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Jackson Browne: “Walls and Doors” (Digital Collaboration With Reeperbahn Festival 2020)

MusicJanuary 2021 • Views: 15,754

US-Singer-Songwriter-Legende Jackson Browne performt exklusiv den Song „Walls and Doors“.

Greg Leisz: Gitarre
Jackson Browne: Piano/Gesang

Dieser Auftritt entstand im Rahmen einer digitalen Zusammenarbeit mit dem Reeperbahn Festival 2020.

Lyrics:

Ever since the world’s existed
There’s one thing that is certain
There are those who build walls
And those who open doors
Ah but this my love I’m thinking you already knew

For some it’s always winter
While others have the spring
Some people find good fortune
While others never find a thing
Ah but this my love is something you already knew

That’s how it’s always been
And I know you know it
There can be freedom only when nobody owns it
I’m going to say that again
Because I know you know it
There can be freedom only when nobody owns it

Of what use is the moon if you don’t have the night?
Of what use is a windmill with no Quixote left who’ll fight?
Ah but this my love is something you already knew
At some point on the horizon
Sky can be confused with earth
Some people dream of God
While others dream of wealth
But of course my love this is what you see out on the street

It’s how it’s always been
And I know you know it
There can be freedom only when nobody owns it
Let me say that again
Because I know that we both know it
There can be freedom only when nobody owns it
When nobody owns it
When nobody owns it
When nobody owns it
When nobody owns it

Ever since the world’s existed
There’s one thing that is certain
Some people build walls
Others open doors

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223 comments

🌹UOJB! Jan 3, 2021 • 2:39:16pm

The Supreme Court held in Trump v. Vance that a sitting president is subject to criminal process. This means that if he committed a crime in Georgia, such as criminal solicitation of election fraud, he can be arrested and charged when he enters Georgia.https://t.co/UfofLZTVDd

— Richard W. Painter (@RWPUSA) January 3, 2021

PrairieQueen Jan 3, 2021 • 2:40:28pm

But would Jackson Browne call Trump a motherfucker? I bet he would. It needs to done. Daily. Hourly. Out loud. Because he is.

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 2:40:39pm

Raffensperger: I assure you, there was no election fraud

Trump: Then commit some

— Chris B (@cjburnham) January 3, 2021

BigPapa Jan 3, 2021 • 2:41:57pm

Kileaea crater is a little steamy but no lava sighted. It’s down the though.

Kilauea

jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 2:46:14pm

Imagine how many ambitious GOP officials took one of those calls from Trump and did whatever he asked, no matter how illegal, replying with a crisp “Yes, sir” to flatter his frail ego, and we never heard about it. In the next few years, we can pretend to be astonished.

— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) January 3, 2021

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 2:49:08pm

Refrigerator thought: Wasn’t it Georgia that Trump called once already, previously, trying to influence election officials? I don’t think, at that time, there was any discussion of outright illegal actions, but I feel like I remember Trump leaning on Raffensperger once before.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 2:49:40pm

Those GOP non-fascists, making “reasonable” (those are very big scarequotes) points while being asses.

Nancy Pelosi was just elected speaker. Her party controls the House. She’s trying to eliminate words like mother, father, daughter, nephew.

Some of my Republican colleagues say we should let Congress use discretion to reject electors chosen by states.

Good luck with that!

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) January 3, 2021

🌹UOJB! Jan 3, 2021 • 2:50:03pm

Can’t wait to hear what Glenn Greenwald says to Tucker Carlson about how the media is misrepresenting this call

— LawlessHat (@Popehat) January 3, 2021

Charles Johnson Jan 3, 2021 • 2:51:49pm

Who’s REALLY the arsonist when Chuck Todd just keeps inviting these shameless liars on his show over and over, giving them a platform to spread dangerous propaganda to millions of people? Oh wow, he dunked on Ron Johnson. Again. https://t.co/vDhMWPhv4t

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 3, 2021

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 2:52:23pm

re: #8 🌹UOJB!

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I imagine Ken is going to be veeeery active in analyzing this call, since his legal specialization is RICO.

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 2:53:22pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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If you need to invite Ron Johnson onto your show in order to feel smart and appear woke, it’s less of a slam dunk and more of a self-own.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jan 3, 2021 • 2:53:54pm

It’s been reported that there was a Zoom with hundreds of state legislators about “voter fraud” to try to get them to decertify their elections.

— aagcobb (@aagcobb) January 3, 2021

lawhawk Jan 3, 2021 • 2:54:41pm

re: #6 thedopefishlives

Refrigerator thought: Wasn’t it Georgia that Trump called once already, previously, trying to influence election officials? I don’t think, at that time, there was any discussion of outright illegal actions, but I feel like I remember Trump leaning on Raffensperger once before.

Yes. He has tried on several occasions.

Graham too.

Barefoot Grin Jan 3, 2021 • 2:55:35pm

I know I’m not the only one, but I can’t help shake the thought that Trump expected an outside actor or even an inside actor to throw him the election based on 2016 (and not based on conspiracy this time). When it didn’t happen or was thwarted by Krebs’s crew, it must have been a WTF moment for him. That’s my CT and I’m sticking to it!

Barefoot Grin Jan 3, 2021 • 2:56:19pm

re: #13 lawhawk

Yes. He has tried on several occasions.

Graham too.

Oh yeah, forgot about Lindsey’s immoral acts.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 2:56:44pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

I know I’m not the only one, but I can’t help shake the thought that Trump expected an outside actor or even an inside actor to throw him the election based on 2016 (and not based on conspiracy this time). When it didn’t happen or was thwarted by Krebs’s crew, it must have been a WTF moment for him. That’s my CT and I’m sticking to it!

It’s not a CT if you acknowledge it as such, it’s just a quirk! ///

Jack Burton Jan 3, 2021 • 2:59:50pm

re: #12 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m not sure why everyone is acting shocked by any of this. We knew Trump and *his* Senators were calling state officials and whining to them. We’ve known this for awhile.

Even if some of these other calls “went better for him”, it still changed nothing.

The 16 electoral votes isn’t enough for Trump to win, but that’s not his (main) goal. He want to overturn just one state, so that he can spend the rest of his life on TV bitching about rigged elections with his one state victory as proof AND it will keep him from losing to Biden by a margin bigger than Hillary lost to him, which his toddler ego CANNOT abide.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:00:47pm

BTW, Trumpanzee gave up the game not even when he said that he wants to find additional votes, but when he specifically named the number of the difference + 1 vote, that is, it cannot be argued to be about finding all the stolen votes as such.

Barefoot Grin Jan 3, 2021 • 3:01:40pm

re: #16 Nyet

It’s not a CT if you acknowledge it as such, it’s just a quirk! ///

My other quirks have been curbed by covid, so I indulge in political fantasy.

makeitstop Jan 3, 2021 • 3:02:24pm

Why would 10 former secretaries of defense publish this today?

10 former defense secretaries: Involving military in election disputes would be dangerous, unlawful - The Washington Post https://t.co/F8jGDtYPhn

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 3, 2021

Maybe they heard something? Makes me more than a little nervous.

🌹UOJB! Jan 3, 2021 • 3:03:30pm

re: #20 makeitstop

Why would 10 former secretaries of defense publish this today?

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Maybe they heard something? Makes me more than a little nervous.

Because Trump is going to bomb Iran…

jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 3:04:06pm

re: #20 makeitstop

I’m sure he’s been making a lot of calls.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:04:49pm

re: #20 makeitstop

Why would 10 former secretaries of defense publish this today?

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Maybe they heard something? Makes me more than a little nervous.

My guess is they heard about the army sttmt and it took some time to coordinate this letter.

Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Jan 3, 2021 • 3:04:54pm

None. All the rats with any survival instinct have already bailed. These 12 will go down with the ship

— Lord Piltdown (@jimreynolds54) January 3, 2021

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 3:04:55pm

re: #22 jaunte

I’m sure he’s been making a lot of calls.

While he’s been hiding from the media and abdicating his duty as President*, this is probably what he’s been doing. We know he’s been absolutely obsessed with overturning his overwhelming defeat.

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:06:03pm

re: #1 🌹UOJB!

Yeah but who in Georgia is going to arrest him? It’s a red state run by hardcore Republicans.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:06:30pm

But I love the classic structure of this short story.

Shot: “What you’re saying is not true. The truth will come out”
Chaser: it has.

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 3:06:51pm

The #DemocracyAgenda will set the tone for how the Biden-Harris Administration, the #117thCongress, state legislatures and progressive organizations address some of the greatest issues facing our democracy.

Submit your reform ideas here✍️https://t.co/z9HmYrAh03 pic.twitter.com/SjTCnkbirD

— Democracy Docket (@DemocracyDocket) January 3, 2021

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:07:28pm

Why Nobody Should Counterprotest in DC Wednesday:

“Never interfere with your enemy when he is occupied with destroying himself.” — Napoleon Bonaparte

— M₈e₅r₉s₄e₃n₃nᵉ (@mersenne859433) January 3, 2021

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 3:07:34pm

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

Yeah but who in Georgia is going to arrest him? It’s a red state run by hardcore Republicans.

Republicans he has been openly bashing in the press. Brian Kemp would probably relish the chance to arrest the fat fucker, if he could do so without angering too much of his base.

retired cynic Jan 3, 2021 • 3:08:32pm

re: #1 🌹UOJB!

Of course Georgia could arrest him, but while they may argue with him, and refuse to grovel, they are not going to serve any papers on him. They’re Republicans, for heavens sakes!

Barefoot Grin Jan 3, 2021 • 3:09:22pm

Hahahahahahahaha ha

Has Glenn Greenwald updated his SubStack series on why we have more to worry about from Hunter Biden’s laptop than Trump’s efforts to steal the election today?

— Dr. emptywheel (@emptywheel) January 3, 2021

Dr. Teddy's Person Jan 3, 2021 • 3:10:02pm

The audio of Trump with the Georgia secretary of state. Wow. It’s like telling the Nixon tapes to “hold my beer.”

— Dan Rather (@DanRather) January 3, 2021

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:11:01pm

Well, he’s a documented criminal, in Georgia and probably Federally now. https://t.co/FzlcsBdNga

— M₈e₅r₉s₄e₃n₃nᵉ (@mersenne859433) January 3, 2021

gocart mozart Jan 3, 2021 • 3:11:05pm

How it should be normally

Prior to swearing in Speaker Pelosi, @repdonyoung: “I do not like what I see. It’s time we hold hands and talk to one another.”

Full video here: https://t.co/jsRL1HxCQT #117thcongress pic.twitter.com/WfSIUPEr6Y

— CSPAN (@cspan) January 3, 2021

Charles Johnson Jan 3, 2021 • 3:11:36pm

When close associates of the president are openly calling for a military coup, that tends to get the attention of military leaders. https://t.co/DH6YINbmni

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 3, 2021

🌹UOJB! Jan 3, 2021 • 3:12:26pm

Fuck You, Chip Roy!

Rep. Chip Roy is challenging the seating of the delegations from AZ PA MI WI NV and GA, basically saying if the presidential election in those states was rigged as the president contends, then so are the elections of the House delegation.

They are now taking a recorded vote.

— Kristin Wilson (@kristin__wilson) January 3, 2021

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:14:15pm

re: #37 🌹UOJB!

But whatever his intent, he’s doing “God’s work”.

He’s putting other GOP members on record. Hard for them to say the vote for House members is valid, and then say on Wednesday that the presidential vote should be ruled invalid. It’s a sideswipe at Mo Brooks’ plan.

— Kristin Wilson (@kristin__wilson) January 3, 2021

Barefoot Grin Jan 3, 2021 • 3:14:32pm

This guy has grown facial hair as a punch target:

You’re a fake news pussy, Jake. I’d like to see you say that to my face. https://t.co/5OaOMqojwp

— Jason Miller (@JasonMillerinDC) January 3, 2021

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:16:44pm

re: #37 🌹UOJB!

Fuck You, Chip Roy!

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Wait, he signed the anti-coup sttmt. Not gonna say he’s good because of that, but here he’s temporarily on our side.

I am as outraged as anyone about the still-unanswered questions about the election. But the Constitution is clear:

States select electors. Congress does not.

There is only one path to victory for @POTUS on Jan. 6: state legislatures certifying Trump electors in states at issue pic.twitter.com/QypY9Kyk8P

— Rep. Chip Roy (@RepChipRoy) January 3, 2021

Belafon Jan 3, 2021 • 3:17:14pm

re: #20 makeitstop

Why would 10 former secretaries of defense publish this today?

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Maybe they heard something? Makes me more than a little nervous.

They heard the same thing we all heard: Trump is in the White House.

Specifically, though, Maddow was talking that she’s heard he’s considering it again.

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 3:18:24pm

re: #40 Nyet

Wait, he signed the anti-coup sttmt. Not gonna say he’s good because of that, but here he’s temporarily on our side.

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The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more, no less.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:18:29pm

re: #41 Belafon

They heard the same thing we all heard: Trump is in the White House.

Specifically, though, Maddow was talking that she’s heard he’s considering it again.

That news item from the other thread was a Dec. repost.

PrairieQueen Jan 3, 2021 • 3:19:16pm

I’d like a repeat, please.

Mug shots of Nixon’s men John Mitchell, H.R. Haldeman, John Ehrlichman and Charles Colson, all of whom went to prison for Watergate offenses under Nixon pic.twitter.com/INwDpWes53

— Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) January 3, 2021

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:19:27pm

I know because I too had to do a double take.

PhillyPretzel Jan 3, 2021 • 3:20:27pm

re: #44 PrairieQueen

You are not the only one.

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:21:08pm

re: #35 gocart mozart

Yet, scores of his own party are going to challenge the clear will of the majority of voters to elect Biden.

Belafon Jan 3, 2021 • 3:21:25pm

re: #37 🌹UOJB!

Fuck You, Chip Roy!

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This seems like a good thing. Also: let them fight.

austin_blue Jan 3, 2021 • 3:22:13pm

Pence runs into the Oval, panting:

“Mr.President! What are you doing!?!?!?”

Drumpf:

“The same thing I do everyday, Pinky, trying to take over the world.”

jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 3:22:19pm

Responsible newspapers - hello @nyt, @wapo, - would have double-page spread tomorrow with denunciations from Ryan, Durbin, Liz Cheney (!), of the clear and present danger of this criminal POTUS to American democracy. A real moment of truth for the Republic.

— Simon Schama (@simon_schama) January 3, 2021

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:22:31pm

And you know, let them babble on stage on the 6th, but the Dems should take this as an opportunity to dismantle their lies point by little point.

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:22:39pm

re: #39 Barefoot Grin

Is he gonna punch Jake if Jake says that to his face?

Jack Burton Jan 3, 2021 • 3:24:00pm

re: #33 Dr. Teddy’s Person

I agree with everything he’s said in regards to Clownstick, especially recently, but I can’t help immediately thinking of the throbbing memo whenever I see him.

For the love of… I wish he would have just admitted he screwed up and got bit in the ass hard by confirmation bias. Just that once.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:24:35pm

re: #53 Jack Burton

I agree with everything he’s said in regards to Clownstick, especially recently, but I can’t help immediately thinking of the throbbing memo whenever I see him.

For the love of… I wish he would have just admitted he screwed up and got bit in the ass hard by confirmation bias. Just that once.

Hear, hear!

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:24:44pm

re: #32 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure he’ll be pissed about the invasion of Trump’s privacy.

— Charles Wentworth Dilke (@Sandwichman_eh) January 3, 2021

PhillyPretzel Jan 3, 2021 • 3:27:03pm

re: #50 jaunte

Thanks Simon. I agree completely.

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:28:21pm

Always nice to have a good recording of attempting to do election fraud. It makes it so much easier for prosecutors to demonstrate intent. https://t.co/OHe4RdwSGy

— Norbrook (@Norbrookc) January 3, 2021

jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 3:29:08pm

Technology Pro Tip: You can totally prevent the person on the other end of the line from recording you making criminal statements by…

…just not being a fucking criminal.

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) January 3, 2021

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:31:24pm

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:32:21pm

A dog invaded a professional soccer match in Potosi, Bolivia, halting play for around three minutes 🐕⚽ pic.twitter.com/ArjIegi8cI

— Reuters (@Reuters) December 30, 2020

Jack Burton Jan 3, 2021 • 3:32:31pm

We need to have a system in which the President is terrified of what happens if he or she is committing crimes, not one where others are terrified to speak out against or go after him or her for it.

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 3:33:46pm

re: #1 🌹UOJB!

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Wouldn’t that be a shame? //

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:35:22pm

Voting for Impeachment would have been the right thing to do.

— Newsfanatic (@Newsfanatic) January 3, 2021

Charles Johnson Jan 3, 2021 • 3:35:35pm

re: #39 Barefoot Grin

This guy has grown facial hair as a punch target:

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Look out, we have an internet tough guy.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:35:39pm

Georgia Republicans I’ve talked to tonight are not happy with the President, but also critical of the Secretary of State leaking the audio. “Just one more f**king day,” complained one who said had it dropped Monday after or during the rally it wouldn’t be as bad.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) January 3, 2021

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:36:56pm

I don’t know. Did the President share matters of National Security while he was trying to get the GA secretary of state to overturn Georgia voters? Would be good to know! https://t.co/3AoGUB1HjG

— Robert A George (@RobGeorge) January 3, 2021

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 3:37:18pm

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

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Or see this as acceptable or that somehow Biden will be equivalent. I’m looking forward to Biden because he knows he doesn’t have to be America’s Sun President. I can go days without worrying about Biden because I trust him to make the right move and if anything he’s exceeding my expectations.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:37:28pm

Unexpected statement from Paul Ryan: “It is difficult to conceive of a more anti-democratic and anti-conservative act than a federal intervention to overturn the results of state-certified elections and disenfranchise millions of Americans.” pic.twitter.com/RRvoYiMv9n

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 3, 2021

Dr. Teddy's Person Jan 3, 2021 • 3:39:42pm

re: #68 Nyet

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Is Paul Ryan gearing up to run as the “reasonable” conservative in 2024?

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 3:39:48pm

re: #65 Nyet

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They’re the ones who let a conman take over their party. Trump and Republican will be inevitably linked together and this past year especially will have most Americans not wanting anything to do with that party and presidency when we fully come to grips of the past four years.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jan 3, 2021 • 3:41:22pm

re: #28 thedopefishlives

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Abolish the filibuster. No reform legislation can pass until this is done.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:42:02pm

re: #70 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They’re the ones who let a conman take over their party. Trump and Republican will be inevitably linked together and this past year especially will have most Americans not wanting anything to do with that party and presidency when we fully come to grips of the past four years.

And they are the ones who will in a couple of years blame this all on the Ds.

mmmirele Jan 3, 2021 • 3:42:29pm

Hey folks, just something to keep in mind…Trump can’t overturn the election with just Georgia. He needs to try and roll over other states. I suspect, given her hysterical tweet, that Kelli Ward, current head of the Arizona GOP got called by Trump. Our Secretary of State Katie Hobbs is a Democrat and Doug Ducey has senatorial ambitions, which would completely be blown to smithereens in this now purple state.

Whoever leaked that call was the true patriot. Not you, you’re involved in treason and sedition up to your eyeballs, Kelli.

— Dee *I picket cults, I don’t join them* Holmes (@mmmirele) January 3, 2021

Decatur Deb Jan 3, 2021 • 3:42:52pm

re: #65 Nyet

@EWErickson
Georgia Republicans I’ve talked to tonight are not happy with the President, but also critical of the Secretary of State leaking the audio. “Just one more f**king day,” complained one who said had it dropped Monday after or during the rally it wouldn’t be as bad.
5:28 PM * Jan 3, 2021

Hard to see Trump as anything but a Deep State Demoncrat plant.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jan 3, 2021 • 3:43:18pm

re: #30 thedopefishlives

Republicans he has been openly bashing in the press. Brian Kemp would probably relish the chance to arrest the fat fucker, if he could do so without angering too much of his base.

Kemp’s political career is over. No enemy of Trump can survive in GOP politics, save Mitt Romney.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:43:18pm

re: #73 mmmirele

Hey folks, just something to keep in mind…Trump can’t overturn the election with just Georgia. He needs to try and roll over other states. I suspect, given her hysterical tweet, that Kelli Ward, current head of the Arizona GOP got called by Trump. Our Secretary of State Katie Hobbs is a Democrat and Doug Ducey has senatorial ambitions, which would completely be blown to smithereens in this now purple state.

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Hope any other calls were recorded for the future prosecutions.

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:43:47pm

re: #65 Nyet

So it’s not that Trump is putting pressure on elected officials to steal an election — it’s the bad timing of the released phone call.

Alrighty then.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:45:01pm

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

So it’s not that Trump is putting pressure on elected officials to steal an election — it’s the bad timing of the released phone call.

Alrighty then.

Yeah. But it was a point I forgot about. I wonder how this plays out on the 5th.

FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Jan 3, 2021 • 3:45:19pm

NEW: Trump is expected to give Rep. Devin Nunes the Presidential Medal of Freedom — the nation’s highest civilian honor — on Monday, and to give the same award to Rep. Jim Jordan next week. https://t.co/mtk1u7JL9z

— Ashley Parker (@AshleyRParker) January 3, 2021

Dr. Teddy's Person Jan 3, 2021 • 3:45:35pm

Bill Kristol is freaking me out.

As minority leader, Nancy Pelosi laid the groundwork for winning the House. Under her leadership, the House then did what it could to check Trump. This November, she held the majority and helped Joe Biden win the presidency. She has served not just her party but the country well.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) January 3, 2021

retired cynic Jan 3, 2021 • 3:45:45pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

JFC

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 3:46:21pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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It’s a fucking worthless piece of garbage now. That’s depressing.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jan 3, 2021 • 3:47:00pm

re: #42 thedopefishlives

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more, no less.

It’s says nothing good about the GOP that a handful of them are not literal fascists.

🌹UOJB! Jan 3, 2021 • 3:47:01pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It’s time for Joe to terminate the Presidential Medal Of Freedom and while he’s at it he should also terminate any more Challenge Coins.

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:47:43pm

re: #80 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Bill Kristol is freaking me out.

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Imagine someone told you this 4 years ago.

FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Jan 3, 2021 • 3:47:50pm

I am waiting for my Canadian bacon, pineapple and jalapeño pizza to cool enough to be consumed

Dr. Teddy's Person Jan 3, 2021 • 3:47:53pm

re: #84 🌹UOJB!

It’s time for Joe to terminate the Presidential Medal Of Freedom and while he’s at it he should also terminate any more Challenge Coins.

#TrumpRuinsEverything

Dr. Teddy's Person Jan 3, 2021 • 3:48:27pm

re: #85 Nyet

Imagine someone told you this 4 years ago.

I would have had serious concerns with their mental health.

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 3:48:29pm

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

So it’s not that Trump is putting pressure on elected officials to steal an election — it’s the bad timing of the released phone call.

Alrighty then.

Maybe if they hadn’t encouraged conspiracy theories on their base, they wouldn’t have this issue. A lot of this goes back to the fact that the GOP base has had an extended temper tantrum since President Obama won his first election twelve years ago. The only reason why Trump rose in politics is birtherism and Republicans as high up as the VP nominee nurtured that shit.

Decatur Deb Jan 3, 2021 • 3:49:06pm

Little-known Broadway Fact:

“Just One More Fucking Day” was the original draft of the Les Mis showstopper, but the script doctors puked on it after the Connecticut tryouts.

LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 3:49:36pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Bribery in plain sight.

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:49:48pm

re: #84 🌹UOJB!

It’s time for Joe to terminate the Presidential Medal Of Freedom and while he’s at it he should also terminate any more Challenge Coins.

I strongly disagree. He just needs to return to the norm of giving those awards to decent human beings. I watched every ceremony under President Obama and enjoyed seeing him give awards to worthy recipients.

Charles Johnson Jan 3, 2021 • 3:49:52pm

re: #80 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Bill Kristol is freaking me out.

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He’s been like this for a while now. He’s a bow-tie conservative and Trump really irritates his sensibilities.

Dr. Teddy's Person Jan 3, 2021 • 3:50:04pm

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— Rage Kitty, ScD (@RageKittyin280) January 3, 2021

Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 3:50:32pm

austin_blue Jan 3, 2021 • 3:50:40pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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What about Devin’s loyal bovine friend?

i(m)p(each)(again!)sos Jan 3, 2021 • 3:51:13pm

re: #96 austin_blue

She’s getting the Moo-dal of Freedom.

Eric The Fruit Bat Jan 3, 2021 • 3:51:36pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Devin Nunes getting Medal of Freedom?!?!?

Dr. Teddy's Person Jan 3, 2021 • 3:51:38pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

He’s been like this for a while now. He’s a bow-tie conservative and Trump really irritates his sensibilities.

I know he’s been critical of Trump, but now he’s complimenting a Democrat. I thought that would have made him spontaneously combust.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 3:52:17pm

re: #88 Dr. Teddy’s Person

I would have had serious concerns with their mental health.

Bill for all my problems with his and the neoconservative worldview isn’t hostile to the idea of democratic rule. He’s just way way too comfortable with the use of military force and also had the great idea that someone named Palin should have Kamala Harris’s next job. Narrow minded but grudgingly to his credit, he’s consistently opposed Trump.

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Dr. Teddy's Person Jan 3, 2021 • 3:53:42pm

re: #100 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Bill for all my problems with his and the neoconservative worldview isn’t hostile to the idea of democratic rule. He’s just way way too comfortable with the use of military force and also had the great idea that someone named Palin should have Kamala Harris’s next job. Narrow minded but grudgingly to his credit, he’s consistently opposed Trump.

The Bill Kristol in my mind is the Bill Kristol of the W. Bush years.

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:53:43pm

re: #99 Dr. Teddy’s Person

I know he’s been critical of Trump, but now he’s complimenting a Democrat. I thought that would have made him spontaneously combust.

IIRC he said he is to be considered a D temporarily.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 3:53:45pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

He’s been like this for a while now. He’s a bow-tie conservative and Trump really irritates his sensibilities.

Bow tie conservative, is that new Charles? I like that even though I as I said grudgingly do appreciate his anti Trumpism even though I hope he and his like minded individuals aren’t in or anywhere near power again.

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nines09 Jan 3, 2021 • 3:54:01pm

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 3:54:59pm

re: #104 nines09

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 3:56:04pm

re: #101 Dr. Teddy’s Person

The Bill Kristol in my mind is the Bill Kristol of the W. Bush years.

Same. Even fucking Bolton sometimes sound reasonable. And then there’s Joe Walsh. I still don’t know how that happened. Then there’s the flip side which are the Jimmy Dores and Greenwald, self fancied progressive than thou but really the worst enablers of Trump because of their hatred of the Democratic establishment.

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stpaulbear Jan 3, 2021 • 3:57:34pm

re: #80 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Bill Kristol is freaking me out.

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He and Jennifer Rubin are apparently seeing the same light, for now.

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The Pie Overlord! Jan 3, 2021 • 3:57:35pm

That’s not how this fucking works, Rafael.

Ok, so you’ll object to GA?

Deal.

Let an impartial Election Commission decide what voter fraud occurred. https://t.co/Ub1JmH8eyf

— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) January 3, 2021

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thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 3:59:01pm

re: #108 The Pie Overlord!

That’s not how this fucking works, Rafael.

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An Election Commission did decide what voter fraud occurred. The answer was the same as what the courts, the states, and the Democrats have all been saying: NONE WHATSOEVER (well, except for those guys John Fetterman found in PA… Speaking of which, pick up the damn phone and tell Dan Patrick to pay up)

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Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 4:00:32pm

re: #108 The Pie Overlord!

Can someone who tweets ask him why Trump’s lawyers didn’t argue election fraud in court?

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Belafon Jan 3, 2021 • 4:01:37pm

re: #69 Dr. Teddy’s Person

Is Paul Ryan gearing up to run as the “reasonable” conservative in 2024?

A reasonable conservative will not win the nomination of the Republicans party.

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Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 4:03:47pm

So the guy who is just waving away Trump’s attempt to overturn the election is the same guy who screamed in terrified agony when an older Black lady brushed past him on her way to work.

— Don Hammond (@bluestatedon) January 3, 2021

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:05:37pm

Though Bill’s turn from R to D is not a radical as Irving’s turn from Trotskyism to neoconservatism.

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plansbandc Jan 3, 2021 • 4:07:50pm

re: #82 thedopefishlives

It really is. Rick Wilson is right. Everything tRump touches dies.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Jan 3, 2021 • 4:08:02pm

Warum nicht das eiserne Kreuz? https://t.co/UULF4WqhGv

— Clyde Haberman (@ClydeHaberman) January 4, 2021

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PrairieQueen Jan 3, 2021 • 4:09:40pm

I just had the funniest thought of what Trump would look like after 6 months in prison. Pale, wrinkled, overweight, and nobody to style his hair. Maybe not Harvey Weinstein level of repulsiveness, but close.

Losing his image would kill him faster than losing the presidency. It would be on par with his dick falling off and losing his manliness. There’s no swagger that could make that level of devolved look better. Special privileges? None. Treat him like the thousands of people doing hard time for bullshit charges like marijuana.

One pic on the cover of a gossip rag like that and he’d be tying bedsheets together. I’d bet money on that. And I’d frame that picture.

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plansbandc Jan 3, 2021 • 4:10:01pm

re: #104 nines09

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Barefoot Grin Jan 3, 2021 • 4:10:13pm

Well, it’s already well established that the Presidential Medal of Freedom goes to the most slavishly loyal lickspittles. //

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🌹UOJB! Jan 3, 2021 • 4:10:35pm

re: #113 Nyet

Though Bill’s turn from R to D is not a radical as Irving’s turn from Trotskyism to neoconservatism.

And I remember when Irving Kristol was a member of the Socialist Party back in the 60s until he turned along with the rest of Scoop’s Troops…

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Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 4:13:01pm

re: #113 Nyet

Though Bill’s turn from R to D is not a radical as Irving’s turn from Trotskyism to neoconservatism.

Is he a registered Democrat? I assume that he’s just not a Trump supporter but will flip back under a more “normal” Republican President.

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stpaulbear Jan 3, 2021 • 4:14:20pm

re: #116 PrairieQueen

He couldn’t look much more sullen than he did on inauguration day.

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BeachDem Jan 3, 2021 • 4:14:39pm

re: #22 jaunte

I’m sure he’s been making a lot of calls.

Well, Lindsey said the Christmas Day calls were about the covid bill, but who knows:

“We’d hit a shot, take a phone call. Hit a shot, take a phone call. Hit a shot, talk about what’s a good deal,” Graham said in an interview Monday. “It was a very intense Christmas Day.”

Also—put this at the end of the last thread, but bears repeating—just when you thought today couldn’t get any more stupid:

Trump on Monday is expected to give Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian honor, according to someone familiar with the plans.

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Belafon Jan 3, 2021 • 4:14:49pm

BTW, if you are wondering who Stacy Abrams thinks you shouod donate to, it’s an equal divide between Warnock and Ossoff. And she says there is still time.. Watergirl over at balloon juice has donation thermometers.

balloon-juice.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 4:15:29pm

re: #112 Patricia Kayden

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Tracey is another example of what I meant about Greenwald and Dore. It’s no coincidence that these are the same people who despise Clinton and pushed the conspiracy bs about how the DNC “stole the nomination from Bernie” four years ago.

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:15:54pm

This is just Nunes getting his just desserts.

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:17:29pm

re: #120 Patricia Kayden

Is he a registered Democrat? I assume that he’s just not a Trump supporter but will flip back under a more “normal” Republican President.

Not presumably forever; not perhaps for a day after Nov. 3, 2020; not on every issue or in every way until then. But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) February 1, 2020

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The Pie Overlord! Jan 3, 2021 • 4:17:47pm

That was #POS45’s voice, loud and clear, criming out loud for all the world to hear. No Deep Fake can perfectly mimic that nasal, whiny, high-pitched whimper with just the right amount of phlegm in the background. #ElectionIntegrity #StopTheSteal #TrumpLost #LockHimUp pic.twitter.com/Msgu8AQEus

— Key Lime Victory Pie (@Pie_Overlord) January 4, 2021

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:18:51pm

re: #126 Nyet

But OK, he’s not really one.

Why I can’t really be a Democrat… https://t.co/0AbZEMAtbo

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) December 6, 2020

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PrairieQueen Jan 3, 2021 • 4:19:14pm

re: #121 stpaulbear

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They both look pouty and shitty and self-involved, but Melania’s dress really was lovely.

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Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 4:19:51pm

Yeah, I listened to the whole thing.

*It is hard listening to Trump make the same redundant statements again and again.

*I think Trump could have talked for 6 or more hours.

* His head is full of QAnon BS.

* How did this wack-job get to be President! pic.twitter.com/Ix1NxmJ8wS

— mark maloof 🍥😷 (@sir_nose55) January 4, 2021

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 4:19:56pm

re: #127 The Pie Overlord!

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Dread Pirate Ron Jan 3, 2021 • 4:21:38pm

Current Available ICU Capacity by Region
Bay Area: 8.4%
Greater Sacramento: 10.3%
Northern California: 35.5%
San Joaquin Valley: 0.0%
Southern California: 0.0%#WearAMask

— Aaron Pero (@AaronPeroTV) January 3, 2021

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gocart mozart Jan 3, 2021 • 4:21:45pm

Did you know that Donald Trump received an award for his acting ability? He won the 1989 Razzie for Worst Supporting Actor for playing himself in “Ghosts Can’t Do it”. Here he is being out acted by Bo Derek. https://t.co/rzL70K7ROX

— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) January 4, 2021

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 4:22:22pm

re: #130 Patricia Kayden

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Neal is commenting as a lawyer when he uses may have. I’m certain there will be a criminal investigation into this and a bunch others. Biden is carefully choosing AG because it’s gonna be essential to create early trust in DOJ after these past four years. He’s definitely trying to find the right man or woman for the job. No big rush really since we don’t know the senate yet.

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:23:25pm

re: #124 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Tracey is another example of what I meant about Greenwald and Dore. It’s no coincidence that these are the same people who despise Clinton and pushed the conspiracy bs about how the DNC “stole the nomination from Bernie” four years ago.

Tracey is also one of those fuzzy-brained persons who we can easily expect to 180 in a few years.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 4:24:04pm

re: #133 gocart mozart

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My niece loves the Culkin Home Alone movies. I carefully had to go the bathroom right before his cameo in Home Alone 2 the last time I watched it with her.

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:25:56pm

6. “I was appointed to the Florida Supreme Court by a Democrat, but in Bush v Gore my objective analysis of the legal issues required me to write a dissenting opinion which…was cited in the majority and C.J. Rehnquist’s concurring opinion which decided the case.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) September 26, 2020

8. “I will not get into the details here. Suffice it though to say that President Trump’s threat to not accept the outcome of the election is a grave and real threat to our democracy.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) September 26, 2020

10. “The only way that I can see that this threat can be eliminated is to vote for Biden. It will not be enough to just not vote for Trump. Any basis for a contested election can only really be eliminated by the election not being close.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) September 26, 2020

It wasn’t close, and yet…

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PrairieQueen Jan 3, 2021 • 4:26:09pm

Demand his resignation? Whoa.

IT’S NOT A WATERGATE SMOKING GUN. IT’S A TRUMP SMOKING FLAMETHROWER. After Trump’s perfectly corrupt Georgia call, Presidents Bush, Carter, Clinton, Obama must jointly defend democracy by demanding Trump’s immediate resignation.Trump attempted a Coup D’Etat. YESTERDAY.O vs T: pic.twitter.com/j6XvzoLKIi

— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) January 4, 2021

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 4:26:17pm

re: #135 Nyet

Tracey is also one of those fuzzy-brained persons who we can easily expect to 180 in a few years.

No doubt. The past four years to me have answered something I found difficult to understand for a long time about how someone like Horowitz went from being leftist to rightist. I have no doubt I would have disliked leftist Horowitz as much as his present right wing version.

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Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 4:30:19pm

Trump said Covid went away on November 3rd

— everybodyisareseller (@nikegoblue) January 3, 2021

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:30:28pm

re: #139 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

No doubt. The past four years to me have answered something I found difficult to understand for a long time about how someone like Horowitz went from being leftist to rightist. I have no doubt I would have disliked leftist Horowitz as much as his present right wing version.

He was a leftist but I doubt he was ever a liberal.

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BeachDem Jan 3, 2021 • 4:31:17pm

re: #116 PrairieQueen

I just had the funniest thought of what Trump would look like after 6 months in prison. Pale, wrinkled, overweight, and nobody to style his hair. Maybe not Harvey Weinstein level of repulsiveness, but close.

Losing his image would kill him faster than losing the presidency. It would be on par with his dick falling off and losing his manliness. There’s no swagger that could make that level of devolved look better. Special privileges? None. Treat him like the thousands of people doing hard time for bullshit charges like marijuana.

One pic on the cover of a gossip rag like that and he’d be tying bedsheets together. I’d bet money on that. And I’d frame that picture.

Didn’t you hear? Pompeo redefined “swagger.”

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo rang in the new year by vigorously patting himself on the back in a tweet storm that defined the word “swagger” as “to represent America with pride, humility and professionalism.”
//

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PhillyPretzel Jan 3, 2021 • 4:31:29pm

re: #138 PrairieQueen

Olbermann is correct. Even in these last days DT must resign. I know he will not but it is good to hear someone like Keith Olbermann state what must be done.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 4:31:30pm

re: #141 Nyet

He was a leftist but I doubt he was ever a liberal.

Yeah you can be leftist without being a liberal and vice versa.

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:32:25pm

re: #144 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah you can be leftist without being a liberal and vice versa.

Look at all the tankies.

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HRH Stanley Sea Jan 3, 2021 • 4:33:38pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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heyooooooo https://t.co/LkmILp6Jc6

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) January 4, 2021

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Dr. Teddy's Person Jan 3, 2021 • 4:40:29pm

Of course he did

The audio published by @TheWashingtonPost is heavily edited and omits the stipulation that all discussions were for the purpose of settling litigation and confidential under federal and state law.

— David Shafer (@DavidShafer) January 3, 2021

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thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 4:40:32pm

It literally doesn’t end.

Looking at the President’s latest filing in the SCOTUS attempt to consolidate and expedite a bunch of cases, it seems that there may be yet another Trumpian suit in federal court in GA. https://t.co/1YC4WVrxJA

— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) January 4, 2021

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 4:40:33pm

re: #145 Nyet

Look at all the tankies.

Yep.

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:40:53pm

hahahahahahaha

With all due respect to my Republican colleagues, a $2k direct payment for individuals and families who are struggling is not socialism.

In my view it is necessary in the times in which we live.

— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) January 1, 2021

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The Ghost of a Flea Jan 3, 2021 • 4:40:57pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

He’s been like this for a while now. He’s a bow-tie conservative and Trump really irritates his sensibilities.

Longing for the kind of conservative leadership that knows which fork to use and Amy Vanderbilt’s rules of discretion in the course of sexual assault.

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BeachDem Jan 3, 2021 • 4:42:07pm

re: #107 stpaulbear

He and Jennifer Rubin are apparently seeing the same light, for now.

Jennifer Rubin has gone as hard after Republicans as she has Trump—her close today:

There must be a response to a president who exploits his office for the purpose of overthrowing an election. The evidence is on tape. The next attorney general should move forward, if for no other reason, to deter further attempts at such reprehensible conduct. I would suggest impeachment as well, which could include a ban on holding office in the future, but we know already Republicans will defend anything Trump does.

washingtonpost.com

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Dave In Austin Jan 3, 2021 • 4:43:38pm

Frank has a Thread:

.@JasonMillerinDC, the line of people who would say that to your face is millions long, but all of us will now happily grant @jaketapper first position. https://t.co/rVDIqu2QEX

— Franklin Leonard (@franklinleonard) January 4, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 3, 2021 • 4:46:14pm

re: #22 jaunte

I’m sure he’s been making a lot of calls.

lots of calls and meetings…from the golf course

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:46:15pm

No https://t.co/PPxoFWmwu1

— T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette) January 4, 2021

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thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 4:46:27pm

re: #148 thedopefishlives

From reading the thread, it appears that Trump is suing Brian Kemp (!) because Georgia hasn’t provided a ~~judge~~ stooge to hear his case on the merits, but keeps getting destroyed for “technicalities” like standing, laches, etc.

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BigPapa Jan 3, 2021 • 4:46:43pm

An acquaintance called a charcuterie layout ‘shark cootchie’ and I just wanted you all to know that.

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Barefoot Grin Jan 3, 2021 • 4:47:02pm

re: #150 Nyet

hahahahahahaha

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Ok, something’s afoot.

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PrairieQueen Jan 3, 2021 • 4:47:14pm

re: #148 thedopefishlives

I doubt anyone that rambles so bothers with formalities about confidentiality unless it’s his payoffs to sex workers. It could’ve happened, but I really don’t care. I think this falls under something like national security. You have a guy doing illegal shit and making veiled threats that directly affect the whole country, sort of like terrorism, except different. It was in the national interest to record it.

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stpaulbear Jan 3, 2021 • 4:47:15pm

re: #152 BeachDem

Yep. Rubin is as mad at republicans as Steve Schmidt.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Jan 3, 2021 • 4:47:35pm

Congressman Johnson of Georgia will introduce a resolution to censure Trump on Monday, calling for his resignation. https://t.co/PYDRhHmEvc

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) January 4, 2021

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 4:48:54pm

BTW, an earlier discussion made me read parts of Hitler’s speech to the Reichstag in support of the Enabling act and he was going on and on and on about “Marxism”. Tho he was more eloquent than the Trumpanzees, I’ll give him that.

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Decatur Deb Jan 3, 2021 • 4:49:25pm

Trump would like to have his administration excluded from testimony.

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thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 4:50:18pm

re: #157 BigPapa

An acquaintance called a charcuterie layout ‘shark cootchie’ and I just wanted you all to know that.

That there’s funny, I don’t care who y’are.

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stpaulbear Jan 3, 2021 • 4:50:41pm

re: #153 Dave In Austin

Frank has a Thread:

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With social distancing, that line would be 3 million miles long.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 3, 2021 • 4:52:13pm

re: #35 gocart mozart

How it should be normally

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Don Young can go fuck himself

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Jay C Jan 3, 2021 • 4:52:21pm

re: #157 BigPapa

An acquaintance called a charcuterie layout ‘shark cootchie’

I’ve heard it’s considered a delicacy….

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 3, 2021 • 4:54:23pm

Does anyone else feel like they’ve aged 10 years since Trump took office?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Jan 3, 2021 • 4:55:11pm

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

So are you concerned or disappointed?

Just trying to gauge where you’re at on this.

— Yeah Sure WTF Ever 🇨🇦🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸🇨🇦 (@YeahSureWhatev2) January 4, 2021

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BeachDem Jan 3, 2021 • 4:55:21pm

re: #160 stpaulbear

Yep. Rubin is as mad at republicans as Steve Schmidt.

And has been for quite some time. From September:

My Twitter blurb used to describe me as a “conservative opinion writer.” Now it reads: “NeverTrump, pro-democracy opinion writer.” Why the change?

Let’s be honest: There is no conservative movement or party today. There is a Republican Party thoroughly infused with racism and intellectually corrupted by right-wing nationalism. But there is no party that believes in less or small government (though expect the GOP to hypocritically resume singing that tune as soon as a Democrat steps into the Oval Office)…

For now, the objective remains removal of Trump and obliteration of a party that has grievously betrayed democracy and abandoned simple decency and honesty. Whatever alternative to the toxic waste dump of the Trump GOP arises to replace it may be worth considering — but only if it embodies the most basic American creed (“We the people…”) and abandons veneration of authoritarianism.

washingtonpost.com

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thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 4:55:52pm

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

Does anyone else feel like they’ve aged 10 years since Trump took office?

I’ve aged 10 years since January 2020.

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PhillyPretzel Jan 3, 2021 • 4:58:42pm

re: #171 thedopefishlives

This is going to take a lot from us.

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b.d. (We Won!) Jan 3, 2021 • 4:59:28pm

Got an email from my county health department telling me I have an appointment tomorrow afternoon to get my Covid vaccination!

The only positive side of living in an ant-vaccine/Covid denying county!

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thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 4:59:47pm

re: #173 b.d. (We Won!)

Got an email from my county health department telling me I have an appointment tomorrow afternoon to get my Covid vaccination!

The only positive side of living in an ant-vaccine/Covid denying county!

Congratulations!

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jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 5:01:29pm

re: #161 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I hope he plays the tape into the Congressional Record.

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b.d. (We Won!) Jan 3, 2021 • 5:01:59pm

re: #174 thedopefishlives

Congratulations!

Not expecting that at all! I assumed mid-next month.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Jan 3, 2021 • 5:02:50pm

Is it weird that he hasn’t tweeted in 5 hours?

/s/

— 𝙒𝘽 𝙔𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙜 🍕🐀😷 (@FormerDirtDart) January 4, 2021

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jan 3, 2021 • 5:04:23pm

Didn’t see this coming, Trump team….

So.

The claim here is that the Trump/Raffensperger call was a confidential settlement discussion in a court case.

If true, this would make things worse for those on the Trump side of the call. 1/x pic.twitter.com/fYs8Tl5pns

— Matthew Segal (@segalmr) January 4, 2021

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips Jan 3, 2021 • 5:04:34pm

Sometimes r/army is good pic.twitter.com/Ww7gN8BYiR

— Lethality Jane (@LethalityJane) January 4, 2021

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Jan 3, 2021 • 5:07:46pm

re: #178 Eric The Fruit Bat

Didn’t see this coming, Trump team….

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So a confidential conference call to discuss litigation… so the Georgia side was smart enough to record it since it’s already well known that you can’t trust anything Trump says when discussing legal things and deals. And if he asked for something illegal to be done I suspect that it loses any confidentiality protections since otherwise the Georgia side is being complicit in the conspiracy.

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Ace-o-aces Jan 3, 2021 • 5:09:31pm

So, the President is asking the Georgia AG to illegally alter the election results, but @NicolleDWallace’s tone is the big issue here?

— Ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) January 4, 2021

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 5:09:31pm

Trump and his allies have lost 60 post-election lawsuits, including several in GA. There are no cases that could have plausibly been the subject of settlement discussion.

Oh, and I represent parties in all of those cases, so I would have had to be on the phone as well. I wasn’t. https://t.co/O4dPrBpbMg

— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) January 4, 2021

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Rightwingconspirator Jan 3, 2021 • 5:11:14pm

re: #178 Eric The Fruit Bat

Skeptical Seagull is skeptical

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jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 5:11:35pm

A guy who sued a cow and another who covered up pedophilia. This is who the GOP deems medal-worthy. https://t.co/9RDJqhmNas

— Real Fake P0TUS (@RF_P0TUS) January 4, 2021

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 5:11:55pm

This is like some detective novel in real time lol

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior) Jan 3, 2021 • 5:12:20pm

re: #181 Ace-o-aces

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That clown is a self fancied “ investigated journalist” lol. Nicole is 100% right.

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stpaulbear Jan 3, 2021 • 5:13:07pm

re: #184 jaunte

Moodal of Farmdom.

188

jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 5:13:41pm

re: #187 stpaulbear

With the Lookaway Cluster.

189

So Cal Greek Hippie Jan 3, 2021 • 5:13:42pm

2021 Sunset Tonight over Southern California

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thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 5:14:06pm

Putting everything in context, then: Trump filed suit in court (his SCOTUS briefing refers to the state action; the tweet referenced upthread also includes a federal action). The requested relief is unclear because the cases haven’t posted to PACER yet, but the implication from the thread I posted earlier is that it relates to his cases not getting a fair hearing under the Due Process Clause. He then called the defendants - Kemp is listed as the first defendant in the state action, I didn’t see if he was on the call in the transcript; presumably Raffensperger and Germany are also on the list. As part of his “terms of settlement”, Trump demanded that the Secretary of State switch the vote totals so that Trump won the election in Georgia. It was assumed by all parties on the Trump side of the call that this would remain confidential (and possibly covered by attorney-client privilege - there was an attorney in the room). Obviously, since the request itself was a criminal act, that negates attorney-client privilege and confidentiality. Someone, presumably someone intelligent on the Georgia side although some reports indicate the recording sounds like it was made on the White House side, recorded the call, released it to the Washington Post, and now we’re here.

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plansbandc Jan 3, 2021 • 5:14:17pm

re: #171 thedopefishlives

Aged at least 10 years maybe more. I never looked my age, (good genes from my mom’s side). Now I look older than I am. The stress of tRump ripping our country apart and doing his best to destroy everything I care about has taken a big toll. Add the Covid breakdown, and there you go.

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NO SMOCKING GUN! Jan 3, 2021 • 5:14:25pm

re: #180 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So a confidential conference call to discuss litigation… so the Georgia side was smart enough to record it since it’s already well known that you can’t trust anything Trump says when discussing legal things and deals. And if he asked for something illegal to be done I suspect that it loses any confidentiality protections since otherwise the Georgia side is being complicit in the conspiracy.

It is also a breach of legal ethics to threaten criminal charges in an attempt to resolve a civil matter.

193

i(m)p(each)(again!)sos Jan 3, 2021 • 5:15:10pm

re: #191 plansbandc

Aged at least 10 years maybe more. I never looked my age, (good genes from my mom’s side). Now I look older than I am. The stress of tRump ripping our country apart and doing his best to destroy everything I care about has taken a big toll. Add the Covid breakdown, and there you go.

I look in the mirror and see my dad there now. He’s 82 and I’m not yet 50… but damn, did I go gray and wrinkly this past year.

194

stpaulbear Jan 3, 2021 • 5:16:44pm

re: #188 jaunte

With the Lookaway Cluster.

All of the Medals of Freedom given by Trump should have an asterisk stamped into the back.

195

jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 5:17:48pm

re: #194 stpaulbear

The mark of Incitatus.

196

Yeah Sure WhatEVs Jan 3, 2021 • 5:18:55pm

re: #150 Nyet

hahahahahahaha

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Someone is yanking on Lindsey’s cock ring. Hard.

197

A Three Hour Tour Jan 3, 2021 • 5:19:01pm

re: #184 jaunte

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Weren’t those student athletes university-aged, i.e, eighteen and older, and part of a college team. If so, then, by definition, it is not pedophilia.

Improper, yes. Abuse of power and position, yes. Skeevy, yes. But not pedophilia.

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Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 5:19:36pm

This is false. We published the entirety of the call, from start to finish. There is no mention of it being a confidential settlement meeting. None. https://t.co/1Q9btWZmep

— Amy Gardner (@AmyEGardner) January 4, 2021

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NO SMOCKING GUN! Jan 3, 2021 • 5:20:04pm

re: #190 thedopefishlives

Putting everything in context, then: Trump filed suit in court (his SCOTUS briefing refers to the state action; the tweet referenced upthread also includes a federal action). The requested relief is unclear because the cases haven’t posted to PACER yet, but the implication from the thread I posted earlier is that it relates to his cases not getting a fair hearing under the Due Process Clause. He then called the defendants - Kemp is listed as the first defendant in the state action, I didn’t see if he was on the call in the transcript; presumably Raffensperger and Germany are also on the list. As part of his “terms of settlement”, Trump demanded that the Secretary of State switch the vote totals so that Trump won the election in Georgia. It was assumed by all parties on the Trump side of the call that this would remain confidential (and possibly covered by attorney-client privilege - there was an attorney in the room). Obviously, since the request itself was a criminal act, that negates attorney-client privilege and confidentiality. Someone, presumably someone intelligent on the Georgia side although some reports indicate the recording sounds like it was made on the White House side, recorded the call, released it to the Washington Post, and now we’re here.

Correct. Attorney-Client confidentiality cannot be used to cover-up ongoing criminal activity.

200

jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 5:20:14pm

re: #197 A Three Hour Tour

I don’t know how old they were, but I was 17 my first year in college.

201

austin_blue Jan 3, 2021 • 5:20:18pm

re: #194 stpaulbear

All of the Medals of Freedom given by Trump should have an asterisk stamped into the back.

A Roman Senator. Also, Nero’s horse. Well done.

202

Charles Johnson Jan 3, 2021 • 5:23:44pm

It’s impossible for anyone but a Trump cultist to read the transcript of the phone call and not realize that Donald Trump’s head is full of snakes.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 4, 2021

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The Ghost of a Flea Jan 3, 2021 • 5:24:01pm

re: #170 BeachDem

And has been for quite some time. From September:

My Twitter blurb used to describe me as a “conservative opinion writer.” Now it reads: “NeverTrump, pro-democracy opinion writer.” Why the change?

Let’s be honest: There is no conservative movement or party today. There is a Republican Party thoroughly infused with racism and intellectually corrupted by right-wing nationalism. But there is no party that believes in less or small government (though expect the GOP to hypocritically resume singing that tune as soon as a Democrat steps into the Oval Office).

For now, the objective remains removal of Trump and obliteration of a party that has grievously betrayed democracy and abandoned simple decency and honesty. Whatever alternative to the toxic waste dump of the Trump GOP arises to replace it may be worth considering — but only if it embodies the most basic American creed (“We the people…”) and abandons veneration of authoritarianism.

washingtonpost.com

Yeah, but this just means that Rubin wasn’t paying attention for…and I am being generous…16 years prior to Trump’s election.

Like, welcome to the side lady but you can’t discern object permanence.

This is the problem with the who “well now they’re the resistance” thing with all these conservatives: it doesn’t matter what they’re doing now, they’ve spent decades setting up this disaster. It doesn’t matter what degree they’re operating in good faith or not, since their published opinions for decades have been unreal garbage and no one should take them seriously comparing the outcomes to their body of predictions.

204

jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 5:25:19pm

We all knew in 2015 that trump’s lawyers always met w/him in pairs to back each other up because of trump’s penchant to lie about what was said. Raffensperger was still claiming a few weeks ago he was proud of his vote for trump & disappointed he lost. Has he seen the light yet? https://t.co/Vj28TSn5A1

— (((antiantisemite))) (@Tristanshouts) January 4, 2021

205

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 5:26:48pm

Trump has a long history of filing frivolous lawsuits against people who embarrass him. He once sued Bill Maher for making a joke about his mom being an orangutan. He wanted to present his birth certificate to prove it wasn’t true https://t.co/xQf1tu8byv

— CJK (@cjk002) January 4, 2021

206

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 5:28:33pm

Yeah, even if the Trumpians filed a new case, I don’t think there’s any way that this was a settlement discussion. And if they HAVE filed a case and the lawyers representing GA weren’t on the call that would be pretty stunning.

Which leaves “they were lying to SCOTUS.” https://t.co/0J0mkp5Mpf

— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) January 4, 2021

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Patricia Kayden Jan 3, 2021 • 5:28:55pm

re: #181 Ace-o-aces

This fight with Nicole is all kinds of weird

— Lift As You Climb (@brenbrenchie) January 4, 2021

208

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 5:32:07pm

I’m not a prosecutor, and, as a long-time defense attorney, I might be more shy than a prosecutor about chasing a creative theory. But based on the laws I’ve reviewed so far, I don’t think there’s PC for a crime.

Happy to be wrong, though.

— Andrew Fleischman (@ASFleischman) January 4, 2021

209

jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 5:33:20pm

re: #208 Nyet

In November, I called for the prosecution of donald trump.

With today’s bombshell report of trump’s attempted vote-rigging on tape, I want to do a thread highlighting some of his specific crimes and bad acts from A to Z.

What follows is the tip of the iceberg. https://t.co/MZmWDElBEl

— Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) January 4, 2021

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garzooma Jan 3, 2021 • 5:35:36pm

re: #204 jaunte

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Officials in the secretary of state’s office recorded Saturday’s call, and Mr. Raffensperger told his advisers that he did not want to release a transcript or a recording unless the president attacked state officials or misrepresented what had been discussed, according to a person familiar with his direction.

As expected, that attack came in a tweet on Sunday morning, in which Mr. Trump claimed that Mr. Raffensperger “was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the ‘ballots under table’ scam, ballot destruction, out of state ‘voters’, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!”

IANAL, but doesn’t this mean that Trump broke confidentiality?

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NO SMOCKING GUN! Jan 3, 2021 • 5:36:43pm

re: #210 garzooma

IANAL, but doesn’t this mean that Trump broke confidentiality?

Yep. 😁

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jaunte Jan 3, 2021 • 5:36:56pm

re: #210 garzooma

Seems like, but I’m not a lawyer either!

213

Yeah Sure WhatEVs Jan 3, 2021 • 5:37:42pm

re: #197 A Three Hour Tour

Weren’t those student athletes university-aged, i.e, eighteen and older, and part of a college team. If so, then, by definition, it is not pedophilia.

Improper, yes. Abuse of power and position, yes. Skeevy, yes. But not pedophilia.

Not pedophilia, Ephebophilia (the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19).

214

Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Jan 3, 2021 • 5:42:39pm

215

Charles Johnson Jan 3, 2021 • 5:42:59pm

lolwut?

this is true inadvertent wingnut comedy pic.twitter.com/SBIxVJ0PPG

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 4, 2021

216

Rightwingconspirator Jan 3, 2021 • 5:46:58pm

Vaccination Nation

Vaccine Initial Doses 4,200,000
Reported Deaths From Side effects 0
Percentage of those vaccinated killed by side effects 0.00%
Serious side effects reported 6
Percentage of vaccine recipients that experienced serious side effects 0.00014%
Los Angeles County fatality rate as a percentage of cases 1.32%

217

thedopefishlives Jan 3, 2021 • 5:47:10pm

THREAD:
Here’s where I may have caused confusion earlier trying to figure out what’s going on with GA litigation. And here’s why I’m still very, very confused.

— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) January 4, 2021

218

Nyet Jan 3, 2021 • 5:47:40pm

An addition to my Fool Us all-time favorites.

Penn & Teller Fool Us // Fooled by French Magician Boris Wild // Impossible Card Trick // Season 7

219

Decatur Deb Jan 3, 2021 • 5:52:45pm

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not pedophilia, Ephebophilia (the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19).

OOOPS. I must have been an ephebophile in 1966. She’s 72 now, so can I cop a plea?

220

Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Jan 3, 2021 • 5:56:09pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

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They will say or do literally anything. Otherwise, they see their world coming to an end January 20th. I wish I shared their pessimism but we know from experience that conservatism is a malignant Hydra and it will take more than a new administration to finally beat the life out of it. We are making progress though and this new step is the most crucial yet. Perhaps (as Churchill said of the end of the North African campaign) it is “the end of the beginning.”

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PrairieQueen Jan 3, 2021 • 6:00:12pm

re: #220 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I think it’s like the horror movies, where you can’t turn your back on the monster or it gets back up and finishes you off.

They need to be beaten back like invasive toxic weeds, perennially. They will come back. And they never get better. Just accept it as fact.

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Belafon Jan 3, 2021 • 6:13:48pm

re: #198 Nyet

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Maybe I am biased, but does it seem like the Washington Post is getting more of any type of leaks than the New York times is?

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mmmirele Jan 3, 2021 • 6:44:13pm

re: #190 thedopefishlives

Someone, presumably someone intelligent on the Georgia side although some reports indicate the recording sounds like it was made on the White House side, recorded the call, released it to the Washington Post, and now we’re here.

It sounded like someone in the room at the White House recorded the call. Because Trump doesn’t sound like he’s on the phone.

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