When I view all beings not as special creations, but as the lineal descendants of some few beings which lived long before the first bed of the Cambrian system was deposited, they seem to me to become ennobled.
— Charles Darwin
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:24:10pm |
Video Bentley chase, close to ending at: http://media.myfoxla.com/live/2/
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jcm Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:24:29pm |
Darwin, hey I've heard of him!
Isn't he a monkey's uncle or something?
/////
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Sharmuta Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:25:30pm |
It's deeply moving to me, personally, to know all of Life is tied together, related. We are all a part of something larger, and magnificent, and awesome, and humbling.
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:25:42pm |
re: #2 jcm
Darwin, hey I've heard of him!
Isn't he a monkey's uncle or something?/////
Josiah Wedgwood's grandson.
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jcm Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:25:45pm |
re: #1 gmsc
Video Bentley chase, close to ending at: http://media.myfoxla.com/live/2/
I heard it was high jacked by a starlette in trouble Reese something or other.
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:26:26pm |
re: #5 jcm
I heard it was high jacked by a starlette in trouble Reese something or other.
...and that she stabbed someone.
(That part's important)
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:27:20pm |
When I view all beings not as special creations, but as the lineal descendants of some few beings which lived long before the first bed of the Cambrian system was deposited, they seem to me to become ennobled.— Charles Darwin
They seem to me to become fossilized.
(It took me 5 comments on the last thread to realize I was talking to myself.)
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MrPaulRevere Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:27:25pm |
re: #3 Sharmuta
Very noble sentiment. However the notion that Helen Thomas and I have a common ancestor is troubling indeed.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:28:05pm |
re: #8 MrPaulRevere
Very noble sentiment. However the notion that Helen Thomas and I have a common ancestor is troubling indeed.
Hell, cave mates at least.
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jcm Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:28:29pm |
re: #7 Walter L. Newton
They seem to me to become fossilized.
(It took me 5 comments on the last thread to realize I was talking to myself.)
I once had the first 9 comments on a thread with 10 comments.
Charles deleted the whole thread.....
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jcm Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:29:05pm |
re: #8 MrPaulRevere
Very noble sentiment. However the notion that Helen Thomas and I have a common ancestor is troubling indeed.
Aliens, I blame aliens.......
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:29:07pm |
re: #10 jcm
I once had the first 9 comments on a thread with 10 comments.
Charles deleted the whole thread.....
But I loved seeing all the green, and my name highlighted. I love the spotlight.
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Sharmuta Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:29:55pm |
re: #8 MrPaulRevere
Very noble sentiment. However the notion that Helen Thomas and I have a common ancestor is troubling indeed.
Helen Thomas for you, Bill Clinton for me.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:30:16pm |
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jcm Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:30:27pm |
re: #12 Walter L. Newton
But I loved seeing all the green, and my name highlighted. I love the spotlight.
Well you are a thespian....
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:31:06pm |
re: #14 Pvt Bin Jammin
NBC doesn't think it's a celebrity.
One dollar that it will end in cuffs at 1:45 AM LOL
You could've stopped that post after the first 3 words, and it would still be true.
;)
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:31:10pm |
re: #10 jcm
I once had the first 9 comments on a thread with 10 comments.
Charles deleted the whole thread.....
what an intelligent design!
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MrPaulRevere Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:31:33pm |
re: #11 jcm
She is revolting, referring to 'so called terrorists' and equating Israel and Iran. Its a good thing I wasn't around for the press conference thread.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:32:00pm |
re: #16 jcm
Well you are a thespian....
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Barrymore once said "I am jealous of the audience. They are the ones who have the pleasure of watching me up here."
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jcm Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:32:10pm |
re: #14 Pvt Bin Jammin
NBC doesn't think it's a celebrity.
One dollar that it will end in cuffs at 1:45 AM LOL
Does CA believe in the PIT maneuver? They seem to let these drag on forever.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:32:16pm |
re: #5 jcm
I heard it was high jacked by a starlette in trouble Reese something or other.
Witherspoon?
/white smoke
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jcm Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:32:44pm |
re: #20 Walter L. Newton
Barrymore once said "I am jealous of the audience. They are the ones who have the pleasure of watching me up here."
Great Line!
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:32:59pm |
re: #21 jcm
Does CA believe in the PIT maneuver? They seem to let these drag on forever.
it's "Sweeps Week".......
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SummerSong Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:33:14pm |
Since this driver is still inside the car...they might take off again.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:33:55pm |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:34:25pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:35:00pm |
re: #27 FurryOldGuyJeans
But I'm also related to Sophia Loren, and Raquel Welsh, so That evens the score.
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:35:31pm |
re: #29 redc1c4
just down the road a short piece from my place.
Great - this guy has probably tried Red's fruitcup. This won't be pretty.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:36:17pm |
re: #21 jcm
Does CA believe in the PIT maneuver? They seem to let these drag on forever.
Don't they, though? Seriously, they are stopped and I am betting they are going to bring in the "psychological team" which is why I am going for 1:45 AM and it will probably be later than that if any of you all want to bet a dollar. LOL
It's off TV now and we have Jay Leno.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:36:23pm |
re: #30 Sharmuta
But I'm also related to Sophia Loren, and Raquel Welsh, so That evens the score.
I find you more intriguing. You have a brain, of that I am sure, and you know how to use it. ;)
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Neutral President Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:36:23pm |
re: #8 MrPaulRevere
Very noble sentiment. However the notion that Helen Thomas and I have a common ancestor is troubling indeed.
The way she talks reminds me of Aunt Bethany from Christmas Vacation.
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Catttt Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:37:02pm |
re: #22 redc1c4
Witherspoon?
/white smoke
I think that was a play on words - knife - witherspoon....
Ms. Wtherspoon is NOT a starlet! She is an actress - and a lady.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:37:38pm |
re: #29 redc1c4
Can you go check it out to see what happens.!?/
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:37:45pm |
re: #21 jcm
Does CA believe in the PIT maneuver? They seem to let these drag on forever.
They were talking about the use of the PIT earlier. They don't know whether this is armed, and the last thing you want in that circumstance is to have such a person facing you directly.
They suggested their first course of action would be spike strips.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:38:21pm |
re: #37 Catttt
I think that was a play on words - knife - witherspoon....
Ms. Wtherspoon is NOT a starlet! She is an actress - and a lady.
no? really?
/ / / /
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MrPaulRevere Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:38:26pm |
re: #35 ArchangelMichael
That's a classic clip, the actress even looks like her.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:39:20pm |
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:39:23pm |
re: #39 Pvt Bin Jammin
Can you go check it out to see what happens.!?/
i've algebra class first thing in the AM.... i'm going to bed shortly
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:39:56pm |
re: #44 Walter L. Newton
Shit, that scared Maisey off her perch. She was sleeping. It really neat how they can hit the bottom of the cage and climb right back up to her perch. They are really flexible.
What scared Maisey off her perch? What? WHAT?
;)
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zombie Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:40:18pm |
Happy 200th Birthday, Charles Darwin!
You changed the world forever with your brilliant theory explaining the mechanism of evolution.
And happy random day in your life, Charles Johnson!
You may save "conservatism" in the future by helping to ostracize pseudo-science from the self-defeating Republican Party.
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jcm Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:40:55pm |
re: #44 Walter L. Newton
Shit, that scared Maisey off her perch. She was sleeping. It really neat how they can hit the bottom of the cage and climb right back up to her perch. They are really flexible.
Sorry, Maisey!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:41:34pm |
re: #47 zombie
Happy 200th Birthday, Charles Darwin!
You changed the world forever with your brilliant theory explaining the mechanism of evolution.
And happy random day in your life, Charles Johnson!
You may save "conservatism" in the future by helping to ostracize pseudo-science from the self-defeating Republican Party.
Too bad they couldn't be more like self-sealing stem bolts.
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redc1c4 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:42:19pm |
that's it: i'm for bed, and maybe the teacher will show up this time....
helluva a way to start the semester, by blowing off the first class.
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jcm Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:42:57pm |
re: #40 gmsc
They were talking about the use of the PIT earlier. They don't know whether this is armed, and the last thing you want in that circumstance is to have such a person facing you directly.
They suggested their first course of action would be spike strips.
If the chase isn't insane, just waiting may be better.
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:44:40pm |
re: #47 zombie
Happy 200th Birthday, Charles Darwin!
You changed the world forever with your brilliant theory explaining the mechanism of evolution.
And happy random day in your life, Charles Johnson!
You may save "conservatism" in the future by helping to ostracize pseudo-science from the self-defeating Republican Party.
Here in Vegas, February 10th reminds us of the MGM (now Bally's) fire that killed 8 and injured 198 back on this day in 1981.
Another interesting February 10th event - Adolf Hitler gave his first speech after becoming "Reichskanzler" on this date in 1933.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:45:52pm |
re: #45 redc1c4
i've algebra class first thing in the AM.... i'm going to bed shortly
Bless your heart, Red. I was such an Algebra dummy, you would not even believe it. I kind of caught on to Geometry. If I ever need a tutor, I'll look you up.
Nite. All the best tomorrow.
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zombie Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:45:53pm |
re: #53 gmsc
Here in Vegas, February 10th reminds us of the MGM (now Bally's) fire that killed 8 and injured 198 back on this day in 1981.
Another interesting February 10th event - Adolf Hitler gave his first speech after becoming "Reichskanzler" on this date in 1933.
Luckily, Darwin (and Lincoln) was born on February 9 (both in 1809).
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:46:38pm |
re: #53 gmsc
Here in Vegas, February 10th reminds us of the
MGM (now Bally's)Las Vegas Hilton fire that killed 8 and injured 198 back on this day in 1981.Another interesting February 10th event - Adolf Hitler gave his first speech after becoming "Reichskanzler" on this date in 1933.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:46:56pm |
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Catttt Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:47:03pm |
re: #42 redc1c4
no? really?
/ / / /
Yes, said Catttt, as she sipped tea with her pinkie claw in the air.
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zombie Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:47:12pm |
re: #56 Pvt Bin Jammin
Bless your heart, Red. I was such an Algebra dummy, you would not even believe it.
All you need to know is x = x . Everything else is just is rephrasing of that one basic equation.
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Neutral President Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:48:36pm |
re: #57 zombie
Wasn't Lincoln born on February 12th?
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capitalist piglet Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:51:00pm |
Does anybody know when we can expect to hear something about the Israeli election?
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:52:22pm |
re: #26 gmsc
According to Google Maps, traffic at this intersection is "slow" right now.
Yeah, I bet.
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zombie Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:52:31pm |
re: #62 ArchangelMichael
Wasn't Lincoln born on February 12th?
D'oh! I was fixated on the "1809" part of the date, and got temporarily bamboozled. They were both born on Feb. 12, 1809, OF COURSE!
Well, due to my humiliating blunder, at least I was the first to wish them both a happy birthday! Beat everyone by three days!
/whew. Saved my cookies that time.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:53:11pm |
re: #61 zombie
I was the weirod student. I could get the answer but had trouble showing the work. The last day of school this witchy teacher we had gave her college final to us for "fun" (not to me). She announced that one of the students came close and it was me (the class dumbell). She called me to the board and I had trouble repeating what I just did. LOL Geometry just made more sense to this dummy.
I found the so cal chase again. The Bentley is still at a standstill.
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zombie Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:54:15pm |
I just got out of jail, so I lost track of what day it was. The concept of "time" becomes blurry in solitary confinement.
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:54:54pm |
re: #68 zombie
I just got out of jail, so I lost track of what day it was. The concept of "time" becomes blurry in solitary confinement.
Just got out of jail, Gracie?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:56:17pm |
re: #68 zombie
I just got out of jail, so I lost track of what day it was. The concept of "time" becomes blurry in solitary confinement.
OMG are you serious. Were you hanging out in Berkeley with the weirods?
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gmsc Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:57:27pm |
re: #71 gmsc
Hmmm . . . the sound just dropped out on the car chase.
Reloading brought the sound back.
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zombie Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:58:34pm |
re: #67 Pvt Bin Jammin
I was the weirod student. I could get the answer but had trouble showing the work. The last day of school this witchy teacher we had gave her college final to us for "fun" (not to me). She announced that one of the students came close and it was me (the class dumbell). She called me to the board and I had trouble repeating what I just did.
That was exactly the way I was in language class. I could translate whole paragraphs of very difficult text at a glance, just sight-reading -- but when called upon to define any individual word, or to explain the grammar, i didn't have the slightest clue. I just had the odd ability to "grok" the overall sense without knowing any of the specifics -- very similar to your "skill" at algebra.
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Neutral President Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:59:02pm |
re: #68 zombie
"I ran outta gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from outta town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood, locusts."
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:59:23pm |
LMAO @ this car chase.
This guy HAS to be Armenian or Persian.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Feb 9, 2009 11:59:35pm |
re: #76 TheMatrix31
LMAO @ this car chase.
This guy HAS to be Armenian or Persian.
BTW, I'm Armenian.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:00:48am |
re: #76 TheMatrix31
LMAO @ this car chase.
This guy HAS to be Armenian or Persian.
This is boring.
/trow the flash bangs and get on with it
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:00:54am |
re: #71 gmsc
The car chase is going to go on all night. They are bringing the psychologists fore sure. I am changing my one dollar bet to 5:45 AM for the cuffs. Got to clean it up in time for rush hour.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:01:08am |
The news team has shut down, and now we're listening only to the helicopter crew.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:01:39am |
re: #68 zombie
I just got out of jail, so I lost track of what day it was. The concept of "time" becomes blurry in solitary confinement.
There was no sarc tag? Really?
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zombie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:01:42am |
re: #69 gmsc
re: #70 Sharmuta
re: #72 Pvt Bin Jammin
OMG are you serious. Were you hanging out in Berkeley with the weirods?
Nah. I was just fishing around for a viable justification for my forgetting what day it was. I have been totally out of the loop for five days (check my comment history -- nada, didn't even have internet access). Where I was felt like jail, at least.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:02:14am |
re: #74 zombie
We were probably smart and didn't realize it.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:02:15am |
re: #79 Killian Bundy
This is boring.
/trow the flash bangs and get on with it
You'd think a car chase in Univeral City, taking place right outside Universal Studios, would have better production values.
;)
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zombie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:03:23am |
re: #76 TheMatrix31
LMAO @ this car chase.
This guy HAS to be Armenian or Persian.
As the L.A.lizards can tell you, there is now an Armenian TV station in Los Angeles. And yes, it looks Armenian, too. Lotta bell pants and five-o'clock shadows.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:04:10am |
re: #83 zombie
Gotcha. I was concerned for a bit. More of a selfish, "Great, now we don't get the 'zombie' insights.' as opposed to, 'Boy I hope Zombie is O.K.'....
/
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:05:06am |
re: #87 zombie
As the L.A.lizards can tell you, there is now an Armenian TV station in Los Angeles. And yes, it looks Armenian, too. Lotta bell pants and five-o'clock shadows.
Heh, Zombie. My parents watch some ridiculous Armenian soap opera every night. It's not even in our own dialect of Armenian, so it drives me freakin' crazy.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:05:22am |
Judging by that last gulp, the helicopter pilot is either getting sleepy or his muscles are tightening up.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:05:48am |
re: #83 zombie
I can't take it when I can't get online. Might as well be in jail.
Glad you are back. I had some huge computer problems where my dsl would drop off, lasted two weeks. It stopped as quickly as it started but drove me nuts. I am thinking, now, that it was my ATT.
Nite, Zombie, and the lizards. I have a long day tomorrow.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:06:17am |
re: #91 Pvt Bin Jammin
I can't take it when I can't get online. Might as well be in jail.
Glad you are back. I had some huge computer problems where my dsl would drop off, lasted two weeks. It stopped as quickly as it started but drove me nuts. I am thinking, now, that it was my ATT.
Nite, Zombie, and the lizards. I have a long day tomorrow.
Night.
And also, later all.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:06:44am |
re: #90 gmsc
Judging by that last gulp, the helicopter pilot is either getting sleepy or his muscles are tightening up.
It's sleepy.
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zombie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:06:53am |
re: #89 TheMatrix31
Heh, Zombie. My parents watch some ridiculous Armenian soap opera every night. It's not even in our own dialect of Armenian, so it drives me freakin' crazy.
Do they live in L.A.? Or are they watching it broadcast from actual Armenia?
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:07:13am |
re: #83 zombie
Been there, so I can relate. Once I was roughing it in the sticks for a few days, came home, went to bed, woke up in the morning and Florida was being leveled by Hurricane Andrew. I thought, "Damn! Where the hell did that come from? Where have I been?" when I realized, I was out of the loop for days on end. Harder to get back in the loop than it is to fall out of it.
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:08:00am |
A police officer came upon a terrible wreck where the driver and passenger had been killed.
As he looked upon the wreckage a little monkey came out of the brush and hopped around the crashed car. The officer looked down at the monkey and said "I wish you could talk."
The monkey looked up at the officer and shook his head up and down.
"You can understand what I'm saying?" asked the officer.
Again, the monkey shook his head up and down.
"Well, did you see this?"
"Yes," motioned the monkey.
"What happened?"
The monkey pretended to have a can in his hand and turned it up by his mouth.
"They were drinking?" asked the officer.
"Yes."
"What else?"
The monkey pinched his fingers together and held them to his mouth.
"They were smoking marijuana?"
"Yes."
"Now wait, you're saying your owners were drinking and smoking before they wrecked."
"Yes."
"What were you doing during all this?"
"Driving" motioned the monkey.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:08:12am |
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zombie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:08:59am |
re: #95 Sharmuta
Unfortunately,I just learned that Obama is still president. Damn. I was hoping it was all just a bad dream.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:09:01am |
re: #94 zombie
Do they live in L.A.? Or are they watching it broadcast from actual Armenia?
We all live in LA, and aren't Armenians from Armenia. Chances are, if you hear something bad about Armenians, it's probably the Armenians from Armenia.
As for the broadcasted soap opera, I'm pretty sure it's filmed over there but I have no idea. I can't stay in the room long enough to ask any questions.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:09:57am |
A few weeks back at the local library I ran across an interesting book that tied together history, microbiology, ecology, jurisprudence, theology and epidemiology, entitled Justinian's Flea - The First Great Plague and The End of the Roman Empire. A couple of paragraphs on pages 203/4, dealing with the science of understanding about the bacterium Y. pestis that causes bubonic plague, stood out for me since they dealt directly with something constantly being mentioned here at lgf:
Both advocates of Darwinian selection and their opponents are prone to cite the most benign adaptations as support for their respective positions. Favorite examples of the creationist side -- those why style themselves proponents of intelligent design or ID -- are must attracted to such complex structures as the human eye or the falcon's wing, adaptations whose intermediate forms seem to confer no real evolutionary advantage, and therefore have been created ex nihilo. The bacterial equivalent, among ID proponents, is the remarkable organic motor that the tiny organisms use as a propulsive device, the flagellum.
One of the leading lights of ID, Michael Behe, regularly cites the flagellum, a collection of more than forty separate parts including a rotor, bearings, and a spiral-shaped "propeller" that hooks onto one of the outer rings. The engine for the propeller is, like everything invented by bacteria, a triumph of physical chemistry: When a positively charged proton moves across the bacterial membrane, the charge causes the ring to turn, which in turn spins the propeller at speeds of up to 15,000 rpm. Because -- in the view of ID, anyway -- the flagellum's components are only useful as a propulsion device once all the pieces are present, it is a challenge to natural selection; a propeller without an engine, or a bearing to turn, is just so much protein. The "irreducible complexity" of the flagellum, goes this theory, is unmistakable evidence of a designing intelligence.
The weakness -- one is tempted to write "irreducible weakness" -- of intelligent design is the assumption that the component parts of the flagellum (or the eye, or wing) have always had only a single purpose, a purpose that can only be fulfilled with a complement of other parts. One can only wonder what ID makes of the Type III secretion system, a sort of multiple launch artillery system found on the outside of the Y. pestis cell membrane, since the same proton pump that drives the flagella in motile bacteria also serves as the delivery system that the bacterium uses to batter down the walls that protect their victims...and both pumps share a common ancestor.
That bacteria in general, and Y. pestis in particular, have developed such a sophisticated siege engine, using the same parts that can be used to build an outboard motor, is actually testimony to the power of natural selection rather than design.
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:10:02am |
re: #8 MrPaulRevere
Very noble sentiment. However the notion that Helen Thomas and I have a common ancestor is troubling indeed.
No relation. Helen Thomas' evolved directly from Dictyostelium discoideum.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:10:42am |
My apologies if this came up before, but how insecure does 0bama have to be to stack the deck even more in his favor by issuing White House press credentials to Ed Schultz and a 'reporter' from the Huffington Post?
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:13:23am |
re: #99 zombie
Unfortunately,I just learned that Obama is still president. Damn. I was hoping it was all just a bad dream.
This is worse than a bad dream, because eventually you do wake up.
This is more like a prolonged and freaky acid trip.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:13:53am |
There's some crosstalk on the helicopter's radio frequency.
Probably one of those independent guys with a camera in his car that listens to all the radio and news reports to get footage.
What is with the flashlight at the helicopter?
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zombie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:13:59am |
re: #100 TheMatrix31
As for the broadcasted soap opera, I'm pretty sure it's filmed over there but I have no idea. I can't stay in the room long enough to ask any questions.
Yeah, I was wondering where that station got all its programming. I was curious if there was a full-fledged Armenian-language TV studio on Hollywood Blvd., with a whole sub-culture of Armenian actors amidst the "regular" Hollywood crowd -- or were the shows all imported?
One of life's great mysteries.
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tokyobk Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:14:16am |
Hey, everyone is picking on the Huffington Post but you can learn really neat things over there. Today I learned from "former congressional speechwriter and Obama campaign worker" John Santore that Hamas and Hizbullah are not really just terrorist organizations because they have "terrorist" and "humanitarian" wings.
/yes, sarc
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:14:39am |
re: #102 HelloDare
No relation. Helen Thomas' evolved directly from Dictyostelium discoideum.
And here I would have guessed it was Yersinia pestis.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:14:59am |
re: #107 zombie
Yeah, I was wondering where that station got all its programming. I was curious if there was a full-fledged Armenian-language TV studio on Hollywood Blvd., with a whole sub-culture of Armenian actors amidst the "regular" Hollywood crowd -- or were the shows all imported?
One of life's great mysteries.
They probably all stink anyway. Literally AND figuratively.
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:15:15am |
re: #103 Fenway_Nation
My apologies if this came up before, but how insecure does 0bama have to be to stack the deck even more in his favor by issuing White House press credentials to Ed Schultz and a 'reporter' from the Huffington Post?
That was Ed Schultz! He's a maniac. Didn't know that was Ed Schultz. I made a joke a few threads back about Obama taking a question from The Weather Underground. This is nuts.
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:16:14am |
re: #109 FurryOldGuyJeans
And here I would have guessed it was Yersinia pestis.
I know what that is without looking it up. Bubonic Plague, right?
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:16:25am |
re: #108 tokyobk
Hey, everyone is picking on the Huffington Post but you can learn really neat things over there. Today I learned from "former congressional speechwriter and Obama campaign worker" John Santore that Hamas and Hizbullah are not really just terrorist organizations because they have "terrorist" and "humanitarian" wings.
/yes, sarc
Kinda like the 'military' and 'humanitarian' wings of Pablo Escobar's Medellin cartel?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:17:12am |
re: #112 HelloDare
I know what that is without looking it up. Bubonic Plague, right?
If you know what it is without looking, why are you asking what it is? ;)
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MrPaulRevere Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:18:00am |
Was that not a first when he called on The Huffington Post reporter? I cant recall any President calling on on a 'reporter' from a web only venue.
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logboy Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:18:13am |
re: #103 Fenway_Nation
My apologies if this came up before, but how insecure does 0bama have to be to stack the deck even more in his favor by issuing White House press credentials to Ed Schultz and a 'reporter' from the Huffington Post?
Obama is a thin skinned pussy. Nothing less, nothing more. If he had spent some time in the military like Bush and McCain and less time hanging out with guys bombing the Pentagon maybe he would have some intestinal fortitude. He is by far the most thin-skinned pansy to serve during my lifetime. Its no wonder Russia, Iran, and North Korea are starting to walk all over him.
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tokyobk Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:19:33am |
re: #113 Fenway_Nation
I wish people who hated Israel would just admit it as their starting premise instead of just making things up.
At HuffPo, nobody assumes that America supports Israel out of ideological kinship. Its naturally the Zionist Lobby controlling American politicians. A veritable madhouse.
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logboy Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:20:04am |
re: #115 MrPaulRevere
Was that not a first when he called on The Huffington Post reporter? I cant recall any President calling on on a 'reporter' from a web only venue.
They were all prearranged questions and reporters. Heard that on the radio from an advisor.
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:20:19am |
re: #114 FurryOldGuyJeans
Wasn't sure. I always thought it would make a great name for a character in a novel. I have it written down somewhere along with a couple other names. Can't remember them now but I'd probably remember them if I saw them again.
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:20:30am |
re: #115 MrPaulRevere
The best joke of the night about that was (paraphrasing)
"Mandy Manners LGF
President 0bama- do you think republicans who voted for you instead of John McCain are fucking happy now?"
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MrPaulRevere Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:21:43am |
re: #118 logboy
Did Jennifer Loven have her knee pads on?
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zombie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:21:52am |
re: #101 FurryOldGuyJeans
Another good example of that is the lung. Early ID proponents claimed the mammalian lung was irreduceably complex, and the oxygenation of blood couldn't have co-evolved with a lung system bit by bit, since the circulatory suystem and the lung system would have to emerge fully formed to be of any use to each other
But then, of course, it was discovered that the early lung was originally a "flotation bladder" organ used by primitive proto-fish to stay afloat and to go up and down in the water -- it had nothing to do with oxygenizing the blood, at first. But little by little, this "side effect" become predominant and allowed the creatures to get oxygen from the air, as opposed from the water -- voila, we get land creatures.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:21:52am |
Go to [Link: www.abc7.com...] for a live stream of this standoff.
At one point, this guy had a gun to his head.
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:24:18am |
Zombie,
I posted this a couple threads back. What do you think?
Thought experiment:
There's a 180-foot tall sculpture of Charles Darwin in a sandstone cliff.
Would creationists blow it up?
(I was prompted to amended it to be American non-Muslim creationists.)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:24:20am |
re: #122 zombie
Preaching to the choir, Zombie. I just found it interesting in a book about history and epidemiology that there was a quick side-route into ID for a few paragraphs.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:24:56am |
re: #117 tokyobk
I wish people who hated Israel would just admit it as their starting premise instead of just making things up.
At HuffPo, nobody assumes that America supports Israel out of ideological kinship. Its naturally the Zionist Lobby controlling American politicians. A veritable madhouse.
I thought it was those eeeevil Christian zealots who had a hard-on for the end of the world by rounding up the world's jews into one geographically compact, easy-to-nuke nation-state.
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Winslow Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:25:44am |
When I view all beings not as special creations, but as the lineal descendants of some few beings which lived long before the first bed of the Cambrian system was deposited, they seem to me to become ennobled.— Charles Darwin
"A lineal descent ennobles the generalest being."
- Jebediah Darwin
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logboy Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:27:19am |
re: #121 MrPaulRevere
Did Jennifer Loven have her knee pads on?
No but Donald Trump did. I swear every time the guy is asked a question about anything political he does two things:
1. Takes a swipe at Bush for being "a terrible President with no brains".
2. Praises Obama to no end for being the savior to our poor country.
I can't tell who wants to give Obama a blow job worse. Donald Trump or Chris Matthews?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:28:26am |
re: #129 logboy
I think the two will have a slappy fight to see who gets to service O first.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:28:39am |
re: #118 logboy
I'm not surprised to hear that. What's the fucking problem, juggy? Afraid Chrissy Matthews and Keith 0lberdouche might break with tradition and ask a difficult question of you?
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:29:01am |
re: #129 logboy
No but Donald Trump did. I swear every time the guy is asked a question about anything political he does two things:
1. Takes a swipe at Bush for being "a terrible President with no brains".
2. Praises Obama to no end for being the savior to our poor country.I can't tell who wants to give Obama a blow job worse. Donald Trump or Chris Matthews?
Tough to decide. I suggest a Blow Off.
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zombie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:29:46am |
re: #125 HelloDare
Sorry, I'm really bad at predicting people's behavior.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:30:03am |
re: #131 Fenway_Nation
As bad as he is at giving prepared answers to prearranged questions, the man is totally FUBARed when going off teleprompter.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:30:33am |
re: #123 TheMatrix31
Go to [Link: www.abc7.com...] for a live stream of this standoff.
At one point, this guy had a gun to his head.
Thanks for the new link - the helicopter-only one was getting dull.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:32:39am |
By the way, anyone here remember the bogus Talon News 'scandal' a few years ago?
Wonder how come that was such a big deal in 2005, but HuffPo being represented in the White House press pool will probably get hardly a mention outside of the blogosphere?
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anduril3019 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:33:00am |
You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilizations — these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub, and exploit — immortal horrors or everlasting splendours.
— C.S. Lewis
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:33:06am |
The police are saying this is not a person of significance.
Of course, that doesn't eliminate Congressional democrats.
;)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:35:22am |
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:35:26am |
re: #140 gmsc
The police are saying this is not a person of significance.
Of course, that doesn't eliminate Congressional democrats.
;)
Bentley with Illinois plates, wondering if Blago is accounted for?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:36:35am |
re: #146 ploome hineni
the relationship was consensual
/shaddup
Make me!
/ I wield a mean cane and wicked walker.
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BakaRanger Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:36:41am |
Is the guy in the car Tom Daschel's driver?
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:37:04am |
I'm going to feel really bad if Reese Witherspoon winds up being involved in this somehow.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:37:30am |
re: #149 gmsc
I'm going to feel really bad if Reese Witherspoon winds up being involved in this somehow.
And yet what about the knife?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:38:05am |
LMAO Illinois license plates....
ITS BLAGO!
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:38:48am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:38:51am |
re: #151 ploome hineni
/who looks for a date on Craigslist?
Two lizards that I know of. Walter, who you should know, and a new lizardette.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:39:39am |
re: #153 ploome hineni
lol
let me plugin the pacemaker
/then you better watchit
Oh, so THAT is the way it is, eh? Time for my arthritis meds, then! ;)
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:40:47am |
re: #156 Dustyvet
If only...:)
if only if only
the wood pecker sighs
the bark on the trees was as soft as
the sky . . .
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:40:57am |
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:41:43am |
"They see me parkin',
They hatin',
Because they all think I'm parkin' dirty . . ."
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:41:46am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:43:15am |
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MrPaulRevere Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:44:48am |
re: #8 MrPaulRevere
Helen Thomas is so old she refers to the Battle of Hastings as the 'big one'.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:44:53am |
re: #168 ploome hineni
although, I why should I be surprised?
a blog is like a city bus...anything can get on
/now I need my anxiety medication
You're right, I got on.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:46:24am |
re: #169 MrPaulRevere
Helen Thomas is so old- she had Jesus sign her high school yearbook.
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:46:31am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:47:18am |
re: #173 Fenway_Nation
Helen Thomas is so old- she had Jesus sign her high school yearbook.
Nah, she was best buds with Khufu.
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Mel Lono Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:48:01am |
Lawyers for Fairey acknowledged that the artist used the photograph. But they said he transformed the literal depiction into a "stunning, abstracted and idealized visual image that creates powerful new meaning and conveys a radically different message."
I stumbled upon this one. Must remember to use it in a sentence sometime.
Obama's Image
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:49:08am |
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:49:43am |
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:50:32am |
She's so old, she remembers the day the rocks had finally cooled.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:50:48am |
This is like the OJ chase a little.
Initially, there was some confusion. The police were ordered to look for a slow-moving Bronco, so they were all looking for John Elway.
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:50:52am |
Helen Thomas is so old, she's receding at nearly the speed of light.
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:51:24am |
re: #186 Sharmuta
She's so old, she remembers the day the rocks had finally cooled.
She has the original rock.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:51:24am |
re: #184 Dustyvet
She crossed the Alps with Hannibal...
How else was Hannibal going to get them elephants over the Alps. They were trying to hide from her.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:52:15am |
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:54:51am |
re: #192 Fenway_Nation
Tsk tsk. There was no sound from the big bang. But a funny quip nonetheless.
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BignJames Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:56:07am |
re: #196 Sharmuta
Tsk tsk. There was no sound from the big bang. But a funny quip nonetheless.
Maybe not in this dimension.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:56:12am |
re: #192 Fenway_Nation
Her ears are still ringing from the Big Bang....
/That's how old Helen Thomas is
The part they don't tell you about in the Bible: Before god created the universe, Helen Thomas asked some pointed questions about the project.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:56:54am |
Apparently they stormed the vehicle. Stream came back for like, two minutes.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:57:28am |
If the Cult of Obama couldn't get any worse along comes the NYTimes with many women dream of having sex with Obama.
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:57:53am |
re: #190 FurryOldGuyJeans
How else was Hannibal going to get them elephants over the Alps. They were trying to hide from her.
Atilla's wife came to the front of the tent as he left for the wars, waved and blew him a kiss, and said bye Hun...:)
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:57:53am |
re: #198 gmsc
The part they don't tell you about in the Bible: Before god created the universe, Helen Thomas asked some pointed questions about the project.
"Are you going to give Israel the bomb"?
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BignJames Tue, Feb 10, 2009 12:59:18am |
re: #201 FurryOldGuyJeans
If the Cult of Obama couldn't get any worse along comes the NYTimes with many women dream of having sex with Obama.
Some women dream of having sex with convicts....or so I've heard.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:00:03am |
re: #202 Dustyvet
Atilla's wife came to the front of the tent as he left for the wars, waved and blew him a kiss, and said bye Hun...:)
Considering that Attila died while celebrating his wedding to his latest wife, if she had been Helen wouldn't you have offed yourself?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:00:49am |
re: #199 Sharmuta
Helen Thomas IS the missing link.
Yeah, but for which speicies? I definitely don't want her in my gene pool. It's shallow enough as it is.
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:00:58am |
re: #201 FurryOldGuyJeans
If the Cult of Obama couldn't get any worse along comes the NYTimes with many women dream of having sex with Obama.
The author wrote "Perfect Madness: Motherhood in the Age of Anxiety" Hey, keep your madness to yourself.
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:01:01am |
re: #206 FurryOldGuyJeans
Considering that Attila died while celebrating his wedding to his latest wife, if she had been Helen wouldn't you have offed yourself?
Suicide by elephant?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:01:07am |
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:01:23am |
re: #208 BlueCanuck
Yeah, but for which speicies? I definitely don't want her in my gene pool. It's shallow enough as it is.
Three Toed Sloth?
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:01:51am |
re: #211 FurryOldGuyJeans
Fucking insane and depressing, ain't it?
I was going to go with insane and creepy.
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BignJames Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:02:10am |
re: #211 FurryOldGuyJeans
Maybe they think they can change him.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:03:03am |
re: #210 Dustyvet
Suicide by elephant?
One accounts says chronic nosebleed while another says stabbed by one of his wives.
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:03:40am |
The Seattle Police received a 911 call about a man seen trying to siphon gas from a parked motorhome. Police arrived at the scene to find an ill man curled up next to a motorhome near a pool of spilled sewage. A police spokesman said that the man admitted to trying to steal gasoline but apparently had put his siphon hose into
the motor home’s blackwater (sewage) tank by mistake. The owner of the vehicle declined to press charges, as justice had been duly served.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:03:44am |
Everyone is milling about, and the ambulance has brought the stretcher out.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:04:05am |
re: #219 gmsc
Everyone is milling about, and the ambulance has brought the stretcher out.
This is from: http://media.myfoxla.com/live/2/
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:05:05am |
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:05:32am |
For all my surviving friends out there.
It’s funny how the worm turns.
Here’s why…………
According to today’s regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, or even maybe the early 70’s probably shouldn’t have survived.
Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, […]
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:06:18am |
OK, the ambulance drivers aren't working on the guy, and they don't seem to be in any rush.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:06:43am |
re: #222 gmsc
Why'd she pick his nose.
Remember, you can pick your friends and pick your nose. But you can't pick your friends nose.
/ducks and covers.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:07:24am |
re: #225 Dustyvet
For all my surviving friends out there.
It’s funny how the worm turns.
Here’s why…………
According to today’s regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, or even maybe the early 70’s probably shouldn’t have survived.
Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, […]
I was a preemie that was adopted. I really shouldn't have survived since I was an unwanted clump of cells.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:08:39am |
re: #227 BlueCanuck
Remember, you can pick your friends and pick your nose. But you can't pick your friends nose.
/ducks and covers.
But did you pick your feet in Poughkeepsie?
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Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:09:35am |
Morning night Lizards.
A father asked his 10 year old son if he knew about the birds and the bees.
"I don't want to know!" the child said, bursting into tears. "Promise me
you won't tell me."
Confused, the father asked what was wrong.
“Oh dad," the boy sobbed, "when I was 6 I got the' There's no Santa'
speech. At 7, I got the 'There's no Easter Bunny' speech. When I was 8, you
hit me with the 'There's no tooth fairy' speech. If you tell me that
grown-ups don't really shag each other, I'll have nothing left to live for."
| 232 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:09:37am |
re: #230 FurryOldGuyJeans
But did you pick your feet in Poughkeepsie?
Nah, they weren't the right size or fit.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:10:13am |
He's been loaded into the ambulance, and the ambulance is still sitting there.
I'd say there double checking that he's died, but are pretty sure nonetheless.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:10:54am |
re: #234 gmsc
He's been loaded into the ambulance, and the ambulance is still sitting there.
I'd say there double checking that he's died, but are pretty sure nonetheless.
Franco, eh?
| 238 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:11:39am |
Fascinating Biology Facts ...
The largest cell in the human body is the female egg and the smallest is
the male sperm.
It takes the food seven seconds to get from your mouth to your stomach.
One human hair can support 3 kg (6 lb).
The average man's penis is three times the length of his thumb.
Human thighbones are 20x stronger than concrete.
A woman's heart beats faster than a man's.
There are about one trillion bacteria on each of your feet.
Women blink twice as o ften as men.
The average person's skin weighs twice as much as the brain.
Your body uses 300 muscles to balance itself when you are standing still.
If saliva cannot dissolve something, you cannot taste it.
Men who read this are probably still busy checking their thumb.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:12:12am |
Looks like they're clearing the car, seeing what they can find.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:13:39am |
...and even that parking lot is full this time of the night!
(Oh, wait - that's a car lot.)
;)
| 242 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:13:54am |
Yesterday in Washington, the secret service arrested a man who climbed over
the White House fence.
The secret service told the man "Get back here Mr. President, you still have 1438 days left"
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:14:07am |
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:14:31am |
re: #242 Erik The Red
Yesterday in Washington, the secret service arrested a man who climbed over
the White House fence.The secret service told the man "Get back here Mr. President, you still have 1438 days left"
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:14:34am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:16:42am |
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:17:08am |
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:17:23am |
Doesn't this look like the close-up shots they had in the car?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:19:07am |
re: #250 gmsc
Doesn't this look like the close-up shots they had in the car?
For sure it's gotta be him.
| 255 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:21:05am |
I was testing the children in my Newfoundland Sunday school class to see if
they understood the concept of getting to Heaven.
I asked them, 'If I sold my house and my car, had a big garage sale and
gave all my money to the church, would that get me into Heaven?'
'NO!' the children answered.
'If I cleaned the church every day, mowed the yard, and kept everything
neat and tidy, would that get me into Heaven?'
Again, the answer was, 'NO!' By now I was starting to smile.
Hey, this was fun! 'Well, then, if I was kind to animals and gave candy to
all the children, and loved my husband, would that get me into Heaven?' I
asked them again.
Again, they all answered, 'NO!' I was just bursting with pride for them.
Well, I continued, 'then how can I get into Heaven?'
A six-year-old Newfie boy shouted out, 'YOU GOTTA BE F*CKIN' DEAD!'
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:21:32am |
Living Will Form
I, __________________________, being of sound mind and body, do not wish to be kept alive indefinitely by artificial means.
Under no circumstances should my fate be put in the hands of pinhead politicians who couldn’t pass ninth-grade biology if their lives depended on it.
Nor in the hands of lawyers/doctors who are interested simply in running up the bills. If a reasonable amount of time passes and I fail to ask for at least one of the following:
Bloody Mary
Margarita
Scotch and soda
Martini
Vodka and Tonic
steak
lobster or crab legs
the remote control
bowl of ice cream
the sports page
chocolate
or sex
…it should be presumed that I won’t ever get better.
When such a determination is reached, I hereby instruct my appointed person and attending physicians to pull the plug, reel in the tubes and call it a day.
At this point, it is time to call a New Orleans Jazz Funeral Band to come do their thing at my funeral, and ask all of my friends to raise their glasses to toast the good times we have had.
Signature: _________________________
Date: _____________________________
I also hear that in Ireland they have a Nursing Home with a Pub. The patients are happier and they have a lot more visitors.
| 257 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:22:41am |
A chicken farmer went to a local bar... sat next to a woman and ordered a
glass of champagne.
The woman perks up and says, "How about that? I just ordered a glass of
champagne, too!"
"What a coincidence," the farmer says, "This is a special day for me, I'm
celebrating."
"This is a special day for me too, I'm also celebrating!" says the woman.
"What a coincidence," says the man. As they clinked glasses the farmer
asked, "What are you celebrating?"
"My husband and I have been trying to have a child, and today my
gynaecologist told me that I'm pregnant!"
"What a coincidence," says the man .. "I'm a chicken farmer, and for years
all my hens were infertile, but today they're finally laying fertilized
eggs."
"That's great!" says the woman, "How did your chickens become fertile?"
"I used a different cock," he replied.
The woman smiled and said, "What a coincidence..."
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:24:39am |
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Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:24:54am |
An attorney arrived home late, after a very tough day trying to get a stay
of execution for a client who was due to be hanged for murder at midnight.
His last minute plea for clemency to the governor had failed and he was
feeling worn out and depressed.
As soon as he walked through the door at home, his wife started on him
about, 'What time of night to be getting home is this? Where have you
been?' 'Dinner is cold and I'm not reheating it'. And on and on and on.
Too shattered to play his usual role in this familiar ritual, he went and
poured himself a shot of whiskey and headed off for a long hot soak in the
bathtub, pursued by the predictable sarcastic remarks as he dragged himself
up the stairs.
While he was in the bath, the phone rang.
The wife answered and was told that her husband's client, James Wright, had
been granted a stay of execution after all. Wright would not be hanged
tonight.
Finally realizing what a terrible day he must have had, she decided to go
upstairs and give him the good news.
As she opened the bathroom door, she was greeted by the sight of her
husband, bent over naked, drying his legs and feet.
'They're not hanging Wright tonight,' she said. To which he whirled around
and screamed, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WOMAN, DON'T YOU EVER STOP?
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:26:24am |
So many changes were made to DJ Khaled's Wikipedia page, they had to lock it!
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:27:30am |
Adult Resignation
I am hereby officially tendering my resignation as an adult.
I have decided I would like to accept the responsibilities of an 8 year old again.
I want to go to McDonald’s and think that it’s a four star restaurant.
I want to sail sticks across a fresh mud puddle and make ripples with rocks.
I want to think M&M’s are better than money because you can eat them.
I want to lie under a big tree and run a lemonade stand with my friends on a hot summer’s day.
I want to return to a time when life was simple.
When all you knew was colors, multiplication tables, and nursery rhymes,
but that didn’t bother you, because you didn’t know what you didn’t know and you didn’t care.
All you knew was to be happy because you were blissfully unaware of all the things that should make you worried or upset.
I want to think the world is fair.
That everyone is honest and good.
I want to believe that anything is possible.
I want to be oblivious to the complexities of life and be overly excited by the little things again.
I want to live simple again.
I don’t want my day to consist of computer crashes, mountains of paperwork, depressing news, how to survive more days in the month than there is money in the bank, doctor bills, gossip, illness, and loss of loved ones.
I want to believe in the power of smiles, hugs, justice, a kind word, truth, peace, dreams, love, the imagination, mankind, and making angels in the snow.
So….here’s my checkbook, my wallet, my car-keys, my credit cards and my 401K statements.
I am officially resigning from adulthood.
And if you want to discuss this further, you’ll have to catch me first, cause,
“Tag! You’re It.”
…Author Unknown
| 264 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:29:06am |
An elderly couple, still very loving after all these years, is shocked when
the woman's doctor says she has a heart condition that could kill her at
any time. She is to avoid stress, eat right, and never, ever have sex
again-the strain would be too much.
The couple reluctantly try to live by these rules. Both get really frisky
over time, however, and the husband decides he'd better sleep downstairs on
the couch to guard against temptation.
This works for a few weeks, until late one night when they meet each other
on the stairs-she's coming downstairs, he's heading up.
"Honey, I have a confession to make," the woman says, her voice quavering.
"I was about to commit suicide."
"I'm glad to hear it, sweetie," the man says, "Because I was just coming
upstairs to kill you!"
| 265 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:32:02am |
Why Parents (Grandparents) Drink
The boss wondered why one of his most valued employees had not phoned in sick one day. Having an urgent problem with one of the main computers, he dialed the employee’s home phone number and was greeted with a child’s whisper.
“Hello.” “Is your daddy home?” he asked.
“Yes,” whispered the small voice.
May I talk with him?”
The child whispered, “No.”
Surprised and wanting to talk with an adult, the boss asked, “Is your Mommy there?”
“Yes.”
“May I talk with her?”
Again the small voice whispered, “No.”
Thank you Dianne Fischer!
Hoping there was somebody with whom he could leave a message, the boss asked, “Is anybody else there?”
“Yes,” whispered the child, “a policeman.”
Wondering what a cop would be doing at his employee’s home, the boss asked, “May I speak with the policeman?”
“No, he’s busy”, whispered the child.
“Busy doing what?
“Talking to Daddy and Mommy and the Fireman,” came the whispered answer.
Growing more worried as he heard what sounded like a helicopter through the ear piece, the boss asked, “What is that noise?”
“A helicopter” answered the whispering voice.
“What is going on there?” demanded the boss, now truly apprehensive.
Again, whispering, the child answered, “The search team just landed the helicopter.”
Alarmed, concerned and a little frustrated the boss asked,
“What are they searching for?”
Still whispering, the young voice replied with a muffled giggle: “ME.”
| 266 |
gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:38:34am |
Ironically, one of DJ Khaled's best known videos, "We takin' over", features him in a car chase:
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:42:31am |
re: #266 gmsc
I'm not sure if that's irony of self-fulfilling prophecy.
| 268 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:42:44am |
Heh...."we takin' over".....I guess the message doesn't change much, eh?
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:43:13am |
re: #267 Fenway_Nation
I'm not sure if that's irony of self-fulfilling prophecy.
So much for "We Takin' Over", though.
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:44:11am |
EXCLUSIVE: FBI Raided Lobbying Firm Connected to Murtha
Feds Narrowing In On Companies With Ties To Congressman
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
| 271 |
Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:49:05am |
re: #270 Dustyvet
Some nice, warm schdenfreude on a chill winter's night.
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Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:53:16am |
A Canadian lumber camp advertises for a lumberjack. A skinny little guy
shows up at the camp the next day carrying an axe.
The head lumberjack takes one look at the puny little guy and tells him to
get lost.
"Give me a chance to show you what I can do," says the skinny guy.
"Okay, see that giant redwood over there?" says the head lumberjack. "Take
your axe and cut it down."
The guy heads for the tree, and in five minutes he's knocking on the
lumberjack's door. "I cut the tree down," says the guy.
The lumberjack can't believe his eyes and says, "Where did you learn to
chop down trees like that?"
"In the Sahara Forest," says the puny man.
"You mean the Sahara Desert," says the lumberjack.
"Sure......That's what they call it now!"
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Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:54:03am |
Three women, one engaged, one married and one a mistress, are chatting
about their relationships and decided to amaze their men. That night all
three will wear black leather bras, stiletto heels and a mask over their
eyes.
After a few days they meet up for lunch.
The engaged woman: The other night when my boyfriend came over he found me
with a black leather bodice, tall stilettos and a mask. He saw me and said,
You are the woman of my life. I love you. Then we made love all night long.
The mistress: Me too! The other night I met my lover at his office and I
was wearing the leather bodice, heel s, mask over my eyes and a raincoat.
When I opened the raincoat he didn't say a word, but we made wild love all
night.
The married woman: I sent the kids to stay at my mothers house for the
night. When my husband came home I was wearing the leather bodice, black
stockings, stilettos and a mask over my eyes. As soon as he came in the
door and saw me he said, What's for dinner, Batman!
| 276 |
lewisinnyc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:54:39am |
Darwin was actually wrong on the whole "lineal descent" part. Apparently, recent DNA analysis shows that evolution is only partly (and possibly less than 50%) lineal. A significant portion of evolution seems to come from "horizontal gene transfer." Really interesting article here: [Link: www.newscientist.com...]
| 277 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:56:23am |
A three-year-old boy was examining his testicles while taking a bath.
"Mom", he asked, "are these my brains?"
"Not yet," she replied
| 278 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:58:46am |
Harley Davidson, feeling it was time for a shake-up, hired a new CEO.
The new boss was determined to rid the company of all slackers.
On a tour of the facilities, the CEO noticed a guy leaning on a wall. The room was full of workers and he wanted to let them know that he meant business.
He walked up to the guy leaning against the wall and asked, "How much money do you make a week?"
A little surprised, the young man looked at him and replied, "I make $400 a week. Why?"
The CEO then hands the guy $1,600 in cash and screams, "Here's four weeks' pay, now GET OUT and don't come back!"
Feeling pretty good about himself, the CEO looked around the room and asked, "Does anyone want to tell me what that f*cking slacker did here?"
From across the room came a voice: "Pizza delivery guy from Domino's."
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:58:56am |
re: #274 TheMatrix31
So does this mean that we'll be treated to a fuzzball DJ Khaled biopic in theaters everywhere soon?
| 280 |
thefallingman Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:59:03am |
Hey, if anybody lives in California, I strongly recommend you stock up on ammo and maybe pick up another pistol or two.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 1:59:43am |
re: #274 TheMatrix31
What an idiot.
At least I know understand why I heard someone in the crowd shout "We da worst" during the standoff - it's a reference to "We da best" from his "Takin' Over" video.
| 282 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:00:09am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:00:17am |
re: #282 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
Thanks, yum!
| 285 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:00:56am |
A country club didn't allow women on the golf course. Eventually, there was
enough pressure that they decided to allow women on the course during the
week. The ladies were satisfied with this arrangement, formed a women's
club and became very active.
After about 6 months, the club board received a letter from the women's
club complaining about the men, urinating on the golf course. Naturally,
they just ignored the matter.
After another 6 months, they received another letter reminding them of the
previous letter and demanding action.
After due deliberation they sent the women a letter advising them that they
had been granted equal privileges!
| 287 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:02:00am |
re: #282 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
{lol} thanks for fruitcup
| 288 |
BignJames Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:02:24am |
re: #280 thefallingman
Hey, if anybody lives in California, I strongly recommend you stock up on ammo and maybe pick up another pistol or two.
I thought it was illegal to posess a photo of a gun in Ca.
| 289 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:03:17am |
Seniors questions ...
Q: My wife is going through menopause. What can I do?
A: Keep busy. If you're handy with tools, you can finish the basement. When
you are done you will have a place to live.
Q: How can you increase the heart rate of your 60+ year old husband?
A: Tell him you're pregnant.
Q: How can you avoid spotting a wrinkle every time you walk by a mirror?
A: The next time you're in front of a mirror, take off your glasses.
Q: Why should 60+ year old people use valet parking?
A: Valets don't forget where they park your car.
Q: Is it common for 60+ year olds to have problems with short term memory
storage?
A: Storing memory is not a problem, retrieving it is a problem.
Q: As people age, do they sleep more soundly?
A: Yes, but usually in the afternoon.
Q: Where do 60+ year olds look for fashionable glasses?
A: Their foreheads.
Q: What is the most common remark made by 60+ year olds when they enter
antique stores?
A: "I remember these."
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:03:40am |
re: #282 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
Good mornin'....you missed some interesting shenanigans in LA overnight.
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littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:04:56am |
Erik! :-)
Matrix! :-)
Shenanigans in LA?
/color me shocked! ;-)
| 292 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:06:01am |
Good morning littleoldlady. How's things in your neck of the woods today?
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:06:23am |
re: #288 BignJames
I thought it was illegal to posess a photo of a gun in Ca.
Speaking of over-reacting - here in Las Vegas, a high school student on a drill team, whose academic record had earned her a scholarship, was suspended from school today.
After drill team practice the previous day, she forgot to remove her prop rifle from the car. While at school the next day, it was spotted in her car and reported to the principal.
| 294 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:07:08am |
BlueCanuck! :-)
It's dark here. ;-)
How's by you?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:07:21am |
re: #291 littleoldlady
Erik! :-)
Matrix! :-)
Shenanigans in LA?
/color me shocked! ;-)
Yeah, a famous DJ killed himself after a long "slow" speed chase and subsequent standoff about oh, no more than 5 miles from where I live.
| 296 |
gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:07:26am |
re: #291 littleoldlady
Erik! :-)
Matrix! :-)
Shenanigans in LA?
/color me shocked! ;-)
Yet another rapper is dead. Old story.
| 297 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:07:42am |
re: #294 littleoldlady
Dark as well, and interesting times. Very interesting.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:08:13am |
re: #295 TheMatrix31
Yeah, a famous DJ killed himself after a long "slow" speed chase and subsequent standoff about oh, no more than 5 miles from where I live.
Apparently Walter and Red live in the immediate area, too.
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Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:08:59am |
Upon arriving home in eager anticipation of a leisurely evening, the
husband was met at the door by his sobbing wife. Tearfully she explained,
"It's the druggist - he insulted me terribly this morning on the phone."
Immediately the husband drove downtown to accost the druggist and demand an
apology.
Before he could say more than a word or two, the druggist told him, "Now,
just a minute - listen to my side of it. This morning the alarm failed to
go off, so I was late getting up. I went without breakfast and hurried out
to the car, but I'll be damned if I didn't lock the house with both house
and car keys inside. I had to break a window to get my keys.
Driving a little too fast, I got a speeding ticket. Then, about three
blocks from the store I had a flat tire. When I finally got to the store
there was a bunch of people waiting for me to open up. I got the store
opened and started waiting on these people, and all the time the darn phone
was ringing its head off. Then I had to break a roll of nickels against the
cash register drawer to make change, and they spilled all over the floor.
I got down on my hands and knees to pick up the nickels - the phone is
still ringing - when I came up I cracked my head on the open cash drawer,
which made me stagger back against a showcase with a bunch of perfume
bottles on it, and half of them hit the floor and broke. The phone is still
ringing with no let up, and I finally got back to answer it.
It was your wife - she wanted to know how to use a rectal thermometer.
And Mister, I TOLD HER!"
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gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:09:02am |
re: #297 BlueCanuck
Dark as well, and interesting times. Very interesting.
Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.
My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.
He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:11:58am |
For the record, I never actually saw the 0bama press conference. Lars Larsen carried it live on his radio show (which is how I found out about Ed Schultz getting White House press credentials) and would comment over some of 0bama's remarks and take the requisite commercial breaks for sponsors and so forth.
For someone who's supposedly articulate and charismatic as president 0bama is, there sure were and awful lot of stilted, awkward pauses and 'Uhhh......'. If what logboy said earlier about most of the questions being arranged in advance is true, we are truly and royally fucked with a president who had a difficult time handling a room full of friendly reporters, let alone simultaneous multiple crisises...
| 303 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:12:27am |
re: #298 gmsc
Apparently Walter and Red live in the immediate area, too.
I think Walter resides near Denver.
| 304 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:13:32am |
Famous rapper? Okay, tell me his name.
/guaranteed not to know it. ;-)
Did FoxNews carry the car chase? I'll never understand their fascination with car chases. All in L.A. too.
| 305 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:14:08am |
re: #301 Sharmuta
Those women really know how to dress!
| 306 |
BignJames Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:14:38am |
re: #304 littleoldlady
Famous rapper? Okay, tell me his name.
/guaranteed not to know it. ;-)
Did FoxNews carry the car chase? I'll never understand their fascination with car chases. All in L.A. too.
Cheap programming.
| 308 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:16:34am |
re: #304 littleoldlady
Famous rapper? Okay, tell me his name.
/guaranteed not to know it. ;-)
Did FoxNews carry the car chase? I'll never understand their fascination with car chases. All in L.A. too.
No they didn't carry it, but the local Fox affiliates did.
His name is DJ Khaled.
And Fenway, I listened to it too coming home from school, and the guy was speaking literally word by word. It was disgustingly irritating.
| 309 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:18:18am |
As we age, our priorities change.
The other day I came home and was greeted by my wife dressed only in very
sexy underwear and holding a couple of short velvet ropes.
"Tie me up," she purred, "and you can do anything you want."
So, I tied her up and went golfing!
| 310 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:18:50am |
| 313 |
Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:19:43am |
re: #303 Dustyvet
Must've been one hell of a ricochet on DJ Khaled's self-inflicted gunshot.
| 314 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:20:04am |
| 315 |
rightside Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:20:19am |
Morning Lizards.
{lol}
I'm watching a rerun of the press conference from last night. I can't understand after listening to him, how people honestly think he is articulate. He cannot say more than 2 or 3 words at a time without pausing. In the instructor world, we call that "winging it". Not knowing what you are talking about, but madly searching for the "sounds good" words.
| 316 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:21:34am |
re: #313 Fenway_Nation
Must've been one hell of a ricochet on DJ Khaled's self-inflicted gunshot.
Well I think his profile stated Golden , CO
| 317 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:22:16am |
| 318 |
Scorch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:22:27am |
re: #293 gmsc
Speaking of over-reacting - here in Las Vegas, a high school student on a drill team, whose academic record had earned her a scholarship, was suspended from school today.
After drill team practice the previous day, she forgot to remove her prop rifle from the car. While at school the next day, it was spotted in her car and reported to the principal.
When our sons were still in high school they were sent home and not allowed on campus several times because of spent shotgun shells and spent 22 cartridges found in the back of their trucks after they had gone hunting the weekend before. Did not matter that they explained and had no weapons only spent cartridges. Crazy world were living in these days.
| 319 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:23:41am |
re: #317 littleoldlady
Dustyvet! :-)
rightside! :-)
Those pauses are part of his hypnotism. ;-)
QQ look into my eyes...:) Hi Lady...:)
| 320 |
gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:23:44am |
On November 21, 1980, the famous MGM (now known as Bally's) Fire began, due to faulty wiring. Due to poor fire codes at the time, none of the casinos on the Strip at the time had sprinklers, and the fire dept. was not equipped with fire trucks and equipment to get up to the top floors.
As a result, 87 people died, and 650 were injured. If you've ever heard that smoke inhalation kills more people in a fire than the flames themselves, it was because this fire's toll was so shocking that it wound up popularizing the fact.
Almost immediately, Las Vegas fire codes were changed, and mandatory upgrades in all the casinos began. The Vegas Fire Dept. were getting newer equipment and trained in newer techniques, as well.
Just 90 days later, on February 10, 1981 (28 years ago today), in the middle of its own fire upgrade, the Las Vegas Hilton caught on fire.
This time, however, it was intentionally set by Hilton busboy Philip Cline on 4 different floors. Initial news reports had actually portrayed him as a hero, telling of him trying to put out fires with a trash can full of water.
Already, because of the improved training, equipment and measure taken in just the previous 90 days, only 8 people died and 198 were injured.
While talking to various Hilton employees who were working that day, the police had used a polygraph during the questioning (records show they all consented). At one point, Philip Cline made a Freudian slip by saying that he grabbed a trash can and filled it with fire. Shortly after that, he broke down.
Further investigation led to more evidence. Philip Cline was found guilty in the courts, and is still serving 8 life sentences in jail, without possibility of parole.
| 321 |
gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:25:06am |
re: #304 littleoldlady
Famous rapper? Okay, tell me his name.
/guaranteed not to know it. ;-)
Did FoxNews carry the car chase? I'll never understand their fascination with car chases. All in L.A. too.
I never heard of the guy myself until tonight.
Hey - car chases get ratings, and ratings help sell advertising! What further justification does a news channel need?
| 322 |
gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:26:25am |
re: #320 gmsc
Further investigation led to more evidence. Philip Cline was found guilty in the courts, and is still serving 8 life sentences in
jailprison, without possibility of parole.
Prison, not jail. PIMF.
| 323 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:26:33am |
re: #321 gmsc
What further justification does a news channel need?
Distracting a certain someone from studying for his midterm which is in eight short hours?
| 324 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:28:05am |
re: #312 Sharmuta
Judy Garland AND Cole Porter?!
/it doesn't get any better than that!
THANKS! :-)
I learned to sing with Judy Garland records.
| 325 |
Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:28:22am |
re: #310 Dustyvet
I'm about 12 years too late for this one, but Malcom X's grandson could learn a valuable lesson from 'Never set your grandmother's apartment on fire'
| 326 |
gmsc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:29:22am |
re: #323 TheMatrix31
Distracting a certain someone from studying for his midterm which is in eight short hours?
Hey - you shouldn't even have the TV on!
I remember studying in college for a midterm so effectively, that I was accused of cheating by the teacher!
| 327 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:29:24am |
6 truths of life:
1) You cannot touch all of your teeth with your tongue.
2) All idiots, after reading this first truth, try it.
3) The first truth is a lie.
4) You're smiling now because you are an idiot.
5) You will soon forward this to another idiot.
6) There's still a stupid smile on your face.
| 329 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:30:49am |
A man took his wife to the rodeo and one of the first exhibits they stopped
at was the breeding bulls.
They went up to the first pen and there was a sign attached that said,
'THIS BULL MATED 50 TIMES LAST YEAR'
The wife playfully nudged her husband in the ribs and said, 'He mated 50
times last year.' They walked to the second pen which had a sign attached
that said, ''THIS BULL MATED 150 TIMES LAST YEAR'
The wife gave her husband a healthy jab and said, 'That's more than twice a
week! You could learn a lot from him.'
They walked to the third pen and it had a sign attached that said, in
capital letters, 'THIS BULL MATED 365 TIMES LAST YEAR'
The wife, so excited that her elbow nearly broke her husband's ribs, said,
'That's once a day. You could REALLY learn something from this one
The husband looked at her and said, 'Go over and ask him if it was with the
same old cow.'
The husband's condition has been upgraded from critical to stable and he
should eventually make a full recovery.
| 330 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:30:53am |
Porter wrote "Don't fence me in"?
/I.did.not.know.that!
| 332 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:31:17am |
re: #324 littleoldlady
I'm glad you liked it, Lady. How about a favorite of yours by a new talent?
| 334 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:32:27am |
re: #326 gmsc
Hey - you shouldn't even have the TV on!
I remember studying in college for a midterm so effectively, that I was accused of cheating by the teacher!
I stayed up all night and crammed once...passed the blood test too!
| 335 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:32:58am |
re: #326 gmsc
Hey - you shouldn't even have the TV on!
I remember studying in college for a midterm so effectively, that I was accused of cheating by the teacher!
LOL wow....that's incredible.
Yeah, studying doesn't mix well with me. All I really do is read my notes anyway. Whatever sticks, sticks.
It comes as no surprise that I'm a better multiple choice test-taker.
| 337 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:35:53am |
A young couple took their five-year-old son to the doctor. With some
hesitation, they explained that, although their little angel appeared to be
in good health, they were concerned about his rather small penis.
After examining the child, the doctor confidently declared, "Just feed him
pancakes. That should solve the problem."
The next morning, when the boy arrived at breakfast, there was a large
stack of warm pancakes in the middle of the table.
"Gee, mom," he exclaimed. "For me?"
"Just take two," his mother replied. "The rest are for your father.
| 338 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:37:55am |
| 339 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:38:37am |
| 340 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:40:09am |
re: #338 littleoldlady
It is, Jennifer Hudson- and she just won a Grammy. She won an Oscar for this role in Dream Girls:
| 341 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:41:30am |
Love, Lust and Marriage
Love- When your eyes meet across a crowded room.
Lust- When your tongues meet across a crowded room.
Marriage- When you try to lose your spouse in a crowded room.
Love- When intercourse is called making love.
Lust- When intercourse in called screwing.
Marriage- When intercourse is a little town in Pennsylvania.
Love- When you argue over how many kids to have.
Lust- When you argue over w ho gets the wet spot.
Marriage- When you argue over whose idea it was to have kids.
Love- When you share everything you own.
Lust- When you steal everything they own.
Marriage- When the bank owns everything.
Love- When it doesn't matter if you don't climax.
Lust- When the relationship is over if you don't climax.
Marriage- When.... uh.... what's a climax.
Love- W hen your heart flutters every time you see them.
Lust- When your groin twitches every time you see them.
Marriage- When your wallet empties every time you see them.
Love- When all the songs on the radio describe exactly how you feel.
Lust- When all the songs on the radio determine how you do it.
Marriage- When you listen to talk radio.
Love- When breaking up is something you try not to think about.
Lust- When staying together is something you try not to think about.
Marriage- When just getting through the day is your only thought.
Love- When you're only interested in doing things with your partner.
Lust- When you're only interested in doing things TO your partner.
Marriage- When you're only interested in your golf score.
Love- When a rainy day means more time to stay inside and talk.
Lust- When a rainy day means more time to stay inside and have sex.
Marriage- When a rainy day means it's time to clean the basement.
Love- You only leave the house for coffee and doughnuts.
Lust- You only leave the house for condoms and Vaseline.
Marriage- You only leave the house when you're allowed.
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Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:42:57am |
My Living Will
Last night, my wife and I were sitting in the living room and I said to
her, "I never want to live in a vegetative state, dependent on some machine
and fluids from a bottle. If that ever happens to me, just pull the plug."
She got up, turned off the Rugby World Cup, unplugged the TV and threw out
my Miller Lite.
She's such a bitch.....
| 343 |
Scorch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:45:48am |
re: #336 Dustyvet
Just remind yourself your aging like a fine wine.
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gregg Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:48:01am |
State of Fear:
The economic downturn is so severe that it would surpass even the Great Depression of the 1930s, Ed Balls said yesterday.
In an extradorinary admission about the extent of the financial crisis, the Schools Secretary and a close ally of the Prime Minister [note: Gordon Brown], declared that the downturn was the most serious global recession for "over 100 years".
[Link: business.timesonline.co.uk...]
| 345 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:49:06am |
Recently a man had to go to the hospital to have his wedding ring cut off
from his willy after his mistress found the ring in his pants pocket and
got so mad at him she stuck it on him while he was asleep.
I don't know what's worse:
1) Having your mistress find out you're married.
2) Explaining to your wife how your wedding ring got on your willy.
3) Or finding out your willy fits through your wedding ring.
| 346 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:49:25am |
re: #344 gregg
State of Fear:
[Link: business.timesonline.co.uk...]
Well if its that bad...then shit, maybe the Depression wasn't so bad after all!
| 347 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:50:38am |
Driving my friend Bill and his girlfriend to the airport, I passed a
billboard showing a bikini-clad beauty holding a can of beer.
Bill's girlfriend glanced up at it and announced, "I suppose if I drank a
six-pack of that brand, I'd look like her."
"No," Bill corrected, "If I drank a six-pack, you'd look like her."
| 348 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:51:29am |
re: #340 Sharmuta
Easy to see why she won the Grammy. FABULOUS! :-)
| 349 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:51:44am |
If you haven't seen Dream Girls, lol- it's a great movie. Here's another great clip of Jennifer from the film singing her butt off:
| 350 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:51:46am |
re: #346 TheMatrix31
Well if its that bad...then shit, maybe the Depression wasn't so bad after all!
| 352 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:54:22am |
A Welsh man walking through a field, sees a man drinking water from a pool
with his hand.
The Welsh man shouts "Paid a yfed y dwr mae'r gwartheg yn cachi yn y dwr"
(Don't drink the water, it's full of cow shit.)
The man shouts back "I'm English, Speak English, I don't understand you".
The Welsh man shouts back "Use both hands, you'll get more in."
| 353 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:55:30am |
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littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:55:43am |
| 355 |
Scorch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:56:24am |
re: #346 TheMatrix31
People were not as materialistic during the great depression as they are today.
| 356 |
freetoken Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:56:26am |
re: #344 gregg
Hmmm.... does that qualify as "doomer porn"? Perhaps not.
Three things to watch:
Banking system - unfortunately ours went too far into speculation and now it needs repaired. Expect something from Geithner and Obama within a week or two.
Over-expansion of world manufacturing capability - especially in China, but given global commerce I think it is safe to say that the presumption of what was going to be consumed vs. what will be consumed is going to be quite different everywhere.
Over-expansion of personal indebtedness esp. w.r.t. home mortgages - a true US problem, but also in the UK and some other places. Not everyone can or should own property and trying to make them do so looks like it has backfired, to the tune of trillions of dollars.
So yeah, this is quite a mess. I'm still wondering how here in California the state gov't is going to operate. Even with the hand-out via the "Stimulus" package that states will get, California is still bust.
| 357 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 2:57:42am |
re: #350 Dustyvet
History. I remember when they taught it in school. :-/
| 358 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:04:06am |
re: #354 littleoldlady
Effie White, Deena Jones, and Lorrell Robinson - three friends from Chicago - are a promising singing trio called The Dreamettes. Accompanied by their songwriter C.C. White (Effie's brother), they travel to New York to compete in a talent show at the Apollo Theatre. Although the girls lose this first bid for fame, their talent attracts an ambitious manager by the name of Curtis Taylor, Jr., who uses unscrupulous tactics to move the girls from backup singers of superstar James "Thunder" Early to superstars of their own. Curtis reshapes the group to "crossover" from R & B to the lucrative pop music scene. Lead singer Effie gets replaced by the more attractive Deena and is eventually dropped from the trio. The group evolves into a more sophisticated group, The Dreams, with a lighter sound and chic look. They successfully attract a "whiter" audience and The Dreams rise to international stardom. The money, fame, and adulation, however, doesn't bring them happiness.
Eddie Murphy's really good in the film too.
| 359 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:04:31am |
A woman goes on a game show trying to win the top prize of $50,000. She
keeps answering question after question, and the prize money keeps building
up.
Finally she gets to the last question and the host says, "Okay, now. For
fifty thousand dollars, here is your final question: What are the three
most important parts of a man's body?"
Suddenly the buzzer sounds. "Oh, I'm sorry," says the host, "our time is up
for today. We'll have to come back next week and ask you that question
again. If you can answer it correctly, though, you will win fifty thousand
dollars!"
So the woman goes home that night, and her husband is really excited.
"Wow, honey!" he exclaims as he hugs her. "You did great! That was
fantastic! And just wait until next week! We'll win fifty thousand
dollars!"
So the wife says to him, "Well, tell me, honey. What are the three most
important parts of a man's body?"
The husband answers, "It's the head, the heart, and the penis."
"Oh, okay," she says. "Great!"
So for the next few days, the husband keeps testing her with the question.
She's in the shower when he suddenly sticks his head in around the curtain
and barks, "What are the three most important parts of a man's body?"
She quickly replies, "HEAD, HEART, AND P'ENIS!"
"Great!" says the husband.
All week long he keeps testing her, asking her at the strangest moments,
and trying to catch her off guard. But she always gets the right answer.
Finally the big night arrives, and she is very excited as she arrives at
the television studio. The lights go on, and soon as they go on the air,
the host says to her, "All right! You've had a week to prepare! Now…for
fifty thousand dollars…what are the three most important parts of a man's
body?"
The studio audience falls to a hush. The hot bright lights are shining
down, the cameras push in for a close up, and the woman starts to get
flustered.
"U"...um...um...the...the...uh...the HEAD!"
"That's ONE!" says the host.
"Uh…uh…uh," stammers the woman, "uh…the HEART!"
The host shouts out, "That's TWO!"
Now the woman is so nervous that she can hardly think. "Oh, I know it, I
know it," she says, "it's right on the tip of my tongue…I could spit it
out…it's been drilled into me all week…"
The host says, "Aaah, that's close enough. You win!"
| 360 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:05:57am |
Students were assigned to read 2 books, "Titanic" and "My Life" by Bill
Clinton and turn in book reports on each of them. One sharp witted student
turned in the following book report, with the proposition that they were
nearly identical stories and hence only one book report was required!
His cool professor gave him an A+ for this report:
Titanic: $29.99
Clinton: $29.99
Titanic: Over 3 hours to read
Clinton: Over 3 hours to read
Titanic: The story of Jack and Rose, their forbidden love, and subsequent
catastrophe.
Clinton: The story of Bill and Monica, their forbidden love and subsequent
catastrophe.
Titanic: Jack is a starving artist.
Clinton: Bill is a bullshit artist.
Titanic: In one scene, Jack enjoys a good cigar.
Clinton: Ditto for Bill.
Titanic: During ordeal, Rose's dress gets ruined.
Clinton: Ditto for Monica.
Titanic: Jack teaches Rose to spit.
Clinton: Let's not go there.
Titanic: Rose gets to keep her jewelry.
Clinton: Monica's forced to return her gifts.
Titanic: Rose remembers Jack for the rest of her life.
Clinton: Clinton doesn't remember Jack.
Titanic: Rose goes down on a vessel full of seamen.
Clinton: Monica...ooh, let's not go there, either.
Titanic: Jack surrenders to an icy death.
Clinton: Bill goes home to Hillary... basically, the same thing.
| 361 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:06:16am |
re: #358 Sharmuta
Thanks! :-) It'll show up on my free movies from Comcast digital....sooner or later.
| 362 |
Scorch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:07:08am |
re: #357 littleoldlady
The adage of, History repeats itself, seems to have been lost in the school systems decades ago.
| 363 |
little blessing Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:09:58am |
little blessing checking in with Littleoldlady.
Erik, thanks for the laughs. Its good to smile.
| 364 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:11:24am |
Morning little blessing. What's the word on the fires?
| 365 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:12:20am |
re: #361 littleoldlady
I looked up your cable system, and it looks like Dream Girls is On Demand for free until Feb. 23.
| 366 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:12:28am |
re: #363 little blessing
{[{little blessing}]}! :-)
Thanks for checking in. I'm sorry it's still so bad there. You need to stay safe!
| 368 |
little blessing Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:14:19am |
re: #364 BlueCanuck
Hey, Blue!
Toll has risen to over 180 dead. Wind is whipping up the fires again. Lots of anger from people who want to access their properties and look for relatives but the police won't let them in. There are people trapped without power, phone access or gas and they wont let any in.
| 369 |
little blessing Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:16:17am |
I'm exhausted. Physically and emotionally. Popped in quickly as I just finished calling people who may be affected and asking them what we can help with. Most on my list weren't affected at all, which is good.
Tomorrow is another day. Thanks for your concern. It means a lot.
| 371 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:16:59am |
re: #363 little blessing
little blessing checking in with Littleoldlady.
Erik, thanks for the laughs. Its good to smile.
Absolute pleasure. Hope you are safe.
| 372 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:17:22am |
It was Palm Sunday and, because of a sore throat, five-year-old Johnny
stayed home from church with a sitter.
When the family returned home, they were carrying several palm branches.
The boy asked what they were for. "People held them over Jesus' head as he
walked by"
"Wouldn't you know it, " the boy fumed, "The one Sunday I don't go, He
shows up!"
| 373 |
Luigi Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:17:35am |
Two headlines dominate the international news today.
Iran 'ready for dialogue with US'
and
Israelis vote in general election
Obviously, Iran is trying to influence the Israeli election in some way.
| 374 |
goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:18:01am |
{little blessing}
Good morningm Lizards
| 375 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:19:51am |
Good morning, {goddess}
And lol- it looks like it's in the HBO free movies. Hope you can access them.
| 376 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:20:40am |
re: #365 Sharmuta
No, it's not. Not yet, anyway. :-( There's 3 different Comcast systems in this area...
| 378 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:22:00am |
TAKE CARE, little blessing!
'Morning, goddess! :-)
| 379 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:22:21am |
| 380 |
goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:23:36am |
{Sharmuta}
{littleoldlady}
{BlueCanuck}
{Scorch}
{Luigi}
{Erik the Red}
| 385 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:26:38am |
re: #353 TheMatrix31
I know, I was being sarcastic. Guess I should have put a tag of some sort, heh.
so was I, I should have done the same...:)
| 386 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:26:56am |
| 387 |
Scorch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:27:20am |
re: #383 Scorch
Oops...your username should be starboard side. :)
| 388 |
goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:29:27am |
{rigthside}
{Dustyvet}
{songbird}
| 389 |
akak Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:30:42am |
Livni casts ballot and tells voters to "get out of your houses";
Sheesh she's kicking the 60, 000 out already?
| 390 |
Scorch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:31:07am |
Well shoot, I obviously need another cup of joe.
Morning songbird.
| 391 |
littleoldlady Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:33:17am |
songbird! :-)
akak! :-)
How's it looking? (The election, I mean)
| 392 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:33:29am |
| 393 |
Tigger2005 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:34:02am |
re: #3 Sharmuta
It's deeply moving to me, personally, to know all of Life is tied together, related. We are all a part of something larger, and magnificent, and awesome, and humbling.
But ... but ... if we're related to animals, then shouldn't we ACT like animals, and rut in the dirt?
/
| 394 |
akak Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:35:25am |
re: #391 littleoldlady
songbird! :-)
akak! :-)
How's it looking? (The election, I mean)
dunno, was hoping Carl might have something, but between bad & worse- it'll be bad I'm guessing.
| 395 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:35:45am |
Good Morning LGF.
When logic and proportion have fallen
A-Roid's recently admitted past use of steroids undoubtedly sends a bad message to kids. But what kind of message had already been sent to kids by A-Roid's tawdry extra-marital affair with Madonna?
And just in case the Rodriguez story might die the quick death it deserves, the President of the United States saw fit to place the A-Roid story in its proper context by comparing it on national television to the cataclysmic economic news.
...slowly circling around the drain.
| 396 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:37:29am |
re: #393 Tigger2005
But ... but ... if we're related to animals, then shouldn't we ACT like animals, and rut in the dirt?
/
You obvioulsy have never seen my son and his freinds in his room on a Saturday ,, ESPECIALLY when the food comes out !
| 397 |
Tigger2005 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:38:07am |
re: #395 Spare O'Lake
Good Morning LGF.
When logic and proportion have fallen
A-Roid's recently admitted past use of steroids undoubtedly sends a bad message to kids. But what kind of message had already been sent to kids by A-Roid's tawdry extra-marital affair with Madonna?
And just in case the Rodriguez story might die the quick death it deserves, the President of the United States saw fit to place the A-Roid story in its proper context by comparing it on national television to the cataclysmic economic news.
...slowly circling around the drain.
Slowly?
| 398 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:38:42am |
re: #373 Luigi
Two headlines dominate the international news today.
Iran 'ready for dialogue with US'
and
Israelis vote in general election
Obviously, Iran is trying to influence the Israeli election in some way.
Then, maybe not so obviously, someone or something in our Admin must have done something to fulfill the prerequisite demands of the Mullah's; ie., apologize to the Regime; given the Mullah's a timetable for our departure from the region; and finally, provided the Mullah's with assurances of our changing foreign policy in the region - including the abandonment of our long standing and probably only true ally, Israel.
Morning folks, Scorch, Luigi, Erik, Blue, Lol...all.
| 399 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:40:10am |
Morning aboo. Seems there is precious little good news these days. At least the sun seems to be coming up on schedule.
| 402 |
NYCHardhat Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:43:47am |
The best part of Obama's Q&A last night was the A-Rod part. I can get used to rhetoric for the next 4 years or so.
| 403 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:44:01am |
HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE
In 1920, the USA was on the verge of a "catastrophic" depression. The gov't did ,,,,,,,,, NOTHING. It lasted about a year
In the 1930,s the USA was on the verge of a "catastrophic" depression. The gov't laid out massive amounts of money on massive projects. The depression lasted 5-6 years
In 2009, the USA was on the verge of a "catastrophic" depression.
(we've been here before kiddies!)
| 405 |
Scorch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:45:36am |
re: #398 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Good morning. Dead on comment about abandoning Israel. This admin does not have the sense to realize supporting Israel is our cheapest way to help keep that area stable.
| 406 |
NYCHardhat Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:46:02am |
re: #403 sattv4u2
HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE
In 1920, the USA was on the verge of a "catastrophic" depression. The gov't did ,,,,,,,,, NOTHING. It lasted about a yearIn the 1930,s the USA was on the verge of a "catastrophic" depression. The gov't laid out massive amounts of money on massive projects. The depression lasted 5-6 years
In 2009, the USA was on the verge of a "catastrophic" depression.(we've been here before kiddies!)
The gov't put it's greasy palms on the middle class and then there was none.
| 407 |
goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:46:34am |
re: #405 Scorch
Good morning. Dead on comment about abandoning Israel. This admin does not have the sense
to realize supporting Israel is our cheapest way to help keep that area stableGod gave a goat.
FTFY
| 408 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:46:35am |
| 409 |
Jim in Virginia Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:47:32am |
Morning all. Some militants in Pakistan beheaded Polish geologist Piotr Stanczak. The WSJ cites this as the first execution of a western hostage since Daniel Pearl's murder.
I don't think the timing is coincidental. Just another global pop quiz before the big test. No reporter asked Bambi about it and he's made no comment.
| 410 |
NYCHardhat Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:49:09am |
re: #409 Jim in Virginia
Morning all. Some militants in Pakistan beheaded Polish geologist Piotr Stanczak. The WSJ cites this as the first execution of a western hostage since Daniel Pearl's murder.
I don't think the timing is coincidental. Just another global pop quiz before the big test. No reporter asked Bambi about it and he's made no comment.
Because he would only care if it was his wife or kid. This guy makes me sick.
| 411 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:50:00am |
re: #409 Jim in Virginia
Morning all. Some militants in Pakistan beheaded Polish geologist Piotr Stanczak. The WSJ cites this as the first execution of a western hostage since Daniel Pearl's murder.
I don't think the timing is coincidental. Just another global pop quiz before the big test. No reporter asked Bambi about it and he's made no comment.
He had more important things to deal with last night. Demonizing Bush for the "failures of the past 8 years,,,,,,,,,A-Rod ,,,,,,demonizing Bush for the "failures of the past 8 years",,, stuttering ,,,,,,,, demonizing Bush for the "failures of the past 8 years
| 412 |
Crux Australis Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:50:40am |
It's been blanket coverage of the fires in Australia. Fortunately the torrential rain in northern Australia is headed south to put out the fires near Sydney. We badly need the rain down here. I can only imagine whats going on to the south. It reminds me of the fires that surrounded Sydney in 2001.
| 413 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:51:53am |
re: #399 BlueCanuck
Morning aboo. Seems there is precious little good news these days. At least the sun seems to be coming up on schedule.
Boy...ain't that the truth, Blue.
| 414 |
Scorch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:52:31am |
re: #407 goddessoftheclassroom
Lol..guess that's a better way of pointing out the obvious.
Lost you on the FTFY though?
| 415 |
NYCHardhat Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:53:14am |
DON'T BLAME ME I VOTED FOR THE DEMOCRAT. (McCAIN)
| 416 |
goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:57:44am |
re: #414 Scorch
Lol..guess that's a better way of pointing out the obvious.
Lost you on the FTFY though?
Fixed That For You
(I had to ask, too)
| 417 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:57:53am |
In his speach last night, O'Bama one upped Carter. I beleive a CATASTROPHE is worse than a MALAISE !
| 418 |
razorbacker Tue, Feb 10, 2009 3:58:53am |
'Morning folks.
Finished my taxes. I paid about $300 federal. I guess that makes me some kind of Democrat special interest group.
Lard it up, boys. Hell, I ain't paying. Can't you add something to stimulate the gay whale's mens danues groups, too?
| 420 |
Scorch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:01:04am |
re: #416 goddessoftheclassroom
Fixed That For You
(I had to ask, too)
Ahhh ty. Caffeine still not kicking in yet..not that it would help anyway. Good day all, need to catch 20 winks.
| 421 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:03:02am |
| 422 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:05:00am |
re: #6 gmsc
I heard it was high jacked by a starlett in trouble. Reese something or other....and that she stabbed someone.
That joke went by this earlier. Made my early day happy.
How is everybody?
| 423 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:06:47am |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That joke went by this earlier. Made my early day happy.
How is everybody?
heya FVB ,,,, I'll be better in about 2 hours (about an hour from now I leave work,,,, 45 minute drive home ,,, put the dog out ,, change into my jammies and go to bed)
| 424 |
Scorch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:08:18am |
re: #421 Spare O'Lake
OMG....makes me want to jump into my 67 mustang and throw in the Are You Experienced 8 track tape.
Ok off for my nap.
| 425 |
razorbacker Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:08:40am |
re: #422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That joke went by this earlier. Made my early day happy.
How is everybody?
I don't think that there is an everybody, just now.
Kinda slow.
| 426 |
Crux Australis Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:10:18am |
How do I put pictures (or at least links to them) from my computer to LGF?
| 427 |
razorbacker Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:10:27am |
I've been clearing storm debris from the ice storm.
Now I've got a pile so big that I'm scared to set fire to it. Should rain today, if so I'll set fire to it then.
| 428 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:10:45am |
re: #425 razorbacker
My busiest time of the night shift. I tend to lurk a lot about now. :/
| 429 |
razorbacker Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:11:29am |
re: #426 Crux AustralisI think that you've first got to publish them at one of those photobucket.com kind of places first, then publish the link.
| 430 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:11:45am |
re: #426 Crux Australis
How do I put pictures (or at least links to them) from my computer to LGF?
I don't think you can. What most of us do is put it on a picture sharing website lick Flickr or Photo bucket and link from there.
| 431 |
3 wood Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:14:01am |
Good morning.
In market news, look for the market to open down as buyers remorse on the Porkulus Bill is taking hold already. Absolutely nothing in this bill deals with the basic toxic investment problem we have with the banks and until that problem is fixed, the rest means nothing.
I think we will get a very short term jump of the market after they pass this massive spending bill, but then the market will drop back down and we will have a very long and hard climb back out of this hole. Our grandkids will be paying for this.
| 432 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:14:39am |
Just watched Glenn Beck on F&F...
Man, this guy seems to be the one of the only sane ones left.
| 433 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:14:54am |
More than two people is an everybody. Lets see. I've got Blue. I've got Razor, Crux, TV...That's an everybody.
| 434 |
Crux Australis Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:15:38am |
re: #430 BlueCanuck
I don't think you can. What most of us do is put it on a picture sharing website lick Flickr or Photo bucket and link from there.
Thanks anyways. I was going to show a satellite image which showed the ash from the fires stretching from Australia to New Zealand (over 1200 miles away).
| 435 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:15:42am |
re: #432 TheMatrix31
Until last night. Boy went all "end of days, Revelation", from what I hear.
| 436 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:16:13am |
re: #433 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well almost everyone else is probably busy going to work, waking up, or getting ready to head home. Then there are the lucky few that are still asleep.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:16:18am |
re: #431 3 wood
I wonder if any politicians will have the balls to come out at the end of this year as the market rights itself with only 3% of the stimulus bill in the pipes and say we don;'t need the rest!
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razorbacker Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:16:36am |
Normally, I pretty much take things as I find them. www.theospark.net...]>Normally, I pretty much take things as I find them. But I have doubts about the accuracy of this sign, though.
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Claudia Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:17:01am |
Short clip worth the watch titles A Palestinian Myth:
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:17:28am |
re: #433 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
More than two people is an everybody. Lets see. I've got Blue. I've got Razor, Crux, TV...That's an everybody.
You obviously don't klnow me very well. I'm a chronic and serial 'nobody"
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:17:53am |
Final thought before I step out to gaze at the snow-capped mountains bathed in the glow of the full moon's light.
0bama and the Dems know this 'stimulus' isn't going to work- this was demonstrated last night when he fielded that hard-hitting question from the 'reporter' from that pullitzer-prize winning publication known as The Huffington Post.....
The one where he was asked about a South Africa-style truth and reconciliation commitee to investigate 'widespread abuses during the Bush Administration'. 0bama left the door open for such a comission that will probably get underway right around the same time the general public realizes what a dump-truck full of shit this 'stimulus' plan is and serve as a nice, juicy distraction thanks to his ball-washers in the MSM.
If Leahy's Stalin-esque show trials get underway in the next 6 months, expect them to continue to drag well into the 2010 election season...
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razorbacker Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:17:53am |
re: #433 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
More than two people is an everybody. Lets see. I've got Blue. I've got Razor, Crux, TV...That's an everybody.
It sounds more like a particularly challenged rock group, though.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:18:20am |
re: #435 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Until last night. Boy went all "end of days, Revelation", from what I hear.
He kind of had that just now too, about everything going to get messed up, but not for the same reasons as Obama is saying. Moreso the inflation and overall "cost" (not just monetary) of placing everything into the government's hands and allowing us to fear the government instead of the government fearing the people.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:19:32am |
re: #440 sattv4u2
You obviously don't klnow me very well. I'm a chronic and serial 'nobody"
Chronic? Maybe. Serial? Definitely. Nobody? Not even close to that one.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:20:23am |
re: #443 TheMatrix31
But, he never got to "Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!"
So it must be okay.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:21:34am |
re: #441 Fenway_Nation
They'll (Leahy) will find massive abuses of the Bush team. Staff members taking home blank Post-It pads for their personal use. Cabinet members getting personal e-mails from their children on gov't computers. A gardener who iknows a guy that has a cousin who lived next door to a person that hired an illegal alien housekeeper!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:21:49am |
re: #444 BlueCanuck
Chronic? Maybe. Serial? Definitely. Nobody? Not even close to that one.
Thanks BC
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:22:09am |
Crux? Been looking for the pics you have described. They sound cool. Figure it out, okay!?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:22:55am |
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razorbacker Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:22:57am |
re: #443 TheMatrix31
He kind of had that just now too, about everything going to get messed up, but not for the same reasons as Obama is saying. Moreso the inflation and overall "cost" (not just monetary) of placing everything into the government's hands and allowing us to fear the government instead of the government fearing the people.
No, the problem is in my #418. We're middleclass folks. If we're not paying federal taxes, there is a problem right there. Why worry about spending if we're not being taxed to pay for it?
I don't see what possibly could go wrong, here.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:24:25am |
I am still AMAZINGLY pissed off about the President of the United States of America calling on a reporter from the "Huffington Post".
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:25:10am |
re: #449 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But, for self-depreciating humor, it was good. Bullshit. But, good.
Thanks. I learned long ago if you can't make fun of yourself you don;t deserve to make fun of others!
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:25:59am |
re: #451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am still AMAZINGLY pissed off about the President of the United States of America calling on a reporter from the "Huffington Post".
Same here.
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:26:03am |
re: #438 razorbacker
Normally, I pretty much take things as I find them. Normally, I pretty much take things as I find them. But I have doubts about the accuracy of this sign, though.
Where are the other 67?
Good Morning Lizards!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:26:31am |
re: #451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am still AMAZINGLY pissed off about the President of the United States of America calling on a reporter from the "Huffington Post".
Wait till the next press conference
OBama
"I'll now take a question from the reporter Sally Muckenfuch from Craigslist"
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:26:34am |
So I've learned that for the first 2 weeks, 0bama and the dems are going to compare the last eight years in this country to Apartheid-era South Africa or Argentina's military junta to further inflate their already-oversized sense of self-importance.....
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:26:34am |
I am going out of town tonight for the first time in over a month. Freakin' beautiful....I have not slept in my own bed for 30 days in a row in over 15 years.
Yay, recession.
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:27:00am |
re: #451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am still AMAZINGLY pissed off about the President of the United States of America calling on a reporter from the "Huffington Post".
You mean Obama showed poor judgment? Shocking! //
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:27:42am |
re: #451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am still AMAZINGLY pissed off about the President of the United States of America calling on a reporter from the "Huffington Post".
Goes without saying.....but since you already said it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:29:11am |
re: #458 Ford_Prefect
You mean Obama showed poor judgment? Shocking! //
Not that it was poor judgment. This was planned. They had discussions, invited, made notes to call on, and called on, a reporter from a hate site.
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Jim in Virginia Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:29:46am |
Think about what Bambi has done. He's taken the most visible crisis (Bill Clinton 1992: "It's the economy, stupid") and used FDR's 76 year old playbook: Spend lots of money. It passed the House with most Democrats in support and no Republicans. It barely passed the Senate.
The more he talks, the lower his popularity goes. What are the chances that he can pass a major initiative on global climate change, energy independence, or heath reform? This is his high water mark. It's all downhill from here.
/crosses fingers.
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:30:12am |
re: #456 Fenway_Nation
So I've learned that for the first 2 weeks, 0bama and the dems are going to compare the last eight years in this country to Apartheid-era South Africa or Argentina's military junta to further inflate their already-oversized sense of self-importance.....
I changed the channel when it became clear that he was just going to blame everything on the last eight years. Too bad his history book doesn't go back any further, like to the Reagan administration, so he could see how a real recovery is supposed to work.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:30:26am |
re: #438 razorbacker
Linky no worky for me. :(
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razorbacker Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:31:41am |
re: #451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am still AMAZINGLY pissed off about the President of the United States of America calling on a reporter from the "Huffington Post".
I'm not at all. I see it as a 'shout out' to a vital, motivated, monied group of supporters who will be stoked at the attention.
It'd be like if the Minority Whip came prancing down the isle with a double-handfull of timber rattlers. You know, pimping to the base.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:32:05am |
re: #461 Jim in Virginia
Think about what Bambi has done. He's taken the most visible crisis (Bill Clinton 1992: "It's the economy, stupid") and used FDR's 76 year old playbook: Spend lots of money. It passed the House with most Democrats in support and no Republicans. It barely passed the Senate.
The more he talks, the lower his popularity goes. What are the chances that he can pass a major initiative on global climate change, energy independence, or heath reform? This is his high water mark. It's all downhill from here.
/crosses fingers.
As long as there are senators such as Collins and Spectre, the chances are pretty good, sadly
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:32:10am |
By the way (not that I am psychic) I reminded (taught) Lizards how to spell the plural of crisis (crises) before the election.
I was right; we need to know how to spell crisis in plural.
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Jim in Virginia Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:32:45am |
re: #433 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
More than two people is an everybody. Lets see. I've got Blue. I've got Razor, Crux, TV...That's an everybody.
What am I, a potted plant?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:33:29am |
re: #462 Ford_Prefect
I changed the channel when it became clear that he was just going to blame everything on the last eight years. Too bad his history book doesn't go back any further, like to the Reagan administration, so he could see how a real recovery is supposed to work.
Yeah. Next time anyone brings up this "last 8 years" shit....this should be the standard response:
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:33:48am |
re: #462 Ford_Prefect
Lars Larsen's talk show carried the first couple of minutes live with Lars voicing over during some 0bama's stuttering and trying to find weasel words. He pointed out the fact that Ed Shultz was in attendence with White House press credentials....
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razorbacker Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:33:57am |
re: #463 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Maybe you shouldn't be looking at Theo Spark's joint anyway. Lordy knows, I go every day, but I scroll over the nekkid womyn.
Slowly.
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Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:34:03am |
re: #466 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
By the way (not that I am psychic) I reminded (taught) Lizards how to spell the plural of crisis (crises) before the election.
I was right; we need to know how to spell crisis in plural.
Fucked?//
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monkeytime Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:35:07am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:35:26am |
re: #466 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
By the way (not that I am psychic) I reminded (taught) Lizards how to spell the plural of crisis (crises) before the election.
I was right; we need to know how to spell crisis in plural.
What I need to know is which banks in the Cayman islands I can hide some money in for the next 4 years
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:36:28am |
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monkeytime Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:36:56am |
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BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:37:10am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:37:20am |
re: #473 sattv4u2
What I need to know is which banks in the Cayman islands I can hide some money in for the next 4 years
You don't need no stinkin' bank. Send it to me. My pockets have a lot of room.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:37:22am |
re: #467 Jim in Virginia
What am I, a potted plant?
Sit still, will ya. i'm trying to water and prune you!
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Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:39:10am |
re: #477 BlueCanuck
So I take it all that white stuff just isn't cloud cover then.
That or Michael Phelps in in Oz.
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Render Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:39:30am |
Some lizards like to hide in the shadows. Some lizards cast their own shadows to hide within.
ADVANTAGE
OF
SURPRISE,
R
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:39:32am |
re: #480 Jim in Virginia
Test. New avatar.
You know, you look just like someone...I can't quite put my finger on whom, though.
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Crux Australis Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:40:35am |
re: #477 BlueCanuck
So I take it all that white stuff just isn't cloud cover then.
Just the brown stuff. The white is cloud.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:40:35am |
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:41:19am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:41:25am |
re: #484 Crux Australis
And another one that made me happy.
Why is the person trying to get the Koala drunk?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:42:43am |
well time to log off. Shift is done and time to brief people. See you all later, and stay scaly one and all.
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razorbacker Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:44:14am |
re: #491 BlueCanuck
well time to log off. Shift is done and time to brief people. See you all later, and stay scaly one and all.
Getting daylight. Hold the door, would 'cha?
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seekeroftruth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:47:23am |
Good morning. Senator Colburn on Bill Bennet's show this morning is talking about the coming health care fiasco in the stimulus bill ( the Bloomsberg.com article in the top links) among other bad things in this stimulus bill. He is saying the coming Senate vote needs 60 to pass and the fiscally conservative democrats should be targeted. He named Conrad Burns and Ben Nelson as two democrats "who should not be voting for this bill".
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:47:48am |
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:50:09am |
re: #484 Crux Australis
And another one that made me happy.
Crux, I sent that photo to Charles earlier - perhaps he'll use it for an open thread today
I thought it was a wonderful image too - so many photos of destruction and grief - and then this photo
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seekeroftruth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:51:47am |
re: #494 aussiemagpie
Good morning! I hope the fires are brought under control soon.My thoughts and prayers are with you and your country.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:52:58am |
re: #493 seekeroftruth
Good morning. Senator Colburn on Bill Bennet's show this morning is talking about the coming health care fiasco in the stimulus bill ( the Bloomsberg.com article in the top links) among other bad things in this stimulus bill. He is saying the coming Senate vote needs 60 to pass and the fiscally conservative democrats should be targeted. He named Conrad Burns and Ben Nelson as two democrats "who should not be voting for this bill".
I know my scumbag senator from PA shouldn't be voting for this bill, either, but he will. Just like a good RINO.
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:55:50am |
re: #496 seekeroftruth
Good morning! I hope the fires are brought under control soon.My thoughts and prayers are with you and your country.
Hello and thank you!
There are still some big fires burning in Victoria - it's cool weather now but another hot spell is forecast for the weekend
I've been reading some Aussie blogs I visit and there are a lot of messages of support from everywhere, including the US
And President Obama rang the PM too...
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:56:06am |
re: #497 Wyatt Earp
I know my scumbag senator from PA shouldn't be voting for this bill, either, but he will. Just like a good RINO.
Are you in Murthas district? I saw something yesterday where the FBI raided an office of someone who used to be on his staff
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sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:57:08am |
re: #497 Wyatt Earp
re: #499 sattv4u2
Are you in Murthas district? I saw something yesterday where the FBI raided an office of someone who used to be on his staff
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:57:19am |
re: #499 sattv4u2
Are you in Murthas district? I saw something yesterday where the FBI raided an office of someone who used to be on his staff
No, I'm in Philly. Murtha is in western PA - Home of the "racist bitter clingers." :)
Good news, though. I would love to see Murtha get his.
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summergurl Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:58:35am |
re: #493 seekeroftruth
Good morning. Senator Colburn on Bill Bennet's show this morning is talking about the coming health care fiasco in the stimulus bill ( the Bloomsberg.com article in the top links) among other bad things in this stimulus bill. He is saying the coming Senate vote needs 60 to pass and the fiscally conservative democrats should be targeted. He named Conrad Burns and Ben Nelson as two democrats "who should not be voting for this bill".
Morning All -
Seeker - that is exactly why I asked for the link to the stimulus bill yesterday- Rush had spoken about this on his segment - it is a crying shame that this isn't getting more exposure.
For ease of scrolling - here is the link to the Bloomberg article
National Health Care Here We Come
Personally I don't think the Dems are all too worried about BO winning a second term - it's how much they can put in place NOW and what they can do to change things in the future , like Rahm being in charge of the census (!) Talk about redistricting voters to make it more "balanced" for them....
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seekeroftruth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:58:48am |
re: #497 Wyatt Earp
I know my scumbag senator from PA shouldn't be voting for this bill, either, but he will. Just like a good RINO.
It's pathetic isn't it? I heard his interview on Hannity's radio show yesterday. I don't think he has thought about how many jobs that will be lost in Penn because of this bill. The pharmaceuticals industry, the construction companies that are not unionized, etc.....
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MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:59:49am |
Kaine v. Steele.
Steele.
Kaine looked like a hustler, like a school-yard bully.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:59:52am |
re: #503 seekeroftruth
It's pathetic isn't it? I heard his interview on Hannity's radio show yesterday. I don't think he has thought about how many jobs that will be lost in Penn because of this bill. The pharmaceuticals industry, the construction companies that are not unionized, etc.....
He doesn't care about people losing their jobs. He only cares about keeping his.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:00:45am |
re: #426 Crux Australis
How do I put pictures (or at least links to them) from my computer to LGF?
The same way you put links to anything else.
Are these your own pictures? If so, you could put them an album in one of the photo collection sites (shutterfly, or another one) and provide a link here to the album. I did this with photos of Gustav.
If the photo is on the web and has it's own URL, or is on a webpage, copy that URL and include a link to it in your post.
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MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:00:48am |
re: #497 Wyatt Earp
I know my scumbag senator from PA shouldn't be voting for this bill, either, but he will. Just like a good RINO.
Have you sent your wishes to him?
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:01:56am |
re: #507 MandyManners
Have you sent your wishes to him?
Yep, by e-mail and telephone call. Couldn't get through on the phone. Busy. Hopefully, that's a good thing.
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MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:06:17am |
re: #508 Wyatt Earp
Yep, by e-mail and telephone call. Couldn't get through on the phone. Busy. Hopefully, that's a good thing.
Not if it was off the hook.
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seekeroftruth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:06:27am |
re: #502 summergurl
Thanks for finding the link - in need of more coffee this morning. I am so glad Rush read that article yesterday. I had not seen it and it was shocking to hear what is still hidden in the stimulus bill.
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seekeroftruth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:07:34am |
re: #505 Wyatt Earp
He doesn't care about people losing their jobs. He only cares about keeping his.
Hopefully his job will be one of the ones lost in the near future.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:08:46am |
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:09:14am |
re: #511 seekeroftruth
Hopefully his job will be one of the ones lost in the near future.
From your lips to God's ears.
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Leonidas Hoplite Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:09:17am |
By the sound of things, I'm glad I opted to watch Good Eats with my son instead of The One's bloviating.
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opnion Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:10:37am |
Word up y'alll. No doubt everything has been said about the press conference, but I just want to chip in.
If you ask BHO a question about liightning, he will give you ten miutes on lightning bugs. He avoids the question & gets to demonstrate how brilliant he is. What a nose bleed!
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MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:13:26am |
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n in wi Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:14:22am |
re: #515 opnion
Word up y'alll. No doubt everything has been said about the press conference, but I just want to chip in.
If you ask BHO a question about liightning, he will give you ten miutes on lightning bugs. He avoids the question & gets to demonstrate how brilliant he is. What a nose bleed!
The last 8 years are responsible for inferior lightening. My administration will direct lightening to strike the earth in a safer,smarter location.
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SurferDoc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:16:13am |
Good morning from the Mojave, where it is freezin'-ass cold. Thank God for coffee. Are we still a republic?
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Leonidas Hoplite Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:17:23am |
This is interesting development on rendition....
The Obama Administration today announced that it would keep the same position as the Bush Administration in the lawsuit Mohamed et al v Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc.
The case involves five men who claim to have been victims of extraordinary rendition -- including current Guantanamo detainee Binyam Mohamed, another plaintiff in jail in Egypt, one in jail in Morocco, and two now free. They sued a San Jose Boeing subsidiary, Jeppesen Dataplan, accusing the flight-planning company of aiding the CIA in flying them to other countries and secret CIA camps where they were tortured.
A year ago the case was thrown out on the basis of national security, but today the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals heard the appeal, brought by the ACLU.
A source inside of the Ninth U.S. District Court tells ABC News that a representative of the Justice Department stood up to say that its position hasn't changed, that new administration stands behind arguments that previous administration made, with no ambiguity at all. The DOJ lawyer said the entire subject matter remains a state secret.
This is not going to please civil libertarians and human rights activists who had hoped the Obama administration would allow the lawsuit to proceed.
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Leonidas Hoplite Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:18:45am |
re: #518 SurferDoc
Good morning from the Mojave, where it is freezin'-ass cold. Thank God for coffee. Are we still a republic?
Good morning, and yes, at least like Rome was while Ceasar was crossing the Rubicon, except instead of Ceasar we have Obama and Porkulus...
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:18:48am |
re: #516 MandyManners
He's as useful as tits on a boar hog.
If anyone needs to be told to "piss up a rope," it's him. :)
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opnion Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:19:17am |
re: #517 n in wi
The last 8 years are responsible for inferior lightening. My administration will direct lightening to strike the earth in a safer,smarter location.
However fat cats that have been enjoying the bulk of ther lightening will need to share with regular Americans.
This will not be easy, but if we pull together, we can all enjoy the lightening.
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clear vision Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:20:04am |
Y'know, it's raining cats and dogs here in Israel, on Election Day.
Really good news for more than one reason.
It's been a very dry, scary winter.
Maybe some lefties will be put off of voting.
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:20:19am |
Looks like you have the same version of Dear Leader as we do....
PM Rudd in action
Example of Ruddspeak
There has to be a greater synergy between, let’s call it our policy leadership in this, which has been focused so much, legitimately, on targets and global architecture, almost reverse-engineered back to the means by which you can quickly deliver outcomes, and on the demand side in our economy we’re looking at potential advances in terms of 20 to 25% range if you do this across the board. It all takes cost, but let me tell you it’s probably the quickest lever you can pull given the challenges we face.
?
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Teacake! Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:20:48am |
I heard Big O's lecture on the radio last night. Just a little of it. He made me feel doomed to listen for too long. What it sounded like was it was Bushs failed policies that have got us in this mess, but then he later says the problem began with the bankers. Did he bother to say the past 8 years had anything to do with the policies voted in by the same old failed Senators and Congress assholes that are still making policy?
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:21:33am |
re: #525 Teacake!
I heard Big O's lecture on the radio last night. Just a little of it. He made me feel doomed to listen for too long. What it sounded like was it was Bushs failed policies that have got us in this mess, but then he later says the problem began with the bankers. Did he bother to say the past 8 years had anything to do with the policies voted in by the same old failed Senators and Congress assholes that are still making policy?
If Bush make the same speech, the media would have crucified him for being a doom-monger.
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opnion Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:21:58am |
re: #523 clear vision
Y'know, it's raining cats and dogs here in Israel, on Election Day.
Really good news for more than one reason.
It's been a very dry, scary winter.
Maybe some lefties will be put off of voting.
I am pretty sure that BiBi does not believe that the Massiah has yet come.
For that & lots of reasons , he will not get along well with BHO.
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n in wi Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:23:24am |
re: #522 opnion
However fat cats that have been enjoying the bulk of ther lightening will need to share with regular Americans.
This will not be easy, but if we pull together, we can all enjoy the lightening.
Yes, we need to spread the lightening around.
Those receiving more than 250,000 volts,will need to give up some that have less.It's the patriotic thing to do.
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gregg Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:24:00am |
re: #497 Wyatt Earp
I know my scumbag senator from PA shouldn't be voting for this bill, either, but he will. Just like a good RINO.
At times I think, "what are you good people of PA doing, sending Murtha and Specter to DC?", but then I remember we're about to send Franken there and I just shut my mouth.
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opnion Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:24:26am |
re: #528 n in wi
Yes, we need to spread the lightening around.
Those receiving more than 250,000 volts,will need to give up some that have less.It's the patriotic thing to do.
Undocumented citizens will get an enhanced portion.
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rightside Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:24:26am |
re: #524 aussiemagpie
Remarkably similar. All that spewed, and nothing really said of substance.
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SurferDoc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:24:30am |
re: #520 Leonidas Hoplite
Good morning, and yes, at least like Rome was while Ceasar was crossing the Rubicon, except instead of Ceasar we have Obama and Porkulus...
Oh. That didn't go very well for Rome or Caesar. This could get ugly.
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clear vision Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:24:37am |
re: #527 opnion
re: #527 opnion
I am pretty sure that BiBi does not believe that the Massiah has yet come.
For that & lots of reasons , he will not get along well with BHO.
I think you're right. But I seriously hope that enough of the staunch right-wingers on the Likud's list make it into the Knesset. To keep Bibi honest.
| 534 |
Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:25:22am |
re: #529 gregg
At times I think, "what are you good people of PA doing, sending Murtha and Specter to DC?", but then I remember we're about to send Franken there and I just shut my mouth.
I have never voted for Specter, and Murtha is not in my district - Thank God. I feel badly for the good people who didn't vote for Murtha and are stuck with him.
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kcladderman Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:28:04am |
All I can say is I am glad we have a government to fix the problem.
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Government is the only thing that can fix this you know.
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opnion Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:28:27am |
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:28:43am |
re: #535 kcladderman
All I can say is I am glad we have a government to fix the problem.
//
Government is the only thing that can fix this you know.
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Aargh! You screwed the template again with the slashes!
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rightside Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:29:35am |
re: #537 Wyatt Earp
That was spare o lake yesterday I think!
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:30:02am |
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Teacake! Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:30:12am |
He keeps saying that WE have to work together, so why does it feel like we're being raped and held up at gunpoint?
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Lincolntf Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:30:39am |
Morning all.
I see that you guys had running conversations during Obama's news conference last night. I assume everything has already been covered and re-covered, but one thing I took away from it is that his reputation as a "gifted orator" is out the window. I'm particularly thinking of a few friends/rels who always supported him by saying "He's a great speaker" when they couldn't intellectually justify voting for him. Some of them are bright people, and must realize now that they've been sold a bill of goods.
| 543 |
Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:30:41am |
re: #541 Teacake!
He keeps saying that WE have to work together, so why does it feel like we're being raped and held up at gunpoint?
Embrace the CHANGE! :)
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Leonidas Hoplite Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:31:05am |
There is a thread at Kos Kooks with some awesomely awesome comments expressing disillusionment, disappointment, blah blah blah regarding Obama's rendition policy. I beg forgiveness for linking to these wackos but it has been entertaining!
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:31:44am |
re: #544 Leonidas Hoplite
There is a thread at Kos Kooks with some awesomely awesome comments expressing disillusionment, disappointment, blah blah blah regarding Obama's rendition policy. I beg forgiveness for linking to these wackos but it has been entertaining!
Oh, that's a shame. Bawahahahahahahahaha!
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kcladderman Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:32:29am |
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Teacake! Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:32:41am |
that his reputation as a "gifted orator" is out the window.
LOL he sounded like a spoofer doing an SNL skit.
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rightside Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:33:43am |
re: #542 Lincolntf
I agree. Those pauses between every two to three words are not those of someone who is "thoughtful" and "a high intellect", but rather of someone who is desperately grasping for words to use.
| 549 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:33:44am |
re: #542 Lincolntf
I hope you're right.
I watched the rerun at 5 this morning.
I wish I hadn't.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:33:52am |
re: #546 kcladderman
?
Too many slashes. In IE, the left sidebar is now below the comments. Spare O'Lake did that yesterday.
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:34:25am |
re: #531 rightside
Remarkably similar. All that spewed, and nothing really said of substance.
Hi, I just can't bear to listen to the man anymore - it's all waffle, waffle, waffle
He's boring us into submission...
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rightside Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:34:31am |
re: #546 kcladderman
yesterday during the daytime thread, someone posted a bunch of slashes like you did, now those who use IE can see the page as being FUBAR.
| 553 |
rightside Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:35:26am |
re: #551 aussiemagpie
That's bad if he is boring you down under :^)
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clear vision Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:35:54am |
re: #536 opnion
I am afraid that Livni & Obama would get along too well.
You are right again. But I'm praying that we Israelis do NOT screw up so badly as to get her as PM.
You know, her brother was campaigning against her.
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gregg Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:36:02am |
Has this been covered here?
one of those myriad "presidential directives" provides for 20 million dollars to help "refugees from Gaza" relocate in the United States.
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]
Sweet, I hope Hamas sets up shop in my neighborhood (/sarc).
| 556 |
nevergiveup Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:36:40am |
Good morning all. Not that my day is gonna be anything to brag about. This is my LONG day. Ya know the kind of day if a thermonuclear bomb detonated over my office today my only reaction would be--Thank G-D.
| 557 |
aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:38:04am |
re: #538 rightside
The big red one on the right, the Churchill fire, which so far has killed 21 people, was definitely arson and news is that the person who lit this fire is close to being caught
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:38:21am |
re: #556 nevergiveup
Good morning all. Not that my day is gonna be anything to brag about. This is my LONG day. Ya know the kind of day if a thermonuclear bomb detonated over my office today my only reaction would be--Thank G-D.
Oh, golly!
Please cheer up a little bit.
Think of how great it will feel when the day is over. Or something.
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kcladderman Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:39:31am |
re: #544 Leonidas Hoplite
There is a thread at Kos Kooks with some awesomely awesome comments expressing disillusionment, disappointment, blah blah blah regarding Obama's rendition policy. I beg forgiveness for linking to these wackos but it has been entertaining!
I have a young friend, a fellow firefighter who was a big Obama supporter. I had not seen him for a few weeks. One of the first things he said to us when I saw him the other day. So who's ready for a new president?
He then went on to ask if I had heard what the one had said about rendition?
He said well there goes the fourth amendment. I then pointed out to him that terrorists from other countries are not afforded rights under the Constitution. he then mumbled something about well yea and changed the subject.
| 560 |
kcladderman Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:40:17am |
re: #550 Wyatt Earp
Too many slashes. In IE, the left sidebar is now below the comments. Spare O'Lake did that yesterday.
Ah so sorry.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:40:52am |
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njdhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:40:56am |
re: #557 aussiemagpie
The big red one on the right, the Churchill fire, which so far has killed 21 people, was definitely arson and news is that the person who lit this fire is close to being caught
I wonder if they arsonist is holed up in the local mosque.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:41:11am |
re: #555 gregg
Well, I feel safe now.
Presidential directives ----pfffttt.
I hear one of them is all copies of the game of Life sold in the U.S. now come with negative numbers on the spinners.
| 565 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:41:19am |
re: #555 gregg
Has this been covered here?
one of those myriad "presidential directives" provides for 20 million dollars to help "refugees from Gaza" relocate in the United States.[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]
Sweet, I hope Hamas sets up shop in my neighborhood (/sarc).
The "refugees" have been "refugees" for what, 60 years now?
That's a lifetime.
Doncha think by now they would have figured out how to stop being "refugees" and start being "productive members of society"?
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:41:40am |
re: #553 rightside
That's bad if he is boring you down under :^)
Why can't WE have a gifted, brilliant orator like Obama?
/////
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:42:14am |
re: #566 aussiemagpie
Why can't WE have a gifted, brilliant orator like Obama?
/////
You're so funny!
What time is it, btw, in your neck of the woods?
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:42:20am |
re: #566 aussiemagpie
Why can't WE have a gifted, brilliant orator like Obama?
/////
You could probably find one in a kangaroo's pouch . . .
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saberry0530 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:43:04am |
re: #566 aussiemagpie
Why can't WE have a gifted, brilliant orator like Obama?
/////
We'll gladly export him if ya want!
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Crux Australis Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:44:08am |
re: #551 aussiemagpie
Hi, I just can't bear to listen to the man anymore - it's all waffle, waffle, waffle
He's boring us into submission...
As much as I don't like Rudd (as compared to Howard) Australia would get Julia Gillard as PM if anything happened to Rudd. Have you heard her give a speech? Gaah!
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:44:11am |
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rightside Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:44:25am |
re: #557 aussiemagpie
What a tragedy, I hope that catch them. Too bad you don't have a death penalty.
I just can't imagine the magnitude of those fires. Let's face it, Oz is ginormous. I was fortunate to visit Sydney iin '03, and loved it. Our thoughts and prayers go out to all over there.
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SurferDoc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:45:33am |
re: #556 nevergiveup
Good morning all. Not that my day is gonna be anything to brag about. This is my LONG day. Ya know the kind of day if a thermonuclear bomb detonated over my office today my only reaction would be--Thank G-D.
Good luck! That's the way my Thursdays are.
| 574 |
aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:46:01am |
re: #563 njdhockeyfan
I wonder if they arsonist is holed up in the local mosque.
Whoever did this, will have to be locked up forever, in solitary confinement, because people are VERY VERY angry
One punishment mentioned on a blog here in OZ:
Put arsonist in a room with firefighters and fire survivors
Leave room for 10 minutes
Return, pick up pieces, take to morgue
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kcladderman Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:46:58am |
re: #574 aussiemagpie
Whoever did this, will have to be locked up forever, in solitary confinement, because people are VERY VERY angry
One punishment mentioned on a blog here in OZ:
Put arsonist in a room with firefighters and fire survivors
Leave room for 10 minutes
Return, pick up pieces, take to morgue
Sounds quite reasonable to me.
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Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:47:35am |
One day a man came home from work to find total chaos in the house. The kids were laying outside in the mud, still in their pajamas, and empty food boxes were on the kitchen counter.
When he opened the door, he found an even bigger mess: dishes on the counter, dog food spilled on the floor, a broken glass under the table and a pile of sand by the back door. The family room was strewn with toys, and a lamp had been knocked over.
He headed up the stairs, stepping over toys, to look for his wife.
He was becoming worried that she might be ill or that something terrible had happened to her.
He found her in the bedroom still in bed with her pajamas on, reading a book. She looked up at him, smiled and asked how his day had gone. He looked at her, bewildered, and asked, "What happened here today?"
She again smiled and answered, "You know, every day, you come home from work and ask me what I did today."
"Yes" was his reply.
She answered, "Well, today, I didn't do it!"
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:48:09am |
re: #567 reine.de.tout
You're so funny!
What time is it, btw, in your neck of the woods?
Hello {reine}
It's now 12.47am on Thursday - two more sleeps and it's the weekend :-)
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:49:03am |
OOPS
It's only Wednesday here - wishful thinking :-)
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:49:11am |
Good Morning!
American Thinker has a really good pierce on Obama this morning entitled:
"Change: The First Three Weeks"
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
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Lincolntf Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:49:14am |
re: #544 Leonidas Hoplite
I finally cracked and registered at Kos because of your linked article.
It'll be 24 hours until I'm allowed to post (and probably 24 seconds after that before I get banned), but I'm looking forward to it. The pretzeling of the minds that their love of Obama and hatred of America has produced is mildly fascinating to me, particularly on the rendition issue.
| 581 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:49:44am |
Wow...step away for a few minutes to get some *work (tm)* done and the thread comes alive. Y'all been waiting for me to leave?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:50:52am |
Mandy, missed you last night on the "Obama Speaks" threads.
Could you believe he called on Huffpo?
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Lincolntf Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:52:44am |
re: #584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
When he called on that (very nervous) reporter from HuffPo, I laughed out loud. I don't know why it struck me as so funny, but it did.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:53:14am |
re: #584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mandy, missed you last night on the "Obama Speaks" threads.
Could you believe he called on Huffpo?
That was effin' incredible.
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nyc redneck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:53:29am |
good morning everyone,
i got a reprieve. i got a 20% reduction in my rent.
this is so important because it gives me a little breathing room
and it is uplifting to know that greed isn't completely ruling the day.
(no matter what O is trying to do to demoralize us)
| 589 |
aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:53:32am |
re: #568 Wyatt Earp
You could probably find one in a kangaroo's pouch . . .
Goodness, no way! Joeys are cute cuddly little things :-)
| 590 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:54:13am |
re: #588 nyc redneck
Could you talk to my bank?
| 591 |
Leonidas Hoplite Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:54:43am |
re: #580 Lincolntf
I finally cracked and registered at Kos because of your linked article.
It'll be 24 hours until I'm allowed to post (and probably 24 seconds after that before I get banned), but I'm looking forward to it. The pretzeling of the minds that their love of Obama and hatred of America has produced is mildly fascinating to me, particularly on the rendition issue.
You are a brave soul!
| 592 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:54:58am |
re: #588 nyc redneck
Good for you.
| 593 |
A Man for all Seasons Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:55:00am |
Good morning Lizards! How is everyone today?
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:55:01am |
re: #569 saberry0530
We'll gladly export him if ya want!
We'll do a swap but no one would notice the difference...of course the accent would be a dead giveaway
| 596 |
njdhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:56:18am |
Anyone see this?
Reid Blocks Amendment Requiring Citizenship Verification for Stimulus Recipients
GOP Sen. Jeff Sessions and Democrat Sen. Ben Nelson attempted several times to bring their bipartisan amendment to the floor last week. SA 239 would require local governments and businesses that receive porkulus money to use the federal E-Verify citizenship check system.
On the House side, a long term extension of the E-Verify program passed there 407-2 (Conservative Oasis).
But Democrat Sen More... Majority Leader Harry Reid refused to allow it to come to the floor. Now, we’re headed for cloture.
| 597 |
yochanan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:57:11am |
re: #574 aussiemagpie
Whoever did this, will have to be locked up forever, in solitary confinement, because people are VERY VERY angry
One punishment mentioned on a blog here in OZ:
Put arsonist in a room with firefighters and fire survivors
Leave room for 10 minutes
Return, pick up pieces, take to morgue
GIVE 'UM MORE TIME
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:57:21am |
re: #570 Crux Australis
As much as I don't like Rudd (as compared to Howard) Australia would get Julia Gillard as PM if anything happened to Rudd. Have you heard her give a speech? Gaah!
Crux, Jules is even more boring than Rudd!
To be fair, she did give a good speech in Parliament on Monday
| 599 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:57:32am |
re: #596 njdhockeyfan
Anyone see this?
Reid Blocks Amendment Requiring Citizenship Verification for Stimulus Recipients
Whatcha doin' for lunch today. I'll be at Chili's.
| 600 |
rightside Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:58:07am |
re: #596 njdhockeyfan
Look at all the groups they have to repay to elect cbbho.
| 601 |
Erik The Red Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:58:08am |
re: #593 HoosierHoops
Good morning Lizards! How is everyone today?
Hey 2H. Morning. I am just about to end my day by going to the pub and then home. Hope you have a good one.
| 602 |
SurferDoc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:58:41am |
re: #593 HoosierHoops
Hiya, HH! Hanging on, how about you?
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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Feb 10, 2009 5:59:42am |
re: #596 njdhockeyfan
Anyone see this?
Reid Blocks Amendment Requiring Citizenship Verification for Stimulus Recipients
A trillion to donuts this cockroach uses Secret and pees sitting down.
I despise that moron.
| 604 |
Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:01:21am |
re: #584 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mandy, missed you last night on the "Obama Speaks" threads.
Could you believe he called on Huffpo?
What's next? Will he call on Perez Hilton?
| 605 |
Leonidas Hoplite Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:01:39am |
re: #559 kcladderman
I have a young friend, a fellow firefighter who was a big Obama supporter. I had not seen him for a few weeks. One of the first things he said to us when I saw him the other day. So who's ready for a new president?
He then went on to ask if I had heard what the one had said about rendition?
He said well there goes the fourth amendment. I then pointed out to him that terrorists from other countries are not afforded rights under the Constitution. he then mumbled something about well yea and changed the subject.
Yeah I don't understand that line of reasoning at all...the whole everyone in the world is guaranteed the rights of US citizenship along with the treat them as POWs even though they don't abide by the Geneva Convention. In another era not so long ago these peple would have received muhc different treatment, instead of Club Gitmo with brand new shrink-wrapped korans, three hots and a cot.
| 606 |
nyc redneck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:02:20am |
re: #592 SasquatchOnSteroids
Good for you.
thank you.
i feel fortunate.
maybe i'll get a paycheck again.
:)
| 607 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:02:28am |
re: #588 nyc redneck
good morning everyone,
i got a reprieve. i got a 20% reduction in my rent.
this is so important because it gives me a little breathing room
and it is uplifting to know that greed isn't completely ruling the day.
(no matter what O is trying to do to demoralize us)
Do you live in Manhattan? Are you rent stabilized? I lived there until last year. My rent was up to $2,650 a month for a 500 square foot apartment.
| 608 |
aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:03:28am |
re: #572 rightside
What a tragedy, I hope that catch them. Too bad you don't have a death penalty.
I just can't imagine the magnitude of those fires. Let's face it, Oz is ginormous. I was fortunate to visit Sydney iin '03, and loved it. Our thoughts and prayers go out to all over there.
Yes it's been unimagineable for all of us who live in other places here too
I'm not the only one moved to tears at times, and one thing - there is massive support from the public - tonight at the cricket match between the Kiws and the Aussies, over $6 million was raised - just at the match! From spectators, corporates, players giving their match payments...incredible
Glad to see you enjoyed our town too :-)
| 609 |
Bloodnok Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:04:18am |
re: #588 nyc redneck
good morning everyone,
i got a reprieve. i got a 20% reduction in my rent.
this is so important because it gives me a little breathing room
and it is uplifting to know that greed isn't completely ruling the day.
(no matter what O is trying to do to demoralize us)
w00t!
| 610 |
aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:09:01am |
re: #597 yochanan
GIVE 'UM MORE TIME
Ten minutes would be plenty I reckon - most likely 10 seconds would suffice ...
| 611 |
njdhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:09:04am |
Another rat joins the Obama WH team...
EXCLUSIVE: Partisan dirt-digger joins WH office
Amid the furor over controversies regarding Cabinet-nominee tax problems and the seismic battle over a nearly trillion-dollar economic rescue bill, President Obama made a little-noticed appointment that is now generating intrigue.
Shauna Daly, a 29-year-old Democratic operative, was named last month to the new job of White House counsel research director. Though she is inside one of the most powerful legal offices in the land, Miss Daly holds no law degree and doesn't list any legal training on her resume.
Her sole experience has been as an opposition researcher for Democratic political campaigns: She helped dig up dirt on rivals, or on her own nominee to prepare for attacks.
The addition to White House counsel Greg Craig's staff has alarmed some Republicans, who consider it a politicization of the office, and has irritated others who say that Democratic lawmakers who railed against Republican opposition researchers in legal positions in the past are now silent.
"Daly does not have the qualifications to be holding a significant position in the White House counsel's office," said Mark Levin, a conservative lawyer and radio-show host who worked in the Reagan White House and as chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese.
"Her only qualification is that she knows how to dig up dirt on other people," he said.
| 612 |
SurferDoc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:10:22am |
President Porkzilla is being hammered all over the internet today. This must be the shortest "honeymoon" in history.
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Ojoe Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:10:24am |
The cold snowy dawn o the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.
Good morning all.
Remember to eat a small breakfast, so other countries will say "OK".
sarc sarc sarc
| 614 |
A Man for all Seasons Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:11:44am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:14:36am |
re: #596 njdhockeyfan
So, walk into Chili's (you know the city) at noon, go to the bar and say, "Hey, you bastid!" I'll buy lunch!
| 616 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:15:10am |
re: #607 Afrocity
Do you live in Manhattan? Are you rent stabilized? I lived there until last year. My rent was up to $2,650 a month for a 500 square foot apartment.
You in Chi-town, where everyone is Shy and polite or is it the Land of Shysters?
Lived in Hyde Park/Kenwood for 10 years with intervening time off for bad behavior.
| 617 |
Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:15:19am |
re: #612 SurferDoc
President Porkzilla is being hammered all over the internet today. This must be the shortest "honeymoon" in history.
And it's only been three weeks. HopeChange!
| 618 |
nyc redneck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:15:49am |
re: #607 Afrocity
Do you live in Manhattan? Are you rent stabilized? I lived there until last year. My rent was up to $2,650 a month for a 500 square foot apartment.
yes, no.
my commercial space was reduced not my apt.
tho i think those are going down too, maybe not as much.
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:17:23am |
re: #616 lifeofthemind
You in Chi-town, where everyone is Shy and polite or is it the Land of Shysters?
Lived in Hyde Park/Kenwood for 10 years with intervening time off for bad behavior.
I guess I am one of the shy and polite ones.
| 620 |
njdhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:17:24am |
re: #615 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So, walk into Chili's (you know the city) at noon, go to the bar and say, "Hey, you bastid!" I'll buy lunch!
In C-ville?
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yochanan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:18:26am |
re: #610 aussiemagpie
Ten minutes would be plenty I reckon - most likely 10 seconds would suffice ...
Let'um feel the pain slow is better.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:20:41am |
re: #618 nyc redneck
yes, no.
my commercial space was reduced not my apt.
tho i think those are going down too, maybe not as much.
Great news, yes the market works. Costs go down, there is stickiness but it should be less with modern technology, so people can save money. That gives the banks more capital that they have to lend. That drives the interest rates down. That allows people to borrow and spend. Repeat cycle, without trillion dollar government spending binge.
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njdhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:21:22am |
It's going to be a long 4 years. Read this shit...
Multicultural Educators "Celebrate Diversity" In The Age Of Obama
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:21:48am |
re: #620 njdhockeyfan
yep! You will be the first lizard I have ever met in person.
| 625 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:21:58am |
re: #619 Afrocity
I guess I am one of the shy and polite ones.
Hope you enjoy Powell's and O'Gara's.
| 626 |
njdhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:22:43am |
re: #624 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
yep! You will be the first lizard I have ever met in person.
You will buy an unemployed lizard lunch? Cool!
| 627 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:23:15am |
Good morning all!
Anybody else loose sleep last night because of the One's presser?
I did.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:23:30am |
re: #626 njdhockeyfan
You will buy an unemployed lizard lunch? Cool!
Cool! Like I said, come into the bar, look around like you are hunting for someone, I'll be the fat guy that says, "Hey!"
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yochanan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:24:07am |
is there a kitchen sink in the PORKULUS bill? seems everything else is. i mean if it was to build roads and things the govt is supposed to do it would not bother me but mostly it is the democrat agenda wrapped like a dead stinky fish maybe that is why the 'best journalists in the new york times' go with stinky fish so well.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:24:17am |
re: #628 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Cool! Like I said, come into the bar, look around like you are hunting for someone, I'll be the fat guy that says, "Hey!"
Ya gotta have code words. Wear a pink carnation. Something...
| 631 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:24:19am |
re: #627 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good morning all!
Anybody else loose sleep last night because of the One's presser?
I did.
I slept like a baby.
Slept a little, wet the bed a little, cried a little.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:24:35am |
re: #623 njdhockeyfan
It's going to be a long 4 years. Read this shit...
Multicultural Educators "Celebrate Diversity" In The Age Of Obama
Jesus wept.
This year’s NAME program included a "Hurricane Katrina Tour" for $28.75—billed as "an eyewitness account of the events surrounding the most devastating natural and man-made disaster on American soil."
Man-made disaster. We're fooked.
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SurferDoc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:25:08am |
re: #631 lifeofthemind
I slept like a baby.
Slept a little, wet the bed a little, cried a little.
LOL! I only whined a bit when I woke up.
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:25:28am |
re: #627 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good morning all!
Anybody else loose sleep last night because of the One's presser?
I did.
I slept OK. My realization after the presser was that America elected a whiny petulant child as president. It looks like "Blame Bush" isn't going away anytime soon and my guess is the worse the economy gets because of this "porkulus" bill, the more Obama will blame Bush. What a brat.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:25:38am |
re: #629 yochanan
is there a kitchen sink in the PORKULUS bill? seems everything else is. i mean if it was to build roads and things the govt is supposed to do it would not bother me but mostly it is the democrat agenda wrapped like a dead stinky fish maybe that is why the 'best journalists in the new york times' go with stinky fish so well.
So here's a question ... if you just lost your banking job, or you're one of the 10,000 "white collar" workers to be cut by GM, what good does a road crew job do you?
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Ojoe Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:26:06am |
re: #627 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I got up at 4 in the morning to work on promotion because there's no jobs in my office.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:26:06am |
re: #630 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Ya gotta have code words. Wear a pink carnation. Something...
I'll be wearing a purple polo shirt (actually, it's Virginia Lilac, but it would be gay if I sad that).
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:26:08am |
re: #625 lifeofthemind
Hope you enjoy Powell's and O'Gara's.
Can't say I am familiar with those places. Bars?
I am more the bookish type
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Ojoe Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:26:45am |
re: #629 yochanan
There should be a disposal in the kitchen sink.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:26:55am |
re: #637 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'll be wearing a purple polo shirt (actually, it's Virginia Lilac, but it would be
gaymetro if I sad that).
FTFY
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:27:06am |
re: #635 OldLineTexan
So here's a question ... if you just lost your banking job, or you're one of the 10,000 "white collar" workers to be cut by GM, what good does a road crew job do you?
Uh...zero point zero.
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n in wi Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:27:33am |
re: #635 OldLineTexan
So here's a question ... if you just lost your banking job, or you're one of the 10,000 "white collar" workers to be cut by GM, what good does a road crew job do you?
The new Gov. worker can drive on the road to hand deliver your benefits.
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FrogMarch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:27:39am |
re: #103 Fenway_Nation
My apologies if this came up before, but how insecure does 0bama have to be to stack the deck even more in his favor by issuing White House press credentials to Ed Schultz and a 'reporter' from the Huffington Post?
Ed Schultz? really? Incredible -
Obama and the left are, in general, very scared of anyone who might question them or put them on the spot.
Related observation I made yesterday --
One of our new US senators (Mark Udall (D)) is comfortable as a guest on AM radio shows like Air America. He Never agrees to go on any of the more conservative local talk shows. Anyway, Udall agreed yesterday a quick interview on the Caplis and Silverman show. (mix of conservative/liberal). The first thing Mark said is "Craig - are you there?". Craig is the "liberal" of the two.
Mark would never agree to go on the show otherwise.
Liberal/progressive/leftists are terrified to be in the same room with someone who isn't part of the group think.
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MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:28:01am |
re: #627 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good morning all!
Anybody else loose sleep last night because of the One's presser?
I did.
The MUTE button is your friend.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:28:02am |
re: #641 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Uh...zero point zero.
I was afraid of that. So how much of the Porkulus will go home to Mexico?
/rhetorical question
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aussiemagpie Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:28:03am |
re: #623 njdhockeyfan
It's going to be a long 4 years. Read this shit...
Multicultural Educators "Celebrate Diversity" In The Age Of Obama
Thank you for this link - it's made me wonder why some people insist on living in the US, when there are plenty of countries much more suited to their ideologies
And these people are educators?
Of course they consider themselves revolutionaries I suppose
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lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:28:38am |
re: #629 yochanan
is there a kitchen sink in the PORKULUS bill? seems everything else is. i mean if it was to build roads and things the govt is supposed to do it would not bother me but mostly it is the democrat agenda wrapped like a dead stinky fish maybe that is why the 'best journalists in the new york times' go with stinky fish so well.
Kitchen sinks will be included in the energy efficient refurbishment of government offices that BHO was calling for. You know that this will prove to be a massive pot of waste and fraud with favored special interest contractors swallowing billions to slap insulation and badly installed solar panels onto every tower, garage and out house in the federal inventory.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:28:43am |
re: #635 OldLineTexan
So here's a question ... if you just lost your banking job, or you're one of the 10,000 "white collar" workers to be cut by GM, what good does a road crew job do you?
Keeps you down and out and dependent.
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MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:28:51am |
re: #635 OldLineTexan
So here's a question ... if you just lost your banking job, or you're one of the 10,000 "white collar" workers to be cut by GM, what good does a road crew job do you?
What's wrong with work?
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Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:28:51am |
re: #626 njdhockeyfan
You will buy an unemployed lizard lunch? Cool!
I'll chip in, were are we going?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:28:52am |
re: #634 Jetpilot1101
I slept OK. My realization after the presser was that America elected a whiny petulant child as president. It looks like "Blame Bush" isn't going away anytime soon and my guess is the worse the economy gets because of this "porkulus" bill, the more Obama will blame Bush. What a brat.
The "blame bush" thing is going to get really old. Nothing will ever be his responsibility. It will always be "worse then we were led to believe."
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nyc redneck Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:29:28am |
re: #622 lifeofthemind
Great news, yes the market works. Costs go down, there is stickiness but it should be less with modern technology, so people can save money. That gives the banks more capital that they have to lend. That drives the interest rates down. That allows people to borrow and spend. Repeat cycle, without trillion dollar government spending binge.
hey {life},
you are exactly right.
that is why if feel hopeful. this is how it is supposed to work.
i am seeing the lesson right in front of me.
i'm going to call the whitehouse and try to educate O.
like that is a possibility. these idiots need to stay out of our lives.
them and their power/money grab.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:29:52am |
re: #637 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'll be wearing a purple polo shirt (actually, it's Virginia Lilac, but it would be gay if I sad that).
OK, so he's supposed to look for the "gay fat guy that says hey".
That's a little better.
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:30:15am |
My favorite line from last night was (and I'm paraphrasing) "we are going to spend 4 billion dollars to make government buildings more energy efficient and this will save the taxpayers 2 billion dollars". I don't know about you but if my broker called me and told me he had a great investment that would retunr -50%, I'd drag him out back and shoot him.
| 655 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:30:44am |
re: #628 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Cool! Like I said, come into the bar, look around like you are hunting for someone, I'll be the fat guy that says, "Hey!"
Should I wear green?
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yochanan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:31:04am |
re: #635 OldLineTexan
So here's a question ... if you just lost your banking job, or you're one of the 10,000 "white collar" workers to be cut by GM, what good does a road crew job do you?
in directly, they get paid have to send it on something that provides jobs too.
frankly what bothers me the most about this bill is that the donks are using it for cover to pass everything they want that has nothing to do with providing jobs etc. for example the new health care gov't rules.
| 657 |
MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:31:10am |
re: #623 njdhockeyfan
It's going to be a long 4 years. Read this shit...
Multicultural Educators "Celebrate Diversity" In The Age Of Obama
GREAT, GALLOPING GRAMSCIAN WHORES OF THE CALIPHATE!
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OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:31:10am |
re: #649 MandyManners
What's wrong with work?
Nothing. I've done it, twenty-odd years ago, as have many others I am sure.
But if I lost my automotive engineering job, how likely am I to be hired to run a grader with no experience?
I can tell you from personal experience that it's hard to get a job (of any sort) without the relevant experience.
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VioletTiger Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:31:12am |
re: #629 yochanan
is there a kitchen sink in the PORKULUS bill? seems everything else is. i mean if it was to build roads and things the govt is supposed to do it would not bother me but mostly it is the democrat agenda wrapped like a dead stinky fish maybe that is why the 'best journalists in the new york times' go with stinky fish so well.
DOn't know about sinks, but it sounds like there is stealth Universal Healthcare.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:31:29am |
re: #638 Afrocity
Can't say I am familiar with those places. Bars?
I am more the bookish type
The great used book stores of 57th street. Joseph O'Gara passed on some years ago, I believe that Mr Wilson now runs the shop.
| 662 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:31:47am |
re: #644 MandyManners
The MUTE button is your friend.
No, I had to listen... just to see if it was as bad as I thought it was going to be.
It was.
Now, when the MSM tell me how wonderful it was, I know by personal experience they are lying.
| 663 |
Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:32:08am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:32:09am |
re: #654 Jetpilot1101
You know? I didn't catch that.
We sell products that make homes more energy efficient.
Low end/versus high end? High end stuff will take 30 years to save you as much as you spent on the difference.
(Don't tell anyone).
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MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:32:11am |
re: #658 OldLineTexan
Nothing. I've done it, twenty-odd years ago, as have many others I am sure.
But if I lost my automotive engineering job, how likely am I to be hired to run a grader with no experience?
I can tell you from personal experience that it's hard to get a job (of any sort) without the relevant experience.
Graders/ Shovels are passe?
| 667 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:32:41am |
A local (PA/NJ) executive is working to get CEO's to hold off on layoffs. I wish there were more like him.
[Link: www.philly.com...]
| 668 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:33:03am |
re: #655 NJDhockeyfan
Should I wear green?
Don't stand me up...I'll be looking for you. Noon. Chili's. Bar.
| 669 |
Ojoe Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:33:08am |
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yochanan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:33:22am |
slim 'pick your pocket' pickens will make big $$$ off of this for sure.
| 671 |
Kenneth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:34:01am |
re: #654 Jetpilot1101
I think that savings of $2 billion is over some set period of time, (perhaps per year?) and that the savings would recurr every year. In which case it would be a very good investment. The problem in this instance is trusting the gov't to carefully manage such a project. In the end, the cost will be higher & the saving far less.
| 672 |
SurferDoc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:34:03am |
re: #651 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
The "blame bush" thing is going to get really old. Nothing will ever be his responsibility. It will always be "worse then we were led to believe."
The public's impatience will render "Blame Bush" obsolete by July. They don't want excuses, they want action, and he promised them the Moon. When he doesn't deliver they won't buy Bush as an excuse.
| 673 |
Lincolntf Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:34:04am |
re: #654 Jetpilot1101
I caught that to. Wasn't he talking about "eco-friendly" windows going into public housing buildings? The lying by omission is galling, as is the lack of obvious follow-up questions like "Where will that money come from, if not the taxpayers?" by the media.
| 674 |
Perplexed Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:34:19am |
re: #658 OldLineTexan
I would give you a thousand up dings for that comment.
No experience = no job
Hard for a community organizer to realize that since he's never had to have any experience for any of the jobs he's held.
| 675 |
FrogMarch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:34:51am |
re: #654 Jetpilot1101
My favorite line from last night was (and I'm paraphrasing) "we are going to spend 4 billion dollars to make government buildings more energy efficient and this will save the taxpayers 2 billion dollars". I don't know about you but if my broker called me and told me he had a great investment that would return -50%, I'd drag him out back and shoot him.
The idea that a pack of uber-leftists,who have never had to compete in the private sector-- are in charge, is so disheartening - so sickening - so painful. Obama is turning out to be much worse than I ever could have imagined. I thought maybe he'd be less of a socialist than Hillary - I think I was wrong.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:35:05am |
re: #670 yochanan
slim 'pick your pocket' pickens will make big $$$ off of this for sure.
Hmmmm. Shoooot, a feller can have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with this stuff.
| 678 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:35:28am |
re: #654 Jetpilot1101
My favorite line from last night was (and I'm paraphrasing) "we are going to spend 4 billion dollars to make government buildings more energy efficient and this will save the taxpayers 2 billion dollars". I don't know about you but if my broker called me and told me he had a great investment that would retunr -50%, I'd drag him out back and shoot him.
In fairness the iterated annual saving will exceed the up front cost, if it was done correctly, but this is an invitation to fraud, waste and abuse.
| 679 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:35:41am |
re: #665 MandyManners
Graders/ Shovels are passe?
Graders are complex equipment. Training and experience are needed, and there are plenty of people in that industry short on work. An old white guy with no recent construction experience need not apply.
Shovels are rarer and rarer on these big projects, and I invite you to see who's behind them next job you pass. YMMV from mine in Texas. Again, as a person who has done some hiring, I have turned away the inexperienced AND the over-qualified.
And with that, I am off to chaffeur. Sorry for the drive-by provocation.
| 680 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:35:51am |
re: #668 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't stand me up...I'll be looking for you. Noon. Chili's. Bar.
Wait! Didn't realize the time...Noon Thirty! 12:30!
| 681 |
FrogMarch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:36:16am |
Much of the stimulus money doesn't come on line until closer to 2012... hmmmm what goes on in 2012?
| 682 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:36:20am |
re: #668 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't stand me up...I'll be looking for you. Noon. Chili's. Bar.
I should be there unless the school calls about a sick kid.
| 683 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:36:38am |
re: #661 lifeofthemind
The great used book stores of 57th street. Joseph O'Gara passed on some years ago, I believe that Mr Wilson now runs the shop.
I don't hang out in Hyde Park. I have only been to one rare book store in Chicago and that is in Printer's Row. I do attend the annual antiquarian book fair. I was more active in NYC. I am still in denial that I live in Chicago. I only go to the South Side when I have to.
| 685 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:37:01am |
| 686 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:37:28am |
re: #672 SurferDoc
The public's impatience will render "Blame Bush" obsolete by July. They don't want excuses, they want action, and he promised them the Moon. When he doesn't deliver they won't buy Bush as an excuse.
I do so hope you are right. As of now, I'm not as confident.
| 687 |
Leonidas Hoplite Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:37:30am |
re: #681 FrogMarch
Much of the stimulus money doesn't come on line until closer to 2012... hmmmm what goes on in 2012?
Yeah, quite a coincidence...
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:37:50am |
re: #671 Kenneth
I think that savings of $2 billion is over some set period of time, (perhaps per year?) and that the savings would recurr every year. In which case it would be a very good investment. The problem in this instance is trusting the gov't to carefully manage such a project. In the end, the cost will be higher & the saving far less.
If the program was goingto same 2 billion a year, I would be the first champion of it. He didn't say that though, he said it would save 2 billion dollars. I guess I just expected the "best orator of all time" to be accurate, bold and concise.
| 690 |
Spenser (with an S) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:38:19am |
OK, so I don't like being unemployed at all. First week in my life and it's no fun. My loving wife has been great, but I feel useless and it hasn't been quite a week yet. I think I'm pretty screwed re: unemployment insurance since they have a 5 quarter formula and for 2 of those 5 quarters I was working for myself and didn't feed the kitty so I'm thinking I'll get about $1.50 a day or something. Crap.
| 691 |
realwest Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:38:49am |
Hey good morning y'all - from a moderate (55 degrees going upt to 72 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte - how is everyone doing today?
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:39:37am |
re: #691 realwest
Hey good morning y'all - from a moderate (55 degrees going upt to 72 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte - how is everyone doing today?
Morning, Real! Coming to you from a cloudy, economically-depressed Philadelphia.
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Bloodnok Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:39:50am |
re: #691 realwest
Hey good morning y'all - from a moderate (55 degrees going upt to 72 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte - how is everyone doing today?
72? grumblegrumblegrumble
| 694 |
Lincolntf Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:39:51am |
Anyone watching FNC? Is this flap over the hidden health care plan in the stimulus going to actually force them to drop the section (and the spending)? Anyone read any good articles on it?
| 695 |
albusteve Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:40:19am |
re: #643 FrogMarch
Ed Schultz? really? Incredible -
Obama and the left are, in general, very scared of anyone who might question them or put them on the spot.Related observation I made yesterday --
One of our new US senators (Mark Udall (D)) is comfortable as a guest on AM radio shows like Air America. He Never agrees to go on any of the more conservative local talk shows. Anyway, Udall agreed yesterday a quick interview on the Caplis and Silverman show. (mix of conservative/liberal). The first thing Mark said is "Craig - are you there?". Craig is the "liberal" of the two.
Mark would never agree to go on the show otherwise.
Liberal/progressive/leftists are terrified to be in the same room with someone who isn't part of the group think.
Udall rounded out an entire Dem leadership here in NM....gov, both senators and all three reps....slam dunk
| 696 |
MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:40:21am |
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n in wi Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:40:27am |
re: #694 Lincolntf
Anyone watching FNC? Is this flap over the hidden health care plan in the stimulus going to actually force them to drop the section (and the spending)? Anyone read any good articles on it?
Check out drudge
| 698 |
SurferDoc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:40:50am |
re: #686 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I do so hope you are right. As of now, I'm not as confident.
I'm counting on individual self-interest and selfishness trumping bullshit excuses. The only thing in doubt is the sell-by date. July might be a bit too soon. But the way this clown is cratering I really do think it will go the way I'm saying it will.
| 700 |
Ojoe Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:41:25am |
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lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:41:49am |
re: #683 Afrocity
I don't hang out in Hyde Park. I have only been to one rare book store in Chicago and that is in Printer's Row. I do attend the annual antiquarian book fair. I was more active in NYC. I am still in denial that I live in Chicago. I only go to the South Side when I have to.
Expand your horizons. I used to live in these places. You can go visit my money.
O'Gara and Wilson Booksellers.
Powell's Used Books.
| 702 |
SurferDoc Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:42:10am |
re: #691 realwest
Good morning, RW. I'm freezin' my butt off in the Mojave but OK.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:42:29am |
re: #681 FrogMarch
Much of the stimulus money doesn't come on line until closer to 2012... hmmmm what goes on in 2012?
Don't worry, Porkulus II and Porkulus III later this summer ("The Stimulus package we passed is not working, we must act now or this will be a catastrophe!") will have some spending before then.
Then again maybe not. He thinks we are too stupid to realize that if the "stimulus" hasn't started spending money it _can't_ affect anything, so the door is wide open to get more spending in.
/giving the benefit of a doubt that blowing a pile of cash on new digs for the Department of Commerce or something actually affects the economy.
| 704 |
realwest Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:42:35am |
re: #692 Wyatt Earp
Hey howdy Wyatt! Well I knew Philly was economically depressed, but sorry about the clouds! LOL! How are YOU today?
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Jetpilot1101 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:42:36am |
re: #678 lifeofthemind
In fairness the iterated annual saving will exceed the up front cost, if it was done correctly, but this is an invitation to fraud, waste and abuse.
I'm at a loss for why he didn't say that an investment of 4 billion would save 2 billion per year. Here is my example - we are in the process of erecting wind turbines at my jobsite. There is a pretty steep up front cost but the engineers determined that with theirinstallation, the complex will essentially be electrically self sufficient. It will still take upwards of 5 to 10 years ot recoup the up front cost but come year 11 or so, we're making money. Why couldn't Obama use an example like this to illustrate what is probably a decent program in his otherwise horrible bill?
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yochanan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:43:04am |
re: #683 Afrocity
a couple of great used/antique book stores in Evanston seems with 'egg heads' you need book stores and coffee houses.
| 707 |
Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:43:04am |
re: #704 realwest
Hey howdy Wyatt! Well I knew Philly was economically depressed, but sorry about the clouds! LOL! How are YOU today?
Good as can be on day work! :)
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VioletTiger Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:43:21am |
re: #691 realwest
Morning real
It's pretty gray and dingy here in south NJ, but it's not as bitter cold as last week.
I'm just dawdling, trying to avoid starting this project.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:43:47am |
Morning Real!
Getting up to 68 here today, so there!
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:44:08am |
re: #665 MandyManners
Graders/ Shovels are passe?
Just think how many more jobs could be created if they used teaspoons instead of shovels, and spatulas instead of graders.
| 711 |
MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:44:10am |
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MandyManners Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:44:57am |
re: #710 Alouette
Just think how many more jobs could be created if they used teaspoons instead of shovels, and spatulas instead of graders.
YOU DA JOB CZAR!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:45:30am |
re: #710 Alouette
Just think how many more jobs could be created if they used teaspoons instead of shovels, and spatulas instead of graders.
Remember state employee rules: 1 shovel, 6 men, 1 supervisor.
/you can form a lot of great, fulfilling jobs out of that one shovel, comrade.
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Kenneth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:45:34am |
Some observations about the "press corps" questions:
The toughest question came from AP, but it still allowed Obama to set up his strawman for knocking down. He finally asked Fox News!, which must have been such a surprise the reporter could only manage a softball question. All the other questions weren't even softball, they were T-ball.
There were a couple of odd-ball questions: the HuffPo "reporter: asked about Obama's plans for investigating & prosecuting Bush admin officials. I was glad to hear Obama turn that around and say he was not interested in looking backwards. Even Obama realizes the stupidity of such a path.
The other odd-ball question came from Helen Thomas who asked if the president was aware of any Middle Eastern country that had nuclear weapons. Obama ignored the obvious point of Thomas' question, which was to have Obama identify Israel, and instead Obama focused on the situation in Pakistan & Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons. Thomas even attempted to repeat her question, "But about any other country with nuclear weapons..." but Obama talked right over her. He was gracious to the old hag, but he wasn't about to fall into her trap and cause a diplomatic tempest.
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realwest Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:45:42am |
re: #694 Lincolntf
Good morning - you know it's funny you mentioned that. I've posted this on LGF a couple of times and think it merits another shot (y'all can check out Walter I. Newton's #529 on the prior thread for details):
"Hey y'all - I just received this e-mail from someone who is trustworthy and who has run it through SNOPES.
I hope Charles will forgive my OT with this but THIS IS IMPORTANT:
Hidden away in the bowels of the so-called "stimulus plan" are provisions which lay the foundation for a Universal Healthcare system -- and part of this system will be a new government bureaucracy whose function it will be to review every treatment decision made by every physician, including your doctor and the doctor of your loved ones, and then to determine whether or not you or yours should receive treatment based on a formula that places a dollar value on your life
or the life of your loved ones.
Unfortunately, this is not an exaggeration, or product of a conspiracy nut -- below is a link to an article at Bloomberg, written by Betsy McCaughey, whose resume includes being a former lieutenant governor of New York. We can be grateful to
her for ferreting this out.
So tell me, what is your life worth? Your child's -- your grandchild's -- your Mother's, your Father's, your friend's?
That this should be hidden away in a bill that is supposed to be an economic stimulus bill -- that the groundwork for such a radical revision of our medical sector should be established without any national debate -- it's breathtaking --
these are the radicals we are dealing with -- this is the result of many not doing their homework before voting.
Is this the change you can believe in?
Here are the facts as provided by Betsy McCaughey:
[Link: [Link: [Link: www.bloomberg.com...]...]...]
And here is a site where you can get the names, e-mail addy's etc of your congresscritters:
[Link: walkingwithpeter.wordpress.com...]
I know I'm asking you for a lot - some of your precious time, but do honestly hope you'll e-mail or write to your congresscritters, EVEN IF THEY ARE DEMS."
And I still mean it and it does still concern me!
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FrogMarch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:45:44am |
re: #703 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Porkulus II and III - I don't doubt it.
But don't call it PORK! Obama insists that pork in now - not pork.
| 717 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:46:17am |
re: #690 Spenser (with an S)
OK, so I don't like being unemployed at all. First week in my life and it's no fun. My loving wife has been great, but I feel useless and it hasn't been quite a week yet. I think I'm pretty screwed re: unemployment insurance since they have a 5 quarter formula and for 2 of those 5 quarters I was working for myself and didn't feed the kitty so I'm thinking I'll get about $1.50 a day or something. Crap.
Sucks, don't it? I got laid off 2 weeks before Christmas. This is the first time I have been unemployed since high school.
| 718 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:46:31am |
re: #705 Jetpilot1101
I'm at a loss for why he didn't say that an investment of 4 billion would save 2 billion per year. ... Why couldn't Obama use an example like this to illustrate what is probably a decent program in his otherwise horrible bill?
Short answer. Because he is a semi-educated fool with no practical life experience who knows nothing about economics, engineering or a million other subjects he pontificates on.
| 719 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:46:34am |
re: #692 Wyatt Earp
Morning, Real! Coming to you from a cloudy, economically-depressed Philadelphia.
Morning, Wyatt. You worried about the proposed cuts in officers for the city, or do you think it's just posturing & scare tactics?
| 720 |
FrogMarch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:48:02am |
re: #695 albusteve
They have more guts now - for some reason. Before Udall won, he was asked to go on various AM talk shows - and he would never do it. "He was too busy".
I sometimes glide over to Air Slime-erica (just to hear what the freaks are yaking about - George Bush usually)- and what do you know - Mark Udall.
| 721 |
realwest Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:48:03am |
re: #702 SurferDoc
Well I'm sure glad you're feeling ok - but how cold is it in the Mojave Desert for you to be freezing your butt off?!?
| 722 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:48:22am |
re: #716 FrogMarch
Porkulus II and III - I don't doubt it.
But don't call it PORK! Obama insists that pork in now - not pork.
Looks like a pig, walks like a pig, quacks like a pig... er...
It's a pig.
Speaking of which, kudos to the lizard last night who came up with calling it:
The Trojan Pig.
Nice one.
| 723 |
opnion Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:48:29am |
Imagine that you are on a commercial airliner & Obama is Captain & Biden is the Copilot.
The Capatain comes on & welcomes you to the flight blah,blah,blah.
"We will be cruising at 30,000 feet & I am informed by my copilot that we have a 30% probability of successfuly locating the airport & landing without incedent. Now sit back & enjoy the flight."
| 724 |
Kenneth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:49:32am |
re: #689 Jetpilot1101
Accurate? Wyou with real facts and such like? No need for that pedestrian stuff when the One speaks.
Oh by the way, did you hear? The One said there was no "pork" in the bill. I guess that means it's a halal stimulus bill.
| 725 |
albusteve Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:50:49am |
re: #720 FrogMarch
They have more guts now - for some reason. Before Udall won, he was asked to go on various AM talk shows - and he would never do it. "He was too busy".
I sometimes glide over to Air Slime-erica (just to hear what the freaks are yaking about - George Bush usually)- and what do you know - Mark Udall.
liberals are emboldened when their fantasy is accepted as fact....now they can just flat out deny the truth...even at a presidential presser...rather depressing
| 726 |
Spenser (with an S) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:50:50am |
re: #717 NJDhockeyfan
re: #690 Spenser (with an S)
OK, so I don't like being unemployed at all. First week in my life and it's no fun. My loving wife has been great, but I feel useless and it hasn't been quite a week yet. I think I'm pretty screwed re: unemployment insurance since they have a 5 quarter formula and for 2 of those 5 quarters I was working for myself and didn't feed the kitty so I'm thinking I'll get about $1.50 a day or something. Crap.
Sucks, don't it? I got laid off 2 weeks before Christmas. This is the first time I have been unemployed since high school.
Yep, it do suck. I've got 4 school age kids so my wife hasn't worked in 5 years so I'm it. I'm a very positive person, but with MI's unemployment rate of 10.6%, It's hard to stay positive.
| 727 |
realwest Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:50:57am |
re: #703 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT, how are you today?
| 728 |
Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:51:15am |
re: #719 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Morning, Wyatt. You worried about the proposed cuts in officers for the city, or do you think it's just posturing & scare tactics?
Right now, we have a "no layoff" clause in our contract. Of course, Nutter and Ramsey use our contract to wipe their bums, so I don't know.
The current contract expires in July, so that may change. The scary part is that with the proposed 30 percent budget cut, we would HALF of our officers. HALF!
This is what happens with 60+ years of uninterrupted Democrat rule.
| 729 |
Kenneth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:51:25am |
re: #715 realwest
Good and worthy post. I'm sure that's just one of many devils in the details of this Porkzilla of a bill.
| 730 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:51:26am |
re: #723 opnion
Imagine that you are on a commercial airliner & Obama is Captain & Biden is the Copilot.
The Capatain comes on & welcomes you to the flight blah,blah,blah.
"We will be cruising at 30,000 feet & I am informed by my copilot that we have a 30% probability of successfuly locating the airport & landing without incedent. Now sit back & enjoy the flight."
Obama as Sully:
"Unable Teeterborough (sp?). We'll be in the Hudson. It's Bush's fault."
/in no way implying The One could ever handle a real, technical job requiring vast experience, training, courage, and character.
| 731 |
Lincolntf Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:51:36am |
re: #705 Jetpilot1101
The reason he didn't say it that way, is that he doesn't want to be on record saying something that will be easily proven untrue in the long run. At least thats my guess. The $4 billion will be spent, that's for sure. Will windows go into all the buildings that that money should pay for? Nope. Maybe half the buildings will get the (probably marginal) benefits, and probably double the 4 billion will actually be spent. That's just my view from living in MA, and watching countless public works projects choke cities to death with corruption and incompetence. I imagine Chicago was much the same way when Obama was there. The fact that this particular project is also going to involve "green" folks just ratchets up the likelihood that a lot of that cash is going to be frittered away.
Pardon my cynicism so early in the morning.
| 732 |
tfc3rid Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:51:56am |
Wow... Horrible, simply horrible...
We are so screwed... Obama is unfit for command. He's a partisan Chicago hack politician who has no experience or right to be President of the United States...
Those who voted for him and the Dems in Congress are enabling the dismantling of 232 years of American capitlaism and democracy...
I never agreed with those who talked of a coming revolution... But I can understand their frustration at this point...
Obama is dangerous (LIKE WE ALL SAID)... He is unprepared...
| 733 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:52:48am |
re: #727 realwest
Hey LT, how are you today?
Doing great... you missed my attempt to chide you with the 68 degrees we are promised for today!
/Thanks for the e-mail. Sending it everywhere.
| 734 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:52:58am |
re: #714 Kenneth
I think the questions and people were all planted, the answers rehearsed. He was asking for people by name and looking for them in the room.
| 735 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:53:11am |
re: #684 MandyManners
Fat Bastard?
Did you watch Obama? Did you see him call on HuffPo? If you saw it, I'll bet you lost your freakin' mind!
| 736 |
yochanan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:53:44am |
re: #722 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Looks like a pig, walks like a pig, quacks like a pig... er...
It's a pig.
Speaking of which, kudos to the lizard last night who came up with calling it:
The Trojan Pig.
Nice one.
HOGZILLA gov't pork
[Link: www.faniq.com...]
| 737 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:54:16am |
re: #728 Wyatt Earp
Right now, we have a "no layoff" clause in our contract. Of course, Nutter and Ramsey use our contract to wipe their bums, so I don't know.
The current contract expires in July, so that may change. The scary part is that with the proposed 30 percent budget cut, we would HALF of our officers. HALF!
This is what happens with 60+ years of uninterrupted Democrat rule.
My city taxes are the highest of all taxes I pay & I only make in the neighborhood of $30K a year. What in the hell is this city spending money on that they can't spend on the essential duties to her citizens - police, firemen, etc.?
| 738 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:54:16am |
re: #735 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did you watch Obama? Did you see him call on HuffPo? If you saw it, I'll bet you lost your freakin' mind!
I was expecting him to call on a Koskid next.
| 739 |
opnion Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:54:29am |
re: #730 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Obama as Sully:
"Unable Teeterborough (sp?). We'll be in the Hudson. It's Bush's fault."
/in no way implying The One could ever handle a real, technical job requiring vast experience, training, courage, and character.
I think that Barry would be screaming like a 10 year old girl at a Joanas Brothers concert.
| 740 |
FrogMarch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:54:46am |
re: #725 albusteve
liberals are emboldened when their fantasy is accepted as fact....now they can just flat out deny the truth...even at a presidential presser...rather depressing
Indeed they are...
| 741 |
Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:55:01am |
re: #737 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
My city taxes are the highest of all taxes I pay & I only make in the neighborhood of $30K a year. What in the hell is this city spending money on that they can't spend on the essential duties to her citizens - police, firemen, etc.?
I wish I knew. That toad John Street left us with a $119 million surplus, and Nutter went through it like chili through Michael Moore.
| 743 |
rightside Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:56:00am |
New Penalties
Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face penalties. “Meaningful user” isn’t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time” (511, 518, 540-541)
What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or you need an experimental treatment? The vagueness is intentional. In his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make the “tough” decisions elected politicians won’t make.
The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.
Elderly Hardest Hit
Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.
SNIP
Let's start with you, tom.
| 744 |
Kenneth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:56:58am |
re: #734 VioletTiger
Ari Fleisher, who was Bush's press secretary, said that he used to prepare lists for the president on who to ask including a map of where they wer sitting. I'm sure Obama's staff gives him the same thing. But I don't think Obama needs to bother pre-arranging the questions. The media have been his neutered lap dogs for the past 2 years & they're not about to suddenly grow a pair.
| 745 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:58:18am |
re: #701 lifeofthemind
Expand your horizons. I used to live in these places. You can go visit my money.
O'Gara and Wilson Booksellers.
Powell's Used Books.
No thanks. I grew up in Chicago so I know it pretty well. South side has no love in my heart. I am a Northside girl.
| 746 |
realwest Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:58:30am |
re: #733 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT, thanks a lot for sending that e-mail everywhere - hopefully that incudes your congresscritters and at least a couple of like minded friends!
| 747 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:58:56am |
re: #715 realwest
By this morning I've heard 4 conservative radio commentators mention the stealth healthcare. One of them interviewed Arlin Specter last night and it was shocking to hear that this guy does not even know everthing that's in the bill he fought for. The House bill had e-verify to make sure that money does not go to illegals. The Senate bill does not, and Specter did not seem to know this.
| 748 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:59:07am |
re: #739 opnion
I think that Barry would be screaming like a 10 year old girl at a Joanas Brothers concert.
And the co-pilot struggling to restrain him and get the aircraft under control.
Oh, wait... that would be Biden.
We're screwed.
| 749 |
Perplexed Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:59:34am |
| 750 |
realwest Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:59:37am |
Whoa y'all - Charles is up EARLY today - moving over to the new thread, hope to see y'all over there!
| 751 |
Lincolntf Tue, Feb 10, 2009 6:59:48am |
re: #744 Kenneth
Yeah, that's normal, at least for the beginning of a press conference. But other Presidents seem to work it a little better. You know, finding the person with their eyes before calling their name, sounding like they've actually said the name before, etc. I have to assume he'll get the system down when he's done it a few times.
| 752 |
Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:00:04am |
re: #747 VioletTiger
By this morning I've heard 4 conservative radio commentators mention the stealth healthcare. One of them interviewed Arlin Specter last night and it was shocking to hear that this guy does not even know everthing that's in the bill he fought for. The House bill had e-verify to make sure that money does not go to illegals. The Senate bill does not, and Specter did not seem to know this.
Specter makes Paris Hilton look like a MENSA member.
| 753 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:01:47am |
re: #715 realwest
Thread worthy, recommended to Charles, in the good way.
| 754 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:01:55am |
re: #752 Wyatt Earp
LOL! But you PAers keep electing him!
| 755 |
tfc3rid Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:01:59am |
Senate will vote around 12 Noon today on the Spending Bill...
| 756 |
Wyatt Earp Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:03:26am |
re: #754 VioletTiger
LOL! But you PAers keep electing him!
Not me! But, unfortunately, enough people voted for the tool.
| 757 |
Kenneth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:03:44am |
re: #751 Lincolntf
It didn't even matter what they asked him, as he just took it as an excuse to drone on for 6 or 7 minutes on whatever subject he felt like. Like I said, this was T-ball.
| 758 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:03:47am |
re: #754 VioletTiger
LOL! But you PAers keep electing him!
Don't blame me - proud to say that I have never cast a vote for him. The fact that he let the murderer hippie Ira Einhorn skip off to France should be reason enough to never vote for him.
| 759 |
FrogMarch Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:04:49am |
re: #747 VioletTiger
Scary. These old corrupt fossils don't give a damn. They are so-entrenched in the power structure that actually knowing what they are signing isn't a requirement anymore.
| 761 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:07:16am |
| 762 |
Kenneth Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:07:28am |
Did you notice how Obama kept emphasizing how dire the situation is that the bill, admittedly imperfect, absolutely must pass NOW!?... Otherwise, the economy go from bad to worse, from a disaster to a catastophe!
Never mind that most of the provisions of the bill won't come into effect for 1 or 2 years. We must pass it NOW! No time to stop & think!
| 763 |
garden18 Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:09:05am |
When I view all beings not as special creations, but as the lineal descendants of some few beings which lived long before the first bed of the Cambrian system was deposited, they seem to me to become ennobled.
— Charles Darwin
I do not see how it is ennobling to recognize your ancestor as a small creature living in premordial slime. Perhaps I misunderstood this quotation.
| 764 |
tfc3rid Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:09:43am |
Bill Hemmer asking Sen. John Tester some tough questions... Tester has no clue if there is a healthcare component in the bill...
He has not read the bill...
None of these guys have read the bill... It's a scam.
| 765 |
tfc3rid Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:10:09am |
re: #761 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
No, is Pat Toomey the guy to run against Specter.
| 766 |
Perplexed Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:13:43am |
re: #690 Spenser (with an S)
OK, so I don't like being unemployed at all. First week in my life and it's no fun. My loving wife has been great, but I feel useless and it hasn't been quite a week yet. I think I'm pretty screwed re: unemployment insurance since they have a 5 quarter formula and for 2 of those 5 quarters I was working for myself and didn't feed the kitty so I'm thinking I'll get about $1.50 a day or something. Crap.
You, like many other men, use your job for identification. When asked who are you you probably respond first with your job instead of your name. Nothing wrong with that since it is the way we're wired.
Do you have any hobbies? I ask that from the standpoint that contacts you've made with your hobbies might be able to help you get employed again. You've got to talk to friends, family, acquaintances, etc about job leads. Sitting at home won't do you any good. Wake up in the morning, get ready as though you were going to work.
Unemployed myself for 18 out of 24 months in the mid 90's.
| 767 |
Ayatollah Ghilmeini Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:14:11am |
RECALL THEM ALL!
Congress has a richly deserved reputation, all 11% points of approval rating of it.
Let's look at the bank bailout fiasco. $700 billion spent on banks that never made that much in their entire collective history (yes their growth in equity did exceed this amount) so the only way the USG ever gets paid back is if the banks are once more successful, but for that to happen, things have to turn around. The "Stimulus" Bill is a giant clog in the arteries of this nation. And you do know what happens when arteries clog up, the patient goes into fatal arrest. But there will be no paddles, our government has already issued $10 trillion in debt financing even before we pass this, the last donut before the seizure. Schools for districts that don't need them, and more money for "education" that we ever spent before- here it is helpful to point out that US test scores flatlined and declined from the moment the US Department of Education was created. It is is the problem, no amount of money can fix it. But no tax cuts for small business, no we can never do that.
We elected this Congress and we have a right to unelect them. We must categorically recall the entire Congress. We have every reason to do so. They dance about pretending the Senate and House Banking Committees were innocent old ladies who lost their savings to Simon LeGree when, in fact, Frank, Dodd and the rest were deeply immersed in the whole mess and bear as much culpability as anyone for the mess we now find ourselves in.
Then there is this zombified abortion of bill that is larger than the whole US budget circa 1980, talk about the 80-20% rule, this is a budget busting flaming turd of a bill and everyone and anyone who votes for it should be out of a job tomorrow.
Guess what people, the folks running our government answer to us and we have the right, and this instant case, a duty to recall the entire Congress and replace it with new faces. Its broken. They broke it. We have learned in the last few weeks that the ruling class of this country does not think it has to pay taxes, that they entitled to be chauffeured around the Capital city and that we are ungrateful peasants and serfs for daring to question their integrity and evil rebels for suggesting they be reformed.
This is no reform Congress. Henry Waxman believes he has a right to effectuate the largest wealth transfer in history from America to the rest of the world in the name of a Global Warming phenomenon that at is inversely proportional to my February heating bill. Yes! Let's solve a problem that doesn't need fixing.
Let's take our country back. Let's tart today. Let's demand leaders who are accountable not just electable. Let's send a message to Washington today: all of you resign. Out. Leave office. You are the problem. You failed us. You failed the nation and posterity. Leave or we will bounce you from office and replace you with people who will represent us.
Let's take the 535 most worthless individuals in America and put them on the unemployment line with the millions of other Americans victimized by their that the profligacy. Recall them all. Recall them all NOW!
It starts with getting petition signatures. We the undersigned demand a special recall vote be held on July 4th 2009 and that the question of __________ (fill in the name of your Lord and Master here) remaining in Congress/Senate be put to a vote of the people.
It's our country too and our nation needs an immediate radical rascalectomy.
| 768 |
realwest Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:16:59am |
re: #764 tfc3rid
Hey my friend - first of all I think Lynn Swann is the guy to run against Specter.
Secondly, as to healthcare, please see Walter Newton's #529 on the prior thread or my #715 above!
| 769 |
realwest Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:19:38am |
ARRGGGHH! I killed another thread!
(sniff - nope, brushed my teeth, showered, used deodorant, don't get it!)!
| 770 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:28:37am |
re: #763 garden18
I do not see how it is ennobling to recognize your ancestor as a small creature living in premordial slime. Perhaps I misunderstood this quotation.
Misunderstood is not the right term. Not Understood is more appropriate.
Your problem is that you have no sense of wonder at how the universe actually works, as opposed to how you think it should work; and you have no sense of humility.
| 771 |
Conservative in Liberal Hands Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:34:50am |
re: #769 realwest
RW - Don't fret, killing threads is my job...
It seems as if Urban Windmills are just another Urban Myth
Small wind turbines attached to individual homes work fine unless you have lousy wind.
That's the upshot of a multi-site study called the Warwick Microwind Trial project, a year-long survey on the performance of roof-mounted turbines done in the U.K. done by Encraft, a low-carbon technology consulting firm.
SNIP
But the Encraft study, which came out last month, found that many of the turbines didn't meet manufacturers claims for power generation. Some turbines needed to go offline at times because of technical problems or complaints over noise.
| 772 |
justabill Tue, Feb 10, 2009 7:56:41am |
re: #83 zombie
re: #70 Sharmuta
re: #72 Pvt Bin Jammin
Nah. I was just fishing around for a viable justification for my forgetting what day it was. I have been totally out of the loop for five days (check my comment history -- nada, didn't even have internet access). Where I was felt like jail, at least.
Don't take this wrong, but I was hoping for a report from a protest where the cops actually did something. Billy clubs, mass arrests, whinny moonbats calling their mothers from jail ect. Of course you being on the left coast, the likelihood of that is close to zero...
That being said, I am glad you didn't go to jail...
| 773 |
yochanan Tue, Feb 10, 2009 8:05:25am |
re: #745 Afrocity
No thanks. I grew up in Chicago so I know it pretty well. South side has no love in my heart. I am a Northside girl.
now that all the snow is melted on the northside (the mayor's snow removal plan is called spring) watch were you step lots of little gems around.
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They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... CheechakoJoe Bacon ✅
Trump’s “Stolen Election” Lie Based on Evidence From Pervy Bathroom Cam-Spy OK, this really takes the cake. If you have relatives that still cling to the “election was stolen, dadgum, I jes’ KNOW IT … This should be a slight remedy to the stubborn madness Thanks to online anonymity, the ... Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
Best of April 2024 Nothing new here but these are a look back at the a few good images from the past month. Despite the weather, I was quite pleased with several of them. These were taken with older lenses (made from the ...
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
