The Bob Cesca Podcast: Sitting in Vomit

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Sitting In Vomit — [Explicit Language] Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Trump is limiting his Trump Shows; But he’s held three in the last 24 hours; Trump moves the goalposts on the death toll; America surpasses one million cases; 1917 or 1918 was over 100 years ago; Trump just learned about sarcasm; Trump was repeatedly warned about COVID in a series of PDBs; Red Hat protests continue; North Carolina protest leader tests positive; We need another massive stimulus; Mike Pence maskless at the Mayo clinic; Biden leads nationally by 10; Rachel Bitecofer’s new election forecast; With music by Sister Species and After The Fight; and more!

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gocart mozart  Apr 28, 2020 • 2:59:37pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:00:40pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:03:24pm

No shitshow briefing today?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:04:34pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

We should be that lucky.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:09:28pm

If the virus did not happen I would be at the polls today. To be honest I wish I were at the polls chatting with my neighbors. We would be discussing all sorts of subjects from arts and crafts to work. I really miss that.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:12:02pm

re: #5 PhillyPretzel

If the virus did not happen I would be at the polls today. To be honest I wish I were at the polls chatting with my neighbors. We would be discussing all sorts of subjects from arts and crafts to work. I really miss that.

*Crosses fingers* Perhaps November.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:12:30pm

From the previous thread:
re: #315 Florida Panhandler

The Grapes of Wrath is probably without question gone as well.

These books are gaining ground in an Alaskan town after a school board voted to remove them from class (CNN)

(CNN)Ever since an Alaska school board voted to remove five books from elective high school classes, the titles of the works have come alive throughout the community.

One city council member reads excerpts from her favorite book on Facebook every night. An attorney began a movement to reward students who read them. Hundreds have joined a Facebook group to voice their opposition to the removal. And a local bookstore owner says donations have been pouring in since the vote from community members who want her shop to give teenagers those books for free.

“There’s been a huge response from the community,” says Mary Ann Cockle, owner of Fireside Books in Palmer. “The outpouring of support and concern about banning and censorship has been quite a surprise — but in a good way.”

(more)

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Thanos  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:14:35pm

re: #5 PhillyPretzel

If the virus did not happen I would be at the polls today. To be honest I wish I were at the polls chatting with my neighbors. We would be discussing all sorts of subjects from arts and crafts to work. I really miss that.

In Kansas the dems flipped the election to mail in, and we are up 352% over 2016 totals, and have until 5/2 to keep getting ballots.

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Jay C  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:14:46pm

DAMN!
Meaningless Milestone Missed!
So busy obsessing over diligently following LGF today, I only just noticed I’d finally broken the 25,000 karma mark!

Thanks all.
I’ll try to be more up on it for 30,000….

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:15:49pm

re: #9 Jay C

Congrats. :)

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Thanos  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:18:23pm

It’s Spring, the chokecherry is doing it’s crazy blossoming thing.

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Thanos  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:19:55pm

Due in late September

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:23:49pm

re: #5 PhillyPretzel

If the virus did not happen I would be at the polls today. To be honest I wish I were at the polls chatting with my neighbors. We would be discussing all sorts of subjects from arts and crafts to work. I really miss that.

Mom served as the Judge Of Elections for our precinct in Ambridge PA for 40 years until she was voted out in 1993 by 4 votes.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:24:15pm

Momentous post of yesterday:

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Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:26:40pm

Today’s Owlage

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:27:14pm

re: #9 Jay C

DAMN!
Meaningless Milestone Missed!
So busy obsessing over diligently following LGF today, I only just noticed I’d finally broken the 25,000 karma mark!

Thanks all.
I’ll try to be more up on it for 30,000….

Congradumalashuns! You can use your LGF Frequent Flyer Miles points to book a cruise on your favourite cruise line.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:29:39pm

Meanwhile, south of the equator a Trump-equivalent thinks government should be a family affair as well.

reuters.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:30:04pm

re: #13 Joe Bacon 🌹

Mom served as the Judge Of Elections for our precinct in Ambridge PA for 40 years until she was voted out in 1993 by 4 votes.

Those kinds of unsung elected positions are part of the backbone of a representative democracy.

Your mother was a dedicated public servant.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:30:34pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Several books that were not removed from classrooms still came under harsh scrutiny. “The Jungle” and “A Christmas Carol” could be interpreted as advocating for socialism.

Damn man, not even Santa Claus is safe from these assholes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:31:11pm

Yeah. But that was another signal that my home town was turning from bright blue to now it’s ruby red.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:31:38pm

re: #17 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Meanwhile, south of the equator a Trump-equivalent thinks government should be a family affair as well.

reuters.com

[pedant]
The Equator passes through Brazil. Part of the country is north of it.
[/pedant]

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:31:43pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

Several books that were not removed from classrooms still came under harsh scrutiny. “The Jungle” and “A Christmas Carol” could be interpreted as advocating for socialism.

Damn man, not even Santa Claus is safe from these assholes.

Heaven forbid a book show a miser being frightened into being charitable!
///

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:32:40pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Yes. And being a committee person and a defacto minority inspector is also a important on election day.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:33:04pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

Several books that were not removed from classrooms still came under harsh scrutiny. “The Jungle” and “A Christmas Carol” could be interpreted as advocating for socialism.

Damn man, not even Santa Claus is safe from these assholes.

Santa Claus is a socialist. He distributes free stuff to everyone regardless of social station or political connexions.

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jaunte  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:33:43pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:33:57pm

re: #14 retired cynic

Momentous post of yesterday:

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microsoft will not dictate how my typesetting is done
neither will quickbooks tell me how accounting entries ‘should’ be made

their software are tools
they are not the rules or regulations
if they’re gonna dictate how things must be done, i’ll find other software
(which i did long ago)

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plansbandc  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:34:37pm

re: #11 Thanos

Mmm choke cherries!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:34:52pm

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Santa Claus is a socialist. He distributes free stuff to everyone regardless of social station or political connexions.

santa claus is not ‘the government’ so ….not //

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:35:32pm

re: #12 Thanos

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Thought only Peace Talks was coming out in 2020.
Guessing Mr.Butcher ended up having too much material to squeeze into just one book and split it, since two DF books in one year is unprecedented…

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Jay C  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:35:59pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Congradumalashuns! You can use your LGF Frequent Flyer Miles points to book a cruise on your favourite cruise line.

But only American-registered and American-crewed ones, right? 😉

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danarchy  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:36:04pm

re: #12 Thanos

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Wow, nothing since like 2015 and he is releasing 2 dresden files books in the next 6 months? Someone has been doing a little quarantine writing.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:36:11pm

today’s activity:

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:37:00pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

Several books that were not removed from classrooms still came under harsh scrutiny. “The Jungle” and “A Christmas Carol” could be interpreted as advocating for socialism.

Damn man, not even Santa Claus is safe from these assholes.

This is one of those moments where they’re confessing about what they really feel and not realizing it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:37:42pm

re: #15 Dave In Austin

Today’s Owlage

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Awww. It must be hard, their leaving the nest, huh, grandpa?

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:38:02pm

If it hasn’t been posted here yet:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:38:22pm

I’m off for a nap. Turns out my house is drafty with 50mph winds.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:38:37pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:39:58pm

re: #37 Dave In Austin

I hope Patrick Stewart lives to be 100. That man is a treasure.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:40:37pm

re: #34 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This will be our 4th clutch, They will hang around the yard for another week or 2 while they learn the basics then down to the creek for forever.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:47:30pm

re: #37 Dave In Austin

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I love Captain Picard!

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:51:41pm

re: #317 danarchy

Man, Trump is a shit show, but it kills me people have such a low opinion of the US. We have 24 potential vaccines in development in the US, 2 of them already in phase 1 trials. We still have many of the best research institutions and minds in the world and while that doesn’t guarantee we will be the first to a vaccine I also wouldn’t bet against it.

That being said everybody would probably be better off if we all worked cooperatively. And Trump is a dick

What I believe is that Trump is fucking things up and he is making shit worse. And part of what he is doing is killing people and, rather than having us work together, he’s got people fighting against each other and for their lives.

But I do wonder how effective his rule is since many companies are international.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:52:08pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:53:35pm

Man, the GOP is really terrified of having to go Vegan for awhile, aren’t they?

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:54:02pm

re: #12 Thanos

Two of them in a single year to make up for the four years missed :) I’m really grateful that one of my accomplishments of this quarantine time was to read every bit of this series that is currently out - from Storm Front to Skin Game with all the shorts as well - Zoo Day was so glorious. I am so looking forward to Peace Talks and Battle Ground that I can’t even begin to express it.

Only a new Vorkosigan novel would make me more excited.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:54:45pm

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

A lot of them have no idea that veggies taste so good or even how to cook them correctly.

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:55:33pm

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Santa Claus is a socialist. He distributes free stuff to everyone regardless of social station or political connexions.

When he’s not being a Norse god… Oh, still wrapped up in thinking about Harry Dresden. Sorry, carry on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:56:08pm

re: #28 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

santa claus is not ‘the government’ so ….not //

nor does he distribute “free stuff” equally

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:57:00pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

nor does he distribute “free stuff” equally

“Daddy, why does Santa Claus always give the white kids more stuff then the black kids?”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 28, 2020 • 3:57:14pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Carne et circenses

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:08:00pm
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jaunte  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:09:22pm

The WELL FED people will have their meat.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:12:11pm

I confess the meat packing closures spooked me. We stocked up a lot. And in the hands of excellent leadership, I could see ordering a place to stay open so you can-#1 empty and disinfect a place #2 Test the whole crew and allow only negative employees to work. #3 From anywhere in the country, civilian or military, get enough crew to have #1 and #2. 3 shifts. Regular tests, daily fever check.

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jeffreyw  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:13:45pm

peachwood smoked bacon in a nice spaghetti carbonara

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:16:00pm

I can’t remember the last time I bought meat (as is, just meat) at the store. Most of my diet is probably plant based, though I do eat meals which include some dead animals, e.g. chicken fettuccine, or pizza.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:19:52pm

re: #54 jeffreyw

Good idea. I’ll get a pig belly at the international market and make a bacon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:20:54pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:21:13pm

Yesterday the IHME model was updated. I expected some big changes for Louisiana and sure enough the estimated deaths through 4 Aug increased by about 20%, to a bit over 2k. Estimated total deaths in the US increased to over 74k.

Summer will bring revelations.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:23:16pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:24:24pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another one who skipped history classes.

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stpaulbear  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:24:30pm

re: #37 Dave In Austin

He’s a treasure, but in 2001 Patrick Stewart and Mercedes Ruehl starred in a production of Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf at the Guthrie Theater in Minneapolis. I know that it’s pretty hard to not compare it to the searing version by Liz and Dick, but the Guthrie’s production was underwhelming. I really wanted to like it, but Patrick and Mercedes did not shine.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:24:31pm

matzo meal pancakes

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:24:52pm

re: #39 gocart mozart

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Video

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My high school band covered this in the early 80s. I think we did pretty well. Thanks for posting.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:28:08pm

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, the GOP is really terrified of having to go Vegan for awhile, aren’t they?

i know what you mean and without being too pedantic, no one’s going vegan

barely vegetarian

there’s fish, all kinds of dairy products, etc

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:30:13pm

re: #64 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

They are also lactose intolerant.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:34:42pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:37:37pm
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plansbandc  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:38:21pm

The R’s on my FB are livid that the country hasn’t completely reopened. A couple of them are talking about suing the states they are in because of the business closures.

I guess the virus really IS a hoax to them. Holy crap.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:39:46pm

Evening Lizardim. To start: FUCK YOU, MIKE PENCE. GET YOUR TRASHY NO-MASK-WEARING ASS OUT OF MY STATE, AND DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR ASS ON THE WAY OUT.

Alright. I got that out of my system. It’s a rainy day here in the wild north country, accompanied by a lot of mental and emotional damage. It’s starting to take its toll on fishfolk and I am struggling to hold the family together.

New numbers: 2561 new tested, up to 63829, showing a sustained uptick since last week; 365 new positives, for a total of 4181; 15 new dead, up to 301. The increase in positives/test is due to the fact that they are starting to focus testing on vulnerable and symptomatic populations first. How go things among the lizardfolk on this raw, miserable spring day?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:42:04pm

re: #68 plansbandc

The R’s on my FB are livid that the country hasn’t completely reopened. A couple of them are talking about suing the states they are in because of the business closures.

I guess the virus really IS a hoax to them. Holy crap.

They’re becoming convinced by these charlatans who throw around impressively fake numbers to convince them that the country should reopen because it it’s basically the flu.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:43:31pm

re: #12 Thanos

…and Peace Talks is coming earlier in the summer.

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Thanos  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:47:45pm

re: #45 William Lewis

Two of them in a single year to make up for the four years missed :) I’m really grateful that one of my accomplishments of this quarantine time was to read every bit of this series that is currently out - from Storm Front to Skin Game with all the shorts as well - Zoo Day was so glorious. I am so looking forward to Peace Talks and Battle Ground that I can’t even begin to express it.

Only a new Vorkosigan novel would make me more excited.

I just re read the entire Expanse series, can’t wait for the next.

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Thanos  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:54:26pm

We canvased the nurseries and plant stores today, but could only find about 1/2 the varieties of garden herbs and spices we normally plant around our deck to keep the bugs away. You would think they would have more, I expect a lot more people to be gardening this year, the retail outlets should as well.

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:54:46pm

re: #72 Thanos

I just re read the entire Expanse series, can’t wait for the next.

Those were good too, but in a weird way (even though I did read the early books first) I’ve come to like the show more. Be interesting to see what they do with season 5 :D

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:55:23pm

re: #68 plansbandc

The R’s on my FB are livid that the country hasn’t completely reopened. A couple of them are talking about suing the states they are in because of the business closures.

I guess the virus really IS a hoax to them. Holy crap.

I posted this on April 4th.

The truth is we’re not.

To be honest, I doubt Americans have the patience for it. The plutocrats are already floating a few trial balloons - graded isolation of just the elderly, 100k deaths are a small price to pay, and so forth - to see what Americans will tolerate. The answer, as always, is that they will tolerate anything they’re told to if the TV repeats it enough, and it will be hard to keep people caring about something as abstract as deaths.

Isolation has slowly started to work in the hardest hit areas. Spain and Italy are losing about a thousand people a day, but the doubling rate has slowed considerably. While the US is behind the curve a bit, I expect that doubling rate will also slow, as it has elsewhere, and we may well start to see the curve level off, maybe at 30,000 deaths or so. At that point, we will have been on lockdown for at least two weeks, which is practically an eternity. The voices crying that 30,000 deaths is a tiny amount, less than car accidents, less than the flu, and that the experts know nothing because they predicted a million deaths and here we are doing fine, will become overwhelming. After a few weeks of isolation, 30,000 or so deaths will seem meaningless, especially when they expected 100k at least. The god emperor will be praised as a deity for only 30,000 deaths. Those who say that isolation is working and we should keep doing what’s working will be scorned as fearmongers. And America will reopen.

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Thanos  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:56:26pm

re: #74 William Lewis

Those were good too, but in a weird way (even though I did read the early books first) I’ve come to like the show more. Be interesting to see what they do with season 5 :D

Yes the show is great, — the casting and the writing as well as the quality of production are in the upper echelons as far as SF for Television goes.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:57:01pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 28, 2020 • 4:58:57pm

A clear day in the neighborhood:

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:00:00pm

A turkey looking for a girlfriend:

And a very cheerful flower.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:00:44pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

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No, we’re just too fucking polite.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:02:30pm

re: #79 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

A turkey looking for a girlfriend:

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“Hey there, Pilgrim.”

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:06:08pm
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Thanos  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:08:35pm

re: #78 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Missouri cities during the lockdown

KC-area cities nearly empty during the COVID-19 lockdowns. Here’s what they look like from above

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:11:41pm

re: #83 Thanos

After 9/11 the planes all got grounded. Big thing then right? I so recall the quiet (being near Burbank) and the sheer lack of contrails. In the early days, one could sometimes hear a fighter jet passing over. AIRCAP when a follow-up attack was though possible.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:14:32pm

Michael Pence is dumber than George Bush.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:15:07pm
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Thanos  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:15:13pm

re: #84 Rightwingconspirator

I remember those days, the only thing airborne that we saw were contrails from Knob Knoster.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:30:57pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

This feels like the legalization of slavery. Trump is forcing low income workers to risk their lives; most likely without protective gear. This is outrageous.

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:33:23pm

re: #88 Patricia Kayden

This feels like the legalization of slavery. Trump is forcing low income workers to risk their lives; most likely without protective gear. This is outrageous.

Perhaps that’s the key - to have someone sue based on the 13th amendment. Even if it get’s smacked down by the Billionaires Court it will help this fall.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:42:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:44:08pm
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Sherlock Hound  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:44:40pm

Expect this angle on Biden now.

Translation: “It is not a surprise to see Hillary Clinton support Joe Biden because there does not seem to be a sexual predator that she does not like”, in particular tweeted an association president”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:46:59pm

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:48:33pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:50:19pm

So Amish is running 3rd Party.

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Interesting Times  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:53:13pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:53:39pm
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Jay C  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:54:12pm

re: #95 Dave In Austin

So Amish is running 3rd Party.

So what’s his slogan gonna be: “Get Bustin’ for Justin”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:56:44pm
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sagehen  Apr 28, 2020 • 5:57:18pm

re: #64 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

i know what you mean and without being too pedantic, no one’s going vegan

barely vegetarian

there’s fish, all kinds of dairy products, etc

They can use their many guns to git theyselves a buncha deer, rabbits, ducks, wild boar, etc…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:03:13pm
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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:04:43pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, all we’ll know is that he will be sick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:05:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:06:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:08:37pm
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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:12:39pm
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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:13:02pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:14:56pm

re: #106 Belafon

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Let’s be fair, though: Those of us who are cat people, who could honestly say that they have not yeeted one of their animals at some point in their life?

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aatharuv  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:16:05pm

Of course the question is whether he will take more votes from Trump who wouldn’t have voted Democrat, than from people who would have voted Democrat without him on the ballot.

And the really important question is how he’ll poll in Michigan.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:17:06pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:18:09pm

re: #109 aatharuv

Of course the question is whether he will take more votes from Trump who wouldn’t have voted Democrat, than from people who would have voted Democrat without him on the ballot.

And the really important question is how he’ll poll in Michigan.

Getting a little queasy feeling, but hopefully it’ll pass.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:20:05pm

Maybe he drops at the last minute and throws support to Biden? Crap. Not a welcome development right before bedtime.

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aatharuv  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:23:34pm

re: #112 Barefoot Grin

Maybe he drops at the last minute and throws support to Biden? Crap. Not a welcome development right before bedtime.

Bill Weld (LP VP nominee, former MA governor), ~basically did that at the last moment, but the LP still did their best ever (though like for most third parties, much lower than they polled).

Of course, there are _far_ fewer people who are willing to go third party this time. Hopefully.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:24:15pm

Rockwall announced 17 more cases today. 5 in the city of Rockwall, two in Royse City, 1 in Fate, and 9 at that long term care facility, Broadmoor. The county is now at 89, and I think 16 of them are at that place alone.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:26:20pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds (R) said in her state, it will be considered a “voluntary quit” if an employee refuses to return to work once businesses reopen, thereby losing access to unemployment benefits.

Dear working stiff—If you ever voted a union down or out, take what you fucking get.

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aatharuv  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:28:08pm

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

Getting a little queasy feeling, but hopefully it’ll pass.

So the LP does have primaries, but they’re non-binding. Even though Vermin Supreme* has won 2 states, and Jacob Hornberger (Blogger) has won 6, they could be overriden by the delegates to their convention, the process for which I haven’t been able to figure out, other than it’s proportional to the LP’s 2016 presidential vote share.

*Really

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:31:02pm

re: #114 Belafon

I went to Rockwall’s emergency management facebook page, and found this update:

Broadmoor Medical Lodge Update: All testing of residents and staff is complete. To date, there are a total of 26 COVID-19 cases, 20 residents, and 6 staff. Of these 26 cases, 11 were asymptomatic and showed no signs of having COVID-19. This is why it’s important to wear a mask when around others, asymptomatic spread is occurring. The total number of positive cases in this update does not match the graphic update on Facebook or the County website. This is because Broadmoor has shared real-time information with us and the Department of State Health Services (DSHS) data lags a bit behind. Prayers for all.

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teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:35:09pm

Deep breaths, people.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:40:06pm

re: #118 teleskiguy

Deep breaths, people.

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The question is, are her numbers better or worse than they would have been without the stunt?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:54:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:58:05pm
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Charmingly Persistent  Apr 28, 2020 • 6:58:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:01:14pm

re: #122 Charmingly Persistent

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that’s the devious penguin in Wallace and Gromit’s The Wrong Trousers

Wallace and Gromit - The Wrong Trousers | The Train Chase (HD)

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Dread Pirate  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:02:06pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:04:16pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:05:10pm

re: #125 Dread Pirate

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master of disguise

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:06:28pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

master of disguise

PERRY the Platypus?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:07:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:08:40pm

I wanna be in a Zoom Puppy Meeting!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:12:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:14:46pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:15:11pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:18:36pm
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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:21:48pm

re: #133 Patricia Kayden

Yes, I know they could switch to mail in ballots if there’s enough time, but just imagine having a election where people have to show up.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:22:26pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:22:32pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:23:32pm

re: #135 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Good!! Best news I’ve heard today.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:26:01pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:26:55pm

re: #134 Belafon

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Yes, I know they could switch to mail in ballots if there’s enough time, but just imagine having a election where people have to show up.

The Alabama primary is over, but the Republicans have to return to the polls 14 July for a (postponed) run-off. A senate seat is at stake. The Republican state administration has resisted any calls for easing rigid absentee ballot requirements. Should be a good test of their resolve.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:27:01pm

re: #138 Dread Pirate

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I’m starting to view this $500B as the price Democrats had to pay to get the Republicans to do anything for anyone besides the 1%.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:28:41pm

re: #138 Dread Pirate

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And this is why I view Warren’s wealth tax, even if it’s only for a few years, to be a good thing.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:33:08pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:35:30pm

re: #142 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The chart is clear. Someone flushed a toilet in the Southern Hemisphere.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:36:15pm

re: #143 Decatur Deb

The chart is clear. Someone flushed a toilet in the Southern hemisphere.

Glad to know their pipes are clear with no blockages!

I liked this reply in particular:

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gocart mozart  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:47:51pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:49:18pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:49:20pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Trump Vs. Biden Vs. Amash Vs.Ventura.

I’m just waiting to see if the Prohibition Party will nominate Roseanne…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:49:43pm

re: #45 William Lewis

Two of them in a single year to make up for the four years missed :) I’m really grateful that one of my accomplishments of this quarantine time was to read every bit of this series that is currently out - from Storm Front to Skin Game with all the shorts as well - Zoo Day was so glorious. I am so looking forward to Peace Talks and Battle Ground that I can’t even begin to express it.

Only a new Vorkosigan novel would make me more excited.

Have you read Bujold’s “Chalion” novels?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:53:38pm

re: #148 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Have you read Bujold’s “Chalion” novels?

The first pair is absolutely exquisite (Curse of Chalion and Paladin of Souls) and then the audiobooks have narrators that fit PERFECTLY for my interpretation of the characters. I’ve enjoyed some of the follow-up short stories and need to reread the third main book (which doesn’t connect as strongly to the first two anyway).

But I relisten to Curse of Chalion at least once a year.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:55:54pm

Wish Trumpsters would settle on a single conspiracy: is COVID-19 a vicious bio-weapon released from Wuhan labs or is it a less serious disease that’s no more deadly than the seasonal flu?

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:56:39pm

re: #148 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Have you read Bujold’s “Chalion” novels?

Yep. Glorious stuff too. But “The Mountains Of Mourning” in Analog a lifetime ago is where I first found her writing.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:57:23pm

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

Wish Trumpsters would settle on a single conspiracy: is COVID-19 a vicious bio-weapon released from Wuhan labs or is it a less serious disease that’s no more deadly than the seasonal flu?

The beauty of being a cultist is doublethink, so it can be both. Just like the UN can be simultaneously an impotent laughingstock and also a giant global conspiracy threatening to end freedom and democracy everywhere.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:58:47pm

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

I honestly think the point is to not settle; that would mean committing to position and thus risk being wrong. Holding contradictory positions and just choosing to not acknowledge the contradiction means you’re never wrong.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 28, 2020 • 7:58:57pm

re: #138 Dread Pirate

We should be shocked by this but we’re probably not. Wealthy businessmen are the people the Trump administration cares about. I guess the only good thing is that these are loans.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:05:57pm

Good times here in IL as some dumbass downstate lawmaker finds a sympathetic federal judge in Texas to block Gov. Pritzker’s stay-at-home extension on the day we have reached our highest one-day death total yet of 144.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:07:19pm

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

Wish Trumpsters would settle on a single conspiracy: is COVID-19 a vicious bio-weapon released from Wuhan labs or is it a less serious disease that’s no more deadly than the seasonal flu?

They do this for everything. We are the ultimate Schrodinger’s lib… Scary but wimps…everything.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:10:08pm

re: #149 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The first pair is absolutely exquisite (Curse of Chalion and Paladin of Souls) and then the audiobooks have narrators that fit PERFECTLY for my interpretation of the characters. I’ve enjoyed some of the follow-up short stories and need to reread the third main book (which doesn’t connect as strongly to the first two anyway).

But I relisten to Curse of Chalion at least once a year.

I concur that the first two are the best ones. I acquired “Penric’s Fox” recently, but am trying to find and read the other Penric story first since it precedes this one.

I’m currently rereading Iain Bank’s SF novels. (And three of the Culture novels seem to be misplaced.)

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Jack Burton  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:12:29pm

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

Wish Trumpsters would settle on a single conspiracy: is COVID-19 a vicious bio-weapon released from Wuhan labs or is it a less serious disease that’s no more deadly than the seasonal flu?

RWNJs are the masters of holding multiple mutually exclusive opinions and positions on things. Cognitive Dissonance is part of their DNA. I see no reason why this should be any different.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:13:01pm

2500 dead today. Close to 60K total. How are we not going to hit 100,000 by the election? How are the asshole repiblicans (I repeat myself) not going to try and make this number into a win for them. I was going to make a joke about flyovers and tax cuts, but I’m too tired and pissed off. I’m feeling better but the world is getting worse. Not what I wanted, but here we are.

Keep fighting.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:13:58pm

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

Gah. Anecdotes are not data. That having been said I have personal knowledge of quite a number of small mfg companies in the jewelry district that applied in the first day or two. They all told employees that was how they would keep checks coming. One employer of mine paid a month. Then just had to stop. Nothing coming in. Great guy tried really hard.

Six companies applied. Zero loans. Employees can’t get EDD until that site catches up and those checks roll. It’s tight out there, and at a better off than most level honestly.

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fern01  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:15:37pm

re: #42 Belafon

We still have many of the best research institutions and minds in the world and while that doesn’t guarantee we will be the first to a vaccine I also wouldn’t bet against it.

Most countries would prefer to get a vaccine from a country where the president doesn’t up the price to ensure he gets good royalties from it. They have more faith in other countries to do the right thing.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:20:10pm

re: #134 Belafon

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Yes, I know they could switch to mail in ballots if there’s enough time, but just imagine having a election where people have to show up.

I am absolutely in favor of mail-in ballots, but I keep looking at the covid-19 cases in WI and not seeing much election effect. There was a spike 14-18 days after the election, total of a few hundred cases. That’s out of nearly a million ballots cast. Even with those included, the overall “progress” in WI doesn’t look like it was affected much.

Still want to see absentee voting everywhere, but 300/1,000,000 is a risk I would be willing to take to cast my vote (much less arduous than crawling over ground glass).

Full disclosure: I’m from California, I won’t have to.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:20:45pm

re: #159 I Would Prefer Not To

2500 dead today. Close to 60K total. How are we not going to hit 100,000 by the election? How are the asshole repiblicans (I repeat myself) not going to try and make this number into a win for them. I was going to make a joke about flyovers and tax cuts, but I’m too tired and pissed off. I’m feeling better but the world is getting worse. Not what I wanted, but here we are.

Keep fighting.

It’s gonna be triple that 100K, maybe more, by Election Day and millions are gonna be sick thanks to the Typhoid Fairy in the Oval Office!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:22:42pm

re: #157 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I concur that the first two are the best ones. I acquired “Penric’s Fox” recently, but am trying to find and read the other Penric story first since it precedes this one.

I’m currently rereading Iain Bank’s SF novels. (And three of the Culture novels seem to be misplaced.)

The Penric stories are good (the ones I’ve read, at least), they just don’t rise to the same heights as the first two books.

Then again, very very few things do, IMO. :)

Penric’s Fox is the third - Amazon has them all which at least helps for figuring out read order. My library had a few of them but not all of them, which was frustrating.

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gocart mozart  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:23:33pm
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Citizen K  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:24:36pm

re: #159 I Would Prefer Not To

2500 dead today. Close to 60K total. How are we not going to hit 100,000 by the election? How are the asshole repiblicans (I repeat myself) not going to try and make this number into a win for them. I was going to make a joke about flyovers and tax cuts, but I’m too tired and pissed off. I’m feeling better but the world is getting worse. Not what I wanted, but here we are.

Keep fighting.

re: #163 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s gonna be triple that 100K, maybe more, by Election Day and millions are gonna be sick thanks to the Typhoid Fairy in the Oval Office!

Yeah, with the rush to “reopen” in GOP states plus the explicit fucking over of workers in most at-risk industries forcing them to choose between health and a check, there’s going to be an almost guaranteed surge. Buckle up, because shit’s about to get worse.

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Jack Burton  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:25:50pm

re: #162 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Full disclosure: I’m from California, I won’t have to.

I’m a permanent mail voter in California as well. But if something happened, like oh I don’t know, a Russian mobster in the white house and his cronies and sycophants shut down the Constitutionally Mandated* Postal service. I’d crawl over hot coals and broken glass to vote. Especially in this election.

*Oh how they claim to love the constitution…

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mmmirele  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:27:09pm

re: #65 PhillyPretzel

They are also lactose intolerant.

My brother was told to pull dairy out of his diet to deal with persistent GI complaints. So he did. But he bought some lactose free milk and after five days with no dairy, decided to enjoy a bowl of cereal with this milk last night for dinner. He was up all night with lower GI distress. So it doesn’t appear to be lactose that’s causing the problem. (One of my friends suggested casein is the issue?) In any case, he’s moving on to try almond milk because he really likes cereal on nights when he doesn’t feel like cooking.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:29:37pm

OK, Tara

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plansbandc  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:30:11pm

re: #168 mmmirele

Trader Joe’s unsweetened vanilla almond milk is really tasty on cereal. Califia Farms unsweetened vanilla or just unsweetened plain are both very good too.

Do not get Silk. Costco’s own brand is serviceable, but very thin.

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danarchy  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:33:12pm

re: #168 mmmirele

My brother was told to pull dairy out of his diet to deal with persistent GI complaints. So he did. But he bought some lactose free milk and after five days with no dairy, decided to enjoy a bowl of cereal with this milk last night for dinner. He was up all night with lower GI distress. So it doesn’t appear to be lactose that’s causing the problem. (One of my friends suggested casein is the issue?) In any case, he’s moving on to try almond milk because he really likes cereal on nights when he doesn’t feel like cooking.

Almond milk is fine but doesn’t really taste like milk. I have found that Oat milk tends to be a more faithful reproduction of the flavor.

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calochortus  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:37:14pm

re: #171 danarchy

Almond milk is fine but doesn’t really taste like milk. I have found that Oat milk tends to be a more faithful reproduction of the flavor.

Well, it tastes like oats, but I prefer it to almond milk, myself.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:40:51pm

re: #169 Sherlock Hound

Someone in the thread I quoted had an astounding take I’d never considered: If All Women Must Be Believed, then what about Emmet Till’s accuser? Till was beaten, brutalized and murdered over false witness.

What does that say about Tara?

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:41:03pm

re: #159 I Would Prefer Not To

2500 dead today. Close to 60K total. How are we not going to hit 100,000 by the election? How are the asshole repiblicans (I repeat myself) not going to try and make this number into a win for them. I was going to make a joke about flyovers and tax cuts, but I’m too tired and pissed off. I’m feeling better but the world is getting worse. Not what I wanted, but here we are.

Keep fighting.

Unless it slows down, we’re going to hit 100k by the middle of May.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:43:40pm

re: #162 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I am absolutely in favor of mail-in ballots, but I keep looking at the covid-19 cases in WI and not seeing much election effect. There was a spike 14-18 days after the election, total of a few hundred cases. That’s out of nearly a million ballots cast. Even with those included, the overall “progress” in WI doesn’t look like it was affected much.

Still want to see absentee voting everywhere, but 300/1,000,000 is a risk I would be willing to take to cast my vote (much less arduous than crawling over ground glass).

Full disclosure: I’m from California, I won’t have to.

I will be out voting by election day here in Texas. Actually, I plan on voting early, finding a good mask and face shield, and be out helping that day.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:50:16pm

Does anyone else remember what the plan was in Atlas Shrugged after the titans of industry disappeared?

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:52:33pm
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mmmirele  Apr 28, 2020 • 8:57:10pm

re: #160 Rightwingconspirator

Six companies applied. Zero loans. Employees can’t get EDD until that site catches up and those checks roll. It’s tight out there, and at a better off than most level honestly.

Earlier today, we had this forwarded to us:

The Small Business Administration has restricted the use of robotic processing automation, or RPA, to enter Paycheck Protection Program loan applications amid lenders’ significant difficulties accessing the E-Tran system.

*snip*

SBA is still permitting lenders to submit PPP applications through application programming interfaces, or APIs. For assistance converting an RPA process to an API, SBA advised lenders to contact agency official Sheri McConville.

bankingjournal.aba.com

My evil too big to fail employer had a bunch of loans that didn’t get submitted the last time the window was open because the window closed before the loans could get through whatever cumbersome process the SBA required. Apparently our loans were formatted for RPA, including the ones we tried to submit starting on Monday. I have no idea what we’re doing now. (Not my wheelhouse, they have someone full-time on that.)

The whole thing is an utter cluster.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 28, 2020 • 9:03:28pm

re: #178 mmmirele

IOW it’s the Florida EDD approach. Tell ya what when the Northridge earthquake hammered Los Angeles FEMA took way better care of us than this. Food stamps. Moving allowance. EDD was there, albeit not overwhelmed. Loans and grants flowed, some said too much.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2020 • 9:05:29pm

re: #169 Sherlock Hound

OK, Tara

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This woman needs help. Instead, all the Berners and MAGAts do is feed into her illness because they believe it will help them accomplish their goals.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Apr 28, 2020 • 9:21:21pm

re: #107 Belafon

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You’re missing an important point here. Look at the people Trump has surrounded himself with, along with his policy of locking immigrants up in cages, openly embracing dictators and alienating our Western European allies - and it should be mentioned about the political landscape seeing the rise of far right nationalists in the US in the 1930s.

If Trump was in the White House instead of FDR in the 30s, there is no doubt in my mind that he would have sided with the Third Reich.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2020 • 9:28:27pm

The storm is here:

We went from nothing to wind, lightning, and rain in no time:

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2020 • 9:29:23pm

re: #181 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

You’re missing an important point here. Look at the people Trump has surrounded himself with, along with his policy of locking immigrants up in cages, openly embracing dictators and alienating our Western European allies - and it should be mentioned about the political landscape seeing the rise of far right nationalists in the US in the 1930s.

If Trump was in the White House instead of FDR in the 30s, there is no doubt in my mind that he would have sided with the Third Reich.

“Why can’t we be friends with Herr Hitler? I think he’s got a lot of good ideas! At least he’s not killing his people by the millions like Stalin!”

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sagehen  Apr 28, 2020 • 9:32:39pm

re: #181 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

You’re missing an important point here. Look at the people Trump has surrounded himself with, along with his policy of locking immigrants up in cages, openly embracing dictators and alienating our Western European allies - and it should be mentioned about the political landscape seeing the rise of far right nationalists in the US in the 1930s.

If Trump was in the White House instead of FDR in the 30s, there is no doubt in my mind that he would have sided with the Third Reich.

Plot Against America
Philip Roth novel, current HBO mini-series written/produced by David Simon. Charles Lindbergh defeats FDR and does exactly that.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2020 • 9:34:42pm

re: #177 Belafon

Someone on my timeline was friends with her. There’s sadness and rage both.

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austin_blue  Apr 28, 2020 • 9:46:00pm

re: #182 Belafon

The storm is here:

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Four hours from us.

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KGxvi  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:02:25pm

So apparently Amash is considering seeking the Libertarian nomination. Can’t say I’m particularly surprised. And not entirely sure it’s a bad thing. As I mentioned earlier: any vote that is not for Trump is better than a vote that would otherwise be for Trump.

I was looking at the numbers from 2016 again and there’s a decent argument that Johnson being on the ballot in a few states may have actually helped Clinton win those states. Assuming that most of those Johnson voters would have otherwise voted for the Republican nominee.

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austin_blue  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:12:33pm

re: #187 KGxvi

So apparently Amash is considering seeking the Libertarian nomination. Can’t say I’m particularly surprised. And not entirely sure it’s a bad thing. As I mentioned earlier: any vote that is not for Trump is better than a vote that would otherwise be for Trump.

I was looking at the numbers from 2016 again and there’s a decent argument that Johnson being on the ballot in a few states may have actually helped Clinton win those states. Assuming that most of those Johnson voters would have otherwise voted for the Republican nominee.

It wasn’t the people who voted in 2016, it was the people who *didn’t* vote. It’s all about turnout. As much as we blamed Jill Stein and Johnson, the problem was the GOTV push by the Dem National Committee was woefully inadequate. They thought they had it in the bag. They fucked the dog. Did the Russians help? Hell, yes. But they still fucked the dog.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:19:14pm

hah!

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:20:38pm

re: #188 austin_blue

It wasn’t the people who voted in 2016, it was the people who *didn’t* vote. It’s all about turnout. As much as we blamed Jill Stein and Johnson, the problem was the GOTV push by the Dem National Committee was woefully inadequate. They thought they had it in the bag. They fucked the dog. Did the Russians help? Hell, yes. But they still fucked the dog.

I worked for Hillary’s campaign, and we spent the last week calling Michigan. Can’t speak for the DNC.

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austin_blue  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:23:08pm

re: #190 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I worked for Hillary’s campaign, and we spent the last week calling Michigan. Can’t speak for the DNC.

Maybe she should have gone to Michigan and Wisconsin a little more? Actually been there?

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:24:37pm

re: #189 Dread Pirate

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hah!

See no evil, Hear no evil, and Evil.

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austin_blue  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:28:23pm

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:28:28pm

Time to fill in my Nebraska Primary Ballot.

The choices are at Ballotpedia.
ballotpedia.org

The only Democrat running for NE-3 previously ran for a state office on the Legalize Marijuana Now Party ticket, so I’m guessing Adrian Smith will annihilate him in the general election.

There is also a $0.02 per $100 valuation village levy increase for the town cemetery for maintenance, capital improvements, land acquisition, &c. It expires at the end of FY 2025 (fiscal years in my village end on June 30). I don’t think that will kill me to vote “yes” for. Besides, someone will need to keep up the lawn mower for my plot there.

We got an errata letter from the county clerk regarding balloting for the school board primary. The ballot is marked “vote for one” but the errata letter says it should be “vote for three.”

It looks like half of the Village of Dalton is running for the school board on the Democratic Primary ticket.

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gwangung  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:28:32pm

re: #190 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I worked for Hillary’s campaign, and we spent the last week calling Michigan. Can’t speak for the DNC.

I think voter suppression by the Republicans worked rather well.

And the gutting of the various voting rights acts by the Court worked along those lines, too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:30:35pm

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Looking at the other parties at Ballotpedia, there’s no real surprises there except one: Lincoln Chaffee is on the Libertarian Primary ticket for President.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:45:38pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:50:03pm

LOL
Tyrant Gavin Newsom Nationalizes California Restaurants To Feed Your Nana

“The secret ingredient is Bolshevism.” (Goes to Wonkette)

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:56:17pm

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹🏡

LOL
Tyrant Gavin Newsom Nationalizes California Restaurants To Feed Your Nana

“The secret ingredient is Bolshevism.” (Goes to Wonkette)

This is some great snark;

Restaurants will be paid up to $16 for breakfasts, $17 for lunch and $28 for dinners, exactly like Pol Pot might have done during the Khmer Rouge takeover of Cambodia if he’d ruled California in 2020

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Teukka  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:57:44pm

In local news, the prosecutors are opening an investigation into the death of a Nurse at Karolinska Hospital in Huddinge, charges are occupational safety violations by means of negligent homicide… The 39-year old Nurse, who worked in the infection ward ICU’s, died of CoViD-19 the other week.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 10:59:52pm

Wonkette added a new Commenting Rule for Radicals which should probably apply in a lot of places.

5. Try not to be a bunch of goddamned misogynists. That includes calling rightwing women sluts or otherwise demeaning them solely as sexual figures. Attack their politics, not the fact that they’re women. This includes posting Melania Trump modeling photos and saying “Look at that hoor!” And no more hilarious incest jokes about Ivanka Trump. They’re basically a way of saying “Hurr hurr child rape is funny if we’re talking about Donald Trump’s family.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:03:30pm

Whoa if true.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:03:44pm

re: #201 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Wonkette added a new Commenting Rule for Radicals which should probably apply in a lot of places.

5. Try not to be a bunch of goddamned misogynists. That includes calling rightwing women sluts or otherwise demeaning them solely as sexual figures. Attack their politics, not the fact that they’re women. This includes posting Melania Trump modeling photos and saying “Look at that hoor!” And no more hilarious incest jokes about Ivanka Trump. They’re basically a way of saying “Hurr hurr child rape is funny if we’re talking about Donald Trump’s family.”

*raises hand* Can I still refer to Tomi Lahren as “White Power Barbie”?

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Teukka  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:03:45pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:04:15pm

re: #203 Targetpractice

*raises hand* Can I still refer to Tomi Lahren as “White Power Barbie”?

I’ll allow it.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:04:19pm

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Whoa if true.

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Yeah, I imagine that promise will last as long as Trump’s to stop appearing at these quasi-rallies.

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Teukka  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:12:53pm

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Whoa if true.

re: #206 Targetpractice

Yeah, I imagine that promise will last as long as Trump’s to stop appearing at these quasi-rallies.

I dunno, after the mainlining disinfectant musings followed by a spike of medical incidents involving unorthodox applications of disinfectants, they do have a valid reason…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:17:42pm

Sleepy Rango.

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Teukka  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:21:14pm

And the stats are out for my muni… 3110 infected, 557 dead, of which 341/61 in my borough… Somber reading…
Source: Region Stockholm.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:26:36pm

re: #207 Teukka

I dunno, after the mainlining disinfectant musings followed by a spike of medical incidents involving unorthodox applications of disinfectants, they do have a valid reason…

They’ve had a reason for weeks now to put the kibosh on the coverage, but they kept going back and kept making excuses about how these briefings included “vital information.” Even when doctors and medical organizations were calling bullshit on hydroxychloroquine, saying that it was untested/unverified and dangerous to take in the dosages the French quack purported to have “100% success” with, they kept letting Donny pump out to the public that it was a “cure” that doctors needed to be forced to write prescriptions for because “What do you got to lose?”

It’s not the studios talking about pulling the plug, it’s the lawyers who are scared shitless that this is starting to edge into liability territory. People have been injured or killed by shit that they ran in real-time and totally unedited. The line is starting to blur over how culpable they are and that’s got the guys in legal turning white.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:34:03pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

It’s not the studios talking about pulling the plug, it’s the lawyers who are scared shitless that this is starting to edge into liability territory. People have been injured or killed by shit that they ran in real-time and totally unedited. The line is starting to blur over how culpable they are and that’s got the guys in legal turning white.

That could be the reason. I can easily imagine the honchos at the legal departments of CNN, CBS, ABC and NBC sweating bullets over the possibility of liability lawsuits. It may be a remote possibility, but probably enough of one to keep them up at night.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 28, 2020 • 11:45:14pm

It’s days like this that I miss heroin. /

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:04:34am

The Party of Life (tm, marca registrada):

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:12:10am

CNN to Show Phone Number of Poison-Control Hotline Whenever Trump Speaks (Andy Borowitz at The New Yorker)

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—CNN announced on Tuesday that it will show the phone number of a national poison-control hotline whenever Donald Trump appears on the air.

Speaking on behalf of the network, Wolf Blitzer, the veteran anchor, said that CNN was adopting the new policy out of concern for “the health and safety of our viewers.”

“At CNN, we strive to keep our viewers informed. But, in order to do that, we must first keep them alive,” he said.

(more)

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:14:05am
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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:21:04am

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The Party of Life (tm, marca registrada):

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This is going to be a matter of dogma by the time November rolls around: “Those people were gonna die anyway! You can’t go blaming the virus on every death this year!!!”

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i(m)p(each)sos  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:24:07am

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Whoa if true.

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Except for CNN, none of the networks on that list have carried the briefings live in weeks anyway, though.

Perhaps they’re offering optional coverage to affiliates, but my local stations here have been ignoring it. Even the Sinclair station - it’s not interrupting its 5 and 6 PM newscasts on the ABC affiliate, though it also owns the Fox station in town and blows out the judge show reruns there to carry the clown show.

MSNBC still gives it some airtime. I’d be happy to see that practice end.

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TarHellion  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:36:22am

OK, folks, time to face reality.

The Tara Reade accusation isn’t going away. The WaPo has it in a sidebar on the main page, primarily due to a Business Insider post involving individuals who endorse Reade’s account.

As a 30-year former journalist, it is to the point where I would reasonably be asking Biden to make a full statement (if not an unfettered interview) regarding the contention. To be sure, there are numerous, proper questions regarding Reade’s allegation and the timing.

But Biden should recognize he has to to counter doubt to his character. Silence - or even the appearance of obfuscation - can be quite deadly..

Fair notice: I philosophically supported Warren at the outset. But I always believed Biden would win out when the contest became between just two, true Democrats.

So let’s put this crap to rest until it becomes a major issue (which it will) in the summer or fall. And if there is any chance this crap is true (despite a full VP vetting, not to mention his time in the Senate), I would deservedly be disappointed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:39:52am

re: #216 Targetpractice

This is going to be a matter of dogma by the time November rolls around: “Those people were gonna die anyway! You can’t go blaming the virus on every death this year!!!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:48:04am

re: #218 TarHellion

And that’s the thing, isn’t it? The GOP would have made up or dragged up anything and put it front-and-centre in the credulous press no matter who the candidate was. Warren? Fake Indian!!

Harris or Klobuchar? Cops!!

Buttigieg? Teh Geyh!!

Any Democrat? All communists to the left of Castro!! (and if Castro had won, you know the GOP would have drawn a false connexion between him and Cuba.)

And that wouldn’t just come from the right, it would also come from the left. I note Nebr. State Senator Megan Hunt, who in a candidate questionnaire came out front and said she was both an atheist and bi-. When asked by Hemant Mehta why she would admit that in a political campaign, she said she was staving off charges in the Democratic Primary by getting out front.

The same happened to Rep. Pete Stark in California, when Eric Swalwell took him out in a series of attack adverts claiming he was un-American for being an atheist. (I would have real problems ever voting for or supporting Swalwell if he ran for President, because I won’t vote for a bigot who thinks I’m un-American.)

Politics isn’t beanbags. If Biden addresses it at all, I think he should simply refer to previous reporting and move on.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 12:50:21am

re: #218 TarHellion

OK, folks, time to face reality.

The Tara Reade accusation isn’t going away. The WaPo has it in a sidebar on the main page, primarily due to a Business Insider post involving individuals who endorse Reade’s account.

As a 30-year former journalist, it is to the point where I would reasonably be asking Biden to make a full statement (if not an unfettered interview) regarding the contention. To be sure, there are numerous, proper questions regarding Reade’s allegation and the timing.

But Biden should recognize he has to to counter doubt to his character. Silence - or even the appearance of obfuscation - can be quite deadly..

Fair notice: I philosophically supported Warren at the outset. But I always believed Biden would win out when the contest became between just one, true Democrat.

So let’s put this crap to rest until it becomes a major issue (which it will) in the summer or fall. And if there is any chance this crap is true (despite a full VP vetting, not to mention his time in the Senate), I would deservedly be disappointed.

His campaign’s given the only answer that there needs to be: “He denies it, we deny it, but let the media do their own investigation and reach their own conclusions.” So far, the media outlets that have looked into it have come away admitting that her credibility is totally lacking and she has no answers only excuses.

And really, that’s what’s frustrating the hell out of them: He’s not playing to script. He’s not rushing the cameras to give a big televised denial, he’s not attacking her or anybody connected to her, he’s not making a big fuss about the media’s attention to the story, he’s simply telling them to do their jobs and it’s driving them batty.

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TarHellion  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:00:59am

I accept and appreciate the above analyses. But you and I both know that will not be enough. Again, sweeping something under the rug will only sow doubt. Go ahead and make a podium statement denying the accusation and lay out the reasons why. Obama cut off the race question early on. Biden can, and should, be able to do the same. I don’t believe Ms. Beade’s accusation, simply because it runs counter to everything I have known - or heard - about VP Biden. But we cannot give the other side any whiff of ammunition.

As for conclusions, Business Insider found 2 people to corroborate. Whether credible or not, that has to be acknowledged. So, yes, Joe Biden needs to speak about this.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:16:19am

re: #222 TarHellion

I accept and appreciate the above analyses. But you and I both know that will not be enough. Again, sweeping something under the rug will only sow doubt. Go ahead and make a podium statement denying the accusation and lay out the reasons why. Obama cut off the race question early on. Biden can, and should, be able to do the same. I don’t believe Ms. Beade’s accusation, simply because it runs counter to everything I have known - or heard - about VP Biden. But we cannot give the other side any whiff of ammunition.

As for conclusions, Business Insider found 2 people to corroborate. Whether credible or not, that has to be acknowledged. So, yes, Joe Biden needs to speak about this.

See, that’s the problem, BI has about as much credibility as the Daily Caller yet their headlines are being taken as “fact” that only support her case. They hide the actual transcript of the interview with the first “witness” because in it is an admission that the two hadn’t been in contact in years and didn’t reconnect until after Reade made her initial “accusation” last year. And the other only says that Reade claimed to have been the subject of sexual harassment at her last job and nothing was done about it.

There’s a reason cops interview witnesses independent of each other and make sure not to lay out all the facts of a case to the press until they’re sure they either have a suspect or they have no other choice. Both of these “witnesses” are unreliable at best, no matter what the clickbait headline BI sells the story under says.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:18:03am

re: #218 TarHellion

There are, I think, two options at hand:

1) Trump and his team may try, but they can’t play the moral high ground. For any woman who may make an accusation against Biden we can find a couple of dozen who will do so with Trump, with even cruder actions on Trump’s behalf. While the Trumpers will deny this, the rest of the electorate can see it. So I guess Biden doesn’t really need to address the allegation if he wants to play hardball and start dumping the dirt on Trump.

2) Biden is already the not-Trump for anyone who are not hard core right wing god talkers (and their maniacal masters in the monied class.) However, if in a couple of swing states the allegation of Reade makes a difference with independent female voters, the Biden should go to those states and talk to the voters (not astroturf goons) who seem to be bothered and make a statement.

Notice how I didn’t even bother to address any objective moral qualms one may have with inappropriate behavior on Biden’s part. I am now so cynical that I see that Trump’s triumph over the religious right, in moving their supposed Christian fundamentalism to a more out-of-the-closet Christian nationalism, that I think there is no constructive public dialogue be had in regards to morals.

Let me repeat that: The US (as far as public politics is concerned) is now so corrupted by the last few years of Trump that there is no real moral discussion. All that remains is tribal warfare.

Does that mean I think there is no actual morality in a society? No. It’s just that I think one can’t really make any changes at this late stage in the 2020 election because I believe, sparing any further revelations that are such a magnitude that they can steal the national discussion away from Covid-19 for the remaining 6 months until the election, that the election now is pretty much over (Biden will win, which is why the GOP analysts have advised GOP politicians to not campaign on defending Trump.)

And given the pandemic is, well, a pandemic that has already taken almost 60k lives in the US and by November that will be much larger, any additional revelations in regards to either Biden or Trump would have to be damn large to make a difference come election day. And I’m not expecting such a thing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:21:08am

re: #222 TarHellion

I accept and appreciate the above analyses. But you and I both know that will not be enough. Again, sweeping something under the rug will only sow doubt. Go ahead and make a podium statement denying the accusation and lay out the reasons why. Obama cut off the race question early on. Biden can, and should, be able to do the same. I don’t believe Ms. Beade’s accusation, simply because it runs counter to everything I have known - or heard - about VP Biden. But we cannot give the other side any whiff of ammunition.

As for conclusions, Business Insider found 2 people to corroborate. Whether credible or not, that has to be acknowledged. So, yes, Joe Biden needs to speak about this.

Obama didn’t cut off the race question. He ignored it. It wasn’t relevant.

As for the Birthers, they had “credible” people corroborate his birth certificate. When he finally produced a birth certificate, birthers just declared it fake, and even produced faked certificates to circulate on social media. The Hawai’i official in charge of vital records was declared to be a co-conspirator when she verified Obama’s filed certificate.

The GOP will never be satisfied, and neither with the rodent-copulators. It fits the “feeding the trolls” model: don’t. Or call them crackpots. Or refer to previous reporting. That’s not sweeping it under the rug.

Boy there seems to be a bunch of pessimistic people about this. How is this any different than any other GOP campaign in the last sixty years?

Conservatives don’t actually care if that sort of crap was true, or they wouldn’t have nominated Pumpkin Pinochet. It’s all entirely to weaponise Democrats’ basic decency against themselves, to put the ol’ “both parties are the same” argument out to suppress voter turnout.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:24:20am
Click to Reveal

I found a feed to live Caltrans traffic cams.

Cams list

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:28:51am

For all the booze novices:

How You’ve Been Drinking Whiskey Wrong Your Entire Life - BBC

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:32:14am

The Reade story, I propose, is being kept afloat for after the swearing in of Biden. It will be used to attack him endlessly. The idea being to try and foment as much froth against Biden as possible, to keep the 2022 election from also be Democrat dominated.

The only chance the GOP has post-Trump of not continuing to decrease is to stir up the wingnuts constantly, using the usual outlets.

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ericblair  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:34:13am

re: #225 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The GOP will never be satisfied, and neither with the rodent-copulators. It fits the “feeding the trolls” model: don’t. Or call them crackpots. Or refer to previous reporting. That’s not sweeping it under the rug.

The Tara Reade ecosystem seems to be populated by more-pro-Bernie-than-Bernie BernieBros at present, which would explain the timing:

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Dread Pirate  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:37:46am

re: #227 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

For all the booze novices:

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I don’t drink whiskey so… no.

I really don’t understand whiskey drinkers. My daughter likes it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:40:21am

re: #229 ericblair

The Tara Reade ecosystem seems to be populated by more-pro-Bernie-than-Bernie BernieBros at present, which would explain the timing:

And the GOP gets away with all sorts of crap the press credibly reports. Trump’s New York campaign manager Carl Paladino implying all Gold Star Family members are supporters of terrorists because a lot of us stood up for the Khan family, attacks on Max Cleland for being a “supporter of terrorism” (should he have held a public town hall or a public statement saying “no I’m not?”), attacking their own (John McCain).

Call conservatives crackpots. Call them a cult. Then move on.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:41:20am

YouTube

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:43:56am

Practice makes perfect:

6 Days Progress on Paganini Caprice No.13

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:48:18am

re: #230 Dread Pirate

I don’t drink whiskey so… no.

I really don’t understand whiskey drinkers. My daughter likes it.

What I really like is Islay single-malt scotch, like Laphroaig or Lagavulin*. That’s the good stuff!! I love that smoky, peaty flavor.

Ron Swanson Visits Lagavulin Distillery - Parks and Recreation

*I tend to prefer Laphroaig over Lagavulin, with apologies to Nick Offerman.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:50:35am

Give me Southern Comfort, the spiced rum of whiskeys.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:58:10am
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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:58:51am

You know when I think is the moment that Biden needs to come forward and make a statement?

When another woman comes forward to accuse him of rape. Not harassment, not making them feel “uncomfortable,” and not repeating something they heard from Reade.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:02:14am

Wholly shyte, someone (or a bunch of someones) needs to go to jail over this.

‘It’s horrific’: coronavirus kills nearly 70 at Massachusetts veterans’ home (The Guardian)

Nearly 70 residents sickened with the coronavirus have died at a Massachusetts home for ageing veterans, as state and federal officials try to figure out what went wrong in the deadliest known outbreak at a long-term care facility in the US.

While the death toll at the state-run Holyoke Soldiers’ Home continues to climb, federal officials are investigating whether residents were denied proper medical care and the state’s top prosecutor is deciding whether to bring legal action.

“It’s horrific,” said Edward Lapointe, whose father-in-law lives at the home and had a mild case of the virus. “These guys never had a chance.”

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:23:09am

re: #233 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Practice makes perfect:

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Video

That makes me feel like I should go out and buy a decent Webcam and microphone and record my hammered dulcimer practice.

I’ve thought about taking it outside my house and playing in my yard when it gets warm, for entertainment in the village (if they don’t throw tomatoes at me).

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dell*nix  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:29:00am

re: #239 Anymouse 🌹🏡

As long as the tomato’s are fresh homegrown ones they should be good.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:31:46am

So I’m viewing some youtube vids on SARS-Cov-2 by actual scientists and doctors… and I go check the comments and of course, this being ‘Murica, the know-nothings and anti-vaxxers are out strong.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:51:06am

I mentioned a couple of posts earlier about Nick Offerman and Lagavulin, then saw this on YouTube.

Lagavulin - Offerman Edition. LOL

Introducing Lagavulin Offerman Edition

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electrotek  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:05:15am

Idiot

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:11:59am

re: #14 retired cynic

Microsoft has made its typographical decree: Two spaces between sentences is too many.

I last learned that in High School typing class in the 10th grade…one of the courses that has been the most useful to me, along with Sophomore history (where we learned about researching original sources) and Junior English (where we learned about how to differentiate between various genres of writing)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:13:19am

re: #25 jaunte

In other words, government could order a specific plant to produce X pounds of poultry to be sold to the government at Y dollars per pound. But not just “stay open.”

In other words, Trump is clueless about how to govern and unable/unwilling to rely on qualified advice and counsel.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:14:20am

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Santa Claus is a socialist. He distributes free stuff to everyone regardless of social station or political connexions.

Arlo Guthrie summed it all up in this song:

Arlo Guthrie: The Pause of Mr Clause

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:16:00am

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

He’s afraid of what his own voters will think if they can’t find meat at the grocery store and he doesnt care if people—particularly low wage workers—have to die to make sure that doesn’t happen.

If you thought things got ugly over toilet paper, imagine when people start hoarding chicken wings.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:17:01am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In other words, Trump is clueless about how to govern and unable/unwilling to rely on qualified advice and counsel.

Or, in keeping with his behavior to date, he listened to advice/counsel from the idiots he “trusts,” one or more of whom have their own agenda that this act feeds into.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:17:43am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you thought things got ugly over toilet paper, imagine when people start hoarding chicken wings.

It’s funny, but I’ve seen the exact opposite. Breasts, tenderloins, and even drumsticks seem to go way before the wings are all gone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:22:36am

re: #86 Patricia Kayden

Has COVIDー19 finally done to Trump what no scandal has been able to, expose him for the incompetent, pathological lying, malignant narcissus, very low IQ person, he is. And it only took 56,000 American deaths & 985,000 sick.

I always said that things would have to get worse before they cold get better, but I did not reckon with things having to get this bad…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:23:32am

re: #88 Patricia Kayden

This feels like the legalization of slavery. Trump is forcing low income workers to risk their lives; most likely without protective gear. This is outrageous.

I imagine that he will stipulate that they should…but what he promises and what he delivers are worlds apart

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Teukka  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:24:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:32:39am

re: #140 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m starting to view this $500B as the price Democrats had to pay to get the Republicans to do anything for anyone besides the 1%.

and it will be used to attack the Democrats for being weak and ineffective…

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electrotek  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:32:50am

This moron works for AutoNation Toyota in Las Vegas, yet brazen enough to post a tweet like this:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:38:03am

re: #216 Targetpractice

This is going to be a matter of dogma by the time November rolls around: “Those people were gonna die anyway! You can’t go blaming the virus on every death this year!!!”

They will insist that the statistics were “fixed” against them, just like the election results. Even if they win…

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:38:14am

Ross Perot is trending on Twitter. Whoever has the monkey’s paw, PUT IT DOWN!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:38:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:39:18am

re: #224 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There are, I think, two options at hand:

1) Trump and his team may try, but they can’t play the moral high ground. For any woman who may make an accusation against Biden we can find a couple of dozen who will do so with Trump.

The long game here is to breed indifference: “Why vote at all? there is no difference between two old white establishment rapists!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:40:11am

re: #230 Dread Pirate

I don’t drink whiskey so… no.

I really don’t understand whiskey drinkers. My daughter likes it.

I would rather be hit over the head with a bottle of whiskey than drink from it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:43:01am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

What I really like is Islay single-malt scotch, like Laphroaig or Lagavulin*. That’s the good stuff!! I love that smoky, peaty flavor.

*I tend to prefer Laphroaig over Lagavulin, with apologies to Nick Offerman.

I once enjoyed a whiskey, after hiking through the bogs in Scotland and stopping at a roadside inn with a peat fire.

Otherwise, I am all for clear spirits: vodka, tequila, gin, white rum…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:44:48am

(We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:55:57am

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The Party of Life (tm, marca registrada):

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Could someone tell me what this means? Who, exactly, are the “socialists, liberals, and communists”?

For good measure, Hickox said media reporting on the virus that has infected 1 million Americans and killed 58,000 of them are “socialists, liberals, and communists.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:58:38am

re: #243 electrotek

Idiot

From the top of that thread, Senator Ted Cruz (R-Alberta) still demonstrates he does not understand the English language, in this case the word “all”:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 3:59:36am

re: #262 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Could someone tell me what this means? Who, exactly, are the “socialists, liberals, and communists”?

Anyone who is reported to have become sickened or died are not “real Americans.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:03:26am

re: #243 electrotek

Idiot

And a direct quote of a Nazi in opposition of education in the same thread.

The GOP has been the modern iteration of the Nazis ever since my late Baby Boomer butt was born, but they’ve not been so open about their support for fascism in my life.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:04:30am

Funny thread:

She’s talking about this movie:

ASSASSIN 33 AD Trailer 2020 HD

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:07:23am

re: #256 Targetpractice

Ross Perot is trending on Twitter. Whoever has the monkey’s paw, PUT IT DOWN!

OK, FINE!!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:11:17am

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sagehen  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:25:06am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹🏡

And a direct quote of a Nazi in opposition of education in the same thread.

The GOP has been the modern iteration of the Nazis ever since my late Baby Boomer butt was born, but they’ve not been so open about their support for fascism in my life.

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As someone your same age — yes there’s always been a faction, which started gaining strength in Goldwater’s time, but the right wing didn’t really consolidate control over the party until Reagan.

Earl Warren retired from the Court in 1969. Ford and Rockefeller were pretty liberal on domestic issues. The Nixon admin did EPA, OSHA, Title IX, Title X.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:26:46am

Back a few weeks I wrote that I noticed a pattern in the daily death totals, that there was a weekend effect, seen by a roughly 7 day interval in dips in daily reports.

But I see a lot of people, educated and not, state on say Sundays that it looks like deaths are going down.

Well, the past three days support my assertion:

This reporting-cycle is fooling a lot of people.

There has been a gradual global decline the past two and a half weeks or so, but that is because the two countries which had the highest deaths for several weeks, Italy and Spain, have seen daily deaths on a downward trajectory.

Globally though many countries are just ramping up their death reporting, such as Brazil and Russia. And I remain skeptical that we’re getting anywhere near reliable death data from India.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:26:48am

re: #124 Dread Pirate

Soon, asshole….
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:28:00am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The problem is the general public has been so dumbed down by the education system they don’t know their rights as American.

She has a bit of a point: the decline of public education accelerated greatly under Reagan. We are paying the price for that neglect.

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Teukka  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:29:07am

re: #252 Teukka

Couldn’t resist breathing some fire myself: (thread)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:29:32am

re: #270 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The structured 7-day week with a two day weekend is one of the constraints on the reporting system. People may die any day, but that does not mean all the worker bees who collect, collate, check, and report data all work all week.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:32:04am

It’s been a hot week and half here, much too clear and hot for April. Feels more like July.

I want my “June Gloom” back, as San Diego weather is called in late spring and early summer.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:47:22am

I get the concept of Biden addressing Reade’s accusation, but I don’t agree. Unless something credible comes to light (and this isn’t it, IMHO), the only thing I can think of when talking about addressing allegations is…

Christine O’Donnell - “I’m not a witch. I’m You”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:58:22am

Locally, cases are still growing:

I wonder how much the Navy has to do with the continuing growth?

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:58:43am

We’ve all been through this enough times to know that it never ends with “He needs to make a statement.” It begins with “He needs to make a statement,” and it always ends with “He needs to step down.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 4:59:25am

re: #278 Targetpractice

We’ve all been through this enough times to know that it never ends with “He needs to make a statement.” It begins with “He needs to make a statement,” and it always ends with “He needs to step down.”

Son of Franken….stein

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NetworkKed  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:09:42am

So this morning we had an all-hands meeting to talk about reopening.

So mad right now. Indiana cases may have flattened, but they’re NOT going down. We started sending people home when there were 10 cases a day. I decided I personally wanted to bail when it got to 25 cases per day and documented cases in my county. Today the state has a steady 600+ cases per day. What the fuck do they think is going to happen?

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:14:57am

What happens when Biden makes a statement? The media coverage turns from actually assessing the credibility of the charges to picking apart the statement. If they can’t find any factual errors, they say that certain verbage or usage of certain words “raises questions.” They bring in “experts” to analyze his body language, his gestures, his facial expressions, every part of his physical appearance to look for “duplicity.” And they bring in panels of “voters” to comment on what they think of the statement, how they “feel” about Biden after listening to him and watching him.

What they don’t do is nod and say “Well, he’s made his statement, let’s move on.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:15:15am

moron

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:18:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:19:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:20:06am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

The only reason the U.S. has reported one million cases of CoronaVirus is that our Testing is sooo much better than any other country in the World. Other countries are way behind us in Testing, and therefore show far fewer cases!

Now that is some real “cheerleading”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:20:26am

re: #279 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Son of Franken….stein

THIS! ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:20:57am
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jeffreyw  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:22:03am

Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:22:40am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:23:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:29:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:31:51am
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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:33:21am

re: #32 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

I’m getting my shredding statement today. What a fucking waste of resources.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:43:10am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:48:19am

SMDH.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:51:28am

re: #295 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Name calling in official mail. DT is a schoolyard bully.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:55:18am

This is Canada (albeit, it’s possible anyone could have voted). This just tells me that roughly 30% of the entire global population, no matter where, is fucked in the head.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:58:06am

re: #297 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This is Canada (albeit, it’s possible anyone could have voted). This just tells me that roughly 30% of the entire global population, no matter where, is fucked in the head.

Germany is allowing Geisterspiele (ghost games) with no crowds and only limited numbers of camerapeople, press photographers and commentators.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 5:58:52am

re: #221 Targetpractice

His campaign’s given the only answer that there needs to be: “He denies it, we deny it, but let the media do their own investigation and reach their own conclusions.” So far, the media outlets that have looked into it have come away admitting that her credibility is totally lacking and she has no answers only excuses.

And really, that’s what’s frustrating the hell out of them: He’s not playing to script. He’s not rushing the cameras to give a big televised denial, he’s not attacking her or anybody connected to her, he’s not making a big fuss about the media’s attention to the story, he’s simply telling them to do their jobs and it’s driving them batty.

And it’s the best response.

Because, in part that if he responds to it as a legitimate distraction and brings it solidly into the discourse there will be nothing settled. Because even if the Reade case dies away it will be all too easy for the hit machine to roll out another accuser, and we see this on repeat until November. (And pointing to Trump’s issues in this regard plays into the a counter strategy of “both sides do it, so vote for neither” as a vote suppression effort.)

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:01:50am

Meanwhile, Jared’s making strawman arguments, and failing miserably.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:03:35am

re: #218 TarHellion

OK, folks, time to face reality.

The reality is he could show videotape of what he was doing at the moment of her accusation and they won’t let it go.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:08:30am

re: #266 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Funny thread:

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She’s talking about this movie:

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ahhh… No, not going to engage. Beyond silly in how this wouldn’t work even allowing for Jesus to have been a historical person. Or for a serious “Christian” to accept that God would allow someone to just turn up and kill his son.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:10:24am

re: #269 sagehen

As someone your same age — yes there’s always been a faction, which started gaining strength in Goldwater’s time, but the right wing didn’t really consolidate control over the party until Reagan.

Earl Warren retired from the Court in 1969. Ford and Rockefeller were pretty liberal on domestic issues. The Nixon admin did EPA, OSHA, Title IX, Title X.

GOP still had a liberal wing (so to speak) back in Nixon’s time. The complete polarization of the party didn’t really start until Reagan and Bush were in charge. And Newt Gingrich is a pretty solid milestone in that transition.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:11:48am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

She has a bit of a point: the decline of public education accelerated greatly under Reagan. We are paying the price for that neglect.

The GOP War of Science pretty much went into full swing at that time as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:13:59am

re: #301 Belafon

The reality is he could show videotape of what he was doing at the moment of her accusation and they won’t let it go.

It will hence be “Biden, dogged by rape accusations….”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:14:38am

re: #302 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

ahhh… No, not going to engage. Beyond silly in how this wouldn’t work even allowing for Jesus to have been a historical person. Or for a serious “Christian” to accept that God would allow someone to just turn up and kill his son.

“The Ultimate Jihad” is the sort of thing that really gets ‘em to sit up and take notice!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:14:39am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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The only reason there are that many *reported* cases is that Trump failed to sufficiently throttle reporting of cases in deaths like China has. He’s probably jealous of that.

Like an earlier poster I’m suspicious of the reported numbers from India; and Russia, Iran, and Brazil as well for a matter of fact.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:15:18am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s a cat. They *meant* to do that.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:20:54am
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steve_davis  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:24:45am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wanna be in a Zoom Puppy Meeting!

LOL! (Puppy at bottom): “they will never know I’m not wearing pants in this meeting!”

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:25:38am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:26:45am
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Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:27:24am

re: #280 NetworkKed

So this morning we had an all-hands meeting to talk about reopening.

So mad right now. Indiana cases may have flattened, but they’re NOT going down. We started sending people home when there were 10 cases a day. I decided I personally wanted to bail when it got to 25 cases per day and documented cases in my county. Today the state has a steady 600+ cases per day. What the fuck do they think is going to happen?

Right now the country is more infected than on 15 Mar. If we go to the protective posture we had then, we start the last 6 weeks all over again, but worse.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:28:05am

re: #300 lawhawk

Fourth quarter of 2008 = Bush
First quarter of 2020 = Trump

Notice a pattern? Republicans always wreck the economy. They don’t know how to do anything except cut taxes.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:28:43am

Some potentially good news:

South Korean infectious disease experts have downplayed concerns that patients could get reinfected with the new coronavirus after fully recovering.
While hundreds in South Korea have tested positive again after their release from hospitals, Oh Myoung-don, who heads the country’s central clinical committee on new infectious diseases, told a news conference on Wednesday there was a “high possibility” that such test results were flawed.

He said South Korea”s standard real-time PCR tests, designed to amplify the genetic materials of the virus so that even tiny quantities are detected, doesn’t reliably distinguish between remains of dead virus and infectious particles. He said lab tests on animals suggest that COVID-19 patients would maintain immunity for at least a year after their infections.

He also said it was unlikely that the virus could be reactivated after remaining dormant when it doesn’t seem to be a type that causes chronic illnesses.

As of Tuesday, 277 people in South Korea tested positive for the virus for a second time after being diagnosed as recovered. Health authorities have tested some of their samples, but none so far have been successfully cultivated in isolation, indicating a loss of infectiousness.

outlookindia.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:28:52am

re: #313 Decatur Deb

Right now the country is more infected than on 15 Mar. If we go to the protective posture we had then, we start the last 6 weeks all over again, but worse.

“We feel better today. Let’s stop taking the antibiotics even though the doctor said to take them for another week.”
//

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:30:34am

re: #314 Patricia Kayden

They always project that Democrats want to redistribute wealth to the poor, but the reality is that GOPers are successful at transferring massive amounts of wealth from all Americans to the richest of the rich. That’s the point of the tax cuts and every tax plan put forth by the GOP over the last 40 years. It’s all about accumulating wealth in the richest Americans while shifting the burdens to everyone else.

And that needs to be front and center in any discussion. Democrats shouldn’t be shying away from this. GOP are totally on board with redistribution of wealth. They want to take from the poor and middle class and give it to the richest people on the planet.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:36:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:38:56am

re: #317 lawhawk

And that needs to be front and center in any discussion. Democrats shouldn’t be shying away from this. GOP are totally on board with redistribution of wealth. They want to take from the poor and middle class and give it to the richest people on the planet.

It has gone beyond that: they want poor people to go out and risk their lives to preserve the wealth that the 1% have accumulated. Or as they call it, “saving the economy”.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:41:30am

re: #13 Joe Bacon 🌹

Mom served as the Judge Of Elections for our precinct in Ambridge PA for 40 years until she was voted out in 1993 by 4 votes.

I did 4 years as Judge of Elections here in my precinct. A good experience but the 4 year stint was enough. Another poll worker said she would like to do it so I stepped aside for her to get elected and take over.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:45:32am

re: #266 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Should go read the review quotes on Rotten Tomatoes. Ranges from: worst movies ever; Xenophobic; terrible acting ; stilted dialog; special effects that would make the 80s cringe. To ZOMG even my atheist daughter loved it; great acting; profound questions; etc

As someone noted, wouldn’t jebus dying period do that whole new covenant completion thing or was there some preordained dying on a Roman cross that sealed the deal? And gods and time travel…

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:46:19am

re: #80 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No, we’re just too fucking polite.

Minnesota nice.

Mr. Vice President, this would be a good opportunity to present yourself for a mask fitting. This way you can keep eye contact with patients and staff without giving them a case of dumbfuckery.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:46:58am

re: #321 Colère Tueur de Lapin

ZOMG even my atheist daughter loved it

My wife’s meat loaf is so good even our vegan daughter asks for seconds!

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:47:14am

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Prior paragraph:

It’s all about accumulating wealth in the richest Americans while shifting the burdens to everyone else.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:49:28am

re: #324 lawhawk

It’s all about accumulating wealth in the richest Americans while shifting the burdens to everyone else.

Modern “enterprise” is about privatizing profits while socializing environmental, health and safety costs.

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Teukka  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:49:53am

re: #295 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

SMDH.

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Am I too rough on the Trumpomatic troll?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:51:04am

re: #321 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Should go read the review quotes on Rotten Tomatoes. Ranges from: worst movies ever; Xenophobic; terrible acting ; stilted dialog; special effects that would make the 80s cringe. To ZOMG even my atheist daughter loved it; great acting; profound questions; etc

As someone noted, wouldn’t jebus dying period do that whole new covenant completion thing or was there some preordained dying on a Roman cross that sealed the deal? And gods and time travel…

And Muslims going back to kill one of their own prophets.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:51:08am

re: #326 Teukka

In my opinion no.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:52:40am

re: #328 PhillyPretzel

In my opinion no.

Agreed.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:52:41am

Trump’s approval is back down to net -10 points. He can only win if the center left vote is split; hence Tara Reade. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:53:08am

re: #327 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And Muslims going back to kill one of their own prophets.

“The Ultimate Jihad”…again, this is designed to strike a deep nerve among those filled with Islamophobic hate.

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sagehen  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:54:12am

re: #317 lawhawk

They always project that Democrats want to redistribute wealth to the poor, but the reality is that GOPers are successful at transferring massive amounts of wealth from all Americans to the richest of the rich. That’s the point of the tax cuts and every tax plan put forth by the GOP over the last 40 years. It’s all about accumulating wealth in the richest Americans while shifting the burdens to everyone else.

And that needs to be front and center in any discussion. Democrats shouldn’t be shying away from this. GOP are totally on board with redistribution of wealth. They want to take from the poor and middle class and give it to the richest people on the planet.

“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”
― Warren Buffett

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:54:14am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“The Ultimate Jihad”…again, this is designed to strike a deep nerve among those filled with Islamophobic hate.

So it features pro-evolution, communist, jihadists?
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:54:27am

re: #330 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump’s approval is back down to net -10 points. He can only win if the center left vote is split; hence Tara Reade

Tara is about getting centrists to stay home, applying the approach that worked well in 2016: there is no difference between the two “establishment” candidates, they are both rich old white rapists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:56:30am

re: #333 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So it features pro-evolution, communist, jihadists?
///

Rather than killing every single Christian, they kill Jesus so that there never are any Christians. And as every good American Fundamentalist Patriot knows, the whole reason Islam exists is to kill or convert every living Christian (while forcing the womenfolk into their harems)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:59:08am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rather than killing every single Christian, they kill Jesus so that there never are any Christians. And as every good American Fundamentalist Patriot knows, the whole reason Islam exists is to kill or convert every living Christian (while forcing the womenfolk into their harems)

Is Kirk Cameron who they send back in time to prevent this disaster? And does he unknowingly father some eventual later saviour?
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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:02:41am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:03:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:08:01am

re: #337 Belafon

% who agree the economy should reopen even if covid-19 is not fully contained.

That question is rather meaningless unless you discuss the concrete conditions, protective measures and restrictions under which the economy is allowed to “reopen”.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:08:04am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:09:16am

…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:09:51am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:11:38am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Tara is about getting centrists to stay home, applying the approach that worked well in 2016: there is no difference between the two “establishment” candidates, they are both rich old white rapists.

I’m thinking Obama is going to be more involved soon. I’m not worried about this as much.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:12:08am

Good morning Lizards:

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Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:13:06am

re: #342 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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It’s a small, infected, world after all.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:14:21am

re: #266 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Funny thread:

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She’s talking about this movie:

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The prophet Jesus is at a level similar to Mohammed in Islam. A quick look at IMDB says it’s about time traveling muslims who have to undo the murder that was done by extremists.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:14:36am

re: #344 b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)

Good morning Lizards:

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That’s the way to keep people engaged when there’s little else to do. 😂😂😂

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:16:26am

re: #269 sagehen

As someone your same age — yes there’s always been a faction, which started gaining strength in Goldwater’s time, but the right wing didn’t really consolidate control over the party until Reagan.

Earl Warren retired from the Court in 1969. Ford and Rockefeller were pretty liberal on domestic issues. The Nixon admin did EPA, OSHA, Title IX, Title X.

Well… after the 1964 election they were declared dead. I’d say their comeback didn’t really start until Nixon and the southern strategy.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:16:48am

So, a former student of mine here e-mailed me about Tiger King. She just got done binge-watching it and was quite surprised to learn that it was not a work of fiction.

🤣

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:17:39am

re: #349 Dr Lizardo

So, a former student of mine here e-mailed me about Tiger King. She just got done binge-watching it and was quite surprised to learn that it was not a work of fiction.

🤣

She was rooting for the tigers to win it all, right?

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sagehen  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:21:17am

re: #344 b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)

Good morning Lizards:

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My all-time favorite correction remains this one from the WSJ in 2018:

“An earlier version of his article incorrectly started that Benjamin Netanyahu said Moses brought water from Iraq. He said the water was brought from a rock.”

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:22:19am

OT I just got my order from amazon. I ordered a clock and they sent me the wrong one. I ordered a black clock and got a white one. The clock works beautifully and has a silent sweep second hand. Of course that is to be expected from a Seiko (even though it is says made in China). The problem is should I return it and get the correct one or just keep it.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:22:24am

re: #350 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She was rooting for the tigers to win it all, right?

She felt sorry for the tigers - like she commented, they seem to have been forgotten in all the personal squabbles. She also wondered how such things were possible, and I answered her with the well-known Czech adage “In America, all is possible”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:26:55am

re: #350 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She was rooting for the tigers to win it all, right?

There was a story involving Siegfried and Roy and how Roy came out onstage with a new pair of python-skin boots. This prompted one of the cats to leap down and attack them, thinking they were a threat to their beloved trainer.

It all happened so quickly, and everybody was in such shock and surprise that nobody was sure which of the tigers had done it.

So later, after the victim had awakened in the hospital, they came with photos and asked:

“Pardon me, Roy, is this the cat that chewed your new shoes?”

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Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:28:26am

re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Can Lizards upding and downding simultaneously?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:29:01am

re: #301 Belafon

The reality is he could show videotape of what he was doing at the moment of her accusation and they won’t let it go.

Video= birth certificate

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:29:12am

re: #288 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Another grackle hogging the spotlight. But the hummingbird steals that show.

I’m the prettiest!
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:29:29am

re: #355 Decatur Deb

Can Lizards upding and downding simultaneously?

you mean bitch-slap?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:30:08am

re: #356 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Video= birth certificate

Obama, plagued by questions about his eligibility….

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:32:25am

re: #295 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

SMDH.

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Meanwhile, fivethirtyeight has DT support down by over half a point. Since yesterday.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:32:29am

re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a story involving Siegfried and Roy and how Roy came out onstage with a new pair of python-skin boots. This prompted one of the cats to leap down and attack them, thinking they were a threat to their beloved trainer.

It all happened so quickly, and everybody was in such shock and surprise that nobody was sure which of the tigers had done it.

So later, after the victim had awaken in the hospital, they came with photos and asked:

“Pardon me, Roy, is this the cat that chewed your new shoes?”

I just told hubby this joke and her told me the first time he heard it, it was about Roy Rogers with Dale Evans being the one who saved him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:33:20am

re: #361 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I just told hubby this joke and her told me the first time he heard it, it was about Roy Rogers with Dale Evans being the one who saved him.

yes, that is how I first heard it, just adapted it to be a bit more topical

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:34:20am

re: #362 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, that is how I first heard it, just adapted it to be a bit more topical

Well done!

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:34:46am

re: #347 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s the way to keep people engaged when there’s little else to do. 😂😂😂

lol, yep….that’ll keep them busy.

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Semper Fi  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:37:11am

re: #352 PhillyPretzel

OT I just got my order from amazon. I ordered a clock and they sent me the wrong one. I ordered a black clock and got a white one. The clock works beautifully and has a silent sweep second hand. Of course that is to be expected from a Seiko (even though it is says made in China). The problem is should I return it and get the correct one or just keep it.

Return it. Don’t let them decide what you want.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:37:28am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Tara is about getting centrists to stay home, applying the approach that worked well in 2016: there is no difference between the two “establishment” candidates, they are both rich old white rapists.

Even if that distillation was the only argument, the difference is still RBG

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:38:25am

re: #352 PhillyPretzel

OT I just got my order from amazon. I ordered a clock and they sent me the wrong one. I ordered a black clock and got a white one. The clock works beautifully and has a silent sweep second hand. Of course that is to be expected from a Seiko (even though it is says made in China). The problem is should I return it and get the correct one or just keep it.

I’ll bet they’re not taking returns now. I’ll bet you can get a steep discount for keeping it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:40:37am

Regarding that stupid movie about time travelling Muslims who try to kill Jesus before he could die on the cross, there’s a fatal flaw here: If Christ could be resurrected, God could bring him back from the dead after the Muslims killed him and send him to the cross anyway.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:41:24am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:41:39am

re: #367 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’ll bet they’re not taking returns now. I’ll bet you can get a steep discount for keeping it.

Plus, as Mick Jagger sang, couldn’t you take the white one and, you know, paint it black?

/

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:42:08am

re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg

Plus, as Mick Jagger sang, couldn’t you take the white one and, you know, paint it black?

/

🤢🤢🤢

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:42:23am

re: #203 Targetpractice

*raises hand* Can I still refer to Tomi Lahren as “White Power Barbie”?

Here yes.

But on Twitter, @jack will silence you. Why? Because @jack has a crush on her.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:42:37am

re: #352 PhillyPretzel

OT I just got my order from amazon. I ordered a clock and they sent me the wrong one. I ordered a black clock and got a white one. The clock works beautifully and has a silent sweep second hand. Of course that is to be expected from a Seiko (even though it is says made in China). The problem is should I return it and get the correct one or just keep it.

In these times, I think I would keep it. There is a tiny risk to the Amazon worker who picks and packs your order, and I try not to order anything I don’t really need.

Also, I’m lazy (don’t matter if a clock is black or white as long as it keeps the time).

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danarchy  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:46:29am

re: #326 Teukka

Am I too rough on the Trumpomatic troll?

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Too rough? No, kind of in fantasy land though IMO. If you think the ICC or anyone for that matter is going to convict a former US president of anything I have a bridge I would like to sell you.

If you think the US government would allow it or if it happened, allow the enforcement of said ruling you are dreaming. Unless a US court gets him for something he did independent of his time in office(NY hopefully) he will never stand trial.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:49:34am

re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who says vaudeville is dead?

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danarchy  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:50:36am

re: #373 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

In these times, I think I would keep it. There is a tiny risk to the Amazon worker who picks and packs your order, and I try not to order anything I don’t really need.

Also, I’m lazy (don’t matter if a clock is black or white as long as it keeps the time).

I think someone mentioned above if you contact amazon I bet they will be willing to give you some sort of credit in lieu of a return.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:50:54am

re: #374 danarchy

Too rough? No, kind of in fantasy land though IMO. If you think the ICC or anyone for that matter is going to convict a former US president of anything I have a bridge I would like to sell you.

If you think the US government would allow it or if it happened, allow the enforcement of said ruling you are dreaming. Unless a US court gets him for something he did independent of his time in office(NY hopefully) he will never stand trial.

He will never face a single legal consequence. America cannot tolerate a wealthy white man facing consequences at the best of times, but a former president? A former president who is the avatar of the worst part of America’s soul? To have him face a legal consequence of any kind would be a wound that this country simply could not survive.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:52:35am

re: #373 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I agree. I think I will keep it. It is not the color I wanted but it is quiet and accurate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:54:28am

re: #366 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Even if that distillation was the only argument, the difference is still RBG

The point is to diminish turnout. It worked terribly well in 2016. This time around it is a different game: Trump is no longer just bluster and promises, he has a track record, and not a very good one.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2020 • 7:57:34am

Post Malone x Nirvana Tribute

Post Malone x Nirvana Tribute - Livestream

Don’t know too much about him, but always thought it was a bit of a talentless chode. I was wrong. He did Kurt justice in his tribute. Worth the listen.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:00:11am

Conservatism. That’s the disease.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:00:17am

Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN a second wave of the coronavirus is “inevitable,” but just how bad it is will depend on the progress the U.S. makes in the coming months.

Said Fauci: “If by that time we have put into place all of the countermeasures that you need to address this, we should do reasonably well. If we don’t do that successfully, we could be in for a bad fall and a bad winter.”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:01:10am

re: #382 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN a second wave of the coronavirus is “inevitable,” but just how bad it is will depend on the progress the U.S. makes in the coming months.

Said Fauci: “If by that time we have put into place all of the countermeasures that you need to address this, we should do reasonably well. If we don’t do that successfully, we could be in for a bad fall and a bad winter.”

contrast with this insanity:

Jared Kushner told Fox & Friends that much of the country could be “back to normal” by June.

Said Kushner: “I think what you’ll see in May as the states are reopening now is May will be a transition month, you’ll see a lot of states starting to phase in the different reopening based on the safety guidelines that President Trump outlined on April 19.”

He added: “I think you’ll see by June that a lot of the country should be back to normal, and the hope is that by July the country’s really rocking again.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:02:51am

re: #380 Dr. Matt

Post Malone x Nirvana Tribute

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Video

Don’t know too much about him, but always thought it was a bit of a talentless chode. I was wrong. He did Kurt justice in his tribute. Worth the listen.

He sounds so much different without the constant autotune.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:06:25am

re: #377 Renaissance_Man

He will never face a single legal consequence. America cannot tolerate a wealthy white man facing consequences at the best of times, but a former president? A former president who is the avatar of the worst part of America’s soul? To have him face a legal consequence of any kind would be a wound that this country simply could not survive.

In fact, I would go so far as to say that for Donald Trump to face a legal punishment would be the equivalent of the execution of Louis XVI. It would mean a seismic shift in the fabric of the United States as a whole, and effectively the birth of a new nation. He is the state. He is the living, breathing embodiment of the nation’s core principle, the privilege of wealthy white men. To negate that would be to negate America’s most sacred tradition.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:06:31am

Also, the past two recessions that preceded 2008, while nowhere near as bad as what we are dealing with then or now, ALSO happened under Republican Presidents (HW Bush in 91/92 and then W. in 2001-2002). And the worst of the Savings and Loan crisis happened when Reagan was President.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:07:05am

re: #383 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

contrast with this insanity:

Based on the safety guidelines from Trump.

Fah Q, Kermit.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:09:43am

re: #385 Renaissance_Man

In fact, I would go so far as to say that for Donald Trump to face a legal punishment would be the equivalent of the execution of Louis XVI. It would mean a seismic shift in the fabric of the United States as a whole, and effectively the birth of a new nation. He is the state. He is the living, breathing embodiment of the nation’s core principle, the privilege of wealthy white men. To negate that would be to negate America’s most sacred tradition.

That’s what we’re trying for.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:12:28am

This idiot

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:13:45am

re: #389 Dr. Matt

And the testing seems to have plateaued, giving a false sense of containment, when there’s no containment. States are moving to loosen restrictions all while we still don’t have sufficient testing to do contact tracing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:13:55am

Meanwhile over at Twitter, “Happy Birthday Candace” is trending.

I’m wondering if her pal Adolf is sending her Birthday greetings from Hell…

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Teukka  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:16:07am

re: #374 danarchy

Too rough? No, kind of in fantasy land though IMO. If you think the ICC or anyone for that matter is going to convict a former US president of anything I have a bridge I would like to sell you.

If you think the US government would allow it or if it happened, allow the enforcement of said ruling you are dreaming. Unless a US court gets him for something he did independent of his time in office(NY hopefully) he will never stand trial.

Well, what’s most likely is the ICC presenting the United States with an ultimatum:
Either you try him and/or his henchmen, or we do.
And as you point out, he and his underlings are in hot water outside of the executive branch of the United States.
You may think it unlikely, but there have to and fro been murmors about criminals from the big nations getting away with crimes, and criminals from small nations getting harsh punishment, so there is certainly a will to make an example that no-one is above the law.
And even though Darth Orange will never see any sanctions for his behavior, his underlings may, and the proceedings themselves may forever tarnish his reputation.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:19:17am

re: #386 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, the past two recessions that preceded 2008, while nowhere near as bad as what we are dealing with then or now, ALSO happened under Republican Presidents (HW Bush in 91/92 and then W. in 2001-2002). And the worst of the Savings and Loan crisis happened when Reagan was President.

And before that, rampant inflation leading to wage and price controls under Nixon, followed by “stagflation” under Ford.

The economy did well from the previous Republican president (Eisenhower) because the rest of the world was rebuilding after WW2 (and we had a 95% top marginal tax rate).

Prior to that, Hoover and the Great Depression.

Wind back further, the Panic of 1893 (which was the worst depression before the so-called Great one) was under President William McKinley.

I can’t come up with any Republican president who didn’t screw the pooch on the economy, because after Lincoln, they’ve always been the party of big business, and big businesses want to own all the wealth.

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Jay C  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:19:35am

re: #321 Colère Tueur de Lapin

re: #266 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Should go read the review quotes on Rotten Tomatoes. Ranges from: worst movies ever; Xenophobic; terrible acting ; stilted dialog; special effects that would make the 80s cringe. To ZOMG even my atheist daughter loved it; great acting; profound questions; etc

As someone noted, wouldn’t jebus dying period do that whole new covenant completion thing or was there some preordained dying on a Roman cross that sealed the deal? And gods and time travel…

So how does this turkey movie end?
Because in virtually EVERY time-travelers-change-history property I’ve seen/read/heard of (print, TV, movies), the usual upshot is that the desired outcome is definitely NOT what was intended.
The plot is that Muslim time-travelers go back to 33 to off Jesus before he can be crucified? Which supposedly “erases” Christianity from history? To me, the ending is pre-ordained: the time travelers come back to their own time to find that they have also “erased” Muhammed, and that Saudi Arabia in 2020 is, officially, a Buddhist (or better yet, Jewish) country….

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:19:48am

re: #388 Belafon

That’s what we’re trying for.

Yeah, I don’t think it would be a bad thing at all.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:20:54am

re: #393 Anymouse 🌹🏡

And before that, rampant inflation leading to wage and price controls under Nixon, followed by “stagflation” under Ford.

The economy did well from the previous Republican president (Eisenhower) because the rest of the world was rebuilding after WW2 (and we had a 95% top marginal tax rate).

Prior to that, Hoover and the Great Depression.

Wind back further, the Panic of 1893 (which was the worst depression before the so-called Great one) was under President William McKinley.

I can’t come up with any Republican president who didn’t screw the pooch on the economy, because after Lincoln, they’ve always been the party of big business, and big businesses want to own all the wealth.

How about Teddy?

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:21:04am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:22:00am

re: #397 teleskiguy

Is Justin with the Libertarian People’s Front or the People’s Front for Libertarianism?
//

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:23:10am

re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Pardon me, Roy, is this the cat that chewed your new shoes?”

THWACK!

Don’t forget that Roy was attacked by a 450 lb. Siberian Tiger named Montecore, which ended their careers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:25:53am

re: #393 Anymouse 🌹🏡

And before that, rampant inflation leading to wage and price controls under Nixon, followed by “stagflation” under Ford.

The economy did well from the previous Republican president (Eisenhower) because the rest of the world was rebuilding after WW2 (and we had a 95% top marginal tax rate).

Funny how that works, isn’t it?

/

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Teukka  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:26:51am

So… Someone posted a preview of May:

Preview Only.
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Jay C  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:26:53am

re: #396 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

How about Teddy?

Nope: not even him: the Panic of 1907 happened on his watch…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:29:48am

re: #393 Anymouse 🌹🏡

And before that, rampant inflation leading to wage and price controls under Nixon, followed by “stagflation” under Ford.

The economy did well from the previous Republican president (Eisenhower) because the rest of the world was rebuilding after WW2 (and we had a 95% top marginal tax rate).

Prior to that, Hoover and the Great Depression.

Wind back further, the Panic of 1893 (which was the worst depression before the so-called Great one) was under President William McKinley.

I can’t come up with any Republican president who didn’t screw the pooch on the economy, because after Lincoln, they’ve always been the party of big business, and big businesses want to own all the wealth.

Fella—Cleveland was President during the Panic of 1893…that led to Bryan’s hijacking of the Democratic Party and the election of McKinley.

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Mattand  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:30:23am

re: #311 Patricia Kayden

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Amanda Marcotte considered a widely respected journalist with liberal leanings?

After reading her Salon piece, I thought to myself that it’s just a matter of time before Marcotte becomes a “conservative hack” because she’s not 100% vindicating all of Reade’s accusations.

I really thought about posting it at one site that is full-on “Joe Biden is a rapist” to see if that would be the reaction. I never did, but the tweet you posted seems to bare that out.

As I said before, if this is ratfucking, it’s doing its intended job of making sure hardcore lefties stay home (not that they needed a push.)

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:33:30am

Last night, I got called by SSRI to do a poll. We’ll see how the results stack up, but it was about covid19, telepresence, web conferencing, and related issues. They also asked about my confidence in going out in a group right now. They asked about going in a group of 1 other person, less than 10, less than 100, less than 1,000, or more than 1,000 people. 0-5 scale with 0 no confidence/willingness to go, and 5 being willing to go with no reservations. I went from 4 for one other person right now to 3 for less than 10 to 0 for anything over 10 people. Seeing how so many people don’t get how to wear masks, and we’re in the heart of the mess here in northern NJ, I have even less confidence elsewhere. I don’t see going to a ballgame this year, or any concerts, because I don’t trust this to be contained. I am reevaluating my travel plans, and will probably avoid shopping at supermarkets or the mall unless it’s absolutely necessary. Minimizing exposures as much as possible.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:34:48am

Jumped-up vapid nonentity says what?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:35:29am

re: #389 Dr. Matt

I love my Tesla but he’s an idiot.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:36:44am

re: #405 lawhawk

Problem with using Instacart here in Los Angeles is that they never get my orders completely filled. Hard to get veggies and meat except for burger patties and hot dogs. Even frozen dinners are out of stock no matter what store I try.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:37:47am

Putin metrics.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:40:52am

re: #408 Joe Bacon 🌹

Same here.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:40:59am

re: #409 jaunte

Fox and OANN will say, “Hey it’s only one million folks. Hillary would have killed five million…”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:41:29am

re: #407 GlutenFreeJesus

I love my Tesla but he’s an idiot.

Why are so many rich people complete douchebags?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:42:00am

re: #398 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Wait ‘till Biggus Dickus hears of this.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:42:47am

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

Being a douchebag may be part of the mix that results in wealth.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:42:51am

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

Why are so many rich people complete douchebags?

They either believe the shit Ayn Rand wrote OR they buy into the Calvinist/Prosperity Gawspell BS that they’ve been chosen/blessed by The Big G!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:42:56am

re: #409 jaunte

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Putin metrics.

Sole metric is Trump and his family being alive and money continues to be pocketed.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:44:03am

re: #408 Joe Bacon 🌹

Problem with using Instacart here in Los Angeles is that they never get my orders completely filled. Hard to get veggies and meat except for burger patties and hot dogs. Even frozen dinners are out of stock no matter what store I try.

You’re actually able to get time slots. It’s a fricking lottery at this point to get times according to friends and family trying to use any of the online delivery options.

I’m doing in-person shopping about once every two weeks and stocking up best I can with what’s available. And this is how I feel coming home:

Pulp Fiction - They’re Your Clothes

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:45:47am

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

Why are so many rich people complete douchebags?

1) Empathy and sympathy allowed to shrivel in exchange for success in business. Most of them got ahead by knowing when to stick the knife in the back of their co-workers.

2) Raised and educated that they are above the lower classes and the only way to maintain privilege is to constantly war to keep them under control.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:47:11am

re: #382 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Dr. Anthony Fauci told CNN a second wave of the coronavirus is “inevitable,” but just how bad it is will depend on the progress the U.S. makes in the coming months.

Said Fauci: “If by that time we have put into place all of the countermeasures that you need to address this, we should do reasonably well. If we don’t do that successfully, we could be in for a bad fall and a bad winter.”

What he really meant was “Since by that time we will have failed to put into place all of the countermeasures that you need to address this, looks like we are really in for a bad fall and a bad winter.”

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:48:12am

Good morning/evening/afternoon folks!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:48:24am

re: #419 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What he really meant was “Since by that time we have failed to put into place all of the countermeasures that you need to address this, so we are really in for a bad fall and a bad winter.”

Even SHORTER Dr. Fauci: “Look, we’re all pretty much fucked while Trump is still President.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:48:31am

re: #417 lawhawk

You’re actually able to get time slots. It’s a fricking lottery at this point to get times according to friends and family trying to use any of the online delivery options.

I’m doing in-person shopping about once every two weeks and stocking up best I can with what’s available. And this is how I feel coming home:

It’s hit or miss with the time slots because several times there have been no slots and I have to select the flexible option which is a pain in the ass when I get an Instacart alert that they’re shopping while I’m teleworking and especially when I am on conference calls or Zoom meetings…

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Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:49:23am

re: #383 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

contrast with this insanity:

“A lot of the country”= soybean acerage.

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makeitstop  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:50:42am

re: #380 Dr. Matt

Post Malone x Nirvana Tribute

[Embedded content]

Don’t know too much about him, but always thought it was a bit of a talentless chode. I was wrong. He did Kurt justice in his tribute. Worth the listen.

I watched a good chunk of it on Saturday morning, and I too was pretty surprised at how well done it was.

Having Travis Barker on drums didn’t hurt. The man’s a clock. The rest of the band was also real good. Changed my opinion of Malone for sure.

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Teukka  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:51:00am

Not saying this is the situation where I am, just thought the meme too good not to share.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:51:41am

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

Why are so many rich people complete douchebags?

They’ve conflated wealth with self-worth and their self-esteem (and ego) is directly tied into it.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:52:39am

Short FB exchange with someone I know who put down the link to “Flippy” (Autonomous robotic kitchen assistant) along with remark that “Net result of those Bernie supporters screaming for $15 an hour.”

I responded about how it won’t happen due to maintenance costs, technician costs, etc. as has been discussed here whenever this item periodically comes around. (And that if it really was economical MacDonald’s would have already done it.)

Response to that was “It will happen in time.” Which I took as sufficient reason to not engage further since the backstop goal post had already been put up to indicate that the OP was not really looking for a discussion but just tossing out a talking point for his local echo chamber.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:53:42am

re: #414 jaunte

Being a douchebag may be part of the mix that results in wealth.

I believe it’s the other way around. I recently read a good article on why belief in a meritocracy is bad for us, but basically it’s a wholly self-congratulatory belief system. As in, I am rich, therefore I must be better than everyone who is not as rich.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:56:54am

re: #425 Teukka

Biden as Rufus Scrimgeour.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:57:34am

re: #428 Renaissance_Man

I believe it’s the other way around. I recently read a good article on why belief in a meritocracy is bad for us, but basically it’s a wholly self-congratulatory belief system. As in, I am rich, therefore I must be better than everyone who is not as rich.

In part it’s because a capitalist meritocracy keeps score by wealth. Though I’d argue that a non-meritocracy system would arguably be worse since it’d probably fall back on an aristocracy or caste system given human preference for arbitrary tribal distinctions and I guess a need to feel superior to someone else by default.

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sagehen  Apr 29, 2020 • 8:58:27am

re: #393 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I can’t come up with any Republican president who didn’t screw the pooch on the economy, because after Lincoln, they’ve always been the party of big business, and big businesses want to own all the wealth.

Teddy Roosevelt.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:00:19am

re: #430 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

In part it’s because a capitalist meritocracy keeps score by wealth. Though I’d argue that a non-meritocracy system would arguably be worse since it’d probably fall back on an aristocracy or caste system given human preference for arbitrary tribal distinctions and I guess a need to feel superior to someone else by default.

That’s why I argue that we need to have the following yearly awards:
1. Total taxes paid + total donations to charity
2. (Total taxes paid + total donations to charity) / income
3. Total volunteer hours

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:01:11am

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

My proposal on opening these plants and forcing workers to choose between dying of a disease or dying of hunger: If a company opens, the CEO, the top 5 managers, and the 5 largest shareholders should also be required to work the line with the same level of protection provided to the workers.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:02:34am

Has anyone posted up the Rancho Cordova Police Vid? It’s a bad one.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:04:32am

re: #406 jaunte

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Jumped-up vapid nonentity says what?

The federal gov’t has said all along that it’s the states’ responsibility. Can they at least get one terrible message and stick with it?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:06:16am

re: #435 Mike Lamb

The federal gov’t has said all along that it’s the states’ responsibility. Can they at least get one terrible message and stick with it?

They don’t believe themselves in any of them. They are just jumping from one to another, and maybe back again, to see what might gain traction with the base and independents and thus improve Trump’s election chances and “ratings”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:06:38am

re: #435 Mike Lamb

The federal gov’t has said all along that it’s the states’ responsibility. Can they at least get one terrible message and stick with it?

They tell us whatever they think we need to hear at the moment knowing full well that they will be allowed to get away with it.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:10:31am

re: #430 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

In part it’s because a capitalist meritocracy keeps score by wealth. Though I’d argue that a non-meritocracy system would arguably be worse since it’d probably fall back on an aristocracy or caste system given human preference for arbitrary tribal distinctions and I guess a need to feel superior to someone else by default.

I’d argue that there are plenty of not-rich douchebags, the wealthy ones are just more prominent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:11:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:12:34am

re: #439 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:13:18am

Maybe someone should explain to Trump that if he tears the country apart, there won’t be anything to stop the ICC from coming after him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:13:50am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:15:47am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oy Vey. Anything but actual scientific research to cure the virus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:15:52am

moron

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:17:19am

re: #438 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I’d argue that there are plenty of not-rich douchebags, the wealthy ones are just more prominent.

That to. Not sure what makes people’s empathy/sympathy erode. Entitlement, social ossification, etc.

(Person I had the short exchange with about Flippy and $15/hour worked in a Wendy’s in college. You’d think they’d have a bit of empathy for fast-food workers, but I guess not. Though it might also be the “I got by on $3.35/hour in my day, they can make do on that as well!” adage which seems to be a standard conservative mantra. I have never accepted that particular approach, especially after seeing it used as a defense for hazing.)

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:20:51am

re: #445 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

That to. Not sure what makes people’s empathy/sympathy erode. Entitlement, social ossification, etc.

(Person I had the short exchange with about Flippy and $15/hour worked in a Wendy’s in college. You’d think they’d have a bit of empathy for fast-food workers, but I guess not. Though it might also be the “I got by on $3.35/hour in my day, they can make do on that as well!” adage which seems to be a standard conservative mantra. I have never accepted that particular approach, especially after seeing it used as a defense for hazing.)

Once upon a time, minimum wage was enough to support you. Minimally. Times have changed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:22:44am
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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:23:04am
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Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:24:53am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s not a failed message that Trump, Pence, and their acolytes don’t wear masks. Not wearing masks is the message.

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makeitstop  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:24:59am

re: #422 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s hit or miss with the time slots because several times there have been no slots and I have to select the flexible option which is a pain in the ass when I get an Instacart alert that they’re shopping while I’m teleworking and especially when I am on conference calls or Zoom meetings…

My wife has orders in with Instacart and Shipt, and they’re hella backed up around here. She just keeps the orders in and when they get here, they get here.

I’m still running to the market once a week, so between that and the pending orders we’re able to keep pretty well stocked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:25:20am
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Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:25:27am

Welp……..

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jeffreyw  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:28:14am

re: #427 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Short FB exchange with someone I know who put down the link to “Flippy” (Autonomous robotic kitchen assistant) along with remark that “Net result of those Bernie supporters screaming for $15 an hour.”

I read that as “Autonomous robotic kitten assistant” and now I want one.

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CleverToad  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:29:20am

re: #11 Thanos

It’s Spring, the chokecherry is doing it’s crazy blossoming thing.

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Pretty!
My mom loved chokecherry jelly, and she taught my kid. Can sometimes find it in the local Krogers/King Soopers, but usually have to hunt in other venues. Worth the search :)

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plansbandc  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:29:38am

re: #417 lawhawk

We can get a time slot here, but we definitely have to wait up to a week to get one. We’ve never been huge plan ahead grocery shoppers, so the old dogs are learning a new trick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:30:12am

jeebus

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Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:31:49am

re: #452 Dave In Austin

Welp……..

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I’ve looked at installing a small flock of chickens, mostly for eggs. The rules in our neighborhood permit it. Wife says neighbor’s cats will kill them. We are honorary Vicentini, the Italian magnagatti. Cats are protein.

Vicenza’s cuisine is deeply defined by the foods people prepared generations ago when Vicenza, along with the Veneto, experienced crippling poverty as a result of droughts, plagues, famines and wars caused by political machinations. For example, the local nickname “magnagatti” (literally cat-eaters) originated from a time when rumors started to circulate that the people of Vicenza, out of poverty and desperation, started eating cats. Although the truth behind the rumor is debatable, the locals’ full acceptance of the nickname and pride in being called cat-eaters attest to the resilience of Vicenza’s people as well as its culinary traditions.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:34:35am

re: #457 Decatur Deb

I can trade fish for venison or hog without issue if needed.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:34:45am

re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s deteriorating.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:35:43am
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Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:37:02am

re: #458 Dave In Austin

I can trade fish for venison or hog without issue if needed.

Daughter1 is our Venison Queen. She’s very good with a scoped 30.06.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:40:07am
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:40:18am

re: #452 Dave In Austin

A friend of mine tells me that Costco is limiting customers to 1 package of chicken and 1 of meat at a time. You’ve run out of time people

Betcha this is to head off hoarding, not because of any actual shortage. One thing none of the “running out of meat” stories have mentioned is that the companies are sitting on massive stores of frozen meat.

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sagehen  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:40:20am

re: #452 Dave In Austin

Welp……..

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If they’re that eager to fill their freezers with meat, may I point out that they make a huge fuss about they’ve got all the guns and claim they know how to use them?

Deer, duck and rabbit season won’t be here for months.

But turkey season is currently underway; wild boar and woodchuck is year-round (don’t even need a permit). And in some states, there’s no rules at all about squirrels and pigeons.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:41:46am

re: #464 sagehen

Shhhhhh! We love our Possum Steve and don’t want him harmed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:44:51am
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ericblair  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:45:51am

re: #392 Teukka

Well, what’s most likely is the ICC presenting the United States with an ultimatum:
Either you try him and/or his henchmen, or we do.
And as you point out, he and his underlings are in hot water outside of the executive branch of the United States.
You may think it unlikely, but there have to and fro been murmors about criminals from the big nations getting away with crimes, and criminals from small nations getting harsh punishment, so there is certainly a will to make an example that no-one is above the law.
And even though Darth Orange will never see any sanctions for his behavior, his underlings may, and the proceedings themselves may forever tarnish his reputation.

The US is not a signatory to the ICC. However, crimes against humanity, like piracy, are considered to have universal jurisdiction, which means that any nation could try an accused regardless of nationality or where in the world the offence was committed. So, any country that has the laws in place for it could arrest him and try him in their national court system. I think Dick Cheney has been pretty careful about where he travels.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:58:09am
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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:59:08am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 9:59:53am

re: #468 Backwoods_Sleuth

More on that:

Gilead Sciences said Wednesday preliminary results of a coronavirus drug trial showed at least 50% of patients treated with a 5-day dosage of antiviral drug remdesivir improved and more than half were discharged from the hospital within two weeks.

The company also said another trial by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases met its main goal. It did not provide further details, however.

Shares of Gilead were up more than 3% in midmorning trading.

The clinical trial involved 397 patients with severe cases of Covid-19. The severe study is “single-arm,” meaning it did not evaluate the drug against a control group of patients who didn’t receive the drug.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:03:09am

re: #470 Eclectic Cyborg

More on that:

Gilead Sciences said Wednesday preliminary results of a coronavirus drug trial showed at least 50% of patients treated with a 5-day dosage of antiviral drug remdesivir improved and more than half were discharged from the hospital within two weeks.

The company also said another trial by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases met its main goal. It did not provide further details, however.

Shares of Gilead were up more than 3% in midmorning trading.

The clinical trial involved 397 patients with severe cases of Covid-19. The severe study is “single-arm,” meaning it did not evaluate the drug against a control group of patients who didn’t receive the drug.

I wonder if you could look at the people in the test group, and find people with similar characteristics that have been infected but not tried the drug, and do a comparison that way?

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:05:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:05:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:07:07am
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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:07:27am

It’s NOT the flu.

Iframe

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:08:12am

re: #467 ericblair

The US is not a signatory to the ICC. However, crimes against humanity, like piracy, are considered to have universal jurisdiction, which means that any nation could try an accused regardless of nationality or where in the world the offence was committed. So, any country that has the laws in place for it could arrest him and try him in their national court system. I think Dick Cheney has been pretty careful about where he travels.

While war crimes and genocide have universal jurisdiction, crimes against humanity aren’t quite there. With respect to crimes against humanity, this is how the UN defines the term. And that’s tied to the ICC, which, again, the US is no longer a signatory.* I’m not sure you could technically claim any of Trump’s actions constitute an “attack” against a civilian population.

*Even if someone were to argue that the US couldn’t “unsign” the treaty, a president would only have to submit it to the Senate for ratification and watch it go down in flames.

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:08:39am

re: #474 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What are they “thrilled” and “happy” about? He’s demanding they stay open, the DPA doesn’t allow him to force people to show up and work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:08:58am

my shocked face…

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Mike Lamb  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:09:26am

re: #469 Disloyal Archangel

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Yes. It is unprecedented in how bad it has been.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:09:52am

re: #395 Renaissance_Man

Yeah, I don’t think it would be a bad thing at all.

Guillotines ~$1200 to craft. You’ll need to level up mining, forestry, woodworking, and blacksmithing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:10:12am

re: #396 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

How about Teddy?

The Panic of 1907 happened on his watch.

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KGxvi  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:11:41am

re: #474 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of the most amazing things about Trump is that, even though he has spent his entire life being a lying ass liar, he is so fucking terrible at it. To wit:

We’re gonna have good form of protection. Through quarantine, when we find somebody that’s not - we’re gonna be - they’re gonna be very careful. They are

Like, any good liar knows, the less you say, the better. He should have stopped at “we are working on a report that will have guidelines that should protect everyone.” Keep it vague, allow the listener to fill in the blanks, and defer an actual answer by saying a formal statement is coming later. That’s lying 101.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:13:10am

re: #463 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Meat is a bit harder to hoard than toilet paper, but things are gonna get ugly come Memorial Day/4th of July weekend…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:14:41am

re: #474 Backwoods_Sleuth

Asked how to protect workers in meat plants, Trump says they’ll have a report this afternoon: “We’re gonna have good form of protection. Through quarantine, when we find somebody that’s not - we’re gonna be - they’re gonna be very careful. They are.”

again, he made the announcement, made some promises and now they are scrambling for ways to look like they are keeping them…

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:15:44am

Great video here about the Tu-144.

Tu-144 - touching the legend (Central Air Force Museum, Russia)

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John Hughes  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:16:06am

re: #470 Eclectic Cyborg

The clinical trial involved 397 patients with severe cases of Covid-19. The severe study is “single-arm,” meaning it did not evaluate the drug against a control group of patients who didn’t receive the drug.

Professor Didier Raoult would approve the methodology.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:16:52am

re: #484 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Exactly. DT’s people only know one type of behavior: Make DT look good at all times no matter the cost.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:17:15am
A Louisville woman who had tested positive for the novel coronavirus was arrested Monday after police said she refused a court order to self-quarantine and went inside the Kroger at Central Station.

Kendra A. Burnett, 37, was arrested just before 10:30 a.m. at the Kroger, 3165 S. Second St., after her mother told a Louisville Metro Police officer that she was violating a court order to self-quarantine, according to an arrest citation.

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On Monday, Burnett’s mother pointed her out to the LMPD officer as Burnett left the store, the citation said.

The LMPD officer contacted the county attorney as well, who said Burnett had refused to self-quarantine about three times, according to the arrest report, which did not say when Burnett had tested positive for COVID-19.

courier-journal.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:17:49am
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Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:18:35am

re: #480 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Guillotines ~$1200 to craft. You’ll need to level up mining, forestry, woodworking, and blacksmithing.

Screw it, We can use mild steel for the cleaver, no need to harden it. How many you want?

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:19:41am

re: #482 KGxvi

One of the most amazing things about Trump is that, even though he has spent his entire life being a lying ass liar, he is so fucking terrible at it. To wit:

Like, any good liar knows, the less you say, the better. He should have stopped at “we are working on a report that will have guidelines that should protect everyone.” Keep it vague, allow the listener to fill in the blanks, and defer an actual answer by saying a formal statement is coming later. That’s lying 101.

It goes to Trump always acting like he’s the smartest guy in the room. He has to show off how smart he is by spewing word salad that he thinks makes him sound smart, aggressive, powerful, and the alpha male in every situation. We see it in everything he says and does, from his handshakes to how he treats women.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:19:51am

re: #403 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fella—Cleveland was President during the Panic of 1893…that led to Bryan’s hijacking of the Democratic Party and the election of McKinley.

That’s correct … the Panic started in the final days of McKinley’s administration. When Cleveland became President, he exacerbated the problem by repealing the Silver Purchase Act, because he felt only the gold standard was acceptable.

With the repeal of that act, bank runs started across the whole country. That was the source of Bryant’s “Cross of Gold” speech, the idea that Cleveland would crucify the country for the benefit of eastern banking interests which wanted a gold standard at the expense of midwestern and western farmers and businesses.

The problem had started in Argentina with the collapse of a bank there followed by a military coup.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:20:15am

re: #482 KGxvi

One of the most amazing things about Trump is that, even though he has spent his entire life being a lying ass liar, he is so fucking terrible at it. To wit:

Like, any good liar knows, the less you say, the better. He should have stopped at “we are working on a report that will have guidelines that should protect everyone.” Keep it vague, allow the listener to fill in the blanks, and defer an actual answer by saying a formal statement is coming later. That’s lying 101.

If he spoke coherently, he may not have his fanatic base. They would feel he’s just another politician speaking smoothly and lying to them (just as Ted Cruz does). Instead he talks in the language of the racists around them — not smoothly but speaking to them, like a normal person who fumbles for words. This style confirms his authenticity to them — he reacts the way they would.

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John Hughes  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:20:24am

re: #482 KGxvi

One of the most amazing things about Trump is that, even though he has spent his entire life being a lying ass liar, he is so fucking terrible at it.

Trump is not a liar. Trump is a bullshitter. Liars know that truth exists, that’s why they lie. Bullshitters just don’t care.

On Bullshit, Harry Frankfurt, Princeton University.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:20:51am

re: #490 Dave In Austin

Screw it, We can use mild steel for the cleaver, no need to harden it. How many you want?

First one to the guillotine gets the sharpest blade.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:21:21am

re: #477 Targetpractice

What are they “thrilled” and “happy” about? He’s demanding they stay open, the DPA doesn’t allow him to force people to show up and work.

I’m sure they were happy and thrilled when he fucking hung up at the end of it.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:22:08am

Here for giving the virus its own “Both-sides” say on the op-ed page of the Times

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:23:50am

O_o

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:24:40am

re: #497 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

They are correct especially in light of the bleach “cocktail.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:25:52am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:26:02am

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:28:09am

re: #408 Joe Bacon 🌹

Problem with using Instacart here in Los Angeles is that they never get my orders completely filled. Hard to get veggies and meat except for burger patties and hot dogs. Even frozen dinners are out of stock no matter what store I try.

What is this “Instacart” of which you speak? /s

Extremely local grocery update:

The general store here in town with its reduced hours and permanent “closed” sign in the window has had its effect. Everything I wanted this morning (bread, milk, cigarettes, &c) was available. Toilet paper and paper towels are in stock. Booze is in stock. Trump swag is in stock (I’ll pass).

I won the lotto! (Two free tickets in the 2x2).

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:28:25am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Spinning a total disaster as a “good thing”.

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Belafon  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:29:36am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

“Half you’re country is sick because of your ineptitude!”
“Yeah, but we’re so good at testing we know all of those people who are sick.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:29:39am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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OUR TESTING IS NOT SUPERIOR YOU FUCKING MALIGNANT TOAD.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:31:56am
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calochortus  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:32:45am

Good morning! Time for the obligatory “just back from Costco” report:

I scored everything on my list except yeast (which I won’t actually need for a while yet, but it never hurts to look, does it?) They even had TP, which was going fast and a small amount of Pepcid (no generic) which I bought because now that we live in a Soviet dystopia, I figured I should buy for Mr. C. while I could. The really important stuff, coffee, Medjool dates, blueberries, chips, etc. were in abundance. Plenty of meat, though apparently you could only buy one giant bag of frozen chicken at a time. I didn’t test that theory because I have some miscellaneous meat in the freezer, and if it became suddenly unavailable (which it won’t,) I don’t fear a vegetarian diet for a while.

Tangentially related: Trump is an idiot.

That is all.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:33:23am

re: #481 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The Panic of 1907 happened on his watch.

Before 1900, no-one thought that government should interfere in the economy at all, so there’s that. Even the Progressives only thought about breaking monopolies and regulating the quality and contents of merchandise.

I get really tired of people (GENERIC) who seem to think everything from government to technology to people’s attitudes is unchanged since the beginning of time.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:33:53am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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not if the ‘true’ number of cases is closer to say 3million

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calochortus  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:36:22am

re: #509 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

“It’s a number that in one way sounds bad but in another way is really actually an indication that our testing is so superior finally catching up.”

Fixed.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:37:45am

re: #508 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Before 1900, no-one thought that government should interfere in the economy at all, so there’s that. Even the Progressives only thought about breaking monopolies and regulating the quality and contents of merchandise.

I get really tired of people (GENERIC) who seem to think everything from government to technology to people’s attitudes is unchanged since the beginning of time.

Panic of 1907 essentially resulted in the Federal Reserve System forming. Since J P Morgan and the eastern banks had done a lot to prevent that particular panic from being worse by putting up a bunch of money and helping stop the run on the banks. That was quickly viewed as not necessarily being a good thing since some argued that said banks gained more influence thereby.
(Edit: Forgot to add: SOCIALISM!)

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Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:38:05am

Yeah, we’re still losing soldiers left and right, but at least we now know how many we’ve lost and that’s due to our superior intelligence!

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Alephnaught  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:38:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:38:40am

re: #508 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Before 1900, no-one thought that government should interfere in the economy at all, so there’s that. Even the Progressives only thought about breaking monopolies and regulating the quality and contents of merchandise.

America did not have large, international stock corporations when the Constitution was drafted. Most businesses were small affairs, owned and run by one person or family. Which meant that unions were painted as gangs using undue leverage on an individual.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:38:57am

re: #513 Alephnaught

Is they don’t go to “11” it’s not a high quality toaster.
//

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:39:58am

re: #511 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Panic of 1907 essentially resulted in the Federal Reserve System forming. Since J P Morgan and the eastern banks had done a lot to prevent that particular panic from being worse by putting up a bunch of money and helping stop the run on the banks. That was quickly viewed as not necessarily being a good thing since some argued that said banks gained more influence thereby.

Government regulation of the economy is a Progressive idea, at least in this country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:40:57am

re: #513 Alephnaught

“What do the numbers on a toaster mean exactly?” Daft Limmy’s asking the big questions.

He should ask Philomena Cunk

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:41:15am

re: #514 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America did not have large, international stock corporations when the Constitution was drafted. Most businesses were small affairs, owned and run by one person or family. Which meant that unions were painted as gangs using undue leverage on an individual.

Though the writing was on the wall since the East India Company was already in existence. Perhaps not noticed since they were mostly involved with unleashing their private army/navy and considerable influence on the Indian subcontinent and Far East.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:41:31am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nice take there, Forbes. Lava kills pretty much everything. How about Lava soap? That’s probably safer on your hands.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:41:53am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:42:18am

re: #519 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Nice take there, Forbes. Lava kills pretty much everything. How about Lava soap? That’s probably safer on your hands.

Though pumice is not very good for the lungs. I’d advise against breathing it as a lung treatment.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:42:52am

re: #482 KGxvi

One of the most amazing things about Trump is that, even though he has spent his entire life being a lying ass liar, he is so fucking terrible at it. To wit:

Like, any good liar knows, the less you say, the better. He should have stopped at “we are working on a report that will have guidelines that should protect everyone.” Keep it vague, allow the listener to fill in the blanks, and defer an actual answer by saying a formal statement is coming later. That’s lying 101.

He’s out of his element. He can’t throw in any intelligent buzz words that somehow relate to the topic at hand so this is what he says. He could bullshit better if it was hotel or some business he has even a rudimentary knowledge of but none of this can be easily bullshitted.

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:43:58am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:48:06am

re: #501 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Shoot. Wrong tweet above.

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lawhawk  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:48:18am

re: #514 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America did not have large, international stock corporations when the Constitution was drafted. Most businesses were small affairs, owned and run by one person or family. Which meant that unions were painted as gangs using undue leverage on an individual.

The big issue at the time of the drafting of the Constitution would be whether we’d remain an agrarian society or mercantile/business. It was Jefferson versus Hamilton, and Hamilton’s vision won out. Hamilton pushed for industrial development, and even helped advance that with a facility in Paterson NJ next to the Great Falls to try and create power for industrial purposes.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 29, 2020 • 10:56:13am

re: #490 Dave In Austin

Screw it, We can use mild steel for the cleaver, no need to harden it. How many you want?

How to harden steel with a torch

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:00:14am

re: #508 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Before 1900, no-one thought that government should interfere in the economy at all, so there’s that. Even the Progressives only thought about breaking monopolies and regulating the quality and contents of merchandise.

I get really tired of people (GENERIC) who seem to think everything from government to technology to people’s attitudes is unchanged since the beginning of time.

I was simply referring to how Republicans treated the economy as it existed in each presidency.

No matter how the economy was viewed in what era, Republicans screwed it up. Regardless of the economic setup, the GOP has always been the party of big business since the end of the Civil War. Thus their economic policies, regardless of how people viewed the economy, tended to favour big businesses at the expense of everyone else. Hence all the panics and economic collapses.

Collapsing the silver industry by the GOP lead to a Populist Party governor elected in Colorado. When Gov. Waite sought to remove corrupt officials from Denver installed by the GOP, they used gangsters and criminals to barricade themselves into city hall. The governor had to use the state militia to dislodge them. Following that, the GOP fought in court all the way to the state supreme court to argue Gov. Waite did not have the authority to remove corrupt city commissioners (the court ruled in favour of the governor).

Protestants aligned with the GOP formed a protective society, the purpose of which was to force businesses to fire Catholics. In response, the Catholic Church infiltrated the organisation to out corrupt GOP officials leading it.

The Populist Party of the XIX promoted collectivism and labour with the help of people like Eugene Debs, and in 1892 won four states in the Presidential election (the idea government should interfere in the economy). The party collapsed with Williams Jennings Bryant taking over their message and making it part of the Democratic Party platform.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:10:35am

PRETZEL THREAD:

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gocart mozart  Apr 29, 2020 • 11:38:01am

re: #266 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Here is the complete movie

Assassin 33 AD

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danarchy  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:03:15pm

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

Why are so many rich people complete douchebags?

I’d be willing to bet that the ratio of douchebags is the same in pretty much all socio economic levels. It is just the rich douchebags have a big platform so they make the news.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:22:43pm

re: #344 b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)

Good morning Lizards:

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You know someone has been sitting there for 2 days, banging their head against the wall, trying to solve that damn thing.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 29, 2020 • 1:37:02pm

re: #383 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

contrast with this insanity:

Said Kushner: “I think what you’ll see in May as the states are reopening now is May will be a transition month, you’ll see a lot of states starting to phase in the different reopening based on the safety guidelines that President Trump outlined on April 19.”

He added: “I think you’ll see by June that a lot of the country should be back to normal, and the hope is that by July the country’s really rocking again.”

and then the dragons came …

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 29, 2020 • 2:39:58pm

re: #420 Disloyal Archangel

Good morning/evening/afternoon folks!

[Embedded content]

Captain Bark needed on the bridge.

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CleverToad  Apr 29, 2020 • 6:25:17pm

re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a story involving Siegfried and Roy and how Roy came out onstage with a new pair of python-skin boots. This prompted one of the cats to leap down and attack them, thinking they were a threat to their beloved trainer.

It all happened so quickly, and everybody was in such shock and surprise that nobody was sure which of the tigers had done it.

So later, after the victim had awakened in the hospital, they came with photos and asked:

“Pardon me, Roy, is this the cat that chewed your new shoes?”

*snerk*

Probably CL’d at this point, but that’s a variation I don’t remember on the (probably older) version that involved Roy Rogers, new cowboy boots and a bobcat.

Still worth a groan.

EDIT: never mind, addressed later in the thread.
I’ll catch up one of these days………..


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