Hamas Murders Human Rights Worker

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The goons of Hamas have murdered a Palestinian human rights activist for “collaborating” with Israel—and he’s just one of dozens of people they’ve slaughtered since Operation Cast Lead: Hamas executes former B’tselem field worker.

A Palestinian human rights activist and journalist who used to work for the Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem has been executed by Hamas on charges of “collaboration” with Israel, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip said over the weekend.

They identified the man as Haidar Ghanem, 46, of Rafah.

They pointed out that Ghanem, who was a field researcher for B’Tselem, had been sentenced to death by a Palestinian Authority court in 2002 after being found guilty of passing on information to Israel that later resulted in the elimination of Fatah gunmen.

Ghanem, according to the Palestinians, was among dozens of suspected “collaborators” who were executed by Hamas during Operation Cast Lead.

The international left continues to support this group of murderers, even as they kill people who work for the international left.

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349 comments
1 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:10am

/Can you feel the love?

2 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:12am

Once they label him a collaborator, no one in the West will care.

Move along.

3 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:12am

The International Left: There's no terrorist we won't love.

/

4 Lively  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:12am

Terrorists are misunderstood.
/

5 Shug  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:23am

Jimmuh, can we still trust Hamas ?

6 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:25am

Bastards!

7 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:39am
The international left continues to support this group of murderers, even as they kill people who work for the international left.

They're funny that way.

8 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:02:57am
9 Gella  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:03:24am

yap, all Obama can do is flirting with disaster, looks that matters

10 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:03:25am

Of course the left will now protest this capital punishment...in 5...4...3...2..1...crickets...

11 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:03:50am

When you hear collaborater, think "Witch" in Salem.

12 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:00am

Ghanem to the dedicated believers was just one egg cracked to make an omelet. That is all.

-S-

13 MJ  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:24am

This is Israel's fault. Just ask CNN or the NYT.

14 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:37am

/I am sure he got due process..

15 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:41am

Human rights worker on Human rights worker violence !

/Reuters off

16 Lively  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:04:59am

Will Hamas leader give an interview on Al Arabiya tonight?

17 sneezey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:02am

I don't hear any UN outrage!

18 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:07am

And just how many have we executed at Guantanamo?..........Hm?......
But we're the bad guys, of course........
Bastards.

19 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:25am

re: #8 buzzsawmonkey

I bet B'tselem will not take this opportunity to figure out what kind of people it has been cozying up to.

If only the Shabak stopped its Gestapo tactics of recruiting informants.

20 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:05:51am

re: #17 sneezey

I don't hear any UN outrage!


There will be another condemnation of Israel by the UN.

21 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:06:07am

Is this an example of "effective government"?

22 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:07:06am
23 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:07:08am

Wow. B’Tselem is rabidly anti-Israel and often invents conspiracy theories to cover for Palestinians terrorism. IIRC they invented the story that one of the early IDF airtstike videos was of a man loading gas canisters into his car instead of Qassam rockets.

24 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:07:11am

This is yet another message sent to those who might support Fatah or want to see Hamas ousted from Gaza; anyone who opposes Hamas will face execution should they be caught. It's incentive not to act against Hamas.

Gaza is a prison of Hamas' own making and design. They control all aspects and everything that happens there is with the goal of jihad in mind.

25 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:07:35am

One man's murderer is another man's freedom fighter.

/roto-Reutering through the septic tank of Liberal Theology

26 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:07:42am

re: #5 Shug

Jimmuh, can we still trust Hamas ?

Absolutely. "Except for a few rockets and maybe a couple of executions ...."

27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:08:17am

Hmmm. Watch "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken" with Don Knotts, or seethe? Going to see if I can do both.

28 maddogg  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:08:31am
The international left continues to support this group of murderers, even as they kill people who work for the (suicidal) international left.
29 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:08:46am

Maybe he was compromising their "defensive tunnels"

30 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:09am

I read that after the Israelis pulled out, that many suspected collaborators were executed in Gaza. They must be selling the idea that if it were not for traitors , they would have had a glorious victory.

31 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:18am

The brave Hamas warriors have crawled out of the holes they were cowering in and from out behind the women and children they were hiding behind to once again flaunt their macho tough guy image. Cast Lead hurt Hamas, but Hamas still won, because they are right back were they were before.....tormenting and abusing their own people. What a wasted opportunity.

32 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:30am

re: #26 jwb7605

Absolutely. "Except for a few nagging rockets and maybe a couple of necessary executions ...."

FTFY

33 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:33am

Hopefully, the Israelis have planted lots of false information that will result in Hamas-on-Hamas fratricide.

Unfortunately, the present case does not appear to be an example of such.

34 Cathypop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:38am

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hmmm. Watch "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken" with Don Knotts, or seethe? Going to see if I can do both.


The ghost and Mr. Chicken will not make you want to shoot the tv

35 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:42am

Jimmy Carter could not be reached for comment.

36 MJ  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:44am

CAIR is praising Obama's choice of Mitchel as ME Special Envoy:

CAIR Commends Obama’s Choice for Mideast Envoy
Posted 1/23/2009 3:13:00 PM



"(WASHINGTON, D.C., 1/22/09) - The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today commended President Obama on his choice of former senator George Mitchell as special envoy to the Middle East.

Considered a “diplomatic heavyweight,” Mitchell is perhaps best known for negotiating a cease-fire and power-sharing agreements between warring Catholic and Protestant factions in Northern Ireland in the late 1990s.

Mitchell is also known for authoring a 2001 report on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that was applauded for its balance and became the basis for later peace initiatives...."

No link. I don't link to hate sites.

37 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:09:54am

A statement from B’Tselem....

26 Jan. '09: Extra-judicial execution of alleged collaborators by Hamas

According to several media reports, since the start of the Israeli attack in Gaza, Hamas has executed an unknown number of residents of Gaza that it considered to be collaborators with Israel. According to these reports, some of those murdered were of people in Hamas detention centers, and others fled the central Gaza prison, which was bombed by Israel. The allegations of collaboration pertained to the passing of information to Israel, and to past collaboration with Israel.

In light of the current circumstances in the Gaza Strip, B’Tselem cannot investigate fully these reports, or provide the exact number of the people killed in these events, or their identity. However, international humanitarian law expressly prohibits any state or organization from performing extra-judicial executions.These acts are grave breaches of international law, and all those involved in carrying them out bear individual criminal responsibility for these actions.

38 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:10:00am

re: #5 Shug

Jimmuh, can we still trust Hamas ?

Ya' think maybe that swamp rabbit was prescient?

39 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:10:08am

I just went thru and dinged everybody up.

40 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:10:18am

re: #29 Dar ul Harbarian

Maybe he was compromising their "defensive tunnels"


I think those tunnels are just transit systems designed to prevent global warming. [moonbatish statement]

41 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:10:43am
42 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:11:01am

Does obama know?
/

43 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:11:17am

re: #31 Desert Dog

The brave Hamas warriors have crawled out of the holes they were cowering in and from out behind the women and children they were hiding behind to once again flaunt their macho tough guy image. Cast Lead hurt Hamas, but Hamas still won, because they are right back were they were before.....tormenting and abusing their own people. What a wasted opportunity.

Heh.
They're back, cowering in their ratholes:

'6:37 PM Reports that IDF tank columns are now operating in the Gaza strip in multiple locations.
6:50 PM BBC Arabic World Service reports of very heavy IDF tank shelling in Dir Al Balach region in Gaza.'

[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]

44 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:11:17am

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hmmm. Watch "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken" with Don Knotts, or seethe? Going to see if I can do both.

Boy, talk about your cognitive dissonance.

45 MJ  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:11:24am

re: #37 Killgore Trout

A statement from B’Tselem....

26 Jan. '09: Extra-judicial execution of alleged collaborators by Hamas

B’Tselem is Hebrew for Capo.

46 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:11:29am

re: #30 opnion

I read that after the Israelis pulled out, that many suspected collaborators were executed in Gaza. They must be selling the idea that if it were not for traitors , they would have had a glorious victory.

One reason Israel should not have pulled out, even if 0bama threatened to vote against them at the UN.
Now, Israel will have a lot more trouble getting inside intelligence.

47 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:11:45am

re: #8 buzzsawmonkey

I bet B'tselem will not take this opportunity to figure out what kind of people it has been cozying up to.

Vicarious preemptive Stockholm Syndrome will immediately set in.

A great question for the Pali apologists; where are the Palestinian equivalents of B'tselem and Peace Now? Where are the Palestinian amicus hostis groups? Where are the Palestinian organizations whose basic message is "OUR SIDE must stop using violence immediately, regardless of what anyone else does"?

(In in an entirely unrelated note, why is the nearby church here in downtown DC playing "We Three Kings" on its chimes, over a month after Christmas, and three weeks after "Reyes Magos"?)

48 Racer X  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:11:46am

Thousands of journalists worldwide expressed their outrage!

/wait, no they didn't.

49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:12:33am

re: #34 Cathypop

The ghost and Mr. Chicken will not make you want to shoot the tv

Just what I was thinkin'!

50 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:13:07am

re: #38 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Ya' think maybe that swamp rabbit was prescient?

We should name an Amphibious Assault Vehicle after that wabbit.

51 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:13:20am

re: #43 yma o hyd

Heh.
They're back, cowering in their ratholes:

'6:37 PM Reports that IDF tank columns are now operating in the Gaza strip in multiple locations.
6:50 PM BBC Arabic World Service reports of very heavy IDF tank shelling in Dir Al Balach region in Gaza.'

[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]

Oh boy!
Maybe I should put my Hamas Mouse avatar back up!

GO IDF!

52 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:13:22am

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Its only a 'grave breach of International Law' when Israel does it.

///////

53 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:13:23am

re: #48 Racer X

Thousands of journalists worldwide expressed their outrage!

/wait, no they didn't.

Yeah but that would mean getting emotionally involved in the story and they are not suppose to do that. Just ask Chris " me leg tingles " Mathews?

54 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:02am

re: #36 MJ

CAIR is praising Obama's choice of Mitchel as ME Special Envoy:

CAIR Commends Obama’s Choice for Mideast Envoy
Posted 1/23/2009 3:13:00 PM

NOT a good sign.

Watch Mitchel try to get the Israelis to agree to withdraw from all "occupied territory". Then, even if they withdraw to 1967 borders, the Palis won't stop terrorism, because to them, if one Jew has just enough room to stand up in the land of Israel, that would be "occupied territory".

55 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:13am

re: #51 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh boy!
Maybe I should put my Hamas Mouse avatar back up!

GO IDF!

The IDF should save the gas next time and just not leave.

56 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:28am

re: #46 Kosh's Shadow

One reason Israel should not have pulled out, even if 0bama threatened to vote against them at the UN.
Now, Israel will have a lot more trouble getting inside intelligence.


Exactly. Hamas can now make the case that they still exist, so they won.
Militarily, they got clobbered, but they control the narrative in Gaza & the world wide Left is happy to help them.

57 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:36am

re: #47 Occasional Reader

My apartment complex still has the Christmas, er, Winter Holiday, decorations out.

58 andymacop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:43am

Any sign of this story from the MSM? If so, it will most likely be buried under headlines about Hamas members with stubbed toes because of the evil Joooooosss...

59 kansas  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:14:57am

They didn't listen to Obama's interview?

60 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:15:12am

re: #37 Killgore Trout

In light of the current circumstances in the Gaza Strip, B’Tselem cannot investigate fully these reports, or provide the exact number of the people killed in these events, or their identity.

Strange how they had no problems counting, naming and investigating victims of ISRAELI AGGRESSION!


AAAARTRRRGGGHHH!

61 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:15:13am

re: #50 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

We should name an Amphibious Assault Vehicle after that wabbit.

Jimmy is an ex-President, and I will therefore moderate my commentary.

/there are worse things than Stinky

62 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:15:20am

Cuz' we all know how protective of Fatah gunmen Hamas is!

63 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:15:29am

I'm surprised no one has found a way to blame the Jooos for this yet.

64 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:15:41am

re: #46 Kosh's Shadow

One reason Israel should not have pulled out, even if 0bama threatened to vote against them at the UN.
Now, Israel will have a lot more trouble getting inside intelligence.

Looks like they're doing very well, in spite of the hamasthugs:

'Security sources said Tuesday that the Palestinian who was hurt in the IAF strike on the southern Gaza Strip town of Khan Younis, was involved in this morning's attack on the Kissufim crossing. (Hanan Greenberg)'

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

65 gop_patriot  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:15:41am

re: #37 Killgore Trout

What a weak, non-outraged statement.

And, "Individual criminal responsibility" for the murderers- because they don't want to place the blame on their buddies, the terrorist entity Hamas. They have to look at the 'big picture'... the fact is that they like Hamas, and like what they're doing. If a few people lose their lives for the greater cause, well, that's just part of the deal, right?

/spit

66 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:02am

Hey OR, are you a Hasher? I just checked it out.

67 CharlieBravo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:03am

Sorta like going to the farm. I cow is always a cow, a horse a horse, a pig a pig, etc. A terrorist is always a terrorist. There are no magic words that will change this.

68 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:05am

Now let's not get all judgmental here. Slaughtering, it's a cultural thing, ya know?

69 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:10am

re: #63 Kosh's Shadow

I'm surprised no one has found a way to blame the Jooos for this yet.

he talked to a Jew. That's a capital crime ain't it?

70 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:15am

re: #63 Kosh's Shadow

I'm surprised no one has found a way to blame the Jooos for this yet.

Joos forced these collaborators to act against the Islamists by corrupting them with money and their vile lies. They must be punished accordingly. /hamas

71 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:36am

re: #47 Occasional Reader
You a Hasher?

72 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:16:53am

re: #66 Golem Akbar

Hey OR, are you a Hasher? I just checked it out.

I used to be. May do it again in the spring.

73 Pyrocles  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:03am

From hearing Lefties speak about terrorism on NPR, they all believe Islamist terrorism is identical to Irish IRA terrorism. They have a "We handled the IRA, we'll handle al Queda" attitude. They completely dismiss the fact that the religions and worldviews of the IRA and Islamist terrorists are completely different. In their minds, religion (which is the ideology through which people see the world, and the most important motivator of all) cannot possibly be a motivator for terrorists; it's just impossible.

re: #36 MJ

CAIR is praising Obama's choice of Mitchel as ME Special Envoy:

CAIR Commends Obama’s Choice for Mideast Envoy
Posted 1/23/2009 3:13:00 PM


"(WASHINGTON, D.C., 1/22/09) - The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today commended President Obama on his choice of former senator George Mitchell as special envoy to the Middle East.

Considered a “diplomatic heavyweight,” Mitchell is perhaps best known for negotiating a cease-fire and power-sharing agreements between warring Catholic and Protestant factions in Northern Ireland in the late 1990s.

Mitchell is also known for authoring a 2001 report on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that was applauded for its balance and became the basis for later peace initiatives...."

No link. I don't link to hate sites.

74 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:06am

re: #47 Occasional Reader


B"tsalem will apologize for not vetting their employees with more diligence.

They would never ever willfully employ a collaborater.

I'm not kidding.

75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:07am

re: #69 Nevergiveup

he talked to a Jew. That's a capital crime ain't it?

I think you are allowed to say "aloha snackbar" as you are blowing the Jew up. Aren't you?

76 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:20am

re: #71 Golem Akbar

You a Hasher?

I don't think hash has anything to do with what's wrong with OR.

77 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:43am

re: #67 CharlieBravo

Sorta like going to the farm. I cow is always a cow, a horse a horse, a pig a pig, etc. A terrorist is always a terrorist. There are no magic words that will change this.

Boy are you naive. If the say " I recognize Israel" all is forgiven. Just like Arafat did before he launch Intifada 2.

78 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:48am

re: #55 Oh no...Sand People!

The IDF should save the gas next time and just not leave.

Yeah - much more appropriate for saving the planet: all that driving back and forth must have increased the Gorebull warming by, oh, another degree or so ...

79 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:17:48am
80 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:18:05am

re: #60 Ben Hur

Strange how they had no problems counting, naming and investigating victims of ISRAELI AGGRESSION!


AAAARTRRRGGGHHH!

Ah, but you see...

In light of the current circumstances in the Gaza Strip

Translation: The evil Joos won't let us in, or something like that.

81 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:18:25am

re: #46 Kosh's Shadow

One reason Israel should not have pulled out, even if 0bama threatened to vote against them at the UN.
Now, Israel will have a lot more trouble getting inside intelligence.

agreed...a terrific blunder...not only the loss of intel but a lost opportunity to foment anti Hamas support...maybe the Gazans would start to forcefully reject Hamas if they had the chance...bowing to the UN and the fantasy world they live in gets people killed...the UN are murderers by default

82 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:18:40am

re: #67 CharlieBravo

Sorta like going to the farm. I cow is always a cow, a horse a horse, a pig a pig, etc. A terrorist is always a terrorist. There are no magic words that will change this.

We can send in George Mitchell to listen to the cows and pigs...and try to convince them they are actually kangaroos and panda bears

83 andymacop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:18:56am

re: #67 CharlieBravo

Jimmah is working on this as we speak.

84 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:18:59am

re: #72 Occasional Reader

I used to be. May do it again in the spring.


If there was such a thing here in L.A., I'd do it, too. It's one of the things that got me running, way back in the middle ages...[and I still do it].

85 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:19:20am

re: #63 Kosh's Shadow

I'm surprised no one has found a way to blame the Jooos for this yet.

It'll come, never fear!

After all, if it hadn't been for the Joooos, this brave Fatah fighter wouldn't have fallen into the clutches of Shin Beth.

86 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:19:45am

re: #74 Ben Hur

B"tsalem will apologize for not vetting their employees with more diligence.

They would never ever willfully employ a collaborater.

I'm not kidding.

I won't be surprised. (Now write "collaborator" three hundred times on the blackboard.)

87 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:20:23am

re: #86 Occasional Reader

I won't be surprised. (Now write "collaborator" three hundred times on the blackboard.)


I just realized that I've been doing that!

88 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:20:24am

re: #76 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I don't think hash has anything to do with what's wrong with OR.

I'm still looking for why I'm the way I am. My psychiatrist did a brain scan on me and found nothing....

89 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:20:26am

re: #85 yma o hyd

It'll come, never fear!

After all, if it hadn't been for the Joooos, this brave Fatah fighter wouldn't have fallen into the clutches of Shin Beth.

Shin Bet--the Shin Beth is the brothel down the road on the left.
/

90 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:20:27am

re: #84 Golem Akbar

If there was such a thing here in L.A., I'd do it, too. It's one of the things that got me running, way back in the middle ages...[and I still do it].

Are you sure there's not a chapter (kennel) in LA? I'd be astonished if there weren't.

91 winston06  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:20:39am

Hamas is a criminal band of gangsters

92 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:20:57am

re: #85 yma o hyd

It'll come, never fear!

After all, if it hadn't been for the Joooos, this brave Fatah fighter wouldn't have fallen into the clutches of Shin Beth.

I BET you didn't preview that one ... heh.

93 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:21:05am

re: #89 Nevergiveup

Shin Bet--the Shin Beth is the brothel down the road on the left.
/

yma doesn't know Shin from Shinola.

:P

94 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:21:13am

President Carter: Hamas can be trusted

Published: 01.26.09, 16:05 / Israel News

Former US President Jimmy Carter said in an interview to NBC that a one-state solution would be a disaster for Israel, and the two-state solution, that everyone supports, is right.

Carter continued to say there is no way to make peace without Hamas' involvement, and that, as someone who has had two opportunities to meet with Hamas heads, he felt the organization could be trusted. Carter added that Hamas was willing to accept any Fateh agreement with Israel that would be approved by a referendum. (Yitzhak Benhorin)

95 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:21:28am

This is the Hamas I expected. Anyone who thought that the "ceasefire" would last was deluding themselves.

In an unrelated note, the odious UN shows itself to be full of anti-Israel anti-Semitic scum.

UN General Assembly President Miguel d'Escoto Brockmann did not attend the UN service marking International Holocaust Remembrance Day.

D'Escoto is known for his harsh criticism of Israel. His decision was reportedly made following the request of several Jewish groups in the US. The service began with a moment of silence.

96 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:21:29am

Of course, you can bet cash-money that not a word of this will be reported by the Grey Lady nor the Wapo.

/crickets

97 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:21:48am

re: #90 Occasional Reader

Are you sure there's not a chapter (kennel) in LA? I'd be astonished if there weren't.


I'll do some digging. Great running store nearby and I'll check it out. I just don't want to spill my beer while running.

98 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:01am

re: #88 Golem Akbar

I'm still looking for why I'm the way I am. My psychiatrist did a brain scan on me and found nothing....

What, not even a brain?


(sorry, couldn't resist ...)

99 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:04am

re: #73 Pyrocles

The IRA beef with the Brits is political, not religous.With the Islamists, religion and politics are one and the same. Don't expect your average libral to comprehend that little factoid.

100 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:19am

I'm linking to this story from 2005 for a reason:

Looters strip Gaza greenhouses

These are the people who clamor for their own state. The Israelis withdrew, turned over these greenhouses - structures that would have given the Palis the beginning of a new life, commerce, and so forth.

And what do they do? Loot and destroy.

These people were not then, are not now, and most likely will never be ready for their own state.

101 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:33am

re: #95 lawhawk

His decision was reportedly made following the request of several Jewish groups in the US

ONE group.

Neutered Cats.

102 Natasha  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:37am

re: #94 Dustyvet

President Carter: Hamas can be trusted

Published: 01.26.09, 16:05 / Israel News

Former US President Jimmy Carter said in an interview to NBC that a one-state solution would be a disaster for Israel, and the two-state solution, that everyone supports, is right.

Carter continued to say there is no way to make peace without Hamas' involvement, and that, as someone who has had two opportunities to meet with Hamas heads, he felt the organization could be trusted. Carter added that Hamas was willing to accept any Fateh agreement with Israel that would be approved by a referendum. (Yitzhak Benhorin)

Why can't this animated corpse (Carter) just fade away into obscurity where he belongs? The man is obviously senile.

103 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:22:44am

re: #5 Shug

Jimmuh, can we still trust Hamas ?

I had to listen to that old fool on NPR this morning. Almost couldn't keep breakfast down.

104 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:23:03am

re: #88 Golem Akbar

I'm still looking for why I'm the way I am. My psychiatrist did a brain scan on me and found nothing....

I tried to think, and nothing happened...

Curly Howard

105 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:23:14am

Yma's in the barrel !
C'mon gang ... FEEDING FRENZY!

..... :D

106 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:23:20am

re: #89 Nevergiveup

Shin Bet--the Shin Beth is the brothel down the road on the left.
/

Thanks - my spelling is sometimes attroi atrocu really bad!

107 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:23:22am

I put this story on my blog last week, and checking my stats, I saw that I was being linked to some moonbat forum. The moonbats were claiming that the B'Tselem worker was really a Mossad plant, and therefore deserved to die.

I can't find the link in my stats anymore.

108 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:23:53am

re: #98 yma o hyd

What, not even a brain?


(sorry, couldn't resist ...)

I don't know what that means [yes, that's what I meant]. [and no, I'm not schizo...yes I am]

109 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:23:54am

I'm ashamed. For the first time ever, I went back and blasted an idiot for a post from yesterday. Fuck you, cardinalfang.

110 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:24:05am

re: #92 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I BET you didn't preview that one ... heh.

Nope.

(Hides under the table ...)

111 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:24:09am

re: #107 Alouette

I can't find the link in my stats anymore.

Diet and exercise should cure that.

112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:24:25am

Okay, past a hundred posts...OT!

113 just another four-letter word  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:24:29am

re: #76 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Guess again, BD_VM...
(The operative word here is "hash")
/////////

JAFLW

114 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:24:43am

re: #73 Pyrocles

From hearing Lefties speak about terrorism on NPR, they all believe Islamist terrorism is identical to Irish IRA terrorism. They have a "We handled the IRA, we'll handle al Queda" attitude. They completely dismiss the fact that the religions and worldviews of the IRA and Islamist terrorists are completely different. In their minds, religion (which is the ideology through which people see the world, and the most important motivator of all) cannot possibly be a motivator for terrorists; it's just impossible.

And I think Mitchel thinks the same thing.
That worries me.

115 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:24:48am

re: #106 yma o hyd

Thanks - my spelling is sometimes attroi atrocu really bad!

Let's have some real fun, post it in Welsh...:)

116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:24:58am

re: #109 MandyManners

I kinda thought you were going to get around to that.

117 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:24:58am

re: #93 Occasional Reader

yma doesn't know Shin from Shinola.

:P

You're sooo right!

Please do enlighten me!

;-)

118 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:25:06am

re: #106 yma o hyd

Thanks - my spelling is sometimes attroi atrocu really bad!

Post in Welsh, then you'll be safe.
:D

119 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:25:34am

re: #100 subsailor68

I'm linking to this story from 2005 for a reason:

Looters strip Gaza greenhouses

These are the people who clamor for their own state. The Israelis withdrew, turned over these greenhouses - structures that would have given the Palis the beginning of a new life, commerce, and so forth.

And what do they do? Loot and destroy.

These people were not then, are not now, and most likely will never be ready for their own state.

I saw "Strip" & "ooters" & thought of someplace different. Good wings there.

120 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:26:13am

For those of us who are Hebrew-impaired, what is the meaning of "shin beth"?

121 Natasha  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:26:28am

re: #119 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I saw "Strip" & "ooters" & thought of someplace different. Good wings there.

Is that the hidden beginnings of a BOOB thread that I spy here?

122 lostlakehiker  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:26:42am
The PA state security court had sentenced Ghanem, a father of two, after holding only two brief sessions. He was convicted of helping Israel kill four Fatah activists in Rafah.

Ghanem pleaded guilty to collaborating, but denied responsibility for the killings. He told the court that he did not know that Israel would use the information to kill the activists.

One never knows whether these executions are just for show, meant to frighten rather than instruct. But IF Ghanem really did give Israel information that was used to kill activists Fatah gunmen, then killing him would be part of war, and not exactly murder. In war, people who live amongst you but help your enemy go by the words spy and traitor. The spy and traitor from the point of view of one side may be a national hero from the point of view of the other side, of history, and of dispassionate truth [Nathan Hale, say], but that cuts no ice with the guys he's working against.

There are so many impeccable grounds for criticizing Hamas. There is no moral difficulty, no need to parse the thing and think twice, when they set up mortars in schoolyards and fire away, or commandeer ambulances, or kill children just to set up TV shots where the deaths can be blamed on Israel.

Why stretch, and make the killing of somebody who'd been sentenced to death for treason by a court of sorts into Exhibit A in the wickedness of Hamas?

123 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:26:56am

re: #54 Kosh's Shadow

NOT a good sign.

Watch Mitchel try to get the Israelis to agree to withdraw from all "occupied territory". Then, even if they withdraw to 1967 borders, the Palis won't stop terrorism, because to them, if one Jew has just enough room to stand up in the land of Israel, that would be "occupied territory".

THERE IS NO STEROID PROBLEM IS GAZA.

124 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:27:09am

re: #120 Occasional Reader

For those of us who are Hebrew-impaired, what is the meaning of "shin beth"?

Didn't you ever see Elizabeth Taylor's legs?

125 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:27:17am

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I kinda thought you were going to get around to that.

I couldn't let it go. I just couldn't.

126 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:27:25am

re: #119 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I saw "Strip" & "ooters" & thought of someplace different. Good wings there.

LOL! Say, we could probably make a buck if we take the Hooters concept over there. Call it Looters, and dress all the waitresses in burkas!

"Nice Hooters on that one.........................I think."

127 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:27:40am

re: #115 Dustyvet

Dim yn galli siarad yn cymraeg ...

128 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:28:16am

re: #119 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I saw "Strip" & "ooters" & thought of someplace different. Good wings there.

The waitresses at your local Hooters strip?!

Is that in the Hooters "Platinum Lounge" or something?

129 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:28:43am

re: #125 MandyManners

I couldn't let it go. I just couldn't.

Did the cad insult the dignity of American Women?

130 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:28:47am

re: #124 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Didn't you ever see Elizabeth Taylor's legs?

Okay, that's not helping me...

131 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:28:52am

re: #127 yma o hyd

Dim yn galli siarad yn cymraeg ...

uhhh ... hang on just a second, let me run to the bookstore and buy a Welsh/English dictionary.

132 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:28:53am

re: #126 subsailor68

LOL! Say, we could probably make a buck if we take the Hooters concept over there.

Whiskey, democracy, sexy!

133 maddogg  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:02am

re: #125 MandyManners

I couldn't let it go. I just couldn't.

Sounds a bit obsessive. I'm told I'm obsessive.

134 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:06am

re: #118 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Post in Welsh, then you'll be safe.
:D

Aww - I am not fluent in Welsh, and no Lizard would understand me ...

'Tis a harrrrd worrrrld, to be sure!

135 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:20am

re: #130 Occasional Reader

Okay, that's not helping me...

It didn't seem to help Richard Burton either?

136 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:22am

re: #99 vagabond trader

The IRA beef with the Brits is political, not religous.With the Islamists, religion and politics are one and the same. Don't expect your average libral to comprehend that little factoid.

Right, the IRA goal was & is a united Ireland. They make no claim on Britain. The Palis on the other hand wish to desroy & then occupy Israel.

137 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:37am

OT:Water jetpack

Liveleak Video
138 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:38am

All right stop, collaborate and listen

That's your que, Buzzsaw.

139 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:44am

re: #127 yma o hyd

Dim yn galli siarad yn cymraeg ...

Youtube Video
140 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:29:51am

re: #127 yma o hyd

Dim yn galli siarad yn cymraeg ...

/I don't know what that means, but if it means what I think it means, you're nasty.
;--)

141 Buck  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:14am

Important question:

What side of the dead tally does this guy go?

Israeli death, or Palestinian Death?

Very important....

142 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:18am

Gee, maybe we could apply this to the "collaborators" we have at Gitmo. I can just hear the left now. And no I am not serious. First the military tribunal.

143 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:19am

re: #132 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Whiskey, democracy, sexy!

You can open up a stone kiosk next door and sell the nice smooth "tossin' stones" to the mob that gathers outside too. That would make more profit for you than the Hooters aka Looters would.

144 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:23am

re: #129 Nevergiveup

Did the cad insult the dignity of American Women?

Look at the No. 1 Bottom Comment.

145 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:32am

re: #128 Occasional Reader

The waitresses at your local Hooters strip?!

Is that in the Hooters "Platinum Lounge" or something?

Don't impose your reality on me.

146 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:40am

re: #132 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Whiskey, democracy, sexy!

Free Hummus at every happy hour!

Oh wait, Free Hummus sounds like something we'd see on a sign at a moonbat parade.

147 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:30:59am

re: #133 maddogg

Sounds a bit obsessive. I'm told I'm obsessive.

I can be a bit of a terrier at times.

148 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:31:33am

re: #134 yma o hyd

'Tis a harrrrd worrrrld!

To all and sundry, this is the sound made as a UK lizard Wales.

149 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:31:42am

Time for lunch. BBL.

150 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:32:09am

re: #147 MandyManners

I can be a bit of a terrier at times.


You ain't woofin'

151 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:32:11am

re: #144 MandyManners

Look at the No. 1 Bottom Comment.

Thanks. I betting he didn't vote for McCain.

152 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:32:15am

re: #137 Killgore Trout

OT:Water jetpack

[Video]

Sheeatt, that's nothin'

I hear the Dems found a guy who can walk across water...

153 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:32:35am
154 pat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:32:40am

He was an Israeli spy. That is enough for the left to cheer his death.

155 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:32:54am

re: #147 MandyManners

I can be a bit of a terrier at times.

Didn't President Bush declare a War on Terriers?

156 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:33:16am

re: #131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

uhhh ... hang on just a second, let me run to the bookstore and buy a Welsh/English dictionary.

Heh.
It just means that I'm not able to speak Welsh ...
Standard phrase, very useful when native speakers get going!

157 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:33:18am

re: #151 Nevergiveup

Thanks. I betting he didn't vote for McCain.

I didn't vote for McCain either. I voted for Sarah Palin and he just happened to be on the same ticket.

;-)

158 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:33:19am

Clinton: Israel has the right to defend itself

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that Israel had a right to defend itself and that Palestinian rocket attacks on the Jewish territory could not go unanswered.


"We support Israel's right to self-defense. The (Palestinian) rocket barrages which are getting closer and closer to populated areas (in Israel) cannot go unanswered," Clinton said in her first news conference at the State Department.


"It is regrettable that the Hamas leadership apparently believes that it is in their interest to provoke the right of self-defense instead of building a better future for the people of Gaza," she added.

159 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:33:47am

BBIAB - feeding time for Madame Dog!

160 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:33:49am

re: #157 subsailor68

I didn't vote for McCain either. I voted for Sarah Palin and he just happened to be on the same ticket.

;-)

I'm with ya.

161 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:33:55am
162 akak  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:33:56am
Livni vs. Livni: Tzipi's Brother Campaigns for Netanyahu
Tzipi Livni's brother Eli says being Prime Minister is "too large" a task for her. He is campaigning for her rival, Likud chairman Bibi Netanyahu.

lol, she is worse than Olmert.

163 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:34:24am

re: #153 buzzsawmonkey

Jordan was formed from the lion's share of Mandate Palestine.

Whenever Jimmy Carter jets off to hobnob with the likes of Haniyeh, I think of it as a Man-date.

164 pat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:34:57am

Interesting day at work. I tour a rum distillery today.

165 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:35:12am

re: #158 Killgore Trout

Clinton: Israel has the right to defend itself

Hum. But at the same time her boss is saying everything we have stood for the last 8 years is wrong? Confusing?

166 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:35:16am

re: #161 buzzsawmonkey

Drill, ye terriers, drill.


I bent over and got a terrier in my pants.

167 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:35:19am
168 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:35:23am

re: #163 Occasional Reader

Whenever Jimmy Carter jets off to hobnob with the likes of Haniyeh, I think of it as a Man-date.

Heh, heh. Love it. Also gives a whole new meaning to man-boobs, doesn't it?

169 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:35:27am

re: #163 Occasional Reader

Whenever Jimmy Carter jets off to hobnob with the likes of Haniyeh, I think of it as a Man-date.

I'm going to ig-Noor you.

170 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:35:43am

re: #164 pat

Interesting day at work. I tour a rum distillery today.

and you can still type...amazing...:)

171 pat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:36:29am

re: #170 Dustyvet

Well my day hasn't started yet. ;)

172 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:36:57am

re: #161 buzzsawmonkey

Drill, ye terriers, drill.

Oh noes... not the canine pr0n thread.

(Now that was one obscure mahfahin' song reference.)

173 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:37:33am

re: #164 pat

Interesting day at work. I tour a rum distillery today.

I will tour a bottle of distilled rum later on this evening....Cap'n Morgan is calling me

174 maddogg  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:38:12am

re: #147 MandyManners

I can be a bit of a terrier at times.

I am told I'm obsessive by people who give up after the first few tries to get something right. I may never stop trying to do something. I just change the angle and speed of attack. So I'm obsessive.

175 Elcid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:38:13am
The international left

.

May as well toss in their junior branch the "National Left".

Head of movement...Many.

Presently most popular Billy Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.

Adored God like evils: Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot.

176 kansas  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:38:31am

re: #172 Occasional Reader

Oh noes... not the canine pr0n thread.

(Now that was one obscure mahfahin' song reference.)

Oh it's work all day for sugar in your tay.......obscure eh?

177 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:38:42am

re: #165 Nevergiveup

It's the Alinsky treatment gone international. The old baffle the masses with BS, create chaos, etc.

178 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:39:13am

Today is Holocaust Remembrance Day. The RoP celebrates.....

Liveleak Video

Aired On Jan 26th,WARNING : Disturbing Holocaust Footage : Egyptian Cleric Amin Al-Ansari Justifies the Holocaust, Airs Footage, and Declares: "This Is What We Hope Will Happen But, Allah Willing, at the Hand of the Muslims"

179 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:39:18am

re: #122 lostlakehiker

Why stretch, and make the killing of somebody who'd been sentenced to death for treason by a court of sorts into Exhibit A in the wickedness of Hamas?

To point up (yet again) the double standard. This was clearly a "court" that would make even kangaroos feel embarrassed. If Israel did anything remotely like this, the international "human rights" racket would scream to the high heavens.

180 Buck  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:39:31am

re: #122 lostlakehiker

He was sentenced to death in 2002, do you think that his appeals just ran out? Do you think he was given a fair trial? Did he know anything he said would be held against him?

If he was sentenced to death by Hamas 8 year ago, why would he not leave the area?

This man was murdered without any form or process. There is NO rule of law there, despite what the Palestinian press would tell us.

Hamas has (from the start) taken power the old fashioned way. They only won that last election because of threats, and violence. And they keep power in Gaza by killing, crippling, and throwing opposition off of roof tops.

There is NO RULE OF LAW in Gaza. Hamas is running wild, and killing on whim. they have done it before and they do it again.

AND every Pal they kill shows up in the "Palestinians Killed since Hamas took power" column and everyone just assumes they were "killed" by Israel.

181 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:39:32am
182 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:40:16am

re: #176 kansas

Oh it's work all day for sugar in your tay.......obscure eh?

And doesn't it go ... "down BEHIND the railway" ?
I could never figure that one out, but sang it that way anyway.

183 jamgarr  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:40:16am

re: #96 unreconstructed rebel


cash-money

Reminds me of one of my alltime favorite commercials:

Trooper: "You in a heap o' trouble, boy!"

Gomer: "I paid for them chickens cash money!"

184 MJ  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:40:21am

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that Israel had a right to defend itself and that Palestinian rocket attacks on the Jewish territory could not go unanswered.

"We support Israel's right to self-defense.re: #158 Killgore Trout

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that Israel had a right to defend itself and that Palestinian rocket attacks on the Jewish territory could not go unanswered.

How nice of the State Department to agree that Israel has a "right to defend itself" and it's citizens.
Like it needs the US permission to defend itself.

Go stick it up your collective asses. Israel does not need the the damn State Department's approval to defend itself.

185 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:40:59am

re: #175 Elcid

.

May as well toss in their junior branch the "National Left".

Head of movement...Many.

Presently most popular Billy Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.

Adored God like evils: Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot.

How long before their secret support role will be out in the open?
Will 0bama ever allow those two a place at the table, in the Lincoln Bedroom, a role in his Administration?

186 Pyrocles  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:41:09am

And any residual sympathy for the Palestinians left over from my Liberal college days continues to evaporate.

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Today is Holocaust Remembrance Day. The RoP celebrates.....

[Video]

187 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:42:01am

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Today is Holocaust Remembrance Day. The RoP celebrates.....

Liveleak Video

Juan Cole assures me that this is all a mistranslation. The cleric was actually saying "be kind to animals" and "give a hoot, don't pollute". You have to understand the rich nuances of the Arabic language.

188 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:42:22am

re: #184 MJ

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that Israel had a right to defend itself and that Palestinian rocket attacks on the Jewish territory could not go unanswered.

"We support Israel's right to self-defense.

How nice of the State Department to agree that Israel has a "right to defend itself" and it's citizens.
Like it needs the US permission to defend itself.

Go stick it up your collective asses. Israel does not need the the damn State Department's approval to defend itself.


What amazes me is that the statement was made that directly.
That's not good for Obama's goal to make the world like us better and stuff.

189 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:42:32am

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Today is Holocaust Remembrance Day. The RoP celebrates.....

[Video]

I thought the RoP said the Holocaust never happened?
I'm confused. Actually, they're confused, not me.

190 jorline  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:42:35am

Hamas Murders Human Rights Worker.

Coming soon to the MSM headlines.
////////////////////////////

191 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:42:51am

You guys gotta watch the vid at #178. Possibly one of the most shocking Mermi videos I've seen.

192 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:43:04am

re: #184 MJ

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that Israel had a right to defend itself and that Palestinian rocket attacks on the Jewish territory could not go unanswered.

"We support Israel's right to self-defense.

How nice of the State Department to agree that Israel has a "right to defend itself" and it's citizens.
Like it needs the US permission to defend itself.

Go stick it up your collective asses. Israel does not need the the damn State Department's approval to defend itself.

Well, while I totally agree with your point that Israel doesn't need State's approval to defend itself, I kind of glad Hillary didn't come out with a statement counseling Israel to "use restraint." (Of course, that may come soon, but I'm a glass half full kinda guy.0

193 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:43:16am

re: #187 Occasional Reader

Ha!

194 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:43:27am

re: #180 Buck

He was sentenced to death in 2002, do you think that his appeals just ran out? Do you think he was given a fair trial? Did he know anything he said would be held against him?

If he was sentenced to death by Hamas 8 year ago, why would he not leave the area?

This man was murdered without any form or process. There is NO rule of law there, despite what the Palestinian press would tell us.

Hamas has (from the start) taken power the old fashioned way. They only won that last election because of threats, and violence. And they keep power in Gaza by killing, crippling, and throwing opposition off of roof tops.

There is NO RULE OF LAW in Gaza. Hamas is running wild, and killing on whim. they have done it before and they do it again.

AND every Pal they kill shows up in the "Palestinians Killed since Hamas took power" column and everyone just assumes they were "killed" by Israel.


Yep- never in the headline is it. . .

195 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:43:29am
196 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:43:37am

re: #184 MJ

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that Israel had a right to defend itself and that Palestinian rocket attacks on the Jewish territory could not go unanswered.

"We support Israel's right to self-defense.


How nice of the State Department to agree that Israel has a "right to defend itself" and it's citizens.
Like it needs the US permission to defend itself.

Go stick it up your collective asses. Israel does not need the the damn State Department's approval to defend itself.

I think that the story is that Hillary & Obama are heading for a clash.
Whatever else I might think of her, Hillary is an adult & does not hate her country or Israel. The same can't be said about BHO.

197 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:43:55am

re: #122 lostlakehiker

Why stretch, and make the killing of somebody who'd been sentenced to death for treason by a court of sorts into Exhibit A in the wickedness of Hamas?

Do you seriously, honestly believe that there is anything resembling "due process" in the PA?

198 BakiShamil  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:44:43am

People embrace for nightmares ahead. If dont bow down to new rulers in US or abroad you will jailed or killed.

199 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:44:56am

re: #197 Alouette

Do you seriously, honestly believe that there is anything resembling "due process" in the PA?

Sure. You pay your dues, we'll process your death sentence paperwork.

200 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:45:27am

re: #196 opnion

I think that the story is that Hillary & Obama are heading for a clash.
Whatever else I might think of her, Hillary is an adult & does not hate her country or Israel. The same can't be said about BHO.

And we all know who is gonna win that fight. That is why I was amazed she took the job and gave up her "safe" seat.

201 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:45:28am

re: #191 Killgore Trout

You guys gotta watch the vid at #178. Possibly one of the most shocking Mermi videos I've seen.

You got a hat tip. :)

202 kansas  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:45:53am

re: #191 Killgore Trout

You guys gotta watch the vid at #178. Possibly one of the most shocking Mermi videos I've seen.

I'm two minutes in and want to kill myself. These guys are good.

203 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:46:13am

re: #201 Alouette

Thanks.

204 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:46:26am

re: #196 opnion

I think that the story is that Hillary & Obama are heading for a clash.
Whatever else I might think of her, Hillary is an adult & does not hate her country or Israel. The same can't be said about BHO.

I think Hillary was given the State Dept position because BH0 knows that she'll have a hard time there. It was a bone to get her support, and get her out of the way, but put her in a position where she'll be frustrated.
Wasn't Samantha Power, who called her a "monster", put on the State Dept transition team? What a hint.

205 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:46:35am

re: #196 opnion

I think that the story is that Hillary & Obama are heading for a clash.
Whatever else I might think of her, Hillary is an adult & does not hate her country or Israel. The same can't be said about BHO.

I commented several days ago about Obama's willingness to open up information on "past presidents" as a veiled threat on Clinton (and a more obvious one towards Bush, of course).

I wonder if Hillary just said "Bring it on".

206 gop_patriot  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:46:45am

re: #178 Killgore Trout

...But it's not about the Jewish people, it's about the world-controlling political entity, the Zionists, and that illegitimate country of theirs, Israel!

///leftist apologists for these islamic terrorist bastards

**********

Honestly, when I heard the guy's simpering voice and saw his ugly hate-filled face in the video, I just shut it off. I might be able to watch it later, not sure though. Trying to be careful about what I say, or I might be deleted.

207 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:46:45am

Hamas is a charity and a political party!

They are not "terrorists" like "some people" call them!

Can I have my "Free Mumia" T-Shirt now?

/

208 Clio  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:46:51am

re: #120 Occasional Reader

For those of us who are Hebrew-impaired, what is the meaning of "shin beth"?

In this usage, "shin" and "bet" are names of the letters of the alphabet.

209 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:47:15am

re: #200 Nevergiveup

And we all know who is gonna win that fight. That is why I was amazed she took the job and gave up her "safe" seat.

I was surprised too. I don't see how Hillary & Obama coexist.
He better really be grateful for the Secret Service, cause I'm pretty sure that Hillary could kick his ass.

210 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:47:17am

re: #202 kansas

Just wait till you see what happens at about 7:00.

211 kansas  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:48:42am

re: #210 Killgore Trout

Just wait till you see what happens at about 7:00.

No can do. Life is too short. It's hard to not say things that would make this site look bad. Like Kos so some say. I............never mind, have to stop now. Going to get ugly.

212 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:49:19am

re: #155 Occasional Reader

Didn't President Bush declare a War on Terriers?

Not every dog is a terrier....but, every terrier is a dog.
So there.

:)

213 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:49:35am

re: #209 opnion

I was surprised too. I don't see how Hillary & Obama coexist.
He better really be grateful for the Secret Service, cause I'm pretty sure that Hillary could kick his ass.

Hillary has more balls than 0bama does.

To think, a year ago, she was Hildemort, the One Who Must Not Be Elected, and now, the 0ne has changed our minds, to figure she's not so bad, after all. Kind of like the flu isn't as bad as terminal lung cancer.

214 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:49:40am

re: #191 Killgore Trout

You guys gotta watch the vid at #178. Possibly one of the most shocking Mermi videos I've seen.


This thug reminds me of a gypsy that tried to rip me off in Rome a few years back.
Smooth talking oily bastard. Child of the "Father of Lies".

215 MJ  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:50:07am

re: #196 opnion

I think that the story is that Hillary & Obama are heading for a clash.
Whatever else I might think of her, Hillary is an adult & does not hate her country or Israel. The same can't be said about BHO.

Could be.
It's interesting to me that Obama has totally preempted Clinton and the State Department by, in effect, going over their heads with that interview on Jihad TV. Obama appears to want to control all aspects of his Presidency...a trait he'd share in common with Jimmy Carter.

216 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:50:22am

re: #204 Kosh's Shadow

re: #205 jwb7605

Messin with the Clionon's can be a very dagerous enterprise.
If Obama tries to push Hillary around, the women that supported Hillary & only gave BHO luke warm support will rebel. Palin might look real good to them in 2012.

217 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:50:51am

re: #195 buzzsawmonkey

No, it's "down beyond the railway," because the tarriers were the folks who laid the roadbed for the rails which would follow.

Yeah, knew that, but I could've sworn the word was "behind".

/senior moment

218 gop_patriot  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:51:21am

Going to eat lunch now.

Keep up the good work, Charles. And thanks for unearthing that video, Killgore.

sigh

219 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:51:46am

re: #213 Kosh's Shadow

Hillary has more balls than 0bama does.

To think, a year ago, she was Hildemort, the One Who Must Not Be Elected, and now, the 0ne has changed our minds, to figure she's not so bad, after all. Kind of like the flu isn't as bad as terminal lung cancer.

Excellent analogy. BHO has made Hillary look good.

220 Elcid  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:52:03am

re: #185 mean Gene

How long before their secret support role will be out in the open?
Will 0bama ever allow those two a place at the table, in the Lincoln Bedroom, a role in his Administration?

mean Gene. I doubt any of their footsie goings on, will see the light of day...UNLESS the Big O, keeps pissing of the hand that fed him, the MSM.

Lincoln bedroom? I would assume them rocking that bed, would be the culmination of their wildest dreams.

Role in the Admin....Of course, on the QT.

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:52:13am

re: #178 Killgore Trout

GAH!

222 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:52:23am

re: #212 LGoPs

Not every dog is a terrier....but, every terrier is a dog.
So there.

:)

Oh goody! more Dogma...:)

223 kansas  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:52:32am

re: #182 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And doesn't it go ... "down BEHIND the railway" ?
I could never figure that one out, but sang it that way anyway.

I was in 2nd grade when we sang that I think. Behind, beyond, either works for me.

224 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:52:36am

re: #216 opnion

re: #205 jwb7605

Messin with the Clionon's can be a very dagerous enterprise.
If Obama tries to push Hillary around, the women that supported Hillary & only gave BHO luke warm support will rebel. Palin might look real good to them in 2012.


Unlikely. Palin is completely conservative.
My guess is that they would engage in equal opportunity bashing.

225 jorline  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:52:50am

Guess who will be playing the fiddle while the US burns.

226 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:53:04am

re: #191 Killgore Trout

You guys gotta watch the vid at #178. Possibly one of the most shocking Mermi videos I've seen.

Wow. So, Israel encouraged the Allied armies to attack Germany in World War II. Damn, even Pat Buchanan sounds sane next to this ranting moron. And the Holocaust was a way for... what was it?... the Jews to spread corruption among the Germans. Got it.

/spit

227 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:53:17am

re: #215 MJ

Could be.
It's interesting to me that Obama has totally preempted Clinton and the State Department by, in effect, going over their heads with that interview on Jihad TV. Obama appears to want to control all aspects of his Presidency...a trait he'd share in common with Jimmy Carter.

And we all know how well that turned out...

228 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:53:30am

re: #215 MJ

Could be.
It's interesting to me that Obama has totally preempted Clinton and the State Department by, in effect, going over their heads with that interview on Jihad TV. Obama appears to want to control all aspects of his Presidency...a trait he'd share in common with Jimmy Carter.

Right, he got all of those organizational skills as a Coomunity organizer.
He is swimming with sharks & he will bleed.

229 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:53:36am

re: #225 jorline

Guess who will be playing the fiddle while the US burns.

THE MESSIAH CAN PLAY THE FIDDLE!?

He is soooooo talented!

/

230 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:53:39am

re: #222 Dustyvet

Oh goody! more Dogma...:)

Ooh! A pun thread? Can't wait to get my K-9's into this one.

Good Afternoon Lizards!

231 RedPepper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:53:49am

re: #209 opnion

I was surprised too. I don't see how Hillary & Obama coexist.
He better really be grateful for the Secret Service, cause I'm pretty sure that Hillary could kick his ass.

IIRC ... isn't the Secretary of State fourth in the line of succession?
After VPOTUS, Speaker of the House, & President Pro Tempore of the Senate?

232 kansas  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:53:53am

re: #226 Occasional Reader

Damn, even Pat Buchanan sounds sane next to this ranting moron.

/spit

I don't know, Bucky has pretty much gone over the edge.

233 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:54:52am

re: #219 opnion

Excellent analogy. BHO has made Hillary look good.

The US would have survived a Hillary Clinton presidency. She might be power hungry, but that means she would want to keep the US strong enough to give her power.

I'm not so sure the US will survive 0bama, at least in the way we would want it to be. I can already see several changes starting that would completely ruin the US, from a one-party rule (Pelosi shares blame here), to surrender to Islamicists.

234 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:55:05am

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that's probably the most outrageous Memri video I've seen. I'm hard pressed to think of one that can compete. I watched it a second time, it's almost unbelievable.

235 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:55:13am

re: #224 jwb7605

Unlikely. Palin is completely conservative.
My guess is that they would engage in equal opportunity bashing.

The issue is as always abortion, so you may be right. but if Hillary is really dissed, who knows?

236 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:55:21am

Herzl invented dynamite?

237 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:55:26am

re: #231 RedPepper

IIRC ... isn't the Secretary of State fourth in the line of succession?
After VPOTUS, Speaker of the House, & President Pro Tempore of the Senate?

Yep, here's the full list (it's Wiki, but even they can be right once in awhile):

Line of succession

238 opnion  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:55:59am

re: #231 RedPepper

IIRC ... isn't the Secretary of State fourth in the line of succession?
After VPOTUS, Speaker of the House, & President Pro Tempore of the Senate?

I think that is correct.

239 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:56:28am

re: #230 Ford_Prefect

Ooh! A pun thread? Can't wait to get my K-9's into this one.

Good Afternoon Lizards!

A lady awoke one morning and discovered her dog was not moving. She called her vet who asked her to bring the dog in. After a brief examination, the vet pronounced the dog dead.

"Are you sure?", the distraught woman asked. "He was a great family pet. Isn't there anything else you can do?"

The vet paused for a moment and said, "There is one more thing we can do." He left the room for a moment and came back carrying a large cage with a cat in it. The vet opened the cage door and the cat walked over to the dog. The cat sniffed the dog from head to toe and walked back to the cage.

"Well, that confirms it." the vet announced. "Your dog is dead."

Satisfied that the vet had done everything he possibly could, the woman sighed, "How much do I owe you?"

"That will be $330." the vet replied.

"I don't believe it!", screamed the woman. "What did you do that cost $330!?

"Well", the vet replied, "it's $30 for the office visit and $300 for the cat scan."

240 Buck  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:56:51am

re: #188 jwb7605

What amazes me is that the statement was made that directly.
That's not good for Obama's goal to make the world like us better and stuff.

Obama is on record as saying:

If someone was sending rockets on my house where my daughters were sleeping at night, I would do everything to stop it.

That is pretty direct.

241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:57:07am

re: #229 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

THE MESSIAH CAN PLAY THE FIDDLE!?

He is soooooo talented!

/

"Well, you play pretty good fiddle boy;
Now, give the devil his due;
I'll bet a fiddle of gold against your soul;
'Cause I think I'm better'n you.

242 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:57:07am

re: #235 opnion

The issue is as always abortion, so you may be right. but if Hillary is really dissed, who knows?

Most likely scenario in my pointy head involves Hillary resigning and doing what Colin Powell did to Bush.

243 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:57:09am

re: #178 Killgore Trout


Stay tuned!

Coming up next, our interview with Barack Obama!

244 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:57:23am

re: #210 Killgore Trout

Just wait till you see what happens at about 7:00.

You would think someone would pass him a hat pin to keep the table cloth from slipping of his melon!

245 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:57:26am

re: #237 subsailor68

Yep, here's the full list (it's Wiki, but even they can be right once in awhile):

Line of succession

That list is enough to make you want to vomit

246 RedPepper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:57:28am

re: #237 subsailor68

Why do I suddenly feel ... uneasy?

247 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:58:09am

re: #245 Nevergiveup

That list is enough to make you want to vomit

Ya know, I was just looking for the office - I sure didn't need to see that other column.

:-)

248 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:58:56am

re: #246 RedPepper

Why do I suddenly feel ... uneasy?

Hmm, probably for the same reason nevergiveup and I do.

;-)

249 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:58:59am

re: #236 Ben Hur

Herzl invented dynamite?

Dynamite was invented by Swedish technologist Alfred Nobel (1833-1896)


And somebody tell that twit, the cafe wants it's tablecloth back!

250 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:59:03am

re: #245 Nevergiveup

That list is enough to make you want to vomit

Kind of makes one yearn for a Cylon attack

251 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:59:44am

re: #210 Killgore Trout

Just wait till you see what happens at about 7:00.

Now I am sick.

(And note that this scumbag doesn't even understand his own hateful propaganda... he keeps thinking that American soldiers appearing in the concentration camp footage are German soldiers.)

252 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:00:02am

re: #249 Dustyvet

Dynamite was invented by Swedish technologist Alfred Nobel (1833-1896)


And somebody tell that twit, the cafe wants it's tablecloth back!

Not after where it's been!

253 dhg4  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:00:28am

re: #24 lawhawk

This is yet another message sent to those who might support Fatah or want to see Hamas ousted from Gaza; anyone who opposes Hamas will face execution should they be caught. It's incentive not to act against Hamas.

Gaza is a prison of Hamas' own making and design. They control all aspects and everything that happens there is with the goal of jihad in mind.

It's a good point, which makes it all the more remarkable that it seems that more than a few Gazans are willing to speak out and give lie to the mantra that Israel's self-defense has only "strengthened the extremists."

254 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:00:29am

re: #240 Buck

That is pretty direct.

It was said in Israel.
We have to wait a few months to get a direct read on Obama.

I think it's a question of whether Obama caves to his appointed people (which, I believe, includes Rahm Emanuel), or whether the Arabs and European liberals corner him.

255 Buck  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:00:33am

re: #236 Ben Hur

Herzl invented dynamite?

Why do you say that? Where did that come from?

256 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:01:04am
257 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:01:17am

re: #236 Ben Hur

Herzl invented dynamite?

Or missiles, or something. Because he was a scientist, you see.

/

(Not just evil, moronic evil)

258 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:01:41am
259 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:02:21am

re: #241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Well, you play pretty good fiddle boy;
Now, give the devil his due;
I'll bet a fiddle of gold against your soul;
'Cause I think I'm better'n you.

My name is Barry,
and it might be a sin,
but it's a bet you're gonna regret,
cause I'm the best that's ever been.

Barry, rosin up your bow
and play your fiddle hard
'cause hell's broke loose in Iran
And the mullahs deal the cards

260 UberInfidel67  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:02:32am

re: #244 sattv4u2 I'd use a nail gun.

261 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:02:43am

So, Hillary invited Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Robert Byrd to a very special Japanese dinner:

Blowfish testicles poison 7

(In other news, Hootie taken into custody)

262 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:02:56am

re: #241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


"Well, you play pretty good fiddle boy;
Now, give the devil his due;
I'll bet a fiddle of gold against your soul;
'Cause I think I'm better'n you.

In my opinion, the Devil won that competition; his piece was much better than "Johnny's". Okay, so he cheated by bringing in a band of demons for accompaniment, but hey, he's the Devil, what do you expect?

263 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:03:54am
264 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:04:03am

re: #239 Dustyvet

A man comes home one day to find a bear on the roof of his house. He is not sure what to do so he calls an exterminator. He asks the exterminator if he can get rid of a bear on the roof of his house. The man says yes and that he will be right over.

When the exterminator gets there he takes a few things out of his truck: a ladder, a stick, a shotgun and a Pit-Bull. He hands the shotgun to the homeowner and says, "OK, I am going to use the ladder to get up on the roof, and then I will use the stick to try and knock the bear off the roof. When there bear lands on the ground the dog will rip his b*lls off, and the bear will run away."

The homeowner say "Alright. But what is the shotgun for?"

The exterminator says "If the bear knocks me off the roof, I want you to shoot the dog."

265 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:04:10am

re: #262 Occasional Reader

In my opinion, the Devil won that competition; his piece was much better than "Johnny's". Okay, so he cheated by bringing in a band of demons for accompaniment, but hey, he's the Devil, what do you expect?

I think he's also gay. Isn't that what "Devil in a Blue Dress" was about?

266 Shug  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:04:15am

re: #262 Occasional Reader

In my opinion, the Devil won that competition; his piece was much better than "Johnny's". Okay, so he cheated by bringing in a band of demons for accompaniment, but hey, he's the Devil, what do you expect?

I have to agree with you on that one.
Nobody told Johnny he couldn't bring his own demons

267 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:04:17am

re: #237 subsailor68

Yep, here's the full list (it's Wiki, but even they can be right once in awhile):

Line of succession

The only tiny little pleasure I derive from that list is that nowhere does Harry Ried's name appear. That must really stick in his craw and as such makes me feel better.
The rest of the list makes me unwell.....

268 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:04:56am

re: #262 Occasional Reader

In my opinion, the Devil won that competition; his piece was much better than "Johnny's". Okay, so he cheated by bringing in a band of demons for accompaniment, but hey, he's the Devil, what do you expect?

I expect a rock off

Youtube Video
269 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:05:27am

re: #267 LGoPs

The only tiny little pleasure I derive from that list is that nowhere does Harry Ried's name appear. That must really stick in his craw and as such makes me feel better.
The rest of the list makes me unwell.....

You really are a glass half full guy aren't ya?

;-)

270 Green Helmet Guy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:06:12am

He was Martyred by progressive freedom fighters! not murdered.
Long live progress!
/

271 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:06:13am

re: #262 Occasional Reader

In my opinion, the Devil won that competition; his piece was much better than "Johnny's". Okay, so he cheated by bringing in a band of demons for accompaniment, but hey, he's the Devil, what do you expect?

Roman Emperor Nero, who roamed whilst his fiddle burned.

272 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:06:39am

re: #264 Ford_Prefect

I love that one. Heard it with a gorilla the first time.......LOL

273 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:06:53am

re: #263 buzzsawmonkey

I still can't get past his joy at seeing the torture and humiliation. It's really a reminder that they not only want to exterminate the Jews but they desperately want to do it in the cruelest possible way.

274 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:07:01am

re: #263 buzzsawmonkey

The commentator also wrongly describes some American soldiers in the footage he shows as "having been fighting the Jews only recently."

Also prior to that, a soldier standing next to a child who is "awaiting his turn" (to be killed, you see, as just revenge for attacking the Germans... gah); also a US soldier, not German.

When I look at this "cleric's" face, I can't help but think about that new iPod application.

275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:07:46am

That Devil sure gets around (Dave Grohl, in this one BTW)

276 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:08:08am

re: #261 subsailor68

So, Hillary invited Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Robert Byrd to a very special Japanese dinner:

Blowfish testicles poison 7

(In other news, Hootie taken into custody)

Iwase said the seven men ordered sashimi and grilled blowfish testicles at the restaurant Monday night.

No words.

277 gmsc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:08:17am

OT: Ten Things You Can Do To Save The Planet
A go-green guide for the Hollywood community
by Iowahawk

1. Reduce Water Consumption. One single dripping faucet or flushed bidet may not seem to be much of an environmental threat, but those numbers really add up when you’re hosting an NRDC fundraiser for Laurie David and all 10 of your bathrooms are in use. When possible, encourage guests to pee in the pool, and remind them that “if it’s yellow, let it mellow.” Unless you’re serving asparagus canapes.

2. “Green Begins At Home.” Whether you live in East Hampton or Topanga Canyon, there are dozens of little things you can do around your compound to reduce your carbon footprint. For instance, tell your groundskeeping crew to plant a tree. Save your leftover foie gras to grow your own homemade organic Botox. Turn off your energy wasting security cameras between 1 AM and 7 AM. If you own a vanity cattle ranch in Montana, email the trail boss and tell him/her to add Beano to your herd’s feed to reduce ozone-depleting methane emissions.

Read the whole thing.

278 ssn697  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:08:20am

"Ghanem pleaded guilty to collaborating, but denied responsibility for the killings. He told the court that he did not know that Israel would use the information to kill the activists.

Prosecutor Wael Zakut told the court Ghanem was recruited as an informer in 1996. He said he had been asked to monitor the movements of Fatah members Jamal Abdel Razek, Awni Dahir, Sami Abu Laban, and Nael Liddawi. "

He was a spy, was caught, and plead guilty. What is the sentence for that, during time of war, in America?

279 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:08:41am

The religion of peace

280 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:08:51am

re: #268 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ralph Macchio can play!

281 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:09:04am

re: #178 Killgore Trout
That was very disturbing, but very important. Thanks.

282 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:09:44am
283 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:09:45am

re: #276 MandyManners

Iwase said the seven men ordered sashimi and grilled blowfish testicles at the restaurant Monday night.

No words.

The blowfish was unavailable for comment, which would have been given in a very high squeaky voice in any case.

284 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:09:49am

re: #273 Killgore Trout

I still can't get past his joy at seeing the torture and humiliation. It's really a reminder that they not only want to exterminate the Jews but they desperately want to do it in the cruelest possible way.

But who are we to judge their culture blah blah blah...

285 Shug  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:10:34am

re: #277 gmsc

I laugh every time I click on iowahawks blog and see that photo of the guy with the pipe.

He is a brilliant wit, one of the best ( if not the best ) on the entire internet, IMO

286 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:11:06am

re: #273 Killgore Trout

I still can't get past his joy at seeing the torture and humiliation.

And he's a "cleric", folks. A "cleric".

287 MJ  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:11:22am

re: #278 ssn697

"Ghanem pleaded guilty to collaborating, but denied responsibility for the killings. He told the court that he did not know that Israel would use the information to kill the activists.

Prosecutor Wael Zakut told the court Ghanem was recruited as an informer in 1996. He said he had been asked to monitor the movements of Fatah members Jamal Abdel Razek, Awni Dahir, Sami Abu Laban, and Nael Liddawi. "

He was a spy, was caught, and plead guilty. What is the sentence for that, during time of war, in America?

Troll alert.

288 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:11:28am

re: #275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That Devil sure gets around (Dave Grohl, in this one BTW)

Thats Dave in 268 as well

289 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:12:02am

re: #285 Shug

He is a brilliant wit

Hey! Iowahawk is not a twit of any kind!

Oh, you said... gotcha

290 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:12:34am

re: #277 gmsc

OT: Ten Things You Can Do To Save The Planet
A go-green guide for the Hollywood community
by Iowahawk

Read the whole thing.

I like this one:

3. Upgrade To a New Gulfstream G550. Next time you take off for Cannes or Sundance or that big Environmental Defense Fund gala, stop and think how much fuel that clunky old G450 is using. Not only does the new G550 have real burled walnut and 10.8% better fuel efficiency, it has smoother ride — meaning 20% fewer annoying turbulence-related Cristal and cocaine spills. And with a maximum cruising speed of Mach 0.885 you’ll never be late for the red carpet at the Palm d’Or!

Don't tell the leftards - Israel Aircraft Industries builds major parts of some Gulfstreams.

291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:12:57am

re: #288 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats Dave in 268 as well

Jack Black is an excellent vocalist. Grohl is a freaking genius.

Seacrist Out!

292 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:13:34am

re: #278 ssn697

"Ghanem pleaded guilty to collaborating, but denied responsibility for the killings. He told the court that he did not know that Israel would use the information to kill the activists.

Prosecutor Wael Zakut told the court Ghanem was recruited as an informer in 1996. He said he had been asked to monitor the movements of Fatah members Jamal Abdel Razek, Awni Dahir, Sami Abu Laban, and Nael Liddawi. "

He was a spy, was caught, and plead guilty. What is the sentence for that, during time of war, in America?

re: #287 MJ

Troll alert.

maybe, but it's a valid observation.

293 jayzee  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:14:20am

This is made all the more disgusting in light of the fact the President boycotted Fox during the campaign.
A debatable right wing bias-BAD
An unquestionable terrorist/islamist bias-GOOD

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

294 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:14:22am

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Jack Black is an excellent vocalist. Grohl is a freaking genius.

Seacrist Out!

Agreed, both excellent musicians.

295 MJ  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:14:35am

re: #278 ssn697


Hamas is well known throughout the world for the fair and impartial justice system as well as their court of appeals.

296 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:14:40am
297 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:15:47am

re: #264 Ford_Prefect

A city guy moves to the country. After a few days he walks down the road to meet his neighbor, an elderly toothless old man who lives about a mile away.
the neighbor is sitting on his porch and seems friendly and invites the city guy to a party on Saturday night.
The city guy seems interested and asks what they'll be doing.
The neighbor says:
First we'll be doin' a lot of eatin' and drinkin'
City guy says 'that sounds fun'
Neighbor says 'then there'll be some fussin and some fightin'
City guy says ' Oh, I don't know about that. I don't like fighting'.
neighbor says; 'then we'll finish up with some kissin and some lovin'
The city guy says that that parts fine with him.
then the city guy asks who's going to be at the party and the neighbor says "oh, just you and me"

298 right_wing2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:16:20am

Why am I not surprised by this?

Jimmy Carter will, of course, excuse this and all other slaughters by his friends.

299 bellamags  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:16:28am

re: #275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That Devil sure gets around (Dave Grohl, in this one BTW)

Hey veggie, like your taste in music.

300 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:16:42am
301 Maine's Michael  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:17:03am

More cannibalism, please.

302 MJ  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:17:53am

re: #301 Maine's Michael

More cannibalism, please.

Hey MM. Where ya been?

303 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:18:39am

Tenacious D Classico

Youtube Video
304 BatGuano  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:18:48am

re: #296 ploome hineni

Hence the Balfour declaration

305 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:19:56am
306 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:20:16am

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Today is Holocaust Remembrance Day. The RoP celebrates.....

Liveleak Video

I have a suggestion of what to do with his beard that involves tweezers and rubbing alcohol or a rope and a door knob but, I'll refrain from posting it.

307 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:20:52am

re: #301 Maine's Michael

More cannibalism, please.

A man gets captured by cannibals and every day they poke him with spears and use his blood to wash down their food. Finally the guy calls the chief over and says, "You can kill me or you can eat me, but I'm tired of getting stuck for drinks."

308 SalsaNChips  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:21:03am

International Left – happily whistling and thinking warm fuzzy thoughts as they skip gaily into the rotating blades.

309 bellamags  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:21:06am

re: #306 MandyManners

I have a suggestion of what to do with his beard that involves tweezers and rubbing alcohol or a rope and a door knob but, I'll refrain from posting it.

Mandy, i can wax. it bleeds sometimes.

310 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:22:04am

...on the other end of the spectrum.....
Israel's Holocaust museum reaches out to Muslims

An exhibition on Albanian Muslims who sheltered Jews during World War II opened in this mixed Jewish-Arab town on Tuesday to mark International Holocaust Remembrance Day, but the event was overshadowed by tensions from Israel's offensive in the Gaza Strip.

It was the first time that Yad Vashem, Israel's national Holocaust memorial, has hosted a standing exhibition in Hebrew and Arabic. Holding the event in Ramle, a working-class town where thousands of Arabs live alongside Jews, underscored the organizers' goal of improving relations.

Some 20 Arab high school students toured the exhibition, confronted by a picture of strewn corpses in Bergen-Belsen concentration camp and then of black-and-white photographs of Albanian Muslims who sheltered Jews.

311 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:22:30am

re: #301 Maine's Michael

Mikey, you neoZiocon warmonger!

312 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:22:52am

re: #297 LGoPs

Man is driving through Maine and realizes that he is lost. He sees and old farmer by the side of the road and stops to ask him directions. The farmer proceeds to give the man very long and detailed directions. After writing everything down and making sure that he hasn't missed anything, the man thanks the farmer and heads off.

The man follows the directions to the tee, and after driving for about an hour he is shocked to find himself coming up on the same old farmer standing by the road. The man stops and says, "I don't understand it. I followed your directions exactly, and now I find myself right back where I started."

The farmer replies, "Ayuh, Ah just wanted to make suah that you could folla directions."

313 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:23:51am

re: #36 MJ

They could have just done a presser in one word:

ULULULULULULULULULU

314 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:23:52am

re: #278 ssn697

"Ghanem pleaded guilty to collaborating, but denied responsibility for the killings. He told the court that he did not know that Israel would use the information to kill the activists.

Prosecutor Wael Zakut told the court Ghanem was recruited as an informer in 1996. He said he had been asked to monitor the movements of Fatah members Jamal Abdel Razek, Awni Dahir, Sami Abu Laban, and Nael Liddawi. "

He was a spy, was caught, and plead guilty. What is the sentence for that, during time of war, in America?


Umm- a few questions;

Were all members of his family accounted for at the time of his confession?

Was this defendant Mirandized? What no Miranda warnings. . .

Umm, what of the new shiny rules at Gitmo. . .if that is indeed the standard. . .um no one has been put to death. . .so umm

If found gulity of being a spy, tried by a jury of his peers. . .are there peers for moderate Muslims in Hamastan? he would have been excuted. . .but I do not see this in this situation. . .was he denounced first, or did he get arrested?

I will say this chain of events would not have happened here. . .he may have been executed. . .but it would not have looked like this here. . .

315 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:23:55am

I see the video made it upstairs.

316 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:23:59am

re: #309 bellamags

Hey, bella. Like the new avatar.

317 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:24:01am
318 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:25:02am
319 bellamags  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:26:16am

re: #316 Ford_Prefect

Hey, bella. Like the new avatar.

Hey Ford, thanks. It is actually from a series of really funny but ridiculous videos on youtube. (Bizarre sense of humor helps) ; )

320 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:26:30am

re: #273 Killgore Trout

I have mentioned this a number of times here. When my brother-in-law was murdered by these savages, the Arabs in the Israeli hospital who were on the same floor ululated when he died. You get it? They are irredeemable barbarians. And they don't just want Jews dead.

321 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:26:43am
322 Natasha  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:26:49am

re: #317 ploome hineni

classic cargo cult thinking

these individuals are neanderthals...not yet human

I would dare say that it's not so much that they are not yet human. I believe they voluntarily and consciously surrendered their humanity. They are like cells in a body that become cancerous.

323 bellamags  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:27:30am

re: #320 WriterMom

I have mentioned this a number of times here. When my brother-in-law was murdered by these savages, the Arabs in the Israeli hospital who were on the same floor ululated when he died. You get it? They are irredeemable barbarians. And they don't just want Jews dead.

holy crap. i hadn't heard that writermom. they are completely insane and savage.

324 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:28:31am

re: #322 Natasha

they voluntarily and consciously surrendered their humanity

Good definition. Just like the Nazis.

325 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:28:39am

re: #320 WriterMom

I have mentioned this a number of times here. When my brother-in-law was murdered by these savages, the Arabs in the Israeli hospital who were on the same floor ululated when he died. You get it? They are irredeemable barbarians. And they don't just want Jews dead.

I'm speechless. I didn't know about it. Please accept my condolences, no matter how long ago it may have happened. I'll say a prayer.

326 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:28:58am

re: #323 bellamags

Savage yes-insane? No.

327 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:29:38am
328 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:30:17am

re: #301 Maine's Michael

More cannibalism, please.

Have a look at William Seabrook.

329 Natasha  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:30:37am

re: #324 WriterMom

The parallels are alarming, but not unexpected. Whenever the individual is subjected to the hive, whenever life stops being a value, mass murder and savagery are the only logical outcomes.

330 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:30:47am

re: #120 Occasional Reader

Shin Bet is the acronym of the Hebrew letters for "sherut bitachon" -security service. It's actually the "Shabak", sherut bitachon klali-General Security Service or GSS.

331 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:31:03am

re: #323 bellamags

holy crap. i hadn't heard that writermom. they are completely insane and savage.

The "women and children" is the hardest- my cousins are medics, they were among those that found the 9 months pregnant woman and her 4 daughters machince gunned to death. . .a 2 year old in her car seat riddled at point blank range. . .awful beyond the scope of understanding. . Noam never got over it. . .he helped get her out of her seat. . .

332 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:31:42am

re: #158 Killgore Trout

I never thought I would see the day when I felt more confident in Hilary Clinton than in an American President.

333 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:31:48am

re: #278 ssn697

"Ghanem pleaded guilty to collaborating, but denied responsibility for the killings. He told the court that he did not know that Israel would use the information to kill the activists.

Prosecutor Wael Zakut told the court Ghanem was recruited as an informer in 1996. He said he had been asked to monitor the movements of Fatah members Jamal Abdel Razek, Awni Dahir, Sami Abu Laban, and Nael Liddawi. "

He was a spy, was caught, and plead guilty. What is the sentence for that, during time of war, in America?

All-expenses paid vacation at a tropical Caribbean resort.

334 Maine's Michael  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:32:20am

re: #311 WriterMom

Mikey, you neoZiocon warmonger!

That's nothing.

You should see what I'm up to on 'Contentions'.

Did you know that given enough time, the Arab world will rid us of the problem of the Arab world?

335 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:32:29am

re: #20 Golem Akbar

I can smell the strongly worded memo all the way from here.

336 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:32:58am

re: #334 Maine's Michael

It's all mildly arousing..I mean...amusing...

337 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:33:56am

re: #324 WriterMom

re: #322 Natasha

they voluntarily and consciously surrendered their humanity

Good definition. Just like the Nazis.

That is as good a description of the process whereby normal people become evil as I have ever read.

338 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:35:08am

re: #337 Kenneth

Yes, I put it into my favourites so I will never forget the phrasing.

339 BatGuano  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 10:43:11am

An American is touring Israel in a rental car and needs directions. He stops in front of a house where a man is raking in the front yard. After getting the directions, the American asks, "What are you doing"?

The Israeli replies, "Raking my farm".
The American looks at the small lot of land and says, " Back home in Texas I get in my car at sunrise and and I don't get to the end of my farm until sunset"!

The Israeli says, "Yeah I once had a car like That".

340 Ron Shaw  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:20:43am

The international left continues to support this group of murderers, even as they kill people who work for the international left.

...and they will continue to do so...as they fiddle and whistle whilst they march to their graves.

341 gander  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:30:42am

They didn't crucify him, did they?

342 Amer-I-Can  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:46:21am
The international left continues to support this group of murderers, even as they kill people who work for the international left.

Karmic Justice?

343 the1sgjohns  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:47:45pm

It is interesting that the first thing that the Hamas investigation into how their military responded to the Israelis was to kill the first guy they talk to about it. Hamas: Oh, you must've collaborated, because your still alive. Death to you!
International Media: This just in Hamas investigation widens to the two guys on the left of the collaborator they just executed to find out why they are still alive after the Israeli invasion. More the follow, unless it's not flattering to Hamas.

344 quickjustice  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 12:54:38pm

It's appropriate to point out that Iraq Ba'ath Party, ousted when Saddam Hussein was overthrown by the U.S. invasion, was founded by the Gestapo in 1943 to combat British influence in the Middle East in favor of the Nazis, as were other Ba'ath Arab nationalist parties. The Haj of Jerusalem, Arafat's uncle back in the 1930s, was a close associate of Adolf Hitler's.

There's a strong Nazi influence that remains embedded within certain strains of Arab nationalism and extremist Islam. This guy is manifesting that toxic Nazi ideology, which we never entirely wiped out.

Barack Obama has demonstrated that either he doesn't get this at all, or he doesn't care. His carefully parsed "Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus-- and atheists" reverses the traditional "Christians and Jews, Muslims and Hindus" pairing in American political oratory. Is there a large significance to this? Obama will keep us guessing for a while.

345 descolada9  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:25:41pm

But don't you know that Hopenchange will stop these horrible crimes that were the fault of the Joos and the Israelis?! And Jimmuh told us that we can trust Hamas, that they aren't terrorists! Come on, people, Hopenchange, Hopenchange, Hopenchange!

/clicking my ruby slippers together but still getting sick and disgusted

346 proud to be an infidel  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:34:02pm

Notice that you will not see an article like this in any major news outlets like CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC and sad to say, even Fox News.

347 Code Red 21  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:36:55pm

No good deed goes unpunished. I wouldn't lift my little pinkie to help anyone in that Middle East crap hole.

348 Flavia  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:58:00pm

re: #63 Kosh's Shadow

I'm surprised no one has found a way to blame the Jooos for this yet.

Betselem has: their report begins with blaming Israel for going in in the first place, & outlining all the collaboration that went on... (spit, go wash hands with lye...)

349 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:27:09pm

re: #122 lostlakehiker

Why stretch, and make the killing of somebody who'd been sentenced to death for treason by a court of sorts into Exhibit A in the wickedness of Hamas?

I don't see it as a stretch at all. I consider Hamas to be a terrorist group, in charge of what is essentially a rogue state, and as such their courts and their "legal decisions" have no legitimacy whatsoever.


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