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1 Outrider  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:18:09pm

I'm all for eating them or wearing them

2 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:18:23pm

honco

3 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:20:08pm

Peter Marshall: Paul, can anything bring tears to a chimp's eyes?
Paul Lynde: Finding out that Tarzan swings both ways!

4 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:20:52pm

Are you sure that quote wasn't from Nugent?

5 BlueCanuck  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:20:55pm

re: #1 Outrider

I'm all for eating them or wearing them

Me too. I am a big fan of PETA. :)

6 Sharmuta  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:21:21pm

So-0bama's sick of the White House?

He should resign. Or perhaps it means he won't seek re-election?

Guess he should have thought of that before he tossed his hat into the ring.

What an ass.

7 jroberson  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:23:15pm

There is only four uses for animals:

Food.

Clothing.

Pets.

Visual entertainment.

I prefer to eat the tasty ones, kiss the cute ones and avoid the rest.

8 BlueCanuck  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:23:35pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

I saw that earlier on today. I wonder how he's going to feel come the end of his term.

9 Erik The Red  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:23:59pm

Received an update from Michael Yon this morning.

Afghanistan is in a sad state. Some folks are worried about "disturbing trends" in Afghanistan. I was concerned about disturbing trends back in early 2006. But that concern is over. My concern is more grave; that we will completely lose the war if we set expectations too high. We should downgrade our expectations for Afghanistan, and what we are willing to invest there. The world is a big place and there are other problems at hand. Iran just launched a satellite to orbit, for example. Afghanistan is such a sorry place that it will require at least decades severe effort to become half-way presentable, and likely a century to bring to anything respectable.

In Iraq, the light at the end of the tunnel was always bright (except during the civil war), and now Iraq is already out of the tunnel and blinking in the light of a new day. But Afghanistan is a national Humpty Dumpty. The best I see is the very distant, very dim, twinkling of a star. Or maybe it's just a phosphene and not a star at all. My humble recommendation is to downgrade all expectations for Afghanistan. Treat the patient as best we can, and concern ourselves with more important matters while striving not to allow Afghanistan to again become a launching pad for international terror. President Obama should not stake our national reputation on the idea that we will achieve our current more ambitious goals. Decrease expectations, and work on more important matters such as the world economy and other more serious military threats. Afghanistan is not worth so much effort when most of NATO has no heart and is virtually worthless. Eventually we'll likely end up alone, or mostly alone, holding the bag, while Europe goes home to its wine and beer.

Read the whole article Here

10 zombie  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:24:36pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

I hope he reverts to smoking pot, and sloughing off responsibilities, and is removed from office as incompetent four months from now.

11 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:24:58pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

So-0bama's sick of the White House?

He should resign. Or perhaps it means he won't seek re-election?

Guess he should have thought of that before he tossed his hat into the ring.

What an ass.

I think he is going to crack under the pressure in less than four years. Humpty Dumpty.

12 Chrees  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:25:16pm

"Public schools are for photo ops (but not for our kids)."

13 jroberson  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:25:50pm

PIMF. I meant 'there are'. Dang.

14 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:26:38pm

re: #3 Dustyvet

No kidding, ha! They used to set those questions up in advance IIRC.

15 Spiny Norman  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:27:07pm

Since the previous thread has gone way off topic, I'll post it here:

The creationism/ID supporters here at least try to present a cogent argument (well, most of the time), but the pro-ID commenters at Hot Air don't even bother even trying, it's just petty insults and ad hominems. It's hardly any different from a DKos thread. Sheesh.

I also hadn't noticed that "LGF is all Darwin, all the time" now, either...

16 Sharmuta  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:27:27pm

re: #10 zombie

Wouldn't that be something. We've never had a president crack under the pressure of the office. We could see a first. Again.

17 jroberson  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:27:39pm

re: #11 turn

Four years? You think it will take four years? He had to leave after two weeks!

Obama isn't an American Man, he's the polar opposite: a Child of the Left.

18 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:28:05pm

Noam Chomsky is still a dick.

19 Sharmuta  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:28:21pm

re: #15 Spiny Norman

Go back and post it down there- they go back on-topic once a new thread is established.

20 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:28:45pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

So-0bama's sick of the White House?

He should resign. Or perhaps it means he won't seek re-election?

Guess he should have thought of that before he tossed his hat into the ring.

What an ass.

Give two weeks notice and hit the road for Chicago, or quit without notice and he came be back in Chicago late this afternoon...

21 freetoken  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:28:51pm

re: #15 Spiny Norman


The creationism/ID supporters here [...]

There are some left?

22 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:29:46pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

Go back and post it down there- they go back on-topic once a new thread is established.

23 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:30:22pm

re: #22 turn

you f#$%d that up turn

rules - rules - rules

24 logboy  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:30:28pm

If we aren't supposed to eat them why are they so tasty?

25 zombie  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:30:50pm

re: #9 Erik The Red

phosphene

Very glad to see someone using the word "phosphene." I use it sometimes and no one has any idea what I'm talking about.

As a kid I used to goof around and give myself visual hallucinations by pressing on my eyeballs lightly. When some hippie dude asked what I was doing, and I said "Making myself see funny colors," and after he made me describe what they looked like, he said, "That sounds just like an acid trip!"

26 Sharmuta  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:31:26pm

re: #23 turn

Oh- I didn't mean it in a way that Spiny can't post it here, but that it would be welcomed still on the previous thread.

27 Spiny Norman  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:31:48pm

re: #7 jroberson

There is only four uses for animals:

Food.

Clothing.

Pets.

Visual entertainment.

I prefer to eat the tasty ones, kiss the cute ones and avoid the rest.

The ones that need avoiding usually do a good job of letting you know, too.

28 Sharmuta  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:32:16pm

Surrender Dorothy Resign 0bama!

29 Spiny Norman  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:33:12pm

re: #26 Sharmuta

Oh- I didn't mean it in a way that Spiny can't post it here, but that it would be welcomed still on the previous thread.

I figured it would be "dead thread" territory once a new post was up.

30 logboy  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:33:19pm

re: #28 Sharmuta

Surrender Dorothy Resign 0bama!

Time for Tim Geithner to Step Down, Too

31 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:33:29pm

re: #17 jroberson

Four years? You think it will take four years? He had to leave after two weeks!

Obama isn't an American Man, he's the polar opposite: a Child of the Left.

We should start a pool. Two weeks isn't enough time for the MFM to get wise and quit giving the one a pass on everything.

32 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:33:32pm

Sharmuta, I'm glad you saw my comment at #427 downstairs, I wondered what you thought of it. I think it goes much deeper than merely establishing a theocracy, these nutbars are at war with cultural modernity itself.

33 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:34:14pm

re: #26 Sharmuta

Oh, thanks.

34 jroberson  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:34:31pm

re: #18 HelloDare

Still? Was he ever anything but a dick? If you skip past his linguistic theory, he's got nothing to offer, yet his 'political' books are always on demand though. I wonder why. Useful idiot?

35 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:36:42pm

re: #34 jroberson

Still? Was he ever anything but a dick? If you skip past his linguistic theory, he's got nothing to offer, yet his 'political' books are always on demand though. I wonder why. Useful idiot?

Required reading?

36 Sharmuta  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:37:02pm

re: #29 Spiny Norman

They stay active for awhile. Usually pick up again in the morning. Heck- some go on for days.

37 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:37:38pm

Good evening/morning lizards. Just checking in for a few. OMG Old Blago is going to be on the Letterman show.

38 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:38:51pm

re: #37 Pvt Bin Jammin

Go see Drudge, Letterman embarrassed the shit out of him.

39 traderjoe9  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:39:03pm

The only cow in a small town in Poland stopped giving milk. The people did some research and found that they could buy a cow from Moscow for 2,000 rubles, or one from Minsk for 1,000 rubles. Being frugal, they bought the cow from Minsk.

The cow was wonderful. It produced lots of milk all the time, and the people were amazed and very happy. They decided to acquire a bull to mate with the cow and produce more cows like it. Then they would never have to worry about the milk supply again.

They bought a bull and put it in the pasture with their beloved cow. However, whenever the bull came close to the cow, the cow would move away. No matter what approach the bull tried, the cow would move away from the bull and he could not succeed in his quest.

The people were very upset and decided to ask their wise rabbi, what to do. They told the rabbi what was happening. "Whenever the bull approaches our cow, she moves away. If he approaches from the back, she moves forward.

When he approaches her from the front, she backs off. An approach from the side and she just walks away to the other side."

The rabbi thought about this for a minute and asked, "Did you buy this cow from Minsk?"

The people were dumbfounded, since they had never mentioned where they had gotten the cow. "You are truly a wise rabbi," they said.

"How did you know we got the cow from Minsk?"

The rabbi answered sadly, "My wife is from Minsk."

----
Good night! Lailva Tov! Spaikoni Nochi! Buenas Noches!

40 Sharmuta  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:39:36pm

re: #32 MrPaulRevere

I think you're exactly right. I see ID as a scientific affirmative action movement, and it's goal is to reverse the whole of the scientific enlightenment.

41 jroberson  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:39:36pm

re: #31 turn


The MSM isn't going to ever stop giving O a pass. Ever. They've invested far too much of themselves in his success. He's their spiritual and political baby, and they adore him. CNN. MSNBC, NYT. The Magi to the Messiah, but this Christ that can't perform has as many disciples as Palestine has suicide bombers.

He will never fail, even if a major American city has to take a nuke up the ass and millions die.

In the end, the new Left truism is eternal: It's always Bush's fault.

42 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:40:02pm

re: #38 turn

Go see Drudge, Letterman embarrassed the shit out of him.

I'll check it out, thanks.

43 jroberson  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:42:03pm

re: #35 turn

That too, but if you go to Borders, Barnes and Noble, you will always find his books in strong presence. Even if every other new bestselling current affairs book has but one copy, you'll find at least three copies of Manufacturing Dissent.

I'm sick of the guy. His fifteen minutes ended thirty years ago.

44 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:42:25pm

re: #41 jroberson

Liberals are always the first to jump from a sinking ship, and they take the friggin life boats with them.

45 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:42:41pm

re: #36 Sharmuta

They stay active for awhile. Usually pick up again in the morning. Heck- some go on for days.

It's amazing isn't it? Then we have the down dingers & it seems like a new crop of them every couple of weeks or so.

46 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:42:43pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

Quite right, but not only do they oppose scientific enlightenment, they are opposed to applying reason and logic to ANY subject.

47 BlueCanuck  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:45:02pm

re: #45 Pvt Bin Jammin

New and old sock puppets. After all the sticks that are given, I wonder how many lizards that are still "active". Be interesting to see the stats on that one.

48 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:45:36pm

I read most of the comments on Allahpundits thread at Hot Air, to say they were pathetic and disgraceful is being kind.

49 Erik The Red  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:47:02pm

re: #47 BlueCanuck

New and old sock puppets. After all the sticks that are given, I wonder how many lizards that are still "active". Be interesting to see the stats on that one.


I get the impression that Charles will leave the good ones but come down with a big stick on the nasty ones.

50 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:47:07pm

re: #45 Pvt Bin Jammin

It's amazing isn't it? Then we have the down dingers & it seems like a new crop of them every couple of weeks or so.


I think Charles should allow us to down-ding lurkers somehow. Maybe from the window where you check on dings.

51 jroberson  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:47:46pm

re: #44 turn

Yes, it certainly is women and children first for them.

Another creature that runs immediately from a life-threatening calamity: rats. And roaches. Scurrying, burrying disease-carrying creatures that live off trash and produce little but repulsion in cleaner animals.

I should stop now. Not all liberals are bad. Some are just misguided. But so many of them, along with the less apologetic and direct members of the left never cease trying to tear down America. Enemies, traitors, and instead of swinging fom a rope, they bellow from a lectern.

Sometimes I feel like I'm in an old Star Trek episode, the one(s) where the Enterprise enters a dark and evil mirror Universe.

52 BlueCanuck  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:48:34pm

re: #50 turn

No point to it I think. But if they are consistently doing it, they get the ultimate down ding.

/it only takes one when stinky is wielding his wrench. . . .

53 Sharmuta  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:48:43pm

re: #48 MrPaulRevere

Jeeze. I'm going to have to go look- I've been avoiding it. Maybe after I have a stiff drink, though.

54 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:51:12pm

re: #53 Sharmuta

I know Allahpundit's not everyone's cup of of tea to be generous, but he's right on this subject.

55 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:51:16pm

re: #47 BlueCanuck

New and old sock puppets. After all the sticks that are given, I wonder how many lizards that are still "active". Be interesting to see the stats on that one.

You're probably right about the sock puppets but dang we seem to get new down dingers all the time. It's like one got banned, went to his young earth meeting and got everybody to sign up at lgf so they could ding the scientific folks down. LOL It's better if they comment. I have a little bit of admiration for those folks.

56 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:52:04pm

re: #51 jroberson

Good always triumphed over evil in ST, now the reality of the one's rein of power. Talk about parallel universes.

57 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:52:16pm

Intro music for Blago is "My Way" LOL

58 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:53:24pm

re: #52 BlueCanuck

I didn't know Charles was riding herd on the lurkers. Good.

59 jroberson  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:55:35pm

re: #56 turn

Too true. O reminds me of a more handsome Ferengi, with whining imcompetance and big ears to boot. Ferengi are perverse capitalists though, so I wonder if the Ferengi ever had a commie Christ.

60 BlueCanuck  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:55:52pm

re: #58 turn

Yeah, there was one today that had the wrench dropped on him. Didn't see the area he was down dinging, but I did see Charles response in the thread it was mentioned in.

61 jroberson  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:56:30pm

re: #59 jroberson

dang again. need to use the spell checker.

62 Sharmuta  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:56:32pm

re: #58 turn

One tonight got shown the door.

63 Max Darkside  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:56:57pm

As there is no topic to be off, technically, I dare say anyone who bases their applications on MSFT SQLServer, even Express, is a buffoon. I wanted to try some software that requires SQLServer 2005, which is no longer found, so I download SQLServer Express 2008 but after a few minutes unpacking it says it needs .NET 2.0 SP2, so I go and look for that, but find only the .NET compact framework .NET 2.0 SP2, so I download and install that and then start the SQLServer Express 2008 setup again, but still it says it needs .NET 2.0 SP2, so I go again to look for that, but can't find it, so knowing that .NET 3.5 is really 2.0++, I go get that and download and install, which takes about 1/2 hour at least, and I once again start SQLServer Express 2008 setup which unpacks for a while and then says it needs Windows installer 4.5 or something, so I go find that, download and install, but it doesn't say it is Windows Installer 4.whatever, it says it's a hot fix, but it goes ok, so I run the SQLServer Express 2008 installer again which unpacks again for some minutes and then runs ok, but then you have to go through a planning step and I see I can just go to an install step, which I do and if you just click "Next" because you don't even understand what it is trying to say and after about 2-3 hours I successfully complete that. No wonder MSFT is fast approaching Knowledge Base Article KB1000000. GAUD! WHOLEY MOHOLY! I had to reboot about 5 times... now, where is that product I wanted to try?

And I'm CTO my own multi-national software company, with 30 years experience, know Ballmer personally, even stood him up once for a meeting. What the hell did I just go through? I feel like I was in a HellRaiser movie. Hooks everywhere!

64 Sharmuta  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:57:24pm

re: #60 BlueCanuck

It was on the Morphed thread.

65 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:58:29pm

Thanos is taking them to school over at Hot Air, posting under the nickname 'Tark'.

66 Rides a Pale Horse  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:58:41pm

I was thinkin' about our "boy king" and I recalled something that happened when I was taking drivers ed a LONG time ago.

I lived in a very small town in Northern Michigan and while taking our usual drive around town for drivers ed there was a dog that would chase the car everytime we would go out. One time, the instructor told me to let the dog chase us for a couple of blocks and then stop. I did so and the dog just sat down and stared at the car. The instructor said.........."Ok.......you got it, now what are you going to do with it?"

Stuck with me all these years when I hear about people that are elevated to positions they are uniquely UNqualified for.

Kinda reminds me of Barry.

67 turn  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:59:26pm

re: #59 jroberson

"She can touch your lobes but never your latinum" ha!

[Link: www.sjtrek.com...]

Man, some people have way too much time on their hands ...

68 Spar Kling  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 11:59:41pm

re: #15 Spiny Norman

Since the previous thread has gone way off topic, I'll post it here:

The creationism/ID supporters here at least try to present
a cogent argument (well, most of the time), but the pro-ID commenters
at Hot Air don't even bother even trying, it's just petty insults and ad hominems. It's hardly any different from a DKos thread. Sheesh.

I also hadn't noticed that "LGF is all Darwin, all the time" now, either...

Yep. When people get emotional about something, logic vanishes and the ad hominems begin to fly. This is true of the moonbats on the left and the dingbats on the right (see, I can do it, too).

Even in a coherent and polite argument about anything--politics, sports, science, religion, or business, what divides people is what they consider facts and what they consider significant.

Also complicating things is the cognitive dissonance that blinds us to things that we don't expect or don't want to see. And there's probably also a term given to the sloppy thinking that we tolerate when we agree with someone.

And not to mention rationalization . . . has anyone noticed that the media has not ever even breathed the words "tax evasion?" They only use words like "mistake" or "tax problem." Interesting.

-sk

69 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:01:29am

re: #60 BlueCanuck

re: #62 Sharmuta

go Charles!

70 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:01:32am

re: #68 Spar Kling

Democrats make 'mistakes'. Only Republicans evade taxes.

71 freetoken  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:01:57am

FYI, just posted a link in the spin-offs to the newly placed Youtube video of Blago on Letterman from last night.

Very good opening zingers from Letterman.

72 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:04:07am

re: #71 freetoken

Am watching it in Calif. right now. LOL I can't even understand how this asshat ever got elected. I have trouble even looking at him and when he talks it's all over.

73 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:04:17am

re: #71 freetoken

FYI, just posted a link in the spin-offs to the newly placed Youtube video of Blago on Letterman from last night.

Very good opening zingers from Letterman.

No sound here. WTF?

74 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:05:48am

re: #68 Spar Kling

Many of us are still waiting for those Intelligent Design paper links from you, yet you never deliver. Why is that?

75 jroberson  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:05:52am

re: #67 turn


I like this one, as it superficially fits O and the MSM.

236: You can't buy fate.

And for those that voted O:

218: Always know what you're buying

76 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:06:30am

re: #72 Pvt Bin Jammin

Where are you?

77 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:06:33am

re: #73 turn

Put on CBS if you are still in San Jose. I think he's still going to be on after the commercial.

78 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:07:30am

re: #76 turn

Altadena (Pasadena area). Wish I was up north and able to join you and Diana today.

79 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:07:48am

re: #74 Sharmuta

Maybe because he doesn't have them?

/something like a pink elephant or the mystical Unicorn.

80 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:08:08am

re: #75 jroberson

I like this one, as it superficially fits O and the MSM.

236: You can't buy fate.

And for those that voted O:

218: Always know what you're buying

See, you did find the parallels. Nice.

81 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:09:41am

re: #78 Pvt Bin Jammin

Me too. Man, I could have used more brainpower ;.)

82 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:11:12am

re: #74 Sharmuta

They are buried in a secret hiding place on Atlantis.

83 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:11:13am

re: #77 Pvt Bin Jammin

Can't multi-task tonight, I'll catch it tomorrow. Thanks.

84 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:12:18am

re: #71 freetoken

FYI, just posted a link in the spin-offs to the newly placed Youtube video of Blago on Letterman from last night.

Very good opening zingers from Letterman.

Letterman really rips him a new one and the lying asshole just smiles. He looks like a snake oil salesman. GET A FUCKING HAIR CUT.

85 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:14:21am

re: #70 MrPaulRevere

re: #74 Sharmuta

re: #79 BlueCanuck

Wow, is SK's karma all about the creation/evolution debates here?

86 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:14:39am

re: #81 turn

Me too. Man, I could have used more brainpower ;.)

LOL I probably wouldn't have been much help. I'm a blonde. I got my nic from Pvt. Benjamen (Goldie Hawn). LOL

It still would have been cool.

If you're ever down this way, Desert Sage, my hubby and I get together almost once a week. We had Revobob drive up here on Fri. nite.

87 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:15:12am

re: #84 Erik The Red

Just taking it off would be easier ...

88 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:16:11am

....and here I am glancing at King of the Hill re-runs instead of Blago.

Mike Judge is much kinder to Texas than Seth McFarlane.

89 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:16:29am

re: #85 turn

Yes.

90 jroberson  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:19:31am

re: #84 Erik The Red

Love her or hate her, Coulter's right. Liberals are all about playing the victim. Blago's just the latest Dem to play the victim card while victimizing the American electorate.

He's more than an asshole, he's a liberal Democrat.

91 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:19:44am

re: #86 Pvt Bin Jammin

Now I'm going to have to start calling you Goldie!
Thanks for the invite, I'll go back and get an idea of just where you are. Don't make it south very often, once in awhile. If you ever roll through Sac keep me in mind, I'll give you the 1/2 hr tour.

92 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:19:53am

Letterman is really giving Blago a hard time.

LOL Blago is going to continue to fight for all of us working stiffs.

93 freetoken  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:20:13am

re: #84 Erik The Red

"I'm the anti-Nixon" he asserts strongly....

/ROTFL

94 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:21:37am

re: #93 freetoken

"I'm the anti-Nixon" he asserts strongly....

/ROTFL

He's nuts, in a clever way.

95 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:25:53am
96 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:26:10am

Boy their drug dealing parents are going to be Pissed

97 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:26:57am

re: #91 turn

Will do. Haven't been to Sacramento for a long time but you never know my sister is in Reno...not that far. We are 20 min from downtown LA. Sage is and electrical contractor, my hubby is a plumbing contractor. We hang out at a place where the libs seem to go, but then again the libs hang out everywhere in a blue state. We need support. LOL

98 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:29:08am
99 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:29:19am

re: #10 zombie

I hope he reverts to smoking pot, and sloughing off responsibilities, and is removed from office as incompetent four months from now.

he could be removed as incompetent now.......

/just sayin %-)

100 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:29:56am

re: #96 Erik The Red

What's that sound I hear? The flush of someone's stash before the cop's interview them? ROFLMAO.

101 shiplord kirel  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:30:03am

re: #10 zombie

I hope he reverts to smoking pot, and sloughing off responsibilities, and is removed from office as incompetent four months from now.

Yikes! "President Joe Biden"
Pray for Obama's health, mental and otherwise.

102 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:30:39am

re: #86 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL I probably wouldn't have been much help. I'm a blonde. I got my nic from Pvt. Benjamen (Goldie Hawn). LOL

It still would have been cool.

If you're ever down this way, Desert Sage, my hubby and I get together almost once a week. We had Revobob drive up here on Fri. nite.

and yet you never venture west, even a bit.

/

103 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:34:18am

re: #102 redc1c4

LOL I haven't seen you make it to "our" valley either.

My hubby doesn't like to drive at night. He drives all day. One of these days we'll have to break down and come out there with you valley people. LOL

104 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:34:23am

re: #94 turn

He's trying to be Huey P Long, I guess.

105 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:34:24am

re: #97 Pvt Bin Jammin

Liberal watching, a pastime of mine. Took the turnwife to an open air farmer's market downtown last year (we live in Carmichael actually). Moonbat watching extraordinary. Been telling her about St. Pattycake for years, there was a moonbat who had a poster of her up in a booth and he was hawking Obama propaganda and such. The turnwife started to go ask the guy what the poster was all about and I had to turn her away. Needless to say exit stage left.

106 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:36:22am

Question Lizards. Why would the senate block the nomination of Daschle and Killefer and let Timothy Geithner go through?

"It's important for this administration to send a message that there aren't two sets of rules - you know, one for prominent people and one for ordinary folks who have to pay their taxes," Obama said in one of a series of interviews with TV anchors.

Tax Cheats

107 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:38:04am

re: #104 Fenway_Nation

He's trying to be Huey P Long, I guess.

There you smart lizards go again, making me go wiki stuff up again.

"God, don't let me die. I have so much left to do."

You know, I'm surpirsed Blago didn't co-opt that line.

108 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:39:13am

re: #105 turn

pancake turn, pancake!

109 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:39:14am

re: #103 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL I haven't seen you make it to "our" valley either.

My hubby doesn't like to drive at night. He drives all day. One of these days we'll have to break down and come out there with you valley people. LOL

it's not that pasa dena is so far, it's just that we don't get out much period.

i'm a good cook, and there's lots of wine in the rack.

spring is coming, perhaps we can set something up?

110 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:40:13am

re: #108 turn

Well pattycake fits too. After all most L3's are rather juvenile.

111 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:41:31am

re: #105 turn

Liberal watching, a pastime of mine.

Do not touch the liberals- you don't know where they've been.

Do not feed the liberals- they love free stuff and won't stop asking.

Do not taunt the liberals- all that 'peace and justice' bullshit they spout falls to the wayside when you challenge them on the real-world outcomes of some of their failed policies and states they'd like to see implemented here

112 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:41:37am

re: #106 Erik The Red

Question Lizards. Why would the senate block the nomination of Daschle and Killefer and let Timothy Geithner go through?

"It's important for this administration to send a message that there aren't two sets of rules - you know, one for prominent people and one for ordinary folks who have to pay their taxes," Obama said in one of a series of interviews with TV anchors.

My guess, and only a guess. Geithner only had taxes in the closet, the other two had that and way more.

Tax Cheats

113 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:42:06am

re: #106 Erik The Red

They gave Obama a mulligan re. Geithner. I'm thinking Daschle made many enemies during his time as a Democrat leader, not only among Republicans.

114 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:42:55am

Some people are born to be leaders (Reagan) and some are born to be senators (Obama). I just hope Obama grows into his new pay grade and SOON. I voted for McCain, but want Obama to do a good job. So hopefully he gets his ass back into the Oval Office and starts getting some stuff done.

He cannot become a deer in the headlights.

115 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:42:56am

re: #105 turn

Liberal watching, a pastime of mine. Took the turnwife to an open air farmer's market downtown last year (we live in Carmichael actually). Moonbat watching extraordinary. Been telling her about St. Pattycake for years, there was a moonbat who had a poster of her up in a booth and he was hawking Obama propaganda and such. The turnwife started to go ask the guy what the poster was all about and I had to turn her away. Needless to say exit stage left.

You have to come down to check out our resident barfly lib ( I might be the conservative barfly but who cares). I am 61. This guy is probably 67 but he's an old Berkeley graduate. He absolutely goes into contortions if we say anything, anything at all, but he constantly runs his mouth.

116 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:42:58am

re: #110 BlueCanuck

Well pattycake fits too. After all most L3's are rather juvenile.


Thanks for the save my friend up north.

117 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:43:03am

re: #106 Erik The Red

They wanted to see what they could get away with and what the threshold was until people got worked up...

118 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:43:47am

re: #106 Erik The Red

Question Lizards. Why would the senate block the nomination of Daschle and Killefer and let Timothy Geithner go through?

"It's important for this administration to send a message that there aren't two sets of rules - you know, one for prominent people and one for ordinary folks who have to pay their taxes," Obama said in one of a series of interviews with TV anchors.

Tax Cheats

Geithner will be manipulating interest rates and the money supply - nothing to do with taxes or personal integrity./

119 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:44:33am

re: #114 _RememberTonyC


He cannot become a deer in the headlights.

120 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:45:06am

re: #111 Fenway_Nation

Racist!
/

121 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:45:45am

re: #114 _RememberTonyC


He cannot become a deer in the headlights.

I'm hard-pressed to see any other outcome for the time-being.

122 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:46:18am

re: #114 _RememberTonyC

Some people are born to be leaders (Reagan) and some are born to be senators (Obama). I just hope Obama grows into his new pay grade and SOON. I voted for McCain, but want Obama to do a good job. So hopefully he gets his ass back into the Oval Office and starts getting some stuff done.

He cannot become a deer in the headlights.

"want" in one hand, shit in the other and let us know which one fills up first.

he won't "become a deer in the headlights" for two reasons:
1. he's already there
2. he's more a rabbit than a deer.

/or is that weasel?

123 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:46:41am

re: #115 Pvt Bin Jammin

Tell him to stick a cork in it, and give him another for the other orifice.

124 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:48:37am

re: #121 Fenway_Nation

I'm hard-pressed to see any other outcome for the time-being.

unless he grows up FAST ... and takes some good advice from one of his "team of rivals" members.

125 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:49:46am

re: #109 redc1c4

That sounds great. Let us know. Fun if you could stop by our funky restaurant too. Either way, we'll make a point of all getting together.

126 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:49:59am

re: #122 redc1c4

"want" in one hand, shit in the other and let us know which one fills up first.

he won't "become a deer in the headlights" for two reasons:
1. he's already there
2. he's more a rabbit than a deer.

/or is that weasel?

weasely wabbit?

127 jroberson  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:50:46am

re: #114 _RememberTonyC

No Lizard will ever suggest that the following statement is a form of eloquence to be emulated by the educated, so I'll just say it:

Fuck Obama.

128 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:50:55am

g'night all ...

129 winston06  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:51:07am

This is my 3,999th comment on LGF... ;-)

good night every one

130 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:51:16am

re: #107 turn

There you smart lizards go again, making me go wiki stuff up again.

"God, don't let me die. I have so much many $4000 an hour prostitutes left to do."

/Elliot Spitzer

131 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:51:17am

re: #127 jroberson

No Lizard will ever suggest that the following statement is a form of eloquence to be emulated by the educated, so I'll just say it:

Fuck Obama.

And the unicorn he rode in on?

132 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:51:49am

re: #128 _RememberTonyC


Night Tony! Go B's and C's....

133 jroberson  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:52:42am

Obama: the 'other' oval orifice in the Oval Office.

O, what have the voters done?

134 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:52:49am

re: #129 winston06


Not gonna stick around for #4000?

135 jroberson  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:53:19am

re: #131 Sharmuta

Yeah, but like they say about the bull, I hope he gets the horn.

136 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:53:34am

re: #115 Pvt Bin Jammin

You have to come down to check out our resident barfly lib ( I might be the conservative barfly but who cares). I am 61. This guy is probably 67 but he's an old Berkeley graduate. He absolutely goes into contortions if we say anything, anything at all, but he constantly runs his mouth.

that's it: i'm coming over to visit..... gonna need either HRH to drive me home or a couch though. %-)

/Scouts Out!

137 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:56:59am

re: #123 turn

Tell him to stick a cork in it, and give him another for the other orifice.

LOL You wouldn't believe this guy. We've probably known him for 25 years and I think he follows us from restaurant to restaurant. LOL Apparently, in his youth, he was drafted (horrors) and served with the USA. He knows that I belong to the Soldiers' Angels and adopt deployed personell. He actually brought me a bunch of USA/ patriotic stickers that he got from the American Legion or VFW or whomever, which I appreciated, but he put them in a "donate to the ACLU" envelope. I really did have to laugh at his lame joke but he is an asshole anyway.

138 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:57:06am

Whoa, it's 1 and turn need to get up early. Night all.

139 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:58:10am

Still very much in a beck mood here, so here's one co-written by the Beastie Boys

140 turn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:58:33am

re: #137 Pvt Bin Jammin

Aren't those moonbats so clever? Jeeze. G'nite Goldie.

141 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:58:36am

re: #131 Sharmuta

And the unicorn he rode in on? makes movies with.

/DADT!

142 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:58:58am

re: #129 winston06

This is my 3,999th comment on LGF... ;-)

good night every one

I think you are way ahead of me!

Nite. You are nice.

143 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:59:21am

re: #134 Fenway_Nation

Not gonna stick around for #4000?

be thankful it's gone.

144 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 12:59:50am

re: #139 Sharmuta

Crap! Here's the link the old fashioned way

145 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:00:36am

re: #142 Pvt Bin Jammin

I think you are way ahead of me!

Nite. You are nice.

s/he/it was showing their ass just the other night...... major league down dings....

/ID, iirc.

146 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:02:58am

re: #140 turn

Nite.

I am out of here too, lizards. Don't get this flu. I didn't get the flu shot and got the flu. 19 days now. For the last four days I felt like a human being but am still not completely out of the woods. Some of my friends got the shot and got it anyway.

Take care, lizards.

147 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:03:55am

re: #146 Pvt Bin Jammin

Nite.

I am out of here too, lizards. Don't get this flu. I didn't get the flu shot and got the flu. 19 days now. For the last four days I felt like a human being but am still not completely out of the woods. Some of my friends got the shot and got it anyway.

Take care, lizards.

zinc lozenges w*rk for you mortals.

i stick with scotch.

hope you're feeling better soon.

148 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:05:17am

re: #145 redc1c4

I saw that. NY Nana thinks he is cool and normally is okay so okay with me. Just a weird nite, I think. I am in to forgiving.

149 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:07:45am

re: #148 Pvt Bin Jammin

I saw that. NY Nana thinks he is cool and normally is okay so okay with me. Just a weird nite, I think. I am in to forgiving.

i will defer to you ladies for now, but will battle carry sabot, just in case.

lots of fluids, zinc lozenges, and plenty of rest.

/hasta!

150 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:14:33am

re: #149 redc1c4
Carry sabot, just in case.

Nite, Red. and the other lizards. Thank God I am feeling better.

Take care, all. I am out.

151 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:15:08am

This clip is just for you Sharmuta:

152 wiffersnapper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:17:57am

here here!

153 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:18:57am

A blonde and a brunette decided to rob a bank. They quickly devised a good plan and they put their plan to action.
The brunette drove up to the front of the bank that they had decided to rob. She turned to the blonde and asked her, "Now, do you remember what the plan is?" The blonde sighed and replied, "Yeah, yeah, I remember..." The brunette went over the plan once more and let the blonde out to do her stuff.

Before the blonde could shut the door, the brunette yelled out, "Be sure to be in and out in no more than 5 minutes!" The blonde ran inside and the brunette waited in the car... and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited. After waiting for so long in the car, the blonde bursts out of the bank's doors, the alarm blaring loud enough to wake everyone up. The blonde was lugging a bank safe behind her by a rope tied around it. A security guard ran out of the bank, his pants down around his ankles and attempting to reach his gun. The blonde breathed heavily as she tried to put the safe in the car but finally just gave up and dropped the safe behind. She ran into the passenger seat and pulled the door shut, the car already moving. The security guard yelled, "Stop! Stop!" while the pair drove off, leaving the safe with rope tied tightly around it behind. The brunette frantically asked the blonde, "What the hell happened in there?!?" The blonde was panting and turned to the brunette and choked out, "What do you mean? I followed the plan exactly!"

The brunette paused and yelled, "YOU IDIOT! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO TIE UP THE GUARD AND BLOW THE SAFE!"

154 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:20:24am

re: #151 MrPaulRevere

LOL!

155 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:20:35am

A man in Phoenix calls his son in New York the day before
Thanksgiving and says, "I hate to ruin your day, but I have
to tell you that your mother and I are divorcing; forty-five
years of misery is enough."

"Pop, what are you talking about?" the son screams.

"We can't stand the sight of each other any longer," the father
says. "We're sick of each other, and I'm sick of talking about
this, so you call your sister in Chicago and tell her."

Frantic, the son calls his sister, who explodes on the phone.
"Like hell they're getting divorced," she shouts, "I'll take
care of this," She calls Phoenix immediately, and screams at
her father, "You are NOT getting divorced. Don't do a single
thing until I get there. I'm calling my brother back, and we'll
both be there tomorrow. Until then, don't do a thing, DO YOU
HEAR ME?" and hangs up.

The old man hangs up his phone and turns to his wife. "Okay," he
says, "they're coming for Thanksgiving and paying their own way."

156 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:20:48am

Economic stimulus Zimbabwe style!

157 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:21:24am

A man and his wife were in a fancy resturant. While ordering, they noticed that the waiter had a spoon in his shirt pocket, and after looking around, they observed the other waiters and busboys each had a similar spoon. So the husband says, "what's with the spoon?"
The waiter said,"well, we had this company come in and evaluate our time management and they found that people drop their spoon 74.8% more often than any other utensil. So if we carry one with us, we can reduce the trips back to the kitchen by 3 hours per shift.
The husband was impressed. Sure enough, he dropped his spoon during dinner and the waiter replaced it with his, stating, "I'll just get another when I go to the kitchen for something else". While ordering dessert, the husband noted that the waiter had a very thin string hanging from the fly of his pants, as did the other waiters, so the husband asks, " hey, there's a string on your pants". The waiter tells him, " not all my customers are as observant as you... the same company found that we can reduce the amount of time spent in the bathroom by 2 hours each shift if we tie a string around the end of you-know-what, and when we have to go we just unzip and pull it out with the string completely eliminating the need to wash up and saving time." The husband was impressed, but asked, " it's a good idea but how do you get it back in your pants?".
The waiter leaned close and whispered, " well I don't know about the rest of them, but personally I use the spoon."

158 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:24:18am

re: #156 Fenway_Nation

Economic stimulus Zimbabwe style!

Zim is so fucked I am surprised the West even pays any attention to them. Until Mugabe is out of power or 6 feet under there is no solution. I am sure the despot has syphilis.

159 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:25:51am

Joey and Katie are sitting in school.

Katie is sleeping and the teacher asks her a question.

"Katie, who created Heaven and Earth?" Joey sees Katie sleeping and quickly pokes her with a sharp pencil.

"Jesus Christ almighty! !" Exclaimed Katie.

"Correct." Says the teacher.

So the next day the same incident occurs and the same question comes up "Who created Heaven and Earth?" Katie (Again sleeping) is poked by Joey's pencil "Jesus Christ almighty!" she exclaims.

"Correct again." Says the teacher.

So the next day, for a 3rd time, The teacher asks Katie "What did Eve say to Adam when she had so many children?"

Katie (again sleeping) is poked by Joey's pencil again, and screams "If you stick that thing in me one more time I am going to crack it in half!"

160 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:26:47am

Two deaf people get married. During the first week of marriage, they find that they are unable to communicate in the bedroom when they turn off the lights (because they can't see each other using sign language).

After several nights of fumbling around and misunderstandings, the wife proposes a solution. "Honey," she signs, "Why don't we agree on some simple signals? For instance, at night, if you want to have sex with me, reach over and squeeze my left breast one time. If you don't want to have sex, reach over and squeeze my right breast one time."

The husband thinks this is a great idea and signs back to his wife, "Great idea! Now if you want to have sex with ME, reach over and pull on my penis one time." "And if you don't want to have sex, reach over and pull on my penis... fifty times!"

161 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:33:03am

A married couple is driving down the interstate doing 55 mph. The husband is behind the wheel. His wife looks over at him and says, "Honey, I know we've been married for 15 years, but I want a divorce."
The husband says nothing but slowly increases the speed to 60 mph.

She then says, "I don't want you to try to talk me out of it because I've been having an affair with your best friend, and he's a better lover than you."

Again the husband stays quiet and just speeds up as his anger increases.

She says, "I want the house." Again the husband speeds up and he is now doing 70 mph.

She says, "I want the kids too." The husband just keeps driving faster and faster until he reaches 80 mph.

She says, "I want the car, the checking account and all the credit cards too." The husband slowly starts to veer toward a bridge overpass pillar, as she says, "Is there anything you want?"

The husband says, "No, I've got everything I need."

She asks, "What's that?"

The husband replies just before they hit the wall at 90 mph, "I've got the airbag!"

162 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:40:05am

One day while on patrol, a police officer pulled over a car for speeding. He went up to the car and asked the driver to roll down her window. The first thing he noticed, besides the nice red sports car, was how hot the driver was! Drop dead blonde, the works.

"I've pulled you over for speeding, Miss... Could I see your driver's license?"

"What's a license?" replied the blonde, instantly giving away the fact that she was as dumb as a stump.

"It's usually in your wallet" replied the officer.

After fumbling for a few minutes, the driver managed to find it.

"Now may I see your registration?" asked the cop.

"Registration... What's that?" asked the blonde.

"It's usually in your glove compartment..." said the cop impatiently. After some more fumbling, she found the registration.

"I'll be back in a minute." said the cop and walked back to his car. The officer phoned into the dispatch to run a check on the woman's license and registration.

After a few moments, the dispatcher came back; "Is this woman driving a red sports car?"

"Yes...." replied the officer

"Is she a drop dead gorgeous blonde?" asked the dispatcher

"Yes" replied the cop.

"Here's what you have to do..." Said the dispatcher. "Give her the stuff back, and drop your pants."

"What? I can't do that. It's inappropriate!" exclaimed the cop.

"Trust me... Just do it..." said the dispatcher.

So the cop goes back to the car, gives back the license and registration and drops his pants, just as the dispatcher said.

The blonde looks down and sighs "Oh no... Not ANOTHER breathalyzer!"

163 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:40:27am

re: #161 Erik The Red

having been through an airbag deployment at about 30-40MPH, i'll pass.

164 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:42:15am

re: #158 Erik The Red

Zim is so fucked I am surprised the West even pays any attention to them. Until Mugabe is out of power or 6 feet under there is no solution.

The two aren't mutually exclusive, y'know....

I am sure the despot has syphilis.

It's done in better driminals than him- Al capone comes to mind.

The people I feel sorry for the most are the workers in Zimbabwe's mines. Imagine toiling all day to extract gold, diamonds or platinum from the ground- the most valuable stuff that can be pulled up from the earth- and your reward is that worthless joke of a currency.

165 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:42:44am

Would be good on a ID thread

A little girl asked her mother, "How did the human race come about?"

The Mother answered, "God made Adam and Eve; they had children and, so all mankind was made."

A few days later, the little girl asked her father the same question. The father answered, "Many years ago there were monkeys, and we developed from them."

The confused girl returns to her mother and says, "Mom, how is it possible that you told me that the human race was created by God , and Papa says we developed from monkeys?"

The Mother answers, "Well, dear, it is very simple. I told you about the origin of my side of the family, and your father told you about his side."

166 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:45:49am

Two young boys walked into a pharmacy one day, picked out a box of tampons and proceeded to the checkout counter.

The man at the counter asked the older boy, "Son, how old are you?"

"Eight," the boy replied.

The man continued, "Do you know what these are used for?"

The boy replied, "Not exactly, but they aren't for me. They're for him. He's my brother. He's four. We saw on TV that if you use these, you would be able to swim and ride a bike. Right now, he can't do either one. "

167 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:47:06am

re: #165 Erik The Red

hearted, just so i can do that......

/white smoke

168 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:48:24am

re: #165 Erik The Red

It's been posted repeatedly on ID threads.

169 Panhandler  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:48:41am

re: #166 Erik The Red
So, when you return Stateside, what kind of night job are you looking for so you can keep the DT moving along?

170 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:49:40am

A man walk into a supermarket and notices a beautiful woman staring at him.

She stares for quite some time, so finally the man asked "Do I know you?"

The woman answers "I think your the father of one of my kids".

The man thinks for a minute then realizes this kid she is talking about must be the result of the one and only time he ever cheated on his wife.

So he says to the woman "are you the stripper that was at my best friends bachelor party about 5 years ago?" "You know, the one I had sex with on the pool table while your friend spanked my bare ass with a whip?"

The woman looks at him horrified and says "No, I'm your son's teacher".re: #169 Panhandler

171 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:51:34am

re: #169 Panhandler

So, when you return Stateside, what kind of night job are you looking for so you can keep the DT moving along?

I am going to have to meet a whole new group here. I do enjoy my sleep(when I can fall asleep). I will also have to post more serious stuff. The LNDT is great to just goof off when it is quiet.

172 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:53:07am

re: #169 Panhandler

So, when you return Stateside, what kind of night job are you looking for so you can keep the LNDT moving along?

FTFY!

173 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:53:45am

A 5-year-old boy went to visit his grandmother one day. Playing with
his toys in her bedroom while grandma was dusting, he looked up and
said,

"Grandma, how come you don't have a boyfriend now that Grandpa went to
heaven?"

Grandma replied, "Honey, my TV is my boyfriend. I can sit in my bedroom
and watch it all day long. The religious programs make me feel good and
the comedies make me laugh. I'm happy with my TV as my boyfriend."

Grandma turned on the TV, and the reception was terrible. She started
adjusting the knobs, trying to get the pic ture i n focus. Frustrated,
she
started hitting the backside of the TV hoping to fix the problem.

The little boy heard the doorbell ring, so he hurried to open the door,
and there stood Grandma's minister.

The minister said, "Hello, son, is your Grandma home?"

The little boy replied, "Yeah, she's in the bedroom bangin' her
boyfriend."

The minister fainted.

174 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:53:55am

re: #171 Erik The Red

I am going to have to meet a whole new group here. I do enjoy my sleep(when I can fall asleep). I will also have to post more serious stuff. The LNDT is great to just goof off when it is quiet.

it's a lot of fun when it's busy too..........

175 army green since '92  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:54:44am

A husband wakes up at home with a huge hangover. He forces himself to open his eyes, and the first thing he sees is a couple of aspirins and a glass of water on the side table. In the mirror he notices an ugly black eye. He sits down and sees his clothing in front of him, all clean and pressed. He looks around the room and sees that it is in perfect order, spotless, clean. He takes the aspirins and notices a note on the table.

"Honey, breakfast is on the table, I left early to go grocery shopping.
Love You!"

Totally shocked with the note , he goes to the kitchen and
sure enough there is a hot breakfast and the morning newspaper. The house is unusually clean, but the coffee table is missing. His son is also at the table, eating. He asks, "Son, what happened last night?"

His son says, "Well, you came home around 3 AM, drunk and delirious.
You fell on the coffee table and smashed it, puked in the hall, and gave yourself a black eye when you stumbled into the door". Confused, the man asks, "So, why is everything in order and so clean, and breakfast is on the table waiting for me? Isn't Mom angry?

His son replies, "Oh, that! Mom dragged you to the bedroom, and when she tried to take your clothes n shoes off, you yelled,

"LEAVE ME ALONE B!#CH! I'M MARRIED!"

176 Panhandler  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:54:58am

re: #172 redc1c4

FTFY!

Are there threads that aren't DTs?

177 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:56:01am

A Texas family of football supporters head out one Saturday to the outlet mall to do their tax-free back to school shopping. While in the sports shop the son picks up an Oklahoma jersey and says to his older sister, "I've decided to become a Sooner fan and I would like to wear this to school".

His big sister is outraged by this and promptly whacks him round the head and says, "Go talk to mother".

Off goes the little lad with the Oklahoma jersey in hand and finds his mother.

"Mom?"

"Yes son?"

"I've decided I'm going to be an Oklahoma fan and I would like to buy this jersey".

The mother is outraged at this, promptly whacks him around the head and says, "Go talk to your father!"

Off he goes with the Oklahoma Jersey in hand and finds his father.

"Dad?"

"Yes son?"

"I've decided I'm going to be an Oklahoma fan and I would like to buy this jersey".

The father is outraged and promptly whacks his son around the head and says, "No son of mine is ever going to be seen in THAT CRAP!"

About half an hour later they're all back in the car and heading towards home.

The father turns to his son and says "Son, I hope you've learned something today?"

The son says, "Yes, Dad, I have."

"Good son, what is it?"

To which the son replies, "I've only been a Oklahoma fan for an hour and I already hate you Texas bastards."

178 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:57:03am

BTW, Erik....can you think of any short-term investment opportunities in South Africa? I know the World Cup is coming up in a year and I'd imagine there'd still be a good deal of construction going on to improve capacity for traffic, international media and visitors in the cities that are hosting the matches....but the only publicly-traded South African companies that I know of here are gold mining companies...

179 BakaRanger  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:57:04am

I can see why PETA wants to rename fish "Sea Kittens"

180 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:58:22am

One night, a father passed by his son's room and heard his son praying: "God bless Mommy, Daddy, and Grandma. Ta ta, Grandpa."

The father didn't quite know what this meant, but was glad his son was praying. The next morning, they found Grandpa dead on the floor of a heart attack. The father reassured himself that it was just a coincidence, but was still a bit spooked.

The next night, he heard his son praying again: "God bless Mommy and Daddy. Ta ta, Grandma."

The father was worried, but decided to wait until morning. Sure enough, the next morning Grandma was on the floor, dead of a heart attack.

Really scared now, the father decided to wait outside his son's door the next night. And sure enough, the boy started to pray: "God bless Mommy. Ta ta, Daddy."

Now the father was crapping his pants. He stayed up all night, and went to the doctor's early the next day to make sure his health was fine. When he finally came home, his wife was waiting on the porch. She said, "Thank God you're here -- we could really use your help! We found milkman dead on our porch this morning!"

181 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:59:17am

For red's fruitcup, I present Morphine


182 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 1:59:49am

re: #177 Erik The Red

I told the version of that one where the family's from new York and the kid wants a Red Sox jersey.

183 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:00:15am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------->
Help yourselves!

184 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:00:32am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Thanks, {lol}!

185 Panhandler  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:00:51am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Yay!

186 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:01:26am

Good morning littleoldlady. Thanks for the fruitcup.

187 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:02:32am

Sharmuta! :-)

Panhandler! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

188 freetoken  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:03:09am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Just in time to go with my dinner of bean and cheese burrito...

189 Panhandler  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:04:13am

re: #188 freetoken

Just in time to go with my dinner of bean and cheese burrito...


Well, I surely hope you brought enough for everybody!

190 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:04:33am

freetoken! :-)

You're a better man than I , Gunga Din!

191 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:06:54am

re: #188 freetoken

I hope you're in a well ventilated area.

192 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:11:36am

re: #178 Fenway_Nation

BTW, Erik....can you think of any short-term investment opportunities in South Africa? I know the World Cup is coming up in a year and I'd imagine there'd still be a good deal of construction going on to improve capacity for traffic, international media and visitors in the cities that are hosting the matches....but the only publicly-traded South African companies that I know of here are gold mining companies...

I am no expert. The gov. has spent huge money on the infrastructure here. To much I think they will still be paying for it in 29 years time. The people who are benefiting are not the poor but big corp. Our markets are not stable atm just like the rest of the world. There are some listed construction companies look Here. Group Five,GRINDROD, are two that spring to mind. I am busy trying to get all my assets out. Our interest rates are at 15% so maybe bonds or banking for a good return.

Like I said I am not he best person to ask.

193 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:12:23am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thanks for fruitcup {lol}

194 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:13:55am

Erik! :-)

You joke machine, you! ;-)

195 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:16:47am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------->
Help yourselves!

it tastes funny................

196 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:16:49am

Little Johnny goes to school, and the teacher says, "Today we are going to learn multi-syllable words, class. Does anybody have an example of a multi-syllable word?"

Johnny says "Mas-tur-bate."

Miss Rogers smiles and says, "Wow, little Johnny, that's a mouthful."

Little Johnny says, "No, Miss Rogers, you're thinking of a blowjob."

197 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:19:28am

Littleoldlady provides the fruitcup- maybe I should provide some pizza!

198 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:20:27am
199 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:22:25am

red! :-)

Nu? Vuh den?

Fenway! :-)

Beats the heck out of a bean burrito!

Iron Fist! :-)

Don't give him any (more) ideas, PLEASE!

200 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:24:05am

Little Josh comes home from first grade and tells his father that they learned about the history of Valentine's Day.

"Since Valentine's Day is for a Christian saint and we're Jewish," he asks, "will God get mad at me for giving someone a valentine?"

His father thinks a bit, then says, "No, I don't think God would get mad. Who do you want to give a valentine to?"

"Osama bin Laden," David says.

"Why Osama bin Laden," his father asks in shock.

"Well," Josh says, "I thought that if a little American Jewish boy could have enough love to give Osama a valentine, he might start to think that maybe we're not all bad, and maybe start loving people a little bit. And if other kids saw what I did and sent valentines to Osama, he'd love everyone a lot. And then he'd start going all over the place to tell everyone how much he loved them and how he didn't hate anyone anymore."

His father's heart swells and he looks at his boy with newfound pride. "Josh, that's the most wonderful thing I've ever heard."

"I know," Josh says, "and once that gets him out in the open, the Marines could blow the shit out of him."

201 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:25:06am

It's the first day of kindergarten, and the teacher decides to do taste association. 'I'll blindfold you and give you a lifesaver, and you tell me what flavor it is,' she tells the children. So she gives them all a cherry flavor, and says, 'What flavor is that?'

The whole class answers 'Mmmm, that's cherry.'

'Very good,' the teacher replies. So she gives them all a grape and they reply, 'Mmm, that's grape.'

'Very good,' she says again.

Then she gives them all a honey flavor. The whole class sits perplexed by the strange taste, so the teacher says 'OK, I'll give you a hint, it's something your parents might call each other.'

Billy spits his out on the floor and yells, 'Spit 'em out everyone, they're ASSHOLES!'

202 redc1c4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:26:32am

re: #198 Iron Fist

That's the crystal meth :-)

that also might explain the flavor......... %-)

203 freetoken  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:26:41am

re: #189 Panhandler

Well, I surely hope you brought enough for everybody!

Alas for the lizards, unlike the perpetually beneficent LoL, I am a tightwad.

204 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:32:23am
205 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:35:02am

re: #204 Iron Fist

I've been up all night watching the snow.

/AS IF I could do anything about it! ;-)

Now I'm trying to calculate how much, if any, sleep I can get between now and the time the dog will wake me.

206 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:35:20am

12 years for terror leader Benbrika

FANATICAL Muslim cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika, who wanted to wage jihad by launching "terrible acts of violence", has been sentenced to at least 12 years in jail after becoming the first person in Australia convicted of leading a terrorist organisation.

Six of his young Muslim followers were also sentenced in the Victorian Supreme Court yesterday for their roles in the terror cell, receiving minimum jail terms of between 4 1/2 and 7 1/2 years.

The three years and two months the seven men have already served in jail while awaiting trial will be deducted from their sentences.

Good on the Aussies!

207 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:37:30am

re: #205 littleoldlady

*sigh* I have been watching it most of the night. Only started to pick up in volume over the past hour. Good news, sorta, my landlord asked me to start shoveling their walk and driveway. Seems the guy hired to do it has quit.

/extra money never hurt.

208 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:40:25am

re: #195 redc1c4

it tastes funny................

It's the other multi-colored meat.

Didn't your mother teach you about putting that stuff in your mouth?

Mornin folks...Lol :-) , red, fenway, free, IF, erik, Blue...all.

209 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:43:09am

aboo! :-) :-) :-)

/3! ;-)

210 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:43:22am

The Pentagon recently found it had too many generals and offered an early retirement bonus. They promised any general who retired straight away his full annual benefits plus $10,000 for every inch measured in a straight line between any two parts of the general's body, with the general getting to select any pair of points he wished.
The first man, an Air Force general, accepted. He asked the pension man to measure from the top of his head to the tip of his toes. Six feet. He walked out with a check of $720,000.
The second man, an Army general, asked them to measure from the tip of his outstretched hands to his toes. Eight feet. He walked out with a check for $960,000.
When the third general, a grizzled old Marine, was asked where to measure, he told the pension man ... "From the tip of my penis to the bottom of my testicles."
The pension man suggested that perhaps the Marine general might like to reconsider, pointing out the nice checks the previous two generals had received. The Marine insisted and the pension expert said that would be fine, but that he'd better get the medical officer to do the measuring.
The medical officer attended and asked the general to drop the pants. He did. The medical officer placed the tape on the tip of the general's penis and began to work back. "My God!" he said. "Where are your testicles?"
The general replied, "In Vietnam."

211 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:43:23am

Morning aboo, hows life? Find the perfect underpass yet?

212 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:47:19am

ROTFLMAO

A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost.
She lowered altitude and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."

The man consulted his portable GPS and Replied, "You're in a hot air balloon approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2346 feet above sea level.. You are 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude."

She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a Republican."

I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"

"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to make of your information, and I'm still lost.. Frankly, you've not been much help to me."

The man smiled and responded, "You must be a Democrat."

"I am," replied the balloonist. "How did you know?"

"Well," said the man, "you don't know where you are or where you're going. You've risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and you expect ME to solve your problem. You're in EXACTLY the same
position you were in before we met, but somehow, now it's MY fault."

213 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:49:57am

A son asks his father, "What can you tell me about politics? I have to learn about it for school tomorrow." The father thinks a little and says, "OK, son, the best way I can describe politics is to use an analogy. Let's say that I'm a capitalist because I'm the breadwinner. Your mother will be the government because she controls everything, our maid will be the working class because she works for us, you will be the people because you answer to us, and your baby brother will be the future. Does that help any?" The little boy said, "Well, Dad, I don't know, but I'll think about what you said."

Later that night, after everyone had gone to bed, the little boy was awaken by his baby brother's crying. Upon further investigation, he found a dirty diaper. So, he went down the hall to his parent's bedroom and found his father's side of the bed empty and his mother wouldn't wake up. Then he saw a light on in the guest room down the hall, and when he reached the door, he saw through the crack that his father was in bed with the maid. The son then turned and went back to bed.

The next morning, he said to his father at the breakfast table, "Dad, I think I understand politics much better now." "Excellent, my boy," he answered, "What have you learned?" The little boy thought for a minute and said, "I learned that capitalism is screwing the working class, government is sound asleep ignoring the people, and the future's full of crap."

214 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:50:25am

re: #211 BlueCanuck

Morning aboo, hows life? Find the perfect underpass yet?

Naw...gave up looking after seeing what Lol had found. ;)

215 Render  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:53:32am

Moscow

Kyrgyzstan to close U.S. base used to supply Afghanistan

===

Pakistan

Taliban sever NATO supply line through Pakistan's northwest

===

So, what was that about a Surge into Afghanistan again?

DIDN'T
THINK
SO,
R

216 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:55:55am

re: #215 Render

Did you get my email?

217 freetoken  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:56:43am

re: #215 Render

Moscow

Kyrgyzstan to close U.S. base used to supply Afghanistan

See the link in the spin-offs, from RiaNovosti. They don't bother to hide their beliefs that they (Russia) are the generous party (towards Kyrgyz) while the US are being the penny-pincher.

218 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:57:23am

re: #214 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

A little paint, an area rug and some throw cushions have really made the space homey!

/lemonade mode ;-)

FENG SHUI 'R US!

219 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:57:44am

re: #215 Render

Looks like more tests are coming due for Mr. Present. I hoped he's studied real hard for these ones.

220 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:59:17am

re: #215 Render

Moscow

Kyrgyzstan to close U.S. base used to supply Afghanistan

===

Pakistan

Taliban sever NATO supply line through Pakistan's northwest

===

So, what was that about a Surge into Afghanistan again?

DIDN'T
THINK
SO,
R

We
Are
So
Fucked.

Biden was wrong. Not within 6 months. Within 16 days.

221 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:01:10am

re: #219 BlueCanuck

Looks like more tests are coming due for Mr. Present. I hoped he's studied real hard for these ones.

Is he taking them Pass/Fail? How many points for just putting his name on the paper?

222 Claudia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:01:13am

Here's a fascinating short interview with an Arab man... one doesn't often hear these opinions from his ilk:
[Link: switch5.castup.net...]

223 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:02:56am

re: #221 littleoldlady

Well with the pass/fail requirement, it will be difficult to calculate. So far he's failing.

224 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:07:25am

re: #218 littleoldlady

Hey...you want to come visit work down here? Could use the help. Started rebuilding at Christmas(been totally wrapped-around-the-axle) and I think(haven't been to the beach or talked with my contractor this week) we're not only dried-in but the sheet-rock should be in.

Pretty soon it's gunna be time for paint and raiding the junk yards. ;)

225 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:10:05am

re: #224 aboo-Hoo-Hoo


Pretty soon it's gunna be time for paint and raiding the junk yards.

It just so happens that I'm a pro at both! :-)

226 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:12:51am

re: #220 Erik The Red

We
Are
So
Fucked.

Biden was wrong. Not within 6 months. Within 16 days.

What's the problem our US Nato commander has sent our allies pursuing transit possibilities through Iran? Good idear, huh?

227 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:54am

re: #225 littleoldlady

It just so happens that I'm a pro at both! :-)

Come'on down! The weather's been really pretty good.

228 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:15:32am

Morning all!
Rant #1: I give Obama credit. He manned up and admitted a mistake in his nominations. No buck passing.
Amerians are tolerant. Most Presidents get one chance to say "I goofed. " Barry took his ten days in. No wonder he had to get out of the White House yesterday.
Gonna be a long four years.

229 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:16:09am

Morning Lizards!

{lol}

230 Render  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:18:21am

re: #216 Sharmuta

Negative.

FIRE
AGAIN,
R

231 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:19:33am

re: #227 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Define "good".

/we've got about 6-8 inches of fresh snow here. :-(

{My Rove}! :-)

Every day I have a problem deciding whether to laugh or cry at all the Obamachinations. Sometimes I do both.

/I am really gonna NEED that "free" healthcare. AND SOON! :-/

rightside! :-)

232 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:19:36am

re: #230 Render

Incoming!

TAKE
TWO,
S

233 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:19:41am

re: #228 Jim in Virginia

Morning all!
Rant #1: I give Obama credit. He manned up and admitted a mistake in his nominations. No buck passing.
Amerians are tolerant. Most Presidents get one chance to say "I goofed. " Barry took his ten days in. No wonder he had to get out of the White House yesterday.
Gonna be a long four years.

When one runs on the promise of change, and telling everyone how bad the current President is, He should be given no slack when his only change is the Party in power and his choices for Cabinet posts have less honor and integrity than the guy he ripped on the campaign trail.

234 ThinkRight  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:21:29am

re: #221 littleoldlady

Is he taking them Pass/Fail? How many points for just putting his name on the paper?


Obama="Present"

235 Dekar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:22:39am

Kyrgyzstan under cyberattack

[Link: news.zdnet.com...]

236 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:26:01am
237 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:26:33am
238 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:26:41am

How soon til kanye west comes out and says obama hates white people after the disaster in KY?

239 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:27:15am

Good morning, Lizards.

240 akak  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:27:20am
Russia, Kyrgyzstan sign bilateral agreements
03.02.2009, 20.40
MOSCOW, February 3 (Itar-Tass) -- Russia and Kyrgyzstan signed agreements on Russian gratis assistance and a state loan to Kyrgyzstan, on the repayment of a part of the Kyrgyz state debt with property and the writing off the remaining part of the debt upon Tuesday negotiations of Presidents Dmitry Medvedev and Kurmanbek Bakiyev.
The Russian and Kyrgyz governments signed an agreement on the construction of the Kambarata hydropower plant. The presidents signed a memorandum on bilateral economic, credit and financial cooperation.
Russia will grant $2 billion worth of loans and $150 million financial aid to Kyrgyzstan, President Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday.
He said the money “would help stabilize the Kyrgyz budget and support key infrastructural projects, including those in hydropower.”
The loan is a confirmation to the alliance between Russia and Kyrgyzstan, he said. “It derives from the bilateral alliance. Things are not easy for the world, including Russia, but we still think it necessary to develop economic relations with Kyrgyzstan and to implement large investment projects, which will assist socioeconomic development of the region,” he said.
“The agreements will be fulfilled in the near future,” Medvedev said.
Russia and Kyrgyzstan signed agreements on Russian gratis assistance and a state loan to Kyrgyzstan, on the repayment of a part of the Kyrgyz state debt with property and the writing off the remaining part of the debt upon Tuesday negotiations of Presidents Dmitry Medvedev and Kurmanbek Bakiyev.
The Russian and Kyrgyz governments signed an agreement on the construction of the Kambarata hydropower plant. The presidents signed a memorandum on bilateral economic, credit and financial cooperation.
241 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:28:19am

re: #220 Erik The Red

We
Are
So
Fucked.

Biden was wrong. Not within 6 months. Within 16 days.

You might as well read this then.

242 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:29:07am

re: #238 rightside

How soon til kanye west comes out and says obama hates white people after the disaster in KY?

Not likely because Mr. West hates white people too.

243 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:29:30am

Good morning {goddess}.

244 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:29:32am

Render- I got your email, and replied. If you didn't get it, then just call me.

245 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:29:47am

Morning, {goddess}!

246 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:30:00am

re: #239 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

247 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:30:41am

re: #243 BlueCanuck

Good morning {goddess}.

re: #245 Sharmuta

Morning, {goddess}!

re: #246 rightside

{goddess}

Add me to the list. ;)

248 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:31:35am

re: #241 NYCHardhat

First page had me running for the Advil® bottle!

/ACK! :-( :-( :-(

'Morning, NYCHardhat! :-)

249 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:31:50am

Rant # 2: We must be in Bizarro world. The Beltway insiders and pundits are defending Tom Bleeping Dasche. "He's smart and evenhanded and he'd be a valuable policy advisor.. he made a simple mistake but he paid up... maybe we should reform the tax code if it so complicated that Daschle and Geithner can't understand it... ................"
1. He didn't report over $100,000 in income. He knew about it last August. He didn't pay up up until he was nominated to the Cabinet.
2. He left the Senate and made hundreds of thousands of dollars working for a health care company. They didn't pay him for his management expertise, they paid him for his access. He was a lobbyist for a special interest in Health Care. So Obama wanted him to be Secretary of Health and Human Services.

I'm sure he'd be a valuable policy advisor.
OK, rants over. (Successfully resisted the urge to type in bold and all caps....)

How is everyone today?

250 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:32:12am

goddess! :-)

You guyz got sno?

251 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:33:32am

re: #236 NYCHardhat

Irony.

They wanted the same rights let them now suffer like the rest of us. Take the good with the bad.

252 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:34:07am
253 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:34:23am

Ahmadinejad: Power comes with scientific capability Better Dying through Bullshit

Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the launching of data-processing an abacus directed satellite remarkably improved Iran’s scientific position in the world.

Lol...it has been/is cool in the mornings but the afternoon yesterday was beautiful - low 70's, I'm guessing. Weather's been mostly this way last 4 weeks. Hell, here in town we've pulled out windows and done major repairs over the last month(and I do mean major) - but now I'm so sick of contractors I wanna puke.

254 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:34:34am

re: #248 littleoldlady

First page had me running for the Advil® bottle!

/ACK! :-( :-( :-(

'Morning, NYCHardhat! :-)

Good morning dear. :)

255 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:35:51am

re: #239 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

{goddess} Morningre: #241 NYCHardhat

You might as well read this then.

Thanks a lot////

256 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:36:30am

re: #249 Jim in Virginia

Rant # 2: We must be in Bizarro world. The Beltway insiders and pundits are defending Tom Bleeping Dasche. "He's smart and evenhanded and he'd be a valuable policy advisor.. he made a simple mistake but he paid up... maybe we should reform the tax code if it so complicated that Daschle and Geithner can't understand it... ................"
1. He didn't report over $100,000 in income. He knew about it last August. He didn't pay up up until he was nominated to the Cabinet.
2. He left the Senate and made hundreds of thousands of dollars working for a health care company. They didn't pay him for his management expertise, they paid him for his access. He was a lobbyist for a special interest in Health Care. So Obama wanted him to be Secretary of Health and Human Services.

I'm sure he'd be a valuable policy advisor.
OK, rants over. (Successfully resisted the urge to type in bold and all caps....)

How is everyone today?

Truthfully? I am white hot pissed because people keep telling me to calm down about all of the current incidents. No one seems to care.

257 Render  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:37:03am

re: #244 Sharmuta

Got nothing.

LEMME
TRY
SOMETHING,
R

258 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:37:59am

re: #249 Jim in Virginia

Rant # 2: We must be in Bizarro world. The Beltway insiders and pundits are defending Tom Bleeping Dasche. "He's smart and evenhanded and he'd be a valuable policy advisor.. he made a simple mistake but he paid up... maybe we should reform the tax code if it so complicated that Daschle and Geithner can't understand it... ................"
1. He didn't report over $100,000 in income. He knew about it last August. He didn't pay up up until he was nominated to the Cabinet.
2. He left the Senate and made hundreds of thousands of dollars working for a health care company. They didn't pay him for his management expertise, they paid him for his access. He was a lobbyist for a special interest in Health Care. So Obama wanted him to be Secretary of Health and Human Services.

I'm sure he'd be a valuable policy advisor.
OK, rants over. (Successfully resisted the urge to type in bold and all caps....)

How is everyone today?

Morning Jiv. Go upthread a bit and get your blood pressure back under control start at #153

259 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:39:42am

{BlueCanuck}.

{Sharmuta}!

{rightside}

{NYCHardhat }

260 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:40:21am

re: #255 Erik The Red

{Erik the Red}

261 Render  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:41:49am

re: #244 Sharmuta

You'll have to call me. My phone memory got wiped a little over a month ago.

No idea what's up with the email. I'm receiving from all other sources.

FIDDLE
STICKS,
R

262 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:41:51am

Good morning to the well and royally screwed.

263 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:44:57am

re: #262 godfrey

Good morning to the well and royally screwed.

Or should that be Obamally screwed?

/fun times ahead folks, fun times ahead.

264 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:46:00am

re: #241 NYCHardhat

You might as well read this then.

Just finished the whole thing. You should put that in the links on top.
That article is truly scary. I have forwarded that to a few friends. On the left and right. Thanks again for putting the last load of shit on top of me today.///

265 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:47:05am

re: #262 godfrey

Good morning to the well and royally screwed.

See Here and read just how screwed we are.

266 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:47:54am

re: #264 Erik The Red

Just finished the whole thing. You should put that in the links on top.
That article is truly scary. I have forwarded that to a few friends. On the left and right. Thanks again for putting the last load of shit on top of me today.///

Its been done. Sorry about that. See my post at 256.

267 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:52:53am

re: #262 godfrey

My Man Godfrey! :-)

268 tappin52  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:55:53am

re: #222 Claudia

Here's a fascinating short interview with an Arab man... one doesn't often hear these opinions from his ilk:
[Link: switch5.castup.net...]

Thanks for that link, it is an excellent interview.

269 NYCHardhat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:58:30am

Good day all.

270 Dar ul Harbarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:00:40am
271 littleoldlady  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:00:45am

Time to shovel the S%#*T! :-(

Good day, ALL!™

272 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:03:00am

re: #269 NYCHardhat

Good day all.

Only now you say good morning after you go and ruin it for us////

273 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:03:28am

Got to run! Have a great day!

274 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:03:57am

Bye littleoldlady. See you tomorrow. And if you need any tips, ask me. Plenty of experience. Spent a summer on a hobby farm, pure manual labour. ;)

275 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:04:24am

Have a good one goddess.

276 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:04:27am

I'm confused... how can 2 million blacks get into Washington DC in sub zero temps in 1 day when 200,000 couldn't get out of New Orleans at 85 degrees with four days notice?

277 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:05:06am

re: #250 littleoldlady

goddess! :-)

You guyz got sno?

No new snow here. 25 this morning.

278 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:06:32am

Good morning.

The market looks to open higher as the futures are up fractionally, and the Nikkei went up 2.27% and the Hang Seng was up 2.25%.

When the Messiah was sworn in, I posted that he had 48 hours to make a clear statement on how he was going to fix the banking issues, or else the market was going to start having serious doubts about him.

Several weeks later, all we have are a bunch of tax cheats getting caught and one getting appointed anyway.

It is becoming more and more clear that this guy is an empty suit with little idea what to do about real problems.

279 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:08:04am

Just heard on the news that the historic Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago is on fire.
Flames can be seen shooting out of the roof. State Street is closed near Superior.

280 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:09:26am
281 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:10:54am

re: #276 rightside
I

'm confused... how can 2 million blacks get into Washington DC in sub zero temps in 1 day when 200,000 couldn't get out of New Orleans at 85 degrees with four days notice?

Simple, it was all Bush's fault.

I notice that Obama is getting no static from the MSM for Kentucky being without power for like, weeks from a storm.

282 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:12:27am

re: #279 3 wood

Just heard on the news that the historic Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago is on fire.
Flames can be seen shooting out of the roof. State Street is closed near Superior.

Thanks for letting us know. I pray no one inside was hurt and none of our brave firefighters are hurt putting it out!

283 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:13:11am

re: #280 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

You're darn tootin'. I would've been all over those people.

Good morning everybody!

I guess we can say that I am a better friend to the creatures of the earth than John Hodgman. Heh.

284 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:15:01am

re: #281 3 wood

See my #238.

285 gregg  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:18:58am

I remember last fall when Wells Fargo said they didn't need any TARP money, but the Fed forced them to take it. Now everyone is worked up over a Las Vegas junket for some of their employees, because they received TARP money. Classic.

286 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:20:02am

Just for the record, and I've never heard or seen any type or quote like this before, came to mind to me last Early Thursday morning...

"Barry Soetoro needs to be exciled back to Kenya, now. *Pat Pend."

quote/unquote

287 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:20:18am
288 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:21:27am

re: #285 gregg

How dare they infuse cash into the Vegas economy! That might even pay a few salaries in the entertainment business! They should be jailed!

289 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:22:22am

re: #287 monkeytime

decimated is such a racist word....*sigh

290 gregg  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:22:24am

re: #287 monkeytime

At least some good news.

U.S. Officials: Al-Qaida Leadership Cadre 'Decimated'

What? During the campaign, Obama told us that Al-Qaida was stronger than ever. Now they're decimated? Oh, I'm so confused...

292 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:23:13am

Anybody other than me think that lady had 8 babies implanted to get a TV show?

Messed up if you ask me.

293 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:23:24am

re: #287 monkeytime

Decimated is too tame. I would prefer to see the leadership massacared.

/decimated means one in ten. Not enough.

294 Dar ul Harbarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:23:52am
295 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:23:52am

re: #290 gregg

What? During the campaign, Obama told us that Al-Qaida was stronger than ever. Now they're decimated? Oh, I'm so confused...


Well - they were stronger then ever when Bush was President but now that Obama is President they are decimated.

/doubt this is needed

296 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:24:47am

....and all that placenta? Ishtar!

297 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:26:10am

May be against some peoples better judgment, but QUICK!
Turn to the Today Show! They're about to do a segment on ....

Wait for it....

Ready?....


SNUGGIES!

298 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:26:32am

re: #278 3 wood

Obama prides himself on his listening (oy). It's true that none knows everything, but what worries me is that O has little ability to pick good advisers. Frank Marshall, Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, and now all these squirrels.

299 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:27:45am

re: #298 godfrey

Obama prides himself on his listening (oy). It's true that none knows everything, but what worries me is that O has little ability to pick good advisers. Frank Marshall, Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, and now all these squirrels.

Yes, but his ability to pick advisors that meet his views and training is impeccable.

300 Render  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:27:48am

re: #294 Dar ul Harbarian

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

KEED
SPILLS,
R

301 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:28:37am

re: #284 rightside

That will happen the same time that the White House press corps asks this bumbling idiot of a spokesperson Robert Gibbs a hard question.

A republican administration would have gotten drawn a quartered yesterday after the double withdrawls. I thought the press corps was going to get down on their knees and shine Gibbs shoes.

I heard a clip of Andrea Mitchell announcing Daschle taking the walk, and she literally was on the verge of tears.

302 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:29:09am

President Obama to water down 'Buy American' plan after EU trade war threat

The EU can take it sideways for all I care

303 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:30:30am

re: #302 monkeytime

How about us north of your borders? Not to mention that whole NAFTA thing that both our nations signed. It's not just the rest of the world screaming bloody murder about that "stimulus" plan.

304 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:30:44am

re: #301 3 wood

That will happen the same time that the White House press corps asks this bumbling idiot of a spokesperson Robert Gibbs a hard question.

A republican administration would have gotten drawn a quartered yesterday after the double withdrawls. I thought the press corps was going to get down on their knees and shine Gibbs shoes.

I heard a clip of Andrea Mitchell announcing Daschle taking the walk, and she literally was on the verge of tears.

I know. They really put Daschle up on a cross. A maryter at the hands of the evil Republican party.

305 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:30:57am

re: #298 godfrey

Obama prides himself on his listening (oy). It's true that none knows everything, but what worries me is that O has little ability to pick good advisers. Frank Marshall, Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, and now all these squirrels.

The guy is becoming an obvious empty suit. He looks good reading prepared material from a prompter, that's it.

He should be a news caster.

306 Dar ul Harbarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:32:14am

re: #300 Render

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

KEED
SPILLS,
R

My research assistant seems to be falling down on the job.

307 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:32:57am

.....and the word for the day is,

"Hotshot"

308 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:33:40am

....over to you, Betty...

309 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:34:56am

re: #303 BlueCanuck

How about us north of your borders? Not to mention that whole NAFTA thing that both our nations signed. It's not just the rest of the world screaming bloody murder about that "stimulus" plan.

You are right. I guess I just had a "knee jerk" reaction to the EU telling us anything after all the money pour everywhere and get the universal "screw America" in return. I am reacting to a feeling of other nations not giving a damn about America's economy if it didn't effect theirs.

310 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:35:14am

re: #301 3 wood

Pathetic, isn't it? Even though I don't think the drive-bys will ever admit nobama is in over his head, should there be a country wide or global meltdown caused by him, they will certainly blame it on Bush and the republicans.

311 Sheldon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:36:30am

#6 tired already...
I think the "big boys" put him, (BHO) there for a pawn.

312 Neo_  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:39:21am
The Senate bill includes a tax break worth up to $246 million over 11 years for investors in bigger-budget movie projects that don't necessarily qualify for incentives currently. The provision is backed by firms like the Walt Disney Co., and the industry trade group the Motion Picture Association of America, according to aides and lobbyists.


Isn't time for Hollywood actors to do the "patriotic" thing and buck up with pay caps, just like those that "The One" thinks should be in the "stimulus" and "bad bank" bills for Wall Street ?

313 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:07am

A few weeks back, I saw that if Barry was to get hit, it'd come from the radical Muslim fringe.
For more than a couple reasons....just think about it.

he's an apostate firstly, and there would be such upheaval here because of the immediate racial unrest.

314 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:08am

re: #305 3 wood

He has his ideology ie socialist intentions. If we keep knocking out the people with actual skills, we can limit him. He brings nothing to the table but tactics maybe.

315 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:49am

From Timesonline, advice for profitable business owners in Britan. I especially like this line "...pointing out that the recession is due to the Americans, or the bankers, not.."

The rich can save the world, we should let them

316 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:41:45am

re: #313 claspur

Careful with that line of thought here. It will get you the stick. Just a friendly piece of advice to a newbie.

317 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:43:31am

re: #313 claspur

Careful there.

318 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:44:01am

re: #301 3 wood

That will happen the same time that the White House press corps asks this bumbling idiot of a spokesperson Robert Gibbs a hard question.

A republican administration would have gotten drawn a quartered yesterday after the double withdrawls. I thought the press corps was going to get down on their knees and shine Gibbs shoes.

I heard a clip of Andrea Mitchell announcing Daschle taking the walk, and she literally was on the verge of tears.

The only walk Daschle should be doing is the perp walk.

319 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:45:11am

re: #297 fat bastard vegetarian

Heck. They still haven't done it. I am wondering how many Snuggies have been sold. My guess is 4 million.

320 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:45:41am

Thanx Eric....I realize opinions can do major damage these days anymore.

I'll still stick with what I see, and say though...not to sound like a prick-there, you know.

321 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:47:47am

re: #312 Neo_

Isn't time for Hollywood actors to do the "patriotic" thing and buck up with pay caps, just like those that "The One" thinks should be in the "stimulus" and "bad bank" bills for Wall Street ?


Don't you know in liberal think, it's patriotic to tell others to pay taxes while not doing it yourself. Despite what the President said yesterday they do believe in the double standard for prominent people vs. average people.

322 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:48:04am

Have read this site for well over two years now, and have seen certain ppl in here get away with Murder almost, as-to what they say.....if you catch my drift? lol

323 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:48:26am

re: #320 claspur

'll still stick with what I see, and say though. fire away.

324 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:48:47am

re: #322 claspur

Have read this site for well over two years now, and have seen certain ppl in here get away with Murder almost, as-to what they say.....if you catch my drift? lol

Not really. You sound like you have a wee chip on your shoulder.

325 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:48:48am

re: #321 soxfan4life

326 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:50:25am

re: #324 monkeytime


327 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:51:03am

re: #324 monkeytime

Not really. You sound like you have a wee chip on your shoulder.

Let him/her learn the hard way.

328 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:51:25am

Snuggies now, NBC, Today Show!

329 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:52:40am

What a drag? can't post anymore because of Whuh?

330 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:53:45am

My chip got taken out 17 years ago, btw.... ;o)

331 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:54:18am

When you're in a hole, stop digging. And then stop yelling "Hey, I'm in hole."

332 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:54:46am

re: #330 claspur

If you don't get it? You don't get it. It's okay. Post away. Free country and all.

333 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:55:13am

Yeah, but.....lol

334 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:16am
335 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:39am

re: #329 claspur

What a drag? can't post anymore because of Whuh?

re: #330 claspur

My chip got taken out 17 years ago, btw.... ;o)

Why are you here claspur? Is it to add any value to the discussions/debates? Or are you here to piss us all off one by one? You did Walter yesterday and are you trying to piss another one off today. You got some friendly advice. Take it or not I don't care.

336 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:58:06am

You guys, stop pileing-on....won't give myself blisters patting myself on the back here, but I'm a pretty good guy, and my chip is gone, for a long time now....*sigh I just pay attention now.

337 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:00:20am

sounds like Erik has a chip on his shoulder? *snick

338 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:00:21am

re: #311 Sheldon

#6 tired already...
I think the "big boys" put him, (BHO) there for a pawn.

I hear that. He's a Weather Underground sock puppet.

339 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:01:36am

hmmmm google the name and it comes up as a huffington post member

340 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:02:01am

re: #334 phoenixgirl

DON'T GO DOWN IN THE BASEMENT!


LOL! Is he married? Does he make his wife live there too?

341 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:02:42am

The first time Unkie Walter ever addressed me btw, He was in Full-Old Man bee'yuch Mode.... what was up with that?

342 Bobblehead  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:03:09am

Scroll down and check out the cartoon on Lucianne's page. Funny and probably true.

343 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:03:19am

re: #337 claspur

sounds like Erik has a chip on his shoulder? *snick

Like I said fire away and enjoy your short stay here.

344 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:04:16am

come-on guys....stop dog-pileing me....that's never where my head is at.

345 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:05:18am

Read your past posts Erik....you are the problem.

346 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:06:06am

re: #345 claspur

Read your past posts Erik....you are the problem.

WTF are you talking about. Find them and quote them here.

347 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:06:53am

h/t Glenn:

“Nobody wants to repeal the Second Amendment, and nobody wants to keep you out of the deer woods, but wouldn’t it be nice if your children didn’t have to worry about being mowed down by an assault weapon when they turn the corner?”

Broken & declassified by the Clinton Decipher Mackchin; code name - Free Wee Willie: Start worrying, NOW!

348 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:06:59am
349 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:07:26am

You still trying to get me reacted-out of here, Erik? Grow-up dude.

350 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:07:27am

re: #345 claspur

Read your past posts Erik....you are the problem.

Erik a problem?
and down down down ding you go brotha.

351 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:08:00am
352 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:08:35am

goes silent till Erik goes away now.

353 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:08:56am

Come here come here come here come here. No, get away get away get away get away.
Need For Attention Syndrome.

354 Render  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:44am

[Link: blog.usni.org...]

[Link: blog.usni.org...]

FOD Detector Says:

"As a I commented sometime back, USNI runs a real risk of becoming Little Green Footballs Lite because some–not all-of its bloggers have a marked political vice professional bent."

===

[Link: blog.usni.org...]

FOD Detector Says:

"USNI owns it, moderator. You want to be Little Green Footballs v.2, so be it."

===

Render says...

FOD Detector meet Avanti, Avanti meet FOD Detector.

SPARKX,
R

355 yochanan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:19am

re: #287 monkeytime

At least some good news.

U.S. Officials: Al-Qaida Leadership Cadre 'Decimated'

NPR would never have printed this pre nov 4th

356 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:30am

re: #349 claspur

You still trying to get me reacted-out of here, Erik? Grow-up dude.

You are the one looking for a reaction out of us. Find and quote any comment of mine that show I have a problem. Until then.
GAZE.

357 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:59am

Some people show their GAZE worthiness easier than others.

358 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:19:45am

re: #310 rightside

Pathetic, isn't it? Even though I don't think the drive-bys will ever admit nobama is in over his head, should there be a country wide or global meltdown caused by him, they will certainly blame it on Bush and the republicans.

Very true.

The MSM is blaming the failure of his "stimulus" package in the Senate on the Republicans. Excuse me? He's got a clear majority in both houses. His own party is walking away from this pile of garbage.

359 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:20:44am

*WHACK*

360 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:21:53am

Gaze Worthiness....i get to smirk again. ;o)

For ppl that are so GD bright, you few at least, in here, are pretty rude.

What do You think, Chaz? ;o)

361 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:22:17am
362 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:22:22am

I ain't got time for this shit.

363 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:23:20am

So- is there a "Resign 0bama" petition yet?

364 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:23:43am

LOL {Mandy}

365 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:25:47am

re: #363 Sharmuta

So- is there a "Resign 0bama" petition yet?

He would work harder at getting names disqualified from that list than he does as POTUS.

366 irish rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:26:44am

It's way too early for barbequed buttocks, but it looks like we'll be having it as a side dish this morning.

Good morning, lizards.

367 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:27:09am

Mandy's in a huff....Boy, I'd like to see that Live. lol

368 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:28:00am

Toxic-Asset Guarantees Gain Momentum in U.S. Bank-Rescue Talks

Feb. 4 (Bloomberg) -- The Obama administration, aiming to overhaul the $700 billion financial-rescue program, is refocusing on an effort to guarantee illiquid assets against losses without taking them off banks’ balance sheets.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is skeptical of setting up a so-called bad bank to hold the toxic securities, an option that still may form part of the final package, people familiar with the matter said. Senator Charles Schumer yesterday said debt guarantees are becoming “a favorite choice” of options because a bad bank would be too costly.

The debate comes as some former officials warn against measures that stop short of stripping banks of the illiquid investments tied to mortgages and related securities. Government protection for $400 billion of Citigroup Inc. and Bank of America Corp. assets hasn’t sparked investor confidence in the firms’ viability.

They keep missing the point. None of this helps if they keep the "mark to market" valuation model.

Look at it this way. Let's say you were a bank and I come to you for a $200,000 mortgage. Let's further say I am a good credit risk with a solid job and high income. But with "mark to market" you could make the loan, I could make the payments without fail, and you could still take a capital hit in the loan if the real estate values drop. why would you make the loan under those circumstances? Odds are, you won't.

Therefore, it becomes a wicked circle where banks don't make the loans due tot he risk of dropping valuations, demand for real estate continues to drop, values of real estate then do drop, more people then go upside down on their loans and walk away from them thus forcing even more property onto the market to drive prices down even further.

These are 20 to 30 year deals we are talking about, most of which are good and will be paid off on time. So requiring them to be valued by the banks at the spot price is just silly and very damaging to the process.

369 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:28:19am

re: #366 irish rose

It's way too early for barbequed buttocks, but it looks like we'll be having it as a side dish this morning.

Good morning, lizards.

Morning irish

370 irish rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:28:37am

claspur

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371 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:28:56am

Morning all.
Snowy here in the Piedmont of NC. Even had a fire in the fireplace last night (just the second one in 18 months, so it's a big deal in my boring life) while watching the snow pile up on the windows. Very old-school New England.

Saw a headline this morning that said "Threat of EU trade war forces Obama to abandon "Buy U.S." program" or something like that.
Imagine what he'll give up when threatened with a REAL war.

372 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:29:00am
373 irish rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:29:05am

re: #369 Erik The Red

Morning irish

Good morning, Erik.

374 Crux Australis  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:29:30am

Meanwhile in Australia.

Kevin Rudd didn't get his way with the $A42 billion stimulus package. It's been referred to a Senate Inquiry. The Labor Party doesn't have a majority in the Australian Senate. Thank God.

375 eon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:30:59am

re: #358 3 wood

Very true.

The MSM is blaming the failure of his "stimulus" package in the Senate on the Republicans. Excuse me? He's got a clear majority in both houses. His own party is walking away from this pile of garbage.

Good morning, Lizards.

Very true, 3 wood, but there seems to be a serious dichotomy as to why. The 'mainstream" Dems in House and Senate (the Pelosi/Reid axis) are demanding more of what they consider "mainstream" dogma- earmarks, taxes, and all sorts of nifty add-ons to turn it into the cornucopia of social engineering so beloved of the Dems going back to Johnson's Great Society. There's no reason for a gun-control measure like HR 45 being incorporated into a stimulus bill, but I won't be surprised if it is. (Tacking such measures onto "must-pass" economic legislation has been a standard gambit since Schumer was a freshman, and I don't see them giving it up now.)

As for the "out of mainstream" (i.e., moderate/conservative Democrats), they're keeping their distance because they've both done the math and heard from their constituents. The numbers don't add up, and they've been told that a vote for this mega-crap-blockbuster-on-toast is a vote for their own recall.

I'm looking for Pelosi & Reid to come up with an Ultimate Final Revised Version with every liberal/left bell and whistle imaginable hung on it, and then call for a party-line vote in each house to pass it. Followed by handing it to The One with a demand for his signature.

My guess is, they won't get past the "vote" part. And if they push too hard, they might wake up the next morning no longer being Majority Leaders. Not because of the Republicans- because of their own caucuses.

/Just a guess.

cheers

eon

376 irish rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:31:44am

re: #374 Crux Australis

Meanwhile in Australia.

Kevin Rudd didn't get his way with the $A42 billion stimulus package. It's been referred to a Senate Inquiry. The Labor Party doesn't have a majority in the Australian Senate. Thank God.

Morning Crux, hows' the weather down under?

377 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:31:56am

ADP employment index finds 522,000 private-sector jobs lost

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The U.S. private sector shed 522,000 jobs in January, according to the ADP employment index, pointing to another hefty month of job losses when the government reports its payroll figures on Friday. The ADP index, compiled from anonymous payroll data, showed the goods-producing industries lost 243,000 jobs, while the service-producing industries lost 279,000 jobs. The ADP index covers only private-sector jobs, adding in some 10,000 government jobs created in a typical month, the report suggests nonfarm payrolls fell by about 510,000 in January. Economists now expect payrolls to fall by 525,000, the fifth straight month of at least 400,000 jobs lost.

Apparently the swearing in of the Messiah was not the be all and end all that the MSM thought it would be.

378 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:32:37am

Link to #371 story

If anyone cares.

379 onslow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:32:48am

Sorry if this has already been posted


The Impending Obama Meltdown (VDH)

380 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:34:05am

Hey, Rose! Nice to see you.

381 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:34:15am
382 abaleh  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:34:41am

re: #215 Render

Moscow

Kyrgyzstan to close U.S. base used to supply Afghanistan

===

Pakistan

Taliban sever NATO supply line through Pakistan's northwest

===

So, what was that about a Surge into Afghanistan again?

DIDN'T
THINK
SO,
R

There's always the friendly Iranian option.

383 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:35:29am

re: #370 irish rose

Delurking

Morning all

It actually had a positive Karma till it started mouthing off to Eric.

Relurking

384 irish rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:36:06am

G'morning, Sharm.

385 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:36:48am
386 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:36:56am

re: #370 irish rose

I have to wonder how much lower that karma would be if there hadn't been a bunch of dingups for just saying "I've hatched". One of the reasons I don't ding up hatchlings anymore- some are trolls.

387 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:37:17am

Obama Risks Flap on 'Buy American'

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama risked a backlash within his own party by criticizing "Buy American" provisions in the huge stimulus bill that would ensure that most of the big infrastructure money goes to U.S. suppliers.

The measures, highly popular among congressional Democrats and trade unions, have come under heavy criticism from U.S. trade partners, some of whom threatened this week to file legal actions against the U.S. if the measures become law.

Asked his views on the furor, President Obama said in separate television interviews Tuesday that he wanted to avoid any steps would "signal protectionism" or risk fueling trade tensions.

"I think that would be a mistake right now," he told ABC News. "That is a potential source of trade wars that we can't afford at a time when trade is sinking all across the globe."

A White House spokesman couldn't be reached immediately to explain Mr. Obama's remarks.

The "Buy American" uproar comes as an early and difficult challenge for the new administration as it tries to navigate between intense domestic and international pressures. By siding with its trade partners in Europe and Asia, the administration could antagonize key allies in Congress as it struggles to win passage of a nearly $900 billion economic-recovery package.

The fight over whether to impose supplier restrictions within the stimulus legislation began last week, after the House passed a bill that would require the use of U.S.-made iron and steel in all public-works projects. The Senate is now debating a potentially larger stimulus package that contains far more restrictive procurement language, saying that "all manufactured goods" used in public-works projects would have to come from U.S. suppliers.

Protectionist trade strategies work only as long as you are the only country that can do it. But if your trading partners can respond in kind, you actually shrink your economy due to your ability to exploit what economists call "comparative advantage", i.e., you trade your surplus items to somebody else for their different surplus items and you both enjoy a growing standard of living that way.

388 Crux Australis  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:39:10am

re: #376 irish rose

Morning Crux, hows' the weather down under?

Hot! Hot! Hot! It's been over 90F max for the last 5 or 6 days. But a colder change is due next Tuesday dropping max temperatures to below 70F.

389 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:39:21am

re: #381 taxfreekiller

522,000 jobs lost

140,000 illegals incoming

Jan. 2009

Hey tfk, I'm hearing anecdotal stuff about illegals actually going back to Mexico lately cause they can't find work here either.

You hearing anything one way or the other on that?

390 JonathanD  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:40:13am

Al Gore gave hours of testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee without ever mentioning that he is a partner in Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers and an employee and was hawking one of their projects to the commitee.

It not shocking news to discover that “recovering” politicians often lobby their former colleagues. This show about Gore’s testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is just an example.

This week I spent a several hours listening to the first hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee of the current congressional session. Former Vice President Al Gore, the founder of an organization called Alliance for Climate Protection was the only witness during the 2 hour and 50 minute hearing. Watching that hearing, no one would ever know that the former VP is also a partner in Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers a Silicon Valley venture capital firm with significant financial interests in the very topic of conversation - non-nuclear alternatives to fossil fuel energy power production.

Atomic Show 125

391 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:40:25am

re: #383 Bubblehead II

Delurking

Morning all

It actually had a positive Karma till it started mouthing off to Eric.

Relurking


It must be having a bad hair day.

Is this a little boy, or a little girl? I like to know which anatomical parts are present, so that I can tailor my insults appropriately.

392 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:40:33am
393 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:41:59am

re: #388 Crux Australis

Hot! Hot! Hot! It's been over 90F max for the last 5 or 6 days. But a colder change is due next Tuesday dropping max temperatures to below 70F.

I wanna be where you are, I'm freezing my ass off in Michigan ;).

394 songbird  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:42:16am

re: #367 claspur

Being a Smart A** does not get you far, hatchling.

395 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:42:40am

re: #392 taxfreekiller

Now be on the alert for Obama cheating.

Its all he knows, its how he got to where he is, he is in a corner, he will cheat to get out of this..

Be alert.

Or start campaigning for his next job.

396 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:43:28am
Generally speaking, I think it is fair to say that I am a friend to the creatures of the earth when I am not busy eating them or wearing them.

I am SO Pro aerial killing of wolves after that assahat Judd had to open her dumbass yapper.

397 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:43:31am

re: #395 soxfan4life

Is it too early to start talking impeachement?

398 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:43:56am

re: #355 yochanan

Yochanan, Writer Mom was talking about this politician in Israel.

Just read this story
[Link: www.israelnews.net...]

What is the deal, is it true or is this just sour grapes and political dirty tricks, Israeli style?

399 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:44:18am

re: #379 onslow

Sorry if this has already been posted

The Impending Obama Meltdown (VDH)

VDH nails it again...what is worrisome is that he may be understating the degree of the problem - the runaway train or china syndrome.

400 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:44:37am
401 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:44:41am

re: #397 Irish Rose

Is it too early to start talking impeachement?

Should have started once he signed the executive order to close GITMO.

402 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:45:01am

re: #397 Irish Rose

Is it too early to start talking impeachement?

just a bit early, but lets start anyway to beat the Christmas Rush.

403 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:45:18am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Bitterly cold this morning with icy winds from the NNW but there's plenty of sinshine and it will be much warmer by the time the weekend rolls around.

&#9834 Spring &#9834 is just around the corner ....

*happy dance*

404 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:46:16am

re: #388 Crux Australis

Hot! Hot! Hot! It's been over 90F max for the last 5 or 6 days. But a colder change is due next Tuesday dropping max temperatures to below 70F.

Mandy? May I borrow your whacking stick, pretty please? :P

405 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:46:57am
406 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:47:33am

Time Warner Earnings to Be Little Changed This Year on Job Cuts

Sounds good, right? But when you get a couple paragraphs in (past the point where most people read), you find this:

Time Warner reported a $16 billion loss in the fourth quarter, its first in 14 quarters. The loss of $4.47 a share compares with net income of $1.03 billion, or 28 cents, a year ago. Sales fell to $12.3 billion, compared with the $12.8 billion average of 14 analysts’ estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

Excluding some items, profit of 23 cents a share missed the 26-cent average of 17 analysts’ estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

Oh no!.

Another MSM moonbat factory having problems.

407 songbird  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:48:49am

re: #397 Irish Rose

Is it too early to start talking impeachement?

We'd have deal with Biden and then impeach him too. After that we can whack Pelosi out!

That's not a bad idea.

408 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:49:49am

re: #400 taxfreekiller

Thanks for the insights.

You had more valuable info in 4 sentences than the MSM would have in 2 pages.

409 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:49:54am

re: #403 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Bitterly cold this morning with icy winds from the NNW but there's plenty of sinshine and it will be much warmer by the time the weekend rolls around.

♪ Spring ♪ is just around the corner ....

*happy dance*

................please take your happy dancing elsewhere.

17 degrees, another 5 inches of Gorbul Warming on ground, winds around 15-25 mph. Forecast is for temps around 5 tonight. Please, no happy dancing, unless that dancing leads to warm weather.

410 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:50:44am

re: #403 Miss Trixie

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Bitterly cold this morning with icy winds from the NNW but there's plenty of sinshine and it will be much warmer by the time the weekend rolls around.

&#9834 Spring &#9834 is just around the corner ....

*happy dance*

You need a refill ;).

411 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:52:02am

re: #407 songbird

Too early for impeachment. But if VDH (#379) is right (I happen to find his view a tad sanguine and rushed), then Obama might just want to step down on his own.

412 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:52:07am

I believe that I can speak for many of us here when I say,

F*CK WINTER!

413 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:54:56am

re: #412 Irish Rose

I believe that I can speak for many of us here when I say,

F*CK WINTER!

..................to quote retired Boston Fire Commissioner, Leo Stapleton,

"Snow is for skiing; Keep it in New Hampshire, and Vermont.

414 Crux Australis  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:56:20am

re: #412 Irish Rose

I believe that I can speak for many of us here when I say,

F*CK WINTER!

I think I'll be saying that come July or August.

415 eon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:57:14am

re: #413 smokefire

..................to quote retired Boston Fire Commissioner, Leo Stapleton,

"Snow is for skiing; Keep it in New Hampshire, and Vermont.

And Aspen, Colorado.

They can come and get Ohio's anytime, AFAIC.

Well, I have to run.

Have a great day, and stay warm, Lizards.

cheers

eon

416 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:57:21am

re: #412 Irish Rose

I believe that I can speak for many of us here when I say,

F*CK WINTER!

Perhaps your new avatar? :D

417 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:58:22am

re: #416 Miss Trixie

LMAO!

418 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:58:32am

re: #416 Miss Trixie

ding ding ding..................WE HAVE A WINNER.

419 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:58:38am

re: #391 Irish Rose


Irish, I've red you over the months too...you are a hoot. :o)

I don't lurk on ppl, I swear on that... I simply don't.

A few got on a rag on me this morning....you know, I really don't care why either.

I'm failing to understand why so many ppl in here, right off the bat, hate my guts?

I'll figure it out, eventually, on my own, I'm sure.

Sure am not kidding about reading this site over the last few yarn, and I do know some roomies tendancies of life in here. lol

Benn reminded here of that old Andy 'O Mayberry episode, when that guy comes into town-knowing everyones' business, and freaks everyone out. *sigh

I don't wanna be pissing anyone off in here...I love this site, and will continue reading it, regardless on my future status on posting anything in here.

420 Scion9  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:58:46am

re: #411 Lincolntf

If Obama wound up getting booted out of office, or stepped down willingly I think it would be absolutely catastrophic. I can't stand the guy, but so much was wrapped up in his election in regards to race relations, and messianic well wishing that if didn't serve at least one full term the country would melt down. Not to mention the guy who would take his place is the one guy who ran for President that received the least votes of any candidate from his Party.

421 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:58:50am

re: #413 smokefire

..................to quote retired Boston Fire Commissioner, Leo Stapleton,

"Snow is for skiing; Keep it in New Hampshire, and Vermont.

“Too bad Lassie didn't know how to ice skate, because then if she was in Holland on vacation in winter and someone said "Lassie, go skate for help," she could do it.”

Jack Handy

422 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:59:41am

re: #416 Miss Trixie

Upding for that.

423 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:00:36am

re: #413 smokefire

We just got another foot here last night... just fed tha Sparrows tho...

424 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:01:25am
425 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:01:33am

re: #409 smokefire

................please take your happy dancing elsewhere.

17 degrees, another 5 inches of Gorbul Warming on ground, winds around 15-25 mph. Forecast is for temps around 5 tonight. Please, no happy dancing, unless that dancing leads to warm weather.

If I don't do a happy dance I'll not thaw out until July and I'd have to use my nose to type. :P

Here, it's -4F and with the windchil factored in it's -24F. I detest winter and generally become a Canucksicle but I must try to stay positive with visions of my pretty little summer flower garden dancing in my head.

Otherwise I'd lose my mind.

No need to be so grumpy - perhaps some Urinated Cranky Flakes is just the ticket for you? Just ask LittleOldLady - she's ALWAYS got some on hand. :D

426 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:01:35am

re: #419 claspur

How old are you?

427 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:02:40am

re: #425 Miss Trixie

Gorebull lmao

428 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:02:49am

re: #420 Scion9

P-P-President biden? *shudders*

429 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:03:34am

is that a trick question, Irish? lol

430 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:03:41am

re: #425 Miss Trixie

OK, I just got done doing first night shift, so I am cranky. Need my nap, then will be tip top.

Dance all you want Trixie

431 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:04:06am

re: #422 Bubblehead II

Upding for that.

Thanks! I wanted to use that for my avatar but chose the one I have now instead.

432 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:05:29am

re: #431 Miss Trixie

Calvin and Hobbs fan?

433 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:05:44am

re: #425 Miss Trixie

If I don't I must try to stay positive with visions of my pretty little summer flower garden dancing in my head.

Otherwise I'd lose my mind.

The seed catalogs help with that.
I have a whole basket full of them to sort through this weekend.

Not sure what I'm going to order, but I enjoy planning the gardens out in my head.

434 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:05:49am

re: #428 rightside

You got that right, Sarg....*sigh

435 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:06:30am

re: #430 smokefire

OK, I just got done doing first night shift, so I am cranky. Need my nap, then will be tip top.

Dance all you want Trixie

I commiserate - I hated night shift too. :)

436 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:06:52am

re: #428 rightside

P-P-President biden? *shudders*

As bad as that sounds it beats the hell out of Madame President Nancy Pelosi.

437 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:07:07am

re: #432 Bubblehead II

Calvin and Hobbs fan?

OH! You KNOW it! LOL!

438 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:07:26am

Morning all!

Pass the coffee, please!

439 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:07:57am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}re: #431 Miss Trixie

Thanks! I wanted to use that for my avatar but chose the one I have now instead.

Your avatar - is that a crowd of Ottawa residents waiting for public transport? :-)


G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

440 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:08:01am

re: #438 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning all!

Pass the coffee, please!

Donut?

441 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:08:12am

re: #438 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning all!

Pass the coffee, please!

“Feed a cold; starve a fever”...

442 3 wood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:08:23am

Democrat: Obama Team 'Encouraged' Defiance of Pelosi on Stimulus

Rep. Jim Cooper, a conservative Democrat from Tennessee, told a liberal radio network on Monday that the Obama White House encouraged him to defy House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on the $819 billion economic stimulus bill.

"Well, I probably shouldn't tell you this, but I actually got some quiet encouragement from the Obama folks for what I'm doing," said Cooper, one of only 11 Democrats to vote against the economic stimulus plan that passed the House last week.

"They know it's a messy bill and they wanted a clean bill," he said. "Now, I got in terrible trouble with our leadership because they don't care what's in the bill, they just want it to pass and they want it to be unanimous."

Cooper, whose startling admission came on Liberadio, was one of about 55 House Democrats to sign a letter criticizing Pelosi for suspending debate and committee rules on the fiscal package, politico.com reported.

"They don't mind the partisan fighting cause that's what they are used to. In fact, they're really good at it -- and they're a little bit worried about what a post-partisan future might look like," Cooper said during the radio interview. "If members actually had to read the bills and figure out whether they are any good or not. We're just told how to vote. We're treated like mushrooms most of the time."

An early supporter of President Obama, Cooper is a member of the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Coalition of Democrats.

So why was Obama on TV urging immediate passage of this bill, bad-mouthing the economy and claiming that the world was going to end of we did not approve this immediately?

Anybody else out there get the feeling that these people have no clue what they are doing?

443 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:08:30am

re: #433 Irish Rose

The seed catalogs help with that.
I have a whole basket full of them to sort through this weekend.

Not sure what I'm going to order, but I enjoy planning the gardens out in my head.

You must post pics when you're done - vegetable and/or flower?

444 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:08:32am

re: #440 Irish Rose

Donut?

Love one... got any filled ones?

445 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:08:48am

re: #435 Miss Trixie

............1 down 2 more to go, then off for 3, then 3 day shifts, and then 3 off. This schedule has it's positives, but with every positive there are negatives.

446 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:08:52am

re: #441 Dustyvet

“Feed a cold; starve a fever”...

OK....

447 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:09:58am

re: #439 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}


Your avatar - is that a crowd of Ottawa residents waiting for public transport? :-)


G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

HAH! Smartypants! Hiya, toots! :D

The strike is finally over and it's just a matter of getting the buses road-ready, thawed out and coordinated.

51 days. Yeesh.

448 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:10:00am

re: #446 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

OK....

"Feed a colt, starve a beaver"...:)

449 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:10:24am

re: #436 soxfan4life

That's too tough for me. Both are equally clueless, inept, and feckless!

450 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:10:33am

re: #442 3 wood

Democrat: Obama Team 'Encouraged' Defiance of Pelosi on Stimulus

So why was Obama on TV urging immediate passage of this bill, bad-mouthing the economy and claiming that the world was going to end of we did not approve this immediately?

Anybody else out there get the feeling that these people have no clue what they are doing?

They don't. But the run up the crisis flag is an Alinsky trick (gets the masses to beg you to do the thing you wanted to do in the first place).

That's Obama falling back on original code. He's the dog that caught the car but doesn't know what to do now.

451 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:11:05am

Stimulus Debate: Democrats "Do Not Have The Votes"

Media reports suggest Senate Republicans have become a key focus of stimulus talks, an acknowledgement that they appear to hold the balance of power in that chamber despite having only 41 seats to the Democrats' 58. The Washington Post reports on the front page that Senate Democratic leaders "conceded yesterday that they do not have the votes to pass the stimulus bill as currently written and said that to gain bipartisan support, they will seek to cut provisions that would not provide an immediate boost to the economy." Moderate Republicans are "trying to trim the bill by as much as $200 billion."

The Hill reports President Obama is "lobbying Republican senators personally on his economic stimulus package, which failed to attract a single GOP vote in the House." Obama has "scheduled one-on-one meetings at the White House with a handful of GOP centrists" such as Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins.

The CBS Evening News reported, "All sides "now agree the President's stimulus bill won't survive its original form, passed last week by House Democrats. A bill that, depending on how you see it, would create three million jobs, or serve to fulfill a long wish list of a Democratic social agenda."

(h/t Instapundit)

452 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:11:12am

re: #420 Scion9

Yeah, I'm no fan of interrupted Presidencies, either. It's laughably premature to discuss anything like impeachment, so I assume everyone had their tongues firmly planted in their cheeks when it was brought up.

453 Randall Gross  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:11:47am

A word of warning to Lizards abroad. The State of Israel issued a terror warning Sunday night, specifying Hezbollah. It specifically warned to take precautions against kidnapping, and it was just sent out in my companie's email. Normally they don't send those out, so there is specific intel. Vary your routes if you are working abroad, don't visit strangers with enticing offers, be careful after dark, etc. Also be reminded that Baitullah Mehsud has issued some threats as well, and an American citizen was captured in Pakistan the other day. Be especially wary if you are in the Sub-continent as well.

454 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:11:58am

re: #439 aussiemagpie

Hey Aussie!

455 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:12:27am

re: #448 Dustyvet

"Feed a colt, starve a beaver"...:)

Have something against beaver, there buddy?

456 reine.de.tout  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:13:09am

re: #438 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning all!

Pass the coffee, please!

Is this what you need?

457 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:13:11am

aussie - see my #416. :D

458 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:13:20am

re: #455 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Have something against beaver, there buddy?

Umm no...I got the flu...:(

459 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:13:50am

re: #452 Lincolntf

Yeah, I'm no fan of interrupted Presidencies, either. It's laughably premature to discuss anything like impeachment, so I assume everyone had their tongues firmly planted in their cheeks when it was brought up.

Sheer idiocy and incompetence isn't a basis for impeachment.

/That would be the founders laughing their asses off at our foolishness.

460 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:13:50am

re: #445 smokefire

............1 down 2 more to go, then off for 3, then 3 day shifts, and then 3 off. This schedule has it's positives, but with every positive there are negatives.

Yikes! Can you divulge what kind of work you do?

461 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:14:31am

re: #456 reine.de.tout

Is this what you need?

That'll help, but the pot is almost empty...

462 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:14:57am

re: #458 Dustyvet

Umm no...I got the flu...:(

Oh, otay... get better soon... how bad?

463 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:15:03am

re: #458 Dustyvet

Try Golden Ginger Ale, has to be Golden Ginger Ale, heated, with a bit of whiskey added. Takes away the chill.

It works.

464 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:15:20am

Later Lizards see you in a few hours.

For those that are interested I just got a phone call. Closed on the business and the buyer has been accepted by the franchisor. Take over 1st of May. Should be back in the US by mid June. W00t.

Round of drinks for all.

465 christheprofessor  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:15:23am

Good morning, all...

Well, for the second time in 15 days, we've got heavy Global Warming falling here on coastal NC. My dog is loving it...

466 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:15:41am

re: #437 Miss Trixie

He definitely "made" some weird ones.

467 UFO TOFU  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:15:56am

re: #445 smokefire

but with every positive there are negatives.


Every silver lining has a cloud?

468 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:15:57am

re: #460 Miss Trixie

firefighter, what else............smokefire Check avatar.

469 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:17:39am

Obama damage Tote Board

Well lets see, Daschle nailed on Taxes, Blagovich Trying to sell Obama's Seat, Obama bad mouthing the US on Al-Jazzera (his first TV interview), Ron Sims responsable for the one of the largest Violations of Publuc Records in US History, Chris Dodd's mortgage disclosure issues with Countrywide, The utterly rediculous 'stimulus bill' which kinda like trying to get out of Debt by Maxing out your Credit Card, Richardson, Killefer, 12 lobbyists appointed to various positions with-in the administration (great, more lawyers in a country Glutted and hamstrung by them), and reversal of campaign positions on such as 'rendition'.


Can we say successful con job, children? And the President has stated he's already 'tired of the White House' and slagged off to read a book with kids Iran launches a ICBM and North Korea is preparing for same, and the Russian Bear Awakes.


Gonna Be a Long 4 Years. My prediction: The current President is setting the ground work for a conservative revival not seen since Reagan.

470 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:17:48am

re: #447 Miss Trixie

HAH! Smartypants! Hiya, toots! :D

The strike is finally over and it's just a matter of getting the buses road-ready, thawed out and coordinated.

51 days. Yeesh.


Hi {darls}

Good to hear the strike is over! No more middle of the night treks to work then for you :-)

471 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:18:42am

re: #466 Bubblehead II

He definitely "made" some weird ones.

Those are my favorites - thankey!

CtP - long time no see. How are you and Lightning? Can't view your avatar without being annoyingly re-directed to the main page so I have no idea what it is.

472 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:18:51am

re: #469 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Obama damage Tote Board

Well lets see, Daschle nailed on Taxes, Blagovich Trying to sell Obama's Seat, Obama bad mouthing the US on Al-Jazzera (his first TV interview), Ron Sims responsable for the one of the largest Violations of Publuc Records in US History, Chris Dodd's mortgage disclosure issues with Countrywide, The utterly rediculous 'stimulus bill' which kinda like trying to get out of Debt by Maxing out your Credit Card, Richardson, Killefer, 12 lobbyists appointed to various positions with-in the administration (great, more lawyers in a country Glutted and hamstrung by them), and reversal of campaign positions on such as 'rendition'.

Can we say successful con job, children? And the President has stated he's already 'tired of the White House' and slagged off to read a book with kids Iran launches a ICBM and North Korea is preparing for same, and the Russian Bear Awakes.

Gonna Be a Long 4 Years. My prediction: The current President is setting the ground work for a conservative revival not seen since Reagan.

Your doing a Helluvajob Barry.

473 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:20:48am

re: #447 Miss Trixie

HAH! Smartypants! Hiya, toots! :D

The strike is finally over and it's just a matter of getting the buses road-ready, thawed out and coordinated.

51 days. Yeesh.

51 days, that's it? Here in Vegas, there was a strike by workers at the Frontier Hotel & Casino in 1991. They finally settled for far less than they were originally asking for . . . in 1997!

474 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:20:59am

re: #462 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Oh, otay... get better soon... how bad?

At the moment, I want to crawl back in bed, under about 8 blankets, and don't mention food...:P

475 christheprofessor  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:21:30am

re: #471 Miss Trixie

Those are my favorites - thankey!

CtP - long time no see. How are you and Lightning? Can't view your avatar without being annoyingly re-directed to the main page so I have no idea what it is.

We are well, thanks, and you? My avatar is of Lightning sitting on the ground with me (head cropped, of course) crouched behind her... Not sure why you are being redirected to the home page. After I post this, I'll click on it and see where I go...

476 claspur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:21:52am

re: #472 smokefire


ain't Barry a hoot? lol

The once was a guy named Cleatus... *sigh

477 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:22:41am

re: #454 rightside

Hey Aussie!

Hi there , it's a lovely warm night here in my part of Sydney - so peaceful with just the sound of all the airconditioners humming away, trucks speeding down the nearby motorway, kitties fighting, and snoring coming from the bedroom.....another peaceful night...

478 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:23:04am

re: #443 Miss Trixie

You must post pics when you're done - vegetable and/or flower?


Both.
I love the heirloom varieties, and I start my own from seed.

I grow flats of flowers and veggies down in the basement, under full spectrum lights, and I use a space heater to warm the room where I have them growing. I've already finished prepping my flats, and my seed orders are going in this weekend.

Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds is one of my favorite seed houses. The owners are liberals, but I overlook it because they have the best of the best when it comes to heirloom seed stock.

They have three varieties of Iraqi heirloom tomatos in their catalog this year. I'm going to try one, "Ninevah" (Mosul).

479 christheprofessor  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:23:29am

re: #471 Miss Trixie

It works fine for me. I had a similar problem a while back when I hit "reply" or "quote."

Try refreshing the thread, then click my avatar. That seemed to work with the problem I had been having.

480 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:23:48am

re: #474 Dustyvet

Dusty I'm telling you, Heated Golden Ginger Ale, bit of whiskey, and you'll feel better. Who needs Nyquill?

481 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:24:29am

re: #457 Miss Trixie

aussie - see my #416. :D

That's just wonderfully creative!

482 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:24:30am

re: #480 smokefire

Dusty I'm telling you, Heated Golden Ginger Ale, bit of whiskey, and you'll feel better. Who needs Nyquill?

:) sounds great...

483 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:25:05am

re: #466 Bubblehead II

He definitely "made" some weird ones.

Very cool compilation!

484 Rednek  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:25:44am

Maybe we should rename the nation The Eunuch States of America"

Report: Obama Pursues Deal With Russia to Slash Nuclear Weapons

485 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:26:04am

re: #483 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Very cool compilation!

The Village idiot resides in the White House..

486 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:26:07am

re: #464 Erik The Red

Later Lizards see you in a few hours.

For those that are interested I just got a phone call. Closed on the business and the buyer has been accepted by the franchisor. Take over 1st of May. Should be back in the US by mid June. W00t.

Round of drinks for all.

Great news Erik!

487 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:26:13am

re: #473 gmsc

51 days, that's it? Here in Vegas, there was a strike by workers at the Frontier Hotel & Casino in 1991. They finally settled for far less than they were originally asking for . . . in 1997!

*snicker*

Karma's a b****.

You must understand that the union struck just before Christmas, leaving elderly and infirm folks with no way to get to their docs, in the dead of winter with enormous amount of snowfall. Their callous decision to do so has seriously flattened a lot of small businesses who relied on the Christmas rush to stay in the black and because there's a lot of peeps who can't afford a vehicle, never mind parking and maintenance, they were not able to get to work. So - no job = no paycheque. No paycheque = no bills paid or chilluns properly fed.

They've seriously angered a LOT of Ottawans.

488 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:26:20am

From Instapundit:

OH, GOODY: 40% of Japanese investors think there is a risk of a US default. “There are other reasons to worry about US debt, like the downturn, the dollar, and our entitlement problems. But when the citizens of a country with a debt-to-GDP ratio of 1 and more than a decade of economic stagnation behind them start complaining that you’re not such a good credit risk, it’s time to start worrying.”

489 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:26:23am

re: #474 Dustyvet

At the moment, I want to crawl back in bed, under about 8 blankets, and don't mention food...:P

Then you should... sweat it out.

490 UFO TOFU  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:27:03am

re: #478 Irish Rose

Do you mind if I ask what part of the country you're in, and your favorite variety of tomato?

491 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:27:32am

re: #465 christheprofessor

Good morning, all...

Well, for the second time in 15 days, we've got heavy Global Warming falling here on coastal NC. My dog is loving it...

Hi {ctp} Good to see you!

492 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:28:21am

Nuts. IHTGBTWN. :(

Later, lizards.

493 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:28:30am

re: #482 Dustyvet
Dusty,
Try a Sports Margarita...
Lemon Lime Gatorade (for the electrolytes) and Tequila!
Knocked my bug on it's ass in one night!
Cheers!
Oh ...taken with two aspirin!

494 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:28:47am

re: #482 Dustyvet

Old remedy from my late mother.

But then again, she use to give me paragoric, to keep me quiet, too.

495 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:29:05am

heya Aussie :)

496 christheprofessor  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:29:21am

re: #491 aussiemagpie

Hi {ctp} Good to see you!

Howdy. Good to see you as well....

Well, the snow has almost stopped. I'm gonna take the pup to the park before it melts (it's 34 degrees F out there)...

BBIAB

497 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:30:02am

re: #489 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Then you should... sweat it out.

Sweatin Oldies! :P

Last post - couldn't resist ...

498 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:31:51am

Good morning y'all - from a frigid (19 degrees now, 17 when I woke up, going ALL the way UP to 39 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte! We had about 2-3 inches of snow overnight or it would have been colder here in the SOUTHLAND.
I swear I'm gonna write to the N.C. Chamber of Commerce, Board of Tourism and complain about this weather here in the heart of DIXIE!
Wind chill is 8 degrees for those dumb enough to go outside or who's jobs require that they go outside.

How is everyone today? Now that my mini-rant is over, I feel fine!

499 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:32:38am

re: #495 Jewels (AKA Julian)

heya Aussie :)

{Jewels} Good to see you too :-)

It's curry weather in a few months....I hope you put your recipes in the LGF cookbook!

500 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:32:45am

re: #485 Dustyvet

.............and here is another one.

Theraflu, vodka, a squeeze of lemon, honey to taste, and crushed up mentholiptus cough drop.

There you go.

501 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:33:22am

re: #498 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a frigid (19 degrees now, 17 when I woke up, going ALL the way UP to 39 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte! We had about 2-3 inches of snow overnight or it would have been colder here in the SOUTHLAND.
I swear I'm gonna write to the N.C. Chamber of Commerce, Board of Tourism and complain about this weather here in the heart of DIXIE!
Wind chill is 8 degrees for those dumb enough to go outside or who's jobs require that they go outside.

How is everyone today? Now that my mini-rant is over, I feel fine!

Was 4, now 7, here.

Freezing my nay-nays off, but otherwise quite well. Thanks for asking.

This Gorebull Warming is damn cold.

502 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:34:00am

re: #500 smokefire
Reading that brought tears to my eyes!
Bet it works tho...

503 Miss Trixie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:34:26am

{realwest} Morning luv *smoochie-smooch* Hope you are well today and my best to your mom. For a chuckle, please see my #416.

Gotta run - later darls.

504 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:34:34am

Good Morning Lizard Nation....

Been down with a cold/flu/bronch funk since Sunday. As my 20 something friends would say, I am miz.

What have I missed? :~)

505 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:35:03am

re: #490 UFO TOFU

Do you mind if I ask what part of the country you're in, and your favorite variety of tomato?


I live in Michigan.
My favorite heirloom tomato variety is Brandywine, hands down.

506 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:35:14am

re: #502 reloadingisnotahobby

choice of other spirits is optional.

507 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:35:38am

Like the say in Arizona in the heat.....
But,It's a dry cold!

508 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:36:00am

re: #474 Dustyvet

At the moment, I want to crawl back in bed, under about 8 blankets, and don't mention food...:P

I feel your pain. So solly.

I haven't been able to get warm, either. You should see the getup I am wearing at work right now.

509 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:36:20am

re: #504 loppyd

You missed my flu remedy. Check comment #500, and call me in the morning, or when you wake up.

510 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:36:45am

re: #498 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a frigid (19 degrees now, 17 when I woke up, going ALL the way UP to 39 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte! We had about 2-3 inches of snow overnight or it would have been colder here in the SOUTHLAND.
I swear I'm gonna write to the N.C. Chamber of Commerce, Board of Tourism and complain about this weather here in the heart of DIXIE!
Wind chill is 8 degrees for those dumb enough to go outside or who's jobs require that they go outside.

How is everyone today? Now that my mini-rant is over, I feel fine!

*Smooch* both cheeks as Miss Trixie's gone back to work :-)

I'd be mini ranting too if it ever got that cold here :-)

511 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:36:53am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It's frigid here, and it makes me wonder if hell has frozen over, given that the UN now admits that Hamas had been stealing humanitarian aid.

The UNRWA has been making excuses for Palestinian terrorists for years on end. I don't think it's going to stop anytime soon, but UNRWA is on notice that their lies will no longer be tolerated. They can't as easily cover for the terrorists as in years past.

It's well past time that the UN shut down the UNRWA and shift responsibility to the UNHCR, which handles millions more people on a fraction of the budget and which actually facilitates the turning of refugees into actual residents. UNRWA facilitates a permanent Palestinian terror class.

512 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:37:35am

re: #508 loppyd

I feel your pain. So solly.

I haven't been able to get warm, either. You should see the getup I am wearing at work right now.

What color is your Snuggie?

513 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:37:49am

re: #501 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT! That's why they stopped calling it Global Warming and started calling it Climate Change!
Did anyone out here mention yet that Obama plans to limit top compensation of executives at companies that take Fed money from here on, to $500,000 a year?
Workers and minimum wage would not be affected, however.

514 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:37:57am

Here's a thought to cheer up some people. The 59 year old owner of the Red Sox (who looks a bit like Montgomery Burns to my untrained eye) is getting married...

to her...The rich get richer

515 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:38:18am

re: #509 smokefire

You missed my flu remedy. Check comment #500, and call me in the morning, or when you wake up.

Not to sound ungrateful, but menthol anything makes me gag as do most cough syrups.

Whaa whaa whaa

516 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:39:26am

re: #514 Lincolntf

.............John Henry is trying again. Hope she likes baseball and NASCAR.

517 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:39:38am

re: #503 {Miss Trixie}
Hey gorgeous! *smooch* back to ya, but wouldn't it be easier to drive or take a train or bus than to run to work?!?

518 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:39:58am

re: #514 Lincolntf

Wow! Hottie alert!
With brains too!

519 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:40:21am

re: #512 Spenser (with an S)

What color is your Snuggie?

LOL Is that the friar tuck fleece blanket thing that is advertised on TV?

520 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:40:25am

At the moment I'm having a stare down with the cat, and the question is:

Who gets to medicate who!

521 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:41:18am

re: #515 loppyd

Loppy with what else is in that, you'll never notice the cough drop.

Then of course you can try Golden Ginger Ale [Polar of course, Worcester's finest], bit of whiskey, and heat it up.

522 UFO TOFU  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:41:31am

re: #505 Irish Rose

Thanks. Your link to that seed company had some interesting varieties.

523 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:41:44am

re: #513 realwest

Hey LT! That's why they stopped calling it Global Warming and started calling it Climate Change!
Did anyone out here mention yet that Obama plans to limit top compensation of executives at companies that take Fed money from here on, to $500,000 a year?
Workers and minimum wage would not be affected, however.

They can call it whatever they like, but all their horror stories are based in increasing temps by that catastrophic 0.6 deg C.

They don't get to change their theory's name, but not substance, when the experiment shows data opposite what it predicts.

$500,000? That's what they get for begging for Fed money, idiots... it will eventually come with a max profit percentage, too.

524 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:42:07am
525 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:42:20am

re: #521 smokefire

Loppy with what else is in that, you'll never notice the cough drop.

Then of course you can try Golden Ginger Ale [Polar of course, Worcester's finest], bit of whiskey, and heat it up.

Pronounced Polah. :)

526 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:42:21am

re: #519 loppyd

LOL Is that the friar tuck fleece blanket thing that is advertised on TV?

527 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:42:25am

re: #504 loppyd
Hey {loppyd} Sorry to hear your miz - a good looking woman like you shouldn't be miz at all!
Have y'all called the doctor - just in case you need antibiotics to protect against pneumonia?
Otherwise LOTS of Vita C, D and Zinc and HOT beverages - no alcohol!
And plenty of bed rest!

528 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:42:28am

re: #520 Dustyvet

At the moment I'm having a stare down with the cat, and the question is:

Who gets to medicate who!

Cage Match!

529 CAD Daddy  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:42:34am

Don't miss the "Naked Obama Unicorn-A-Rama" from the links. Funny + creepy.

530 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:42:38am

re: #520 Dustyvet

You were gone for a bit, was wondering if you were mixing up the remedy I sent you.
Comment #500.

531 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:43:07am

re: #525 loppyd

LOPPAH!

532 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:43:18am

BO continues to get hammered...his cabinet picks, his spendout bill is tanking, his juvenile foreign no policy, his arrogance and his work ethic.....whew...

if there is a GOP revival it might be on the back of governor Sanford of S Carolina...I like the guy and finally here's an interview...he's the real deal conservative...imo
[Link: www.wistv.com...]

533 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:43:22am

re: #507 reloadingisnotahobby No, it ain't a dry cold HERE - we had 2-3 inches of "Dry" snow overnight!

534 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:43:24am

re: #526 Dustyvet

Maybe you should have bought that Snuggie...

535 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:43:25am

re: #530 smokefire

You were gone for a bit, was wondering if you were mixing up the remedy I sent you.
Comment #500.

Working on it...:)

536 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:43:58am

re: #525 loppyd

OK, Polah. When you get bette, we can try to steal the bear off the roof.

Yeah, we'll really get away with that too.

LOL

537 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:44:00am

re: #511 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It's frigid here, and it makes me wonder if hell has frozen over, given that the UN now admits that Hamas had been stealing humanitarian aid.

Hell has frozen over, but it's expected to warm back up by the end of the week.

That reminds of this story:

Dr. Schambaugh, of the University of Oklahoma School of Chemical Engineering, Final Exam question for May of 1997. Dr. Schambaugh is known for asking questions such as, "why do airplanes fly?" on his final exams. His one and only final exam question in May 1997 for his Momentum, Heat and Mass Transfer II class was: "Is hell exothermic or endothermic? Support your answer with proof."

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following:

"First, We postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some mass. If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are souls leaving? I think we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it will not leave.

Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for souls entering hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, then you will go to hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and souls go to hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in hell to increase exponentially.

Now, we look at the rate of change in volume in hell. Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant. Two options exist:

1. If hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in hell will increase until all hell breaks loose.

2. If hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over.

So which is it? If we accept the quote given to me by Theresa Manyan during Freshman year, "that it will be a cold night in hell before I sleep with you" and take into account the fact that I still have NOT succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then Option 2 cannot be true...Thus, hell is exothermic."

The student, Tim Graham, got the only A.

538 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:44:08am

re: #467 UFO TOFU

LOL. I hate wet blankets.

539 bloodnok  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:44:30am

re: #504 loppyd

Good Morning Lizard Nation....

Been down with a cold/flu/bronch funk since Sunday. As my 20 something friends would say, I am miz.

What have I missed? :~)

Awwww. Feel better, okay? (That exhausts my supply of medical advice).

540 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:44:30am

re: #508 loppyd
YOU'RE AT WORK?!? WHADDYA CRAZY? Next thing you know you'll be telling us your a Patriots fan or somesuch!
/

541 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:45:24am

Informality Excess: Obama Replacing 'Hail to the Chief' With Sting's 'Desert Rose'

"He's not a 'Pomp and Circumstance' kind of guy," says press secretary Robert Gibbs of the new president.

To many Americans, this excessive informality suggests a real distaste for "official" or "patriotic" music, not to mention the Marine band that plays it.

Obama to America: I'm just not that into you.

Are you're curious what the Algerian singer Cheb Mani sings in Arabic in Desert Rose?


Oh night oh night
It's been too long
That I've been looking for my loved one
That I've been looking for my loved one
That I've been looking for my loved one
Peace peace
You have my life
No one other than you
No one other than you
My night, oh night
542 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:45:55am

re: #510 aussiemagpie
Hey {Maggie} thanks for the *smooches* for about three seconds I was almost warm! LOL!
And I do NOT want to hear what a beautiful summer day you're gonna be having!

543 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:46:24am

re: #527 {realwest}

Hey {loppyd} Sorry to hear your miz - a good looking woman like you shouldn't be miz at all!
Have y'all called the doctor - just in case you need antibiotics to protect against pneumonia?
Otherwise LOTS of Vita C, D and Zinc and HOT beverages - no alcohol!
And plenty of bed rest!

Good Morning handsome!

Thanks for the concern. I haven't called the doc....at work now hoping to make it to early afternoon. Been guzzling OJ, drinking lots of tea and have been taking Vitamin C as well.

The BF has it ten times worse than me.

544 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:46:44am

re: #513 realwest

Hey LT! That's why they stopped calling it Global Warming and started calling it Climate Change!
Did anyone out here mention yet that Obama plans to limit top compensation of executives at companies that take Fed money from here on, to $500,000 a year?
Workers and minimum wage would not be affected, however.

Yeah, I saw that this morning.

Sounds like a nice populist thing to do, but when they can't attract decent senior management with that, some of those companies will spiral into the ground and the government will then have an excuse to nationalize them.

This is a bad road to start down...

545 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:46:48am

A snuggie ...

546 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:46:54am

re: #522 UFO TOFU

re: #505 Irish Rose

Thanks. Your link to that seed company had some interesting varieties.

Yes, I sent a link home too, especially since we are latitudinal neighbors :) My wife is a city girl and a clean freak, but the sight of a shovel of turned-over dirt reminds her that there is a God.

547 nonic  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:46:59am

Get your clubs out, folks.

Headline: Pope Thinks Women Should Not Go to College or Wear Trousers
[Link: www.bild.de...]

Oh, no, wait. That’s just what’s been attributed to Wacky Williamson.

Well, so what. Blame the Church, anyway. Fire the Pope. Liquidate Vatican treasures.

But, seriously, folks.

The problem IS that there are very few dogmas that one MUST believe in order to be a Catholic. I’ll have to look this up, but I think it’s like, the Trinity, the Resurrection, maybe the Virgin Birth, probably a couple others.

Nowhere in the club membership contract (since that’s what people seem to think is involved) does it say you HAVE to subscribe to approved political or historical opinions.

And NO, Williamson is NOT a bishop of the Church. He's a schismatic (separate sect) who is leading would-be Catholics astray --- which is part of what the Pope is trying to fix.

This is getting more and more interesting….. amusing…. pathetic.

548 rightside  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:47:25am

re: #519 loppyd

Just put your robe on backwards, same thing!

549 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:48:00am

re: #511 lawhawk
Hi lawhawk! Uh, how cold is it in NYC (praying it's colder there than it is down here!) and your "It's well past time that the UN shut down the UNRWA and shift responsibility to the UNHCR, which handles millions more people on a fraction of the budget and which actually facilitates the turning of refugees into actual residents." Is spot on but not gonna be popular with Hamas and their enablers around the World and at the UN itself!

550 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:50:18am

re: #532 albusteve

BO continues to get hammered...his cabinet picks, his spendout bill is tanking, his juvenile foreign no policy, his arrogance and his work ethic.....whew...

if there is a GOP revival it might be on the back of governor Sanford of S Carolina...I like the guy and finally here's an interview...he's the real deal conservative...imo
[Link: www.wistv.com...]

I really like what Sanford has to say, but I've never seen him campaign, so it's hard to make him the front-runner. Based on what we know today, Sanford, Palin, Jindal, and Romney will all get a listen to from me.

551 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:51:00am

re: #536 smokefire

OK, Polah. When you get bette, we can try to steal the bear off the roof.

Yeah, we'll really get away with that too.

LOL

The class two years ahead of me in HS stole Mayor McCheese and put him in the courtyard for their senior prank.

For the class after them it was a VW Bug.

552 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:51:06am

From the you've got to be kidding me department, Ynetnews now says that they know that Mads Gilbert, the propaganda doc, was an al Qaeda sympathizer and pro-terrorist propagandist.

Well, if they had read FoxNews on January 8, 2009, LGF, Confederate Yankee, or my own blog, they'd have seen that he was a Maoist propagandist whose video was agitprop and who continues to lie about what he did while "treating" patients in Gaza during operation Cast Lead.

553 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:51:51am

Saint Anthony Patron Saint of Bacon

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

554 bloodnok  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:52:24am

re: #541 Kenneth

Informality Excess: Obama Replacing 'Hail to the Chief' With Sting's 'Desert Rose'

That has all the ceremony of a wrestler being introduced or a batter walking from the on-deck circle to home plate.

555 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:52:25am

re: #545 Dustyvet

A snuggie ...


I keep reading that as snuggly - those baby carrier pouches. LOL

556 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:52:40am

re: #547 nonic

Get your clubs out, folks.

Headline: Pope Thinks Women Should Not Go to College or Wear Trousers
[Link: www.bild.de...]

Oh, no, wait. That’s just what’s been attributed to Wacky Williamson.


I happen to agree with him. Women should not wear trousers. Or tops, for that matter.
/

557 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:53:02am

re: #514 Lincolntf
Oh yeah, she's hot - and a liberal elite too

“I’ve worked hard and been a success on my own,” Pizzuti told the Track. “I started working when I was 13 years old.”

A 30-year-old Lynnfield native, Pizzuti works for her family’s construction company and recently completed one of the first North Shore projects to receive both the Energy Star and U.S. Green Building Council’s earth-friendly LEED certifications.

Her 20-unit Pyburn Mews complex features bamboo-wood flooring, chemical-free carpeting, high-efficiency heating and cooling systems and energy-saving windows, lights and appliances.

“My focus is sustainable development,” Pizzuti said.

In her off time, the beauteous brunette travels extensively and, according to a profile on skirt.com, she has “taken cooking classes in Bangkok, done a turtle safari, popped over to Iceland for a weekend and surfed in Costa Rica and Nicaragua.”

“I’m into climbing and was keen to do one of the seven summits,” Pizzuti said.
So she decided to do it in high style. Pizzuti and a posse of pals threw a formal dinner atop Mount Kilimanjaro two Christmases ago to raise some dough for cancer research.

[emphasis added realwest]
yep, just your everyday average working girl success story.

558 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:53:11am

re: #553 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Saint Anthony Patron Saint of Bacon

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

mmmmmm bacon

now that I have my appetite back, watch out!

559 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:53:14am

re: #282 monkeytime

Thanks for letting us know. I pray no one inside was hurt and none of our brave firefighters are hurt putting it out!

I hate Church Fires. Once they start burning, there is nothing to do, except throw water, and try not to get hurt.

AKA Surround and drown.

560 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:53:15am

re: #541 Kenneth

Cheb Mani is a rai musician. Rai is Algerian protest music, wanting to modernize (mostly Islamic) traditions.

561 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:53:41am

re: #548 rightside

Just put your robe on backwards, same thing!

It's a fleece johnnie...

562 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:54:07am

re: #554 bloodnok

Desert Rose has to be seen as part of Obama's Muslim outreach

563 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:54:08am

re: #520 Dustyvet
Good morning Dusty! Medicate the cat first, otherwise you'll NEVER get any rest at all!

564 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:54:27am

re: #561 loppyd

It's a fleece johnnie...

Do sheep shrink when it rains?...:)

565 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:55:01am

re: #564 Dustyvet

Do sheep shrink when it rains?...:)

Where do you think baby sheep come from?

566 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:55:04am

re: #542 realwest

Hey {Maggie} thanks for the *smooches* for about three seconds I was almost warm! LOL!
And I do NOT want to hear what a beautiful summer day you're gonna be having!

We've been having beautiful summer days.....:-)

Warm nights too, but sadly (for me) in a few months our roles will be reversed - you'll slapping on the sunscreen and I'll be wearing bedsocks

567 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:55:32am

re: #554 bloodnok

That has all the ceremony of a wrestler being introduced or a batter walking from the on-deck circle to home plate.

Jimmy Carter was excessively informal too & everyone across the globe respected him.
/

The man wore a sweater, Bobby. - Hank Hill, King of The Hill

568 MJ  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:55:46am

The only shocking thing about this is that the UN admits it and the AP printed it:

UN says Hamas seized Gaza food aid and blankets

JERUSALEM – A U.N. spokesman says Hamas police in Gaza have seized thousands of blankets and food parcels meant for needy residents.
Spokesman Christopher Gunness says Hamas police raided a U.N. warehouse in Gaza City on Tuesday evening. He says police snatched 3,500 blankets and more than 400 food parcels....

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

569 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:56:05am

re: #566 aussiemagpie

We've been having beautiful summer days.....:-)

Warm nights too, but sadly (for me) in a few months our roles will be reversed - you'll slapping on the sunscreen and I'll be wearing bedsocks

{aussie}

I'd give just about anything to be stretched out on a warm beach right now!

570 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:56:30am

re: #562 Kenneth

By the US Marines, no less. I could understand broadcasting it on official channels, but playing it for him? And that lyric, a pale imitation of Rumi? Laughable.

571 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:56:35am

re: #562 Kenneth

Desert Rose has to be seen as part of Obama's Muslim outreach

Maybe he can try "Yellow Rose of Texas" as a part of an American outreach program.

572 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:56:48am

re: #523 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT - that "Federal Bailout money" is OUR (taxpayer) Money and damned if we shouldn't get shares of common (voting stock) for it.
Mind you, if a company makes it on it's own, I don't care what the hell the CEO gets paid, but I don't want ANYONE in any company I - derivatively at least - own shares of stock in making any $30 million a year!

573 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:57:00am

re: #565 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Where do you think baby sheep come from?

You have to careful about sheep references.

My girlfriend and I regularly fight. At one point, we just gotten things settled down so they were peaceful between us.

At one point, she was doing a crossword puzzle, and she asked me for a 3-letter word for a female sheep. I said, "Ewe" and that started a whole new fight . . .

574 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:57:28am

re: #550 DeafDog

I really like what Sanford has to say, but I've never seen him campaign, so it's hard to make him the front-runner. Based on what we know today, Sanford, Palin, Jindal, and Romney will all get a listen to from me.

tough road ahead for sure...at the end of his lenthy interview he quotes his dear old grandmother!....I liked that part alot

575 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:57:39am

re: #538 WriterMom

Mom, remember you talking about this person other day.

This story was online. Is it just dirty politics, or is there anything here about this.

[Link: www.israelnews.net...]

576 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:57:41am

re: #571 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Maybe he can try "Yellow Rose of Texas" as a part of an American outreach program.

Why would he reach out to us? He doesn't like us, we're the evil ones.

577 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:58:57am

re: #560 godfrey

Thanks for the link. Interesting cultural history.

578 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:59:08am

How to give a cat a pill

1) Pick cat up and cradle it in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand. As cat opens mouth pop pill into mouth. Allow cat to close mouth and swallow.

2) Retrieve pill from floor and cat from behind sofa. Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process.

3) Retrieve cat from bedroom, and throw soggy pill away.

4) Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm holding rear paws tightly with left hand. Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right fore-finger. Hold mouth shut for a count of ten.

5) Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of wardrobe. Call spouse from garden.

6) Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, hold front and rear paws. Ignore low growls emitted by cat. Get spouse to hold head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth. Drop pill down ruler and rub cat's throat vigorously.

7) Retrieve cat from curtain rail, get another pill from foil wrap. Make note to buy new ruler and repair curtains. Carefully sweep shattered figurines and vases from hearth and set to one side for gluing later.

8) Wrap cat in large towel and get spouse to lie on cat with head just visible from below armpit. Put pill in end of drinking straw, force mouth open with pencil and blow down drinking straw.

9) Check label to make sure pill not harmful to humans, drink glass of water to take taste away. Apply band-aid to spouse's forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap.

10) Retrieve cat from neighbor's shed. Get another pill. Place cat in cupboard and close door onto neck to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert spoon. Flick pill down throat with elastic band.

11) Fetch screwdriver from garage and put cupboard door back on hinges. Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus jab. Throw Tee-shirt away and fetch new one from bedroom.

12) Ring fire brigade to retrieve cat from tree across the road. Apologize to neighbor who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid cat. Take last pill from foil-wrap.

13) Tie cat's front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table, find heavy duty pruning gloves from shed. Push pill into mouth followed by large piece of fillet steak. Hold head vertically and pour 2 pints of water down throat to wash pill down.

14) Get spouse to drive you to the emergency room, sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearm and removes pill remnants from right eye. Call furniture shop on way home to order new table.

15) Arrange for RSPCA to collect cat and ring local pet shop to see if they have any hamsters.

579 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:59:17am

re: #557 realwest

That's one thing that's universal among the Red Sox ownership group. All of them are Lefties (I still kinda hope Lucchino is a closet Repub.) with more ties to Hoillywood than to Boston.
But they bring home championships, so I let it slide.

580 reine.de.tout  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:59:29am

re: #547 nonic

Get your clubs out, folks.

Headline: Pope Thinks Women Should Not Go to College or Wear Trousers
[Link: www.bild.de...]

Oh, no, wait. That’s just what’s been attributed to Wacky Williamson.

Well, so what. Blame the Church, anyway. Fire the Pope. Liquidate Vatican treasures.

But, seriously, folks.

The problem IS that there are very few dogmas that one MUST believe in order to be a Catholic. I’ll have to look this up, but I think it’s like, the Trinity, the Resurrection, maybe the Virgin Birth, probably a couple others.

Nowhere in the club membership contract (since that’s what people seem to think is involved) does it say you HAVE to subscribe to approved political or historical opinions. . . .

And on the flip side, one can be a perfectly good Catholic without subscribing to any wacky political or historical opinions voiced by the Pope or any of the clergy.

581 bloodnok  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:59:32am

re: #567 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Jimmy Carter was excessively informal too & everyone across the globe respected him.
/

The man wore a sweater, Bobby. - Hank Hill, King of The Hill

My favorite Hank Hill quote:

‘If President Reagan dyed his hair — and I’m NOT saying he did — he only did it to intimidate the Communists. G-d, I miss voting for that man.’”

582 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:00:01am

*blink Blink*

Black State Senator Wants Paid Confederate Holiday in South Carolina

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

buhhhh?

583 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:00:53am

re: #567 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Jimmy Carter was excessively informal too & everyone across the globe respected him.
/

The man wore a sweater, Bobby. - Hank Hill, King of The Hill

That reminds me of the story of Lee Atwater losing his sh*t on George H.W. Bush for wearing a short sleeve shirt with a tie at a campaign stop. He told him he looked like a f*cking clerk.

584 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:01:17am

Houston... we have a problem...

"Georg Ratzinger slams Angela Merkel over criticism"

"Georg Ratzinger has defended his brother Pope Benedict XVI over his decision to rehabilitate Bishop Williamson, a Holocaust denier, into the Catholic Church - and slammed Angela Merkel for her criticism."

[Link: www.bild.de...]

Folks, we have a problem, plain and simple. For anyone who has ever asked themselves or someone else how could of it all happened in Europe, what events and mindset in the 20's through 30's eventually led to the horrible killing of millions of people considered unwanted, well, it's time to learn that lesson all over again, because history is repeating itself.

585 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:01:30am

re: #572 realwest

Hey LT - that "Federal Bailout money" is OUR (taxpayer) Money and damned if we shouldn't get shares of common (voting stock) for it.
Mind you, if a company makes it on it's own, I don't care what the hell the CEO gets paid, but I don't want ANYONE in any company I - derivatively at least - own shares of stock in making any $30 million a year!

That's the thing... the government owns and controls the shares. It also think it rules us like a nanny, being morons that cannot control their own lives successfully.

There is a linkage from us to them they have abandoned... the part that says they work for us.

I don't mind a CEO making 30 million for a company I have a stake in, but he damn well better be a miracle worker and bring in buckets of cash to the company. If he's in the red, he shouldn't get more than min wage.

586 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:01:33am

re: #541 Kenneth
Hey Kenneth, how are you doing today my friend?

587 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:01:47am

re: #578 Dustyvet

How to give a cat a pill

1) Pick cat up and cradle it in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand. As cat opens mouth pop pill into mouth. Allow cat to close mouth and swallow.

2) Retrieve pill from floor and cat from behind sofa. Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process.

3) Retrieve cat from bedroom, and throw soggy pill away.

4) Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm holding rear paws tightly with left hand. Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right fore-finger. Hold mouth shut for a count of ten.

5) Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of wardrobe. Call spouse from garden.

6) Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, hold front and rear paws. Ignore low growls emitted by cat. Get spouse to hold head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth. Drop pill down ruler and rub cat's throat vigorously.

7) Retrieve cat from curtain rail, get another pill from foil wrap. Make note to buy new ruler and repair curtains. Carefully sweep shattered figurines and vases from hearth and set to one side for gluing later.

8) Wrap cat in large towel and get spouse to lie on cat with head just visible from below armpit. Put pill in end of drinking straw, force mouth open with pencil and blow down drinking straw.

9) Check label to make sure pill not harmful to humans, drink glass of water to take taste away. Apply band-aid to spouse's forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap.

10) Retrieve cat from neighbor's shed. Get another pill. Place cat in cupboard and close door onto neck to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert spoon. Flick pill down throat with elastic band.

11) Fetch screwdriver from garage and put cupboard door back on hinges. Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus jab. Throw Tee-shirt away and fetch new one from bedroom.

12) Ring fire brigade to retrieve cat from tree across the road. Apologize to neighbor who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid cat. Take last pill from foil-wrap.

13) Tie cat's front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table, find heavy duty pruning gloves from shed. Push pill into mouth followed by large piece of fillet steak. Hold head vertically and pour 2 pints of water down throat to wash pill down.

14) Get spouse to drive you to the emergency room, sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearm and removes pill remnants from right eye. Call furniture shop on way home to order new table.

15) Arrange for RSPCA to collect cat and ring local pet shop to see if they have any hamsters.

...............ROFLMAO.
16. After this, go on vacation, or start drinking heavily.

588 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:03:04am

Good morning Lizards. Another great day in LA, although we lost our farms to Global Warming®

589 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:03:16am

re: #570 godfrey

The lyrics of Desert Rose are very much in the Arabic tradition of the distant lover yearning for his beloved. That style existed before Rumi, and is still a standard in modern Arabic pop tunes. That... & Jew hate.

590 smokefire  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:03:42am

......enough of this already, time to do something constructive, like take a nap.

591 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:03:57am

say what you will about McCain but he still has some mojo and he's using it against the spendout


[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

592 nonic  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:04:36am

re: #580 reine.de.tout

And on the flip side, one can be a perfectly good Catholic without subscribing to any wacky political or historical opinions voiced by the Pope or any of the clergy.

Oh, right. Did I forget to mention that part? Thanks. :-)

And good thing, too. Or a lot of divorced and remarried people and people who use birth control would be out the door.

593 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:04:57am

re: #582 Jewels (AKA Julian)

*blink Blink*

Black State Senator Wants Paid Confederate Holiday in South Carolina

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

buhhhh?

A closed mouth gathers no foot.

594 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:05:28am

By the way, last night someone called me a boob (in a loving sort of way) and this morning I came across a great story in Yahoo News which I posted in the linkage, abovage.

595 UFO TOFU  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:05:47am

re: #546 Spenser (with an S)

I built Mrs. Tofu a raised garden, complete with watering system, shade cloth, wires for training tomatoes, etc. Every spring I prepare the soil buy/plant all kinds of vegetables.
But it's her garden.

596 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:06:07am

re: #581 bloodnok

My favorite Hank Hill quote:

‘If President Reagan dyed his hair — and I’m NOT saying he did — he only did it to intimidate the Communists. G-d, I miss voting for that man.’”

My favorite KOTH quote involving Reagan was when Bobby started dating a girl with very liberal parents & Hank insisted that he & the girl's dad chaperoned their dates. Another liberal parent caught sight of them at an ice cream store & contemptuously said to the girl's dad, "Way to go, Ronald Reagan." He replied, "Don't call me that!" & Hank replied, "Yeah, don't call him that!"

597 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:06:09am

re: #586 realwest

Not bad thanks. My son has a fever so I'm home looking after him today. I hope you're doing fine today, my friend!

598 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:06:32am

re: #587 smokefire

...............ROFLMAO.
16. After this, go on vacation, or start drinking heavily.

17. Get a dog. Doesn't care if you failed that day, just happy to see you.
The cat knew you would....and didn't say a damn thing...

599 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:06:37am

re: #552 lawhawk

LGF should be mandatory reading for all MSM moonbats and leftards.
I loved this quote in the YNET link:

When asked by the BBC what was his response, as a "neutral observer" to Israel's' claims it was only out to target Hamas, Gilbert replied: "This is a totally ridiculous statement. Of the hundreds of injured we've treated, only two were fighters."

Obviously Hamas would not have brought their wounded to be treated by this quacking tool. They would have sought out real doctors. So it is probably safe to assume that the two alleged "fighters" allegedly "treated" by the Red Swede were already dead before he got his or his ghoulish assistant's chest-tapping mitts on them.

600 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:06:40am

re: #571 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
"Maybe he can try "Yellow Rose of Texas" as a part of an Americanundocumented worker outreach program."
There, FTFY!

601 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:07:05am

re: #569 loppyd

{aussie}

I'd give just about anything to be stretched out on a warm beach right now!

G'day {lopps} Me too!

And get well soon - colds are such a pain aren't they?

602 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:07:22am

This just in: Global warming causes animal suicides, at least according to this ad.

603 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:07:25am

re: #598 SasquatchOnSteroids

17. Get a dog. Doesn't care if you failed that day, just happy to see you.
The cat knew you would....and didn't say a damn thing...

lol

604 UFO TOFU  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:07:46am

re: #553 Jewels (AKA Julian)

That reminds me of this.
I'm finally getting the recognition that I deserve...

605 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:08:08am

When is too much, too much,

"Record Breaking Breasts"

"We were already fairly impressed last April, when we heard (via ABC) that one Sheyla Hershey traveled to Houston for a boob job. And not just any boob job: An enhancement bound for the record books. Because after eight surgeries and a full gallon of silicone, the petite model/actress was a staggering 34 FFF."

[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]

Sorry sweety, I'd love to sleep with you, but, there's no room.

606 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:08:30am

I hope this isn't a double post....having network problems.

re: #572 realwest

Hey LT - that "Federal Bailout money" is OUR (taxpayer) Money and damned if we shouldn't get shares of common (voting stock) for it.
Mind you, if a company makes it on it's own, I don't care what the hell the CEO gets paid, but I don't want ANYONE in any company I - derivatively at least - own shares of stock in making any $30 million a year!

I really do understand your sentiment, but would you hire the cheapest pilot you could find to fly your plane? ..... or no pilot?

If you limit salary for execs of large companies to $500,000, you won't have any senior management.....or at least, none who can run a company that size.

607 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:09:18am

re: #591 albusteve

say what you will about McCain but he still has some mojo and he's using it against the spendout

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

McCain could have won the election if he had come out against the bailout.
(a chance in hell - but a real chance) That to me was the real game changer. He could have been the Maverick.
This stimulus package is a pork-laden loser, and even McCain knows it.

608 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:09:18am

re: #575 smokefire

I wouldn't believe a word that came out of Martin Indy's lousy, crap-filled, dhimmi, Kapo mouth. Seriously-these lefty Jews who get appointed as ambassadors to Israel really f&ck Israel up royally.

However, that Lieberman is denying it is not a good thing. I would be extremely surprised if he agreed to that.

609 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:09:52am

re: #603 monkeytime

lol

"Cat's motto: No matter what you've done wrong, always try to make it look like the dog did it." - Unknown

610 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:09:57am

re: #605 Walter L. Newton

Thar she blows! Idiot 2 points off the larboard bow!

611 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:10:30am

re: #605 Walter L. Newton

When is too much, too much,

"Record Breaking Breasts"

"We were already fairly impressed last April, when we heard (via ABC) that one Sheyla Hershey traveled to Houston for a boob job. And not just any boob job: An enhancement bound for the record books. Because after eight surgeries and a full gallon of silicone, the petite model/actress was a staggering 34 FFF."

[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]

Sorry sweety, I'd love to sleep with you, but, there's no room.

She's going to pay a terrible price for that, physically.
She'll be crippled by the time she's 50.

612 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:10:34am

re: #557 realwest

Oh yeah, she's hot - and a liberal elite too


[emphasis added realwest]
yep, just your everyday average working girl success story.

High maintenance, ya think?

613 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:11:10am

re: #607 FrogMarch

McCain could have won the election if he had come out against the bailout.
(a chance in hell - but a real chance) That to me was the real game changer. He could have been the Maverick.
This stimulus package is a pork-laden loser, and even McCain knows it.

I tend to agree...he was closing in the polls...he dashed back to DC to support Paulson/Buch and iced the deal right there

614 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:11:36am

re: #610 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Thar she blows! Idiot 2 points off the larboard bow!

615 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:12:10am

Good morning.

Victor Davis Hanson on the impending Obama Meltdown.

Schadenfreude aside, I kind of have to hope he's wrong. The guy is the President... we're stuck with him.

616 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:12:48am

re: #605 Walter L. Newton

That is so NOT attractive. Yuck.

617 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:12:48am

Good Morning Lizards!

Just 8 more days until Pitchers and Catchers report! WooHoo!

618 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:13:02am

re: #605 Walter L. Newton

When is too much, too much,

"Record Breaking Breasts"

"We were already fairly impressed last April, when we heard (via ABC) that one Sheyla Hershey traveled to Houston for a boob job. And not just any boob job: An enhancement bound for the record books. Because after eight surgeries and a full gallon of silicone, the petite model/actress was a staggering 34 FFF."

[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]

Sorry sweety, I'd love to sleep with you, but, there's no room.

But she went to Brazil to upgrade to 34 KKK breasts! Racist!

619 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:13:18am

re: #608 WriterMom

I wouldn't believe a word that came out of Martin Indy's lousy, crap-filled, dhimmi, Kapo mouth.

Stop beating around the bush, WM, tell us how you really feel.

620 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:13:22am

re: #613 albusteve

That whole "suspending his campaign" to tend to the "urgent needs of the economy" was an amateurish, counter-productive stunt. AND he was on the wrong side of the issue, to boot!

621 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:13:24am

Good morning people!
Has anybody looked at the Drudge Headline?

500 Million Americans lose their jobs every month.
It points to a YouTube video titled "Nancy Pelosi: Dumber than Soap".

622 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:13:34am

re: #601 aussiemagpie

G'day {lopps} Me too!

And get well soon - colds are such a pain aren't they?

Thanks - I'm sick of being sick. It's boring!

623 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:13:34am

re: #605 Walter L. Newton

OK, you can have too much of a good thing.

624 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:13:45am

re: #615 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

Victor Davis Hanson on the impending Obama Meltdown.

Schadenfreude aside, I kind of have to hope he's wrong. The guy is the President... we're stuck with him.


You're stuck with him, I intend to retreat into my rich inner fantasy life....

625 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:14:09am

re: #617 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards!

Just 8 more days until Pitchers and Catchers report! WooHoo!

Yeah baby!

626 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:14:29am

OT:

Most ethical administration .... evah!/
Rahm Emanuel is living in an illegal apt. in DC. Apparently a private investigator tracked down where he was living, and it is the basement of Rep. Rosa DeLauro, a Democrat.

Only problem. She lives in a 1-family that is zoned to prohibit renting the basement. He's been living in an illegal apartment.

Sheesh.

And that's on top of the fact that he treats his Chicago home as the office of a charitable group to avoid paying property taxes.

627 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:14:39am

re: #611 Irish Rose

She's going to pay a terrible price for that, physically.
She'll be crippled by the time she's 50.

And I'll tell you, I'm 56, single, a male, and still frisky, thank you, and that doesn't do anything for me. Honestly, she looks like a monster. Most of the time we have to help people like that, medically and/or mentally.

No a days, they get on Dr. Phil.

628 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:14:41am

James Lewis at AT....BO the disaster....heh


[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

629 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:14:49am

re: #622 loppyd

Thanks - I'm sick of being sick. It's boring!

I am right there with you, Loppy. On the bright side...Just 8 more days until Pitchers and Catchers report! WooHoo! I may have mentioned that before.

630 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:15:16am

re: #615 Occasional Reader

Good morning, Lizards.

I have been reading and attending lectures of VDH for some time now, about a decade. He has seldom been wrong. I can't think of a single example, come to think of it.

631 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:15:24am

re: #605 Walter L. Newton

When is too much, too much,

"Record Breaking Breasts"

"We were already fairly impressed last April, when we heard (via ABC) that one Sheyla Hershey traveled to Houston for a boob job. And not just any boob job: An enhancement bound for the record books. Because after eight surgeries and a full gallon of silicone, the petite model/actress was a staggering 34 FFF."

[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]

Sorry sweety, I'd love to sleep with you, but, there's no room.


I'm just fascinated by them...don't know why, but I am.

632 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:15:28am

re: #616 Kenneth

That is so NOT attractive. Yuck.

Concur. I just don't get it.

633 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:15:32am

re: #615 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

Victor Davis Hanson on the impending Obama Meltdown.

Schadenfreude aside, I kind of have to hope he's wrong. The guy is the President... we're stuck with him.

Instapundit commented on this very story:

TEETERING ON THE BRINK OF “an Obama implosion?” He’s had some bad appointments, and he’s being tested by the Russians, et al., but isn’t it a bit early to declare him a failure?

634 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:15:35am

re: #578 Dustyvet

As a cat owner - this is true. But the answer is simple. The burrito.
It takes at least two people - but you wrap the cat in a large heavy towel. Wrapping and folding like a burrito. Make sure that only the cat's face is showing when you are done wrapping. A cat has four paws - each with five scalpels. Those 20 razor sharp scalpels must be restrained, or a bloody trip to the ER is inevitable.

635 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:15:42am

I am liking Jakey Boy more and more....

The Obama White House Didn't Much Care for This Piece...

Watch it. It's gooood.

636 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:16:08am

re: #614 Dustyvet

ROFLMAO.

Haven't heard that song in years. (Probably for good reason.)

637 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:16:14am

re: #629 Ford_Prefect

I am right there with you, Loppy. On the bright side...Just 8 more days until Pitchers and Catchers report! WooHoo! I may have mentioned that before.

Lester is already there!

638 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:16:14am

re: #626 lawhawk

Is this guy pathologically cheap or what? He's made some serious coin in his day and he has to use other people's homes as crash pads?
Grow up, Rahm, you're supposed to be a big boy now.

639 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:16:46am
640 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:16:49am

re: #621 jwb7605

Sheesh... and the media complained about Bushisms? The Democrats have more than their share of winners...

641 MJ  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:17:02am

Cheney warns of new attacks

Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned that there is a “high probability” that terrorists will attempt a catastrophic nuclear or biological attack in coming years, and said he fears the Obama administration’s policies will make it more likely the attempt will succeed. ...

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


Speaking "Truth to Power"....

642 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:17:06am

re: #631 Golem Akbar

I'm just fascinated by them...don't know why, but I am.

They have their own gravity well... you're getting sucked in.

643 Macker  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:17:23am

re: #51 jroberson

Sometimes I feel like I'm in an old Star Trek episode, the one(s) where the Enterprise enters a dark and evil mirror Universe.

БХО has no need for a beard like Spock did.

644 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:17:33am

re: #571 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Maybe he can try "Yellow Rose of Texas" as a part of an American outreach program.

He could promote music by "Guns & Roses"

645 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:17:54am

re: #626 lawhawk

OT:

Most ethical administration .... evah!/
Rahm Emanuel is living in an illegal apt. in DC. Apparently a private investigator tracked down where he was living, and it is the basement of Rep. Rosa DeLauro, a Democrat.

Only problem. She lives in a 1-family that is zoned to prohibit renting the basement. He's been living in an illegal apartment.

Sheesh.

And that's on top of the fact that he treats his Chicago home as the office of a charitable group to avoid paying property taxes.

Living in a basement apartment? What the hell? Tom Daschle needs to give this guy some pointers on the high life.

646 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:17:56am

re: #624 Peacekeeper

You're stuck with him, I intend to retreat into my rich inner fantasy life....

I have never yet disagreed with VDH...he's always right

647 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:17:59am

re: #637 loppyd

Lester is already there!

That's my boy! And they signed Varitek. Very happy about that.

648 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:18:03am

re: #631 Golem Akbar

I'm just fascinated by them...don't know why, but I am.

Are you fascinated by golems, creatures, monsters? Er, never mind :)

649 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:18:16am

re: #633 gmsc

I'll be the first. It's been over two weeks. He's a failure.

:-)

/see, that wasn't so hard.

650 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:18:18am

re: #627 Walter L. Newton

And I'll tell you, I'm 56, single, a male, and still frisky, thank you, and that doesn't do anything for me. Honestly, she looks like a monster. Most of the time we have to help people like that, medically and/or mentally.

No a days, they get on Dr. Phil.

I'm a 42D au natural, and I have back problems that take me to the chiropractor on a regular basis because of it.

That woman is in for a world of hurt.

651 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:18:19am

re: #582 Jewels (AKA Julian) Whoa Jewels - that's a story to wake you up! LOL!
But methink that Lonnie Randolph ought to go to parts of Africa and the M.E. where Slavery is still practiced and legal:

Lonnie Randolph, president of the state conference of NAACP branches, objected to that reasoning.

"Here Senator Ford is talking about the importance of race relations by forcing recognition of people who did everything they could to destroy another race — particularly those that look like I do," Randolph said. "You can't make dishonor honorable. It's impossible."


Way to go, Lonnie! You'll set race relations back in South Carolina come hell or high water, won't you?!

652 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:18:46am

re: #615 Occasional Reader

Great article, choice quote:

At home, Obama is becoming laughable and laying the groundwork for the greatest conservative populist reaction since the Reagan Revolution.

...If he doesn't quit the messianic style and perpetual campaign mode, and begin humbly governing, then he will devolve into Carterism—angry that the once-fawning press betrayed him while we the people, due to our American malaise, are to blame.

VDH is bang on.

653 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:18:46am

re: #620 Lincolntf

That whole "suspending his campaign" to tend to the "urgent needs of the economy" was an amateurish, counter-productive stunt. AND he was on the wrong side of the issue, to boot!

yup...the painful truth

654 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:18:48am

re: #633 gmsc

I tend to agree with Instapundit on this one. I think VDH let his rhetoric get ahead of him a bit.

655 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:19:16am

re: #574 albusteve

tough road ahead for sure...at the end of his lenthy interview he quotes his dear old grandmother!....I liked that part alot

Yeah, I quote my dear old grand-dad all the time even though I never met him. So I was a little cynical on that one.

656 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:19:17am

re: #651 realwest
Addendum: Lonnie Randolph is, needless to say, a Democrat, not a member of the Party of Lincoln.

657 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:19:34am

re: #571 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Maybe he can try "Yellow Rose of Texas" as a part of an American outreach program.

When I'm President, I'll order the Marine band to play "Bad To The Bone" to introduce me.

658 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:19:43am

re: #647 Ford_Prefect

That's my boy! And they signed Varitek. Very happy about that.

I hope he can put up some better numbers offensively this year....

659 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:20:25am

Outta here Lizards!

Get well soon Dusty, take care RW, stay out of trouble Walter, Woo-hoo Irish Rose, hubba hubba.

660 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:20:31am

re: #608 WriterMom

I wouldn't believe a word that came out of Martin Indy's lousy, crap-filled, dhimmi, Kapo mouth. Seriously-these lefty Jews who get appointed as ambassadors to Israel really f&ck Israel up royally.

However, that Lieberman is denying it is not a good thing. I would be extremely surprised if he agreed to that.


Maybe yes, maybe no. A lot of stuff (crap, sh#t) was done in the Clinton era. Today is different. Few Israelis believe that Land-For-Peace is a good idea, anymore. Several intifadas, 9/11, and Gaza have changed a lot of minds.

That Kadima still believes they can negotiate with the Pals is going to lead to their defeat in the upcoming elections (thank G-d).

661 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:20:55am

re: #624 Peacekeeper

You're stuck with him, I intend to retreat into my rich inner fantasy life....

It's funny you should say that, because Obama's domestic & foreign policy seems to be the product of a "rich inner fantasy life".

662 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:21:04am

re: #621 jwb7605

LOL! We have the biggest group of buffoons running the country right now.

663 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:21:52am

re: #657 Occasional Reader

When I'm President, I'll order the Marine band to play "Bad To The Bone" to introduce me.

I long ago chose 'Duke of Earl'

664 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:21:54am

Don't worry, if Obama cracks we have Joe Biden to back him up.

665 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:22:21am

re: #591 albusteve

say what you will about McCain but he still has some mojo and he's using it against the spendout


[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

I was wathcing him last nigh on some news show and it was like - where was that guy during the frick'n campaign? He was actually talking economic sense and not repeating - over and over - the evils of a million dollar projector.

666 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:22:32am

re: #613 albusteve

re: #620 Lincolntf

Precisely

667 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:22:33am

re: #654 Occasional Reader

I tend to agree with Instapundit on this one. I think VDH let his rhetoric get ahead of him a bit.

If 0bama's action do keep up at this rate, a Republican-majority congress might be a possibility in the 2010 elections.

668 jorline  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:22:38am

Very Important Message

I've been communicating with midwestgak, a great friend to a lot of us here on the day threads. Gak was a victim of the current layoffs late last week ...please keep her in your prayers.

She has an Apple at home and can't stay connected to LGF. She sent me an email last night about the problem.

For some reason when I sign on to LGF, I get kicked out of Safari every time. I've checked with both Earthlink and Apple and have been told they are not the source of the problem. It has to do with the site itself. I've tried to go to "Contact" at LGF to resolve the problem, but I get ousted. I've tried Foxfire and Excel with no luck. Think anyone at LGF can offer a solution?

Please post your replies to this thread...gak is lurking right now and reading your suggestions for a solution.

I will post this message again around 11 CST when Charles is awake and moving.

Help get gak back on LGF...thanks

669 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:22:41am

re: #662 FrogMarch

LOL! We have the biggest group of buffoons running the country right now.

Presidential motorcade...

Image: clown%20car.JPG

670 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:23:00am

re: #664 Peacekeeper

Don't worry, if Obama cracks we have Joe Biden to back him up.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MONTRESSOR! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

671 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:23:22am

re: #642 lawhawk

They have their own gravity well... you're getting sucked in.


*smile*

672 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:23:33am

re: #663 albusteve

I long ago chose 'Duke of Earl'

Ooh, that's a good one, too!

673 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:23:34am

re: #618 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

But she went to Brazil to upgrade to 34 KKK breasts! Racist!

Getting the boob jobs Brazilians won't do themselves.
/

674 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:23:50am

re: #585 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) But LT, that's what this is: It only applies to Executives who've been "forced" to "borrow" Federal (taxpayer) money.
If the mofo's had been able to just survive without taxpayer help, I wouldn't care either. But I'll be DAMNED if a guy who has run a company into the ground, and gets the company he ran saved by our taxdollars, should get anything more than $500,000 a year, if that!

675 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:24:00am
676 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:24:14am

re: #654 Occasional Reader

VDH did not say this meltdown is happening now, but that if Obama continues in this mode it will happen. I agree with VDH on that, if Obama does not change from capaign style rhetoric to governing mode, he will screw up. For example, his "unclench your fist" line would play well at a Berkeley fundraiser, but it was laughable in Tehran.

677 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:25:09am

re: #658 loppyd

Yeah. Signing him was a good move, but he ended the season looking terrible at the plate (despite one key hit that I hazily remember).
He batted (approximately) .220 last season, which is just barely good enough to keep him in the lineup. Did we end up signing Josh Bard?

678 Macker  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:25:13am

re: #664 Peacekeeper

Don't worry, if Obama cracks we have Joe The Biden™ to back him up.

There, fixed that for ya!

679 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:25:14am

re: #672 Occasional Reader

Ooh, that's a good one, too!

Bone is way better tho...I mean Thorogood c'mpn

680 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:25:31am

re: #668 jorline

She has an Apple at home and can't stay connected to LGF. She sent me an email last night about the problem.

For some reason when I sign on to LGF, I get kicked out of Safari every time.

All I can say is, I accessed LGF with a Mac via Safari as recently as last night, with no problem.

Please give mwg my regards and a virtual hug... she'll pull through, I'm sure of it.

681 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:25:43am

re: #658 loppyd

I hope he can put up some better numbers offensively this year....

Yeah, but even still, just having him there to work with the pitching staff is big. I hope that when he is done playing they bring him on as a coach.

682 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:26:00am

re: #670 Occasional Reader

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MONTRESSOR! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

Ya know...I recall Obama in one of his more humble moments saying that Will Smith would be his choice to play him in a movie.
Now I'd say for Joe Biden we'd need to cast Adam West.

683 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:26:06am

re: #591 albusteve
Hey albusteve - can't access the page - your link has done overloaded it!
Summary, PLEASE?!

684 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:26:14am

re: #634 FrogMarch

As a cat owner - this is true. But the answer is simple. The burrito.
It takes at least two people - but you wrap the cat in a large heavy towel. Wrapping and folding like a burrito. Make sure that only the cat's face is showing when you are done wrapping. A cat has four paws - each with five scalpels. Those 20 razor sharp scalpels must be restrained, or a bloody trip to the ER is inevitable.

"I keep forgetting - five of his six ends are pointy." Calvin, after sneaking up on Hobbes.

685 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:26:29am

re: #675 Iron Fist

I went to high school with the guy that's now the Lieutenant Governor. we weren't close friends or anything like that, but I did help him move a bridge once.

move a bridge?...to where

686 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:26:49am

re: #660 Golem Akbar

Today is different. Few Israelis believe that Land-For-Peace is a good idea, anymore.

Boy, I hope you are correct. But then how is it that Kadima and Labour are still polling as well as they are? It still looks like a horse race to me.

687 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:26:58am

re: #669 Walter L. Newton

Presidential motorcade...

[Link: www.abracadabra.com...]

beep beep - here come the clowns.

688 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:26:59am

re: #679 albusteve

Bone is way better tho...I mean Thorogood c'mpn

Compromise; you can be my Veep, we do "Bad to..." for me, "Duke" for you.

689 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:27:10am

re: #677 Lincolntf

Yeah. Signing him was a good move, but he ended the season looking terrible at the plate (despite one key hit that I hazily remember).
He batted (approximately) .220 last season, which is just barely good enough to keep him in the lineup. Did we end up signing Josh Bard?

They did sign Bard. Hopefully he can handle Wake better this time around.

690 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:27:41am

re: #641 MJ

Cheney warns of new attacks

Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned that there is a “high probability” that terrorists will attempt a catastrophic nuclear or biological attack in coming years, and said he fears the Obama administration’s policies will make it more likely the attempt will succeed. ...

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Speaking "Truth to Power"....

Fear-mongerer!
/

691 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:27:49am

re: #677 Lincolntf

Yeah. Signing him was a good move, but he ended the season looking terrible at the plate (despite one key hit that I hazily remember).
He batted (approximately) .220 last season, which is just barely good enough to keep him in the lineup. Did we end up signing Josh Bard?



For starters, Red Sox are looking good


Toward the back end of the rotation, Wakefield returns for his 15th season with the Sox. One of the more intriguing subplots of the spring will be the identity of Wakefield’s designated receiver. With Kevin Cash gone, the Sox appear set to give Josh Bard another chance at catching Wakefield’s knuckleball. Bard vows that he’ll be more successful than he was in 2006 when he was charged with 10 passed balls in a month.
692 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:28:01am

re: #675 Iron Fist

I went to high school with the guy that's now the Lieutenant Governor. we weren't close friends or anything like that, but I did help him move a bridge once.

Aw, he went into public service? I'm sorry to hear that.

693 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:28:03am

re: #676 Kenneth

VDH did not say this meltdown is happening now, but that if Obama continues in this mode it will happen. I agree with VDH on that, if Obama does not change from capaign style rhetoric to governing mode, he will screw up. For example, his "unclench your fist" line would play well at a Berkeley fundraiser, but it was laughable in Tehran.

I have a feeling that Obama will have a major meltdown before the year is out. He has done nothing but campaign his entire career in politics. He's never settled down and governed. Even as a US Senator, he started campaigning for the presidency within six months of winning the election. Now, he can't campaign anymore. He has to govern; something that's very foreign to him. It is to be seen if the man can actually govern anything.

694 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:28:06am

re: #641 MJ

Chaney warns of new attacks

Former Vice President Dick Chaney warned that there is a “high probability” that terrorists will attempt a catastrophic nuclear or biological attack in coming years, and said he fears the Obama administration’s policies will make it more likely the attempt will succeed. ...

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


Speaking "Truth to Power"....

I saw that this morning and found it disconcerting. It's not like Chaney to break protocol and exiting POTUS and VPOTUS typically stay out of political arguments after they leave office. I'm thinking he knows something and he's genuinely concerned. Am I reading too much into it? Probably. Where's my tinfoil hat?

695 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:28:07am

*Waves* at midwestgak!

You'll be back in soon, sweetie.
If not now... certainly later, when Charles is up and around.

No worries.

696 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:28:40am

re: #681 Ford_Prefect

Yeah, but even still, just having him there to work with the pitching staff is big. I hope that when he is done playing they bring him on as a coach.

That would be perfect.

697 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:28:44am

re: #597 Kenneth
Well other than freezing my ass off (the builders of this apartment complex never heard the word "insulation") I'm ok, sorry to hear about your son though.
Gee, you're really having a tough time of it my friend, I pray that things will get better soon.

698 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:28:45am

re: #589 Kenneth

Ah, distant lovers. It's hard not to sympathize.

699 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:28:51am

re: #684 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"I keep forgetting - five of his six ends are pointy." Calvin, after sneaking up on Hobbes.

ha!
How could I forget the teeth? An added pointy deadly bonus.

700 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:28:55am

re: #685 albusteve

move a bridge?...to where

Madison County?

701 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:29:07am
702 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:29:17am

re: #682 Peacekeeper

Ya know...I recall Obama in one of his more humble moments saying that Will Smith would be his choice to play him in a movie.
Now I'd say for Joe Biden we'd need to cast Adam West.

Hmm, not bad.

I can't really think of who I'd pick to play Obama. Hard to capture that X factor of naive smugness.

703 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:29:30am

re: #694 DeafDog

Watch the left complain bitterly and seethe over Cheney's comments, even as they ignored years of Carter and Clinton meddling in foreign affairs and sticking their nose where it didn't belong. Hypocrites one and all.

704 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:30:07am

re: #683 realwest

Hey albusteve - can't access the page - your link has done overloaded it!
Summary, PLEASE?!

slammed BOs executive orders as well as the spending bill...called it "comical if it weren't so serious"

705 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:30:08am

re: #657 Occasional Reader

When I'm President, I'll order the Marine band to play "Bad To The Bone" to introduce me.

Ha!

Ya got my vote!

706 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:30:17am

in 2006 when he was charged with 10 passed balls in a month.

They must feed them guys a lot of fiber.

707 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:30:31am

re: #589 Kenneth

The lyrics of Desert Rose are very much in the Arabic tradition of the distant lover yearning for his beloved. That style existed before Rumi,

(... who, of course, was not an Arab.)

708 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:30:45am

re: #657 Occasional Reader

When I'm President, I'll order the Marine band to play "Bad To The Bone" to introduce me.

"The Imperial March" from Empire Strikes Back would be my choice. I plan on having that instead of "The Wedding March" when I get married.

709 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:31:06am

re: #688 Occasional Reader

Compromise; you can be my Veep, we do "Bad to..." for me, "Duke" for you.

works for me since I'm probably old enough to be your grandfather....

710 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:31:13am

re: #701 Iron Fist

I wonder what his screen name is on Daily Kos? Could he be the mighty Meteor Blades or the infamous Kestral9000?

Inquiring minds want to know :-)

I'd place my bets on him being Kestral.

711 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:31:16am

re: #703 lawhawk

Watch the left complain bitterly and seethe over Cheney's comments, even as they ignored years of Carter and Clinton meddling in foreign affairs and sticking their nose where it didn't belong. Hypocrites one and all.

Have you read the commments on the article....Halliburton was even thrown into the mix.

712 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:31:31am

re: #693 Honorary Yooper

I have a feeling that Obama will have a major meltdown before the year is out. He has done nothing but campaign his entire career in politics. He's never settled down and governed. Even as a US Senator, he started campaigning for the presidency within six months of winning the election. Now, he can't campaign anymore. He has to govern; something that's very foreign to him. It is to be seen if the man can actually govern anything.

Excellent! Updinged and favorited.

713 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:31:55am

re: #693 Honorary Yooper

I have a feeling that Obama will have a major meltdown before the year is out. He has done nothing but campaign his entire career in politics. He's never settled down and governed. Even as a US Senator, he started campaigning for the presidency within six months of winning the election. Now, he can't campaign anymore. He has to govern; something that's very foreign to him. It is to be seen if the man can actually govern anything.

I'll lay down $10 right now that Obama will be the first President to say "fuck" on live TV before the year is out.

714 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:32:06am

re: #663 albusteve

Bill was going to use this song, but Hillary stopped him:

715 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:32:07am

British Army officer accused of leaking casualty figures in Afghanistan

"We can confirm that a British Army officer has been arrested in Afghanistan on suspicion of breaching the Official Secrets Act," the MoD said in a statement. "He is being returned to the UK for questioning.

Nice. Thanks for that.

716 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:32:11am

re: #606 eschew_obfuscation IF the BEST PILOT MONEY COULD BUY still crash landed and need MY money to help him out, I'd sure as hell hire a different pilot and make the pilot prove his/her worth before paying super biggo bucks!

717 jorline  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:32:47am

re: #680 Occasional Reader

All I can say is, I accessed LGF with a Mac via Safari as recently as last night, with no problem.

Please give mwg my regards and a virtual hug... she'll pull through, I'm sure of it.

Thanks, OR.

Is there any settings she can check? Are there common mistakes made while connecting to Safari using an Apple?

718 abaleh  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:33:05am

re: #639 Iron Fist

Maybe he can sell the nukes he's not interested in to Iran; that would warm up US-Iran relations and would save the trouble and money of destroying the weapons.

/

719 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:33:21am

re: #708 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"The Imperial March" from Empire Strikes Back would be my choice. I plan on having that instead of "The Wedding March" when I get married.

See, there's a self-inherent contradiction in that plan...

720 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:33:25am

I have a fear that once Obama gets pantsed by Iran or North Korea he will flail around and look for a military response out of spite and a desire to appear tough.

721 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:33:34am

re: #713 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'll lay down $10 right now that Obama will be the first President to say "fuck" on live TV before the year is out.

He'll need a 5 or 10 second delay on damn near every speach.

722 aussiemagpie  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:33:46am

Bedtime here, so nightynight {everyone}

Have a wonderful yesterday!

I'll leave you with this story....

Alleged (he did have pigeons stuffed in his knickers) bird smuggler caught....

AN alleged bird smuggler had his feathers ruffled when airport customs officers seized two live pigeons stuffed into his tights.

The 23-year-old man of Meadow Heights in suburban Melbourne had just landed at Melbourne Airport on Sunday after a flight from Dubai when customs and border control officers stopped him and searched his bags.

They allegedly found in the man's pocket a multi-vitamin container holding two birds eggs, and a further search revealed he was wearing tights with the two live birds stuffed inside, one in each leg.

Officers also seized a money belt containing plant seeds and undeclared samples of eggplant in the passenger's baggage before he was handed over to Australian Quarantine and Inspection Services staff.

What, we don't have enough pigeons in OZ? Or eggplants?

Goodnight...

723 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:33:47am

re: #694 DeafDog

I saw that this morning and found it disconcerting. It's not like Chaney to break protocol and exiting POTUS and VPOTUS typically stay out of political arguments after they leave office. I'm thinking he knows something and he's genuinely concerned. Am I reading too much into it? Probably. Where's my tinfoil hat?

I got it right here, next to mine. It's gonna be a LONG four years.

724 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:34:15am

re: #714 Kenneth

Bill was going to use this song, but Hillary stopped him:


[Video]

some serious BilFunk there

725 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:34:53am

re: #717 jorline

Thanks, OR.

Is there any settings she can check? Are there common mistakes made while connecting to Safari using an Apple?

I never had any problems or had to switch any default settings.

Full discloure: Me am caveman with this stuff. Strange box from gods work, give me magic images, that all me know.

726 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:35:07am

re: #612 Spare O'Lake
High Maintenance? Try stratospheric!

727 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:35:12am

re: #719 Occasional Reader

See, there's a self-inherent contradiction in that plan...

If I insist on a Star Wars themed wedding, one of two things will happen. A - she'll agree & I'll be marrying the most awesome girl ever, or B - she'll say no & not let me participate in the wedding planning at all. It's a win-win.

728 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:35:15am

re: #722 aussiemagpie

Bedtime here, so nightynight {everyone}

Have a wonderful yesterday!

I'll leave you with this story....

Alleged (he did have pigeons stuffed in his knickers) bird smuggler caught....

What, we don't have enough pigeons in OZ? Or eggplants?

Goodnight...


Men wear knickers? Go figure...:)

729 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:35:31am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

730 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:35:33am

Morning, lizards! We got almost 11 inches of surprise global warming last night. Weather man said 2-4 inches and surprise! we can't get out of the neighborhood.

Can't remember the last time somebody promised me four and gave me ten....
/

731 loppyd  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:36:09am

BBL

732 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:36:09am

re: #719 Occasional Reader

See, there's a self-inherent contradiction in that plan...

Translation: An inherent self-contradiction.

/bangs head on desk

733 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:36:25am

So last night I watched Sam Kinnison and Eddie Murphy videos on YouTube....laughed my ass off.

734 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:36:38am

re: #717 jorline

Thanks, OR.

Is there any settings she can check? Are there common mistakes made while connecting to Safari using an Apple?

Considering she is having trouble with 3 browsers, I would say something changed on her Mac, general system settings, the network settings, hardware problem...

Everything points to the Mac or the connection, not one of the browsers.

Can she connect to other sites on the Internet?

735 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:36:52am

re: #668 jorline

Sorry to hear about Midwestgak's job loss. That stinks. I have no idea about the computer/connection issues, though. Anyone?

736 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:36:55am

re: #727 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If I insist on a Star Wars themed wedding, one of two things will happen. A - she'll agree & I'll be marrying the most awesome girl ever, or B - she'll say no & not let me participate in the wedding planning at all. It's a win-win.

Just don't make her wear the metal bikini in the ceremony, while chained to you.

737 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:37:03am
738 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:37:09am

re: #720 Peacekeeper

Maybe Obama can get us into a cold war with India by interfering in the Kashmir (Muslim) dispute.

739 MJ  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:37:25am

re: #694 DeafDog

I saw that this morning and found it disconcerting. It's not like Chaney to break protocol and exiting POTUS and VPOTUS typically stay out of political arguments after they leave office. I'm thinking he knows something and he's genuinely concerned. Am I reading too much into it? Probably. Where's my tinfoil hat?

I wonder if the Dems will have the audacity to attack Cheney for his remarks when they have Jimmy Carter who not only has criticized every President when in this country, but has given aid and comfort to the enemies of America while standing on foreign soil.

740 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:37:43am

Washington Post: Senate Lacks Votes to Pass Stimulus

Senate Democratic leaders conceded yesterday that they do not have the votes to pass the stimulus bill as currently written and said that to gain bipartisan support, they will seek to cut provisions that would not provide an immediate boost to the economy.

The legislation represents the first major test for President Obama and an expanded Democratic Congress, both of which have made economic recovery the cornerstone of their new political mandate. The stimulus package has now tripled from its post-election estimate of about $300 billion, and in recent days lawmakers in both parties have grown wary of the swelling cost.

Moderate Republicans are trying to trim the bill by as much as $200 billion, although Democrats working with those GOP senators have not agreed to a specific figure.

741 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:37:56am

re: #722 aussiemagpie

Have a wonderful tomorrow.

742 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:38:00am

re: #720 Peacekeeper

I have a fear that once Obama gets pantsed by Iran or North Korea he will flail around and look for a military response out of spite and a desire to appear tough.

Fire up the empty-tent-seeking missiles!

743 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:38:20am

Do you suppose Charles will respond to the last line of this Ben Stein article?
It's on Hot Air, and was apparently posted last night around 9 P.M.

744 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:38:20am

re: #738 godfrey

Maybe Obama can get us into a cold war with India by interfering in the Kashmir (Muslim) dispute.

Biden will be sent to mediate & amuse all with his wacky impression of an Indian 7/11 clerk.

745 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:38:28am

Cheney:

“When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an Al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry,” Cheney said.

Protecting the country’s security is “a tough, mean, dirty, nasty business,” he said. “These are evil people. And we’re not going to win this fight by turning the other cheek.”

Finally, an adult speaks.

746 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:38:47am

Ha,

Radio report just now (no link) says the mother of 8 is complaining that there is no offers from manufactures for diaper, food etc.

Get a fucking clue lady, first of all, you're not entitled to anything, it's obvious at this point that you did this on purpose, with some "15 minutes" of fame scheme floating around in your warped little brain and no one is going to jump on this.

Geeeesssshhhh. Somebody tell her, calling Dr. Phil.

747 vxbush  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:38:57am

Yet another quick hello, as I'm leaving one meeting and heading off to another--but not before I give greetings to my lizard friends.

The tech goddess has successfully slain two dragons today, and presents of chocolates are appearing on my desk.

Today it is a good day to be a geek.

748 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:39:08am

re: #738 godfrey

Maybe Obama can get us into a cold war with India by interfering in the Kashmir (Muslim) dispute.

Can you imagine the Indian retaliation? None of us would ever get customer support for anything, ever again!

749 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:39:15am

re: #668 jorline

Very Important Message

I've been communicating with midwestgak, a great friend to a lot of us here on the day threads. Gak was a victim of the current layoffs late last week ...please keep her in your prayers.

She has an Apple at home and can't stay connected to LGF. She sent me an email last night about the problem.

For some reason when I sign on to LGF, I get kicked out of Safari every time. I've checked with both Earthlink and Apple and have been told they are not the source of the problem. It has to do with the site itself. I've tried to go to "Contact" at LGF to resolve the problem, but I get ousted. I've tried Foxfire and Excel with no luck. Think anyone at LGF can offer a solution?

Please post your replies to this thread...gak is lurking right now and reading your suggestions for a solution.

I will post this message again around 11 CST when Charles is awake and moving.

Help get gak back on LGF...thanks

jorline, if you still on....
Nic is email blue! Pass it to midwestwestgak.
25 year apple user and self confessed geek.

750 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:39:25am

re: #739 MJ

I wonder if the Dems will have the audacity to attack Cheney for his remarks when they have Jimmy Carter who not only has criticized every President when in this country, but has given aid and comfort to the enemies of America while standing on foreign soil.

And received a Nobel Peace Prize for doing so.
/spit

751 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:39:41am

re: #697 realwest

Oh, the lad is fine & I really don't miss going to work today. There are some challenges in my life right now, but I have been counting my blessings.

That sucks about your freezing apartment. One word of advice: longjohns.

752 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:40:05am

re: #732 Occasional Reader

Translation: An inherent self-contradiction.

/bangs head on desk

Ha-ha

753 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:40:08am
754 abaleh  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:40:11am

re: #686 Spare O'Lake

Boy, I hope you are correct. But then how is it that Kadima and Labour are still polling as well as they are? It still looks like a horse race to me.

You have to remember that Bibi was already a PM, and many Israelis consider him a disaster as such. The same is true of Barak, so in essence a vote for Livni is a vote not going to those two.
The reason Labour is doing well is the Gaza war, who some are considering a success, and therefore attributing to Barak.

755 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:40:17am

re: #628 albusteve
Uh

The O's just announced a 10% cut for the defense budget, while the overall budget deficit has just risen by two trillion dollars. That may signal a Carteresque drawdown in our burdened military. This is not the time to lower our guard, but like Jimmy Carter, the O administration is betting against history.

Some lizards yesterday said that that was a load of crap; that Obama has actually proposed an 8% increase in defense spending and that Fox News, which first reported the 10% cut just got it WRONG. Sorry, no links to those comments and their links - but ya can find 'em on LGF - for yesterday.

756 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:40:32am

re: #739 MJ

I wonder if the Dems will have the audacity to attack Cheney for his remarks when they have Jimmy Carter who not only has criticized every President when in this country, but has given aid and comfort to the enemies of America while standing on foreign soil.

Attacking Chaney, IMO, would be bad politics, so I doubt it. After all, Chaney will never hold any political office ever again. That said, O-nitwit did feel the need to attack Rush, which is equally bizarre. So who knows?

757 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:40:46am

re: #746 Walter L. Newton

Ha,

Radio report just now (no link) says the mother of 8 is complaining that there is no offers from manufactures for diaper, food etc.

Get a fucking clue lady, first of all, you're not entitled to anything, it's obvious at this point that you did this on purpose, with some "15 minutes" of fame scheme floating around in your warped little brain and no one is going to jump on this.

Geeeesssshhhh. Somebody tell her, calling Dr. Phil.

I love it when a good plan falls apart...:)

758 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:40:56am

re: #748 Occasional Reader

Can you imagine the Indian retaliation? None of us would ever get customer support for anything, ever again!

Can we wish for that. There is a g-d!

759 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:41:07am

re: #733 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I love Sam. I was a week over due with my first and we rented his video and I laughed myself into labor.

760 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:41:19am

re: #740 gmsc

Washington Post: Senate Lacks VotesBalls to Pass Stimulus

They don't want this albatross around their necks unless they can fool people into thinking it is a bi-partisan boondoggle.
If it's so damn important, Dems, then pass it!

761 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:41:19am

Cheney is 68 and will be 71 in 2012.

Just sayin'.

762 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:41:44am

re: #759 VioletTiger

I love Sam. I was a week over due with my first and we rented his video and I laughed myself into labor.

That's funny!

763 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:41:48am

re: #641 MJ

Cheney warns of new attacks

Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned that there is a “high probability” that terrorists will attempt a catastrophic nuclear or biological attack in coming years, and said he fears the Obama administration’s policies will make it more likely the attempt will succeed. ...

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Speaking "Truth to Power"....

And when (G-d forbid) such an attack occurs, all the troofers will trot out this statement to say Cheney planned it.

764 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:42:04am

re: #761 godfrey

Cheney is 68 and will be 71 in 2012.

Just sayin'.


From your lips to Gods ears!

765 Macker  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:42:12am

re: #713 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'll lay down $10 right now that Obama will be the first President to say "fuck" on live TV before the year is out.

If he does this, it's a sure bet he'll be lampooned like Christian Bale was: NSFW!

766 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:42:14am

re: #761 godfrey

Cheney is 68 and will be 71 in 2012.

Just sayin'.

Can you imagine the moonbat implosion precipitated by "President Cheney"?

767 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:42:18am

re: #740 gmsc

...to gain bipartisan support, they will seek to cut provisions that would not provide an immediate boost to the economy.

That would leave about $1.98.

768 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:42:24am

re: #740 gmsc

Washington Post: Senate Lacks Votes to Pass Stimulus

Which republican will break for this bill? Whoever it is better be retiring, because he/she will get a primary challenge.

769 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:42:32am

re: #740 gmsc

Washington Post: Senate Lacks Votes to Pass Stimulus

eliminate ALL the pork...reduce payrole taxes...drop the 'tax breaks' for non payers and presto problem solved and affordable

770 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:42:42am

re: #745 godfrey

I hope some adults in our new gov are listening. Oh, wait....

771 Eowyn2  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:42:47am
772 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:43:34am
773 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:43:38am

re: #769 albusteve

eliminate ALL the pork...reduce payrole taxes...drop the 'tax breaks' for non payers and presto problem solved and affordable

Forget Veep... will you be my Treasury Secretary?

(Say, you haven't "forgotten" to pay any income tax, have you?)

774 shanec99  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:43:48am

re: #674 realwest
You know on this matter I agree with you.

If I own a company, and my employees buy expensive lunches everyday, and use the company car to take their wives and kids on vacation while the company is losing money, I would be pretty upset. I might even fire the dumb ass.
These fellows not only ran the companies into the ground, they enriched themselves while firing the people who were trying to make the company profitable.
$500,000 is too generous... hell when Iococa turned Chrysler around he worked for $1.

775 vxbush  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:43:52am

re: #769 albusteve

eliminate ALL the pork...reduce payrole taxes...drop the 'tax breaks' for non payers and presto problem solved and affordable

Except I like the bumper sticker that one of our own dear lizards here has produced (but I'm sure I have fumbled it a bit):

BALANCE THE BUDGET
AUDIT A DEMOCRAT

776 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:43:55am

re: #745 godfrey

Cheney:

Finally, an adult speaks.

I was hoping he wouldn't just away...he breaths fire

777 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:44:06am

re: #719 Occasional Reader

Not in the slightest... there are always a master and a learner... nothing in Sith lore opposes marriage between the two...

/and for the record, I entered our wedding reception to the throne room march:

778 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:44:09am

re: #686 Spare O'Lake

Boy, I hope you are correct. But then how is it that Kadima and Labour are still polling as well as they are? It still looks like a horse race to me.

It's a complicated mess, their political system. It's parliamentary (holdover from the English) and not like the two-party system in America. Israel Beiteinu, Shas, and maybe Meretz will unite with Likud and form a majority government, as I have been told. Of course there will be a lot of horse trading, but Netanyahu ought to emerge as the leader.

Of course, anything can still happen before the election.

779 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:44:28am

The mayor of Denver is on the radio from Washington, talking to who ever about the stimulus bill.

He said he's not there looking for a HANDOUT.

What? So, what do you call it, idiot.

780 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:44:29am

re: #742 Occasional Reader

Fire up the empty-tent-seeking missiles!

Just wait for the hagiographic Ken Burns documentary in 2020:
"In aught nine after Tel aviv was vaporized, Obama clustered with his generals and diversity staff for three days- a meeting that was to change the face of war in the 21st century. The result, Operation Made You Look, was by far the..."

781 Eowyn2  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:44:43am

re: #747 vxbush

Yet another quick hello, as I'm leaving one meeting and heading off to another--but not before I give greetings to my lizard friends.

The tech goddess has successfully slain two dragons today, and presents of chocolates are appearing on my desk.

Today it is a good day to be a geek.

money trumps chocolate every time. tell them you prefer white envelopes with the green inside.

782 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:44:52am

So, for those of us intending to keep score:

- Bill Richardson, first choice for Commerce Secretary, withdrew amid a grand jury investigation into a state contract he awarded to his political donors

- Nancy Killefer, nominee for Chief Performance Officer and deputy director of OMB, had to withdraw because she owed $298 in unemployment compensation for household help, $48.69 in interest, and $600.00 in penalties

- Tom Daschle, HHS nomination, tax evader (Medicaid taxes for his chauffeur): on Jan. 2 he filed more than $140,000 in back taxes and interest, having failed to disclose more than $300,000 in past income, including the use of a car and driver for three years

- Timothy Geithner, nominee for Secretary of the Treasury, also failed to pay more than $40,000 in payroll taxes when he worked for the International Monetary Fund

Feel free to add.

- Rahm Emanuel, Chief of Staff, lives in the basement of Democratic Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro illegally (really).

783 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:44:59am

re: #769 albusteve

eliminate ALL the pork...reduce payrole taxes...drop the 'tax breaks' for non payers and presto problem solved and affordable

Simpleton, you!

:)

784 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:45:09am

The Ones Plate keeps filling up....

Russia plays tricky game with U.S. over Kyrgyzstan base

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia has embarked on a risky political game with new U.S. President Barack Obama by forcing its ally Kyrgyzstan to close a U.S. military base while keeping up overtures to establish warmer relations with Washington.

The Manas air base near the capital of the Central Asian state is a key supply centre for U.S. troops fighting in Afghanistan, a campaign that Obama has set as a key priority.

Kyrgyz President Kurmanbek Bakiyev standing alongside Russia's Dmitry Medvedev at a news conference in Moscow, said on Tuesday he would close the base after securing a vital rescue package of over $2 billion from Russia.

The surprise move came in the middle of Medvedev's overtures to Obama aimed at raising bilateral ties from post-Cold War lows where they have languished since the days of former U.S. President George W. Bush.


And of course it's Bush's fault.......

785 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:45:16am

Also in the spinoffs.
The jokes here are obvious.

Border Guard Finds 200 Goats Stolen by PA Arabs

The Border Guard police in northern Israel have received a Certificate of Honor from cattle raisers for finding a stolen herd of 200 goats. The herd had been stolen from their western Galilee farm by Arabs in Samaria.

Those poor goats will need treatment now. What was done to them?

And what will the Palis do? The Israelis are denying them both food and entertainment.

786 jorline  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:45:42am

re: #734 Walter L. Newton

Considering she is having trouble with 3 browsers, I would say something changed on her Mac, general system settings, the network settings, hardware problem...

Everything points to the Mac or the connection, not one of the browsers.

Can she connect to other sites on the Internet?

I will ask her now, Walter. May be time delayed.

787 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:45:47am

re: #755 realwest

Uh

Some lizards yesterday said that that was a load of crap; that Obama has actually proposed an 8% increase in defense spending and that Fox News, which first reported the 10% cut just got it WRONG. Sorry, no links to those comments and their links - but ya can find 'em on LGF - for yesterday.

there doesnt seem to be much out there...BO is treading water with regard to defense spending imo

788 abaleh  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:45:50am

re: #778 Golem Akbar

It's a complicated mess, their political system. It's parliamentary (holdover from the English) and not like the two-party system in America. Israel Beiteinu, Shas, and maybe Meretz will unite with Likud and form a majority government, as I have been told. Of course there will be a lot of horse trading, but Netanyahu ought to emerge as the leader.

Of course, anything can still happen before the election.

I doubt Meretz would join Israel Beiteinu. More likely Labour, Shas, Likud and Israel Beiteinu.

789 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:45:58am

re: #693 Honorary Yooper

I have a feeling that Obama will have a major meltdown before the year is out. He has done nothing but campaign his entire career in politics. He's never settled down and governed. Even as a US Senator, he started campaigning for the presidency within six months of winning the election. Now, he can't campaign anymore. He has to govern; something that's very foreign to him. It is to be seen if the man can actually govern anything.

Amen!

And when faced with difficulties, his first instinct is... more campaigning!

790 vxbush  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:46:03am

re: #781 Eowyn2

money trumps chocolate every time. tell them you prefer white envelopes with the green inside.

Ah, but the good will I generate here will go a long way to making sure I stay employed. Right now, that's a bit more important. And, in theory anyway, I have a salary review going on, based on how I'm doing far more than the original job description requires. So we'll see how that goes.

791 Eowyn2  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:46:12am

re: #769 albusteve

eliminate ALL the pork...reduce payrole taxes...drop the 'tax breaks' for non payers and presto problem solved and affordable

Um, eliminate ALL the pork and the freebies? Sorry, that IS the tax bill.

792 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:46:22am

re: #668 jorline
HI jorline - just reported that to Charles - gak ought to be able to e-mail Charles herself though, shouldn't she?!

793 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:46:34am
794 jorline  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:47:07am

re: #749 jcm

jorline, if you still on....
Nic is email blue! Pass it to midwestwestgak.
25 year apple user and self confessed geek.

Thanks, jcm...checking now and passing your email to her.

795 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:47:09am

re: #777 lawhawk

Not in the slightest... there are always a master and a learner... nothing in Sith lore opposes marriage between the two...

/and for the record, I entered our wedding reception to the throne room march:

To top that, I think BDVM will have to exchange wedding vows in Gungan.

796 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:47:43am

Barney Frank: TARP's comp curbs could be extended to all businesses
Would be part of broader bill limiting hedge funds, credit-raters, and mortgage securitizers; 'deeply rooted anger'
Congress will consider legislation to extend some of the curbs on executive pay that now apply only to those banks receiving federal assistance, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said.

“There’s deeply rooted anger on the part of the average American,” the Massachusetts Democrat said at a Washington news conference today.

He said the compensation restrictions would apply to all financial institutions and might be extended to include all U.S. companies.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said last month that he might try to extend to all U.S. companies a restriction that prohibits bailout banks from taking a tax deduction of more than $500,000 in pay for each executive. Mr. Geithner said he would consider “extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally.”
Financial Week

797 vxbush  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:48:16am

re: #796 Killer Tomato

Barney Frank: TARP's comp curbs could be extended to all businesses
Would be part of broader bill limiting hedge funds, credit-raters, and mortgage securitizers; 'deeply rooted anger'
Congress will consider legislation to extend some of the curbs on executive pay that now apply only to those banks receiving federal assistance, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said.

“There’s deeply rooted anger on the part of the average American,” the Massachusetts Democrat said at a Washington news conference today.

He said the compensation restrictions would apply to all financial institutions and might be extended to include all U.S. companies.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said last month that he might try to extend to all U.S. companies a restriction that prohibits bailout banks from taking a tax deduction of more than $500,000 in pay for each executive. Mr. Geithner said he would consider “extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally.”
Financial Week

And now we watch the stock market drop to 500......

798 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:48:33am

re: #796 Killer Tomato

My anger is directed squarely at Barney Frank and his fatcat socialist buddies.

799 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:48:36am

re: #720 Peacekeeper

So far, Ahmadinejad is happily fisting Obama.

800 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:48:40am

re: #773 Occasional Reader

Forget Veep... will you be my Treasury Secretary?

(Say, you haven't "forgotten" to pay any income tax, have you?)

I'm..ah...not much of a tax payer anymore...but "I am not a crook!"

801 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:48:53am

re: #675 Iron Fist
Good morning Bro' "I did help him move a bridge once."
What did you do, punch him in the mouth?!?
:)

802 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:48:53am

Saw this from the Associated Press over at Foxnews today.

"Human rights groups are seeking to build a case that Israel and Hamas violated the laws of war during the fighting last month in this tiny coastal territory — a charge both combatants reject."

Ya want the money quote?


"Given the clarity of Hamas' violations, such as firing rockets at Israeli cities, organizations are focusing more on Israeli actions, the facts of which they say are harder to establish.

"The Israeli authorities deny everything, so one has to prove what happened in a way that you don't need to do with the Palestinian rockets," said Donatella Rovera of Amnesty International."

So, there you go: the evidence of HAMAS atrocities requires no investigation; HAMAS' claims of Israeli war-crimes are more difficult to prove, because they cannot find any evidence to support the allegation.

803 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:48:56am

re: #746 Walter L. Newton

I want to know what the hell is going on with these fertility drugs.
8 babies... 8 BABIES! I read a comment somewhere (probably a comment by some lefty) but I agree w/it -- 'The human body was not meant to have a litter'. If I desperately wanted a baby, and the doctor warned me that taking fertility drugs could possibly give me 6 - 7 - or 8 babies, I'd say 'NO Way - I'll adopt'.

804 MJ  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:49:02am

re: #763 Kosh's Shadow

And when (G-d forbid) such an attack occurs, all the troofers will trot out this statement to say Cheney planned it.

He's has the experience, don't you know? This would be the second time he planned a terrorist attack against the US...

/

805 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:49:02am

re: #796 Killer Tomato

Why is that crook Geithner in charge of anything? Can anyone explain that to me? What a fucking outrage.

806 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:49:07am

re: #779 Walter L. Newton

The mayor of Denver is on the radio from Washington, talking to who ever about the stimulus bill.

He said he's not there looking for a HANDOUT.

What? So, what do you call it, idiot.

Of course it's not a "handout". Handouts are given voluntarily. He's looking to get YOUR money, whether you like it or not. See the difference?

807 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:49:16am

Time to get on with something productive, have a pleasant morning lizards.

808 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:49:29am

I'm working on trying to teach Maisey the Parrot a new word, any new word this morning...

Me (I scream) "Hello"
Maisey (screech) "What"
Me (I scream) "Hello"
Maisey (screech) "What"
Me (I scream) "Hello"
Maisey (screech) "What"
Me (I scream) "Hello"
Maisey (screech) "What"
Me (I scream) "Hello"
Maisey (screech) "What"
Me (I scream) "Shut up"
Maisey (screech) "What"

Does this remind you of politicians.

809 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:49:41am

re: #779 Walter L. Newton

The mayor of Denver is on the radio from Washington, talking to who ever about the stimulus bill.

He said he's not there looking for a HANDOUT.

What? So, what do you call it, idiot.

double reverse shitspeak....the new lingo dood

810 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:50:13am
811 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:50:24am

re: #782 godfrey

Nancy Killefer had a property tax lien in that amount ($964.69) but had also failed to pay employment taxes on the hired help. That was a separate obligation.

Hilda Solis also has problems.

Ron Sims for HUD.

And the lobbyists... all those lobbyists.

812 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:50:25am

re: #769 albusteve

eliminate ALL the pork...reduce payrole taxes...drop the 'tax breaks' for non payers and presto problem solved and affordable

The democrats live to raise taxes and control people. They will never cut any tax.

813 gmsc  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:50:57am

re: #708 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"The Imperial March" from Empire Strikes Back would be my choice. I plan on having that instead of "The Wedding March" when I get married.

I can already see BDVM's wedding video . . . and so can you now!

814 Eowyn2  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:50:59am

re: #785 Kosh's Shadow

Also in the spinoffs.
The jokes here are obvious.

Border Guard Finds 200 Goats Stolen by PA Arabs


Those poor goats will need treatment now. What was done to them?

And what will the Palis do? The Israelis are denying them both food and entertainment.

It's obvious. they will have to go back to using their tunnels for milk distribution.

815 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:51:03am

re: #796 Killer Tomato

Barney Frank: TARP's comp curbs could be extended to all businesses
Would be part of broader bill limiting hedge funds, credit-raters, and mortgage securitizers; 'deeply rooted anger'
Congress will consider legislation to extend some of the curbs on executive pay that now apply only to those banks receiving federal assistance, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said.

“There’s deeply rooted anger on the part of the average American,” the Massachusetts Democrat said at a Washington news conference today.

He said the compensation restrictions would apply to all financial institutions and might be extended to include all U.S. companies.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said last month that he might try to extend to all U.S. companies a restriction that prohibits bailout banks from taking a tax deduction of more than $500,000 in pay for each executive. Mr. Geithner said he would consider “extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally.”
Financial Week


WTF? They can't do that!

816 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:51:17am

re: #808 Walter L. Newton

I'm working on trying to teach Maisey the Parrot a new word, any new word this morning...

Me (I scream) "Hello"
Maisey (screech) "What"
Me (I scream) "Hello"
Maisey (screech) "What"
Me (I scream) "Hello"
Maisey (screech) "What"
Me (I scream) "Hello"
Maisey (screech) "What"
Me (I scream) "Hello"
Maisey (screech) "What"
Me (I scream) "Shut up"
Maisey (screech) "What"

Does this remind you of politicians.

Sounds like an ID thread......
/ ;-)

817 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:51:45am

Here is an interesting article about the federal economy. There is a letter included in the article that was written back in 1993 in response to Bill Clinton's request for ideas to deal with the bad economy of that time. It should be read by our current President and taken to heart.

A few weeks ago I sat down to re-read the Constitution of the United States of America. The document is very clear to me. Apparently, it is not clear to many lawyers, judges and politicians. Certain Powers are given to each of the three branches of the federal government, All others remain with the individual states and the people. (Please reference Amendment Ten.) Powers in the following areas are NOT given to the federal government. Therefore all federal spending in these areas can be eliminated.

Some are listed here.

1. The Departments of Agriculture, Education, and Energy
2. The Department of Housing and Urban Development
3. The Federal Emergency Management Administration
4. The Social Security Administration
5. Federal Unemployment Administration
6. Medical and scientific research is not directly related to the federal responsibility for national defense
7. The National Endowment for the Arts

There is more good stuff in the letter as well.

818 Macker  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:51:51am

re: #796 Killer Tomato

He's still the Banking Queen, you know....

819 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:51:51am

re: #782 godfrey

Just to help complete the scorecard, remember too......

Charlie Rangle ---> tax cheat
Al Frankin ----> tax cheat
Hillary Clinton -----> SecState accepting foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation
Dodd/Conrad ----> friends of Angelo
Obama -----> Tony Rezco land deal.

Can you say "Culture of Corruption"?

820 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:52:05am

re: #795 Occasional Reader

To top that, I think BDVM will have to exchange wedding vows in Gungan.

Ted Kennedy can preside. He has the Boss Nass jowls necessary for the proper accent.

821 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:52:05am

re: #785 Kosh's Shadow

Also in the spinoffs.
The jokes here are obvious.

Border Guard Finds 200 Goats Stolen by PA Arabs

Those poor goats will need treatment now. What was done to them?

Maybe it's time for another chorus of Desert Rose,


Oh night oh night
It's been too long
That I've been looking for my loved one
That I've been looking for my loved one
That I've been looking for my loved one

Just another love-lorn Arab yout...

822 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:52:17am

re: #782 godfrey


I actually feel some sympathy for Killefer; her stuff was very small potatoes, and she actually made good long BEFORE there was any serious possibility of a Cabinet position (or even a One presidency), if I'm not mistaken. She basically is getting splattered by the crashing Daschle shitwagon.

823 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:52:34am

re: #793 Iron Fist

It was a fairly long wooden bridge across a creek in one of our neighbor's back yard. Flooding had lifted it off its moorings and washed it down stream a bit. We had to lift and carry it maybe as much as fifty feet and re-seat it on its moorings. Dude got a work crew together, and we finallt got the bridge where it belonged.

IIRC, he paid us each $5-10. He had a landscaping business, and these people were one of his customers. His landscaping business was fairly lucrative. I dar say that he was the guy in our gradualting class who was making the big bucks. He was a hard worker, especially for a teenage man. I, myself was dissolute, earning a few bucks here and there to spend on my girlfriend. He contemplating a run for Governor. I hope he runs and wins.

sounds like good business to me...no other way to do it actually...guy had a can do attitude

824 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:52:54am

re: #766 Occasional Reader

Can you imagine the moonbat implosion precipitated by "President Cheney"?

Add Sarah Palin as VP and it would grow exponentially.

825 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:52:56am

Did anyone see this mornings news about a man who crashed his bike in Japan and bled to death as the medics took him to 14 different hospitals that couldn't help him...

(Gov health care) OMG!

826 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:53:15am

re: #784 jcm

Putin must be having a chuckle at how easily he's gonna have his way with Obama.
A veteran world leader with a KGB background vs. a metrosexual community organizer?
I don't like the odds.

827 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:53:17am

via Hot Air:
Disgrace: Gillibrand happily recants her old views on immigration

She also does a decent Valley Girl impression, including ending a statement with a question mark?

828 Eowyn2  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:53:17am

re: #790 vxbush

Ah, but the good will I generate here will go a long way to making sure I stay employed. Right now, that's a bit more important. And, in theory anyway, I have a salary review going on, based on how I'm doing far more than the original job description requires. So we'll see how that goes.

Good luck with that. And you are correct. keeping a job right now is more important that a hundred dollar bill in an envelope.

829 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:53:18am

I'm sitting here putting together season ticket packets that were ordered in Jan. Sales are down, I'll tell you.

830 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:53:23am

re: #801 realwest

Good morning Bro' "I did help him move a bridge once."
What did you do, punch him in the mouth?!?
:)

haha!

831 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:53:25am

re: #819 DeafDog

Just to help complete the scorecard, remember too......

Charlie Rangle ---> tax cheat
Al Frankin ----> tax cheat
Hillary Clinton -----> SecState accepting foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation
Dodd/Conrad ----> friends of Angelo
Obama -----> Tony Rezco land deal.

Can you say "Culture of Corruption"?

Arne Duncan (ED) CAC and Ayers.
Shaun Donovan (HUD) ACORN.

832 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:53:32am

re: #808 Walter L. Newton

What?

833 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:53:38am
834 vxbush  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:54:12am

re: #803 FrogMarch

I want to know what the hell is going on with these fertility drugs.
8 babies... 8 BABIES! I read a comment somewhere (probably a comment by some lefty) but I agree w/it -- 'The human body was not meant to have a litter'. If I desperately wanted a baby, and the doctor warned me that taking fertility drugs could possibly give me 6 - 7 - or 8 babies, I'd say 'NO Way - I'll adopt'.

It sounds to me, based on the little that I have heard, that she might have some psychological problems that someone should have discovered. I think she needed treatment for psychological issues before she had three babies, much less fourteen.

835 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:54:17am

re: #743 jwb7605

Do you suppose Charles will respond to the last line of this Ben Stein article?
It's on Hot Air, and was apparently posted last night around 9 P.M.

Allahpundit has to deal with some of the discodudes in his comments. Some of them are really bonkers.

836 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:54:24am

re: #825 Dustoff-507

Did anyone see this mornings news about a man who crashed his bike in Japan and bled to death as the medics took him to 14 different hospitals that couldn't help him...

(Gov health care) OMG!

Dustoff! Morning, you catch our sunrise?

837 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:54:29am

re: #833 Iron Fist

The poor goats were probable ass-raped on the trip over to the point that they'd welcome the butcher's block to end the torment.

"And slew they the goats, yea, and placed they the bits in little pots." Here endeth the lesson.

838 MJ  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:54:34am

Recruiter of female bombers speaks out

Says women were raped as first step

BAGHDAD — A woman accused of helping recruit dozens of female suicide bombers looked into the camera and described the process: trolling society for likely candidates and then patiently converting the women from troubled souls into deadly attackers.

[Link: www.buffalonews.com...]

Some Muslims appear to be the only people on earth who offer human sacrifice of their own children while raping their own women.

839 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:54:43am

re: #816 jcm

Sounds like an ID thread......
/ ;-)

LOL

Really, I'm saying "hello," she says "what," or she "caa's" like a chicken, or laughs at me, but not even any attempt to say the word.

840 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:54:43am

re: #801 realwest

Good morning Bro' "I did help him move a bridge once."
What did you do, punch him in the mouth?!?
:)

The State of Minnesota has a new program to assist unemployed Dentist's in conjunction with The Minnesota Highway Department, you'll see the signs on Minnesota Highways:

"BRIDGE WORK AHEAD"

841 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:55:04am

re: #812 FrogMarch

The democrats live to raise taxes and control people. They will never cut any tax.

Kennedy did...there is precedent....how far will these maniacs go is the question

842 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:55:27am

re: #811 lawhawk

News I can use. Thanks!

843 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:55:30am

re: #825 Dustoff-507

[Link: www.iht.com...]

[deleted]

844 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:55:30am

While the Democraps are not paying taxes, but handing out yours to people who can't manage a paper bag, they want to take more of our jobs, "to help the economy":
H-1B, offshoring supporters get key Obama Administration posts

Commerce nominee Judd Gregg believes H-1Bs help create jobs for U.S. workers


Let's see, giving jobs to foreigners creates jobs for US citizens?
Well, they believe taxing stimulates the economy.

Why don't we outsource all our executive positions in these bailed out companies to foreign executives who know how to actually produce something people want to buy, and make money in the process?

845 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:55:44am

re: #805 rawmuse

Why is that crook Geithner in charge of anything? Can anyone explain that to me? What a fucking outrage.

cos he's really kewl...just like Obama!

/

846 Eowyn2  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:55:55am

re: #815 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
re: #796 Killer Tomato

Barney Frank: TARP's comp curbs could be extended to all businesses
Would be part of broader bill limiting hedge funds, credit-raters, and mortgage securitizers; 'deeply rooted anger'
Congress will consider legislation to extend some of the curbs on executive pay that now apply only to those banks receiving federal assistance, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said.

“There’s deeply rooted anger on the part of the average American,” the Massachusetts Democrat said at a Washington news conference today.

He said the compensation restrictions would apply to all financial institutions and might be extended to include all U.S. companies.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said last month that he might try to extend to all U.S. companies a restriction that prohibits bailout banks from taking a tax deduction of more than $500,000 in pay for each executive. Mr. Geithner said he would consider “extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally.”
Financial Week


WTF? They can't do that!

it all depends on how you define "constitution"

847 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:55:58am

re: #838 MJ

Recruiter of female bombers speaks out

Says women were raped as first step

[Link: www.buffalonews.com...]

Some Muslims appear to be the only people on earth who offer human sacrifice of their own children while raping their own women.

Who are we to judge their culture?
/////////////////////////////////////////////spit

848 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:56:04am

re: #826 Lincolntf

Putin must be having a chuckle at how easily he's gonna have his way with Obama.
A veteran world leader with a KGB background vs. a metrosexual community organizer?
I don't like the odds.


Obama is like a child learning to ride a bike. He has training wheels on the bike, now, but just wait 'til the training wheels come off...

849 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:56:27am

re: #814 Eowyn2

It's obvious. they will have to go back to using their tunnels for milk distribution.

And smuggle copies of Playgoat.
"Achmed, look at the udders on this one!"

850 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:56:32am

re: #813 gmsc

I can already see BDVM's wedding video . . . and so can you now!

I see some ass invited JarJar.

851 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:56:57am

re: #836 jcm

SWEET..... (-:

852 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:57:03am

re: #850 Honorary Yooper

I see some ass invited JarJar.

I thought he was with the band. My bad.

853 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:57:17am
854 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:57:25am

re: #720 Peacekeeper
Hey PK - I have to say I agree with you on that one.
I get more and more afraid of the Obama presidency every damn day.

855 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:57:33am

re: #795 Occasional Reader

To top that, I think BDVM will have to exchange wedding vows in Gungan.

Mee-sa plegde to love you-sa for bombad long time!

856 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:57:53am

re: #849 Kosh's Shadow

And smuggle copies of Playgoat.
"Achmed, look at the udders on this one!"

Achmed: She making me horny.

857 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:57:56am

re: #838 MJ

Recruiter of female bombers speaks out

Says women were raped as first step


[Link: www.buffalonews.com...]

Some Muslims appear to be the only people on earth who offer human sacrifice of their own children while raping their own women.


Unfathomable evil.

858 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:58:39am

re: #547 nonic

Get your clubs out, folks.

Headline: Pope Thinks Women Should Not Go to College or Wear Trousers
[Link: www.bild.de...]

Oh, no, wait. That’s just what’s been attributed to Wacky Williamson.

Sure, deck your lower parts in pants
Yours are the limbs, my sweeting
You look divine as you advance
But have you seen yourself retreating?

859 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:59:13am

re: #729 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops - Well I'm freezing my buns off today, how are you doing?!

860 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:59:14am

re: #843 lawhawk

NUTS........

861 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:59:32am

re: #825 Dustoff-507

Did anyone see this mornings news about a man who crashed his bike in Japan and bled to death as the medics took him to 14 different hospitals that couldn't help him...

(Gov health care) OMG!

I've taken trauma patients to the zoo (Harborview Med Center) when it was full up, they always made room somehow, pulling people off the floors etc... I can only remember a couple redirects for non-critical cases.

862 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:59:37am
863 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:59:49am

re: #838 MJ

Obamaviously, we need to do more "outreach" to the jihadosphere.

864 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:00:03am

re: #838 MJ

Recruiter of female bombers speaks out

Says women were raped as first step


[Link: www.buffalonews.com...]

Some Muslims appear to be the only people on earth who offer human sacrifice of their own children while raping their own women.


The worship of Moloch. It is considered the epitome of evil in the Bible.

865 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:00:11am

re: #841 albusteve

Kennedy did...there is precedent....how far will these maniacs go is the question

Overall though, I think the democrats do not understand that they cannot punish the private sector with redistributive tax schemes and call it a "tax cut".
They will ruin our economy.

866 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:00:26am
867 capitalist piglet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:00:55am

re: #743 jwb7605

Do you suppose Charles will respond to the last line of this Ben Stein article?
It's on Hot Air, and was apparently posted last night around 9 P.M.

Just friendly banter from AllahPundit - Charles addressed it last night.

868 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:01:01am

re: #853 ploome hineni

is there any elected woman in Washington who is not employing an illegal (under the table)as domestic help?

I don't know why limit it to "woman"... but I'd say, anyone with half a brain in an elected position in DC can easily avoid this. You want housecleaners? Hire a SERVICE, so that it's purely a contractual relationship. You're not responsible for tax withholding, social security, verifying immigration status, etc.; the company is. So damn easy... I can't believe these idiots keep getting caught on this.

869 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:01:10am

re: #862 ploome hineni

O'Reilly wnet into a rage yesterday. He finally figured out what amnesty for 10 (or so) million illegals would mean for the Republican party and government in USA

That the Dems were using this method of ensuring power for the rest of the century

As any ancient Incan could tell you, drilling through ten inches of solid skull can take a long time.

870 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:01:32am

re: #866 Iron Fist

For starters, Geithner's head should roll.

871 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:01:36am

re: #861 jcm


I have to.. Headed to Prov then redirected to Stevens. But 14 hosp's that couldn't help? 0-:

872 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:01:55am

re: #846 Eowyn2

it all depends on how you define "constitution"


Oh, that old thing?

873 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:02:11am

re: #866 Iron Fist

The Republicans need to grow a pair of balls. If they can't grow them they shoul beg, borrow, or steal a pair. Their silence on how scandle-ridden the Obama Administraion has been in the first two weeks is somewhat embarrassing. Come on, guys and dolls, step up, do your job, and crush your enemy, drive him into the ground, and hear the lamentations of his women.

ATTILA FOR PRESIDENT!

874 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:02:12am

re: #743 jwb7605
Ah, yeah, Charles even had a thread on it!

875 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:02:24am

re: #865 FrogMarch

Overall though, I think the democrats do not understand that they cannot punish the private sector with redistributive tax schemes and call it a "tax cut".
They will ruin our economy.

Um.... too late?

876 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:02:58am

re: #872 Killer Tomato

Oh, that old thing?

Something tells me it will have a whole new meaning by the time BO finishes with it.

877 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:03:28am

re: #865 FrogMarch

Overall though, I think the democrats do not understand that they cannot punish the private sector with redistributive tax schemes and call it a "tax cut".
They will ruin our economy.

yup...in the short term they already have

878 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:03:36am

re: #639 Iron Fist

You'd best read this from October 29, 2008; we, a present, can already be said to be in a state of unilateral nuclear disarmament:

Unless the United States modernizes its inventory of nuclear weapons and develops a replacement warhead, the atomic arsenal’s long-term safety and reliability will deteriorate, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates warned Tuesday.
[...]
He said the current nuclear stockpile has been re-engineered to extend its life span, but such extensions cannot continue indefinitely. Without a modernization program, Gates said, the long-term outlook for the arsenal is “bleak.”
879 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:03:41am

re: #868 Occasional Reader

Hiring a cleaning service is so ... dirty. Better to go the "personal" route, which is so much more humane.

/

880 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:03:54am

re: #748 Occasional Reader
Good morning O.R.! "Can you imagine the Indian retaliation? None of us would ever get customer support for anything, ever again!"
You say that as if that was a bad thing!

881 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:04:16am

re: #869 OldLineTexan

As any ancient Incan could tell you, drilling through ten inches of solid skull can take a long time.

While awaiting their trepaning (sp?) Incan patients could enjoy a frosty Inca Cola.

882 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:04:27am

re: #716 realwest

IF the BEST PILOT MONEY COULD BUY still crash landed and need MY money to help him out, I'd sure as hell hire a different pilot and make the pilot prove his/her worth before paying super biggo bucks!

You should fire him and find someone else.....I agree. But you won't get to 'test drive' execs unless you get some ambitious junior exec who you want to take a risk with.

883 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:04:35am

re: #867 capitalist piglet

Just friendly banter from AllahPundit - Charles addressed it last night.

They're still at it, attacking Allahpundit. The IDers never give up, even when faced with facts that should make their heads spin. I find them to be very much like the moonbats on the left.

884 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:04:41am

Collision Course

Perhaps this was inevitable. ... President Obama and his CENTCOM Commander, General David Petraeus, are on a collision course over Iraq.

CENTCOM commander Gen. David Petraeus, supported by Defence Secretary Robert Gates, tried to convince President Barack Obama that he had to back down from his campaign pledge to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within 16 months at an Oval Office meeting Jan. 21.

But Obama informed Gates, Petraeus and Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen that he wasn't convinced and that he wanted Gates and the military leaders to come back quickly with a detailed 16-month plan, according to two sources who have talked with participants in the meeting.

Petraeus was visibly unhappy when he left the Oval Office, according to one of the sources. A White House staffer present at the meeting was quoted by the source as saying, "Petraeus made the mistake of thinking he was still dealing with George Bush instead of with Barack Obama."

How true.

885 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:04:51am

re: #868 Occasional Reader

I don't know why limit it to "woman"... but I'd say, anyone with half a brain in an elected position in DC can easily avoid this. You want housecleaners? Hire a SERVICE, so that it's purely a contractual relationship. You're not responsible for tax withholding, social security, verifying immigration status, etc.; the company is. So damn easy... I can't believe these idiots keep getting caught on this.

Didn't we go through half-a-dozen "Nannygates" a few years ago? Can't anyone learn from the "mistakes" of others?

886 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:04:57am

Here's a link that fits the times (and more than a couple lizards, including me):
Out of Office: Job Loss in the Age of Blogs and Twitter

(via Townhall.com. I put it in the spinoff links, because it seems relevant)

887 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:05:09am

re: #838 MJ

Recruiter of female bombers speaks out

Says women were raped as first step

[Link: www.buffalonews.com...]

Some Muslims appear to be the only people on earth who offer human sacrifice of their own children while raping their own women.

If you believe, as muslims do, that what is moral is simply whatever your god tells you, and that this life is just a temporary testing ground where you determine your place in eternity, then this sort of thing is to be expected.

888 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:05:30am

re: #874 realwest

Ah, yeah, Charles even had a thread on it!

I should stop sleeping.

889 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:06:21am

re: #884 Kenneth

A White House staffer present at the meeting was quoted by the source as saying, "Petraeus made the mistake of thinking he was still dealing with George Bush an adult instead of with Barack Obama."

fixed

890 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:06:21am

re: #871 Dustoff-507

I have to.. Headed to Prov then redirected to Stevens. But 14 hosp's that couldn't help? 0-:

England, National Health (S)care....

A&E patients left in ambulances for up to FIVE hours 'so trusts can meet government targets'

Seriously ill patients are being kept in ambulances outside hospitals for hours so NHS trusts do not miss Government targets.

Thousands of people a year are having to wait outside accident and emergency departments because trusts will not let them in until they can treat them within four hours, in line with a Labour pledge.

Some bureaucrat decided 4 hours was reasonable, but the clock starts when they come into the ER.

Solution?

Hold in the Ambulance!

FUCKIN' BRILLIANT!

891 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:06:25am

re: #888 jwb7605

I should stop sleeping.

Sleep is overrated anyway.

892 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:06:41am

Radio report, Milwaukee wants money for school budget from the bailouts, yet, everything about their school budget has gone DOWN because they are closing schools, have 8 school unoccupied and so on and so on.

The rape of America.

893 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:06:45am

re: #865 FrogMarch

Overall though, I think the democrats do not understand that they cannot punish the private sector with redistributive tax schemes and call it a "tax cut".

Sorry, but there is nothing in Obama's rhetoric or history that leads me to this conclusion. He can and will do that.

Yes, the economy will suffer as a result, but there is sooooo much money sloshing around right now that the economy will recover eventually. The 'recovery' - at least in the USA - will be kind of anemic, however.

894 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:07:01am

re: #878 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

You'd best read this from October 29, 2008; we, a present, can already be said to be in a state of unilateral nuclear disarmament:

Waste of money any way, The One wants to disarm.

895 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:07:13am

re: #778 Golem Akbar

Of course, anything can still happen before the election.

Anything?!
Do you mean that if Olmert/Livni/Barak send the IDF this week to do a full scale occupation of Gaza and announce that this time they are going to finish off Hamas before they leave, then that could win them enough seats to stay in power?
OY!

896 SteveC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:07:29am

re: #866 Iron Fist

Come on, guys and dolls, step up, do your job, and crush your enemy, drive him into the ground, and hear the lamentations of his women.

And when you are done, demand that they bring their finest wines and cheeses to the victors!

897 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:07:30am

re: #887 Jimmah

If you believe, as muslims do, that what is moral is simply whatever your god imam says your god says, and that this life is just a temporary testing ground where you determine your place in eternity, then this sort of thing is to be expected.

Most Muslims are illiterate, and very few can read the Koran

898 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:07:33am

re: #878 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

You'd best read this from October 29, 2008; we, a present, can already be said to be in a state of unilateral nuclear disarmament:


Interesting. This completely contradicts an article from the Atlantic Monthly from maybe a year and a half ago, which described the US as busily improving its strategic nuclear capabilities, while the Russians and Chinese get increasingly nervous about their limited or decaying capabilities. That article warmed the cockles of my neocon heart. But your link is dismaying.

899 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:07:38am

re: #878 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

You'd best read this from October 29, 2008; we, a present, can already be said to be in a state of unilateral nuclear disarmament:

In another year, we'll be able to buy replacements from Iran.
/

900 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:07:43am

re: #846 Eowyn2

Barney Frank is a disgrace- but our in-the-tank jackass media won't touch him.
Barney Frank was the first domino in our housing crisis. As head of House Financial Services Committee, he should resign in shame. But since democrats are allowed any crime - he won't.

[Link: www.sodahead.com...]

Whatever Barney Frank recommends - we should do the opposite. The man financially inept.

901 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:07:59am
902 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:08:12am

re: #774 shanec99
Good day shanec99 - thanks for that. That's exactly how I am feeling.

903 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:08:19am

re: #886 jwb7605

Here's a link that fits the times (and more than a couple lizards, including me):
Out of Office: Job Loss in the Age of Blogs and Twitter

(via Townhall.com. I put it in the spinoff links, because it seems relevant)

I didn't know you were out of work?

904 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:08:22am

We can all see the Obama's 'leadership' abilities are starting to show.
As is NONE!

905 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:08:52am

re: #889 Killer Tomato

The astounding arrogance of that comment by the white house staffer! Says something about the real attitude prevelant in the Obama admin.

906 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:08:54am

re: #884 Kenneth

Collision Course

Perhaps this was inevitable. ... President Obama and his CENTCOM Commander, General David Petraeus, are on a collision course over Iraq.

How true.

Uh oh.

Obama needs Patraues. We all need him. Sounds like the cerebral college professor is spouting bullshit policy to his commanders.

This will not be good.

907 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:09:08am

re: #880 realwest

Good morning O.R.! "Can you imagine the Indian retaliation? None of us would ever get customer support for anything, ever again!"
You say that as if that was a bad thing!

You mean you don't enjoy talking to "Fred" and "Susan" from Mumbai?

(Actually, I can't say that telephone customer service I've had that was obviously from India, was noticeably worse than its US-based equivalent.)

908 DaddyG  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:09:09am

re: #866 Iron Fist

Come on, guys and dolls, step up, do your job, and crush your enemy, drive him into the ground, and hear the lamentations of his women.


Speaking of the lamentations of their women - Drudge is linking to a Youtube Vid where Nancy Pelosi claims Americans lose 500,000,000 jobs a month.

Perhaps she was confusing the jobless rate with another kind of job popular with the citizens in her district?

909 MJ  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:09:17am

re: #892 Walter L. Newton

Radio report, Milwaukee wants money for school budget from the bailouts, yet, everything about their school budget has gone DOWN because they are closing schools, have 8 school unoccupied and so on and so on.

The rape of America.

Heard on the radio this morning the Gov. Doyle wants to postpone his State of the State address for a few weeks until he learns what's going to be in bailout plans for Wisconsin.

910 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:10:00am

re: #859 realwest

Hi ya Hoops - Well I'm freezing my buns off today, how are you doing?!

I'm doing wonderful Realwest..Didn't your snuggie arrive yet?

911 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:10:03am

re: #890 jcm


Ahhhhhhhh crap. So I take it that all medics are going to become doc's and work on these people in the Medic/Aid units.

912 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:10:12am

re: #778 Golem Akbar

It's a complicated mess, their political system. It's parliamentary (holdover from the English) and not like the two-party system in America. Israel Beiteinu, Shas, and maybe Meretz will unite with Likud and form a majority government, as I have been told. Of course there will be a lot of horse trading, but Netanyahu ought to emerge as the leader.

Of course, anything can still happen before the election.

It should be noted here that the Israeli parliament is not in fact like the British one. British, Canadian, and Australian MPs are elected by districts, so each MP is accountable to a set group of people. Israeli MKs are elected by party list and seats are allocated by proportionality. This forces conformity to the party line and often allows loony parties who in North America would not hold seats in the legislature to have a had in forming coalitions.

913 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:10:17am

re: #892 Walter L. Newton

But Milwaukee has a wonderful cheat-to-win vote program for democrats.
change. Hope.

914 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:10:25am

re: #898 Occasional Reader

The Pentagon wants to upgrade this US nuclear missiles as the old ones are decaying. Obama has put a freeze on it.

915 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:10:50am

re: #909 MJ

Heard on the radio this morning the Gov. Doyle wants to postpone his State of the State address for a few weeks until he learns what's going to be in bailout plans for Wisconsin.

Bread and circuses, where the bread is the bailout, and the circus is in Washington, DC.

916 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:10:53am

re: #903 Walter L. Newton

I didn't know you were out of work?

Big time.
I've noticed all the database jobs are up here (Longmont specifically) and all the hardware/software combo jobs are near the Tech Center.

I "did the math", and driving to and from the Tech Center every day (even if I can find a company who will actually hire a 60 year old) is not really feasible.

917 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:11:27am

re: #906 astronmr20

Uh oh.

Obama needs Patraues. We all need him. Sounds like the cerebral college professor is spouting bullshit policy to his commanders.

This will not be good.

None of this is going to be good.
Give Obama 3-6 months; he'll turn us into France.
Which makes sense, considering he seems to think he's Marie Antoinette.

918 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:11:44am

re: #778 Golem Akbar

It's a complicated mess, their political system. It's parliamentary (holdover from the English) and not like the two-party system in America. Israel Beiteinu, Shas, and maybe Meretz will unite with Likud and form a majority government, as I have been told. Of course there will be a lot of horse trading, but Netanyahu ought to emerge as the leader.

Of course, anything can still happen before the election.

It should be noted here that the Israeli parliament is not in fact like the British one. British, Canadian, and Australian MPs are elected by districts, so each MP is accountable to a set group of people. Israeli MKs are elected by party list and seats are allocated by proportionality. This forces conformity to the party line and often allows loony parties who in North America would not hold seats in the legislature to have a had in forming coalitions.

919 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:11:47am

re: #884 Kenneth

Collision Course

Perhaps this was inevitable. ... President Obama and his CENTCOM Commander, General David Petraeus, are on a collision course over Iraq.

How true.

We pull out in 16 months.

We'll have to go back the hard way.

920 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:11:59am

re: #901 ploome hineni

prostitutes, tax evasion, wide toilet stance

I'd almost admire the politico who could combine all three in a single episode.

(Engages in hey-hey with a hooker in a public restroom, then flushes his 1040 down the toilet, for instance)

921 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:12:05am

re: #908 DaddyG

Speaking of the lamentations of their women - Drudge is linking to a Youtube Vid where Nancy Pelosi claims Americans lose 500,000,000 jobs a month.


[Video] Perhaps she was confusing the jobless rate with another kind of job popular with the citizens in her district?

Dead voters don't have jobs.

922 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:12:18am

re: #884 Kenneth

"But Obama informed Gates, Petraeus and Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen that he wasn't convinced and that he wanted Gates and the military leaders to come back quickly with a detailed 16-month plan, according to two sources who have talked with participants in the meeting."

"Okay, I've seen the plan that will work, now bring me the plan that I want!"

His spoiled child routine is getting real old, real fast.
This is the real world, Obama, get your head out of your ass.

923 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:12:56am

re: #917 Killer Tomato

None of this is going to be good.
Give Obama 3-6 months; he'll turn us into France.
Which makes sense, considering he seems to think he's Marie Antoinette.

When we can't get food because all our corn is going to ethanol production, he'll say "Let them eat arugula."

924 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:13:14am

re: #829 Walter L. Newton

I'm sitting here putting together season ticket packets that were ordered in Jan. Sales are down, I'll tell you.

My NY Mets Season Ticket resales via StubHub and CL are actually going really well... I'm shocked...

925 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:13:16am

re: #906 astronmr20

Uh oh.

Obama needs Patraues. We all need him. Sounds like the cerebral college professor is spouting bullshit policy to his commanders.

This will not be good.

Relatedly - If Obama ignores Petreus's advice and Patreus resigns in protest, then the General will shoot to the top of Reublican field for 2012.....if he wants it, it's his.

926 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:13:19am

re: #720 Peacekeeper

I have a fear that once Obama gets pantsed by Iran or North Korea he will flail around and look for a military response out of spite and a desire to appear tough.

or he could just continue to flail around like he's doing now and do nothing.
maybe flee, giggling, to a grade school again.

927 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:13:47am

re: #921 faraway

Dead voters don't have jobs.

Aren't they pushing up the daisies?

928 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:13:54am

re: #619 Occasional Reader

Too subtle? Damn.

929 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:13:58am

re: #916 jwb7605

Big time.
I've noticed all the database jobs are up here (Longmont specifically) and all the hardware/software combo jobs are near the Tech Center.

I "did the math", and driving to and from the Tech Center every day (even if I can find a company who will actually hire a 60 year old) is not really feasible.

I didn't know you were 60? I don't know anything about you, yet we meet this way everyday, we have shared our good times and our bad times. And when you leave me, I will not even know where to send the slippers that I will find, that will bring all the emotions flooding back in.

930 SteveC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:14:19am

re: #890 jcm

Solution?

Hold in the Ambulance!

FUCKIN' BRILLIANT!

Also, Europeans have a different concept of an ambulance service. The French, for example, stock their ambulances very well and basically consider them "rolling Emergency Rooms". Princess Diana was 20 minutes from the hospital but twice the ambulance pulled over so the medics could administer aid, making the total transport time over an hour. Our philosophy, of course, is stabilize and go... with the emphasis on GO!

So they probably think you are reciving the same level of care in the ambulance as you would be in the ER.

931 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:14:22am

re: #884 Kenneth

Collision Course

Perhaps this was inevitable. ... President Obama and his CENTCOM Commander, General David Petraeus, are on a collision course over Iraq.


How true.

So Obama really is fiercely determined to move Iraq into the "loss" column.

Simply amazing.

932 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:14:41am

re: #926 nyc redneck

or he could just continue to flail around like he's doing now and do nothing.
maybe flee, giggling, to a grade school again.

I picture him curled under the Oval Office desk in the fetal position, sucking his thumb and mewling.

933 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:14:47am

re: #624 Peacekeeper

Oooh, do tell!

934 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:14:53am

re: #906 astronmr20

Uh oh.

Obama needs Patraues. We all need him. Sounds like the cerebral college professor is spouting bullshit policy to his commanders.

This will not be good.

My bet: Obama forces Petraeus out. Petraeus had the temerity to be right when Obama was wrong and Obama is the petulant type who won't forgeet it.

935 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:14:56am

re: #893 DeafDog

Money that will be given to people who didn't pay into the system - Obama calls that a " tax cut". The dems are not talking about cutting capital gains or payroll tax. the "stimulus" bill - is a spending bill that will not help the private sector at all.

936 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:15:11am
937 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:15:27am

re: #894 jcm

Waste of money any way, The One wants to disarm.

And our Congress since 06' has done nothing but help him.

Ever get the feeling we're on a elevator where the only buttons are 'down', 'down faster' and 'down with full boosters'?

938 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:15:57am

re: #908 DaddyG

Speaking of the lamentations of their women - Drudge is linking to a Youtube Vid where Nancy Pelosi claims Americans lose 500,000,000 jobs a month.


[Video]

Perhaps she was confusing the jobless rate with another kind of job popular with the citizens in her district?


I wonder if she knows there are only about 300,000,000 people in the U.S.?

Did every single one of us, man, woman, and baby lose more than one job on average?

939 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:16:15am

re: #926 nyc redneck

or he could just continue to flail around like he's doing now and do nothing.
maybe flee, giggling, to a grade school again.

My Pet Goat II: This Time, It's Personal

940 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:16:36am

re: #916 jwb7605

Big time.
I've noticed all the database jobs are up here (Longmont specifically) and all the hardware/software combo jobs are near the Tech Center.

I "did the math", and driving to and from the Tech Center every day (even if I can find a company who will actually hire a 60 year old) is not really feasible.

I agree with your estimations there. And I come up against the same thing in the opposite direction. And I am not moving to Longmont, that's like living in Kansas, and you can see the mountains but don't have the time to get to them.

941 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:16:42am

re: #934 Dark_Falcon

And by all means, put a shill like Wesley Clark in his place. That'll show the bad guys who's boss.

942 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:16:43am

re: #922 Lincolntf

What would you expect from the One who said "We are the ones we've been waiting for". Gen. Petraus should give this turd the finger and leave, but he loves this country too much to do so. Had I more officers like him in my chain of command I would have stayed in longer than I did.

943 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:16:43am

re: #907 Occasional Reader

You mean you don't enjoy talking to "Fred" and "Susan" from Mumbai?

(Actually, I can't say that telephone customer service I've had that was obviously from India, was noticeably worse than its US-based equivalent.)

The Indian thing is a classic example, to me, of how the world is sobering up. BDS was rampant in India when I was there, right up to the end of the Bush presidency. I watched as only just a few months ago, they eviscerated bush and accused him of screwing up the nuclear deal. It turned out to be all based on a rumor from a leak from a DEMOCRAT. In reality, it was Bush who pushed for this nuclear energy exception for them. A huge enormous gift. I remember reading the papers that week with bold print on the front page "BUSH MISLED."

It wasn't until just a few weeks ago, before the inauguration, that their cable news channels were reiterating that India has enjoyed 8 years of prosperity with Bush and the best relationship ever with the US.

An absolute classic example of "the sobering." They are about to get treated like Israel in the Kashmir situation, and they know full well that the "moral equivalency" card will be shoved in their face over the dispute, despite the fact that Pakistan doesn't even have half of their regions even under government control.

944 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:16:43am

Tax the Rich. come on - do it.

945 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:16:49am

re: #937 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

And our Congress since 06' has done nothing but help him.

Ever get the feeling we're on a elevator where the only buttons are 'down', 'down faster' and 'down with full boosters'?

And the people trying to fix the elevator are taking axes to the cable holding it up.

946 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:16:53am

re: #931 Occasional Reader

So Obama really is fiercely determined to move Iraq into the "loss" column.

Simply amazing.

He will abandon Iraq, screw Israel, appease the Iranians and cause Pakistan to collapse. All hell will break loose.

The media will blame Bush for all of it.

And I'm not joking.

947 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:17:08am

WOW.. that was weird. LGF just stopped and I was kicked?

948 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:17:31am

re: #796 Killer Tomato
With all due respect, if there is no Federal money involved in a company, that measure would be unconstitutional.

949 DaddyG  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:17:37am

re: #938 eschew_obfuscation

I wonder if she knows there are only about 300,000,000 people in the U.S.?

Did every single one of us, man, woman, and baby lose more than one job on average?

Perhaps she's including the members of the Rio Grande seasonal swim team?

950 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:17:45am

Two weeks into Obama.

NorKo ditches all it's agreements.
Iran launches a satellite and slaps Obama's open hand.
China's militarization picks up.
Venezuela holds meetings for a socialist South American alliance.
Kygristan is falling back into the Soviet sphere.
We pull out of Iraq in 16 months regardless of consequences.

And Obama's already tired of the White House.

WE

ARE

SO

FUCKED

951 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:18:30am

re: #947 Dustoff-507

WOW.. that was weird. LGF just stopped and I was kicked?

Are you using Safari, on a PC based machine? If you are, I notice that about 3-4 times a week, and I have not been able to find a pattern.

952 SteveC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:18:32am

re: #932 Killer Tomato

I picture him curled under the Oval Office desk in the fetal position, sucking his thumb and mewling.

That's possible! I remember photos of JFK's children playing under the desk!

953 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:18:46am

re: #925 DeafDog

Relatedly - If Obama ignores Petreus's advice and Patreus resigns in protest, then the General will shoot to the top of Reublican field for 2012.....if he wants it, it's his.

He's not a politician. I know a lot of people in the 101 who served under him. He 's a professional, but has little tolerance for bullshit.

954 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:18:57am

re: #929 Walter L. Newton

I didn't know you were 60? I don't know anything about you, yet we meet this way everyday, we have shared our good times and our bad times. And when you leave me, I will not even know where to send the slippers that I will find, that will bring all the emotions flooding back in.

Yup. Pushing 61 in a serious way (May).

You (I think it was you) made a remark some months ago about programming being a "young man's market". Little did I know how real that phenomena is.

I tried putting in an app at Home Depot and Lowe's, but they aren't hiring, and have released all part time people, as well. I'm not sure what to do next, as unemployment runs out on or before my birthday.

955 Dave the.....  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:18:58am

Some are speculating on what will happen when Obama super fans find out that he isn't The Messiah. That he has skeletons in his closet, and enemies he wants to destroy. Will they turn on him because he really can't walk on water?

956 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:19:14am

re: #935 FrogMarch

Money that will be given to people who didn't pay into the system - Obama calls that a " tax cut". The dems are not talking about cutting capital gains or payroll tax. the "stimulus" bill - is a spending bill that will not help the private sector at all.

No disagreement there.

I just disagree on how much balls the Dems have. Obama calls these welfare payments tax cuts. That's the party line, and they will stick to it - the economy be damned.

Obama's made it clear that his economic theory is that growth comes from sharing, not earning.

957 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:19:14am

re: #950 jcm

Two weeks into Obama.

NorKo ditches all it's agreements.
Iran launches a satellite and slaps Obama's open hand.
China's militarization picks up.
Venezuela holds meetings for a socialist South American alliance.
Kygristan is falling back into the Soviet sphere.
We pull out of Iraq in 16 months regardless of consequences.

And Obama's already tired of the White House.

WE

ARE

SO

FUCKED


Imagine the damage he could do if he wasn't tired yet.

958 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:19:24am

re: #950 jcm

You forgot, US scraps missile defense in Europe, Russia is tickled pink.

959 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:19:29am

re: #950 jcm

And Obama's already tired of the White House.

Just goes to show, you can always find a point of agreement. I'm already tired of him being in the White House, too.

960 jcm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:19:42am

re: #930 SteveC

Also, Europeans have a different concept of an ambulance service. The French, for example, stock their ambulances very well and basically consider them "rolling Emergency Rooms". Princess Diana was 20 minutes from the hospital but twice the ambulance pulled over so the medics could administer aid, making the total transport time over an hour. Our philosophy, of course, is stabilize and go... with the emphasis on GO!

So they probably think you are reciving the same level of care in the ambulance as you would be in the ER.

Diana had a partially transected aorta.

I've saved patients with that injury from farther out.

If she'd crashed in Seattle, I'm guessing 60/40 she would have survived.

961 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:19:43am

re: #626 lawhawk

That linky just got YANKED off the intratubes.

962 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:19:44am

re: #948 realwest

With all due respect, if there is no Federal money involved in a company, that measure would be unconstitutional.

Constitutional?! How old fashioned of you!
////////////

963 SteveC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:19:51am

re: #948 realwest

With all due respect, if there is no Federal money involved in a company, that measure would be unconstitutional.

"Your honor, I'd like to introduce into evidence a contract between Mr. Jones and the BigBadBank..."

964 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:19:52am

re: #950 jcm

It's the new "multilateral world," where the US is just one of the players in a big happy open-handed family.

965 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:20:06am

re: #930 SteveC

Well... Not trying to pick on the Medic units. But there is times we must pull over to give aid. Rocking back a forth is not a good idea when giving shots or to tube
PS. Having been to EU. Their medics and not trained to a high level that we are.

966 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:20:30am

Why does Obama seem to remind me of the political version of A-Rod?

967 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:20:34am

re: #949 DaddyG

Perhaps she's including the members of the Rio Grande seasonal swim team?

LOL! It's Democrat math .... the stuff they teach in school now ;~)

968 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:20:35am

re: #948 realwest

With all due respect, if there is no Federal money involved in a company, that measure would be Obamastitutional.

Better?

969 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:20:54am

re: #946 Kenneth

He will abandon Iraq, screw Israel, appease the Iranians and cause Pakistan to collapse. All hell will break loose.

The media will blame Bush for all of it.

And I'm not joking.

Correct.

Yesterday was a bad day. A really bad day. I couldn't help but think that when the shit really goes down- of how many ways the press and the Democrats will blame it all on Bush.

970 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:21:03am

re: #950 jcm

I think we are not fucked yet, but you can definitely see it from here.

971 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:21:44am

re: #951 Walter L. Newton


NOPE?

972 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:21:45am

re: #931 Occasional Reader

I seem to recall all the time that President Bush always said that he listens to his commanders on the ground... It appears Obama has disdain for those in military service...

973 Eowyn2  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:22:01am

re: #822 Occasional Reader

I actually feel some sympathy for Killefer; her stuff was very small potatoes, and she actually made good long BEFORE there was any serious possibility of a Cabinet position (or even a One presidency), if I'm not mistaken. She basically is getting splattered by the crashing Daschle shitwagon.

But Why did she make good? Was she caught or did she get audited for a different position.

Personally, I dont like the idea of O creating more white house positions. And dont forget Daschle is 'honorable' so the tax fraud shouldnt really count.

/ You keep saying that word, I do not think it means what you think it means

974 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:22:14am

The Vatican gives the finger to the civilized world.....
Georg Ratzinger slams Angela Merkel over criticism

“He doesn’t need me to defend him. But it angers me how unjust and badly informed the people who are attacking him are,” the Regensburg Music Director, 'Domkapellmeister', Georg Ratzinger told German newspaper ‘Leipziger Volkszeitung’. He finds the harsh criticism the Pope has received from people in his native Germany, as well as from the rest of the world, unjust: “We always speak about an informed society, when in reality it is uninformed.”

Georg Ratzinger (85) finds German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s open criticism of the Pope particularly disappointing: “I always saw her as a rational woman. But perhaps at the moment she is under pressure to say something irrational.”

975 capitalist piglet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:22:19am

re: #883 Honorary Yooper

They're still at it, attacking Allahpundit. The IDers never give up, even when faced with facts that should make their heads spin. I find them to be very much like the moonbats on the left.

I think there's been a big Freeper influx there. It's just taken on that tone, which is a shame.

Hard to imagine it without AP; he's incredibly witty, and very smart. Though I don't see it happening, if they somehow manage to drive him away, it will ruin the site.

976 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:22:36am

re: #958 Kenneth

You forgot, US scraps missile defense in Europe, Russia is tickled pink.


WHAT?!

I did not hear this. Link?

977 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:22:38am

re: #953 astronmr20

He's not a politician. I know a lot of people in the 101 who served under him. He 's a professional, but has little tolerance for bullshit.

I have no direct knowledge of the man, but one does not become a full general without having good political instincts. If he wants the 2012 Republican nomination, it's his. Especially if Obama push's him out of Centcom.

978 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:22:40am

re: #973 Eowyn2

Obama has only created one White House position: supine.

979 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:23:04am

re: #956 DeafDog


Obama's made it clear that his economic theory is that growth comes from sharing, not earning.

We can all be community organizers.
/yeah - that will work.

980 SteveC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:23:57am

re: #960 jcm

Diana had a partially transected aorta.

I've saved patients with that injury from farther out.

If she'd crashed in Seattle, I'm guessing 60/40 she would have survived.

It always amazes me, how a car accident at almost any speed sends things flying around the vehicle (including the people).

981 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:24:00am

re: #966 tfc3rid

Why does Obama seem to remind me of the political version of A-Rod?

Ha! Perfect analogy.

982 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:24:04am
983 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:24:12am

re: #974 Killgore Trout

The Vatican gives the finger to the civilized world.....
Georg Ratzinger slams Angela Merkel over criticism

To be fair, that is the Pope's brother, not the Pope himself. Most people will defend their sibling against criticism, even if there is some justice to it.

984 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:24:46am

re: #966 tfc3rid

Why does Obama seem to remind me of the political version of A-Rod?

Bad comparison. A-Rod is only f&cking Madonna. Obama is f&cking the whole free world.

985 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:25:41am

re: #981 DeafDog

Ha! Perfect analogy.

O-Fraud...

986 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:25:47am

re: #984 WriterMom

Bad comparison. A-Rod is only f&cking Madonna. Obama is f&cking the whole free world.

A-Rod also has a killer instinct that Obama lacks.

987 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:25:48am

re: #954 jwb7605

Yup. Pushing 61 in a serious way (May).

You (I think it was you) made a remark some months ago about programming being a "young man's market". Little did I know how real that phenomena is.

I tried putting in an app at Home Depot and Lowe's, but they aren't hiring, and have released all part time people, as well. I'm not sure what to do next, as unemployment runs out on or before my birthday.

I feel your... ok, that sounds to moonbat, but I know what you mean. I have sent out over 2300 emails since 2006, some of that back and forth correspondence, and that generated 11 months of actual work in the last 3 or so years. Some of that work was over 50 dollars an hour, so I bank it when I could.

Of course, now I work at the theatre, for 18 thousand a year. That salary pays my bills and I am not starving, and of course I have some cable and broadband, so I am not cut off from the world in my hovel.

And I do that off and on work for Kaiser, from home, which generated 4 grand last year.

It's working, but, I would rather have a full time programming job, with some benefits, instead of picking up everything piecemeal like I do.

The big problem I never even get an initial phone call from any of these folks, I've sent out over 70 resumes since Dec. 2008 and only have had ONE call. ANd I don't apply for jobs that I am not highly qualified for.

988 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:25:49am

re: #972 tfc3rid

It appears Obama has disdain for those in military service...

Ya think?

989 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:25:49am

re: #980 SteveC

Yeah, seatbelts REALLY do work. (-:

990 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:25:52am

re: #895 Spare O'Lake

Anything?!
Do you mean that if Olmert/Livni/Barak send the IDF this week to do a full scale occupation of Gaza and announce that this time they are going to finish off Hamas before they leave, then that could win them enough seats to stay in power?
OY!

And the Messiah could also come...

991 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:25:54am

re: #923 Kosh's Shadow

When we can't get food because all our corn is going to ethanol production, he'll say "Let them eat arugula."

I don't know; didn't That One observe the prices were going up?

“Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?” the senator said. “I mean, they’re charging a lot of money for this stuff.”

From the NY Times, so take it with a grain of seasalt.

992 Desert Dog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:25:59am

re: #984 WriterMom

Bad comparison. A-Rod is only f&cking Madonna. Obama is f&cking the whole free world.

Yes, but he's doing it with such style, panache and coolness

993 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:26:18am

re: #948 realwest

With all due respect, if there is no Federal money involved in a company, that measure would be unconstitutional.

If this article is correct, and they are even considering such a measure, it's extremely disturbing news, whether or not it would survive a court challenge.

994 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:26:36am

re: #984 WriterMom

Bad comparison. A-Rod is only f&cking Madonna. Obama is f&cking the whole free world.


Having a couple of MVP's under his belt also gives A-Rod some accomplishments which takes him out of Obama's league.

995 Kragar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:26:56am

So San Fran Nan actually said "500 million Americans loose their jobs every month" since we arent passing the Socialism Bill?

996 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:27:23am

re: #851 Dustoff-507
Hey there! How are you doing today my friend?

997 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:27:34am

re: #995 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

500 million Americans loose their jobs


AAAAIIIIEEEEEEE!

998 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:27:36am

re: #983 Dark_Falcon
His brother's statement about Merkel being uninformed makes me wonder about his Holocaust views. At the very least it's insulting.
Looks like the Vatican is yielding a little bit....
Vatican: Holocaust denier must recant

The Vatican on Wednesday demanded that a prelate who denied the Holocaust recant his positions before being fully admitted as a bishop into the Roman Catholic Church.
999 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:27:45am

re: #994 soxfan4life

Having a couple of MVP's under his belt also gives A-Rod some accomplishments which takes him out of Obama's league.

Don't forget - people willingly pay to see A-Rod do his thing; with Barry, you've got to pay for the ticket whether you like the show or not.

1000 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:27:54am

re: #986 Dark_Falcon

But who has better glistening pecs?

/VOMIT

1001 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:28:01am

re: #966 tfc3rid

Why does Obama seem to remind me of the political version of A-Rod?

or madonna

1002 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:28:04am

re: #944 FrogMarch

Tax the Rich. come on - do it.

hilarious link within - not to be missed.
Celebrities, like kids born to wealth, almost HAVE to be liberal. TOO. MUCH. POODLE. GUILT

1003 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:28:13am
1004 SteveC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:28:13am

re: #990 Golem Akbar

And the Messiah could also come...

He's here already, in the White House! Where ya been?

1005 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:28:23am

re: #997 Occasional Reader

Irregardless of typos, calm down!

1006 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:28:29am

re: #996 realwest

Not bad buddy. You enjoy the video I sent you?

1007 Dave the.....  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:29:00am

The more I hear about new laws, the more I think we are really f*cked. Examples:

If I get a gov't contract, I can't use my own employees, I have to hire the losers who screwed up the old contract.

If I own a small business, it is now illegal to post a sign in my own building that says "You are free to work here without belonging to a union".

If I own an antique store, and sell a 100 year old toy soldier to a collector, which he will display in a case, he or the gov't then can turnaround and sue me for selling something with lead in it.

If I purchase a 100 year old company, and this company sold something with lead in it in 1935, I could get sued today.

1008 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:29:08am

re: #995 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

So San Fran Nan actually said "500 million Americans loose their jobs every month" since we arent passing the Socialism Bill?

That's a LOT of Americans....

1009 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:29:23am

re: #1003 astronmr20

When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an Al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry,” Cheney said.

Protecting the country’s security is “a tough, mean, dirty, nasty business,” he said. “These are evil people. And we’re not going to win this fight by turning the other cheek.”

GAAAAAAAAA

1010 phil flavin  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:29:31am

re: #995 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

So San Fran Nan actually said "500 million Americans loose their jobs every month" since we arent passing the Socialism Bill?


I knew times were tough, but GEEZE! 500 million a month? Why,.....that seems almost,......impossible! The MSM should check into that!

1011 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:29:33am

re: #796 Killer Tomato

Do these people even attempt to understand the concept of "private property"?

(rhetorical question)

1012 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:29:34am

the Pope is not a Holocaust denier, the Vatican is not giving the finger to the civilized world....jeez

1013 MJ  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:30:40am

re: #974 Killgore Trout

The Vatican gives the finger to the civilized world.....
Georg Ratzinger slams Angela Merkel over criticism


Vatican: Holocaust denier must recant

By NICOLE WINFIELD
Associated Press Writer

The Vatican demanded Wednesday that a bishop who denied the Holocaust recant his positions before being fully admitted into the Roman Catholic Church....


The Vatican also said in a statement that Pope Benedict XVI didn't know about Bishop Richard Williamson's views when he agreed to lift his excommunication and that of three other ultraconservative bishops Jan. 21...


[Link: www.buffalonews.com...]

At least some progress on this issue though it's obviously damage control. On the other hand, if the Pope didn't know about the bishops views, then what else doesn't he know about?

1014 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:30:44am

re: #972 tfc3rid

I seem to recall all the time that President Bush always said that he listens to his commanders on the ground... It appears Obama has disdain for those in military service...

Only if they wear an American military uniform. He's fine with the Iranians, Koreans and Russians.

1015 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:30:46am

re: #995 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

So San Fran Nan actually said "500 million Americans loose their jobs every month" since we arent passing the Socialism Bill?

She's probably been getting her numbers from Marion Barry (who famously claimed that over 100% of the servicemen killed in Vietnam were black)>

1016 capitalist piglet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:30:55am

re: #992 Desert Dog

Yes, but he's doing it with such style, panache and coolness

Just ask him.

1017 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:30:56am

re: #982 FrogMarch

Wisconsin: Vote Fraud Capital of the Midwest

just thinking back to Nov.

This blogger needs to go 90 miles south to Cook County. The Cheeseheads are pikers by comparison.

1018 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:31:35am

re: #1009 WriterMom

GAAAAAAAAA

Yup. Cheney spoke the truth and really let him have it.

1019 formercorpsman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:31:58am

re: #930 SteveC

Can't image a brain or belly in the back of the ambulance.

1020 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:32:00am

re: #1003 astronmr20

Cheney on Obama.


Wow.


I may be old-fashioned, but I do think Cheney ought to not criticize Obama. Leave that to others. Both Bush and Cheney ought to make positive statements and leave the bashing to others, unlike Carter and Clinton [*spit*].

1021 Dave the.....  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:32:07am
I just disagree on how much balls the Dems have. Obama calls these welfare payments tax cuts. That's the party line, and they will stick to it - the economy be damned.

One interesting thing I've noticed this week....with Bush (and most all other Republicans) gone, it's harder for Democrats to defend bad policies. There are more people then I would have thought out there, who really do know what is going on. For the past 8 years, if Bush as for something, they were against it. If Bush opposed something, they were for it.

Now that the whole show is run by Democrats, people are starting to have second thoughts about really bad policies. Now they have a stake in it, other then just attacking Bush.

1022 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:32:19am

re: #998 Killgore Trout

The Vatican is not "yielding." They were never obdurate.

1023 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:32:30am
1024 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:32:32am

My response to Dick Cheney's assessment of O-Fraud's Administration...

F**king-A!

1025 SteveC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:32:57am

REALWEST -

Any snow in your area today? We had a dusting, not as much as last time, but it was colder and the roads are slick.

1026 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:33:07am

re: #1020 Golem Akbar

I may be old-fashioned, but I do think Cheney ought to not criticize Obama. Leave that to others. Both Bush and Cheney ought to make positive statements and leave the bashing to others, unlike Carter and Clinton [*spit*].

Eh.. Fuck it.

No one else is telling it like it is. We're talking about the safety of this country and the security of the free world.

Good on Cheney. Let the Pissant in Chief have it.

1027 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:33:36am

re: #1019 formercorpsman

Can't image a brain or belly in the back of the ambulance.


I hope their there? Where would you expect to find them? LOL

Morning doc, how ya doing.

1028 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:34:15am

re: #1023 Iron Fist

If the Republicans can't sustain a filibuster on Holder (with as much baggage as he's bringing along with him),

You mean like his laminated "always remember to carry racial resentment with you" wallet card?

1029 MJ  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:34:31am

re: #1017 Honorary Yooper

This blogger needs to go 90 miles south to Cook County. The Cheeseheads are pikers by comparison.

I spent my first 40 years in Cook County and have lived in Madison for the last 20 or so.
There is absolutely no way Wisconsin comes close to Cook County. There's no comparison.

1030 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:34:32am

re: #1017 Honorary Yooper

This blogger needs to go 90 miles south to Cook County. The Cheeseheads are pikers by comparison.

True. All bow down before the Combine.

1031 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:34:50am

re: #1012 phoenixgirl

the Pope is not a Holocaust denier, the Vatican is not giving the finger to the civilized world....jeez

Thank you for yesterday, BTW. I didn't know the Pope's cousin was murdered by the nazis.

1032 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:34:55am

re: #925 DeafDog

Relatedly - If Obama ignores Petreus's advice and Patreus resigns in protest, then the General will shoot to the top of Reublican field for 2012.....if he wants it, it's his.

maybe...screwing around with Petreus is gonna be a bad vibe for BO antway you cut it....he's a rook

1033 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:35:31am

re: #1026 astronmr20

Eh.. Fuck it.

No one else is telling it like it is. We're talking about the safety of this country and the security of the free world.

Good on Cheney. Let the Pissant in Chief have it.

We've got some real smart people who will be listened to. I'd rather have the ex-Presidents take the high road. Carter is the example of a bad ex-president gone worse.

1034 tfc3rid  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:35:52am

re: #1023 Iron Fist

Holder was sworn in yesterday...

Too late.

1035 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:36:15am

re: #1010 phil flavin


Imagine how many poor illegals must be losing jobs monthly as well. And we all know how Fancy Nancy worries about the plight of the illegals.

1036 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:36:23am

re: #1021 Dave the.....

One interesting thing I've noticed this week....with Bush (and most all other Republicans) gone, it's harder for Democrats to defend bad policies. There are more people then I would have thought out there, who really do know what is going on. For the past 8 years, if Bush as for something, they were against it. If Bush opposed something, they were for it.

Now that the whole show is run by Democrats, people are starting to have second thoughts about really bad policies. Now they have a stake in it, other then just attacking Bush.

So who's selling the "got buyer's remorse?" bumperstickers?

1037 SteveC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:36:32am

FOX - Car explosion injures the driver, a doctor. Those who know such things say it was probably some type of malfunction.

1038 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:37:04am

re: #1033 Golem Akbar

We've got some real smart people who will be listened to. I'd rather have the ex-Presidents take the high road. Carter is the example of a bad ex-president gone worse.

None of them will be listened to. If something goes awry and there are any of us left, at least we can say "we told them so!"

1039 Dave the.....  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:37:10am

I almost respect the crooks in Cook county more because they just want to make money illegally. Madison is full of left wing wacko's who are truly evil. Not just greedy.

1040 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:37:11am

re: #1030 FrogMarch

True. All bow down before the Combine.

At least we have John Kass. It's a damn shame Mike Royko is no longer with us.

1041 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:37:14am

Take heed President Obama:

Saudi Arabia has issued a list of its most wanted terrorists. 85 terrorists made the list. 11 are former Gitmo detainees.

Still want to close the detention facility?

1042 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:37:43am

re: #1029 MJ

I spent my first 40 years in Cook County and have lived in Madison for the last 20 or so.
There is absolutely no way Wisconsin comes close to Cook County. There's no comparison.

No, there isn't. Having lived in Cook County my whole life, I have to say that there is no place in the Midwest as corrupt. Despite that, I love Chicago still. It has enough good in it to keep me from turning against it.

1043 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:37:49am

re: #1031 Sharmuta

Thank you for yesterday, BTW. I didn't know the Pope's cousin was murdered by the nazis.

you are welcome.

1044 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:37:58am

re: #1023 Iron Fist

Too late. He was confirmed and sworn in yesterday.

1045 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:38:12am

re: #1036 Killer Tomato

So who's selling the "got buyer's remorse?" bumperstickers?

I'd say the odds are already starting to look very good for the GOP in 2010, assuming that 1) they can field some decent candidates, and 2) our voting system has not been utterly corrupted by then.

1046 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:38:38am

re: #1045 Occasional Reader

I'd say the odds are already starting to look very good for the GOP in 2010, assuming that 1) they can field some decent candidates, and 2) our voting system has not been utterly corrupted by then.

That's a lot of if's, kemosabe.

1047 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:39:50am

re: #1045 Occasional Reader

our voting system has not been utterly corrupted by then.


And THAT has been my biggest fear right along.

1048 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:40:05am

re: #1041 lawhawk

Take heed President Obama:

Saudi Arabia has issued a list of its most wanted terrorists. 85 terrorists made the list. 11 are former Gitmo detainees.

Still want to close the detention facility?

Do not interrupt The One with facts! His Luminous Presence will Change reality, if only we have Hope!

/spits

1049 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:40:21am

re: #1045 Occasional Reader

I'd say the odds are already starting to look very good for the GOP in 2010, assuming that 1) they can field some decent candidates, and 2) our voting system has not been utterly corrupted by then.

3) And Obama's worldview doesn't cause us to have a major attack happening in this country.

1050 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:40:25am

re: #1046 astronmr20

That's a lot of if's, kemosabe.

If you can keep your head
while all about you
are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
then you obviously don't understand
the seriousness of the situation

--"If", by Rudyard Kipling, edited by my dad

1051 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:40:53am

re: #1003 astronmr20

I'm eagerly awaiting his first book. I hope that after he does a memoir or two, he starts to write commentaries on current events, kind of like Nixon did.

1052 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:41:06am

re: #1005 WriterMom

Irregardless of typos, calm down!

As long as we are on pet peeves.....what's with using "irregardless" instead of "regardless"?

1053 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:41:06am

re: #1050 Occasional Reader

If you can keep your head
while all about you
are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
then you obviously don't understand
the seriousness of the situation

--"If", by Rudyard Kipling, edited by my dad

LOL!

1054 SteveC  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:41:49am

re: #1048 Dark_Falcon

Do not interrupt The One with facts! His Luminous Presence will Change reality, if only we have Hope!

/spits

We're getting a low reading from the Hopeometer. Someone check the tank, I think there is a hole in it.

1055 Dave the.....  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:41:51am

Killer T, it as pretty easy to spend 8 years attacking President Bush on a daily basis. Now these people are saying "holy f*ck, if we screw up, we can't blame it on anyone else."

Know what's fun, going on discussion boards (such as your local newspaper), and posting something about King Barry cranking the heat in the White House up to 80 degrees, and dining on $100 a pound steak, while Applachian-Americans are suffering and freezing. It's fun baiting the left into going nuts.

1056 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:42:28am

re: #1054 SteveC

We're getting a low reading from the Hopeometer. Someone check the tank, I think there is a hole in it.

recalibrate the meter...problem solved

1057 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:43:30am

re: #976 Occasional Reader

Russia 'suspends Kaliningrad missile plan'

Medvedev had said in November he was ordering the deployment of Iskander missile systems to Kaliningrad, which borders European Union members Poland and Lithuania, in response to Washington's plan for a missile shield in Europe.

"The implementation of these plans has been halted in connection with the fact that the new US administration is not rushing through plans to deploy" elements of its missile defence shield in eastern Europe, Interfax quoted an unnamed official in the Russian military's general staff as saying.

There was no immediate confirmation from the Russian military that the Iskander deployment was being suspended.

The issue is likely to be on the agenda if, as expected, Medvedev and Obama meet on April 2 on the sidelines of a Group of 20 summit in London.

"It (the suspension of missile deployment) is a signal to Obama of Moscow's goodwill," Yevgeny Volk, an analyst in Moscow with the Heritage Foundation think tank, told Reuters.

"In response they want a decision not to deploy the missile defence shield in eastern Europe."

Expected quid-pro-quo. Obama doesn't have to pull the system out, just quietly slow down & the stop deployment.

1058 formercorpsman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:43:42am

re: #1027 Dustoff-507

Funny you ask, dealing with the DOL.

Government at its finest.

1059 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:43:57am

re: #1012 phoenixgirl

pg-there will be a lot of pain associated with the topic no matter what people's spin is. We all just need to stay cool.

1060 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:44:02am

new thread ----->

1061 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:44:05am

Hamas police 'seize aid for Gaza'

Hamas policemen have seized thousands of blankets and food parcels that were meant to be distributed to Palestinian civilians in Gaza, UN officials say.

A UN spokesman said policemen raided a UN warehouse on Tuesday after officials refused to hand over the aid to a Hamas-controlled ministry.
....
The Hamas Social Affairs Minister in Gaza, Ahmed al-Kurd, denied that members of the Islamist movement had removed aid from a UN building.

However, he said his ministry was in dispute with the UN relief agency about how aid should be distributed.

He accused the UN of giving aid to local groups with ties to Hamas opponents.

1062 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:44:16am

when it gets too hot in the white house, the president leaves.......can't stand the heat

1063 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:44:44am

re: #1059 WriterMom

pg-there will be a lot of pain associated with the topic no matter what people's spin is. We all just need to stay cool.

yep

1064 Dave the.....  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:45:08am

Here's Republicans problem. By 2010, at least 51 percent of WORKING Americans will pay no taxes. We have more people working for the gov't then in manufacturing. Unions will be confiscating large dollars to use for political purposes.

The Republican base.....those who work hard and want nothing free, will be a minority in this country. The freeloaders will make up over 51%.

1065 Dustoff-507  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:46:39am

re: #1058 formercorpsman
The best MONEY can buy. )-:

1066 avanti  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:46:55am

re: #1020 Golem Akbar

I may be old-fashioned, but I do think Cheney ought to not criticize Obama. Leave that to others. Both Bush and Cheney ought to make positive statements and leave the bashing to others, unlike Carter and Clinton [*spit*].

He must think the election is closer and needs to instill the built-in fear of a weak left by the right. I personally blame Cheney for many of the failures of the Bush administration Now, he seems to be trying to fire up what's left of his neo-cons.

1067 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:47:07am

re: #1041 lawhawk

Take heed President Obama:

Saudi Arabia has issued a list of its most wanted terrorists. 85 terrorists made the list. 11 are former Gitmo detainees.

Still want to close the detention facility?

To be fair, Obama said they paln to keep the bad guys imprisoned,... umm... somewhere... maybe some of them sent home, or not.., and that there will be proper trials for them, ...although he didn't say where or how... he back-peddled on whether they will be granted habeus corpus...or not

You see, it's a very solid well thought out policy.

1068 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:47:40am

re: #987 Walter L. Newton

I feel your... ok, that sounds to moonbat, but I know what you mean. I have sent out over 2300 emails since 2006, some of that back and forth correspondence, and that generated 11 months of actual work in the last 3 or so years. Some of that work was over 50 dollars an hour, so I bank it when I could.

Of course, now I work at the theatre, for 18 thousand a year. That salary pays my bills and I am not starving, and of course I have some cable and broadband, so I am not cut off from the world in my hovel.

And I do that off and on work for Kaiser, from home, which generated 4 grand last year.

It's working, but, I would rather have a full time programming job, with some benefits, instead of picking up everything piecemeal like I do.

The big problem I never even get an initial phone call from any of these folks, I've sent out over 70 resumes since Dec. 2008 and only have had ONE call. ANd I don't apply for jobs that I am not highly qualified for.

I send out an average of 3 a day.
I've actually had about 10 phone calls from recruiters since Christmas, but it doesn't look like anything is panning out.

The worse the economy gets, the more competition there seems to be, and the cheaper anybody is willing to work for.

I'd be quite happy with anything over 50K, at this point.
If you want to see my resume, click my nic, and follow the links.

I'm really good, but unlike Sally Fields, they really hate me out there.
I feel more like Rodney Dangerfield most days.

1069 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:47:47am

re: #947 Dustoff-507
Huh. Are you suggesting that Charles' tastes in commenters has improved?!
;')

1070 godfrey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:48:01am

re: #1064 Dave the.....

So the strategy should be to say, rightly, "you're owned, sucka."

1071 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:49:05am

re: #1033 Golem Akbar

We've got some real smart people who will be listened to. I'd rather have the ex-Presidents take the high road. Carter is the example of a bad ex-president gone worse.

i understand what you are saying abt. the dignity of the office but right now we need all the level headed thinkers we have putting out the facts. and it can be done by taking the high road.
cheney has so much experience and common sense, i hope he keeps speaking up.
in fact, i think he needs own radio talk show.

1072 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:50:15am

re: #950 jcm Well I hope that all the Repulicans who didn't vote for McCain because he wasn't "conservative enough" are happy now.

1073 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:50:53am
1074 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:51:23am

re: #955 Dave the.....
Are you kidding? He'd better learn how to swim - FAST!

1075 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:51:24am

re: #1052 DeafDog

As long as we are on pet peeves.....what's with using "irregardless" instead of "regardless"?

She was just picking on OR ... irregardless is one of his pet peeves.

1076 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:51:34am

re: #1066 avanti

He must think the election is closer and needs to instill the built-in fear of a weak left by the right. I personally blame Cheney for many of the failures of the Bush administration Now, he seems to be trying to fire up what's left of his neo-cons.

All right, a round of Kool Aid for everybody, avanti's buying! Drink up, folks!

1077 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:51:47am

re: #1072 realwest

Well I hope that all the Repulicans who didn't vote for McCain because he wasn't "conservative enough" are happy now.

You're missing Mandy's strongly worded adjective!
:)

1078 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:54:08am

re: #972 tfc3rid
Now wait a second my friend - remember Obama once thought about joining the military!

1079 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:54:39am

re: #1068 jwb7605

I send out an average of 3 a day.
I've actually had about 10 phone calls from recruiters since Christmas, but it doesn't look like anything is panning out.

The worse the economy gets, the more competition there seems to be, and the cheaper anybody is willing to work for.

I'd be quite happy with anything over 50K, at this point.
If you want to see my resume, click my nic, and follow the links.

I'm really good, but unlike Sally Fields, they really hate me out there.
I feel more like Rodney Dangerfield most days.

re: #1066 avanti

He must think the election is closer and needs to instill the built-in fear of a weak left by the right. I personally blame Cheney for many of the failures of the Bush administration Now, he seems to be trying to fire up what's left of his neo-cons.

Since I can live on 18 thou a year, I have a lot of wiggle room, and it's still not helping.

My areas of expertise is Oracle programmer (Forms, Reports, PL/SQL - NOT A DBA or Oracle off the shelf product expert. although I am aware of the structure of their 10g products database), Access and Visual FoxPro (Fox pro is a dbase language platform which I have been working with since 1981).

1080 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:56:54am

I guess they don't watch a lot of Swedish TV at the Vatican.

Maybe not the Pope himself, but others around him probably knew the full story but just miscalculated the depth of international reaction.
Even if by some miracle the Vatican didn't know Williamson's holocaust views before lifting the ex-communication, they shouldn't try to use that now as an excuse for a gross lack of due diligence.

The obvious (to me) solution is and remains for the Vatican to immediately announce that while these folks will be readmitted to the Church as ordinary members, no holocaust-denying anti-semitic pieces of shit will be allowed to hold high offices within the Church so long as they hold such views.

1081 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:58:03am

re: #1068 jwb7605

Saw you resume. Yes, heavy on the hardware side. I have no hardware side (well, I can set up networks, throw cables, build boxes, that kind of hardware stuff).

You have the same problem I do, they see two three entries on the resume, they KNOW you are OLD. Period. And now a days, for what ever stupid assed reason, your history is of no use to them.

Can't figure it.

1082 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:59:49am
1083 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:01:31am

re: #1079 Walter L. Newton

Since I can live on 18 thou a year, I have a lot of wiggle room, and it's still not helping.

My areas of expertise is Oracle programmer (Forms, Reports, PL/SQL - NOT A DBA or Oracle off the shelf product expert. although I am aware of the structure of their 10g products database), Access and Visual FoxPro (Fox pro is a dbase language platform which I have been working with since 1981).

The 'owner' of this site sent out this message to his e-mail subscribers:

With our current economic crisis, we must adjust to the market conditions until the time when they improve. As such, I am available to work on project programming and consultation. Please contact me off-list if you have any such needs.

Thank you.


I have a licensed copy of his AVR compiler, and considered getting his HC12 compiler.
Both are very good products, and recommended by the respective chip manufacturers.

Getting tough out there.

1084 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:03:30am

re: #1081 Walter L. Newton

Saw you resume. Yes, heavy on the hardware side. I have no hardware side (well, I can set up networks, throw cables, build boxes, that kind of hardware stuff).

You have the same problem I do, they see two three entries on the resume, they KNOW you are OLD. Period. And now a days, for what ever stupid assed reason, your history is of no use to them.

Can't figure it.

Which is strange, because I was "required" to detail stuff before my last job (which lasted 20 years).
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Employers also want to know about military experience. Checking the "Vietnam Era" box is a dead giveaway.

1085 avanti  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:05:54am

re: #1036 Killer Tomato

So who's selling the "got buyer's remorse?" bumperstickers?

May I comment from outside the political bubble we all tend to live in ? I only see the buyers remorse comments mostly from those that did not "buy" Obama in the beginning.
In my little bubble, we are mostly pleased so far, in yours, we're going to hell in a hand cart. It's important to look at how the county feels overall and not just see it from the right or left. If his popularity starts to tank from both sides, then break out those stickers, No matter how much either side disagrees with a decision, the other may cheer it.

1086 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:12:32am

re: #993 Occasional Reader
Well shit, O.R. - what hasn't been disturbing news out of the Obama administration? A Treasury Secretary who was either a tax cheat or too stupid to do HIS OWN taxes? A Chief of Staff who "gamed" and apparently still is gaming the law concerning housing and taxes? A proposed Cabinet Member who had to withdraw his nomination (Daschle) because he cheated on his taxes? A "specialist" in programming evaluations or whatever the hell Ms. Keiler was supposed to do who forgot to pay taxes OR social security for her maid? An "open hand" to Iran on the 30th anniversary of their taking over OUR EMBASSY in Teheran? Appoitment of M.E. "diplomats" who have a track record of being anti-Israel? Barely a mention of Iraqi's having their second successful election? Slapping General Petraeus? Proposing to close Gitmo - but not knowing where the hell to send the detainees? A "stimulus package" that is, according to Sen. McCain, "80% Pork and 20% stimulus"? Hell it'd be easier and LOT SHORTER to list his accomplishments in the two weeks that he's been POTUS. ONE: Left White House cause he needed some breathing room. Negative is he apparently returned. Eric Holder of the Marc Rich pardon hall of shame? Charlie Rangle ongoing tax cheat Al Frankin tax cheat,Hillary ClintonSecState accepting foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation
Arne Duncan (ED) CAC and Ayers.
Shaun Donovan (HUD) ACORN.

1087 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:16:16am

re: #1025 SteveC
Hey SteveC - yeah we had 2-3 inches overnight!

1088 Pyrocles  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:17:51am

Cheney speaking "truth to power".

re: #1003 astronmr20

Cheney on Obama.

Wow.

1089 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:20:27am

re: #1077 jwb7605
Huh? You mean Mandy said the same thing before this?

1090 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:21:38am
1091 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:24:22am

re: #1085 avanti
Please see my #1086. Folks who voted for him are now expressing doubts - nearly half the country (from Gallup poll published yesterday, no link you'll have to google) don't think Obama is gonna get us out of this economic recession and more people are afraid of a WMD attack on the US than were before the election.
YOUR side of the aisle better hire some sanitation crews and quickly, too!

1092 jwb7605  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:24:38am

re: #1090 ploome hineni

if you really need an income, and are not finding a job

find stuff to sell on ebay

I know people making lots of money selling things they buy at yard sales

Thanks! That's next.

1093 avanti  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:34:43am

re: #1092 jwb7605

Thanks! That's next.

EBay has been my full time job for the last 4 years.

1094 avanti  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:39:04am

re: #1091 realwest

Please see my #1086. Folks who voted for him are now expressing doubts - nearly half the country (from Gallup poll published yesterday, no link you'll have to google) don't think Obama is gonna get us out of this economic recession and more people are afraid of a WMD attack on the US than were before the election.
YOUR side of the aisle better hire some sanitation crews and quickly, too!

Read the poll here and scroll down to support by party.

poll

1095 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 10:01:36am
1096 realwest  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 10:03:07am

re: #1094 avanti
Yutz - those are generalized questions and are not asked about the specific individuals named above, was taken before Daschle, Keiler(sp?) withdrew their nominations because of tax fraud, was before Eric Holder (of the Marc Rich pardon) was confirmed and a host of other specific matters which you and other folks out here on LGF are aware - including the "clenched fist" and the launching of the Iranian satellite, the Norks losing what mind(s) they had and the like.
And the reason the majority of the American People don't feel the way most of us out here do is because the MSM hasn't told them about most of the shit I've mentioned here - which is in addition to the shit I mentioned in #1086.
I'm glad, albeit mystified, that you're happy with Obama's performance to date.

1097 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 10:18:19am
1098 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 11:39:28am

re: #1086 realwest

Okay, but other than that, The One is doing a bang-up job.

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