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1 Death Panel Truck  Jun 27, 2014 9:33:01pm

When the Watergate tapes proved John Dean’s allegations against Nixon were true, the so-called honorable Howard Baker trashed Dean by calling him “the worst criminal of Watergate,” and complained about Dean not “showing fidelity to his former boss.”

2 bratwurst  Jun 27, 2014 10:11:59pm

re: #1 Death Panel Truck

When the Watergate tapes proved John Dean’s allegations against Nixon were true, the so-called honorable Howard Baker trashed Dean by calling him “the worst criminal of Watergate,” and complained about Dean not “showing fidelity to his former boss.”

First of all, Baker clearly went into the hearings as a loyal Nixon man and believed in his innocence, but eventually changed his mind. You must have missed that part in my quote and in the obituaries themselves.

Second of all, Dean WAS a criminal. He was convicted of a felony, served 4 months in prison and was disbarred as a lawyer. He would have almost certainly received more punishment except for the fact that he cooperated so fully with the investigation.

Finally, since you use quote marks above I am sure it will be no problem for you to provide a link for those quotes. I can’t for the life of me locate either of them anywhere online.

3 Death Panel Truck  Jun 28, 2014 9:09:51am

The quotes are from “Watergate,” a 1994 BBC/Discovery Channel documentary.

I have the documentary, and have watched it several times. Sam Dash quotes Baker as having said Dean was “the worst criminal of Watergate.” (Seriously? The worst? Worse than Liddy, Hunt, or even the president?)

Dean did time. No shit. And yes, everyone knows Baker was loyal to Nixon. He went to the White House and assured Nixon that he had a friend on the committee (from the documentary.)

Also in the documentary, Baker himself relates his disgust at Dean for showing “not a hint of remorse” for not showing “fidelity to his former boss.”

I guess you must have missed my comment here: Link

ETA: Link You want proof? Start at the 28:30 mark.

4 Death Panel Truck  Jun 28, 2014 10:15:36am

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen the documentary and I was quoting from memory. I will admit to one error: Baker made the “worst criminal of Watergate” statement before the tapes were made public (a very stupid thing to say even before Dean’s first day of testimony), but the other statement I quoted was from 1994. The disgust in his voice is unmistakable. Twenty years later, he still bristled at what he considered Dean’s betrayal of Nixon. I seriously doubt Baker would have changed his mind about Nixon without corroborating evidence.

5 bratwurst  Jun 28, 2014 10:27:17am

re: #4 Death Panel Truck

I seriously doubt Baker would have changed his mind about Nixon without corroborating evidence.

So he needed strong evidence before he decided the President of the United States had committed impeachable offenses. Go figure.

My point is not that Baker was any kind of saint at all. I merely mean to point out that I find it amazing that a Republican Senator who Nixon was counting on to save his ass saw the light AND went on to a long career within the party afterwards. Whether you admire him or not (or disagree with his assessment of Dean), you have to admit a career like his is now virtually impossible in today’s political climate.

6 EPR-radar  Jun 30, 2014 4:09:43pm

re: #5 bratwurst

My point is not that Baker was any kind of saint at all. I merely mean to point out that I find it amazing that a Republican Senator who Nixon was counting on to save his ass saw the light AND went on to a long career within the party afterwards. Whether you admire him or not (or disagree with his assessment of Dean), you have to admit a career like his is now virtually impossible in today’s political climate.

Not only is a career like Baker’s impossible in the modern GOP, people like him are simply not present.

If the Watergate scandal were duplicated today, it would be inconceivable for the GOP president to face GOP support in the Senate for conviction on articles of impeachment.


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