding, the possibility of life on other planets is almost a near certainty. But the idea that they are crossing vast intergalactic distances just to study us is far-fetched. If we ever see evidence of life from beyond our planet, it will likely be in the form of robotic probes. And if we’re lucky, all they’ll want to do is scan our planet and then leave. Because the alternative is they’re here for something, and the odds that we’ll pose any sort of threat to them are…remote.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:48:39am

re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg

I do too. Just not in the idea they come around the earth. Or our star. My money is that the “Tic Tac” is a breakthrough drone system from DARPA or something like that. Or a flat out glitch in the very very advanced integrated air defenses and new radars.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:49:11am

re: #109 Targetpractice

In light of current scientific understanding, the possibility of life on other planets is almost a near certainty. But the idea that they are crossing vast intergalactic distances just to study us is far-fetched. If we ever see evidence of life from beyond our planet, it will likely be in the form of robotic probes. And if we’re lucky, all they’ll want to do is scan our planet and then leave. Because the alternative is they’re here for something, and the odds that we’ll pose any sort of threat to them are…remote.

Did you say probes?

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Jay C  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:49:27am

re: #107 Belafon

It’s 1920 where Anymouse lives.

Far-Western Nebraska is in a special time zone (UTC -50 years).
;)

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:49:29am

This… this would make a lot of sense…

Hopefully after the November elections are over and the Orange Menace is out, the next year is gonna be like this:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:49:56am

re: #105 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Surprised that in 2020 there are still stores that don’t take credit cards.

Most stores here don’t take them because of the extremely high cost of Internet service here.

Our store in the village does take them, primarily from tourists on US-26, but he prefers cash.

The bar also takes credit cards, but prefers money.

The Post Office takes credit, but only has limited cash on hand for change if you use money.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:49:58am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unexplained aerial phenomenon are just that. Unexplained. Leaves a lot of possibilities open.

But the human mind is quick to fill in the gaps, all the way to abduction and forced anal probes…

Even before UFOs, there were monsters and demons supposedly doing those things. We just replaced them with ETs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:50:04am

This… this would make a lot of sense…

Hopefully after the November elections are over and the Orange Menace is out, the next year is gonna be like this:

…soundtrack by Jandek

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:50:25am

re: #105 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Surprised that in 2020 there are still stores that don’t take credit cards.

Have come across a number of small businesses that are still cash only. My local dry cleaner is one.

Even less surprised for Anymouse’s area since he indicates that internet and thus banking interactions are probably slower and less reliable. And by being cash only you avoid risk of non-payment due to check bouncing or credit card company refusing payment for some reason. And I presume the credit card companies still charge the business a fee for their usage there.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:52:19am

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Wingnuts are all over that saying LOOK AT SWEDEN!!1!2uno!!

Whatever benefit Sweden is getting is because Swedes trust their government and institutions.

Conservatives in this country are famous for not doing precisely that (thanks, Reagan).

I imagine Gov. Kim Reynolds in Iowa is about to preside over an epidemic in that state, since she’s trying to do the same thing.

Sweden enacted plenty of regulations, just not a full scale lockdown. They also have a high death rate, and are pinning their hopes that COVID recovery imparts immunity. While that is probably the case, we have no proof of that, and therefore they are taking a substantial risk.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:53:12am

re: #103 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

It’s a poison pill and he knows it. He wants it added to kill any more stimulus bills.

Not so much a poison pill as his setting the bar higher with each succeeding bill. He got what he wanted in the first bill, which was a massive giveaway to his corporate buddies. And even then, he had to be arm-twisted into accepting any sort of help for workers themselves. With each new bill, he’s raised the bar on what he’ll need to allow Dems to get any sort of aid to Americans.

He knows that state/city aid is pretty much an inevitability, even red states are all but begging him to make it happen. Liability protection isn’t a “poison pill,” it’s the price his corporate masters are asking for “their money” going to the states.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:53:16am

re: #112 Jay C

Far-Western Nebraska is in a special time zone (UTC -50 years).
;)

LOL

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:54:34am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:54:37am

re: #117 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Have come across a number of small businesses that are still cash only. My local dry cleaner is one.

Even less surprised for Anymouse’s area since he indicates that internet and thus banking interactions are probably slower and less reliable. And by being cash only you avoid risk of non-payment due to check bouncing or credit card company refusing payment for some reason. And I presume the credit card companies still charge the business a fee for their usage there.

In a country without an insane rightwing party in power, wiring the entire country for high speed internet would be an obvious economic stimulus that would actually benefit red America.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:55:18am
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mmmirele  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:56:07am

re: #79 Targetpractice

Honestly? Yes. Why? Because as noted by the Vox link up above, he’ll link it to something that he’ll sell as a “concession” to Dem “demands,” then expect the media to do the heavy-lifting of portraying any delay in the bill’s passage as Dems “blocking vital aid.”

I’m wondering what the blowback might be on companies that try to take advantage of a liability waiver. I can guarantee you any company that does that would be on my permanent and everlasting shit list.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:56:33am

re: #121 Charles Johnson

Oh great. A virus that hovers.

Helicopter mom virus…

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:57:02am

re: #123 lawhawk

And that is why I take Benadryl this time of year.
::: allergy sneeze :::
::: washing hands :::

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:57:22am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Helicopter mom virus…

It’s the annoying roommate who never leaves virus.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:57:40am
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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:58:13am

re: #78 Thanos

Where did she find the handsome model?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:58:18am

re: #110 Rightwingconspirator

I do too. Just not in the idea they come around the earth. Or our star. My money is that the “Tic Tac” is a breakthrough drone system from DARPA or something like that. Or a flat out glitch in the very very advanced integrated air defenses and new radars.

Bingo. And let me be clear by “Extraterrestrial life”, I don’t mean complex alien civilizations a la Star Wars or Star Trek, I mean that there are so many star systems and other planets out there it seems logical to me that some of them must be life sustaining, even if said life is only microscopic in nature.

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calochortus  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:58:34am

Apparently the Bay Area counties are going to lighten up a bit on Shelter in Place starting Monday. Not a lot, but primarily outdoor activities, presumably gardening services and the like will be permitted. A couple county parks/open spaces will open. Not all are closed now, but some have been so crowded that they did close them. Our neighbors who were a couple weeks from moving into their new house when construction was shut down got permission from the county to finish the house (with social distancing for the workers.) A tiny glimmer of light.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:58:46am

re: #121 Charles Johnson

Measles hangs in the air two hours. Hence a ridiculous R number, as high as 18 in an unvaccinated “herd”.

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:00:20pm

And now in Today’s Sanity Break:

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:00:58pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

In light of current scientific understanding, the possibility of life on other planets is almost a near certainty. But the idea that they are crossing vast intergalactic distances just to study us is far-fetched. If we ever see evidence of life from beyond our planet, it will likely be in the form of robotic probes. And if we’re lucky, all they’ll want to do is scan our planet and then leave. Because the alternative is they’re here for something, and the odds that we’ll pose any sort of threat to them are…remote.

and everyone in the heartland grabs their chairs for dear life

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:01:08pm

re: #124 mmmirele

I’m wondering what the blowback might be on companies that try to take advantage of a liability waiver. I can guarantee you any company that does that would be on my permanent and everlasting shit list.

Let’s be honest, we’re pretty much already there. The companies just get away with it right now because they label employees as “essential” and thus are trying to keep the corporate lawyers happy by sending out official messages saying things like “We encourage mask usage” or “If you’re sick, we ask you to stay home.”

Meanwhile, local management makes clear that if your ass isn’t at your register by the beginning of your scheduled shift, they’re going to write it down as “voluntary separation” and challenge your application for UI benefits.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:01:20pm

re: #39 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Have not seen an economic stimulus payment, so I went and puttered about the IRS site. Turns out that the key for receiving a payment is whether my 2018 or 2019 income is used for that calculation. IRS says I am eligible, but my 2019 data appears to have not been processed yet. So I’ll hold off since I suspect putting in the 2018 data will result in a “We own you nothing, good day sir!” response.

That I’m even doing this implies that I don’t really need the money, which is probably true. And my intention upon getting it was to give at least half to the local food bank since I’m pretty sure there are people in the county who would benefit from it. (And I might well make a donation of that scope in advance anyways.)

I upped my monthly food bank donation by 40%, and I’m planning to split the stimulus payment between them and a city fund to help small business that’s been set up. Haven’t decided how much goes to whom.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:01:35pm

These people are so divorced from reality they’re insane.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:01:59pm

re: #133 Disloyal Archangel

And now in Today’s Sanity Break:

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I really miss going out and capturing Sanity Break material to share. William and a few others here are rockin it. Which I truly enjoy.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:02:33pm

re: #137 jaunte

[Embedded content]

These people are so divorced from reality they’re insane.

Is Poe fucking with us again?

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:02:46pm

Covid-19 task force symbol: an empty podium.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:03:32pm

re: #137 jaunte

These people are so divorced from reality they’re insane.

We need ones with famous quotes “You’ve got like fifteen cases, and soon it will be down to zero”

“Anyone who needs a test will get one”

“It’s a hoax!”

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mmmirele  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:03:32pm

re: #105 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Surprised that in 2020 there are still stores that don’t take credit cards.

In Japan, that would be a lot of places. You can use a Suica card (a transit card) to buy things from some vending machines and combinis (convenience stores). Hotels and department stores take credit cards, but pretty much everything else is cash. It was explained to me that a lot of people got burned in the early 1990s on credit when the bubble burst, hence the wariness in accepting credit.

PS I know that “UFO” doesn’t mean “little green men.” I just thought it was funny considering how ill-prepared Japan was for the earthquake, tsunami and nuclear reactor meltdown in 2011.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:03:43pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

Not so much a poison pill as his setting the bar higher with each succeeding bill. He got what he wanted in the first bill, which was a massive giveaway to his corporate buddies. And even then, he had to be arm-twisted into accepting any sort of help for workers themselves. With each new bill, he’s raised the bar on what he’ll need to allow Dems to get any sort of aid to Americans.

He knows that state/city aid is pretty much an inevitability, even red states are all but begging him to make it happen. Liability protection isn’t a “poison pill,” it’s the price his corporate masters are asking for “their money” going to the states.

fwiw, Reuters

[SBA] DECIDED, IN CONSULTATION WITH TREASURY, IT WILL REVIEW ALL LOANS IN EXCESS OF $2 MILLION, IN ADDITION TO OTHER LOANS AS APPROPRIATE

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:03:47pm

re: #117 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And by being cash only you avoid risk of non-payment due to check bouncing or credit card company refusing payment for some reason. And I presume the credit card companies still charge the business a fee for their usage there.

If you’re cash only, you don’t have to deal with chargebacks.

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calochortus  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:04:35pm

re: #137 jaunte

[Embedded content]

These people are so divorced from reality they’re insane.

Ummm. seriously? Are they next to the “I survived the Trump administration” T-shirts?

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:05:54pm

“We fought the covid and the (cough) covid won
We fought the covid and the covid won.”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:07:28pm

re: #144 Eric The Fruit Bat

If you’re cash only, you don’t have to deal with chargebacks.

or sales taxes
or income taxes

//

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:07:41pm

Understanding Donald Trump’s Weird Obsession with Andrew Jackson
newsweek.com

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:08:18pm
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William Lewis  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:09:15pm

re: #146 jaunte

“We fought the covid and the (cough) covid won
We fought the covid and the covid won.”

Heh. I thought at first you’d said “I fought the Cat and the Cat won” which knowing most feline overlords was easy to believe :D

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:09:23pm

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

Bingo. And let me be clear by “Extraterrestrial life”, I don’t mean complex alien civilizations a la Star Wars or Star Trek, I mean that there are so many star systems and other planets out there it seems logical to me that some of them must be life sustaining, even if said life is only microscopic in nature.

Until we have more data, we just don’t know if life is a rarity that arose on Earth by a freak accident rarely replicated, or if it’s a natural consequence of an environment in which liquid water exists. If we find life elsewhere in the solar system, and can confirm it isn’t a terrestrial stow away, then the galaxy is probably teeming with life. How often life evolves into an organism capable of creating a technological civilization is a complete unknown. Its entirely possible advanced civilizations usually destroy themselves before they can achieve interstellar flight, as we seem intent on doing.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:09:36pm

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I believe in the possibility of such, but lacking any sort of solid, verifiable evidence, I still relegate it to the realm of speculation and creative fiction.

With the size and variance of the universe, I would say the odds of extraterrestrial life are about 1. The odds of us ever seeing any of that life, unless in this solar system, and even then, are about 0.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:11:23pm

re: #140 jaunte

Covid-19 task force symbol: an empty podium.

And a media that will film that empty podium from every angle and pontificate on how powerful a symbol it is, while ignoring the health experts face palming at every utterance by Trump.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:12:31pm

Waiting for the Executive Time coin with hamberder clusters.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:12:40pm

re: #152 Colère Tueur de Lapin

With the size and variance of the universe, I would say the odds of extraterrestrial life are about 1. The odds of us ever seeing any of that life, unless in this solar system, and even then, are about 0.

Why would any extraterrestrial with intelligence and the means to travel the vast distances of interstellar space bother with a bass-ackward world such as ours? /half.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:13:29pm

re: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Very nice! Well done!

Thanks! I think she did a really good job - she spent a bunch of time researching fabrics to figure out what to use for each of the three layers. Subsequent batches will include a more “manly” pattern and color, for those who think these ones look too “girly.”
I am not one of those, however. I quite happily wear one when I go out.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:14:42pm

re: #108 Jay C

Very cool. Are you selling them?

Thanks! We are. Wife’s shopify thingy should be live today.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:15:20pm

re: #154 jaunte

Waiting for the Executive Time coin with hamberder clusters.

And covfefe stars.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:15:53pm
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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:17:14pm

re: #155 lawhawk

Why would any extraterrestrial with intelligence and the means to travel the vast distances of interstellar space bother with a bass-ackward world such as ours? /half.

Research.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:19:00pm

re: #122 NO SMOCKING GUN!

In a country without an insane rightwing party in power, wiring the entire country for high speed internet would be an obvious economic stimulus that would actually benefit red America.

Like some sort of electronic TVA effort?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:19:39pm

An article in the regional paper this morning interviewing restaurant owners indicates that nearly all of them will continue both curbside and delivery services. They find those to be profitable, and involve less cleaning of dining rooms and such.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:20:31pm

re: #161 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Something like the Rural Electrification Administration. It was quite successful, IIRC.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:21:10pm

re: #161 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Like some sort of electronic TVA effort?

Or before that the federal effort to get telephone service out here, and before that the federal funding of trans-continental railroads and telegraph service.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:21:50pm

re: #140 jaunte

Covid-19 task force symbol: an empty podium.

We need a “Virus Force” camo pattern picture. stat.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:21:59pm

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡

An article in the regional paper this morning interviewing restaurant owners indicates that nearly all of them will continue both curbside and delivery services. They find those to be profitable, and involve less cleaning of dining rooms and such.

Take a look at what Lucky Devil Lounge in Portland, OR did when they had to shut down.

(Might be NSFW, so in a private tag….autoplay vid at link)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:22:17pm

re: #161 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Like some sort of electronic TVA effort?

Can you imagine if FDR hadn’t been elected? Rural America still wouldn’t have electricity, never mind the internet.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:24:06pm

re: #142 mmmirele

In Japan, that would be a lot of places. You can use a Suica card (a transit card) to buy things from some vending machines and combinis (convenience stores). Hotels and department stores take credit cards, but pretty much everything else is cash. It was explained to me that a lot of people got burned in the early 1990s on credit when the bubble burst, hence the wariness in accepting credit.

PS I know that “UFO” doesn’t mean “little green men.” I just thought it was funny considering how ill-prepared Japan was for the earthquake, tsunami and nuclear reactor meltdown in 2011.

They were putting all their efforts in preparing for kaiju.
/

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:25:58pm

re: #137 jaunte

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These people are so divorced from reality they’re insane.

They want $100 for that ugly ass coin…and that’s a sale price!

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:26:04pm

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡

An article in the regional paper this morning interviewing restaurant owners indicates that nearly all of them will continue both curbside and delivery services. They find those to be profitable, and involve less cleaning of dining rooms and such.

The post CV-19 “normal” is going to be so different from what we considered “normal” as recently as six months ago. A lot of businesses are learning how much money they can save and are not going to just go back to the old “normal” because that’s what people expect.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:26:13pm

re: #155 lawhawk

Why would any extraterrestrial with intelligence and the means to travel the vast distances of interstellar space bother with a bass-ackward world such as ours? /half.

To be filmed to serve as a bad example?
//

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:26:30pm

re: #155 lawhawk

Why would any extraterrestrial with intelligence and the means to travel the vast distances of interstellar space bother with a bass-ackward world such as ours? /half.

They don’t have cattle to mutilate or corn fields to make crop circles. /s

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:26:46pm

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

Only months remain to soak the rubes.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:28:02pm

re: #167 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Can you imagine if FDR hadn’t been elected? Rural America still wouldn’t have electricity, never mind the internet.

They’d just be finding out now that the Vietnam War ended.
/

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:28:11pm

re: #137 jaunte

These people are so divorced from reality they’re insane.

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William Lewis  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:28:53pm

re: #155 lawhawk

Why would any extraterrestrial with intelligence and the means to travel the vast distances of interstellar space bother with a bass-ackward world such as ours? /half.

Our Wimmens and our Waters, duh. Hollywood sez so.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:29:06pm

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹🏡

They don’t have cattle to mutilate or corn fields to make crop circles. /s

We’re the intergalactic cross between “Hee-Haw” and “The Truman Show”.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:29:21pm

re: #155 lawhawk

Why would any extraterrestrial with intelligence and the means to travel the vast distances of interstellar space bother with a bass-ackward world such as ours? /half.

Well, if years of watching scifi has taught me anything, it’s that humans are always somehow the missing piece in a massive galactic puzzle that leads to a beneficial future for all. That’s how we went from a bunch of backward savages that nearly nuked ourselves into extinction into the center of a united federation of planets in under a century.

//

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:29:25pm

re: #155 lawhawk

Why would any extraterrestrial with intelligence and the means to travel the vast distances of interstellar space bother with a bass-ackward world such as ours? /half.

1 - ask columbus
2 - intergalactic highway
3 - boredom (Barney Miller: Nick Yemana: “let’s go down to the beach and shoot some clams!” (ok he was accidentally high on hash brownies at the time)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:29:38pm

re: #137 jaunte

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These people are so divorced from reality they’re insane.

This is so typically Trump.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:29:38pm

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

Take a look at what Lucky Devil Lounge in Portland, OR did when they had to shut down.

(Might be NSFW, so in a private tag….autoplay vid at link)

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Love it!

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Jay C  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:31:27pm

re: #157 Jebediah, RBG

Thanks! We are. Wife’s shopify thingy should be live today.

Can you provide us a link?
Our cheapo masks are getting grungy, and I’d love to get a new one without having to check into an ER (they’re still unobtainable here outside the healthcare profession)….
Might as well keep the business “in-house” if possible.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:31:42pm

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

Take a look at what Lucky Devil Lounge in Portland, OR did when they had to shut down.

(Might be NSFW, so in a private tag….autoplay vid at link)

That’s pretty kewl, and innovative.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:31:48pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

Well, if years of watching scifi has taught me anything, it’s that humans are always somehow the missing piece in a massive galactic puzzle that leads to a beneficial future for all. That’s how we went from a bunch of backward savages that nearly nuked ourselves into extinction into the center of a united federation of planets in under a century.

//

The Vulcans needed a useful proxy/auxiliary race to serve as a buffer to cover for the development of their capitalist empire.
/

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:32:21pm

re: #176 William Lewis

Our Wimmens and our Waters, duh. Hollywood sez so.

“Earth Girls Are Easy.”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:33:00pm

re: #180 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This is so typically Trump.

do NOT be surprised that these ‘coins’ were designed in January

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:33:53pm

re: #184 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The Vulcans needed a useful proxy/auxiliary race to serve as a buffer to cover for the development of their capitalist empire.
/

If you listen to Enterprise and Discovery, the Vulcans viewed post-WWIII humans like we view those goobers on Youtube who burn down their house with an ad-hoc flamethrower (lighter and spray can) to get rid of a nest of hornets.

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:34:20pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

Well, if years of watching scifi has taught me anything, it’s that humans are always somehow the missing piece in a massive galactic puzzle that leads to a beneficial future for all. That’s how we went from a bunch of backward savages that nearly nuked ourselves into extinction into the center of a united federation of planets in under a century.

//

A more likely reason: galaxy-wide reality entertainment.

Next Time on EARTH…

(can’t believe it’s been 17 years since this aired)

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:34:23pm

re: #181 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Love it!

Come hell or high water - or COVID-19 - Portland loves their dancers.

An astute move by the owner because a lot of his employees would’ve been up shit creek without work, the dancers especially, as they only work on tips.

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William Lewis  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:35:28pm

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

Take a look at what Lucky Devil Lounge in Portland, OR did when they had to shut down.

(Might be NSFW, so in a private tag….autoplay vid at link)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:36:43pm

re: #186 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

do NOT be surprised that these were designed in January

They misspelt Steve Mnuchin’s name on the Website.

“Mnuuchin”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:37:00pm

re: #103 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

It’s a poison pill and he knows it. He wants it added to kill any more stimulus bills.

Nancy just needs to delete it, pass the rest of the bill and send it back to Mitch

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:37:06pm

re: #186 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

do NOT be surprised that these ‘coins’ were designed in January

I would not be.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:37:38pm

Chester County, PA COVID-19 stats for yesterday. (A later update than usual).

Confirmed cases: 1339 (+50)
Total tests: 6407 (+135)
Deaths: 102 (+17)

About 14 days for case count to double to this number. Relatively large jump in deaths, but seem to be spread out around the county rather than centered in a single township or borough.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:37:41pm

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹🏡

“The Mnooooch”

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:39:20pm

re: #182 Jay C

I will ASAP.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:39:24pm

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:39:30pm

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹🏡

They misspelt Steve Mnuchin’s name on the Website.

“Mnuuchin”

I guess the spellchecker was feeling sarcastic.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:40:10pm

re: #197 Amory Blaine

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Ah found you a Muskstan did we?

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Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:40:26pm
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:41:21pm

re: #190 William Lewis

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William Lewis  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:42:11pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

If you listen to Enterprise and Discovery, the Vulcans viewed post-WWIII humans like we view those goobers on Youtube who burn down their house with an ad-hoc flamethrower (lighter and spray can) to get rid of a nest of hornets.

Oh, no, it’s even worse than that…

The Federation is Team “Fuck it. Hold my beer, I got this.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:42:40pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:43:02pm

re: #200 Amory Blaine

To Elon Musk: Your millions will not protect you from Covid-19. Viruses do not discriminate.

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Thanos  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:44:11pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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Yes, micro particles - I tweeted out a study from Japan TV yesterday claiming the same thing. You have to ventilate.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:44:22pm

re: #200 Amory Blaine

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Gah.

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plansbandc  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:45:04pm

God I’m sick of the ratfuckery and ignorance from the Rs. What in the hell is wrong with mail in ballots? The military does it, expats do it, several states do it.

My BS tolerance is going into negative numbers.

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NetworkKed  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:45:20pm

re: #200 Amory Blaine

Is there ANY value left in the Wall Street Journal? When I was a kid, it was one of maybe two or three nationally famous/advertised papers. The few times I read it I found it very dry, but basically factual. Now it’s just a Murdoch mouthpiece that pushes the standard conservaderp hot takes.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:45:59pm

I got hold of a human at EDD. But I have to call a different number and those guys are only 8am-12pm. It’s to get hold of a specialist. What a rollercoaster stress-wise. I just gotta find faith the money will come. I bet a bunch of us are in this boat.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:46:42pm

re: #207 plansbandc

God I’m sick of the ratfuckery and ignorance from the Rs. What in the hell is wrong with mail in ballots? The military does it, expats do it, several states do it.

My BS tolerance is going into negative numbers.

Mail voting generally leads to higher voter participation. Higher voter participation means Republicans get their asses handed to them.

That’s really all there is to it.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:48:12pm

re: #207 plansbandc

God I’m sick of the ratfuckery and ignorance from the Rs. What in the hell is wrong with mail in ballots? The military does it, expats do it, several states do it.

My BS tolerance is going into negative numbers.

Mail in ballots ensure that everyone gets to vote. How do you keep Shaniqua, who you’ve ensured has to work 16 hours a day, from voting if she can just drop it in the mail?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:48:59pm

re: #207 plansbandc

God I’m sick of the ratfuckery and ignorance from the Rs. What in the hell is wrong with mail in ballots? The military does it, expats do it, several states do it.

My BS tolerance is going into negative numbers.

They hate anything that makes participation in democracy easier for the vulnerable. It’s like that with the judiciary too and it’s what Roberts’ legacy will be heavily defined by.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:50:38pm

re: #211 Belafon

Mail in ballots ensure that everyone gets to vote. How do you keep Shaniqua, who you’ve ensured has to work 16 hours a day, from voting if she can just drop it in the mail?

Yep they fear a huge turnout that will be devastating to them not just this fall but in the long term.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:51:13pm

You may have noticed a rather large spike in COVID-19 deaths in the UK today.
A few thousand were added. These are not ‘probable’ cases. All have positive tests.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:51:40pm

re: #207 plansbandc

God I’m sick of the ratfuckery and ignorance from the Rs. What in the hell is wrong with mail in ballots? The military does it, expats do it, several states do it.

My BS tolerance is going into negative numbers.

Can’t make it easy for the masses to vote. They’ve already openly admitted that if they do that in a number of states they’d lose their gerrymandered majorities. And Texas would go purple/blue even faster and they’ve admitted that losing Texas in addition to New York and California puts winning a Presidential election out of their reach.

(Of course, to contest elections why not think of offering and implementing policies that might prove more popular with voters? Because that is not who they are.)

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plansbandc  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:51:43pm

re: #210 Dr Lizardo

Yes, but every single R on my FB is ranting about mail in ballots. That the Rs in charge can get that message through so thoroughly when mail-in has been done for decades. SMDH I don’t know why this is the thing that pushed me off the cliff today, but it did.

I’m just tired of the ignorance.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:52:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:52:56pm

re: #167 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Can you imagine if FDR hadn’t been elected? Rural America still wouldn’t have electricity, never mind the internet.

electricity and internet are still occasionally hit or miss here in TheBackwoods

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:53:55pm

pphd.org

Yesterday’s statistics for the Nebraska Panhandle:

Total confirmed: 47 (+2 since yesterday, both in Scott’s Bluff County, a woman in her forties and a teenage boy)
Recovered: 30
Deaths: 0
2/3 of cases are women, largest age group 40-49

Montana rancher who recovered from COVID-19: ‘It’s the sickest I’ve ever been’ (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

He is a retired internal medicine physician. It is believed he picked up the disease from his wife, who had a sore throat and minor headache. She caught it in a grocery store, where she spent less than five minutes. The state health department presumes she was an asymptomatic carrier of the virus and passed it to her husband.

In the incubation period for the virus, a cow got its head stuck in a tree on his ranch (cattle are really dumb), and his neighbour helped him free the cow. He then passed it to his wife, so now they both have the disease as well. They are believed to have picked up the disease in the short time he spent helping free the cow.

[Dr. David] Graham said [Mark] Ward’s case highlights the fact that there’s no rule book on the disease. While he had some of the typical symptoms, including a fever, Ward said his bigger complaints were nausea, diarrhea, a deep weakness and severe body pain.

“I’ve never had that much pain before,” Ward said.

When he finally decided he needed to get to the hospital, he couldn’t walk from his bed to his truck. An ambulance drove him the 60 miles to Billings.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:53:59pm

re: #217 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“See, I didn’t ‘say’ it. I just agreed with it. And now I don’t.”

He will never take responsibility for anything.

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William Lewis  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:54:22pm

re: #209 Rightwingconspirator

I got hold of a human at EDD. But I have to call a different number and those guys are only 8am-12pm. It’s to get hold of a specialist. What a rollercoaster stress-wise. I just gotta find faith the money will come. I bet a bunch of us are in this boat.

Try contacting your state representative and see if they can “jump the line” for you.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:55:06pm

re: #200 Amory Blaine

“I need to make more money and don’t care how many people get sick so I can!”

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:55:28pm

Looks like there’s a chance that the pandemic will accelerate the ongoing retail apocalypse:

First, the department store closes. Then, the apparel shops try to scoot out of deals. This is a one-two punch that could trigger a wave of malls shutting for good over the next 12 months.

More than 50% of the department stores anchoring America’s malls are going to close permanently by the end of next year, a new report by Green Street Advisors predicts. There are about 1,000 malls still open in the U.S. And roughly 60% of those have department store retailers, such as Macy’s, as anchor tenants, the commercial real estate services firm said.

The coronavirus pandemic that has slammed the U.S. economy is speeding up the demise of department stores. As Covid-19 forced the likes of J.C. Penney, Macy’s, Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus to shut shops temporarily, the circumstances became even more dire for these already struggling companies. Slumping sales and an overhang of debt could push some into bankruptcy. Strained for cash, these retailers are scrambling for additional liquidity. More department store closures are inevitable. And that will put another level of pressure on mall owners.

cnbc.com

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see JC Penney’s and Sears bite the dust once and for all. I heard Neiman Marcus filed for bankruptcy a few days back.

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plansbandc  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:55:31pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:56:11pm

re: #202 William Lewis

Oh, no, it’s even worse than that…

The Federation is Team “Fuck it. Hold my beer, I got this.”

That pretty much is the canon view of humanity by the major races, that we’re an impulsive child-race that went from an irradiated hellscape to one of the most advanced civilizations in under a century, without managing to blow ourselves up in the process.

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Ferdinand  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:57:50pm

re: #209 Rightwingconspirator

I got hold of a human at EDD. But I have to call a different number and those guys are only 8am-12pm. It’s to get hold of a specialist. What a rollercoaster stress-wise. I just gotta find faith the money will come. I bet a bunch of us are in this boat.

I am! I was scheduled to start with the 2020 Census as a field worker; when that was cancelled with everything else I finally relented and applied for unemployment a month ago. I’m still not able to get a straight answer as to which state I should apply in (I live in Oklahoma, and have since the new CARES legislation, but my last work was over 6 months ago in Washington) a month into the process. And of course neither my wife nor I have yet to see any sign of the $1200 pandemic relief payments. We’re barely getting by, partly on the hope that this money will come in and retroactively pay to the beginning of my UI claim. We shall see.

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Interesting Times  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:57:58pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I imagine Gov. Kim Reynolds in Iowa is about to preside over an epidemic in that state, since she’s trying to do the same thing.

Mission Accomplished:

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:00:25pm

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

Looks like there’s a chance that the pandemic will accelerate the ongoing retail apocalypse:

cnbc.com

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see JC Penney’s and Sears bite the dust once and for all. I heard Neiman Marcus filed for bankruptcy a few days back.

It won’t just be retail stores. While fast food chains are doing reasonably well by just shutting down their dining rooms, the major chains that rely upon those dining rooms are suffering. They’re dealing with it by branching into delivery services, either with their own drivers or through companies like DoorDash, but the writing is pretty clearly on the wall: If you were struggling before CV-19, then your days are numbered.

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gocart mozart  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:01:29pm

Did anyone catch David Simon bitch slapping of David Frum this morning?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:03:15pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

That pretty much is the canon view of humanity by the major races, that we’re an impulsive child-race that went from an irradiated hellscape to one of the most advanced civilizations in under a century, without managing to blow ourselves up in the process.

Humans: The Mary Sues of intelligent races.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:05:49pm

re: #207 plansbandc

God I’m sick of the ratfuckery and ignorance from the Rs. What in the hell is wrong with mail in ballots? The military does it, expats do it, several states do it.

My BS tolerance is going into negative numbers.

it’s not about the argument
or the logic
the specifics dont matter
they are just against it - no matter what it is

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:06:29pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

Even in B5 or Stargate, we’re a young race that somehow becomes central to the plot of intergalactic scheming.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:06:58pm

re: #228 Targetpractice

It won’t just be retail stores. While fast food chains are doing reasonably well by just shutting down their dining rooms, the major chains that rely upon those dining rooms are suffering. They’re dealing with it by branching into delivery services, either with their own drivers or through companies like DoorDash, but the writing is pretty clearly on the wall: If you were struggling before CV-19, then your days are numbered.

When we get a vaccine, and enough people vaccinated to allow people to be in groups again, and a few requirements like restaurant employees must be vaccinated, those places will fill up again. Even I occassionally like my free refills of tea, chips, and salsa. And it’s just good to get out of the house.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:07:51pm

re: #229 gocart mozart

Did anyone catch David Simon bitch slapping of David Frum this morning?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:08:14pm

re: #217 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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um, no, we’re not gonna be there soon:

Admiral Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary of health who is in charge of the government’s testing response, said that “there is absolutely no way on Earth, on this planet or any other planet, that we can do 20 million tests a day, or even five million tests a day.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:09:35pm

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:09:40pm

re: #227 Interesting Times

Mission Accomplished:

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Georgia: hold our beers
Georgia’s Experiment in Human Sacrifice

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:10:44pm

re: #221 William Lewis

Try contacting your state representative and see if they can “jump the line” for you.

Yup, working that line too. Attached a recording of the EDD voicemail message.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:10:58pm

re: #232 lawhawk

Even in B5 or Stargate, we’re a young race that somehow becomes central to the plot of intergalactic scheming.

Also true in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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sagehen  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:11:53pm

re: #155 lawhawk

Why would any extraterrestrial with intelligence and the means to travel the vast distances of interstellar space bother with a bass-ackward world such as ours? /half.

Why do bio-chemists collect specimens of hard-to-reach stuff in the Amazon, to see which poisons and venoms can be made into medicine?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:12:39pm

re: #226 Ferdinand

And of course neither my wife nor I have yet to see any sign of the $1200 pandemic relief payments.

My mother, who is on Medicare, just got her payment.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:13:09pm

re: #239 NO SMOCKING GUN!

re: #232 lawhawk

“No. It’s just you people look Timelord”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:13:24pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:13:36pm

re: #232 lawhawk

Even in B5 or Stargate, we’re a young race that somehow becomes central to the plot of intergalactic scheming.

Most scifi these days generally falls into one of two camps: Humanity is the keystone to bringing all the galaxy together in peace or (more accurately) we’re just another in a long line of victims of an alien race that sees us as little more than spare parts. But that’s usually because the former are morality tales, while the latter are horror shows.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:14:15pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:14:45pm

re: #232 lawhawk

Even in B5 or Stargate, we’re a young race that somehow becomes central to the plot of intergalactic scheming.

We can be manipulated, hired as mercenaries, and bribed to be traitors.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:15:29pm

re: #239 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Also true in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

It’s true in D&D.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:16:04pm

re: #235 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

um, no, we’re not gonna be there soon:

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How soon until Girior has “former” in his title due to naysaying the Orange Menace?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:16:13pm

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Humans: The Mary Sues of intelligent races.

In an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9, Quark pretty much nailed humans:

The Siege of AR-558 Star Trek DS9 S7 Ep 8 Quark tells Nog how humans get when roughing it

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:16:17pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If all your 81 year olds die off then the life expectancy number will go down quite a bit Ben.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:17:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:18:07pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:18:32pm

thegreatpoolpondcoversion - 200426 edition ——————————->
“Chute”

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:18:52pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

And. Here. We. Go.

Can’t have a catastrophic death toll from a pandemic if no one knows about it, amirite?

*headdesk*

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:19:06pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is how you can tell a country is rationally dealing with an epidemic. //

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Interesting Times  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:19:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:20:07pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:20:36pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

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if she’s past the ‘life expectancy’ what if they just stop feeding her?
plus i dont think ‘life expectancy’ means what you think it means

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:21:03pm

Interesting. 270toWin has moved one of our house districts (NE-2) to “toss-up.”

270towin.com

They start Democrats at 232 electoral votes and Republicans at 204.

Toss-ups are:
Florida: 25
North Carolina: 15
Pennsylvania: 20
Michigan: 16
Wisconsin: 10
Nebraska: 1
Arizona: 11

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plansbandc  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:21:12pm

God I’m glad we have Dems in charge here. If Martinez was still Governor, we would’ve closed way too late or not at all. Knowing her, not at all.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:23:08pm

Well, time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:23:12pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ben always has had an authoritarian mind.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:24:39pm

re: #258 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

if she’s past the ‘life expectancy’ what if they just stop feeding her?
plus i dont think ‘life expectancy’ means what you think it means

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:24:54pm

re: #250 b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)

If all your 81 year olds die off then the life expectancy number will go down quite a bit Ben.

This is up there with his suggestion to sell your house when Climate Change impacts Florida. He really isn’t that smart.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:25:03pm

re: #261 Dr Lizardo

Well, time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

G’night.

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Interesting Times  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:25:12pm

re: #259 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Interesting. 270toWin has moved one of our house districts (NE-2) to “toss-up.”

270towin.com

They start Democrats at 232 electoral votes and Republicans at 204.

Toss-ups are:
Florida: 25
North Carolina: 15
Pennsylvania: 20
Michigan: 16
Wisconsin: 10
Nebraska: 1
Arizona: 11

If this keeps up, we’ll need to expand that list:

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:25:35pm

re: #255 Belafon

This is how you can tell a country is rationally dealing with an epidemic. //

florida may think it’s a country but it aint

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:26:40pm

re: #266 Interesting Times

If this keeps up, we’ll need to expand that list:

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Texas as a toss up state. I think it’s possible.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:27:01pm

re: #156 Jebediah, RBG

Thanks! I think she did a really good job - she spent a bunch of time researching fabrics to figure out what to use for each of the three layers. Subsequent batches will include a more “manly” pattern and color, for those who think these ones look too “girly.”
I am not one of those, however. I quite happily wear one when I go out.

More psychedelic than girly imho.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:27:42pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:28:13pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They were never “pro-life,” that much was obvious when their response to the possibility of women dying due to abortion bans was “God’s will,” but at least they would cloak it in “morality” or “religious freedom.” Here, they’re demanding that the weak be sacrificed in the name of the Magic Line.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:29:22pm

re: #270 Charles Johnson

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This is their fallback now that they’re beginning to realize that “CHINA DID THIS!!!” isn’t selling with anyone outside of their racist base.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:30:35pm

re: #256 Interesting Times

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sorry no
stop pretending
you are not a ‘choice’ and you know it
the choice is a biden administration or a trump administration
an Amash administration is not mathematically possible. no it is not.

now if you want to be honest and admit that another trump administration would be far far worse than even a biden admin, then tell republicans to vote for you. say it out loud.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:31:26pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I realize whitehousegiftshop.com actually does everything it can to suggest otherwise, but it’s not part of the government. It’s a private for-profit company based in Pennsylvania. Stop tweeting about the purported coronavirus coin, it’s unrelated to the Trump White House.

wanna bet? (1/2) //

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:31:58pm

re: #271 Targetpractice

They were never “pro-life,” that much was obvious when their response to the possibility of women dying due to abortion bans was “God’s will,” but at least they would cloak it in “morality” or “religious freedom.” Here, they’re demanding that the weak be sacrificed in the name of the Magic Line.

I looked up “magic line” because I keep seeing that and don’t know what it means.

A search engine returns pages on “Magic Line Baking Pans.” I don’t think that’s what you mean here (though Pie Overlord might).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:32:59pm

re: #202 William Lewis

Oh, no, it’s even worse than that…

The Federation is Team “Fuck it. Hold my beer, I got this.”

That article is amazing. And I say that as a huge Trek fan.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:35:30pm

re: #270 Charles Johnson

Trump has the last clear chance to stop SARS-CoV2 from entering and spreading in the US.

He failed spectacularly.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:35:47pm

re: #275 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I looked up “magic line” because I keep seeing that and don’t know what it means.

A search engine returns pages on “Magic Line Baking Pans.” I don’t think that’s what you mean here (though Pie Overlord might).

Sorry, it’s something I picked up from twitter, a euphemism for “the stock market.” The idea that a “magic line” on a screen is somehow an indicator of the health of the economy, and thus the ideal situation is that line forever going upward. In other words, the exact opposite of all the “Wall Street v. Main Street” shit that the wingnuts liked to sling around during the Obama years.

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makeitstop  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:36:28pm

re: #137 jaunte

These people are so divorced from reality they’re insane.

TPM says the ‘White House Gift Shop’ is unaffiliated with the actual White House.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:37:20pm
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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:38:25pm

re: #277 Eric The Fruit Bat

Trump has the last clear chance to stop SARS-CoV2 from entering and spreading in the US.

He failed spectacularly.

And he’s continuing to fail - starting with his refusal to do anything about domestic air travel, let alone international air travel. No systematic screening prior to boarding, no mask requirements, nothing. Everyone gets funneled into a single screening on the arrival side from international locations. It’s a recipe for further spread.

And the thing is that TSA allows people to wear masks and then lower the mask to confirm identification. It’s just that there’s no consistent policy here. There’s nothing. It’s just Trump spewing nonsense from the WH and no one doing anything downstream that can prevent further spread.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:38:41pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:39:13pm

re: #278 Targetpractice

Thanks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:40:18pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

What the actual fuck is he talking about??

How can there be an old-fashioned way of testing for a disease that appeared less than a year ago?

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ericblair  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:40:34pm

re: #254 Dr Lizardo

And. Here. We. Go.

Can’t have a catastrophic death toll from a pandemic if no one knows about it, amirite?

*headdesk*

Reality is the thing that doesn’t go away when you ignore it, unfortunately.

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EPR-radar  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:41:21pm

re: #208 NetworkKed

Is there ANY value left in the Wall Street Journal? When I was a kid, it was one of maybe two or three nationally famous/advertised papers. The few times I read it I found it very dry, but basically factual. Now it’s just a Murdoch mouthpiece that pushes the standard conservaderp hot takes.

The WSJ op-ed pages have always been a wretched hive of wingnut scum and villainy, but traditionally the WSJ straight news reporting was good. Murdoch is probably changing that for the worse.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:41:56pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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damn
no whey

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:42:26pm

re: #286 EPR-radar

Yes. And that is why I read The Washington Post.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:42:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:42:54pm

re: #284 Eclectic Cyborg

What the actual fuck is he talking about??

How can there be an old-fashioned way for a disease that appeared less than a year ago?

Bloodletting. We have assault rifles for that now.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:43:09pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And we’re probably going to find out that, like the stories from the meat-packing plants, the company has known for awhile and was so desperate to keep the doors open that they were sneaking people onto the production line that they knew to be sick.

“We’re checking temps of all our workers!”

“And the ones who fail?”

“*quietly* We let them come in the side entrance, then hand them a couple aspirin and put’em on the line.”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:43:24pm

re: #284 Eclectic Cyborg

What the actual fuck is he talking about??

How can there be an old-fashioned way for a disease that appeared less than a year ago?

dont try to understand it
it isnt even chinatown
its just the usual bullshit and nonsense word sludge

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:43:59pm

re: #285 ericblair

Reality is the thing that doesn’t go away when you ignore it, unfortunately.

reality is the thing that doesnt give a fuck what you ‘believe’

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:44:32pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cue civil libertarian lawsuits entered under Florida’s sunshine law …

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:45:06pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

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i literally lol’d

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:45:11pm

re: #205 Thanos

Yes, micro particles - I tweeted out a study from Japan TV yesterday claiming the same thing. You have to ventilate.

I missed that. I saw from NHK World a couple of weeks ago a short piece that showed a lab at Kyoto Tech. University where they arranged lasers to light up the particles that come out through both sneezing and loud talking. It definitely showed the microparticles lingering in the air for 20 minutes or more (and demonstrated the importance of good ventilation, too).

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:45:30pm

re: #284 Eclectic Cyborg

What the actual fuck is he talking about??

How can there be an old-fashioned way for a disease that appeared less than a year ago?

If I had to guess? He thinks that antibody tests using blood droplets are “advanced” over the “old-fashioned” tests involving jamming a cotton swab into your nasal cavities, ignoring that the former only really work to figure out if someone’s been infected and developed antibodies versus someone who’s actively fighting an infection.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:45:32pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Never was so little said in so many words and other great prose from Donald J. Trump

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:46:26pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gonna go plaid soon.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:48:23pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who in Florida’s state health department ordered this? It looks like the Tampa Bay Times is digging to find out.

Stephen Nelson, the chairman of the state Medical Examiners Commission, told the Tampa Bay Times that the state health department intervened and told him it planned to remove causes of death and case descriptions from mortality data.

Nelson told the newspaper the data is meaningless without that information, and the entirety of the list should be considered public information.
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“This is no different than any other public record we deal with,” he said. “It’s paid for by taxpayer dollars and the taxpayers have a right to know.”

Alberto Moscoso, a spokesman for the state health department, told the Times that the department “participated in conference calls” with the state Department of Law Enforcement, which provides administrative support to the Medical Examiners Commission, saying the discussions pertained to “privacy concerns for the individuals that passed away related to COVID-19.”

“Privacy” (bullshyte)

thehill.com

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Citizen K  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:49:21pm

re: #51 KGxvi

I really don’t understand why House leadership doesn’t ever get in front of things by passing a House Bill and then putting the pressure on McConnell and Trump to argue against it.

re: #52 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Because the media will simply ignore it that while McConnell lets said bill rot on his desk along with all the other stuff the House has passed.

Late to this, but isn’t that exactly what the House did for much of last year? And, lo and behold, despite lots of noise made by Dems, none of it filtered through to the mainstream and instead they were hammered over and over for being a ‘do-nothing House’.

Like I’ve put it before, “If a tree legislatively maneuvers in the forest, and no one’s there to report on it, did it really do anything to fight?” And as pointed out earlier, Sunday shows get to pick and choose who they invite, and they always overwhelmingly load up their guest lists with conservatives, no matter how hard Dems fight to get on.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:50:01pm

re: #269 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

More psychedelic than girly imho.

Yeah, that’s my take too.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:50:13pm

We’re going to need a federal commission after this.

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William Lewis  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:50:13pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

CAH6LYtWkCWSnR2fld+cHsmMcW5dnx8eJGXQ1hh0YVn22W17Slb7IvIZoMIfoDfB

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:50:39pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nancy just needs to delete it, pass the rest of the bill and send it back to Mitch

Who will then try to kill it by reinserting the language.

In other more mundane news. The water finally got turned on and I was able to test my sprinkler system. Lost two valves due to cracking over the winter. I really don’t want to go out but the yard needs water bad.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:51:17pm

re: #300 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Who in Florida’s state health department ordered this? It looks like the Tampa Bay Times is digging to find out.

“Privacy” (bullshyte)

thehill.com

So it’s officially hidden for political purposes and providing a touch of plausible deniability when people crunch the mortality figures for February 2020 and on compared to the averages for previous years and show that a lot more people in Florida are dying right now than usually do.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:52:40pm

re: #291 Targetpractice

And we’re probably going to find out that, like the stories from the meat-packing plants, the company has known for awhile and was so desperate to keep the doors open that they were sneaking people onto the production line that they knew to be sick.

“We’re checking temps of all our workers!”

“And the ones who fail?”

“*quietly* We let them come in the side entrance, then hand them a couple aspirin and put’em on the line.”

probably a small thing regarding temperature taking
98.6 is ‘normal’ body temp and ‘fever’ is defined as 100.4 or over

just like ben up above misunderstood ‘life expectancy’ - these temperatures are averages or norms

a lot of people run cool
my normal is 97.2. that’s a degree and a half
i’d slip right under that threshold with no problem at a barely registering 99.

and im sure a lot of people run hot and so would be flagged as false positives.
i also realize this is just one symptom / data point.

but still, i’m gonna be sick and in there cutting up the meat im trying not to cough on

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:53:51pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:55:18pm

re: #300 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Who in Florida’s state health department ordered this? It looks like the Tampa Bay Times is digging to find out.

“Privacy” (bullshyte)

thehill.com

apparently we have no right to know if our health is at risk or in danger because of something lots of other people are dying from

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:59:00pm
“Last summer, on his final day of work at the nation’s consumer finance watchdog agency, a career economist sent colleagues a blunt memo,” the New York Times reports.

“He claimed that President Trump’s appointees at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau had manipulated the agency’s research process to justify altering a 2017 rule that would have sharply curtailed high-interest payday loans.”

“The departing staff member, Jonathan Lanning, detailed several maneuvers by his agency’s political overseers that he considered legally risky and scientifically indefensible, including pressuring staff economists to water down their findings on payday loans and use statistical gimmicks to downplay the harm consumers would suffer if the payday restrictions were repealed.”

while i am all out of quelle surprises, wtf

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:59:13pm

The media keeps talking about McConnell as the gatekeeper on the funds, yet it was the House that passed the first two bills that appropriated funds to deal with the initial outbreak and the damage done to the economy. They were working on their own bill in competition with the CARES Act, but Mitch got his bill to the floor first by grabbing a House bill off his desk, amending his own bill atop it, and then rushing it to a vote before the House could pass theirs and thus force a conference committee to hash out a final bill.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:00:00pm

re: #309 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

apparently we have no right to know if our health is at risk or in danger because of something lots of other people are dying from

There is a metric fuquetonne of conservaderp on that thread from The Hill as well: Doctors are calling deaths “coronavirus” to make money with underpants gnomes, privacy laws, the disease is a hoax, the press is trying to scare people, &c.

That’s the reason for the firehose of bullshyte from the real Lying Press (conservative media): To put so many different “theories” out there you can’t possibly bat them all down.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:03:28pm

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹🏡

There is a metric fuquetonne of conservaderp on that thread from The Hill as well: Doctors are calling deaths “coronavirus” to make money with underpants gnomes, privacy laws, the disease is a hoax, the press is trying to scare people, &c.

That’s the reason for the firehose of bullshyte from the real Lying Press (conservative media): To put so many different “theories” out there you can’t possibly bat them all down.

No and it conveniently deflects attention from what the REAL problems are and who is responsible for them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:04:49pm

THIS THREAD

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:06:34pm

El Jefe at Juanita Jean’s:

Greg Abbot: Dictator

Juanita Jean’s goes into a long (and documented) rant on how the Governor of Texas is making what appears to be a dictatorial power grab over the state apparatus.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:07:00pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:09:10pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:09:35pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:09:41pm

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡

“Earth Girls Are Easy.”

That was Zaphod Beeblebrox’s take.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:10:08pm

re: #305 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Who will then try to kill it by reinserting the language.

then she does it again

and again

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:10:08pm

re: #314 The Pie Overlord!

THIS THREAD

The original tweet shows up as “This tweet is unavailable” in that thread, but the original is still up at Mr. Daou’s feed.

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A Cranky One  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:10:30pm

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🏡

You’re living rent-free in their heads, Mr. Johnson. You seem to have enough space you could have an AirBNB.

Don’t encourage Charles. He’s gone full Little Green Footballs.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:13:17pm

re: #317 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Give them statehood or independence already.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:13:19pm

re: #314 The Pie Overlord!

THIS THREAD

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The problem with this thread’s argument is that it really only speaks to the motivations of MAGAts, who are scared shitless of having to run against Biden when their big hope was going into the fall running against Bernie.

For Berners, the idea is that if Biden is forced to drop out because of “credible accusations,” then they believe the result will be Bernie “unsuspending” his campaign and being crowned the candidate by virtue of being the only person left standing. Some like Daou try to BS that “Warren or Buttigieg or Klobucher could also unsuspend, we have options!,” but the reality is they genuinely believe spreading this BS will lead to a Bernie nomination.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:15:43pm

re: #322 A Cranky One

Don’t encourage Charles. He’s gone full Little Green Footballs.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:15:46pm

I’m puzzled by Peter Daou’s weird left turn. He seemed like a pretty straight ahead guy when I first encountered him on Twitter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:17:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:18:25pm

re: #317 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It’s an apocalyptic outcome because their racist voters would go off the rails.

It was in the GOP platform because they had no intent on acting on it anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:19:12pm

was the restaurant owner crying?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:20:48pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

Unions 1, Donnie 0.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:21:49pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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was the restaurant owner crying?

I can’t help but be impressed/dumbfounded at how much mileage Trump has managed to get off this one stupid, bullshit story.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:21:58pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is why corporations desperately want a “liability shield” passed, because right now those workers have fair grounds to challenge any terminations on the grounds that the company has not only promoted but is trying to force them to return to an unsafe working environment. With such a law, Smithfield just fires the lot of them and tells the rest “You’re lucky to still have jobs!”

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:24:06pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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was the restaurant owner crying?

“The way it was.” That’s what he and his room temp IQ base don’t get, there’s no going back to “the way it was” in the near term. Even if they manage to develop a vaccine by year’s end, it will be a long time before people feel safe enough to just return to “the way it was.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:24:11pm

re: #284 Eclectic Cyborg

What the actual fuck is he talking about??

How can there be an old-fashioned way of testing for a disease that appeared less than a year ago?

I would infer he means - let the plebs go out into the world and if they live, they live; if not, engh.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:24:43pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

This pushing from Republicans about “open the economy” may very well turn into a general strike.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:25:58pm

heh

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EPR-radar  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:26:38pm

re: #332 Targetpractice

This is why corporations desperately want a “liability shield” passed, because right now those workers have fair grounds to challenge any terminations on the grounds that the company has not only promoted but is trying to force them to return to an unsafe working environment. With such a law, Smithfield just fires the lot of them and tells the rest “You’re lucky to still have jobs!”

US ‘business as usual’ is piss-poor in normal times, and is a disaster when stressed by the covid19 outbreak.

Let’s hope that realization sticks and spurs much-needed reforms (starting with the electoral annihilation of the Republican party and all its putrid works).

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EPR-radar  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:27:31pm

re: #335 Anymouse 🌹🏡

This pushing from Republicans about “open the economy” may very well turn into a general strike.

Wouldn’t that be a shame.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:28:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:28:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:29:53pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:30:55pm

re: #331 Eclectic Cyborg

I can’t help but be impressed/dumbfounded at how much mileage Trump has manage to get off this one stupid, bullshit story.

He likes the idea of people who actually made their living legitimately begging him for his eternal wisdom to do what Trump wants. Even if the restaurants were to open tomorrow, I wouldn’t be rushing to get a reservation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:31:50pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:32:46pm

re: #335 Anymouse 🌹🏡

This pushing from Republicans about “open the economy” may very well turn into a general strike.

It’s why they’ve not only been big on shielding companies from liability, but also pushing for cuts to UI benefits. The only way they keep the plebes in line is under the constant threat of losing everything by being fired and effectively blacklisted from an industry.

CV-19 is totally upsetting that apple cart because the drones have realized that there are worse things than losing your job, like dying and leaving your family without a source of income because your boss told you to report to work no matter how sick you were.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:33:42pm

re: #343 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He likes the idea of people who actually made their living legitimately begging him for his eternal wisdom to do what Trump wants. Even if the restaurants were to open tomorrow, I wouldn’t be rushing to get a reservation.

I would never step foot into ANY restaurant that opens before this is under control.
And I mean never, ever

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:35:36pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would never step foot into ANY restaurant that opens before this is under control.
And I mean never, ever

THIS.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:35:37pm

re: #321 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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The original tweet shows up as “This tweet is unavailable” in that thread, but the original is still up at Mr. Daou’s feed.

I think Daou has blocked BeeDub.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:36:38pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would never step foot into ANY restaurant that opens before this is under control.
And I mean never, ever

But there are a bunch of trumperhoids who will go when dear leader says it’s all good.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:36:42pm

Lre: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would never step foot into ANY restaurant that opens before this is under control.
And I mean never, ever

Exactly. Trump isn’t getting “his” economy back. Maybe if he cared more about the PDB than getting his daily worship from FNC and his stupid rallies, the economy might be open. Trump has failed on this more than any other world leader.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:37:10pm

Observer Art would be pleased

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:37:21pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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was the restaurant owner crying?

Big, tough restaurant owner.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:37:33pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

Taking his statement at face value, if he did apply for a loan, he wasted his bank’s employees’ time processing his loan application, whatever government employees’ time approving it, then “rejecting” the loan to crow about how responsible he is.

That’s pretty frickin’ low wasting all those people’s time just for a talking point.

Or, he lied and said he applied for a loan when he never did. (Would Toilet Paper USA fit the requirements to be approved for such a loan?)

Or, he was turned down and he said he returned the money.

There is no scenario I can think of that doesn’t make Charlie Kirk look like a giant douche.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:38:17pm

re: #352 The Pie Overlord!

Big, tough restaurant owner.

Never cried a single tear before that day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:38:41pm

re: #353 Anymouse 🌹🏡

he never applied for a loan

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:39:11pm

re: #354 Targetpractice

Never cried a single tear before that day.

not even when onions were being chopped

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:39:38pm

re: #326 Charles Johnson

I’m puzzled by Peter Daou’s weird left turn. He seemed like a pretty straight ahead guy when I first encountered him on Twitter.

Bernie or bust. There’s no middle ground. They are ok with burning it all down. Daou isn’t the only one.

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:41:11pm

So, apparently there is momentum for the Tim Ryan/Ro Khanna psuedo-UBI plan now? $2,000/mo for anyone making $130k or less, and phased out at $100 for every $1k over $130? Seems fairly reasonable. Put a 2% excise tax on all publicly traded stock and commodity transactions, and you can probably pay for it fairly easily, no?

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calochortus  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:41:59pm

re: #258 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

if she’s past the ‘life expectancy’ what if they just stop feeding her?
plus i dont think ‘life expectancy’ means what you think it means

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Yeah, an 81 year old has a life expectancy that is >-1 year.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:42:22pm
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jeffreyw  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:42:58pm

smoked shoulder, hash browns with smoked pork

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:43:39pm

re: #349 Colère Tueur de Lapin

But there are a bunch of trumperhoids who will go when dear leader says it’s all good.

They can get each other sick, and I won’t be there to watch it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:43:52pm

Fourteen tweets, in which the founder of the Me Too movement throws her support behind Tara Reade.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:44:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:44:22pm

jeebus

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:45:13pm

AMC Theaters has declared that it’s not reopening any time soon. I suspect a bunch of businesses are going to do the same, and others will just stay the course, especially restaurants.

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retired cynic  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:45:18pm

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

She could grow up and be the 5th wife of DJTjr.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:46:02pm

Ah, a tragedy. I just received my “I’m so awesome for giving you $1,200 of your own money!” letter from Chief Running Eagle, yet I don’t own a paper shredder and it’s now too warm even at night to use the paper as a fire starter.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:47:14pm

re: #364 Charles Johnson

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I can see Trump firing Parscale. Poll came out today with Trump losing in Texas. I think Trump is probably freaking out knowing this election is a direct referendum on him and his lack of leadership and we could see him lose bigger than a Republican has in years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:47:31pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:47:37pm

re: #155 lawhawk

Why would any extraterrestrial with intelligence and the means to travel the vast distances of interstellar space bother with a bass-ackward world such as ours? /half.

Chocolate.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:47:55pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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As I’ve said before, that will be the dogma come November: “It could have been worse!”

And what’s this “we” business, Donny? You’ve done all of jack and shit to address this crisis and been an active hindrance at more than one point.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:48:03pm

re: #368 Targetpractice

Do you own a good paper shears? If so then you can cut up said notice. I would.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:48:22pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:48:36pm

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

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presidential material

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wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:49:47pm

re: #371 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Chocolate.

OK, maybe we do need a Space Force.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:50:03pm

re: #373 PhillyPretzel

Do you own a good paper shears? If so then you can cut up said notice. I would.

I do indeed. Perhaps I’ll do that later, when I’ll get fewer confused looks from the family. Ah, the joys of being the sole liberal in a conservative household.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:50:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:50:48pm
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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:51:13pm

re: #368 Targetpractice

Ah, a tragedy. I just received my “I’m so awesome for giving you $1,200 of your own money!” letter from Chief Running Eagle, yet I don’t own a paper shredder and it’s now too warm even at night to use the paper as a fire starter.

I got that letter last week. It felt like a campaign ad on White House stationary, in an IRS envelop. Which, really seems like it shouldn’t be legal, alas… Senate Republicans are a caucus of cowards.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:51:47pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You will notice that Trump only became seriously interested in politics when Obama was POTUS and when Clinton was his likely successor. Trump is the epitome of white male privilege in this country. And that’s how he was able to be treated seriously as a presidential candidate despite showing an astounding ignorance on the issues.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:52:15pm

In one exchange specifically mentioning Jerusalem, the document alleges Stone in communication with a high-ranking official in the Israeli capital.

“Roger, hello from Jerusalem,” the document reads. “Any progress? He is going to be defeated unless we intervene. We have critical intell [sic]. The key is in your hands! Back in the US next week. How is your Pneumonia? Thank you.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:52:23pm

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe if we put cardboard cutouts of Ivanka in the empty seats he could live with it?

/

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:52:26pm

re: #360 Dread Pirate

The largest outbreak of COVID-19 in Colorado is at Sterling Correctional Facility. 238 people have tested positive there. Jails and prisons are petri dishes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:53:09pm

re: #380 KGxvi

I got that letter last week. It felt like a campaign ad on White House stationary, in an IRS envelop. Which, really seems like it shouldn’t be legal, alas… Senate Republicans are a caucus of cowards.

and free franked postage?

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:53:13pm

re: #381 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You will notice that Trump only became seriously interested in politics when Obama was POTUS and when Clinton was his likely successor. Trump is the epitome of white male privilege in this country. And that’s how he was able to be treated seriously as a presidential candidate despite showing an astounding ignorance on the issues.

Two thoughts:

1. “seriously” is doing some Olympic quality heavy lifting there.
2. he got interested when Obama roasted him for his birtherism bullshit at the WHCD

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:54:17pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He never expected to win. It was supposed to be like everything else he’s done for the past three decades, a means of boosting his “brand” while the reality is he’s one bank calling in his debts away from being rendered penniless. He’d spend his days whining on Twitter about President Clinton and how horribly she was running everything, while grifting from the rubes by promising to get “justice” for the “rigged” election.

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wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:54:18pm

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

and free franked postage?

goddamnedfrank

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:54:30pm

re: #382 Dread Pirate

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I’m hoping a Biden victory in the fall will strike the beginning of the end for the other officials who owe their rise to Trump and Trumpism.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:54:51pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:55:12pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:55:24pm

re: #372 Targetpractice

As I’ve said before, that will be the dogma come November: “It could have been worse!”

And what’s this “we” business, Donny? You’ve done all of jack and shit to address this crisis and been an active hindrance at more than one point.

the flip side is also true: it could have easily been significantly much better

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:55:45pm

re: #388 wrenchwench

goddamnedfrank

Hey now, be careful. Invoking his name can cause him to appear.

///

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:56:37pm

re: #386 KGxvi

Two thoughts:

1. “seriously” is doing some Olympic quality heavy lifting there.
2. he got interested when Obama roasted him for his birtherism bullshit at the WHCD

Yeah fair enough but I wonder what he hoped to accomplish from the Birtherism in the first place. I think everyone had Romney as the heir to McCain as the GOP standard bearer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:56:41pm
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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:57:52pm

re: #363 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Fourteen tweets, in which the founder of the Me Too movement throws her support behind Tara Reade.

I’m mostly staying away from this, but as someone posted over at DK, her stories have been so inconsistent Ronan Farrow won’t go near it.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:57:55pm

re: #368 Targetpractice

Ah, a tragedy. I just received my “I’m so awesome for giving you $1,200 of your own money!” letter from Chief Running Eagle, yet I don’t own a paper shredder and it’s now too warm even at night to use the paper as a fire starter.

for your dining and dancing pleasure:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:58:05pm

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We’re not going to do mass deportations during a fucking pandemic.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:58:33pm

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

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IOW, the man is taking steps to further slow down the restoration of the economy in order to attain something he couldn’t get otherwise.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:58:36pm

re: #396 Belafon

I’m mostly staying away from this, but as someone posted over at DK, her stories have been so inconsistent Ronan Farrow won’t go near it.

Yeah there’s a lot of inconsistency here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:58:47pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:00:30pm

re: #397 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

for your dining and dancing pleasure:

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Ah, nourishment for the soul.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:01:04pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

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maybe nuance but he totally wants to be in charge
what he doesnt want is any of the blame

power without the responsibility
just like the 2A nuts

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:01:08pm
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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:01:19pm

re: #394 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah fair enough but I wonder what he hoped to accomplish from the Birtherism in the first place. I think everyone had Romney as the heir to McCain as the GOP standard bearer.

Well, he’s been a fairly racist POS most of his life. So there’s that. But I suspect he also saw an opportunity to build a customer base among the Alex Jones crowd for his various snake oil product lines. Then as everyone said, he didn’t expect to win, just to build his brand - he probably figured he’d lose the primary (if not for sure in the general) and could build his brand railing against the establishment.

Which is funny, when you consider he’s a second/third generation business owner who has (in theory) a massive real estate portfolio based mostly in the most expensive market (NYC). But nobody said that he or his true believers had much self-awareness.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:01:34pm
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calochortus  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:01:41pm

re: #401 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Perhaps someone will explain to me how adults will go back to work while schools and daycares are closed. Oh, I know! Grandma and Grandpa will take care of them. Unless they are over 65…oh.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:02:51pm

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

and free franked postage?

charged to the irs budget

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:05:52pm

re: #359 calochortus

Yeah, an 81 year old has a life expectancy that is >-1 year.

And “Carrousel” is not far over the horizon.
//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:07:11pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:10:40pm

re: #391 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Related to actual health policy, or attempting to punish “blue” counties by thinking the residents there will go and spend money in “red” ones?

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:11:10pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:13:56pm

re: #363 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Fourteen tweets, in which the founder of the Me Too movement throws her support behind Tara Reade.

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Tarana says that victims shouldn’t be used as political pawns, immediately gets deluged with Berners screaming that she’s defending Biden and needs to demand he drop from the race so their Socialist Sugar Daddy can be the nominee.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:16:20pm

re: #396 Belafon

I’m mostly staying away from this, but as someone posted over at DK, her stories have been so inconsistent Ronan Farrow won’t go near it.

i think the ‘movement’ is missing the point.
it’s not about ‘support’
and it’s not about standards of proof.

what it is about is not dismissing an allegation *a priori*.
no one is required to ‘support’ the claimant *after* whatever info comes to light.
the rest of us are perfectly welcome to apply our critical thinking skills and not accept an allegation.

because none of this is courtroom level evidence or standard of proof.
it’s way too late for that.
so it’s the public forum and there’s rarely exoneration there.

whatever did or didnt happen, biden’s not gonna admit anything now. his position is set. so there’s nothing for him to ‘do’.

with the current facts, this isn’t going anywhere. for her, or for him.
everyone’s just gonna thrash a lot of ‘information’ that ‘everyone’ knows that doesnt sufficiently *prove* anything.

so unless more, *credible* women come forward, this is going nowhere.

however, *if* biden really did it
and more evidence did come out
and the dem position imploded and he then felt he had to withdraw
here is one solid fact
the DNC does not pick bernie.
no, it does not.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:20:37pm

re: #390 Charles Johnson

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I haven’t gotten any emails from Parscale in awhile. Before all this it was at least one a week.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:20:55pm

re: #412 DodgerFan1988

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my mom’s 91
lives alone
in her own house
drove until 6 months ago (eye problems)
does her own cooking, baking, cleaning.
NYT crosswords
doesnt need a cane (yet)
ben’s a ass

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:21:09pm

re: #363 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Fourteen tweets, in which the founder of the Me Too movement throws her support behind Tara Reade.

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There is a whole bunch of word salad in there because she is walking a tightrope over Mt. Doom.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:21:57pm

re: #417 The Pie Overlord!

There is a whole bunch of word salad in there because she is walking a tightrope over Mt. Doom.

And the eagles are not going to arrive.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:26:37pm

re: #417 The Pie Overlord!

There is a whole bunch of word salad in there because she is walking a tightrope over Mt. Doom.

she’s conflating being ‘heard’ with being believed
since she’s decided who she believes, biden must behave the way she wants

because if he doesnt there are only two conclusions:
- he’s a creep who did it (whatever ‘it’ is) and is hiding it
- he didnt do it and therefore she’s just plain wrong (and that just cannot be!)

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:28:16pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

Re Starfleet HQ:

No weather in Alpha Quadrant quite as good as California weather

Lots of capitals are in backwater places. See most US state capitals

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:30:18pm

re: #415 GlutenFreeJesus

I haven’t gotten any emails from Parscale in awhile. Before all this it was at least one a week.

Talk about someone who knows where all the bodies are buried. Please trump, fuck him over. Do it.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:30:49pm

Like I said this morning, the Biden campaign has no reason to say more than they have: “He denies it, we deny it, but we welcome the press to investigate and reach their own conclusions.” So far the major outlets that have actually looked into her allegations have been forced to admit they can’t find any corroboration beyond her word or the word of her “witnesses,” and we’ve have confirmation in the past 24 hours that the key “witness” in the WaPo article (Reade’s younger brother) was coached to change his story.

The media’s been tasked to do their job and inform the public, but all they really want to do is stage a fight and then sell tickets to spectators.

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:31:50pm

Totally cool, totally normal, NBD TBH:

As he huddled with advisers on Friday evening, President Donald Trump was still fuming over his sliding poll numbers and the onslaught of criticism he was facing for suggesting a day earlier that ingesting disinfectant might prove effective against coronavirus.

Within moments, the President was shouting — not at the aides in the room, but into the phone — at his campaign manager Brad Parscale, three people familiar with the matter told CNN. Shifting the blame away from himself, Trump berated Parscale for a recent spate of damaging poll numbers, even at one point threatening to sue Parscale. It’s not clear how serious the President’s threat of a lawsuit was.

Also: hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:33:34pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

Well, if years of watching scifi has taught me anything, it’s that humans are always somehow the missing piece in a massive galactic puzzle that leads to a beneficial future for all. That’s how we went from a bunch of backward savages that nearly nuked ourselves into extinction into the center of a united federation of planets in under a century.

//

That’s one of the reason’s I loved Andromeda… even if Kevin Sorbo is a bit of a douchecanoe. It was one of the few SciFi series I remember where Earth and humans were not the center of a great galactic government.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:33:41pm

re: #423 KGxvi

I suspect Parscale knows just how empty a threat of a lawsuit actually is.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:34:39pm

re: #423 KGxvi

Totally cool, totally normal, NBD TBH:

Also: hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

So, basically the meeting scene from Downfall.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:34:56pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:35:16pm

re: #371 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Chocolate.

The Snickers must flow.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:35:24pm

re: #425 Belafon

I suspect Parscale knows just how empty a threat of a lawsuit actually is.

“So you diverted money to your daughter-in-law and Jr’s “girlfriend” how?”

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:36:37pm

re: #428 Decatur Deb

The Snickers must flow.

He who controls the cocoa…controls the universe!

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Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:40:49pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:47:30pm

Evening Lizardim from the windy but beautiful wild north country. New parts are stacking up in my house as I prep to continue work on Mrs. Fish’s ‘79 Lincoln, sadly abandoned in last year’s severe mental distress. New numbers are new records almost all the way around: 2915 tested, up to 66744; 463 new positives, up to 4644; 17 dead, up to 318. We are seeing the results of focusing testing in areas of high risk, and while I know our Republican dumbshits are undoubtedly hoping to get reopened soon, it’s clear that we have some ways to go to be confident enough to try. How go things among the lizardfolk on this lovely spring evening?

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:49:13pm

re: #431 Dave In Austin

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Justin, you ran as a TP candidate, one of the ugliest and more hyperpartisan movements seen in recent decades. You were a loyal Republican right up to the point that you began to realize that you might not win reelection in a year where Trump would be on the ballot. And you’ve since dropped that bid because the GOP refuses to take your ass back.

So let us dispense with the bull.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:52:30pm

re: #424 KGxvi

That’s one of the reason’s I loved Andromeda… even if Kevin Sorbo is a bit of a douchecanoe. It was one of the few SciFi series I remember where Earth and humans were not the center of a great galactic government.

A BIT of a douchecanoe? I’d say he’s into full on territory by now.

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garzooma  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:52:43pm

Saw this on my Facebook feed:

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:52:51pm

re: #432 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim from the windy but beautiful wild north country. New parts are stacking up in my house as I prep to continue work on Mrs. Fish’s ‘79 Lincoln, sadly abandoned in last year’s severe mental distress. New numbers are new records almost all the way around: 2915 tested, up to 66744; 463 new positives, up to 4644; 17 dead, up to 318. We are seeing the results of focusing testing in areas of high risk, and while I know our Republican dumbshits are undoubtedly hoping to get reopened soon, it’s clear that we have some ways to go to be confident enough to try. How go things among the lizardfolk on this lovely spring evening?

Quiet day. Warmer and some sunshine so I sat outside with a cup of tea for a while.

Going to listen to a Zoom presentation on “Mass Extinctions” in a few minutes being presented by a professor I know.

And maybe getting together with some family on-line this evening to try out ability to remote play Jackbox games.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:53:26pm
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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:55:09pm

re: #434 Eclectic Cyborg

A BIT of a douchecanoe? I’d say he’s into full on territory by now.

I was trying to be generous because I always loved the campiness of the Adventures of Hercules.

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Citizen K  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:55:26pm

re: #436 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Quiet day. Warmer and some sunshine so I sat outside with a cup of tea for a while.

Going to listen to a Zoom presentation on “Mass Extinctions” in a few minutes being presented by a professor I know.

And maybe getting together with some family on-line this evening to try out ability to remote play Jackbox games.

My Discord friends have been doing some fairly regular Jackboxing, and it’s been a godsend. I just wish they were more about the trivia games in the pack, since I’m a big trivia nut.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:02:55pm

Lre: #431 Dave In Austin

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You got elected during the Tea Party wave. Biden got elected during a very bad election year for Democrats.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:03:27pm

re: #431 Dave In Austin

I’m saving that pic. Perfecto.

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makeitstop  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:03:33pm

re: #415 GlutenFreeJesus

I haven’t gotten any emails from Parscale in awhile. Before all this it was at least one a week.

It would be pretty cool if he shitcanned his ‘cyber guru.’ He could go back to building Wordpress sites.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 30, 2020 • 3:31:00am

re: #105 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Surprised that in 2020 there are still stores that don’t take credit cards.

My favorite bar here in town is cash and carry, no credit or debit cards. He broke down a year or so ago and put in an ATM, but it charges like $3.50 a transaction. I just make sure to grab some cash if I am going to go hang out there. I love the look on the college kids faces when they try to pay with their cards, like they just stepped onto Mars of something. They can’t believe he doesn’t take cards. But us old shot and beer type don’t care much at all.


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