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1 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 27, 2013 4:24:04pm

Too bad we didn’t have drones back then, because Willis seems to think they would have been just the ticket:

But terror cannot go without response. Iraq and other rogue nations cannot be allowed to possess terror weapons. Al Qaeda, Hamas, and other terror groups cannot be allowed to kill innocents in the name of “jihad” or other political beliefs with no moral grounding. America represents the idea and exercise of freedom, and in this case we should use our strength to rid the world of terror.

It is possible to deprive Iraq’s nuclear/biowar capacity without an invasion and occupation, possibly through a combination of air and missile strikes with support for Iraqis who come to us and seek help in forming democratic societies. The middle east, and the rest of the world, could see the example of an America aiding not despots and dictators – but “freedom loving people”, as the president likes to say.

Yet he knows exactly what constitutes ‘an eternal blot on your existence in this world and the next.’ Kinda like our Local Dating Fraud Monitor does.

2 Gus  Wed, Mar 27, 2013 4:45:20pm
If you supported the war, you were wrong. And even if you went on to be a great person or public servant, that is an eternal blot on your existence in this world and the next.

Talk about sanctimonious indignation. What is this a religion?

3 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 27, 2013 4:48:39pm

Some will just never be satisfied with being told they were right.

4 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:09:42pm

re: #1 wrenchwench

Too bad we didn’t have drones back then, because Willis seems to think they would have been just the ticket:

Yet he knows exactly what constitutes ‘an eternal blot on your existence in this world and the next.’ Kinda like our Local Dating Fraud Monitor does.

We had drones, but drones aren’t nearly as useful against an enemy with Saddam’s resources.

Oliver Willis was wrong about how Saddam Hussein could have been overthrown. It is a sad fact of history that Saddam’s system of repression and terror in Iraq had effectively eliminated any organized opposition to him out side of the Kurdish areas years before. Sending in anti-Saddam Iraqi exiles or using SpecOps personnel to create an insurgent movement would have been very difficult and unlikely to work, and it would have been condemned in much of the world as “illegal warfare” anyways.

Oliver Willis being wrong on Iraq: 2003-2013.

5 sauceruney  Wed, Mar 27, 2013 6:18:28pm

I’m a sanctimonious prick who didn’t read the whole thing, apparently. I didn’t see any of the drone crap.

6 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:15:38am

re: #5 sauceruney

I’m a sanctimonious prick who didn’t read the whole thing, apparently. I didn’t see any of the drone crap.

Willis linked to his statement from ten years ago. It was in there. He quoted a different section of that piece in the article linked at the top.

7 wrenchwench  Thu, Mar 28, 2013 8:16:50am

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

We had drones, but drones aren’t nearly as useful against an enemy with Saddam’s resources.

Oliver Willis was wrong about how Saddam Hussein could have been overthrown. It is a sad fact of history that Saddam’s system of repression and terror in Iraq had effectively eliminated any organized opposition to him out side of the Kurdish areas years before. Sending in anti-Saddam Iraqi exiles or using SpecOps personnel to create an insurgent movement would have been very difficult and unlikely to work, and it would have been condemned in much of the world as “illegal warfare” anyways.

Oliver Willis being wrong on Iraq: 2003-2013.

He was still right that the way it was done was wrong, too.


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