A Perfect Fit: Chris Thile & Brad Mehldau, “Scarlet Town”

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Chris Thile & Brad Mehldau perform “Scarlet Town,” from their 2017 self-titled debut duo album. The song, written by David Rawlings & Gillian Welch, was performed at Bowery Ballroom in NYC in December 2015. Video by Alex Chaloff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2021 • 4:46:38pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2021 • 4:48:37pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is a very sweet surprise.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2021 • 4:49:25pm

This week’s dad joke stolen from a podcast:

“I took the shell off of my racing snail thinking it would make it faster, but all it did was make it sluggish.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2021 • 4:51:36pm
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A Three Hour Tour  May 9, 2021 • 4:51:44pm

The new threads are springing up fast today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2021 • 4:52:30pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2021 • 4:53:23pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well we know that kid is no artist.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  May 9, 2021 • 4:55:46pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love how he slips the Russia Collusion thing being a nothing burger and the impeachment being illegitimate inside of a container that’s even more asinine in hopes it will slide through unquestioned.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2021 • 4:56:51pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2021 • 4:56:52pm

re: #5 A Three Hour Tour

The new threads are springing up fast today.

Spring has sprung
and winter has fallen
and blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah pollen

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2021 • 4:57:25pm
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  May 9, 2021 • 4:57:53pm

re: #8 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

It’s like a bullshit burrito…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2021 • 4:57:57pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2021 • 4:58:26pm

re: #10 Barefoot Grin

Ahhhh-choo. The pollen count in Philly was 10.5 today.

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2021 • 4:59:03pm

re: #12 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

It’s like a bullshit burrito…

I hate those things.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2021 • 4:59:56pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2021 • 4:59:57pm

re: #14 PhillyPretzel

Ahhhh-choo. The pollen count in Philly was 10.5 today.

Today was the first day it broke my Claritin. I need to get eye drops tomorrow.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 9, 2021 • 5:01:19pm

Only 3 of my kids called today. The others left messages and emojis on WhatsApp.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 9, 2021 • 5:07:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2021 • 5:10:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2021 • 5:14:47pm

re: #5 A Three Hour Tour

The new threads are springing up fast today.

it’s all that rain today

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2021 • 5:15:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2021 • 5:22:50pm

re: #22 gocart mozart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2021 • 5:26:20pm
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darthstar  May 9, 2021 • 5:31:08pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  May 9, 2021 • 5:35:06pm

Alas, this is not real. Customer Service is a well-known and very funny satire account that goes around responding to bullshit complaints.

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2021 • 5:36:36pm
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gocart mozart  May 9, 2021 • 5:37:51pm
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 9, 2021 • 5:39:21pm

re: #27 Patricia Kayden

Big difference between 2001 and 2021: Democrats didn’t immediately start opposing everything Bush did just because he was from the opposing party. Because unlike the Republicans of 2021, Democrats weren’t afraid that they would be permanently out of power because their ideas were odious to the majority of Americans, even to their own constituents.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 9, 2021 • 5:40:13pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2021 • 5:40:43pm
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darthstar  May 9, 2021 • 5:45:33pm

I know it’ll never happen because DeSantis will give them perpetual tax free status to keep them, but I would love it if the cruise industry moved completely out of Florida (at least temporarily) to get them to reverse their voter suppression laws and Covid decisions.

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2021 • 5:49:19pm

Yep.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2021 • 5:50:40pm
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The Pie Overlord!  May 9, 2021 • 5:50:48pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 9, 2021 • 5:51:49pm

re: #32 darthstar

I thought they made their point here.

cbsnews.com

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Dangerman  May 9, 2021 • 5:54:39pm

re: #3 Barefoot Grin

This week’s dad joke stolen from a podcast:

“I took the shell off of my racing snail thinking it would make it faster, but all it did was make it sluggish.”

look at that escargot

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2021 • 5:54:58pm
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Dave In Austin  May 9, 2021 • 5:59:01pm

BeBee Screech Owlet. 2 went out of the box last night. This one was right outside the shop door. He’s really not cooked yet so we decided to put him back in the box as we have harsh weather in the forecast. If he goes out again, it’s on him.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  May 9, 2021 • 6:04:41pm

Our Lubbock friend from yesterday, hammered by local Rock station KFMX:

Crazy Man With Nothing Better to Do Harasses Lubbock Drivers [Video]

You may have seen this total douchebag standing on the side of the road on Saturday (May 8th) with a big sign spewing icky hatred on our city. It’s truly embarrassing to see something like this in my hometown, but it’s honestly nothing new.

The sign he’s holding says: ‘Thank your Mom today that she’s not gay. Happy Mother’s Day.’ It also has an American flag-themed border.

Most of us are used to the fact that we live in the center of the Bible Belt. We pass this kind of dumb garbage on the road every day. It’s sad to see someone try to ruin a beautiful Mother’s Day weekend by being arrogant and hateful.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  May 9, 2021 • 6:09:56pm

Happy Mother’s Day!
I bought a tremendous cake from local baker for multiple family milestone events coincident in early May and took wife to a local lunch and beach walk with dogs
Visit from adult (my friend, Maureen told me 30 years ago to raise adults, not kids because kids stay kids well into adulthood).
A terrific day
Photo = 2021 Cabazon, California

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2021 • 6:17:09pm

re: #41 So Cal Greek Hippie

The Cabazon dinosaurs are getting weird and and I’m here for it.

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2021 • 6:24:32pm

re: #41 So Cal Greek Hippie

Love the Cabazon dinosaur stop. It’s changed a lot over the years, and I’m glad to see it’s out of the hands of creationists now.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  May 9, 2021 • 6:26:03pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

For sure. Those young earth people were bad day at black rock kind of crazy

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Charles Johnson  May 9, 2021 • 6:33:01pm

I keep getting blown away by VScode, the more I use it. This is an amazing tool.

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🌹UOJB!  May 9, 2021 • 6:44:20pm

Boo Fucking Hoo!

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darthstar  May 9, 2021 • 6:49:08pm
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🌹UOJB!  May 9, 2021 • 6:54:10pm

re: #47 darthstar

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The Pie Overlord!  May 9, 2021 • 6:57:04pm

re: #40 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Our Lubbock friend from yesterday, hammered by local Rock station KFMX:

Crazy Man With Nothing Better to Do Harasses Lubbock Drivers [Video]

There are mothers who are gay and there are mothers who give birth to gay children, and also mothers who become surrogates for gay fathers.

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A Three Hour Tour  May 9, 2021 • 7:02:54pm

re: #47 darthstar

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That idealized Trump portrait looks more like ex TV-Tarzan Ron Ely than Lee Majors to me.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 9, 2021 • 7:08:58pm

re: #50 A Three Hour Tour

That idealized Trump portrait looks more like ex TV-Tarzan Ron Ely than Lee Majors to me.

Name that tune!

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2021 • 7:12:39pm

I love how in the ’70s you had drunk has-beens on daytime game shows who were better than a lot of talent today. I mean, who is the equal of Kitty Carlyle or Charles Nelson Reilly?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 9, 2021 • 7:13:14pm

re: #52 Barefoot Grin

I love how in the ’70s you had drunk has-beens on daytime game shows who were better than a lot of talent today. I mean, who is the equal of Kitty Carlyle or Charles Nelson Reilly?

Judge Jeanine Pirro?

[Gags.]

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Barefoot Grin  May 9, 2021 • 7:14:05pm

re: #53 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Judge Jeanine Pirro?

[Gags.]

:)

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🌹UOJB!  May 9, 2021 • 7:15:58pm

re: #52 Barefoot Grin

I love how in the ’70s you had drunk has-beens on daytime game shows who were better than a lot of talent today. I mean, who is the equal of Kitty Carlyle or Charles Nelson Reilly?

Don’t forget Paul Lynde on Hollywood Squares!

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 9, 2021 • 7:16:06pm

re: #54 Barefoot Grin

:)

Makes me wonder how long we’ll have to wait until she’s actually drinking on-screen on her show.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 9, 2021 • 7:16:43pm
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Dangerman  May 9, 2021 • 7:16:55pm

that feeling when you plop down onto the bed after a long day of satisfying accomplishments

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The Pie Overlord!  May 9, 2021 • 7:18:45pm

McNaughton fan fic (In spoiler tags because DA FUQ]

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 9, 2021 • 7:19:14pm
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Dangerman  May 9, 2021 • 7:19:27pm

re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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well somebody’s gotta

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plansbandc  May 9, 2021 • 7:19:47pm

re: #10 Barefoot Grin

And that’s no bullshit either. My breathing has been trash this spring.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 9, 2021 • 7:20:28pm

re: #52 Barefoot Grin

Match Game has been rebooted, but it’s not as good as the original.

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Secret ANTIFA Operative  May 9, 2021 • 7:22:26pm

From way downstairs…

re: #53 Jay C

It’s long been obvious that Kevin Sorbo isn’t (to say the least) the brightest bulb on the Hollywood marquee, but what is it about veering off the starboard rail that sparks these guys to seemingly go out of their way to look stupid on social media?

I mean, do they attend seminars (conducted by Dinesh D’Souza, probably) on Posting Smart-Ass Tweets To Own The Libz?

They do, in addition to those conducted by Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, John Cornyn, and Mike Huckabee.

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Secret ANTIFA Operative  May 9, 2021 • 7:24:53pm

re: #8 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I love how he slips the Russia Collusion thing being a nothing burger and the impeachment being illegitimate inside of a container that’s even more asinine in hopes it will slide through unquestioned.

What is the fucking deal with people like that guy?

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🌹UOJB!  May 9, 2021 • 7:25:18pm

Hope it jams on him!

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 9, 2021 • 7:26:44pm

re: #66 🌹UOJB!

Hope it jams on him!

He’s too much of a coward. I love how they’re still pushing the narrative that they need to violently overthrow the dutifully elected government of the country, though. Keep pushing that insurrection, douchecanoes.

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Jay C  May 9, 2021 • 7:27:18pm

re: #66 🌹UOJB!

Hope it jams on him!

More likely that the recoil from the first shots would kick the barrel back up in his face and cold-cock him right out….

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sagehen  May 9, 2021 • 7:30:04pm

re: #61 Dangerman

well somebody’s gotta

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 9, 2021 • 7:30:42pm

As far as today’s comedy game-shows, the best by far are in the UK.

Technically WILTY is not a game show (no audience guests trying to win something), as it’s all about mythical points for the winning team, but it can be quite hilarious:

Would I Lie to You? - “S13 E01 (Series 13 Episode 1)” | TM&MC

..

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 9, 2021 • 7:31:38pm

re: #70 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As far as today’s comedy game-shows, the best by far are in the UK.

Technically WILTY is not a game show (no audience guests trying to win something), as it’s all about mythical points for the winning team, but it can be quite hilarious:

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..

Mrs. Fish and I binge-watched “QI”, originally hosted by the excellent Stephen Fry, which was in a similar vein. It was a fantastic and sometimes hilarious show.

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A Three Hour Tour  May 9, 2021 • 7:43:45pm

re: #63 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Match Game has been rebooted, but it’s not as good as the original.

The original from the sixties, which had a different format than the more famous version from the seventies?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 9, 2021 • 7:48:58pm

re: #72 A Three Hour Tour

The original from the sixties, which had a different format than the more famous version from the seventies?

I meant the one with Gene.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2021 • 7:52:23pm

Happy National Lost Sock Day.

A classic clip from Saturday Night Live for Mother’s Day (3:14)

The Day You Were Born - SNL

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2021 • 7:54:03pm
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A Three Hour Tour  May 9, 2021 • 7:55:12pm

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I meant the one with Gene.

Gene Rayburn also hosted the tamer, more sedate (and some would say boring) sixties incarnation, but I think I get the one you really mean - The famous, popular one with Brett Summers, Charles Nelson Reilly, and Richard Dawson with all the double entendres.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2021 • 8:11:38pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2021 • 8:14:34pm

No, Human Traffickers Are Not Using Cheese To Kidnap People (Wonkette)

We are never afraid to be servicey here at Wonkette, which is why we want you to know that if you happen to find a slice of cheese on your car, it is much more likely that you were visited by a kindly cheese fairy and not in fact being targeted as chattel for a sex trafficking ring.

Whew! Glad we cleared that one up!

But like so many other notions that once seemed too absurd for anyone to believe — like this lady’s assertions that Hillary Clinton died eight months ago from kuru (goes to YouTube), a disease associated with cannibalism — it is in fact a thing that people are saying is a thing. Go figure, right?

An article published earlier this week on IHeartRadio warned women that if they go outside and see slices of cheese on their car, they could be being targeted to be kidnapped by sex traffickers. The source of this article was a TikTok video from a girl named Mimi, who claimed that this very thing happened to her. Not the sex trafficking part. Just the cheese. But she was pretty sure some dudes in a van put the cheese on her car and totally would have trafficked her had she not called her friend to help her get the cheese off of her car.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  May 9, 2021 • 8:17:24pm

Ultimate no-brainer:

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🌹UOJB!  May 9, 2021 • 8:22:14pm

re: #70 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As far as today’s comedy game-shows, the best by far are in the UK.

Technically WILTY is not a game show (no audience guests trying to win something), as it’s all about mythical points for the winning team, but it can be quite hilarious:

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..

I laughed all the way thru that British game show. But it’s something that would never get on the air in the US.

And when British shows do get on the air here they are severely dumbed down like The Weakest Link and especially Drew Carey’s version of Whose Line Is It Anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2021 • 8:26:45pm

Only the good die young.

Cuyahoga Falls Pentecostal televangelist Ernest Angley dies at age 99 (Cleveland Plain Dealer)

AKRON, Ohio — The Rev. Ernest W. Angley, a faith-healing Pentecostal televangelist who claimed a lifetime of personal visits from God, died Friday at age 99, according to an announcement on the website of his Cuyahoga Falls-based ministry.

The preacher rose over the decades from tent revivalist to running a world-wide ministry with his namesake from what would be a vast home base in suburban Akron. Delivering his sermons in his distinctive drawl, Angley was one of the most influential modern-day faith healers and televangelists, though not as flashy as some of his contemporaries.

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Sherlock Hound  May 9, 2021 • 8:36:19pm

re: #68 Jay C

More likely that the recoil from the first shots would kick the barrel back up in his face and cold-cock him right out….

He’d trip on that bullet string (no, I don’t know the nomenclature, deal with it.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 9, 2021 • 8:39:45pm

re: #82 Sherlock Hound

He’d trip on that bullet string (no, I don’t know the nomenclature, deal with it.)

I was curious so I looked it up. Unsurprisingly, it’s called a belt.

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Sherlock Hound  May 9, 2021 • 8:44:03pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

I was curious so I looked it up. Unsurprisingly, it’s called a belt.

All I can imagine is him trying to walk with it, like the guys we see in Subway carrying three guns and six clips, um, mags. Clank, clank, clank! And trip!

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retired cynic  May 9, 2021 • 8:47:04pm

re: #84 Sherlock Hound

All I can imagine his him trying to walk with it, like the guys we see in Subway carrying three guns and six clips, um, mags. Clank, clank, clank! And trip!

The Ghost of Christmas not-so-Past.

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Belafon  May 9, 2021 • 8:53:21pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 9, 2021 • 8:59:53pm

Worth a click

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🌹UOJB!  May 9, 2021 • 9:04:17pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2021 • 9:04:55pm

Opinion: The big myth about Cheney, Trump and the GOP (James Downie at the Washington Post)

But as much as media outlets love intraparty conflict, there’s no battle here. This is not to pretend, as former New Jersey governor Chris Christie did on ABC’s “This Week,” that most Republicans side with Cheney against former president Donald Trump’s lies about the election. (When host George Stephanopoulos pointed out that 70 percent of Republicans do not believe Joe Biden won the presidency legitimately, Christie could only grouse that “the people that I talk to are not in that camp.”) The fact that Washington has expected Cheney’s removal for days fits with what Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.), chair of the conservative Republican Study Committee, told “Fox News Sunday”: “Republicans are almost completely unified in a single mission to oppose the radical, dangerous Biden agenda … except for Liz Cheney.”

The reason there’s no battle is that while Cheney, Hogan and others want to argue that their vision of the Republican Party competes with Trump’s, that’s simply not the case. I’ve written previously that the GOP is still Trump’s GOP. But the reverse is also true: Trump’s GOP is the GOP as it’s ever been.

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🌹UOJB!  May 9, 2021 • 9:09:15pm

For those who hate pineapple on pizza—remember there’s something even WORSE that was suggested!

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ckkatz  May 9, 2021 • 9:18:07pm

re: #66 🌹UOJB!

Hope it jams on him!

M-60 seems to missing a very important piece of wrapped wire on the front of the gas system.

One of the problems with the m-60 was that, in most models, the gas tube had to be wired together. Otherwise it had an alarming tendency to disassemble. With severe consequences to it’s functioning. (Ie the parts would come loose, the gas [from the gunpowder in the cartridge] would leak rather than operate the weapon, and firing would slow down or stop.)

Plus when one was in the middle of nowhere, and the gas system parts fell into a swamp in the middle of a firefight, the likelihood of having the correct spare was pretty much zero.

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Dread Pirate Ron  May 9, 2021 • 9:30:00pm

re: #90 🌹UOJB!

For those who hate pineapple on pizza—remember there’s something even WORSE that was suggested!

[Embedded content]

It’s better than SpaghettiOs

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William Lewis  May 9, 2021 • 9:34:16pm

re: #91 ckkatz

I always hated the M-60 with a passion. Heavy, unreliable, several “gotchas” in the design like the wire you mention (put the spring holding the pins for the trigger group on backwards and it’ll easily pop off leading to a run-away firing machine gun when the pins work out and the trigger group falls off). The ones I had to deal with in the 80’s & 90’s were all really badly worn out on top of it.

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ckkatz  May 9, 2021 • 9:34:50pm

re: #10 Barefoot Grin

Spring has sprung
and winter has fallen
and blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah pollen

It is the merry month of May,
when everything is cold and grey,
the rain is dripping from the trees
and life is like a long disease,

the storm clouds hover round like ghouls,
the birds all sing, because they’re fools,
and beds of optimistic flowers
are beaten down by thunder showers,
- Gavin Ewart

[cropped to deliberately remove context ;) ]

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EPR-radar  May 9, 2021 • 9:35:43pm

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Exactly. As I like to say, the GOP spent decades transforming itself into a perfect pigsty for a right wing Populist, and Trump is just the Pig of Destiny who tried at the right time.

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Dread Pirate Ron  May 9, 2021 • 9:39:40pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

It would probably mean a whole lot more if 15 states had taken their thumbs out of their asses to report their numbers today, not to mention all the partial counts within states. The numbers are useless.

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ckkatz  May 9, 2021 • 9:43:11pm

re: #93 William Lewis

I always hated the M-60 with a passion. Heavy, unreliable, several “gotchas” in the design like the wire you mention (put the spring holding the pins for the trigger group on backwards and it’ll easily pop off leading to a run-away firing machine gun when the pins work out and the trigger group falls off). The ones I had to deal with in the 80’s & 90’s were all really badly worn out on top of it.

Runaway’s can be very embarrassing. Particularly when there is an audience.

I remember those times too!

The m-60’s were worn out as were the cal .45 pistols. And the general method of cleaning the m-60, at least until one planned on taking it into combat, was to dunk it in a trough of gun cleaning solution. No lost parts and let the armorer’s crew deal with it.

But I always thought that the m-60 version on armored vehicles was a little better due to the redesigned gas system.

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ckkatz  May 9, 2021 • 9:46:33pm

From an earlier thread:

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just came out of an interesting internet rabbit hole…

Apparently there was indeed a Stag Lee Shelton who shot William ‘Billy’ Lyons in a St Louis Bar in 1895 after Lyons grabbed and crushed Shelton’s Stetson hat during an argument. Lyons eventually died of the wound and Shelton spent over a decade in the Missouri State Penitentiary in Jefferson before being released.

Shelton died in prison (on a different conviction) in 1912 and is buried at the historic Greenwood Cemetery in Hillsdale, Missouri The Killer Blues Headstone Project raised monies to place a stone on his unmarked grave, and on April 14, 2013, a marker was laid during a public ceremony.

en.wikipedia.org

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Targetpractice  May 9, 2021 • 9:48:08pm

re: #66 🌹UOJB!

Hope it jams on him!

[Embedded content]

I’d be amazed if the lazy fuck could heft all up to a standing position, let alone make it any length of distance on foot before he started bitching about how heavy it all is.

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Belafon  May 9, 2021 • 9:52:04pm

A t-shirt we can all agree on even if you don’t read questionablecontent.com:

“My Brain is Trash and I Live on the Internet”

topatoco.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  May 9, 2021 • 9:52:39pm

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Only the good die young.

Cuyahoga Falls Pentecostal televangelist Ernest Angley dies at age 99 (Cleveland Plain Dealer)

(more)

Angley was a credit to his profession, though a disgrace to the rest of humanity. He had a Boeing 747 for overseas mission trips.

His sometimes-outrageous faith-healing claims drew sharp criticism from many, including officials in Munich, Germany, who arrested him in 1984 on charges of fraud and practicing medicine without a license, and officials in Guyana, who in 2006 blasted him for claiming he could cure AIDS.

Officials in Guyana are understandably skeptical of cultic preachers. The Jonestown mass suicide (actually a massacre) remains by far the worst human caused disaster in the country’s history.

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🌹UOJB!  May 9, 2021 • 10:04:25pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Ol’ Ernest had the funkiest hair…

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Targetpractice  May 9, 2021 • 10:08:11pm

Few things are as divorced from reality as the fantasy that Donald Trump is fit enough to do anything on the battlefield besides serve as sniper bait. He looks like he gets winded walking to the fridge.

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EPR-radar  May 9, 2021 • 10:21:13pm

re: #103 Targetpractice

Few things are as divorced from reality as the fantasy that Donald Trump is fit enough to do anything on the battlefield besides serve as sniper bait. He looks like he gets winded walking to the fridge.

You know how Ben Garrison draws Trump? That’s how Trump cultists see Trump.

I sure there will be several Ph.D. dissertations on Ben Garrison’s ‘art’ as a window into what passes for the minds of the US right.

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Dave In Austin  May 9, 2021 • 10:22:38pm

re: #102 🌹UOJB!

Oh… He’s a winner besides the topper

usatoday.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  May 9, 2021 • 10:38:39pm

I’m watching a bike video and WTF is that thing?

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Dread Pirate Ron  May 9, 2021 • 10:40:48pm

answered a few seconds later, power line weights.

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Targetpractice  May 9, 2021 • 10:44:52pm

re: #104 EPR-radar

You know how Ben Garrison draws Trump? That’s how Trump cultists see Trump.

I sure there will be several Ph.D. dissertations on Ben Garrison’s ‘art’ as a window into what passes for the minds of the US right.

They keep imagining themselves as the cast of Red Dawn, yet don’t realize that Donny would play the part of the Quisling Mayor who none of the occupying forces respect and whose role is simply to keep the locals docile and compliant.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2021 • 10:59:22pm

Sovereign Citizen Streams Self Stealing Vial Of Vaccine, To Save Us All From ‘Poisoning’ (Doktor Zoom at Wonkette)

Turns out this asshat stole a second vial from a different place, and filmed that as well.

Doktor Zoom also calls out Daily Beast and Newsweek for reporting the man was arrested for the thefts of the vaccine vials. He was arrested for sovereign citizen equipment violations (no license, obstruction of justice, &c).

Doktor Zoom actually got in contact with the guy on Facebook, where the man says he was not arrested for the vaccine thefts he filmed. Wonkette also has screen captures of the docket pages showing he was arrested for vehicle laws, not theft. (He could be charged with the thefts later, but has not been as of now.)

Dok also went to the trouble of looking up this guy’s social media accounts; he is a full-on sovereign citizen conspiraloon.

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ckkatz  May 9, 2021 • 11:03:19pm

JJ McNabb went through his social media and concluded :

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2021 • 11:18:08pm

re: #110 ckkatz

JJ McNabb went through his social media and concluded :

The guy’s Website isn’t quite up to the quality of Time Cube, but it’s close.

National Action Task Force

Note: He doesn’t have an office on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington like he claims.

These ultra-libertarian wackaloons unfortunately rope in the gullible and get them in trouble:

National Action Task Force: Minnesota Restaurant Owner Defies Governor’s Emergency Order, Turns The Tables And Sues Governor Walz And Multiple Others In Their Personal Capacity (PR Newswire)

Hanson is now going on the offensive to expose what she calls the corruption of the court and is suing the judge, Governor Walz, the city of Albert Lea, the city prosecutor Kelly Martinez, and others involved for their complicity in what she alleges as corrupt criminal activity and abuse of power, which are outlined in some detail in this interview.

(more)

She is suing for a sum of $200,000,000.

I find it very interesting that libertarians of all stripes, the less crazy and the more crazy, all rail about “fiat money,” but they all seem to want “fiat money” regardless of whether they are in business or they are suing someone.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 9, 2021 • 11:41:40pm
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ckkatz  May 9, 2021 • 11:44:21pm

It always seemed to me that there were two classes in these scams: “grifters” and “marks”. Same in the Magat world too. The entertainment with the Magats is that even the folks who know that it is a grift, still haven’t figured out that they are actually marks. Some of them eventually do figure it out as they get tossed under the bus, though. The only way to win in this game is to not play.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 10, 2021 • 12:02:23am

The first tweet has a bit more info threaded

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ericblair  May 10, 2021 • 12:14:13am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I find it very interesting that libertarians of all stripes, the less crazy and the more crazy, all rail about “fiat money,” but they all seem to want “fiat money” regardless of whether they are in business or they are suing someone.

Fox News viewers also don’t find it odd that the same people on TV telling you that fiat money will be worthless and you need gold or crypto, are the same people who will happily take your worthless fiat money for valuable gold or crypto. Guess they’re just nice helpful folks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 12:27:48am

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

I told my son to draw a heart for mom. He drew a butt. He gets me.

The image we have come to associate with a heart is actually based on a stylized female derriere.

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ericblair  May 10, 2021 • 12:37:15am

I’m sure there will be no problems from this whatsoever.

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2021 • 12:38:07am

re: #115 ericblair

Fox News viewers also don’t find it odd that the same people on TV telling you that fiat money will be worthless and you need gold or crypto, are the same people who will happily take your worthless fiat money for valuable gold or crypto. Guess they’re just nice helpful folks.

That’s what always causes me the loudest laughs, the idea that gold and/or cryptocurrencies are any sort of hedge against the collapse of fiat currency. Gold’s value is dependent upon what others will pay to acquire it, it has no inherent value that you can use to trade in it. If tomorrow the US were reduced to a barter economy (say the value of the dollar cratered), you might find that it takes a bag of gold coins for a single 16oz bottle of water.

“That’s not a fair trade!,” you say? Well, the guy with the water certainly thinks it is, and what he’s got to trade has value as a source of hydration. Your gold coins are little more than shiny paperweights if nobody wants them.

And cryptocurrency? HA! If you think gold is worthless, try trading in lines of code with that guy with the bottle of water.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 12:39:04am

re: #71 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Mrs. Fish and I binge-watched “QI”, originally hosted by the excellent Stephen Fry, which was in a similar vein. It was a fantastic and sometimes hilarious show.

I did that when I first discovered it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 12:42:24am

re: #80 🌹UOJB!

I laughed all the way thru that British game show [QI]. But it’s something that would never get on the air in the US.

And when British shows do get on the air here they are severely dumbed down like The Weakest Link and especially Drew Carey’s version of Whose Line Is It Anyway.

I think there was an attempt to do so but the game requires a certain base knowledge from its audience that our public school systems stopped providing decades ago…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 12:43:39am

re: #90 🌹UOJB!

For those who hate pineapple on pizza—remember there’s something even WORSE that was suggested!

needs pineapple

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 12:50:15am

re: #118 Targetpractice

And cryptocurrency? HA! If you think gold is worthless, try trading in lines of code with that guy with the bottle of water.

Especially if there is a major disruption/collapse of the world electrical and/or data transmission network.

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ericblair  May 10, 2021 • 12:53:45am

re: #118 Targetpractice

And cryptocurrency? HA! If you think gold is worthless, try trading in lines of code with that guy with the bottle of water.

And it’s not like humanity hasn’t had any experience with the fall of government. After the apocalypse, the “money” you use will most likely be the stuff that the local warlord will accept as tribute/protection money. And that warlord is most likely not you.

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ericblair  May 10, 2021 • 1:03:14am

There seems to be a downside to relying on delusional incompetent bigots to produce actual results.

We can’t really rely on MAGAts to fuck up everything they touch, but we can expect a long string of own goals.

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2021 • 1:04:15am

re: #123 ericblair

And it’s not like humanity hasn’t had any experience with the fall of government. After the apocalypse, the “money” you use will most likely be the stuff that the local warlord will accept as tribute/protection money. And that warlord is most likely not you.

We all know the truth: The future currency is bottlecaps!

Why are bottlecaps REALLY used as money? - Rethinking Fallout 4

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2021 • 1:22:00am

re: #124 ericblair

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There seems to be a downside to relying on delusional incompetent bigots to produce actual results.

We can’t really rely on MAGAts to fuck up everything they touch, but we can expect a long string of own goals.

What embarrassing to Paul is that this all isn’t playing out as was advertised to he and his fellow Repubs. They were promised a quick “audit” that would find evidence of “fraud” and publish it for the world to see, finally vindicating the Big Lie and teeing up the party for a march into 2022 on the platform of “TRUMP WAS ROBBED!!!”

Instead, it’s turned into an utter clusterfuck of batshittery, with every failure to prove a QAnon “theory” followed up by the search for proof of another. Such that the “quick” process has instead turned into something that the “auditors” are now saying could go on for weeks or even months. There’s only one of two ways it will end: When the courts finally step in and bring it all to a halt or when the “auditors” have manufactured enough “proof” to satisfy their backers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 1:25:15am

It would have been enough to demonstrate or at least indicate some “serious inconsistencies” to then set off a string of subsequent audits in other counties/states.

But even that low hurdle was too much for those mouth-breathers.

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2021 • 1:40:20am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It would have been enough to demonstrate or at least indicate some “serious inconsistencies” to then set off a string of subsequent audits in other counties/states.

But even that low hurdle was too much for those mouth-breathers.

That’s not the hurdle they’re trying to clear. They’re not simply wanting to argue that, if not for “irregularities” in state vote counts, Trump might have won in November and that’s why we need vote suppression laws. No, they want to argue that Trump did win and Democrats “stole” the election from his through trickery and with help from America’s enemies. Hence the “bamboo ballot” shit, since they’re so insecure about the reality of their minority status in the voter pool that they can’t accept Biden won without China shipping in ballots to make up the difference.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 1:43:08am

re: #128 Targetpractice

They just want to to anything that will keep up some momentum. Fortunately, this is all running aground due to the sheer incompetence of the people behind it.

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Dave In Austin  May 10, 2021 • 1:45:48am
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Targetpractice  May 10, 2021 • 1:47:30am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They just want to to anything that will keep up some momentum. Fortunately, this is all running aground due to the sheer incompetence of the people behind it.

There was a remark upthread about how there were no riots in 2000. And that’s not entirely accurate, there were riots…or rather there was one riot: The Brooks Brothers Riot.

Dems demonstrate in order to ensure that votes can be cast and counted without outside interference. Repubs cause outside interference and then insist that the votes cast and counted can’t be trusted.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 1:54:21am

Again: our electoral system was based on trust and good will with a minimum of mutual control and supervision.

Trump’s GOP has chucked that system overboard and declared that it is corrupt and no longer trustworthy. Because they are pissy children upset with the outcome.

We need a reformed, more robust and transparent system.

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ericblair  May 10, 2021 • 1:55:54am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They just want to to anything that will keep up some momentum. Fortunately, this is all running aground due to the sheer incompetence of the people behind it.

I read that the venue is going to kick them out anyways on the 14th because that’s how long they booked it for, and of course it’s taking longer than that because crazy stupid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 1:59:19am

re: #133 ericblair

I read that the venue is going to kick them out anyways on the 14th because that’s how long they booked it for, and of course it’s taking longer than that because crazy stupid.

They are suffering from skin irritation due to all the bamboo splinters?

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2021 • 1:59:46am

re: #133 ericblair

I read that the venue is going to kick them out anyways on the 14th because that’s how long they booked it for, and of course it’s taking longer than that because crazy stupid.

Apparently they thought that they were going to face absolutely no court challenges, no opposition to the laundry list of items they demanded be turned over to “investigate,” and that the Feds would just let all this go forward without keeping watch.

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Dread Pirate Ron  May 10, 2021 • 2:11:42am

re: #124 ericblair

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There seems to be a downside to relying on delusional incompetent bigots to produce actual results.

We can’t really rely on MAGAts to fuck up everything they touch, but we can expect a long string of own goals.

He’s right, they are idiots.

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EPR-radar  May 10, 2021 • 2:17:57am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Libertarians are parasites on civilization — they don’t want to pay for civilization, but everything they want is only possible with civilization.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 2:28:01am

re: #137 EPR-radar

Libertarians are parasites on civilization — they don’t want to pay for civilization, but everything they want is only possible with civilization.

They assume that civilization will organize itself. Which it will, just not necessarily in their interest

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  May 10, 2021 • 3:10:09am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which brings to mind this classic

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steve_davis  May 10, 2021 • 3:18:57am

re: #9 gocart mozart

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if i spent any time hunched over like the kid in the background, I’d be in figurative traction for a week. Ask me how I know.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 3:24:43am

Well, apparently there are some people who still fervently believe that Donald John Trump won the election and that suing random people will magically convince everybody of this truth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 3:26:24am

re: #141 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Well, apparently there are some people who still fervently believe that Donald John Trump won the election and that suing random people will magically convince everybody of this truth.

The only path forward to True Democracy is through an appointed dictatorship.

It is all so clear to me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 10, 2021 • 3:53:47am
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Dread Pirate Ron  May 10, 2021 • 4:02:16am
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William Lewis  May 10, 2021 • 4:03:32am

re: #143 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Oh. My.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 4:11:17am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only path forward to True Democracy is through an appointed dictatorship.

It is all so clear to me.

What gets me is that the GQP genuinely seem to think there is nothing wrong with this approach. What’s that? No, we’re not trying to overthrow an elected government, we’re fighting THE MAN (tm), and he STOLE that election from us using trickery and strategery! Evidence? We don’t need no steenkin’ evidence, everybody Just Knows (tm) this! Are you bought and paid for by George Soros or something?!

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Dread Pirate Ron  May 10, 2021 • 4:12:44am

I’m listening to a KC radio station, they say only 30% of parents will get their children under 16 vaccinated. Children are much more receptive to vaccination than their parents.

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 4:14:44am

So, a bit of excitement here in Ostrava this morning, where a major fire broke out at an auto wrecking yard not far from the city center. It turned out to be a multi-alarm fire, and a helicopter had to be called in to help extinguish the blaze.

Translation:

Since this morning, Moravian-Silesian firefighters have been fighting a large-scale auto wrecking yard fire in Ostrava-Vítkovice. 1,500 tons of salvage autos are burning in the area, and probably also plastics and tires, and thick smoke can be seen for several kilometers. City Hall and firefighters advised locals not to open their windows. Currently, there are one hundred firefighters on the spot, over 30 units of volunteer and professional firefighters, 58 cars, tankers and other specialized vehicles and helicopters. Around 12:30, firefighters began to get the fire under control, said their spokesman Lukáš Popp.

A special mobile chemical laboratory was also called to the site, which will measure the concentration of pollutants in the air, firefighters said on Twitter. “We are currently managing to get the fire under control. However, the intervention is complicated by the fact that a pile containing 1,500 tons of material from wrecked cars is burning. There are tires and plastics. It can burn somewhere inside the pile,” said Popp. The intervention is also complicated by high temperatures and wind.

Original, in Czech: cnn.iprima.cz [autoplay vid embedded at link]

As you can probably imagine, it was quite stinky in the city center today.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 4:17:37am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

So, a bit of excitement here in Ostrava this morning, where a major fire broke out at an auto wrecking yard not far from the city center. It turned out to be a multi-alarm fire, and a helicopter had to be called in to help extinguish the blaze.

Translation:

Original, in Czech: cnn.iprima.cz [autoplay vid embedded at link]

Oh, that sounds like fun. Guess it’s a good thing everyone is supposed to be wearing masks — oh wait…

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William Lewis  May 10, 2021 • 4:18:06am

re: #143 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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You better not have any pictures of a young gal sipping whisky through a straw…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 4:20:57am

re: #146 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

What gets me is that the GQP genuinely seem to think there is nothing wrong with this approach.

Because it is an Article of Faith that the election was a fraud and stolen.

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 4:23:02am

re: #149 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Oh, that sounds like fun. Guess it’s a good thing everyone is supposed to be wearing masks — oh wait…

People stopped wearing masks here about three weeks ago, at least outdoors, and as of today, shops and services have fully reopened and masks outdoors are officially no longer needed (though still required on public transit and indoor areas). I swung by my local shopping center on the way home and it was hopping, though indoor mask compliance was observed.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 4:27:09am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because it is an Article of Faith that the election was a fraud and stolen.

This is what saddens me. The Republicans have spent literal decades conditioning their believers that any time Democrats win, it’s because they cheated. They held up the corruption of old-school Chicago and New York City as examples of what happens when Democrats are in charge. Now all those decades of preparation have manifested in the actual belief that an actual federal election was stolen by invisible gremlins with no demonstrable evidence of any shenanigannery, and instead of being laughed off as the ridiculous and insane conspiracy it is, 70% of the Republican voting base believe it.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 4:30:33am

On a related note, Spotify has apparently detected that I am a part of the vast liberal conspiracy to replace White culture with wokeness. I’m starting to get ads in Spanish now.

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Belafon  May 10, 2021 • 4:33:40am

re: #135 Targetpractice

Apparently they thought that they were going to face absolutely no court challenges, no opposition to the laundry list of items they demanded be turned over to “investigate,” and that the Feds would just let all this go forward without keeping watch.

And I’m sure they thought they would immediately find something they could run to the press with, not reduced to looking for bamboo.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 4:36:13am

re: #153 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

This is what saddens me. The Republicans have spent literal decades conditioning their believers that any time Democrats win, it’s because they cheated.

Trump started setting this up in 2016 when he claimed he would have son the popular vote as well if the Democrats had not practiced massive voter fraud: a charge which was investigated and rejected.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 4:44:25am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump started setting this up in 2016 when he claimed he would have son the popular vote as well if the Democrats had not practiced massive voter fraud: a charge which was investigated and rejected.

Even in the 1990’s, I remember hearing my dad quoting the “Chicago motto”, “vote early, vote often,” when referring to local Democratic officials. Republicans and false accusations of voter fraud go back a long way, and as always, they’re rooted in a grain of truth; there is little doubt that 1960’s and 1970’s Chicago, the empire of Richard J. Daley, was a famously corrupt place.

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Belafon  May 10, 2021 • 4:44:29am

President Biden came into office promising to be a decent, competent and normal president. “Normal” in part entailed no incendiary tweets, no self-dealing for him and his family, and no staffing government with unqualified hacks. If those are the criteria, then he has succeeded.

But “normal” also means patient, often tedious and sometimes imperceptible statecraft. You pass legislation. The economy takes a couple steps forward, seems to hesitate and then continues on. The opposition party takes definitive stances on everything in proposed legislation, and then the White House tries to pick off allies. Major legislation takes months, not days or weeks…

Normal governance means the instant “take” and the premature prediction of doom are often wrong. Instantaneous analysis from people with little expertise and incomplete information might not be the most enlightening form of journalism. Biden understands that governance requires persistent messaging, patience, calm and an appreciation for detail and nuance. That’s what normal governance, at least good governance, entails. Maybe the media will catch on — with time.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 10, 2021 • 4:54:53am

re: #150 William Lewis

You better not have any pictures of a young gal sipping whisky through a straw…

Don’t worry, she was legal to drink. I’m not Matt Gaetz

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 4:57:21am

re: #157 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Even in the 1990’s, I remember hearing my dad quoting the “Chicago motto”, “vote early, vote often,” when referring to local Democratic officials. Republicans and false accusations of voter fraud go back a long way, and as always, they’re rooted in a grain of truth; there is little doubt that 1960’s and 1970’s Chicago, the empire of Richard J. Daley, was a famously corrupt place.

And that black voters in the South were criminally under-represented.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 4:59:29am

re: #158 Belafon

Opinion: Biden understands the pace of governance, the media not so much

Biden knows what he is doing.

Our press has been so spoiled by having a poo-flinging scandalmonger providing them with sensational but basically substance-free content on a near-daily basis that they have forgotten what their own job is supposed to be.

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A Mom Anon  May 10, 2021 • 5:14:29am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s rare to see actual journalism anymore. It’s all a hyped up version of a gossip rag. It reminds me of high school with a lot more money backing it up. I watch to keep up with the basics, but I end up turning the tv to Nat Geo Wild to watch the zoo, vet and National Parks shows. If the tv is even on. Our stupid media is a big part of the problem, every fucking story is told with a conservative slant. Why won’t Dems be more bipartisan? How will Dems compromise to give the GOP what they want? Etc, etc, just kill me…

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sagehen  May 10, 2021 • 5:16:33am
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Dread Pirate Ron  May 10, 2021 • 5:21:51am
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Dread Pirate Ron  May 10, 2021 • 5:27:31am
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Dread Pirate Ron  May 10, 2021 • 5:35:50am

re: #163 sagehen

Now I want a cheesesteak. I wonder when The Cheesesteak Shop* opens.

*I have no idea if they are traditional or some California abomination but I like them.

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jeffreyw  May 10, 2021 • 5:45:16am

Good morning!

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  May 10, 2021 • 5:45:54am

Morning all,

I get to go down to DeSadist World, uh I mean Florida(no disrespect to some of you) tomorrow. Nice 12 hour drive in front of me.

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 5:50:08am

GQP operative explains to corporate pacs how to lie to the public about resuming support for fascism.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 10, 2021 • 5:50:41am

re: #167 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

You’re a sadist, you know that right?
(2 more hrs until my fasting blood work is drawn and I am starving) :-)

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lawhawk  May 10, 2021 • 5:55:00am

re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Pulp Fiction dance has been widely imitated, but never ever duplicated:

Pulp Fiction - Dance Scene (HQ)

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 6:07:31am

This is what we have to be thinking about and preparing for. The GQP will not accept defeat in 2024, under any circumstances.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 6:11:24am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 6:13:19am

re: #157 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Even in the 1990’s, I remember hearing my dad quoting the “Chicago motto”, “vote early, vote often,” when referring to local Democratic officials. Republicans and false accusations of voter fraud go back a long way, and as always, they’re rooted in a grain of truth; there is little doubt that 1960’s and 1970’s Chicago, the empire of Richard J. Daley, was a famously corrupt place.

But even that was a lie. It dates back to the election of John F. Kennedy, who was trailing in Cook County counting of the election. Late returns came in causing the election in Cook, and therefore Illinois, to narrowly go to Kennedy.

Republicans then charged that Daley had somehow engaged in fraud (ballot box stuffing or manufacturing ballots).

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Belafon  May 10, 2021 • 6:15:24am
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 6:19:18am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

But even that was a lie. It dates back to the election of John F. Kennedy, who was trailing in Cook County counting of the election. Late returns came in causing the election in Cook, and therefore Illinois, to narrowly go to Kennedy.

Republicans then charged that Daley had somehow engaged in fraud (ballot box stuffing or manufacturing ballots).

That’s right, I think you mentioned that to me once before.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 6:23:00am

re: #172 No Malarkey!

They wouldn’t be building these backdoors into their “voting integrity” laws if they didn’t intend to use them. Make no mistakes about it. Stop the GOP in 2022 or its game over.

This is what I means when I said that our previous system based on mutual trust and goodwill has been burned to the ground and needs to be replaced with a much more robust and accountable system that does not allow political interests to manipulate outcomes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 6:24:14am

re: #175 Belafon

The 5 men in this photo each lost more than 20 years to the police, DA misconduct that wrongly convicted them

There are 100s more — mostly Black men, many still behind bars. Amid a racial reckoning, we aren’t we talking about this more?

I remember the initial pushback against even allowing DNA evidence to be used retroactively on old cases…probably because a lot of people knew what it would lead to and how bad it would look.

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 6:24:51am
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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 6:26:56am

re: #139 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

Which brings to mind this classic

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Every Laissez Fairyland Libertarians have tried to create collapsed.

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 6:26:56am
“It makes us look like idiots. Looking back, I didn’t think it would be this ridiculous. It’s embarrassing to be a state senator at this point.”

— Arizona state Sen. Paul Boyer (R), quoted by the New York Times, on the election “audit” being undertaken by state senate Republicans

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lawhawk  May 10, 2021 • 6:27:36am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The 5 men in this photo each lost more than 20 years to the police, DA misconduct that wrongly convicted them

There are 100s more — mostly Black men, many still behind bars. Amid a racial reckoning, we aren’t we talking about this more?

I remember the initial pushback against even allowing DNA evidence to be used retroactively on old cases…probably because a lot of people knew what it would lead to and how bad it would look.

The Innocence Project has worked on these kinds of cases for 20+ years now, and all they keep doing is finding cases where cops arrested and prosecutors convicted people improperly and those men (predominantly) lost decades of their life because of no actual evidence tying them to crimes alleged.

That one group has resulted in exonerations of over 200 people, and those 200+ people spent a combined 3,500+ years in prison.

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 6:32:38am

re: #181 Dangerman

— Arizona state Sen. Paul Boyer (R), quoted by the New York Times, on the election “audit” being undertaken by state senate Republicans

Paul, you and your fellow QAPers aren’t idiots.

You’re assholes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 6:38:21am

re: #173 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 6:39:12am

re: #153 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

This is what saddens me. The Republicans have spent literal decades conditioning their believers that any time Democrats win, it’s because they cheated. They held up the corruption of old-school Chicago and New York City as examples of what happens when Democrats are in charge. Now all those decades of preparation have manifested in the actual belief that an actual federal election was stolen by invisible gremlins with no demonstrable evidence of any shenanigannery, and instead of being laughed off as the ridiculous and insane conspiracy it is, 70% of the Republican voting base believe it.

They don’t all believe it
A good chunk know better and are just using it cause its effective

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 6:39:49am

re: #185 Dangerman

They don’t all believe it
A good chunk know better and are just using it cause its effective

“Don’t retreat, reload!”

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darthstar  May 10, 2021 • 6:45:14am
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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 6:46:35am

re: #171 lawhawk

On the subject of cinema, one of my students here, now a film critic, once asked me (after having seen Revenge of the Sith for the first time - yeah, a little behind schedule but she wasn’t a film critic when that was released), “How on earth did Anakin survive those injuries? I mean, those are pretty much fatal injuries, right?” to which I replied, “Plot armor, the greatest armor there is. IRL, he would likely have died in less than an hour, and even if got immediate medical attention, the rest of his life would’ve been quite short and spent in excruciating agony. Also, space magic.”

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 6:46:56am

re: #183 🌹UOJB!

Paul, you and your fellow QAPers aren’t idiots.

You’re assholes.

More to the point, they are fascists.

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 6:48:51am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

On the subject of cinema, one of my students here, now a film critic, once asked me (after having seen Revenge of the Sith for the first time - yeah, a little behind schedule but she wasn’t a film critic when that was released), “How on earth did Anakin survive those injuries? I mean, those are pretty much fatal injuries, right?” to which I replied, “Plot armor, the greatest armor there is. IRL, he would likely have died in less than an hour, and even if got immediate medical attention, the rest of his life would’ve been quite short and spent in excruciating agony. Also, space magic.”

Correct. “The Force”, i.e., Space Magic, was so strong in him he could survive injuries that would kill anyone else.

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A Cranky One  May 10, 2021 • 6:49:30am

I don’t want to be touched..

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 6:56:10am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 6:57:52am

re: #179 🌹UOJB!

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lawhawk  May 10, 2021 • 6:58:17am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

On the subject of cinema, one of my students here, now a film critic, once asked me (after having seen Revenge of the Sith for the first time - yeah, a little behind schedule but she wasn’t a film critic when that was released), “How on earth did Anakin survive those injuries? I mean, those are pretty much fatal injuries, right?” to which I replied, “Plot armor, the greatest armor there is. IRL, he would likely have died in less than an hour, and even if got immediate medical attention, the rest of his life would’ve been quite short and spent in excruciating agony. Also, space magic.”

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

His will to live was stronger than his injuries, but Padme lost the will to live despite just giving birth to two newborns who needed her love, guidance, and protection. That’s some serious fucking plot armor right there. They needed to kill her off to get Luke to his aunt and uncle, and for Leia to be Organa’s child.

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 6:58:26am

re: #190 No Malarkey!

Correct. “The Force”, i.e., Space Magic, was so strong in him he could survive injuries that would kill anyone else.

Of course. Triple amputation and being immolated, with resultant third and fourth degree burns over 100% of his body? No chance in hell without space magic.

Kind of a dick move by Obi-wan to just leave him there, though one could argue he simply couldn’t bring himself to put his former padawan out of his misery.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 7:00:06am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

Of course. Triple amputation and being immolated, with resultant third and fourth degree burns over 100% of his body? No chance in hell without space magic.

Kind of a dick move by Obi-wan to just leave him there, though one could argue he simply couldn’t bring himself to put his former padawan out of his misery.

Former padawan and his closest friend, the man he had fought alongside in hundreds of battles over years. If you are familiar with the The Clone Wars animated series, it does a really great job of showing the level of camaraderie that Obi-Wan and Anakin built together, and it really puts Obi-Wan’s raw emotion as the fight began in a new context.

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 7:01:39am

re: #194 lawhawk

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

His will to live was stronger than his injuries, but Padme lost the will to live despite just giving birth to two newborns who needed her love, guidance, and protection. That’s some serious fucking plot armor right there. They needed to kill her off to get Luke to his aunt and uncle, and for Leia to be Organa’s child.

There’s a fan theory that Palpatine drained Padme’s life energy to sustain Anakin during his surgery, using - again - space magic, in this case, Sith alchemy. Don’t know if that’s ever been made canon, though.

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 7:02:45am

re: #196 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Former padawan and his closest friend, the man he had fought alongside in hundreds of battles over years. If you are familiar with the The Clone Wars animated series, it does a really great job of showing the level of camaraderie that Obi-Wan and Anakin built together, and it really puts Obi-Wan’s raw emotion as the fight began in a new context.

The Clone Wars nicely fleshed out a lot of the backstory between Episodes II and III. I thought it was very well done for the most part.

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 7:02:54am
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Belafon  May 10, 2021 • 7:04:27am

re: #192 No Malarkey!

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It would actually be better to start one now, to give voters a chance to get used to the idea of voting for a different party.

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 7:07:48am

re: #198 Dr Lizardo

The Clone Wars nicely fleshed out a lot of the backstory between Episodes II and III. I thought it was very well done for the most part.

As I assume most people realize, Anakin is a Christ allegory, except for the turn to the dark side for a time. Prophesized savior, immaculately conceived, left for dead, resurrected, then fulfilled the prophecy by ending the reign of evil.

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 7:10:03am
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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 7:10:07am

re: #172 No Malarkey!

This is what we have to be thinking about and preparing for. The GQP will not accept defeat in 2024, under any circumstances.

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electoral-vote.com touched on this Saturday
timing and perspective are important

…something that we have said many times, namely that governance rests on the consent of the governed. There is absolutely no chance that if the election is stolen like this, the citizenry will shrug and say “Well, that’s the way it goes.” No, at that point the country would be on the cusp of Civil War v2.0. Exactly what that might look like, and whether or not the nation might be pulled back from the precipice, we don’t know, which puts us in the same position Lincoln and Davis were in 160 years ago. However, Joe Biden is not James Buchanan, even if they have the same initials. Election results are certified on Jan. 6, and his first term does not expire until Jan. 20, which means he would have two weeks to respond. He might well order House Republicans to be arrested and charged with insurrection. The remaining (Democratic) members would then have a quorum and could approve the election results.

That is just a guess, but it’s also probably the best insurance against such a maneuver. When the South commenced with secession in 1860, they hoped that the president (the former JB) would do nothing and that the North would decide it was not worth the time and energy to resist. These were plausible possibilities, even if the Confederates ultimately guessed wrong on the second one. Today’s Republicans might very well be willing to try a coup, regardless of how unethical and anti-democratic it might be. But can they really convince themselves that the president (the current JB) might plausibly sit on his hands, and that the American public might plausibly tolerate a stolen election? That could be the million-dollar question.

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jeffreyw  May 10, 2021 • 7:10:11am

re: #170 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

You’re a sadist, you know that right?
(2 more hrs until my fasting blood work is drawn and I am starving) :-)

You’re in luck - that was supper last night.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 7:12:12am

re: #200 Belafon

It would actually be better to start one now, to give voters a chance to get used to the idea of voting for a different party.

The problem is the GOP’s voters are too well trained.

After Donald Trump was elected, Nebraska state senator Laura Ebke abandoned the Republican Party and joined the Libertarian Party. Though she consistently polled well and was liked by her constituents, in the next election she was routed by the Republican candidate (the Democrats did not run a candidate in her district).

In Wyoming, a wingnut state senator even more to the right of Liz Cheney has filed to run in a primary against her. Considering the majority of Wyoming’s counties have voted to censure her, that guy will likely win. (The General Election in Wyoming is decided in the Republican Primary.)

Here the same is going on with Sen. Ben Sasse, though he is not up for election next time. His positions on the election will be held against him in 2024.

Gov. Pete Ricketts is all-in on the nonsense, as is our state attorney general, since they entered the suit to disenfranchise Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Georgia voters.

Ricketts is term-limited, and the likely candidate for the R party is more right-wing than Ricketts is, a hundred-millionaire agribusiness owner.

Conservatism is a religion, which is why a Republican voter will always pull the lever for the (R) candidate, even if that candidate is a Nazi, even if that candidate openly says “I love the poorly educated.”

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 7:12:26am

re: #201 No Malarkey!

As I assume most people realize, Anakin is a Christ allegory, except for the turn to the dark side for a time. Prophesized savior, immaculately conceived, left for dead, resurrected, then fulfilled the prophecy by ending the reign of evil.

It’s been pointed out that by simply killing Palpatine, Anakin is somehow entirely redeemed - despite the fact that as a Sith Lord, he was basically a one-man Einsatzgruppe, committing atrocities on a scale that would make Reinhard Heydrich say, “Dude, you need to chill.”

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 7:13:03am

re: #200 Belafon

It would actually be better to start one now, to give voters a chance to get used to the idea of voting for a different party.

No-one is going to vote for that party, and then none of them will be in office in 2024-25 when the GQP attempts it’s coup. Better they quietly keep themselves in office, to vote against making Trump dictator. Cheney spoke out, and next year she will be voted out of office by the Trumpists.

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 7:16:17am

re: #203 Dangerman

electoral-vote.com touched on this Saturday
timing and perspective are important

This is exactly what I fear, a civil war. The GQP is working up to it, with their violent rhetoric urging their constituents to arm themselves to resist “tyranny.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 7:16:54am
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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 7:17:07am

re: #199 No Malarkey!

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Fuck Bezos.

It’s time to impose a maximum wage on these arrogant assholes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 7:17:42am

I loved the first Star Wars movie (that, is part IV) and still think it is one of the best Science Fiction movies ever made, but progressively lost interest in further iterations of the series.

But my kids are big into them. I even took them to see The Force Awakens when it came out (2014)?, and watched the other ones on video with them. All okay but nothing I found memorable.

But have to admit that the last two episodes of Season 2 of The Mandalorian were pretty good as far as Star Wars offshoots go.

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 7:17:47am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

It’s been pointed out that by simply killing Palpatine, Anakin is somehow entirely redeemed - despite the fact that as a Sith Lord, he was basically a one-man Einsatzgruppe, committing atrocities on a scale that would make Reinhard Heydrich say, “Dude, you need to chill.”

Yes, Anakin is a very dark Christ.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 7:21:27am

re: #208 No Malarkey!

This is exactly what I fear, a civil war. The GQP is working up to it, with their violent rhetoric urging their constituents to arm themselves to resist “tyranny.”

Again, remember the key imagery of the Tea Party: an uprising against a foreign tyrant.

Except they made no distinction between an English King in London and a freely and democratically elected government in Washington D.C. if they did not agree with laws and policy.

If we have a large faction that is simply unwilling to accept any election results that don’t go their way, then they will see themselves as “patriots” justified in using all means to fight “tyranny”.

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lawhawk  May 10, 2021 • 7:21:33am

The nation in a nutshell. GOPers cling to their guns and Trump, but fear vaccines that keep them safe and can get the economy opening faster/safer if everyone goes and gets them ASAP.

The GOP will prolong the crisis, because they refuse to follow facts, reality, and science.

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 7:21:51am

re: #212 No Malarkey!

Yes, Anakin is a very dark Christ.

For me, it’s a mix of Christ and Greek tragedy…the “chosen one”, the great hero, who falls into darkness and then is redeemed through the love of his child (Luke, in this case) and not only turns away from evil, but destroys the source of evil.

Sophocles would’ve loved it.

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lawhawk  May 10, 2021 • 7:23:16am
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darthstar  May 10, 2021 • 7:23:44am

Found the story - 2014

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Belafon  May 10, 2021 • 7:23:54am
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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 7:24:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 7:26:17am

re: #219 No Malarkey!

ALERT: US Justice Dept says it expects to extend a plea agreement to former Trump Administration State Dept appointee Federico Klein in US Capitol Insurrection case

Keep those dogies rollin!

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 7:26:21am

re: #214 lawhawk

The nation in a nutshell. GOPers cling to their guns and Trump, but fear vaccines that keep them safe and can get the economy opening faster/safer if everyone goes and gets them ASAP.

The GOP will prolong the crisis, because they refuse to follow facts, reality, and science.

My wife plays a Scrabble like word game in Facebook. She told me she wishes she could turn off the comments because they are full of anti-vaccer misinformation.

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 7:27:16am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

ALERT: US Justice Dept says it expects to extend a plea agreement to former Trump Administration State Dept appointee Federico Klein in US Capitol Insurrection case

Keep those dogies rollin!

I hope he is getting a deal because he is flipping on higher ups in the insurrection.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 7:27:38am

re: #221 No Malarkey!

My wife plays a Scrabble like word game in Facebook. She told me she wishes she could turn off the comments because they are full of anti-vaccer misinformation.

The fact that people rely on the comments section of a game on Facebook to spread or obtain information on Covid and vaccinations says it all righ there

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 7:28:31am

re: #221 No Malarkey!

My wife plays a Scrabble like word game in Facebook. She told me she wishes she could turn off the comments because they are full of anti-vaccer misinformation.

Same here when I play chess or bridge on the Internet. Shut off the chat because I can’t tolerate any more QAnon shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 7:29:58am

re: #224 🌹UOJB!

Same here when I play chess or bridge on the Internet. Shut off the chat because I can’t tolerate any more QAnon shit.

I assume all the nut cases flock to these sites because they are un(der)moderated

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 10, 2021 • 7:30:15am

re: #88 🌹UOJB!

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Marijuana pushers?

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 7:31:18am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I assume all the nut cases flock to these sites because they are un(der)moderated

I got a warning from a “moderator” who did not like my anti-Q comments, accused me of shitposting…

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 7:31:41am

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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This whole affair makes it clear that when the GOP is faced with a choice between:

- A lifetime conservative who believes that Biden won the election
- A moderate Republican who is willing to say Trump won in order to gain power (even if she actually knows better)

they will go with the latter. If you don’t support Donald Trump’s lie that he won the election, you are basically no longer welcome in the Republican Party, no matter how conservative you are and have always been. All that matters is worshiping Trump.

electoral-vote.com today

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 7:34:29am

re: #218 Belafon

A hospital can charge for a pregnancy test. As long as capitalism is part of our medical care system, unnecessary tests and procedures to inflate your bill will be part of it.

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 7:34:34am

re: #210 🌹UOJB!

Fuck Bezos.

It’s time to impose a maximum wage on these arrogant assholes.

fwiw - it’s not wages / salary

if i remember correctly bezos takes less than 100k in salary
he could pay himself zero and it wouldnt matter

it’s all about stock value, being able to leverage against that value, and how that stock is/was acquired

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 7:34:39am
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lawhawk  May 10, 2021 • 7:37:09am

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

*facepalm*

For fucks sake, those Evangelicals aren’t supporting Israel because they want Israel to survive.

They are supporting Israel to fulfill their apocalyptic end times prophesies. Bibi and other right wingers are willing to overlook this because US support for Israel is critical in a region that still has lots of threats to Israel’s existence.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 10, 2021 • 7:37:24am

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 7:38:11am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 10, 2021 • 7:38:26am

re: #232 lawhawk

*facepalm*

For fucks sake, those Evangelicals aren’t supporting Israel because they want Israel to survive.

They are supporting Israel to fulfill their apocalyptic end times prophesies. Bibi and other right wingers are willing to overlook this because US support for Israel is critical in a region that still has lots of threats to Israel’s existence.

They want right-wing morons that they can use. Nothing delivers that better than evangelical Christianity.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 7:40:29am

re: #218 Belafon

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 7:41:38am

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Dermer knows damn well that has been the game plan ever since Booby Nincompoopo came to power.

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 7:43:51am

re: #235 Punish Domestic Terrorists

They want right-wing morons that they can use. Nothing delivers that better than evangelical Christianity.

If Trump directed his Pulpit Pimp Posse to tell the marks to pick their noses to show allegiance to The Big G’s Anointed King Over America they would do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 7:44:05am

re: #232 lawhawk

*facepalm*

For fucks sake, those Evangelicals aren’t supporting Israel because they want Israel to survive.

They are supporting Israel to fulfill their apocalyptic end times prophesies. Bibi and other right wingers are willing to overlook this because US support for Israel is critical in a region that still has lots of threats to Israel’s existence.

And out US conservatives are quick to equate anti-Israeli Government policy with anti-Semitism.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 7:48:37am

re: #221 No Malarkey!

My wife plays a Scrabble like word game in Facebook. She told me she wishes she could turn off the comments because they are full of anti-vaccer misinformation.

Can she report the commentators?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 7:50:01am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Can she report the commentators?

sounds pointless

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 7:51:37am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Can she report the commentators?

Pointless because in my experience most “moderators” are right wing wackos.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 7:55:17am

The Bizarre and Racist History of the BMI (Elemental at Medium)

The original measure was not intended to apply to individuals, just populations.

But unlike Quetelet, Keys and his colleagues set out to test which diagnostic tool was the best existing measure of body fat. In Keys’ landmark study, he and his fellow researchers hedged their findings significantly:

Again the body mass index […] proves to be, if not fully satisfactory, at least as good as any other relative weight index as an indicator of relative obesity. Still, if density is truly and closely (inversely) proportional to body fatness, not more than half of the total variance of body fatness is accounted for by the regression of fatness on the body mass index.

That is, the BMI was the strongest of three weak and imperfect measures (alongside water displacement and the use of skin calipers). Its claim to fame? Accurately diagnosing “obesity” about 50% of the time. As recently as 2011, that number held fast, as the Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology found that the BMI detected less than 50% of “obesity” cases in Black, white, and Hispanic women.

In Keys’ same landmark study, he renamed Quetelet’s Index the “Body Mass Index.” And with that, a statistician’s largely forgotten index entered the world of individual health care — directly counter to its inventor’s wishes.

(more)

Right now my BMI (as a sixty year-old white guy) is 17.6 (I gained a couple pounds from staying in during the pandemic)

nhlbi.nih.gov (BMI calculator for both US Customary and Metric)

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 7:57:00am

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A hospital can charge for a pregnancy test. As long as capitalism is part of our medical care system, unnecessary tests and procedures to inflate your bill will be part of it.

if we dont do the test and something happens we could get sued

so definitely do the $800 test to avoid the million dollar lawsuit

//

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 7:59:39am

He’s got to be doing this to feign insanity when the trials start!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 8:01:30am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And out US conservatives are quick to equate anti-Israeli Government policy with anti-Semitism.

תפסיק להעמיד פנים שאתה מייצג את היהדות העולמית אז. אתה מייצג את עצמך ואת שאר הנאצים במדינת ישראל ששונאים יהודים שלא נמצאים במדינת ישראל ורוצים שיהיה להם רע.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  May 10, 2021 • 8:02:58am

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Bizarre and Racist History of the BMI (Elemental at Medium)

The original measure was not intended to apply to individuals, just populations.

(more)

Right now my BMI (as a sixty year-old white guy) is 17.6 (I gained a couple pounds from staying in during the pandemic)

Hey, I weigh the same as I did 25 years ago, but now at 73 I am 5 foot eight not 5 foot 10. Somehow, I don’t think the BMI calculation compensates for or accommodates shrinkage with age and that doesn’t seem fair.

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 8:03:47am

Just a reminder of which side the Screw York Times really is when it comes to Trump!

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steve_davis  May 10, 2021 • 8:04:31am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I told my son to draw a heart for mom. He drew a butt. He gets me.

The image we have come to associate with a heart is actually based on a stylized female derriere.

i thought it was a not so stylized representation of vaginal lips.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 8:05:08am
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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 8:05:17am

re: #247 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Hey, I weigh the same as I did 25 years ago, but now at 73 I am 5 foot eight not 5 foot 10. Somehow, I don’t think the BMI calculation compensates for or accommodates shrinkage with age and that doesn’t seem fair.

you’re not over-weight, you’re under-tall

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 8:05:35am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 8:06:27am

re: #247 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Hey, I weigh the same as I did 25 years ago, but now at 73 I am 5 foot eight not 5 foot 10. Somehow, I don’t think the BMI calculation compensates for or accommodates shrinkage with age and that doesn’t seem fair.

Since then, the cultural conversations about fatness, health, and respect reflect that significant failure in reporting. Views haven’t progressed, although the science has started to. In 2015, researchers at Harvard University and the University of Sheffield released a study identifying six different types of obesity, each of which had their own etiology and called for different types of treatment. By the next year, researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital had observed 59 different types. With so many types of fatness — and more being identified every year — what could the brutally oversimplified arithmetic of the BMI meaningfully contribute to our understanding and treatment of fat patients? As clinical psychiatry professor Sylvia R. Karasu, M.D., put it, “Despite all the progress we have made in science since Quetelet’s 19th century index, we are still far from being able to measure our body’s fat conveniently and accurately in a physician’s office.”

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steve_davis  May 10, 2021 • 8:07:23am

re: #118 Targetpractice

That’s what always causes me the loudest laughs, the idea that gold and/or cryptocurrencies are any sort of hedge against the collapse of fiat currency. Gold’s value is dependent upon what others will pay to acquire it, it has no inherent value that you can use to trade in it. If tomorrow the US were reduced to a barter economy (say the value of the dollar cratered), you might find that it takes a bag of gold coins for a single 16oz bottle of water.

“That’s not a fair trade!,” you say? Well, the guy with the water certainly thinks it is, and what he’s got to trade has value as a source of hydration. Your gold coins are little more than shiny paperweights if nobody wants them.

And cryptocurrency? HA! If you think gold is worthless, try trading in lines of code with that guy with the bottle of water.

“That’s not a a fair trade!” I tell him, and then vaporize him with a Mark V laser pistol.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 8:12:50am
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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 8:13:00am
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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 8:13:29am

re: #254 steve_davis

“That’s not a a fair trade!” I tell him, and then vaporize him with a Mark V laser pistol.

reminds me of this classic Twilight Zone episode!

Gold In The Future

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 10, 2021 • 8:16:04am

re: #167 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Western good morning!

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 8:18:27am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Can she report the commentators?

I don’t know.

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Citizen K  May 10, 2021 • 8:21:04am

Georgia looking to be functionally out of reach to us for the rest of my lifetime.

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 8:23:15am

re: #260 Citizen K

Georgia looking to be functionally out of reach to us for the rest of my lifetime.

Stacey Abrams has done great things there. Don’t count out the backlash effect.

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 8:24:12am

re: #257 🌹UOJB!

Ah, “The Rip van Winkle Caper”. I remember that one from my childhood.

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 8:25:30am

re: #255 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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actually, yes, we do know

‘you never know’ is a way to justify anything that isn’t science/factually based

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 8:30:49am

Sure Ron JohnsonWHACK-0!

Hunter Biden is involved with Covid.

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Belafon  May 10, 2021 • 8:31:11am

re: #261 No Malarkey!

Stacey Abrams has done great things there. Don’t count out the backlash effect.

Unless you had Democrats win Georgia on your 2020 card, it seems a little hard to argue that you know what’s going to happen there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 8:33:07am

re: #265 Belafon

Unless you had Democrats win Georgia on you 2020 card, it seems a little hard to argue that you know what’s going to happen there.

GOP probably did not see it coming either and they are going to do anything they consider necessary to prevent it from happening again…

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 8:33:29am

re: #264 🌹UOJB!

finishes off by blaming the media for not reporting on his baseless conspiracy theories

He says, ON A MEDIA OUTLET. What a fucking dumbass.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 8:36:18am

re: #267 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

He says, ON A MEDIA OUTLET. What a fucking dumbass.

Not dumbass, just cynical. He knows what he is saying and doing.

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 8:37:25am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not dumbass, just cynical. He knows what he is saying and doing.

Senator Fuckhead is merely following his Russian handler’s orders.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 8:38:28am
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Belafon  May 10, 2021 • 8:43:25am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 10, 2021 • 8:50:22am

re: #270 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Imagine being so dumb that you’d accept a report on a toddler, someone in a group not vaccinated, having a bad reaction to the vaccine, and getting upset about the imaginary death rather than pausing for half a second to think about the fact that the report is obviously bogus.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 8:52:37am

re: #272 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Imagine being so dumb that you’d accept a report on a toddler, someone in a group not vaccinated, having a bad reaction to the vaccine, and getting upset about the imaginary death rather than pausing for half a second to think about the fact that the report is obviously bogus.

Imagine about half of the people who get their news from Social Media feeds

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 8:52:44am

re: #272 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Imagine being so dumb that you’d accept a report on a toddler, someone in a group not vaccinated, having a bad reaction to the vaccine, and getting upset about the imaginary death rather than pausing for half a second to think about the fact that the report is obviously bogus.

Not dumb. Just an apparatchik following the Party line.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 8:53:42am

Although the article appears in the Daily Mail, Dr. Jennifer Gunter confirms the details (because she was the woman assaulted).

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 10, 2021 • 8:53:54am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Imagine about half of the people who get their news from Social Media feeds

We used to differentiate between news and gossip. Social media sites host gossip.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 8:55:34am

L. Lin Wood, Esq., is not having a good time.

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 8:57:53am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Imagine about half of the people who get their news from Social Media feeds

…and don’t question anything

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 8:57:57am

re: #277 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

L. Lin Wood, Esq., is not having a good time.

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If there’s anyone who genuinely needs a mental health examination, yeah….it’s L. Lin Wood.

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Citizen K  May 10, 2021 • 8:58:00am

re: #272 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Imagine being so dumb that you’d accept a report on a toddler, someone in a group not vaccinated, having a bad reaction to the vaccine, and getting upset about the imaginary death rather than pausing for half a second to think about the fact that the report is obviously bogus.

You have a significant portion of the country that believes that COVID is still “just the flu” and that we “just have to live with it”, but believe the vaccine is a highly contagious superbug capable of infecting and destroying all that you love by close proximity, and that lockdowns were more lethal than COVID itself because of all the crime and mass suicides they’re convinced it caused.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 10, 2021 • 8:59:02am

re: #261 No Malarkey!

Stacey Abrams has done great things there. Don’t count out the backlash effect.

Also, sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Dems have proved we’re not broke.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 9:00:04am

re: #278 Dangerman

…and don’t question anything

Like this danger who should have been removed years ago.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 10, 2021 • 9:03:24am
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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 9:03:37am

Because Texas. Though back in the nineties, there was a guy who kept a lion in his small backyard in Georgetown, Kentucky. The cage took up most of his yard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 9:03:39am

re: #276 Punish Domestic Terrorists

We used to differentiate between news and gossip. Social media sites host gossip.

That is what I don’t get. To me Social Media are for keeping in touch with family and friends, cute pet/kid pics and videos, bad puns and memes, and finding out about current events and gigs, etc.

Not for news.

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 9:05:36am

re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is what I don’t get. To me Social Media are for keeping in touch with family and friends, cute pet/kid pics and videos, bad puns and memes, and finding out about current events and gigs, etc.

Not for news.

Not even Fox News will broadcast the batshit crazy they get from Facebook.

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A Cranky One  May 10, 2021 • 9:08:10am

re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is what I don’t get. To me Social Media are for keeping in touch with family and friends, cute pet/kid pics and videos, bad puns and memes, and finding out about current events and gigs, etc.

Not for news.

Well, since most of that ” news” isn’t really news, your standard is met.

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lawhawk  May 10, 2021 • 9:08:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2021 • 9:08:56am

re: #286 No Malarkey!

Not even Fox News will broadcast the batshit crazy they get from Facebook.

I recall that my ex-GF got a headline on her FB Feed “Great Barrier Reef Declared Dead”. Even a cursory reading of the article indicated that was not the case at all, even though it was up to 20% damaged, the rate of loss had actually slowed over the past couple of years.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 10, 2021 • 9:09:18am

re: #282 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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lawhawk  May 10, 2021 • 9:10:34am

*chef’s kiss*

After locations closed due to lack of workers and people complaining about the risks being taken to provide food service, Chipolte responded by raising wages.

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A Cranky One  May 10, 2021 • 9:10:38am

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  May 10, 2021 • 9:23:40am

Does anyone else suspect that many business software and system failures are in fact deliberate, since they often work against the consumer?

For example, since their last massive upgrade failure, 2 months ago now, Lubbock Power and Light has been “unable” to provide “payment arrangements,” ie 3 week extensions, online. This city owned monopoly already had one of the most draconian collection policies in the country: 3 weeks past due, even with the arrangement, and it was lights out (water off first just to make sure the peasants wouldn’t try to rough it.)
Now, though, with the still unresolved “system issues,” the only way to get the pitiful extension is to call them on the DUE DATE ITSELF, or visit in person. Since a call involves an average 1 hour wait time (the same “system issues” again), this is impossible for most working people.

I was frankly skeptical of this when I first heard about it and decided to try it with my own small bill (on vacant commercial property). Sure enough, I was not eligible for an online extension and eventually was advised to visit one of their payment centers or call on the due date.

Texas Business Data Center
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 10, 2021 • 9:25:29am

2021 is shaping up to be quite the tropical year. Last month the strongest early typhoon on record occurred in westpac: Surigae sweeping past Philippines, after becoming strongest April typhoon on record

Now in the eastern Pacific, here on 10 May, there is a tropical storm: TROPICAL STORM ANDRES Definitely ahead of schedule for this part of the Pacific.

Earliest named tropical storm on Record In the eastern Pacific



..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 9:27:22am

Arizona regulator who oversees utility companies sent them conspiracy theories on COVID-19 vaccine (Via Archive Today, Arizona Republic, May 8, 2021)

“I’m also aware through other information that many people who have taken the shot, many thousands of people here in the U.S., are deceased. And the deceased part is the good news. And please don’t take that out of context. But the alternative to being deceased after the shot, there are something like 40,000 plus recorded cases of people that are now potted plants. They are human vegetables. They’ve lost their ability to function,” he said.

You’d never guess the guy is a Republican.

Arizona Corporation Commissioner Jim O’Connor, a Republican who was elected in November, told The Arizona Republic in an interview that the government and news media are covering up deaths and other harms caused by the shots.

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Belafon  May 10, 2021 • 9:28:23am

re: #276 Punish Domestic Terrorists

We used to differentiate between news and gossip. Social media sites host gossip.

Formally, yes. Informally, your friend with the latest cure for hiccups, or the moms setting up a chicken pox party, would share the information or remedies they learned.

What’s also happening now is that we’re kind of requiring people to know more than they used to have to, and most people don’t have the kind of time to keep up with it, so they rely on the people and sources they trust.

Edited

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 9:31:34am

re: #293 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Does anyone else suspect that many business software and system failures are in fact deliberate, since they often work against the consumer?

Since I work in business software and systems, I’m here to tell you that no, they are not deliberate. They are, however, deliberately ignored. It’s not quite for the reason you suspect - most of the time, it is not actual malice driving the decision, but simple petty accounting. Firms that employ in-house IT departments usually treat them as cost centers, meaning that other departments have to pay out of their budget to get IT services. Nobody wants to pay the (usually astronomical) IT rates to redesign their software, especially if it’s functioning well enough to continue to enable profit collection. Firms that outsource all their IT operations are even worse at this, because they would have to pay even more astronomical consultant rates to redesign their software, so their applications are stagnant for decades unless there is an actual threat to the business’s ability to function.

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 9:33:59am

re: #296 Belafon

Formally, yes. Informally, your friend with the latest cure for hiccups, or the moms setting up a chicken pox party, would share the information or remedies they learned.

What’s also happening now is that we’re kind of requiring people to know more than they used to have to, and most people don’t have the kind of friends to keep up with it, so they rely on the people and sources they trust.

I question everything i read or hear.
How can you not?

From that story above i checked and
I just learned there may be more tigers in texas than living wild worldwide

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Eventual Carrion  May 10, 2021 • 9:36:11am

re: #295 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Arizona regulator who oversees utility companies sent them conspiracy theories on COVID-19 vaccine (Via Archive Today, Arizona Republic, May 8, 2021)

You’d never guess the guy is a Republican.

Yes. Dear, sweet, 89 year old uncle Sal got the shot and died 3 weeks later. Fucking covid shot. The doctors gave him almost 2 months before the cancer would take him. His life was cut short because of the shot.

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Teukka  May 10, 2021 • 9:38:15am

re: #270 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
re: #272 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Imagine being so dumb that you’d accept a report on a toddler, someone in a group not vaccinated, having a bad reaction to the vaccine, and getting upset about the imaginary death rather than pausing for half a second to think about the fact that the report is obviously bogus.

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Imagine about half of the people who get their news from Social Media feeds

re: #274 🌹UOJB!

Not dumb. Just an apparatchik following the Party line.

re: #276 Punish Domestic Terrorists

We used to differentiate between news and gossip. Social media sites host gossip.

re: #278 Dangerman

…and don’t question anything

re: #280 Citizen K

You have a significant portion of the country that believes that COVID is still “just the flu” and that we “just have to live with it”, but believe the vaccine is a highly contagious superbug capable of infecting and destroying all that you love by close proximity, and that lockdowns were more lethal than COVID itself because of all the crime and mass suicides they’re convinced it caused.

re: #282 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Like this danger who should have been removed years ago.

re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is what I don’t get. To me Social Media are for keeping in touch with family and friends, cute pet/kid pics and videos, bad puns and memes, and finding out about current events and gigs, etc.

Not for news.

re: #286 No Malarkey!

Not even Fox News will broadcast the batshit crazy they get from Facebook.

re: #287 A Cranky One

Well, since most of that ” news” isn’t really news, your standard is met.

re: #296 Belafon

Formally, yes. Informally, your friend with the latest cure for hiccups, or the moms setting up a chicken pox party, would share the information or remedies they learned.
What’s also happening now is that we’re kind of requiring people to know more than they used to have to, and most people don’t have the kind of friends to keep up with it, so they rely on the people and sources they trust.

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall that my ex-GF got a headline on her FB Feed “Great Barrier Reef Declared Dead”. Even a cursory reading of the article indicated that was not the case at all, even though it was up to 20% damaged, the rate of loss had actually slowed over the past couple of years.

re: #298 Dangerman

I question everything i read or hear.
How can you not?

From that story above i checked and
I just learned there may be more tigers in texas than living wild worldwide

I think that what is at play here is that there are individuals that are so delusionally clinging on to the KoWit-19 iz au Hoaks! line that they see their own filing of fake death reports as just “hulpin’ troof alongg”, they are so convinced on {$scapegoat}’s and {$bogeyman}’s guilt that they “know” the evidence exist, they’re kinda sorta copying it.

These Covidiots are a clear and present danger to public health on a global scale.

*goes into corner, attempting to stop breathing fire*

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Belafon  May 10, 2021 • 9:39:05am

re: #298 Dangerman

I question everything i read or hear.
How can you not?

From that story above i checked and
I just learned there may be more tigers in texas than living wild worldwide

I figure most people can have about two things they do outside of work that they can give adequate attention to; some might squeeze in a third. For most people that tends to be family and television. I have traded most television for being online.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 9:40:13am

re: #300 Teukka

I think that what is at play here is that there are individuals that are so delusionally clinging on to the KoWit-19 iz au Hoaks! line that they see their own filing of fake death reports as just “hulpin’ troof alongg”, they are so convinced on {$scapegoat}’s and {$bogeyman}’s guilt that they “know” the evidence exist, they’re kinda sorta copying it.

These Covidiots are a clear and present danger to public health on a global scale.

*goes into corner, attempting to stop breathing fire*

Probably true. And that sort of misreporting (lying) makes it more difficult to tease out information which might be important to manufacturers (such as real adverse effects, or my wife regaining her sense of smell after many years without).

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 9:41:40am

re: #297 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Since I work in business software and systems, I’m here to tell you that no, they are not deliberate. They are, however, deliberately ignored. It’s not quite for the reason you suspect - most of the time, it is not actual malice driving the decision, but simple petty accounting. Firms that employ in-house IT departments usually treat them as cost centers, meaning that other departments have to pay out of their budget to get IT services. Nobody wants to pay the (usually astronomical) IT rates to redesign their software, especially if it’s functioning well enough to continue to enable profit collection. Firms that outsource all their IT operations are even worse at this, because they would have to pay even more astronomical consultant rates to redesign their software, so their applications are stagnant for decades unless there is an actual threat to the business’s ability to function.

in the 80’s a ran a timesharing back office accounting data center for some regional savings and loans.

it was a flat rate monthly fee. and we were not cheap.

things ran very smoothly and even though they were using the systems every day, sometimes we wouldnt get a phone call from a client for several months. not even a request to design a custom report.

so we’d muse about inserting a ‘bug’ of some kind just so they’d contact us and we could ‘remind’ them why they needed us, how good our service was etc.

never did of course. totally unethical.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 9:44:36am

A Proclamation on Peace Officers Memorial Day and Police Week, 2021 (White House)

Of note, both this year and last year the highest causes of death (1,2,3) of police officers are:

Covid-19
Firearms (almost all criminals)
Traffic accidents

The end of the proclamation includes a half-staff notice for Peace Officers Memorial Day (Saturday, May 15).

The statute which created Peace Officers Memorial Day places the flag at half-staff all day, unless it falls on the same day as Armed Forces Day (the second Saturday in May).

This year the days are the same.

As such, President Biden ordered the flag to half-staff as a mark of respect for all peace officers and the great toll Covid-19 has taken on them.

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 9:45:44am

lizard in the house!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  May 10, 2021 • 9:47:50am

re: #297 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Since I work in business software and systems, I’m here to tell you that no, they are not deliberate. They are, however, deliberately ignored. It’s not quite for the reason you suspect - most of the time, it is not actual malice driving the decision, but simple petty accounting. Firms that employ in-house IT departments usually treat them as cost centers, meaning that other departments have to pay out of their budget to get IT services. Nobody wants to pay the (usually astronomical) IT rates to redesign their software, especially if it’s functioning well enough to continue to enable profit collection. Firms that outsource all their IT operations are even worse at this, because they would have to pay even more astronomical consultant rates to redesign their software, so their applications are stagnant for decades unless there is an actual threat to the business’s ability to function.

At LP&L, both recent failures, the most recent one and another one two years ago, followed comprehensive system wide upgrades, basically completely new systems that went online before they were anywhere near ready. The 2019 upgrade was working reasonably well before the latest upgrade, although it took the better part of a year to get the bugs out. To the best of my knowledge, LP&L IT is in-house.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 9:47:53am

re: #303 Dangerman

in the 80’s a ran a timesharing back office accounting data center for some regional savings and loans.

it was a flat rate monthly fee. and we were not cheap.

things ran very smoothly and even though they were using the systems every day, sometimes we wouldnt get a phone call from a client for several months. not even a request to design a custom report.

so we’d muse about inserting a ‘bug’ of some kind just so they’d contact us and we could ‘remind’ them why they needed us, how good our service was etc.

never did of course. totally unethical.

I wonder how many hacked-together Excel spreadsheets those clients were using instead of calling you guys.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 9:48:23am

Idaho’s health board won’t take his license though.

Idaho Doctor Makes Baseless Claims About Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines (Fact Check dot Org)

A viral video features a doctor making dubious claims about COVID-19 vaccines and treatments at a forum hosted by Idaho’s lieutenant governor. Dr. Ryan Cole claims mRNA vaccines cause cancer and autoimmune diseases, but the lead author of the paper on which Cole based that claim told us there is no evidence mRNA vaccines cause those ailments.

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 9:48:46am

re: #302 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Probably true. And that sort of misreporting (lying) makes it more difficult to tease out information which might be important to manufacturers (such as real adverse effects, or my wife regaining her sense of smell after many years without).

Has she made you take a shower yet?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 9:50:34am

re: #308 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Cole is featured in a video that has amassed more than a million views. He makes a variety of claims, some of which we’ve addressed before.

The video was recorded while he spoke at a forum on March 4 hosted by Idaho’s lieutenant governor, Janice McGeachin, a Republican, and it was posted by a Libertarian organization called the Idaho Freedom Foundation.

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2021 • 9:51:07am

Anonymous petitioners want the Arizona Supreme Court to put them in charge of Arizona for reasons.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 9:52:30am

re: #309 Dangerman

Has she made you take a shower yet?

She didn’t make me, but she said I could.

She’s been going around the house smelling things and re-associating the smell with what the thing is. “This is rosemary, this is bacon, that is a feedlot” &c.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2021 • 9:53:31am

re: #278 Dangerman

…and don’t question anything

except for actual, you know, facts.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 10, 2021 • 9:55:23am

re: #307 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

I wonder how many hacked-together Excel spreadsheets those clients were using instead of calling you guys.

Hacked together spreadsheets are Business Intelligence now. We load professional-looking reporting systems from spreadsheets on OneDrive shares these days when the data does not exist in a database.

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DesertDenizen  May 10, 2021 • 9:55:24am

re: #311 No Malarkey!

Anonymous petitioners want the Arizona Supreme Court to put them in charge of Arizona for reasons.

[Embedded content]

I’m honestly shocked not to see a certain set of initials on that list. Our local county Republican party chair was party to previous lawsuits, and this sort of fascist crazy is right up his alley.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 10:02:24am

re: #315 DesertDenizen

I’m honestly shocked not to see a certain set of initials on that list. Our local county Republican party chair was party to previous lawsuits, and this sort of fascist crazy is right up his alley.

For some reason, the names on the Google Drive document are blacked out.

WTP v Ducey et. al.

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🌹UOJB!  May 10, 2021 • 10:05:33am

re: #316 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

For some reason, the names on the Google Drive document are blacked out.

WTP v Ducey et. al.

The case should be named WTF v. Ducey

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 10:05:41am

re: #307 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

I wonder how many hacked-together Excel spreadsheets those clients were using instead of calling you guys.

not a lot
mid 80’s
the pc was still new
excel was barely a year old

Bank Controllers didnt want to muck around with that stuff then.
they wanted their ledgers up to date and their daily reports daily.
they wanted to be CFOs, not IT geeks

so we sold the service as we’ll be responsible for everything - ‘your IT department, just in a different building/town/county’

in ‘86 we added a kind of DOS service right through their dumb terminals. (wyse 100’s?)
they could feel like they had DOS on their desks but none of them wanted to spend their day doing that kind of stuff. They just called us and we wrote it.

We had a cluster of VAX/VMS machines to which we added a separate box of ganged early PC motherboards. It connected to the LAN and some software ran on the VAX to talk to it. the clients never knew how we did it.

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Dangerman  May 10, 2021 • 10:06:38am

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She didn’t make me, but she said I could.

She’s been going around the house smelling things and re-associating the smell with what the thing is. “This is rosemary, this is bacon, that is a feedlot” &c.

no honey, i always smelled this way….

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lawhawk  May 10, 2021 • 10:08:19am
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DesertDenizen  May 10, 2021 • 10:08:20am

re: #316 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

For some reason, the names on the Google Drive document are blacked out.

WTP v Ducey et. al.

Weird. On Twitter they aren’t, so I cruised the list. Also, for this case to make sense they should be aiming at everyone in office, not just Democrats and “RINOS”. For instance, they’re going after four of the five Corporation Commissioners, but not the freshly elected one spreading COVID vaccine lies as noted upthread.

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KGxvi  May 10, 2021 • 10:10:57am

re: #315 DesertDenizen

I’m honestly shocked not to see a certain set of initials on that list. Our local county Republican party chair was party to previous lawsuits, and this sort of fascist crazy is right up his alley.

A case with, oh, two dozen in pro per plaintiffs? Yeah, that’s not going to be a complete and total shit show. Not at all. Especially since that complaint reads like someone skipped out on PoliSci 100 and is just trying to bullshit their way through the final.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 10:11:29am

Keep this in mind when the villagers keep asking President Biden why he’s wearing a mask. This CBS reporter tweeted this when Covid-19 was running rampant through former President Trump’s staff.

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DesertDenizen  May 10, 2021 • 10:12:46am

re: #322 KGxvi

A case with, oh, two dozen in pro per plaintiffs? Yeah, that’s not going to be a complete and total shit show. Not at all. Especially since that complaint reads like someone skipped out on PoliSci 100 and is just trying to bullshit their way through the final.

Who also want to remain anonymous? Talk about wanting it both ways. But either they’re too cheap to hire an actual attorney or they couldn’t find one crazy enough to run this bullshit. This being Arizona I’m going with the former.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 10:13:01am

re: #322 KGxvi

A case with, oh, two dozen in pro per plaintiffs? Yeah, that’s not going to be a complete and total shit show. Not at all. Especially since that complaint reads like someone skipped out on PoliSci 100 and is just trying to bullshit their way through the final.

From reading through some of the sources on Twitter (I didn’t look at the document itself), it looks like it’s basically in re Gondor II: Electric Boogaloo. And we all know the original in re Gondor was bugfuck nuts.

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KGxvi  May 10, 2021 • 10:19:02am

re: #320 lawhawk

The basic level of competency and professionalism has plummeted.

Deteriorating professionalism has been a problem for a while. I blame, in part, the insurance defense industrial complex - fewer and fewer attorneys care about the people involved in cases, and it’s all about numbers.

Competency is a problem - likely at bigger firms - because of the way they are run. If you’re a first year litigation attorney at a bigger firm, you might not see the inside of a courtroom for three years (I literally went to countless status conferences where partners were showing up for big firms to tell the judge “we’re still doing discovery, can we trail this for 60 days?”), it might be another year or two before you get to second chair a trial. Hard to be competent when you don’t get the opportunity to actually do stuff.

And that doesn’t even get into the “you need to work 80 hours a week to bill 30 hours to make partner” lifestyle that burn out countless people. Hell, I never worked at a big firm and burned out (twice) within a decade. Practicing law, the way it works now, is not a healthy lifestyle.

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 10, 2021 • 10:21:10am

Remember that glass bottomed bridge?

He was sent to the hospital & received psych counseling.

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KGxvi  May 10, 2021 • 10:21:41am

re: #324 DesertDenizen

Who also want to remain anonymous? Talk about wanting it both ways. But either they’re too cheap to hire an actual attorney or they couldn’t find one crazy enough to run this bullshit. This being Arizona I’m going with the former.

Yeah, considering they’re all going to have to give an address where they can be served with documents, they’re not going to get to stay anonymous. And I’m guessing it’s a little from column A, a little from column B.

re: #325 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

From reading through some of the sources on Twitter (I didn’t look at the document itself), it looks like it’s basically in re Gondor II: Electric Boogaloo. And we all know the original in re Gondor was bugfuck nuts.

I skimmed the complaint, because I am a sick, sick, sick person. If crazy = good, then this is Godfather II to in re Gondor’s Godfather.

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danarchy  May 10, 2021 • 10:22:14am

re: #272 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Imagine being so dumb that you’d accept a report on a toddler, someone in a group not vaccinated, having a bad reaction to the vaccine, and getting upset about the imaginary death rather than pausing for half a second to think about the fact that the report is obviously bogus.

Not supporting the original post, haven’t even read it, but pfizer has started clinical trials on children between 6months and 12 years, so some toddlers have probably received the vaccine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2021 • 10:25:48am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  May 10, 2021 • 10:25:58am

re: #327 HRH Stanley Sea

Remember that glass bottomed bridge?

[Embedded content]

He was sent to the hospital & received psych counseling.

Instant cure for constipation.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 10:31:36am

re: #331 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Instant cure for constipation.

That bridge was already on my NOPE list. This incident made that addition permanent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2021 • 10:34:52am

It’s past my bedtime, y’all. Catch y’all later.

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2021 • 10:36:09am

re: #327 HRH Stanley Sea

Remember that glass bottomed bridge?

[Embedded content]

He was sent to the hospital & received psych counseling.

After presumably being given a fresh change of underwear.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2021 • 10:38:25am
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William Lewis  May 10, 2021 • 10:42:33am

re: #292 A Cranky One

[Embedded content]

That’s a reboot I could go for. Especially if she sings at least one song per episode kinda like Phineas and Ferb.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2021 • 10:44:00am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2021 • 10:48:31am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

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William Lewis  May 10, 2021 • 10:51:42am

re: #318 Dangerman

To kiddies who grew up with PC’s and even sometimes Unix, VAX VMS is one of the most underrated systems out there. They knew that IBM big iron did it’s magic out there but they never got just how powerful DEC really was in it’s time and place. There are still more than a few factories (and missile silos!!!) running on PDP-11’s and after 9/11 there was a serious market for replacement hardware for very high end VAXen because some of the worlds biggest users were located in the twin towers.

I’d dearly love a to get a VAX 4000 and run BSD 4.4 on it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2021 • 10:52:06am
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  May 10, 2021 • 10:53:55am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe he should generate an NFT for it and auction it off. *snicker*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2021 • 10:53:58am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 10, 2021 • 11:14:51am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth


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