Oh come on, you bot, you. Newspapers rarely do history. Yeah, we know about Abbas' role in Munich. It's been told and told. And told. Does this information have to be included in every news article where Abbas is mentioned?

I think it's time for Camera to publish their own newspaper, since it's so darned easy.

Hey Camera, you're not helping.

I read a lot and hadn't been aware of Abbas' involvement in Munich.

So, yes, this was news to me.

Anyhow, I think it's long past time the Munich athletes were formally remembered at the Olympics.

re: #2 Sophia77

I read a lot and hadn't been aware of Abbas' involvement in Munich.

So, yes, this was news to me.

Anyhow, I think it's long past time the Munich athletes were formally remembered at the Olympics.

Though he didn't know what the money was being spent for, longtime Fatah official Mahmoud Abbas, a.k.a. Abu Mazen, was responsible for the financing of the Munich attack. Abu Mazen could not be reached for comment regarding Abu Daoud's allegation.

Queen Elizabeth Met Ex-IRA Chief Martin McGuinness and now elected political leader. McGuinness, was the IRA's chief of staff when the terrorist group blew up the queen's cousin, Lord Mountbatten's yacht in 1979, killing him and three others.

re: #2 Sophia77

I read a lot and hadn't been aware of Abbas' involvement in Munich.

I'm surprised. Not kidding. I thought this was common knowledge. Even if it's not, then what is actually needed is another Jewish newspaper that writes parallel stories.

For instance, Ynet writes about events in Israel. Those current events determine their copy. Jews need a newspaper whose copy is determined by other news agencies--the articles are re-reported with more accuracy and depth.

One article can, and should be about the Olympic controversy. A large section of that article would be about Avery Brundage, a Henry Ford style Jew-hater, who played a prominent role in the 'covering over' of the incident. Even the athletes were sickened by his behavior. Brundage was an Olympic political power going back to 1936, when he forced two Jewish members of the US team to withdraw from competition--since he didn't want to anger Hitler.

re: #4 Bob Levin

I knew about it, but only because it was mentioned on the Wiki page for the Munich massacre that I read recently:

Munich Massacre: Abu Daoud

Abu Daoud was allowed safe passage through Israel in 1996 so he could attend a PLO meeting convened in the Gaza Strip for the purpose of rescinding an article in its charter that called for Israel's eradication. In his autobiography, From Jerusalem to Munich, first published in France in 1999, and later in a written interview with Sports Illustrated, Abu Daoud wrote that funds for Munich were provided by Mahmoud Abbas, Chairman of the PLO since 11 November 2004 and President of the Palestinian National Authority since 15 January 2005.

Though he claims he didn't know what the money was being spent for, longtime Fatah official Mahmoud Abbas, aka Abu Mazen, was responsible for the financing of the Munich attack.

Abu Daoud believes that if the Israelis knew that Mahmoud Abbas was the financier of the operation, the 1993 Oslo Accords wouldn't have been achieved, during which Mahmoud Abbas was seen in photo ops at the White House.

What surprises me is that Israel wasn't aware of it until decades after the attack, apparently. That it isn't written about now doesn't surprise me as it would be politically awkward for quite a few people (realpolitik and all that).

re: #5 CuriousLurker

I think they knew about it, since Israel also discovered the identities of the terrorists, and slowly went about executing them. Of course, this was not a popular operation, but Israel felt the message needed to be clear--especially after the world's blinkered aftermath of the Nazi regime. To show how clear this message was received, there was also great shock that Israel made a mistake by misidentifying one person--whose family has received a mysterious, regular check in mail ever since.

I find it mildly amusing that the Wiki article thinks Oslo could not have occurred if Israel knew about Abbas. Israel signed the agreement with Arafat. Arafat.

Realpolitik and all that. You got that right.

re: #6 Bob Levin

I find the idea realpolitik repugnant, but not as loathsome as "collateral damage". Call me naive, but I find both morally reprehensible in most instances, regardless of who is using the terms to justify things. Yes, I know a convincing case can be made for them, but they just don't sit well with my conscience, especially when I see photos of the results.

I'm glad Bouchiki's wife & children compensated, but no amount of money can replace a father's/husband's love. I seriously doubt the U.S. will be compensating anyone for "mistakes".

The story is a little more complex. They had the guy staked out, but one of the members of the team had this gut feeling that something wasn't right. Well, they learned from that, to really trust everyone's gut feelings. They weren't going to repeat that mistake. And to do that, they put more credence in gut feelings than many--even therapists.

They didn't view this at all as collateral damage. They murdered someone. And to this day, they suffer for it. I suspect it will be one factor in their demise, a demise in which we all participate. They will be doing heartfelt teshuva on Sunday.

It's unfortunate the things which must occur for us to reach the heart of our hearts, so to speak. I guess that's soul realpolitik.