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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:05:56am

Feel good thread of the day

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:08:27am

re: #1 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Ted is taking time to honestly respond to everyone saying welcome to the resistance.

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KGxvi  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:11:19am

re: #2 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Glad to see the scales falling from eyes.

I’ve been a bit burnt out the last day or two, and just sort of melancholy. So going to try and unplug and decompress for a few days. See ya all on the flip side.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:12:25am

re: #2 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Ted is taking time to honestly respond to everyone saying welcome to the resistance.

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I’m seriously curious.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:13:16am

re: #3 KGxvi

Glad to see the scales falling from eyes.

I’ve been a bit burnt out the last day or two, and just sort of melancholy. So going to try and unplug and decompress for a few days. See ya all on the flip side.

I feel ya. I had to disappear for a couple of days myself.

Take care of yourself.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:13:49am

re: #3 KGxvi

Glad to see the scales falling from eyes.

I’ve been a bit burnt out the last day or two, and just sort of melancholy. So going to try and unplug and decompress for a few days. See ya all on the flip side.

Take care. See ya back here soon.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:14:21am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:14:52am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:16:14am
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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:18:16am

Dealing with this constantly on and off twitter and it seems like it’s only getting worse, and worse, and fucking worse.

Trump is going full fascist in fast-forward and we have a gigantic fucking glut of people in this country that are willing to dick kick the Dems and burn everything down because they’re not getting all their fucking ponies.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:19:12am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:19:18am

@realDonaldTrump is quite, simply, an American mobster.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:19:34am

Picking up the Senate conversation from the last thread:

If I had the money to send in to any Senate race right now, I’d be all in on Jaime Harrison.

He’s been holding even with Lindsey in the polls all summer, and I get the impression that Lindsey has become just generally unlikable even at home in SC.

And you’ll have a flood of Democratic ad dollars in border media markets (Charlotte, Asheville, Augusta) that might be mainly aimed at boosting NC and GA turnout but won’t hurt any in SC.

If we score both this seat and a Jones re-election in AL, it would go a LONG way to eroding the last solid bloc of dependable red seats for the GOP.

If I were putting money on a second race, too, it would be MJ Hegar.

(Sidenote: why can’t we have a Florida seat up in this cycle? If ever the odds were in our favor, this should be the year, and ousting either Rubio or Rick Scott would be so sweet.)

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cat-tikvah  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:19:41am

Here’s Senator Pat Toomey’s (R, PA, Vichy) hot take on the USPS being sabotaged; excerpted from email message (bolded by me). I called his office to say that he has no credibility, neither does DeJoy, and that the GOP citing “conspiracy theories” has killed the irony meter.

In recent weeks, some politicians and media figures have peddled conspiracy theories about actions taken by the USPS to save money. These persons cite sensible reforms like having mail carriers make only a single delivery run each day (as opposed to multiple runs in the same neighborhood) in order to reduce overtime expenses and removing underused postal boxes (even though 12,000 collection boxes were removed during the Obama administration according to the USPS Inspector General). Given the blowback resulting from misinformation, on August 18, 2020, Postmaster General Louis DeJoy announced that the USPS would be suspending all reforms until after this fall’s election and stated that “the Postal Service is ready to handle whatever volume of election mail it receives this fall.” You may read the full statement here: about.usps.com.

For further context, even if every voter who participated in the 2016 election voted by absentee ballot this year, that would still amount to less mail than the average amount delivered by the USPS - 400 million - each day. Given the problems in several 2020 primaries with voting-by-mail, concerns about election integrity have far more to do with unrealistic state balloting deadlines, overwhelmed local election offices, and sending ballots universally to people who don’t request them (as California and other states plan to do).

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:21:56am

Cher raises $2 million for Biden at LGBTQ virtual fundraiser (goes to the Blade)

Great details in the article. about Cher meeting Biden.

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Jay C  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:22:16am

re: #2 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Maybe just anecdotal, but I was speaking to one of my financial advisers today (young guy - 30s - new family - working from home on LI), and when the subject of the election came up, he mentioned that he was a Republican: but hastened to add that he was a “Lincoln Project Republican”, and hated Trump for (among everything else) poisoning the brand.

He had an interesting take on the markets, though: agreed that they were being mainly propped up by the Fed (and would continue to be for a while yet), but that there would probably be a big correction either just before or just after the election. NOT, we agreed, because a Biden Administration was going to institute the Bolshevik Terror - but mainly because the markets will be needing an excuse to profit-take, and the election will be as good a one as any.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:23:04am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

They’re also quick to START violent protests…or at he very least protests that could easily become violent.

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gwangung  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:25:23am

re: #10 Citizen K

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Dealing with this constantly on and off twitter and it seems like it’s only getting worse, and worse, and fucking worse.

Trump is going full fascist in fast-forward and we have a gigantic fucking glut of people in this country that are willing to dick kick the Dems and burn everything down because they’re not getting all their fucking ponies.

A lot of progressives forget that ideas being popular is not the same as candidates being popular. It really DOES matter that a politician needs to be personally appealing (and a good manager and a cogent thinker) as well as putting forth progressive ideas.

Its NOT ENOUGH to have good ideas. You have to manage a good campaign, you have to manage people and you have to have a basic amount of personal appeal to win.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:27:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:27:57am

re: #18 gwangung

Its NOT ENOUGH to have good ideas. You have to manage a good campaign, you have to manage people and you have to have a basic amount of personal appeal to win.

You also have to beat the media/social media bias machine.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:28:01am

Here’s what we know about the USPS.

Before DeJoy dismantled the scanners and stopped OT, we were seeing on time mail delivery. We know this from the USPS own metrics.

Since Trump put sabotage of USPS on his agenda, the delivery time metrics have fallen off the cliff, and this affects everyone from those waiting to get their mail order meds to payroll checks and SS checks and bills.

USPS is a key way that rural Americans communicate, and Trump’s fucking all those folks over too.

Trump’s too busy lying and sabotaging to care, as he’s moving on to the next act of sabotage.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:28:47am

Whenever Trevor Noah raises his eyebrows, he gets Klingon Forehead.

Now I can’t unsee that.

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:28:48am

re: #18 gwangung

A lot of progressives forget that ideas being popular is not the same as candidates being popular. It really DOES matter that a politician needs to be personally appealing (and a good manager and a cogent thinker) as well as putting forth progressive ideas.

Its NOT ENOUGH to have good ideas. You have to manage a good campaign, you have to manage people and you have to have a basic amount of personal appeal to win.

Not to mention again that some voters will like a policy but determine some other policy to be their one and only redline, forgoing any support for those other policies over there. As well as folks who will instantly hate a policy once a certain party gets attached to it due to sheer contrariansm.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:28:54am

re: #10 Citizen K

And this tweet:

exactly misses the point you’re making. The ACA was a step, because we weren’t going to get to the goal in the one round.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:29:17am

re: #19 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Exactly. There’s a well known quote that I can’t remember about the moment about telling a lie so often it eventually becomes the truth. That is precisely what these people are doing.

Also, truth and PERCEPTION can be two very different things.

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:30:01am

re: #24 Belafon

And this tweet:

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exactly misses the point you’re making. The ACA was a step, because we weren’t going to get to the goal in the one round.

Been saying it a lot lately, but it’s making perfect necessarily the enemy of good, even if it means letting evil win.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:30:19am

re: #14 cat-tikvah

Here’s Senator Pat Toomey’s (R, PA, Vichy) hot take on the USPS being sabotaged; excerpted from email message (bolded by me). I called his office to say that he has no credibility, neither does DeJoy, and that the GOP citing “conspiracy theories” has killed the irony meter.

In recent weeks, some politicians and media figures have peddled conspiracy theories about actions taken by the USPS to save money. These persons cite sensible reforms like having mail carriers make only a single delivery run each day (as opposed to multiple runs in the same neighborhood) in order to reduce overtime expenses and removing underused postal boxes (even though 12,000 collection boxes were removed during the Obama administration according to the USPS Inspector General). Given the blowback resulting from misinformation, on August 18, 2020, Postmaster General Louis DeJoy announced that the USPS would be suspending all reforms until after this fall’s election and stated that “the Postal Service is ready to handle whatever volume of election mail it receives this fall.” You may read the full statement here: about.usps.com.

For further context, even if every voter who participated in the 2016 election voted by absentee ballot this year, that would still amount to less mail than the average amount delivered by the USPS - 400 million - each day. Given the problems in several 2020 primaries with voting-by-mail, concerns about election integrity have far more to do with unrealistic state balloting deadlines, overwhelmed local election offices, and sending ballots universally to people who don’t request them (as California and other states plan to do).

So easy question then: How does removing mechanical sorting/scanning machines increase efficiency?

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:31:51am

re: #10 Citizen K

“Content Town, USA” is Rose MAGA or a Russian bot. There is not a thing you can do, short of a bomb, that will sway their opinion.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:34:39am

That was yesterday so I updated it
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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:36:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:36:19am

re: #19 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Basically, much of Trumpworld appears to see extreme exaggeration as no-lose: 1) lots of people believe the lie; 2) if the lie is corrected, they can turn the correction into an example of media bias - accusing the correcters of being hatefully blind to some different point.

I gave up on a gay Republican friend who continues to spout easily-refuted GOP talking points. I really wonder how much of it is just his contrarian, cantankerous personality and how much of it is his political convictions.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:37:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:37:28am

re: #24 Belafon

And this tweet:

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exactly misses the point you’re making. The ACA was a step, because we weren’t going to get to the goal in the one round.

ACA also made it mandatory to cover pre-existing conditions, something that Trump has been out to dismantle from the get-go.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:37:53am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

He’s got that weird lean forward stance. That’s just so weird.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:39:02am

re: #26 Citizen K

Been saying it a lot lately, but it’s making perfect necessarily the enemy of good, even if it means letting evil win.

“If evil wins, more people will TaKe To tHe StReEts!”
“After evil, us.”
“I got mine, pal!”

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:39:34am
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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:40:14am

re: #34 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

He’s got that weird lean forward stance. That’s just so weird.

Since his elder male spawn often mimic it, I’d say it’s some sort of weird alpha male stance that they think makes them look like they’re in charge instead of ready to topple over.

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ericblair  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:40:55am

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I gave up on a gay Republican friend who continues to spout easily-refuted GOP talking points. I really wonder how much of it is just his contrarian, cantankerous personality and how much of it is his political convictions.

My read is that it’s to pledge fealty to “his” side. It doesn’t matter what the truth is, and the wilder the lie the more he shows his loyalty. That’s why you get 37% of the poll respondents saying that the economy is better than last year: they know what you’re really asking (do you support Trump) and they respond appropriately.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:41:46am
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:44:14am

re: #10 Citizen K

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Dealing with this constantly on and off twitter and it seems like it’s only getting worse, and worse, and fucking worse.

Trump is going full fascist in fast-forward and we have a gigantic fucking glut of people in this country that are willing to dick kick the Dems and burn everything down because they’re not getting all their fucking ponies.

Remind your friend that the ACA is what you can get when you need every single dem vote — because the repugs are in lock step against whatever the dems have to offer.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:45:04am

re: #36 gocart mozart

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Certainly more fitting than constantly photoshopping the faces of one’s enemies onto the Children of the Damned.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:45:22am

re: #34 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

He’s got that weird lean forward stance. That’s just so weird.

Lifts in his shoes…..

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:45:24am

re: #40 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Remind your friend that the ACA act is what you can get when you need every single dem vote — because the repugs are in lock step against whatever the dems have to offer.

What frustrates me about the purity ponies is they ignore that ACA is supposed to be a start not the end. Social Security when it was enacted in 1935 exempted agricultural workers for example.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:46:27am

re: #14 cat-tikvah

Here’s Senator Pat Toomey’s (R, PA, Vichy) hot take on the USPS being sabotaged; excerpted from email message (bolded by me). I called his office to say that he has no credibility, neither does DeJoy, and that the GOP citing “conspiracy theories” has killed the irony meter.

In recent weeks, some politicians and media figures have peddled conspiracy theories about actions taken by the USPS to save money. These persons cite sensible reforms like having mail carriers make only a single delivery run each day (as opposed to multiple runs in the same neighborhood) in order to reduce overtime expenses and removing underused postal boxes (even though 12,000 collection boxes were removed during the Obama administration according to the USPS Inspector General). Given the blowback resulting from misinformation, on August 18, 2020, Postmaster General Louis DeJoy announced that the USPS would be suspending all reforms until after this fall’s election and stated that “the Postal Service is ready to handle whatever volume of election mail it receives this fall.” You may read the full statement here: about.usps.com.

For further context, even if every voter who participated in the 2016 election voted by absentee ballot this year, that would still amount to less mail than the average amount delivered by the USPS - 400 million - each day. Given the problems in several 2020 primaries with voting-by-mail, concerns about election integrity have far more to do with unrealistic state balloting deadlines, overwhelmed local election offices, and sending ballots universally to people who don’t request them (as California and other states plan to do).

That doesn’t explain why they destroyed all those sorting machines.

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gwangung  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:47:24am

re: #43 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

What frustrates me about the purity ponies is they ignore that ACA is supposed to be a start not the end. Social Security when it was enacted in 1935 exempted agricultural workers for example.

They don’t count the voters who oppose their policies as real people. The only real people are those that agree with them.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:48:00am

“Look at all the work Ivanka has done for you, the American worker!”

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:48:22am

re: #27 Mike Lamb

GMTA

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:48:31am

re: #42 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Lifts in his shoes…..

and an ass so big it has a competing center of gravity

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:48:45am

re: #39 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure the sun deserves most of the credit.

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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:49:53am

That video clip of Trump talking about thugs on planes this morning reminds me of this.

The Simpsons - I Saw One Of The Babies And The Baby Looked At Me

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:51:16am

re: #37 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Since his elder male spawn often mimic it, I’d say it’s some sort of weird alpha male stance that they think makes them look like they’re in charge instead of ready to topple over.

Or a genetic back problem.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:52:10am

re: #46 jaunte

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“Look at all the work Ivanka has done for you, the American worker!”

It’s a lame ass attempt to try to appeal to women.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:52:55am

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s a lame ass attempt to try to appeal to women.

Does anyone actually like Ivanka other than her father?

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ericblair  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:55:12am

re: #46 jaunte

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“Look at all the work Ivanka has done for you, the American worker!”

I’m sure all the knuckle-dragging racists are stoked to vote for President Marketing Barbie (Make America Effect Re-imagined Synergies Again!)

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:55:54am

Just got another Google Adsense policy violation for a post from 2015. WTF is going on here?

I turned off the comments, requested a review, and the violation was lifted within minutes.

This is absolutely maddening.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:56:02am

re: #53 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Does anyone actually like Ivanka other than her father?

All the Republican men who want to fuck her.

Like her daddy does.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:56:56am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Just got another Google Adsense policy violation for a post from 2015. WTF is going on here?

I turned off the comments, requested a review, and the violation was lifted within minutes.

This is absolutely maddening.

Someone is reporting them. Stalkers perhaps.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:57:07am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Some of these RW assholes have waaaaay too much time on their hands.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:57:22am

re: #56 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

All the Republican men who want to fuck her.

Like her daddy does.

I said like not lust.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:57:57am

Straight dude here. I don’t find Ivanka attractive in the slightest. She’s got a weird “Stepford Wife” thing going on.

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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:59:13am

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s a lame ass attempt to try to appeal to women.

Or men who think Vanky is hot.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:59:23am

I lost face today—about a square centimeter of cheek gouged out by the dermatologist. Baja Alabama is one of the places that claim to be The Skin Cancer Capital of the Country.

On the way back, I set up our traveling voter registration table in the library portico. Despite warnings, one of my League of Women Voters volunteers hung in there for an hour or so, but the display is set up to run unattended. It’s arranged to provide DIY mail-in VR, absentee ballot requests, and voter education handouts. It also displays QR codes linked to VR and LWV websites and the Secretary of State site.

I’ll maintain vehicle surveillance over it for a few days, then we’ll go to the next branch. Next step in defeating the virus environment is to work through plate glass, with a large-screen monitor and computer inside the building and a sanitizable keyboard and mouse outside.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:59:23am

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Straight dude here. I don’t find Ivanka attractive in the slightest. She’s got a weird “Stepford Wife” thing going on.

She’s not the most unattractive person I’ve ever seen but she’s an unattractive person based on all I’ve seen from her. The whole “I’m the Trump with a social conscience” bullshit. No you ain’t Vanky, you’re your father’s daughter in everyway.

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piratedan  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:59:25am

re: #10 Citizen K

more purity pony bullshit…

no more claims denial on pre-existing conditions
kids on policies til age 26
no more crap insurance policies
affordable insurance covering more americans than ever before (in the MILLIONS)

perfect… no, better yes and for those that benefited a tangible plus

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 1, 2020 • 11:59:38am

re: #53 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Does anyone actually like Ivanka other than her father?

I’ll let an anonymous Indian diplomat field that question.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:00:21pm

I slept late this morning, so Good (almost) Afternoon!

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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:00:39pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Straight dude here. I don’t find Ivanka attractive in the slightest. She’s got a weird “Stepford Wife” thing going on.

All I see is Eric in drag.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:02:43pm

re: #59 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I said like not lust.

Too many can’t differentiate.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:04:34pm
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SerialUpDinger  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:05:15pm

Something, not news-related or even Trump-related but involving relationships.
Today, on the 20th anniversary of the death of my birth mother, quite out of the blue, I received a call from a long-lost sister. My last memory of her was from 1964 when she and another sister were removed from the house where we lived and placed into foster care. As the eldest of five children, born to parents who were woefully unprepared to handle their lives — much less five children under the age of six — I lived a life consumed by hunger, dread, and grief by learning to survive without parents to guide and care for us. Shortly thereafter, a sister passed away due to rheumatoid arthritis. The death hit our home quite hard, parents divorced, we (remaining sister and I) were placed into the foster care system. A coupled of months into our stay we were returned to our father — in six weeks time, he found a woman and got married. Our newly redefined family moved into a house together and put a lid on our previous lives and memories. No words were spoken about the two siblings who were taken away and a fading of discussions about the sister who passed. Life went on.

Our birth mother moved away when I was 8, and we never saw her again. Flash forward to 2001 and at my wife’s urging, I looked up my birth mothers’ info on the internet. Her last name was unique enough that she was the only name that popped up during a search of birth records. So weird to see the names of all the siblings in one place. Sadly, she had passed away the previous year. She turned her life around and passed away after having lived a stable family life with her husband and son from her last marriage. A feeling of rejection (she never mentioned the fact that she had five children to her family) was replaced with happiness for her having found some solace in this life.

During this phone call, I found that the two sisters were adopted into a loving family and the path their lives was a much better one. She had waited until her parents were gone before looking for the big brother who picked her up out of the playpen. So odd to be the focus of someone else’s earliest memories. We had a nice talk — emotional sometimes — now look forward to meeting in Covid-19 world.

One more mystery solved!

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:05:18pm

I’m off to do the things I didn’t do this morning, but:

1) New covid cases today in CA are less than 4000 for the first time since about June, and the 14-day average is below 5000.

2) 14-day average rate of positive cases is 5.3% and dropping.

3) In my little town (some day, I’ll find out why our cases are tracked separately from the county’s), rate of positive tests dropped below 2% for the first time since forever.

If those numbers still seem large to you,

a) they are.

b) consider the population of California.

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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:05:34pm

Last night the plane was headed for the RNC (which ended 3 days before the plane took off).

Today, the plane was going ‘from Washington to wherever.’

Ralph Wiggum talking about the babies is a more consistent story.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:06:49pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:07:20pm

re: #13 i(m)p(each)sos

Picking up the Senate conversation from the last thread:

If I had the money to send in to any Senate race right now, I’d be all in on Jaime Harrison.

He’s been holding even with Lindsey in the polls all summer, and I get the impression that Lindsey has become just generally unlikable even at home in SC.

And you’ll have a flood of Democratic ad dollars in border media markets (Charlotte, Asheville, Augusta) that might be mainly aimed at boosting NC and GA turnout but won’t hurt any in SC.

If we score both this seat and a Jones re-election in AL, it would go a LONG way to eroding the last solid bloc of dependable red seats for the GOP.

If I were putting money on a second race, too, it would be MJ Hegar.

(Sidenote: why can’t we have a Florida seat up in this cycle? If ever the odds were in our favor, this should be the year, and ousting either Rubio or Rick Scott would be so sweet.)

I’m going to make a small donation to Harrison and a few others.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:07:48pm

re: #72 makeitstop

Last night the plane was headed for the RNC (which ended 3 days before the plane took off).

Today, the plane was going ‘from Washington to wherever.’

[Embedded content]

Ralph Wiggum talking about the babies is a more consistent story.

And then someone said sir to me and I remembered I was the greatest president ever!

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:08:50pm

re: #72 makeitstop

Last night the plane was headed for the RNC (which ended 3 days before the plane took off).

Today, the plane was going ‘from Washington to wherever.’

[Embedded content]

Ralph Wiggum talking about the babies is a more consistent story.

Someone has x-ray eyes to see all the black costumes in the plane?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:10:23pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:10:48pm

re: #72 makeitstop

Last night the plane was headed for the RNC (which ended 3 days before the plane took off).

Today, the plane was going ‘from Washington to wherever.’

[Embedded content]

Was there blood coming out of this one, or no?

//

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:11:02pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:12:02pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:12:16pm

re: #74 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m going to make a small donation to Harrison and a few others.

I already have, and will again — going to put all that money I haven’t been able to spend for 5 1/2 months because I cannot go out to good use. AZ too, GA and KY (because just maybe), and I’ll find others.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:12:55pm

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah it’s not like he’s President. Fucking asshole wants all the glory of the presidency and none of the responsibilities.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:16:26pm

re: #80 teleskiguy

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:21:14pm

Chris Titus goes all in eviscerating Trumpists:

It’s a long thread, and worth the read.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:26:14pm

re: #84 lawhawk

Chris Titus goes all in eviscerating Trumpists:

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It’s a long thread, and worth the read.

Hell of a rant. Jim Gaffigan’s was also on point

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nines09  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:26:59pm

Just a thought.
So hard guy Tea Party water the tree of liberty die for my freedom has 2 months worth of freeze dried food in his basement.

He can survive the nuclear winter.
If he’s a deer hunter he drenches himself in buck piss, wraps a gaiter around his face and sits still while the drive sends the deer to him. For hours. In the cold and rain and snow.

Plays cosplay with all manner of T shirts and hats and bumper stickers, screams about how he packs and loves his Pep Boys bolt ons to his arsenal.
Brags about how he did this and that and how everybody else is a pussy and on and on and fucking on.

Why does he melt down when told to wear a mask?
Doesn’t he know he can dress up like Billy The Kid?
I’m missing something…..
No I’m not.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:28:35pm

re: #85 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Hell of a rant. Jim Gaffigan’s was also on point

Why are comedians the only ones really NOT afraid to tell it like it is?

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:28:59pm

re: #86 nines09

If he’s a deer hunter he drenches himself in buck piss

Trumpers seem to have a very specific kink, and it isn’t masks.

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JC1  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:31:30pm

re: #26 Citizen K

Been saying it a lot lately, but it’s making perfect necessarily the enemy of good, even if it means letting evil win.

But it’s fair to ask if the step that was ACA was a long enough step. It is better than what existed before, but was as nearly as good as what could have been passed with a supermajority in the Senate (I get that the supermajority only existed for a short time due to Al Franken delay and Kennedy’s death, and that it included some blue dogs), but still. GWB and Trump managed to pass massive top heavy tax cuts with far slimmer majorities.

I’m left to wonder if Obama wanted something like a public option or if he thought that that was a step too far. No Medicare drug price negotiation? No importing of drugs from other countries? And a massive amount of political capital wasted.

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:35:29pm

re: #89 JC1

But it’s fair to ask if the step that was ACA was a long enough step. It is better than what existed before, but was as nearly as good as what could have been passed with a supermajority in the Senate (I get that the supermajority only existed for a short time due to Al Franken delay and Kennedy’s death, and that it included some blue dogs), but still. GWB and Trump managed to pass massive top heavy tax cuts with far slimmer majorities.

I’m left to wonder if Obama wanted something like a public option or if he thought that that was a step too far. No Medicare drug price negotiation? No importing of drugs from other countries? And a massive amount of political capital wasted.

You fail to take into account just how much of the ACA negotiations were as much against the right-most edge of the Dem caucuses as it was against the GOP. 2009 had actual conservative Dems and Blue Dogs that had to be negotiated with (and against in some cases). Remember that the faint supermajority also had to include Joe fucking Lieberman.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:36:41pm

re: #89 JC1

But it’s fair to ask if the step that was ACA was a long enough step. It is better than what existed before, but was as nearly as good as what could have been passed with a supermajority in the Senate (I get that the supermajority only existed for a short time due to Al Franken delay and Kennedy’s death, and that it included some blue dogs), but still. GWB and Trump managed to pass massive top heavy tax cuts with far slimmer majorities.

I’m left to wonder if Obama wanted something like a public option or if he thought that that was a step too far. No Medicare drug price negotiation? No importing of drugs from other countries? And a massive amount of political capital wasted.

Obama did want the public opition. We didn’t get it because of Lieberman. I do agree that it could have perhaps been done better but we did get it which was huge given Clinton’s failure on the issue sixteen years prior.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:38:03pm

re: #90 Citizen K

You fail to take into account just how much of the ACA negotiations were as much against the right-most edge of the Dem caucuses as it was against the GOP. 2009 had actual conservative Dems and Blue Dogs that had to be negotiated with (and against in some cases). Remember that the faint supermajority also had to include Joe fucking Lieberman.

That’s the thing that I laugh when people claim the Dems have moved to the right. The Blue Dogs have very little influence in the caucus. I feel that although I expect 2022 to favor the R’s on the House side (due to precedent), I don’t think they’re going to be able to replicate their same success in 2010 and 1994.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:41:52pm

re: #82 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah it’s not like he’s President. Fucking asshole wants all the glory of the presidency and none of the responsibilities.

He thinks that the “real job” was CAMPAIGNING in 2016, and it was like winning a pageant. He gets to “Be President” for 4 years, just like being Miss Universe, and he gets to do a bunch of ceremonial stuff, and then he gets to be in another pageant.

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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:42:08pm

Thread.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:42:08pm

re: #89 JC1

But it’s fair to ask if the step that was ACA was a long enough step. It is better than what existed before, but was as nearly as good as what could have been passed with a supermajority in the Senate (I get that the supermajority only existed for a short time due to Al Franken delay and Kennedy’s death, and that it included some blue dogs), but still. GWB and Trump managed to pass massive top heavy tax cuts with far slimmer majorities.

I’m left to wonder if Obama wanted something like a public option or if he thought that that was a step too far. No Medicare drug price negotiation? No importing of drugs from other countries? And a massive amount of political capital wasted.

Based on the makeup of the Democrats and Republicans in office, yes, it was the biggest thing that could be passed. They had to get one Republican, Collins, just to get it to the point where they could vote to pass it.

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nines09  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:42:21pm

re: #88 jaunte

They truly are fucked in the head. I tried talking to quite a few.
Useless.

After this shitshow is over, those who I disowned will stay disowned.

They can kiss my white Irish ass.

Saw a statement today on Facebook today from a dude who I’ve “known” for decades.
Huge Trump Train jagoff.

He’s distressed with BOTH SIDES NOW.

Oh my.

Eat me.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:43:21pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:43:25pm

re: #93 The Pie Overlord!

He thinks that the “real job” was CAMPAIGNING in 2016, and it was like winning a pageant. He gets to “Be President” for 4 years, just like being Miss Universe, and he gets to do a bunch of ceremonial stuff, and then he gets to be in another pageant.

That’s exactly right.

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piratedan  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:43:25pm

re: #89 JC1

sorry, that’s bullshit, the ACA passed by the slimmest of margins in the house, some of those blue dogs that voted for it and allowed its passage were “made examples of” by targeted GOP campaigns in 2010 when the GOP took back the house. There was no mandate for it to be even more progressive because the blue dog dems were a real thing, comprised of roughly 15% of the Dem caucus at the time.

Everyone speculates how it ‘could have been better”, the fact that it was leaps better over something that never fucking existed to begin with, and was crafted in the middle of a economic crisis/rescue of monumental proportions. What is also forgotten is that it had loads of hearings and input from GOP (which was done in the name of bipartisanship and yet it didn’t get a single fucking GOP vote, the fuckers) and the time that would have been spent trying to re-invent that fucking wheel would have done nothing but feed the GOP narrative because per our national media, only the Dems have agency.

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JC1  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:43:54pm

re: #90 Citizen K

You fail to take into account just how much of the ACA negotiations were as much against the right-most edge of the Dem caucuses as it was against the GOP. 2009 had actual conservative Dems and Blue Dogs that had to be negotiated with (and against in some cases). Remember that the faint supermajority also had to include Joe fucking Lieberman.

I noted that the Senate supermajority included blue dogs. I wonder if enough was done to twist their arms to vote with the party on procedure (closure) and vote their conscience on the final bill. There were over 50 votes for a public option.

I get that it’s 20/20 hind sight, Monday morning QBing, other applicable metaphors, but let’s not pretend that it couldn’t have been better.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:45:50pm

It makes me sad to think about Obama’s early years. I definitely felt an optimism. I didn’t think all the problems that we faced would be magically overturned but I thought Obama would be instrumental in a new kind of politics after the Bush years. I didn’t realize how much the right would target him personally in result to their bitterness over the defeat.

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garzooma  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:46:31pm

re: #21 lawhawk

Here’s what we know about the USPS.

Before DeJoy dismantled the scanners and stopped OT, we were seeing on time mail delivery. We know this from the USPS own metrics.

Since Trump put sabotage of USPS on his agenda, the delivery time metrics have fallen off the cliff, and this affects everyone from those waiting to get their mail order meds to payroll checks and SS checks and bills.

Do you know where we can find the USPS delivery time metrics? This looks very interesting.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:46:34pm

re: #100 JC1

I noted that the Senate supermajority included blue dogs. I wonder if enough was done to twist their arms to vote with the party on procedure (closure) and vote their conscience on the final bill. There were over 50 votes for a public option.

I get that it’s 20/20 hind sight, Monday morning QBing, other applicable metaphors, but let’s not pretend that it couldn’t have been better.

I’m pretty sure Mutual of Omaha and Prudential had a bigger sway at the time. Remember how the party kicked Liberman out and he won as an independent?

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JC1  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:47:18pm

re: #99 piratedan

sorry, that’s bullshit, the ACA passed by the slimmest of margins in the house, some of those blue dogs that voted for it and allowed its passage were “made examples of” by targeted GOP campaigns in 2010 when the GOP took back the house. There was no mandate for it to be even more progressive because the blue dog dems were a real thing, comprised of roughly 15% of the Dem caucus at the time.

Everyone speculates how it ‘could have been better”, the fact that it was leaps better over something that never fucking existed to begin with, and was crafted in the middle of a economic crisis/rescue of monumental proportions. What is also forgotten is that it had loads of hearings and input from GOP (which was done in the name of bipartisanship and yet it didn’t get a single fucking GOP vote, the fuckers) and the time that would have been spent trying to re-invent that fucking wheel would have done nothing but feed the GOP narrative because per our national media, only the Dems have agency.

The house version had a public option…

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gwangung  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:48:55pm

re: #100 JC1

I noted that the Senate supermajority included blue dogs. I wonder if enough was done to twist their arms to vote with the party on procedure (closure) and vote their conscience on the final bill. There were over 50 votes for a public option.

I get that it’s 20/20 hind sight, Monday morning QBing, other applicable metaphors, but let’s not pretend that it couldn’t have been better.

You shouldn’t wonder. You should count votes. By your remarks, you can’t count votes.

50 wasn’t the number…60 was.

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John Hughes  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:50:20pm

re: #527 Jay C

Was Maggie really “strongly pro-EU”?? Maybe it’s just old CW, but I thought that “European” issues were (along with just too much time at No. 10) one of the things that led to her resignation. IIRC, Thatcher was always skeptical of Britain’s tying itself too much to the Continent, and she lost out to the more “integrationist” bloc among the Tories.

Thatcher was “pro-EU” in the sense that she was one of the major forces behind creating it (replacing the EC, that replaced the earlier EEC). The Single European Act would never happened without her.

She was also strongly in favor of the UK remaining in the EEC in the first Brexit referendum in 1975.

As you can see:
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JC1  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:50:35pm

re: #105 gwangung

You shouldn’t wonder. You should count votes. By your remarks, you can’t count votes.

50 wasn’t the number…60 was.

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Did you even read what I wrote?

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:51:03pm

I do like how we’re rehashing 2010. It’s been a while.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:51:58pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:52:45pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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Even so, one can’t help but feel a certain satisfaction at this (click to embiggen picture):

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nines09  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:53:29pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

(over the intercom)

“Antifa. Antifa. Party of 13, your table is ready.”

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:53:50pm

Antifa travel expenses: gas, $23.00, burritos, $9, bandanna, $3.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:55:13pm

Ticket for sleeping in car, $50.

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nines09  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:55:46pm

Glad I caught up with this voice.

Elise LeGrow - Who Do You Love (Live Video)

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:57:42pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Whoa! Wasn’t expecting that particular rat to jump ship.

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nines09  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:58:04pm

re: #113 jaunte

“KOA Campgrounds are now pleased to announce an Antifa Discount! That’s right, show up with 5 Antifa Card Carrying members and receive a 15% discount off of any visit over 3 nights!”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:58:22pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

What happened to Drudge? For the longest time was a rabid right wing rag. When did it turn into Little Green Footballs?

It’s nice that you seem to have become something of a benchmark.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 1, 2020 • 12:59:50pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:00:04pm
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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:01:29pm
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A Cranky One  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:02:07pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

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So send him all the records from WWII.

Malicious compliance.

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gwangung  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:02:28pm

re: #107 JC1

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Did you even read what I wrote?

I most certainly did. But you’re not thinking straight. You named a number that was irrelevant. You needed to get to 60. And it’s stupid to think that people weren’t arm twisting people in their own caucus to do so.

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Interesting Times  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:02:29pm

So “Reince” seems to be trending on twitter. This is why:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:05:10pm

re: #123 Interesting Times

So “Reince” seems to be trending on twitter. This is why:

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Man, Person, Reince, Elephant.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:05:21pm

re: #123 Interesting Times

You are a very proud citizen of right here.

Handy political phrases when you don’t know where you are.

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:05:44pm

I’m not on twitter, but followed a link, and got a notice from them that Safari is no longer supported on twitter. WTF? How can they just write them off? Figuring they will get all Apple people to switch?

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danarchy  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:05:52pm

re: #122 gwangung

I most certainly did. But you’re not thinking straight. You named a number that was irrelevant. You needed to get to 60. And it’s stupid to think that people weren’t arm twisting people in their own caucus to do so.

They need 60 for cloture and then 51 to pass the actual bill. He is saying he wonders if arms couldn’t have been twisted to get cloture and then let them vote the way they want on actual passage.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:07:05pm
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nines09  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:07:28pm

re: #126 retired cynic

You can download Chrome on your iPhone.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:07:31pm
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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:09:04pm

re: #129 nines09

You can download Chrome on your iPhone.

I have Chrome on my computer, but hate it. It’s a memory hog. I will do without twitter. Just don’t see what they have to gain but hacking people off.

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nines09  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:09:28pm

re: #131 retired cynic

Try Opera or Mozilla.
I use Mozilla on my iPhone for LGF

Firefox I use for LGF.

WHERE’S MY CAR?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:10:40pm

Theory: If 9/11 had happened under Trump, he would have launched nukes in response.

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:11:27pm

re: #132 nines09

Try Opera or Mozilla.

Haven’t tried Opera, but don’t like Mozilla either. I’ll do without twitter.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:12:02pm

re: #132 nines09

Try Opera or Mozilla.

My FireFox has been useless for playing twitter embeds for some weeks. I thought it was a bad upgrade, but I’ve learned to live with it.

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gwangung  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:13:06pm

re: #127 danarchy

They need 60 for cloture and then 51 to pass the actual bill. He is saying he wonders if arms couldn’t have been twisted to get cloture and then let them vote the way they want on actual passage.

Yes, but you still needed that 60 for cloture. I’m saying that this is Politics 110, some basic maneuvering that’s obvious and done all the time, and seems a little silly to wonder that if they actually tried such an elementary tactic (particularly with Lieberman who had all the leverage in the world to tell the party to fuck off; Dems had nothing to twist with him).

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:13:18pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

My FireFox has been useless for playing twitter embeds for some weeks. I thought it was a bad upgrade, but I’ve learned to live with it.

The odd thing is, twitter has been working on Safari for me. And it worked today, after I clicked off the warning. Self-defeating purity, IMO.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:13:31pm

re: #124 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Man, Person, Reince, Elephant.

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garzooma  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:14:22pm

re: #131 retired cynic

I have Chrome on my computer, but hate it. It’s a memory hog. I will do without twitter. Just don’t see what they have to gain but hacking people off.

Chrome on my computer was becoming unusable. But other browsers, like FireFox, didn’t work much better. Eventually, I replaced my hard drive with an SSDD, and that’s worked out.

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nines09  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:15:45pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Uninstall. Reinstall.
I’ve found that to be the fix for a lot of glitches.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:16:37pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:20:12pm
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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:21:03pm

Speaking of sleeping in a car,

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:23:33pm

Please vote her out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:23:43pm

re: #143 jaunte

The reunifications weren’t “botched”. These people did EXACTLY what they wanted to do to these kids.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:24:28pm

re: #143 jaunte

Speaking of sleeping in a car,

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We’re never going to know the full extent of this evil.

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Interesting Times  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:24:46pm

re: #123 Interesting Times

Related:

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Citizen K  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:24:54pm

re: #107 JC1

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Did you even read what I wrote?

re: #122 gwangung

I most certainly did. But you’re not thinking straight. You named a number that was irrelevant. You needed to get to 60. And it’s stupid to think that people weren’t arm twisting people in their own caucus to do so.

re: #127 danarchy

They need 60 for cloture and then 51 to pass the actual bill. He is saying he wonders if arms couldn’t have been twisted to get cloture and then let them vote the way they want on actual passage.

But that was the thing: everyone knew at that point that the 60-vote threshold for cloture was the actual battle, while the 50-vote threshold to actually pass the bill was basically academic afterwards if it managed to get there. There weren’t many at that point that were going to vote FOR cloture but AGAINST the bill if it gave any more than we had. It took every bit of maneuvering to get what we got to begin with. I mean, the GOP made amendments that they explicitly made to vote against, just to performatively show how much they refused to budge. And I’m pretty sure the Dem leadership understood this all too well, which is exactly why the last stage of negotiations were almost exclusively with the conservative edge of the Dem caucus.

And don’t forget just how many Dems in Congress ended up running explicitly AGAINST both Obama and the ACA thinking it’d help their political fortunes (it didn’t, which is why the Blue Dog caucus is all but wiped out at this point, regardless of what lefter-than-thou types like to claim). If we could have stemmed the bleeding in 2010 and keep Congress, I have no doubt in my mind that we could have had a go at expanding what we got for the ACA in 2013. But there’s the whole problem of folks believing that presidential elections are the extent of political engagement for voters, and we’re seeing just how problematic that mindset is becoming.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:24:59pm

re: #144 Patricia Kayden

Please vote her out.

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Susan the Pretzel.

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JC1  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:26:02pm

re: #136 gwangung

Yes, but you still needed that 60 for cloture. I’m saying that this is Politics 110, some basic maneuvering that’s obvious and done all the time, and seems a little silly to wonder that if they actually tried such an elementary tactic (particularly with Lieberman who had all the leverage in the world to tell the party to fuck off; Dems had nothing to twist with him).

I wonder if there were 51 votes to nuke the fillibuster. Back in 2008 it may have been a step too far, though now people are talking about it like a necessity if Dems retake the Senate.

I still say that it was a failure of leadership, or the outcome was one that Obama actually wanted.

Obama was far more centrist then the right wing caricature, but also far more centrist than many on the left would like to believe (I voted for him twice, bit I’m not wearing rose colored glasses). Sure he was better than McCain 2008 version and better than Romney.

ACA was Romney care.

Remind me again how many bankers were even prosecuted after 2008? Geitner at the Treasury? Lol

It’s amazing how nothing can be done to get votes unless it’s a bill that transfers huge amounts of money to the .1%

And Obama made the most egregious part of Bush’s tax cuts permanent (long term cap gains rate on dividends). He literally only had to do nothing and the rates would have reverted back. Can’t blame Lieberman for that one.

OK, enough airing of grievances; let’s get Biden elected.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:36:25pm

re: #108 Belafon

I do like how we’re rehashing 2010. It’s been a while.

well, everything we know and love in America was destroyed back then, you know…
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nines09  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:37:39pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:41:50pm

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:42:49pm

Anyone who says Team Biden doesn’t know how to do politics is not paying attention.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:53:51pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:55:30pm

re: #154 makeitstop

Anyone who says Team Biden doesn’t know how to do politics is not paying attention.

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Christmas and Thanksgiving must really blow.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:56:03pm

re: #144 Patricia Kayden

Please vote her out.

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Do you really think she gave any thought to that remark? She’s getting drug by the opposition because she insists upon supporting the man.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:57:10pm

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

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“We know this burned down on Trump’s watch, but Biden is totally responsible! VOTE TRUMP!!!”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:57:16pm

re: #154 makeitstop

Anyone who says Team Biden doesn’t know how to do politics is not paying attention.

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They’ve been underestimated this entire time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2020 • 1:59:47pm

re: #156 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Christmas and Thanksgiving must really blow.

You’d have to pay me a fucking fortune to attend a Trump family Thanksgiving.

A FORTUNE.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:01:17pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

“We know this burned down on Trump’s watch, but Biden is totally responsible! VOTE TRUMP!!!”

Seriously it’s illogical bullshit.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:01:48pm

The Biden team continue to show the sort of subtlety and deviousness that the Bernie campaign would never have been able to come up with on even a good day.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:10:09pm

There is nothing like people throwing a fit about masks, oh so hard to manage, blah blah blah, when this baby copes just fine.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:11:04pm

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

You’d have to pay me a fucking fortune to attend a Trump family Thanksgiving.

A FORTUNE.

The LULZ would be something.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:11:14pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

The Biden team continue to show the sort of subtlety and deviousness that the Bernie campaign would never have been able to come up with on even a good day.

Bernie would just be treating this like a class reductionist race. And Trump’s red baiting would be working and Democrats would have to defend why our nominee honeymooned in the USSR.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:12:32pm
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John Hughes  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:12:45pm

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I gave up on a gay Republican friend who continues to spout easily-refuted GOP talking points.

Maybe if I suck up to them they won’t send me to the death camp first?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:14:12pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:15:28pm

re: #168 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Haha oh those poor Trump cultists. They’ll never know.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:16:08pm
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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:16:30pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

My FireFox has been useless for playing twitter embeds for some weeks. I thought it was a bad upgrade, but I’ve learned to live with it.

Firefox as of late has some odd issues. Probably the most annoying one is on my primary gaming machine that I built about a year ago.
Browse streaming videos — and about 15 minutes in, my system does a warm reboot.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:17:11pm

re: #165 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Bernie would just be treating this like a class reductionist race. And Trump’s red baiting would be working and Democrats would have to defend why our nominee honeymooned in the USSR.

The biggest issue with Bernie is that he’d be mirroring Trump’s play, working on trying to fire up the party’s “progressive” flank than bringing in dissatisfied voters. It would have been far easier for Trump to pin any violence on Bernie, whose staff would have happily embraced such even if Sanders himself denounced it.

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Semper Fi  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:18:23pm

re: #70 SerialUpDinger

Something, not news-related or even Trump-related but involving relationships.
Today, on the 20th anniversary of the death of my birth mother, quite out of the blue, I received a call from a long-lost sister. My last memory of her was from 1964 when she and another sister were removed from the house where we lived and placed into foster care. As the eldest of five children, born to parents who were woefully unprepared to handle their lives — much less five children under the age of six — I lived a life consumed by hunger, dread, and grief by learning to survive without parents to guide and care for us. Shortly thereafter, a sister passed away due to rheumatoid arthritis. The death hit our home quite hard, parents divorced, we (remaining sister and I) were placed into the foster care system. A coupled of months into our stay we were returned to our father — in six weeks time, he found a woman and got married. Our newly redefined family moved into a house together and put a lid on our previous lives and memories. No words were spoken about the two siblings who were taken away and a fading of discussions about the sister who passed. Life went on.

Our birth mother moved away when I was 8, and we never saw her again. Flash forward to 2001 and at my wife’s urging, I looked up my birth mothers’ info on the internet. Her last name was unique enough that she was the only name that popped up during a search of birth records. So weird to see the names of all the siblings in one place. Sadly, she had passed away the previous year. She turned her life around and passed away after having lived a stable family life with her husband and son from her last marriage. A feeling of rejection (she never mentioned the fact that she had five children to her family) was replaced with happiness for her having found some solace in this life.

During this phone call, I found that the two sisters were adopted into a loving family and the path their lives was a much better one. She had waited until her parents were gone before looking for the big brother who picked her up out of the playpen. So odd to be the focus of someone else’s earliest memories. We had a nice talk — emotional sometimes — now look forward to meeting in Covid-19 world.

One more mystery solved!

What a nice surprise. I wish you and your family well.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:18:32pm

re: #170 Ace-o-aces

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That right there is why I’ve always found the Soros freak outs funny as hell.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:24:20pm

re: #170 Ace-o-aces

Wow. That is one batshit crazy “report” from OANN.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:25:52pm

Hmmm

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gwangung  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:27:52pm

re: #176 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Hmmm

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Hmph. Fines are just a cost of doing business.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:29:22pm

This is trolling on a scale I have seldom seen

Trump Crisis

Maybe someone in the Democratic Party has been watching the Lincoln Project.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:30:02pm

re: #177 gwangung

Hmph. Fines are just a cost of doing business.

Fuck fines. I want real, actual and long prison sentences.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:31:59pm
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gwangung  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:32:26pm

re: #179 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck fines. I want real, actual and long prison sentences.

Well, that’s what I meant. I think I used up my quota of “fucks” for today.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:33:38pm

I saw the discussion about the ACA upthread and while most of the major points were already brought up, I wanted to add one: The ACA was constantly presented by Repubs as a “trojan horse” that was going to lead to single-payer unless they did everything could to oppose it. Half the party insisted that the law was designed to fail, which Democrats who then capitalize upon to say that half-measures were insufficient and they needed to implement single-payer. The other half insisted that the law would prove so popular that voters would insist it be expanded until it was single-payer.

And yes, the public option was the most prominent casualty of such, as Repubs portrayed it as a “backdoor” to single-payer which would price plans so low that private insurers would be unable to compete and ultimately would become “mandatory.”

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:40:27pm

!@#$%^&*()_

U.S. says it won’t join WHO-linked effort to develop, distribute coronavirus vaccine, WaPo, long and with receipts for what this could mean.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:42:09pm

… [I]n the many jurisdictions offering early in-person voting for days or weeks prior to Election Day, the need for volunteers is even greater. Public health and elections experts are increasingly urging voters to take advantage of early options to reduce crowding on Election Day, but to make that happen, America needs more poll workers…

We definitely don’t want Trump’s people to be the only ones monitoring early voting.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:44:01pm

The fool doth protest too much, methinks:

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:44:31pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:46:27pm

“HE NEVER HAD A STROKE AND WE DEMAND YOU FIRE ANYBODY WHO SAID HE DID BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!”

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John Hughes  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:48:55pm

re: #183 retired cynic

!@#$%^&*()_

U.S. says it won’t join WHO-linked effort to develop, distribute coronavirus vaccine, WaPo, long and with receipts for what this could mean.

Fuck tat paywalled shit,

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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:48:58pm

re: #178 Kilroy was here

This is trolling on a scale I have seldom seen

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Video

Maybe someone in the Democratic Party has been watching the Lincoln Project.

I haven’t seen a single Trump ad that gets anywhere near what Biden’s people are producing.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:51:13pm

“Why won’t the media talk about how Biden is going senile? Why won’t they demand he come out of his basement? The people need to know!”

“A soon-to-be-published book will allege that Trump may have suffered mini-strokes last winter…”

“TOTAL LIES! HOW DARE THE MEDIA QUESTION MY HEALTH?! THEY HAVE NO RIGHT! I’LL SUE!!!!”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:51:43pm

re: #189 John Hughes

text of article

Fuck tat paywalled shit,

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Axolotl  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:51:45pm

re: #37 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Since his elder male spawn often mimic it, I’d say it’s some sort of weird alpha male stance that they think makes them look like they’re in charge instead of ready to topple over.

“pick’s disease posture”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:51:59pm
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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:52:21pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:52:42pm

re: #189 John Hughes

Fuck tat paywalled shit,

The Trump administration said it will not join a global effort to develop, manufacture and equitably distribute a coronavirus vaccine, in part because the World Health Organization is involved, a decision that could shape the course of the pandemic and the country’s role in health diplomacy.

More than 170 countries are in talks to participate in the Covid-19 Vaccines Global Access (Covax) Facility, which aims to speed vaccine development and secure doses for all countries and distribute them to the most high-risk segment of each population.

The plan, which is co-led by the WHO, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations and Gavi, the vaccine alliance, was of interest to some members of the Trump administration and is backed by traditional U.S. allies, including Japan, Germany and the European Commission, the executive arm of the European Union.

But the United States will not participate, in part because the White House does not want to work with the WHO, which President Trump has criticized over what he characterized as its “China-centric” response to the pandemic.

“The United States will continue to engage our international partners to ensure we defeat this virus, but we will not be constrained by multilateral organizations influenced by the corrupt World Health Organization and China,” said Judd Deere, a spokesman for the White House.

The Covax decision, which has not been previously reported, is effectively a doubling down by the administration on its bet that the United States will win the vaccine race. It eliminates the chance to secure doses from a pool of promising vaccine candidates — a potentially risky strategy.
“America is taking a huge gamble by taking a go-it-alone strategy,” said Lawrence Gostin, a professor of global health law at Georgetown University.

Kendall Hoyt, an assistant professor at Dartmouth’s Geisel School of Medicine, said it was akin to opting out of an insurance policy.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:52:50pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Straight dude here. I don’t find Ivanka attractive in the slightest. She’s got a weird “Stepford Wife” thing going on.

100% agree. Even if I didn’t know she’s a trump - zero attraction. To my eyes, it’s sort of an uncanny valley thing.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:53:01pm

re: #189 John Hughes

Fuck tat paywalled shit,

Somebody’s got to pay David Fahrenthold’s paycheck.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:53:59pm

re: #198 Belafon

Somebody’s got to pay David Fahrenthold’s paycheck.

I thought there covid stuff was free.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:54:27pm
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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:54:32pm

re: #183 retired cynic

Trump continuing to wall the rest of us in, away from the world.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:56:51pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:57:08pm

Considering how much mileage the Trump campaign got out of questioning Hillary’s health in 2016 and how they’ve tried to replicate that with rumor about Biden’s health, the media really should be telling them to fuck off with this “outrage” over questions about Donny’s health.

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John Hughes  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:58:52pm

re: #192 I Would Prefer Not To

7ETewzAmwL3Wn1I+vXp2NgffwwEqcfbwNEJHbg/AxeI4sDQlZEUtnAvtWXLUIepcmEXkwPC8E0767HKjQae7lep87tqJoP4KPV+jVaWt2k/E7Zj5rJYl1g==

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:58:53pm

re: #62 Decatur Deb

I lost face today—about a square centimeter of cheek gouged out by the dermatologist. Baja Alabama is one of the places that claim to be The Skin Cancer Capital of the Country.

For biopsy, or was it already identified as a melanoma?
I lost a little more than a square centimeter on my back, up near my right shoulder. That led to losing a 9cm x 15cm chunk of my back. All the way down. When I got my staples out and managed to rip the healed wound open the next day, it was a fairly unattractive sight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:59:46pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2020 • 2:59:47pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:00:03pm

re: #189 John Hughes

(unpaywalled)
The Trump administration said it will not join a global effort to develop, manufacture and equitably distribute a coronavirus vaccine, in part because the World Health Organization is involved, a decision that could shape the course of the pandemic and the country’s role in health diplomacy.

More than 170 countries are in talks to participate in the Covid-19 Vaccines Global Access (Covax) Facility, which aims to speed vaccine development and secure doses for all countries and distribute them to the most high-risk segment of each population.

The plan, which is co-led by the WHO, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations and Gavi, the vaccine alliance, was of interest to some members of the Trump administration and is backed by traditional U.S. allies, including Japan, Germany and the European Commission, the executive arm of the European Union.

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John Hughes  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:00:17pm

re: #198 Belafon

And it’s not me!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:01:26pm

Three 6.x earthquakes in Chile in the last hour.

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gocart mozart  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:02:10pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:03:30pm

Joe Biden is going to gain a lot of international goodwill when he rejoins the paris climate thingy and agrees to work with WHO (and pay our dues). He can also say NATO is cool and we are keeping troops in Germany and doing exercises with S. Korean forces.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:04:48pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’re pledging to “protect” white women for the same reason they get upset when a business gets burned down: They view them as property and worry that some black man is gonna come along and do something horrible to them.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:07:13pm

Trump’s Health Care Crisis
I can’t get enough of these..
GO Joe!

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:07:41pm

They worry that they might like a black man better because he treats them better.

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Targetpractice  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:07:44pm

re: #212 I Would Prefer Not To

Joe Biden is going to gain a lot of international goodwill when he rejoins the paris climate thingy and agrees to work with WHO (and pay our dues). He can also say NATO is cool and we are keeping troops in Germany and doing exercises with S. Korean forces.

To a chorus of screams from wingnuts that he’s “surrendering” American sovereignty to foreign entities.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:09:38pm

re: #216 Targetpractice

Unlike all the Trumpworld non-declared foreign agents.

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:11:23pm

re: #95 Belafon

Based on the makeup of the Democrats and Republicans in office, yes, it was the biggest thing that could be passed. They had to get one Republican, Collins, just to get it to the point where they could vote to pass it.

Collins didn’t vote for ACA; they had their 60 by then.

Collins was the 60th vote for the recovery act (Franken hadn’t been seated yet).
That was the Feb 2009 stimulus to save the banks and the auto industry and cities that would otherwise have to layoff cops and firefighters, plus some money for renewable energy, etc.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:12:35pm

re: #118 The Pie Overlord!

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Oh looky looky at presstitute Marky Mark Halpern smiling right there in the front!

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:16:04pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Based on a lot of FB activity I monitor from old school acquaintances, a lot of middle aged and older white women are so indoctrinated in White Entitlement and embittered with their lot in life that they wish for the romanticized version of patriarchy brought to the screen by such classics as Gone With the Wind and other such revisionist trash. Trump and his merry band of racist trash represent their best hope of either pulling them out of their despair or heaping their misery upon everyone else.

They are evil and they are part of the 35%.

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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:17:59pm

re: #197 Jebediah, RBG

100% agree. Even if I didn’t know she’s a trump - zero attraction. To my eyes, it’s sort of an uncanny valley thing.

Hey, she paid good money to look that fake!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:19:16pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:20:05pm

re: #197 Jebediah, RBG

100% agree. Even if I didn’t know she’s a trump - zero attraction. To my eyes, it’s sort of an uncanny valley thing.

I was thinking “uncanny valley” literally a fraction of a second before I read your response. GMTA, and so do we, apparently.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:33:26pm

re: #123 Interesting Times

So “Reince” seems to be trending on twitter. This is why:

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Reince and repeat.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:41:09pm

re: #212 I Would Prefer Not To

Joe Biden is going to gain a lot of international goodwill when he rejoins the paris climate thingy and agrees to work with WHO (and pay our dues). He can also say NATO is cool and we are keeping troops in Germany and doing exercises with S. Korean forces.

He really is. It’s going to be nice to have a President who is respected again.

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:54:33pm

re: #212 I Would Prefer Not To

Joe Biden is going to gain a lot of international goodwill when he rejoins the paris climate thingy and agrees to work with WHO (and pay our dues). He can also say NATO is cool and we are keeping troops in Germany and doing exercises with S. Korean forces.

He’ll get a Nobel Prize for the achievement of being not!Trump.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2020 • 3:57:38pm

re: #205 Jebediah, RBG

For biopsy, or was it already identified as a melanoma?
I lost a little more than a square centimeter on my back, up near my right shoulder. That led to losing a 9cm x 15cm chunk of my back. All the way down. When I got my staples out and managed to rip the healed wound open the next day, it was a fairly unattractive sight.

Confirmed. It was a squamous cell baddie. This is the second time my doc cured me of cancer. He plays a mean klezmer clarinet for a goy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 1, 2020 • 4:28:52pm

re: #149 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Susan the Pretzel.

Would “Pretzels of Concern” work as a band name?


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