re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still think that historians will see that America was at its peak between Jan 1 1992, with the collapse of the USSR and Sep 11, 2001…We then hung on for a while until November 2016 where we started going downhill.

We are still far, far away from a collapse along the lines of Rome or Byzantium but yes, we will have to sober up and see that we can no longer compare our role in the world to what it was before 2001.

I think it all went wrong on May 31, 2000.

That is when Survivor hit American TV.

Downhill since…

(Am I just being funny? Maybe maybe not. It sure didn’t help anything. It may have given us Trump.)