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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 8:14:26pm

re: #407 The Ghost of a Flea

I’ve been in a deep dive on materials about the troubled teen industry and…man, Americans have deep convictions about children being the property of their parents.

It’s partly written into our laws, which is why parents can force their minor children (subject to safety laws and such) to work in the parents’ business for no pay (slaves).

It’s why parents can hit children for punishment, when hitting an adult is battery.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 8:27:26pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 8:36:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 8:38:49pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2021 • 8:56:03pm

re: #406 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Only with a court order in some places.

That’s why Christians can refuse blood transfusions or other sorts of life saving care for their children.

In fact, the GOP in Florida is advancing a bill right now to prohibit all care to a child without positive parental consent. If a child is injured away from her parents, too bad for you.

(more)

Denying medical care to children falls under genocide statutes. The GOP in Florida will not be satisfied just with killing children with Covid-19.

Under proposed law, no emergency care for kids without parental consent (WINK-TV, Ft. Meyers, CBS)

And the only thing I can see this bill producing is a whole lot of fruitless lawsuits when parents start suing hospitals for either refusing to provide emergency care or simply refusing to admit their child without them in tow.

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:03:05pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:05:25pm

UPS is trying some new vehicles, quad e-cargo-bikes.

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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:05:44pm

re: #6 gocart mozart

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Who all agree that going to war in Afghanistan was a total mistake and we needed to leave, BUT think that there was some magical way where Biden could get the Taliban to agree to just settle for control over half of the country instead of gobbling up the rest the moment we left.

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:05:51pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:06:56pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:12:09pm

So much of the bitching today from MAGAts about Afghanistan sounds like a repeat of Iraq back in 2011. All the assholes who hailed the previous Repub pres for “getting us out” are now screaming up an absolute fit that there wasn’t a way where we could both leave the country entirely and maintain a sufficient presence to keep the “bad guys” from overrunning the country.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:13:20pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:23:03pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:27:22pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

“No WAP”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:27:25pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“foreign policy literacy” - perhaps we should start with geography first?

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:27:52pm

re: #10 gocart mozart

wings ripped from a fairy’s back by a crazed serial killer.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:35:10pm

re: #15 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“foreign policy literacy” - perhaps we should start with geography first?

Start with domestic geography.

Name the states bordering yours. (Hawai’i and Alaska get a mulligan.)
Name the capitals of the fifty states.
Point to US Territories on a map. Bonus: Name them. Double bonus: Name their capitals.

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:37:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:43:04pm
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Belafon  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:43:28pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Start with domestic geography.

Name the states bordering yours. (Hawai’i and Alaska get a mulligan.)
Name the capitals of the fifty states.
Point to US Territories on a map. Bonus: Name them. Double bonus: Name their capitals.

I think the the state capitals is mostly unnecessary. Know that we have territories, where they are located, and how we got them is way more important in my book.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:45:54pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:46:34pm

re: #20 Belafon

I think the the state capitals is mostly unnecessary. Know that we have territories, where they are located, and how we got them is way more important in my book.

I had to learn all fifty state capitals, they can do it too. /s

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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:49:34pm

We spent $88 billion over the last 20 years standing up, arming, and training the Afghan National Army. So where are they? Oh right, same place the Iraqi Army was when we first started pulling troops out and turning over combat duties to them: Running for their lives because they’d thought the whole “playing army” gig was an easy way to make money, they never thought they’d actually have to fight.

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:50:25pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

daylight savings time?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:51:15pm

re: #24 sagehen

daylight savings time?

Or someone just screwed up and got things off by an hour.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:52:22pm

No.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:52:38pm

re: #24 sagehen

daylight savings time?

Googling shows a two hour difference.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:53:46pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

We spent $88 billion over the last 20 years standing up, arming, and training the Afghan National Army. So where are they? Oh right, same place the Iraqi Army was when we first started pulling troops out and turning over combat duties to them: Running for their lives because they’d thought the whole “playing army” gig was an easy way to make money, they never thought they’d actually have to fight.

I wonder how many of them just accepted that it was a good paycheck while it lasted. Maybe they never were against the Taliban; just taking what was on offer as a way to support their families. If the US was going to pull out eventually, they would take the money while it lasted, and then shed that job like they were scooping fries at McDonalds.

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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:53:54pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

No.

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“Sunk cost” fallacy rears its ugly fuckin’ face again.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:54:01pm

re: #27 Belafon

Googling shows a two hour difference.

Russia doesn’t observe DST, but England does.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:54:11pm

re: #24 sagehen

daylight savings time?

Russia does not observe Daylight Saving Time since 2010. Currently there should be a three hour difference between Moscow Time and British Summer Time.

Best guess is the clock is set wrong.

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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:55:52pm

re: #28 retired cynic

I wonder how many of them just accepted that it was a good paycheck while it lasted. Maybe they never were against the Taliban; just taking what was on offer as a way to support their families. If the US was going to pull out eventually, they would take the money while it lasted, and then shed that job like they were scooping fries at McDonalds.

I’ve been talking to a friend who had a compatriot involved in the early days of building up the ANA. And the stories he had to tell about the attitude displayed leaves me with the very real impression that we were skimming the bottom of the barrel just to post good-looking numbers. Like the story of the first day of target practice with brand-new Glock pistols, where one of the recruits complained his gun wouldn’t fire, and thought the appropriate way to figure out why…was to stare down the bore of a loaded pistol.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:56:27pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Russia does not observe Daylight Saving Time since 2010. Currently there should be a three hour difference between Moscow Time and British Summer Time.

Best guess is the clock is set wrong.

In November, whe DST ends, the British will roll their clocks back an hour, creating a three hour difference.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:56:46pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

“Sunk cost” fallacy rears its ugly fuckin’ face again.

Notice the LA Times is not interviewing veterans who think the time there was futile. Only veterans who think we should be there longer.

This is sort of like the New York Times Iowa diner interviews of Trump supporters.

The LA Times article seems to have a whiff of “pushing a particular story.”

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mmmirele  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:58:51pm

re: #27 Belafon

Googling shows a two hour difference.

The UK is on summer time right now and will be until October 31. Someone failed to update the clock.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 15, 2021 • 9:58:53pm

re: #18 gocart mozart

Now do that with a bat peeing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:02:46pm

Well, here’s an anti-Semite to report on that LA Times article (caution):

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:04:02pm

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

WTF?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:04:53pm

re: #38 retired cynic

WTF?

IK,R?

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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:05:51pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Notice the LA Times is not interviewing veterans who think the time there was futile. Only veterans who think we should be there longer.

This is sort of like the New York Times Iowa diner interviews of Trump supporters.

The LA Times article seems to have a whiff of “pushing a particular story.”

It’s the media interviewing Vietnam vets years after they were there, asking them “could we have won?,” and then acting as though the opining of low-level grunts/officers with no real appreciation of the overall strategic and diplomatic situation is “proof” that the war was “winnable.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:05:53pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:08:51pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:17:28pm

That London clock is probably Universal Time.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:20:29pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Notice the LA Times is not interviewing veterans who think the time there was futile. Only veterans who think we should be there longer.

This is sort of like the New York Times Iowa diner interviews of Trump supporters.

The LA Times article seems to have a whiff of “pushing a particular story.”

It’s the Lies Angeles Times. Now it’s nothing more than another cog in the Republican Bullshit Machine. Whatever integrity the Times had at one time died when Otis Chandler was forced out as Publisher and replaced by a hack.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:22:26pm

I took a look at my son’s mother’s posts and yep it’s nothing but Republican bullshit crucifying Joe and demanding his impeachment over abandoning our…”brave Xtian allies…”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:24:27pm

The Tropical Update from the High Plains.

Storm Surge Warning from Indian Pass to Yankeetown in the Florida Panhandle.

Tropical Storm Warning from Wakulla to the Jefferson County Line in the Florida Panhandle. All other warnings and watches have been dropped.

Tropical Storm Fred is expected to cross the coastline in the warned area around 7PM tomorrow. Afterward, Fred is expected to move along the same track into the Tennessee Valley, with the potential for flooding in Appalachia.

LOCATION…27.3N 85.9W
ABOUT 200 MI…325 KM S OF PANAMA CITY FLORIDA
ABOUT 175 MI…280 KM SSW OF APALACHICOLA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…50 MPH…85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NNW OR 330 DEGREES AT 9 MPH…15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…999 MB…29.50 INCHES

nhc.noaa.gov

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:26:23pm

re: #45 JOE 🥓

I took a look at my son’s mother’s posts and yep it’s nothing but Republican bullshit crucifying Joe and demanding his impeachment over abandoning our…”brave Xtian allies…”

I was not aware there are a lot of Christians in Afghanistan.

If concern for religious persecution is what’s up here, the Taliban’s past practice has been to persecute Hindus and Buddhists and execute atheists.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:29:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:35:29pm
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:38:49pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There’s one problem with the Murphy, Sanders, Lee bill that is red flag for me.

RT is reporting on it with a neutral to positive stance.

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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:39:06pm

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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This is all they really have after 20 years: A cavalcade of “reasons” why we needed to stay, but none of them wanted to step up and be the one to argue for a never-ending occupation. They wanted to get the kudos for calling for an “end,” but none of the blame when that “end” lead to the Potemkin village collapsing on the riverside.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:41:24pm

smol

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:42:35pm

Gotta sicken who we can.

Kids may be allowed to stay in school after COVID exposure this year, at least initially (Omaha World-Herald)

Parents may find schools more flexible on quarantining their kids after a COVID-19 contact this school year, at least initially.

Nebraska schools enter the year without a directed health measure dictating what to do when a student has a close contact with someone who has tested positive for the virus.

Parents can expect local quarantining decisions to be situational, depending on the specific circumstances of the contact and the spread of the disease, school and health officials said.

Schools are no longer under last fall’s emergency pandemic orders that detailed the rules for isolation and quarantine.

There is state and federal guidance to help school officials but not anything that carries the force of law regarding quarantining, leaving districts to huddle with local health officials to figure out how they will handle those situations.

(more)

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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:48:13pm

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Gotta sicken who we can.

Kids may be allowed to stay in school after COVID exposure this year, at least initially (Omaha World-Herald)

(more)

Most likely situation? School officials bending to the screaming hordes and letting Little Johnny come back to class because “HE AIN’T SICK!!!”, so that he can proceed to spread the virus to everybody around him until somebody is sick.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:49:42pm

re: #50 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

There’s one problem with the Murphy, Sanders, Lee bill that is red flag for me.

RT is reporting on it with a neutral to positive stance.

Description of the bill on Senator Murphy’s Website.

The National Security Powers Act Safeguards Congressional Prerogative in Use of Military Force, Emergency Powers, and Arms Exports by Cutting Off Funding for Activities Lacking Authorization (July 20, 2021)

The National Security Powers Act Safeguards Congressional Prerogative in Use of Military Force, Emergency Powers, and Arms Exports by Cutting Off Funding for Activities Lacking Authorization

S.2391 National Security Powers Act of 2021 (Congressional Website, text of bill)

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 15, 2021 • 10:59:26pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On a glance, and by principle anything that sunsets old AUMFs and retools the War Powers Act out of Cold War paranoia mode is fine with me, but if the worst Russian propaganda outlets are like “meh it’s OK” on it, I’d like to hear what someone like Jim Wright thinks of it before judging it further. I might be missing some minutia in the text.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 15, 2021 • 11:05:45pm

re: #56 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

On a glance, and by principle anything that sunsets old AUMFs and retools the War Powers Act out of Cold War paranoia mode is fine with me, but if the worst Russian propaganda outlets are like “meh it’s OK” on it, I’d like to hear what someone like Jim Wright thinks of it before judging it further. I might be missing some minutia in the text.

Fair enough. I wouldn’t know how to pose the question to him, or if he’s interested in it.

I’m going to pedal off to bed for a nap. Catch y’all later. Stay safe if you’re in the Florida Panhandle (or really, anywhere).

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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2021 • 11:17:17pm

Alexa, show me a total lack of self-awareness:

Hey Dan, five words: “With us or against us.”

Or how about another three: “Support our troops.”

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2021 • 11:23:22pm

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, here’s an anti-Semite to report on that LA Times article (caution):

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 15, 2021 • 11:26:21pm

The first thing I’d recommend is load up your panniers and rack bag, which they do not have, with camping gear. Once I get a trailer hitch bike rack I’ll be doing some bike camping.

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2021 • 11:26:37pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I was not aware there are a lot of Christians in Afghanistan.

If concern for religious persecution is what’s up here, the Taliban’s past practice has been to persecute Hindus and Buddhists and execute atheists.

I remember in the early days of our Afghan Adventure, a story on CNN about “The Jews of Afghanistan. Both of them.”

There were, quite literally, two and only two Jews in the country. Both were elderly men. They were relatively safe because of some provision in the Koran that “people of the book” (i.e., Jews) were to be accorded certain protections. And the reason neither of them left is there was some long-ago pronouncement by some mullah that the last Jew remaining in Afghanistan was entitled to take possession of a 1000-year-old Torah, and neither of these bitter old men could bear the thought of the other getting it.

It was weird as fuck.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 15, 2021 • 11:52:49pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Russia does not observe Daylight Saving Time since 2010. Currently there should be a three hour difference between Moscow Time and British Summer Time.

Best guess is the clock is set wrong.

The clock in the picture does show a three hour difference between London and Moscow.

Now *I’m* confused.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 16, 2021 • 12:03:56am
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William Lewis  Aug 16, 2021 • 12:07:33am

re: #63 Dread Pirate Ron

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Video

Nice start. This was my favorite track on the disk though.

New Age (Full Length Version) (2015 Remastered)

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BigPapa  Aug 16, 2021 • 12:18:43am

Wife Unit got Jabby 3 today. She was super stoked and emotional. So I’m stoked now too.

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ericblair  Aug 16, 2021 • 12:25:47am

re: #62 A Three Hour Tour

The clock in the picture does show a three hour difference between London and Moscow.

Now *I’m* confused.

There’s a three hour difference between Moscow time and Zulu/UTC. Any military HQ briefing room will have Zulu clocks, since that’s how time in military operations is referenced.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 16, 2021 • 12:35:38am

re: #27 Belafon

Googling shows a two hour difference.

Russia is on permanent summer time while UK changes

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 16, 2021 • 12:36:34am

re: #30 Belafon

Russia doesn’t observe DST, but England does.

I thought it was the opposite, they are on permanent summer, so to speak

and now we see the real cause behind global warming

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Teukka  Aug 16, 2021 • 12:40:52am

Tweeted about two threads downstairs:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 16, 2021 • 12:43:08am

Footnote: Germany surrendered just before midnight on May 8th, 1945, it was already May 9th in Moscow, where they celebrate VE Day on May 9th.

Further footnote: Arizona still does not change its clocks, shifting from Rocky Mountain time zone in winter to Pacific TZ in summer.
Except on the Navajo Reservation, which changes its clocks.
Except on the Hopi reservation, totally surrounded by Navajo territory, which does not change its clocks, so you can wind up changing your clocks four times on a trip from Flagstaff to Gallup…

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Dave In Austin  Aug 16, 2021 • 1:32:21am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 16, 2021 • 1:35:51am
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JC1  Aug 16, 2021 • 1:42:35am

re: #33 Belafon

In November, whe DST ends, the British will roll their clocks back an hour, creating a three hour difference.

So what you’re saying is that the picture is from the future 🤣?
I guess the CT is that it’s from pre April.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 16, 2021 • 1:48:26am

re: #60 Dread Pirate Ron

The first thing I’d recommend is load up your panniers and rack bag, which they do not have, with camping gear. Once I get a trailer hitch bike rack I’ll be doing some bike camping.

What sort of (solar?) charging system are you going to use? I am also assuming you’ll have a spare battery to charge as well.

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ericblair  Aug 16, 2021 • 2:15:36am

re: #74 JC1

So what you’re saying is that the picture is from the future 🤣?
I guess the CT is that it’s from pre April.

It’s. Zulu. Time.

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sagehen  Aug 16, 2021 • 2:36:03am

re: #76 ericblair

It’s. Zulu. Time.

Zulu. That’s like, African, right? CRT stuff. You’re obviously a marxist.

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Targetpractice  Aug 16, 2021 • 2:37:33am

re: #73 Dave In Austin

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I have to disagree with him, at least in spirit. While I agree with the idea that the analogy of this to Vietnam doesn’t work in the way it’s falling apart, the lead-up bears a lot of similarities. We got involved in a conflict that we had no business fighting and without a clear goal, we got involved in the affairs of a foreign state to justify our prolonged presence, we helped build an army only to take its place when we decided it was useless, and then finally ended up deciding that the fighting wasn’t in our interest and turned over things to a state that was eaten up with corruption and a military that was unable to do the fighting it found itself charged with.

Yeah, it’s not the Fall of Saigon, but it’s hitting a lot of the same notes.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 16, 2021 • 2:48:23am

re: #78 Targetpractice

I think the mission WAS clear in the beginning. Kill Bin Laden. Period. GWB had SF with a bead on him at Spinbaldak and he turned down the shot.
That’s when thing went south IMO.

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ericblair  Aug 16, 2021 • 2:54:10am

Regarding the legality of it, it’s unclear in this thread whether the move is now legal because of the new increase in visas approved by Congress (which was only 8000 more, btw), or whether the Biden administration just said fuck it, sue us.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 16, 2021 • 2:56:44am

re: #78 Targetpractice

Yeah, it’s not the Fall of Saigon, but it’s hitting a lot of the same notes.

We were fighting the Afghan war with a small elite volunteer force, not masses of barely-trained draftees. That also changed the tone and nature of our actions there.

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Targetpractice  Aug 16, 2021 • 3:06:26am

re: #79 Dave In Austin

I think the mission WAS clear in the beginning. Kill Bin Laden. Period. GWB had SF with a bead on him at Spinbaldak and he turned down the shot.
That’s when thing went south IMO.

And that’s when mission creep started settling in. First it was “Get OBL,” then it became “Make the guys responsible for 9/11 (i.e. Al-Q) pay!,” then it became “Make the people peripherally involved in the planning of 9/11 (i.e. the Taliban) pay!” and so on and so on. Then people started questioning the purpose of the mission as the Taliban was on the run and the WH screamed “LOOK! OVER THERE! SADDAM!” and suddenly Afghanistan became the “good war” in the Dem lexicon because we could use it to criticize Dubya for diverting resources and manpower from a fight that we couldn’t even justify any longer.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 16, 2021 • 3:07:57am

re: #82 Targetpractice

No argument there.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 16, 2021 • 3:08:08am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 3:11:15am

re: #84 Dave In Austin

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William Lewis  Aug 16, 2021 • 3:19:24am

re: #84 Dave In Austin

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There are a lot of people - Roman Catholic and others - who will celebrate when that weasel goes to hell.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 16, 2021 • 3:23:15am

Ron Paul is of course trending on twitter because reasons.

Those reasons being that the MAGA crowd are trying their best to tar Biden with the mess he inherited.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 16, 2021 • 3:28:58am

Record rainfall in Japan causing flooding:

Record breaking rainfall and Flooding in Western Japan

..

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sagehen  Aug 16, 2021 • 3:32:28am

Morning Joe is trying to thread the needle of criticizing Trump for making nice-nice with the Taliban and thus delegitimizing the “official” Afghan govt (letting their people out of prison, talking with them on the phone and saying nice things about them, sending Pompeo to meet with them, trying to invite them to Camp David)… also that the RNC deleted a page from their website that made clear Trump wanted out…

But at the same time, criticizing Biden for not moving with more speed and urgency to approve special immigrant visas and evacuate translators etc before this mess they should have foreseen came crashing down.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 16, 2021 • 3:36:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 16, 2021 • 3:52:52am

re: #89 sagehen

But at the same time, criticizing Biden for not moving with more speed and urgency to approve special immigrant visas and evacuate translators etc before this mess they should have foreseen came crashing down.

Then they will complain about letting so many diseased immigrants into the country…aren’t white people already suffering from loss of majority status?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 16, 2021 • 4:02:44am

re: #88 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Record rainfall in Japan causing flooding:

Welcome to the new normal.

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sagehen  Aug 16, 2021 • 4:16:27am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Then they will complain about letting so many diseased immigrants into the country…aren’t white people already suffering from loss of majority status?

those complaints will come from a different “they”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 16, 2021 • 4:31:04am

re: #93 sagehen

those complaints will come from a different “they”.

GOP are capable of complaining about both.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 16, 2021 • 4:32:54am

Because for the past month the outlet flow from the Fagradalsfjall volcano has been to the east, most images and videos have been from vantages east of the volcano, looking west or northwest (or southwest in the case of the weather service stills) towards the eruption.

Rarely to people go to the north side of the volcano.

Here someone did on the 15th:

APPROACHING BOILING VOLCANO AT 200 M. FROM THE NORTH AT MIDNIGHT 15.08

Neat view of lava running around the volcano to its backside.

Also, he walks north a bit, in the dark so he stumbles, but it is striking to see the wall of basalt from the early days of the eruption, lit at night by the distant glow of hot lava.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 4:36:51am

In today’s episode of “we’re still on fire out here in the Old West”:

Air quality is sucky (that’s a technical term) across the whole Panhandle, SE Wyoming, and NE Colorado.

The EPA air quality site for Scottsbluff is still down, so I’m stuck using air quality estimates from Windy.

The Cross fire in Banner and Scott’s Bluff counties has eaten up 2,460 acres
(995 ha). The wind has shifted from the SW. The fire has inched closer to the county seat of Scott’s Bluff County (Gering, 13.2 miles away to the NE)

The Hackberry Fire in Banner and Morrill Counties has grown to 6,177 acres (2,500 ha). The area is extremely rural. Banner County’s Fire Chief is now the incident commander, saying the fire is “mostly contained.” It was fully contained several days ago but jumped the fire breaks, causing several more area fire departments to dispatch firefighters and equipment.

Staging for relief services for firefighters is at the Morrill County Fairgrounds in Bridgeport, where several civic and religious organisations are providing food and shelter for firefighters and support crews.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 16, 2021 • 4:47:21am

I continue to be quite impressed by all the drone footage being done in Fagradalsfjall. Some of these videographers are setting a very high mark for what amateurs can do these days.

Here’s a good video from the eruption on the 14th:

Iceland Geldingadalir Volcano August 14 video with drone

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steve_davis  Aug 16, 2021 • 4:58:44am

re: #9 gocart mozart

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Humpback Mountain.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:02:24am
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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:03:48am
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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:05:41am
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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:06:23am

re: #7 Dread Pirate Ron

UPS is trying some new vehicles, quad e-cargo-bikes.

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that’s like one amazon order

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:07:21am
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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:08:17am

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:14:53am

The South shall get sick again:

My 16 year old, fully vaccinated son, who hasnt seen a classroom in over a year and was one of the few that wore a mask during summer band, asked when we will be going back to virtual learning:

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:16:20am
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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:16:24am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

No.

5 more years?
10?
how many years and how much money would it take to create an army and government with a fighting spirit ready to defend itself?
if we couldnt do it in 20

“now that things have crashed, we shouldnt have done it” is the worst monday morning quarterbacking.

think back say 2 years ago when a decision to stay would have had to be made - cause biden couldnt just reverse the course now. so tfg says we’re staying…

think of how things were then WITHOUT the benefit of actually seeing this collapse happen…who would have supported a continuation with no end in sight?

no one.

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jeffreyw  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:19:46am

Luna

Good morning!

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:22:13am

re: #62 A Three Hour Tour

The clock in the picture does show a three hour difference between London and Moscow.

Now *I’m* confused.

it’s two hours
why are you all believing your own lying eyes? //

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:22:28am

Yeah, imposing your religious or ideological viewpoints on fellow students will get that.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:23:32am

re: #105 Belafon

THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN!!! in child/infant mortality and declining life expectancy metrics

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:24:23am

re: #75 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

What sort of (solar?) charging system are you going to use? I am also assuming you’ll have a spare battery to charge as well.

oh, we ‘camp’ where there’s a power source

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:26:57am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah, imposing your religious or ideological viewpoints on fellow students will get that.

Who knew that “my way or the highway” is not, in fact, an effective way to win friends and influence people.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:32:24am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:34:08am

re: #113 Dopamine Fish

Who knew that “my way or the highway” is not, in fact, an effective way to win friends and influence people.

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:35:18am

gwb left the credit card debt for obama
tfg left this

and while this would have happened under any president and tfg negotiated the deal, i wonder if he considered that *he* might have been president right now

sure biden could have sent 10k troops short term to protect the process

but we all know if the withdrawal was slower, and American troops died trying to help the evacuation, not an R would think of weaponizing that for political gain, right?

i seem to remember Hillary Clinton and Benghazi.
Politics stops at the water’s edge, right?

no. the only option was ‘forever’

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:38:00am

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, it’s the National Review. I expected it to be bullshit. That doesn’t make what we said any less true. In fact, if conservative students were being picked on, I wonder if it’s because even high school students are largely aware that Donald Trump isn’t a god-emperor, but is a sad fat sack of shit whose name will be infamous in history as the leader of the American Genocide, and they’re making fun of kids who say they support him or are delusional enough to say he’s still the President.

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Jay C  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:44:24am

Random thought:
Am I alone in (now) dreading the - likely inevitable - shitshow of lies, bad-faith arguments, hackery and demagoguery the RW is probably going to make out of the 20th anniversary of 9/11 (just four weeks away)?
I just have a sinking feeling that the “Fall of Afghanistan” is going to trigger an hysterical attempt by The Usual Suspects to try to re-create the Great National Freakout over the 9/11/01 attacks* and exploit it (like they did 20 years ago) for political “advantage”.

*the ultimate source of so much grief, IMO: and still an “untouchable” subject in our national discourse.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:46:26am

re: #118 Jay C

Random thought:
Am I alone in (now) dreading the - likely inevitable - shitshow of lies, bad-faith arguments, hackery and demagoguery the RW is probably going to make out of the 20th anniversary of 9/11 (just four weeks away)?
I just have a sinking feeling that the “Fall of Afghanistan” is going to trigger an hysterical attempt by The Usual Suspects to try to re-create the Great National Freakout over the 9/11/01 attacks* and exploit it (like they did 20 years ago) for political “advantage”.

*the ultimate source of so much grief, IMO: and still an “untouchable” subject in our national discourse.

You forgot Joe selling Afghanistan to China.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:47:09am

re: #84 Dave In Austin

Maybe it’s another Sign From God to get the fucking shots, grow the fuck up and be more like Jesus. Maybe.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:50:36am

Don’t know who this guy is. Kate Bolz is the woman who tried to unseat Rep. Fortenberry in the last election.

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Teukka  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:51:36am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

Maybe it’s another Sign From God to get the fucking shots, grow the fuck up and be more like Jesus. Maybe.

I’m both curious and dread what the next sign The Head Honcho will thwap them over the head with will be…🤔

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Jay C  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:52:16am

re: #119 Shropshire Slasher

You forgot Joe selling Afghanistan to China.

I thought that was Hunter? //
(Isn’t that where he got all his “billions” from???) //

PS: probably likely to get lost amid the klaxons, but a good explanation in the Washington Post (possible-paywall alert) about why the “Afghan Government” collapsed as quickly as it did.
TL;DR version: the Taliban mostly didn’t have to fight their way in, they pre-negotiated and (more importantly) pre-paid.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:54:21am

re: #120 A Mom Anon

Maybe it’s another Sign From God to get the fucking shots, grow the fuck up and be more like Jesus. Maybe.

Well, Pope Francis said it was a moral imperative for all Christians to get the vaccine. I guess when you defy your boss you get the consequences of your actions.

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Targetpractice  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:55:32am

re: #89 sagehen

Morning Joe is trying to thread the needle of criticizing Trump for making nice-nice with the Taliban and thus delegitimizing the “official” Afghan govt (letting their people out of prison, talking with them on the phone and saying nice things about them, sending Pompeo to meet with them, trying to invite them to Camp David)… also that the RNC deleted a page from their website that made clear Trump wanted out…

But at the same time, criticizing Biden for not moving with more speed and urgency to approve special immigrant visas and evacuate translators etc before this mess they should have foreseen came crashing down.

Basically the only argument left to blame Biden for all this is that he should have known that the ANA would collapse in a matter of days if not hours and anticipated needing to move tens of thousands of civilians way before the new deadline that he set when it became obvious that the original deadline was unworkable.

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:58:51am

re: #117 Dopamine Fish

Well, it’s the National Review. I expected it to be bullshit. That doesn’t make what we said any less true. In fact, if conservative students were being picked on, I wonder if it’s because even high school students are largely aware that Donald Trump isn’t a god-emperor, but is a sad fat sack of shit whose name will be infamous in history as the leader of the American Genocide, and they’re making fun of kids who say they support him or are delusional enough to say he’s still the President.

i wonder how much ‘conservative high school students’ is a real thing
(or liberal HS students, etc.)

parroting what you’ve been indoctrinated with at home is not conservatism, it’s apery

HS students are no more fully formed conservative voices than they are medical experts capable of evaluating the efficacy of vaccines, masks, and et al

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jeffreyw  Aug 16, 2021 • 5:59:21am

re: #123 Jay C

I thought that was Hunter? //
(Isn’t that where he got all his “billions” from???) //

PS: probably likely to get lost amid the klaxons, but a good explanation in the Washington Post (possible-paywall alert) about why the “Afghan Government” collapsed as quickly as it did.
TL;DR version: the Taliban mostly didn’t have to fight their way in, they pre-negotiated and (more importantly) pre-paid.

They had it on lay-away?

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:00:06am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah, imposing your religious or ideological viewpoints on fellow students will get that.

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And the article is a survey of 250 kids at private schools.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:00:17am

re: #118 Jay C

I have a feeling they’re going to go right back to “liberals love terrorists and hate America” like they did about a month after 9/11. It’s going to be red,white and blue, God Bless America, flags and crosses and liberal hunting license bumper stickers all over again.

I wish Americans would get wise to this “hey, let’s you and him fight” shit that the GOP keeps feeding. They are cowards and bullies and won’t fight themselves because stochastic terrorism is their go to means of stoking hate to remain in power. They don’t even have to get a hair out of place or a wrinkle in their suits to accomplish hatred and division.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:00:43am
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No Malarkey!  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:00:45am

re: #119 Shropshire Slasher

You forgot Joe selling Afghanistan to China.

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:01:42am

re: #118 Jay C

Random thought:
Am I alone in (now) dreading the - likely inevitable - shitshow of lies, bad-faith arguments, hackery and demagoguery the RW is probably going to make out of the 20th anniversary of 9/11 (just four weeks away)?
I just have a sinking feeling that the “Fall of Afghanistan” is going to trigger an hysterical attempt by The Usual Suspects to try to re-create the Great National Freakout over the 9/11/01 attacks* and exploit it (like they did 20 years ago) for political “advantage”.

*the ultimate source of so much grief, IMO: and still an “untouchable” subject in our national discourse.

“9/11 wouldn’t have happened 20 years ago if Trump had been reelected.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:02:33am

re: #126 Dangerman

i wonder how much ‘conservative high school students’ is a real thing
(or liberal HS students, etc.)

parroting what you’ve been indoctrinated with at home is not conservatism it’s apery

HS students are no more fully formed conservative voices than they are medical experts capable of evaluating the efficacy of vaccines, masks, and et al

Conservatism is taught. The National Review tends to equate things like homophobia or racism as conservatism (ever since it was founded).

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:03:37am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Conservatism is taught. The National Review tends to equate things like homophobia or racism as conservatism (ever since it was founded).

Considering that those things do tend to be more prevalent in conservative circles, they’re not entirely wrong.

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:06:43am

re: #125 Targetpractice

Basically the only argument left to blame Biden for all this is that he should have known that the ANA would collapse in a matter of days if not hours and anticipated needing to move tens of thousands of civilians way before the new deadline that he set when it became obvious that the original deadline was unworkable.

they would have spun any action or inaction as early, late, cowardly, expensive, clueless, sleepy, too much, not enough…
temporary increase in troops
starting to withdraw personnel earlier
staging aircraft
creating a screening process for the non-americans coming along
on and on

biden, a politician for like 50 years, I am reasonably confident knew no matter what he did there would be a reaction.
he seems resolute, and consistent and i dont think too much cares about it

sadly, and sorry, in a few months no one’s gonna care any more.
by next year it will be clear this is not a slam dunk winner of a campaign issue for ‘22 or ‘24

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:09:20am

re: #125 Targetpractice

It was a failure of military intelligence. They seem to have overestimated the fighting capability and resolve of the ANA, and likely underestimated the capabilities of the Taliban to successfully conduct a lightning offensive.

Not the first time US military intel has bungled it….and it certainly won’t be the last. Sadly, these things happen (not trying to sound blasé about, BTW).

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:10:04am

re: #129 A Mom Anon

I have a feeling they’re going to go right back to “liberals love terrorists and hate America” like they did about a month after 9/11. It’s going to be red,white and blue, God Bless America, flags and crosses and liberal hunting license bumper stickers all over again.

I wish Americans would get wise to this “hey, let’s you and him fight” shit that the GOP keeps feeding. They are cowards and bullies and won’t fight themselves because stochastic terrorism is their go to means of stoking hate to remain in power. They don’t even have to get a hair out of place or a wrinkle in their suits to accomplish hatred and division.

unless ‘the rich’ are willing to spend their own money and endanger their own children on a specific war, it’s probably not one worth fighting.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:11:41am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:12:19am

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

It was a failure of military intelligence. They seem to have overestimated the fighting capability and resolve of the ANA, and likely underestimated the capabilities of the Taliban to successfully conduct a lightning offensive.

Not the first time US military intel has bungled it….and it certainly won’t be the last. Sadly, these things happen (not trying to sound blasé about, BTW).

I think it’s worse Han that. I think we’ve known all along that all our efforts were for naught. But the $$$ kept pouring in without any pushback because it was “the good war” that everyone wanted in the beginning.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:13:40am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah, imposing your religious or ideological viewpoints on fellow students will get that.

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Hmmm memories of High School…with the big chapter of Young Americans for Freedom filled with Nixon supporters who swamped our 1972 Mock election…Where prayer was done in violation of the Court decision….where “prayer groups” were given carte blanche…and where Jewish kids were continually discriminated against…yet National Racists Online says it’s this poor little right wing snowflakes getting their fee fees hurt in public schools…so we need to go to the voucher system that will destroy public schools…

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A Mom Anon  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:13:51am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I think it also depends where you are. Where I am, conservatives have bullied their way into banning the teaching of relaxation techniques to elementary school students because it’s based on Yoga and that’s teaching them non Christian religion. Those same people raise bullies, my son fell victim to many of them in high school. And when you confront the parents, why, their Very Christian Child would never do something like that, I mean they are on the Special Needs Prom Committee( do not get me started on that bullshit that’s nothing more than a feel good way of excluding kids with disabilities from the Real Prom), and go to church every Sunday, you must be mistaken. They spit tobacco juice on him while he was waiting on the bus(driving by and getting close to do it in front of our house) and on and on.

I spent enough time working with children to know that bullying is a learned behavior. It has to be taught. And usually parents of bullies bully their kids, I’ve seen it over and over. The kids may not be specifically conservative, but I would bet money that their parents are. If you aren’t a member of a church or have a kid that is good at sportsball things, your family is a target, especially once the kids hit middle school and high school. I also don’t give a flying fuck if I am making sweeping generalizations here either. You don’t fix any of this by being nice. It doesn’t work.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:16:07am

re: #141 A Mom Anon

Ah the High School Prom…where teachers told me I would be excluded because I was not welcome…the same teachers who gladly made it clear that they didn’t like Jews all that much…

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No Malarkey!  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:16:22am

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

It was a failure of military intelligence. They seem to have overestimated the fighting capability and resolve of the ANA, and likely underestimated the capabilities of the Taliban to successfully conduct a lightning offensive.

Not the first time US military intel has bungled it….and it certainly won’t be the last. Sadly, these things happen (not trying to sound blasé about, BTW).

It seems like an assertive scout troop could’ve conducted a lightning offensive. The Afghan army had no fight in it, and from what I’ve read about how they were left unfed, unpaid and unsupplied by corrupt higher ups, I can’t blame them.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:17:01am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The COVAX board has agreed to go back to its basic assumptions about vaccinating the world before the end of the year. High on its list: “An updated definition of fair and equitable access.”

[COVAX board (in the future)]: “So, let’s take a look at your GDP. Oh, says here your GDP is $1.65 trillion USD per annum. No. Buy your own, you cheapskates.”

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:21:00am
U.S. military officials privately harbored fundamental doubts for the duration of the war that the Afghan security forces could ever become competent or shed their dependency on U.S. money and firepower.”

Said on unnamed U.S. official in 2016: “Thinking we could build the military that fast and that well was insane.”

“Those fears, rarely expressed in public, were ultimately borne out by the sudden collapse this month of the Afghan security forces, whose wholesale and unconditional surrender to the Taliban will go down as perhaps the worst debacle in the history of proxy warfare

Wapo

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:22:39am
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Florida Panhandler  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:22:44am

re: #143 No Malarkey!

And this Taliban fiasco should serve as a direct warning for our own country as a militant and motivated fundamentalist Christian religious movement seeks control over an entire, much more diverse population. What the Taliban have accomplished without so much as one official battle operation is exactly going to serve as a model for how Republicans will operate going forward starting in 2022.

If Republicans win the House, they will swiftly move to legislate and amplify a complete fundamentalist takeover over a disorganized, unmotivated opposition without firing a shot.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:24:55am

re: #142 JOE 🥓

Ah the High School Prom…where teachers told me I would be excluded because I was not welcome…the same teachers who gladly made it clear that they didn’t like Jews all that much…

And I was told I would not be welcome because I was poor and my mother was single.

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:25:51am

re: #147 Florida Panhandler

And this Taliban fiasco should serve as a direct warning for our own country as a militant and motivated fundamentalist Christian religious movement seeks control over an entire, much more diverse population. What the Taliban have accomplished without so much as one official battle operation is exactly going to serve as a model for how Republicans will operate going forward starting in 2022.

If Republicans win the House, they will swiftly move to legislate and amplify a complete fundamentalist takeover over a disorganized, unmotivated opposition without firing a shot.

1. They still won’t have the presidency.
2. A disorganized, unmotivated opposition wouldn’t have won Arizona or Georgia.

This doesn’t mean we don’t have a fight on our hands.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:28:19am

re: #147 Florida Panhandler

And this Taliban fiasco should serve as a direct warning for our own country as a militant and motivated fundamentalist Christian religious movement seeks control over an entire, much more diverse population. What the Taliban have accomplished without so much as one official battle operation is exactly going to serve as a model for how Republicans will operate going forward starting in 2022.

If Republicans win the House, they will swiftly move to legislate and amplify a complete fundamentalist takeover over a disorganized, unmotivated opposition without firing a shot.

But that’s what Republicans want. They want to trigger race riots by taking away the vote from people of color. Riots will only inflame the racist white base of the QAP even more.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:29:33am

Trump would’ve left them all behind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:29:59am
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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:33:33am

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I see Ronna ROMNEY McDoofus is having Winston Smith work overtime in the propaganda department…

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:34:06am

re: #135 Dangerman

Some of the proof

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:34:31am
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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:37:06am

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I reiterate
Trump almost could have been president right now; overseeing this.
on top of his certain covid disaster

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:37:32am
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No Malarkey!  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:41:02am
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:41:35am

re: #156 Dangerman

I reiterate
Trump almost could have been president right now; overseeing this
on top of his certain covid disaster

Trump would’ve forced the withdrawal in May, regardless of logistics, and left tens of thousands of Afghans behind to die. And Republicans would have praised him for “getting out while the getting was good,” and not losing any more American lives as the Taliban took back their country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:42:04am
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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:46:26am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Viet nam we left the dogs

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Targetpractice  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:46:58am

re: #159 Dopamine Fish

Trump would’ve forced the withdrawal in May, regardless of logistics, and left tens of thousands of Afghans behind to die. And Republicans would have praised him for “getting out while the getting was good,” and not losing any more American lives as the Taliban took back their country.

“But thousands of people who helped us will die at the hands of the Taliban!”

“Hey, they had their chance to leave! If they chose to stay, that’s on them! Trump got us out, that’s what’s important!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:47:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:47:41am

re: #161 Dangerman

Viet nam we left the dogs

I remember

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:49:06am
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William Lewis  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:49:09am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sorry but we’re evacuating DOGS while translators and other human allies who will be tortured and murdered for helping us are left behind. That’s sick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:51:55am

re: #166 William Lewis

I’m sorry but we’re evacuating DOGS while translators and other human allies who will be tortured and murdered for helping us are left behind. That’s sick.

didn’t realize that it was an either or situation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:52:02am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:53:31am
With a new victim of the coronavirus dying every two minutes, deaths are soaring in Iran, with infections from the new Delta variant skyrocketing and hospitals overfilled.

There are also widespread shortages of oxygen cylinders and other materials as many Iranians are furious with their leaders over a vaccination campaign that lags far behind other countries.

“The situation is catastrophic,” says Amir Ali Savadkuhi, the president of Iran’s Intensive Care Association. “Hospitals have reached their limit…. Sometimes they just wait for patients to die because there is no treatment [available] for this [number] of admissions.”

With the daily official death toll surpassing a record 500 people for the past several days, health experts say the real number of dead and infected is likely to be significantly higher than the reported figures.

Iran has officially recorded over 4 million coronavirus cases since the start of the pandemic and more than 96,000 deaths, numbers that analysts say are underreported.

Many hospitals have run out of beds and overflow areas have been converted to deal with the rise in new cases. With some patients being cared for on the floor, there are warnings that the country’s health system is on the verge of collapse.

(more)

Iran Faces ‘Tsunami’ Of COVID-19 Infections, Deaths (Radio Free Europe)

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:55:16am

re: #166 William Lewis

I’m sorry but we’re evacuating DOGS while translators and other human allies who will be tortured and murdered for helping us are left behind. That’s sick.

We are evacuating both, but I bet you don’t put those dogs with other people.

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ericblair  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:55:22am

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

It was a failure of military intelligence. They seem to have overestimated the fighting capability and resolve of the ANA, and likely underestimated the capabilities of the Taliban to successfully conduct a lightning offensive.

Not the first time US military intel has bungled it….and it certainly won’t be the last. Sadly, these things happen (not trying to sound blasé about, BTW).

When you hear this, consider who you’re hearing it from. The intelligence community doesn’t talk to the press much, but the politicians and flunkies who are supposed to be making the decisions do. So, like the fall of the USSR, a number of intelligence assessments were made that weren’t wrong, but complex and caveated, and got fed through the political sausage grinder. Then the usual suspects with White House reporters on speed dial work their magic to blame any fuckups and miscalculations on somebody else.

In this case, there’s a whole herd of people, inside the DoD and out, who knew this was going to happen and just wanted to put it off until they were nice and retired and on the golf course, instead of having to eat some crow and creatively rewrite their resumes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:55:33am

I’ve noticed that in all of the videos of people swarming the planes, the steps, the skyways, it’s all men.
Not one single woman, even though women are seen rushing to the airfield.

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:57:41am
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William Lewis  Aug 16, 2021 • 6:59:38am

re: #170 Belafon

We are evacuating both, but I bet you don’t put those dogs with other people.

Every seat those dogs are wasting could hold several humans. Sorry, I know people love dogs but they should have left them behind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:00:21am
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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:01:59am

re: #174 William Lewis

Every seat those dogs are wasting could hold several humans. Sorry, I know people love dogs but they should have left them behind.

“I know we love our soldiers but civilians should come first.”

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:04:55am

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve noticed that in all of the videos of people swarming the planes, the steps, the skyways, it’s all men.
Not one single woman, even though women are seen rushing to the airfield.

Yes, I noticed that, too.

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:05:46am

It’s gut wrenching making any of these choices, but I’m pretty sure that a number of these dog handlers would have remained behind had we tried to leave the dogs.

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:06:21am

re: #171 ericblair

When you hear this, consider who you’re hearing it from. The intelligence community doesn’t talk to the press much, but the politicians and flunkies who are supposed to be making the decisions do. So, like the fall of the USSR, a number of intelligence assessments were made that weren’t wrong, but complex and caveated, and got fed through the political sausage grinder. Then the usual suspects with White House reporters on speed dial work their magic to blame any fuckups and miscalculations on somebody else.

In this case, there’s a whole herd of people, inside the DoD and out, who knew this was going to happen and just wanted to put it off until they were nice and retired and on the golf course, instead of having to eat some crow and creatively rewrite their resumes.

+1

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:06:45am

Cheer up, gang: At least Rush Limbaugh is still dead.

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darthstar  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:07:05am

Wear a mask…

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darthstar  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:07:50am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Cheer up, gang: At least Rush Limbaugh is still dead.

Thanks…I needed the lift.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:08:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:09:48am
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darthstar  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:11:22am

Afghanistan’s a hot mess but if US Troops aren’t getting killed there, it won’t be an issue for voters next year.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:12:36am

re: #185 darthstar

Afghanistan’s a hot mess but if US Troops aren’t getting killed there, it won’t be an issue for voters next year.

Oh don’t bet on that. Republicans are already beating the Benghazi drums on this…

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:12:57am

re: #185 darthstar

Afghanistan’s a hot mess but if US Troops aren’t getting killed there, it won’t be an issue for voters next year.

By this time next year, it’ll be “Afghanianianistan? Where’s that? Never heard of it…is it in Eastern Europe or something?”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:16:13am

re: #187 Dr Lizardo

I wonder how many of the MAGAts who are trying to make this withdrawal into an anti-Biden thing could actually find Afghanistan on a map?

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:17:09am

re: #186 JOE 🥓

Oh don’t bet on that. Republicans are already beating the Benghazi drums on this…

I doubt “President Biden, why didn’t you leave troops behind?” will work as well as they think.

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Jay C  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:18:50am

re: #186 JOE 🥓

Oh don’t bet on that. Republicans are already beating the Benghazi drums on this…

I dunno: I’m sure they’ll try, but I think that drumbeat is going to get a bit muffled once they realize most of the Afghanistan drawdown was Trump’s plan…..

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steve_davis  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:19:49am

re: #99 Dave In Austin

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Yeah, I listened to about 30 seconds of that on SiriusXM and said, “shut up, Mika,” before switching to Underground Garage.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:19:53am
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No Malarkey!  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:21:41am

re: #188 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I wonder how many of the MAGAts who are trying to make this withdrawal into an anti-Biden thing could actually find Afghanistan on a map?

I know TFG couldn’t. I doubt he could find Melania’s home country on a map.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:22:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:24:39am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:24:43am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:24:55am

re: #192 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Well, that puts me in an angry, shitty mood for a Monday.

But thank you for sharing. We shouldn’t look away from this.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:25:06am

(Friendly Atheist)

Disney Channel Actress Cites Bible in Insane Anti-Mask Rant to TN School Board

In case you ever need more evidence that the Bible can be used to justify the dumbest ideas, former actress Leigh-Allyn Baker spoke at a recent meeting of the Williamson County Board of Education in Tennessee, where she argued against the district’s recently instituted mask mandate.


Her rant went viral this week partly because people recognize her, but mostly because everything she said was batshit crazy. In her mind, masks deprive people of oxygen. Which will be a shock to those of us who have worn masks in public spaces for well over a year now and somehow still found a way to breathe….

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:25:30am

Man Pleads Guilty to Making ‘Dead Men Can’t Pass S*** Laws’ Threats Against Senator Raphael Warnock

Asshole Keyboard Kommando who couldn’t get a ride to DC for the attempted coup still was fucking stupid enough to threaten to kill Rev. Warnock. And when the FBI paid a visit…oh they found a treasure trove…an NRA wet dream…

lawandcrime.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:27:15am

Crazy rant (1:19)

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:27:31am

re: #192 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

About a week away from having to triage.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:28:46am

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Here in Czech Republic, we wear N95 respirators in shops and on public transit. Amazingly, I have no problems breathing whatsoever.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:29:20am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Crazy rant (1:19)

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And she played a nurse on “Good Luck Charlie”…

Let that sink in.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:30:16am

re: #203 JOE 🥓

And she played a nurse on “Good Luck Charlie”…

Let that sink in.

She played one on TV, that doesn’t mean she is one. Though I could see people using that as an appeal to authority anyway; it’s never stopped ‘em before.

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steve_davis  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:30:27am

re: #129 A Mom Anon

I have a feeling they’re going to go right back to “liberals love terrorists and hate America” like they did about a month after 9/11. It’s going to be red,white and blue, God Bless America, flags and crosses and liberal hunting license bumper stickers all over again.

I wish Americans would get wise to this “hey, let’s you and him fight” shit that the GOP keeps feeding. They are cowards and bullies and won’t fight themselves because stochastic terrorism is their go to means of stoking hate to remain in power. They don’t even have to get a hair out of place or a wrinkle in their suits to accomplish hatred and division.

Most Americans are very glad we’re out of Afghanistan. We’ve been there for 20 years. We could have taken every child born since we’ve been there, made them Janisseries, and created an elite military, but instead we allowed military leaders to do what they traditionally do—bullshit themselves and others—into believing we could take a bunch of clan-bound illiterate opium growers and turn them into some version of a western elite force.

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:32:20am

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(Friendly Atheist)

Disney Channel Actress Cites Bible in Insane Anti-Mask Rant to TN School Board

every time i hear “masks deprive people of oxygen” i want someone to say “here’s a mask, here’s a pulse oximeter*, prove it”

* you know - walgreens $20

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:33:05am

re: #204 Dopamine Fish

She played one on TV, that doesn’t mean she is one. Though I could see people using that as an appeal to authority anyway; it’s never stopped ‘em before.

it’s how advertising works

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:34:42am

re: #206 Dangerman

every time i hear “masks deprive people of oxygen” i want someone to say “here’s a mask, here’s a pulse oximeter*, prove it”

* you know - walgreens $20

I had one of those at home BEFORE Covid. It’s come in quite handy since if I ever want to reassure myself my oxygen levels are okay.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:34:45am

re: #206 Dangerman

every time i hear “masks deprive people of oxygen” i want someone to say “here’s a mask, here’s a pulse oximeter*, prove it”

* you know - walgreens $20

I love the videos of people claiming the vaccine magnetized them failing to get a piece of metal to stick to their arm.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:35:09am

Remember folks!

20 years in Afghanistan = 40 Friedman Units…or “F.U’s” for sure…

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KingKenrod  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:35:26am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Wait until winter”…maybe that should have occurred to the guy who scheduled the original withdrawal date in MAY…

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steve_davis  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:35:36am

re: #147 Florida Panhandler

And this Taliban fiasco should serve as a direct warning for our own country as a militant and motivated fundamentalist Christian religious movement seeks control over an entire, much more diverse population. What the Taliban have accomplished without so much as one official battle operation is exactly going to serve as a model for how Republicans will operate going forward starting in 2022.

If Republicans win the House, they will swiftly move to legislate and amplify a complete fundamentalist takeover over a disorganized, unmotivated opposition without firing a shot.

I’m not that worried. The Taliban are seasoned, veteran fighters. Our keyboard commandos wouldn’t last a day going up against regular troops.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:38:06am

re: #209 No Malarkey!

I love the videos of people claiming the vaccine magnetized them failing to get a piece of metal to stick to their arm.

It happens with plastic, too! HELP!

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:38:31am

re: #209 No Malarkey!

I love the videos of people claiming the vaccine magnetized them failing to get a piece of metal to stick to their arm.

they dont have the brains to say ‘it’s a weak force’

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danarchy  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:40:05am

re: #211 KingKenrod

“Wait until winter”…maybe that should have occurred to the guy who scheduled the original withdrawal date in MAY…

I freaking hate Trump, but this whole Trump tied Biden’s hands thing is bullshit. Biden already changed the withdrawal date once and very well could have cancelled the whole thing, as the Taliban hadn’t even pretended to live up to their end of the deal. I am not saying he should have, but Biden is POTUS and he made the call and he should own it and explain why it was the right decision.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:40:42am
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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:43:48am

Let’s check in with Jason Deadbeat Daddy and see how Gettr is going.

ON THE OTHER HAND…we better not…

In the latest scandal to hit fledgling Gettr, users of the new pro-Trump social media platform have been allowed to share child-exploitation images.

rawstory.com

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darthstar  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:46:40am

re: #213 JOE 🥓

It happens with plastic, too! HELP!

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Damn…that’s forked up.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:50:59am
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darthstar  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:55:03am

Heh…someone near by is poaching our guest wifi signal. Manuel-Sr. Probably some guy working on the house across the street. This is why I have a guest network.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:55:56am

re: #220 darthstar

Heh…someone near by is poaching our guest wifi signal. Manuel-Sr. Probably some guy working on the house across the street. This is why I have a guest network.

Throttle them down to 2kbps at random points in the day and indulge in an evil laugh.

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danarchy  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:56:51am

re: #220 darthstar

Heh…someone near by is poaching our guest wifi signal. Manuel-Sr. Probably some guy working on the house across the street. This is why I have a guest network.

So strangers can download kiddie porn through your IP and get you in trouble with the FBI?

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 7:57:56am

Asshole breaks thru police lines, dares them to shoot him, beats cops, gets home confinement, whines that he can’t walk his dog.

WHY THE FUCK WASN’T THIS TUB OF LARD LOCKED UP?

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:03:05am

re: #215 danarchy

I freaking hate Trump, but this whole Trump tied Biden’s hands thing is bullshit. Biden already changed the withdrawal date once and very well could have cancelled the whole thing, as the Taliban hadn’t even pretended to live up to their end of the deal. I am not saying he should have, but Biden is POTUS and he made the call and he should own it and explain why it was the right decision.

He did, from Saturday:

When I came to office, I inherited a deal cut by my predecessor—which he invited the Taliban to discuss at Camp David on the eve of 9/11 of 2019—that left the Taliban in the strongest position militarily since 2001 and imposed a May 1, 2021 deadline on U.S. Forces. Shortly before he left office, he also drew U.S. Forces down to a bare minimum of 2,500. Therefore, when I became President, I faced a choice—follow through on the deal, with a brief extension to get our Forces and our allies’ Forces out safely, or ramp up our presence and send more American troops to fight once again in another country’s civil conflict. I was the fourth President to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan—two Republicans, two Democrats. I would not, and will not, pass this war onto a fifth.

whitehouse.gov

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No Malarkey!  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:03:49am

Pro-covid Ky State Rep Bill Wesley is, of course, a member of the “Pro-Life” Caucus.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:04:54am

LAPD in full coverup mode for their Proud Boy pals.

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darthstar  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:06:25am

re: #222 danarchy

So strangers can download kiddie porn through your IP and get you in trouble with the FBI?

That never crossed my mind. It’s far more likely he’s making a wifi call to Mexico. Cell signals suck around here.

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:06:50am

re: #220 darthstar

Heh…someone near by is poaching our guest wifi signal. Manuel-Sr. Probably some guy working on the house across the street. This is why I have a guest network.

we dont broadcast so it would take somewhat of an expert to piggyback on us

and closer to any of the towns is a much richer target

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:08:06am

re: #108 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:08:07am

Why I keep a lockout on my wireless…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:09:49am

re: #228 Dangerman

we dont broadcast so it would take somewhat of an expert to piggyback on us

and closer to any of the towns is a much richer target

I only open the WiFi guest account to cover the parts of the park the library doesn’t cover during the annual town party.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:10:58am

When feral conservatives don’t get their way, they get violent.

An elementary school teacher was beaten on the first day of the new semester by a father angry about a mask mandate (MSN)

A teacher had to be hospitalized after he was attacked by a parent who was angry about a mask mandate at an elementary school in Amador County, California, on Wednesday, NBC reported.

The incident occurred when the parent, who was picking up his daughter from Sutter Creek Elementary School, saw her wearing a face covering, in line with the school district’s COVID-19 policy.

The father proceeded to get into a heated argument with the school principal over the matter, in which he allegedly called the situation a “conspiracy” and claimed children “are being treated like animals,” according to CNN.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:12:33am

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

By the way, the police department did not arrest the father for his battery on a teacher.

They say they are still investigating.

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:17:14am

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When feral conservatives don’t get their way, they get violent.

An elementary school teacher was beaten on the first day of the new semester by a father angry about a mask mandate (MSN)

(more)

that’s certainly a controlled, proportional and appropriate reaction to…what harm exactly??

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:23:38am

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When feral conservatives don’t get their way, they get violent.

An elementary school teacher was beaten on the first day of the new semester by a father angry about a mask mandate (MSN)

(more)

That’s in the red part of California. Guess their police department is also all in with the Proud Boys since those assholes are involved in violent acts in that area as well.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:25:53am

According to a report from the Washington Times, a scattering of Republican lawmakers who attended MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell’s three-day “cyber symposium” in South Dakota are still undeterred in their belief that he will one day come through with irrefutable evidence of 2020 presidential election fraud that deprived Donald Trump of a second term.

I won’t link to the Moonie Paper. Will link to Raw Story.

rawstory.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:28:07am

re: #236 JOE 🥓

Just like the fucking cult followers who believe the fake Messiah no matter how many times he gets the exact date of the end of the world wrong.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:33:28am

Nice to see Larry Elder flooding Raw Story with election ads. Only makes me detest that asshole even more than before.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:40:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:43:20am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:47:29am

re: #213 JOE 🥓

I see tape Joe!!

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:49:01am

re: #241 Dave In Austin

I see tape Joe!!

*waves hand in a Jedi fashion* You don’t see any tape.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:49:32am

re: #241 Dave In Austin

I see tape Joe!!

the tape is also magnetic!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:50:16am
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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:50:30am

re: #241 Dave In Austin

I see tape Joe!!

What tape?

Oh it must be that Deep State messing with my picture! 🥴

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:50:31am

These are truly depressing moments. The irony this morning of the horrific video of men falling from our aircraft gave me chills and re-ingnited the nightmarish Falling Man memories from 9/11. The same desperation, the same end with a thud. I just can’t disconnect the two in my head.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:50:47am

Carlson: ‘We Would Definitely Have a Higher Vaccination Rate if They Just Treated Us Like Adults — But They Can’t’ (Breitbart)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:54:46am

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hey Tucker, how about if we treat you to dart guns with vaccines?

249
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:56:02am

meanwhile in Kentucky

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 16, 2021 • 8:59:56am

re: #206 Dangerman

every time i hear “masks deprive people of oxygen” i want someone to say “here’s a mask, here’s a pulse oximeter*, prove it”

* you know - walgreens $20

Make it interesting and put real money on it. Loser has to publicly admit they’re wrong on their social media accounts.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:08:13am

Here’s Doug Bradley (Pinhead from the Hellraiser films) reading H.P. Lovecraft’s “The Outsider”.

Doug Bradley reads The Outsider by H.P.Lovecraft

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:12:18am

talkingpointsmemo.com

President Biden has a long memory; the events of 2009-10, when then-President Obama was jammed by the military leadership into what proved to be an aimless, futile surge of US forces into Afghanistan, have to be a major factor in his thinking. A more deliberate, better planned withdrawal would have been preferable to what we are seeing now in many respects — notably, to get more of America’s Afghan friends out of the country.

Had Biden directed a withdrawal of this kind, how would the US military leadership have responded? If Biden suspected the response would have been a months-long campaign of foot-dragging and leaking — to pressure him toward the military’s preferred course of staying in Afghanistan indefinitely — would he have been wrong?

I misjudge the man if he were not convinced this very thing would happen. There seems little question that 99% of the impetus for withdrawing now from Afghanistan, in a way that cannot be reversed, is coming from Biden personally. As a matter of strategy, and as one of keeping faith with Afghans who depended on us, this withdrawal is suboptimal. Biden is fully responsible for it.

But from his point of view it probably looks like the best option available — the others being, respectively, no withdrawal at all and a protracted, semi-public tug-of-war with senior military officers deeply invested in putting off unpleasant decisions about an Afghan project that has defined so many military careers. Biden looks determined not to let the military leadership do to him what it did to Obama a decade ago.

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:12:55am

re: #241 Dave In Austin

I see tape Joe!!

i thought it was a staple

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Dangerman  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:14:13am

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hey Tucker, how about if we treat you to dart guns with vaccines?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:16:39am

Two more of my anti-vaxxer friends (who survived Covid pre-Delta) have decided to get the shot.

Why? They have a two year girl and they very much want to see her grow up.

That’s at least 20 people I know who have gotten or will get their first shot in the past five weeks. It’s still VERY much an uphill battle in the South, but slowly enough some people are starting to get it.

256
Teukka  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:20:04am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

Soo? The Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China appear in on the fix?

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William Lewis  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:21:17am

re: #255 Eclectic Cyborg

All my southern friends are pro vax or they’ve told their friends to “Fuck off” till they get the poke. I’m so glad my woman is an academic PhD and hence really respects academic and lab qualifications.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:22:11am

re: #178 Belafon

It’s gut wrenching making any of these choices, but I’m pretty sure that a number of these dog handlers would have remained behind had we tried to leave the dogs.

And aren’t the dogs also very expensive highly trained soldiers? People have refused to evacuate from hurricanes because in the past shelters would not accept their dogs.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:24:46am

re: #257 William Lewis

I have told my anti-vax friends that until cases are way down or they get vaccinated there are strict conditions on how and when I will see them. For now, that means outdoors somewhere I can easily distance. And if anyone says shit about my mask if I decide to wear one, I leave. So far, this has been workable.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:24:56am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:25:14am

Being reported in Czech media that the US has frozen all Afghan assets.

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darthstar  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:26:31am

Josh Marshall has a pretty good take on Afghanistan. 700,000 troops and an air force and they fall to 30K Taliban in a week?

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:27:46am
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darthstar  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:28:25am

re: #255 Eclectic Cyborg

Two more of my anti-vaxxer friends (who survived Covid pre-Delta) have decided to get the shot.

Why? They have a two year girl and they very much want to see her grow up.

That’s at least 20 people I know who have gotten or will get their first shot in the past five weeks. It’s still VERY much an uphill battle in the South, but slowly enough some people are starting to get it.

That’s a good way to talk people into getting vaxxed. Who do you want to adopt your children after you die?

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darthstar  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:29:25am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll take empty threats for $1000, Alex.

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mmmirele  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:30:10am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Don’t know who this guy is. Kate Bolz is the woman who tried to unseat Rep. Fortenberry in the last election.

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Adrian Fontes is a good guy who was given shit by the GOP. He’s one of the reasons AZ went for Biden, because he really made sure to expand the franchise when he was Maricopa County Recorder. He was replaced by a stupid Republican, but that R and the Rs who are county supervisors are now seeing how crazy their party can get. There are some R types (like Wendy Rogers) who want to arrest the county supervisors for refusing to turn over routers to the Cyber Ninjas for investigation.

Routers.

ROUTERS.

I cannot even begin to tell you how dumb that is, and my knowledge of technology is mostly of the “jack of all trades, master of none” type.

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jaunte  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:30:32am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

Abbott is working harder to spread the virus than he worked for his $9 million tree payout.

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:32:57am

Biden will be speaking about Afghanistan at 3:45 pm eastern.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:34:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:36:22am
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Teukka  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:36:34am

Over/under on the Taliban beginning to use CoViD as biological warfare? Either directly or indirectly as a bargaining chip. Serious Q.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:37:52am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:38:33am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

Offhand, kinda sounds like Kolomoisky borrowed a page from Goodfellas and decided to bust the joint out.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:39:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:39:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:41:04am
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mmmirele  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:42:21am

I managed to get through my on call weekend without getting called—which is a first, but something broke after my on call shift ended and it gave me great pleasure to roll over and say, “aw nope.” And I’m not working today because I have to get some “you are now becoming an old lady” tests done.

As preparation for the old lady tests, I was told to not do two things I normally do every morning as part of my get up and get around routine. So I didn’t do those two things and my ASD is really kicking my ass this morning.

ubPZ9RE4vmSZ7Mvk1mZc0IdT6jBui+P3WMiC5axRtzEhFnc4hxNYk2LOKy9WIgq7bRayAT4d+OTKCQNga1nnRzFzV0/Gh39i/+RCduRqMeqoBE3qWm5w0Q==

Oh well, got to just get on with it and not let my little weirdnesses get in the way of progress. I did get my hair colored this morning, so I now do not look like my hair is grayer than my 81 YO mother’s hair.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:43:39am

Honestly, I respect Biden for this (Afghanistan).

He had to know he was going to take a ton of shit for what would happen but still decided to go through with it anyway.

That’s understanding a calculated risk.

That’s doing what’s necessary.

That’s leadership.

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William Lewis  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:45:47am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s leadership.

This.

Amen.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:46:37am

re: #260 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

But wait…there’s more!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:47:44am

re: #280 JOE 🥓

Let them eat each other.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:50:19am
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sagehen  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:53:12am

re: #261 Dr Lizardo

Being reported in Czech media that the US has frozen all Afghan assets.

later we can use that money as ransom to get the people we didn’t leave enough time for now.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 16, 2021 • 9:55:04am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 16, 2021 • 10:01:02am

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