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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:08:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:10:30pm
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No Malarkey!  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:12:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:13:04pm
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No Malarkey!  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:14:53pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Is the dog named Sheldon?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:18:15pm

re: #3 No Malarkey!

She just declares vaccines unsafe and ineffective, as if that makes it true. Living in a narcissistic inner world is going to put her through a world of hurt.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:18:32pm

Florida Republicans dropping like flies. This one was a leading proponent of the Big Lie. CL’d from previous thread. sorryantivaxxer.com

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EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:24:02pm

re: #3 No Malarkey!

Sadly, the expensive Regeneron treatment is likely to keep this aggressively stupid idiot alive.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:26:45pm

This is pretty freaky.

Cosby’s own uncle Ernest Walton believes Cosby is running a “cult,” saying his mother would be disappointed. “I think it’s an abomination,” he says. “Everything’s coming out into the light now and everything’s coming down.”

A second former male member, who requested to have his name withheld and was at the church for 25 years before leaving in around 2018, says Williams was spot on with what he told Barlow. “It’s cultish what they’ve done,” he says. “It’s the mental manipulation to try to get people to believe that she has power to either take them to heaven or condemn them to hell.”

“It’s not a joke,” says Abby, a former member raised in the church who left age 22 in the late 1990s, and requested to have her full name withheld because a close relative is still an active member. “She’s got these people terrified. That woman is the most evil thing that ever walked this Earth. You have no idea, all those smiles and shit—that is not real.”

Is This ‘Real Housewives’ Star Really Running a Cult? Ex-Church Members Say Yes (The Daily Beast)

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TedStriker  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:29:15pm

From the comment thread on Stonekettle’s post yesterday:

Daniel September 16, 2021 at 1:19 PM
Is it just me, or do the GOPs actions toward Representative Occasio-Cortez echo how they jumped on every single thing that Hillary Clinton did when she was first lady?

They harped on her every move, including the infamous “Hillary-care.” The end result? Their base was primed with 20+ years worth of anger and conspiracy theories. They didn’t -need- to stir up hate toward her, they were already stirred.

I see the same thing happening now. They’re preparing for her eventual presidential run by priming the hate pump now.

And, this is what we shouldn’t forget: “conservatives” see AOC as a long-term threat; since they were able to slander and libel Hillary with great success for decades and kept her from the White House, they’re just gonna run the same playbook with AOC.

From their POV, it’s a no-brainer…

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:30:23pm

re: #11 TedStriker

They know who they are afraid of.

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TedStriker  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:30:49pm

re: #12 retired cynic

They know who they are afraid of.

From what I’ve seen of AOC so far, they should be.

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:36:57pm

I don’t know where I got this, so I hope it wasn’t here!

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darthstar  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:38:58pm

re: #3 No Malarkey!

Shit. She got the regeneron. Well, I hope she has a long, slow recovery.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:40:12pm

re: #15 darthstar

Shit. She got the regeneron. Well, I hope she has a long, slow recovery.

Funny how eager they are for an experimental treatment that has a decent chance of not working and has side effects that are as bad as the disease, but absolutely refuse to accept a proven preventive treatment that is highly effective and highly safe.

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darthstar  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:47:05pm

re: #16 Dopamine Fish

Funny how eager they are for an experimental treatment that has a decent chance of not working and has side effects that are as bad as the disease, but absolutely refuse to accept a proven preventive treatment that is highly effective and highly safe.

Regeneron reduces the risk of death of hospitalized Covid-19 patients by about 20%. Can’t see why anyone would want to argue with that efficacy when taking the vaccine only has 95% efficacy in preventing illness overall.

So Loomer isn’t out of the running for a Herman Cain award yet.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:47:15pm

New Page, some very local photography.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:52:50pm

My county is doing good on vaccinations

…and my city is at 89.1%/84.7%

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JOE 🥓  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:53:16pm

Why is Baby Scooter Wheels trending on Twitter?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:55:56pm

re: #17 darthstar

We couldn’t possibly be that lucky.

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darthstar  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:56:01pm

re: #20 JOE 🥓

Why is Baby Scooter Wheels trending on Twitter?

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I so want airlines to mandate vaccines for flights. Gotta wear my mask for 5 1/2 hours on the flight home tomorrow…have a soft fabric one my wife’s aunt sewed early in Covid. Fits over the face well but doesn’t yank on the ears too bad.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:58:27pm

re: #3 No Malarkey!

Lol

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2021 • 6:59:08pm
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jaunte  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:02:32pm

Texas, though.

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Dangerman  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:03:20pm

re: #20 JOE 🥓

Why is Baby Scooter Wheels trending on Twitter?

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Flying ain’t in the constitution
Qed

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darthstar  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:03:53pm

re: #24 Dread Pirate Ron

Paging Anonymous…a little help with financial record retrieval on aisle five, please. Oh, wait…not THOSE books!

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darthstar  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:04:48pm

re: #25 jaunte

If it was, there’d only be Chik-Fil-A to eat and it’d only be open on Sundays.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:05:19pm

re: #16 Dopamine Fish

Funny how eager they are for an experimental treatment that has a decent chance of not working and has side effects that are as bad as the disease, but absolutely refuse to accept a proven preventive treatment that is highly effective and highly safe.

It’s being pushed as a preventative now. I would not be surprised if people invested in this are intentionally making idiots afraid of vaccines to create a market for an expensive product that would not be all that useful if people would just vaccinate.

cen.acs.org

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:06:56pm

re: #29 Punish Domestic Terrorists

It’s being pushed as a preventative now. I would not be surprised if people invested in this are intentionally making idiots afraid of vaccines to create a market for an expensive product that would not be all that useful if people would just vaccinate.

cen.acs.org

Fuck a duck. They really are committing ritual seppuku - with a goddamned gilded blade!

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:08:33pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:13:29pm
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Dangerman  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:21:57pm

Key lesson from CA recall: we will turn out en masse to protect ourselves from malevolent incompetence and dipshittery.

Also watch “no” close in on nearly 8m when they’re all counted

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darthstar  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:24:24pm

re: #30 Dopamine Fish

Fuck a duck. They really are committing ritual seppuku - with a goddamned gilded blade!

Now DeSantis will want to give it to everyone in Florida instead of the vaccine.

In other news, it looks like Saturday’s rally is going to look more like a Lindell event.

A number of posters on forums like TheDonald and 4chan claim that Saturday’s rally is a “false flag” or “honeypot” intended to coerce and entrap attendees into committing violent acts. One TheDonald poster who took part in the insurrection said bluntly, “Any protest after J6 is primed to be a false flag.” A Telegram channel for the Proud Boys sounded a similar warning, saying not only that the Proud Boys weren’t coming, but warning that the rally was a trap. Also on Telegram, rabidly pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood warned that “a large rally this weekend in D. C. is a bad idea.”

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Dangerman  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:25:19pm

If it wasn’t so damned pathetic and inept….

Trump’s lawyers had a ‘law school 101 discussion’ about explaining to him how the Supreme Court works, book says

Trump’s lawyers had to tell him being mad over the election wasn’t enough cause to sue, a book says.

“Why don’t we just get up to the Supreme Court directly?” he asked, according to the book.

That prompted a “tense, basic, law school 101 discussion” about how to explain the court to Trump.

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ckkatz  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:26:18pm
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ckkatz  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:29:02pm

And another. This artwork should be titled ‘Moron Labe’:

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ckkatz  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:31:28pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:33:09pm
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ckkatz  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:35:23pm

re: #34 darthstar

Another issue with the rally, I think, is that many of the thugs are basically cowards and bullies. If you stand and fight, and they realize that it might be closer to a fairer fight, a lot of them suddenly lose interest.

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darthstar  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:37:44pm

re: #40 ckkatz

Another issue with the rally, I think, is that many of the thugs are basically cowards and bullies. If you stand and fight, and they realize that it might be closer to a fairer fight, a lot of them suddenly lose interest.

“Brah…I’m not going up against the police. That’s 10 years minimum.” - now that they see some of their idols having spent 8 months in jail just awaiting trial and sentencing, they’re starting to rethink their loyalties.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:39:22pm

Just want to mention that there are a few billionaires who aren’t terrible politicians and who care about their communities. Our governor Pritzker is a billionaire and is dedicated to helping the average citizens; he even made a serious effort at changing the state’s income tax to a graduated tax so that the wealthier can pay a higher share of taxes. Of course, he is a life-long Democrat and not a Republican which means a totally different perspective on public service. Yes — he’s made mistakes — but he’s not there to strip citizens of their rights or deliberately let a deadly virus wreak havoc in his state.

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ckkatz  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:42:38pm
…snip…

On Thursday morning, as flames rushed toward the storied Giant Forest in Sequoia National Park, where fire was expected to hit the grove of some 2,000 big trees within 24 hours, crews were wrapping sequoias with aluminum insulation, digging protective lines around the titans and planning to light back burns to push away the approaching flames.

The Colony Fire, one of two blazes that make up the fast-moving 9,365-acre KNP Complex, was within a mile of Giant Forest, park officials said. The second blaze, the Paradise Fire to the south, was farther away, but also burning in the direction of the historical grove.

…snip…

Last year, the Castle Fire, which burned south of the KNP Complex in Sequoia National Park, is estimated to have killed between 7,500 and 10,600 mature sequoias, including the globe’s ninth largest, the King Arthur tree. Sequoias only grow on the western slopes of the Sierra Nevada, making last year’s casualties all the more significant. Between 10% and 14% of the total sequoia population was lost.

…snip…

World’s largest sequoias wrapped in aluminum insulation as fire nears Giant Forest
sfchronicle.com

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:45:29pm

My wife was watching part two of the PBS documentary “Downing of a Flag” about removing the Confederate flag from the South Carolina capitol. In one part, a Democratic state senator was driving through Amarillo, and has a semi behind him. He pulls over to get gas, and the semi pulls in behind him. The driver, a white guy gets out, and goes up to the senator’s car:

Semi driver: Are you from South Carolina?
Senator: Yes, sir.
Driver: You gotta take down that flag. It’s embarrassing.

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Dangerman  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:46:13pm

re: #40 ckkatz

Another issue with the rally, I think, is that many of the thugs are basically cowards and bullies. If you stand and fight, and they realize that it might be closer to a fairer fight, a lot of them suddenly lose interest.

That’s charitable

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:46:49pm

re: #42 Hecuba’s daughter

Just want to mention that there are a few billionaires who aren’t terrible politicians and who care about their communities. Our governor Pritzker is a billionaire and is dedicated to helping the average citizens; he even made a serious effort at changing the state’s income tax to a graduated tax so that the wealthier can pay a higher share of taxes. Of course, he is a life-long Democrat and not a Republican which means a totally different perspective on public service. Yes — he’s made mistakes — but he’s not there to strip citizens of their rights or deliberately let a deadly virus wreak havoc in his state.

Democrats make mistakes. Republicans take calculated actions.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:47:10pm

re: #17 darthstar

Regeneron reduces the risk of death of hospitalized Covid-19 patients by about 20%. Can’t see why anyone would want to argue with that efficacy when taking the vaccine only has 95% efficacy in preventing illness overall.

So Loomer isn’t out of the running for a Herman Cain award yet.

Doesn’t it reduce risk of hospitalization or death by about 70%?

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:49:13pm

Ted Cruz, using every human crisis as a photo op.

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darthstar  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:49:36pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t it reduce risk of hospitalization or death by about 70%?

That could be. I just found efficacy for already hospitalized patients. So she’s got a 30% chance still. If she gets sick enough to shut the fuck up for a few months it’ll be a win all the same.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:50:13pm

re: #49 darthstar

That could be. I just found efficacy for already hospitalized patients. So she’s got a 30% chance still. If she gets sick enough to shut the fuck up for a few months it’ll be a win all the same.

And she may get the additional benefit of long term Covid…

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ckkatz  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:52:02pm

re: #45 Dangerman

That’s charitable

I’ve been called far worse. :)

Of course I’m now reminded of the friend that I called ‘a gentleman and a scholar’. He responded “You can’t speak about me like that.”

And the time, as a lieutenant, I had to call the Battalion Commander…

After identifying myself, I said “I’m sorry to disturb you Sir”. He immediately responded “It’s okay, I’ve been that way for many years.”

(Both true stories, by the way.)

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Teukka  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:52:11pm

re: #50 JOE 🥓

And she may get the additional benefit of long term Covid…

Also, aren’t those aborted fetal stem cell lines used in Regeneron in the same way as in the vaccines? 🤔

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JOE 🥓  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:53:10pm

re: #52 Teukka

Also, aren’t those aborted fetal stem cell lines used in Regeneron in the same way as in the vaccines? 🤔

Ah but you forget that those aborted fetal cells are OK to use on Republicans ‘cause Jay-Zuss says so!

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:54:20pm
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:58:07pm

re: #19 Dread Pirate Ron

My county is doing good on vaccinations

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…and my city is at 89.1%/84.7%

Vaccination percentage required for herd immunity for OG COVID-19 and the Alpha, Beta, and Gamma Variants was estimated to be around 82-85% if I remember correctly. Not sure about Delta & Mu but you all might be the first I’ve heard of actually making it to the ballpark. Too bad it wasn’t in June.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:58:19pm

A couple words about the vile South Carolina Murdaugh family, which a lizard mentioned had corrupt control of their community for several generations: sad to tell you all but they are Democrats. I had assumed like many white Southerners, the original generations were Democratic but that they eventually switched to the GOP. But apparently not, they even contributed to Biden’s campaign.

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2021 • 7:59:25pm

Thank you retired cynic for my 200,000th karma upding.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:00:07pm

I got to meet the new boss’s boss today, in a skip level meeting. It started off OK: He worked at Nortel as I did, and is very enthusiastic about Agile development, which we’ve been needing at higher levels. But then it went into “oh, yuck” territory. I think he’s a Randian.

The first clue was when he got to talking about hiring. Our company, L3Harris, needs a bunch of software developers - if you know someone with a few years of experience, or a grad with some good school projects, and wouldn’t mind helping turn Texas blue, let me know (the starting pay and pay raises are pretty darn good, but they do have to be US citizens capable of getting a security clearance) - and he got to talking about making sure that not only do we pay the kind of people who would be willing to work in Greenville, TX, but making sure that the current workers have pay comparable to those coming in. Sounds good. But then he started talking about how salaries are so high because countries are just able to print money as they want. Crap.

The second thing was when someone asked about covid and the vaccine. Our company has said that, at this time, they are reviewing the Biden policy. Part of the reason for that is that, especially at the Greenville site, only about half of the employees have gotten the vaccine (I think everyone in my group is finally vaccinated). Because of that, we’re on mandatory mask wearing and social distancing. His response to the question was that he thinks the company should take into account any religious exemptions, and that it’s become too political, with one side being too harsh by wanting a mandate - his previous company is requiring employees to be vaccinated by November or they will be fired for cause - while the other side is leaving it to personal choice. There was no way at that time I was going to ask about my personal choice not to be around sick people who are putting others’ lives at risk. He says we shouldn’t consider a mandate because it might cost us a lot of employees and thinks that there’s a legal requirement to consider the religious exemption.

I realize the second might contradict my asking for possible employees, but the company has been good about cleaning and enforcing mask and screening rules. And while he might have his opinions, he’s not high enough to actually block anything. And, to tell you the truth, anyone who might quit would be the same people who are making Agile development hard, so I wouldn’t exactly be sad if they left, even if it made things hard in the short term.

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:00:44pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Thank you retired cynic for my 200,000th karma upding.

Wow! That’s special! You are welcome indeed!

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:00:50pm

re: #42 Hecuba’s daughter

Pritzker was NOT my favorite because of the billionaire thing, but he has done just fine. I have no complaints to speak of, and will happily vote for him again.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:02:06pm

re: #49 darthstar

That could be. I just found efficacy for already hospitalized patients. So she’s got a 30% chance still. If she gets sick enough to shut the fuck up for a few months it’ll be a win all the same.

She said this at one point.

And now she’s compared it to the flu again in her post about the treatment.

She’s going to come out of this saying it’s like a bad flu, and sell the antibody therapy as the cure for that flu.

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:02:38pm

I’ve also had many downdings in my day. Many dings. The finest dings, believe me. Just a tremendous collection of dings that have built up over many years. Just great dings, bigly.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:02:57pm
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ckkatz  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:05:43pm

Interesting thread (41 posts) about the global supply shortages.

and one of the posts is on a subject near and dear to WrenchWench:

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:05:44pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

I’ve also had many downdings in my day. Many dings. The finest dings, believe me. Just a tremendous collection of dings that have built up over many years. Just great dings, bigly.

They were big manly downdings because they were crying over how great your statements were that they hit the wrong button.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:06:39pm

re: #55 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Vaccination percentage required for herd immunity for OG COVID-19 and the Alpha, Beta, and Gamma Variants was estimated to be around 82-85% if I remember correctly. Not sure about Delta & Mu but you all might be the first I’ve heard of actually making it to the ballpark. Too bad it wasn’t in June.

We still have about 200,000 unvaccinated plus kids under 12 so it’s still spreading, we have dropped down to 200 cases and 3 deaths a day.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:07:59pm

Remembering Marc Bolan & T. rex

T.Rex 20th Century Boy

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:08:28pm

To celebrate my 200,000 karma milestone, here’s a GIF I made from a Beaver Creek promotional YouTube. I was filmed on a big powder day strutting my stuff. 31 January 2014.

Giphy

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:10:18pm

And I’m taking this comment space, # 69.

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:10:23pm

re: #68 teleskiguy

I’m not sure a toaster from the prize room is going to suit you!

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BeachDem  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:13:14pm

re: #44 Belafon

My wife was watching part two of the PBS documentary “Downing of a Flag” about removing the Confederate flag from the South Carolina capitol. In one part, a Democratic state senator was driving through Amarillo, and has a semi behind him. He pulls over to get gas, and the semi pulls in behind him. The driver, a white guy gets out, and goes up to the senator’s car:

Semi driver: Are you from South Carolina?
Senator: Yes, sir.
Driver: You gotta take down that flag. It’s embarrassing.

I haven’t watched it yet—please tell me they don’t make Nikki out to be some kind of heroine.

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ckkatz  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:13:37pm

re: #58 Belafon

I’m probably reading too much into things.

But it sounds like his focus is on the Greenville, Texas office. And it sounds like that is because he views it as his current ‘problem child’. If you are not in that particular location, it is probably a good thing to not attract too much problematic notice. (The old “Attracting attention annoys everybody else in the foxhole” thing.)

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JOE 🥓  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:17:16pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:17:23pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:17:35pm

This is Pit Viper’s most valuable endorsement asset.

If you’re a serious skier, you know.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:19:52pm

re: #72 ckkatz

I’m probably reading too much into things.

But it sounds like his focus is on the Greenville, Texas office. And it sounds like that is because he views it as his current ‘problem child’. If you are not in that particular location, it is probably a good thing to not attract too much problematic notice. (The old “Attracting attention annoys everybody else in the foxhole” thing.)

Greenville is where I work. It’s not a bad place to work, just really far out edge of the Metroplex, 50 miles from downtown Dallas and 25 miles from Rockwall, which is roughly the eastern edge. If it were closer I think we could get a lot more employees.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:25:21pm

re: #58 Belafon

Also, if you know any junior software engineers who might need a summer internship, tell them to apply. They do summer, six month, and full year internships, and the salary is starting pay salary. And, if you do get in, you will have a job when you graduate.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:30:23pm
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:34:17pm

One of my coworkers put up the thing about how 1 in 500 Americans have died from covid, which can also be written as .2% of Americans have died, and tried to mask it as bugs per lines of code, telling us that we shouldn’t panic. It was way too obvious what he was talking about so I had to point out that that fraction is of all Americans, not those that caught the virus.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:34:37pm

I’m freakin’ tired.
7 hours at Jacksonville Naval Hospital today. Vast majority spent in the emergency facilities. 8 hours for the entire days adventure if travel time included.
First time I’ve sought medical care in 19 years (my retirement physical)
Lord, did I get scolded about that during the last 36 hours, from people I have never met and am unlikely to…lol
I’ll tell ya, it’s been a while but I’ve been in a major city emergency room working for my EMT course and cert, things were seriously calm at JNH. And I had a huge, varied collection of folks attending to me. Being treated during shift change didn’t help.

Bottom line I’m not dying. Well, no more than anyone else. I do need to stop being a dumbass and see a doctor regularly.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:35:16pm

Oh, I can’t wait for this battle here in Texas:

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:35:31pm

re: #80 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

ER’s can really wear you out. WTH is going on???

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ckkatz  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:36:11pm

re: #76 Belafon

Ooops…

Sorry about that.

So basically, he is willing to try and relax covid mandates if that will help get more hires?

And it sounds like he is not going to play the game of raising salaries for the new hires, but screwing the current employees.

I suspect that your folks have already looked at adjusting other things like telecommuting, satellite locations, productivity tweaks, etc.

In the DC area, it was generally throw more money, hire a third party group snd temp workers, or move the project outside the the area. The third party companies and temps were usually inexperienced green card holders. (I never did figure out how some of them managed to get clearances.) And temps brought in were generally not able to become productive by the time their contract ended.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:40:24pm

re: #83 ckkatz

I think I might have given the wrong impression about some of that. There’s no way we can compete with the other 3 or 4 major defense companies in the metroplex without throwing money at employees. Raytheon, a couple of years ago, came to our campus and offered a 30% salary increase just for having a Top Secret security clearance. Even he knows there’s no way to compete otherwise.

I should have implied better that I think his rant about printing money is he might be a gold-standard guy. He might just be an inflation/debt guy, but I don’t think that makes him any better.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:40:39pm

re: #81 Belafon

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:41:14pm

re: #85 Belafon

B*st*rds

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:41:37pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:43:11pm

re: #49 darthstar

That could be. I just found efficacy for already hospitalized patients. So she’s got a 30% chance still. If she gets sick enough to shut the fuck up for a few months it’ll be a win all the same.

Based on Worldometer: Florida is continuing its steady and stealthy rise in the coronavirus death derby among states. It reports numbers only twice per week. Early today before the numbers were updated, it showed total deaths per million of 2,293; now it’s at 2,366. Looks like it will soon be leapfrogging CT and SD which are both at 2,369. It’s absolutely appalling how MAGAts continue to praise the DeSadist handling of the pandemic and worship his distribution of free monoclonal antibodies as the solution to stopping the disease. In combination with vaccination, it certainly could prove the solution — but not as an alternative.

It’s surprising how badly Florida is doing given that their vaccination level is not terrible and is actually comparable to Illinois; our deaths are higher than they should be but nothing like Florida and the gap between the deaths per million for the two states increases significantly every time Florida reports.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:45:07pm
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JOE 🥓  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:51:35pm

This episode showed up in my You Tube queue. I saw the show when it was first shown and it scared me because it was based on actual events.

Note a pre-Avengers Patrick Macnee!

▶ “One Step Beyond”: Night of April 14th.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:56:48pm

re: #24 Dread Pirate Ron

How convenient.

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plansbandc  Sep 16, 2021 • 8:57:35pm

re: #89 Belafon

I live in a mostly blue city, but If we put that sign up in our yard, I would be afraid we’d get shot. Or firebombed. Or both.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 16, 2021 • 9:00:44pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

I’ve also had many downdings in my day. Many dings. The finest dings, believe me. Just a tremendous collection of dings that have built up over many years. Just great dings, bigly.

“Moar dings!” - Bob Cesca as Bionic Dan Bidondi

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2021 • 9:02:06pm

re: #93 A Three Hour Tour

“Moar dings!” - Bob Cesca as Bionic Dan Bidondi

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mmmirele  Sep 16, 2021 • 9:11:17pm

re: #10 Punish Domestic Terrorists

This is pretty freaky.

Is This ‘Real Housewives’ Star Really Running a Cult? Ex-Church Members Say Yes (The Daily Beast)

Well, my first thought was Of Course It’s Salt Lake City. When I lived there I used to say that Utah had more kooks per inhabited (very important, most of Utah is just plain empty) square mile. My second thought was, Black church? WTF???? Then I looked up the church on Google Maps, and it’s (a) an old Mormon wardhouse and (b) has an actual locked and shut gate across its driveway, which is just WEIRD for a church.

Oh, Utah, never change!

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mmmirele  Sep 16, 2021 • 9:32:25pm

re: #79 Belafon

One of my coworkers put up the thing about how 1 in 500 Americans have died from covid, which can also be written as .2% of Americans have died, and tried to mask it as bugs per lines of code, telling us that we shouldn’t panic. It was way too obvious what he was talking about so I had to point out that that fraction is of all Americans, not those that caught the virus.

Based on my extensive experience catherding people through truly serious technical issues, I can tell you that why yes, that one freaking variable which mistakenly got copied over into the code repository and then pushed out with the next upgrade, which may be only a few numbers long, could completely bring down a heavily used application.

So maybe only .2 percent of Americans have died. You’d think quite differently if it was your relative or best friends. Jeez!

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plansbandc  Sep 16, 2021 • 9:46:28pm

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2021 • 9:49:50pm

re: #97 plansbandc

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2021 • 10:25:12pm

re: #97 plansbandc

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2021 • 10:44:32pm

re: #88 Hecuba’s daughter

……
It’s surprising how badly Florida is doing given that their vaccination level is not terrible and is actually comparable to Illinois; our deaths are higher than they should be but nothing like Florida and the gap between the deaths per million for the two states increases significantly every time Florida reports.

Texas is also creeping up but it doesn’t seem to be doing quite as terribly as Florida, even though it is less vaccinated. Both states are mandate averse — so what’s with Florida? Or maybe the question should be why are Texas statistics not quite as terrible as Florida?

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 16, 2021 • 10:48:24pm

re: #26 Dangerman

Flying ain’t in the constitution
Qed

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Actually, the “constitutional right of free movement” was an argument used against requiring drivers to be licensed back when bad drivers were getting common enough to endanger the public. Since licenses are, in fact, required, we can conclude that it didn’t work.

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A Cranky One  Sep 16, 2021 • 10:58:29pm

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 16, 2021 • 11:09:50pm

re: #97 plansbandc

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2021 • 11:21:43pm

Speaking of airlines, my “reasonable conservative” friend and I were discussing the news about Delta seeing so many of its employees getting with the program when faced with a $200/paycheck penalty for refusal to get vaccinated. And it was his belief that if the employees sued Delta and argued that they can’t penalize employees for expected costs due to COVID treatments if they’re not likewise doing the same to employees who might pick up “an STD” (heavily implied to be HIV) or female employees who might get pregnant. I started to try to explain to him the simple reality that unlike COVID, STDs and pregnancy are not something that can be transmitted through the air to other employees or passengers, but he only let me get so far before he decided he wanted to change the subject.

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darthstar  Sep 16, 2021 • 11:44:59pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

If you could only get Covid through fucking, getting the vaccine would be a badge of honor for these cis incels.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2021 • 11:58:18pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

I had a “reasonable conservative” friend whose recourses when cornered were
a) change the subject
b) “refer” me to some other source
or
c) go ad hominem.

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sagehen  Sep 17, 2021 • 12:06:11am

re: #64 ckkatz

Interesting thread (41 posts) about the global supply shortages.

from that thread:

oh, look, it’s the warehouse from the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2021 • 12:12:23am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I had a “reasonable conservative” friend whose recourses when cornered were
a) change the subject
b) “refer” me to some other source
or
c) go ad hominem.

I get the variation a1 quite often: Interrupt me in the middle of my making my point to change the subject. Often the interruptions are either “Did you hear about…?” or “Did you get that email I sent you about…?”

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A Cranky One  Sep 17, 2021 • 12:23:50am

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 17, 2021 • 12:37:20am

Mmmm, skunk. It sprayed the area just before I had to let the dog out. Dog has finally learned, after 9 years, don’t chase the skunks. He did his business and turned around and came back in. He’s been sprayed at least twice. After 25 years and 3 dogs I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve dealt with stinky dogs, three times with this one I think.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 17, 2021 • 1:31:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 1:32:50am

re: #111 Dread Pirate Ron

Basic lesson: monopolies are not good for the economy or for society.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 17, 2021 • 1:48:18am
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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2021 • 1:49:10am

And yet the entire GQP case against social media monopolies…is that they occasionally enforce their TOS by timing out/banning major wingnut celebrities.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 2:06:16am

re: #114 Targetpractice

And yet the entire GQP case against social media monopolies…is that they occasionally enforce their TOS by timing out/banning major wingnut celebrities.

I think that the monopoly status enjoyed by FB, Twitter, etc., is a matter to be addressed, but for now it is an issue of a private company making business decisions.

And as for First Amendment issues, remember that it reads with “CONGRESS shall make no law…abridging freedom of speech…”

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2021 • 2:24:10am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that the monopoly status enjoyed by FB, Twitter, etc., is a matter to be addressed, but for now it is an issue of a private company making business decisions.

And as for First Amendment issues, remember that it reads with “CONGRESS shall make no law…abridging freedom of speech…”

It’s a matter that needs to be addressed, but the problem is that while both sides may agree on that, the one making the most noise (GQP) are doing so for entirely self-serving reasons and they have no genuine interest in doing anything other than bullying those companies into getting their way.

If tomorrow Jack or Mark announced that their company’s bans on Trump were to be lifted and they’d start instituting “free speech” rules that protected wingnuts from bans, 90% of the bitching about those companies would disappear overnight.

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Teukka  Sep 17, 2021 • 3:32:20am
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Teukka  Sep 17, 2021 • 3:46:56am

Stone was served while on the air…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 3:57:53am

re: #116 Targetpractice

If tomorrow Jack or Mark announced that their company’s bans on Trump were to be lifted and they’d start instituting “free speech” rules that protected wingnuts from bans, 90% of the bitching about those companies would disappear overnight.

Not until they start banning Wokespeak

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 4:06:26am

re: #58 Belafon

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 4:22:35am

re: #100 Hecuba’s daughter

Texas is also creeping up but it doesn’t seem to be doing quite as terribly as Florida, even though it is less vaccinated. Both states are mandate averse — so what’s with Florida? Or maybe the question should be why are Texas statistics not quite as terrible as Florida?

You don’t hear talk of it, but raw population density probably plays a big role. The early waves that wiped the NE and NW took hold in port cities. Simple distance from nose-to-(unvaccinated) nose could be at play.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 4:23:24am

re: #118 Teukka

He shrugs it off like it was just another Jehovah’s Witness: this is why Trump has to be re-elected, so he can be granted a Lifetime Blanket Pardon.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 17, 2021 • 4:26:41am

Ever since the Fagradalsfjall volcano came back to life on the 12th it has been pumping lava into Geldingadalir valley, which is on the west side of the volcano.

On the 15th the lava started to flow into Natthagi valley, much lower in elevation.

Here’s a webcam image at daybreak today, from a camera on the hill on the south end of Natthagi, looking north up Geldingadalir valley towards the volcano.

It’s hot lava all the way back to the volcano:

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 4:37:00am

re: #123 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Volcano from Central Casting.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2021 • 4:48:55am

re: #89 Belafon

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 4:58:49am

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

I saw that Facebook said the Clooney photo was false information and blocked it.

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jeffreyw  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:01:12am

Gingerdammit

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:03:54am

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

and again, the Confederate Battle Flag never flew above any government building, for that they used the national flag, the Stars and Bars until the final months of the war, when they started to switch to the Stainless banner and later to the Bloodstained Banner.

Also many Confederate battle flags were in fact pink.

In a recent conversation I had with a friend, we discussed the painting The First Battle Flags by Don Troiani, which depicts the events of November 28, 1861, at Centreville, Virginia. ..While many flags were used by the so-called Confederate States of America on and off the battlefield, one design would become immortal: a white-bordered St. Andrew’s Cross of blue, decorated with white stars on a field of red… and also pink. And though some of those bullet-torn, bloodstained battle flags survive to this day, it is hard for many people to grapple with the fact Confederate soldiers proved their manhood under a pink flag.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:10:54am

Woohoo

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:13:30am

re: #104 Targetpractice

Speaking of airlines, my “reasonable conservative” friend and I were discussing the news about Delta seeing so many of its employees getting with the program when faced with a $200/paycheck penalty for refusal to get vaccinated. And it was his belief that if the employees sued Delta and argued that they can’t penalize employees for expected costs due to COVID treatments if they’re not likewise doing the same to employees who might pick up “an STD” (heavily implied to be HIV) or female employees who might get pregnant. I started to try to explain to him the simple reality that unlike COVID, STDs and pregnancy are not something that can be transmitted through the air to other employees or passengers, but he only let me get so far before he decided he wanted to change the subject.

My company charges an extra $200/month for smokers, and they don’t even allow people to smoke on site. It has to do with the long term cost of catching the virus.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:14:11am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and again, the Confederate Battle Flag never flew above any government building, for that they used the national flag, the Stars and Bars until the final months of the war, when they started to switch to the Stainless banner and later to the Bloodstained Banner.

Also many Confederate battle flags were in fact pink.

In a recent conversation I had with a friend, we discussed the painting The First Battle Flags by Don Troiani, which depicts the events of November 28, 1861, at Centreville, Virginia. ..While many flags were used by the so-called Confederate States of America on and off the battlefield, one design would become immortal: a white-bordered St. Andrew’s Cross of blue, decorated with white stars on a field of red… and also pink. And though some of those bullet-torn, bloodstained battle flags survive to this day, it is hard for many people to grapple with the fact Confederate soldiers proved their manhood under a pink flag.

Wasn’t all blue and gray. (Nice muzzle discipline, too.)

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lawhawk  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:15:45am

re: #3 No Malarkey!

This fucking lunatic is taking HCQ and everything under the sun, including monoclonal antibody treatment, but refused to take the vaccine that would prevent her having to spend a single dollar on any junk woo treatment, or a monoclonal antibody treatment that is an infusion that has significant side effects as well.

Those side effects are almost as lengthy as the side effects for the vaccine that prevents the disease in the first place.

I hope to never have to hear of this lunatic ever again. But then again, I’m used to disappointment.

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lawhawk  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:19:42am

re: #61 Punish Domestic Terrorists

She said this at one point.

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And now she’s compared it to the flu again in her post about the treatment.

She’s going to come out of this saying it’s like a bad flu, and sell the antibody therapy as the cure for that flu.

Yeah, monoclonal antibody infusion that costs thousands of dollars (and the doses were picked up by the US Govt, but the infusion cost isn’t), isn’t a cure. It’s a test treatment that might reduce severity of the disease from something that sends you to your grave to something you might recover from with long-covid.

All because she refuses to take a vaccination that is safe and effective.

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lawhawk  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:22:29am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:28:48am

CV Day 8—

Wife and I are still doing good temps and O2. Mild coughs and fatigue are the residual symptoms. The infusion I got wasn’t Remdesivir. It was Regen-COV, a cocktail considered “investigational”. I suspect they all are.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:40:26am

re: #116 Targetpractice

It’s a matter that needs to be addressed, but the problem is that while both sides may agree on that, the one making the most noise (GQP) are doing so for entirely self-serving reasons and they have no genuine interest in doing anything other than bullying those companies into getting their way.

If tomorrow Jack or Mark announced that their company’s bans on Trump were to be lifted and they’d start instituting “free speech” rules that protected wingnuts from bans, 90% of the bitching about those companies would disappear overnight.

Let’s not forget the biggest sources of disinformation consist of RW media — Murdoch operations, Newsmax, OANN, Breitbart etc — none of which are “social” media. The people I know on social media who spread/amplify these lies learn them from these other organizations. If there were no social media, they would use their email lists to tell others these stories.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:51:46am

Oh well

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:53:57am

re: #137 Patricia Kayden

Alabama Pickers, couple known for reselling and vaccine opposition, both dead of COVID

not before their son stared a GoFundMe site, which, as we all know, is the final phase of Covid denial…

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:58:23am

coronavirus.jhu.edu reporting 3,393 deaths in the past day in the U.S., the highest single day death toll in months.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 5:59:46am

re: #139 No Malarkey!

coronavirus.jhu.edu reporting 3,393 deaths in the past day in the U.S., the highest single day death toll in months.

I thought trends were going down in TX and FL, are they picking up elsewhere?

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:00:05am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:00:06am

re: #137 Patricia Kayden

Oh well

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TBF They may be right — this may all be behind us by 2022 or 2023. Of course, they won’t be here to enjoy that and tell us how wrong we all were to panic over this disease. It’s clearly not (yet?) as lethal as 1918, which targeted young people and killed 50 million worldwide. Only 4.6 million dead so far, out of a world population over 4 times the size.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:02:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:02:54am

re: #141 Belafon

President Biden: “Where is it written that all the tax breaks in the American tax code go to corporations and the very top? I think it’s enough, I’m tired of it. For me, it’s pretty simple. It’s about time working people got the tax breaks in this country.”

Chapter One, Verse One in the Bible of Trickle-Down Economics

“Blessed are the Job-Creators for they shall be exempted from rendering unto Caesar. They shall be given loopholes large enough for a fully-laden camel to pass through with ease.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:02:57am

re: #83 ckkatz

Ooops…

Sorry about that.

So basically, he is willing to try and relax covid mandates if that will help get more hires?

And it sounds like he is not going to play the game of raising salaries for the new hires, but screwing the current employees.

I suspect that your folks have already looked at adjusting other things like telecommuting, satellite locations, productivity tweaks, etc.

In the DC area, it was generally throw more money, hire a third party group snd temp workers, or move the project outside the the area. The third party companies and temps were usually inexperienced green card holders. (I never did figure out how some of them managed to get clearances.) And temps brought in were generally not able to become productive by the time their contract ended.

When I worked as an IT contractor in DC in the late ’80s at the USDA, FSLIC, and FDIC a lot of the IT contractor companies were essentially working by bringing over programmers and analysts on green cards* in shifts. And this is before the internet and networks got good enough for proper outsourcing or remote work like it was by the early 2000s.

They could compete very effectively with the domestic companies (like the one I worked for) since on a salary basis they were underpaying their employees compared to the local market, but said salary was very good compared to working in India. And they competed very well for contracts since most of their employees had bachelor, if not masters, degrees from universities in India in computer science and their bids looked very very good on paper.

Downside of using them, as the government found out, was that if there was any visa issues they might have an important programmer or analyst for a target deported suddenly (or not allowed back in after going to India for something.) And the English skills of some of these workers was lacking as I heard more than one supervisor bemoan.

The company I worked for decided to handle this competition by *lying* about their own employees’ qualifications. Without telling us they had done so until they got tripped up.** So we had a meeting and they showed us our doctored resumes for 15 minutes so that we could learn what they had lied about and parrot that information if asked. I, for one, had been given a masters degree in Computer Science and three more years work experience than I really had. And within a week of them doing it I was job searching in the Pittsburgh area since I was not going to be a willing participant in such a fraud.

** - One of the analysts I worked with had gone to Marshall University. It turns out that one of the supervisors where we were working had also gone to Marshall. And the doctored resume for this guy had pushed back the listed years he had been at Marshall to overlap the supervisor’s attendance there. And the Computer Science department at Marshall was not so large that you wouldn’t generally know or recognize the people who’d been there when you were. (I saw that in Pittsburgh when there was a new contractor and he and I were both “I know you from somewhere.” It turned out we were both at Pitt at the same time in the same major.)

* - Or possibly playing games with tourist visas.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:04:57am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought trends were going down in TX and FL, are they picking up elsewhere?

Yes. Tennessee, Kentucky and Idaho in particular are getting hammered. Also deaths are a lagging indicator; they keep rising even as cases fall as people who have been sick awhile start to die.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:06:07am

re: #146 No Malarkey!

Yes. Tennessee, Kentucky and Idaho in particular are getting hammered. Also deaths are a lagging indicator; they keep rising even as cases fall as people who have been sick awhile start to die.

if those deaths are even reported…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:06:12am

re: #143 Belafon

Sounds like one of those setups where you hit the ball at the screen. I know someone who has that in his garage.
He was golfing on the job even when not out at his properties. Still better than actually working in that failed President’s case.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:06:23am

re: #146 No Malarkey!

Yes. Tennessee, Kentucky and Idaho in particular are getting hammered. Also deaths are a lagging indicator; they keep rising even as cases fall as people who have been sick awhile start to die.

Floriduh is averaging 510 deaths a day right now.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:06:55am

re: #100 Hecuba’s daughter

Texas is also creeping up but it doesn’t seem to be doing quite as terribly as Florida, even though it is less vaccinated. Both states are mandate averse — so what’s with Florida? Or maybe the question should be why are Texas statistics not quite as terrible as Florida?

Are the nuts in Texas more spread out than in Florida?

A lower population density should lead to a slower spread. Or a least little fits and jumps as it jumps from a small concentration/exchange point to another. Little burst of exponential growth as compared to how it moves through a high population density area of expanding exposure.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:08:31am

re: #148 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Sounds like one of those setups where you hit the ball at the screen. I know someone who has that in his garage.

Lee Carvallo’s Putting Challenge

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:11:15am

re: #145 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

When I worked as an IT contractor in DC in the late ’80s at the USDA, FSLIC, and FDIC a lot of the IT contractor companies were essentially working by bringing over programmers and analysts on green cards* in shifts. And this is before the internet and networks got good enough for proper outsourcing or remote work like it was by the early 2000s.

They could compete very effectively with the domestic companies (like the one I worked for) since on a salary basis they were underpaying their employees compared to the local market, but said salary was very good compared to working in India. And they competed very well for contracts since most of their employees had bachelor, if not masters, degrees from universities in India in computer science and their bids looked very very good on paper.

………

One of my colleagues for over 30 years was initially very opposed to green cards. But eventually he changed his mind — he preferred someone coming here on an H-1B visa since that person usually used that as an opportunity to stay here permanently and become a citizen. My colleague was fine with that — it was much better than outsourcing to people who stayed overseas and gradually took over the department because they were so much cheaper. He had no objection to immigrants joining our nation, regardless of color or ethnic background.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:12:41am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and again, the Confederate Battle Flag never flew above any government building, for that they used the national flag, the Stars and Bars until the final months of the war, when they started to switch to the Stainless banner and later to the Bloodstained Banner.

Also many Confederate battle flags were in fact pink.

In a recent conversation I had with a friend, we discussed the painting The First Battle Flags by Don Troiani, which depicts the events of November 28, 1861, at Centreville, Virginia. ..While many flags were used by the so-called Confederate States of America on and off the battlefield, one design would become immortal: a white-bordered St. Andrew’s Cross of blue, decorated with white stars on a field of red… and also pink. And though some of those bullet-torn, bloodstained battle flags survive to this day, it is hard for many people to grapple with the fact Confederate soldiers proved their manhood under a pink flag.

That’s because that up through the 1950s at least pink was essentially “red junior” and had not picked up any real gender specific limitation yet, much less become heavily associated with homosexuality among conservatives.

IIRC, Homer Hickam in _Rocket Boys_ talks about wearing a pink shirt to a high school dance.

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Dangerman  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:14:27am
A hospital system in Arkansas is making it a bit more difficult for staff to receive a religious exemption from its COVID-19 vaccine mandate. The hospital is now requiring staff to also swear off extremely common medicines, such as Tylenol, Tums, and even Preparation H, to get the exemption.

The move was prompted when Conway Regional Health System noted an unusual uptick in vaccine exemption requests that cited the use of fetal cell lines in the development and testing of the vaccines.

“Thus,” Troup went on, “we provided a religious attestation form for those individuals requesting a religious exemption,” he said. The form includes a list of 30 commonly used medicines that “fall into the same category as the COVID-19 vaccine in their use of fetal cell lines,” Conway Regional said.

The list includes Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, aspirin, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, ibuprofen, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, albuterol, Preparation H, MMR vaccine, Claritin, Zoloft, Prilosec OTC, and azithromycin.

That’s how you do it

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:15:28am

re: #146 No Malarkey!

Yes. Tennessee, Kentucky and Idaho in particular are getting hammered. Also deaths are a lagging indicator; they keep rising even as cases fall as people who have been sick awhile start to die.

Case numbers are not as accurate as deaths — no guarantee that they will even be reported. People who get ill but don’t need hospitalization often are/were not officially tested, especially if they are retired or not working for a company that requires such tests.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:15:42am

re: #153 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

IIRC, Homer Hickam in _Rocket Boys_ talks about wearing a pink shirt to a high school dance.

Oh the time Mom dressed me in a pink shirt and sent me off to 3rd grade where the teacher made me stand up and she made fun of me…I went home took the shirt off and threw it in the trash…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:15:46am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I like VR mini golf, and recommended VR golf to the guy with the golf sim before I knew he had it when I saw pics of him playing in the cold on FB. What he has is better for him than VR. When the ball hits the screen, it’s been tracked, and a virtual version of it continues in the video. It’s pretty cool for people who are into golf.

This is a really nice one. Just under 8 grand. That is not what the guy I know has.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:16:00am

re: #153 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

That’s because that up through the 1950s at least pink was essentially “red junior” and had not picked up any real gender specific limitation yet, much less become heavily associated with homosexuality among conservatives.

IIRC, Homer Hickam in _Rocket Boys_ talks about wearing a pink shirt to a high school dance.

Needless to say, fashion and symbols change over time, like the Good Old Boys who spent all week complaining about bearded long-hairs and then went to church on Sunday to kneel before an image of a bearded, long-haired Savior or prophet…

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:18:17am

re: #154 Dangerman

That’s how you do it

Take your religious exemption and cram it up your ass.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:18:26am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Needles to say, fashion and symbols change over time, like the Good Old Boys who spent all week complaining about bearded long-hairs and then went to church on Sunday to kneel before an image of a bearded, long-haired Savior or prophet…

Or Duck Dynasty with their faux-backwoods hillbilly get ups.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:19:37am

re: #160 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Or Duck Dynasty with their faux-backwoods hillbilly get ups.

´Just goes to show that look is timeless: Biblical Patriarch, Confederate Colonel or member of ZZ Top…

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JOE 🥓  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:20:43am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Needles to say, fashion and symbols change over time, like the Good Old Boys who spent all week complaining about bearded long-hairs and then went to church on Sunday to kneel before an image of a bearded, long-haired Savior or prophet…

Memories of the 60s when there was a LOT of stupidity in the air when it came to hair. Parents would complain about teachers with long hair before the School “Bored” and oh I had to keep my hair severely trimmed because of it’s tendency to turn into an Afro which only made the teachers and their pets attack me more calling me “N-Word-Head”. Of course these same Xtians would go to church on Sunday and kneel before statues of a guy with long hair and a beard and that was OK.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:26:04am

The Scarlet Letter is alive and well.

Sanchez, who is 33, expected more than financial assistance from the state — in part because she was distantly aware of the history of welfare reform, a federal law that passed 25 years ago this summer. Given that legislation’s emphasis on putting welfare recipients to work, she said, she thought that welfare officials would push her to get a new job: “In fact, I really hoped they’d help me with that.”

Instead, the New Mexico Human Services Department caseworker who called the next day fixated on an unexpected question: Who was baby Avery’s biological father?

You can’t get public assistance if you don’t name your child’s father, the caseworker said.

“She was really adamant about it,” Sanchez said. “It was all she wanted to talk about: the dad.”

Now imagine if that child was the result of a rape…

propublica.org

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lawhawk  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:27:00am

re: #137 Patricia Kayden

They had it coming… they had it coming… they have only themselves to blame.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:27:58am

I just saw a trending headline that read “Prince Philip’s Will to be Sealed for 90 years” and my first thought was “I thought once you were buried you pretty much remained sealed forever.” Then I quickly understood that ‘will’ has a different meaning here. More coffee, stat.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:28:22am

re: #163 JOE 🥓

The Scarlet Letter is alive and well.

Sanchez, who is 33, expected more than financial assistance from the state — in part because she was distantly aware of the history of welfare reform, a federal law that passed 25 years ago this summer. Given that legislation’s emphasis on putting welfare recipients to work, she said, she thought that welfare officials would push her to get a new job: “In fact, I really hoped they’d help me with that.”

Instead, the New Mexico Human Services Department caseworker who called the next day fixated on an unexpected question: Who was baby Avery’s biological father?

You can’t get public assistance if you don’t name your child’s father, the caseworker said.

“She was really adamant about it,” Sanchez said. “It was all she wanted to talk about: the dad.”

Now imagine if that child was the result of a rape…

I have some knowledge of this in general, because I litigated child support cases. They want to sue the dad to recover the assistance they are providing for the child.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:30:41am

Thread, eleven tweets, on why Boris Johnson is a highly ranked moron.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:31:45am

re: #25 jaunte

Texas, though.

“If I owned Texas and I owned Hell, I’d live in Hell and rent out Texas.” — Some Civil War general whose name I don’t feel like Googling.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:32:45am

re: #156 JOE 🥓

Oh the time Mom dressed me in a pink shirt and sent me off to 3rd grade where the teacher made me stand up and she made fun of me…I went home took the shirt off and threw it in the trash…

Sounds like you went to M. De Sade Middle School.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:34:31am

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Sounds like you went to M. De Sade middle School.

And of course the little strap on the back of the collar of a button-down shirt? Mocked for having a “fruit loop.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:35:13am

re: #167 Dopamine Fish

Thread, eleven tweets, on why Boris Johnson is a highly ranked moron.

Hello Boris. Weights and Measures Inspector here. Sorry to dispel your latest bit of kite flying.

1. The UK transferring to metric measures had bugger all to do with our EU membership.

The UK was never forbidden to use Imperial weights and measures, they just had to also display values in metric equally or more prominently.

But this is like Biden’s vaccine mandate: He is not forcing anyone to get the vaccine, there is the option of weekly testing.

But obviously, the administration does not want to mention that too loudly because they want to encourage vaccination, and the right wing is not mentioning it because they are having too much fun busting a blood vessel shouting “Tyranny and Oppression!”

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JOE 🥓  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:35:31am

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Sounds like you went to M. De Sade middle School.

Nope just the typical school in Western PA where all they cared about was a winning football or basketball team...oh and they just had a dislike of Jews…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:36:33am

re: #172 JOE 🥓

Nope just the typical school in Western PA where all they cared about was a winning football or basketball team...oh and they just had a dislike of Jews…

not enough black people around for them to hate?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:36:41am

re: #168 The Pie Overlord!

“If I owned Texas and I owned Hell, I’d live in Hell and rent out Texas.” — Some Civil War general whose name I don’t feel like Googling.

Sheridan in 1866. He was there with a large number of men on the Texas border with Mexico to let France know that the occupation with Maximilian as puppet emperor was not approved of. And that now that the Civil War was over the USA was much more willing to actively do something about it.

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Dangerman  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:37:26am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Needles to say, fashion and symbols change over time, like the Good Old Boys who spent all week complaining about bearded long-hairs and then went to church on Sunday to kneel before an image of a bearded, long-haired Savior or prophet…

;-)

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:37:52am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hello Boris. Weights and Measures Inspector here. Sorry to dispel your latest bit of kite flying.

1. The UK transferring to metric measures had bugger all to do with our EU membership.

The UK was never forbidden to use Imperial weights and measures, they just had to also display values in metric equally or more prominently.

But this is like Biden’s vaccine mandate: He is not forcing anyone to get the vaccine, there is the option of weekly testing.

But obviously, the administration does not want to mention that too loudly because they want to encourage vaccination, and the right wing is not mentioning it because they are having too much fun busting a blood vessel shouting “Tyranny and Oppression!”

Aren’t certain jobs requiring vaccinations, and not weekly tests: e.g. federal employees, health care workers?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:39:23am

re: #175 Dangerman

;-)

Needless and pinss

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:40:03am

re: #172 JOE 🥓

Nope just the typical school in Western PA where all they cared about was a winning football or basketball team...oh and they just had a dislike of Jews…

I went to 7-8 schools in the PGH area (we moved a lot). Most were Catholic. Your school was pathological.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:40:52am

re: #176 Hecuba’s daughter

Aren’t certain jobs requiring vaccinations, and not weekly tests: e.g. federal employees, health care workers?

you are right about that, the testing option applies only to companies with 100 employees or more.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:41:14am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not enough black people around for them to hate?

Just a reminder that our congressman then Frank Clark was 1 of 2 Northern Democrats who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights and 1965 Voting Rights Act.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:41:51am

re: #178 Decatur Deb

I went to 7-8 schools in the PGH area (we moved a lot). Most were Catholic. Your school was pathological.

But not uncommon. There’s a reason that I have absolutely nothing to do with anyone from my high school, and have spoke to maybe 3 of them in the nearly 20 years since I left. And I’m not even Jewish.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:42:27am

re: #170 Barefoot Grin

And of course the little strap on the back of the collar of a button-down shirt? Mocked for having a “fruit loop.”

I got picked on terribly for not being into team sports, muscle cars or airheaded cheerleaders with peroxided hair and big bazongas, you know, all the things that a “normal” Midwestern lad is supposed to be interested in.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:44:51am

re: #181 Dopamine Fish

But not uncommon. There’s a reason that I have absolutely nothing to do with anyone from my high school, and have spoke to maybe 3 of them in the nearly 20 years since I left. And I’m not even Jewish.

There is exactly one person my high school whom I have remained in regular contact and maybe a couple more I would enjoy seeing or hearing from again.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:46:42am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is exactly one person my high school whom I have remained in regular contact and maybe a couple more I would enjoy seeing or hearing from again.

One of my former friends moved here to Minneapolis; I met him and his wife once, soon after he moved, and have seen him post on LinkedIn (since I left Facebook last year), but we don’t converse regularly. I get occasional phone calls from two others, though I haven’t heard from either of them since late last year. That’s pretty much it. And I really couldn’t care less.

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Dangerman  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:46:54am
A new Annenberg survey finds that 49% of Americans said it was accurate to say that arresting those who entered the U.S. Capitol on January 6 to disrupt the certification of the presidential election violated the Constitution because they were exercising their constitutional right to petition the government for redress of grievances.

More post hoc excuse shopping for what we all know really happened

“petitioning” doing a lot of the lifting here

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:47:49am

re: #185 Dangerman

More post hoc excuse shopping for what we all know really happened

“petitioning” doing a lot of the lifting here

Fine, we’ll redress your grievances. There was no fraud, you lost, now GTFO. Oh, wait, that doesn’t satisfy you? Burden’s on you to prove there’s even a grievance to redress.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:48:45am

re: #181 Dopamine Fish

But not uncommon. There’s a reason that I have absolutely nothing to do with anyone from my high school, and have spoke to maybe 3 of them in the nearly 20 years since I left. And I’m not even Jewish.

The school where I landed longest was ultra-Catholic, nuns 24/7. We always had a couple Jewish and AA kids whose parents were forced to lodge them there. My BFF/6th grade might have been Jewish, but except for his name I wouldn’t know that.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:49:47am

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I got picked on terribly for not being into team sports, muscle cars or airheaded cheerleaders with peroxided hair and big bazongas, you know, all the things that a “normal” Midwestern lad is supposed to be interested in.

Middle school was like that for me with a dollop of scorn because I was chubby. I thrived in high school, which had about 1200 students, because the different groups more or less left each other alone and you could actually be part of different groups. Though, come to think of it, the only football player in our madrigal group was a huge guy who went on to play for the Arizona Cardinals (no one was going to pick on Todd).

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:50:28am

Republicans are trying to force the Democrats to raise the debt limit without GOP votes so that they can pretend to be “fiscally responsible.” I assume Congress will figure this out without triggering a depression, but it is 2021, so we’ll see.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:51:30am

re: #188 Barefoot Grin

I was autistic and devoutly Protestant in a school full of apathetic Catholics who, common for the times, looked down on “nerds”. Funny, then, that the nerds ended up delivering the goods at state, and the jocks still haven’t won a banner, even 20 years later.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:57:42am

re: #189 No Malarkey!

Republicans are trying to force the Democrats to raise the debt limit without GOP votes so that they can pretend to be “fiscally responsible.” I assume Congress will figure this out without triggering a depression, but it is 2021, so we’ll see.

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Most Democrats think the debt ceiling thing shoukd go away. I bet I can name at least two Senate Democrats that don’t.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:57:55am

re: #190 Dopamine Fish

I was autistic and devoutly Protestant in a school full of apathetic Catholics who, common for the times, looked down on “nerds”. Funny, then, that the nerds ended up delivering the goods at state, and the jocks still haven’t won a banner, even 20 years later.

I look back and hope that I didn’t bully any “nerds.” I don’t think so. I wasn’t always an angel and I remember that no one I knew cared to know anything about autism in the ’70s and early ’80s. I know at least one guy who wore jeans that were too short and the same flannel shirt everyday who got razzed. He ended up in Hollywood making a very, very good living in sound production (he’s a FB friend now).

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:59:40am

I had forgotten about this:

It makes the argument that people will just leave the company harder if every company has to do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 6:59:57am

I was one of about a dozen white kids in my grade school, and although I was nerdy and bookish and there were some kids who picked on me, there were others who stood up for me, perhaps because they were taught that it was cool to have a smart friend.

That was not the case when we moved to an all-white working-class neighborhood.

I recall looking up a guy I used to hang with in HS days, not much of a close friend. He went off to join the Army after senior year.

One look at all the anti-Obama, anti-Hillary, Go USA!!! posts on his FB site and I decided not to resume contact.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:02:29am

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:02:39am

re: #127 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Now, now, he just wants to add carbohydrates to his diet!

Also, western good morning!

Recall election relic
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Belafon  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:05:38am
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Belafon  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:07:25am
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Belafon  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:07:32am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:08:30am

My HS and freshman college year were spent in a Franciscan seminary. I often think I missed a lot, then the Lizards start talking their school reminiscences…

I’m fairly sure there was a short fist fight during the 5 years I spent in Castalia.
amazon.com

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lawhawk  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:12:17am

re: #199 Belafon

GOP death panels.

The GOP has signed off on hospitals rationing care because they’ve caused the collapse of the health care delivery system. When you’re rationing care, it’s because your system is in collapse - it’s already too late.

The GOP has sided with covid, with the intent of tying the damage to Biden, while trying to escape the responsibility of causing the situation in the first place.

The GOP are sociopaths, and are counting on media and know nothing misinformed masses to magic balance fairy all of it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:13:58am

re: #197 Belafon

So far, statewide Illinois hospitalization and ICU usage due to Covid is very manageable (though there are smaller communities with problems) which is fortunate — since Illinois hospitalization and ICU Non-Covid usage is worse than many other states.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:15:39am

re: #199 Belafon

Triage matrices and “tie-breakers” are needlessly cumbersome. In a proper Libertarian system, bed/ICU allocation is managed by simple auction.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:19:01am

re: #198 Belafon

All the vaccines are great, but I can’t deny the joy I felt upon learning that the one I got will henceforth be known in Canada as “Spikevax”

When I put a spike into my veins…

The Velvet Underground-Heroin

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:20:14am

re: #203 Decatur Deb

Triage matrices and “tie-breakers” are needlessly cumbersome. In a proper Libertarian system, bed/ICU allocation is managed by simple auction.

I thought it went to the highest bidder, as EVERYTHING IS A COMMODITY

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:22:19am

Stupid Fucking Texas. This is why we can’t have nice things.

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darthstar  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:27:57am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not before their son stared a GoFundMe site, which, as we all know, is the final phase of Covid denial…

Vaccine refusal—>claims of natural immunity—>worst I’ve felt in years—>send tots and pears—>GoFundMe

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:28:19am

re: #199 Belafon

Idaho related

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:29:47am

How it started/How it’s going.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:32:46am

re: #198 Belafon

Florida has positivity rate of 14.57% and Vermont of 1.53%, which certainly suggests that the number of cases in Florida is a vast undercount. It’s certainly possible, though, that many of those uncounted Florida cases are among the vaccinated.

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darthstar  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:33:38am

re: #206 Dopamine Fish

Stupid Fucking Texas. This is why we can’t have nice things.

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Flying home today - people by and large have been adapting to the vaccine proof at the door (travel safe Hawaii vaccine cert on phone or physical vax card PLUS photo ID), though we were having cocktails at the Sheraton the other night and two men from the pool came in and gave the bartender shit about having to show proof. “I’m a guest in the hotel!” one shouted. The other kept browbeating the bartender about not going out and asking his girfriend’s father to come in and show his vax card until he finally relented.

I applauded the bartender for his patience with the two men when we left and gave him a $40 tip on a $60 drink order.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:33:46am

re: #209 No Malarkey!

How it started/How it’s going.

Ironically, it would probably have been better for Laura if she had gotten COVID early, when she made that first statement. She fucked around, and now the Delta variant is going to make sure she finds out.

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Teukka  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:33:54am

re: #209 No Malarkey!

How it started/How it’s going.

Just a question, what has she been saying with “aborted baby parts” in the vaccines?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:35:21am

re: #210 Hecuba’s daughter

Vermont is one of the most vaccinated states in the country and is about to hit an all time high in covid cases. Look forward to Joe Biden and the media telling me how this is all Ron Desantis’s fault.

Delta Dolts

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darthstar  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:36:58am

re: #209 No Malarkey!

How it started/How it’s going.

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Accidentally clicked on the twitter link. She’s still posting so she can’t be that bad. But I also saw this tweet below. Good times ahead.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:37:10am

re: #209 No Malarkey!

How it started/How it’s going.

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Holy fajitas!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:43:16am

Good response to the my body my choice covidiot crowd.

It’s not what you choose to put in your body that matters to the rest of us.
It’s what comes out of your body that we refuse to allow you to share.

Stop asserting the right to shiat in the pool, sneeze on the salad bar, or puke in the punch bowl.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:44:40am

Turns out that photo of Clooney in the loser t-shirt is a Photoshop.

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darthstar  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:48:57am

re: #218 No Malarkey!

Turns out that photo of Clooney in the loser t-shirt is a Photoshop.

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Casamigos is his brand. I like the blanco but the reposado and anejo aren’t bad either.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:51:52am

re: #213 Teukka

Just a question, what has she been saying with “aborted baby parts” in the vaccines?

I’ve never seen her comment on abortion so she may not care about that; hostility to Muslims is her most prominent position. Not all fanatic Trumpsters are theocrats motivated primarily by an objection to Roe v Wade.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:52:59am

re: #209 No Malarkey!

How it started/How it’s going.

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Shall we start a pool to guess when Laura Loomer shows up on sorryantivaxxer.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:53:23am

re: #220 Hecuba’s daughter

I’ve never seen her comment on abortion so she may not care about that; hostility to Muslims is her most prominent position. Not all fanatic Trumpsters are theocrats motivated primarily by an objection to Roe v Wade women as anything but the property of their fathers/husbands.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:56:20am

re: #221 JOE 🥓

Shall we start a pool to guess when Laura Loomer shows up on sorryantivaxxer.com

She received monoclonal antibody treatment — so she is likely to survive her illness.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 17, 2021 • 7:59:05am

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

She received monoclonal antibody treatment — so she is likely to survive her illness.

But she’ll learn nothing from the pain of the experience.

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lawhawk  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:07:28am

They had it coming… they had it coming.. they have only themselves to blame…

Bwhaha… so many points of failure here. Not getting vaxxed is actually the second point of failure. The first is that only one person knew what to do with these systems, and no one else knew/accessed these systems. Having a backup is essential business process.

You want to make sure that if someone who has critical knowledge wins lottery, you have someone available to fill in right away.

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Mattand  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:09:07am

re: #162 JOE 🥓

Memories of the 60s when there was a LOT of stupidity in the air when it came to hair. Parents would complain about teachers with long hair before the School “Bored” and oh I had to keep my hair severely trimmed because of it’s tendency to turn into an Afro which only made the teachers and their pets attack me more calling me “N-Word-Head”. Of course these same Xtians would go to church on Sunday and kneel before statues of a guy with long hair and a beard and that was OK.

I haven’t had it quite that bad, but I can report that male hair length is still an issue for people, than things like a Republican President actively starting an insurrection.

I let mine go down to my shoulders over the last 18 months, due to avoiding barbershops pre-vaccine. I’ve already dealt with cancer; I don’t fucking need to see what happens when you add COVID to the mix.

It’s probably been 70%/30% “You need to get it cut” vs. “It looks fine”. It’s not my intention, but it really bugs the shit out of people in my neck of the woods.

I wrote about it before, but I was told my best friend’s wife that between the hair and the red Phillies cap, I looked like a MAGAt. Which, beyond the obvious insult of being compared to one of those fucking idiots, was stupid because her 20 year old son and her brother-in-law, both MAGAts, are either buzzcut or bald.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:09:21am

re: #225 lawhawk

They had it coming… they had it coming.. they have only themselves to blame…

Bwhaha… so many points of failure here. Not getting vaxxed is actually the second point of failure. The first is that only one person knew what to do with these systems, and no one else knew/accessed these systems. Having a backup is essential business process.

You want to make sure that if someone who has critical knowledge wins lottery, you have someone available to fill in right away.

In a few weeks they’ll figure out that the password is “Trump2024”.

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darthstar  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:10:00am

re: #221 JOE 🥓

Shall we start a pool to guess when Laura Loomer shows up on sorryantivaxxer.com

She’s been nominated for a Herman Cain award…normally they only use the first name to keep nominees and ‘winners’ privacy respected, but not in Laura’s case.

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darthstar  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:11:01am

re: #228 darthstar

She’s been nominated for a Herman Cain award…normally they only use the first name to keep nominees and ‘winners’ privacy respected, but not in Laura’s case.

Aw…tardigrade on violin!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:13:54am

re: #229 darthstar

Aw…tardigrade on violin!

Nope. That’s a viola da gamba, played on one of its 4 knees.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:14:30am

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

She received monoclonal antibody treatment — so she is likely to survive her illness.

They don’t always wait for someone to die, though if she doesn’t have to go to the ICU, she probably won’t make the cut.

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Jay C  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:19:15am

re: #225 lawhawk

They had it coming… they had it coming.. they have only themselves to blame…

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And wait til they unlock the software, and find out that their funds have been transferred to the Baku branch of the Banco di Bratva of Cyprus….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:22:18am

re: #168 The Pie Overlord!

“If I owned Texas and I owned Hell, I’d live in Hell and rent out Texas.” — Some Civil War general whose name I don’t feel like Googling.

My great-great-great-uncle Phil Sheridan

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:24:59am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

In a few weeks they’ll figure out that the password is “Trump2024”.

Even if they learn the password, they may have to pay real money to get someone who can maintain/operate the system. Small organizations are always at the mercy of the software elites who support them.

Of course — there can be problems at larger organizations too. My late husband told of a system at the large bank that employed him that needed to be updated because it stopped working due to a computer upgrade. One of his colleagues finally tracked down the error to a single line of code — and then discovered that the code called a 2000 line undocumented subroutine written by an outside contractor (who was also a mathematician) that involved a complicated mathematical algorithm that no one at the bank understood. That was the end of their ability to deal with that issue. I believe that the program may have been written in APL (which would make the problem several orders of magnitude worse).

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lawhawk  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:25:03am
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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:25:18am

re: #170 Barefoot Grin

And of course the little strap on the back of the collar of a button-down shirt? Mocked for having a “fruit loop.”

In the early eighties when I went to school, that thing was more coarsely referred to as a “fag-tag.”

Same old homophobia, just more in your face about it.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:26:43am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

My great-great-great-uncle Phil Sheridan

Cool to have an armored fighting vehicle named for you.

en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:27:41am

re: #178 Decatur Deb

I went to 7-8 schools in the PGH area (we moved a lot). Most were Catholic. Your school was pathological.

high

I can’t stay long, you lucky devils.

Being a Navy brat, I went to a bunch of schools. From junior high school to graduation I went to four (East Lansing, Ithaca, Brazil, Carson City, 1, 2, and 4 in Michigan, 3 being an exchange student and only being able to go because my mother won the Michigan Lottery).

Because I was interested in education and not athletics, I was shunned.

As for my graduating class of seventeen from Carson City, half are dead and most of the rest unemployed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:31:09am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is exactly one person my high school whom I have remained in regular contact and maybe a couple more I would enjoy seeing or hearing from again.

Of the other seven people living I graduated with, I am not particularly interested in speaking with (bullying poor people was their thing).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:35:03am

re: #199 Belafon

2. Pregnant women with a foetus of twenty-eight weeks of gestation.

So they are admitting here the bullshyte “heartbeat” bills are in fact bullshyte?

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:36:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:38:43am

re: #199 Belafon

#2 is interesting: Pregnant women with a viable pregnancy, at more than 28 weeks of gestation.

That creates new sources of income for Texan bounty hunters, if any Texas women happen to be in Idaho and find themselves in need of hospitalization.

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Jay C  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:41:50am

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

Woohoo

I was somewhat surprised to tune in to Jeopardy! this week (first of the new season), and see Mike Richards at the podium: I suppose they had to get some shows in the can to meet the opening deadline.
Unenthusiastic about Ken Jennings, though: I like him well enough, but he just didn’t seem to have that natural “hosting” ability Alex Trebek had (then again, who did??).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:42:08am

re: #241 No Malarkey!

Guess which state I’m in. Go on, guess.

(Yes, I’m fully vaccinated)

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mmmirele  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:46:52am

I just realized that there are two pictures for two different posts on the front page of LGF and that is just a complete sign of how things are going right now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:49:19am

re: #206 Dopamine Fish

Stupid Fucking Texas. This is why we can’t have nice things.

And feral conservatives are going to get worse.

With Idaho authorising triage protocols at hospitals and clinics, plus the huge combination of libertarianism and guns, I expect things will become violent at their healthcare facilities when someone says “your mother is going to have to wait.”

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John Hughes  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:53:33am

re: #149 No Malarkey!

Floriduh is averaging 510 deaths a day right now.

Jesus fucking Christ — France is on 81, the UK on 138. These figures are not adjusted for population.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:54:05am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:54:19am

Alabama is going to support this virus until it wins.

Alabama bill would let workers sue if they get sick from employer-mandated COVID vaccines
al.com

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lawhawk  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:56:51am

re: #249 Decatur Deb

Alabama is going to support this virus until it wins.

Alabama bill would let workers sue if they get sick from employer-mandated COVID vaccines
al.com

Sure. How about the corollary - suing employers who don’t impose vaccination requirements and don’t take public health precautions. Oh… wait…

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:59:00am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

2. Pregnant women with a foetus of twenty-eight weeks of gestation.

So they are admitting here the bullshyte “heartbeat” bills are in fact bullshyte?

“We admit nothing!” - proponents of forced-birth ” heartbeat” bills

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mmmirele  Sep 17, 2021 • 8:59:06am

re: #166 No Malarkey!

I have some knowledge of this in general, because I litigated child support cases. They want to sue the dad to recover the assistance they are providing for the child.

Yeah, and I suspect the situation today is the same as when I practiced law—the guys more or less drop off the radar or move into informal work to avoid garnishment. (This was in Texas, where the first, last and only solution for child support was garnishment.) Which is completely unhelpful for the women and children.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:06:42am

re: #235 lawhawk

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:08:26am
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John Hughes  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:08:36am

re: #156 JOE 🥓

Oh the time Mom dressed me in a pink shirt and sent me off to 3rd grade where the teacher made me stand up and she made fun of me…I went home took the shirt off and threw it in the trash…

Your mum should have thrown the teacher in the trash.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:10:13am

re: #149 No Malarkey!

Floriduh is averaging 510 deaths a day right now.

According to Worldometer, we’ve surpassed our peak number of active cases in Nebraska a few weeks ago. Currently we have 82,315 (that would be from our state’s weekly summary reports). That rate is increasing; deaths will follow in a couple weeks.

The total number of deaths recorded is 2,368 (we’ve wiped out the population of our seventy-third largest county out of ninety-three).

The Nebraska Panhandle still has one of the lowest vaccination rates of any area in the USA. I live in a soup of Covid-19.

worldometers.info

Hospitalisations are rising here again, now at twenty. The weekly positivity rate is 10.8% (and testing is not available unless you present to a hospital with symptoms or have returned from international travel, cost about $200, cash or cheque only).

Largest groups by age: 20-29, then 30-39, then 40-49

Total cases in the Panhandle plus Grant County: 10,633 (about 1/8 of the populace)

Percentage fully vaccinated: 36% (vaccines are only available in eight counties out of twelve, mostly at hospitals by appointment)

pphd.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:10:38am

re: #235 lawhawk

Biden is apparently willing to allow people to die in Florida to score points against Governor Ron Desantis.

By not allowing them to force doctors to administer horse paste in hospitals?

I do not get his line of attack, but it is not necessary. All his base needs to hear is “Biden Bad!” and they will repeat it even louder and more insistently.

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lawhawk  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:14:17am

re: #254 jaunte

And despite all the regeneron, the number of Floridians dying keeps rising.

Regeneron doesn’t prevent covid. Vaccines do that. Masks do that.

DeSantis doesn’t care; he’s hoping to profit and benefit from the use of regeneron, while exporting the damage to Biden. Personalize the profit, socialize the costs to everyone else, especially Biden and Democrats.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:14:51am

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷


The Nebraska Panhandle still has one of the lowest vaccination rates of any area in the USA. I live in a soup of Covid-19.

worldometers.info


pphd.org

If you don’t have a pathway to fast, cheap, testing for the two of you, it’s time to find one. The post-infection antibody treatment is very important, and you will miss the window without early detection.

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A Cranky One  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:17:01am

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:17:32am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:18:14am

re: #261 jaunte

I do wish they had used another color.

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Nojay UK  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:18:30am

re: #261 jaunte

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You can be sure some folks will call this a “false flag” operation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:18:32am

re: #261 jaunte

But the crowd for Trump’s inauguration was bigger!!!

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mmmirele  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:18:38am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you are right about that, the testing option applies only to companies with 100 employees or more.

We had an Ask Me Anything on Wednesday with the executive VP of tech (a wag like me calls these AMAs “Better Call Saul” because his name is Saul). He was asked about this, and said “the company is looking into this. yes, yes, stay tuned.” So not sure how it’s going to turn out.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:18:44am

re: #221 JOE 🥓

Shall we start a pool to guess when Laura Loomer shows up on sorryantivaxxer.com

She can be reported now. They track prominent figures who are antivaxxers who fall ill, and update if they die or recover.

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:18:59am

re: #262 Decatur Deb

Gives it that Arlington effect.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:19:51am

re: #262 Decatur Deb

I do wish they had used another color.

The surrender flags should just be for the people dead in states where their leaders worked to kill them.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:19:52am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She can be reported now. They track prominent figures who are antivaxxers who fall ill, and update if they die or recover.

I already did.

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darthstar  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:21:11am

ETTD

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:21:13am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

In a few weeks they’ll figure out that the password is “Trump2024”.

Covfefe

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:21:29am

re: #268 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The surrender flags should just be for the people dead in states where their leaders worked to kill them.

When I look at Alabama’s state response, “surrender” is what I see.

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Jay C  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:22:05am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Biden is apparently willing to allow people to die in Florida to score points against Governor Ron Desantis.

By not allowing them to force doctors to administer horse paste in hospitals?

I do not get his line of attack, but it is not necessary. All his base needs to hear is “Biden Bad!” and they will repeat it even louder and more insistently.

I don’t gets Newt’s “logic”, either - though as you point out, dumping on the (Democratic) President is all he wants to get across. Though I would really like to know what that “willing to allow people to die” shit is about: AFAICT, it is the Florida State government (run, as we all know, by medical expert Ron DeSantis) who have proactively stood in the way of pandemic-mitigation efforts*, and done its best to downplay any public dangers from a dangerously transmissible virus, all in the name of “business as usual” and “freedom (sic)”..

* I was going to add a line about promoting COVID vaccination efforts, but realized (not being in Florida) I have no idea how that state has dealt with trying to get shots in arms. I know here in NY, the state (and CIty) governments have been all over the issue (and are saying they are going to be ramping up similar efforts for the booster shots) - but then again, Apples and Oranges…..

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Jay C  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:23:51am

re: #270 darthstar

ETTD

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Gee, Jared Kushner is involved, whatta shocker….
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John Hughes  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:25:45am

re: #197 Belafon

Laurie_Garrett —
More than 3000 healthcare workers were placed on suspension without pay yesterday in France. They refused #COVID19 #vaccination.

Less than 4000 healthcare(*) workers out of about 2 million were suspended without pay in France yesterday.

(* She says “more than 3,000” — all other sources say “around 3,000”).

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Dave In Austin  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:26:54am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:28:31am

re: #276 Dave In Austin

I think he’s right that legal weed motivates the average voter more than voting rights.
We are not a smart people.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:31:42am

The morning Old West Tropical Update.

Nicholas is still hanging in there.

NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD AL142021
1000 AM CDT Fri Sep 17 2021

…POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE NICHOLAS DRIFTING NORTHWEST INTO WESTERN
LOUISIANA…
…FLASH FLOODING REMAINS POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE
CENTRAL GULF COAST…

SUMMARY OF 1000 AM CDT…1500 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————-
LOCATION…31.7N 93.2W
ABOUT 65 MI…100 KM SSE OF SHREVEPORT LOUISIANA
ABOUT 50 MI…80 KM NW OF ALEXANDRIA LOUISIANA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…15 MPH…30 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…N OR 360 DEGREES AT 7 MPH…11 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…1012 MB…29.89 INCHES

WATCHES AND WARNINGS
——————————
Flash Flood Watches are in effect along sections of the central
Gulf Coast from southeast Louisiana across southern Mississippi and
southern Alabama into the Florida Panhandle.

After the low pressure dissipates in about forty-eight hours, the unstable and humid tropical air will remain over the central Gulf Coast, providing additional feed for rain showers. Since Nicholas is still a distinct system and not merging with any other system, it retains its name even though it’s been over land for many days now.

Elsewhere:

Wave #1 is now more than halfway across the Atlantic. It has a high chance of becoming a tropical cyclone, and the northern part of the Lesser Antilles are now in the predicted path of the system. The National Hurricane Center suggests interests in the Leeward Islands monitor the system. Beyond the projected path lies The Bahamas and South Florida.

Wave #2 is 150 miles east of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina. It also has a high probability of becoming a tropical cyclone, but is not expected to strike the United States. However, dangerous waves and rip currents are expected all along the Atlantic seaboard.

Wave #3 is now well-away from Africa, but is no longer expected to strike the Cape Verde Islands. It has a low probability of development.

Five Day Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook

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gwangung  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:31:46am

re: #277 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I think he’s right that legal weed motivates the average voter more than voting rights.
We are not a smart people.

The average non-Black voter…I think Black voters rate voting rights more highly.

(Asian voters I think rate it like white voters; not sure about Latinx voters…)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:34:52am

re: #244 Eclectic Cyborg

Guess which state I’m in. Go on, guess.

(Yes, I’m fully vaccinated)

The state of frustration?

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Jay C  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:35:12am

re: #277 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I think he’s right that legal weed motivates the average voter more than voting rights.
We are not a smart people.

True, but I think it unlikely (given his history) that a Senator Fetterman would downplay or back-burner voting-rights issues, legal MJ notwithstanding. He’s no Joe Manchin….

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:37:01am

re: #279 gwangung

The average non-Black voter…I think Black voters rate voting rights more highly.

(Asian voters I think rate it like white voters; not sure about Latinx voters…)

Everybody gets to set their own priority. Her timeline reads like a false-front provocateur.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:39:22am

re: #277 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I think he’s right that legal weed motivates the average voter more than voting rights.
We are not a smart people.

and once the GOP take over, legal weed will help us cope with the consequences…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:40:09am

re: #279 gwangung

The average non-Black voter…I think Black voters rate voting rights more highly.

(Asian voters I think rate it like white voters; not sure about Latinx voters…)

Probably black voters do, but black people who don’t vote now may be motivated by legal weed. A lot of black people will consider voting to be rigged against them, because it is, and may just be resigned to it always being rigged.

We all know voting is the most important topic, but most people do not have our interest in politics.

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garzooma  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:41:18am

re: #281 Jay C

True, but I think it unlikely (given his history) that a Senator Fetterman would downplay or back-burner voting-rights issues, legal MJ notwithstanding. He’s no Joe Manchin….

I forget. Did any of the 2 dozen or so Democratic presidential primary candidates focus on voting rights?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:41:55am

re: #283 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and once the GOP take over, legal weed will help us cope with the consequences…

It helped me with the Trump disaster, but not as much as voting last November did.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:43:13am

re: #259 Decatur Deb

If you don’t have a pathway to fast, cheap, testing for the two of you, it’s time to find one. The post-infection antibody treatment is very important, and you will miss the window without early detection.

Our path to fast cheap testing would be driving to Colorado. We can also go to Wyoming to the Veterans Administration, since the VA now will test the family members of veterans, regardless of caregiver status. (I consider my wife a caregiver, but the VA does not. /s)

We are both vaccinated, me since January, my wife since May.

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JC1  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:45:47am

re: #9 EPR-radar

Sadly, the expensive Regeneron treatment is likely to keep this aggressively stupid idiot alive.

She’s young enough that she most likely would live regardless.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:46:01am

re: #287 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Our path to fast cheap testing would be driving to Colorado. We can also go to Wyoming to the Veterans Administration, since the VA now will test the family members of veterans, regardless of caregiver status. (I consider my wife a caregiver, but the VA does not. /s)

We are both vaccinated, me since January, my wife since May.

So are we, but we needed the antibody drip, and Wife couldn’t get it. You will have to measure the likelihood of a false alarm against the cost of your trips, and that could delay you.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:49:31am

re: #225 lawhawk

They had it coming… they had it coming.. they have only themselves to blame…

Bwhaha… so many points of failure here. Not getting vaxxed is actually the second point of failure. The first is that only one person knew what to do with these systems, and no one else knew/accessed these systems. Having a backup is essential business process.

You want to make sure that if someone who has critical knowledge wins lottery, you have someone available to fill in right away.

Also can look at that as giving someone a really really good embezzlement opportunity.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:50:40am

re: #290 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Also can look at that as giving someone a really really good embezzlement opportunity.

Right. Why bother with the lottery when you’re the only one who can see the books.

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gocart mozart  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:51:14am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:51:14am

I suspect an antivax position will become part of the GOP platform for 2022. Let’s see how that works.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:52:18am

re: #288 JC1

She’s young enough that she most likely would live regardless.

Yep, and she’s more evil than stupid, so she got an actual treatment rather than a toxic folk remedy. She’ll remain her old wretched self.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:53:38am

re: #293 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I suspect an antivax position will become part of the GOP platform for 2022. Let’s see how that works.

Bring back Polio! We’re not letting the libtards tell us how to live.

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gocart mozart  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:54:59am
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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 17, 2021 • 9:57:59am

re: #296 gocart mozart

It sure beats drilling a hole in your head to let the demons out.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:00:27am

re: #297 Shropshire Slasher

It sure beats drilling a hole in your head to let the demons out.

Follow the advice of your shaman.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:01:39am

re: #298 Decatur Deb

Follow the advice of your shaman.

He has a degree from Shaman U

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JOE 🥓  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:02:45am

re: #255 John Hughes

Your mum should have thrown the teacher in the trash.

Nope. When Mom and Dad complained to the School Bored they defended the teacher and said that boys should not wear any pink clothes.

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A Cranky One  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:05:50am

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Dangerman  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:06:24am

re: #234 Hecuba’s daughter

Even if they learn the password, they may have to pay real money to get someone who can maintain/operate the system. Small organizations are always at the mercy of the software elites who support them.

Of course — there can be problems at larger organizations too. My late husband told of a system at the large bank that employed him that needed to be updated because it stopped working due to a computer upgrade. One of his colleagues finally tracked down the error to a single line of code — and then discovered that the code called a 2000 line undocumented subroutine written by an outside contractor (who was also a mathematician) that involved a complicated mathematical algorithm that no one at the bank understood. That was the end of their ability to deal with that issue. I believe that the program may have been written in APL (which would make the problem several orders of magnitude worse).

Cross training is too expensive.
Besides, what could happen? //

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:08:55am

re: #276 Dave In Austin

And yet:

John Fetterman wants Democrats to stop wasting time and eliminate the filibuster (CNN, September 10, arguing for a $15 minimum wage, voting rights, and safeguarding access to abortion)

John Fetterman, Speaking to Texas Democrats, Calls Voter Fraud a Fiction (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, July 24, 2021)

There are many other times he has spoken up about voter rights.

This Sasha person was tweeting about a Forbes article where Mr. Fetterman spoke up about legal weed.

It turns out you can advocate for more than one thing at a time.

forbes.com

Freaking South Dakota passed legal weed in a referendum by an overwhelming margin. The only reason it isn’t implemented is because Kristi Noem is using the same strategy that Nebraska’s GOP did when it passed legal weed: Find a sheriff to sue to overturn the referendum, financed with state tax money, arguing the referendum covers more than one subject (possession, purchase, transport, growing all considered separate subjects)

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:11:34am

re: #303 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And yet:

John Fetterman wants Democrats to stop wasting time and eliminate the filibuster (CNN, September 10, arguing for a $15 minimum wage, voting rights, and safeguarding access to abortion)

John Fetterman, Speaking to Texas Democrats, Calls Voter Fraud a Fiction (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, July 24, 2021)

There are many other times he has spoken up about voter rights.

This Sasha person was tweeting about a Forbes article where Mr. Fetterman spoke up about legal weed.

It turns out you can advocate for more than one thing at a time.

forbes.com

Freaking South Dakota passed legal weed in a referendum by an overwhelming margin. The only reason it isn’t implemented is because Kristi Noem is using the same strategy that Nebraska’s GOP did when it passed legal weed: Find a sheriff to sue to overturn the referendum, financed with state tax money, arguing the referendum covers more than one subject (possession, purchase, transport, growing all considered separate subjects)

Sasha is in a bubble, probably one infiltrated by shills.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:11:35am

re: #292 gocart mozart

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well, there goes the rest of my day.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:13:01am

re: #3 No Malarkey!

[Embedded content]

Does she know what is in that Regeneron treatment? Isn’t that treatment still under Emergency Use?

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Dangerman  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:13:31am

re: #253 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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Meghan McCain works for the daily mail now

Read this quick analysis of how pathetic that is and all you need to know about The Mail

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:13:51am

re: #289 Decatur Deb

So are we, but we needed the antibody drip, and Wife couldn’t get it. You will have to measure the likelihood of a false alarm against the cost of your trips, and that could delay you.

Basically, my plan is to stay home.

There really isn’t much I can do when my governor is actively trying to kill us.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:15:04am

re: #308 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Basically, my plan is to stay home.

There really isn’t much I can do when my governor is actively trying to kill us.

I don’t know much about the reliability and speed of home test kits, but they’re showing up at our pharmacies.

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sagehen  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:15:40am

re: #273 Jay C

* I was going to add a line about promoting COVID vaccination efforts, but realized (not being in Florida) I have no idea how that state has dealt with trying to get shots in arms. I know here in NY, the state (and CIty) governments have been all over the issue (and are saying they are going to be ramping up similar efforts for the booster shots) - but then again, Apples and Oranges…..

Early in the shots distribution, Florida had vaccine tourism (they were only distributing to a few very specific upscale locations, not accessible by public transport). People with private jets came from all the other states, and a number of Central and South American countries, to get jabbed.

While low-income Floridians had no access.

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Dangerman  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:15:50am

re: #260 A Cranky One

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Gives a whole new meaning to “thank you, Masked Man”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:17:30am

re: #303 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

One of the worst aspects of social media is the way that any given statement about X is extrapolated into a lack of interest in Y…and having made that assumption, then trashing the person. It’s making up a guy to be mad at, and that’s not a function of any one ideology but instead a kind of weaponized shallowness that anyone can apply—things exist to the extent they facilitate the next Tweet because rhetoric is more important than validity.

Why go through extra steps of rigor when the desired outcome is the attention and confirmation of an already-held position that suggest you’re winning in the (vomit) marketplace of ideas?

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Teukka  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:19:38am

re: #301 A Cranky One

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This needs to be made into a slogan!

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:20:56am

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

According to Worldometer, we’ve surpassed our peak number of active cases in Nebraska a few weeks ago. Currently we have 82,315 (that would be from our state’s weekly summary reports). That rate is increasing; deaths will follow in a couple weeks.

The total number of deaths recorded is 2,368 (we’ve wiped out the population of our seventy-third largest county out of ninety-three).

The Nebraska Panhandle still has one of the lowest vaccination rates of any area in the USA. I live in a soup of Covid-19.

worldometers.info

Hospitalisations are rising here again, now at twenty. The weekly positivity rate is 10.8% (and testing is not available unless you present to a hospital with symptoms or have returned from international travel, cost about $200, cash or cheque only).

Largest groups by age: 20-29, then 30-39, then 40-49

Total cases in the Panhandle plus Grant County: 10,633 (about 1/8 of the populace)

Percentage fully vaccinated: 36% (vaccines are only available in eight counties out of twelve, mostly at hospitals by appointment)

pphd.org

Here in Kentucky, you can walk into any pharmacy and get vaccinated, no appointment necessary. I don’t understand why vaccine availability is so limited in Nebraska. Is it because demand is so low?

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nines09  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:22:28am

re: #303 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Bullshit. John has consistently ran on voting rights, LGBTQ rights, higher minimum wages, taxing the rich and corporations who get away with murder, and he is pro legal weed but does not imbibe himself. Legalization is part of his platform.
One more clueless bobblehead.
States that have legalized MJ have made billions in tax revenue. John knows this. John also knows that Jersey and New York and Delaware are all going to legalize.
So Pennsylvania can either legalize or watch the money ride away.
Do you know why Casino gambling was enacted here? Canada legalized gaming. All the border states screamed about the money riding away.
Like the Lotto.
Same with MJ legalization. It will ride away.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:23:54am

re: #307 Dangerman

Meghan McCain works for the daily mail now

Read this quick analysis of how pathetic that is and all you need to know about The Mail

And about the Wingnut Industrial Media Complex. There really isn’t that many places to go for Wingnut Welfare, and those places already have popular writers or presenters.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:25:05am

re: #293 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I suspect an antivax position will become part of the GOP platform for 2022. Let’s see how that works.

Famously, the GOP didn’t adopt a platform in 2020. They almost literally ran solely on “Orange man good.”

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austin_blue  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:27:35am

re: #57 teleskiguy

Thank you retired cynic for my 200,000th karma upding.

So, what color do you want your toaster oven to be?

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CleverToad  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:27:41am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

My great-great-great-uncle Phil Sheridan

My husband says that his father — also a Sheridan but not the same branch — lived in Texas for 20-some years and agreed with the General on that subject.

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Sep 17, 2021 • 10:40:22am

Not entirely fair, because this freakazoid Sovereign Citizen’s trial by combat would probably be a lot less dignified.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 17, 2021 • 1:23:41pm

re: #309 Decatur Deb

I don’t know much about the reliability and speed of home test kits, but they’re showing up at our pharmacies.

In our county, Washtenaw, MI, public health sent households a box of 25 tests.


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