Amazing New Track From Dirty Loops: “Breakdown”

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Jonah Nilsson’s vocal range is absolutely mind-blowing in this one. Dirty Loops keeps making pop songs that redefine the genre.

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Drums by Aron Mellergård
Bass by Henrik Linder
Vocal/Keys by Jonah Nilsson
Additional Horns by Patrik Eriksson, Olle Hedström Berg, Mattias Lejdal, and Mats Hermansson

Mixed/Mastered by Simon Petrén
Filmed by Miki Anagrius

Management:
Quincy Jones Productions
Adam Fell / Armando Abate
info@quincyjones.com

Booking Agent:
Artist Group International
Michael Arfin
mike.arfin@artistgrp.com

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218 comments
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:35:43am
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:39:07am

Hmmmm wondering what would happen if The Two Stooges won their elections and were indicted for insider trading by Joe’s justice department????

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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:41:22am

re: #2 🌹UOJB!

Then we get to go through the entire mess with Kemp appointing their replacements. He chose Loeffler, hand picked her himself, the fact that he could do worse than her is terrifying.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:41:35am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wonder if the team of SEC investigators looking into Loeffler’s insider-trading activities “suddenly” found themselves reassigned, or downsized in one of those “internal reorganizations” the Trump Administration seems so fond of….

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:42:00am

re: #3 A Mom Anon

Then we get to go through the entire mess with Kemp appointing their replacements. He chose Loeffler, hand picked her himself, the fact that he could do worse than her is terrifying.

Yes…Collins…Jody Hice…or Little Miss QAnon…

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:45:13am
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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:45:53am
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:50:39am

re: #6 jaunte

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Nothing new about that. I remember back in the 60s the Birch Church in town called Rev. King a Communist and the Pulpit Pimp of the Christian & Missionary Alliance Church said that the Civil Rights movement was controlled by Moscow. The Pimp endorsed George Wallace running against LBJ in the 1964 Pennsylvania Democratic Primary and he almost got elected as a convention delegate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:53:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:55:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:58:10am
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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:58:14am

Great tune. Those guys continue to amaze. It’s no wonder Quincy Jones is so big on them.

Also - if you didn’t read the credits at the end of the tune, go back and check them out, they’re pretty funny.

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austin_blue  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:02:30am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

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They are all on vacation. Odd timing for a shout-out, isn’t it?

I guess he expects them to do something in early December. What could it *possibly* be?

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:04:39am
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Jay C  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:06:29am

re: #14 BigPapa

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Bread Zeppelin
The Bagels
The Rolling Scones

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:08:06am
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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:08:33am

re: #15 Jay C

Boston Cream Pie

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:10:04am

Buns ‘n Roses

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:11:30am

Trump-appointed saboteurs continue their work of tearing up our alliances.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:11:38am
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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:11:51am

re: #17 i(m)p(each)sos

Chicago Deep-Dish Pizza
New Riders of the Purple Corn Chips

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:13:32am
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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:15:34am

re: #19 jaunte

Trump-appointed saboteurs continue their work of tearing up our alliances.

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I hope whoever is in charge of that in a Biden administration reverses that January 21st!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:17:42am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:18:46am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Such a pleasure to hear someone who knows what they are talking about. Go Joe.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:18:46am
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:18:48am

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If they name the cat “Recount” Republicans will throw a massive fit!

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:20:18am

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

And a kitty too. That is good news for cat lovers.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:21:52am
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Sherlock Hound  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:22:03am

re: #21 i(m)p(each)sos

Deep Purple Corn Chips

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:22:55am
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:26:32am

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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:27:52am

re: #30 Sherlock Hound

Judas Feast
Corn
Allman Brothers Bakery

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:28:41am

Snarky Hushpuppy

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steve_davis  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:30:55am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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that’s because cats are evil emanations. however, i still love ‘em.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:31:14am

Zac Hot Brown Band

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:40:24am

Pumpernickelback

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:41:14am

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:41:40am
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sagehen  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:42:13am

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How do Major and Champ feel about that?

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:45:31am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:52:25am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:54:37am

re: #42 Eclectic Cyborg

DT never heard of PBS? Boy is he missing out. On second thought he would not appreciate it.

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:00:00pm

The Cranberries

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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:06:00pm

Badladyfinger

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:07:06pm

The Hash

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:07:07pm

Pulled BJÖRK.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:08:37pm

re: #42 Eclectic Cyborg

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He can wait a couple of months til Trump TV starts up from Studio-a-Lago: so anybody who really wants to wallow in bulkshit 24/7/365 can do so: and Donnie can stock up on a video archive so he can wallow right along with them….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:12:05pm

re: #47 GlutenFreeJesus

Pulled BJÖRK.

Best one so far.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:13:06pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Very fowl punning…..
🐔🐥🦆

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:13:16pm

The Grillers.

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:13:43pm

The Rolling Stonefruits

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:14:06pm

He’s really not well.

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:14:14pm

USDA Primus

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:16:47pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

Several judges in PA have said DT and his so-called team have no evidence and therefore no case.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:17:26pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s really not well.

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He’s really a giant fucking liar. Saying he’s not well gives him an out. He’s a lying, selfish, loser asshole. Full stop.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:18:50pm

One of my other loves is poetry. I am currently reading a delightful translation of the classic Chinese compilation Poems of the Masters.

Two by a relative unknown:

“Looking for a recluse without success”

Below the pines I ask the boy
He says his master has gone to find herbs
He’s somewhere on this mountain
But the clouds are too thick to know where

“The Swordsman”

For 10 years I have been polishing this sword
It’s frosty edge has never been put to the test
Now I am holding it and showing it to you, sir,
Is there anyone suffering from injustice?
—Chia Tao 779-843

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:20:21pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:24:32pm

re: #56 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Okay he’s a not well, giant, selfish asshole. 👍🏼

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:26:12pm

re: #14 BigPapa

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Bruce Stringbean

(A friend in high school had a springsteen pin on his jacket. I looked at it one day and said “ha! bruce stringbean!” Louie thought I was making a weird dumb joke until I made him look closer at his pin. It was a picture of Springsteen, and it did indeed say “Bruce Stringbean” and he had never noticed. I wonder what Louie has been up to the last hrmphharrumph decades…)

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:27:20pm

re: #15 Jay C

Bread Zeppelin
The Bagels
The Rolling Scones

Stiff Little Ladyfingers
Bun Volt
Meat Puppets

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:27:34pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

“This is not a fraud case” - RG

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:28:10pm

And the kind of thing Putin would approve of.

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:32:15pm

Static Xtra Cheese

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:33:50pm

Beer Naked Ladies

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:34:18pm

re: #61 Jebediah, RBG

Stiff Little Ladyfingers

Scorpions.

What?

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:35:28pm

I was going to say that Dirty Loops is an immense talent by all measures: technical mastery, musicianship, writing.

But instead:

Dirty Fruit Loops

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:36:14pm

re: #2 🌹UOJB!

Hmmmm wondering what would happen if The Two Stooges won their elections and were indicted for insider trading by Joe’s justice department????

I was just reading up on the current GOP self-immolation in GA. I don’t want to get my hopes up, but honest to God, these idiots may have just shot themselves in the feet. We may have a blue Senate majority after all.

I fell like I should have seen the whole “If you say Biden’s win was rigged and you won’t overturn it, why should we even vote?” vortex coming, but again; I’m ascribing way too much investment in reality than I should to a lot of conservative voting base

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calochortus  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:36:20pm

re: #60 Jebediah, RBG

Bruce Stringbean

(A friend in high school had a springsteen pin on his jacket. I looked at it one day and said “ha! bruce stringbean!” Louie thought I was making a weird dumb joke until I made him look closer at his pin. It was a picture of Springsteen, and it did indeed say “Bruce Stringbean” and he had never noticed. I wonder what Louie has been up to the last hrmphharrumph decades…)

The Muppets are on it. Bruce Stringbean

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calochortus  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:41:22pm

Also, this is the longest weekend in the history of the world.
(Except for a few years ago when we didn’t have Thanksgiving until the following weekend because of a family member’s schedule. That one was equally long.)
I never go out shopping Thanksgiving weekend because I’m not crazy about crowds and this weekend it’s only more so. So, if you don’t spend the Thursday cooking and eating with family, and Friday happily recovering, then, by Sat. it’s time for the world to start moving again in earnest, but the weekend is just beginning.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:43:46pm

re: #41 William Lewis

More winners!
I am starting to think you have a good eye for composition…

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:44:06pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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Hey, quick question if you’re still here:

I cannot get this site to run on Safari on my iPad. iPhone, fine. iMac, fine.

I keep getting the “A problem repeatedly occurred…” error. It’s happening to a handful of other sites in addition to yours. This seems to be an ongoing issue with iOS Safari. In fact, pages that claim to have the fix will often crash as well.

I’ve tried:

• Emptying cache and history
• Turning off Safari’s Smart Suggestion, or whatever it’s called
• Using both mobile and desktop versions of the site
• Turning off Javascript

Nothing seems to help. If I restart the iPad, the problem goes away for a little bit, but eventually comes back. I’m running iPadOS 14.1, I think.

Do you or anyone else here run into this or have any suggestions, other than switching to Chrome?

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:45:17pm

re: #72 Mattand

Works for me. Don’t try to do any reading on the iPhone. Just too small! Old eyes!

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BigPapa  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:45:35pm

The thing about Dirty Loops is they are no doubt contemporary pop but there is so much going layered in it’s foundation. They could Jazz or Prog melt you face effortlessly. But I also hear nuances of old skool R&B in there. Reminds me of my kiddo summers in Suburban Whitesville, listening to black R&B radio, hearing ‘Rock the Boat’ as I kept diving into the pool and Mom yelling at me to not dive in the pool. I hear that in DL.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:45:42pm
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Mattand  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:46:39pm

re: #73 retired cynic

Works for me. Don’t try to do any reading on the iPhone. Just too small! Old eyes!

I’ll probably switch to Chrome for the iPad. I have to take off my glasses, but I can still read it on Safari iPhone.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:46:40pm

The Tubers

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:47:05pm

re: #66 Nyet

Scorpions.

What?

Just cause they are nasty doesn’t mean they can’t be food!

EDIT: The scary little arachnids are kinda nasty too

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steve_davis  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:49:18pm

Steelhead trout being martyred for the cause.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:50:46pm

re: #71 Jebediah, RBG

More winners!
I am starting to think you have a good eye for composition…

Thank you.

I keep hoping that we’ll get another stimulus yet. If we do I want to get an Epson SureColor P900 17-Inch Photo Printer and a mounting set up so that I can start selling prints to the tourists.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:50:52pm

re: #69 calochortus

The Muppets are on it. Bruce Stringbean

Cool! I didn’t know about that

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:51:24pm

re: #75 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:51:50pm

Elvis Parsley

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:53:10pm

re: #75 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What keeps going through my mind with the constant “Throw out the election because the only way Trump could have lost is by cheating” is that if Trump and his clown car were the slightest bit competent, there’s a good chance they’d have pulled the whole fucking coup off.

What keeps me up at night is that McConnell and other non-insane Republicans are dissecting this whole mess to make sure they don’t make the same mistakes next time.

It’s been said by smarter people than me already, but Republicans, both voter and politician, got a tase of fascism and decided they want more of it. A lot more. And they have a roadmap now on how to get there.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:53:50pm

re: #80 William Lewis

TBH I had started thinking that some time ago.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:54:15pm

re: #68 Mattand

I was just reading up on the current GOP self-immolation in GA. I don’t want to get my hopes up, but honest to God, these idiots may have just shot themselves in the feet. We may have a blue Senate majority after all.

I fell like I should have seen the whole “If you say Biden’s win was rigged and you won’t overturn it, why should we even vote?” vortex coming, but again; I’m ascribing way too much investment in reality than I should to a lot of conservative voting base

We need to work on the runoff election as if we knew this to be a repug plot to make complacent dems stay home. But it is fun to watch it unfold, I admit.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:55:22pm
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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:57:01pm

re: #83 IngisKahn

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Video

It’s quite well done but I still can’t stand colorization. I would far rather see the same work done with the result left in the original black & white.

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:57:41pm

re: #89 William Lewis

It’s quite well done but I still can’t stand colorization. I would far rather see the same work done with the result left in the original black & white.

I believe that is original color. Started in 1906.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:57:55pm

re: #85 Mattand

What keeps going through my mind with the constant “Throw out the election because the only way Trump could have lost is by cheating” is that if Trump and his clown car were the slightest bit competent, there’s a good chance they’d have pulled the whole fucking coup off.

What keeps me up at night is that McConnell and other non-insane Republicans are dissecting this whole mess to make sure they don’t make the same mistakes next time.

It’s been said by smarter people than me already, but Republicans, both voter and politician, got a tase of fascism and decided they want more of it. A lot more. And they have a roadmap now on how to get there.

This right here is why there MUST be consequences. Big time consequences; jail time, massive fines, etc.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:58:54pm

re: #90 retired cynic

I believe that is original color. Started in 1906.

Says “Cleaned, Colorized, Upscaled, 60 fps” at the start of the clip.

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:59:16pm

re: #92 William Lewis

sorry

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2020 • 12:59:52pm

re: #93 retired cynic

BabelColour has been posting original color films starting in 1906, with a similar look.

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nines09  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:03:43pm

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:05:44pm

re: #72 Mattand

Hey, quick question if you’re still here:

I cannot get this site to run on Safari on my iPad. iPhone, fine. iMac, fine.

I keep getting the “A problem repeatedly occurred…” error. It’s happening to a handful of other sites in addition to yours. This seems to be an ongoing issue with iOS Safari. In fact, pages that claim to have the fix will often crash as well.

I’ve tried:

• Emptying cache and history
• Turning off Safari’s Smart Suggestion, or whatever it’s called
• Using both mobile and desktop versions of the site
• Turning off Javascript

Nothing seems to help. If I restart the iPad, the problem goes away for a little bit, but eventually comes back. I’m running iPadOS 14.1, I think.

Do you or anyone else here run into this or have any suggestions, other than switching to Chrome?

Sorry, I don’t have an iPad so I’m unable to test this. It seems to be specific to the iPad - my iPhone running the latest iOS has no problem in Safari. Does Chrome have the same issue?

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:06:06pm

re: #93 retired cynic

sorry

No big, just a fyi kind of thing. Lots of hard work there and it needs to be appreciated even if I’m not fond of one aspect.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:07:21pm

re: #88 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Bulltown, Texas, was renamed the “more elegant Bovina” in 1899.
en.wikipedia.org

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:08:52pm

Meanwhile, I’ve got this nice probably 1/2 kilo of inch+ thick sirloin tossed in the air fryer. The rice cooker is doing it’s thing. Just need to find some veggie, canned or frozen, & I’ll have a nice late lunch/early supper.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:09:53pm

re: #19 jaunte

Trump-appointed saboteurs continue their work of tearing up our alliances.

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The willingness of the Trump administration to hang its friends and allies out to dry is a blight on America. It may take decades to for America to recover its reputation.

If ever.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:14:01pm

Yup and yup.

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:14:51pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Sorry, I don’t have an iPad so I’m unable to test this. It seems to be specific to the iPad - my iPhone running the latest iOS has no problem in Safari. Does Chrome have the same issue?

Haven’t tried it yet, but I haven’t seen anyone complaining about this problem regarding Chrome in my research.

Like I said, it’s not just LGF. This happens on other sites as well. It’s been driving me up an effing wall mostly because it’s not happening on my iPhone. You’d think that since both devices’ OSs share the same code base, they’d both be experiencing this.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:15:48pm

Don’t let Trump anywhere near that cat.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:16:15pm

re: #85 Mattand

What keeps going through my mind with the constant “Throw out the election because the only way Trump could have lost is by cheating” is that if Trump and his clown car were the slightest bit competent, there’s a good chance they’d have pulled the whole fucking coup off.

What keeps me up at night is that McConnell and other non-insane Republicans are dissecting this whole mess to make sure they don’t make the same mistakes next time.

It’s been said by smarter people than me already, but Republicans, both voter and politician, got a tase of fascism and decided they want more of it. A lot more. And they have a roadmap now on how to get there.

Yeah, there is a long term arc here that can’t be ignored: they’re testing the system for breaks, using their power to weaken the system, then testing again. McConnell’s been talking about “permanent majority” in Congress for a long time with very little pushback. The idea of sham democracy…where most people’s votes are made not to count, so that the outcomes result in their side winning far more, and having an easier time making their decisions stick…has been in the offing for decades.

If you look at the way conservatives are attempting to game abortion, you can see the same methodology at work.

I’d argue that the fascism has been in the nation all along. The racial theories that informed the South, but also westward expansion and our colonial phase…well, they fit very comfortably into Eco’s ur-fascist criterion. This has been a long time in the offing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:16:30pm

re: #98 jaunte

Bulltown, Texas, was renamed the “more elegant Bovina” in 1899.
en.wikipedia.org

But that’s no Fucking comparison! 😂😂😂😂

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:16:59pm

Different subject:

Some of the stupidest people on the internet hang out on Offerup, formerly Letgo.

I’m literally trying to give away a Bluetooth keyboard for free. Free is in the title and the price $0.

I’ve had two people in a row ask me if it was free.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:18:06pm

re: #106 Mattand

As my late dad used to say, “People read but do not comprehend.”

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:18:08pm

re: #88 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

He’s pronouncing it sooo wrong.

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:18:57pm

re: #107 PhillyPretzel

As my late dad used to say, “People read but do not comprehend.”

Yeah, the jury is out on the reading part with these latest two idiots.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:24:10pm

re: #91 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This right here is why there MUST be consequences. Big time consequences; jail time, massive fines, etc.

You can be sure Republicans are already coming up with battle plans meant to throw huge wrenches into as many future elections as possible raising immediate concern about their validity. What we are witnessing is a test run to see how to actually In real life fuck up our elections. This is full-on Treason against most of the US population in order to build a South Africa-style political system rigged highly in favor of white supremacy.

The next elections will be more or less openly fraudulent purposely to cast doubt on having elections at all. Republicans are already grooming the next authoritarians who will be much less vulgar and repulsive than Trump. We already see a few who skillfully play the memes and subtle symbology of white supremacism all the while denying any involvement with Nazi ideology. This next generation of young Republicans will try their best to fuck up democracy with lies, false information, election tampering, nudge-nudge understood memes, and we must remain vigilant.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:25:06pm

re: #100 Romantic Heretic

The willingness of the Trump administration to hang its friends and allies out to dry is a blight on America. It may take decades to for America to recover its reputation.

If ever.

Bush 41 abandoned the Kurds after the first Gulf War until there was so much pushback that he reconsidered. So leaving allies out to dry seems a GOP thing. But it’s not possible to shame Trump into doing the right thing.

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IngisKahn  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:26:48pm

re: #89 William Lewis

I can’t stand poor colorization, of which this is an example.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:27:51pm
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Mattand  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:28:08pm

Headline at Politico: “Trump’s 2016 transition defined his presidency. Biden’s might, too.”

Well, not to nitpick, but I’d say sitting around with his thumbs up his ass and letting 250,000+ of his fellow Americans drop dead defines Trump’s presidency, but what do I know?

Goddamn, Tiger Beat on the Potomac is spot on.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:28:59pm

re: #110 Florida Panhandler

The next elections will be more or less openly fraudulent purposely to cast doubt on having elections at all. Republicans are already grooming the next authoritarians who will be much less vulgar and repulsive than Trump. We already see a few who skillfully play the memes and subtle symbology of white supremacism all the while denying any involvement with Nazi ideology. This next generation of young Republicans will try their best to fuck up democracy with lies, false information, election tampering, nudge-nudge understood memes, and we must remain vigilant.

You miss the point that to the GOP base, Trump being a vulgar and repulsive idiot was why they liked him so much. They don’t want a smooth talking efficient fascist like O’brien or Reinhard Heydrich they want a loudmouth idiot who makes them feel better about themselves.

Someone smarter than Trump might have not had as many defections, but they also wouldn’t have juiced the base the way that Trump did.

Remember Trump beat a huge field of GOP competitors expressly because he was willing to say it louder and cruder than any of them. They may be able to create a smart fascist, but the primary crowd will vote for a stupid one.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:29:17pm

re: #104 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah, there is a long term arc here that can’t be ignored: they’re testing the system for breaks, using their power to weaken the system, then testing again. McConnell’s been talking about “permanent majority” in Congress for a long time with very little pushback. The idea of sham democracy…where most people’s votes are made not to count, so that the outcomes result in their side winning far more, and having an easier time making their decisions stick…has been in the offing for decades.

If you look at the way conservatives are attempting to game abortion, you can see the same methodology at work.

I’d argue that the fascism has been in the nation all along. The racial theories that informed the South, but also westward expansion and our colonial phase…well, they fit very comfortably into Eco’s ur-fascist criterion. This has been a long time in the offing.

Let’s not forget that Hitler was inspired by America’s racism and Jim Crow laws. We were the model of working evil world wide.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:30:37pm

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s not forget that Hitler was inspired by America’s racism and Jim Crow laws. We were the model of working evil world wide.

I woke up this morning…okay, this slightly before noon…thinking about how Hitler’s vision of Lebensraum was so directly parallel to Manifest Destiny.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:32:30pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Sorry, I don’t have an iPad so I’m unable to test this. It seems to be specific to the iPad - my iPhone running the latest iOS has no problem in Safari. Does Chrome have the same issue?

Charles I had the same problems with multiple sites when I beta tested iOS in my iPad Pro and iPad mini. But I haven’t had problems with your site using Safari on either one of my iPads using the final updates.

Now on my iPhone when there is a very long thread I have to switch to Spy mode. If I don’t I get an error that the page can’t load if it is a very long thread.

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IngisKahn  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:32:37pm

Getting to see inside the rocket sausage factory is cool

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:48:20pm

re: #118 🌹UOJB!

Charles I had the same problems with multiple sites when I beta tested iOS in my iPad Pro and iPad mini. But I haven’t had problems with your site using Safari on either one of my iPads using the final updates.

Now on my iPhone when there is a very long thread I have to switch to Spy mode. If I don’t I get an error that the page can’t load if it is a very long thread.

For me, it’s only on my iPad (FWIW, I seldom use my iPhone for websurfing, I’ve had a lot fewer problems with LGF on it) - sometimes it won’t even load: but mostly it seems to be related to thread length: once it gets over about 100-120 comments, the loading issues start up.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:50:16pm

re: #118 🌹UOJB!

re: #102 Mattand

I usually do not use my iPad for LGF but I too have had problems.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:54:40pm

re: #63 jaunte

It’s a death sentence.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:55:36pm

re: #121 PhillyPretzel

I usually do not use my iPad for LGF but I too have had problems.

When I lurk using my IPhone, LGF does not load successfully under Safari if there are 200+ comments.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:55:46pm

re: #122 Patricia Kayden

I’ll bet it was Anthony Tata.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2020 • 1:58:12pm

re: #124 jaunte

I’m hoping he’ll survive long enough for President Biden to reverse this decision and he can be safely flown to the U.S. He has earned asylum.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:01:38pm

re: #117 The Ghost of a Flea

I woke up this morning…okay, this slightly before noon…thinking about how Hitler’s vision of Lebensraum was so directly parallel to Manifest Destiny.

It would be difficult to find a great power — or even one of the not-so-greats — that didn’t have similar ideas, even if they used different names (China, Japan, the Caliphates, Rome, Russia, England…). And they all had some sort of social order to favor a small group and disenfranchise all the rest. Hitler could have looked almost anywhere to find justifications for his plans.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:01:55pm

re: #120 Jay C

For me, it’s only on my iPad (FWIW, I seldom use my iPhone for websurfing, I’ve had a lot fewer problems with LGF on it) - sometimes it won’t even load: but mostly it seems to be related to thread length: once it gets over about 100-120 comments, the loading issues start up.

Charles mentioned a couple of weeks ago that Twitter has changed their embed code in a way that causes embedded tweets to suck up more memory, thus the longer a comment thread gets the more embedded tweets it has and…

I have an iPhone 11 Pro 256GB and I get the error sometimes but I have only noticed it in the last six weeks or so.

I’ll try spy mode next time but this may not be something Charles is able to fix if the Twitter embed code is the culprit.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:02:37pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:03:06pm

re: #126 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

It would be difficult to find a great power — or even one of the not-so-greats — that didn’t have similar ideas, even if they used different names (China, Japan, the Caliphates, Rome, Russia, England…). And they all had some sort of social order to favor a small group and disenfranchise all the rest. Hitler could have looked almost anywhere to find justifications for his plans.

Because: humans.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:03:40pm

re: #128 Teddy’s Person ✌

Winston is a very good looking cat.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:04:08pm

re: #120 Jay C

For me, it’s only on my iPad (FWIW, I seldom use my iPhone for websurfing, I’ve had a lot fewer problems with LGF on it) - sometimes it won’t even load: but mostly it seems to be related to thread length: once it gets over about 100-120 comments, the loading issues start up.

Now that happens on my iPhone so I switch to Spy mode when I get in that situation.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:06:46pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Some Phone and memory. Same thing on long threads.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:11:23pm

My black cat, Nyx.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:13:04pm

re: #133 Colère Tueur de Lapin

My black cat, Nyx.

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Nice kittie!

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:18:06pm

re: #132 Dave In Austin

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:20:37pm

Gee, I wonder why that asshole would do that. Surely he can get Paula White and The Trump Pulpit Pimp Possee to pray Mr. Covid away from Republican Senators!

McConnell suspends in-person GOP lunches

politico.com

McConnell informed the GOP caucus of the decision Saturday afternoon. Senate Republicans have been holding socially distanced lunches in the Senate Hart building since May. Senate Democrats, meanwhile, have held their weekly caucus lunches over the phone.

Gee #MoscowMitch Where Is Your Faith In Jay-Zuss??????/

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:21:37pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:24:01pm

re: #137 Patricia Kayden

Does he mean to look like a dimwitted serial killer?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:24:27pm
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:25:39pm

re: #137 Patricia Kayden

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I look at that picture and it sure looks a lot like the last time we see Norman Bates in the original Psycho.

Unlike Norman, Benjy would squash the shit out of anything

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:28:33pm

Uday and Qusay, lookin’ mighty fashy in their matching outfits.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:30:35pm
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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:30:48pm

re: #141 makeitstop

What a celebration we’ll have when this family of knock-kneed dimwits is out of the White House.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:31:24pm

re: #139 Patricia Kayden

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We know the next Republican target since Trump crippled the financing of Social Security and Medicare. Lady G and his fellow extortionists are going to move to privatize and kill Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid while the corrupted court kills Obamacare.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:36:33pm

hi

A tale of a health disaster in two stories from the Omaha World-Herald.

Omaha police issue first citations for violations of city’s mask ordinance

Omaha’s mask mandate went into effect in August.

Health care leaders develop plan for Nebraska’s hospitals potentially becoming overwhelmed

The statement emphasized that Nebraska is not at a point in which the plan would need to be activated, although the number of people hospitalized with COVID has more than doubled in a month. As of Thursday, they accounted for about 23% of hospital patients.

The plan is a triage plan. Pete Ricketts is still opposing a mask mandate (or any other mandate really).

Like everything else, death panels were Republican projection.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:38:19pm

Those with the best chances would get the highest priority for care. All patients would get basic care and supportive counseling.

The plan, which was based on a Massachusetts model, specifically bars the use of other factors, including a person’s disability, in deciding who gets care.

Factors to be ignored include “race, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, ethnicity, ability to pay, socioeconomic status, English language proficiency, perceived social worth, perceived quality of life, immigration status, incarceration status, homelessness or past or post-emergency user of resources.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:43:16pm

The governor explicitly says he will not back or support any such plans, claiming he does not have the power to do so.

Hospitals and public health districts claim state support for a triage plan is necessary because:

a) a universal statewide plan would hold everyone to the same standard
b) it would prevent lawsuits when hospitals have to set up overflow beds in classrooms or parking lots.

The Republican Genocide continues in my state.

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Danack  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:46:14pm

This is probably going to spill over, and get people who are not insane killed, but for now it’s amusing:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:47:58pm

re: #148 Danack

This is probably going to spill over, and get people who are not insane killed, but for now it’s amusing:

That may be, but it would appear that they want to turn their violence against Republicans fascists.

I would struggle to have any sympathy for that.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:51:20pm

I listened to season one, but got tired of it because it was less about hard truths and more about trying to send an inspirational message that there are good and decent people in government. That’s ok, I guess. And I like Chuck Rosenberg. But I sincerely doubt this will be anything more than a review of Mueller’s service with a short sidebar about the investigation. I hope I’m wrong, but I probably won’t know because I doubt I’ll listen.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:52:00pm

re: #128 Teddy’s Person

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What a beauty!

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John Hughes  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:54:52pm

re: #126 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Hitler could have looked almost anywhere to find justifications for his plans.

But he didn’t.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:55:25pm

re: #143 jaunte

What a celebration we’ll have when this family of knock-kneed dimwits is out of the White House.

And another one on their day of sentencing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:59:31pm
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fern01  Nov 28, 2020 • 2:59:50pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

One of the replies to that tweet has past Presidents Carter, Clinton, Obama & Bush Jnr together laughing - it is a joy to know that trump will never be part of the group - he has earned the disgust of history, before he even leaves the office.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:00:10pm

re: #148 Danack

This is probably going to spill over, and get people who are not insane killed, but for now it’s amusing:

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Trump, Ronna and their fellow liars need to be held accountable for the violence they and their fellow traitors are whipping up.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:00:56pm

re: #156 🌹UOJB!

Trump, Ronna and their fellow liars need to be held accountable for the violence they and their fellow traitors are whipping up.

It sounds like they’re going to be held accountable by their own supporters.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:01:06pm

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Youth hockey leagues have been a significant source of spread in northern New England.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:01:56pm
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Renaissance_Man  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:04:07pm

re: #159 jaunte

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No sympathy. You knew the sort of person you were following. There are no excuses.

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nines09  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:04:14pm
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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:06:34pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:09:32pm

re: #158 Barefoot Grin

Youth hockey leagues have been a significant source of spread in northern New England.

Hockey is considered one of the worst indoor sports for Covid transmission.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:11:53pm

Update on my dear friend

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:12:54pm

re: #164 🌹UOJB!

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plansbandc  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:14:17pm

re: #164 🌹UOJB!

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:14:30pm

re: #159 jaunte

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Case study of the massive brainwashing done by the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine. He will never leave the party even if they carry out threats to persecute and kill his family.

It’s the mindset of a typical Soviet Communist.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:14:48pm

One of the ranchers on the wrong end of this federal lawsuit is from around here (Llewellyn).

A federal lawsuit seeking more than $500,000 in damages has been filed against the owners and operators of a Sandhills ranch who have been accused of letting cattle starve rather than graze them.

According to records in the U.S. District Court-District of Nebraska, Three Forks Ranch, which operates a lodge and working cattle ranch about 40 miles north of Steamboat Springs, Colorado, on the Colorado-Wyoming border, has sued Derek Schwanebeck and Lesa Schwanebeck, who reside in Ellsworth, Nebraska, and John C. Odom, of Lewellen. The Schwanebecks run a grazing business, Cornerstone Grazing in the Sandhills region, and Odom is the business’ only employee.

In April 2020, according to the suit, Three Forks Ranch and the Schwanebecks entered into a contract, with the Schwanebecks agreeing to graze 603 bred cows and 22 bulls during the summer 2020 grazing season. The contract was slated to end on Nov. 12, at which time Three Forks intended to sell the bred cows to a third party.

The Schwanebecks use a grazing technique called “intensive rotational grazing,” according to the lawsuit, where livestock are rotated between pastures so only a single, defined area is grazed at a time. The lawsuit claims that intensive rotational grazing requires more management and supervision than traditional grazing as overgrazing can quickly occur if a rancher fails to timely rotate the livestock.

“Overgrazing leads to barren pastures, which can lead to starvation if supplemental food (e.g., hay) is not available.”

Three Forks says in its lawsuit that cattle were delivered in April 2020 and were in excellent condition. The bred cows began birthing their calves a few weeks later. In July 2020, several Three Forks employees traveled to the Schwanebecks pastures to inspect, vaccinate and brand the baby calves. They branded about 575 calves, all described as being vibrant and healthy. At the time, pastures were described as being in good shape with adequate forage.

From June to August, the suit says, Derek Schwanebeck assured Three Forks personnel that its cattle were doing well. However, on Sept. 2, Derek Schwanebeck contacted the Three Forks head of cattle operation and told him several calves were dead and blamed a “disease outbreak.” Personnel immediately traveled to Nebraska, where they allege they observed over 20 dead calves in the pasture that the cows were crazing. They doctored 46 calves with antibiotics, but quickly realized that the cattle were “extremely malnourished, having been deprived of nearly all food.”

(more)

Eighty-seven calves and twelve cows died of starvation.

Lawsuit alleges animal neglect by Sandhills ranch (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:14:56pm

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

Hockey is considered one of the worst indoor sports for Covid transmission.

I wonder if the temperatures on ice prevent the virus from either rising or more quickly dispersing or both.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:15:39pm

re: #164 🌹UOJB!

Update on my dear friend

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:18:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:18:22pm

re: #40 sagehen

How do Major and Champ feel about that?

they’re good bois

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:18:59pm

re: #148 Danack

This is probably going to spill over, and get people who are not insane killed, but for now it’s amusing:

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What’s amazing is the MAGAts in the audience are calling Kemp corrupt because he didn’t fight to nullify legally cast votes, probably over half being from Black people.

That is is their definition of “corrupt”. Let that sink in for a moment or two.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:19:16pm

re: #169 Barefoot Grin

I wonder if the temperatures on ice prevent the virus from either rising or more quickly dispersing or both.

Very early in the spread, when we were groping around for any understanding of the bug, someone showed it liked lower temperature regimes. Not a good sign as we go into winter.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:19:44pm

re: #171 Barefoot Grin

Sleeping in Seattle.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:19:55pm

So Wikipedia has a whole article on the Bowling Green Massacre and I find that very amusing.

en.wikipedia.org

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:20:00pm

re: #164 🌹UOJB!

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Mattand  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:20:04pm

re: #164 🌹UOJB!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:20:47pm

re: #173 Mattand

What’s amazing is the MAGAts in the audience are calling Kemp corrupt because he didn’t fight to nullify legally cast votes, probably over half being from Black people.

That is is their definition of “corrupt”. Let that sink in for a moment or two.

That was kind of the point of Jim Crow and the Southern Strategy.

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:21:51pm

re: #164 🌹UOJB!

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:22:42pm

Sacramento Gathering of Conspiracy Theory Anti-Mask-Vax Proudboy Cultists

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:23:58pm

I know someone is crunching the numbers but I worry there are enough anti-vax assholes to impact the effectiveness of vaccines once they start being distributed.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:24:09pm

Evening Lizardim. I survived my trip (so far). How go things among the lizardfolk?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:29:26pm

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

I know someone is crunching the numbers but I worry there are enough anti-vax assholes to impact the effectiveness of vaccines once they start being distributed.

For a while. At that point, mortality should shift more strongly in favor of sane people and their families.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:30:16pm

re: #181 jaunte

Sacramento Gathering of Conspiracy Theory Anti-Mask-Vax Proudboy Cultists

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I’m tired of days being only 24 hours long.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:30:28pm

re: #184 Decatur Deb

For a while. At that point, mortality should shift more strongly in favor of sane people and their families.

I wonder what health insurance companies will have to say once the figures start coming out. They tend to look poorly on people who willingly indulge in risky behavior, including, for example, refusing to take a vaccine for a highly contagious and potentially deadly disease.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:31:23pm

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

I know someone is crunching the numbers but I worry there are enough anti-vax assholes to impact the effectiveness of vaccines once they start being distributed.

The anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers are still out in force blocking the street where Mayor Garcetti resides. Hard core Republicans pushing for Garcetti and Newsom’s recalls.

May they all be denied care when they get sick. Every last one of those ignorant assholes.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:31:26pm

re: #15 Jay C

Bread Zeppelin
The Bagels
The Rolling Scones

Momma’s and the Pita’s

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:32:23pm

re: #187 🌹UOJB!

The anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers are still out in force blocking the street where Mayor Garcetti resides. Hard core Republicans pushing for Garcetti and Newsom’s recalls.

May they all be denied care when they get sick. Every last one of those ignorant assholes.

All up US-24 in central Illinois were signs saying, “PRITZKER SUCKS”. (Usually paired with Trump-Pence 2020 “KEEP AMERICA GREAT” signs… I don’t imagine that to be a coincidence). I wanted to rip down every goddamn one of them, but there were… several.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:33:41pm

re: #186 thedopefishlives

I wonder what health insurance companies will have to say once the figures start coming out. They tend to look poorly on people who willingly indulge in risky behavior, including, for example, refusing to take a vaccine for a highly contagious and potentially deadly disease.

Stupidity is a pre-existing condition.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:34:42pm
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:34:54pm

Just as the corrupted court let states block Medicaid expansion they sent a green light to churches to kill more of what they consider the “excess population”.

The corrupted court won’t stop there. They will force their radical Catholic views on everyone. Just watch what happens to those Pulpit Pimp Preachers when the Court turns on them. It’s going to happen.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:40:47pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:41:59pm

re: #193 jaunte

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Did I or did I not say that the timeliness would be the key issue that killed this lawsuit? You can’t have your cake and eat it too; if you’re going to challenge a law, you need to do it right away, not after you have benefited from it and now your opponents are about to.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:44:36pm

I think elitist means the same thing as most adjectives they use for Democrats, “they like something I don’t like.”

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:45:12pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:47:00pm

re: #196 jaunte

” their complete failure to act with due diligence”

A nice way of saying: “You stupid assholes have no idea what you’re doing.”

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:47:07pm

re: #187 🌹UOJB!

It must be great to live in a state like California where Republicans have little power or influence. There’s no way Republicans will successfully recall the Governor.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:48:00pm

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

” their complete failure to act with due diligence”

A good description of the whole party.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:48:36pm

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

” their complete failure to act with due diligence”

A nice way of saying: “You stupid assholes have no idea what you’re doing.”

Not really very nice. In legal-speak, these clowns just got taken out behind the woodshed. Like, that was severe, as severe as any opinion I’ve ever read issued against one of these lawsuits - including the Rudy Giuliani clown show that had such celebrated gems of judgely smackdown.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:51:19pm

So what does that make the Trump Kraken’s legal record, now? 2 for 39?

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:51:40pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:51:51pm

re: #201 Jay C

Something along those lines.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:52:29pm

re: #201 Jay C

So what does that make the Trump Kraken’s legal record, now? 2 for 39?

If the PA Commonwealth Court’s allowing for the preliminary injunction counts, it would be 3 for 39, I think. Not sure how to count that one as it wasn’t a complete victory, but none of them really have been.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:53:34pm

One good thing about these lawsuits is that we are getting to see some fine examples of our judiciary finding just the right legal ways to say, “Go fuck yourselves.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:54:30pm

2 of 39 is equal to a 97% failure rate.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:55:34pm

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

So you’re saying there’s a chance?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:56:56pm

re: #188 Eventual Carrion

Momma’s and the Pita’s

Bread

Wait, why are we doing this?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:57:19pm

re: #208 Barefoot Grin

Bread

Wait, why are we doing this?

Post-Thanksgiving food hangover?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:58:51pm

re: #209 thedopefishlives

Post-Thanksgiving food hangover?

There’s dough in it for somebody.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2020 • 3:59:20pm

re: #209 thedopefishlives

Post-Thanksgiving food hangover?

Baguettes, I’ve had a few, but then again….

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2020 • 4:11:55pm

re: #164 🌹UOJB!

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2020 • 4:15:30pm

re: #195 Dread Pirate Ron

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I think elitist means the same thing as most adjectives they use for Democrats, “they like something I don’t like.”

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

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stpaulbear  Nov 28, 2020 • 4:34:07pm

re: #139 Patricia Kayden

Benny James
@MCumberbark
I just ‘love’ how they adjust their values to maximize political power at any given moment. I may not always agree with Democrat’s agenda but they hold true to their platform every time.

I made a screen capture of this tweet a few years ago. It’s always true.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2020 • 4:42:47pm

re: #195 Dread Pirate Ron

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I think elitist means the same thing as most adjectives they use for Democrats, “they like something I don’t like.”

I think Republicans are going to run into a problem with Biden, and I hope Democrats are ready to take advantage of it. He’s a straight spoken white man with the kind of background that other whites can find common cause with. But he can show those same whites that diversity is a strength not a weakness. I’ve said it before, but I hope he does a number of press conferences where he challenges the reporters to question him better and answers the real questions straight.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 28, 2020 • 5:19:15pm

re: #195 Dread Pirate Ron

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I think elitist means the same thing as most adjectives they use for Democrats, “they like something I don’t like.”

When it is all boiled down, “Elitist” in modern Conservative nomenclature is associated with anyone taking stock in accredited, peer-reviewed science. And that’s about it.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 28, 2020 • 5:36:02pm

re: #198 Patricia Kayden

It must be great to live in a state like California where Republicans have little power or influence. There’s no way Republicans will successfully recall the Governor.

Pete Wilson destroyed the GOP in California. With the exception of Ah-Nold (the WORST Governor I experienced) Republicans can’t come close to winning a major statewide election. Wilson totally alienated Hispanics and Asian-American voters with his 1994 campaign to cut off all aid to illegal aliens. Thanks to Pete Wilson the GOP shriveled up to the point it’s now the 3rd Party in California behind “Decline To State”.

Note how the GOP learned that lesson and played the anti-Communist and Macho Man cards to increase their share of Latino vote this time. It still only got them in the teens…a far cry from Dumbya’s 43% in 2004…

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PrairieQueen  Nov 28, 2020 • 5:42:06pm

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fundies practice a little thing called Dominionism, and one of its most fucked expressions is its treatment of animals. Most ranchers are fundies.

Had this guy not been out money for cattle, the long-suffering cattle themselves were not important. This isn’t about animal abuse, it’s about monetary losses. It’s a business deal gone south.

They fight tooth and nail to treat their animals shitty behind closed doors. Look up ag-gag lawsuits. Uh huh.


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