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Barack Obama’s first interview since his inauguration went to Al Arabiya, the virulently antisemitic Arab satellite network that regularly broadcasts support for jihad and militant Islam. This is an absolutely horrible precedent, and the implied weakness will surely encourage jihadists worldwide—no matter what Obama thinks he’s “communicating” to them.

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This is the very same channel that allows Hamas rockets to be fired from their studio building in Gaza: Video: Al Arabiya Studio Used As Rocket Launching Site.

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332 comments
1 Shug  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:50:23am

religion of peace in our time
/

2 Florida Lady  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:50:45am

This is disgusting!

Also, hopin’ the Amrican media takes note that they got dissed by The One in favor of Jihad TV.

Nah, too much to ask …

3 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:51:32am
4 Randall Gross  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:52:13am

Beyond Carteresque

5 J.S.  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:52:36am

And CNN is crowing about Obama choosing an Arab Jihadist network to do his first formal television interview.

6 Shug  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:52:39am

“The US is not your enemy”

Not according to the men in funny hats carrying the DEATH TO AMERICA signs.

7 Cathypop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:52:41am

We truly have a jack-ass in the white house.

8 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:52:59am

A miscalculation ( and calling it that is charitable ) like this ends up costing lives. I can’t even begin to describe how depressing this is.

9 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:53:25am

Blood in the water, and we’re the chum.
Thanks alot, asshat.

10 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:53:51am

Because for the last 2000 years of Jihad, they really just hated George Bush, not America.

11 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:53:56am

How do you spell “clueless”?

12 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:54:06am

Why did he have to give an interview on Al Arabiya when he could have used our own anti-Israel networks, like Caliphate Nazi News?

Does he think this will stop Ahmadmanonhihad and the Mad Mullahs from attacking the Great Satan? They aren’t going to be satisfied with the Little Satan.

13 Florida Lady  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:54:09am

re: #5 J.S.

And CNN is crowing about Obama choosing an Arab Jihadist network to do his first formal television interview.

Even more disgusting.

14 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:54:09am

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.

15 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:54:13am

re: #7 Cathypop

We truly have a jack-ass in the white house.

I believe the term douchenozzle was settled on yesterday.
Don’t give him more respect than he deserves!

16 Lively  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:54:19am

When are they gonna start staying in the Lincoln Bedroom?

17 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:54:28am
18 Lively  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:54:49am

If only we would stop dictating. Then terrorists would stop killing.

19 J.S.  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:55:08am

An in The Zero’s Alternate Universe, it’s (of course) AmeriKKKa which has “dictators” and “dictates.” No dictators in the Arab world, of course!

20 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:55:23am

re: #17 buzzsawmonkey

Free healthcare will solve jihad!

Of course. If you’re sick, you’ll just get euthanised.

21 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:55:30am

Good job, shithead

22 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:55:31am

re: #14 MandyManners

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.

We have a comment in the running for the Top 10!

23 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:55:42am

This is like Carter, the Sequel, starting out with a recap of Carter, setting us back 20 years in one week.

24 MJ  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:55:42am

Rev. Wright is a happy man today.

25 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:55:54am
26 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:56:10am

re: #15 jwb7605

I believe the term douchenozzle was settled on yesterday.
Don’t give him more respect than he deserves!

Good point. Jackasses are useful animals.

27 Cathypop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:56:16am

re: #15 jwb7605

I believe the term douchenozzle was settled on yesterday.
Don’t give him more respect than he deserves!


I like that term.

28 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:56:17am

I can’t help but wonder if he suffered brain damage as a child.

29 oronpam  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:56:28am

The next four years is not going to go by quick.

Snub the vets inaugural ball, then go on Jihad TV…..WTF

30 Lively  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:56:30am

re: #24 MJ

Rev. Wright is a happy man today.

If he didn’t get ran over, he probably would have received a cabinet position.

31 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:56:46am

re: #23 Kosh’s Shadow

This is like Carter, the Sequel, starting out with a recap of Carter, setting us back 20 years in one week.

He set us back 8 in his first 2 days. At this rate, how long before we reach the 9th century?

32 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:56:54am

re: #5 J.S.

And CNN is crowing about Obama choosing an Arab Jihadist network to do his first formal television interview.


This makes me so sick.

33 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:57:00am

I predict a infidel backlash.

34 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:57:08am

an An AN!

35 jak  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:57:08am

Maybe we are approaching the end times. Stupidity, arrogance, and evil are all around us, and there is no viable means of protest. Of course it could be that islam is really a religion of peace after all.

36 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:57:15am

You know that giving an interview in the Arab Press shows Obama favors the Arabs over the Iranians. That’ll piss off a good third of the Moslem world, including and especially Gazans, Syria, and the Chinese.

37 faraway  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:57:47am

re: #11 pre-Boomer Marine brat

How do you spell “clueless”?

O-B-A-M-A

38 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:57:56am

re: #24 MJ

Rev. Wright is a happy man today.

Ditto Louis Farrakan (Calypso Louie).

39 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:57:57am

re: #31 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

He set us back 8 in his first 2 days. At this rate, how long before we reach the 9th century?

About another year or two, when Iran gets the bomb, with 0bama’s help, and sets them off in major US cities.

40 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:58:22am

Barack Hussein’s favorite cable news network?

41 Shug  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:58:24am

I wonder if they were secretly mocking him for being an abid

and a dhimmi

42 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:58:29am

Maybe if he could drone at the jihadists for long enough about hope and change and keeping our eyes fixed on the horizon while chasing our dreams of tomorrow with rising hopes… for the children… (etc. etc. etc.) they’d all commit suicide, like Ted’s seatmates in Airplane!.

43 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:58:36am

re: #36 Golem Akbar

You know that giving an interview in the Arab Press shows Obama favors the Arabs over the Iranians. That’ll piss off a good third of the Moslem world, including and especially Gazans, Syria, and the Chinese.


Then subtract the Arab racist factor.

44 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:58:41am

I don’t recall FDR doing an in depth interview on “DEUTCHLANDSENDER,” please correct me if I am wrong.

-S-

45 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:58:48am

re: #38 Golem Akbar

Ditto Louis Farrakan (Calypso Louie).


CAIR will be ululating today.

46 calvin coolidge  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:58:52am

It was a surprise that BO would do this. What wasn’t a surprise is that the Hamas correspondent was Keith Olbermann.

47 opinionated  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:58:57am
I do think that it is impossible for us to think only in terms of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict and not think in terms of what’s happening with Syria or Iran or Lebanon or Afghanistan and Pakistan. These things are interrelated.

What do the Islamic thugs in Afghanistan and Pakistan have to do with Israel, except if you buy the BS that all the Muslims would be pacifists if only Israel gave up more land?

They problems and violence and wars in those separate locations are not interrelated.

Strike that, they are interrelated. All the trouble comes from the common denominator of all those nations but Israel- ISLAM.

48 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:59:05am

re: #34 Ben Hur

an An AN!

Ah, so you’re a “hasher”.

On on!

49 turn  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:59:45am

I got pretty worked up about this when I read about it in the NYT this morning. Then I came to find out Bush was also interviewed with Al Arabiya and calmed down a bit. But the first interview in office? This really just plays right into the hands of the Islamicists. Not a good start Obama, and this gesture surely won’t do anything to unclench their fists.

50 J.S.  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:59:51am

re: #25 buzzsawmonkey

The problem is that Obama is speaking to the Arab world (with its dictators), and claiming that too frequently America “dictates” to the Arab world…in other words, AmeriKKKa has “dictators” and this has to stop. (This also, btw, plays into the Arab fantasy/conspiracy world, and guess who the “dictators” are of Mid East policy? — and I really don’t think this is an “accident.”)

51 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:59:56am

re: #28 vxbush

I can’t help but wonder if he suffered brain damage as a child.

Nah it was his early childhood education, wherever that may have taken place…

52 TimeQuake  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:00:03am

BOOOOOOOOOO!

/Is it too soon to boo the new prez?

53 Cognito  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:00:16am

re: #41 Shug

I wonder if they were secretly mocking him for being an abid

Or just as likely in some places, an abd.

(Arabic puns. Can’t be resisted.)

54 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:00:21am

re: #25 buzzsawmonkey

I don’t think Obama is a “dictator,” but I do think he’s a dick, with all the brains of a ‘tater.

And that Dan Rather… he thinks he’s top spud, but I think he’s just a common ‘tater.

55 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:00:28am

Gigantic ego. He really thinks that the muslim will love him.

56 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:00:33am

re: #48 Occasional Reader

Ah, so you’re a “hasher”.

On on!

That was even too obscure for me.

Unless of course you were referring to some kind Lebanese hash?

57 AuntAcid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:00:45am

re: #28 vxbush

I can’t help but wonder if he suffered brain damage as a child.

I hope that is the reason otherwise we are in deeper trouble than anyone could have imagined.

58 Lively  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:00:49am

re: #52 TimeQuake

BOOOOOOOOOO!

/Is it too soon to boo the new prez?

I don’t think that is allowed.

59 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:01:12am

This symbolism is just really bad for our troops. They are over in foreign lands fighting like crazy for us & this thing goes on jihad enabler TV.
His arrogance & vague loyalties are really disturbing

60 MrC_5150  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:01:17am

Obamallahu akbar.

61 faraway  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:01:32am

When Obama goes to a Muslim capital to give his big spoeech “to the Muslim world” (I thought he was our President?) in the next 90 days, will we begin by reciting the Muslim Call to Prayer in perfect Arabic?

62 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:01:38am

re: #49 turn

It’s bad enough that this was his first interiew but some of the things he says are downright ridiculous and things that the leader of the fre world should not be saying to those who wish to do us harm.

63 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:01:38am

re: #35 jak

Maybe we are approaching the end times. Stupidity, arrogance, and evil are all around us, and there is no viable means of protest. Of course it could be that islam is really a religion of peace after all.

Regarding your first two sentences:
I was talking to a thirty-ish liberal the other night at a birthday party for my daughter. We were discussing the History Channel, and we were both struck by series they had been running.
We disagree politically on several things, but both of us had that take.

64 Bumr50  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:05am

re: #28 vxbush

Hey! Have you tried this?

It worked for my grandpa- relatives.

65 johnnyreb  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:16am

I suspect we might be headed for serious trouble here. This mans ego has been so inflated by the MSM and his yes men, that he actually believes the hope/change bit. I feel he honestly thinks that all he really does have to do is sit down and yak with them and things will be all better.

Folks, this is an extremely dangerous turn of events and I feel it foreshadows huge problems very soon.

66 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:20am

re: #52 TimeQuake

BOOOOOOOOOO!

/Is it too soon to boo the new prez?

No, I’ve already declared his Presidency a failure…

67 sneezey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:23am

What a fool. In addition to having a holocaust denying head of state as the first person he called, he now has this dubious first. Here is the change he spoke of…

68 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:32am

First phone call to foreign leader >Palestinian Holocaust Denying Terrorist

First interview to foreign press >Jihad TV

Things seem to be going awfully well for America’s and the Western world’s enemies, wouldn’t you say? And all this, in just a week.

69 faraway  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:34am

I throw my shoe at you

70 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:42am

You can’t reason with these people. Islams version of ‘bipartisanship’ is the same as the Dems to Republicans. There isn’t any unless you choose to see it their way. Glad to know our Stimulus will include yearly Jizyah payments.

Unites States of Dhimmi’s. Let me know when the first city gets hit.

At least we know that 46% of Americans aren’t Dhimmi’s.

71 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:44am

re: #56 Ben Hur

That was even too obscure for me.

Unless of course you were referring to some kind Lebanese hash?

Hashing. AKA “drinkers with a running problem”. Rallying cry: “On-on!”

72 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:57am

A partial transcript… it’s worse than you can imagine.

Q: I want to ask you about the broader Muslim world, but let me – one final thing about the Palestinian-Israeli theater. There are many Palestinians and Israelis who are very frustrated now with the current conditions and they are losing hope, they are disillusioned, and they believe that time is running out on the two-state solution because – mainly because of the settlement activities in Palestinian-occupied territories.

Will it still be possible to see a Palestinian state — and you know the contours of it — within the first Obama administration?

THE PRESIDENT: I think it is possible for us to see a Palestinian state — I’m not going to put a time frame on it — that is contiguous, that allows freedom of movement for its people, that allows for trade with other countries, that allows the creation of businesses and commerce so that people have a better life.

And, look, I think anybody who has studied the region recognizes that the situation for the ordinary Palestinian in many cases has not improved. And the bottom line in all these talks and all these conversations is, is a child in the Palestinian Territories going to be better off? Do they have a future for themselves? And is the child in Israel going to feel confident about his or her safety and security? And if we can keep our focus on making their lives better and look forward, and not simply think about all the conflicts and tragedies of the past, then I think that we have an opportunity to make real progress.

But it is not going to be easy, and that’s why we’ve got George Mitchell going there. This is somebody with extraordinary patience as well as extraordinary skill, and that’s what’s going to be necessary.

Dangerous naivete. Hamas is a terrorist group dedicated to Israel’s destruction. It’s a religious obligation. They will lie, obfuscate, and engage in all manner of hudna, but it’s with one goal in mind. Obliteration of Israel.

There can be no two-state solution, not when the PA and Hamas and Fatah do not want one.

If and when Palestinians want a two-state solution, they will have one. They could have had one in 2000, but Arafat refused. When will the US demand concessions from the Palestinians instead of forcing Israel into a corner and undermining Israel’s security situation further?

When will the US demand Hamas release Shalit?
When will the US demand investigations into Hamas war crimes, crimes against humanity, and incitement to genocide?

We know the answers to this, and it’s that Obama has to be seen as doing something, even though the problems are intractable so long as Hamas is involved in the process, and even the Israelis aren’t that into destroying Hamas utterly and completely. So, we’ll get more running skirmishes and battles, until the rest of the world puts their foot down on Israel’s ability to defend itself, giving Hamas the upper hand.

73 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:03:13am

I have little doubt that Obama - and his followers - sincerely believe in the magical power of words.

His rhetoric alone has taken him all the way to the White House. Now all he needs to do is present his magic sentences to our enemies and they to will see the light.

74 MJ  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:03:14am

Saudi prince: U.S. action, not words, key in Mideast peace


“Al-Faisal said he believes the United States and Israel should negotiate with Hamas. Reminded that the two nations consider Hamas a terrorist organization, he said, “I think this is another of the things that has to be reviewed by President Obama.”’

[Link: www.cnn.com…]

Well, since Obama’s masters in Saudi Arabia order him to to talk to Hamas, you can bet it will happen within the next few months.

75 gop_patriot  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:03:31am

What an ass.

And over in the sidebar, from Reuters Politics:

Clinton Wants a “Comprehensive Dialogue” With China

All I can think of is all the super-sensitive technology leaks the last time the Clintons had official dealings with the Chinese. Scary. The day’s news just keeps getting better!

76 RedPepper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:02am

Guess an interview with Fox News woulda been too controversial …

77 opinionated  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:10am
……the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago, there’s no reason why we can’t restore that.

Read a newspaper. Read a history book.

In 1988 we had no trouble with the Muslim world?

No terror previously? No hate previously. No oil embargoes? No holding of American hostages? No bombing Marines in Lebanon? On and on and on.

A couple of years later we were at war there.

The much touted change is to ignorance.

78 faraway  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:16am

Obama can finally reveal he was not born in Hawaii, but was instead hiding in a well for hundreds of years.

79 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:25am

re: #55 Peacekeeper

They already do.

80 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:30am

re: #42 Occasional Reader

Maybe if he could drone at the jihadists for long enough about hope and change and keeping our eyes fixed on the horizon while chasing our dreams of tomorrow with rising hopes… for the children… (etc. etc. etc.) they’d all commit suicide, like Ted’s seatmates in Airplane!.

They do that anyway without his help. He did just encourage them to be in closer proximity to US civilians when they do it though, whether he thinks he did or not.

81 zato  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:30am

But does Barry expect that his rhetoric will make the terrorists just stop hating America, Israel, India, etc?

82 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:10am

“they to will see the light” = “they too will see the light”.

83 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:18am

And, how many people have been freed under Obama? Carter? Clinton? GWB is the devil in their eyes, but he did more for Muslims than all the of the President’s before him COMBINED. Obama will not free one person from tyranny. He wants to elevate the tyrants and legitimize them. More poverty, more ignorance, and more misguided rage is all that “the One’s” actions will produce.

84 MonkeySon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:19am

I noticed that he (obama), said that he wanted to get the muslim world/US relationship back to where it was 20-30 years ago…30 years ago was 1979 and guess who was president then? Yep, the peanut farmer.

85 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:20am

re: #28 vxbush

I can’t help but wonder if he suffered brain damage as a child.

Liberalism is a terrible way to abuse a child.

86 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:34am

re: #81 zato

I honestly think he believes that…

87 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:55am

re: #1 Shug

Here we go again.

88 bellamags  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:57am

If 9-11 did not unite moderate Muslims to act against Islamic extremists, nothing Obama can SAY will unite them. There is no respect. You have to have it to give it. He is not a bridge, this is not a grand gesture. The terrorists are not scrambling to answer this—- they are laughing at this weakness.

89 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:06:16am

re: #14 MandyManners

The “choking on marxism” cure that many of those conservatives envisioned is not something that is likely to happen in a day. Geez, you think this is bad now? The patient has only just realized it may have something lodged in its gullet, which it probably should not have attempted swallowing. You’ll be fit to be tied in 2 years, when the nation really starts turning blue and flailing. That’s how some see it. That America has to choke on this, to the point where America will either end — or expel that which made her sick, never to be tempted again. How many times have I seen it expressed, that maybe it has to get worse for it to get better?

I doubt they’re happy, Mandy. I don’t think emotion had much to do with it.

Again, if and when America sees mass graves, I’ll have a similar sentiment to yours, only regarding those who couldn’t find time to protest.

90 faraway  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:06:37am

re: #81 zato

But does Barry expect that his rhetoric will make the terrorists just stop hating America, Israel, India, etc?

Of course. Change you can believe in. They will make a simple change to all their signs from:
DEATH TO BUSH
to
DEATH TO RUSH

91 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:06:50am
#28 vxbush

I can’t help but wonder if he suffered brain damage as a child.

He was a red-diaper baby…That qualifies a child abuse in my book.

92 GOP Goalie  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:06:55am

re: #14 MandyManners

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.

Mandy, I hope you have macro or hotkey to type that phrase in a few keystrokes, otherwise you’re fingers are going to get REALLY tired in the next four years…

93 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:06:57am

That’s right, Barry, project weakness.

94 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:07:51am

re: #93 Ojoe

That’s right, Barry, project weakness.

He’s sobered by the reality of the situation.

95 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:07:59am

Pi$$ off the 0, turn on Rush Limbaugh’s show.

96 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:07:59am

This is just an open invitation to test America.

And there will be an epic fail if that happens. Obama is just not up to the task.

97 JohnnyReb  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:08:24am

re: #81 zato

But does Barry expect that his rhetoric will make the terrorists just stop hating America, Israel, India, etc?

Obviously you didn’t get the memo.

Here is how that bit works. First we have to work very hard to make sure nobody hates the US anymore. After we have appeased everyone, then naturally (through some sort of complicated or invisible practice similar to alchemy) this trickles down to the rest of the countries that the Muslims hate. A truly brilliant plan!

98 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:08:45am

Typical “if Ahmad only had his own falafel stand, the ancestral olive groves and the keys to his home in Jaffa” thinking.

99 opinionated  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:08:46am

We mourned, we cried, we are building memorials, we swore never to forget when the barbarians attacked our Nation and killed so may of our fellow citizens and less then a decade later we elect a President who believes his mission is to apologize to THEM. To sooth THEM.

What the hell is wrong with this country?

100 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:08:49am
101 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:08:57am

re: #96 WriterMom

It is above his testosterone level.

102 Steve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:14am

I know it is not but somehow… I wish that this could be treason.

103 AuntAcid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:41am

re: #73 Ringo the Gringo

I have little doubt that Obama - and his followers - sincerely believe in the magical power of words.

His rhetoric alone has taken him all the way to the White House. Now all he needs to do is present his magic sentences to our enemies and they too will see the light.

…through the magic looking glass.

104 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:50am

re: #89 Taqiyyotomist

The “choking on marxism” cure that many of those conservatives envisioned is not something that is likely to happen in a day. Geez, you think this is bad now? The patient has only just realized it may have something lodged in its gullet, which it probably should not have attempted swallowing. You’ll be fit to be tied in 2 years, when the nation really starts turning blue and flailing. That’s how some see it. That America has to choke on this, to the point where America will either end — or expel that which made her sick, never to be tempted again. How many times have I seen it expressed, that maybe it has to get worse for it to get better?

I doubt they’re happy, Mandy. I don’t think emotion had much to do with it.

Again, if and when America sees mass graves, I’ll have a similar sentiment to yours, only regarding those who couldn’t find time to protest.

Who is John Galt?…

105 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:10:02am

re: #99 opinionated

They want free shit. They feel entitled to whatever the government will give them.

The message of the GOP/Conservative movement is self reliance and hard work. Too many in this population nowadays are too fucking lazy to do it themselves.

106 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:10:48am

re: #102 Steve

Is it giving aid and comfort to the enemy? The case could be made. But Barry & his crowd sorta do not believe in enemies.


BBL
Got to find work.

107 iceman1960  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:10:49am

This man is such a dangerous fool.
The U.S. tends to dictate?
What does Islam do? Ask nicely?

108 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:11:58am

re: #106 Ojoe

To me, closing Gitmo and halting trials is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

But again, that’s just me…

109 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:12:58am

re: #108 tfc3rid

Also me.

The country is in for a rough time at least; probably in for a world of hurt.

110 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:13:04am

This tread shows the divide between the left and the right. The network he chose to speak is more moderate then Al Jazeera that Bush staffers gave interviews on. It is far from moderate by western standards but the best available if the new administration wants to show a new face to the moderate Arabs.
I watched Obama condemn the terrorists and offer a more positive alternative to return to a pre terrorist dialog with the Muslim’s. We may disagree with the chances of success, but I don’t see the downside of condemning the radicals, and trying to build a bridge to the moderates. If he tones down the hated by even a few points it’s worth the effort.
I’ll wait to see the reaction to the interview in the Arab world to see.

111 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:13:52am

re: #109 Ojoe

Sadly, I agree… And I know that I will most likely be one directly impacted in not-so-good ways by it…

112 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:04am

re: #110 avanti

Bush staffers are not the president.

113 SagamoreGal  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:35am

IF we survive the next four years of Hussein (PBUH), I really think he’s already setting the stage for a one-term presidency. We will be attacked so many times over the next four years on the homefront and on the doorsteps of our embassies throughout the world that anarchy will rule on the homefront. I’ve already talked to some semi-moonbatty co-workers who are starting to have buyer’s remorse.

114 faraway  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:51am

re: #99 opinionated

We mourned, we cried, we are building memorials, we swore never to forget when the barbarians attacked our Nation and killed so may of our fellow citizens and less then a decade later we elect a President who believes his mission is to apologize to THEM. To sooth THEM.

What the hell is wrong with this country?

I bet people would never have imagined it as they were falling out of those buildings.

115 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:53am

re: #110 avanti

Hatred? Now why in the World would we hate elements of the Muslim World? I can’t imagine a reason why? Can you?

116 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:56am

re: #36 Golem Akbar

You know that giving an interview in the Arab Press shows Obama favors the Arabs over the Iranians. That’ll piss off a good third of the Moslem world, including and especially Gazans, Syria, and the Chinese.

Chinese? Not too many Muslim Chinese, my friend.

117 iceman1960  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:15:10am

“Through peace he will destroy many”
I heard that somewhere and think it applies to O.
And I don’t think the many are the bad guys.

118 reddirtguy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:15:11am

On the one hand there’s this article from Counterterrorism Blog and on the other hand there’s obambi prostrating himself in front of hate TV. Which is it dodobird? We aren’t a problem or we are a problem? To the folks with the signs that say “Death to America!” I want to be a serious problem.

119 Steve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:15:12am

re: #97 JohnnyReb

Obviously you didn’t get the memo.

Here is how that bit works. First we have to work very hard to make sure nobody hates the US anymore. After we have appeased everyone, then naturally (through some sort of complicated or invisible practice similar to alchemy) this trickles down to the rest of the countries that the Muslims hate. A truly brilliant plan!

Pres. zerO is trying to use President Reagan theology. Trickle down worked for him it should surely work for “me the big O.”

Unfortunately O is an idiot and does not realize how it works.

120 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:15:19am

re: #113 SagamoreGal

We were already attacked in Yemen yesterday…

121 cblesz  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:07am

re: #110 avanti

This tread shows the divide between the left and the right. The network he chose to speak is more moderate then Al Jazeera that Bush staffers gave interviews on. It is far from moderate by western standards but the best available if the new administration wants to show a new face to the moderate Arabs.
I watched Obama condemn the terrorists and offer a more positive alternative to return to a pre terrorist dialog with the Muslim’s. We may disagree with the chances of success, but I don’t see the downside of condemning the radicals, and trying to build a bridge to the moderates. If he tones down the hated by even a few points it’s worth the effort.
I’ll wait to see the reaction to the interview in the Arab world to see.

What exactly is the alternative? And when was the period “pre-terrorist”?…9/10/01? Your intelligence is overwhelming.

122 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:09am

re: #96 WriterMom

This is just an open invitation to test America.

And there will be an epic fail if that happens. Obama is just not up to the task.

Are you kidding? Obama will surely apologize again & again. To Iran.

123 kmclay  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:44am

I think I’m going to be ill.

124 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:50am

Well, fellow lizards, see at the camps…provided me and mine make it there…

Baby blues and this FUCKER…for “leader”

Ain li lo mazel!

125 GOP Goalie  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:22am

re: #110 avanti

Really? ‘Moderate’ in that corner of the world usually means they smile at you before the Semtex goes off…

126 SurferDoc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:22am

re: #14 MandyManners

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.

They can’t even claim “unintended consequences”. They knew!

127 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:29am

re: #121 cblesz

What exactly is the alternative? And when was the period “pre-terrorist”?…9/10/01? Your intelligence is overunderwhelming.

Yeah, I went there…

128 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:34am

This guy is making George W. Bush look like a REAL Conservative!

129 reddirtguy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:38am

From London Daily Mail, a definition I liked -

A man who has done little with his life but has written about his achievements as if he had found the cure for cancer in between winning a marathon and building a nuclear reactor with his teeth. Victory for style over substance, hyperbole over history, rabble-raising over reality.

That’s our wunnerful prez.

130 faraway  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:18:04am

re: #110 avanti

Please name 10 moderates.

131 CMinMN  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:19:07am

Ya gotta love the CNN Middle East Analyst saying he was giddy about the interview and AC180 asking him to explain his giddiness. That’s journalism for ya!

132 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:19:18am
I think that what you’ll see is somebody who is listening, who is respectful, and who is trying to promote the interests not just of the United States, but also ordinary people who right now are suffering from poverty and a lack of opportunity.

No wonder the oath was flubbed.

“I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

I find nowhere where the President is required to promote the interests ofother then the people of the United States, care for their poverty or anything else.

133 apachegunner  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:19:22am

re: #104 Oh no…Sand People!

Who is John Galt?…


I make it 54% against 46%, we are currently in the minority

134 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:19:38am

re: #72 lawhawk

A partial transcript… it’s worse than you can imagine.

Dangerous naivete. Hamas is a terrorist group dedicated to Israel’s destruction. It’s a religious obligation. They will lie, obfuscate, and engage in all manner of hudna, but it’s with one goal in mind. Obliteration of Israel.

There can be no two-state solution, not when the PA and Hamas and Fatah do not want one.

If and when Palestinians want a two-state solution, they will have one. They could have had one in 2000, but Arafat refused. When will the US demand concessions from the Palestinians instead of forcing Israel into a corner and undermining Israel’s security situation further?

When will the US demand Hamas release Shalit?
When will the US demand investigations into Hamas war crimes, crimes against humanity, and incitement to genocide?

We know the answers to this, and it’s that Obama has to be seen as doing something, even though the problems are intractable so long as Hamas is involved in the process, and even the Israelis aren’t that into destroying Hamas utterly and completely. So, we’ll get more running skirmishes and battles, until the rest of the world puts their foot down on Israel’s ability to defend itself, giving Hamas the upper hand.

Worse, from this quote

mainly because of the settlement activities in Palestinian-occupied territories.


This says 0bama considers the “settlements” to be in areas that belong to the Palestinians. And he considers those the main problem, NOT the refusal of the Palestinians to recognize Israel.

And he doesn’t see that the worst terrorism is coming from an area where there are no Israeli “settlements” - Gaza.

He is throwing Israel under the bus.

135 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:19:39am

re: #126 SurferDoc

They can’t even claim “unintended consequences”. They knew!


I cannot wait for the newswomen who fried Palin to see what their new jobs will be under sha ria… yeah, her wold view was pretty limited…a WOMAN in OFFICE… with kids…

clueless bitches will be the first to realize the Change they thought they could believe in and rammed down the sheeple’s throats…

136 SurferDoc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:19:52am

re: #99 opinionated

We mourned, we cried, we are building memorials, we swore never to forget when the barbarians attacked our Nation and killed so may of our fellow citizens and less then a decade later we elect a President who believes his mission is to apologize to THEM. To sooth THEM.

What the hell is wrong with this country?

Democrats.

137 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:19:55am

This interview is a big “Fuck you” to the American people.

138 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:20:10am

re: #112 Ojoe

Bush staffers are not the president.

I agree, and the impact of the President himself at least trying will have a bigger impact.

139 cblesz  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:20:22am

Hey…have no fear!…Leon Panetta is on the case. Even if our wonderful President is encouraging an attack like nothing we have ever seen…Panetta is sure to foil it…

/sarcasm

140 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:21:30am

re: #73 Ringo the Gringo

I have little doubt that Obama - and his followers - sincerely believe in the magical power of words.
His rhetoric alone has taken him all the way to the White House. Now all he needs to do is present his magic sentences to our enemies and they to will see the light.

I think this is the inevitable result of an education system that teaches self-esteem, without demanding anything to earn it.

Obama is clearly very full of self respect, without having achieved anything to earn it. It is not illogical for him to think that he can solve these weighty problems with his silver tongue.
Not illogical, but dangerously naive…….

141 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:21:35am

re: #139 cblesz

But an attack like we have been expecting… Liberals will act as if they never thought ‘this’ could happen…

142 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:21:54am

re: #110 avanti

He could have interviewed with Al Hurra, a far more moderate Arab news network.

I don’t see the downside of condemning the radicals, and trying to build a bridge to the moderates.

The downside is that Obama is confusing the two. There are plenty of so-called moderates who are in fact working for the radicals. This is the same Obama who invited a Muslim Brotherhood front group to his national prayer service a few days ago.

143 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:03am

re: #114 faraway

I bet people would never have imagined it as they were falling out of those buildings.

I bet their murderers would never have believed it, or if they did, THEY truly died happy knowing their mission was successful.

144 cblesz  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:14am

re: #138 avanti

I agree, and the impact of the President himself at least trying will have a bigger impact.


Avanti…I must say you are really not that bright. You know there are other websites out there that you may enjoy. Try dailykos or Huffington Post.

145 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:19am

re: #138 avanti

Do you actually believe that the radicals will accept Obama? Not. A. Chance.

146 DrCruel  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:20am

I’m a Republican and pro-Israel, and I entirely disagree with the lead post. Obama is not “showing weakness”, he is trying to address directly the people who have heretofore received only pro-Left and Muslim extremist propaganda.

I think the CNN press reporters have it wrong - Obama is expressing the US position, which isn’t conciliatory at all. He calls the ideas of the Muslim extremists “bankrupt”, and challenges them to help their people instead of sowing terror and war. There wasn’t any hint of “appeasement” throughout.

I know the election was rancorous, and I know how unpleasant many supporters of Obama are. But we need to remember that this man is our president now, and deserves the respect due that office. If we are going to criticize what he does, it should be on specific words and deeds we can demonstrate.

For those who found appeasement in his comments, i would like to know which exact passages in his interview led you to that conclusion. Else I will assume that this criticism is based on simple partisan bias and ignore it.

This isn’t the Daily Kos. We aren’t Democrats, and should hold ourselves to higher standards. Let’s stick to the facts, and not our emotional commitment to the issues.

147 winston06  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:52am

Obamble is gonna be the new Jimmy Carter

148 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:23:00am

re: #110 avanti

This tread shows the divide between the left and the right. The network he chose to speak is more moderate then Al Jazeera that Bush staffers gave interviews on.

Al Arabiya is “moderate?” In which universe is that? Because in this one, that description is completely ridiculous:

[Link: www.memritv.org…]

149 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:23:44am

re: #146 DrCruel

Have you read the transcript?

150 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:24:00am

re: #130 faraway

Please name 10 moderates.


Yeah, sorry but this recent operation continues the pattern- Hamas sets up in the heart of women and children areas…shoots at Israel…Israel returns fire…women and children, as human shields, die…inhumane pieces of shit who care more about killing Jews than they do about their own wives and children, waill and scream about the dead…and the world wails with them…without asking…why did the rockets come from where they were?

Why do wanted men travel with their wives and children? Why is the world ignoring these questions…

why because Joooooooo hate is allowed, in fact, has increasing chi chi value at the cocktail circuit…

Nice job my fellow Jews…fucking happy now?

151 VioletTiger  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:24:19am

re: #11 pre-Boomer Marine brat

How do you spell “clueless”?


O B A M A
clueless

152 Cognito  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:25:32am

re: #148 Charles

Al Arabiya is “moderate?” In which universe is that? Because in this one, that description is completely ridiculous:

[Link: www.memritv.org…]

Al Arabiya is certainly broadly considered moderate, relative to, say, Al Jazeera.

I’m not cheering that Obama gave them an interview, but some of the more lopsided criticism here is belied by the fact that Bush also did several sit-down interviews with Arabiya.

153 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:25:35am

re: #96 WriterMom

This is just an open invitation to test America.

And there will be an epic fail if that happens. Obama is just not up to the task.

Remember, Joe Biden told us the test is coming. And that we may not like the initial results. And we still voted for this asshat.
Sheesh….it’s not like we weren’t warned……..

154 Elcid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:25:49am

What denomination of “Christian” was is was, Obama, again?

OH YEAH! The United God Damn America Church.

155 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:26:32am

re: #152 Cognito

But George W. Bush had an extremely different Worldview than does the current Commander in Chief.

156 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:26:37am

re: #125 GOP Goalie

Really? ‘Moderate’ in that corner of the world usually means they smile at you before the Semtex goes off…

Not all Muslim’s or Arabs are terrorist bombers. The hard part is convincing the masses that the radical’s are their real enemy, not the US or Israel, one country at a time. Israel made peace with Egypt, and that was once their biggest enemy.

157 akak  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:26:40am

re: #138 avanti

I agree, and the impact of the President himself at least trying will have a bigger impact.

“Do they not see us advancing on their borders”

what book was that again?

158 VioletTiger  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:26:48am

re: #152 Cognito

Al Arabiya is certainly broadly considered moderate, relative to, say, Al Jazeera.

I’m not cheering that Obama gave them an interview, but some of the more lopsided criticism here is belied by the fact that Bush also did several sit-down interviews with Arabiya.

Yes, but Bush didn’t spend 30 minutes apologizing for the US.

159 Haole  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:27:14am

WTf ? Is Axlerod doing some Astroturfing here at LGF?

160 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:27:19am

re: #146 DrCruel

Some of us have been watching what is broadcast on Al Arabiya for years, and your take on this is utterly naive. This “reaching out” stuff clearly plays well to an American audience, but to the extremists in the audience of Al Arabiya it comes across as nothing but weakness.

161 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:27:36am

re: #153 LGoPs

WE did enough of the warning. I was able to convince some to join our side but not nearly enough…

We knew what this one was going do… We understood the consequqnces of electing him.

162 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:27:45am

re: #152 Cognito

Al Arabiya is certainly broadly considered moderate, relative to, say, Al Jazeera.

I’m not cheering that Obama gave them an interview, but some of the more lopsided criticism here is belied by the fact that Bush also did several sit-down interviews with Arabiya.

And he was criticized for that here.

163 AuntAcid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:27:45am

“I’m sorry…” POTUS excuse #1.

164 Cognito  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:28:05am

re: #155 tfc3rid

But George W. Bush had an extremely different Worldview than does the current Commander in Chief.

That’s fine, and a legitimate criticism. But that’s a separate issue from going on Al Arabiya, in itself.

165 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:28:16am

re: #156 avanti

Not all Muslim’s or Arabs are terrorist bombers. The hard part is convincing the masses that the radical’s are their real enemy, not the US or Israel, one country at a time. Israel made peace with Egypt, and that was once their biggest enemy.

Umm, it is a “cold peace” in that weapons are still smuggled through tunnels in Egypt…that kind of peace will kill many…

Nice try…still not doing it…

166 reddirtguy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:28:26am

Mr. Avanti:

…I don’t see the downside of condemning the radicals, and trying to build a bridge to the moderates.

Say what?

What moderates? Any. Name one.

Please wake up.

(Poor guy’s delusional).

167 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:28:39am

re: #156 avanti

How is it possible that moderate Muslims would not view the radicals as their real enemy? I mean, they blow up and kill innocent people…

168 Cognito  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:05am

re: #162 Charles

And he was criticized for that here.

Sure. I’m not saying he was right for doing it. I’m saying that some people apparently think Obama invented this strategy. He didn’t.

169 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:24am

re: #159 Haole

WTf ? Is Axlerod doing some Astroturfing here at LGF?

A pox on that name forever…

170 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:30am

re: #164 Cognito

Right and I would say that a large portion of us disagreed with him doing so…

171 Bob Dillon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:39am

re: #25 buzzsawmonkey

I don’t think Obama is a “dictator,” but I do think he’s a dick, with all the brains of a ‘tater.

For me, this replaces Carter’s walk up Penn Ave vs riding during his inauguration as the most stupid thing a President has ever done.

172 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:42am

re: #152 Cognito

Al Arabiya is certainly broadly considered moderate, relative to, say, Al Jazeera.

I’m not cheering that Obama gave them an interview, but some of the more lopsided criticism here is belied by the fact that Bush also did several sit-down interviews with Arabiya.

Sean Penn is certainly broadly considered moderate, relative to, say, Michael Moore…uh…oh wait!

173 MonkeySon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:00am

re: that Bush also did several sit-down interviews with Arabiya.

Hmmm… I don’t recall Bush giving his FIRST sit-down interview as president with them….Of course, the symbolism of that is no doubt lost on you.

174 apachegunner  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:05am

re: #137 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

This interview is a big “Fuck you” to the American people.

nobama certainly isn’t a magnificant bastard is he.

175 akak  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:22am

re: #166 reddirtguy

Mr. Avanti:


Say what?

What moderates? Any. Name one.

Please wake up.

(Poor guy’s delusional).


/You haven’t seen the Muslims/Arabs protesting against Hamas?

176 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:50am

re: #129 reddirtguy

From London Daily Mail, a definition I liked -

That’s our wunnerful prez.

Well, he did manage to hypnotize 46% of the US, with the help of the MFM.

177 pat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:50am

In Obama Land, this passes for deep thought. Obama has proved himself a fool.

178 WitchDoctor  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:31:18am

re: #146 DrCruel

The problem is, he loses face in that part of the world by basically coming on their netword and condeming Israel equally. I’m fairly sure that to any even remotely terrorist-leaning fellows over there, that is equivalent to capitulation on our part. We have lost face.

For those on the left who claim to be so fricking enamoured with multiculturalism, I find it sadly amusing they can’t figure out that this is a huge hit to our respect over there. Huge.

I predict this is going to be an event we look back on and say, this is when this particular screw up (mideast policy) of the administration started (other screw ups are already in the works).

179 rawmuse  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:31:43am

It’s now open season on infidels, watch your back.

180 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:32:13am

re: #138 avanti

Trying what?

In your eyes and in their eyes, it is not the same thing being tried.

Obama & his crowd think they are trying for the “age of aquarius”. (Ooooooo).

I think the Islamic world will assume Obama is trying to give up.

I for one have no interest at all in that.

181 J.S.  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:32:39am

re: #131 CMinMN

That was Reza Aslan, the giddy one…(CNN also employs that Brit — the one who was found naked in Central Park, and who had some string tied to his private parts, etc., what’s his name? Oh well, such is the nature of the MSM…)

182 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:32:54am

re: #153 LGoPs

Remember, Joe Biden told us the test is coming. And that we may not like the initial results. And we still voted for this asshat.
Sheesh….it’s not like we weren’t warned……..

I didn’t vote for him. So how did he become king, anyway?

183 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:33:15am

re: #178 WitchDoctor

The problem is, he loses face in that part of the world by basically coming on their netword and condeming Israel equally. I’m fairly sure that to any even remotely terrorist-leaning fellows over there, that is equivalent to capitulation on our part. We have lost face.

For those on the left who claim to be so fricking enamoured with multiculturalism, I find it sadly amusing they can’t figure out that this is a huge hit to our respect over there. Huge.

I predict this is going to be an event we look back on and say, this is when this particular screw up (mideast policy) of the administration started (other screw ups are already in the works).

Peace through superior strength is a lost concept to the left. Hitting harder than your enemy is the only respect the Islamic world understands.

184 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:33:30am

re: #144 cblesz

Avanti…I must say you are really not that bright. You know there are other websites out there that you may enjoy. Try dailykos or Huffington Post.

I’ve been unwelcome on them for speaking up when they went loony left. Besides, there would be no discussion if I found a site that agreed with me politically 100% of the time.
Neither sites on the left or right agree with me all the time.
Even LGF would get pretty boring if all you guys could do is say “We are always good, they are always bad” all day, it’s not a black and white, left and right world.

185 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:33:30am

re: #175 akak

/You haven’t seen the Muslims/Arabs protesting against Hamas?

I will save the ASStoturfs the trouble…

See, no matter what it is a win for these assholes…

Hamas was “elected” so they are “legit” so if Israel attacks them for their terror acts…well, they are badddd

BUT

By same token, “we” are not supposed to “blame” the “poor people” who elected them in the first place because the elections may have been unfair or rigged…meaning the people may not really WANT terror in their name…so again…they are given a pass from any painful concession…of any kind…

186 reddirtguy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:34:16am

re: #175 akak


Damn. I missed that.

I just don’t get out enough.

187 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:34:59am

re: #176 Kosh’s Shadow

62 Million voters… That’s only 20% of ther American population…

188 VioletTiger  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:35:01am

re: #156 avanti

Not all Muslim’s or Arabs are terrorist bombers. The hard part is convincing the masses that the radical’s are their real enemy, not the US or Israel, one country at a time. Israel made peace with Egypt, and that was once their biggest enemy.

Of course they are all not terrorist bombers. But when do you ever hear any outcry from the so-called moderates? Do they come out publicly and condemn the bombings and terrorist acts? What are they doing to prevent more terrorism? Does silence indicate some level of agreement?

189 notutopia  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:36:04am

I posted this interview vid last night.
Please view THIS version of Obamas interview.
There is a section on this vid that is duplicated and then a section of importance that was edited OUT of the CNN
vid.
[Link: williamamos.wordpress.com…]

“The US is not your enemy”

See at 7:36 on the vid. Obama is asked a question specifically regarding accomplishments of “his first administration”.

190 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:36:09am

re: #182 Kosh’s Shadow

I didn’t vote for him. So how did he become king, anyway?

I didn’t either. He became king through a massive dereliction of duty by the MFM, aided by a large proportion of our own population being somnolent most of the time and waking up just long enough to be spoon fed their daily diet of propoganda…….

191 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:36:18am

Has 0bama done anything for any non-Muslim Americans since he’s been in office?
Just asking as I sit here thinking about how on earth Detroit will make a car that gets 35 MPG.
We’re going to not but ”foreign oil,” not drill here, not have new electric plants to power the electric cars and now we are kissing up to Islam though Jihad TV?
When do the 53% who voted for this guy start to ”get it?”

192 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:36:41am

re: #184 avanti

I’ve been unwelcome on them for speaking up when they went loony left. Besides, there would be no discussion if I found a site that agreed with me politically 100% of the time.
Neither sites on the left or right agree with me all the time.
Even LGF would get pretty boring if all you guys could do is say “We are always good, they are always bad” all day, it’s not a black and white, left and right world.

granted, but there is a litmus test of sorts here-

1. you must provide COGENT validation and support for your position…unless you are the Vapid Proclaimer, who I ignore out of a need to not be banned

2. You will be asked for it at every turn

3. You cannot really expect people to accept what you say without that support- otherwise it is KosKrap and Hufpoopoo…and will be treated as such…

So you know

193 mattm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:37:29am

I said I would give him a chance to do the right things. Sorry Mr. President, you have failed.

194 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:38:08am

re: #193 mattm

I said I would give him a chance to do the right things. Sorry Mr. President, you have failed.

Agreed. He has done everything completely wrong…

195 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:38:20am

re: #174 apachegunner

nobama certainly isn’t a magnificant bastard is he.

His proctologist must love him. He’s a perfect asshole.

196 MarineGrunt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:38:51am

Did Obama bring his own vaseline, or does Al Arabiya supply it

197 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:39:57am

re: #190 LGoPs

I didn’t either. He became king through a massive dereliction of duty by the MFM, aided by a large proportion of our own population being somnolent most of the time and waking up just long enough to be spoon fed their daily diet of propoganda…….

For a minute, I thought it was because the Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water.
Then I realized he wouldn’t have touched a sword. It would have had to have been a white flag.

198 J.S.  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:40:01am

Does anyone have a link to the full transcript of this interview?

199 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:40:01am

re: #148 Charles

Al Arabiya is “moderate?” In which universe is that? Because in this one, that description is completely ridiculous:

[Link: www.memritv.org…]

Charles, I said more moderate by Arab standards. Al Jazzera is far more popular, but shunning them for Al Arabya makes sense. If Fox TV or CNN was popular in the Arab world that would have been a better choice.

200 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:40:23am

re: #191 mean Gene

35 mpg cars are no problem.

I had one of these, it was fun, actually.

201 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:40:26am

re: #193 mattm

I said I would give him a chance to do the right things. Sorry Mr. President, you have failed.

And in ways that wil be impossible to repair without that which he claims to hate…

And Samuel said to Saul- because you failed to heed the words- you have been merciful when you should have acted without mercy, and you have acted without mercy when justice demanded mercy …

Refusing to act in the face of evil is to aid evil in the most crucial way…to give it strength and make it legit…

dear leader has not acted in my name…

202 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:40:53am

re: #196 MarineGrunt

Did Obama bring his own vaseline, or does Al Arabiya supply it

It is petroleum jelly…

203 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:41:23am

re: #199 avanti

Charles, I said more moderate by Arab standards. Al Jazzera is far more popular, but shunning them for Al Arabya makes sense. If Fox TV or CNN was popular in the Arab world that would have been a better choice.

There is no place for moral relativism in this war…

204 jak  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:42:35am

re: #132 Opinionated

That limiting view of the Constitution is sooo constraining in the liberal world view.
The point that the liberals can’t seem to understand is that the Constitution was essentially a contract between the people of the United States and their representative government, not an arbitrary agreement It did not, and rationally cannot, extend to those outside the United States that don’t believe that they are part of that contract, i.e., Chinese, Europeans, Saudi Arabians, Al-Quaeda, etc.

205 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:43:49am

re: #198 J.S.

The morning DT had a link… I read it from there… Dispicable…

I will find it for you.

206 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:44:44am

re: #202 DisturbedEma

It is petroleum jelly…

*rimshot*

207 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:45:27am

re: #12 Kosh’s Shadow

Why did he have to give an interview on Al Arabiya when he could have used our own anti-Israel networks, like Caliphate Nazi News?

Does he think this will stop Ahmadmanonhihad and the Mad Mullahs from attacking the Great Satan?

apparently not….. at least not like anyone who understands the problem AND who cares about America and the West…..

208 MarineGrunt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:45:29am

re: #202 DisturbedEma

It is petroleum jelly…

Jiffy Lube?

209 jak  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:45:32am

re: #206 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A by-product readily available from the Saudis

210 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:46:55am

re: #207 redc1c4

Obama apparently thinks he can dodge the choice between having either enemies or overlords.

211 notutopia  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:47:03am

Here is the full Al Arabiya Obama interview re: #198 J.S.

transcript
[Link: www.newsvine.com…]

212 Land Shark  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:47:44am

The President of the United States giving an interview on a Islamic terrorist supporting TV network? Now that’s some change you can believe in. If you’re an America hating Islamic terrorist, that is.

Change!

213 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:47:56am

re: #192 DisturbedEma

granted, but there is a litmus test of sorts here-

1. you must provide COGENT validation and support for your position…unless you are the Vapid Proclaimer, who I ignore out of a need to not be banned

2. You will be asked for it at every turn

3. You cannot really expect people to accept what you say without that support- otherwise it is KosKrap and Hufpoopoo…and will be treated as such…

So you know

OK, why the outrage about Obama on the same network that Bush Your text to link…

214 JohnnyReb  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:47:58am

re: #178 WitchDoctor

I too think most people are missing this aspect of what he did. Respect in the Middle East has to be earned. President Bush did that right after 9/11. President Obama just lost that respect.

215 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:50:11am

re: #212 Land Shark

The President of the United States giving an interview on a Islamic terrorist supporting TV network? Now that’s some change you can believe in. If you’re an America hating Islamic terrorist, that is.

Change!

I’ll change the channel, thank you.

216 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:50:59am

re: #213 avanti

‘mung other things it was not the first interview Bush gave.

217 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:51:25am

re: #213 avanti

We have been through this…

1. First interview since becoming President.

2. Different tone/Worldview than President Bush (conciliatory, terrorism = extremist violence, diplomacy can work)

3. We hated the fact that Bush appeared on this ‘network’.

218 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:51:53am

re: #212 Land Shark

The President of the United States giving an interview on a Islamic terrorist supporting TV network? Now that’s some change you can believe in. If you’re an America hating Islamic terrorist, that is.

Change!

i guess the smoke from the cracked tube is blocking the signal for the remote……

219 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:52:03am

re: #213 avanti

Sorry, here’s the link
Bush

220 J.S.  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:52:12am

re: #211 notutopia

Thank you for providing that link (I had only listened to the interview…not actually read the transcript..)

221 JacksonTn  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:54:07am

re: #146 DrCruel

I’m a Republican and pro-Israel, and I entirely disagree with the lead post. Obama is not “showing weakness”, he is trying to address directly the people who have heretofore received only pro-Left and Muslim extremist propaganda.

I think the CNN press reporters have it wrong - Obama is expressing the US position, which isn’t conciliatory at all. He calls the ideas of the Muslim extremists “bankrupt”, and challenges them to help their people instead of sowing terror and war. There wasn’t any hint of “appeasement” throughout.

I know the election was rancorous, and I know how unpleasant many supporters of Obama are. But we need to remember that this man is our president now, and deserves the respect due that office. If we are going to criticize what he does, it should be on specific words and deeds we can demonstrate.

For those who found appeasement in his comments, i would like to know which exact passages in his interview led you to that conclusion. Else I will assume that this criticism is based on simple partisan bias and ignore it.

This isn’t the Daily Kos. We aren’t Democrats, and should hold ourselves to higher standards. Let’s stick to the facts, and not our emotional commitment to the issues.

Did you vote for Obama? …It is amazing at the people who come out of the woodwork to defend Obama …do you find nothing else on here worth discussing? …or do you just choose to post to defend him? …just wondering …

222 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:54:33am

re: #212 Land Shark

The President of the United States giving an interview on a Islamic terrorist supporting TV network? Now that’s some change you can believe in. If you’re an America hating Islamic terrorist, that is.

Change!

OK, no change there, Bush did the same. What exactly is the difference other then party affiliation ?

223 notutopia  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:54:54am

re: #211 notutopia

Here is the full Al Arabiya Obama interview

transcript
[Link: www.newsvine.com…]

Interesting, the transcript has also left out the question that included his “first administration” that is in THIS version of the
video.
[Link: williamamos.wordpress.com…]

Do they already know something we the voters haven’t been told…..

224 VoBan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:55:30am

“Will The United States ever live with a nuclear Iran?”


(still waiting for an answer besides… something)

Actually, he’s doing better. Only 81 “ums” during his speaking time (not counting double and triple ums); that’s about 6 per minute. During the runoff, it was running over 11 per minute. (yes, I was that nitpicky)

225 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:55:56am
226 notutopia  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:56:37am

re: #220 J.S.

Thank you for providing that link (I had only listened to the interview…not actually read the transcript..)

See my 223. There has been some convenient editing
from the CNN vid and from the transcripts that are found in the vid I posted from williamamos’ site.

227 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:57:34am

As others have pointed out, he is not the first potus to give them an interview. He is the first one to use the tired moral equivalence of “All religions have extremists.” Yeah, he should know after having listed to Wright’s trash talking lunacy for 20 years.

228 bellamags  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:58:44am

re: #222 avanti

OK, no change there, Bush did the same. What exactly is the difference other then party affiliation ?

Its what he’s saying, not the fact that he’s appearing. Bush spoke with missiles, Obama speaks, he misses.

229 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:01:18am

re: #216 Ojoe

‘mung other things it was not the first interview Bush gave.

By opinion is that it was the first because he feels the mid east terrorist threat is pretty high up. If he choose CNN or MSNBC, you’d likely complain that he did not choose Fox.
If you think we are having discussion here, you should see the leftie sites bitching about him drifting right. :)

230 notutopia  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:02:03am

And The Huff Post also has the exact same transcript.
It’s been edited as well.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

231 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:03:58am

One week into his new assignment, Agent Ö reports back to headquarters.

232 Rexatosis  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:05:30am

President Obama makes a fundamental mistake in his attempt to soothe the Islamic world. It was not the United States and the West that choose to be the “enemy” of the Islamic world. It is the Islamic world (or atleast large segments of it) that has choosen to be the “enemy” of the United States and the West. The only ones who can change that choice live in the Islamic world. We, in the West, can only choose whether we wish to defend ourselves from our self-choosen enemies or fall to them.

233 obscured by clouds  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:06:19am

I haven’t watched the interview. Did Obama speak in English or Arabic?

234 Kaymad  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:06:52am

Obama get’s it! Muslims were always upset about Bush tax cuts. So much so that they had to fly planes into our buildings. Obama is against tax cuts, so they are going to love him.

235 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:12:28am

re: #229 avanti

If he choose CNN or MSNBC, you’d likely complain that he did not choose Fox.

Bullshit!

236 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:12:49am

re: #229 avanti

By opinion is that it was the first because he feels the mid east terrorist threat is pretty high up. If he choose CNN or MSNBC, you’d likely complain that he did not choose Fox.
If you think we are having discussion here, you should see the leftie sites bitching about him drifting right. :)

Just a note to taxfreekiller and your ding downs of most every comment I make. Have a party if it makes you happy, but I get it, I won’t make your MySpace friends page.

237 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:13:06am

re: #213 avanti

OK, why the outrage about Obama on the same network that Bush Your text to link…


Ok- you are late to the game…I was a democrat until this election…so I was not here…

AS a recovering democrat I am outraged at this assO because he aASSumed the position of weakness at a time where strength was warranted…

Democrat should not equal doormat

238 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:13:45am

re: #236 avanti

Just a note to taxfreekiller and your ding downs of most every comment I make. Have a party if it makes you happy, but I get it, I won’t make your MySpace friends page.

myspace is played out…get with the 21rst century…

239 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:14:32am

re: #235 Sharmuta

Bullshit!

TRoll…I mean totally agree with you about this one Sharm…

240 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:15:07am

re: #233 obscured by clouds

I haven’t watched the interview. Did Obama speak in English or Arabic?

Hard to say…he was using both sides of his mouth at the time…

241 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:16:36am

re: #229 avanti

By opinion is that it was the first because he feels the mid east terrorist threat is pretty high up. If he choose CNN or MSNBC, you’d likely complain that he did not choose Fox.
If you think we are having discussion here, you should see the leftie sites bitching about him drifting right. :)


Our question would probably be would he ever choose Fox, and when.

Got some lefty links?

242 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:17:52am

OK- I read the thread before I watched the video- WTF?!

The Presidents’ job is NOT to express to the American people what the dreams and hope of muslims are. His job is to uphold and defend the Constitution and the American people!

243 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:18:05am

re: #238 DisturbedEma

myspace is played out…get with the 21rst century…

21st century ? I’m stuck in the 50’s.

244 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:18:32am

re: #236 avanti

I don’t do myspace or facebook or any of that shit. Nice try.

245 J.S.  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:18:53am

re: #223 notutopia

I listened to the video link you provided and compared it to the transcript…I couldn’t find anything edited out…(the video repeats a certain segment — like there’s a glitch in the video…)…What’s been edited out? (is there a transcript of the edited out bits anywhere?)

246 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:20:18am

re: #89 Taqiyyotomist

The “choking on marxism” cure that many of those conservatives envisioned is not something that is likely to happen in a day. Geez, you think this is bad now? The patient has only just realized it may have something lodged in its gullet, which it probably should not have attempted swallowing. You’ll be fit to be tied in 2 years, when the nation really starts turning blue and flailing. That’s how some see it. That America has to choke on this, to the point where America will either end — or expel that which made her sick, never to be tempted again. How many times have I seen it expressed, that maybe it has to get worse for it to get better?

I doubt they’re happy, Mandy. I don’t think emotion had much to do with it.

Again, if and when America sees mass graves, I’ll have a similar sentiment to yours, only regarding those who couldn’t find time to protest.

If we don’t chose our best candidates, we end up with the dregs.

247 badger1970  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:20:30am

Some people are under the delusion that McPain actually had a chance of winning against “the one” and by voting third party was the gravest of all sins. Put the horse out of its misery all ready.

All this does is confirm for Isreal that the US of A doesn’t give a sheet about them and gives arab jihadists (redundant term) go-ahead to continue business as usual.

248 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:21:16am

I’ve also not dinged you down on previous threads, avanti. So bite me.

249 jayzee  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:22:59am

This is made all the more disgusting in light of the fact the President boycotted Fox during the campaign.
A debatable right wing bias-BAD
An unquestionable terrorist/islamist bias-GOOD

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com…]

Sorry, an I-D 10 T issue resulted in me posting this on the wrong thread.

250 right_wing2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:27:40am

Disgusting.

Did the Chosen One bend over & grab his ankles for them too?

251 formercorpsman  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:28:39am

re: #250 right_wing2

Actually no. He is bending all of us over, and requesting we grab ours.

252 Picayune  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:28:41am

“Obama called for a new partnership with the Muslim world “based on mutual respect and mutual interest.” He talked about growing up in Indonesia, the Mu
slim world’s most populous nation, and noted that he has Muslim relatives.”

No shit! Muslim relatives, What? Who knew, surly not the MSM w/ their “hear no evil, see no evil”, and especially “speak no evil” MO concerning any and all their coverage of the holy O.

Hey, O, remember Reagan’s admonition - “trust, but verify”, when it comes to all this newly espoused “mutual respect and interest” with members of the ROP that train to fly planes into buildings, but not land them. If not, ya better start flying CAP over all US major domestic cities (targets).

One slip, and you’re toast in US politics. Good luck w/ this move, Cool Dude!

see article:[Link: apnews.myway.com…]

253 Joan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:28:57am

Captain Jean Luc Picard, starship Enterprise, United Federation of Planets fulfills the Prime Directive….wait! No! This is not the alternative universe where good intentions and sweet reason disarm the Klingons.

The Prom King is a Poppinjay

254 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:31:39am

re: #248 Sharmuta

I’ve also not dinged you down on previous threads, avanti. So bite me.

You ding me down with the post you disagree with, and I’m cool with that, just the few that drop 20 in one thread, even if it’s a just a requested link gets old.

255 Nadnerb  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:32:40am

We really don’t know who Barry is. He sure does not seem like a regular American with his internationalist lefty stripe. I can’t believe this is the guy at the helm right now-with the economy as it is, with Iran on the cusp of nukedom. This just dosen’t seem real….

My Grandma Faye, 95 years old this year, thinks that our enemies are going to “try him out.” I tend to agree with her wisdom, and his naivete and oblivious behavior support this. I’m very afraid for the future of our country.

256 realwest  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:34:14am

I wish, just for once, that SOMEONE whom Obama will actually listen to, would tell him he is the President of the United States of America, not of the World. His job is to look out for the best interests of America, not the best interests of any other nation unless those interests coincide with the United States’ interests (like say, Israel - a democratic government which has gone SO FAR out of it’s way with its ACTIONS to make peace with the Muslim World, that it has jeopardized the safety of IT’S citizens).
Don’t bother with talking the talk, Mr. President, just Walk the Walk.

257 J.S.  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:35:08am

Here’s my take on why this will be considered an appeasement to the Arab world:

1) Obama expressed his preference to speak FIRST to an Arab television network, shunning American networks. It thus gives them a sense of primacy, their considerations put first and foremost, American interests second.
2) Repeatedly, Obama expressed a desire to communicate a “new message” to the Arab and Muslim world. And, the new message is — America is your friend and new-found ally. America is “ready to initiate a new partnership based on mutual respect and mutual interest.”
3) Obama pointedly stated that Israel is an ally of the United States. Then, he stated: “They will not stop being a strong ally of the United States.” Translation: “What ya want me to do, eh? They want to be an ally of the United States — not that I like this situation in the least, but, hey, they want to be allies. My hands are tied.”
4) In the past the United States has started off by dictating to the Arab world, but now the United States will cease/quiet its dictators (and, hey, we all know who those little fascist dictators were in the United States, now don’t we? those ones who were dictating America’s foreign policy - you know, those cannibal honcos.) And now, at long last, America will listen to the Arab World. In addition, as yet another feather in the cap of Arabs, Obama will give an address in a Muslim capital within the first 100 days of his administration. Let us All bow to Mecca..
5) Obama continuously reassures Arabs that Obama “is listening, who is respectful, and who is trying to promote the interests not just of the United States” but of the Arab World, and he feels their pain, their suffering, he understands their grievances (especially with the honcos), cause he’s got Muslims in the family, he knows the Arabs’ impoverishment, their penury, the injustices they must endure at the hands of arrogant aggressors…(yeah, we’ve heard this all before…)

258 namath  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:37:46am

My recollection is that Isreal got an Intifada the last time they installed a more liberal government. Is history forever to be ignored?

259 infidel4ever  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:39:31am

He is making himself into a bridge to the Muslim world?

Heh. Those same Muslims are going to walk right over Mr. Bridge into their World Caliphate if they get the chance.

260 callahan23  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:40:04am

Did BH 0bama actually say the words:

“I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God.”


maybe even in Arabic in the outtakes?
/
Ooh, that stung, even only copy ‘n pasting that phrase into the comment./

261 abolitionist  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:43:02am

The Won uses they rather often when referring to people he supposedly represents, as my president. This is not a good sign of things to come.

262 yenta-fada  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:47:53am

Obama is doing precisely what Condi Rice did. He is of the mindset that the Palestinian people are in the same position as poor black people in America. He is fighting FOR the Palestinians to have “equal rights” which means whitey/Israel has to pay for their role as oppressors. He has, since early years developed a world view which completely ignores FACTS if they conflict with his ideology. He disowns the white part of himself as the enemy and has to prove that the black part is somehow superior. Bodes ill for Israel, not to mention the few remaining democracies in the world.

263 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:48:46am

re: #242 Sharmuta

OK- I read the thread before I watched the video- WTF?!

The Presidents’ job is NOT to express to the American people what the dreams and hope of muslims are. His job is to uphold and defend the Constitution and the American people!

There is NO excuse for this- he took the oath of office TWICE. No excuse.

264 FlagPony  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:52:19am

re: #221 JacksonTn
Not appeasement?! You sir are not looking with an objective eye. And for you to even think that half the things i have read in this thread are close to the stupidity and hatred on KOS. Now if i would have said something like may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your scrotum…. now that would have been along the lines of the hatred from the kos…but i didn’t say that so it doesn’t count!

265 FlagPony  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:52:46am

His number one job is to protect and defend the united states, not smooth things over with the muslim world period! Calling us a nation of muslims, jews, christians, etc? how many muslims signed the declaration of independence? NONE!
That is insulting.

266 avanti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:55:02am

re: #257 J.S.

Excellent post, sharing your opinion, and even though I don’t agree on many points, I like to hear it. Chances are, neither of us will get it 100% right when the dust settles.
The Arab world will always see the world differently, as the letter at the link below will show. They have the hope and change thing going, but lay way too much blame on the west, but it gives a good prospective on how far apart we are. Much of this letter is dead wrong in it’s prospective, but there are tiny bits of logic here and there along with the self serving propaganda.

Arab news

267 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:07:06am

Butt monkey.

268 Dripping Sarcasm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:09:41am
“…This is an absolutely horrible precedent,…”

Charles,

Well, DUhhhh! That’s not exactly world shaking or profound. I’ve been saying for…

Oops. Sorry, Charles. My bad. I thought you said,

“…This is an absolutely horrible president…”

Actually, either word works okay, come to think of it….

269 J.S.  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:16:16am

re: #266 avanti

I did not include other problematic aspects of Obama’s interview (his willingness to pussy-foot around with Iran; his fictitious claim that Iran only supported terrorism “in the past” — here’s the quote with respect to Iran: “their support of terrorist organizations in the past” — as if Iran doesn’t support terrorist organizations today — what world does Obama inhabit? Must be an Arab one — where murderous suicide bombers are deemed to be “pacifists” and those who attempt to mount a defense are described as the “aggressors.” Yeah, that world. And then there’s Obama’s other moral equivalencies; in the same breath that he refers to “extremist organizations” (note the euphemism), he quickly adds “whether Muslim or other faith in the past”, I’m assuming he’s referring to the Crusaders (?), I could be wrong about who Obama is actually referring to, but in the standard boiler-plate of the Islamists it has to be “the Crusaders.” In fact, much of the phrases of Obama — the admonishment not to paint the Muslim world with a broad brush, etc., I’ve heard repeated over and over and over again by Islamists).

But as for the Arab news “letter” — well, it’s just more of the same, more of the whining, more of the sob story (it’s really, really, pathetic — over and over it’s always what the Arabs were in the past, what they’ve now been reduced to, through no fault of their own, of course, and it’s always, always somebody else’s fault. Again, truly pathetic. The Arab world needs to become critical of itself, and try a little self reliance…But I actually don’t believe it’s part of their culture — they like/want to be ruled by dictators…it’s very safe for all parties concerned…Freedom is hard and dangerous and is not “secure.”)

270 Ron Shaw  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:28:53am

Bin Laden has to be dancing in his cave.

I hope the dopes who voted for this fully-painted Ringling Bros. Barnum and Bailey clown are getting their jiggies on…the epitome of disgusting!

271 Irish Rose  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:33:59am

re: #14 MandyManners

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.

Ten thousand updings.

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: if even one innocent American is killed on American soil because this flaming nacissist insists on “making nice” with terrorists and thugs, I’m going to be among the first in line screaming for his impeachement.

Double ditto if our men and women with boots on the ground have to sacrifice even more of their lives and limbs because of the misguided, incompetent ignorance of their CIC.

272 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:36:31am

From NRO’s Michael Ledeen’s post:

Q Will the United States ever live with a nuclear Iran? And if not, how far are you going in the direction of preventing it?

{Obama hits the dance floor:}

THE PRESIDENT: You know, I said during the campaign that it is very important for us to make sure that we are using all the tools of U.S. power, including diplomacy, in our relationship with Iran.

Now, the Iranian people are a great people, and Persian civilization is a great civilization. Iran has acted in ways that’s not conducive to peace and prosperity in the region: their threats against Israel; their pursuit of a nuclear weapon which could potentially set off an arms race in the region that would make everybody less safe; their support of terrorist organizations in the past — none of these things have (sic) been helpful.

But I do think that it is important for us to be willing to talk to Iran, to express very clearly where our differences are, but where there are potential avenues for progress. And we will over the next several months be laying out our general framework and approach. And as I said during my inauguration speech, if countries like Iran are willing to unclench their fist, they will find an extended hand from us.

The full transcript can be found here.

So now - I guess as a result of our having a new President - Iran has gone from the worlds largest state sponsor of terrorism to a wonderfully responsible, benevolent and humane state? All in the matter of 1 week?

There went what little optimism I had that we would make it through Obummer’s presidency in one piece.

Velkome to a Funeral with Bernie…Barry…Barack….whomevah - it’s yours.

273 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:36:40am

re: #266 avanti

From your link,

The Romans, the Crusaders, the Persians, the British and the French all sought to dominate and redraw the political, religious and geographic lines of the Middle East. All were eventually sent packing, with Arab identity and stubbornness intact. Arabs are amongst the most hospitable peoples in the world, but they also have a very strong sense of identity and independence. Sometimes this has been to our detriment, cutting us off from many new ideas, but it has also allowed us to chart our own course through history and to maintain our Arab identity.

Our lands were the cradle of civilization. Our lands gave birth to the world’s three main monotheistic religions and all their prophets. Farming, irrigation, science and mathematics all emerged from the Arab and Muslim Middle East and its dependencies.

This is of course pure hogwash. First of all, the Arabs continue to believe the Christian empire they met & fought and defeated during the first centuries of Muslim expansion was Roman. It was not, the Byzantine Empire was ruled by Greeks but included the several nations of Asia minor. The Arabs were the expansive invading force which colonized & converted the mostly Christian people of the Middle east. Secondly, the prophets of Judaism & Christianity were Jews, not Arabs. They lived long before Arabs ever set foot in the Holy Land.

Thirdly, “farming, irrigation, science and mathematics all emerged” elsewhere long before the Arabs learned of them. For example, 4th Century BC Greece was a center for learning in geometry and science. It was Indian mathematicians who invented algebra & the zero in the 2nd Century AD. Arab & Persian mathematicians extended that knowledge, but they did not originate it.

That letter was yet another tiresome example of the cultural narcissism of the Arab world. The rest of the letter is littered with factual & historical errors, moral hypocrisy and outright lies.

274 soxfan4life  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:36:41am

re: #14 MandyManners

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.

Ya, what she said.

275 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:37:50am

re: #199 avanti

Charles, I said more moderate by Arab standards. Al Jazzera is far more popular, but shunning them for Al Arabya makes sense. If Fox TV or CNN was popular in the Arab world that would have been a better choice.

Question: who exactly has said that Al Arabiya is “more moderate” even by Arab standards? Who made that determination? Was there a study of some kind?

Because I’ve been watching broadcasts from both Al Arabiya and Al Jazeera for years, and I have seen absolutely no evidence that this is true. Both networks are (openly at times, covertly at others) supportive of the Muslim Brotherhood agenda, and both networks are rotten with ugly antisemitism, Holocaust denial, and support for violence against Jews. Both networks air Islamic supremacist statements from clerics, both networks are rabidly anti-American.

There’s no objective evidence at all that Al Arabiya is more moderate.

276 soxfan4life  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:39:42am

One can only wonder if the Arab correspondent got the Chris Matthews tingle when talking to the One. I fear the MTV generation and those that elected this fool.

277 Amer-I-Can  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:41:48am

This is just the start of one big fucking swirly by this administration! I guess if we stick our heads deep enough in the shitter, the flushing sound won’t be so annoying?

I hope the people are ready for this. I plan on screaming at the TV and the neighbors quite a bit over the next four years… crap… it’s only been six days!

278 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:42:50am

The problem here is that too many of us see the glass as half empty/empty/dry. It’s all about choosing perspective. How many of us, when we think of Hitler, think “great highways,” or “great little cars except for the worthless heaters?” But usually, all we want to see when we think of Hitler is all the bad things he did, like setting the world on fire, killing millions of people and trying to destroy entire races. Wouldn’t we all feel better if we tried be more optimistic? To be more generous? To look for the good?

In the same way, we are in the habit of seeing mohammedans as blood thirsty, expansionist haters who love death, anticipate orgies in paradise, and treat women like goats. This is all because of our habit of habit of looking at the glass as half empty.

So let us endeavor, in this era of hope and change, to look at our mohammedan brothers through new eyes. Think of all the good mohammedanism has brought to the world. For instance, … … uh, there was the uh…, er… .

/clock in the hall ticking. Crickets chirping.

279 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:42:56am

re: #130 faraway

Please name 10 moderates.

faraway -

Collectively they might be called either a “Jihadi Minyan” or 10 Dead Guys.

-S-

280 soxfan4life  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:43:03am

re: #99 opinionated

We mourned, we cried, we are building memorials, we swore never to forget when the barbarians attacked our Nation and killed so may of our fellow citizens and less then a decade later we elect a President who believes his mission is to apologize to THEM. To sooth THEM.

What the hell is wrong with this country?

It took us 50 years for the A-Hole William Jefferson Clinton to apologize for nuking Japan, and now 10 years for Barry-O to apologize for our buildings to get in the way of their hijacked aircraft. And yet America gave majority control to the Democrats. Thanks but no thanks.

281 voirdire  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:45:25am

What the … Wait a minute … I thought I took the blue pill.

282 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:50:59am

None of this should come as a surprise to those who took time out of their precious lives to read one of the One’s autobiographies, Audacity of Hope. He told us basically that if pushed came to shove, he would side with the muslim world.

I know what I’m thinking regarding our current President and I’m ashamed to think it but I certainly won’t admit it out loud or in public. God is telling me, “You’re being very bad right now”.

283 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:53:00am

re: #278 shiek al beif salami

The problem here is that too many of us see the glass as half empty/empty/dry. It’s all about choosing perspective. How many of us, when we think of Hitler, think “great highways,” or “great little cars except for the worthless heaters?” But usually, all we want to see when we think of Hitler is all the bad things he did, like setting the world on fire, killing millions of people and trying to destroy entire races. Wouldn’t we all feel better if we tried be more optimistic? To be more generous? To look for the good?

I had to scroll down immediately to the bottom of your post to make sure the sarc tag were there. Whew. I was relieved to see it there.

In the same way, we are in the habit of seeing mohammedans as blood thirsty, expansionist haters who love death, anticipate orgies in paradise, and treat women like goats. This is all because of our habit of habit of looking at the glass as half empty.

So let us endeavor, in this era of hope and change, to look at our mohammedan brothers through new eyes. Think of all the good mohammedanism has brought to the world. For instance, … … uh, there was the uh…, er… .

/clock in the hall ticking. Crickets chirping.

284 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:00:54pm

re: #283 Maui Girl

er?

285 Irish Rose  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:03:19pm

re: #14 MandyManners

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.

The circular firing squad is unusually quiet today.
I wonder why.

286 robdouth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:06:09pm

Big O! I love that anime, but now somehow you’ve ruined it for me.

re: #119 Steve

Pres. zerO is trying to use President Reagan theology. Trickle down worked for him it should surely work for “me the big O.”

Unfortunately O is an idiot and does not realize how it works.

287 Irish Rose  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:10:56pm
Unfortunately O is an idiot and does not realize how it works.

Junior Senator to the Presidency, in less than three months… courtesy the Hopenchange Express.

All aboard.

/gag

288 anti-looter  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:11:48pm

I am cringing at the thought of Obama and I-am-a-nut-job on the rug looking like a bicycle rack before their first meeting - guess it is time to learn Arabic.

289 cancuz  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:16:48pm

Staggering ambition or stunning stupidity?

Ever so foolish is the fool who believes he is “the One”.

290 diablovision  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:26:22pm

What a dumb asshole.

291 bravesoat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:26:37pm

I feel so much better about myself now- our nation can feel better too. This was a brave step foward. I am sure this made Jimmy Carter and his buddies in the Middle East have a new found respect for our nation!

292 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:26:44pm

re: #14 MandyManners

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.

Maybe they can explain how this is all totally worth it, just so they can teach the GOP a lesson.

293 Promethea  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:32:02pm

re: #262 yenta-fada

Obama is doing precisely what Condi Rice did. He is of the mindset that the Palestinian people are in the same position as poor black people in America. He is fighting FOR the Palestinians to have “equal rights” which means whitey/Israel has to pay for their role as oppressors. He has, since early years developed a world view which completely ignores FACTS if they conflict with his ideology. He disowns the white part of himself as the enemy and has to prove that the black part is somehow superior. Bodes ill for Israel, not to mention the few remaining democracies in the world.

FACTS?

Don’t bother me with any facts. I know what I know and that’s enough.

/Obama

294 RondinellaMamma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:40:49pm

How sad that dearleaderO spent so much time reading Alinsky, Lenin and Gramsci. I’d feel much safer if he had opened a copy of Machiavelli’s The Prince:
- It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.

-Hence it comes about that all armed Prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed Prophets have been destroyed.

-For among other evils caused by being disarmed, it renders you contemptible; which is one of those disgraceful things which a prince must guard against.

295 samhein  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:44:35pm

Obama is a legend in his own mind, and looking more and more like a major problem to the US.

I did not care much for McC., but voted for him because I didn’t feel that any third party would get enough votes to get in, so in the end, a vote for a 3rd party would be a vote for Obama.

What will it take for the Obama cult to come to their senses and see that fearless leader is actually looking like he may be leading the US down a path of self destruction, even worse that with Bush.

296 Sheepdogess  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:46:15pm

I am not at all surprised at this.
Anyone care to quess how long before he converts to Islam?
I give him eleven months.

Merry Christmas f*** you America,
Yours truly,
Barack Hussein Obama.

297 MadJadBad  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:47:17pm
I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.

re: #14 MandyManners

Should be: I hope the Republican “leadership” that got that lame ass candidate McCain nominated are fucking happy now.

298 Sheepdogess  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:52:36pm

re: #14 MandyManners

Were there Lizards who did that? Who?

299 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:58:05pm

A Pres. Giuliani wouldn’t be doing this. Sure he ran a lousy campaign, but that doesn’t change the fact that he wasn’t good enough for “true conservatives”*. And that had nothing to do with the GOP leadership.

*TCMA!

300 jamsler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:13:10pm

re: #14 MandyManners

I think you’re going to be able to say that again many times in the coming years.

And I’ll up ding it every time!

301 big L  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:18:32pm

I thought this jerk was a Christian.
300- Muslim Jihadis and the dictators don’t want Muslims to be free…Just like Obey-me Obama want the US citizens to be enslaved to him- locked in their neighborhoods by jumbo gas prices and tapped out wallets and American Trabants.

302 big L  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:20:38pm

where did Giulian go for 6wks during the Election? Must have had James Baker retreads advising him…

303 descolada9  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:30:29pm

Good God, we really did get the second coming of Jimmuh Carter. I would give a lot to have Clinton back in the White House as opposed to any more of Barak Obama, who in his first week is already wreaking more havoc than even I thought he would be able to get away with.

These next four years are going to be the scariest of my life.

304 Irish Rose  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:39:36pm

A lot of buzz today in the online communities for military personnel and their families, and it’s not positive.

305 MJBrutus  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:40:05pm

re: #11 pre-Boomer Marine brat

How do you spell “clueless”?

With an ‘O’.

306 houndowl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:50:29pm

George W. Bush gave several interviews to Al Arabiya while president, so Obama’s interview isn’t exactly a precedent.

307 code red 21  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:43pm

Despicable doesn’t even begin to express what I think about BO’s interview but if I say anything else it would get deleted. How in the hell are we going to make it through four years of this crap?

308 code red 21  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:56:06pm

re: #14 MandyManners

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.


I actually heard some dumb-fucks on talk radio, just over the past few days, apologizing for voting for BO. Sorry just doesn’t cut it with me.

309 solomonpanting  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:59:55pm

re: #306 houndowl

George W. Bush gave several interviews to Al Arabiya while president, so Obama’s interview isn’t exactly a precedent.

The point is this was Obama’s first interview after his inauguration. That’s the precendent.

Obama isn’t exactly a President.

310 michaelhop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:09:14pm

Now if he would just take a walk down the “Arab street” and have discussions with Achmed the plumber…….I’m sure they would just love him to pieces.

311 houndowl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:09:15pm

re: #309 solomonpanting

That didn’t appear to be CJ’s point in the original post. And how is “first interview since his inauguration” relevant, except maybe as a tough Trivial Pursuits question down the road?

312 michaelhop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:09:57pm

re: #311 houndowl

That didn’t appear to be CJ’s point in the original post. And how is “first interview since his inauguration” relevant, except maybe as a tough Trivial Pursuits question down the road?

Trivial Pursuits……good name for the Democratic agenda.

313 solomonpanting  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:14:06pm

re: #311 houndowl

That didn’t appear to be CJ’s point in the original post. And how is “first interview since his inauguration” relevant, except maybe as a tough Trivial Pursuits question down the road?


Try harder:

Barack Obama’s first interview since his inauguration went to Al Arabiya…This is an absolutely horrible precedent

314 MrMisanthrope  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:37:14pm

re: #14 MandyManners

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn’t conservative enough are fucking happy now.

I didn’t vote for (actively voted for Pro Liberty Candidates) McChurian until I had no other option.

Only on Foreign Affairs/Israel might he have been a useful idiot as POTUS. On Domestic affairs/the Border he was only barely more tolerable than The One… and even then he was a RINO who was/is more than happy to “work with” moonbats.

Meh.

So instead of the Domestic Policy of the Clintons and an uncertain Foreign Policy, we got the Domestic Policy of the Clintons and the Foreign Policy of Carter…

At this point I’m just waiting for Ragnarok & Roll…

315 MrMisanthrope  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:40:31pm

re: #39 Kosh’s Shadow

About another year or two, when Iran gets the bomb, with 0bama’s help, and sets them off in major US cities.

Considering that the Cities & their Parasites are mostly responsible for the Obamanation, I can’t think of a better target….

316 iam7545  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:53:18pm

re: #110 avanti

This tread shows the divide between the left and the right. The network he chose to speak is more moderate then Al Jazeera that Bush staffers gave interviews on. It is far from moderate by western standards but the best available if the new administration wants to show a new face to the moderate Arabs.
I watched Obama condemn the terrorists and offer a more positive alternative to return to a pre terrorist dialog with the Muslim’s. We may disagree with the chances of success, but I don’t see the downside of condemning the radicals, and trying to build a bridge to the moderates. If he tones down the hated by even a few points it’s worth the effort.
I’ll wait to see the reaction to the interview in the Arab world to see.

Errrrr ahhhh - Moderate? They were shooting rockets out of their building in Gaza a few weeks ago. I guess this redefines moderate.


Put a cheap tablecloth on Zeros head and he looks quite comfy rubbing elbows with the Jihadists.

317 wordsworth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:31:46pm

The American President with an Arab middle and last name and questionable patriotism and ties to Arab princes who mysteriously sponsored his education gives his first interview to an Arab press known for supporting terror…. what could go wrong there!? This is the equivalent of Bush feeding the Zombie’s by giving a State of the Union from a Klan rally. In other news, the largest religion in the world still considers our President an apostate. Oh boyeee.

318 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:38:50pm

I don’t think “Shit For Brains” adequately describes Barrack Hussein Obama.

319 Lynn B.  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:07:25pm

re: #110 avanti

This tread shows the divide between the left and the right. The network he chose to speak is more moderate then Al Jazeera that Bush staffers gave interviews on. It is far from moderate by western standards but the best available if the new administration wants to show a new face to the moderate Arabs.
I watched Obama condemn the terrorists and offer a more positive alternative to return to a pre terrorist dialog with the Muslim’s. We may disagree with the chances of success, but I don’t see the downside of condemning the radicals, and trying to build a bridge to the moderates. If he tones down the hated by even a few points it’s worth the effort.
I’ll wait to see the reaction to the interview in the Arab world to see.

The point is, this kind of pandering always has the effect of undermining the moderates. It betrays, yet again, Obama’s ignorance (at best) of the dynamics of power in the Middle East. The Arab street does not take the same meaning from things that Western intellectuals do, nor do those in power. They see the appearance of a powerful Western leader making such statements on Arabic TV as a kind of obeisance, an acknowledgment of weakness and a plea for mercy. The message that sends to the true moderates is: we recognize that you’re not in control and you can’t count on us to stand up for you in a crunch.

It’s part and parcel of the myopia and hypocritical hubris of the left that while pretending to be so “tolerant” and “understanding” of cultures they really don’t even understand, they always assume that underneath it all, they’re “just like us.”

It simply ain’t so.

320 Mr Spiffy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:16:55pm

re: #52 TimeQuake

BOOOOOOOOOO!

/Is it too soon to boo the new prez?

What took so long?

321 Canard51  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:35:46pm

What an idiot.

322 clayusmcret  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:41:49pm

If this were any other person, the American press would be screaming from the highest newstands. Our press’s lack of public hostile indignation is almost as telling as where “The One” gave his first network interview.

323 nyc redneck  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:48:55pm

look at his eyes.
he’s crazy.
drunk on power and infected w/ the belief from his fawning public, that he can do anything.
like turn headchoppers into decent human beings, by promising them respect a dozen times.
he is delusional.
afraid to criticize their monstrous behavior but saying WE made mistakes.
he has just invited an attack. they love a weak horse.
what a dangerous and naive fool.
lord help us.

324 avspatti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 6:20:14pm

re: #256 realwest

The question is whom would he listen to? Is there anyone he would listen to?

325 FrogMarch  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 6:43:34pm

What a sad pathetic unqualified joke he is.

326 avspatti  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 6:49:06pm

re: #301 big L

I thought this jerk was a Christian.

Hmmm … that’s debatable. Sorta like ‘depends on what the meaning of is is.’

327 greengolem64  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:13:06pm

re: #311 houndowl

If for no other reason than that he is SETTING Precedent. BAD precedent at that.

328 So?  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:01:14pm

I doubt if Obama had uttered the following words during the presidential race “I come from a muslim family, I’ve lived in a muslim nation, in fact the biggest, Indonesia…” he wouldn’t be sitting in the White House now. He hid his background and kept his heritage a secret throughout the monts of campaigning and here in 15 seconds proclaims his MUSLIM roots.

329 bubbasbbq  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:08:58am

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. WHAT A FREAKIN’ TOOL!
Not even a month old and this tool is already being laughed at by our enemies
you could name his administration “the elitist without a clue”

330 bubbasbbq  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:10:31am

Oh and proclaiming his muslim roots isn’t going to save him. He is considered a Apostate and that is WORSE than a born Christian.

331 Marlin925  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:10:16am

Comrade 0,
Something to remember, Bubba Clinton was vigorously pursuing the peace process with the Israelis & Palestinians, bombing Christian Serbia to save Muslims and doing all sorts of things to placate favor with the Islamic world.

During that time, the training phase of 9/11, learning to fly yet NOT land planes, etc. was completed.

The above ACTIONS did nothing to sway the Jihadis, and you belive your WORDS will placate them?

332 J.S.  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:34:52am

I think in today’s Wall Street Journal Fouad Ajami sums it up best (paragraph from his article, “Obama Tells Arabia’s Despots They’re Safe: America’s diplomacy of freedom is officially over.”)

The irony now is obvious: George W. Bush as a force for emancipation in Muslim lands, and Barack Hussein Obama as a messenger of the old, settled ways. Thus the “parochial” man takes abroad a message that Muslims and Arabs did not have tyranny in their DNA, and the man with Muslim and Kenyan and Indonesian fragments in his very life and identity is signaling an acceptance of the established order. Mr. Obama could still acknowledge the revolutionary impact of his predecessor’s diplomacy, but so far he has chosen not to do so.


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