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lawhawk3/09/2010 9:13:57 am PST

re: #677 drcordell

J Street demonstrates that it is against Israel’s national security and demands that it made concession after concession for the sake of a peace process with a group of people that have no interest in peace or a 2-state solution.

Within Israel itself there is massive disagreement on fundamental issues such as settlements, the concept of land for peace, the barrier wall, withdrawal from the West Bank, the Gaza War. But if you’re in the United States and you share the same views that many in Israel hold, you’re labeled “anti-Israel” or if you’re not Jewish very possibly “anti-Semitic.”

Israel has tried for peace in every fashion imaginable- land for peace with Egypt, and that worked. They tried without land for peace with Jordan; that worked too.

They tried negotiated peace with the Palestinians - intifada’s 1, 2, and 3.

Israel provided civil administrative control to the Palestinians for all of Gaza and most of the West Bank under Oslo and the follow on agreements - the result being Palestinian terror attacks and bombings. Israel had no choice but to provide for Israel’s security and engaged in checkpoints and improved security measures.

They tried unilateral withdrawal from Gaza - suicide bombings followed by a rocket war when Israel built the security fence.

Every effort Israel has made to engage in a peace process with the Palestinians has been rebuffed - by the Palestinians who have no interest in a state of their own. They’d much rather have Israel.

Ignoring that plain truth shows that you have no interest in understanding the dynamics of the region and that you’re all too willing to listen to diplomats who are busy trying to invent and substitute their own reality for the facts as they are on the ground.

The history and the public opinion in Israel has always been to try and make peace, but each time Israel has done just that - to attempt peace with the Palestinians, it’s blown up in Israel’s face - literally and figuratively. The Palestinians have no one to blame but themselves for that situation. Only demanding that Palestinians fulfill their obligations and negotiate in good faith will start to change the situation, and even there the Palestinian leadership have no interest in doing so because they like the current situation just as it is - they don’t have to govern and lead and can simply blame Israel for all their woes.