The New York Times Lays It All Out: How Trump Supporters Took the U.S. Capitol (Full Video)

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:16:20pm

As part of your application to become an associate with us, please submit an essay of no less than 500 words on the theme of “gettin’ jiggy with it.”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:21:29pm

Wut?

Update! A poster has produced an answer, so it is the same old batshit after all rather than a new strain.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:22:14pm

Last thing on the Media Bias Report then I’ll let that go.

They have Bill Kristol’s The Bullwark, NBC, CNN, the Washington Post and New York Times in the “skews left” category.

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sagehen  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:22:18pm

So the NYT can, in fact, do serious accurate coverage. When they feel like it.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:22:24pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Wut?

That’s top tier stuff.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:33:21pm

That little old WHINEmaker…she…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:35:38pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:38:49pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Wut?

The fearless lions and wolves who are already terrified of sex, kissing, touching, close contact, magnets and masks add another mortal fear to their list…

Food.

You know, I’m not going to lose much sleep if antivaxxers decide that starvation is the way to avoid the vaccine. Have at it Hoss.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:48:16pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So, looking around, “dancer” seems to be the latest code word for “sane people, as in get vaccines for serious diseases.”

There are also not an insignificant number of covidiots who [claim] will not get a blood transfusion if needed.

Antivaxxers are turning more and more into a religion every day.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:49:02pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:54:31pm

I watched this entire video. It is terrifying.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:59:26pm

re: #11 The Pie Overlord!

I watched this entire video. It is terrifying.

I’m watching it now. Very touristy. Much patriot.

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Dangerman  Jul 1, 2021 • 7:59:55pm

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:03:49pm

re: #11 The Pie Overlord!

I watched this entire video. It is terrifying.

It really is.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:12:44pm

LAPD needs a new bomb truck….

Iframe

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:12:45pm

I’m watching Peter Baker on Brian Williams. He’s making good points at first, and then drifts into, “otoh….othoh” territory. Laser focused on the politics and in no way focused on the criminality of the Trump family.

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sagehen  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:21:23pm

August 21 — WE’RE OPEN AGAIN free concert in Central Park.

Bruce Springsteen
Paul Simon
Jennifer Hudson
more acts TBA

(they have to invite Jay-Z and Beyonce, right? and Alicia Keys. maybe J-Lo. just trying to think of the New Yorkiest acts…. (which J-Hud isn’t, she’s a Chicago girl, but still)

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JOE 🥓  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:23:07pm

Gee, I wonder why it took soooooooo looooooooonnnnggg??????

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:26:50pm
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marcusgorillius  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:28:29pm

Watched the whole video, scarey stuff. Just unbelievable that the capitol was so lightly defended. The National Guard and every other law enforcement agency should have been on standby that morning. A lot of people in congress and law enforcement were in on this.Maybe Pelosi’s commission can get to the bottom of it. Heads should roll and people should be going to prison.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:28:39pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I guess I shouldn’t have quit Cubs.

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wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:28:58pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

The Boy Scouts of America has $850 million?

Not anymore.

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sagehen  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:32:54pm

re: #21 marcusgorillius

Watched the whole video, scarey stuff. Just unbelievable that the capitol was so lightly defended. The National Guard and every other law enforcement agency should have been on standby that morning. A lot of people in congress and law enforcement were in on this.Maybe Pelosi’s commission can get to the bottom of it. Heads should roll and people should be going to prison.

It’s unfortunate the technical, legal definition of treason is so much narrower than the vernacular usage. ‘Cause there’s people should hang for this.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:33:43pm

re: #11 The Pie Overlord!

I watched this entire video. It is terrifying.

What’s especially frightening is how close they came to actually reaching the legislators. Who knows what they would have done? And these people are still here, waiting for another call to seize control.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:35:10pm

re: #23 jaunte

I guess I shouldn’t have quit Cubs.

I flunked out of Cub Scouts.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:35:55pm

re: #25 sagehen

It’s unfortunate the technical, legal definition of treason is so much narrower than the vernacular usage. ‘Cause there’s people should hang for this.

I keep coming back to the images from the BLM protest over the summer. Talk about bias…

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William Lewis  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:36:43pm

re: #24 wrenchwench

Not anymore.

Not enough though; they haven’t been driven into the ground, their headquarters razed and the ground salted.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:38:03pm

re: #27 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yeah. Our den-mother couldn’t take it any more, so I think I actually was fired.

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darthstar  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:45:12pm

The best thing about that clip of Eric Trump ranting on Newsmax is how he goes down a list of hypothetical crimes that the Trump kids “aren’t” committing which includes selling state secrets to foreign nations. Didn’t his bitch sister have national security clearance?

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sagehen  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:55:30pm

Or when he whines that he and his sibs had been in business (working for their dad) before their dad went into politics… but Hunter only went into business after his dad got involved in politics.

For the record, Biden’s first Senate win was 1972. Hunter was 2 years old.

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darthstar  Jul 1, 2021 • 8:57:08pm

re: #32 sagehen

For the record, Biden’s first Senate win was 1972. Hunter was 2 years old.

So what was he doing? Just living off his dad?

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SerialUpDinger  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:03:47pm

Buckwheat and Penny For Scale

This plant blooms along southern California trails in the summer. Amazing how much of the natural world evolved without us.
For my part of this image - I found a bloom with a leaf nearby. This makes it easier to identify (many of this species have similar flowers but differing leaves)

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:20:09pm
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DesertDenizen  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:25:35pm

re: #35 Dave In Austin

That takes courage. Mojave Greens have a reputation for being mean.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:30:15pm

Dude, this video is fucking harrowing. We’re… kind of fucked, huh.

Fuck, man.

Here. I can counter these extremely menacing vibrations. Tenacious D totally just did a thing.

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mmmirele  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:37:03pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Quite possibly.

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gocart mozart  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:40:00pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:42:43pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:46:58pm

Wow. The Times video is a must watch. I avoided most of the footage until now. So much anger, they crushed to death one of their own. I think they should have mentioned how many have been arrested so far.

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:47:35pm

re: #39 gocart mozart

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…da fuq?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:55:32pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Perhaps I should be happy I was kicked out over atheism. That many people involved in a settlement seems to indicate the organisation works the same way the Catholic Church does.

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gocart mozart  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:57:59pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

It was inevitable.

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gocart mozart  Jul 1, 2021 • 9:58:52pm

I’m a gonna try to be there at some point in August yet to be determined.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:02:16pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:10:49pm

re: #44 gocart mozart

It was inevitable.

It was. Their failure to install their God-Emperor has left them with little wiggle room, as there is simply too much visual and audio evidence to buy into the “peaceful protestors” horseshit for any length of time. And since nobody with a lick of intelligence believes for a second that the participants were all “Antifa” or “BLM,” then there’s only one choice left: Gaslight the fuck out of people by telling them that it was all staged and everybody was really an actor (including the people confirmed as being deceased).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:12:10pm

Revealed: ExxonMobil’s lobbying war on climate change legislation (Channel 4 News UK)

A senior ExxonMobil lobbyist has been captured on camera revealing how the oil giant is using its power and influence to water down US climate legislation.

The explosive footage was obtained by Unearthed, Greenpeace UK’s investigative platform, who posed as head-hunters to obtain the information from one of ExxonMobil’s most senior Washington lobbyists.

The recordings appear to reveal the secretive behind-the-scenes activities of a lobbyist for a company that claims in public to support action on climate change, while fighting against legislative attempts to tackle it.

ExxonMobil say they “have supported climate science for decades” and accuse Greenpeace of “waging a multi-decade campaign” against their company and industry.

(more, with video, 8:52)

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JOE 🥓  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:13:44pm

re: #47 Targetpractice

It was. Their failure to install their God-Emperor has left them with little wiggle room, as there is simply too much visual and audio evidence to buy into the “peaceful protestors” horseshit for any length of time. And since nobody with a lick of intelligence believes for a second that the participants were all “Antifa” or “BLM,” then there’s only one choice left: Gaslight the fuck out of people by telling them that it was all staged and everybody was really an actor (including the people confirmed as being deceased).

Including THE IDIOT RELATIVE in Uncle Sam’s B&B who insists that he will be pardoned by Trump when Mango Mussoweeney is back in the White House on August 15th…problem is THE IDIOT RELATIVE ain’t an actor, but it is a jerk…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:19:15pm

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

According to the article, the biggest “fish” that ExxonMobil caught was Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV). Other senators include ten other senators Chris Coons, Maggie Hassan, John Tester, Kyrsten Sinema, Mark Kelly, named as “crucial.”

No senator would respond to questions from Channel 4.

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plansbandc  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:19:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:24:58pm

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

ExxonMobil did respond, saying Mr. McCoy was mischaracterised. In the video, he says he knows those ten senators (including the Democrats listed) do not have the political courage to do what’s needed.

He also notes that delaying electric car technology is critical to ExxonMobil’s shareholders, beyond ten years. Climate scientists generally argue aggressive action is needed in ten years.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:28:48pm

During the covert recordings, which have been passed to Channel 4 News, Mr McCoy claims:

the company secretly fought against legislative action on climate change using third-party organisations
he lobbied key senators to remove and/or diminish climate change measures from President Biden’s US $2 trillion infrastructure and jobs bill as it proceeds through the legislative process
he regards trade bodies like the American Petroleum Institute as “whipping boys” in order to avoid public scrutiny on Capitol Hill

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:31:03pm

Sigh… my old iMac has a recurring problem, where the PRAM seems to get messed up.

So on restart it can’t find the solid-state boot device.

So I have to go through the hassle of powering off, resting a little bit, power on with the command+option+p+r to reset the PRAM.

Then boot from the recovery disk.

Then set the boot device to my SSD.

Then restart again.

It works, but I wonder what is stepping all over the PRAM?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:32:12pm

Also noted rebooting this time, the MRT application hung around for longer than expected. I wonder if there was some malware lurking on my Mac?

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ckkatz  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:32:39pm

From a couple of threads ago..

Congratulations! I know that you have been working very hard to get to this point.

re: #46 I Would Prefer Not To

pic of me onstage
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:33:53pm

Christian Preacher Knows Why Oprah And Tom Hanks Won’t Sue Him For Saying They’re Child Molesters (Wonkette, by Robyn Pennacchia)

Last week, noted Trump prophet Greg Locke went on quite the rant, re: his belief that Joe Biden is a “demon-possessed pedophile” like Oprah, Tom Hanks and the pope. He said the aforementioned were involved in child sex trafficking, via the use of tunnels underneath the White House. And as kooky as that sounds, clearly all the members of his congregation were on board.

The rest of the world, however, not so much. The sermon went viral due to the sheer number of people mocking it across the internet, and Locke took notice.

(more)

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:37:07pm

re: #49 JOE 🥓

Including THE IDIOT RELATIVE in Uncle Sam’s B&B who insists that he will be pardoned by Trump when Mango Mussoweeney is back in the White House on August 15th…problem is THE IDIOT RELATIVE ain’t an actor, but it is a jerk…

Oh, everybody who might possibly be a “snitch” is viewed as an “actor” by these goobers. They’re so gripped by paranoia that they’re presently engaged in mental reviews of every email, text message, and video chat they had in the past year with other “patriots” that they haven’t heard from since 1/6. Trying to mentally decide if “TRUMPPATRIOT76” was really Special Agent Mike Smith trying to talk them into a “trap.”

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:46:00pm

My Surprised Face, etc. etc. etc.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:46:16pm
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mmmirele  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:46:18pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Christian Preacher Knows Why Oprah And Tom Hanks Won’t Sue Him For Saying They’re Child Molesters (Wonkette, by Robyn Pennacchia)

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(more)

I can tell that asshat Greg Locke why they won’t sue…because they don’t want to give him any more notoriety than he already has. Plus, to be blunt, we cut way, way, WAY too much slack to “men of the cloth” in this country. (I still think the Catholic bishops should all be in prison.)

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:51:58pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

This is from a rightoids channel… JMS (Bless The Great Maker) responded to those who didn’t see the parallels between Trump and Clark with “If you support Trump and like Babylon 5, you didn’t understand the story”…

Even In The Furture The Liberal Media Elite Is Still Going Strong

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piratedan  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:54:13pm

while I understand that we’re a nation of laws and that a good many of the people who participated in the events of 1/6/21 are idiots who we’ve been having their skulls filled with crap for days/months/years/decades… there are times when I wonder just how many of them could be/would be saved with the shutting down of the RW propaganda machine.

As for other thoughts, I wish every federal judge who gets one of these very fine people into their courtrooms gets a chance to watch this video first because for damn sure, a good many of them haven’t.

and while we’re seeing mostly those trespassers come into play, I surely do want to see those that organized, paid, and planned this go down, be they lawmakers or pastors or pullers of strings, I want them all rounded up and brought to justice. Call it what it was, treason en masse, assault, trespassing, rioting and all at the behest of a bunch of fascists led by a narcissist.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:55:55pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:56:12pm

re: #63 Teukka

This is from a rightoids channel… JMS (Bless The Great Maker) responded to those who didn’t see the parallels between Trump and Clark with “If you support Trump and like Babylon 5, you didn’t understand the story”…

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From the same people who claim to be Star Trek fans, yet scream any time it’s announced that a character will be a woman or a topic like homosexuality will be addressed that the series is “woke.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2021 • 10:58:09pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

From the same people who claim to be Star Trek fans, yet scream any time it’s announced that a character will be a woman or a topic like homosexuality will be addressed that the series is “woke.”

The series has always been “woke” going back to the 60s. MLK was a huge fan.

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:03:15pm

re: #64 piratedan

while I understand that we’re a nation of laws and that a good many of the people who participated in the events of 1/6/21 are idiots who we’ve been having their skulls filled with crap for days/months/years/decades… there are times when I wonder just how many of them could be/would be saved with the shutting down of the RW propaganda machine.

As for other thoughts, I wish every federal judge who gets one of these very fine people into their courtrooms gets a chance to watch this video first because for damn sure, a good many of them haven’t.

and while we’re seeing mostly those trespassers come into play, I surely do want to see those that organized, paid, and planned this go down, be they lawmakers or pastors or pullers of strings, I want them all rounded up and brought to justice. Call it what it was, treason en masse, assault, trespassing, rioting and all at the behest of a bunch of fascists led by a narcissist.

PSST! I never showed you this here Wikipedia page: Collective narcissism

Cue wingnut comments of “Luuk ad de Commuenists! They’re trying 2 maek opositionn bonkers!”

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:03:46pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

From the same people who claim to be Star Trek fans, yet scream any time it’s announced that a character will be a woman or a topic like homosexuality will be addressed that the series is “woke.”

And totally fail to see what the Ferengi are a parody of…

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:05:06pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:05:54pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m the one who doesn’t hang around here much any more.

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ckkatz  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:08:43pm

Snark from Ken White:

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:08:44pm

re: #69 Teukka

And totally fail to see what the Ferengi are a parody of…

My friend the “reasonable conservative” who I chat with frequently can’t understand how episodes with the Ferengi are still being shown on TV because (wait for it) he’s convinced that they’re a play on stereotypes about Jews. And is confused why those episodes haven’t been banned by “cancel culture.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:17:49pm

re: #71 stpaulbear

I’m the one who doesn’t hang around here much any more.

You should though. You have 47,351 karma points. At 50,000, the LGF rewards catalogue has better gifts, I’m told.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:23:17pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You should though. You have 47,351 karma points. At 50,000, the LGF rewards catalogue has better gifts, I’m told.

Memories of S&H Green Stamps, Top-Val-U and Plaid stamps given out by the various gas stations and supermarkets when I was a kid. Remember those Sunday afternoons when I’d be licking those stamps and putting them in the booklets. We kept them in 3 separate boxes and when Mom got 50 books filled it was off to the redemption center for a set of glasses, towel or sheet set and then there was the time we had 75 books filled and got a record player…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:28:26pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

My friend the “reasonable conservative” who I chat with frequently can’t understand how episodes with the Ferengi are still being shown on TV because (wait for it) he’s convinced that they’re a play on stereotypes about Jews. And is confused why those episodes haven’t been banned by “cancel culture.”

Ever since the Ferengi appeared on Star Trek: The Next Generation, it has been alleged that they were cast as Jews, from the mediæval and modern stereotypes around them.

This has been repeatedly debunked by producers, writers, and actors on the show (which shows how deep the conspiracy is, because they are all in on it).

Ferengi have also been used in pretty awful memes by Nazis more recently (no link to those for obvious reasons).

See also Watto from “The Phantom Menace” and “Attack of the Clones.”

Sometimes a greedy hypercapitalist merchant is just a greedy hypercapitalist merchant.

See also Space Jews (Goes to TVTropes, not to be confused with “Jews in Space”)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:34:13pm

re: #75 JOE 🥓

Memories of S&H Green Stamps, Top-Val-U and Plaid stamps given out by the various gas stations and supermarkets when I was a kid. Remember those Sunday afternoons when I’d be licking those stamps and putting them in the booklets. We kept them in 3 separate boxes and when Mom got 50 books filled it was off to the redemption center for a set of glasses, towel or sheet set and then there was the time we had 75 books filled and got a record player…

The last time I had anything to do with S&H Green Stamps when I redeemed books when I was stationed in Jacksonville (just before S&H shut down). I got a rolling microwave cart.

When I was a kid, my grandmother collected both Top Value stamps (from the local grocer) and S&H Green Stamps (when we had to go into town).

It was a real pain-in-the-ass to lick the 1 stamps and put them in the books. It was a rare treat to be punished with 50 stamps (which counted for a whole page).

Sperry & Hutchinson was recently purchased and they plan to relaunch the stamp programme.

At one point, S&H boasted they printed three times as many stamps per year as the Post Office.

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:41:24pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ever since the Ferengi appeared on Star Trek: The Next Generation, it has been alleged that they were cast as Jews, from the mediæval and modern stereotypes around them.

This has been repeatedly debunked by producers, writers, and actors on the show (which shows how deep the conspiracy is, because they are all in on it).

Ferengi have also been used in pretty awful memes by Nazis more recently (no link to those for obvious reasons).

See also Watto from “The Phantom Menace” and “Attack of the Clones.”

Sometimes a greedy hypercapitalist merchant is just a greedy hypercapitalist merchant.

See also Space Jews (Goes to TVTropes, not to be confused with “Jews in Space”)

Most of the damage done to the Ferengi as a species in Trek was done during the TNG years, when the writers struggled to figure out how to turn their dud of a new “bad guy” species into a viable threat, before finally just settling on presenting them as comic relief. It wasn’t really until DS9 got going that the writers finally figured out that the Ferengi could serve as a great counterpoint to the idealized “humans of the future are perfect” that Gene hamstrung them with when TNG started.

Case in point:

Ferengi and Humans

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:41:49pm

There are advantages of S&H Green Stamps over scannable loyalty cards for supermarkets or gas stations:

a) A loyalty card like Piggly Wiggly can only be used in their stores. Stamps can be issued by any company which signs up for the programme.
b) A loyalty card which is read by a scanner can keep track of your purchasing habits (horror stories abound of things like computers suggesting layettes for teenage girls and such). Stamps are private in the same way currency is private over credit cards.

In the United Kingdom, S&H had to use Pink Stamps and a different logo, because a British company was already using a green shield for a similar stamp redemption scheme.

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Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:48:28pm

By contrast, if you want to see the greatest example of how the writers intended the Ferengi as a social commentary on unfettered capitalism, I present Exhibit A:

Quark’s Right Wing Tirade

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:51:48pm

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

So police are playing copyrighted music while being recorded in an attempt to ensure that the footage will get DMCAd when shared on social

Again, I recall all those early Star Trek episodes in which we are warned of the dangers of letting computers make decisions that affect our lives.

Seems that this approach can be remedied by charging police departments fees for playing copyrighted music while on duty…

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ckkatz  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:54:02pm

re: #75 JOE 🥓

Memories of S&H Green Stamps, Top-Val-U and Plaid stamps given out by the various gas stations and supermarkets when I was a kid. Remember those Sunday afternoons when I’d be licking those stamps and putting them in the booklets. We kept them in 3 separate boxes and when Mom got 50 books filled it was off to the redemption center for a set of glasses, towel or sheet set and then there was the time we had 75 books filled and got a record player…

Now you have me remembering them. My mother used to go to the S&H showroom on Negley and Center to redeem them.

If I recall correctly, S&H set up a stunt in 1966 where school kids redeemed enough stamps to buy the Pittsburgh Zoo gorilla ‘Lonesome George’ a gorilla bride ‘Ginger’.
Apparently there were never any baby gorillas from the couple, though.

It being Pittsburgh… The autopsy of Lonesome George after he died, found that ‘he’ had ovaries.

newsinteractive.post-gazette.com

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:54:35pm

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So police are playing copyrighted music while being recorded in an attempt to ensure that the footage will get DMCAd when shared on social

Again, I recall all those early Star Trek episodes in which we are warned of the dangers of letting computers make decisions that affect our lives.

Seems that this approach can be remedied by charging police departments fees for playing copyrighted music while on duty…

It could be weaponized the other way around too…. Cops arrive, you play…

-Yakety Sax- Music

or

Star Wars- The Imperial March (Darth Vader’s Theme)

Or you perform it it live…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:56:06pm

1980 S&H television commercial for Publix (0:30)

S & H Green Stamps Store 1980 Commercial

Whatever happened to S&H Green Stamps? (That History Lady at YouTube, 10:48)

S&H Green Stamps

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2021 • 11:57:55pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ever since the Ferengi appeared on Star Trek: The Next Generation, it has been alleged that they were cast as Jews, from the mediæval and modern stereotypes around them.

I recall the first time they appeared, they were described as being like “Yankee traders”, in other words, incorporating positive American values of the Free Market and Unregulated Commerce.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:09:23am

re: #83 Teukka

It could be weaponized the other way around too…. Cops arrive, you play…

Or you perform it it live…

Report to receive your George Soros incentive cheque.

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:09:24am

re: #59 Teukka

My Surprised Face, etc. etc. etc.

What. The. Fuck. Is. This. Shit.

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Targetpractice  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:11:03am

re: #87 Teukka

What. The. Fuck. Is. This. Shit.

[Embedded content]

What is it about wingnut “freeze peach!!!” sites and coding that looks like “My First Website” level stupidity?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:14:54am

re: #88 Targetpractice

What is it about wingnut “freeze peach!!!” sites and coding that looks like “My First Website” level stupidity?

There are talented coders out their with right-wing leanings, but they are also good capitalists and demand payment up front.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:16:05am

The Imperial March video leads to this one. Guess forty movie themes played over fifteen minutes. Good luck. I blew the first one right out of the gate since I’ve never seen the movie. Got the second one immediately. I’ll figure out my score on this, which should be pretty bad because I’m not much of a movie person.

Movie Theme Quiz (40 Movie Soundtracks)

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:17:15am
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Targetpractice  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:20:09am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Imperial March video leads to this one. Guess forty movie themes played over fifteen minutes. Good luck. I blew the first one right out of the gate since I’ve never seen the movie. Got the second one immediately. I’ll figure out my score on this, which should be pretty bad because I’m not much of a movie person.

[Embedded content]

Same here, though it’s not much of an excuse in my case because A) My sister was a big fan of the series and B) that theme has been practically everywhere for years since the first film premiered.

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:20:32am

re: #91 Teukka

Other coders are picking it up too…

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:40:12am

re: #93 Teukka

Other coders are picking it up too…

The entire threads are full of it. Like, hard-coded passwords in source code? It’s code so hideous you’ll probably have to spoiler it…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:42:35am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Okay I did better than I thought I would do. I got eleven of the forty.

Back in the Middle Ages and Renaissance, the Catholic Church and very wealthy aristocracy funded what are now considered the great works of that time.

I wonder if a couple hundred years in the future if iconic soundtracks such as those from the Star Wars franchise will be the classical music of the future, funded by movie production companies.

My sad list of correct guesses (spoiler):

Jaws
Mission Impossible
Back to the Future
Ghostbusters
The Phantom Menace
Schindler’s List
Indiana Jones
Rocky
Pulp Fiction
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
James Bond

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Targetpractice  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:45:35am

I managed to get 33 out of 40 right, which really tells me that I need to get out more. The only ones I managed to miss either were ones I’d never seen (ex: La La Land) or ones I hadn’t seen in ages (ex: The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe). Though I admit a few I just took a blind stab at and managed to get it right.

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:54:43am

Todays #YouHadOneJob

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:54:47am

re: #92 Targetpractice

Same here, though it’s not much of an excuse in my case because A) My sister was a big fan of the series and B) that theme has been practically everywhere for years since the first film premiered.

I suck even harder at “easy” television shows since I pretty much never owned a television.

Best TV Show Theme Song Quiz (HQ) | Part 1 - EASY

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:59:14am

re: #223 Dread Pirate Ron

What a change. For the past 5 hours it’s been asleep.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 12:59:56am

re: #97 Teukka

Todays #YouHadOneJob

CRT is affecting our food!!!

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:01:45am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

CRT is affecting our food!!!

Giphy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:03:35am

Teaching the onions to hate white bread!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:13:22am

This goes out to all the Marvel fans who are discovering Brenda Lee:

If you love me - Brenda Lee

..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:13:32am

re: #96 Targetpractice

I managed to get 33 out of 40 right, which really tells me that I need to get out more. The only ones I managed to miss either were ones I’d never seen (ex: La La Land) or ones I hadn’t seen in ages (ex: The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe. Though I admit a few I just took a blind stab at and managed to get it right.

If you got that many, it seems you’re getting out to movie theatres a lot (or at least watching them on television or DVD).

Perhaps if someone did a video of someone reading key lines of books I would do better on naming book titles, but not like done at the Website “Hysterical Literature” (very NSFW, this is a family site so I won’t put the link here but you can find them by that name).

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:15:46am

“The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.”
― Albert A. Bartlett
Climate Change is exponential, not linear…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:17:46am

re: #93 Teukka

Other coders are picking it up too…

It’s projection with conservatives always.

Weren’t they the ones telling everyone a couple years ago to “learn to code?” Perhaps they should take their own advice.

I could design a better Website and I know nothing about Website design.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:19:33am

re: #99 Dread Pirate Ron

A few days ago it switched a mode it seems, from short episodes at quick tempo, to now sitting quiet for part of a day then belching great volumes of lava.

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Targetpractice  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:22:54am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If you got that many, it seems you’re getting out to movie theatres a lot (or at least watching them on television or DVD).

Perhaps if someone did a video of someone reading key lines of books I would do better on naming book titles, but not like done at the Website “Hysterical Literature” (very NSFW, this is a family site so I won’t put the link here but you can find them by that name).

I’m one of those weirdos that actually likes to sit down and listen to movie soundtracks. A couple of the ones I got on that quiz I managed to guess simply because certain composers carry a “theme” to the music in a film.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:23:11am

This is where the “butter” side of diplomacy might be useful for both the USA and North Korea.

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Targetpractice  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:25:18am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I suck even harder at “easy” television shows since I pretty much never owned a television.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, no. I’m not taking that quiz because I pretty much stopped watching TV regularly sometime in the past 2 decades. And before that, I was tragically uncool, so most of the series other people were talking about just resulted in blank stares from me.

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:25:21am

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:25:45am

re: #105 Teukka

Earth’s climate is an extremely complicated system, non-linear by nature, chaotic, and doesn’t care about what anyone thinks.

I still object to the use of “crisis” in discussing AGW. We humans just are too limited in our horizon, not living long enough to get a real sense of geologic time, but living just long enough to make messes of things.

The reality is that we are in the process of moving the climate back to the Pliocene temperature range. Seas were higher (much less ice at the poles) back then. The mid-latitudes were warm enough that the growing season in much of the planet was year round.

Our ancestors lived in trees back then.

We can’t return to the trees.

We are on a one-way street.

And it is pretty clear that we don’t care if at the end of this street is a cliff.

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:27:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:28:02am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s projection with conservatives always.

Weren’t they the ones telling everyone a couple years ago to “learn to code?” Perhaps they should take their own advice.

I could design a better Website and I know nothing about Website design.

they want things on the cheap, and they get what they pay for

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:28:49am

re: #111 Teukka

Good dogs on both sides!

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:29:12am

re: #112 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Earth’s climate is an extremely complicated system, non-linear by nature, chaotic, and doesn’t care about what anyone thinks.

I still object to the use of “crisis” in discussing AGW. We humans just are too limited in our horizon, not living long enough to get a real sense of geologic time, but living just long enough to make messes of things.

The reality is that we are in the process of moving the climate back to the Pliocene temperature range. Seas were higher (much less ice at the poles) back then. The mid-latitudes were warm enough that the growing season in much of the planet was year round.

Our ancestors lived in trees back then.

We can’t return to the trees.

We are on a one-way street.

And it is pretty clear that we don’t care if at the end of this street is a cliff.

“But it [the truth] is always there, whether we see it or not, whether we choose to or not.
The truth doesn’t care about our needs or wants.
It doesn’t care about our governments, our ideologies, our religions.
It will lie in wait for all time.”

- HBO’s “Chernobyl”, E05 (“Vichnaya Pamyat”)

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:29:55am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they want things on the cheap, and they get what they pay for

Looks like they pulled a Drumpf and omitted to pay their contractors?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:30:46am

re: #117 Teukka

Looks like they pulled a Drumpf and omitted to pay their contractors?

Or got an unpaid intern to do it in exchange for reference in their CV?

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:31:13am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Or got an unpaid intern to do it in exchange for reference in their CV?

Plausible.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:32:21am
In this way, gift cards can be thought of as a sort of digital currency, not unlike Bitcoin. The comparison may seem silly, given that gift cards date to the bygone era of Blockbuster Video, but today there are online marketplaces where anyone can trade gift card codes for Bitcoin and then turn the spoils into cash. These markets inevitably attract speculators and, because trades can be conducted anonymously, scammers.

(more)

ROBBING THE XBOX VAULT: INSIDE A $10 MILLION GIFT CARD CHEAT (Bloomberg, July 1, 2021)

It was an inside job at Microsoft.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:33:40am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they want things on the cheap, and they get what they pay for

Like all the Trump Dating sites that were either hacked or spammed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:35:08am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Like all the Trump Dating sites that were either hacked or spammed.

And the sign-up forms for the Tulsa rally that omitted the “I am 18 years or older” box…

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:36:03am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Imperial March video leads to this one. Guess forty movie themes played over fifteen minutes. Good luck. I blew the first one right out of the gate since I’ve never seen the movie. Got the second one immediately. I’ll figure out my score on this, which should be pretty bad because I’m not much of a movie person.

[Embedded content]

Speaking of soundtracks, right now I can’t get enough of this one. 11 out of 18 tracks I find increbible:

Re:Zero Season 2 Part 2 - Full Soundtrack [OST]

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:36:22am

Papa Blue Shirt is my inspiration for trail riding. I’m slowly catching up to him on bike skills. The last time I rode a bike was before bicycle helmets were invented. I’m practicing in ditches and semi-tractor tire ruts in the dried dirt along the side of roads each ride to learn how to pick my line and to handle changing terrain. I’m still not ready for a single track trail rated for beginners.

Mile 894: Ecotric Fat Tire Ebike -Trail Accident, Am I Too Old For This ?- 400 Miles Rad Power Bikes

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:38:11am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:45:21am

re: #99 Dread Pirate Ron

Even the high-perched camera on the long ridge can’t view the lava lake. The lava level must have dropped significantly:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:54:35am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Much brighter. Almost makes the Empire warm and fluffy. /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:56:12am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Much brighter. Almost makes the Empire warm and fluffy. /s

Time to ban Critical Sith Theory!!!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 1:59:47am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Time to ban Critical Sith Theory!!!

Since it’s the Alliance who are oppressed by law and custom, perhaps it’s time to ban Critical Rebel Theory.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 2:17:07am

The latest track for Tropical Storm Elsa now shows a direct strike on Florida somewhere between Naples and Tampa.

nhc.noaa.gov

There are Tropical Storm Warnings all over the Caribbean Sea.

The Government of Haiti has issued a Hurricane Watch from Port Au Prince to the southern border with the Dominican Republic.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 2:22:28am

The Barbados Met Office weather radar shows Elsa organising an eye.

barbadosweather.org

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 2:28:23am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 2:35:39am

re: #132 Teukka

Going back to those ExxonMobil items I put up earlier, where they consider the Democratic senators they bought off donated to as their most critical to weaken climate change regulations and delay as long as possible implementing things such as electric vehicles, I would say we’re boned.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 2, 2021 • 2:44:59am

On the night of 1 July, before the massive eruptions on 2 July, the volcano changed mode and apparently did a little phreatic eruption:

Massive Smokes Rising from Volcano 🌋


..

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 2:45:21am

re: #132 Teukka

18.3°C. It’s friggin’ supposed to be WINTER there!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 2:47:28am

re: #135 Teukka

18.3°C. It’s friggin’ supposed to be WINTER there!

They are referring to certification of temperatures recorded last year, during the Antarctic summer.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 2, 2021 • 2:47:44am

re: #135 Teukka

The measurement was made last year.

The news is that the temp was verified.

After measurements are taken, later analyses are done to determine how accurate or precise they are.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 2, 2021 • 2:52:26am

re: #134 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

On the night of 1 July, before the massive eruptions on 2 July, the volcano changed mode and apparently did a little phreatic eruption:

[Embedded content]

Video

..

Elsewhere…

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2021 • 2:58:47am

re: #137 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The measurement was made last year.

The news is that the temp was verified.

After measurements are taken, later analyses are done to determine how accurate or precise they are.

Still WAAAY to high a temp.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 3:00:33am

Philosophy makes no predictions; at best, it explains what has happened. History on the other hand attempts to explain what, who, and sometimes why.

Gresham College has been holding free lectures since the 1300s. A couple years ago, they had history Professor Alec Ryrie, explaining that yes, Virginia, Europe had a large population of atheists (who kept their heads down because the Church would kill you if they found out). Some though were well-known in their day.

He points out the philosophy from the Enlightenment onward building a case for the position of atheism was simply a reaction to a state which existed for hundred of years in Christian Europe. (He includes records of the time from courts, writers, and churches showing atheism was widespread, not non-existent or a niche.)

There was no intellectually sophisticated or articulate ‘atheism’ in the Middle Ages, but there was plenty of raw scepticism and incredulity. Church courts regularly heard blasphemy cases which went as far as outright denial of God.

This lecture will take a tour of medieval unbelief, showing how and why some medieval people defied the powerful orthodoxies of their day: fired not by intellectual or philosophical doubts but by suspicion that ‘God’ was being used to swindle and manipulate them.

(more in the video description box)

He also notes that the crime of blasphemy was by far the most common “crime” tried by the Inquisition (from their own records).

[51:58]

How to be an Atheist in Medieval Europe

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 3:08:28am

Not to mention all the “Deists” among our Founding Fathers.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 2, 2021 • 3:31:45am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 2, 2021 • 3:32:41am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 2, 2021 • 3:32:52am

Conservatism is a mental disorder best treated with anti-psychotics.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 3:32:53am

The birds were just switched on outside, so it’s time to go off to bed.

Yesterday the new dulcimer hammers my wife bought for my graduation from occupational therapy arrived in the mail, so later today I’m going to fire up my electronic tuner, dust off the dulcimer, and hit the strings after a very long time of being unable to play at all.

Wish me luck on that.

Catch y’all later.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 2, 2021 • 3:34:09am

re: #97 Teukka

Todays #YouHadOneJob

[Embedded content]

Never turn your back on the relish

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darthstar  Jul 2, 2021 • 4:06:53am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 2, 2021 • 4:42:55am

re: #147 darthstar

I presume ABC will do a short search and find another conservative apologist to joust with the rest of the crew?

And that Variety article pretty much went that McCain “feuded” with the others since they pretty much ignored her politics and that a lot of the pushback she got was for tossing out the usual conservative lies and dribble.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 2, 2021 • 4:46:27am

Morning Lizards. Sunrise in about 15 minutes. Let the fun begin!

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 4:53:41am

re: #149 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Morning Lizards. Sunrise in about 15 minutes. Let the fun begin!

first day in a week we’re gonna get some serious sunshine on the solar cells

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 2, 2021 • 4:54:34am

re: #148 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Tomi Lohren? Sarah Palin? Ann Coulter? Candace Owens?

They’re all just as awful as McCain so they should work out.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 4:55:55am

re: #149 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Morning Lizards. Sunrise in about 15 minutes. Let the fun begin!

Sun’s already up here, I don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:01:04am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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William Lewis  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:03:57am

Supposed to get to 85 and be sunny here. I’m in the middle of a long stretch of overnight shifts so I’ll be sleeping under the window AC instead of enjoying it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:06:20am

re: #116 Teukka

Still amazing to consider that was written by Craig Mazin, who - prior to Chernobyl - was better known for silly or lowbrow comedies like Scary Movie 3 (and 4) and The Hangover II and III.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:06:34am

re: #154 William Lewis

Supposed to get to 85 and be sunny here. I’m in the middle of a long stretch of overnight shifts so I’ll be sleeping under the window AC instead of enjoying it.

It’s supposed to be typical summer weather on this side of the St. Croix - sunny, highs in the high 80’s to mid 90’s, humid as fuck, with the threat of summer thunderstorms always looming. Mrs. Fish is going to visit more family this weekend, which always makes me nervous, bunch of anti-vax plague rats that they are.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:07:22am

re: #150 Dangerman

first day in a week we’re gonna get some serious sunshine on the solar cells

Cool. I ran into a mounting issue for the charge controller yesterday (surprise!) so am having to figure out a plan B. Already have something in mind, it’s not optimal, but it will work.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:08:56am

re: #152 Dopamine Fish

Sun’s already up here, I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Well as the Mouse likes to put it, I am on mythical standard time. :-)

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:25:01am

i’m bringing out the big bear for this

cheapskate Trump did not want to pay Weisselberg more than they agreed to so they kept a spreadsheet that documented the “reported to the IRS” and the “not reported to the IRS” payments.

and now the DA has it.

they kept a spreadsheet!!!
they wrote it down
they wrote down ‘what we didnt report to the government’

before i release the bear, consider this:
anybody - officer, employee, family member, who knew about the s/s, or ever saw it, or worked on it is complicit in the multi year fraud against the federal, state, and city governments (read ongoing criminal conspiracy)

and now, the bear

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:28:40am

re: #159 Dangerman

You can also use this as well as the bear:

Laugh
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:30:24am

re: #159 Dangerman

i’m bringing out the big bear for this

cheapskate Trump did not want to pay Weisselberg more than they agreed to so they kept a spreadsheet that documented the “reported to the IRS” and the “not reported to the IRS” payments.

and now the DA has it.

they kept a spreadsheet!!!
they wrote it down
they wrote down ‘what we didnt report to the government’

before i release the bear, consider this:
anybody - officer, employee, family member, who knew about the s/s, or ever saw it, or worked on it is complicit in the multi year fraud against the federal, state, and city governments (read ongoing criminal conspiracy)

and now, the bear

[Embedded content]

The Wire - Welcome to the New Day Co-Op

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:32:32am

re: #159 Dangerman

I wonder if part of the delay was the authorities taking some extra time to track down *who* knew about and had access to the spreadsheet.

Since that’s a piece of data to have on hand when you get the people on the stand or otherwise get information from them under oath. Always good to have facts and then ask questions since you get a grasp on whether they are going to tell you the truth or attempt to get away with perjury.

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:41:08am

re: #159 Dangerman

even Frank Burns was smart enough to keep the off the books stuff, off the books.

All profits from my prescription kickbacks are recorded in my red ledger…
not the blue one that I show to the government.

he certainly didnt write a road map connecting all the dots. sheesh.

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:46:20am

re: #80 Targetpractice

By contrast, if you want to see the greatest example of how the writers intended the Ferengi as a social commentary on unfettered capitalism, I present Exhibit A:

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One big argument against Ferengi being ST’s “Jews” is that a major part of actual hatred against Jews is the trope that they all are in it for each other as a group and do not “share” with anyone else.

According to the Ferengi’s Rules of Acquisition (their Bible of sorts) there are several passages that directly counter any sort of notion of collective benefit. For example ” Never allow family to stand in the way of opportunity” and ” Treat people in your debt like family… exploit them.”

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:48:02am

re: #164 Florida Panhandler

One big argument against Ferengi being ST’s “Jews” is that a major part of actual hatred against Jews is the trope that they all are in it for each other as a group and do not “share” with anyone else.

According to the Ferengi’s Rules of Acquisition (their Bible of sorts) there are several passages that directly counter any sort of notion of collective benefit. For example ” Never allow family to stand in the way of opportunity” and ” Treat people in your debt like family… exploit them.”

If I were to compare the Ferengi to anything, it would be modern-day Republicans. The Rules of Acquisition make it abundantly clear that they are the epitome of, “Fuck you, I got mine.”

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:48:20am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

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Is you takin notes?
On a criminal fuckin conspiracy?

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:49:53am

re: #162 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I wonder if part of the delay was the authorities taking some extra time to track down *who* knew about and had access to the spreadsheet.

Since that’s a piece of data to have on hand when you get the people on the stand or otherwise get information from them under oath. Always good to have facts and then ask questions since you get a grasp on whether they are going to tell you the truth or attempt to get away with perjury.

Yup

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 2, 2021 • 5:57:02am

re: #56 ckkatz

From a couple of threads ago..

Congratulations! I know that you have been working very hard to get to this point.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:00:06am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Much brighter. Almost makes the Empire warm and fluffy. /s

The Star Wars video game TIE Fighter had the same idea: The game intro starts with the Imperial March, and then segues into a patriotic fanfare that sounded a lot like an anthem from the Empire’s point of view.

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sagehen  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:02:56am

so the June jobs report…

850,000 jobs added. That’s super-awesome, right?

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:04:21am
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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:06:37am
McCarthy initially objected in February to the number of GOP and Democratic seats on the proposed panel, and on how subpoenas would be issued, Pelosi agreed to his suggestions, only to have McCarthy change his position and raise a completely different objection over the scope of the investigation.”

“When Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS), chair of the Homeland Security Committee, cut a deal in mid-May with GOP Rep. John Katko (R-NY), ranking member on Homeland, over legislation to create a bipartisan commission, McCarthy ended up publicly repudiating the agreement his own member made. Thirty-five House Republicans voted for the bill anyway, only to see it blocked by Senate Republicans.”

“And now with Cheney on the select committee, Pelosi has once more forced McCarthy into a tough situation. Compared to the proposal that Thompson and Katko hashed out — or the compromise floated by Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) — the select committee approved by the House is bad format for McCarthy and the Republicans. There’s no time limit on the investigation, Republicans have no say in who or how many subpoenas can be issued and Pelosi has a veto over McCarthy’s appointments.”

McCarthy’s not very good at this.
You know who is? Pelosi.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:13:31am

re: #159 Dangerman

anybody - officer, employee, family member, who knew about the s/s, or ever saw it, or worked on it is complicit in the multi year fraud against the federal, state, and city governments (read ongoing criminal conspiracy)

Trump is going to plea complete ignorance, that he was just the “big picture” guy and the person who made the public speeches/statements and knew nothing at all of day-to-day operations just like God-Emperor Hirohito in WW2…

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:13:41am

re: #171 Dangerman

I had a flight where we were stuck on the plane after we landed because they didn’t have personnel to man the jet bridge. There was a man sitting across the aisle from myself and my boss, and I swear he was going to pull a stunt like this if we had to wait any longer. He was VERY upset. For our part, we were at our destination, didn’t have anywhere to go except get back in our cars and drive home, so we were just chilling and laughing at the dude.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:13:59am

re: #172 Dangerman

McCarthy’s not very good at this.
You know who is? Pelosi.

McCarthy: But the deal was… (that we lied about actually following).
Pelosi: I have changed the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further.
//

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:14:52am

re: #175 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

McCarthy: But the deal was… (that we lied about actually following).
Pelosi: I have changed the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further.
//

It’s good to see the Democrats playing hardball now. The whining from the Republican Party over this and the Biden shenanigans is absolutely delicious.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:16:27am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump is going to plea complete ignorance, that he was just the “big picture” guy and the person who made the public speeches/statements and knew nothing at all of day-to-day operations just like God-Emperor Hirohito in WW2…

Until there is a big fat unreported check with his signature on it. And I bet he has rules about personally approving payments made within his organization above a certain amount.

Of course, you’re also essentially saying that he is going to follow the usual GOP playbook of claiming incompetence instead of admitting criminality. Especially after crowing about how much control he has over his underlings and knowing everything about what is going on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:17:34am

re: #171 Dangerman

we’re on flight 2396. You all canceled the flight 30 mins ago, but we’re stuck on the plane b/c there’s no one to operate the D-13 jet bridge. Please send someone!!

because that person is at home enjoying generous unemployment benefits

THIS IS BIDEN’S FAULT!!!!

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jeffreyw  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:22:31am

Good morning!

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:30:38am

re: #170 sagehen

so the June jobs report…

850,000 jobs added. That’s super-awesome, right?

Clearly this is reflects economic optimism related to tfg being reinstated as president soon.//

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:34:02am

In local news, the governor made a pronouncement yesterday that based on the CDC’s data (which includes data from federal sources, such as the VA, whereas the state data does not), Minnesota has achieved President Biden’s goal of 70% of adults having at least one shot before July 4. (Link goes to KARE 11, a local news site; European visitors may have some problems.) Because even our Republicans aren’t that stupid.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:35:49am

re: #170 sagehen

so the June jobs report…

850,000 jobs added. That’s super-awesome, right?

Thank you President Biden!! So relieved that you are in our White House!!

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:39:11am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump is going to plea complete ignorance, that he was just the “big picture” guy and the person who made the public speeches/statements and knew nothing at all of day-to-day operations just like God-Emperor Hirohito in WW2…

If this s/s was ever sent to him in an email (yes they’re dumb enough to do that) he’s toast.

And
it appears he signed some of the checks.

only he could have negotiated this deal with wesselberg

If you think the trump org only did this with one employee…

Control freak knew. Had his hand in everything.
And as I understand it the standard is known or should have known
So either way.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:45:51am

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No Malarkey!  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:47:32am

re: #172 Dangerman

McCarthy’s not very good at this.
You know who is? Pelosi.

The GOP had to know that Pelosi would create a select committee when they blocked an independent commission. They know the report will be bad for Republicans, so they decided on a strategy of refusing to cooperate and denouncing the results as partisan.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:49:23am

re: #175 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

McCarthy: But the deal was… (that we lied about actually following).
Pelosi: I have changed the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further.
//

Please Madam Speaker, alter the deal.

Robot Chicken: This Deal’s Getting Worse All The Time

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No Malarkey!  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:49:47am

re: #182 Patricia Kayden

Thank you President Biden!! So relieved that you are in our White House!!

Best job numbers since last August! It took six years after unemployment peaked during the Great Recession for employment to recover to this level.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:51:51am

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

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I’m pretty sure the orange part on the left is supposed to be more than half the circle.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:52:27am

re: #172 Dangerman

McCarthy’s not very good at this.
You know who is? Pelosi.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:53:33am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I wonder if a couple hundred years in the future if iconic soundtracks such as those from the Star Wars franchise will be the classical music of the future, funded by movie production companies.

Film scores are the classical music of TODAY.

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Jay C  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:54:23am

re: #188 Belafon

I’m pretty sure the orange part on the left is supposed to be more than half the circle.

More likely, most Republicans see themselves (and only themselves) as the “working” - and as that red bit from 1:00 to 3:00 o’clock, and everyone else as “takers”…..

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:55:30am

re: #183 Dangerman

If this s/s was ever sent to him in an email (yes they’re dumb enough to do that) he’s toast.

And
it appears he signed some of the checks.

only he could have negotiated this deal with wesselberg

If you think the trump org only did this with one employee…

Control freak knew. Had his hand in everything.
And as I understand it the standard is known or should have known
So either way.

The head of a company is responsible for everything that happens in the company whether or not they were actually doing it.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:56:27am
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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:56:55am
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:58:05am

re: #194 Belafon

Again, thank you President Biden for taking the pandemic seriously.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 6:58:11am

Elsa has been upgraded to a hurricane.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:00:33am

re: #192 Belafon

The head of a company is responsible for everything that happens in the company whether or not they were actually doing it.

Ding

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:03:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:04:00am

re: #192 Belafon

The head of a company is responsible for everything that happens in the company whether or not they were actually doing it.

We all know that, but I can imagine he will try to pull the Hirohito defense.

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:04:42am

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Elsa has been upgraded to a hurricane.

nhc.noaa.gov

I’m noticing a pattern

you post there is a hurricane and we get a hurricane while you’re safe in Nebraska

can’t we do tfg thing.
If there’s no testing there’s no hurricanes…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:06:47am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We all know that, but I can imagine he will try to pull the Hirohito defense.

And/or opt to throw one of the children (or the son-in-law) under the bus.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:07:15am

Studies on why this is true will be interesting:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:13:06am

re: #202 Belafon

“The findings suggest that Republicans would have been substantially more careful had their media environment encouraged them to do so listened to their God-Emperor had he not been a clueless, self-infatuated asshole, plausibly saving many thousands of lives and preventing scores of long-term health problems…”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:13:06am

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

Film scores are the classical music of TODAY.

Damn straight.

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (‘89) - End Credits

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A Mom Anon  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:13:43am

re: #202 Belafon

It’s really shitty that assholes like Carlson can’t be charged with at least accessory to murder for the lies and fear they have sown. While being vaccinated themselves, along with their families.

We really need an updated version of the Fairness Doctrine, but I don’t think that barn door can be closed now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:16:42am

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

Film scores are the classical music of TODAY.

There is modern classical, it has just fallen into irrelevance.

John Cage has been heard of, and a few names like Stockhausen or Lachemann can be found occasionally, but the rest are really only known to other musicians and fans of the genre.

I do not like the notion of equating film scores to modern classical composition.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:18:05am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is modern classical, it has just fallen into irrelevance.

John Cage has been heard of, and a few names like Stockhausen or Lachemann can be found occasionally, but the rest are really only known to other musicians and fans of the genre.

I do not like the notion of equating film scores to modern classical composition.

I didn’t mean classical in the sense of the genre. I meant it in the sense of timeless, univerallly-recognised music.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:18:20am

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I didn’t mean classical in the sense of the genre. I meant it in the sense of timeless, univerallly-recognised music.

Like Disco.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:19:14am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Like Disco.

Hallelujah, it’s raining pianos!

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:19:36am

re: #205 A Mom Anon

It’s really shitty that assholes like Carlson can’t be charged with at least accessory to murder for the lies and fear they have sown. While being vaccinated themselves, along with their families.

We really need an updated version of the Fairness Doctrine, but I don’t think that barn door can be closed now.

Here’s my updated version: Cable fees for news stations must be distributed equally among all of the news stations.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:21:57am

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I didn’t mean classical in the sense of the genre. I meant it in the sense of timeless, univerallly-recognised music.

John Coltrane - Blue train

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:23:33am

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I didn’t mean classical in the sense of the genre. I meant it in the sense of timeless, univerallly-recognised music.

Classical in the sense of a feel, like it’s ok to slur notes and being able to hear the woodwind section was intentional.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:26:08am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:26:47am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is modern classical, it has just fallen into irrelevance.

John Cage has been heard of, and a few names like Stockhausen or Lachemann can be found occasionally, but the rest are really only known to other musicians and fans of the genre.

I do not like the notion of equating film scores to modern classical composition.

I did not come up with the idea that film scores are modern classical music. From the time I was a kid, the local classical radio station had a regular program of “Modern Classics” that was mostly film scores.

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A Cranky One  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:26:48am

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darthstar  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:28:00am

re: #150 Dangerman

first day in a week we’re gonna get some serious sunshine on the solar cells

I just signed the contract for solar a week or so ago. Can’t wait until we get kitted up. I know I’ll spend hours in the garage or on my app just staring at the energy filling up the battery back up.

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:31:04am

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

I did not come up with the idea that film scores are modern classical music. From the time I was a kid, the local classical radio station had a regular program of “Modern Classics” that was mostly film scores.

as you know back aways many film scores were “classical” music

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:31:26am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

I didn’t mean classical in the sense of the genre. I meant it in the sense of timeless, univerallly-recognised music.

I would certainly rank John Coltrane among any of the great composers of any century

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A Mom Anon  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:35:30am

re: #216 darthstar

I think my in laws got ripped off on their deal. Their house is paid off and they just spent 40K on solar. They live near Ft Lauderdale, so I know they will get plenty of sun, but I think the system they got sucked into will never pay for itself.

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makeitstop  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:37:28am

Hey, y’all…

Just a drive-by, then I’m back to learning songs and getting gear ready for the weekend. I’ve been working n getting my musical groove back, and it looks like things are finally starting to pick back up.

Hope all is well in all of your respective worlds.

Also…that video, man. People gotta hang for that shit, and that’s no hyperbole.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:39:44am

SCOTUS won’t protect voting rights, but some state courts will. Victory in NH!

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austin_blue  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:39:53am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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Well, their insurer does.

Did they identify the perps who diddled the little boys?

Ya know, the fucking Pedophiles who ruined the lives of 60,000 children?

Why isn’t Q all over this?

Did the BSA admit guilt?

Have they vetted their Scout Leaders presently leading troops?

Enquiring minds, &c.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:40:39am

re: #6 JOE 🥓

That little old WHINEmaker…she…

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I think Sinema should be used as examples for liberals: If you want to know what it would be like for the Green party to be in power, here’s your example.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:44:30am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I didn’t mean classical in the sense of the genre. I meant it in the sense of timeless, univerallly-recognised music.

I would certainly rank John Coltrane among any of the great composers of any century

Indeed he was. And his circle of fifths is seriously next-level.

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Jay C  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:48:52am

re: #200 Dangerman

I’m noticing a pattern

you post there is a hurricane and we get a hurricane while you’re safe in Nebraska

can’t we do tfg thing.
If there’s no testing there’s no hurricanes…

Actually, the “TFG thing” would be to simply take a Sharpie and re-track the hurricane on the map…
No track, no damage!

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:52:10am

re: #225 Jay C

Actually, the “TFG thing” would be to simply take a Sharpie and re-track the hurricane on the map…
No track, no damage!

tried that already
mixed results
;-)

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mmmirele  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:55:52am

All right, I believe I’ve seen posted here that Charles Booker is running for Senate against Aqua Buddha.

But there is a second candidate, Ruth Gao, and I could have sworn I either received an email or text solicitation from her campaign but I can’t find them right now. But this popped up on my feed this morning (just before I was very rudely reminded that I’m on call all weekend).

In my opinion, Ruth Gao is a stalking horse. She goes to, and holds a (likely) volunteer position at a non-affirming church. And if you think oh, well, Joe Biden is Catholic and we know how the hierarchy feels about LGBTQIA people, well, Joe Biden isn’t an “Equipping Class Coordinator.”

Also, the way this church talks about LGBTQIA people is just offensive. That second tweet just spells it allll out. And to be extremely blunt, since it’s an evangelical church in Louisville, KY, probably 80 percent of the voting congregation voted for Trump.

This woman is a spoiler and I can’t figure out why she’s running. She’s probably anti-choice too.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:57:11am

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:58:34am

re: #144 Dread Pirate Ron

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Conservatism is a mental disorder best treated with anti-psychotics.

Luntz and McCarthy are both perfectly sane, knowledgeable people, neither of whom have any real ideology. Luntz does what he does for money and fame; McCarthy for power. They would both happily switch sides on any issue if they thought it would help them politically; they have no allegiance to anything except their own well being

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 7:58:44am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:00:33am

re: #151 Patricia Kayden

Tomi Lohren? Sarah Palin? Ann Coulter? Candace Owens?

They’re all just as awful as McCain so they should work out.

TBF every one of those women (except maybe Sarah) is far worse than Meghan.

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mmmirele  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:09:21am

re: #230 Dopamine Fish

Yeah, came across that yesterday.

Heritage Academy is a public charter school, but the way these schools are run, it’s likely unspoken that being LGBTQIA is awful, don’t come to our school, and we’ll kick you out if we find out. This is why tax dollars shouldn’t go to charter schools.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:11:17am

Reading about Trumpco taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy, I’m reminded of the Studio 54 documentary I watched recently on Netflix. One of the biggest pieces of evidence against the Studio 54 guys was their spreadsheet with a column marked SK for skimming. That and their greed. They were skimming 60-70 percent. The other Trump connection, their lawyer was Roy Cohn.

While I was watching the first half of the doc where they were talking about the rise of Studio 54 and the party atmosphere, I kept thinking to myself about all the young men and women that were most likely exploited there. Then Roy Cohn shows up, and I thought to myself, JFC it was probably worse than I could ever imagine.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:12:05am

re: #187 No Malarkey!

Best job numbers since last August! It took six years after unemployment peaked during the Great Recession for employment to recover to this level.

But that’s because the stimulus package in 2009 was too small. The packages for the pandemic were far larger.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:14:01am

re: #227 mmmirele

All right, I believe I’ve seen posted here that Charles Booker is running for Senate against Aqua Buddha.

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In my opinion, Ruth Gao is a stalking horse. She goes to, and holds a (likely) volunteer position at a non-affirming church. And if you think oh, well, Joe Biden is Catholic and we know how the hierarchy feels about LGBTQIA people, well, Joe Biden isn’t an “Equipping Class Coordinator.”

Also, the way this church talks about LGBTQIA people is just offensive. That second tweet just spells it allll out. And to be extremely blunt, since it’s an evangelical church in Louisville, KY, probably 80 percent of the voting congregation voted for Trump.

This woman is a spoiler and I can’t figure out why she’s running. She’s probably anti-choice too.

She was mentioned here a few days ago when she announced her candidacy. I think she was hoping no one would look into her background.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:19:11am

re: #232 mmmirele

Yeah, came across that yesterday.

Heritage Academy is a public charter school, but the way these schools are run, it’s likely unspoken that being LGBTQIA is awful, don’t come to our school, and we’ll kick you out if we find out. This is why tax dollars shouldn’t go to charter schools.

A new Kentucky school choice law is currently in litigation.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:19:45am

re: #210 Belafon

Here’s my updated version: Cable fees for news stations must be distributed equally among all of the news stations.

Doesn’t that depend on the definition of a news station. Do you really want OANN and Noisemax to be receiving a cent?

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cat-tikvah  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:20:30am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Learned this parody in junior high choir.

The Goldcoast Singers - Green Stamps

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:21:23am

re: #228 BlueSpotinAL

It occurs to me that “Let the hate flow through you” would be a perfect slogan for Fox News.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:21:38am

re: #237 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t that depend on the definition of a news station. Do you really want OANN and Noisemax to be receiving a cent?

There would be 3 or 4 stations now, and 10 if it expands. Then the stations would have to go back to relying on advertising.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:21:39am

re: #234 Hecuba’s daughter

But that’s because the stimulus package in 2009 was too small. The packages for the pandemic were far larger.

Yep, the federal government stepped up in a big way this time around, and in a couple of weeks millions of families will start having child tax credits deposited in their accounts!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:25:25am

re: #230 Dopamine Fish

If I was the girl in question here I’d be raising all shades of hell with these assholes. I know she’s a kid, but these people can’t be allowed to drag a kid into their hatred and stupidity. If they get away with this, what’s next?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:26:05am

re: #232 mmmirele

Yeah, came across that yesterday.

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Heritage Academy is a public charter school, but the way these schools are run, it’s likely unspoken that being LGBTQIA is awful, don’t come to our school, and we’ll kick you out if we find out. This is why tax dollars shouldn’t go to charter schools.

Might not be true in Arizona but in Chicago I believe that public charter schools are open to everyone who lives in the neighborhood.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:29:24am

The weather here in central and southern NH: 62F and constant rain. I’m thrilled. We need several days of rain. I’d love it if it rained hard right through the 4th. Maybe we won’t have the long traffic jam we experience every Friday afternoon as people flow up from southern New England and New York.

OTOH, I had to drive my son to his PT job about 20 miles south of here, then drive back to get him a few hours later. Then take him up to Weare to a friend’s house, which is about 20 miles in the other direction—in this rain. If you want to have any kind of social or cultural life for many here, it means driving lots of miles everyday. I need an electric car or Prius soon.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:31:40am

re: #244 Barefoot Grin

If you want to have any kind of social or cultural life for many here, it means driving lots of miles everyday.

That’s actually what it means to live in a major metropolitan area as well.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:35:20am

re: #245 Belafon

That’s actually what it means to live in a major metropolitan area as well.

Yes, that’s true. I lived in Atlanta for four years. It was a decent residential area, but to get to downtown or many of the areas with restaurants and shops was a tremendous hassle and lots of driving.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:37:51am

re: #245 Belafon

That’s actually what it means to live in a major metropolitan area as well.

It’s just the nature of living in a large country like America. There’s lots of space between everything, and very few towns have everything - and the ones that do are so large that it’s a lot of driving to get from one thing to the other.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:40:09am

re: #246 Barefoot Grin

Yes, that’s true. I lived in Atlanta for four years. It was a decent residential area, but to get to downtown or many of the areas with restaurants and shops was a tremendous hassle and lots of driving.

When living in Chicago, I would use public transportation or cabs to get everywhere. Depending on where you reside, parking has been a nightmare for decades. And I never learned to parallel park anyway. Most popular neighborhoods have restaurants and stores within walking distance.

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Dangerman  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:40:40am

well something’s changed in the last month or two

went to give blood today and my iron was squarely in the green so they took a pint

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:40:53am

re: #244 Barefoot Grin

The weather here in central and southern NH: 62F and constant rain. I’m thrilled. We need several days of rain. I’d love it if it rained hard right through the 4th. Maybe we won’t have the long traffic jam we experience every Friday afternoon as people flow up from southern New England and New York.

Anything like this gag from Family Guy?

Leafers!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:47:36am

re: #248 Hecuba’s daughter

When living in Chicago, I would use public transportation or cabs to get everywhere. Depending on where you reside, parking has been a nightmare for decades. And I never learned to parallel park anyway. Most popular neighborhoods have restaurants and stores within walking distance.

My sister drives everywhere in Chicago. I don’t know how she does it.

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

Anything like this gag from Family Guy?

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Video

Hah hah, I hadn’t seen that. I live closer to Manchester, so we’re in the drive-through zone where people try to get off of I-93 to get to the lakes. In eight years I’ve only been to the lakes region a few times, and that was for my kids’ soccer games. The little town I’m taking my son to is out of the way, but it really is beautiful. I want to move there, but my wife doesn’t like the inconvenience.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 2, 2021 • 8:50:54am

I kind of am enjoying Ron DeSantis’s signer.
Watching this presser, I can’t stop watching her.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:04:14am

re: #179 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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plansbandc  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:14:24am

Opalized dinosaur bone fossil from Australia.

Can you imagine finding this ridiculously cool and beautiful thing?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:15:08am

free Kindle book today:

Lyme: The First Epidemic of Climate Change by Mary Beth Pfeiffer

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:16:30am

re: #254 plansbandc

Very cool. The opal makes it even cooler if that is possible.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:16:56am

re: #254 plansbandc

Opalized dinosaur bone fossil from Australia.

Can you imagine finding this ridiculously cool and beautiful thing?

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It’s gorgeous. I’d be absolutely speechless if I found something like that. That’s a prize.

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mmmirele  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:50:50am

re: #236 No Malarkey!

A new Kentucky school choice law is currently in litigation.

“School choice” in Arizona means we have several charter school chains that are devoted to looting the state treasury without the oversight that regular school districts have to go through. And there are “charter schools” which are actually hidden “church schools” for various sects. It irritates me to no end that I have to pay taxes for these generally right-wing outfits where the charter school owners (like you EDDIE FARNSWORTH) have made themselves multi-millionaires on the backs of taxpayers and are not preparing our kids for the future.

My point—if your state doesn’t have charter schools, do everything you can to keep them out.

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:57:03am
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mmmirele  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:57:14am

re: #243 Hecuba’s daughter

Might not be true in Arizona but in Chicago I believe that public charter schools are open to everyone who lives in the neighborhood.

Charter schools are open to everyone here, but the schools have the ability to basically kick anyone out who is a “problem.” So kids with an IEP plan, kids who aren’t cis, kids who have undiagnosed issues (like I was, back in the 1960s and 70s), anyone who doesn’t fit in, they find a way to get rid of them, and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.

I had a terrible public school experience in large part because I was an undiagnosed high functioning autistic kid with a very bad grasp of social cues (among other things). But I am flat out opposed to charter schools because they’re used as culture war academies on the taxpayers’ dime. At least kids today are getting diagnosed and getting help, but not at charter schools.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:58:57am

re: #259 jaunte

Now that is a tweet that should be sent to DT and his family constantly.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:59:42am

re: #260 mmmirele

I had a terrible public school experience in large part because I was an undiagnosed high functioning autistic kid with a very bad grasp of social cues (among other things). But I am flat out opposed to charter schools because they’re used as culture war academies on the taxpayers’ dime. At least kids today are getting diagnosed and getting help, but not at charter schools.

I think that is a more common thing than people realize. I had a similar experience in school. As for charter schools, my son was briefly enrolled in one because a friend of ours worked there; that ended VERY quickly, as, despite being one of the premier schools in the area, they were woefully unequipped to handle a high-functioning autistic kid! Who’da thunk?

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2021 • 9:59:59am

re: #261 PhillyPretzel

They know they’re lying about it. It’s what they do.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:00:10am

re: #259 jaunte

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Ask Greg Abbott about the time, as Attorney General, he had an investigation done into Texas voter fraud.

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:02:18am
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jaunte  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:02:46am

This “Forget The Alamo” book has really kicked up some dust.

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plansbandc  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:03:25am

Charter schools run by R’s with very little oversight. They pocket the taxpayers’ money.

I have a friend who’s an education activist in Denver. She’s been fighting against charter schools for a long time. Total scam.

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:03:34am

“Revisionist History” aka poking the myth.

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:06:03am

The Alamo myth is unsustainably racist, as the book lays out. No wonder the reactionaries want to suppress it.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:06:48am

I actually had to do a double-take at this, because it sounds EXACTLY like something the Federalist Society would actually promote.

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mmmirele  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:10:25am

re: #269 jaunte

The Alamo myth is unsustainably racist, as the book lays out. No wonder the reactionaries want to suppress it.

When I was quite a bit younger and still living in Texas, there was a persistent rumor that the hotels and other buildings on the east side of the Alamo property were built over a Black graveyard / Indian burial ground and the powers that be didn’t want that to get out.

Well, it turns out the rumor is somewhat true but there’s a lot of entrenched resistance to actually finding out the extent of the burials.

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:14:27am

re: #271 mmmirele

The Cenotaph was put up in 1936, and mistakenly commemorates the names of people who weren’t even at the Alamo battle, so of course its location is sacred and never to be changed.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:16:32am

re: #266 jaunte

This “Forget The Alamo” book has really kicked up some dust.

The Battle of the Alamo is central to the mythology of Texas.

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:16:47am

The Alamo massacre was a pointless and stupid tactical blunder on the part of the Texian defenders, so there’s a lot of effort devoted in the myth-making to claiming it was a noble and strategic sacrifice.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:17:18am

re: #272 jaunte

The Cenotaph was put up in 1936, and mistakenly commemorates the names of people who weren’t even at the Alamo battle, so of course its location is sacred and never to be changed.

Do you have a link for the mistaken names on it? I would love to make my first edit on wikipedia be to add that list to the cenotaph’s entry.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:18:03am
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jaunte  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:18:57am

re: #275 Belafon

I don’t have the names themselves, but:

Names of the defenders were carved along the base. But there are 47 historical inaccuracies in the list.

Several defenders’ names are misspelled or have the wrong first names, initials, or last names. The list includes three men who died before or after the battle — and omits 12 people who died during the battle.
expressnews.com

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No Malarkey!  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:20:55am
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DesertDenizen  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:24:08am

re: #276 HRH Stanley Sea

Kelly is good eccentric, unlike Bauer, who is bad eccentric. And potentially a violent rapist.

Edited to clarity.

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William Lewis  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:26:58am

re: #269 jaunte

The Alamo myth is unsustainably racist, as the book lays out. No wonder the reactionaries want to suppress it.

Bought the book on Kindle. Looks excellent. I already knew a big chunk of this thanks to some real history I’ve read but this looks like it’ll get the story much more widely known. Good!

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2021 • 10:28:32am

re: #278 No Malarkey!

Seems like it would be great for various people to look through the videos and find just how peaceful Smith was.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 2, 2021 • 11:03:36am

I have long had reservations about charter schools; however, after two years of frustration at our local public high school, my academically gifted daughter decided to remove herself from that environment and enroll in an arts-based charter school in Albuquerque.

To its credit, despite whatever reservations I might have had about academic rigor, my daughter’s school had a decent number of out LGBTQ+ students.

After graduating from university, my daughter returned to work there as an aide. Unfortunately, my daughter’s bipolar disorder manifested itself a few days after attending a conference for activist trans youth. After her release from hospitalization, she tried to return to work a bit too early and suffered a relapse requiring a second hospitalization three days after returning to work. (The specifics are complicated to explain, but the lithium in her system hadn’t yet reached a therapeutically effective level before she returned to work.) Her second episode (technically, it was still a continuation of her first) manifested at a school event - an evening art showing before the parents.

After release, she chose to leave that job, not due to pressure from faculty or administration, but the feeling that she needed to avoid certain triggering concepts and/or events until she was well enough to handle them.

Now, she’s in grad school working on a degree in counseling.


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