Schwarzenegger to Help Obama
Lending support to Barack Obama today in California: Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is eager to get some of that bailout money.
Lending support to Barack Obama today in California: Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is eager to get some of that bailout money.
3 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:17:29am |
The Governator becomes one of the Obamanators.
5 | lurking faith Mar 19, 2009 10:18:16am |
7 | Desert Dog Mar 19, 2009 10:18:28am |
“Ve need za money here in Cal-i-for-nia”
Arnold ran as a fiscally responsible reformer, what happened along the way?
11 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:20:16am |
re: #3 Honorary Yooper
The Governator becomes one of the Obamanators.
He was one even during the last campaign, actively fellating O. He is a Dem in GOP raiment.
12 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:20:17am |
This is why friends should not let friends run for governor of California.
13 | vxbush Mar 19, 2009 10:20:20am |
re: #7 Desert Dog
“Ve need za money here in Cal-i-for-nia”
Arnold ran as a fiscally responsible reformer, what happened along the way?
He’s never had to run a real company, has he? So he doesn’t know that it takes equipment of steel to go up against elected officials to actually cut costs.
14 | Gella Mar 19, 2009 10:20:20am |
re: #8 Sharmuta
Thankfully, he’s Ahnold isn’t eligible for the Presidency.
he said that he wants to change rules, so he can become president one day
i say, dream on
16 | Killgore Trout Mar 19, 2009 10:20:42am |
re: #2 MandyManners
The Problem is that pretty much all of the Republican senators want bailout money (including Palin). They might not advertise it but they are all going to take it and use it. They are happy to have it. The Senators have the luxury of not having to balance a budget or create jobs.
17 | pegcity Mar 19, 2009 10:20:48am |
when you become a member of the Kennedy clan your brain goes out the window
18 | Maxwell Not So Smart Mar 19, 2009 10:20:52am |
P.S. It won’t be back.
Have to stop goofing on the goof time to head back to the office. Have a nice afternoon all.
21 | gmsc Mar 19, 2009 10:21:25am |
OT: Forget the economy. It’s over and f**ked. The problem is systemic, and the rot is already starting to set in.
FDIC Criticizes Massachusetts Bank With No Bad Loans for Being Too Cautious
A Massachusetts bank that has defied the odds and remained free of bad loans amid the economic crisis is now being criticized by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. for the cautious business practices that caused its rare success.
The secret behind East Bridgewater Savings Bank’s accomplishments is the careful approach of 62-year-old chief executive Joseph Petrucelli.
“We’re paranoid about credit quality,” he told the Boston Business Journal.
That paranoia has allowed East Bridgewater Savings Bank to stand out among a flurry a failing banks, with no delinquent loans or foreclosures on its books, the Journal reported. East Bridgewater Savings didn’t even need to set aside in money in 2008 for anticipated loan losses.
But rather than reward Petrucelli’s tactics, the FDIC recently criticized his bank for not lending enough, slapping it with a “needs to improve” rating under the Community Reinvestment Act, the Journal reported.
The problem, according to FDIC data, was that from late 2003 through mid-2008, East Bridgewater Savings made an average of 28 cents in loans for every dollar in deposit — a sharp contrast to the 90 percent average loan-to-deposit ratio among similar banks, the paper reported.
“There are no apparent financial or legal impediments that would limit the bank’s ability to help meet the credit needs of its assessment area,” the FDIC wrote in the CRA evaluation.
The agency also faulted the bank, which does not have a Web site, for not promoting its loan products enough, the Journal reported.
Considering his bank is doing well in tanking industry and even the FDIC’s deposit insurance fund is in trouble after paying for an upswing in bank failures, Petrucelli told the Boston Business Journal that the negative rating caught him by surprise.
East Bridgewater Savings ended 2008 with $135 million in assets, deposits of $84 million, $87,000 in profit, and a Tier 1 risk-based capital ratio of 31.6 percent — more than three times higher than many community banks in Massachusetts, the Journal reported.
Its net loans and leases equaled 21 percent of assets, compared with 72 percent among 385 similar banks across the country.
22 | sattv4u2 Mar 19, 2009 10:21:51am |
Sorry to go OT so early, but
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korean soldiers detained two American journalists near the country’s border with China, South Korean news reports and a South Korean missionary said Thursday.
[Link: my.att.net…]
24 | lawhawk Mar 19, 2009 10:21:59am |
When a recently laid-off school teacher told Obama of her plight, he said the stimulus will help thousands of teachers nationwide keep their jobs.
Keep their jobs? Really? For how long? The porkfest only is a one-shot that our grandkids will be still be paying for when they’re old and gray. The states getting money to bring in new cops and firefighters are going to find that they’re in the hole for funding those new cops and firefighters once the money runs out next year.
It isn’t even a band aid for the fiscal situation in CA. It’s like pouring gasoline on a fire. The whole fiscal situation in CA is a disaster, and the federal porkfest isn’t going to solve that situation; it will likely only delay the inevitable painful decisions that must be made to make the solvent once again - cutting state spending to bring it in line with revenues - not the other way around (raising taxes to match delirious spending habits). You wont see spending cuts under Arnie (or Obama), except for defense spending cuts (which coincidentally will harm places like CA hardest because of their defense industry contractors).
26 | teleskiguy Mar 19, 2009 10:22:13am |
California government is a bad joke. At this rate, in 20 years citizens of California will be sold to middle-class Asians as pets in order to raise cash to keep the bloated government running.
27 | pegcity Mar 19, 2009 10:22:22am |
28 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:22:38am |
re: #15 Colonel Panik
His brand of Republicanism is the most egregious populist pandering crap, Conservatism is not part of the equation.
30 | Oingo Boingo Mar 19, 2009 10:24:52am |
Ahhhhnold.
Don’t for get your Kali-fornia knee pads when you lunch with… The One.
31 | Ojoe Mar 19, 2009 10:25:13am |
All morons. Money running inefficiently around in a loop. Nothing done directly. All shall sit waiting for permission from the clueless people above them. Oh look a chicken!
32 | wrenchwench Mar 19, 2009 10:25:49am |
They include adding an eastbound lane to the Riverside Freeway/SR91 in Orange County. Obama’s mention of the project drew cheers from a crowd of 1,300 that greeted him in Costa Mesa.
That’s like heroin to junkies. He sure knows how to pander.
33 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 10:25:53am |
Oh, Ahnuld… The smell of the free stuff is really sweet isn’t it.
Uh, Ahnuld?… It’s not free.
34 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 10:26:34am |
Arnold ( yeah I could never spell his last name right, so shoot me ) and Bloomberg: Two big time ingrates.
35 | NukeAtomrod Mar 19, 2009 10:26:51am |
I don’t think Arnie was always a RINO. Maybe being governor of California just does that to you. Poor guy. Poor us.
36 | outsidephilly Mar 19, 2009 10:27:03am |
re: #31 Ojoe
hello Ojoe!
How about a picture to turn our ‘eyes’ toward something else?
37 | SasquatchOnSteroids Mar 19, 2009 10:27:04am |
Fiscally Conservative and Socially Liberal.
That’s what he used to crow about himself.
Square Peg, meet Round Hole. The collision is called California.
38 | Big Steve Mar 19, 2009 10:28:49am |
OT and probably old….but….did you realize that Obama signed the stimulus package on the same desk that Clinton got his package stimulated…
39 | soxfan4life Mar 19, 2009 10:28:51am |
Guess Arnold is becoming a Dem through osmosis. Guess it’s easier to say yes to Obama than no to an illegal.
40 | Earick Mar 19, 2009 10:28:59am |
As an asylum inmate of The Socialist Republic of California I’m waiting for the ‘Big One’ to split California in half and sink the Sacramento valley into the inland sea!
41 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:29:03am |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
The Problem is that pretty much all of the Republican senators want bailout money (including Palin). They might not advertise it but they are all going to take it and use it. They are happy to have it. The Senators have the luxury of not having to balance a budget or create jobs.
When did Palin become a Senator? Governors, like Palin, have to balance budgets and create jobs.
44 | redc1c4 Mar 19, 2009 10:29:53am |
Arnie ran into the unions, and, rather than keep fighting them, just quit and went along for the ride……. now we’re in a newer, faster hand basket, still headed to the same destination.
45 | Desert Dog Mar 19, 2009 10:29:53am |
of course, so is my home state of Arizona.
California, Arizona and most other states thought the good times would last forever and wrote up their budgets to reflect that. They over spent and grew their governments to an unmanageable size. Reality is setting in finally.
46 | bloodnok Mar 19, 2009 10:30:10am |
To: Democratic National Committee
From: Republicans
Re: You can have him
Enclosed please find one (1) useless governor of a large western state.
Contents missing: Sense of core party values
Fiscal responsibility
General acting ability
No returns.
47 | Macker Mar 19, 2009 10:30:19am |
re: #39 soxfan4life
Guess Arnold is becoming a Dem through osmosis. Guess it’s easier to say yes to Obama than no to an illegal.
But wouldn’t that make Maria Shriver a Republican by injection?
/snicker
48 | gmsc Mar 19, 2009 10:30:21am |
re: #27 pegcity
can u say socialism?
thats left even for canada
Heck, that’s left even for Massachusetts!
This is a horrifying indication that the problem with our economy is systemic.
If I were the owner of that bank, I would be blanketing the area with radio and TV ads bragging about the FDIC criticism! I’d talk about how the same government and the same people who got us into this financial crisis don’t approve of this bank, so that’s the number one reason to bank there!
50 | soxfan4life Mar 19, 2009 10:31:11am |
re: #47 Macker
But wouldn’t that make Maria Shriver a Republican by injection?
/snicker
She’s probably more conservative than he is.
52 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:31:27am |
re: #7 Desert Dog
“Ve need za money here in Cal-i-for-nia”
Arnold ran as a fiscally responsible reformer, what happened along the way?
Considering the tax and spend ways of past governors and most of his opponents in the campaign then, he truly was in comparison fiscally responsible. He only delayed the collapse of California years instead of it being an immediate one.
53 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:31:34am |
Remember back when Arnold was just a “social liberal,” but a “fiscal conservative?” Liberalism metastasizes like a cancer.
54 | JohnnyReb Mar 19, 2009 10:31:35am |
This whole she bang is just going to delay the inevitable hard landing, and IMO turn the landing into a crash.
Obama and his administration are just tossing money around at this time without a clue. They are creating unfunded future mandates that states simply can’t afford. I honestly don’t see why the states can’t realize that. They almost all just have $$ signs in their eyes.
Here in CT they are talking about taking the money and paying down debt with some of it. But they can’t figure out a way around the rules congress put on the money, so they are going to try and get them to change the rules.
Idiots!
55 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 10:31:49am |
re: #50 soxfan4life
She’s probably more conservative than he is.
She is a KENNEDY. As liberal as they come.
56 | Killgore Trout Mar 19, 2009 10:32:11am |
re: #41 Honorary Yooper
When did Palin become a Senator? Governors, like Palin, have to balance budgets and create jobs.
Sorry, my mistake. I meant to say governors.
57 | NukeAtomrod Mar 19, 2009 10:32:22am |
58 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:32:49am |
re: #35 NukeAtomrod
I don’t think Arnie was always a RINO. Maybe being governor of California just does that to you. Poor guy. Poor us.
No, he always was, but that was well hidden by the far Leftoid pandering of the rest of his opponents and the actions of past governors.
59 | soxfan4life Mar 19, 2009 10:32:53am |
re: #55 Nevergiveup
I know, I was commenting on Arnold’s idea of being a Republican.
62 | vxbush Mar 19, 2009 10:33:04am |
re: #48 gmsc
Heck, that’s left even for Massachusetts!
This is a horrifying indication that the problem with our economy is systemic.
If I were the owner of that bank, I would be blanketing the area with radio and TV ads bragging about the FDIC criticism! I’d talk about how the same government and the same people who got us into this financial crisis don’t approve of this bank, so that’s the number one reason to bank there!
I agree. The idea of being fiscally responsible should be bragged about, used in commercials, put on flyers, and advertised until the FDIC realizes what a doofus it is.
64 | vestalmiss Mar 19, 2009 10:33:25am |
I refuse to pay taxes for California to give college educations to illegals. Oh and free medical care. F^&k them. We are struggling to make an honest living and people who are not even citizens are receiving free educations, health care and who knows what else. That is insane. California can pay for their own problems.
65 | Ford_Prefect Mar 19, 2009 10:33:49am |
OT. Got this in an email. Thought it was pretty funny.
LETTER FROM THE BOSS…
As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that
Obama is our President, and that our taxes, and government fees will
increase in a BIG way.
To compensate for these increases, our prices would have to increase by about
10%.
Since we cannot increase our prices right now due to the dismal state of the
economy, we will have to lay off six of our employees instead.
This has really been bothering me, since I believe we are family here and I
didn’t know how to choose who would have to go.
So, this is what I did.
I walked through our parking lot and found six ‘Obama’ bumper stickers on our
employees’ cars and have decided these folks will be the ones to let go.
I can’t think of a more fair way to approach this problem. They voted for
change; I gave it to them.
I will see the rest of you at the annual company picnic!
66 | Earick Mar 19, 2009 10:34:12am |
re: #47 Macker</em
“But wouldn’t that make Maria Shriver a Republican by injection?”
No! Steroids makes that more difficult! Poor Arny! Big body, small …brain!
67 | outsidephilly Mar 19, 2009 10:34:24am |
68 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 10:34:35am |
re: #59 soxfan4life
I know, I was commenting on Arnold’s idea of being a Republican.
Suckered us in ha?
69 | Macker Mar 19, 2009 10:34:59am |
re: #45 Desert Dog
Since the GOP has the Governorship and both houses of the Legislature, at least we have a chance to turn things around.
70 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:35:04am |
re: #57 NukeAtomrod
No one uses “whom” any more. It’s archaic. Just let it go.
Bunk. It’s the correct use of the terms.
“Who was that?” “From whom did it come?”
71 | jcm Mar 19, 2009 10:35:38am |
72 | vxbush Mar 19, 2009 10:35:52am |
re: #70 Honorary Yooper
Bunk. It’s the correct use of the terms.
“Who was that?” “From whom did it come?”
Nominative case versus accusative. Clear and obvious.
73 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:35:58am |
re: #40 Earick
As an asylum inmate of The Socialist Republic of California I’m waiting for the ‘Big One’ to split California in half and sink the Sacramento valley into the inland sea!
When I was in the state back in the mid to late 90’s there was a push to split three ways, L.A. and San Diego, the Bay Area, and the rest of the state.
74 | soxfan4life Mar 19, 2009 10:36:12am |
re: #69 Macker
Since the GOP has the Governorship and both houses of the Legislature, at least we have a chance to turn things around.
Given the performance by both sides, we will never turn things around until we get 3rd parties in power.
75 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:36:21am |
re: #64 vestalmiss
Agreed. We have enough problems in Illinois right now with our own morons wanting to raise taxes and fees before looking at budget cuts.
76 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:36:30am |
re: #53 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Remember back when Arnold was just a “social liberal,” but a “fiscal conservative?” Liberalism metastasizes like a cancer.
Look at who he is married to.
78 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 10:36:38am |
re: #57 NukeAtomrod
No one uses “whom” any more. It’s archaic. Just let it go.
Who…(used relatively in restrictive and nonrestrictive clauses to represent a specified antecedent, the antecedent being a person or sometimes an animal or personified thing): Any kid who wants to can learn to swim.
Whom…the objective case of who: Whom did you call? Of whom are you speaking? With whom did you stay?
I don’t know what these mean…but, there they are….
79 | bloodnok Mar 19, 2009 10:36:48am |
82 | lookingup Mar 19, 2009 10:37:07am |
re: #64 vestalmiss
I refuse to pay taxes for California to give college educations to illegals. Oh and free medical care. F^&k them. We are struggling to make an honest living and people who are not even citizens are receiving free educations, health care and who knows what else. That is insane. California can pay for their own problems.
You and your children will pay. Arnold is one small part of a corral full of shit.
83 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 10:37:09am |
84 | vxbush Mar 19, 2009 10:37:29am |
re: #78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I don’t know what these mean…but, there they are….
Objective? I thought it was accusative. Oh, dear.
/running to find the book
85 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:37:47am |
re: #79 bloodnok
Upding. I’m going to stand up for “whom” usage.
I am a sucker for people who can use semicolon correctly.
86 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:37:47am |
87 | Macker Mar 19, 2009 10:37:48am |
re: #73 FurryOldGuyJeans
When I was in the state back in the mid to late 90’s there was a push to split three ways, L.A. and San Diego, the Bay Area, and the rest of the state.
Only five more states to go….
88 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:37:52am |
re: #73 FurryOldGuyJeans
When I was in the state back in the mid to late 90’s there was a push to split three ways, L.A. and San Diego, the Bay Area, and the rest of the state.
Heh. We still see the occaissional proposal to split Chicago off from the rest of Illinois. I’m starting to think it would do the rest of the state some good. Let the city sink on its own.
90 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:38:29am |
re: #88 Honorary Yooper
Heh. We still see the occaissional proposal to split Chicago off from the rest of Illinois. I’m starting to think it would do the rest of the state some good. Let the city sink on its own.
Hey now!/
91 | Killgore Trout Mar 19, 2009 10:38:31am |
Where’s Walter today? I have some Lost questions.
92 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 10:38:38am |
93 | NukeAtomrod Mar 19, 2009 10:38:51am |
re: #70 Honorary Yooper
I prefer to embrace language as it’s used, not as the dictionary defines it.
Just my opinion. I’m not trying to start a fight.
94 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 10:38:53am |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
I don’t watch it. Can I help?
96 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:39:01am |
re: #57 NukeAtomrod
No one uses “whom” any more. It’s archaic. Just let it go.
Then I must be no one AND archaic; I use the word all the time.
98 | Macker Mar 19, 2009 10:39:05am |
re: #88 Honorary Yooper
Heh. We still see the occaissional proposal to split Chicago off from the rest of Illinois. I’m starting to think it would do the rest of the state some good. Let the city sink on its own.
Hey, that really would make it the People’s Socialist City-State of Chicago!
Four states to go….
99 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:39:10am |
101 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 10:39:28am |
re: #93 NukeAtomrod
Oh, we know…don’t be silly (lacing on gloves…)
102 | Russkilitlover Mar 19, 2009 10:39:53am |
Governor Arnold has so massively betrayed those in California who supported him. There are no words to describe that man’s horrific swing to the complete left. His over the top fawning about Obama is a disgusting spectacle. And his is greedy money grab from states who reject bailout welfare is embarassing. This all on top of a $50 Billion increase in CA taxes and STILL $8 Billion budget shortfall.
103 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:40:22am |
re: #88 Honorary Yooper
Heh. We still see the occaissional proposal to split Chicago off from the rest of Illinois. I’m starting to think it would do the rest of the state some good. Let the city sink on its own.
Sounds a lot like the brouhaha that brews over Seattle and the rest of King County.
104 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 10:40:24am |
re: #95 buzzsawmonkey
With so many *ssholes around these days, those who can handle the semicolon are a breed apart.
I had four years of Grammar I…shouldn’t “days” be followed by a semicolon?
105 | Big Steve Mar 19, 2009 10:40:30am |
re: #85 Afrocity
I am a sucker for people who can use semicolon correctly.
semicolon…..is that the procedure to check for cancer?
106 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:40:37am |
re: #93 NukeAtomrod
I prefer to embrace language as it’s used, not as the dictionary defines it.
Just my opinion. I’m not trying to start a fight.
Problem is, people do use the who/whom distinction everyday, and use it correctly. That’s why it is in the dictionary.
107 | CyanSnowHawk Mar 19, 2009 10:40:40am |
re: #7 Desert Dog
“Ve need za money here in Cal-i-for-nia”
Arnold ran as a fiscally responsible reformer, what happened along the way?
He got raped by the unions and the large democrat majority in the legislature.
109 | Macker Mar 19, 2009 10:41:13am |
re: #103 FurryOldGuyJeans
Sounds a lot like the brouhaha that brews over Seattle and the rest of King County.
Three states to go…
110 | outsidephilly Mar 19, 2009 10:41:20am |
re: #96 FurryOldGuyJeans
Then I must be no one AND archaic; I use the word all the time.
Well, I don’t think you’re a ‘no one’ … . ,
I’m not too sure the archaic part, though
/
111 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:41:24am |
re: #102 Russkilitlover
Governor Arnold has so massively betrayed those in California who supported him. There are no words to describe that man’s horrific swing to the complete left. His over the top fawning about Obama is a disgusting spectacle. And his is greedy money grab from states who reject bailout welfare is embarassing. This all on top of a $50 Billion increase in CA taxes and STILL $8 Billion budget shortfall.
I wonder when the state taxpayers will get their refunds.
Reagan would roll over in his grave if he saw California now.
112 | Ford_Prefect Mar 19, 2009 10:41:26am |
113 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:41:31am |
114 | Killgore Trout Mar 19, 2009 10:41:34am |
re: #94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Probably not. I want to rewatch some old episodes but I need to know the name of the episodes so I can find them.
115 | Macker Mar 19, 2009 10:41:51am |
re: #107 CyanSnowHawk
He got raped by the unions and the large Demo☭rat majority in the legislature.
There, fixed that for ya!
116 | NukeAtomrod Mar 19, 2009 10:41:54am |
re: #96 FurryOldGuyJeans
Then I must be no one AND archaic; I use the word all the time.
Please don’t take my comment personally.
117 | Colonel Panik Mar 19, 2009 10:41:57am |
re: #35 NukeAtomrod
I don’t think Arnie was always a RINO. Maybe being governor of California just does that to you. Poor guy. Poor us.
Arnold was a RINO from the get-go. He hijacked the California recall after a bunch of grass roots Republican types like Melanie Morgan did the grunt work to get it started, and were backing the true conservative budget hawk Tom McClintock. Way too many California Republicans were wearing their celebrity kneepads, and they were aided by the likes of Hewitt, Medved and O’Reilly.
Which is one of the reasons I now live in Arizona.
Those supporting the Schwarzenkaiser told us McClintock was too much of a social conservative to win in California. But McClintock campaigned on budget issues, not social issues, and he had talked the talk and walked the walk on budget issues in the assembly for years. He would not have knuckled under to the leftists in the Assembly, the way Arnold, with a Kennedy wife whispering in his ears has on everything from budget issues to gun control to “glohbahl varming”.
In retrospect, it would have been better even if McClintock had lost to Bustamante, assuming the RINOs were right and McClintock’s anti-abortion opinion would have sunk him. (I’m not entirely convinced of that BTW.) That way, responsibility for the financial collapse of Kahleefohnyah would be totally in the Dems hands.
RINOS only deliver for the left.
118 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:42:21am |
re: #103 FurryOldGuyJeans
Sounds a lot like the brouhaha that brews over Seattle and the rest of King County.
It is. On a serious note, there is a movement afoot again for the NW Cook County suburbs to split from Cook County.
119 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:42:21am |
re: #105 Big Steve
semicolon…..is that the procedure to check for cancer?
Yes, you need a Powell movement specimen
120 | Ojoe Mar 19, 2009 10:42:27am |
re: #107 CyanSnowHawk
The electorate in Ca. turned down a number of fiscal propositions promoted by “Ahnold” which were designed to end run around the legislature as well. So the people of Ca. are responsible for the mess too.
121 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:42:33am |
122 | alegrias Mar 19, 2009 10:42:40am |
re: #52 FurryOldGuyJeans
Considering the tax and spend ways of past governors and most of his opponents in the campaign then, he truly was in comparison fiscally responsible. He only delayed the collapse of California years instead of it being an immediate one.
* * * *
One governor cannot overturn or do a U-turn against uberliberal California’s democrat majority.
Californians went for Obama’s promises of a free lunch and a free ride. Blame the voters who sent Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Barbara Lee, Ellen Tauscher, Zoe Lofgren, the Sanchez sisters, creepy Brad Sherman who beat up on Mr. Liddly yesterday, Henry Waxman, Obama Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, Maxine Waters, etc.
Not to mention the sanctuary city mayors of California who defy our immigration laws with Obama and now the INS and ICE collusion.
123 | vxbush Mar 19, 2009 10:42:42am |
Okay. In English, the accusative is the objective case as well; they are the same.
*whew*
126 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 10:43:14am |
127 | Macker Mar 19, 2009 10:43:19am |
re: #85 Afrocity
I am a sucker for people who can use semicolon correctly.
I am sorry but I am taken; the Lady E also likes proper semicolon use.
128 | Big Steve Mar 19, 2009 10:43:28am |
129 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:43:58am |
re: #93 NukeAtomrod
I prefer to embrace language as it’s used, not as the dictionary defines it.
Just my opinion. I’m not trying to start a fight.
A dictionary is a reflection of how words are used, albeit with some lag, not some arbiter and mandatory enforcer.
130 | player Mar 19, 2009 10:44:08am |
Arnold is going to help Mr. Zero do what…find more ways to flush money down a rathole while raising taxes to do it?
I don’t think he or our congresscritters need any more assistance in this process.
131 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 10:44:23am |
re: #126 Nevergiveup
Must be trying to make up for a “shortage” in other areas?
With me? It’s a reach under.
(Did I just type that?)
132 | outsidephilly Mar 19, 2009 10:44:25am |
re: #116 NukeAtomrod
Please don’t take my comment personally.
nothing to worry about - we’ll just mess around with it a bit ;.}
(notice the semicolon?)
133 | Macker Mar 19, 2009 10:44:29am |
re: #118 Honorary Yooper
It is. On a serious note, there is a movement afoot again for the NW Cook County suburbs to split from Cook County.
How far along is that?
134 | NukeAtomrod Mar 19, 2009 10:44:51am |
re: #129 FurryOldGuyJeans
A dictionary is a reflection of how words are used, albeit with some lag, not some arbiter and mandatory enforcer.
Exactly, Good Sir!
135 | Walter L. Newton Mar 19, 2009 10:45:32am |
re: #7 Desert Dog
“Ve need za money here in Cal-i-for-nia”
Arnold ran as a fiscally responsible reformer, what happened along the way?
I’ve said it before and I will say it again. NO ONE GETS INTO OFFICE UNLESS THEY WILL BE OF SOME US TO BIG MONEY AND SPECIAL INTEREST.
The public dole is about as big as it can be in Ca. Why would ANYONE think that any governor elected there would actually be able to effect change?
Democrats, Republicans, Independents, it doesn’t matter. They are all working toward the same goals.
We are taking it up the butt on a daily basis and loving it.
136 | bloodnok Mar 19, 2009 10:45:33am |
re: #116 NukeAtomrod
Please don’t take my comment personally.
To who are you referring?
/just kidding. No problem! :)
137 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:45:51am |
re: #133 Macker
How far along is that?
Palatine’s trying it right now as a protest against Cook County Board President Todd Stroger. No idea how successful it could be since it would take the approval of the county they want to split from and any county they want to merge with.
138 | Sharmuta Mar 19, 2009 10:46:10am |
When does California get an opportunity to remove this man from office?
139 | JohnAdams Mar 19, 2009 10:46:12am |
re: #122 alegrias
* * * *
One governor cannot overturn or do a U-turn against uberliberal California’s democrat majority.Californians went for Obama’s promises of a free lunch and a free ride. Blame the voters who sent Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Barbara Lee, Ellen Tauscher, Zoe Lofgren, the Sanchez sisters, creepy Brad Sherman who beat up on Mr. Liddly yesterday, Henry Waxman, Obama Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, Maxine Waters, etc.
Not to mention the sanctuary city mayors of California who defy our immigration laws with Obama and now the INS and ICE collusion.
Now that you mention it, that state has really infused Congress with a shitpile of criminals. It’s such a beautiful state, but such a lunatic asylum, that the convergent urges to stay and leave must be maddening.
140 | Colonel Panik Mar 19, 2009 10:46:27am |
David Horowitz on Praeger right now discussing his book “One Party Classroom” about the takeover of our educational system by the left.
141 | Russkilitlover Mar 19, 2009 10:46:34am |
re: #95 buzzsawmonkey
With so many *ssholes around these days, those who can handle the semicolon are a breed apart.
There are so many *ssholes around these days; people who can handle the semicolon are a breed apart.
142 | Walter L. Newton Mar 19, 2009 10:46:36am |
re: #114 Killgore Trout
Probably not. I want to rewatch some old episodes but I need to know the name of the episodes so I can find them.
I’m right here, in 1977, wait, flash, 1974, wait, flash 2007, wait…
143 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:46:36am |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walt, Killgore was aking about you a few posts up. Wanted to talk “Lost”
144 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:46:54am |
re: #138 Sharmuta
When does California get an opportunity to remove this man from office?
They have recall and impeachment means.
With Blago, I wish we had recall. *sigh*
145 | Tamron Mar 19, 2009 10:47:10am |
HELL EXPLAINED BY A CHEMISTRY STUDENT
The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid-term paper. The answer by one student was so “profound” that the professor shared it with colleagues via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well:
Bonus Question: “Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?” Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle’s Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.
One student, however, wrote the following:
“First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time, so we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let’s look at the different religions that exist in the world today.
Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions, and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially.
Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle’s Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1) If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
2) If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that “It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,” and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over.
The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct……leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being, which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting “Oh my God!”
(THIS STUDENT RECEIVED AN A+)
146 | Gella Mar 19, 2009 10:47:13am |
re: #137 Honorary Yooper
Palatine’s trying it right now as a protest against Cook County Board President Todd Stroger. No idea how successful it could be since it would take the approval of the county they want to split from and any county they want to merge with.
it won’t work, Palatine doesn’t have enough resources by itself to be a separate county, and yes i seen that meeting on tv between Palatine and Stroger
147 | Walter L. Newton Mar 19, 2009 10:47:15am |
re: #138 Sharmuta
When does California get an opportunity to remove this man from office?
When big money and special interest allows it.
148 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:47:25am |
re: #123 vxbush
Okay. In English, the accusative is the objective case as well; they are the same.
*whew*
FIE! J’accuse! ;)
149 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:47:26am |
re: #138 Sharmuta
When does California get an opportunity to remove this man from office?
Can’t they do recalls?
150 | Ford_Prefect Mar 19, 2009 10:47:27am |
re: #138 Sharmuta
When does California get an opportunity to remove this man from office?
And replace him with what? If he is a California version of a conservative, what will a California liberal do?
151 | slterry40 Mar 19, 2009 10:47:33am |
So I feel like Obama learned everything he knows about politics from the Joker, in the Michael Keaton version of Batman. As soon as he starts dropping all that free money to the commoners from that blimp, he knew that they would be on his side, and turn on his enemy. He’s right though, people really are as stupid as all those people in Gotham grasping for the free money.
152 | x-wing Mar 19, 2009 10:47:58am |
re: #138 Sharmuta
When does California get an opportunity to remove this man from office?
We recalled Grey Davis for this?
/would make a nice bumper-sticker
153 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:47:59am |
re: #144 Honorary Yooper
They have recall and impeachment means.
With Blago, I wish we had recall. *sigh*
You could ask Hilary for her “RESET” button, since I don’t think the Russians are going to use it.
155 | outsidephilly Mar 19, 2009 10:48:17am |
re: #143 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Hey Walt, Killgore was aking about you a few posts up. Wanted to talk “Lost”
Killgore’s ‘Lost’?
oh my, we’ve GOT to find Killgore!
156 | Russkilitlover Mar 19, 2009 10:48:26am |
re: #93 NukeAtomrod
I prefer to embrace language as it’s used, not as the dictionary defines it.
Just my opinion. I’m not trying to start a fight.
I’ll bet you’re one of those folks who uses ‘appropos’ as a synonym for ‘appropriate.’ Grrrrrrr……. ;}
157 | Gella Mar 19, 2009 10:48:29am |
re: #152 x-wing
We recalled Grey Davis for this?
/would make a nice bumper-sticker
did u hear that Ariana Puffington wants to replace Arnie?
158 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 10:48:42am |
re: #153 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Oh, they’re resetting.
159 | bloodnok Mar 19, 2009 10:48:44am |
re: #152 x-wing
We recalled Grey Davis for this?
/would make a nice bumper-sticker
“Don’t blame me. I voted for the porn star.”
160 | NukeAtomrod Mar 19, 2009 10:49:07am |
re: #136 bloodnok
To who are you referring?
/just kidding. No problem! :)
To who are you referring? Who are you talking about?
Take that, foul user of Latin sentence structure!
/That’s how I roll.
161 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:49:16am |
re: #144 Honorary Yooper
They have recall and impeachment means.
With Blago, I wish we had recall. *sigh*
Honorary, Quinn is no damn better. He is no proposing to raise IL taxes 50%.
That is why I want Burris to stay in, Madigan and her ilk are nothing but crooks. I can’t wait until the election for Rahm’s seat.
162 | Lee Coller Mar 19, 2009 10:49:22am |
re: #138 Sharmuta
When does California get an opportunity to remove this man from office?
He’s termed out in 2010
163 | alegrias Mar 19, 2009 10:49:26am |
re: #138 Sharmuta
When does California get an opportunity to remove this man from office?
* * *
PELOSI’s the one who’s people wrote the Stimulus Bill for Obama. Pelosi is the 3rd in line behind Obama. I’d argue she’s the more dangerous Californian.
165 | acwgusa Mar 19, 2009 10:49:54am |
Why is everyone surprised by this? California needs the money due to our own stupidity. Arnold had no chance against Democrats here in California. They own this state, and the fact that we are stone broke reflects that poor ownership.
166 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:50:06am |
re: #139 JohnAdams
Now that you mention it, that state has really infused Congress with a shitpile of criminals. It’s such a beautiful state, but such a lunatic asylum, that the convergent urges to stay and leave must be maddening.
True, but I wouldn’t say California has the crooks, just the loons. We can out do them for crooks any day of the week in Illinois. May I remind everyone of the record for governors arrested, indicted, and jailed? That’s 5 arrested, 4 indicted, and 3 convicted. Then there’s the aldermen and other politicians like Rep. Dan Rostenkowski or Rep. Mell Reynolds.
168 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:50:23am |
re: #162 Lee Coller
He’s termed out in 2010
That is a long time to have a foreign object in your butt.
172 | doppelganglander Mar 19, 2009 10:51:12am |
I can solve California’s budget problems in 5 minutes. Constitutionally limit the state legislature to meeting for 40 business days at the beginning of the year and reduce their pay to per diem expenses only. If they can’t meet, they can’t spend money.
173 | JohnAdams Mar 19, 2009 10:51:13am |
re: #150 Ford_Prefect
And replace him with what? If he is a California version of a conservative, what will a California liberal do?
174 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:51:16am |
re: #150 Ford_Prefect
And replace him with what? If he is a California version of a conservative, what will a California liberal do?
Exhibit A: Nancy Pelosi.
175 | x-wing Mar 19, 2009 10:51:22am |
re: #157 Gella
did u hear that Ariana Puffington wants to replace Arnie?
Good Lord. No I didn’t. Yeah, that would be better…..NOT
177 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:51:30am |
178 | bloodnok Mar 19, 2009 10:51:39am |
re: #167 buzzsawmonkey
Not in that sentence; in this one, however, it is necessary. I can’t recall the rules for dependent clauses offhand, but I’m sure someone here will fill in the gap.
I do know that without dependants the government gets its claws into more of your paycheck.
179 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:51:41am |
re: #110 outsidephilly
Well, I don’t think you’re a ‘no one’ … . ,
I’m not too sure the archaic part, though
/
My nic describes well my feelings about my age, so archaic may very much be applicable. ;)
180 | Ford_Prefect Mar 19, 2009 10:51:52am |
181 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 10:51:54am |
re: #170 ploome hineni
who does California get to vote into office?
who is available and running for the office?
Is Manny a CA resident yet?
182 | Sharmuta Mar 19, 2009 10:51:57am |
re: #170 ploome hineni
who does California get to vote into office?
who is available and running for the office?
It’s California. I’m sure there’s at lease a few good teleprompters available.
183 | Killgore Trout Mar 19, 2009 10:52:08am |
re: #142 Walter L. Newton
How do I find out which episode was the one where they stopped pushing the button and the blast door with the infrared map showed up?
184 | Ford_Prefect Mar 19, 2009 10:52:13am |
185 | x-wing Mar 19, 2009 10:52:16am |
186 | Lee Coller Mar 19, 2009 10:52:17am |
re: #168 Afrocity
That is a long time to have a foreign object in your butt.
The big problem is that the Republican party in CA is in such shambles they can’t do anything. That’s why the airhead Barbara Boxer gets reelected every six years.
187 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:52:24am |
189 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 10:52:57am |
190 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:52:57am |
re: #149 Afrocity
Can’t they do recalls?
That is how the man became governor in the first place, a recall election for Gray Davis.
191 | itellu3times Mar 19, 2009 10:53:00am |
re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I had four years of Grammar I…shouldn’t “days” be followed by a semicolon?
re: #167 buzzsawmonkey
Not in that sentence; in this one, however, it is necessary. I can’t recall the rules for dependent clauses offhand, but I’m sure someone here will fill in the gap.
Semicolons separate sentences not clauses.
192 | Ford_Prefect Mar 19, 2009 10:53:03am |
re: #176 ploome hineni
exactly
/do you think we here are the dinasours?
Ooo. Can I be a Pterodactyl?
193 | Big Steve Mar 19, 2009 10:53:12am |
re: #139 JohnAdams
Now that you mention it, that state has really infused Congress with a shitpile of criminals. It’s such a beautiful state, but such a lunatic asylum, that the convergent urges to stay and leave must be maddening.
speaking of shitpile criminals….did you catch this…..Charlie Manson at 72
194 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:53:13am |
re: #167 buzzsawmonkey
Not in that sentence; in this one, however, it is necessary. I can’t recall the rules for dependent clauses offhand, but I’m sure someone here will fill in the gap.
A Macy’s Santa in the off-season.
195 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 10:53:48am |
re: #161 Afrocity
Honorary, Quinn is no damn better. He is no proposing to raise IL taxes 50%.
That is why I want Burris to stay in, Madigan and her ilk are nothing but crooks. I can’t wait until the election for Rahm’s seat.
I know, I know. It’s a freaking mess. Burris is a thorn in the Dem’s side because of who put him there. This will not end well for them in 2010. I see a Republican governor and senator in the near future. The Downstaters and Suburbanites are majorly pissed off. As for Rahm’s seat, Quigley seems to be a shoe-in for it.
196 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 10:53:50am |
re: #187 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That’s when SkyNet goes online, right?
Another reason why i should stop paying my mortgage.
197 | Cathypop Mar 19, 2009 10:53:54am |
re: #188 MandyManners
Quote from Wiki:
Wendy Leigh, who wrote an unofficial biography on Schwarzenegger, claims he plotted his political rise from an early age using the movie business and bodybuilding as building blocks to escape a depressing home.[8] Leigh portrays Schwarzenegger as obsessed with power and quotes him as saying, “I wanted to be part of the small percentage of people who were leaders, not the large mass of followers. I think it is because I saw leaders use 100% of their potential – I was always fascinated by people in control of other people.”[8]
Why do I have this strange urge to goose-step?
Since when has Arnol used 100% of his potential? Did he ever have it?
198 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:53:55am |
199 | alegrias Mar 19, 2009 10:54:00am |
re: #150 Ford_Prefect
And replace him with what? If he is a California version of a conservative, what will a California liberal do?
* * **
Pelosi’s your California liberal who wrote the Bailout stimulus porker. And she’s third in line after Obama. Haven’t California’s liberal pols done enough to us?
200 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:54:00am |
201 | Walter L. Newton Mar 19, 2009 10:54:03am |
Killgore… you wanted to ask a question… where are you? I’m going to be taking a nap soon. Are you there?
202 | JohnAdams Mar 19, 2009 10:54:03am |
203 | NukeAtomrod Mar 19, 2009 10:54:07am |
re: #156 Russkilitlover
I’ll bet you’re one of those folks who uses ‘appropos’ as a synonym for ‘appropriate.’ Grrrrrrr……. ;}
Please don’t insult me. That was completely uncalled for.
/Faux Outrage (see: AIG Bonuses Scandal 2009)
204 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:54:09am |
re: #168 Afrocity
That is a long time to have a foreign object in your butt.
This is California we are speaking of. A lot of residents love objects in the butt.
206 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 10:54:15am |
re: #191 itellu3times
Semicolons separate sentences not clauses.
LOLLY LOLLY LOLLY
Get your adverbs here….
208 | AmericanMe Mar 19, 2009 10:54:43am |
I hate to admit, I voted for Arnold. Big mistake. He lied and we bought it, hook line and sinker. I feel stupid. He is no better than Gray Davis. He’s a coward who did not have the courage to stand up to the Democrats who have financially ruined California. Republicans/Conservatives in CA are completely lost and I am beyond pissed off! I’ve never before thought of leaving California, until now.
210 | Walter L. Newton Mar 19, 2009 10:55:01am |
re: #183 Killgore Trout
How do I find out which episode was the one where they stopped pushing the button and the blast door with the infrared map showed up?
211 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:55:04am |
re: #204 FurryOldGuyJeans
This is California we are speaking of. A lot of residents love objects in the butt.
Ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
212 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 10:55:09am |
re: #186 Lee Coller
The big problem is that the Republican party in CA is in such shambles they can’t do anything. That’s why the airhead Barbara Boxer gets reelected every six years.
The Republican party in CA is a good reflection of the GOP nationally.
213 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:55:14am |
re: #184 Ford_Prefect
He looks like Gollum.
The taxes, my preciousss! We loves them, loves them, gollum!
214 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:55:45am |
re: #199 alegrias
* * **
Pelosi’s your California liberal who wrote the Bailout stimulus porker. And she’s third in line after Obama. Haven’t California’s liberal pols done enough to us?
I thought that Ebay woman was running.
215 | acwgusa Mar 19, 2009 10:55:47am |
re: #208 AmericanMe
I hate to admit, I voted for Arnold. Big mistake. He lied and we bought it, hook line and sinker. I feel stupid. He is no better than Gray Davis. He’s a coward who did not have the courage to stand up to the Democrats who have financially ruined California. Republicans/Conservatives in CA are completely lost and I am beyond pissed off! I’ve never before thought of leaving California, until now.
With San Fran and Los Angeles, Republicans stand no chance in this state. NONE.
217 | Walter L. Newton Mar 19, 2009 10:55:58am |
re: #205 lawhawk
[Link: lostpedia.wikia.com…]
Actual episode with the blast door “Live together, Die Alone”
220 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:56:21am |
re: #212 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Republican party in CA is a good reflection of the GOP nationally.
Oh, like Chicago for DEMS.
222 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:56:39am |
re: #207 buzzsawmonkey
Girls today in society
Go for grammatic facility
You can make time if you quote aright
Rules you’ve taken from Strunk & White—from the unpublished “Kiss Me, Kate” libretto
I love a good Strunk & White joke - outside of an episode of “King of The Hill,” this is the second one I’ve heard.
223 | Walter L. Newton Mar 19, 2009 10:56:42am |
re: #218 ploome hineni
Arnold is a very alpha male
some men are like that…they have to be leader of the pack
remember, he had non of the usual advantage.family, education, money…..all he had was desire and will
he worked harder and better than anyone else, and he learned how to overwhelm and intimidate his opponents
many sucessful men are like that
Thank you Dr. Ruth.
224 | Russkilitlover Mar 19, 2009 10:56:47am |
re: #170 ploome hineni
who does California get to vote into office?
who is available and running for the office?
Meg Whitman, the woman who started/ran EBay is seriously considering.
But then, so is Jerry ‘Moonbeam’ Brown; LA Mayor Tony Villar, and Dianne Feinstein’s name keeps popping up.
225 | Ford_Prefect Mar 19, 2009 10:56:51am |
226 | Pvt Bin Jammin Mar 19, 2009 10:57:05am |
re: #208 AmericanMe
I hate to admit, I voted for Arnold. Big mistake. He lied and we bought it, hook line and sinker. I feel stupid. He is no better than Gray Davis. He’s a coward who did not have the courage to stand up to the Democrats who have financially ruined California. Republicans/Conservatives in CA are completely lost and I am beyond pissed off! I’ve never before thought of leaving California, until now.
I know how you feel. Just imagine who we might get for our next governor:
lacity.org
227 | Kosh's Shadow Mar 19, 2009 10:57:22am |
re: #193 Big Steve
speaking of shitpile criminals….did you catch this…..Charlie Manson at 72
Can we send him a birthday cake with explosives instead of candles?
/
231 | Walter L. Newton Mar 19, 2009 10:58:23am |
re: #228 Killgore Trout
Thanks, looking for it…….
Here’s the episode, I’ve posted this three times now.
232 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 10:58:29am |
re: #227 Kosh’s Shadow
Can we send him a birthday cake with explosives instead of candles?
/
Did Sue Atkins ever die of cancer?
235 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 10:58:34am |
re: #219 JammieWearingFool
Technology is wonderful. I can sit in a conference room while scrolling through LGF and watching NCAA hoops on my laptop.
Go Northridge State!
(up 44-43 over Memphis)
Wish they would split the screen
236 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:58:44am |
re: #229 MandyManners
I wonder if the steroids shrank his testicles.
Y’know, that’s a good question. He doesn’t have any kids, does he?
237 | Cathypop Mar 19, 2009 10:58:44am |
re: #212 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Republican party in CA is a good reflection of the GOP nationally.
When I left Orange County 15 years ago it was very conservative. What the fuck happened?
238 | x-wing Mar 19, 2009 10:58:58am |
re: #209 Afrocity
Is that Ping on Rush? Sorry but I can’t tell.
He’s from Wa. Wenatchee. Didn’t hear it yet.
240 | Last Mohican Mar 19, 2009 10:59:24am |
Will this is a little strange. Popular Obama fansite CNN.com has another one of their biased polls up today. But today’s poll is biased against Democrats:
Who bears more responsibility for fixing the AIG bailout bonus mess?(A) Congress
(B) The Obama administration
Obviously, “Congress” is ahead with 66% of the votes, because this is after all an Obama fansite. And most of its readers probably don’t even know that the Dems control congress, and have for some time.
242 | Walter L. Newton Mar 19, 2009 10:59:45am |
re: #237 Cathypop
When I left Orange County 15 years ago it was very conservative. What the fuck happened?
Zip code changed.
243 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 10:59:49am |
244 | doppelganglander Mar 19, 2009 10:59:52am |
re: #85 Afrocity
I am a sucker for people who can use semicolon correctly.
My older daughter is dating a guy who is quite cute and charming, but the real appeal for her is that he can talk about political philosophy. And English is his second language.
245 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 10:59:56am |
re: #236 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Y’know, that’s a good question. He doesn’t have any kids, does he?
3 or 4
247 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 11:00:18am |
re: #220 Afrocity
Oh, like Chicago for DEMS.
In a nutshell, yes.
Just think, one of the greatest Republican/Conservative Presidents of all time, Ronald Reagan, was governor of California. What a downfall the state has taken.
248 | alegrias Mar 19, 2009 11:00:24am |
re: #212 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Republican party in CA is a good reflection of the GOP nationally.
* * * *
Not true. Few states are as leftist as California.
250 | JohnAdams Mar 19, 2009 11:00:38am |
re: #215 acwgusa
With San Fran and Los Angeles, Republicans stand no chance in this state. NONE.
Should be allowed to go bankrupt. Democrat voters need to see what happens when the piggies blow through the money and the state can’t run for 4 months. No chance that’s going to happen either. Politicians don’t have to play by the same rules as humans.
251 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 11:00:57am |
re: #229 MandyManners
I wonder if the steroids shrank his testicles.
Maria has ‘em in a jar by the door.
253 | Ford_Prefect Mar 19, 2009 11:01:19am |
re: #248 alegrias
* * * *
Not true. Few states are as leftist as California.
Well, there’s Massachusetts.
254 | Russkilitlover Mar 19, 2009 11:01:40am |
re: #218 ploome hineni
Arnold is a very alpha male
some men are like that…they have to be leader of the pack
remember, he had non of the usual advantage.family, education, money…..all he had was desire and will
he worked harder and better than anyone else, and he learned how to overwhelm and intimidate his opponents
many sucessful men are like that
But he crumpled into a flabby heap in his first, and last, confrontation with the unions.
256 | Lee Coller Mar 19, 2009 11:01:50am |
re: #212 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Republican party in CA is a good reflection of the GOP nationally.
Actually the Republican party in CA makes the national GOP look like a well oiled machine.
260 | Cathypop Mar 19, 2009 11:02:30am |
re: #246 MandyManners
I bet Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave.
It was a great state when Reagan was governor
263 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 11:03:00am |
re: #248 alegrias
* * * *
Not true. Few states are as leftist as California.
The GOP nationwide is in considerable disarray, which is what I was addressing.
264 | alegrias Mar 19, 2009 11:03:09am |
re: #246 MandyManners
I bet Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave.
* * * *
But Ronnie Reagan junior probably voted FOR Obama, and loves what’s happened to California.
265 | NukeAtomrod Mar 19, 2009 11:03:27am |
re: #259 MandyManners
I’ll never make another joke about testicles.
You’d have to be nuts to repeat that mistake.
267 | Russkilitlover Mar 19, 2009 11:03:37am |
re: #237 Cathypop
When I left Orange County 15 years ago it was very conservative. What the fuck happened?
Soccer moms.
269 | Pie-onist Overlord Mar 19, 2009 11:03:43am |
re: #146 Gella
it won’t work, Palatine doesn’t have enough resources by itself to be a separate county, and yes i seen that meeting on tv between Palatine and Stroger
When I first read this sentence, it was like Palestine doesn’t have enough resources by itself to be a separate country and then I asked myself who or what the hell is “Stroger”?
271 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 11:03:44am |
re: #246 MandyManners
I bet Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave.
Another alternate power source? Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, William Buckley, Jr….etc…
272 | Lee Coller Mar 19, 2009 11:03:48am |
re: #264 alegrias
* * * *
But Ronnie Reagan junior probably voted FOR Obama, and loves what’s happened to California.
In that case the apple did fall far from the tree. Michael Reagan on the other hand …
273 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 11:04:18am |
re: #248 alegrias
Not true. Few states are as leftist as California.
How true. Even Illinois is nowhere as far left as California, let alone Oregon or Massachusetts. Chicago is a problem, leftist-wise, but the rest of the state is radically different, hence the Chicago-Downstate-Suburb battles that rage through the General Assembly.
274 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 11:04:27am |
re: #247 FurryOldGuyJeans
In a nutshell, yes.
Just think, one of the greatest Republican/Conservative Presidents of all time, Ronald Reagan, was governor of California. What a downfall the state has taken.
And he was born in Illinois. Lincoln and Reagan, two great Republicans.
275 | sattv4u2 Mar 19, 2009 11:04:44am |
re: #272 Lee Coller
In that case the apple did fall far from the tree. Michael Reagan on the other hand …
came from a different tree, actually!
276 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 11:05:00am |
re: #264 alegrias
* * * *
But Ronnie Reagan junior probably voted FOR Obama, and loves what’s happened to California.
The seed got weak
277 | alegrias Mar 19, 2009 11:05:10am |
re: #257 MandyManners
Massachusetts. Oregon. Others?
* * * *
Your nation’s Capital, which wants to be a state, is 90% leftist, and a complete basket case, worst schools in the nation, most AIDS cases, leftist programmed electorate ill served by their crappy educations.
278 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 11:05:27am |
re: #258 buzzsawmonkey
MMTA! (‘cept I’m about a minute slower)
279 | JohnAdams Mar 19, 2009 11:05:39am |
re: #268 ploome hineni
and what do you make of McCains daughter?
She wants to be friends with all the, like, cool people. She’s a Democrat who happens to be the daughter of McCain.
280 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 11:05:46am |
281 | x-wing Mar 19, 2009 11:05:53am |
re: #272 Lee Coller
In that case the apple did fall far from the tree. Michael Reagan on the other hand …
Michael was adopted though. Ronnies two natural kids are friggen’ wackos’
282 | NukeAtomrod Mar 19, 2009 11:05:59am |
re: #277 alegrias
* * * *
Your nation’s Capital, which wants to be a state, is 90% leftist, and a complete basket case, worst schools in the nation, most AIDS cases, leftist programmed electorate ill served by their crappy educations.
That’s because it’s filled with politicians.
284 | Colonel Panik Mar 19, 2009 11:06:36am |
re: #237 Cathypop
When I left Orange County 15 years ago it was very conservative. What the fuck happened?
Much of Orange County, the Inland Empire, San Diego County (lots of .mil and retired .mil) the Central Valley and the Sierras are still very Republican. But LA and SF have been a moonbat magnet since the 60’s, and the influx of out of state leftists as well as the corosive effects of 40 years of increasingly left-leaning education, have outnumbered conservatives in California. Combine that wiht a burgeoning immigrant population, that with the exception of the Vietnamese, tends to vote Dem, and you have a recipe for disaster.
286 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 11:06:57am |
re: #274 Afrocity
And he was born in Illinois. Lincoln and Reagan, two great Republicans.
I would bet good money both would have shunned Chicago politics without any reservations.
287 | sattv4u2 Mar 19, 2009 11:07:01am |
re: #282 NukeAtomrod
That’s because it’s filled with
politicianspolitical hacks who owe their jobs to the gov’t, so they want bigger gov’t =’s more job security.
FTFY
288 | Lee Coller Mar 19, 2009 11:07:03am |
re: #281 x-wing
Michael was adopted though. Ronnies two natural kids are friggen’ wackos’
I know that, but they were all raised by their father.
289 | soxfan4life Mar 19, 2009 11:07:04am |
re: #279 JohnAdams
She wants to be friends with all the, like, cool people. She’s a Democrat who happens to be the daughter of McCain.
Sounds just like her father actually.
291 | alegrias Mar 19, 2009 11:07:34am |
re: #263 FurryOldGuyJeans
The GOP nationwide is in considerable disarray, which is what I was addressing.
* * **
Yes, that’s what happens when you LOSE elections.
The GOP lost, and needs to regroup.
Our nation’s electorate needs to wise up, and step away from the “free” drugs democrats are pushing.
292 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 11:07:55am |
293 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 11:08:04am |
re: #281 x-wing
Michael was adopted though. Ronnies two natural kids are friggen’ wackos’
I have a friend who is a man’s man. He has a brother who is much weaker (in every sense of the word) guy.
A mutual friend told me once that their father had a “better toe hold on the mattress” with the manly one.
294 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 11:08:16am |
re: #279 JohnAdams
She wants to be friends with all the, like, cool people. She’s a Democrat who happens to be the daughter of McCain.
She’ll be a Democrat till she starts to inherit.
295 | Killgore Trout Mar 19, 2009 11:08:28am |
Remember The Australian “Cat Meat” Imam?
Hilaly the Deceiver
Youtube Video
He was busted on video vandalizing his own mosque!
296 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 11:08:45am |
re: #286 FurryOldGuyJeans
I would bet good money both would have shunned Chicago politics without any reservations.
And you’d win that bet. Both would’ve probably made attempts to clean up the mess as best they could.
297 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 11:08:54am |
re: #279 JohnAdams
She wants to be friends with all the, like, cool people. She’s a Democrat who happens to be the daughter of McCain.
And that’s different from the Senator, her father, how?
298 | Russkilitlover Mar 19, 2009 11:08:57am |
re: #261 ploome hineni
do we know the backstory?
I do not follow his career now
but I do know how he got to famous
When he was first elected, he said all the right things, and even did a couple of right things. He had an ambitious plan for reforms and took it to the voters via ballot initiatives. He was demonized and villified by the nurses’ union, teachers’ union, firefighters’ union, et. al. After that, he packed up his conservative principles and put them away, never to be seen again.
300 | JohnAdams Mar 19, 2009 11:09:51am |
re: #284 Colonel Panik
Much of Orange County, the Inland Empire, San Diego County (lots of .mil and retired .mil) the Central Valley and the Sierras are still very Republican. But LA and SF have been a moonbat magnet since the 60’s, and the influx of out of state leftists as well as the corosive effects of 40 years of increasingly left-leaning education, have outnumbered conservatives in California. Combine that wiht a burgeoning immigrant population, that with the exception of the Vietnamese, tends to vote Dem, and you have a recipe for disaster.
I’ve always said that every rootless clown at loose ends with a dream will at some point “head out to California.” The place is a victim of its own success.
301 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 11:09:59am |
re: #298 Russkilitlover
Reagan had better developed “conservative” muscles.
302 | Honorary Yooper Mar 19, 2009 11:10:01am |
re: #292 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Vermont.
Vermont is an interesting case. The moonbats there are non-native, and have become a virulent invasive species, akin to kudzu.
303 | SasquatchOnSteroids Mar 19, 2009 11:10:08am |
304 | Colonel Panik Mar 19, 2009 11:10:40am |
re: #300 JohnAdams
I’ve always said that every rootless clown at loose ends with a dream will at some point “head out to California.” The place is a victim of its own success.
Exactly.
305 | nyc redneck Mar 19, 2009 11:10:52am |
arnold was a conservative before he gave it up to be liked by the people he felt
were above him. hollywoofer rich elitists. leftist libs.
arnold couldn’t keep his focus out of the weight room.
he did not heed his own advice. “stay hungry”.
306 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 11:10:54am |
re: #294 Nevergiveup
She’ll be a Democrat till she starts to inherit.
I agree with Laura Ingram that Megan needs to STFU. She is the typical Columbia grad. McCain should know that the last place to send her would be NYC. She seems insecure to me. I will not discount her because she will mature someday. The left feeds off youth and it is very seductive.
307 | JohnnyReb Mar 19, 2009 11:11:28am |
re: #302 Honorary Yooper
Vermont is an interesting case. The moonbats there are non-native, and have become a virulent invasive species, akin to kudzu.
New Hampshire is also turning that way. Way too many people fleeing Mass taxes and moving to the fringe towns of VT and NH. The will slowly be taken over, from the bottom of the state up.
308 | soxfan4life Mar 19, 2009 11:11:40am |
re: #292 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Vermont.
Maine is getting there as well. Got to wonder what kind of Dems lost out to Snow and Collins.
309 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Mar 19, 2009 11:11:51am |
re: #300 JohnAdams
I’ve always said that every rootless clown at loose ends with a dream will at some point “head out to California.” The place is a victim of its own success.
VDH wrote a piece along those lines recently.
310 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 11:12:32am |
re: #234 JammieWearingFool
I’m thinking that people are going to be crumpling up their brackets on Monday saying, “What the hell just happened.”
There are thirty teams this year that have a chance to get to the final four.
311 | Russkilitlover Mar 19, 2009 11:12:32am |
re: #301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Reagan had better developed “conservative” muscles.
During the recall of Davis, there were many (myself included) who thought that we possibly had a Reagan reincarnate.
312 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 11:12:34am |
re: #302 Honorary Yooper
Vermont is an interesting case. The moonbats there are non-native, and have become a virulent invasive species, akin to kudzu.
You know my dream used to be to live in Vermont. I would drive w/ friend from IL to Vermont. That state is beautiful and so clean, you can see the starts at night, people still use a barter system.
313 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 11:13:02am |
re: #300 JohnAdams
I’ve always said that every rootless clown at loose ends with a dream will at some point “head out to California.” The place is a victim of its own success.
And when the dreams die they move north to the Evergreen State. We here keep getting Californicated.
314 | Nevergiveup Mar 19, 2009 11:13:18am |
re: #306 Afrocity
I agree with Laura Ingram that Megan needs to STFU. She is the typical Columbia grad. McCain should know that the last place to send her would be NYC. She seems insecure to me. I will not discount her because she will mature someday. The left feeds off youth and it is very seductive.
I didn’t know she went to Columbia. I had to go to Columbia in Uniform the other day and I never felt so unwelcome in Uniform. I really didn’t give a shit, but that is how I felt. And I asked the person who I was with if I was being paranoid. He said absolutely not.
315 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mar 19, 2009 11:13:31am |
Oh Boyeeeee! Let’s go beat on Dodd!—————->
316 | FurryOldGuyJeans Mar 19, 2009 11:13:43am |
re: #311 Russkilitlover
During the recall of Davis, there were many (myself included) who thought that we possibly had a Reagan reincarnate.
Both were actors.
317 | SummerSong Mar 19, 2009 11:14:40am |
Let Jay Leno know what you think about Obama-
Suggest a question or two…..or ten.
tonightshowfeedback@nbcuni.com <tonightshowfeedback@nbcuni.com>
318 | alegrias Mar 19, 2009 11:14:54am |
re: #268 ploome hineni
and what do you make of McCains daughter?
* * *
What an embarassment compared to the McCain boys who serve as Marines & Navy officers.
She’s a media whore like her family and loves “faux” celebrity. McCains are part Californian as granny McCain grew up in Beverly Hills so their social liberalism and Valley Girlisms are real, born of proximity to Hollywood & desire to be cool.
If Meghan McCain were my daughter, I would tell her to shut up and go make an honest living. But her parents probably finance her blog, and subsidize her celebrity lifestyle. Plus if Cindy sold her beer distributorship, perhaps there’s no job selling beer for Meghan McCain at the moment.
Meghan voted for John Kerry in 2004, and her mother Cindy confided to people in 2000 that she voted for Al Gore, despite Cindy and John McCain having campaigned publicly for Governor George Bush.
319 | Raven1 Mar 19, 2009 11:17:27am |
re: #168 Afrocity
That is a long time to have a foreign object in your butt.
I work in medical records. Sometimes I read hard to understand occurrences. Like the 67 year old gentleman who came to our ER to have a vibrator removed from his rectum. He was asked: Does it hurt? He answered: Not since the batteries ran out. Also, some of my Masshole neighbors here in Taxachusetts seem to be catching on. Check out the comments on this story on how difficult being an illegal alien in Massachusetts actually is.
320 | Afrocity Mar 19, 2009 11:17:40am |
re: #318 alegrias
I did not know that Cindy voted for Al Gore.
Maybe they should just become Independents.
321 | SummerSong Mar 19, 2009 11:17:55am |
re: #318 alegrias
* * *
What an embarassment compared to the McCain boys who serve as Marines & Navy officers.She’s a media whore like her family and loves “faux” celebrity. McCains are part Californian as granny McCain grew up in Beverly Hills so their social liberalism and Valley Girlisms are real, born of proximity to Hollywood & desire to be cool.
If Meghan McCain were my daughter, I would tell her to shut up and go make an honest living. But her parents probably finance her blog, and subsidize her celebrity lifestyle. Plus if Cindy sold her beer distributorship, perhaps there’s no job selling beer for Meghan McCain at the moment.
Meghan voted for John Kerry in 2004, and her mother Cindy confided to people in 2000 that she voted for Al Gore, despite Cindy and John McCain having campaigned publicly for Governor George Bush.
Disparage Ms. McCain all you like, but don’t paint all Californians with the same brush.
322 | Colonel Panik Mar 19, 2009 11:17:57am |
re: #298 Russkilitlover
When he was first elected, he said all the right things, and even did a couple of right things. He had an ambitious plan for reforms and took it to the voters via ballot initiatives. He was demonized and villified by the nurses’ union, teachers’ union, firefighters’ union, et. al. After that, he packed up his conservative principles and put them away, never to be seen again.
Ahnold wanted the admiration of the people more than he wanted to stand up for conservative principles. There were those of us who saw through him from the very beginning. But too many were blinded with celebrilust to see the RINO-reality. The California Republicans and their out of state enablers who backed Ahnold were willing to sacrifice principle for victory, and wound up with nothing.
The recall was about nothing if not conservative economic principles. And Cali Repubs for the most part rejected the man who most understood economics and had fought the budget battle for years because the liberal media and their own pundits (Yeh, Hewitt and Medved, I’m talking about you!) convinced them a real Reagan Republican could no longer win in California.
323 | AmericanMe Mar 19, 2009 11:18:16am |
re: #226 Pvt Bin Jammin
I know how you feel. Just imagine who we might get for our next governor:
[Link: www.lacity.org…]
Either Newsom or Villaragosa and it makes me SICK! California is toast.
326 | sattv4u2 Mar 19, 2009 11:20:58am |
re: #317 SummerSong
Let Jay Leno know what you think about Obama-
Suggest a question or two…..or ten.tonightshowfeedback@nbcuni.com
Leno
“Mr. President, if you were a tree, what type of tree would you be?”
327 | alegrias Mar 19, 2009 11:21:07am |
re: #321 SummerSong
Disparage Ms. McCain all you like, but don’t paint all Californians with the same brush.
* * *
There are great Californians, we just don’t hear about them as much!
329 | sattv4u2 Mar 19, 2009 11:23:29am |
re: #317 SummerSong
Let Jay Leno know what you think about Obama-
Suggest a question or two…..or ten.tonightshowfeedback@nbcuni.com
Leno
“Mr. President, can I apply for some stimulus money so I can build a parking lot ion the land where my vast chin is?”
330 | AmericanMe Mar 19, 2009 11:25:41am |
re: #328 ploome hineni
WHY DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATS WANT ANMESTY FOR THE ILLEGALS -NO IDENTIFICATION NEEDED TO VOTE-IF NOT TO GET THEIR SOCIALIST AGENDA PASSED
WE ARE SO SCREWED!
331 | Ward Cleaver Mar 19, 2009 11:26:48am |
This is why Mark Levin refers to Arnold as The Jerkinator.
332 | jbolty Mar 19, 2009 11:29:23am |
Arnold represents everything that’s wrong with the republican party.
333 | Irenike Mar 19, 2009 11:35:57am |
re: #314 Nevergiveup
I didn’t know she went to Columbia. I had to go to Columbia in Uniform the other day and I never felt so unwelcome in Uniform. I really didn’t give a shit, but that is how I felt. And I asked the person who I was with if I was being paranoid. He said absolutely not.
And yet, if you ask one of those leftist college campus assholes if they should judge a gangsta rapper or a slutty-looking girl by the way they are dressed, you’ll get an earful about “intolerance,” “prejudice” and “how wrong it is to judge based on appearances.”
But then they contradict themselves. In their view, it’s okay to sneer at men and women in uniform, because, well, the military is the enemy. What a bunch of fools. They would do well to memorize George Orwell’s observation: “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”
Thank you for your service to our country. Many of us support you and your fellow soldiers.
335 | gregb Mar 19, 2009 11:49:34am |
Yummm. East bound 91 lane!
Okay, sorry, no that’s not worth $787 billion in stimulus, but it’s about time!
336 | phoenixgirl Mar 19, 2009 12:18:00pm |
and we’ve all seen how arnold helped california!
337 | UFO TOFU Mar 19, 2009 12:20:48pm |
re: #170 ploome hineni
who does California get to vote into office?
who is available and running for the office?
Do you know anything about Meg Whitman?
338 | Ruebacca Mar 19, 2009 12:50:45pm |
Arnold has failed California big time. He needed to brake the public service unions hold on the legislature and taxpayer. He was the wrong man for the job.
339 | Ruebacca Mar 19, 2009 12:56:22pm |
re: #332 jbolty
Arnold represents everything that’s wrong with the republican party.
Absolutly. The RINO’s have gained too much power. They have no backbone and had the candy store over to the looting democrats. We had a real opportunity with the removal of Grey Davis. Arnold blew it for us.
341 | jorline Mar 19, 2009 1:57:13pm |
Schwarzenegger to Help Obama…beggars come in all sizes.