Joanna Newsom’s Astounding Masterpiece: “Sapokanikan”

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I believe I posted this video once before, but I just rediscovered this incredible song’s powerful, inventive arrangement, and its intense, deep lyrics. The video brings Joanna Newsom’s poetry to life in a very beautiful and ultimately sad way.

You don’t have to be a former English lit major to get all the references, but it probably helps. For the rest of us there’s Google and it’s worth the keystrokes.

Track from Joanna Newsom LP/CASS/CD “Divers”, available on October 23, 2015 on Drag City.
Order now at: http://www.dragcity.com/products/divers

iTunes: apple.co/Divers-iT
Apple Music: apple.co/Divers

VIDEO
Directed by Paul Thomas Anderson
Produced by Sara Murphy, Albert Chi, Erica Frauman
Edited by Andy Jurgensen

Camera: Adam Kimmel, Aaron Tichenor
Telecine Colorist: Gregg Garvin
Production Company: Ghoulardi Film Company

Crew:
Jeff Kunkel, Robert Ellenberg, Aly Migliori, Louis Matta, Christian Gagnier, Nigel S. Clayton, Zander Fife, Dylan Tichenor, Cassandra Kulukundis

MUSIC
Joanna Newsom: Piano, Schiedmayer Celesta, Vocals
Neal Morgan: Drums and Percussion
Ryan Francesconi: Guitar, Bass Guitar, Bouzouki, Baglama
Judith Linsenberg: Recorder
Andy Strain: Trombone

Produced & Mixed by Joanna Newsom & Noah Georgeson
Recorded by Steve Albini & Noah Georgeson
Written by Joanna Newsom

Arrangement of Trombone, Recorder, Bouzouki, Baglama, and Guitars by Ryan Francesconi

Arrangement of Drums & Percussion by Neal Morgan

LYRICS
The cause is Ozymandian
The map of Sapokanikan
Is sanded and bevelled
The land lone and levelled
By some unrecorded and powerful hand

Which plays along the monument
And drums upon a plastic bag
The brave-men-and-women-so-dear-to-God-
And-famous-to-all-of-the-ages rag

Sang: Do you love me?
Will you remember?
The snow falls above me
The renderer renders:
The event is in the hand of God

Beneath a patch of grass, her
Bones the old Dutch master hid
While elsewhere Tobias
And the angel disguise
What the scholars surmise was a mother and kid

Interred with other daughters
In dirt in other potters’ fields
Above them, parades
Mark the passing of days
Through parks where pale colonnades arch in marble and steel

Where all of the twenty-thousand attending your footfall
And the causes they died for are lost in the idling bird calls
And the records they left are cryptic at best
Lost in obsolescence
The text will not yield, nor x-ray reveal
With any fluorescence
Where the hand of the master begins and ends

I fell, I tried to do well but I won’t be
Will you tell the one that I love to remember and hold me
I call and call for the doctor
But the snow swallows me whole with ol’ Florry Walker
And the event lives only in print

He said:
“It’s alright”
And “It’s all over now”
And boarded the plane
His belt unfastened
The boy was known to show unusual daring
And, called a “boy”
This alderman, confounding Tammany Hall
In whose employ King Tamanend himself preceeded John’s fall

So we all raise a standard
To which the wise and honest soul may repair
To which a hunter
A hundred years from now, may look and despair
And see with wonder
The tributes we have left to rust in the parks
Swearing that our hair stood on end
To see John Purroy Mitchel depart

For the Western front where our work might count
O mercy! O God!
Go out, await the hunter to decipher the stone
And what lies under the city is gone

Look and despair
Look and despair

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353 comments
1
Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:39:36pm
2
Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:42:34pm

She’s brilliant.

3
Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:42:45pm

I kinda like it when Anderson lets his inner bitch run free like that. If only the rest of CNN followed suit.

4
No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:43:25pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I kinda like it when Anderson lets his inner bitch run free like that. If only the rest of CNN followed suit.

CNN is Fox News Lite

5
Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:44:31pm

Full disclosure: I actually am a former English lit major, albeit briefly and uncoventionally.

6
Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:46:23pm
7
Dopamine Fish  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:46:47pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I kinda like it when Anderson lets his inner bitch run free like that. If only the rest of CNN followed suit.

Anderson Cooper has been one of my favorite news personalities for quite some time. He’s really sharp, and he takes NO shit.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:49:26pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Full disclosure: I actually am a former English lit major, albeit briefly and uncoventionally.

I started out that way. That’s why I had several classes together with Amy Ray and Emily from the Indigo Girls. But I went to the more profitable major of Anthropology.

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:51:03pm

I used to listen to Joanna back in the Milk-Eyed Mender days, when she mainly played harp. I haven’t listened to all of this one yet but the first couple of minutes remind me why I liked her in the first place.

And I was once in a prog band called Ozymandias, so I appreciate the reference. :)

10
Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:51:27pm

Head desking right now.

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:52:07pm
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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:52:33pm

re: #9 makeitstop

I used to listen to Joanna back in the Milk-Eyed Mender days, when she mainly played harp. I haven’t listened to all of this one yet but the first couple of minutes remind me why I liked her in the first place.

And I was once in a prog band called Ozymandias, so I appreciate the reference. :)

Also - I’m surprised to see Steve Albini’s name in the credits! I recently started following him on Twitter.

13
Charles Johnson  Jan 7, 2022 • 5:55:06pm
14
Dangerman  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:03:01pm

re: #11 Belafon

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Substitute TB for covid

15
Captain Ron  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:03:38pm

Today’s Covid-19 numbers. California, we’re #1!

16
Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:08:21pm

re: #8 Barefoot Grin

I started out that way. That’s why I had several classes together with Amy Ray and Emily from the Indigo Girls. But I went to the more profitable major of Anthropology.

Big money in flint knapping.

17
Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:13:00pm

The poet looks like someone to check out, but the singer is beating about The Bush.

18
jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:24:46pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

How I spent my freshman year.

19
First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:28:04pm

I somehow forgot about Joanna Newsom, having first heard of her during the “Sprout and the Bean” days. This video is one of those weird mind-benders where you find out the person doesn’t look anything like you’d imagined them from their voice.

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A Cranky One  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:28:06pm

re: #18 jaunte

How I spent my freshman year.

I was pretty lit my freshman year too.

What, English lit?

Never mind.

21
William Lewis  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:28:29pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Full disclosure: I actually am a former English lit major, albeit briefly and uncoventionally.

Before I dropped out to put my GF through college, I was chasing a Philosophy/English double major. Now if I go back, I want to do something much more profitable like Paleoanthropology …

;)

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:32:41pm

When I was growing up the Electoral College was like “predestination” for me. I just could NOT wrap my mind around the logic and reasoning for either of them.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:36:36pm

re: #21 William Lewis

Before I dropped out to put my GF through college, I was chasing a Philosophy/English double major. Now if I go back, I want to do something much more profitable like Paleoanthropology …

;)

Lewis—this will crack you up. Check out what the well—appointed 84 Bravo was packing in 1951.

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austin_blue  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:39:26pm

re: #9 makeitstop

I used to listen to Joanna back in the Milk-Eyed Mender days, when she mainly played harp. I haven’t listened to all of this one yet but the first couple of minutes remind me why I liked her in the first place.

And I was once in a prog band called Ozymandias, so I appreciate the reference. :)

As you all know, She Who Must Be Obeyed is a harper who can basically play anything you put in front of her. Folk, Western Swing, Celtic, Rock, Mahler, Bartok, Iranian, North African, Andean, Mexican, Brazilian, Raga, she can and has played it all, and still does.

She thinks Joanna is a fascinating musician.

Joanna is a classically trained harpist and her harping is spot-on.

Her vocals, on the other hand, are… adventurist. SWMBO isn’t sure if she is just not completely in control of her voice or if she is doing exactly what she is meaning to do.

I don’t want to jump in to that discussion, I just find her music fascinating.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:39:57pm

Had to cancel the above—it loaded the entire .pdf instead of the url. Will try again.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:44:09pm

Can’t make it work. For old-school photographers who are interested in then-state-of-the-art, add “h” and”pdf” to complete the below.

Nope—still struggling.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:44:53pm

re: #26 Decatur Deb

Lots of interesting stuff in there, thanks for posting!

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:45:22pm

Freaking omicron.

So many closures. Friday nights we like to order out for pickup. Both the good local restaurants are closed temporarily due to a lack of uninfected staff. IOW, a staff infection. Looks like Manwich will do for now.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:47:38pm
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William Lewis  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:50:14pm

re: #26 Decatur Deb

Can’t make it work. For old-school photographers who are interested in then-state-of-the-art, add “h” and”pdf” to complete the below.

ttps://radionerds.com.

Cool. Funny that they only provided a 50, 90 & 135 but no 35 lenses.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:52:18pm

re: #25 Decatur Deb

Had to cancel the above—it loaded the entire .pdf instead of the url. Will try again.

Find the archaic photographic tech manual by googling:

TM_11-487F-1951.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:53:32pm

re: #30 William Lewis

Cool. Funny that they only provided a 50, 90 & 135 but no 35 lenses.

“If you can WA the enemy, you’re too damn close.”

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Cheechako  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:56:12pm

A forecast I’m not looking forward to:

It’s even worse than it looks. We already have about 18 inches of snow with about 2 inches of ice at the bottom already on the ground and most roofs.

To top that off, the forecast for the middle of next week is for temps in the 40’s with 2-4 inches of rain.

34
Captain Ron  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:57:41pm

Their ranting doesn’t even make sense anymore. I think they all have BSE.

35
William Lewis  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:58:15pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

“If you can WA the enemy, you’re too damn close.”

true enough ;) Though the 127 on 4x5 is a slightly wide angle so there is that option :D

36
jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:59:13pm

re: #34 Dread Pirate Ron

Covid Tsunami Thread:
Gutfeld is full of shit.

37
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2022 • 6:59:40pm

re: #15 Dread Pirate Ron

Today’s Covid-19 numbers. California, we’re #1!

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Except Florida is absolutely lying. 💯 L Y I N G.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:00:48pm

re: #35 William Lewis

true enough ;) Though the 127 on 4x5 is a slightly wide angle so there is that option :D

I taught myself to use the highschool’s Speed Graphic using a similar manual. Still remember the FATSO exposure sequence: Filmslide..Aperture..Time..(2nd) Shutter Open.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:04:25pm

re: #34 Dread Pirate Ron

So, what…gutfeld is gonna PEW PEW PEW the tiny little coronas? What the hell does that even mean?

Morons.

40
William Lewis  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:12:14pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

I taught myself to use the highschool’s Speed Graphic using a similar manual. Still remember the FATSO exposure sequence: Filmslide..Aperture..Time..(2nd) Shutter Open.

I knew a newspaper photographer who, when given his first digital, liked to reminisce about being taught by an old timer who would go to events with 2 film holders. He’d only take that many in case something happened on the way back…

41
makeitstop  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:14:35pm

re: #24 austin_blue

As you all know, She Who Must Be Obeyed is a harper who can basically play anything you put in front of her. Folk, Western Swing, Celtic, Rock, Mahler, Bartok, Iranian, North African, Andean, Mexican, Brazilian, Raga, she can and has played it all, and still does.

She thinks Joanna is a fascinating musician.

Joanna is a classically trained harpist and her harping is spot-on.

Her vocals, on the other hand, are… adventurist. SWMBO isn’t sure if she is just not completely in control of her voice or if she is doing exactly what she is meaning to do.

I don’t want to jump in to that discussion, I just find her music fascinating.

Her voice has matured since the first couple of albums. I remember seeing her do ‘The Book of Right On’ on Jools Holland’s show and thinking she sounded like a little girl, but it may have been an affectation.

Her control in I guess what you might call the ‘chorus’ in the video Charles posted - This part:

Sang: Do you love me?
Will you remember?
The snow falls above me
The renderer renders:
The event is in the hand of God

is seriously on point. She’s singing some pretty difficult intervals there.

42
Crush White Nationalism  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:14:57pm

They did it because they’re trash who think betraying their nation is a party.

A North Carolina woman who brought her 14-year-old son into the U.S. Capitol during last year’s riot was sentenced Friday to three months imprisonment.

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly said she finds it “very hard to comprehend” why Virginia Marie Spencer and her husband took their child into the building during a violent insurrection. Spencer’s husband, Christopher Raphael Spencer, also was arrested. He has pleaded not guilty to riot-related charges.

Mom who took her child into Capitol during riot gets prison (AP)

43
Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:15:07pm

re: #40 William Lewis

I knew a newspaper photographer who, when given his first digital, liked to reminisce about being taught by an old timer who would go to events with 2 film holders. He’d only take that many in case something happened on the way back…

In the late 50’s there was still resistance to the use of 35mm in photojournalism. Photo magazine discussions included phrases like “trigger-happy beatniks”.

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austin_blue  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:18:55pm

re: #41 makeitstop

Her voice has matured since the first couple of albums. I remember seeing her do ‘The Book of Right On’ on Jools Holland’s show and thinking she sounded like a little girl, but it may have been an affectation.

Her control in I guess what you might call the ‘chorus’ in the video Charles posted - This part:

Sang: Do you love me?
Will you remember?
The snow falls above me
The renderer renders:
The event is in the hand of God

is seriously on point. She’s singing some pretty difficult intervals there.

Agreed, but I just can’t decide if it is purposeful, affectation, or accidental. She’s kind of like a combo of Kate and Sinead.

45
austin_blue  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:20:08pm

And I had a hard day, so I’m off for the rack.

Sleep well, be kind to each other.

46
No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:23:17pm

Read this thread. The good news down at the end is that full vaccination does help mitigate long Covid. Nevertheless, you don’t want to get a “mild” case of Covid.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:23:23pm

re: #44 austin_blue

Agreed, but I just can’t decide if it is purposeful, affectation, or accidental. She’s kind of like a combo of Kate and Sinead.

At first I didn’t realize the singer was the writer. The words deserve better. (Like Lauren Bacall reciting them.)

48
Captain Ron  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:25:26pm

re: #46 No Malarkey!

This virus is like measles and polio: a virus with long-term impact.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:30:00pm

This website has all her lyrics. Interesting that the second commenter compares her to Auden.
joannanewsomlyrics.com

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:32:31pm

Just used the experimental approach to determine the refrigerator-life of commercial eggnog.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:34:33pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Just used the experimental approach to determine the refrigerator-life of commercial eggnog.

😬😬😬😬😬

52
Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:47:03pm

For us old farts, “The Tender Bar” is nostalgically worth your time. On Prime.

53
Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:49:12pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Just used the experimental approach to determine the refrigerator-life of commercial eggnog.

What were the results or do I have to wait for peer-review?

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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:54:59pm

More on the Canadian party plane. bbc.com

55
Captain Magic  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:55:03pm

WOAI: Family donates old recliner to thrift store, along with their beloved ginger cat
DENVER (WOAI) — Have you ever donated something to a thrift store, then immediately regretted it?

Family donates old recliner to thrift store, along with their beloved ginger cat (Courtesy: Denver Animal Shelter)

A family in Denver donated an old recliner to a thrift store when they were moving, not knowing their beloved cat Montequlla was hiding inside. Imagine the surprise the workers who discovered the stowaway inside the piece of FUR-niture felt!

The thrift store immediately got in touch with Denver Animal Protection to come pick up the ginger cat and check for a microchip to try and find the owner. Sadly, the chip had not been updated.

Thankfully though, when Montequlla’s family realized she was missing, they immediately called the thrift store who put them in touch with the animal rescue organization. Montequlla was reunited with her family soon after.

We are glad this tail had a happy ending, and ‘curiosity did not kill the cat’

Family donates old recliner to thrift store, along with their beloved ginger cat (Courtesy: Denver Animal Shelter)

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 7:56:27pm

re: #53 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

What were the results or do I have to wait for peer-review?

Wife is away, so the stuff in the fridge must be turned over. We bought a half-gallon for our expected Christmas family thing. The dozen of us drank half of it. Wife left me a volume of her diet coconut milk, and I don’t know if using it to thin the nog was the problem, or if the sherry slug acted as a catalyzer, but the whole thing sort of gelled.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:01:35pm

We’re going to sit down and do our 2021 Xmas cards tomorrow.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:03:50pm

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

We’re going to sit down and do our 2021 Xmas cards tomorrow.

Try to get it done by midnight tonight, and you’ll be golden. Today is Christmas under the Julian calendar.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:11:15pm

TFG probably never held his own babies, nevermind somebody elses.

60
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:18:10pm
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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:21:42pm

Insulin’s deadly cost: Ultrahigh prices in the U.S. mean many diabetics can’t afford the medication they need to survive
fortune.com

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ckkatz  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:27:28pm

In an earlier thread I mentioned that the DC area was greeted for its first 2022 Monday morning commute with a snowstorm.

Although forecast using terms like ‘Apocalypse’, ‘Oncoming Armageddon’, and more simply “Run! Flee for your lives!”, I received what could be generously described as 2” of snow. Okay… _extremely_ generously.

Thursday evening we were to receive our second snow of the year. It was forecast as 2-8 inches. As per the usual course of these things, about 1” fell.

However, it is the local tradition, perhaps even enshrined somewhere in state law, that upon prediction of snowfall, all residents must congregate in the local grocery stores and recite the ‘snow mantra’. Which goes “Bread, Milk, Toilet Paper”.

I chose opening time Thursday morning for this activity. (And mostly because it was time for my biweekly grocery store visit anyway.)

It was interesting. The prepared salad section was mostly empty. As were small areas within the produce, dairy and meats sections. And all the store brand sliced bread was also out.

There may also have been other smaller spot shortages. But in those cases, there were alternative brands and sizes available. I did not check the ‘chips’ section. But do remember that the pita chip end cap display was full.

Talking with staff, it appears that a lot of trucks were delayed by the Monday storm and the holidays. Other trucks have been arriving less than normally full. And that there have been a lot of staff shortages due to illness.

So I suspect that the same causes have been playing out elsewhere. The holidays caused some shortages. The storms along the East Coast have caused additional shortages. And staffing shortages due to covid and flu, throughout the supply chains have had their affect as well.

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ckkatz  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:32:09pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Just used the experimental approach to determine the refrigerator-life of commercial eggnog.

Like you, we used to call those, along with liquids left in office coffee mugs over the weekend, as “Science Experiments”.

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ckkatz  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:34:19pm

And… another comment on the Cruz interview:

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:37:51pm

re: #64 ckkatz

That’s exactly how I feel about it.

“I don’t want to yuck somebody else’s yum, but I don’t need to watch it.”

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BeachDem  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:40:32pm

re: #64 ckkatz

And… another comment on the Cruz interview:

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And in the brilliant snark of Alexandra Petri…

Have you ever watched a wind sock deflate until it is just a sad polyester shell crumpled on the pavement? Have you ever left some soft cheese near a hot stove and come back to find a demoralized puddle in its place? Have you ever failed to properly care for a houseplant so that not only do you watch it die, but you spend several weeks witnessing it wither, crumple and lose all dignity?

Relatedly, did you see Ted Cruz on with Tucker Carlson on Thursday night?

Here is what I will say about that interview: Personally, just personally, if I were having exploratory surgery to make certain that no hint of a spine remained in any nook of my body I might have overlooked, I would not do it on national television…

washingtonpost.com

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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:44:26pm

I just found out, because I checked, that the CDC did approve the 12-15 year old boosters this week, which I somehow didn’t see a report of before. So I’ve scheduled my boy to get his booster tomorrow, and my entire household will be boosted.

68
Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:45:43pm

This shit just keeps getting deeper and deeper:

James Crumbley was employed transiently by Door Dash, Jennifer Crumbley had been fired from her job, and they had put their home up for sale after falling $11,000 behind on payments, according to prosecutors.

After the shooting, prosecutors said the Crumbleys “started making plans to sell their horses, line up a hotel, bought four cell phones, drained their son’s bank account, withdrew money from their own accounts, and went on the lam rather than turn themselves in to the authorities,” Law & Crime reports.

“In total, the couple had ‘more than a dozen credit cards and gift cards’ and $6,600 in cash,” according to the site. “The couple tried to destroy one of the four phones before they were taken into custody.”

The Crumbley’s withdrew $3,000 from their son’s account, leaving only 99 cents in it, according to the Detroit News. While the Crumbleys have private attorneys, their son is represented by a public defender.

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Captain Magic  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:46:08pm

WaPo: Opinion: The ongoing mortification of Ted Cruz

Relatedly, did you see Ted Cruz on with Tucker Carlson on Thursday night?

Here is what I will say about that interview: Personally, just personally, if I were having exploratory surgery to make certain that no hint of a spine remained in any nook of my body I might have overlooked, I would not do it on national television. If I were plucking my voice out and giving it to Tucker Carlson to add to yet another of his magic seashells in the hopes that, in exchange, he would give me legs for 2024 — I would do that somewhere where the cameras were not rolling. I know that Ted Cruz has always loved soup, gelatinous, oozing, always taking the shape of its container. However, I did not want to watch him become soup. Some processes ought to be private.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:52:47pm

Every time you think they can’t go lower…

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:56:25pm

So lucky I can’t wish them into the cornfield, because without a doubt I would.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:57:12pm

This may be hard to take

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:57:19pm
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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:57:59pm

re: #72 Dave In Austin

MAGAs are already buying up all they can get.

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 8:59:56pm

re: #59 No Malarkey!

TFG probably never held his own babies, nevermind somebody elses.

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And that is why his anger yesterday was also real.

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Captain Ron  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:00:49pm

re: #72 Dave In Austin

This may be hard to take

Viagra + Covid-19 = Blood clots in your dick.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:04:23pm

re: #76 Dread Pirate Ron

Viagra + Covid-19 = Blood clots in your dick.

Imagine the anger when the antivaxxers who thought the vaccine would make them infertile or impotent find out that their Covid infection did.

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:05:40pm

re: #77 No Malarkey!

Imagine the anger when the antivaxxers who thought the vaccine would make them infertile or impotent find out that their Covid infection did.

The start of the Handmaid’s Tale.

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Captain Magic  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:14:38pm

LOUISVILLE, Colo. — Offering hugs and humor, President Joe Biden comforted Coloradans grappling with rebuilding homes and businesses that were destroyed last week by a rare wind-whipped winter fire that burned through a pair of heavily populated suburbs between Denver and Boulder.

One victim was identified Friday and one person remained unaccounted for out of some 35,000 forced from their homes.

Biden, and his wife, Jill, arrived in the Harper Lake neighborhood of Louisville on Friday afternoon to survey the damage, passing the burned remnants of homes next to damaged structures still standing. They walked along a street where homes burned to their concrete foundations, meeting residents and local officials who have been overseeing the response and recovery operation.

Speaking at a recreation center in Louisville, Biden praised the “incredible courage” of the people affected by the fire and pledged the full support of the federal government to help rebuild.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:15:15pm

re: #72 Dave In Austin

This may be hard to take

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Apparently a single case of a patient waking from a coma after a medical mix-up is enough to pursue Viagra as a potential “cure,” meanwhile the millions who’ve avoided getting sick in the first place thanks to the vaccines mean nothing because “I did my own research.”

FFS

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stpaulbear  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:16:03pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I kinda like it when Anderson lets his inner bitch run free like that. If only the rest of CNN followed suit.

They do, but they bitch about Biden.

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:23:21pm
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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:23:58pm

re: #82 Belafon

Reload

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plansbandc  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:24:04pm
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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:28:18pm
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sagehen  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:37:11pm

re: #85 Belafon

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which wasn’t such a problem until the Child Tax Credit ended.

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:46:32pm

re: #72 Dave In Austin

This may be hard to take

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stpaulbear  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:47:04pm

re: #85 Belafon

I watched a Morning Joe clip from a couple days ago where the entire crew was just frothing at the mouth about getting kids back in the classroom. The new mayor of NYC was on talking about “my kids” needing to be saved from the harm of staying at home, and another guest actually said that more kids die in cars. It was horrifying, but they had gotten their talking point that the economy needed kids and teachers and staff to be in the petri dish.

Are We Harming Kids To Protect Adults Who Won’t Protect Themselves?

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:47:08pm
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jaunte  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:49:35pm
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Egregious Philbin  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:54:01pm

re: #33 Cheechako

No offense, but you chose to live there.

In 6 months, I’ll be whining about it being 118 degrees here. Stay warm.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:55:20pm

re: #90 jaunte

OmicRon Desantis can’t really be that dumb. He can’t… this is like forgetting how to breathe stupid.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:57:30pm

re: #90 jaunte

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He’s right, we did the truly American thing…of sacrificing our health so our boss could afford a second yacht!

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Captain Ron  Jan 7, 2022 • 9:59:23pm

My daughter gave me a jacket for Christmas and I noticed something odd in the dark room. The seam tape they used on the inside edge of the material is reflective. Not much use on the inside of the jacket. I assume it was a mistake or they used what they had available to meet production

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:12:21pm

re: #90 jaunte

What he said about his wife’s cancer diagnosis:

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:15:06pm

I suppose it shouldn’t come as a surprise that we as a nation have successfully made the transition back to treating essential workers not as “heroes” but as “ungrateful fucks who don’t realize how good they got it.”

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:16:50pm

re: #95 Belafon

Reload. I hadn’t copied the right link.

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Captain Ron  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:19:25pm

re: #97 Belafon

Reload. I hadn’t copied the right link.

That makes sense now.

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:28:49pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate Ron

That makes sense now.

You try to copy the link, you hit the word copy, and you still have the old link.

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Captain Ron  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:34:31pm

re: #99 Belafon

You try to copy the link, you hit the word copy, and you still have the old link.

Been there, done that a thousand times myself.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:37:42pm

re: #95 Belafon

What he said about his wife’s cancer diagnosis:

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Amazing. Is he really trying to discourage COVID testing, by claiming that it’s unusual to test for ailments if you’re asymptomatic? He’s clearly not pleased with the latest statistics from Florida. Wonder if anyone here suspects what DeathSantis is doing to suppress reported deaths. For awhile Florida was #9 among deaths per million but now it’s dropped to #16.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2022 • 10:54:18pm

re: #101 Hecuba’s daughter

Amazing. Is he really trying to discourage COVID testing, by claiming that it’s unusual to test for ailments if you’re asymptomatic? He’s clearly not pleased with the latest statistics from Florida. Wonder if anyone here suspects what DeathSantis is doing to suppress reported deaths. For awhile Florida was #9 among deaths per million but now it’s dropped to #16.

He’s carrying forward the thinking that we heard as early as summer 2020: “If they stopped testing so many people, then new cases of COVID would go down.” The thought being that if the only numbers reported were of those who are symptomatic, then the overall stats would look better and people would feel more comfortable believing the pandemic to be “over.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 7, 2022 • 11:06:55pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

He’s carrying forward the thinking that we heard as early as summer 2020: “If they stopped testing so many people, then new cases of COVID would go down.” The thought being that if the only numbers reported were of those who are symptomatic, then the overall stats would look better and people would feel more comfortable believing the pandemic to be “over.”

But that still doesn’t explain the decline in new deaths in Florida. Unless it is really the better weather there that keeps residents and visitors outdoors during the winter so they are not as affected by the disease as those of us in harsher climates.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 7, 2022 • 11:11:01pm

Didn’t I read earlier in the pandemic that impotence — of a kind not treatable with viagra — was one of the long-term aftereffects of covid for many people? That was a while back, but it makes viagra as a treatment even more amusing. (As a side benefit, misuse of viagra might leave them unable to reproduce, which could only improve the gene pool.)

And on that note, goof night.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 7, 2022 • 11:13:21pm

re: #103 Hecuba’s daughter

But that still doesn’t explain the decline in new deaths in Florida. Unless it is really the better weather there that keeps residents and visitors outdoors during the winter so they are not as affected by the disease as those of us in harsher climates.

I don’t trust Florida’s numbers, and expect we’ll find that all the covid deaths were misreported as heart failure or something. Wait until we have mortality from all causes before we decide what’s happening there.

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Targetpractice  Jan 7, 2022 • 11:18:59pm

re: #103 Hecuba’s daughter

But that still doesn’t explain the decline in new deaths in Florida. Unless it is really the better weather there that keeps residents and visitors outdoors during the winter so they are not as affected by the disease as those of us in harsher climates.

“Cause of death: viral pneumonia.”

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Captain Ron  Jan 7, 2022 • 11:22:42pm

The secondary infection killed him, not Covid!

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 7, 2022 • 11:25:35pm

re: #103 Hecuba’s daughter

But that still doesn’t explain the decline in new deaths in Florida. Unless it is really the better weather there that keeps residents and visitors outdoors during the winter so they are not as affected by the disease as those of us in harsher climates.

There could be something to that; here in Czech Republic, cases declined to background noise during the spring and summer months, and rocket back up once the cold weather sets in. People are outdoors far more often during spring and summer. For instance, around mid-March is when the pubs, cafes and restaurants here start setting up their outdoor tables.

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Captain Ron  Jan 7, 2022 • 11:54:05pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 8, 2022 • 12:04:02am

What the GQP wants so desperately is to “win” the pandemic in a way that denies Biden any measure of claim to said “win.” Which means without vaccines or any mitigation efforts whatsoever, but instead focusing on treating the symptoms and getting people to a point where they treat COVID as something that “just happens” and you “get over it.”

People in your office have tested positive for COVID but you don’t feel sick? Don’t bother getting tested unless you feel sick, because your boss can’t afford to have you in isolation when there’s work to be done.

Feeling “mild” symptoms but not sick enough to be in the ER? Go get a pill or an IV of monoclonal antibodies, then get your ass back to the office because those quarterly reports aren’t going to write themselves.

In the hospital because you can’t breath and you’re hacking up a lung? Should have taken better care of yourself, now Steve is gonna have to pull overtime until you can get back to the office. I hope you realize how selfish your behavior looks to your coworkers.

You die? It happens, nothing to get upset about, just don’t let anybody in the office learn that it was COVID.

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Captain Ron  Jan 8, 2022 • 12:08:23am
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Captain Ron  Jan 8, 2022 • 12:22:51am

re: #90 jaunte

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ckkatz  Jan 8, 2022 • 12:37:19am

Way out of my league, but might be of interest to those who are looking for what makes a ‘good’ office chair:

The review “The Best Office Chair”:
nytimes.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 12:50:10am

re: #4 No Malarkey!

CNN is Fox News Lite

I still recall seeing CNN in 2015. Trump was talking about how exciting his rallies were and how people were falling asleep at Jeb! Bush rallies.

Within 20 minutes, CNN was airing an interview with a woman who fell asleep at a Jeb! rally.

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ckkatz  Jan 8, 2022 • 12:52:08am

1999 Eurohit by Swedish/Greek duo.
(Cover of Eleftheria Arvanitaki’s original song)

Youtube Video

“Possible, Possible,
Everything Impossible Becomes Possible”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 12:58:01am

re: #89 Belafon

Having not gotten covid yet feels like I’ve been hiding in the back of a 2+ year long middle school dodgeball game and the front lines have been THINNED

yeah, I felt a great deal of relief when I finally got fully vaxxed last year, but now I am getting rather jittery again…it is really wearing on my psyche

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 1:00:20am

re: #96 Targetpractice

I suppose it shouldn’t come as a surprise that we as a nation have successfully made the transition back to treating essential workers not as “heroes” but as “ungrateful fucks who don’t realize how good they got it.”

A person’s worth, like everything else, should be determined by their value on the Free Market…

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ckkatz  Jan 8, 2022 • 1:01:42am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The credulous way CNN, ABC, CBS handled tfg’s campaign was the reason I decided to not waste anymore of my time watching them. It’s been over 5 years now that I have pretty much held to that decision.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 1:04:05am

re: #118 ckkatz

The credulous way CNN, ABC, CBS handled tfg’s campaign was the reason I decided to not waste anymore of my time watching them. It’s been over 5 years now that I have pretty much held to that decision.

I was only watching CNN at the time because my family had it tuned in. I gave up on on CNN after their frivolous 24/7 coverage of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370…”Could it have been aliens?”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 8, 2022 • 1:22:25am

re: #84 plansbandc

Walking on ice not as easy as it seems.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 8, 2022 • 1:24:50am

re: #101 Hecuba’s daughter

Amazing. Is he really trying to discourage COVID testing, by claiming that it’s unusual to test for ailments if you’re asymptomatic? He’s clearly not pleased with the latest statistics from Florida. Wonder if anyone here suspects what DeathSantis is doing to suppress reported deaths. For awhile Florida was #9 among deaths per million but now it’s dropped to #16.

Why do I suspect that he doesn’t do coloscopy since the prep would leave him a completely empty shell?

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ericblair  Jan 8, 2022 • 1:29:48am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A person’s worth, like everything else, should be determined by their value on the Free Market…

Nope. The last few months, the Free Market determined that to hire someone to flip burgers cost upwards of $20 per hour, and the Captains of Industry flipped their shit and tried to get the states to kill unemployment insurance and force people to work. This is about hierarchy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 1:29:54am

re: #101 Hecuba’s daughter

Amazing. Is he really trying to discourage COVID testing, by claiming that it’s unusual to test for ailments if you’re asymptomatic? He’s clearly not pleased with the latest statistics from Florida. Wonder if anyone here suspects what DeathSantis is doing to suppress reported deaths. For awhile Florida was #9 among deaths per million but now it’s dropped to #16.

Testing is also being painted as something Invasive and Deep State and another Government attempt to Control Your Life.

But in the end, he is simply following the lead of Der Fat and Führious: “The only reason we have so many cases is because we test so much!”

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ericblair  Jan 8, 2022 • 1:36:21am
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Targetpractice  Jan 8, 2022 • 1:43:27am

re: #122 ericblair

Nope. The last few months, the Free Market determined that to hire someone to flip burgers cost upwards of $20 per hour, and the Captains of Industry flipped their shit and tried to get the states to kill unemployment insurance and force people to work. This is about hierarchy.

This is driving a lot of things that we’re seeing in the jobs market right now besides just wages. Like the increasingly desperate push by middle management to get workers back in the office so they can justify their jobs as gatekeepers between the people who actually work and the people who pay them to do so.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 1:51:57am

re: #125 Targetpractice

This is driving a lot of things that we’re seeing in the jobs market right now besides just wages. Like the increasingly desperate push by middle management to get workers back in the office so they can justify their jobs as gatekeepers between the people who actually work and the people who pay them to do so.

and our attitude that unemployment insurance (which workers pay for out of their salaries) is somehow a form of government Free Ride that encourages laziness

and yes, we are beginning to see which jobs are truly vital and which jobs are superfluous

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Amory Blaine  Jan 8, 2022 • 2:05:27am

re: #113 ckkatz

I got a 1200 Herman Miller chair for 500 at an office reseller, was like brand new, may be an option. I don’t really like the chair so it’s for guests. I’ve been sitting in an ergohuman for years and you’ll have to pry it from my cold dead ass! A proper office chair makes all the difference. At work, I sit in a chair made for 911 call centers as it is sat in 24 hours a day. It’s about 8 years old and they tried replacing it. And I told them to pound sand as it’s the best chair I’ve sat in aside from my own and who knows what they’ll give us.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2022 • 2:37:39am

re: #127 Amory Blaine

I got an extra large Herman Miller chair on eBay for $300 a good 10 years ago. I wouldn’t trade that for anything. I like to sit cross-legged, used to be called Indian style, and I can sit like that in this chair for hours, or sit with my legs propped up on an ottoman I have under my desk or however I’m comfortable. That chair was the best investment. Honestly, if it dies I’d pay full retail for another one.

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Targetpractice  Jan 8, 2022 • 2:39:44am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and our attitude that unemployment insurance (which workers pay for out of their salaries) is somehow a form of government Free Ride that encourages laziness

and yes, we are beginning to see which jobs are truly vital and which jobs are superfluous

It’s also showing that pre-COVID business practices are no longer workable, such as running “lean” by keeping staffing levels at the bare minimum and even working understaffed to maximum profits while minimizing “costs.” Others were comfortable with high turnover rates because they regularly received so many applications from people desperate to find any job that they could pick and choose who to keep. Both practices are now biting them in the ass hard, whether it’s finding it impossible to fill out their staff as business has picked up or shitty businesses that relied upon constant turnover now struggling to keep anybody who they can find.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 2:41:38am

We have long suspected that COVID deaths are greatly under-reported around the world.

COVID mortality in India: National survey data and health facility deaths

India’s national COVID death totals remain undetermined. Using an independent nationally representative survey of 0.14 million (M) adults, we compared COVID mortality during the 2020 and 2021 viral waves to expected all-cause mortality. COVID constituted 29% (95%CI 28-31%) of deaths from June 2020-July 2021, corresponding to 3.2M (3.1-3.4) deaths, of which 2.7M (2.6-2.9) occurred in April-July 2021 (when COVID doubled all-cause mortality). A sub-survey of 57,000 adults showed similar temporal increases in mortality with COVID and non-COVID deaths peaking similarly. Two government data sources found that, when compared to pre-pandemic periods, all-cause mortality was 27% (23-32%) higher in 0.2M health facilities and 26% (21-31%) higher in civil registration deaths in ten states; both increases occurred mostly in 2021. The analyses find that India’s cumulative COVID deaths by September 2021 were 6-7 times higher than reported officially.

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Targetpractice  Jan 8, 2022 • 2:43:35am

re: #130 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We have long suspected that COVID deaths are greatly under-reported around the world.

COVID mortality in India: National survey data and health facility deaths

I remember remarking way back in the day that we’ll never know the true death toll of COVID. Why? Because the governments of the world all have a vested interest in lying about the truth, whether its for national pride, to avoid looking “weak” to others, or because of internal politics.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2022 • 2:44:22am

re: #130 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We have long suspected that COVID deaths are greatly under-reported around the world.

COVID mortality in India: National survey data and health facility deaths

In 10 years the historians will arrive at consensus on the CV-19 death rate. In 30 years revisionist historians will achieve a new consensus.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 2:50:17am

re: #129 Targetpractice

It’s also showing that pre-COVID business practices are no longer workable

Because, despite all the ideology touting the “dignity of labor” and the social value of hard work, etc., our system still treats workers as just another disposable commodity like staplers or toner cartridges.

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sagehen  Jan 8, 2022 • 2:51:15am

re: #129 Targetpractice

It’s also showing that pre-COVID business practices are no longer workable, such as running “lean” by keeping staffing levels at the bare minimum and even working understaffed to maximum profits while minimizing “costs.” Others were comfortable with high turnover rates because they regularly received so many applications from people desperate to find any job that they could pick and choose who to keep. Both practices are now biting them in the ass hard, whether it’s finding it impossible to fill out their staff as business has picked up or shitty businesses that relied upon constant turnover now struggling to keep anybody who they can find.

we’re finally being forced to acknowledge that

1) the work that relies on academic skills (typically better paid) can easily be done from home — if you’ve got good wifi and a phone, no need to ever be present in person; and

2) the work that relies on physical skills (typically low-paid) can ONLY be done in person. And if that work has anything to do with food — growing, harvesting, processing, transporting, putting it on the trucks, taking it off the trucks, preparing it in a kitchen, delivering it — the entire world comes to a screechng halt if there’s nobody to do it. They’re the very definition of “essential”. All those people sitting at their desks earning a good living, can’t function without the minimum wage FOOD people. Who, the godawful nerve of them, have realized they’re also entitled to earn enough to pay their rent and feed their kids.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2022 • 2:55:23am

re: #134 sagehen

we’re finally being forced to acknowledge that

1) the work that relies on academic skills (typically better paid) can easily be done from home — if you’ve got good wifi and a phone, no need to ever be present in person; and

2) the work that relies on physical skills (typically low-paid) can ONLY be done in person. And if that work has anything to do with food — growing, harvesting, processing, transporting, putting it on the trucks, taking it off the trucks, preparing it in a kitchen, delivering it — the entire world comes to a screechng halt if there’s nobody to do it. They’re very definition of “essential”. All those people sitting at their desks earning a good living, can’t function without the minimum wage FOOD people. Who, the godawful nerve of them, have realized they’re also entitled to earn enough to pay their rent and feed their kids.

It would be a good thing if Bernie gracefully ended his career as Secretary of Labor in a second Biden/Harris administration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:00:03am

re: #134 sagehen

we’re finally being forced to acknowledge that

1) the work that relies on academic skills (typically better paid) can easily be done from home — if you’ve got good wifi and a phone, no need to ever be present in person; and

and the middle managers whose selling point is their “people skills” find their roles severely diminished in such a working arrangement

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:02:28am

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Youtube Video


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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:02:43am

re: #134 sagehen

All those people sitting at their desks earning a good living, can’t function without the minimum wage FOOD people. Who, the godawful nerve of them, have realized they’re also entitled to earn enough to pay their rent and feed their kids.

And despite all the lip service that Conservatives play to the “American Dream”, the working poor - and even the middle classes - are finding it increasingly difficult to offer their children a chance at better life than what they have.

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sagehen  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:05:05am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the middle managers whose selling point is their “people skills” find their roles severely diminished in such a working arrangement

Just think how much less traffic there’d be, and how much less parking would be needed, and how much less office space, if we recognize how outdated is the concept of “everybody come sit in the same big room with their computers and phones doing something they could do from home.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:11:57am

re: #139 sagehen

Just think how much less traffic there’d be, and how much less parking would be needed, and how much less office space, if we recognize how outdated is the concept of “everybody come sit in the same big room with their computers and phones doing something they could do from home.”

Not to mention that people would not be compelled to live in or near major population centers as long as they had fast and reliable Internet.

We are stuck on a 19th-century model of productivity based on measuring how many times you pull your lever at your factory workstation during a shift.

Modern managers see their jobs in minimizing the amount of time workers spend on the Internet, gossiping or drinking coffee.

Modern productivity is not measured in how quickly or how many times we repeat a task but in how efficiently we use our time and energy. That is hard to quantify for a quarterly or annual report of the type that modern managers have to submit in order to justify their next bonus.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:19:06am

re: #134 sagehen

All those people sitting at their desks earning a good living, can’t function without the minimum wage FOOD people.

Well, and I guess I’m in a minority here, I believe our lives will be better when we don’t fall into the fast food paradigm, an idea foisted upon the American public after WWII to encourage automobile ownership and the idea that a meal is something you eat in a car.

As I wrote yesterday, I was at the local shopping mall (a place I’ve avoided all during the pandemic save twice). Walking through the food courts there were few customers. The food vendors were much understaffed, some of the vendors only having one body working (or just standing around.)

I was a bit hungry and in days long gone past may have stopped to buy something. But now… no.

Over the past 10 years or so I’ve not eaten at a fast food place but a couple of times.

I had given up eating at fast food (or chain) restaurants probably 25 years ago.

In Japan (way back… 15 years ago) I bought food from stalls, as Japanese do. It’s a thing there.

In America we have long had street vendors in large cities, offering everything from hot dogs to tacos.

I think that was the genesis of the idea that national fast food chains were great, when corporatism decided that bringing that street-vendor convenience of big cities to suburbia and small town America was a way to cash in on people’s desires to be quick and fast and cheap.

My belief is that a worker is worth a decent wage.

This means “cheap” meals are really not a good thing. If a chef makes you a good meal that chef is worthy of a decent pay for that. If a server (note the root of that word: serve, as in servant) is waiting on you then that servant deserves a decent wage.

That all adds up to the realization that a meal ought not be cheap.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:22:34am

re: #141 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well, and I guess I’m in a minority here, I believe our lives will be better when we don’t fall into the fast food paradigm, an idea foisted upon the American public after WWII to encourage automobile ownership and the idea that a meal is something you eat in a car.

It is not just the fast food workers, it is the people who pick and process our food, the ones who deliver it and sell it to us. Those are all jobs that cannot be done remotely.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:24:55am

re: #141 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

(cleaned up my horrible sentences in that ramble)

More on the shopping mall visit: it was sad.

It was sad to see the down faces of vendors or their low-paid employees.

But I wonder how often the light-bulb goes on in the heads of the people running these outfits (and that includes the mall owners.)

American life must change. We are used to ideas that were sold to Americans in the middle of the 20th century.

But there are deep problems with that lifestyle. It is not sustainable.

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Targetpractice  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:28:36am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is not just the fast food workers, it is the people who pick and process our food, the ones who deliver it and sell it to us. Those are all jobs that cannot be done well remotely.

That’s the key word, that they have yet to find a way to automate these processes such that they can match every single nuance and spark of intuition that a human worker brings to the table. They could readily build machines to automate the process, but the result would end up being such a mess that they’d lose more money on damage or destroyed product than they would save removing workers from the line.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:28:53am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is not just the fast food workers, it is the people who pick and process our food, the ones who deliver it and sell it to us. Those are all jobs that cannot be done remotely.

It was several decades back, but farm workers here in California tried to make a big stink about this (remember Cesar Chavez?) I seem to remember (I could be wrong here, memory being what it is) that the white “middle class” was offended. This was back when California politics was still greatly controlled by the old Republicans (Reagan and others), and much of the Republican ability to get elected in California was doing the fear-the-brown-people thing, but with more panache than say found in Alabama or Tennessee.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:29:00am

re: #141 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Servus, servi (m): slave.

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ericblair  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:32:07am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because, despite all the ideology touting the “dignity of labor” and the social value of hard work, etc., our system still treats workers as just another disposable commodity like staplers or toner cartridges.

Our betters don’t demand that staplers or toner cartridges know their place. That’s the difference.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:36:51am

re: #144 Targetpractice

That’s the key word, that they have yet to find a way to automate these processes such that they can match every single nuance and spark of intuition that a human worker brings to the table. They could readily build machines to automate the process, but the result would end up being such a mess that they’d lose more money on damage or destroyed product than they would save removing workers from the line.

Horn and Hardart c.1900

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Targetpractice  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:40:43am

Just wanna take a sec to remark that the guy on the farm may be knee-deep in shit or the guy at the McDs occasionally having to clean some up in the bathroom, but those of us in the hotel industry are dealing with it on an almost daily basis:

It used to be that the horror stories were limited to whenever a particular vile guest checked out after being locked up in their room for weeks or months at a stretch. Now? Now we’re facing them almost every day, because we don’t have the staff to do more than clean up what rooms empty that day between 11am and 3pm.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:47:22am

re: #148 Decatur Deb

When I was in college I lived in a very large dorm.

There was of course a dining hall. The cafeteria made enough food to feed a thousand.

Being cafeteria food it was often, at best, edible.

Still, when making say 100 bain-marie of lasagna the amount of effort needed is not the same as making 1000 servings of lasagna in one’s own kitchen. A professional kitchen can turn out that volume.

So, this gets me back to the sad food court at the local mall.

I get that a campus full of retail outlets will want, need, to feed the employees daily.

Personally I think said mall should dump the food court and just open a cafeteria where the store workers can get subsidized meals. Regular shoppers could eat there too at sticker price.

Now you might think that a mall food court really is a cafeteria, but the vendors suffer because they can’t use the economy of scale. Each little vendor has their own kitchen, their own bored front workers, etc.

Back in the day, this is really back, the big department stores had cafeterias. I lived in a town that was not really big, but I do remember that the department stores had something similar.

When Kresge turned into K-mart and built their huge single-story stores, K-mart decided to keep that tradition and put in a cafeteria. Food was bad (if my memory is serving me rightly.) It was a downscaled version of the original idea (of large department stores having cafeterias.)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:51:23am

Japanese department stores still have food service in their basements.

They are fabulous.

I visited them often.

I gained weight.

But the Japanese live much, much more densely than Americans (anywhere outside of Manhattan.)

And the department stores in Japan ofter serve as endpoints of the train lines, and the stores are often owned by the railroad companies.

It’s all very synergistic, and far more efficient than how we live in the US.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:54:41am

re: #150 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

When I was in college I lived in a very large dorm.

There was of course a dining hall. The cafeteria made enough food to feed a thousand.

Being cafeteria food it was often, at best, edible.

Still, when making say 100 bain-marie of lasagna the amount of effort needed is not the same as making 1000 servings of lasagna in one’s own kitchen. A professional kitchen can turn out that volume.

So, this gets me back to the sad food court at the local mall.

I get that a campus full of retail outlets will want, need, to feed the employees daily.

Personally I think said mall should dump the food court and just open a cafeteria where the store workers can get subsidized meals. Regular shoppers could eat there too at sticker price.

Now you might think that a mall food court really is a cafeteria, but the vendors suffer because they can’t use the economy of scale. Each little vendor has their own kitchen, their own bored front workers, etc.

Back in the day, this is really back, the big department stores had cafeterias. I lived in a town that was not really big, but I do remember that the department stores had something similar.

When Kresge turned into K-mart and built their huge single-story stores, K-mart decided to keep that tradition and put in a cafeteria. Food was bad (if my memory is serving me rightly.) It was a downscaled version of the original idea (of large department stores having cafeterias.)

It was a great treat to eat at the Kauffman store in Pitttsburgh. You could sit on the mezzanine and scan Boardman Robinson’s great murals, then ride down in an elevator designed by Frank Lloyd Wright.

Later, I survived on the food at the automat across from Grand Central Station, the art deco eatery near the shrine of art deco—the Chrysler Building.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:57:08am

re: #151 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of the catering firms in Philadelphia also ran what was effectively a cafeteria in the ground floor of an office building in Center City. Hot food line. Sandwich line. Soups, etc. and then a large seating area. (Plus outdoor seating in nice weather.)

Which I suspect could only work in an urban center. Though I have seen small scale cafeteria/soup and sandwich places survive in office parks since there is enough walk-in business for them to get by.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 8, 2022 • 3:59:52am

re: #68 Targetpractice

This shit just keeps getting deeper and deeper:

I wouldn’t sweat the fact that James and Jennifer Crumbley have their own private attorneys. When they are found guilty, the State will pay the cost for their lawyers, so there is that.

When a court decides someone is “indigent” - with few assets and no funds to pay an attorney - generally either a private lawyer will be appointed by the court and paid with county funds, or a public defender program will be appointed to represent the person.

americanbar.org

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:06:21am

Here’s another sad thing about the mall food court: the individual vendors look to be mostly franchises.

Food franchises are an example of American corporatism’s skill at bending American’s expectations.

The corporation seems to always benefit, but the local franchisee is the one working for pennies.

But deeply trained are Americans into their religions, and “the mall” and “[insert your favorite food franchise here] fast food outlet” have been ingrained into the American psyche (through the dark arts of advertising) for over 60 years now.

Giving up on these things is proving to be hard, even when they are clearly failing.

I used to link here the youtube videos from the “Dead Mall” series. The maker of those videos did a decent job but he never seemed to really understand what was going on.

Dead malls are dead because malls (for the most part) are not a sustainable model for life.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:08:38am

re: #147 ericblair

Our betters don’t demand that staplers or toner cartridges know their place. That’s the difference.

staplers and toner cartridges can simply be tossed out when they are no longer needed and they do not grumble or complain

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:10:41am

re: #150 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We had a K-mart in Czech Republic, at least for a bit. It lasted from 1992 to 1996, only four years, and by the time I arrived in Prague, it was already a Tesco.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:14:26am

Lots of foods are better done en masse: any sort of slow-food like stew, chili, large casserole, etc., and there is nothing wrong with cooking and serving them that way, the cost is about the same unless you are being served at a restaurant.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:15:59am

Wal-Mart tried to gain a foothold in Germany in the 90’s, but between opening hours restrictions (8am - 10pm on weekdays in most places) and strong retail worker unions, they just could not replicate that sort of Walton Family Spirit that makes them so successful in the USofA.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:16:39am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

We had a K-mart in Czech Republic, at least for a bit. It lasted from 1992 to 1996, only four years, and by the time I arrived in Prague, it was already a Tesco.

K-Mart evolved out of Kresge’s five-and-dime, the great competitor to Woolworth’s. They were almost nose-to-nose on 5th Ave in Pittsburgh. Kresge kept its old name and model until well after the ’60s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:18:20am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

K-Mart evolved out of Kresge’s five-and-dime, the great competitor to Woolworth’s. They were almost nose-to-nose on 5th Ave in Pittsburgh. Kresge kept its old name and model until well after the ’60s.

I remember shopping at the Kresge’s on Broadway in Gary, Indiana in the 1960’s, back when downtown commerce was still a concept.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:21:38am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

K-Mart evolved out of Kresge’s five-and-dime, the great competitor to Woolworth’s. They were almost nose-to-nose on 5th Ave in Pittsburgh. Kresge kept its old name and model until well after the ’60s.

That’s how it goes - the rise and fall of business empires. Piggly Wiggly is now mostly confined to parts of the Southern and Midwestern US, yet once it was all the way in to California. Not to mention they pioneered the supermarket as we know it today.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:24:08am

re: #162 Dr Lizardo

That’s how it goes - the rise and fall of business empires. Piggly Wiggly is now mostly confined to parts of the Southern and Midwestern US, yet once it was all the way in to California. Not to mention they pioneered the supermarket as we know it today.

We didn’t encounter Piggy Wiggly until we moved South. In PA, the stores were A&P (Atlantic and Pacific Tea Co) and Kroger’s. Later Giant Eagle became dominant there.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:36:57am

re: #163 Decatur Deb

We didn’t encounter Piggy Wiggly until we moved South. In PA, the stores were A&P (Atlantic and Pacific Tea Co) and Kroger’s. Later Giant Eagle became dominant there.

When I lived in Pittsburgh it was mainly Giant Eagle. Shop ‘n Save* was the next most common and one could find an A&P or Kroger in a few places. I did my shopping in a locally owned supermarket whose generics were generally the same as Giant Eagle. However, they had a superior produce and butcher section.

It’s been interesting to watch Wegmans infiltrate into eastern PA since I was familiar with them from visiting my brother near Rochester, NY (their home area). Wegmans tended (in at least my eyes) innovate in certain areas and then you’d see the competitors adopt things they’d done.** I first noticed Wegmans appearing in central NJ and then they popped up in 2-3 locations outside Philadelphia. I pretty much prefer doing my shopping with them and Trader Joe’s as a secondary for more exotic items.

* - The local Shop n’ Save to where I lived was essentially an older store and pretty ratty. I rarely went in there.

** - I first saw a large “Mega-Weg” in Henrietta, NY in 1983. Entire aisle of bulk goods, etc. Then saw them bring in the hot food counters, seating, and specialty stuff like chinese food, hot soup, coffee bar, and one had its own chocolatier. And then I’d see Giant Eagles near Pittsburgh get larger and adopting the same additions.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:40:34am

LOL this looks like the Big Dumb Movie event of the year. Possibly, the decade….

Youtube Video

Years and years ago, I read this old woowoo notion that the moon was an abandoned space ship or space station, parked in orbit. Seems like Roland Emmerich probably read the same thing and just ran with that gloriously insane idea, giving us Moonfall.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 8, 2022 • 4:48:52am

I ran this job, but the price tag was $13.8 million dollars, I don’t know where they got under $10 million. Complete waste of money too.

Located beneath three active rail lines at Rotterdam Junction, N.Y., the 107-ft-long reinforced concrete pedestrian tunnel is among the last components to complete the 750-mile Empire State Trail. To keep the rail corridor fully operational during construction, the project team adapted the box-jacking method to pull the cast-on-site tunnel through the embankment. The innovative approach minimized the magnitude of rail embankment deformation by applying roughly equal and opposite forces to each side.

enr.com

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jeffreyw  Jan 8, 2022 • 5:02:44am

Picnicking Possum

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 5:12:03am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

LOL this looks like the Big Dumb Movie event of the year. Possibly, the decade….

Years and years ago, I read this old woowoo notion that the moon was an abandoned space ship or space station, parked in orbit. Seems like Roland Emmerich probably read the same thing and just ran with that gloriously insane idea, giving us Moonfall.

I see, it lands on earth in big melty chucks, killing millions and totally wrecking the world cheese market through over-supply…

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The Squire of Logos  Jan 8, 2022 • 5:22:17am

re: #54 No Malarkey!

More on the Canadian party plane. bbc.com

The trip organiser, identified as James William Awad, said in a statement on Thursday that Sunwing was being unreasonable over a “simple party”. “I will take a moment to sit down and rethink everything,″ he said on Twitter. “Especially how I can do things better next time.”

Let’s see… how about get vaccinated, wear a mask, practice social distancing, stop trying to be an infulencer and GROW THE FUCK UP!

I’ll get down off the soapbox now.

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sagehen  Jan 8, 2022 • 5:32:34am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

Years and years ago, I read this old woowoo notion that the moon was an abandoned space ship or space station, parked in orbit. Seems like Roland Emmerich probably read the same thing and just ran with that gloriously insane idea, giving us Moonfall.

wasn’t there a Doctor Who episode that the moon was a dragon egg (from a species that, obviously, takes a VERY long time before it’s ready to hatch… but then it did)

Or maybe it wasn’t Who, my memory could be conflating it with some other show.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 5:34:38am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

It looks like what you get when you cross a Marvel idea (Guardians of the Galaxy) with B-movie science fiction from a few years back. There was a movie (I forget the name, it was on Tubi) where the moon was being pulled out of orbit and the protagonists had to do this or that … it was all a mess.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 8, 2022 • 5:40:25am

Kitties hiding in plain sight. The first one is awesome, don’t waste your time with the rest.

dailymail.co.uk

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The Squire of Logos  Jan 8, 2022 • 5:48:21am

re: #170 sagehen

wasn’t there a Doctor Who episode that the moon was a dragon egg (from a species that, obviously, takes a VERY long time before it’s ready to hatch… but then it did)

Or maybe it wasn’t Who, my memory could be conflating it with some other show.

Kill the Moon. Seventh episode, eighth series. Not that I’m a Whovian or anything.

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darthstar  Jan 8, 2022 • 5:51:15am

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 8, 2022 • 5:56:36am

Anyone else starting to get the feeling that this all ends in an armed stand off between Trump militias and US military at Mar-a-lago?

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The Squire of Logos  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:00:20am

re: #175 Barefoot Grin

Anyone else starting to get the feeling that this all ends in an armed stand off between Trump militias and US military at Mar-a-lago?

If it does, it won’t be a standoff.

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:01:39am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The Electoral College was always intended to be a check AGAINST democracy. The number of founding fathers who thought America was full of rubes who knew nothing about government or education preferred Congress to directly elect the President.

Most other founding fathers wanted a direct public election by white male land-owners. The EC as most people knows is a cobbled-together mess that no one really wants. Polls consistently favor doing away with it but it sticks around like an uninvited party crasher.

Republicans think they have found the perfect hack against our EC democracy system by simply rigging the election process altogether by planning to place party hack electors into the EC via direct state legislative intervention. As a result the EC probably is here to stay during our lifetimes.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:01:59am

re: #176 The Squire of Logos

If it does, it won’t be a standoff.

Hope we learned something at Malheur.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:02:51am

re: #176 The Squire of Logos

If it does, it won’t be a standoff.

Not for long, anyway.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:03:42am

re: #179 Barefoot Grin

Not for long, anyway.

They’ll run out of Happy Meals eventually.

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darthstar  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:04:28am

re: #175 Barefoot Grin

Anyone else starting to get the feeling that this all ends in an armed stand off between Trump militias and US military at Mar-a-lago?

Trump would have his militias arrested for trespassing. He can’t stand being around riff-raff unless they’re giving him money.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:05:04am

My thoughts come from reading Marcy’s blog and Hugo’s reporting today. We know Trump is guilty as fuck, but the case has to be made carefully and forcefully in front of the American people. I don’t see Trump surrendering willingly. I think he’ll call out his forces “because they love me.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:06:06am

Unless we want to have a runoff election like in France, then I am for keeping the EC - but with two major reforms: first, the electors should represent the size of each state’s population and not its Congressional delegation, and second, it should only kick in if no candidate achieves a clear majority of the popular vote.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:06:32am

re: #181 darthstar

Trump would have his militias arrested for trespassing. He can’t stand being around riff-raff unless they’re giving him money.

Well, there’s that. Maybe the standoff will be at the River of Blood on Lowes Island.

en.wikipedia.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:08:48am

re: #182 Barefoot Grin

My thoughts come from reading Marcy’s blog and Hugo’s reporting today. We know Trump is guilty as fuck, but the case has to be made carefully and forcefully in front of the American people. I don’t see Trump surrendering willingly. I think he’ll call out his forces “because they love me.”

“I’ll be with you”.

I remember hearing him say that to the crowds live last Jan 6th.

Why has he not had this phrase hung around his neck? There are excuses like “Secret Service would never let him”, which means either he was lying or really stupid about it.

Or he knew exactly what he was doing, namely telling the crowd what he thought they needed to hear to get them to do his bidding.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:12:58am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I’ll be with you”.

I remember hearing him say that to the crowds live last Jan 6th.

Why has he not had this phrase hung around his neck? There are excuses like “Secret Service would never let him”, which means either he was lying or really stupid about it.

Or he knew exactly what he was doing, namely telling the crowd what he thought they needed to hear to get them to do his bidding.

I know others have said it before, but I’m more shocked by the unwavering devotion to Trump by his supporters than I am by anything Trump says or does. When I go out to shop and look around I know that at least 50% of my community lack basic critical thinking skills.

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darthstar  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:15:46am

re: #182 Barefoot Grin

My thoughts come from reading Marcy’s blog and Hugo’s reporting today. We know Trump is guilty as fuck, but the case has to be made carefully and forcefully in front of the American people. I don’t see Trump surrendering willingly. I think he’ll call out his forces “because they love me.”

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They can’t all be Person One. Congratulations to Alex Jones for taking the title. But if they do throw him in prison, liquidate his assets first so they can pay the Sandy Hook families the money he owes them.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:18:43am

re: #170 sagehen

wasn’t there a Doctor Who episode that the moon was a dragon egg (from a species that, obviously, takes a VERY long time before it’s ready to hatch… but then it did)

Or maybe it wasn’t Who, my memory could be conflating it with some other show.

Yes, and it may be the worse episode of both the old and new series.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:19:59am

re: #187 darthstar

They can’t all be Person One. Congratulations to Alex Jones for taking the title. But if they do throw him in prison, liquidate his assets first so they can pay the Sandy Hook families the money he owes them.

Yes!

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jeffreyw  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:22:17am
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ericblair  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:24:20am
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darthstar  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:34:19am

re: #191 ericblair

Imagine being the QA manager signing off on that project…talk about butt pucker.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:39:02am

re: #190 jeffreyw

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Pizza fun last night. Cleaning the stone afterwards this morning? Not so much

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jeffreyw  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:46:59am

re: #193 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Pizza fun last night. Cleaning the stone afterwards this morning? Not so much

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smile.amazon.com

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darthstar  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:47:26am

re: #193 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Two words: parchment paper.

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darthstar  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:48:31am

re: #194 jeffreyw

Will that get the bird poop off the hood of my wife’s car?

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sagehen  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:50:46am

re: #175 Barefoot Grin

Anyone else starting to get the feeling that this all ends in an armed stand off between Trump militias and US military at Mar-a-lago?

He’d never risk his own property. He also won’t want to provoke NY or CA to seize the properties he owns there.

He’ll call his followers to a standoff in a State where he 1) doesn’t own anything anyway, and 2) the state legislature and AG are his followers. Texas maybe? Or Michigan?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:51:04am

re: #194 jeffreyw

smile.amazon.com

Just a wee bit overkill wouldn’t you say?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:53:35am

re: #197 sagehen

He’d never risk his own property. He also won’t want to provoke NY or CA to seize the properties he owns there.

He’ll call his followers to a standoff in a State where he 1) doesn’t own anything anyway, and 2) the state legislature and AG are his followers. Texas maybe? Or Michigan?

I was trying to picture a world where he is lead off in handcuffs and can’t, either because he won’t be held accountable or he dresses up in Generalissimo attire and tries to command a rogue force. You guys’ comments have talked me down a bit from my fantasy. But, hey!

ETA: but the real fear is the one you present—he’ll call on followers to attack state capitals.

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sagehen  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:54:31am

re: #177 Florida Panhandler

Republicans think they have found the perfect hack against our EC democracy system by simply rigging the election process altogether by planning to place party hack electors into the EC via direct state legislative intervention. As a result the EC probably is here to stay during our lifetimes.

If somebody really wanted to spend the money… get 50,000 liberals to move to Wyoming. And 100,000 each to Montana and Alaska. Turn all 3 states blue, that’s six senators.

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jeffreyw  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:54:42am

re: #196 darthstar

Will that get the bird poop off the hood of my wife’s car?

Yes, but it will lead to a need to get your wife off your ass.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:55:26am

re: #195 darthstar

Two words: parchment paper.

Never seem to remember to pick some up when I go shopping. But I have a good heavy duty stainless steel spatula that I bought specifically for scraping it clean. It’s the ONLY metal spatula in this house as a matter of fact.

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The Squire of Logos  Jan 8, 2022 • 6:58:37am

re: #199 Barefoot Grin

I was trying to picture a world where he is lead off in handcuffs and can’t, either because he won’t be held accountable or he dresses up in Generalissimo attire and tries to command a rogue force. You guys’ comments have talked me down a bit from my fantasy. But, hey!

Or he dresses up in women’s attire and flees to Saudi Arabia.

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sagehen  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:00:26am

re: #186 Barefoot Grin

I know others have said it before, but I’m more shocked by the unwavering devotion to Trump by his supporters than I am by anything Trump says or does. When I go out to shop and look around I know that at least 50% of my community lack basic critical thinking skills.

Remember how they used to accuse us of “worshipping” Barack Obama? Once when he made a speech in Ohio, and there was a flag onstage with a big O they claimed we were elevating him above the nation (and they weren’t even embarrassed when they finally realized it was the Ohio state flag, they hadn’t recognized it…)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:00:48am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:03:31am

re: #202 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

We replaced all our plastic utensils when we changed to carbon steel and heavy clad cookware. We dumped all out non stick stuff and will never go back. I just wish we would have done it sooner.
I just love this stuff and Gail has become a better and more diverse cook as the result if it.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:07:33am

re: #206 Dave In Austin

We replaced all our plastic utensils when we changed to carbon steel and heavy clad cookware. We dumped all out non stick stuff and will never go back. I just wish we would have done it sooner.
I just love this stuff and Gail has become a better and more diverse cook as the result if it.

And I went the opposite way. Gave all of Beckie’s cast iron to my brother and SIL and went non-stick. I still have a couple of small stainless steel pots, but that’s about it.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:13:29am

re: #207 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

And I went the opposite way. Gave all of Beckie’s cast iron to my brother and SIL and went non-stick. I still have a couple of small stainless steel pots, but that’s about it.

We split the difference: my wife has gone non-stick and I still use my grandparents’ cast iron. I gave her one of those special spatulas for non-stick pans for Xmas because I’m a true romantic.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:28:02am

It’s daycare to get the parents back to work. This is how America is, even under a Democrat, because “states rights.”

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:36:56am
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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:41:48am

re: #106 Targetpractice

“Cause of death: viral pneumonia.”

I had posted a tweet yesterday where a woman noticed that they listed her father’s death as “aspiration” rather than Covid.

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Teukka  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:43:04am

re: #210 Punish Domestic Terrorists

[idea type=”mean cynical”]
Now, what about looking around for the same type of product as what he’s selling, and finding out how much his markup is?

Definetly not /S
[/idea]

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:45:37am

re: #149 Targetpractice

Just wanna take a sec to remark that the guy on the farm may be knee-deep in shit or the guy at the McDs occasionally having to clean some up in the bathroom, but those of us in the hotel industry are dealing with it on an almost daily basis:

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It used to be that the horror stories were limited to whenever a particular vile guest checked out after being locked up in their room for weeks or months at a stretch. Now? Now we’re facing them almost every day, because we don’t have the staff to do more than clean up what rooms empty that day between 11am and 3pm.

So the tourists who toured the Capitol on January 6 were acting as they would in their hotel rooms. Disgusting, and you’d think the hotels would at least blacklist the people who aren’t toilet trained. (It’s always been my habit to leave a hotel room as neat as when I entered it, except for the used towels hanging in the shower, the trash in the wastebasket and the unmade bed — if I made it on checkout day, they’d just have to take it apart. And the tip under the tv remote.)

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jeffreyw  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:47:39am

Buddy leads Annie up the trail

I was browsing through some older photos this morning.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:49:54am

re: #191 ericblair

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:49:54am

I had not checked he results of Wednesday’s PowerBall until just now. Saw that someone in California won the big jackpot so I checked and… I won… $9.

Better than nothing I guess. Sad thing is I had picked four of the numbers but not on one line.

Oh well.

PowerBall sales were much faster on Wednesday than expected. The MSL estimated on Monday that Wednesday’s cash value (not the annuity value which is much larger) at $409.3M, but it turned out to be almost $40M more than that!

Anyway, there were two winners (one in California) so they had to split the jackpot.

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:52:56am

re: #199 Barefoot Grin

I was trying to picture a world where he is lead off in handcuffs and can’t, either because he won’t be held accountable or he dresses up in Generalissimo attire and tries to command a rogue force. You guys’ comments have talked me down a bit from my fantasy. But, hey!

ETA: but the real fear is the one you present—he’ll call on followers to attack state capitals.

How, through the usps? //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:53:04am

re: #210 Punish Domestic Terrorists

“Throw one in the back of your truck while you’re at it for the next time Mayor Pete decides to leave you stranded on I-95 for 2 days”

Pete Buttigieg is in charge of weather?

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ericblair  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:54:03am

re: #215 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

The final wing is now deployed!

Congrats to the Webb team, there are a lot of people who are going to be sleeping well tonight. I’m pretty sure the most important things we discover with this telescope are the ones that we have no idea exist yet.

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Captain Magic  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:54:17am

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:55:08am

re: #216 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I had not checked he results of Wednesday’s PowerBall until just now. Saw that someone in California won the big jackpot so I checked and… I won… $9.

Better than nothing I guess. Sad thing is I had picked four of the numbers but not on one line.

Oh well.

PowerBall sales were much faster on Wednesday than expected. The MSL estimated on Monday that Wednesday’s cash value (not the annuity value which is much larger) at $409.3M, but it turned out to be almost $40M more than that!

Anyway, there were two winners (one in California) so they had to split the jackpot.

Split. winner in WI & CA
I won $7 on Monday’s PB’s Double Play

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Captain Magic  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:55:17am

Good news - I pick up a cat at 1:30 at Petsmart!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:55:43am

Oh, and the important part: the interest rate on the lottery annuity really jumped for today’s drawing.

The rate (1.441) is much higher than I’ve seen in quite a while.

Don’t know how much we can infer from that, but if the annuity broker is upping the rate that tells me that they expect inflation to continue to increase.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:57:00am

re: #167 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Jay C  Jan 8, 2022 • 7:58:22am

re: #219 ericblair

Congrats to the Webb team, there are a lot of people who are going to be sleeping well tonight. I’m pretty sure the most important things we discover with this telescope are the ones that we have no idea exist yet.

CAN they rest easy just yet?
I thought they needed to receive confirmation of successful final deployments- several hours away IIRC.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:00:07am
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Jay C  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:01:32am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Throw one in the back of your truck while you’re at it for the next time Mayor Pete decides to leave you stranded on I-95 for 2 days”

Pete Buttigieg is in charge of weather?

More of that Deep State stuff They Don’t Want You To Know About…

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:04:35am

ran 19.5 miles this morning
about half of it in daylight / over 70 degrees

feeling surprising good, so far.

the fort lauderdale A1A marathon is coming up in 6 weeks or so
this will be the first time i plan to deliberately run slow - which is how i’ve been training
it’s also the first time im hoping for it to be overly warm.

the marathon will be a shakedown race in preparation for the Keys 50k ultramarathon in May. the ultra should take about 6 hours and it averages 85 degrees or more the whole time

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:05:56am

Oh deer.

A Pennsylvania woman had more than junk in her trunk during a traffic stop this week.

Newberry Township Police were shocked to find a live deer in the trunk of the 19-year-old’s car when they stopped her Thursday for allegedly driving under the influence.

The driver told the officers she hit the deer and placed it in her trunk with the aid of a passenger. Both thought the deer was dead, but later realized it was still alive as they kept on driving in the area about 15 minutes south of Harrisburg, according to a report.

During the DUI stop, police asked the passenger, a 21-year-old man, to take the deer out of the trunk and put it back into the wild. It was not clear if the animal sustained any injuries.

nypost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:08:06am

We had a light dusting of snow, about 2”, that actually stuck around the whole day. Hooray!!!

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:08:27am

Catskill cops aren’t the brightest bulbs in the bunch.

The New York state attorney general on Friday released footage of a man bursting into flames after being tased by cops inside an upstate police station in October, an encounter that led to his death.

The disturbing surveillance video shows members of the Catskill Police Department running away, leaving the man as he desperately tries to put out the flames engulfing his upper body and head.

Jason Jones, 29, died on Dec. 15 at a hospital in Syracuse after spending six weeks in a medically-induced coma.

The office of New York Attorney General Letitia James is investigating his death.

The footage made public by James shows Jones pacing around the lobby of the police station, some 30 miles south of Albany, for about 10 minutes after speaking with several officers on Oct. 30.

nypost.com

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:08:46am

re: #222 Captain Magic

Good news - I pick up a cat at 1:30 at Petsmart!

Congratulations. @TheManksy would love pics to post.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:11:31am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is what is coming to Philly on Sunday.
weather.gov

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:11:35am

Just saw this really cute dog adoption commercial:

Youtube Video

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mmmirele  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:12:46am

There’s nothing, I repeat NOTHING, like waking up with a headache so bad that it makes you wish trepanning was a real solution. Analgesics have been taken and I just got my first cup of coffee.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:14:09am

That number is depressingly low

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:16:20am

This is a long thread on the harm of cryptocurrencies from the creator of Dogecoin.

A recent example of the harm is massive pollution, and out of control energy prices in Kazakhstan thanks to the Bitcoin people moving from China when it was banned.

The curtain just lifted on one of the many mysteries surrounding Bitcoin: How much is being produced using super-dirty coal in Kazakhstan. We knew that the Eurasian nation was a major destination for miners, and that the refugees recently expelled from China were flocking there. Still, it was difficult to establish how much of all the world’s coins Kazakhstan was minting. Clouding the picture was the government’s recent moves to severely restrict the mining boom that was plaguing its cities via rolling blackouts.

On January 5, the world got at least a rough answer. Violent protests erupted over the soaring cost of fuel and the nation’s autocratic rule. President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev sacked his government and declared a state of emergency. Apparently on his orders, the largest telecom provider shuttered the internet to interrupt communications among the opposition’s ranks. When the web goes down, miners can’t communicate with the Bitcoin network. The “hash rate,” the random codes that win fresh awards of Bitcoin, collapses. A few hours into the outage, Larry Cermak of the crypto news and research site The Block tweeted that a full 12% of Bitcoin’s worldwide computational power had vanished. His data showed sharp declines for a number of producers with operations in Kazakhstan. The hash rates for AntPool, Poolin and Binance Pool all fell between 12% and 16%.

Kazakhstan internet shutdown sheds light on a big Bitcoin mining mystery (Fortune)

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:17:39am

According to Ron Desantis, I do not do an annual physical to determine if I am sick. I must be going for the end where the doctor sticks his finger up my ass and massages my prostate. But the doc never calls me the next day, leaving me heartbroken.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:19:02am

re: #236 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

That number is depressingly low

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:19:14am

re: #235 mmmirele

There’s nothing, I repeat NOTHING, like waking up with a headache so bad that it makes you wish trepanning was a real solution. Analgesics have been taken and I just got my first cup of coffee.

I hope it passes quickly. Crappy way to start your weekend.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:20:06am

A reminder that Sec. Pete doesn’t have a magic Sharpie

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mmmirele  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:22:42am

re: #96 Targetpractice

I suppose it shouldn’t come as a surprise that we as a nation have successfully made the transition back to treating essential workers not as “heroes” but as “ungrateful fucks who don’t realize how good they got it.”

Yeah, there are some hospital workers who are complaining about people coming in for COVID tests and clogging things up. HELLO! The reason they’re there is because they have to get a test and show a positive test result, otherwise they could get written up or actually canned by their employer for failing to come in to work. I wish I could say this was original with me; a friend of mine had to point out “hey, this is actually what’s happening” because, even though I work for an evil too big to fail bank, we are *slightly* better in the sick/time off department than asshole employers who expect their infectious, poorly paid employees to come in, sick or no.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:23:13am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:24:21am

re: #210 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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What bullshit! This slop not only costs a fortune, it would likely gag any MAGAt who actually tried to eat it. Its purpose is performative, to impress fellow cosplayers when they receive tours of the home bunker.
I have an emergency food stash. It contains mostly ordinary dried and canned food that I would use normally. That way, it will rotate through during its shelf life.

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darthstar  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:26:09am

re: #237 Punish Domestic Terrorists

This is a long thread on the harm of cryptocurrencies from the creator of Dogecoin.

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A recent example of the harm is massive pollution, and out of control energy prices in Kazakhstan thanks to the Bitcoin people moving from China when it was banned.

Kazakhstan internet shutdown sheds light on a big Bitcoin mining mystery (Fortune)

The Kazak incident is a good wake up call. I hope a few bros lost their shirts.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:28:02am
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makeitstop  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:29:13am

Criminal conspiracy. Now we’re getting somewhere…

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Teukka  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:31:40am

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

What bullshit! This slop not only costs a fortune, it would likely gag any MAGAt who actually tried to eat it. Its purpose is performative, to impress fellow cosplayers when they receive tours of the home bunker.
I have an emergency food stash. It contains mostly ordinary dried and canned food that I would use normally. That way, it will rotate through during its shelf life.

Exactly. I use that to keep my 9 meals from anarchy in my home. And if I had a larger home, I’d have an UPS- and genset backed refigerator/freezer, and keep 14 to 21 days worth of food for everyone in the house (including guests(s)). No need for special stuff, just your off-the-shelf Cup-a-Soups, noodles, crushed tomatos, various cold storage veggies, dried stuffs…

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:33:55am

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

What bullshit! This slop not only costs a fortune, it would likely gag any MAGAt who actually tried to eat it. Its purpose is performative, to impress fellow cosplayers when they receive tours of the home bunker.
I have an emergency food stash. It contains mostly ordinary dried and canned food that I would use normally. That way, it will rotate through during its shelf life.

Conservatism has always been a grift.
I generally have enough food on hand to last several weeks, and like you it’s just regular food that gets eaten and replaced over time. That’s what normal people do rather than having a bunker full of inedible patriot-chow (Now with 30% more grift!).

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ericblair  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:34:25am

re: #236 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

That number is depressingly low

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This is also a bad poll. The two first questions are fine, but the last one means what? Bad shit just happened? I guess.

So, we’ve got two questions that say that the insurrection was bad, but phrased as “this was a crime” and “bad shit just happened”. 25% of the respondents supported the insurrection, close to the crazification factor.

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Teukka  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:34:47am

re: #249 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Conservatism has always been a grift.
I generally have enough food on hand to last several weeks, and like you it’s just regular food that gets eaten and replaced over time. That’s what normal people do rather than having a bunker full of inedible patriot-chow (Now with 30% more grift!).

More like 40-60% markup or in some cases 3-digit markup…

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:36:29am

re: #144 Targetpractice

That’s the key word, that they have yet to find a way to automate these processes such that they can match every single nuance and spark of intuition that a human worker brings to the table. They could readily build machines to automate the process, but the result would end up being such a mess that they’d lose more money on damage or destroyed product than they would save removing workers from the line.

They’re dumbing down their customers so they won’t expect anything but gruel.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:36:45am

re: #251 Teukka

More like 40-60% markup or in some cases 3-digit markup…

30% more grift. The original product was also a grift.

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ericblair  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:37:34am

re: #225 Jay C

CAN they rest easy just yet?
I thought they needed to receive confirmation of successful final deployments- several hours away IIRC.

The announcement implied that the latching process isn’t considered high risk; I imagine there are multiple ways to get around any problems and no single points of failure.

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Teukka  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:37:36am

re: #253 Punish Domestic Terrorists

30% more grift. The original product was also a grift.

So… “Compound grifting”?

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:38:22am

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

What bullshit! This slop not only costs a fortune, it would likely gag any MAGAt who actually tried to eat it. Its purpose is performative, to impress fellow cosplayers when they receive tours of the home bunker.
I have an emergency food stash. It contains mostly ordinary dried and canned food that I would use normally. That way, it will rotate through during its shelf life.

the premise is stuck in a car, right…
so a pitcher and glass?
how are you cooking this stuff?
and where’d you get the fresh fruit?

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:40:35am

re: #150 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I remember really liking K-Mart food, but then again, we got to go out to eat once a month, and sometimes that was Taco Bueno.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:41:37am

re: #134 sagehen

we’re finally being forced to acknowledge that

1) the work that relies on academic skills (typically better paid) can easily be done from home — if you’ve got good wifi and a phone, no need to ever be present in person; and

2) the work that relies on physical skills (typically low-paid) can ONLY be done in person. And if that work has anything to do with food — growing, harvesting, processing, transporting, putting it on the trucks, taking it off the trucks, preparing it in a kitchen, delivering it — the entire world comes to a screechng halt if there’s nobody to do it. They’re the very definition of “essential”. All those people sitting at their desks earning a good living, can’t function without the minimum wage FOOD people. Who, the godawful nerve of them, have realized they’re also entitled to earn enough to pay their rent and feed their kids.

For the highly educated, there are many skills that do require work outside their home. Scientists who develop pharmaceutical products (the vaccines?) or doctors examining patients or performing surgeries, or chemists working in labs. Or even academics who find that online books are no substitute for real books in a real library.

For those involved in food processing, you are so correct. In 2020, I lost a friend of over 45 years because he was totally contemptuous of the risks faced by these workers. His view was that their role was to keep the economy going without regard to the risk to their health and that meat processing plants needed to keep operating as is without regard to the workers’ health.

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gocart mozart  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:42:28am
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gocart mozart  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:43:01am
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gocart mozart  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:45:02am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:46:03am

re: #84 plansbandc

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Mascot needs some ice cleats.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:46:17am

re: #191 ericblair

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We wer having quite the discussion yesterday about the satellite being put in orbit around the L2 point. Not just at the L2, but it will be orbiting it as if it were an object with an actual gravitational pull.

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dat_said  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:47:23am

re: #257 Belafon

I remember really liking K-Mart food, but then again, we got to go out to eat once a month, and sometimes that was Taco Bueno.

My sister’s first job was making ham and cheese sandwiches at the Kmart deli stand. She’d make hundreds a day, so somebody must have liked them. Don’t think I ever had one but I’ll never forget that smell of mustard on her clothes and body when she come home *erk*

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Dave In Austin  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:47:41am
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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:48:36am

re: #205 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:49:07am

re: #92 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

OmicRon Desantis can’t really be that dumb. He can’t… this is like forgetting how to breathe stupid.

Updinged for OmicRon Desantis

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mmmirele  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:50:30am

Wow, don’t know what I did on Twitter, but I just got limited for 12 hours.

This was the last tweet I was posting when I got the “your Tweets are limited” message.

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makeitstop  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:51:17am

re: #260 gocart mozart

Purged of his reactionary mindset through struggle, Comrade Cruz can return to the embrace of the Party.

That’s why I had the feeling that the whole Tucker segment was at least semi-scripted.

Ted grovels a little, Tucker walks him through his ‘apology,’ and afterwards Ted is once again A-OK with people who were ready to toss him out of the party.

They may need him later if whatsisname down at Mar-A-Lago suddenly kicks the proverbial bucket.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:51:40am

re: #95 Belafon

What he said about his wife’s cancer diagnosis:

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The truth is whatever they need it to be at the moment.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:55:47am

re: #265 dat_said

My sister’s first job was making ham and cheese sandwiches at the Kmart deli stand. She’d make hundreds a day, so somebody must have liked them. Don’t think I ever had one but I’ll never forget that smell of mustard on her clothes and body when come home *erk*

We absolutely loved those. Whenever we went on a trip we would get some of those.

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William Lewis  Jan 8, 2022 • 8:56:42am

re: #248 Teukka

Exactly. I use that to keep my 9 meals from anarchy in my home. And if I had a larger home, I’d have an UPS- and genset backed refigerator/freezer, and keep 14 to 21 days worth of food for everyone in the house (including guests(s)). No need for special stuff, just your off-the-shelf Cup-a-Soups, noodles, crushed tomatos, various cold storage veggies, dried stuffs…

A big bag of rice is good so long as you have potable water.
Beans are excellent protein, same caveat, though canned are good.
Canned veggies, in various sized cans, are great for this as well.

Seeds for the long term. Look up the “Three Sisters” for the best way to plant for subsistence.

The ultimate emergency food? A flock of chickens. A couple of dozen birds can keep a family in meat and eggs, even provide a surplus for trade.

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gocart mozart  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:00:13am
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dat_said  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:01:18am

re: #272 Belafon

We absolutely loved those. Whenever we went on a trip we would get some of those.

I’ll let my sister know that you liked her work.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:01:44am

re: #257 Belafon

I remember really liking K-Mart food, but then again, we got to go out to eat once a month, and sometimes that was Taco Bueno.

I remember K-mart ham sandwiches (this woulda been the late 70s/early 80s). Good stuff.

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mmmirele  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:13:28am

I posted a picture of myself the other day, and FB coughed up a pic of me from 9 years ago today. Posting behind the button, but I think I look a lot better than I did in 2013, even if I am 9 years older.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:17:04am

re: #273 William Lewis

A big bag of rice is good so long as you have potable water.
Beans are excellent protein, same caveat, though canned are good.
Canned veggies, in various sized cans, are great for this as well.

Seeds for the long term. Look up the “Three Sisters” for the best way to plant for subsistence.

The ultimate emergency food? A flock of chickens. A couple of dozen birds can keep a family in meat and eggs, even provide a surplus for trade.

Beans are good and rice is good, but beans and rice together gives you complete protein (containing all the amino acids you need — since they’re not stored, you need to eat them together).

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Dave In Austin  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:17:13am

Stand by their product

OW……..!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:18:30am

re: #239 Punish Domestic Terrorists

And the other half is entirely fine with letting our democracy come to an end. Too many Americans have been turned against our democracy by far-right propaganda.

Consider the number of Republicans who have no problem with people violating the law if it helps their cause.

Add to that the number who are actively ready to do so, including committing acts of violence, and you probably have most of the GOP…

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wrenchwench  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:20:46am

re: #278 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Beans are good and rice is good, but beans and rice together gives you complete protein (containing all the amino acids you need — since they’re not stored, you need to eat them together).

Diet for a Small Planet said it had to be at the same meal. I think now they say if it’s within the same week, it works. Maybe shorter than that.

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:22:50am

re: #277 mmmirele

I posted a picture of myself the other day, and FB coughed up a pic of me from 9 years ago today. Posting behind the button, but I think I look a lot better than I did in 2013, even if I am 9 years older.

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I thought you were taller (obligatory)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:24:00am

re: #278 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Beans are good and rice is good, but beans and rice together gives you complete protein (containing all the amino acids you need — since they’re not stored, you need to eat them together).

Chili and rice. mmmmmmmmmmm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:25:50am

re: #257 Belafon

I remember really liking K-Mart food, but then again, we got to go out to eat once a month, and sometimes that was Taco Bueno.

For me it was the A&W Root Beer in Sedona, AZ

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:26:16am

Speaking of food that should be cooked in larges amounts … (With sichuan peppercorns).

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:26:32am

re: #281 wrenchwench

Diet for a Small Planet said it had to be at the same meal. I think now they say if it’s within the same week, it works. Maybe shorter than that.

I hadn’t heard that. Interesting, if true.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:27:22am

re: #283 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Chili and rice. mmmmmmmmmmm.

Meat chili, no beans, serve over rice.

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dat_said  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:28:11am

As an NDSU alum I must say say that it sucks that Touchdown Tommy Mellott of Montana State was injured during their first series (he says to a crowd of people most likely indifferent to the FCS).

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Dave In Austin  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:29:31am

Art History for today

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mmmirele  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:31:07am

re: #132 Decatur Deb

In 10 years the historians will arrive at consensus on the CV-19 death rate. In 30 years revisionist historians will achieve a new consensus.

In 10 years, will it be forgotten? In 30 years, will it even be remembered? The reason I say that is by the 1980s, nobody was really doing research on the pandemic of 1918. Alfred Crosby, who taught American history at my alma mater, UT Austin, wrote an entire book called “America’s Forgotten Pandemic” about the 1918 pandemic. I know that’s where I first heard about it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:32:39am

re: #290 mmmirele

In 10 years, will it be forgotten? In 30 years, will it even be remembered? The reason I say that is by the 1980s, nobody was really doing research on the pandemic of 1918. Alfred Crosby, who taught American history at my alma mater, UT Austin, wrote an entire book called “America’s Forgotten Pandemic” about the 1918 pandemic. I know that’s where I first heard about it.

It was all but forgotten except to history wonks like myself and only came back into public consciousness because of Covid.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:33:17am

re: #290 mmmirele

I remember briefly covering the 1918 pandemic in my HS history classes as part of our WWI studies.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:35:44am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was all but forgotten except to history wonks like myself and only came back into public consciousness because of Covid.

I bought a book about the 1918 pandemic about ten years ago. I think PBS was running shows about it. Like finding out about the Tulsa riots.

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wrenchwench  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:38:37am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

For me it was the A&W Root Beer in Sedona, AZ

When we were kids in Wisconsin, we went to an A & W drive up. My older brother (not very old at the time) asked the carhop what A&W stood for. She said, ‘I don’t know…Ambergers and Wootbeer?’ I thought she was so clever. My brother was upset because she didn’t have the real info.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:41:29am

re: #289 Dave In Austin

Art history. (The early part is cut off but basically, she’s rating whether the painter has ever seen a baby before.)

Witty and funny, but it actually has little to with whether the artist knew how to paint a baby; it was the artistic convention back then to portray The Savior as a homunculus rather than as a baby to show his full-grown-man perfection.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:42:19am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:42:38am

re: #293 Belafon

I bought a book about the 1918 pandemic about ten years ago. I think PBS was running shows about it. Like finding out about the Tulsa riots.

I bought the definitive work, John Barry’s “The Great Influenza”, in 2004 when it was first published. It was this book that led Bush “the lesser” to become very concerned about the possibilities of a pandemic wreaking havoc on the world; certainly the Sars crisis may have first alerted him to dangers and this book solidified his concern. For all his flaws, Bush was a serious reader and a giant compared to his Republican successor.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:42:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:43:05am

re: #294 wrenchwench

When we were kids in Wisconsin, we went to an A & W drive up. My older brother (not very old at the time) asked the carhop what A&W stood for. She said, ‘I don’t know…Ambergers and Wootbeer?’ I thought she was so clever. My brother was upset because she didn’t have the real info.

I had to look it up:

1922: Roy Allen partnered with former Lodi employee Frank Wright and leased their first two Root Beer stands to other operators so they could expand into the larger city of Sacramento. This was around the same time the partners coined the new name A&W®, “A” for Allen and “W” for Wright.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:43:32am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:45:29am

re: #296 Belafon

Covid can be seen as a moral failing if you knowingly and unnecessarily expose yourself to it, but people who tend to do that often see themselves as too morally superior to feel bad about it, or are too coarse and stupid to care.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:47:24am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Covid can be seen as a moral failing if you knowingly and unnecessarily expose yourself to it, but people who tend to do that often see themselves as too morally superior to feel bad about it, or are too coarse and stupid to care.

Yes, but the pressure from the “oh, you got vaccinated and still got the virus” is going to be huge.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:48:27am
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wrenchwench  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:48:37am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I had to look it up:

1922: Roy Allen partnered with former Lodi employee Frank Wright and leased their first two Root Beer stands to other operators so they could expand into the larger city of Sacramento. This was around the same time the partners coined the new name A&W®, “A” for Allen and “W” for Wright.

Thank you.

Mr. Arnold and Mr. Schwinn started a bike company, Arnold Schwinn. Most people think Arnold was Mr. Schwinn’s first name. I thought about that when I thought about naming my bike (something I’ve never done.) Arnold. Good bike name.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:50:02am

re: #302 Belafon

Yes, but the pressure from the “oh, you got vaccinated and still got the virus” is going to be huge.

I am vaccinated but I still avoid crowded indoor venues and limit my contact to grocery shopping and other necessary errands.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:55:51am

We’re number one again:

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:58:16am
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Captain Magic  Jan 8, 2022 • 9:59:41am

re: #255 Teukka

So… “Compound grifting”?

What do you thin Multi-Level Marketing is?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:02:59am

re: #306 Belafon

We’re number one again:

48% Fully vaccinated in my state.

We have ZERO restrictions whatsoever.

Thanks, right wing jackasses. 😡

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:04:10am

re: #298 Belafon

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Charlie Kirk: “I am more afraid of getting eaten by a grizzly bear than COVID”

but you’re far, far more likely to get covid

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retired cynic  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:04:32am
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retired cynic  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:05:17am

re: #311 retired cynic

yow, all I wanted was the last tweet, sorry for the clutter

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:10:09am

re: #312 retired cynic

yow, all I wanted was the last tweet, sorry for the clutter

The context helps.

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jeffreyw  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:12:36am

Mrs J reports empty shelves at Kroger, long lines.

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:14:34am
An overwhelming majority of Americans believe the U.S. is in the grips of a full-blown mental health crisis,” according to a new USA Today/Suffolk University poll.

“Nearly two years into the Covid-19 pandemic, which brought a rise in depression, anxiety, stress, addiction and other challenges, almost nine in ten registered voters believe there’s a ‘mental health crisis’ in the nation.”

Agreed

But not cause of covid

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:16:20am

re: #314 jeffreyw

I went to my local supermarket this morning. Some shelves were half full. My favorite cashier said it is the parent company that is shipping only what the stores need as per averages from previous years. Personally I think they are trying to prevent hoarding.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:16:38am
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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:17:18am

re: #315 Dangerman

Rando:

Our chief mistake with psychopaths is to rationalize their behavior.

We saw this in spades early on when the former guy asserted himself on the political scene. You heard people ‘normalizing’ and re-interpreting his behavior (“What he really means is….”) and projecting on him (“He’s just saying what everyone would say if they had the courage…”).

That projection of theirs came back like looking in a mirror and so they ultimately believed, “He’s just like me…” and then they became more and more like him.

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steve_davis  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:22:26am

re: #170 sagehen

wasn’t there a Doctor Who episode that the moon was a dragon egg (from a species that, obviously, takes a VERY long time before it’s ready to hatch… but then it did)

Or maybe it wasn’t Who, my memory could be conflating it with some other show.

It was Who all right. An episode so bad I’m still traumatized by it, clearly.

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:23:10am

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wrenchwench  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:24:47am

re: #317 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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The Democratic Party would like to keep running Democrats, not Libertarians nor Socialists, TYVM.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:25:05am

re: #316 PhillyPretzel

I went to my local supermarket this morning. Some shelves were half full. My favorite cashier said it is the parent company that is shipping only what the stores need as per averages from previous years. Personally I think they are trying to prevent hoarding.

The only problem I ran into yesterday afternoon was getting coriander for my sister. The shelves were full of other spices, but the sections for several brands of coriander were empty. I finally found a more expensive larger container. But why coriander??

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:25:15am

Wife and I are currently grocery shopping. Stock levels seem pretty good here.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:26:21am

re: #316 PhillyPretzel

I went to my local supermarket this morning. Some shelves were half full. My favorite cashier said it is the parent company that is shipping only what the stores need as per averages from previous years. Personally I think they are trying to prevent hoarding.

I haven’t seen any signs of “blatant” hoarding in my area. The only thing I wasn’t able to get at our Fred Meyers (Kroger owned) store was my beef flavored Ramon Noodles. But they are on sale two for a buck and they are always running out of them. Same with my Progresso soups. On sale and out of stock.

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steve_davis  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:27:36am

re: #188 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Yes, and it may be the worse episode of both the old and new series.

Worse than the Pertwee episode where they basically ran out of special effects money and had the doctor fending off a bat-on-a-string from his inertialess model t?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:27:43am

re: #170 sagehen

wasn’t there a Doctor Who episode that the moon was a dragon egg (from a species that, obviously, takes a VERY long time before it’s ready to hatch… but then it did)

Or maybe it wasn’t Who, my memory could be conflating it with some other show.

Space spiders “Kill the Moon”

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steve_davis  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:28:35am

re: #193 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Pizza fun last night. Cleaning the stone afterwards this morning? Not so much

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I use a metal dough scraper and assume anything still visible will burn off the next time I preheat it at 425.

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wrenchwench  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:29:04am

Shelves will start to be bare if a couple of overnight stockers call out the same night.

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:29:08am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:29:16am

re: #321 wrenchwench

The Democratic Party would like to keep running Democrats, not Libertarians nor Socialists, TYVM.

And the Berniebots are responsible for the SCOTUS that completely overturned voting rights and is prepared to abolish a woman’s right to choose. But they still are ready to do everything to destroy our democracy because they can’t get everything they want now.

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Jay C  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:30:49am

re: #317 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

What I see here is also a reminder that when it comes to political matters (of any sort) Andrew Yang is a blithering idiot: whose influence ought to be (but isn’t because of his money) no more than any rando LW blogger…

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dat_said  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:30:52am

re: #288 dat_said

As an NDSU alum I must say say that it sucks that Touchdown Tommy Mellott of Montana State was injured during their first series (he says to a crowd of people most likely indifferent to the FCS).

Well, NDSU 28 MtSt 0 at halftime. Losing Touchdown Tommy really changed the game but likely not the outcome. Looks as if NDSU will get their 9th national FCS championship to go along with all the Div II national titles.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:31:10am

re: #270 makeitstop

That’s why I had the feeling that the whole Tucker segment was at least semi-scripted.

Ted grovels a little, Tucker walks him through his ‘apology,’ and afterwards Ted is once again A-OK with people who were ready to toss him out of the party.

They may need him later if whatsisname down at Mar-A-Lago suddenly kicks the proverbial bucket.

Yeah, I thought of your post when I saw that Mollie tweet.

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:32:50am

re: #331 Jay C

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What I see here is also a reminder that when it comes to political matters (of any sort) Andrew Yang is a blithering idiot: whose influence ought to be (but isn’t because of his money) no more than any rando LW blogger…

“The fact is the Dems should have let Bernie and Hillary go at it fair and square in 2016”

They did
He lost

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steve_davis  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:32:59am

re: #210 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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LOL! Yeah, the next time you are stranded on I-95, just break out the soup mix. You can slow cook the dried beans in thawing snow on top of your still-warm engine using a frisbee your son left crammed under the front passenger seat.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:35:41am

re: #327 steve_davis

I use a metal dough scraper and assume anything still visible will burn off the next time I preheat it at 425.

Stainless steel spatula, clear hot water and let dry.

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William Lewis  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:36:48am

re: #331 Jay C

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jaunte  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:37:36am

re: #269 mmmirele

Their system probably caught these words:
‘kill my 82 YO mom’
and disregarded any context.

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steve_davis  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:38:26am

re: #229 Shropshire Slasher

Oh deer.

nypost.com

The man took the deer to a costome party hosted by the Berkowitzes. Later, the deer came in second place for the best costume award. First place was the Goldfelds. Dressed as deer.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:38:26am

re: #292 Eclectic Cyborg

I remember briefly covering the 1918 pandemic in my HS history classes as part of our WWI studies.

My 8th grade teacher lost much of her family and WV mining town to it.

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:39:31am

re: #339 steve_davis

The man took the deer to a costome party hosted by the Berkowitzes. Later, the deer came in second place for the best costume award. First place was the Goldfelds. Dressed as deer.

+1, Tuesdays, thursdays, and especially Saturdays

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steve_davis  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:41:42am

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

What bullshit! This slop not only costs a fortune, it would likely gag any MAGAt who actually tried to eat it. Its purpose is performative, to impress fellow cosplayers when they receive tours of the home bunker.
I have an emergency food stash. It contains mostly ordinary dried and canned food that I would use normally. That way, it will rotate through during its shelf life.

my emergency food stash is hotdogs, stored in the freezer. I wouldn’t eat them, but if there’s some kind of zombide apocalypse, hot dogs are close enough to rotting meat to where I assume the zombies might choose them rather than me, if I need a distraction.

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jaunte  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:41:47am
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mmmirele  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:42:10am

re: #338 jaunte

Their system probably caught these words:
‘kill my 82 YO mom’
and disregarded any context.

yeah, ok, that’s possible. But you know, these guys are trying to kill my 82 YO mom through their MUH FREEDUMBS and their deliberate carelessness.

eta: I’ll be more careful to elide words like kill with k*ll or something. Or use French or Spanish. Or something.

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wrenchwench  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:44:16am

re: #344 mmmirele

yeah, ok, that’s possible. But you know, these guys are trying to kill my 82 YO mom through their MUH FREEDUMBS and their deliberate carelessness.

Twittuh does not unnerstan.

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jaunte  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:44:19am

re: #344 mmmirele

I caught the same kind of timeout for suggesting during one of Dan Crenshaw’s tantrums that he hold his breath until he turned blue and see if that worked too.

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Dangerman  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:45:05am

re: #345 wrenchwench

Twittuh does not unnerstan. care

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jaunte  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:45:06am

Imagine the session that created the list of trigger phrases that had to be programmed in.

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mmmirele  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:46:15am

Oh, it turns out that LEE CHATFIELD, the accused pedophile rapist of his sister in law, is a complete and utter sleaze:

White denied there was anything “consensual” about the relationship. Chatfield, White said, took advantage of the woman when she would come over to watch his kids, “manipulated her through the church,” took advantage of her while she was “vulnerable,” and assaulted the woman “in a closet on her wedding night.”

detroitnews.com

Who the FUCK does that? A privileged young man in a world (the Independent Fundamental Baptists) where boys and men are akin to God and women and girls are just seen as sex dolls and baby machines.

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jaunte  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:46:29am

You can talk about mass death, just not anyone specific.

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wrenchwench  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:49:33am
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A Cranky One  Jan 8, 2022 • 10:52:08am

My new spirit animal.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 8, 2022 • 11:26:28am

re: #200 sagehen

If somebody really wanted to spend the money… get 50,000 liberals to move to Wyoming. And 100,000 each to Montana and Alaska. Turn all 3 states blue, that’s six senators.

The moment anyone notices the demographic shift starting watch how quickly all three states modify their residency requirements for voting.


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