Seth Meyers: Jan. 6 Committee Subpoenas Rudy Giuliani; NY AG Details Trump Fraud Case

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Seth takes a closer look at the January 6 commission subpoenaing several key Trump allies (including Rudy Giuliani) and the New York State attorney general revealing her office has uncovered evidence of possible fraud committed by Trump’s businesses.

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Citizen K  Jan 19, 2022 • 6:47:29pm

To reply to something from the previous thread:

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

BREAKING: Senate Republicans just blocked the Freedom to Vote: John R. Lewis Act, which would protect your right to vote and strengthen our democracy.

Not a single Republican in Congress supported protecting voting rights.

So. Now that they put it to the vote, are Dems actually going to get credit for forcing a vote and putting the GOP on record? I was told that they would actually get credit for their votes and forcing the GOP to actually vote ‘no’ on these sorts of things.

….I’m not holding my breath for it. Just…needed to put that into the air.

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prairiefire  Jan 19, 2022 • 6:55:49pm

Hey hey the Supremes voted against Trump!!11!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2022 • 6:56:17pm
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jaunte  Jan 19, 2022 • 6:57:59pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

How can he impugn something that doesn’t exist?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:01:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:02:17pm

re: #4 jaunte

How can he impugn something that doesn’t exist?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:02:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:02:58pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:07:49pm

Diego Bernal is the Texas State Representative for District 123 (San Antonio)

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:10:04pm

I’m seeing this question being asked all over twitter now, and I am posting the best response I have seen:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:16:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:22:59pm

niterz, lizardz!

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Dangerman  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:28:55pm

re: #10 Belafon

I’m seeing this question being asked all over twitter now, and I am posting the best response I have seen:

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..people who can’t vote in person and whose absentee ballot requests are denied…

…people whose voter registration applications are purposely mishandled…

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:31:10pm

Billionaires kill.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:31:57pm

Forecast 14 degrees here tonight, 19 tomorrow. Should be easy to manage. We’ll be setting up a public warming center in Gordon, as we did during the Abbott Freeze last year.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:33:32pm

re: #14 jaunte

Billionaires kill.

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We need solar emergency power, generators, propane heaters and camp stoves, warm clothes, and guillotines.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:37:34pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Forecast 14 degrees here tonight, 19 tomorrow. Should be easy to manage. We’ll be setting up a public warming center in Gordon, as we did during the Abbott Freeze last year.

Stay safe. Up I-35 from Texas, it’s going to be an entirely below 0 °F (-17.8 C) day tomorrow.

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:41:36pm

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

We need solar emergency power, generators, propane heaters and camp stoves, warm clothes, and guillotines.

Stay safe and stay dangerous.

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Dangerman  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:46:51pm
PEMBROKE PINES, Fla. - Reynald Belizaire is Florida Lottery’s latest $1 million winner after picking up a very lucky scratch-off ticket from a local supermarket.

The 59-year-old Pembroke Pines resident bought his $30 Fastest Road to $1,000,000 ticket at the Publix located at 12681 Miramar Parkway in Miramar, state lottery officials said.

Another Publix winner within a few miles of the pond

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:50:16pm

When they show you who they are…

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jan 19, 2022 • 7:59:37pm

2014: Santa Paula, California

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:03:47pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:04:04pm

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Citizen K  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:04:34pm

And of course, the only people that will pay the price for this are every other Dem, because everything sucks, and Biden’s presser seems to have done nothing to convince the folks who needed convincing that he’s the real History’s Greatest monster and the real source of all problems.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:08:46pm

re: #20 jaunte

When they show you who they are…

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The only positive of McConnell’s statement was that he used “Democratic” for the party name and not “Democrat”.

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:10:44pm
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Belafon  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:23:31pm
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austin_blue  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:34:11pm

CL’d (PBUH):

re: #235 darthstar

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Well, I don’t mean to “actually” you, Tricky Dick, but actually, you both were/are fucking liars.

The difference between you and the TFG is that Drumpf did it for personal gain and you did it to advance an agenda you believed was better for the country.

Does that make you better?

No. You were still a complete liar and asshole.

And I’m for the rack. I am being killed by Mountain Juniper (aka Cedar fever) pollen this week.

Brutal!

Eighty one degrees today and the wind is howling outside with a wake up temp of thirty degrees here in town.

Texas winter weather.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:42:53pm

Yeah, I don’t understand this either:

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:46:21pm

re: #28 austin_blue

It was in the sixties this morning here in Rockwall and its now 36.

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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:53:06pm

re: #30 Belafon

It was in the sixties this morning here in Rockwall and its now 36.

It was about +5 this morning in StP and now it’s -2. High for tomorrow is +3 according to WU.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2022 • 8:57:24pm

She used to work for Sinema:

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:05:00pm

re: #27 Belafon

I have 1200 hours in Euro Truck Simulator. I joked that I could be hired in the UK!
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:07:24pm

re: #27 Belafon

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It’s not quite as bad as the the article makes it sound. Current minimum age for interstate trucking is 21. The bill would lower it to 18.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:09:54pm
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Belafon  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:13:54pm

Ready to contribute to this:

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:15:38pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:15:41pm

re: #1 Citizen K

To reply to something from the previous thread:

So. Now that they put it to the vote, are Dems actually going to get credit for forcing a vote and putting the GOP on record? I was told that they would actually get credit for their votes and forcing the GOP to actually vote ‘no’ on these sorts of things.

….I’m not holding my breath for it. Just…needed to put that into the air.

The reality is that votes like these needed to be happening last year, as a way of highlighting the ongoing obstruction and putting Sinema and Manchin on the spot again and again. But instead the path of least resistance was pursued and the result is that what might have been a bold strategy to make voters aware of just how it’s impossible for even a 51 vote majority to govern in D.C. is instead looking like a desperate scramble to “pass something” before the midterms.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:18:40pm

re: #38 Targetpractice

The reality is that votes like these needed to be happening last year, as a way of highlighting the ongoing obstruction and putting Sinema and Manchin on the spot again and again. But instead the path of least resistance was pursued and the result is that what might have been a bold strategy to make voters aware of just how it’s impossible for even a 51 vote majority to govern in D.C. is instead looking like a desperate scramble to “pass something” before the midterms.

As compared to the parts where they obstructed the funding bills?

They wouldn’t have faced any more pressure last year than they have this year.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:23:41pm

re: #39 Belafon

As compared to the parts where they obstructed the funding bills?

They wouldn’t have faced any more pressure last year than they have this year.

Let’s be honest, if they faced any pressure at all, it was in the form of having their fee-fees hurt by being called out in the press. Every time a scenario like tonight was suggested, being forced to stand by their bullshit by having their “No” vote recorded, the immediate response was screaming fits about how they’d leave the party if made to feel too uncomfortable and then “ZOMG, WE’LL NOT BE ABLE TO SEAT ANY MORE JUDGES!!!”

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RinaX  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:42:56pm

It looks like things went as expected with the vote. Glad to hear that Ossoff confronted Susan Collins. They need to continue giving both her and Romney hell. I hope they plan similar votes for different pieces of the BBB bill.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:45:18pm

So while the world fell apart I had a nice relaxing 25 mile bike ride today. It was a relatively warm 63 and the sun was out for once. I reached 1750 miles on the odometer, I hope to have at least 2500 miles for the year (Memorial Day). Winter really hinders my gumption to go out and ride.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2022 • 9:46:33pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

Let’s be honest, if they faced any pressure at all, it was in the form of having their fee-fees hurt by being called out in the press. Every time a scenario like tonight was suggested, being forced to stand by their bullshit by having their “No” vote recorded, the immediate response was screaming fits about how they’d leave the party if made to feel too uncomfortable and then “ZOMG, WE’LL NOT BE ABLE TO SEAT ANY MORE JUDGES!!!”

And this is why we are in the mess we are in today — Democrats have never made the Supreme Court nor judges in general a priority in voting. If we had, we might not be facing the voting catastrophe in 2022 because the VRA would still be in effect, Citizens United would not be the law of the land, and Roe v Wade would not be on life support.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:01:17pm

As usual, the savage and barbaric murder of Brianna Kupfer has brought MAGAts in an uproar and fueled their racism and sheer hatred of black people. I really wish the father didn’t show up on Fox News, but on the other hand I have a difficult time criticizing a grief-stricken father who just lost his daughter in the most horrific manner imaginable.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:03:04pm

re: #43 Hecuba’s daughter

And this is why we are in the mess we are in today — Democrats have never made the Supreme Court nor judges in general a priority in voting. If we had, we might not be facing the voting catastrophe in 2022 because the VRA would still be in effect, Citizens United would not be the law of the land, and Roe v Wade would not be on life support.

We’re in this mess today because we keep aiming for mediocrity and then falling short. We win majorities and then allow ourselves to be paralyzed by what might happen if we lose that majority after taking steps to nullify Republican obstruction. We insist that we can get what we need done within the boundaries of the rules, even those “rules” that Republicans created out of thin air. Then we lose the majority because we are seen as “do nothing,” only for the Republicans to declare “fuck the rules” and do whatever they fucking like as we issue press releases about “hypocrisy.”

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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:18:16pm

This one developed nicely.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:18:41pm

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:27:00pm

Weather Channel:

Monday: “SNOWZILLA IS COMING! 5-8” MINIMUM BY SATURDAY! PREPARE FOR ARMAGEDDON!!!”

Tonight: “Er, we’re looking at maybe 3” by Saturday morning, and that’s assuming the front doesn’t just pass you by.”

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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:31:45pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:36:04pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

re: #49 stpaulbear

Is there a missing decimal in there?

Must suck.

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Cheechako  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:36:06pm

My results:

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The game is starting to control me. Last night I woke up after dreaming about how to find five letter words. Enough of that!!

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:36:39pm

re: #49 stpaulbear

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It’s like the third time in the past month that the weather guessers have called for snow here in Virginia Beach. This time there’s a good possibility they’ll be right, but the dire warnings of snow deep enough to shut down the entire city are now turning into “Well, we might see deep snow, but mostly it will just be icy roads, so watch out for dumb drivers.”

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:37:40pm

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:40:43pm

Most amusing thing about the whole experience is that, for the first time I can remember in my life, the city sent people around this week to warn businesses about possible power outages due to the storm. Which, y’know, is nice of them to acknowledge that the power grid in this city is about as stable in inclement weather as a third-world banana republic.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:46:59pm

re: #43 Hecuba’s daughter

And this is why we are in the mess we are in today — Democrats have never made the Supreme Court nor judges in general a priority in voting. If we had, we might not be facing the voting catastrophe in 2022 because the VRA would still be in effect, Citizens United would not be the law of the land, and Roe v Wade would not be on life support.

This is because the average person doesn’t live politics and is annoyed by having to worry about it beyond 1 day every 4 years or so. The left (the actual left, not most Democrats) are basically nearly as authoritarian as the right without really seeing it, and just want a Bernie-like messiah to fix everything in a Thanos snap without doing the work of well… any of the rest of the work.

Which also is why far left Green party people think a party that has no one in Congress, the Senate, any state governor, is ready to run a winning Presidential candidate.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:48:22pm

re: #49 stpaulbear

That’s a rather broad range there. So like, one inch on the valley floor and 78 inches at elevations above 100 feet or something?

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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:49:06pm

re: #52 Targetpractice

I’m way more freaked out about driving on ice than I am about driving in snow. With my small car I’d just gotten used to taking the bus to work (pre-covid) if there was a snowstorm in the forecast. Busses would be late but they’d still be running.

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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:52:39pm

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

That’s a rather broad range there. So like, one inch on the valley floor and 78 inches at elevations above 100 feet or something?

It’s 1” across town and 78” in my driveway.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:53:48pm

re: #57 stpaulbear

I’m way more freaked out about driving on ice than I am about driving in snow. With my small car I’d just gotten used to taking the bus to work (pre-covid) if there was a snowstorm in the forecast. Busses would be late but they’d still be running.

I’m less worried about my ability to deal with ice on the roads than I am about other drivers. I know my limitations and will not be on the road if I don’t feel capable, but I see way too many morons who are not only on the icy roads, but barreling along as if it were a sunny day. Especially the assholes who think 4 wheel drive means “I can never skid!”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 19, 2022 • 10:55:34pm

You haven’t seen stupid until you have seen a Californian drive in the snow. OK, maybe Florida, but they don’t have mountains and cliffs.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2022 • 11:16:21pm

Found today’s wordle a real challenge; my standard approach had problems this time:

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 19, 2022 • 11:29:08pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

I’m less worried about my ability to deal with ice on the roads than I am about other drivers. I know my limitations and will not be on the road if I don’t feel capable, but I see way too many morons who are not only on the icy roads, but barreling along as if it were a sunny day. Especially the assholes who think 4 wheel drive means “I can never skid!”

So true — it can be terrifying especially when they decide to tailgate because you’re going too slow for them — or weaving in and out of traffic.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 19, 2022 • 11:34:21pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

I’m less worried about my ability to deal with ice on the roads than I am about other drivers. I know my limitations and will not be on the road if I don’t feel capable, but I see way too many morons who are not only on the icy roads, but barreling along as if it were a sunny day. Especially the assholes who think 4 wheel drive means “I can never skid!”

I remember driving 25 with chains and a 4WD passed me at 45. 200 yards ahead of me he abruptly turned 90 degrees and plowed into the hill on the side of the road and overturned. His gas tank emptied itself and when he got out beer cans spilled out onto the road.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2022 • 11:36:03pm

re: #63 Dread Pirate Ron

I remember driving 25 with chains and a 4WD passed me at 45. 200 yards ahead of me he abruptly turned 90 degrees and plowed into the hill on the side of the road and overturned. His gas tank emptied itself and when he got out beer cans spilled out onto the road.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 19, 2022 • 11:42:26pm

HE didn’t slide into that hill, he drove straight into it. That is the problem when a 4WD loses traction and regains it in the wrong direction.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 19, 2022 • 11:54:15pm

I took a helicopter from Juneau up to a glacier and had a chance to dogsled while on a cruise. I’d love to do it on a bigger scale but I’m not the kind of person that can treat working dogs as working dogs. They’d all sleep inside with me on my bed. When I camp in the snow my dog gets to share my sleeping bag.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 20, 2022 • 12:09:56am

re: #65 Dread Pirate Ron

HE didn’t slide into that hill, he drove straight into it. That is the problem when a 4WD loses traction and regains it in the wrong direction.

Locking hubs, great for the Rubicon Trail, kinda twitchy in mixed traction snow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 12:32:37am

re: #33 Sherlock Hound

I have 1200 hours in Euro Truck Simulator. I joked that I could be hired in the UK!
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They would be happy to have you over on a temporary basis until the HGV driver shortage is over and then kick you out again.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 20, 2022 • 12:35:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 12:36:42am

re: #66 Dread Pirate Ron

I took a helicopter from Juneau up to a glacier and had a chance to dogsled while on a cruise. I’d love to do it on a bigger scale but I’m not the kind of person that can treat working dogs as working dogs. They’d all sleep inside with me on my bed. When I camp in the snow my dog gets to share my sleeping bag.

Dit-a-rod, Dit-a-rod, Iditarod, Dit-a-rod, Dit-a-rod, Iditarod… (to the sound of the Beach Boys)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 20, 2022 • 12:39:25am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not that large of a scale!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 12:45:46am

re: #71 Dread Pirate Ron

Not that large of a scale!

“You’re my little poop scoop, you don’t know what I got…”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 20, 2022 • 12:53:06am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“You’re my little poop scoop, you don’t know what I got…”

When we moved to America when I was a wee kid we lived in Santa Barbara, circa 1961-1964, surfer music was all the rage. We moved to San Francisco area just in time for hippies and anti war protests. It was a bit like a Forrest Gump script, but on a smaller scale.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 20, 2022 • 12:54:29am

Oh, and the SLA lived down the street from me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 12:56:41am

re: #73 Dread Pirate Ron

When we moved to America when I was a wee kid we lived in Santa Barbara, circa 1961-1964, surfer music was all the rage. We moved to San Francisco area just in time for hippies and anti war protests. It was a bit like a Forrest Gump script, but on a smaller scale.

I used to hang out with a young woman who had attended the Woodstock festival…as an 11-month-old baby. I met her while working at the Athletics Department at Northern Arizona University. She was a trainer, which she basically did in order to rebel against her hippie mother…

She later realized her true nature and married a musician and settled in Durango, Colorado.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 12:58:24am

re: #74 Dread Pirate Ron

Oh, and the SLA lived down the street from me.

I once shared a TA’s office at the University of Arizona with Ken Weaver of The Fugs, a progressive experimental rock poet band that featured luminaries like Alan Ginsberg and a young Jackson Browne on their albums.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2022 • 1:12:39am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2022 • 3:01:28am
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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 3:13:30am
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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 3:14:00am

That took a lot of pretzel twisting

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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2022 • 3:18:55am

Fight me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 3:31:32am

re: #80 Dangerman

It is our moral duty to keep the local watering hole open for business…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 3:38:29am

Dry January is not necessarily about virtue, it is also about physical and mental health.

I turn into a good Catholic and go off meat during Lent, not out of any religious consideration, but just to clear my body of all the hormones and antibiotics that most modern meat is treated with.

And because then Easter breakfast with bacon and eggs really tastes incredible!!!

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2022 • 3:53:54am

It’s significantly more expensive, but you can avoid the hormones and antibiotics if your red meat is grass-fed and your poultry free-range (sadly, duck doesn’t seem to be available in free-range. Maybe because their wings actually work and they can leave?)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:06:29am

re: #84 sagehen

It’s significantly more expensive, but you can avoid the hormones and antibiotics if your red meat is grass-fed and your poultry free-range (sadly, duck doesn’t seem to be available in free-range. Maybe because their wings actually work and they can leave?)

yes, I would rather pay more for smaller quantities of better quality meat but we don’t eat much to begin with (once or twice a week) and usually just get what’s on sale at the discounter.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:07:52am

Not so bad today.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:20:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:32:16am

re: #87 Dopamine Fish

Today in “federal judges are not known for diplomacy or reserve”

He has no more Federal Fucks to give for the recalcitrantly unvaccinated.

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:34:05am

re: #87 Dopamine Fish

Imma file this under “Well, that’s gonna leave a mark…”

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:40:20am
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:41:54am
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:43:53am
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Ming5000  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:44:50am

Good point about Senator Schumer’s decision to hold the vote:

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:46:41am

re: #93 Ming5000

Good point about Senator Schumer’s decision to hold the vote:

That’s an excellent point. It’s all out on the table now. It’s very clear that Manchin, Sinema, and the 50 Senate Republicans are the obstacles to our democracy.

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Captain Magic  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:49:44am

BOOBIES!

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Ming5000  Jan 20, 2022 • 4:54:05am

re: #95 Captain Magic

BOOBIES!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:14:56am

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

Found today’s wordle a real challenge; my standard approach had problems this time:

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Yeah, I am struggling mightily with this one. I may not make it through. We’ll see. I will be back at it after my morning meetings.

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:15:04am

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:15:24am

re: #93 Ming5000

Good point about Senator Schumer’s decision to hold the vote:

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Makes it even more important for Wisconsin to put Moscow Ron on the unemployment line.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:17:29am

re: #79 Dangerman

Blackburn’s “rap sheet” shows she thinks the guy is Common, or Fiddy, or Tupac for all we know. She’s a racist moron.

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:18:47am

took me a while today…

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jeffreyw  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:24:59am

Good morning!

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:32:17am

re: #102 jeffreyw

“Waiter! Waiter!”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:36:27am

Wordle 215 4/6

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:37:28am

Dancing snowflakes here. Not likely to stick, much less last any length of time.

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darthstar  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:38:28am

re: #101 Egregious Philbin

took me a while today…

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My first miss
Wordle 215 X/6

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:40:57am

XOO
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Since you are all into sharing your games.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:47:52am

Wordle 215 5/6

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:48:11am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Dancing snowflakes here. Not likely to stick, much less last any length of time.

The morning’s air temperature was -15 °F (-26.1 C) this morning when I got up. I just took the garbage and recycling outside, and the subjective temperature test says, “Hella fucking cold.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:58:01am
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jeffreyw  Jan 20, 2022 • 5:58:15am

re: #84 sagehen

It’s significantly more expensive, but you can avoid the hormones and antibiotics if your red meat is grass-fed and your poultry free-range (sadly, duck doesn’t seem to be available in free-range. Maybe because their wings actually work and they can leave?)

Duck herding

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:01:16am

re: #110 The Pie Overlord!

The bill prohibits lessons that make kids feel “discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.”

What they mean is “anything that makes white people feel bad about their heritage”.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:02:16am
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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:03:04am

re: #96 Ming5000

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That heart rate chart is what happens when I watch a Shakira video. Those blips don’t lie.

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lawhawk  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:06:41am

re: #91 Belafon

Truly interesting stuff. I can honestly say that I did get side effects - you can’t really fake a fever (Bueller? Bueller?) in conjunction with the other symptoms. But it also throws into question most of the stuff being thrown into VAERS as claims that the vaccines are causing problems.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:07:14am

This is about the hysteria generated by the call for people to report symptoms. They do not rule out an attack in Havana.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:08:10am

re: #100 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Blackburn’s “rap sheet” shows she thinks the guy is Common, or Fiddy, or Tupac for all we know. She’s a racist moron.

Can’t qwhite put my finger on why a black man would be pulled over for going a bit above the speed limit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:12:37am

re: #117 BlueSpotinAL

Can’t qwhite put my finger on why a black man would be pulled over for going a bit above the speed limit.

It’s more of a wonder he got out of that situation alive…

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:15:38am

Why is trumps big lie so hard to discredit?

Thomas Edsall has written an essay that starts with that question and then goes on for another 3,000 words trying to answer it. But we’ll give you Edsall’s answer in one sentence: “It’s all about race.”

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steve_davis  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:16:46am

re: #51 Cheechako

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Yeah, this was my first try and I can tell already this is the crack cocaine of stupid word games.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:18:09am

re: #102 jeffreyw

It looks disappointed you didn’t set out a meal.

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lawhawk  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:21:22am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I understood that reference!
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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:22:56am
Georgia gubernatorial candidate David Perdue (R) “called for the creation of an election police unit in Georgia, echoing a proposal by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) and continuing Perdue’s focus on election falsehoods,” CNN reports

Here we go…

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jeffreyw  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:25:28am

re: #121 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It looks disappointed you didn’t set out a meal.

He got up on the wrong side of the picnic table.

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:26:43am

re: #95 Captain Magic

BOOBIES!

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Red-footed boobies!?! Why, you…. Red Team Traitor!! Moral and decent people give their allegiance to Blue-Footed Boobies.

Blue-Footed Boobies Mating Dance is the Best Thing Ever | The Dodo

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lawhawk  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:28:31am

re: #90 Belafon

That’s great news - and one more reason to hope that vaccinations for those under 2 can get approved soon.

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darthstar  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:37:53am

re: #126 lawhawk

That’s great news - and one more reason to hope that vaccinations for those under 2 can get approved soon.

What about the under 2 vaccine skeptics?

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darthstar  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:38:30am

Good morning…gotta jet. Need to walk the boys before taking Merle for an early drop at the vet…surgery day.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:40:44am

re: #115 lawhawk

Truly interesting stuff. I can honestly say that I did get side effects - you can’t really fake a fever (Bueller? Bueller?) in conjunction with the other symptoms. But it also throws into question most of the stuff being thrown into VAERS as claims that the vaccines are causing problems.

anecdotal, of course:

i have a friend who had a ‘reaction’ after the 2nd shot (i said after, not from)
arm pain and loss of strength. severe
initially she couldnt raise them above her head at all
it’s been 3 months or so and it’s still there
both arms

she won’t get the booster. no way no how.
also hasnt seen a doctor!!

i did a little googling and yeah, i know dont rely on webmd etc

still it sounds like SIRVA —- shoulder injury related to vaccine administration

that means she probably got jabbed in the wrong spot on the arm.
ie operator error, that could happen with any injection and has nothing to do with the vaccine

her mind has inextricably linked the two - correlation / causation - and there will be no talking her out of it. ever

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:43:36am

re: #119 Dangerman

Why is trumps big lie so hard to discredit?

A lot of people still believe it was a bad idea to expand the voting franchise beyond white, land-owning Protestant males.

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steve_davis  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:45:15am

re: #129 Dangerman

anecdotal, of course:

i have a friend who had a ‘reaction’ after the 2nd shot (i said after, not from)
arm pain and loss of strength. severe
initially she couldnt raise them above her head at all
it’s been 3 months or so and it’s still there
both arms

she won’t get the booster. no way no how.
also hasnt seen a doctor!!

i did a little googling and yeah, i know dont rely on webmd etc

still it sounds like SIRVA —- shoulder injury related to vaccine administration

that means she probably got jabbed in the wrong spot on the arm.
ie operator error, that could happen with any injection and has nothing to do with the vaccine

her mind has inextricably linked the two - correlation / causation - and there will be no talking her out of it. ever

can’t really blame her. i’ve been putting off the booster just from having been wiped out for two days after the second shot. If I couldn’t raise my fucking arms after the second for three months, I’d be like “fuck it. bring on the rona.”

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:47:14am

re: #2 prairiefire

Hey hey the Supremes voted against Trump!!11!

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:49:48am

re: #131 steve_davis

can’t really blame her. i’ve been putting off the booster just from having been wiped out for two days after the second shot. If I couldn’t raise my fucking arms after the second for three months, I’d be like “fuck it. bring on the rona.”

Putting off the booster while Covid is peaking to its highest infection rate of the entire pandemic is a bad idea. I’d urge you to go get a booster shot now.

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steve_davis  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:52:51am

re: #133 No Malarkey!

Putting off the booster while Covid is peaking to its highest infection rate of the entire pandemic is a bad idea. I’d urge you to go get a booster shot now.

yeah, i’m urging me to get the booster as well, but trying to explain it to myself rationally isn’t really helping that much. I’m probably just going to have to call for an appointment rather than thinking about doing it walk-in. If I have an appointment, I’ll treat it like a root canal and just say, “okay, gotta do it.”

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:53:19am

re: #124 jeffreyw

He got up on the wrong side of the picnic table.

My birds are pissed off this morning. I was going to buy some golden safflower seed yesterday but apparently there has been a crop failure due to drought and it won’t be available until next fall (if things go well). They’re looking at the regular white safflower and I can clearly tell they’re thinking “what is this crap?” Only good thing is that it may lower the number of House Sparrows at my feeder. Goldfinches are happy because they can still go over to their thistle feeder.

I don’t used mixed food because the birds just throw everything they don’t like on the ground to get to their favorite seeds.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:55:48am

re: #133 No Malarkey!

Putting off the booster while Covid is peaking to its highest infection rate of the entire pandemic is a bad idea. I’d urge you to go get a booster shot now.

The vaccine didn’t cause it
The needle went into the wrong part of the arm (I’m guessing)

If the vaccine did cause it she’d probably be the only person in the world to have this reaction

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:57:07am

re: #134 steve_davis

yeah, i’m urging me to get the booster as well, but trying to explain it to myself rationally isn’t really helping that much. I’m probably just going to have to call for an appointment rather than thinking about doing it walk-in. If I have an appointment, I’ll treat it like a root canal and just say, “okay, gotta do it.”

Good idea. You are on a device, so there is no reason you can’t make an appointment right now. Sorry if I sound bossy, but one of my coworkers died of Covid because she wasn’t vaccinated, and I feel a bit guilty that I didn’t try harder to convince her to do so.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:58:48am

“American”?
Wow

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2022 • 6:59:34am

re: #131 steve_davis

can’t really blame her. i’ve been putting off the booster just from having been wiped out for two days after the second shot. If I couldn’t raise my fucking arms after the second for three months, I’d be like “fuck it. bring on the rona.”

But I’d go see a doctor.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:00:25am

re: #137 No Malarkey!

Good idea. You are on a device, so there is no reason you can’t make an appointment right now. Sorry if I sound bossy, but one of my coworkers died of Covid because she wasn’t vaccinated, and I feel a bit guilty that I didn’t try harder to convince her to do so.

Don’t feel guilty. When people really want to be stupid, there’s nothing that can be done to save them.

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garzooma  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:00:37am

re: #13 Dangerman

..people who can’t vote in person and whose absentee ballot requests are denied…

…people whose voter registration applications are purposely mishandled…

Pictures would help, like this one from an NPR article Why Do Nonwhite Georgia Voters Have To Wait In Line For Hours? Too Few Polling Places:

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:02:44am

re: #138 Dangerman

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“American”?
Wow

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lawhawk  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:03:31am

re: #129 Dangerman

A situation where both arms are affected doesn’t sound like vaccination related - after all, you’re not vaccinated in both arms during one administration. There might be something entirely unrelated going on but she’s inexorably linked vaccine to the malady, and that also means she’ll have a problem going forward.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:04:15am

re: #140 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Don’t feel guilty. When people really want to be stupid, there’s nothing that can be done to save them.

Some, like my friend are just lousy at critical thinking.
Ignorance more than abject stupidity

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:04:42am

re: #140 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Don’t feel guilty. When people really want to be stupid, there’s nothing that can be done to save them.

I know that in my head; my heart says I should’ve tried harder.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:05:56am

re: #143 lawhawk

A situation where both arms are affected doesn’t sound like vaccination related - after all, you’re not vaccinated in both arms during one administration. There might be something entirely unrelated going on but she’s inexorably linked vaccine to the malady, and that also means she’ll have a problem going forward.

At least she got the two shots
And she cloisters up pretty well

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:06:12am

re: #138 Dangerman

Mitch: [citation needed]

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:08:59am

re: #134 steve_davis

yeah, i’m urging me to get the booster as well, but trying to explain it to myself rationally isn’t really helping that much. I’m probably just going to have to call for an appointment rather than thinking about doing it walk-in. If I have an appointment, I’ll treat it like a root canal and just say, “okay, gotta do it.”

Last fall I was supposed to get a root canal but I had a severe panic attack in the chair. I felt like I was being waterboarded (now I know I would tell them everything). They had to close it up and reschedule me for an extraction instead. It was a back molar so I’m doing ok without it.

Go get the shot. It’s not like a root canal.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:13:39am

re: #147 Dopamine Fish

Mitch: [citation needed]

I found it!

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:14:18am

re: #149 No Malarkey!

I found it!

Not what I meant, but thank you for that all the same.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:17:00am

What I take from this is that America is more attractive than China is.

They make some good points, but they also try to shift blame for COVID out of China, claiming it’s like the Spanish Flu.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:17:56am

re: #95 Captain Magic

BOOBIES!

I had no idea boobies came with red feet. Those are beautiful! Thanks for sharing!

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Ming5000  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:18:09am

re: #135 stpaulbear

I don’t used mixed food because the birds just throw everything they don’t like on the ground to get to their favorite seeds.

This is interesting. I don’t have a feeder now but would be curious to see a reduction of the discarded seeds. I always assumed birds were just sloppy or frantic in greed. I might have to apologize.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:20:57am
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garzooma  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:21:40am

re: #153 Ming5000

This is interesting. I don’t have a feeder now but would be curious to see a reduction of the discarded seeds. I always assumed birds were just sloppy or frantic in greed. I might have to apologize.

I was advised to use suet to avoid this problem.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:23:15am

re: #129 Dangerman

anecdotal, of course:

i have a friend who had a ‘reaction’ after the 2nd shot (i said after, not from)
arm pain and loss of strength. severe
initially she couldnt raise them above her head at all
it’s been 3 months or so and it’s still there
both arms

she won’t get the booster. no way no how.
also hasnt seen a doctor!!

i did a little googling and yeah, i know dont rely on webmd etc

still it sounds like SIRVA —- shoulder injury related to vaccine administration

that means she probably got jabbed in the wrong spot on the arm.
ie operator error, that could happen with any injection and has nothing to do with the vaccine

her mind has inextricably linked the two - correlation / causation - and there will be no talking her out of it. ever

When I got shot 3, I was fine on day 1, fine on day 2 but on day 3 and for about two weeks my arm hurt like crazy. I couldn’t lift my arm much and the area freaking hurt. Badly.

Would I get shots 4, 5, 6, etc., forever? ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY! Not a chance I would pass up on it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:24:31am

re: #132 No Malarkey!

I am curious if at any time anyone in any of these proceedings mentioned the Presidential Records Act. I mean, does that even mean anything any longer?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:25:34am

re: #134 steve_davis

yeah, i’m urging me to get the booster as well, but trying to explain it to myself rationally isn’t really helping that much. I’m probably just going to have to call for an appointment rather than thinking about doing it walk-in. If I have an appointment, I’ll treat it like a root canal and just say, “okay, gotta do it.”

This is my take…better sick than dead, or hospitalized or on a vent or ECMO or having to relearn to walk, talk, or eat.

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steve_davis  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:25:39am

re: #137 No Malarkey!

Good idea. You are on a device, so there is no reason you can’t make an appointment right now. Sorry if I sound bossy, but one of my coworkers died of Covid because she wasn’t vaccinated, and I feel a bit guilty that I didn’t try harder to convince her to do so.

well, i am vaxxed, so probably it won’t kill me. And I know it seems like a simple thing to persuade yourself about the booster, but the plusses and minuses aren’t really that simple in a practical sense. If it were “get the booster and you have a 95% of being able to walk around maskless while you suck in omicron from the maskless rednecks in walmart, and the process is completely hassle-free,” then of course I’d get the booster in the next ten minutes down at my local pharmacy. But at the moment, it’s “get the booster and you get some additional protection against omicron, but yes, you still may very well get the virus, and get sick as a dog for a week, but just not hospital-level sick, mostly. And to achieve that state, you just have to look forward to likely experiencing the same rotten symptoms you felt after you got the inarguably life-saving second dose of the vaccine.” Yes, I’ll get myself to do it, but it’s very, very easy to keep putting it off.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:27:27am

re: #148 stpaulbear

Last fall I was supposed to get a root canal but I had a severe panic attack in the chair. I felt like I was being waterboarded (now I know I would tell them everything). They had to close it up and reschedule me for an extraction instead. It was a back molar so I’m doing ok without it.

Go get the shot. It’s not like a root canal.

That is exactly why I do sedation dentistry. I suck at dealing with dental stuff (really, really bad experience once). Now, if they need to do anything but a cleaning, sedate my ass, please.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:28:59am

re: #134 steve_davis

yeah, i’m urging me to get the booster as well, but trying to explain it to myself rationally isn’t really helping that much. I’m probably just going to have to call for an appointment rather than thinking about doing it walk-in. If I have an appointment, I’ll treat it like a root canal and just say, “okay, gotta do it.”

I had 36 hours of ickiness after my second shot, nothing of consequence after my booster.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:31:12am

re: #159 steve_davis

well, i am vaxxed, so probably it won’t kill me. And I know it seems like a simple thing to persuade yourself about the booster, but the plusses and minuses aren’t really that simple in a practical sense. If it were “get the booster and you have a 95% of being able to walk around maskless while you suck in omicron from the maskless rednecks in walmart, and the process is completely hassle-free,” then of course I’d get the booster in the next ten minutes down at my local pharmacy. But at the moment, it’s “get the booster and you get some additional protection against omicron, but yes, you still may very well get the virus, and get sick as a dog for a week, but just not hospital-level sick, mostly. And to achieve that state, you just have to look forward to likely experiencing the same rotten symptoms you felt after you got the inarguably life-saving second dose of the vaccine.” Yes, I’ll get myself to do it, but it’s very, very easy to keep putting it off.

And in the time it took you to write that, you could’ve made an appointment. Don’t count on the prior two shots to keep you out of the hospital, and don’t assume Omicron is “mild” for everyone. Just stop thinking for a moment and make the appointment; the life you save could be your own, or someone else you come in contact with.

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Ming5000  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:32:40am

I sometimes wonder at the political disconnect many people seem to have on the current crisis. Below is a data point about economic disconnect. It seems a lot of people live in bubbles.

Interesting thread of responses on this.

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steve_davis  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:33:07am

re: #148 stpaulbear

Last fall I was supposed to get a root canal but I had a severe panic attack in the chair. I felt like I was being waterboarded (now I know I would tell them everything). They had to close it up and reschedule me for an extraction instead. It was a back molar so I’m doing ok without it.

Go get the shot. It’s not like a root canal.

yeah, I have to be careful at the dentist’s because I’m susceptible to panic attacks as well, and having them cut the lidocaine with adrenaline definitely will get the heart rate up. Funnily enough, I never panic (knock on wood) when they have to use the little tent to keep the tooth dry while they’re doing something complicated. In fact, I often lie there and have kind of an interesting time trying to guess what is going on based on the limited amount of feeling I may have (thankfully) in that part of the mouth.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:33:07am

re: #135 stpaulbear

The English sparrow colony (may they all suffer death) the lives in a neighbors Tulip Poplar, took about two weeks before they decided that white safflower seeds were acceptable — that experiment failed. They adapted

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:33:10am

re: #147 Dopamine Fish

Mitch: [citation needed]

there’s video

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:34:47am

re: #166 Dangerman

there’s video

Right. To you and the other poster upthread, what I meant was to address Mitch and tell him to provide a citation for his statistics. Because I’m calling BULLSHIT.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:36:39am

re: #167 Dopamine Fish

Right. To you and the other poster upthread, what I meant was to address Mitch and tell him to provide a citation for his statistics. Because I’m calling BULLSHIT.

ah.

it’s probably some twisted and perverse reading of something

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:37:44am

re: #159 steve_davis

Mind you, everyone who is saying to make that appointment NOW cares about you. We care about our fellow lizards. Go make the appointment. You can do it!

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:37:45am

re: #153 Ming5000

This is interesting. I don’t have a feeder now but would be curious to see a reduction of the discarded seeds. I always assumed birds were just sloppy or frantic in greed. I might have to apologize.

House Sparrows are super sloppy and greedy. Other birds less so. When I had a lot of feeders I’d try to use food or feeder setups that would discourage the House Sparrows.

I can see the House Sparrows tossing the white safflower out of the hanging tray feeder this morning trying to find the old stuff. Did I mention how much I hate House Sparrows?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:37:53am

re: #138 Dangerman

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“American”?
Wow

If he had said “Blacks vote in as high a percentage as Americans overall” that would make sense, but what he said really shines a light onto what he has hidden in his personal woodpile…

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lawhawk  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:42:03am

re: #163 Ming5000

Trump paid for a degree from Wharton… so there’s that. It hasn’t changed much if they’re that disconnected from facts and reality. They don’t teach how to read economic data like median and average household income? Or, they don’t care and simply think about their own families?

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:42:36am

My third guess was a hail Mary that paid off.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:43:11am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:44:43am

The Epoch Times tries to mislead its readers into thinking the vaccinated are more susceptible to Omicron than the unvaccinated. news.yahoo.com

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A Mom Anon  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:47:02am

re: #167 Dopamine Fish

I live in a really well off area in the suburbs. When we moved here it was pretty much basic working class houses built in the 60s ans 70s, now there are huge houses being built all around here. Our voting location is the elementary school my son attended. We can also vote early at a church and a couple of other locations. The longest I ever waited in line was 45 minutes the year Obama was elected the first time. In the less wealthy part of the county, we had lines you actually saw on national news. So the plan is to make that worse, yay. Also fucking asshat David Purdue wants to do what Deathsantis is proposing, an election police force. But Stacey Abrams is a strong candidate which is about the only thing keeping me from being totally depressed about all of this.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:49:06am

Taxpayer funded anti-semites deny foster parent training to Jewish couple. news.yahoo.com

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:51:27am

re: #163 Ming5000

I sometimes wonder at the political disconnect many people seem to have on the current crisis. Below is a data point about economic disconnect. It seems a lot of people live in bubbles.

Interesting thread of responses on this.

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Since I can’t read the thread at work, does she say what those students said when they found out most people make far less than six figures?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:52:50am

re: #177 No Malarkey!

Taxpayer funded anti-semites deny foster parent training to Jewish couple. news.yahoo.com

It violates their Religious Freedom to force them to train Christ Killers!

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:56:28am

re: #165 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The English sparrow colony (may they all suffer death) the lives in a neighbors Tulip Poplar, took about two weeks before they decided that white safflower seeds were acceptable — that experiment failed. They adapted

A guy from the MN DNR wrote a couple great books about backyard birds and best ways to feed them. In the section about House Sparrows, he actually said that you should feel free to trap them and kill them if they overwhelm your yard. They are incredibly harmful to native species.

True story: I had a feeder setup that actually worked at discouraging House Sparrows, but then my crazy neighbor noticed that they flocked in large groups that would all fly away in panic if anything disturbed them. He thought this would be a great warning system in case anyone was trying to break into his garage and steal his stuff, so he set out trying to attract as many House Sparrows as possible. I tried to let him know that wasn’t a good idea, but he threatened to call the cops because I was harassing him (I wasn’t).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 7:57:03am

re: #169 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Mind you, everyone who is saying to make that appointment NOW cares about you. We care about our fellow lizards. Go make the appointment. You can do it!

Just went online and applied for a booster appointment. Used to be a six-month wait, but then I found out that it had been reduced to just three months

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:12:16am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just went online and applied for a booster appointment. Used to be a six-month wait, but then I found out that it had been reduced to just three months

Mine is scheduled for Monday next week.

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Captain Magic  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:21:07am

Barf-o-riffic:

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:22:54am

re: #183 Captain Magic

Barf-o-riffic:

Iframe

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:27:21am

re: #183 Captain Magic

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:30:24am

re: #87 Dopamine Fish

Also, I posted the QT’d tweet in a chat, and got ” I’m not even in the USA and I can feel the burn from here.” back. And I concur, I’m in a friggid cold and windy Stockholm, Sweden, and I practically burned myself on that burn…

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:34:37am

Wordle 215 4/6*

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Would have actually been a total failure were i not adamant on staying in hard mode (forces you to use previously-discovered letters).

IW2EFeEFwdDx56r07R9C3f5A246x13K6l3yjzauIWDgbcdMzvCny62+e7+cIpHmGAtVQYWCBzlyXLbmf304MHJO6QDsSf23Bljh/TOUUuLXwCVD8vOEnCUFWgN6IRz7LteQ66W0K8WpCZKeGuN/EjuP55ueHMO5BEBk9ze0YIpQ=

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:36:17am

re: #187 (((Archangel1)))

Would have actually been a total failure were i not adamant on staying in hard mode (forces you to use previously-discovered letters).

V-I-A-G-R-A

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:36:18am

Its just a matter of time before a QAnon terrorist murders a healthcare worker.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:40:20am

re: #189 No Malarkey!

Its just a matter of time before a QAnon terrorist murders a healthcare worker.

That’s shouting “Kill the fireman!!” in a burning theater.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:41:46am

re: #102 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:42:41am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:44:32am

re: #190 Decatur Deb

That’s shouting “Kill the fireman!!” in a burning theater.

A new study shows that the “poison” they claim hospitals are using to kill patients, remdesivir, is safe and effective for treating covid patients. hopkinsmedicine.org

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:45:01am

re: #192 The Pie Overlord!

Another 14 words.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:45:41am

re: #192 The Pie Overlord!

NYPD is trying to identify this woman who marched up to Jewish children standing outside a Brooklyn synagogue and shouted “Hitler should have killed you all. I’ll kill you and know where you live”

When Adolf Hitler says “We are the master race!” and we say “Heil! Heil Heil!” right in a schoolkid’s face…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:47:22am

re: #193 No Malarkey!

A new study shows that the “poison” they claim hospitals are using to kill patients, remdesivir, is safe and effective for treating covid patients. hopkinsmedicine.org

It’s part of the mix they gave Trump, FFS.
cnn.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:47:43am

re: #170 stpaulbear

House Sparrows are super sloppy and greedy. Other birds less so. When I had a lot of feeders I’d try to use food or feeder setups that would discourage the House Sparrows.

I can see the House Sparrows tossing the white safflower out of the hanging tray feeder this morning trying to find the old stuff. Did I mention how much I hate House Sparrows?

When I still had a house and had a bird feeder out I just put out black oil sunflower seed. Not something that the house sparrows and mourning doves regularly ate, so I had very few of them at the feeder. Usual mix was house finch, cardinal, chickadee, tufted titmouse, nuthatch, and blue jays. When it snowed heavily the crows would come by as well.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:47:56am

re: #190 Decatur Deb

That’s shouting “Kill the fireman!!” in a burning theater.

Killing black cats in the middle of a rat-driven plague.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:51:23am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:52:55am
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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:54:15am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

Ghost dropped a new single:

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Video

The video feels kinda underwhelming, but the song is good. If maybe wearing its Metallica inspiration a bit too much on its sleeve

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:55:28am

re: #200 The Pie Overlord!

Ayn Rand offered a justification of us expropriating the continent from its natives.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:56:36am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s more of a wonder he got out of that situation alive…

Cops give out about 112,000 traffic tickets a day. I’d say he was pretty safe.

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Jay C  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:56:54am

re: #187 (((Archangel1)))

Wordle 215 4/6

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Not a problem for me today (six out of my ten wins have been 4/6): though it was an easier inspiration once I had eliminated the alternatives to the repeated letter.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:57:34am

re: #200 The Pie Overlord!

That’s great; our schools are promoting ethnic cleansing now.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 8:58:24am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ayn Rand offered a justification of us expropriating the continent from its natives.

Because they could.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:00:50am

Once again, what the NYT passes for ‘independent’ analysis and non-partisan perspective is almost wholly conservative grievance mongering extrapolated to absurdity.

EDIT:

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:00:58am

re: #205 No Malarkey!

That’s great; our schools are promoting ethnic cleansing now.

One tweeted question is not a promotion. It sounds dumb, but a good teacher could make it useful for discussion. (Note “different points of view” in the header.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:02:44am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

One tweeted question is not a promotion. It sounds dumb, but a good teacher could make it useful for discussion. (Note “different points of view” in the header.)

Yes, I would like to see that question in the context of the entire lesson.

And yes, Jackson most certainly received letters from people urging him to clear off the land for settlement.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:03:29am

re: #207 Citizen K

Once again, what the NYT passes for ‘independent’ analysis and non-partisan perspective is almost wholly conservative grievance mongering extrapolated to absurdity.

14 Trump voters are not ‘independents’, no matter what they fucking did before.

This nonsensical idea that someone voted for Donald fucking Trump out of some reasoned, measured analysis and their political decision making is thus somehow something that can be swayed by facts and debate has got to die.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:04:20am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, I would like to see that question in the context of the entire lesson.

And yes, Jackson most certainly received letters from people urging him to clear off the land for settlement.

He was mainstream for the day. Sort of helped make him president.

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:04:24am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:05:12am

re: #210 Renaissance_Man

14 Trump voters are not ‘independents’, no matter what they fucking did before.

We could be working into a good definition of “Rando”.

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:06:10am

re: #200 The Pie Overlord!

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And “Newman” is a social studies teacher. Sigh.

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darthstar  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:06:14am

Stephanie Grisham was a shitty press secretary (all of Trump’s were), but she stayed on working for Melania and paid attention to a lot of the criminal behavior apparently…

The secret meetings were apparently known by only a small number of aides, the sources said. Grisham recounted that they were mostly scheduled by Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and that the former chief usher, Timothy Harleth, would wave participants upstairs, the sources said.

Harleth, the former director of rooms at the Trump International Hotel before moving with the Trumps to the White House in 2017, was once one of the former first family’s most trusted employees, according to a top former White House aide to Melania Trump.

Original article at the Guardian

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:06:24am

re: #211 Decatur Deb

He was mainstream for the day. Sort of helped make him president.

Andrew Jackson was the sort of populist Trump modeled himself after.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:06:55am

re: #200 The Pie Overlord!

[Embedded content]

“Dear President,
You should run the Churkeys out and give us their stuff. Because if we steal stuff, we can have more stuff than if we had to, you know, work for it, since we don’t like to work and we need the dough we do get for booze.”

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:09:49am

re: #217 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

It makes you wonder if that school teaches their students that the Liberty Bell was named by abolitionists.
Students: “What’s an abolitionist?”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:10:39am

re: #214 BeachDem

And “Newman” is a social studies teacher. Sigh.

Those thinking patterns have to be explored if we’re ever going to find out where they come from and how to change them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:10:55am

re: #217 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

[Embedded content]

“Dear President,
You should run the Churkeys out and give us their stuff. Because if we steal stuff, we can have more stuff than if we had to, you know, work for it, since we don’t like to work and we need the dough we do get for booze.”

Don’t forget the reason that slavery was introduced in America: the original planters were too lazy to do the work themselves and too cheap to actually pay someone to do it. Plus the Native Americans they tried to force into labor would just run off into the wilderness and join other free Natives.

They needed to import people who were foreign to the region, less likely to r-u-n-n o-f-f-t and immediately identifiable as such.

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:11:13am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

Ghost dropped a new single:

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the musical guest on last night’s Colbert sounds like early 1980’s college radio

Nation of Language “Across That Fine Line”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:11:20am

re: #155 garzooma

I was advised to use suet to avoid this problem.

If you have Starlings or Grackels, they were can eat suet cakes very quickly. And the sparrows, again.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:12:18am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

One tweeted question is not a promotion. It sounds dumb, but a good teacher could make it useful for discussion. (Note “different points of view” in the header.)

I am dubious about giving children an assignment to promote genocide, which is what that question literally does. Its the same thing as asking them to write a letter to Der Fuhrer explaining why removing untermenschen from Poland and Russia will provide lebensraum to the Deutsche Volk.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:12:44am

This one was HARD, y’all!!

Wordle 215 5/6

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:13:33am

re: #210 Renaissance_Man

14 Trump voters are not ‘independents’, no matter what they fucking did before.

This nonsensical idea that someone voted for Donald fucking Trump out of some reasoned, measured analysis and their political decision making is thus somehow something that can be swayed by facts and debate has got to die.

But that would require them to believe that Dem voters are actually deserving to be considered American, and that seems to be totally anathema to their firmly held belief that conservative voices are simply too underepresented in politics….

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:14:06am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget the reason that slavery was introduced in America: the original planters were too lazy to do the work themselves and too cheap to actually pay someone to do it. Plus the Native Americans they tried to force into labor would just run off into the wilderness and join other free Natives.

They needed to import people who were foreign to the region, less likely to r-u-n-n o-f-f-t and immediately identifiable as such.

As an aside, quite a few of the Africans did run off and join the natives, especially in Florida and basically any true frontier area where there were free natives close by. Interesting heritage there.

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gocart mozart  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:15:12am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:16:05am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget the reason that slavery was introduced in America: the original planters were too lazy to do the work themselves and too cheap to actually pay someone to do it. Plus the Native Americans they tried to force into labor would just run off into the wilderness and join other free Natives.

They needed to import people who were foreign to the region, less likely to r-u-n-n o-f-f-t and immediately identifiable as such.

In this part of the country there was a great deal of running-off, a lot of escaped slaves joined the Southeast tribes. The tribes also included a share of whites who weren’t making it in 18th Cent. society. The British adopted a policy of encouraging and arming them as long as they held on to the Carolina and Florida backwoods.
en.wikipedia.org

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:18:20am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget the reason that slavery was introduced in America: the original planters were too lazy to do the work themselves and too cheap to actually pay someone to do it. Plus the Native Americans they tried to force into labor would just run off into the wilderness and join other free Natives die of smallpox and measles and typhus and cholera.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:20:12am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget the reason that slavery was introduced in America: the original planters were too lazy to do the work themselves and too cheap to actually pay someone to do it. Plus the Native Americans they tried to force into labor would just run off into the wilderness and join other free Natives.

They needed to import people who were foreign to the region, less likely to r-u-n-n o-f-f-t and immediately identifiable as such.

I also learned when I toured an old South Carolina rice plantation that they kidnapped Africans to work as slave labor because they knew how to cultivate rice. The plantation owners were parasites, dependent on both the labor and knowledge of better people than they were.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:20:31am

Wordle 215 3/6

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:20:42am

re: #227 gocart mozart

Like Thomas would ever admit that his wife is a traitor and that he is compromised.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:21:18am

re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg

Wordle 215 3/6

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Show off. :-(

;-)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:21:31am

re: #230 No Malarkey!

The plantation owners were parasites, dependent on both the labor and knowledge of better people than they were.

Modern day multimillionaire CEOs also fall into this category.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:22:52am

Wordle 215 3/6

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I get the feeling me and re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg were on similar wavelengths.

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Teukka  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:23:27am

WAT. IS THIS SRS?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:24:16am

re: #230 No Malarkey!

I also learned when I toured an old South Carolina rice plantation that they kidnapped Africans to work as slave labor because they knew how to cultivate rice. The plantation owners were parasites, dependent on both the labor and knowledge of better people than they were.

But we are not allowed to teach that because it might upset someone’s fee-fees…

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:26:17am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But we are not allowed to teach that because it might upset someone’s fee-fees…

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:28:57am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

One tweeted question is not a promotion. It sounds dumb, but a good teacher could make it useful for discussion. (Note “different points of view” in the header.)

I’d be okay with “what arguments did settlers use,” but making students put themselves into the role of the bad guys is a step too far. (“Write a letter to Adolph Hitler as a German bourgeois. Explain to him how you would benefit if ‘undesirables’ were removed from German cities.”)

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:31:41am
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steve_davis  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:31:55am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget the reason that slavery was introduced in America: the original planters were too lazy to do the work themselves and too cheap to actually pay someone to do it. Plus the Native Americans they tried to force into labor would just run off into the wilderness and join other free Natives.

They needed to import people who were foreign to the region, less likely to r-u-n-n o-f-f-t and immediately identifiable as such.

the reason I have occasionally seen in textbooks is that the Indians were simply not physically designed to work for hours at a time in brutally hot weather. Hence, the use of folks who routinely wandered around in 70% humidity with a blazing sun overhead. I don’t find slavery all that shocking, when it was practiced ecumenically by the greeks and romans. Owe more than you make? Hey, slavery. Had a bad business year and need to sell a child to pay debts? We’re here for you! But the whole “we enslave black people because blackness is clearly a mark of Cain” is just southern baptist bullshit.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:32:29am

Wow. Go for it I said!!

Wordle 215 3/6

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:33:18am

re: #239 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

I’d be okay with “what arguments did settlers use,” but making students put themselves into the role of the bad guys is a step too far. (“Write a letter to Adolph Hitler as a German bourgeois. Explain to him how you would benefit if ‘undesirables’ were removed from German cities.”)

The exercise assumes that the land-grabber was literate. If we want the Cherokee position, we could just read the newspaper they published here in 1828.

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steve_davis  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:33:19am

re: #224 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This one was HARD, y’all!!

Wordle 215 5/6

⬛⬛🟨⬛⬛
🟨🟨🟨⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
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wait, how did you get three right, but in the wrong place, but then completely fuck up the third line? :-)

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:33:36am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t forget the reason that slavery was introduced in America: the original planters were too lazy to do the work themselves and too cheap to actually pay someone to do it. Plus the Native Americans they tried to force into labor would just run off into the wilderness and join other free Natives.

They needed to import people who were foreign to the region, less likely to r-u-n-n o-f-f-t and immediately identifiable as such.

In the 17th century there weren’t enough settlers to do intensive farming themselves, lazy or otherwise.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:36:33am

re: #244 steve_davis

wait, how did you get three right, but in the wrong place, but then completely fuck up the third line? :-)

The third line was to find vowels or eliminate consonants. I use that as a strategy if I need help, which I obviously did because 1 and 2 were like…HUH? because of the letters in 1 and 2.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:37:39am

re: #229 sagehen

The death rate among European settlers was so high that they called it “the seasoning.” Meaning that if you lasted a season, you’d probably live, but large numbers didn’t.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:37:48am

Re 243: The Cherokee Phoenix, New Echota, GA.

georgiaencyclopedia.org

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IngisKahn  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:38:17am

re: #244 steve_davis

wait, how did you get three right, but in the wrong place, but then completely fuck up the third line? :-)

That’s actually the optimal strategy to guarantee winning

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:40:08am

re: #244 steve_davis

wait, how did you get three right, but in the wrong place, but then completely fuck up the third line? :-)

Some people strategize to post as many letters as they can early in the game rather than feeling a need to use letters they know are valid. I was surprised when I learned about that strategy. I can’t do it that way.

There’s an option called “hard mode” Wordle that forces you to use letters that have already been identified as being in the word, but you have to click a switch to set that option.

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:40:11am

re: #241 steve_davis

We’re here for you! But the whole “we enslave black people because blackness is clearly a mark of Cain” is just southern baptist bullshit.

um… Southern Baptists only came into existence in the 1830’s, and became an official denomination with their own leadership in the 1840’s. Because the original baptist-Baptists became a mostly abolitionist denomination, the Southerners couldn’t stand that so they schismed. They even invented a whole new theology, out-of-context literal line-reading etc., to be able to pretend the scripture justified what they’d already decided they wanted to do and just hoped they could pretend God approved.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:40:54am

re: #249 IngisKahn

That’s actually the optimal strategy to guarantee winning

I would NEVER waste a line!

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:42:54am

re: #219 Decatur Deb

Those thinking patterns have to be explored if we’re ever going to find out where they come from and how to change them.

It’s the framing. There are other ways to explore—kind of like the old “truth sandwich” approach.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:43:24am

re: #250 stpaulbear

Some people strategize to post as many letters as they can early in the game rather than feeling a need to use letters they know are valid. I was surprised when I learned about that strategy. I can’t do it that way.

I don’t use it often. But knowing vowels helps enormously when you’re stuck. And I always couple that with the most used consonants to maximize the move, since I know it will be a wasted word.

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IngisKahn  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:43:29am

re: #252 HRH Stanley Sea

I would NEVER waste a line!

Well, ya, if your goal is to try to get it in 1 or 2, then you wouldn’t want that. But there are plenty of 5 letter words that differ by only 1 letter and you could need more than 6 guesses to narrow it down.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:43:54am

re: #113 The Pie Overlord!

Unless Massie is lying (which is always possible and likely), he’s not vaccinated. He certainly has repeatedly demonstrated that even graduates of top universities can lack real judgement or sense. He’s already shown that he has no morals or ethics.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:45:03am

re: #255 IngisKahn

Well, ya, if your goal is to try to get it in 1 or 2, then you wouldn’t want that. But there are plenty of 5 letter words that differ by only 1 letter and you could need more than 6 guesses to narrow it down.

Which is where the luck I talked about yesterday comes into play.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:45:33am

re: #253 BeachDem

It’s the framing. There are other ways to explore—kind of like the old “truth sandwich” approach.

In the hands of a good teacher, it becomes like the HS debate approach—you’re going to have to examine both sides. That doesn’t mean both are right.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:45:41am

I’ve never gotten this view that the press sees conservative voters as exotic attractions as far as explaining away the hyper-specific focus on them. Folks like Dean Baquet have been as explicit as possible in the view that they see such things as finally letting ‘other voices’ be heard, because they’re just SO liberal, SO exclusionary toward other voices normally, the liberal voice SO overrepresented, that they just HAVE to do this for fairness’s sake.

It’s the ultimate in over-correction from a press that has internalized the idea that they are the real enemy to free speech because they oppress conservative voices too much.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:46:13am

Time portal opened…

Wordle 216 3/6

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
🟨⬛⬛🟨🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Jay C  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:47:13am

re: #246 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

re: #244 steve_davis

wait, how did you get three right, but in the wrong place, but then completely fuck up the third line? :-)

The third line was to find vowels or eliminate consonants. I use that as a strategy if I need help, which I obviously did because 1 and 2 were like…HUH? because of the letters in 1 and 2.

It can also work the other way: to eliminate vowels (easier, because there are only five of them). Today’s puzzle was a good example: that there was only one (duplicated) vowel left after 3 guesses made my stab at the fourth line more accurate - and correct, as it turned out.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:50:02am

re: #261 Jay C

[Embedded content]

I got lucky enough that I eliminated 3 out of the 4 vowels and had enough other verified letters to figure out that the 4th vowel just couldn’t fit with the letters I knew for sure.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:50:21am

The right-wing outrage du jour is that Bill Hemmer and Dana Perino interviewed Jen Psaki on Fox. Perino and Hemmer apparently did not conduct themselves like howler monkeys and Psaki articulately answered their questions. So, MAGAs are accusing Hemmer and Perino of asking softball questions. I’ve not seen the term RINO yet, but it’s coming.

I wish I could enjoy the marks turning on the cons but don’t feel comforted that the survival of American democracy depends on infighting by the right. They’ll all talk a good game, but ultimately vote a straight party ticket on election day.

Source: Raw Story

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:51:05am

re: #249 IngisKahn

That’s actually the optimal strategy to guarantee winning

I guess I don’t see it as optimal. I always play the “hard” version and I’ve never gone over 4 lines.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:53:06am

This gets a little more real—the Cherokee editor of their paper, Gallegina (Elias Boudinot), was a member of the pro-removal faction of the tribe. His brother, Stand Watie, was a slave-owner who became the last Confederate general to surrender.
georgiaencyclopedia.org

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:53:30am

re: #263 Teddy’s Person

The right-wing outrage du jour is that Bill Hemmer and Dana Perino interviewed Jen Psaki on Fox. Perino and Hemmer apparently did not conduct themselves like howler monkeys and Psaki articulately answered their questions. So, MAGAs are accusing Hemmer and Perino of asking softball questions. I’ve not seen the term RINO yet, but it’s coming.

I wish I could enjoy the marks turning on the cons but don’t feel comforted that the survival of American democracy depends on infighting by the right. They’ll all talk a good game, but ultimately vote a straight party ticket on election day.

Source: Raw Story

That kinda stuff gets a bitter laugh from me, especially when I saw folks on the left howling that Psaki showing up on Fox shows that Dems have learned nothing and are forever dunces. Usually from the same folks who ignored or praised Bernie’s appearances on Fox.

I still think it was a bad idea, but I just want fucking consistency from everyone.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:53:51am

re: #249 IngisKahn

That’s actually the optimal strategy to guarantee winning

Right. A strategy to eliminate letters will get you to the correct end-of-life, but won’t get you the intuitive that will result in a two or three.

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darthstar  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:54:23am

re: #240 The Pie Overlord!

Testify against daddy, Vanky.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:57:31am

re: #261 Jay C

Spoilerish. Kinda.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 20, 2022 • 9:59:59am

re: #268 darthstar

Testify against daddy, Vanky.

If any of the Trump spawn turn on daddy, it will be Ivanka. Junior and Eric are still trying to make daddy love them.

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Jay C  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:00:25am

re: #269 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

d6eYXQb+h2NRIQJZnwnSKaajYBo9MRollRes/kW8Cp1HvJW2lx5M6TYewdkF4mJR+XGyCI6H4ESMSaQrdjUvx5RSEBXxL2cAFkBEF5SEqiCn5FywZFl3zVguXENHnQiOmFEfvfPfKkt5/sB7ShGVE2ppdmfPAM4RFN/pEkEUeMKF7QsS1uHTHOLB5cD4D6sV

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:01:52am

re: #271 Jay C

tIs9zGnPR1TImqkIp/RKBB1F78UW41JnvtTkGwE7kmqjRB8yXcr0N97q39UEffewTV525WbajoZS821JV1qJBW7oqP2sVzXyUAho+WCbcyhQcfLwGBjYoDki8M1rvnggbZsdtbeezKdFQ7xvFXAv5B4oZDv1T6KKvKHmbeh06nKkdLgyjqA5Ga8IGw44aeTVYBmJBWmm4Ogp2EN8cf5zvQ==

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:06:20am
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jaunte  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:06:33am
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jaunte  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:07:44am
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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:07:55am

re: #257 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Which is where the luck I talked about yesterday comes into play.

My process: do not attempt 1st thing in the day, get quality coffee input. Then I try to take my sweet time. Ha.

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Ming5000  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:11:56am

re: #178 Belafon

Since I can’t read the thread at work, does she say what those students said when they found out most people make far less than six figures?

No, she never gave more information about the circumstances of her asking or about what the further, if any, discussions were.

Someone did post this golden oldie:
pbs.twimg.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:14:27am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:18:53am

re: #276 HRH Stanley Sea

My process: do not attempt 1st thing in the day get quality coffee input. Then I try to take my sweet time. Ha.

Maybe that’s where I went wrong. I was still lying in bed when I started WORDLE this morning.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:19:23am

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:21:02am

re: #258 Decatur Deb

In the hands of a good teacher, it becomes like the HS debate approach—you’re going to have to examine both sides. That doesn’t mean both are right.

It reminds me too much of the current treks to rural diners to hear what “hurt” Republicans are feeling. Again, it’s not the question, it’s the framing—perhaps something like:

The genocide of Native Americans was an unforgivable, heinous act which left a lifelong stain on American history. What bogus crap did the settlers tell themselves to justify their selfish, ugly actions.

Too harsh?//

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:23:27am

re: #119 Dangerman

Why is trumps big lie so hard to discredit?

Let’s not excuse the pre-Trump Republican party for its role in creating Trump. The election of Obama showed that a majority of voters were willing to moving past our historical racial divide. McConnell made clear in 2008 that he wanted to make Obama a one term president. The vile racism that always percolated in the background appeared in the open after Obama was first elected. Trump did not create birtherism; he wasn’t the one who promoted the notion that Obama was alien to American culture. You had GOP stalwarts like Gingrich ranting about that in 2010. Indeed, the GOP created Trump; he encapsulates their ideology. Their only real objection is how coarse he is in promoting their dishonesty. The only Trump policy that seems distinct from the typical Republican principles is his deference and worship of Putin; but there has long been a strain of isolationism in the GOP and Trump revived it. Putin is an oligarch who brooks no opposition and runs a white-only kleptocracy so he is the ideal model for the modern Republican Party.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:24:44am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:28:21am

That was a hard one.

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garzooma  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:29:54am

Wordle 215 4/6

🟩⬜⬜⬜⬜
🟨🟩⬜⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟨🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:31:10am

re: #281 BeachDem

It reminds me too much of the current treks to rural diners to hear what “hurt” Republicans are feeling. Again, it’s not the question, it’s the framing—perhaps something like:

The genocide of Native Americans was an unforgivable, heinous act which left a lifelong stain on American history. What bogus crap did the settlers tell themselves to justify their selfish, ugly actions.

Too harsh?//

We need to know those arguments, and the psychology behind them, if we are ever to counter them. The problem with the exercise, if it’s being truly reported, is that it’s easy meat for partisan attacks on the schools that use it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:31:14am

re: #245 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

In the 17th century there weren’t enough settlers to do intensive farming themselves, lazy or otherwise.

not without forced immigration.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:31:17am

re: #280 Dangerman

[Embedded content]

I think Sinema’s statement should be moved to Manchin, with Sinema saying “Look at all those Senators who congratulated me.”

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:31:26am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:32:34am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not without forced immigration.

Guns and chains worked in Africa, starvation in Europe and Ireland.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:33:00am

re: #288 Belafon

I think Sinema’s statement should be moved to Manchin, with Sinema saying “Look at all those Senators who congratulated me.”

re: #289 Dangerman

9 seconds

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:33:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:34:25am

re: #270 Teddy’s Person

If any of the Trump spawn turn on daddy, it will be Ivanka. Junior and Eric are still trying to make daddy love them.

She could not talk sense into him last January 6th, why should she even try to tell him anything now?

294
jaunte  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:36:20am
295
jaunte  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:37:14am
A remarkably flat conspiracy.

Like a family business.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:38:08am

re: #294 jaunte

Not even one degree. He roused the rabble face-to-face before he abandoned them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:38:09am

re: #290 Decatur Deb

Guns and chains worked in Africa, starvation in Europe and Ireland.

the latter was forced emigration

and don’t forget the Highland Clearances. Heck those people paid for their own passage to leave the lands they had been turned off of.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:39:16am

re: #296 Decatur Deb

Not even one degree. He roused the rabble face-to-face before he abandoned them.

…after promising them “I’ll be with you!”

I will never forgive or forget those words.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:39:44am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the latter was forced emigration

and don’t forget the Highland Clearances. Heck those people paid for their own passage to leave the lands they had been turned off of.

Too many tarried in Belfast.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:40:42am

To hear it reported (ironically enough from ‘both sides’), it’s instead Dems making big claims for bipartisanship out of the ether and unprompted, and media simply reporting those fantastic claims and then neutrally reporting the failures of bipartisanship in ways that, conveniently enough, lay the blame for its failures on Dems. Never on Republicans who get rewarded for being an unmoving monolith.

Dems play the game on the field they have, even as unfair as it fucking is, because when they do try to pave things another way and set the narrative themselves, they get shitkicked in the face by the media gatekeepers who scream “NO, you play by the story we make or we’ll bury your careers in our coverage!”. The same coverage that privileges Republicans just for fucking existing.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:41:07am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:42:25am

re: #167 Dopamine Fish

Right. To you and the other poster upthread, what I meant was to address Mitch and tell him to provide a citation for his statistics. Because I’m calling BULLSHIT.

May not be an unbiased study, but here’s a report that says the opposite: brennancenter.org

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:43:16am

I thought something was off about that “Gorsuch refused to wear a mask around Sotomayor” story, and now they’ve issued a statement denying it ever happened.

But there’s a small part of me that still wonders if Supreme Court justices would lie about something like this just to shut down a controversy.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:44:29am

re: #200 The Pie Overlord!

All I want in this creation,
is a pretty little wife and a big plantation,
way up north in the Cherokee Nation.

A song popular in Georgia just before the Trail of Tears.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:45:51am

re: #303 Charles Johnson

I thought something was off about that “Gorsuch refused to wear a mask around Sotomayor” story, and now they’ve issued a statement denying it ever happened.

But there’s a small part of me that still wonders if Supreme Court justices would lie about something like this just to shut down a controversy.

Considering their current reputation, especially of the three newest Justices? I’m not terribly inclined to give benefit of the doubt.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:46:06am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

My wife has to work in the Kentucky Capitol Building where these idiots are swaggering around maskless spewing virus in the air.

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austin_blue  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:46:37am

So Russia may try to fuck around in Ukraine, daring Europe to do something about it.

They just may find out, throwing the world into a Nuclear Exchange.

CNN Business headline:

cnn.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:47:57am

re: #305 Citizen K

Considering their current reputation, especially of the three newest Justices? I’m not terribly inclined to give benefit of the doubt.

And therein lies a big, huge, major issue.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:49:34am

re: #303 Charles Johnson

I thought something was off about that “Gorsuch refused to wear a mask around Sotomayor” story, and now they’ve issued a statement denying it ever happened.

But there’s a small part of me that still wonders if Supreme Court justices would lie about something like this just to shut down a controversy.

Roberts may be saying he didn’t ask Gorsuch because he in fact asked everyone to mask up without specifically directing the request to Gorsuch. Roberts is a master at twisting the meaning of words.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:49:39am

re: #308 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And therein lies a big, huge, major issue.

One that only the ruling majority on the Court and the hacks that got them there have themselves to blame for.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:50:27am

re: #304 Romantic Heretic

All I want in this creation,
is a pretty little wife and a big plantation,
way up north in the Cherokee Nation.

A song popular in Georgia just before the Trail of Tears.

The next middling town North of us is Eufaula. There’s another Eufaula in Oklahoma, for a reason.

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IngisKahn  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:50:41am

re: #264 stpaulbear

I guess I don’t see it as optimal. I always play the “hard” version and I’ve never gone over 4 lines.

Consider if the word were TARES, you could guess WARES, PARES, DARES, FARES, HARES, CARES, BARES… wait, you lost.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 20, 2022 • 10:54:29am

re: #251 sagehen

Humans are always looking for excuses to do evil.

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Dangerman  Jan 20, 2022 • 11:03:17am

re: #313 Romantic Heretic

Humans are always looking for excuses to do justify evil.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2022 • 11:07:40am

re: #303 Charles Johnson

I thought something was off about that “Gorsuch refused to wear a mask around Sotomayor” story, and now they’ve issued a statement denying it ever happened.

But there’s a small part of me that still wonders if Supreme Court justices would lie about something like this just to shut down a controversy.

NPR reported that. They also said, “NPR stands by its reporting”. I will believe them over the Chief Justice every day.


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