A Chilling, Quick-Escalating Short Horror Film: “Safe and Sound”

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While babysitting a precocious 6 year old, Mia is stalked by a shadowy presence that trips the home security system.

“Safe and Sound” by Ian Kammer

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Connect with the Filmmaker:
http://www.iankammer.com/
https://www.instagram.com/iamkammer

More About “Safe and Sound”:
As seismic activity increases in Los Angeles, Mia, a teenage babysitter, spends the night watching Holden, a precocious six-year-old with a love of hide and seek. After a small earthquake rattles the house, a shadowy presence beings to stalk them, setting off the house’s security system, which beeps whenever a door or window is opened. The night unfolds into horror as the veil of safety dissipates

“Safe and Sound” Credits:
Co-written and Directed by Ian Kammer

Cast:
Charlie Morgan Patton as Mia
Tristan Riggs as Holden
Christopher Thomas Copeland as Brian
Maranda Barskey as News Anchor
Mark Stancato as Reporter

Crew:
Co-writer and Composer: Joshua Storms
Cinematographer: Justin Gurnari
Sound Design: Zak DeVires
Unit Production: Manager Fanny Pierre
First Assistant: Director Nick Mann
Colorist: Daniel Silverman
First Assistant Camera: Jared Wennberg
Stedicam Operator: Niels Lindelien
Creature & Environmental VFX: Josh Suyemoto
Compositing Artists: Egor Rezichenko, Rohaman Sabbir

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346 comments
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Teddy's Person  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:06:00pm

Ivanka’s PR team is on it.

“Ivanka has basically dumped her brothers,” a source exclusively tells [gossip rag] OK!. “She doesn’t want to be part of the family business anymore or even the controversial family. Her future is with her husband, Jared Kushner, and her kids. They are out of politics and won’t be campaigning with her father anymore or defending him on TV.”

The Kushner’s have their billions. The Trump boys go under the bus.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:06:59pm

My new counter-height table. I bought the top online from a place that makes tables out of recycled wood. I got the legs and swivel chairs on Amazon. My dad and I built the cabinet on the end and I attached a power strip on each side:

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nines09  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:07:05pm

Holding on to Summer

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:09:39pm

re: #1 Teddy’s Person

Ivanka’s PR team is on it.

The Kushner’s have their billions. The Trump boys go under the bus.

The Clinton operatives have gotten to her /////

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Jay C  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:12:34pm

re: #1 Teddy’s Person

“Ivanka has basically dumped her brothers,” a source exclusively tells [gossip rag] OK!. “She doesn’t want to be part of the family business anymore or even the controversial family. Her future is with her husband, Jared Kushner, and her kids. They are out of politics and won’t be campaigning with her father anymore or defending him on TV.”

Well, Ivanka was always cited as the “smart one” in the Trump family (low bar to hurdle, indeed, but she clears it)……

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:12:44pm

Meradalir volcano from yesterday - the northern most vent still active built itself a little pizza oven of a cone (that by today has totally closed in.) Northwest notch of the valley now has new lava totally covering the old (2021) lava, but the eastern portion of the valley still has lobes that the new lava has yet to cover.

Near the end you can see the Geldingadalir volcano hovering several hundred feet above the current one. It’s going to take a while for the young volcano to reach that size:

Youtube Video

..

Best entertainment on the planet and it’s free.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:14:11pm
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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:20:11pm

Detailed background thread:

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A Cranky One  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:27:56pm

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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:32:19pm

re: #1 Teddy’s Person

Ivanka’s PR team is on it.

The Kushner’s have their billions. The Trump boys go under the bus.

Hoping that if they run away hard enough, they won’t get charged too. But if nothing else, Jared was the bag man and part of the espionage ring. But Ethel didn’t do squat (even in the most recent revelations) and still got to visit Old Sparky too.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:35:28pm

ABC is actually reporting the part about a lawyer signing off in June that Trump had turned over everything and that it’s false.

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nines09  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:35:52pm

re: #9 A Cranky One

Why was my casket so heavy? Huh? Huh?

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:48:19pm

re: #11 Belafon

They also mentioned that the FBI is receiving threats.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:53:50pm

Oops. CL’d.

re: #45 steve_davis

Just watched Prey on Hulu. Damn, that was actually worthwhile. It isn’t gonna win an Academy Award, but if you want some very decent action with a Predator movie, it ain’t bad at all.

I watched in English the first time. I got so much more out of it with her Comanche dub. You should try that if you haven’t.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:54:49pm

If some Proud Boy neckbeards do try to stage an organized attack on an FBI building somewhere, it won’t go well for them. I guarantee the FBI is readier for a situation like that than they are.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:57:32pm

re: #13 Belafon

They also mentioned that the FBI is receiving threats.

These domestic terrorists are just begging to find out. They will too.

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:57:37pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2022 • 3:58:28pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

If some Proud Boy neckbeards do try to stage an organized attack on an FBI building somewhere, it won’t go well for them. I guarantee the FBI is readier for a situation like that than they are.

“You mean there’s no re-spawn points in real life?!”

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:00:09pm
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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:01:22pm

Because of a shared video, there’s been an increase in car thefts of Kia and Hyundai cars. Cars that have a push button start can be started without a key using a USB cable.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:03:44pm

But that chud who did try to attack the FBI a few days ago was also trying to get others to join him. Nobody showed up, and he didn’t survive the encounter. I think that’s going to be the most common neckbeard reaction.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:06:30pm

re: #10 William Lewis

But Ethel didn’t do squat (even in the most recent revelations) and still got to visit Old Sparky too.

Are you sure of that? I seem to remember reading that it was the other way around.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:07:23pm

Reuters had no trouble identifying the terrorist yokels whose threats forced MTG’s opponent to quit the race. It should therefore be easy for federal law enforcement to identify quite a few of the goobers making threats against the FBI, Judge Rinehart, and his synagogue. They should be arrested in a series of high profile, middle of the night, no knock raids, complete with ninja suits, accompanying media, and battering rams. This is well within the law and hasn’t been done solely because of right wing sensibilities. Fuck them, war is here, let the gloves come off. If they resist, so much the better.

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:09:19pm
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:12:12pm

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Reuters had no trouble identifying the terrorist yokels whose threats forced MTG’s opponent to quit the race. It should therefore be easy for federal law enforcement to identify quite a few of the goobers making threats against the FBI, Judge Rinehart, and his synagogue. They should be arrested in a series of high profile, middle of the night, no knock raids, complete with ninja suits, accompanying media, and battering rams. This is well within the law and hasn’t been done solely because of right wing sensibilities. Fuck them, war is here, let the gloves come off. If they resist, so much the better.

As long as they get the right addresses and refrain from shooting sleeping bystanders.

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:12:25pm

My little Texas graphic has made it over to Texas Democrats:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:13:42pm

re: #24 jaunte

And she’s telling us now….

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No Malarkey!  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:17:42pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:22:32pm

The radical right’s bullshit to action ratio must be the highest of any large group in human history. There are literally millions of gun humping Repugs out there, shaking with rage, flinging spittle and posting blood curdling threats at the rate of thousands per minute. Yet only a handful, perhaps a dozen, are willing to put their lives on the line and back up those threats. Thousands showed up on 1-6 only because they had it from the highest authority, Cheeto himself, that their actions had official approval and would therefore be safe.

I think it’s a mistake to be afraid of provoking them. If a bully has to back down publicly, his bullying loses power. Having declared the other side’s actions intolerable, the more they rage without taking action, the more power they lose.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:24:42pm

re: #3 nines09

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Tonight was pretty vegetarian for us. Corn on the cob from a local farm, watermelon and assorted nuts (almonds, pecans, and pistachios). I did have a couple venison jerky strips that my buddy had given me.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:24:59pm

re: #25 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

As long as they get the right addresses and refrain from shooting sleeping bystanders.

I think the FBI can manage that. Actually I think yokel police could too if they really wanted to.

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A Cranky One  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:25:10pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:25:51pm

re: #24 jaunte

Has she said that previously, or is this a new revelation as the traitors try to distance themselves from Trump now? If the latter, she’s simply a cowardly and spineless toady and not any sort of patriot.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:32:45pm

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Reuters had no trouble identifying the terrorist yokels whose threats forced MTG’s opponent to quit the race. It should therefore be easy for federal law enforcement to identify quite a few of the goobers making threats against the FBI, Judge Rinehart, and his synagogue. They should be arrested in a series of high profile, middle of the night, no knock raids, complete with ninja suits, accompanying media, and battering rams. This is well within the law and hasn’t been done solely because of right wing sensibilities. Fuck them, war is here, let the gloves come off. If they resist, so much the better.

Youtube Video

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:33:49pm

The comments of course are shit.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:36:59pm

Looks like my younger daughter, circa 1988.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:37:18pm

re: #34 Eventual Carrion

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There’s the endorsement we need. How could they complain? (Actually, of course, they will whine and caterwaul to high heaven if white people are targeted for this kind of treatment.)

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:38:27pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:40:30pm

re: #35 gocart mozart

The comments of course are shit.

Same with the news that Alec Baldwin definitively pulled the trigger that killed his crew member on set. There is no attention to facts. Just a swarm of maggots. (And I’m not a fan of Alec Baldwin, tbh.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:48:58pm
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:54:10pm

re: #40 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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It’s actually pretty funny that Charles’ no phone numbers policy carries over into the tweets he renders. (Reload to see the actual numbers.)

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:57:37pm

re: #41 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

It’s actually pretty funny that Charles’ no phone numbers policy carries over into the tweets he renders. (Reload to see the actual numbers.)

Yeah, the reload button causes Twitter to render its own embedded tweet, instead of my custom code. You can also use this to see the number of likes and replies, by the way.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2022 • 4:58:14pm
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:08:25pm

Spent the afternoon at the county fair with fishfolk. It was a good time. Cute animals, some beautifully restored antique tractors, a decent amount of junk food, and ice cream at the local Dairy Queen to top it all off. Now relaxing and winding up their visit, as they head home back to fish country early tomorrow morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:09:44pm
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No Malarkey!  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:11:25pm

Fox News viewers getting some exposure to truth

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gwangung  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:11:52pm

Hmmm…I should let the rest of the lizards know that a play I wrote will have its opening tonight. Here’s a trailer for it…

Youtube Video

There will be video on demand in September….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:13:04pm

re: #5 Jay C

Well, Ivanka was always cited as the “smart one” in the Trump family (low bar to hurdle, indeed, but she clears it)……

she’s probably the only one pissed off about mom being buried in the horrible grave at the golf couse

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No Malarkey!  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:18:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:24:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:27:16pm

as I recall, allegro’s bird did something similar…including throwing sharp implements from the silverware drawer…

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:30:02pm

lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:32:00pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:33:23pm

re: #47 gwangung

Hmmm…I should let the rest of the lizards know that a play I wrote will have its opening tonight. Here’s a trailer for it…

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Video

There will be video on demand in September….

Awesome! Best of luck with this! Let us know where we can see the finished product.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:35:48pm

re: #1 Teddy’s Person

A source? Let’s wait and see what actually happens. I find it hard to believe that the only child he actually loves wouldn’t campaign for him.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:36:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:36:39pm
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retired cynic  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:37:50pm

re: #47 gwangung

Hmmm…I should let the rest of the lizards know that a play I wrote will have its opening tonight. Here’s a trailer for it…

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Video

There will be video on demand in September….

This sounds really great! I have enjoyed your voice here, and it was good to attach it to you yourself. I would be delighted to pay to see the video, and wish you all the best with the production!

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sagehen  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:39:21pm

re: #14 GlutenFreeJesus

Oops. CL’d.

I watched in English the first time. I got so much more out of it with her Comanche dub. You should try that if you haven’t.

does the Comanche dub have English subtitles?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:42:22pm
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Teukka  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:43:58pm
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Teukka  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:44:28pm

Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:45:03pm
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Teukka  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:45:19pm

Night musics. Dedicated to Trump and Team Trump:

Infected Mushroom - U R So Fucked [HD]

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retired cynic  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:46:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:46:24pm
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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:48:16pm

re: #49 No Malarkey!

Oh lordy there are tapes!

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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:51:23pm

re: #47 gwangung

Very cool. I would love to see it.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:53:09pm

re: #62 Teukka

Again Beau is hitting the nail squarely on the head. DT can say whatever he wants that is not going to change what was in those documents.

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Teukka  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:54:47pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

Again Beau is hitting the nail squarely on the head. DT can say whatever he wants that is not going to change what was in those documents.

One of the reasons I always hear him out…

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:56:01pm

re: #71 Teukka

Yes. Me too. And that is why he is one of the people whom I follow on Twitter.

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Teukka  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:57:54pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 13, 2022 • 5:58:04pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:00:33pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

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Every time I see a Repug stooge posts some of this denialist misdirection, I wonder what is in the docs that they think would implicate them personally. Hannity and Paul have been especially loud and crazy about it.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:02:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:03:15pm
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darthstar  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:06:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:07:08pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:09:04pm

jeebus

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darthstar  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:14:08pm

It’s a fucking cult.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:14:27pm
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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:16:05pm

Rigor Morse is trending. Own it Trumpers. You built that.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:16:22pm

re: #59 sagehen

does the Comanche dub have English subtitles?

It does. Closed captions so brace yourself for *wind blowing/birds chirping* and the like. But to me it made the movie so much better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:17:14pm

niterz, lizardz!

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darthstar  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:17:26pm

No! Not Melanie!

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:21:15pm

re: #65 retired cynic

I saw that in Avatar.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:22:12pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Now playing… Great fun.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:24:43pm

re: #52 gocart mozart

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darthstar  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:26:57pm

Was at our local dog friendly bar for snacks today and looking at the new stage backdrop. The owner came and told us his dog had passed (he was admiring Milo as he looked a bit like the house border collie)…he said he just adopted a new puppy and talked about the guy who did the backdrop (his father was a set designer for Lucas & Spielberg).

He’s hoping to get Neil Young back because of the ‘harvest moon’ component (Neil’s played at the bar 14 times). But the unveiling will be August 26th…The Mother Hips (I bought six tickets so I’d have extras to share)…nice thing is this place is walking distance from our house.

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darthstar  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:29:12pm

re: #89 GlutenFreeJesus

Oh you know it. ‘Look, Sean! I’ve got all kinds of things…defense inventory, nuclear docs…they don’t just let anyone have this!’
‘Nuclear? Let me see…wow…this is some top secret stuff.’

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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:30:52pm

I heard Nate Silver was an asshole but now I’ve seen it in action.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:35:02pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:36:50pm

It looks like the FBI and DHS aren’t taking the wingnuts’ frothing rage lightly:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:38:12pm

How come whenever I see tweets about Ted Cruz spewing bullshit he’s never actually IN Texas??

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:40:27pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

How come whenever I see tweets about Ted Cruz spewing bullshit he’s never actually IN Texas??

I’m sorry, you thought he represented Texas? Rafael Cruz is one of the senators from the Great State of Denial.

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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:41:22pm

I remember the FBI report 15 years ago about homegrown terrorism most likely to be right wing and wingnuts clutched their pearls bigly. I watched compilations of videos on TikTok from wingnuts making threats and hurr durr durr Civil War is here/coming. Thirty years of right wing grievance and conspiracy theories have broken people’s brains and I’m not sure we’ll come back from the precipice.

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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:41:47pm

re: #96 Dopamine Fish

I’m sorry, you thought he represented Texas? Rafael Cruz is one of the senators from the Great State of Denial.

Golf Clap

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2022 • 6:42:44pm

I wouldn’t be surprised to see this short film get picked up for a feature. It’s a cut above the usual, and it leaves you wanting more.

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austin_blue  Aug 13, 2022 • 7:06:38pm

re: #44 Dopamine Fish

Spent the afternoon at the county fair with fishfolk. It was a good time. Cute animals, some beautifully restored antique tractors, a decent amount of junk food, and ice cream at the local Dairy Queen to top it all off. Now relaxing and winding up their visit, as they head home back to fish country early tomorrow morning.

And all of the food (all of it!) is available on a fucking stick.

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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2022 • 7:15:30pm

This Newsweek story seems click baity and a lot of people are running with it.
Exclusive: Trump Raid Documents Could Reveal Informants on U.S. Payroll

In pursuing the unprecedented search of Donald Trump’s residence on Monday, the FBI was seeking to retrieve Top Secret and “compartmented” documents dealing with intelligence “sources and methods,” two federal government sources tell Newsweek—documents with the potential to reveal U.S. intelligence sources, including human sources on the American government payroll.

*could* reveal. It could reveal anything. People are running with it as *does* reveal.

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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2022 • 7:21:22pm

One thing in that Newsweek article is pretty clear to me. The National Archives and others gave them multiple opportunities to cough all the stuff back up. They didn’t. In June they went back in and got a few more things but they probably knew what they were looking for and didn’t get them, or only got a little. Then the DOJ went quiet with Trump’s camp until Monday when they showed up. They knew.

Trump could have gotten away with another law breaking activity but his own vanity wouldn’t allow him to escape unscathed.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2022 • 7:24:23pm

re: #10 William Lewis

Hoping that if they run away hard enough, they won’t get charged too. But if nothing else, Jared was the bag man and part of the espionage ring. But Ethel didn’t do squat (even in the most recent revelations) and still got to visit Old Sparky too.

Hi! I am back from Shabbat.

My depressing take on all this is that Jared will be the fall guy. Ivanka will get “born again” and shove him under the bus and the Trumps will all get off while Jared goes to jail like his dad.

Then it will be the good ole Bad Times for Teh Juice.

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2022 • 7:25:25pm

Wow. The 911 call on Lauren Boebert’s “Jack-ass husband”

Iframe

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 7:25:47pm

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

Hi! I am back from Shabbat.

My depressing take on all this is that Jared will be the fall guy. Ivanka will get “born again” and shove him under the bus and the Trumps will all get off while Jared goes to jail like his dad.

Then it will be the good ole Bad Times for Teh Juice.

Does Jared seem like the kind of guy to just be the fall guy?

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Jay C  Aug 13, 2022 • 7:45:22pm

re: #105 Belafon

Does Jared seem like the kind of guy to just be the fall guy?

Personally, I’m thinking “not” - if for no other reason than he likely has amassed a veritable Everest of dirt on the whole Trump Empire and its rulers: and (“shmendrick” demeanor aside) seems very much the type to have already made sure that said dirt will avalanche down and bury various folks who won’t appreciate it should things get too hot for him….

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 13, 2022 • 7:49:40pm

My former employer is looking for study volunteers

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Aug 13, 2022 • 7:59:22pm

Gemista - So Cal Style


Tonight’s dinner
Home grown tomatoes from brother in law, store bought peppers
Added some Pepper Plant Garlic Style and BBQ sauce to the mix for SoCal style
Amazing

Served with horiatiki salad
Double amazing
Now full and hanging my garage pondering guitar playing.

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Dangerman  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:08:13pm

re: #70 PhillyPretzel

Again Beau is hitting the nail squarely on the head. DT can say whatever he wants that is not going to change what was in those documents.

Or that he possessed them

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calochortus  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:10:36pm

Apropos of nothing, my-daughter-the-pediatrician called yesterday to tell me about her week and in particular her night of being on call at the hospital.

tl;dr She is a good doctor and has absolutely awesome colleagues.

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Captain Ron  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:13:33pm
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retired cynic  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:18:30pm

re: #110 calochortus

I did read it all. You must be so proud of her! Those babies were soooo tiny! I hope the mom is doing ok by now, too.

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:18:31pm

re: #111 Captain Ron

Man, take a few hours off for dinner and Sandman, and still more stupidity breaks out.

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Florida Panhandler  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:22:05pm

re: #111 Captain Ron

Guaranteed already in Putin’s hands courtesy of either Flynn, Bannon, Stone or Manafort ( or any combination of the above).

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calochortus  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:22:22pm

re: #112 retired cynic

I did read it all. You must be so proud of her! Those babies were soooo tiny! I hope the mom is doing ok by now, too.

We are absolutely proud of her. I assume the mom is doing ok, though of course she must be incredibly stressed by all of this. I think there is a long road ahead if the babies survive, but Children’s Hospital Oakland does good work, so there is certainly hope.

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ckkatz  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:24:02pm

re: #17 gocart mozart

Hmm, regarding the content of the video…
I see a strong contender for Guest of Honor at the next mutton dinner.

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:24:35pm

Patel and/or Solomon, are you ready to play Make Your Best Deal?

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calochortus  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:29:00pm

re: #116 ckkatz

Hmm, regarding the content of the video…
I see a strong contender for Guest of Honor at the next mutton dinner.

Sheep are an amazing example of how you can dumb down an animal through careful breeding.

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ckkatz  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:32:41pm

re: #118 calochortus

Sheep are an amazing example of how you can dumb down an animal through careful breeding.

Heh!

Years ago I had a friend who raised sheep on his farm. One day we were talking and watching the flock of sheep graze. Suddenly one of the sheep jumped a fence into the next field. And a number of other sheep followed. The friend turns to me and says “I know who is going to be on the truck to market next week”.

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Dangerman  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:32:53pm
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darthstar  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:33:16pm
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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:35:45pm
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darthstar  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:35:51pm

re: #111 Captain Ron

Weird that Maggie breaks this kind of shit and then tweets garbage that normalizes Trump’s behavior five minutes later.

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Jay C  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:36:34pm

re: #121 darthstar

Much as I hate to agree with Brit Hume about anything: that IS funny…

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:36:47pm

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

Hi! I am back from Shabbat.

My depressing take on all this is that Jared will be the fall guy. Ivanka will get “born again” and shove him under the bus and the Trumps will all get off while Jared goes to jail like his dad.

Then it will be the good ole Bad Times for Teh Juice.

Jared is the one who received the 2 billion dollar payoff from Prince Bonesaw. Trump provided him and Ivanka security clearances to which they were not entitled. We are in uncharted waters where a former President is the literal definition of a traitor and 10s of millions of Americans worship him, most of the GOP in House support him, and there may be 100’s or 1000’s of Americans willing to sacrifice themselves to harm those they consider enemies of their lord and master.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:37:47pm

A Saskatchewan Amber Alert for two children has been cancelled. The children were believed to be with their mother and common-law husband (the hub is a convicted sex offender of children and vulnerable adults). Two others were also involved in taking the children.

The four people and the children were found ninety minutes later by the Meade County Sheriff at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally in South Dakota.

Arrangements are being made to return the children to Saskatchewan. The adults are in the Meade County Jail.

cbc.ca

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darthstar  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:39:04pm

I seriously believe Ted is relegated to a cot in the garage and his wife and daughters don’t talk to him at all.

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:40:34pm
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darthstar  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:48:20pm
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KingKenrod  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:49:17pm

re: #123 darthstar

Weird that Maggie breaks this kind of shit and then tweets garbage that normalizes Trump’s behavior five minutes later.

I just look at her this way: scoop or not, everything she reports is what Trump & his people want out there, whether it looks bad for them or not. She’s a dope and a terrible writer, too.

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ckkatz  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:49:56pm

We’ve had some real rogues in US History. But nothing I know of compares to tfg.

The closest I can think of in terms of foreign espionage are Benedict Arnold and James Wilkinson. And Arnold, at least, did a lot of things in service to the fledgling US before turning traitor.

en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:52:11pm

re: #129 darthstar

They have to keep their guns with them because they heard the FBI can break into their safes.

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:52:54pm

“I’m nothing without my emotional support tube.”

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calochortus  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:54:12pm

I think I’m out for the evening.
Hasta mañana.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2022 • 8:56:34pm

re: #127 darthstar

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:02:57pm

re: #129 darthstar

Why bother warning…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:16:45pm
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austin_blue  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:20:18pm

re: #135 GlutenFreeJesus

Is that his daughter or a random cute girl victim? Either way, it’s a crime.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:20:21pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:24:19pm

re: #139 Crush White Nationalism

More experience than Ben Shapiro too
I mean, at least according to ben’s own public statements

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:26:09pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:27:18pm

re: #140 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

More experience than Ben Shapiro too
I mean, at least according to ben’s own public statements

I think it’s funny that everyone thinks of Ben whenever the topic is discussed.

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:32:13pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:37:16pm

God: “Because you have done this, cursed are you above all livestock and above all beasts of the field; on your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life.” Genesis 3:14

Science:

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:38:54pm

re: #141 jaunte

LOL:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:46:25pm

re: #142 Crush White Nationalism

I think it’s funny that everyone thinks of Ben whenever the topic is discussed.

It is where the mind goes.
Similar to the mental reflex to “Rick Santorum”

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:48:37pm

re: #146 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Ben Dry & Rick Foamy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:52:42pm

re: #147 jaunte

Ben Dry & Rick Foamy.

Frothy

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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:52:44pm

re: #147 jaunte

Ben Dry & Rick Foamy.

My mind immediately riffed on Rick and Morty reading that. Considering how much I dislike the show, that’s even more scary 🤣

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A Cranky One  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:58:56pm

re: #144 Crush White Nationalism

Snek got legs
Snek knows how to use them
Snek never begs
…

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jaunte  Aug 13, 2022 • 9:59:16pm
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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 10:04:36pm

My final iteration of this code. I have now created a main class and a couple of helper classes that generate the following possible arrangements:
1. All possible permutations
2. All distinct permutations, what I call the “Mississippi” problem. Since the i’s are all the same, the s’s are all the same, and the p’s are all the same, only one instance is generated for the values in a given position. For instance, swapping of the s’s with each other doesn’t change the permutation, so I only generate one of them.
3. All possible combinations.
4. All distinct combinations.

I like to describe computer science as the branch of math that does all the things the other branches count. In this particular instance, it only computes the minimum sequences. It doesn’t generate a list and then check to see if it has done it before.

Click to Reveal
PERMUTATION = 0
COMBINATION = 1
TREAT_ALL_DISTINCT = 0
TREAT_SIMILAR_AS_ONE = 1

class DistinctMatchMap:
    def clear( self ):
        pass
    
    def contains( self, item ):
        return False
    
    def add( self, item ):
        pass

class SimilarMatchMap:
    def __init__( self, compare ):
        self.compare = compare
        self.clear()

    def clear( self ):
        self.items = []

    def contains( self, item ):
        for x in self.items:
            if self.compare( x, item ):
                return True
        return False

    def add( self, item ):
        if not self.contains( item ):
            self.items.append( item )

class Permutation:
    def __init__( self, values, sample_size = None, type = PERMUTATION, 
        step_type = TREAT_ALL_DISTINCT, compare = lambda x, y : x == y ):
        if sample_size == None:
            sample_size = len( values )
        if sample_size > len( values ):
            raise InvalidArgumentException( "Cannot have the sample size larger than the values." )
        self.values = values
        self.length = len( self.values )
        self.sample_size = sample_size
        self.type = type
        self.step_type = step_type
        self.compare = self.compare
        self.reset()

    def reset( self ):
        self.locations = [ -1 ] * sample_size
        if self.step_type == TREAT_ALL_DISTINCT:
            self.matches = [ DistinctMatchMap() for x in range( self.sample_size ) ]
        else:
            self.matches = [ SimilarMatchMap( self.compare ) for x in range( self.sample_size ) ]
        self.depth = 0

    def next( self ):
        while True:
            pos = self.find_unused_value( self.depth )
            if pos is self.length:
                self.matches[ self.depth ].clear()
                self.locations[ self.depth ] = -1
                if self.depth == 0:
                    return None # We are done
                else:
                    self.depth -= 1
            else:
                self.locations[ self.depth ] = pos
                self.matches[ self.depth ].add( self.values[ pos ] )
                if self.depth == self.sample_size - 1:
                    return self.get_sample()
                else:
                    self.depth += 1

    def get_sample( self ):
        return [ self.values[ x ] for x in self.locations ]

    def find_unused_value( self, depth ):
        matcher = self.matches[ depth ]
        start_pos = self.locations[ depth ]
        if start_pos == -1: # We're just starting.
            start_pos = 0
            if self.depth != 0 and self.type == COMBINATION:
                start_pos = self.locations[ depth - 1 ] + 1

            while start_pos < self.length and start_pos in self.locations:
                start_pos += 1
            return start_pos
        else:
            # Find the next value that doesn't match this one
            curval = self.values[ start_pos ]
            start_pos += 1
            while start_pos < self.length and \
                ( matcher.contains( self.values[ start_pos ] )  or start_pos in self.locations ):
                start_pos += 1
            return start_pos

class InvalidArgumentException( Exception ):
    def __init__( self, message ):
        self.message = message
        super().__init__( message )
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 13, 2022 • 10:10:02pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2022 • 10:11:48pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yes, just saw that. I think it is click-bait.

But I can’t get to article because Chrome is blocking me because of security reasons.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2022 • 10:16:12pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Without reading it, here is my guess:

Someone is proposing that a month-long “atmospheric river” could hit California.

I don’t like the phrase “atmospheric river” but weather forecasters began using it a few years back.

If you look at a global map of water vapor, in both hemispheres you’ll usually find streams of high-water-vapor going from the tropics into the mid latitudes, over the ocean. These things get pushed along in front of low-pressure cells.

Every few years one of those things hits California and wherever it hits has a higher than normal rainfall. Usually a few inches in a a day.

But then it passes east and quickly all the water is rained out.

My guess is that someone is saying that a stalled low-pressure system could hang off the California coast for weeks.

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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2022 • 10:21:54pm

These kiddies just keep digging in.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 13, 2022 • 10:23:17pm

re: #154 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes, just saw that. I think it is click-bait.

But I can’t get to article because Chrome is blocking me because of security reasons.

The lead author of the study at UCLA has a press release about it.

Climate change makes catastrophic flood twice as likely, study shows (August 12, 2022, goes to UCLA)

The last great flood in California was in 1862. Sacramento was flooded to the point that Governor Leland Stanford had to take a boat to his inauguration.

California lives with a sleeping giant — an occasional flood so large that it inundates major valleys with water flows hundreds of miles long and tens of miles across.

Motivated by one such flood that occurred in 1862, scientists investigated the phenomenon in 2010. They called it the “ArkStorm scenario,” reflecting the potential for an event of biblical proportions.

To account for the additional flood-worsening effects of climate change, scientists from UCLA and the National Center for Atmospheric Research have completed the first part of ArkStorm 2.0.

“In the future scenario, the storm sequence is bigger in almost every respect,” said Daniel Swain, UCLA climate scientist and co-author of the paper, which is published today in the journal Science Advances. “There’s more rain overall, more intense rainfall on an hourly basis and stronger wind.”

In total, the research projects that end-of-the-century storms will generate 200% to 400% more runoff in the Sierra Nevada Mountains due to increased precipitation and more precipitation falling as rain, not snow.

The researchers used a combination of new high-resolution weather modeling and existing climate models to compare two extreme scenarios: one that would occur about once per century in the recent historical climate and another in the projected climate of 2081-2100. Both would involve a long series of storms fueled by atmospheric rivers over the course of a month.

(more)

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2022 • 10:32:27pm

re: #156 William Lewis

These kiddies just keep digging in.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 13, 2022 • 10:38:38pm

re: #158 Belafon

Who is Garret Kramer and why does he have a blue tick? His bio is totally bare.

Lisa in that thread ought to be reported for suggesting violence.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 13, 2022 • 10:55:39pm

The United Nations and disability rights activists are calling out Canada for violations of the UN Declaration on Human Rights over its euthanasia law.

There are documented cases in Canada of physicians railroading disabled people into euthanasia when they don’t understand what’s happening, or failing to provide proper social services such as housing or food for the poor.

‘Disturbing’: Experts troubled by Canada’s euthanasia laws (Associated Press, August 11, 2022)

Typically things don’t go well for disabled people when health systems are overburdened (such as the ongoing pandemic) or fascists take control.

TORONTO (AP) — Alan Nichols had a history of depression and other medical issues, but none were life-threatening. When the 61-year-old Canadian was hospitalized in June 2019 over fears he might be suicidal, he asked his brother to “bust him out” as soon as possible.

Within a month, Nichols submitted a request to be euthanized and he was killed, despite concerns raised by his family and a nurse practitioner.

His application for euthanasia listed only one health condition as the reason for his request to die: hearing loss.

Nichols’ family reported the case to police and health authorities, arguing that he lacked the capacity to understand the process and was not suffering unbearably — among the requirements for euthanasia. They say he was not taking needed medication, wasn’t using the cochlear implant that helped him hear, and that hospital staffers improperly helped him request euthanasia.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2022 • 10:58:43pm

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I did report the tweet.

Garret Kramer - never heard of him either. A quick peak at his Wiki entry tells me he’s an author.

And he appears to be a quack.

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Captain Ron  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:00:44pm

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

West Sacramento is 5’ elevation. The river is at 8’ elevation. It was a swamp until they made the levees.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:03:00pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:03:52pm

re: #158 Belafon

It’s the white-grievance theater claim: that Tolkien was writing stories about England, or at most north-western Europe.

Except that Tolkien wasn’t.

Sure, the Shire is a fictional telling of Tolkien’s love of his is rural England, but Amazon’s RoP has nothing to do with the Shire.

The descriptions of Rohan include some items that Tolkien took from Anglo-Saxon culture, but Amazon’s RoP has nothing to do with Rohan.

With his writings on the pre-3rd Age, Tolkien is going straight into the territory of Plato and Genesis, which are definitely not concerning England.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:11:05pm

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thanks.

So I was right, it’s about a super atmospheric river.

But the problem is saying an event that hasn’t happened in 160 years (last one in 1862) will have double the chance of occurring, in a period 60-80 years in the future, when everyone reading the story will be dead….

… doesn’t seem to me to warrant the headline pushing that Twitter is doing on the USA article.

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mmmirele  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:16:57pm

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ironically, one of my Canadian friends found out she had lung cancer in early 2015 and it was very aggressive and not amenable to treatment. Towards the end she was having trouble breathing. Stephen Harper was prime minister at the time, and she made the decision to seek euthanasia in Switzerland because she was terrified the Harper government would force a medical establishment to keep her alive and in great pain against her will. She ended her life about 10 days before the federal election that brought Justin Trudeau to power.

I’ll note that it takes a shitton of paperwork to get approved by an assisted dying clinic and my friend was having to collect all this paperwork while dealing with an inoperable tumor. Seven years later I still think what Elizabeth did was one of the bravest things a person could do. I’m not sure I could do that. I do know that she chose to end her life on her own terms, which was a far cry different from me sitting in hospice for a week the year prior waiting for my father to die. I still think there has to be a better way, but I don’t know what…

That said, forcing people into euthanasia is abhorrent to me!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:42:33pm

re: #165 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Thanks.

So I was right, it’s about a super atmospheric river.

But the problem is saying an event that hasn’t happened in 160 years (last one in 1862) will have double the chance of occurring, in a period 60-80 years in the future, when everyone reading the story will be dead….

… doesn’t seem to me to warrant the headline pushing that Twitter is doing on the USA article.

As the study notes, when the last flood hit, the population of the entire state was 500,000. Now it’s closer to 40,000,000. Additionally, that percentage goes up for every one degree C of warming.

Double the chance of occurring in eighty years also means it could occur next year. As the overflow from the Oroville Dam a couple years ago showed, infrastructure is not ready for such flooding rains or snows, and thought and investment needs to take place now for something which will most certainly happen in the future.

The estimated damage in the study from a Sacramento-sized flood would be $1 trillion, creating instant food shortages in the USA and damaging worldwide trade.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:52:25pm

re: #158 Belafon

His intention was indeed to create a mythology for England, which doesn’t really have one.

And why ever does everyone keep replying to those fools? Beating your head against a wall would be at least as fulfilling.

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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:53:32pm

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who is Garret Kramer and why does he have a blue tick? His bio is totally bare.

Lisa in that thread ought to be reported for suggesting violence.

I already reported both, not that it’ll matter much.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:54:29pm

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m sure that someday with a much warmer world that a huge, catastrophic flood in California will have repercussions felt widely.

My point was that Twitter pushing a headline for something that has an extremely low probability of happening this year or next or even in the next 5 years, seems out of line with the actual news that is happening in the world this week.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:57:15pm

re: #165 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Thanks.

So I was right, it’s about a super atmospheric river.

But the problem is saying an event that hasn’t happened in 160 years (last one in 1862) will have double the chance of occurring, in a period 60-80 years in the future, when everyone reading the story will be dead….

… doesn’t seem to me to warrant the headline pushing that Twitter is doing on the USA article.

It appears that Governor Newsom thinks otherwise. I remind you that the middle of the country is experiencing hundred-year floods every other year or so.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2022 • 11:59:15pm

Attended a party this evening and half listened to a discussion between two men who I did not know, both in their 60’s. One kept insisting that Trump cared about our nation, the other did not share his views. Sigh — it makes me believe that we will not survive this, especially given the refusal of most Republicans in Washington to acknowledge that Trump is clearly a traitor.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 14, 2022 • 12:02:47am

re: #168 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

His intention was indeed to create a mythology for England, which doesn’t really have one.

Yes and no.

When Tolkien made a statement lamenting that England did not have its own mythology, by which he meant creation story, pantheon of gods, and such, it is clear that such a lament worked as a motivation for him.

But that does not mean everything he wrote has to do with England.

As time went on Tolkien became more engrossed in the problem of his Catholic beliefs melding with his imaginary world he created, that was first published in a book in The Hobbit.

IIRC, Tolkien’s first published work that had one of his imaginary personalities was way back in 1917, in a poem.

But it wasn’t until WWII, when he was penning parts of LOTR and sending them to his son in the service (in South Africa), that the larger novel took shape.

And Tolkien kept reworking, and never published, his Silmarillion. It was edited, compiled, and published by his son after death.

All of which to say, that as time went on Tolkien became more and more of a culture figure and he never stopped reworking his back-story to the LOTR.

To think Tolkien’s larger world is thus limited to England is really missing the big picture.

Tolkien wrote an essay on the “Faery” story, and his goal was to convince the publishing world that faery stories will find an audience among adults, not just children.

So Tolkien’s faery stories become more important in that light, not as some ancient history of England, but as a means by which he could sell his belief system through fiction.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 14, 2022 • 12:27:14am

Daylight reveals that the vent on the left (north side of the fissure) has now entombed itself in a cone and only a blow-hole remains for gas to escape.

And the now main-wall outlet (to the south) is raised up so the lava now has to spill over it:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 12:53:03am

re: #171 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

It appears that Governor Newsom thinks otherwise. I remind you that the middle of the country is experiencing hundred-year floods every other year or so.

We had massive flooding along the Missouri River, which broke through the levee then flooded Offutt AFB in 2012. They only just reopened the base a few weeks ago.

The problem is that there will be such a flood in California again, and the infrastructure in the state is not ready for it. Infrastructure takes time and money to improve. After a disaster is too late.

Year-on-year there isn’t much chance that the Cascadia Fault will have a major earthquake either, but planning and infrastructure improvement goes into that now for the same reason.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 12:53:14am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 1:00:16am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 14, 2022 • 1:15:00am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 1:24:00am

A multi-state fraud involving an IT company ripping off a Kansas Christian child services contractor has ended in the FBI raiding the IT company’s bank accounts in New Jersey and South Dakota.

St. Francis Ministries provides two-thirds of services in Kansas and was contracted by Gov. Ricketts to provide services in Nebraska (because they are Christians and the previous service provider is not). The contract was terminated as St. Francis was failing to meet its basic obligations. St. Francis intentionally underbid the local company providing those services. In the end, the state of Nebraska wound up paying more to St. Francis than the previous provider was charging.

The IT company owner bought a multi-million dollar home in New York City along with sloshing around money stolen by inflated billing.

Since St. Francis is a church organisation, it does not report income and expenditures, which would have allowed Kansas to see the organisation was being ripped off. A whistleblower from St. Francis brought the hinky accounting and billing to the FBI’s attention.

Currently Nebraska is trying to replace St. Francis, and a patchwork of emergency providers is in place.

nebraskaexaminer.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 1:31:05am

Via The Independent:

JK Rowling says ‘police are involved’ after receiving death threat following Salman Rushdie tweet

JK Rowling sent a message of support to Salman Rusdie.

JK Rowling has told her fans that the police are involved after a tweet about Salman Rushdie prompted a death threat on Twitter. The controversial Harry Potter author had expressed sympathy for Rushdie after he was stabbed onstage on Friday at a literary event in New York.

On Saturday, it was reported that Rushdie was on a ventilator, having been taken to hospital after the attack. You can follow the latest updates on the incident here.

Following the attack, Rowling tweeted: “Horrifying news. Feeling very sick right now. Let him be ok.”

Shortly after posting the message, Rowling shared an image of a reply she had received, which read: “Don’t worry you are next.”

The author initially tagged in Twitter’s support account, writing: “Any chance of some support?”

(more at the link)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 14, 2022 • 1:32:26am

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Amory Blaine  Aug 14, 2022 • 2:08:38am

Tourons

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Dave In Austin  Aug 14, 2022 • 2:12:16am

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

Hi! I am back from Shabbat.

My depressing take on all this is that Jared will be the fall guy. Ivanka will get “born again” and shove him under the bus and the Trumps will all get off while Jared goes to jail like his dad.

Then it will be the good ole Bad Times for Teh Juice.

And she takes the $2B in Bonesaw dust.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 2:32:38am

After a week of outrage in Hays, Kansas’s school board after a mother objected to the elementary dress code prohibiting Satanic imagery, likening it to gangs or crime, the school board has reversed its decision. (Something something lawsuit.)

Hays BOE reverses position; satanic apparel no longer prohibited (Hays Post)

The Hays school board voted 6-1 Friday morning to reverse its prohibition on Satanism in the schools’ dress code.

The school board met in executive session for 45 minutes in consultation with its attorney and an attorney from the Kansas Association of School Boards.

About two dozen community members were present at the meeting, but there was no public comment session during the special meeting.

The revised policy unifies all the school dress code policies in the district to match board and KASB policy. It says …

“Students must dress in a manner that is not obscene, offensive or substantially or materially disruptive to the learning environment. Apparel that is sexually suggestive or that promotes violence, illegal activities, drugs, alcohol or tobacco or that is determined to be gang related is prohibited.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 2:37:54am

Needs moar of these “rare moves.”

In rare move, school librarian fights back in court against conservative activists (NBC News, August 13, 2022)

A Louisiana school librarian is suing two men for defamation after they accused her of advocating to keep “pornographic” materials in the parish library’s kids’ section. It’s a rare example of an educator taking legal action against conservatives who use extreme rhetoric in their battle against LGBTQ-themed books.

Amanda Jones, a librarian at a middle school in Denham Springs, Louisiana, filed a defamation lawsuit Wednesday, arguing that Facebook pages run by Michael Lunsford and Ryan Thames falsely labeled her a pedophile who wants to teach 11-year-olds about anal sex.

Jones, the president of the Louisiana Association of School Librarians, was alarmed and outraged by the verbal attacks, which came after she spoke against censorship at a Livingston Parish Library Board of Control meeting. She said she’s suing the two men because she’s exhausted with the insults hurled at educators and librarians over LGBTQ materials.

“I’ve had enough for everybody,” Jones said in an interview. “Nobody stands up to these people. They just say what they want and there are no repercussions and they ruin people’s reputations and there’s no consequences.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 2:53:16am

Via LGBTQ Nation, August 12, 2022

Gay man wins lawsuit against Catholic employer who refused to give his husband health care benefits

A federal judge has ruled that the non-profit Catholic Relief Services violated federal laws against sex discrimination when it denied health insurance benefits to the male spouse of a gay employee, rejecting their argument that they have a religious right to discriminate in employment.

The employee, identified in court papers as “John Doe” to protect his privacy, claimed that after being told that that CRS’s insurance plan provided health coverage for employees and their spouses regardless of sex when he was hired in 2016, his husband’s coverage was dropped in 2017 because same-sex spouses are not, in fact, covered.

In her decision, U.S. District Judge Catherine C. Blake said that exemptions to federal laws against sex discrimination for religious-based organizations do not apply in this case because Doe’s job as a data analyst was not part of the Baltimore-based organization’s religious mission.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 14, 2022 • 2:57:28am

re: #86 darthstar

No! Not Melanie!

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The paranoia is deep.

Jared Kushner, Melania Trump, and many others have been pointed to as possible FBI informants…

None of those people give a shit about the country. I’m almost guaranteeing that it’s a SS agent because, while they may like trump, most would put country above him.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 2:57:58am

Also a court win in Idaho.

The state of Idaho has been ordered to pay $321,224.50 in legal fees because of an anti-transgender law it passed in 2020 that had already been ruled unconstitutional.

In 2018, U.S. Magistrate Judge Candy Dale ruled that it was unconstitutional for the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare (IDHW) to completely block transgender people from correcting the gender marker on their birth certificates. That case was brought by a transgender woman who was called a “tra**y” and a “fa***t” at a Social Security office when she showed them her birth certificate.

In 2020, state Rep. Julianne Young (R) introduced a bill to ban changes to birth certificates outside of a narrow set of exemptions. She claimed that the birth certificate is a “historical document” and that allowing transgender people to have birth certificates that reflect who they are threatens women.

(more)

lgbtqnation.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2022 • 3:19:28am

re: #65 retired cynic

Look at this absolute unit of a snapping turtle.

you can see where the myths and legends of a turtle bearing the world on its back might have originated

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2022 • 3:20:34am

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Melania will not be buried in a golf course if she outlives him, but that would only likely be the case if she dies of natural causes…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2022 • 3:30:26am

re: #156 William Lewis

Crusader DD:
“The Professor was making a mythology unique to England, inspired by European cultures and Catholic theology and history. He wasn’t racist, nor am I, but he was making a story for his people. It is not racism to take pride in your own history.”

There is a key point right there:

made-up and mythological

leaves a lot of room for interpretation

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William Lewis  Aug 14, 2022 • 3:41:49am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not my quote.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2022 • 3:56:29am

re: #192 William Lewis

Not my quote.

fixed it to remove any confusion

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Ming5000  Aug 14, 2022 • 4:09:12am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2022 • 4:28:18am

re: #194 Ming5000

The clip in Jaunte’s post froma few threads ago is worth a watch if you have not seen it until now.

That exchange between DiSantis and Hannity/Lara Trump was amazing. Wow.

Regardless of authenticity, De Santis does not want to get on the bad side of the FBI if he is planning to run for Prez.

And regardless regardless, it is outright disgusting, misleading and potentially dangerous to describe the FBI and its actions as anything other than public servants doing their duty in executing a warranted and legal search.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 4:30:49am

Comedian Doug Stanhope is now raising money for the atheist woman who lost her home in the Moore, Oklahoma tornado, who Wolf Blitzer outed on television.

All her neighbours are receiving aid (and praise to Jesus) but she is receiving none (because she is an atheist).

Over $126,000 was raised.

tiktok.com (1:24)

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TarHellion  Aug 14, 2022 • 4:35:30am

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Yikes! Just repeatedly trying to whack it out of the sand trap. Heading to Eastern TN today to check out a baseball game. Buddy is a Cubs fan, and he wants to see if there is any hope on the horizon. A pleasant Sunday to everyone!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2022 • 4:36:45am

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Comedian Doug Stanhope is now raising money for the atheist woman who lost her home in the Moore, Oklahoma tornado, who Wolf Blitzer outed on television.

All her neighbours are receiving aid (and praise to Jesus) but she is receiving none (because she is an atheist).

Over $126,000 was raised.

tiktok.com (1:24)

So God smote her house along with the Christians but the Christians have no problem leaving her homeless?

I guess they have decided that she is a smite-magnet who brought misfortune on the whole neighborhood because they know that God can be terribly imprecise when it comes to smitation.

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Ming5000  Aug 14, 2022 • 4:45:05am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am catching up. That clip is apparently fake. 😢

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 14, 2022 • 4:45:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2022 • 4:47:48am

re: #199 Ming5000

I am catching up. That clip is apparently fake. 😢

But it is brilliantly re-edited in a manner that a Breitbart or O’Keefe would be proud of

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jeffreyw  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:03:18am

I’ve got your six, Gabe

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:05:45am

Was only able to go four lines in Antiwordle today.

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Miserable fail on music porn. I’ve heard the song but cannot name the title or artist.
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Birdie on geography porn.
#Worldle #205 2/6 (100%)
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Miserable fail on Wordle.
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:06:17am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But it is brilliantly re-edited in a manner that a Breitbart or O’Keefe would be proud of

One would say the editor’s skill is of O’Keefe’ian magnitude.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:07:19am

This morning’s Wordle was… a word. Once again, I got to a point where I was searching for any word to fit the pattern, and the first one that showed up was the word.

Click to Reveal

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:11:12am

Religious liberty win in North Dakota.

The board only imposed the Pledge in April on its meetings. That turned out a large portion of the town to object against it, both due to the compelled patriotism and the phrase “Under God” shoehorned in back in the Fifties. Parents argued the phrase is explicitly Christian and exclusive of other faiths and none.

The school goes back to the way they opened meetings before (let’s just get on with it).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:11:46am

Good morning from Detroit!

Ms. Cyborg and I just crossed back into the U.S.

No issues at the border. In fact, the Bridge was about as empty as we’ve ever seen it.

Also, it’s my 41st birthday today, so there’s that. 😛

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Ming5000  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:13:35am

Michigan ZQP fratricide. Grab a bowl of popcorn.
And, we have a Dark Gretch now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:15:39am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

Good morning from Detroit!

Ms. Cyborg and I just crossed back into the U.S.

No issues at the border. In fact, the Bridge was about as empty as we’ve ever seen it.

Also, it’s my 41st birthday today, so there’s that. 😛

Welcome home!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:29:20am

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:30:50am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:34:30am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:38:10am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:39:44am

re: #213 Dave In Austin

Gonna go ahead and guess the membership is 90% male.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:39:44am

re: #213 Dave In Austin

This ought to fail like every other conservative dating site in short order.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:42:24am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So God smote her house along with the Christians but the Christians have no problem leaving her homeless?

I guess they have decided that she is a smite-magnet who brought misfortune on the whole neighborhood because they know that God can be terribly imprecise when it comes to smitation.

That and they have no problem praising God for deliverance whilst not mentioning their dead neighbours.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:42:31am

And of course, one of the first billboards I see upon returning to America is for a gun store.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:50:54am

re: #217 Eclectic Cyborg

And of course, one of the first billboards I see upon returning to America is for a gun store.

Welcome back to the land of the free (fire zone).

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:51:31am

re: #212 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not at all surprising.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:52:35am

re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus

Not at all surprising.

Hageman is a Big Lie promoter. Aside from that, she is an unhinged wingnut.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:53:32am

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Indeed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 14, 2022 • 5:56:39am

Wyoming’s newspapers have all endorsed Liz Cheney for the primary, but if the polling is accurate it would appear those endorsements don’t amount to much.

I’m going to slough off to bed. Drive save, E. Cyborg.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:00:40am

That bit from the AL GOP still supporting Trump heavily shows that the rot goes all the way down. They are going to back him despite any revelations that occur and have just backed themselves further into that corner since putting out that resolution now (instead of simply remaining silent or taking a “let’s see” attitude) is simply something else they will to unwilling to step back from since it will be another admission of error.

And never admitting an error is, if anything, the true hallmark of the modern GOP.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:02:12am

re: #139 Crush White Nationalism

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Know what else “kills a human being”?
Removing life support from an actual born and living person.
Its usually done by several people conspiring, some are doctors.

Its allowed, and legal.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:07:28am

re: #224 Dangerman

[Embedded content]

Know what else “kills a human being”?
Removing life support from an actual born and living person.
Its usually done by several people conspiring, some are doctors.

Its allowed, and legal.

ok so i just posted this
without reading down the thread first (as usual for me)
and of course there just had to be an unrelated discussion about euthanasia.
what are the odds?

and why won’t i ever learn to read first

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:10:19am

I was just listening to Al Franken’s podcast. This week he interviews the authors of George Floyd, Say His Name. I’m sure most of us are familiar with parts of his life through media and the trial, but the authors show how closely his family’s past and George Floyd’s own trajectory is the very story of systemic racism going back to Reconstruction and before. I say this because it really demonstrates the sickness and cruelty when Eric Trump says that there’s a separate and unfair justice for his father.

Also, I hope that Christopher Rufo gets some kind of comeuppence for his anti-CRT and anti-LGBTQ activism. I wish the Claremont Institute would slide into the ocean.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:16:41am

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Does he show the offending bikini?
Otherwise I’m not watching

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No Malarkey!  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:18:41am

re: #223 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

That bit from the AL GOP still supporting Trump heavily shows that the rot goes all the way down. They are going to back him despite any revelations that occur and have just backed themselves further into that corner since putting out that resolution now (instead of simply remaining silent or taking a “let’s see” attitude) is simply something else they will to unwilling to step back from since it will be another admission of error.

And never admitting an error is, if anything, the true hallmark of the modern GOP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:22:32am

re: #227 Dangerman

Does he show the offending bikini?
Otherwise I’m not watching

The bikini had the words “Father”
and “Son” across the left and right breasts and “Holy Spirit” on the crotch.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:23:18am

re: #228 No Malarkey!

This is why I say that if Fox News existed in the 70s, Nixon never would have had to resign.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:23:49am

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:24:21am

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

re: #227 Dangerman

Burned at the stake? Hmm. How about a trip to the White Tower?

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No Malarkey!  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:26:00am

re: #227 Dangerman

Does he show the offending bikini?
Otherwise I’m not watching

No, he just rants about the “good old days” when we burned witches at the stake.

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darthstar  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:26:44am

re: #203 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I went four in anti-wordle but I misunderstood the rules. Will try again tomorrow.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:27:45am

re: #229 Eclectic Cyborg

The bikini had the words “Father”
and “Son” across the left and right breasts and “Holy Spirit” on the crotch.

I see
And i yawned

Is no one pissed off at Adidas?

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:28:33am

re: #232 PhillyPretzel

Burned at the stake? Hmm. How about a trip to the White Tower?

Or the White Castle

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:30:03am

re: #236 Dangerman

White Tower = Tower of London.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:30:11am

Also, wow, what an ass tfg is

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No Malarkey!  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:30:16am

The Biden Administration is basically what people who imagined “The Great Dealmaker” was reality and Trump would be a pragmatic, not ideological, President, thought the Trump Administration would be.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:32:03am

re: #237 PhillyPretzel

White Tower = Tower of London.

White Castle = Tower of fast food

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:33:43am

re: #239 No Malarkey!

The Biden Administration is basically what people who imagined fantasized “The Great Dealmaker” was reality and Trump would be a pragmatic, not ideological, President, thought the Trump Administration would be.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:44:26am

It’s really tough to watch this country unravel as my own life is relegated to grief and loss and anger. If I had the physical and mental strength I would probably get myself into trouble around here with all the vengeful morons surrounding me. I’m so sick of people breaking shit just because they can and then blaming it on anyone else. AND these fuckweasels are pissed off at a liberal stereotype that THEY made up. How do we even deal with just that part?

I vote. I’ve encouraged my son’s friends who aren’t registered to register and I have offered to give anyone without transportation a ride to the polls. I can’t donate money, I simply cannot walk and knock on doors(around here, that could end up with me looking down the barrel of a firearm, I’m not joking) and I am in no position mental health wise to deal with a single asshole. I have enough to slog through as it is.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:47:04am

re: #242 A Mom Anon

It’s really tough to watch this country unravel as my own life is relegated to grief and loss and anger. If I had the physical and mental strength I would probably get myself into trouble around here with all the vengeful morons surrounding me. I’m so sick of people breaking shit just because they can and then blaming it on anyone else. AND these fuckweasels are pissed off at a liberal stereotype that THEY made up. How do we even deal with just that part?

I vote. I’ve encouraged my son’s friends who aren’t registered to register and I have offered to give anyone without transportation a ride to the polls. I can’t donate money, I simply cannot walk and knock on doors(around here, that could end up with me looking down the barrel of a firearm, I’m not joking) and I am in no position mental health wise to deal with a single asshole. I have enough to slog through as it is.

You do what you can. What you’re able to. When you can.
No one asks more.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:48:29am

Another terrorist attack in D.C. this morning. The attacker shot himself, and was the only fatality, thank goodness.

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darthstar  Aug 14, 2022 • 6:56:14am
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darthstar  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:06:50am

Nice to see this meme dusted off and brought out of retirement…

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:08:19am

re: #246 darthstar

Nice to see this meme dusted off and brought out of retirement…

Sounds like what Doolittle discovered about Japan.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:17:05am

WaPo ping: Salman Rushdie is off the ventilator. He is on the “road to recovery”

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:22:56am

So rand Paul thinks trump did it

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:28:56am

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:43:12am

re: #244 No Malarkey!

Another terrorist attack in D.C. this morning. The attacker shot himself, and was the only fatality, thank goodness.

Once you’ve broke stupid, killing yourself while your car is on fire somehow seems especially appropriate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:44:40am

Wordle 421 4/6

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:44:56am

re: #208 Ming5000

Michigan ZQP fratricide. Grab a bowl of popcorn.
And, we have a Dark Gretch now.

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Melissa Carone. Isn’t that the lunatic that was Rudy’s drink assed “witness”?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:47:40am

re: #213 Dave In Austin

Link to English? What’s the native language, Russian?

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:52:25am

When I look at classified documents, I’ve got to go in a special room… I can’t even wear my Fitbit.”

— Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)

Press the meat

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No Malarkey!  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:52:36am
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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:53:10am

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darthstar  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:53:38am

re: #213 Dave In Austin

If you select ‘I am a man’ the default is looking for a man.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:54:41am

while it is possible the DOJ merely wanted to retrieve and secure the material that Trump refused to give back to the government, if they decide to press forward with charges, their case looks quite strong,” Politico reports.

“The government initially treated Trump with kid gloves when he took government property, including classified documents, with him after he left office…”

“If you or I had some 21 boxes of potentially classified information in our home, the Feds wouldn’t ask for it politely or even issue a subpoena. They would have taken possession of that material right away, and we would face serious charges.”

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No Malarkey!  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:56:02am

re: #257 Crush White Nationalism

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Heard a few seconds of Seb Gorka being interviewed on Breitbart News this morning (that was all I could take). They are confident that the FBI raid has put Trump on a glide path back to the White House. I can’t tell to what extent they actually believe this crap, or are just grifting; it’s possible they don’t know themselves anymore.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:56:57am

re: #259 Dangerman

Imo classified is icing
Possession of boxes of stolen government documents is quite enough
Oh and not returned after 3 chances

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Teukka  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:58:49am

re: #260 No Malarkey!

Heard a few seconds of Seb Gorka being interviewed on Breitbart News this morning (that was all I could take). They are confident that the FBI raid has but Trump on a glide path back to the White House. I can’t tell to what extent they actually believe this crap, or are just grifting; it’s possible they don’t know themselves anymore.

The latter is an inevitable consequence of lying for too long; you lose the compass which tells you what lies you can get away with. There are theories as to why, but one is that they begin to buy into their own lies, and fall prey for the trap of being lied to and believing the lies for too long, which is the loss of the ability to recognize truth. In fact, in many cases, the people will think truth suspect and fake.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 7:59:41am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:01:07am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

A very Happy Birthday! And may this year be a very happy year for you and all lizards with an end to the Trump cult.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:01:58am

re: #262 Teukka

The latter is an inevitable consequence of lying for too long; you lose the compass which tells you what lies you can get away with. There are theories as to why, but one is that they begin to buy into their own lies, and fall prey for the trap of being lied to and believing the lies for too long, which is the loss of the ability to recognize truth. In fact, in many cases, the people will think truth suspect and fake.

Firehose lying is just a weapon
It doesn’t have to make sense.
The power is in the unrelenting blast from the nozzle

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:02:28am

re: #263 Dangerman

The GOP has lashed itself to the mast and by God, they’re going down with the ship.

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Teukka  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:03:53am

re: #265 Dangerman

Firehose lying is just a weapon
It doesn’t have to make sense.
The power is in the unrelenting blast from the nozzle

Still has the same effect on the user of said firehose…

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:03:57am

If you forgot to keep track

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:04:36am

re: #268 Dangerman

And now, “I needed it for my memoir”
Yeah I just read that

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dat_said  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:05:25am

An omen of something.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:08:46am

re: #270 dat_said

Perseids meteor showers?

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Jay C  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:08:51am

re: #260 No Malarkey!

Heard a few seconds of Seb Gorka being interviewed on Breitbart News this morning (that was all I could take). They are confident that the FBI raid has but Trump on a glide path back to the White House. I can’t tell to what extent they actually believe this crap, or are just grifting; it’s possible they don’t know themselves anymore.

Not that they don’t know: it’s lilkier that they simply just don’t care: RWNJ media feeds its audience what they want to hear, and if what they want to hear is Triumphalist Trumpism, that’s what they’ll get: and if their bloodthirsty fantasies get validated by a Brilliant Yuropeen Intellekshual like Sebastian Gorka, so much the better.

And it’s a safe bet that no matter what transpires, Breitbart (and the rest of the RWNJs) will find some excuse for Righteous Outrage…..

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:10:47am

For horror fans:
Susan B. Glasser and Peter Baker
Inside the War Between Trump and His Generals
How Mark Milley and others in the Pentagon handled the national-security threat posed by their own Commander-in-Chief.
newyorker.com

If Trump had started just a bit earlier and had just a little more patience to get the right 40-50 people in place, he would be the dictator he wanted to be, right now.

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Jay C  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:11:30am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

Good morning from Detroit!

Ms. Cyborg and I just crossed back into the U.S.

No issues at the border. In fact, the Bridge was about as empty as we’ve ever seen it.

Also, it’s my 41st birthday today, so there’s that. 😛

HAPPY B’DAY!!

Have an upding, and sincerest felicitations!

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:12:31am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

Welcome back and a very Happy Birthday. :)

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:12:55am

re: #263 Dangerman

The issue is whether the orange iceberg will sink the ship before all the rest of us go under.

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Jay C  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:14:19am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

The GOP has lashed itself to the mast and by God, they’re going down with the ship.

After having stove in all the lifeboats so as not to instill pessimism in the crew….
(And screw the passengers….)

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:14:49am
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Teukka  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:17:05am

re: #278 jaunte

I quietly wonder how fast y’all are going to reach the “attack soft targets” stage…

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:18:07am

re: #279 Teukka

They’re already threatening FBI family members.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:20:18am

re: #279 Teukka

I quietly wonder how fast y’all are going to reach the “attack soft targets” stage…

We’re well past that stage. When you murder dozens of children in schools, worshipers in a synagogue, or concert goers from a hotel window, you’re there.

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:20:39am
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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:22:23am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

The GOP has lashed itself to the mast and by God, they’re going down with the ship.

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:23:25am

“…”We have some people who are pretty fanatical and radical about things,” said Gillespie County Judge Mark Stroeher. “Unfortunately, they have driven out our elections administrator, and not just her, but the staff. Everybody has resigned.”

Stroeher was sympathetic to Herrera’s frustrations in the position.

“The job had been made much more difficult than probably it should be because of some individuals who are continuing to question how they are doing things,” said Stroeher.

Herrera mentioned that, following the 2020 elections, Texas legislature had passed approximately 300 new laws regulating the voting process. This made her oversight overwhelming to manage. Herrera feels confident about the integrity of the county’s voting process.

“Texas is very safe and secure,” said Herrera.

With Herrera’s resignation and those of other members of the department, the voting process in Gillespie County is uncertain, and those who feared a fragile election system may have inspired real difficulties.

“It’s unfortunate because we have candidates that need to be elected, and we have voters who want their voices to be heard by the ballots,” said Stroeher. “I don’t know how we’re going to hold an election when everybody in the election department has resigned.”

Stroeher plans to contact the office of the Secretary of State for Texas for guidance on holding the upcoming November elections.”
fredericksburgstandard.com

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Jay C  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:25:18am

PS:
Still getting the “green square” issue on my iPad: just happened w #283

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:25:54am

re: #284 jaunte

Stroeher plans to contact the office of the Secretary of State for Texas for guidance on holding the upcoming November elections.”

No worries.
We’ll tell you who won.

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Dangerman  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:26:26am

re: #285 Jay C

PS:
Still getting the “green square” issue on my iPad: just happened w #283

Not my fault ;-)

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:27:18am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:29:25am

re: #288 jaunte

I really hope angry women rip the GOP a new one in the midterms.

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:30:36am

re: #289 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope the women save us.

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:31:58am

Hereby I announce this TRUTH!

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:32:02am

re: #276 sizzzzlerz

The issue is whether the orange iceberg will sink the ship before all the rest of us go under.

ETTD. Trump touched America — so our prospects of survival are vanishingly small. We are doomed.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:36:17am

re: #285 Jay C

PS:
Still getting the “green square” issue on my iPad: just happened w #283

I would see it if I replied to a comment that had a hidden section. When the page would then load the additional comments, it would highlight the first new one in green.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:36:47am

This might have already made the rounds here, but about that altered church production of “Hamilton”:

Also, the churches claim about having gotten permission from the “Hamilton” team to do the show is (surprise!) complete bullshit.

Funny, I thought the Bible said something about not lying…

///

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:38:21am

re: #281 sizzzzlerz

We’re well past that stage. When you murder dozens of children in schools, worshipers in a synagogue, or concert goers from a hotel window, you’re there.

It is Trump whose election led to the worshipers slaughtered in a synagogue; the other acts of violence are part of our long standing gun worship and GOP allegiance to the NRA; they aren’t a sign of insurrection.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:42:03am

re: #173 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes and no.

When Tolkien made a statement lamenting that England did not have its own mythology, by which he meant creation story, pantheon of gods, and such, it is clear that such a lament worked as a motivation for him.

But that does not mean everything he wrote has to do with England.

As time went on Tolkien became more engrossed in the problem of his Catholic beliefs melding with his imaginary world he created, that was first published in a book in The Hobbit.

IIRC, Tolkien’s first published work that had one of his imaginary personalities was way back in 1917, in a poem.

But it wasn’t until WWII, when he was penning parts of LOTR and sending them to his son in the service (in South Africa), that the larger novel took shape.

And Tolkien kept reworking, and never published, his Silmarillion. It was edited, compiled, and published by his son after death.

All of which to say, that as time went on Tolkien became more and more of a culture figure and he never stopped reworking his back-story to the LOTR.

To think Tolkien’s larger world is thus limited to England is really missing the big picture.

Tolkien wrote an essay on the “Faery” story, and his goal was to convince the publishing world that faery stories will find an audience among adults, not just children.

So Tolkien’s faery stories become more important in that light, not as some ancient history of England, but as a means by which he could sell his belief system through fiction.

I am truly and profoundly sick and tired of repeating this again and again, particularly when it is — at second hand — a response to tweet-level “arguments” by white-only advocates, but one more time…the story that Tolkien started with was a mythology for England, with a creation myth and a story that explained how England got to be what it was “today.” The basis of that story was Germanic mythology, and Tolkien’s imagination. Formally, it is related to the sagas and oral histories (Germanic and Scandinavian) that Tolkien loved and that were his life’s work as an academic. You would be hard-pressed to find anything at all in his work that is not in the European tradition. (Atlantis? Plato, a European, is the sole source of the story, which probably relates to the destruction of Thera and the end of Minoan dominance. The Kalavela? Finns aren’t Indo-Europeans (a linguistic classification), but they’ve lived in Europe for as long as anyone can remember, and they look like other Europeans.) It is intellectually dishonest to pretend anything else in advancement of arguments with the whites-only crowd.

So why does it not matter that Amazon didn’t use lily-white casting for its show? Because Europeans come in all colors and have for a while now, as do Americans (country or continent).* Because there are prominent Europeans of color today and have been for centuries (e.g. Pushkin, and the Dumas family). Because “race” has no biological basis, so you can be just as European as you want to be no matter where your ancestors came from.

And I’m done with this. The people that argue for white ROP are never going to be persuaded, and your time is your own, but I’m not wasting any more of mine on it. After all, I haven’t quite finished the History of Middle Earth, volume 12, and now there’s another volume from Tolkien’s manuscripts, and I have too much else to do.**

*Mary Beard, the classical scholar, uncovered so e history of Roman Britons of color, and oh, what a row that stirred up.

** On Fairy Stories is a discussion of Tolkien’s ideas about secondary creation and its position in a created world. It may have had something to do with his decision to write a sequel to The Hobbit, but it had nothing to do with getting it published — the only problem with that was that he wanted to publish the Silmarillion at the same time.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:42:27am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

This might have already made the rounds here, but about that altered church production of “Hamilton”:

Also, the churches claim about having gotten permission from the “Hamilton” team to do the show is (surprise!) complete bullshit.

Funny, I thought the Bible said something about not lying…

///

Lying for Jesus to save a buck or after the fact seems to be part of the default behavior pattern. Much like never admitting an error or declaring mea culpa and attempting to make amends.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:42:35am

Not a repeat word? Feel like I’ve seen b4.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:48:03am

re: #285 Jay C

PS:
Still getting the “green square” issue on my iPad: just happened w #283

Me too. I get that on other sites, as well, so it’s not limited to LGF. I think it’s an iOS thing.

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Ming5000  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:49:22am

re: #253 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Melissa Carone. Isn’t that the lunatic that was Rudy’s drink assed “witness”?

Yes. Carrone is running for state senate.

She has three issues on her web page.
Election integrity 🤷‍♂️
Medical freedom🤦‍♀️
No CRT in schools 🤷‍♀️

Her rabid base will be sure to vote

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:50:04am
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Teukka  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:50:25am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

This might have already made the rounds here, but about that altered church production of “Hamilton”:

Also, the churches claim about having gotten permission from the “Hamilton” team to do the show is (surprise!) complete bullshit.

Funny, I thought the Bible said something about not lying…

///

“Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor”. They think they work around it by defining Libs! as non-neighbors. But the thing is, everyone on this planet is our neighbors…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:54:18am

re: #298 HRH Stanley Sea

VisxRVFzcGpONkRUK0gvVXpEdnhwR01MMkIvQVE0NFdob015S2ZtZFk1NXZ6em9pTGNaN3N6dHoydzhOZUFpa1lGTytKcFV3YkRqejhvNFd4c3k0NFZiS0Ixd3BKSGgza1NWaVRpSGJsQVU9OjpYzDAJt2VkdSam68yzclod

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:57:27am
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Ming5000  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:58:39am

Andrea Mitchell is trending on Twit
My fingers were crossed, but she just filled in for Chuck Todd on Meat Press and did a worse job.

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CleverToad  Aug 14, 2022 • 8:59:08am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

Good morning from Detroit!

Ms. Cyborg and I just crossed back into the U.S.

No issues at the border. In fact, the Bridge was about as empty as we’ve ever seen it.

Also, it’s my 41st birthday today, so there’s that. 😛

Hippo Birdie!
Welcome back to the nuthouse

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Dave In Austin  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:03:42am

re: #304 The Pie Overlord!

That picture is in Phoenix.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:04:48am

re: #202 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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John Hughes  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:05:58am

re: #203 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Knew instantly where, but got the country wrong
#Worldle #205 2/6 (100%)
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟨⬇️
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🎉
worldle.teuteuf.fr

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:06:40am

re: #301 Crush White Nationalism

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I like how they subverted that in Robert Downey Jr’s Sherlock Holmes.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:09:00am

I was watching a video this morning showing the erupting volcano in Iceland. Two people were shown having walked across fresh lava to a point where there was a active stream of lava flowing past and a relatively close distance to the volcano (hard to assess distance through a telephoto lens). The volcano itself appear to be in a lower state of activity than previously but it was still throwing up towers of molten rock. The commentor was saying, over and over, how dangerous this was and how stupid. They stood on the lava for a bit and then casually strolled back to land.

The only thing I could think was that they had to be americans.

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:12:15am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:13:04am
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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:13:55am

Conservative (rwnj terrorist) self-owns wreck things for everyone.

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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A Cranky One  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:14:41am

Interesting video about Navajo code talkers in WW2.

Youtube Video

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:14:42am
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:16:22am

re: #172 Hecuba’s daughter

[snip]

Words — took too long
Sigh — another 5

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Well that word was something else. 4/6 for me.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:19:18am

re: #314 jaunte

Conservative (rwnj terrorist) self-owns wreck things for everyone.

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

Gone. What was it?

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:19:52am

re: #318 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Posted in 316.

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Teukka  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:19:59am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:25:06am

re: #316 jaunte

40 years of being told government is the enemy. No effort at all for the screaming about “rigged elections” to expand that set to include *all* election workers.

Which preps things for them being told that elections themselves are wrong.

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A Cranky One  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:25:41am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:26:00am

re: #285 Jay C

PS:
Still getting the “green square” issue on my iPad: just happened w #283

Not on mine, or my iphone.

Strange.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:28:20am

re: #292 Hecuba’s daughter

ETTD. Trump touched America — so our prospects of survival are vanishingly small. We are doomed.

Of course everyone said that in 2018. Also 2020. Also every bleeping day in between.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:38:06am
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:40:11am

re: #325 The Pie Overlord!

Just because they’re not persecuting your political enemies doesn’t mean they’re politically biased, Gym.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:47:27am

re: #278 jaunte

We’ve reached the fanatical religious suicide bomber phase of the Insurrection.

At least he got the order right. Off yourself and then take out other people. 👍👍

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Jay C  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:54:13am

re: #325 The Pie Overlord!

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Leaving aside the stale, malodor of Jordan’s trite RW-boogeyman list (and AFAICT, most/all have been “investigated”, and nothing at all particularly “criminal” uncovered), WTH is Lois Lerner??

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:56:18am

re: #328 Jay C

Leaving aside the stale, malodor of Jordan’s trite RW-boogeyman list (and AFAICT, most/all have been “investigated”, and nothing at all particularly “criminal” uncovered), WTH is Lois Lerner??

She is related to the claims that the IRS was targeting right-wing groups in 2012 in denying them tax exempt status.

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jaunte  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:57:08am

iPhone13 Pro:

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Crush White Nationalism  Aug 14, 2022 • 9:59:37am
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Jay C  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:07:37am

re: #329 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

She is related to the claims that the IRS was targeting right-wing groups in 2012 in denying them tax exempt status.

So more RW bullshit, then: OK.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:10:14am

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

A source? Let’s wait and see what actually happens. I find it hard to believe that the only child he actually loves wouldn’t campaign for him.

I connected the link to the name of the gossip rag (OK!) in the quote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:11:13am
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:12:26am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol. I love those little “goldfish” and they are a great snack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:12:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:18:46am
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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:20:11am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #335 PhillyPretzel

Now I gotta add those to my grocery list.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:21:55am
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:27:04am
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Belafon  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:27:59am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:40:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:45:07am
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No Malarkey!  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:47:09am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

Godly values like raw dogging porn stars and stealing from children’s charities?

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Teukka  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:48:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 14, 2022 • 10:48:07am

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