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lostlakehiker10/07/2011 8:46:51 pm PDT

re: #240 Obdicut

But you know that union elections are not like elections of other sorts. It’s silly to compare a democratic election of a representative with a vote on whether or not to unionize. The situations aren’t comparable.

Yes. And in order for unions to be anywhere near the level of bargaining power of the companies, the laws need to provide for that. Union-busting is really easy if there aren’t protections for union organizing, as we’ve seen by the constant eroding of union power and union membership. Most union-busting activities in the US turn out successful in the end. The anti-union side is winning.

Um, okay. If you don’t want to claim the idea of right to privacy as a conservative position, fine. I’m not sure what basis you are arguing for a secret ballot on other than some sort of right to privacy, though; can you explain?

Without a secret ballot, the man who votes against unionization has lost his privacy. He’s also, maybe, in for some unpleasantness if word gets around.

The whole point of “card check” is to set up sham elections where people vote “yes” to avoid trouble, not because they really want, in their private heart of hearts, to join.

Unions lose membership because workers, when free to reject them, often freely choose NO. It’s just a bad deal.