I was in the mood for a good tale.

Is there ever a midday closed thread?

Biden warns Israel off any attack on Iran

Reporting from Washington — Vice President Joe Biden issued a high-level admonishment to Israel’s new government Tuesday that it would be “ill advised” to launch a military strike against Iran.

Biden said in a CNN interview that he does not believe newly installed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would take such a step. Even so, his comment underscored a gap between the conservative new Israeli government and the Obama White House on a series of questions, including the Israeli-Palestinian peace process and Iran.

So now the U.S. government is publicly running interference on behalf of protecting Iran?

/just in case you still had any illusions as to who’s side the Obama administration is on

The S.S. Minnow was perfectly safe, until overloaded with the addition of Ginger’s wardrobe.

Damned thespians.

Ginger vs Mary Ann

—discuss

re: #4 razorbacker

The S.S. Minnow was perfectly safe, until overloaded with the addition of Ginger’s wardrobe.

Damned thespians.

I thought it was overloaded due to all those boxes of money the Howells had?

I have a fever, and the only prescription is more Lizard banter.

Hey has Obama sent “bail out” money to the Somalis for our acts of terror on their pirates?

Mr. w had a date with Maryann once (or, the actress who played her, of course.) And I met a woman who supposedly turned down the role of Ginger.

re: #4 razorbacker

re: #5 Shug

wow

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Biden warns Israel off any attack on Iran

/just in case you still had any illusions as to who’s side the Obama administration is on

Here’s his generated international crisis! Ready folks?

re: #9 wrenchwench

Mr. w had a date with Maryann once (or, the actress who played her, of course.) And I met a woman who supposedly turned down the role of Ginger.

Do you remember Ginger’s real name?

re: #5 Shug

Ginger vs Mary Ann

—discuss

Mary Ann.

It’s takes three hours to drive to my Mom’s house.

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
a tale of a fateful trip.
Obama went with hat in hand
and ended up with Zip

barrys European vacation #1

re: #5 Shug

Ginger vs Mary Ann

—discuss

Mrs. Howell
/

re: #12 kansas

Do you remember Ginger’s real name?

It wasn’t Ginger?

re: #9 wrenchwench

Mr. w had a date with Maryann once (or, the actress who played her, of course.) And I met a woman who supposedly turned down the role of Ginger.

Maryann was our companies guest of honor on a Bahamas cruise we took back in 98.

Nice fun lady.

Ginger-Tina Louise Playboy 1961

How can CBS and the New York Times Be Taken So Seriously?

We’re bailing out these buffoons? No wonder they’re bankrupt… their judgement certainly is.
www.nlpc.org

re: #2 yesandno

Is there ever a midday closed thread?

That would be the one where we all declare that we have the answers, our minds are made up, and we aren’t interested in hearing what other people think.

/I do think you can find some closed threads out there, but not here.

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Biden warns Israel off any attack on Iran

/just in case you still had any illusions as to who’s side the Obama administration is on

Maybe yes, maybe no but it does seem to be a continuing policy. I did a little search and found this:

Don’t bomb Iran, Bush warns Israel

BY RICHARD SISK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

Wednesday, July 2nd 2008, 9:47 PM

WASHINGTON - President Bush and the top U.S. military commander warned Israel Wednesday against bombing Iran, suggesting the U.S. doesn’t want to get involved in a third war.

“This is a very unstable part of the world and I don’t need it to be more unstable,” Adm. Mike Mullen, the Joint Chiefs chairman, said at a briefing.
Bush said, “I have made it clear to all parties [including Israel] that the first option is diplomacy,” in getting Iran to stop enriching uranium that could be used for a nuclear weapon.

The warnings came after the disclosure that Israel had conducted air operations over the Mediterranean that could simulate a strike on Iran.

This was well known in the latter part of last year. You can find other articles in this search.

Now I suppose all the guys are Googling Tina Louise?

re: #24 kansas

Now I suppose all the guys are Googling Tina Louise?

more like oogling

re: #5 Shug

Ginger vs Mary Ann

—discuss

Mrs. Howell

REASONING,,,,, Mr. Howell either died or divorced her. in eithre case, she’s VERY rich and VERY old
As soon as she crokes, I’ll have all that money and can get as many gingers AND MaryAnns as I want!

re: #23 Gus 802

See my link above in # 21…… he’s getting his orders from the reverend Al…

re: #11 Right mind left

Here’s his generated international crisis! Ready folks?

I see he’s putting his foreign policy expertise to good use. /

re: #20 Devil’s Advocate

How can CBS and the New York Times Be Taken So Seriously?

[Video]

Long history of fooling the general population. Reputation has inertia.

Obama team readying for confrontation with Netanyahu

In an unprecedented move, the Obama administration is readying for a possible confrontation with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by briefing Democratic congressmen on the peace process and the positions of the new government in Israel regarding a two-state solution.

The Obama administration is expecting a clash with Netanyahu over his refusal to support the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

In recent weeks, American officials have briefed senior Democratic congressmen and prepared the ground for the possibility of disagreements with Israel over the peace process, according to information recently received. The administration’s efforts are focused on President Barack Obama’s Democratic Party, which now holds a majority in both the Senate and the House of Representatives.
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The preemptive briefing is meant to foil the possibility that Netanyahu may try to bypass the administration by rallying support in Congress.

Obama adopts the ‘Saudi plan’

/who’s the greater threat to wipe Israel off the map, Ahmadinejad or Obama?

I voted in my township yesterday, and used a Diebold electronic voting machine. Amazing how innocuous these machines become when the statists are in power.

DIEBOLD!

re: #3 Killian Bundy

(Okay. I’ll copy my response over too.)

Let’s put that quote through the Bullshit Decrypter^TM:

Reporting from Washington — Vice President Joe Biden issued a high-level admonishment to Israel’s new government Tuesday that it would be “ill advised” to launch a military strike against Iran should just lie down and die quietly.

Is it possible to go OT on an open thread?

Masters Par 3 Contest is on ESPN at 3ET. Anyone else excited?

I have a coconut phone.

re: #31 daledog

I voted in my township yesterday, and used a Diebold electronic voting machine. Amazing how innocuous these machines become when the statists are in power.

DIEBOLDICAL!

re: #33 simonml

Is it possible to go OT on an open thread?

Masters Par 3 Contest is on ESPN at 3ET. Anyone else excited?

I’d be more excited if it was a contested par 3 masters !

(whatever the hell that means!)

Speaking of Gilligans Island ,,, Think about it

They created phones, housing, vehicles all from the stuff on the island ,,, but couldn’t patch a 3 foot hole in the boat!

Ginger or Mary Ann?

No comparison: Jeannie

re: #33 simonml

Is it possible to go OT on an open thread?

Masters Par 3 Contest is on ESPN at 3ET. Anyone else excited?

I went to Friday a few years ago . Paid about 500 dollars for the pass on stubhub.

Beers were 1.50$
sat on the bleechers on 16 tee all afternoon with my father ( took him for his 70th BDay ) getting drunk, and betting on closest to the pin.

Augusta National is a little slice of heaven. Augusta itself is a dump

re: #5 Shug

Ginger vs Mary Ann

—discuss

I think Mary Ann could take Ginger anyday…bet me

re: #34 SasquatchOnSteroids

I have a coconut phone.

What a coincidence! I have a banana phone!

re: #41 ConservatismNow!

What a coincidence! I have a banana phone!

I have a shoe phone…………..

Sorry about that, Chief

re: #41 ConservatismNow!

Big whup.. I have an Apple phone.
:)

I can’t sing the Star Spangled Banner, after the first stanza, without a cheat sheet.

I don’t remember my alma mater’s song.

For years, I wondered why Hendrix wanted us to “Excuse me, while I kiss this guy.”

But I can sing the theme song to Gilligan’s Island without a stumble.

I’ve got a teflon brain.

I’m hopelessly behind the news today, but apparently the Somali pirates are still holding the Captain of the ship?

Korean combo covering ‘Billie Jean’

re: #39 Shug

I went to Friday a few years ago . Paid about 500 dollars for the pass on stubhub.

Beers were 1.50$
sat on the bleechers on 16 tee all afternoon with my father ( took him for his 70th BDay ) getting drunk, and betting on closest to the pin.

Augusta National is a little slice of heaven. Augusta itself is a dump

Words cannot express how jealous I am. And not just b/c the $1.50 beers. Its a dream of mine to see a round at Augusta National. I saw Pinehurst #2 a few years back when they hosted the US Open

re: #5 Shug

As long as there’s jello involved, EVERYBODY is a winner.

re: #30 Killian Bundy

We shoulda known things were bad when BHO confessed that his favorite tv character was Omar, the gay drug pusher/stickup man from The Wire.

re: #43 tradewind

Big whup.. I have an Apple phone.
:)

Oh yeah? So what! I can replace my banana phone at any grocery store AND I get a bulk discount.

For years, I wondered why Hendrix wanted us to “Excuse me, while I kiss this guy.”

I always thought that was the line, but have since found out that is “Excuse me, while I kiss the sky”

I betcha the Obama Weather Machine will leave some sailors stranded.

re: #45 lincolntf

Thought the crew took ‘em down….

re: #51 smokefire

For years, I wondered why Hendrix wanted us to “Excuse me, while I kiss this guy.”

I always thought that was the line, but have since found out that is “Excuse me, while I kiss the sky”

really?

re: #37 sattv4u2

Speaking of Gilligans Island ,,, Think about it

They created phones, housing, vehicles all from the stuff on the island ,,, but couldn’t patch a 3 foot hole in the boat!

If you looked like the Skipper, and suddenly found yourself being depended on by a couple of cuties like Ginger and Mary Ann, how hard would you have been working on the hole in the boat?

re: #54 albusteve

Really!

re: #22 EmmmieG

That would be the one where we all declare that we have the answers, our minds are made up, and we aren’t interested in hearing what other people think.
/I do think you can find some closed threads out there, but not here.

Must be the Obama thread! : )

Ginger
Image: 0000025552-20734L.jpg

re: #50 ConservatismNow!

Oh yeah? So what! I can replace my banana phone at any grocery store AND I get a bulk discount.

I’ve seen a Chick-eat-a banana, does that count ?

re: #1 Cognito

I was in the mood for a good tale.

Ginger or Maryanne?

re: #55 razorbacker

skipper was big enough to plug the hole in the boat by himself!

re: #53 tradewind

Me too. I heard that subsequent reports said that the crew had control of the ship, but the pirates are holding the Captain himself isolated somewhere on the ship. Local radio newsbreak.

This sounds like a REALLY bad idea. Maybe it’s just me.

re: #55 razorbacker

If it were me, the boat would have an “accident.”

re: #44 razorbacker

I can’t sing the Star Spangled Banner, after the first stanza, without a cheat sheet.

I don’t remember my alma mater’s song.

For years, I wondered why Hendrix wanted us to “Excuse me, while I kiss this guy.”

But I can sing the theme song to Gilligan’s Island without a stumble.

I’ve got a teflon brain.

I sympathize, but you just made “Louie, Louie” pop into my head, so no updings for that one!

re: #56 smokefire

Really!

Hendrix was a notorious wank…legendary, but you never know..actually that is a very easy mistake to make

re: #55 razorbacker

If you looked like the Skipper, and suddenly found yourself being depended on by a couple of cuties like Ginger and Mary Ann, how hard would you have been working on the hole in the boat?

“Well ladies, it’s the darndest thing. Six straight months working on that hole, and I’m still at it. What I really need to patch it, as it turns out, is a bit of nylon and elastic. Shame we don’t have any nearby…. What’s that?”

re: #60 saberry0530

Ginger or Maryanne?

Both.

re: #64 Bumr50

As subsailor68 would say………………

There only 2 types of ships.
Submarines & TARGETS.

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Anyway, just want to say that I think Israel should go ahead and strike at the appropriate targets in Iran when they feel it necessary for their national security and what meets their best interest regardless.

re: #63 ConservatismNow!

Well, BHO’s about to start seeding the clouds to try to cool down the global climate heat emergency. All bets are off.
You know, there’s multi-tasking, and then there’s just plain old ADHD, and Teh One is classic.

re: #70 Gus 802

Bibi vs Barack…. doesn’t seem like much of a contest to me.

re: #66 albusteve

Not unlike the Steven Stills and LOVE THE ONE YOU’RE WITH.

……….and there’s a rose in the fisted glove

I heard a lot of other lines for that too.

re: #55 razorbacker

If you looked like the Skipper, and suddenly found yourself being depended on by a couple of cuties like Ginger and Mary Ann, how hard would you have been working on the hole in the boat?

If I were Maryann and/ or Ginger and I looked around , only saw the Skipper, a doufus, a brainiac and an old guy whose wife was there. I’d either
FIX THE BOAT
OR
START SWIMMING

Mrs Howell vs Helen Thomas

Grab air sick bag
then
discuss

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
a tale of a fateful trip.

OH NOES!

We’ll never get off this thread!

On CNN right now, talking to a man on the ship.

re: #70 Gus 802

Anyway, just want to say that I think Israel should go ahead and strike at the appropriate targets in Iran when they feel it necessary for their national security and what meets their best interest regardless.

something tells me you’re right…in the end BO will be easier to deal with than Bush….if the US cant ramp up in Afghanistan BO would be twisting in the wind to call out the Israelis…

re: #65 jwb7605

Oh, man. I am so sorry.

Ever hear the opening of ‘Barney’?

Go check that known right-wing bastion Fox—they have a segment on it as I type

re: #70 Gus 802

Anyway, just want to say that I think Israel should go ahead and strike at the appropriate targets in Iran when they feel it necessary for their national security and what meets their best interest regardless.

If Israel is going to be concerned about what Joe Biden says, then Bebi Netanyau is having a Jimmy Carter moment.

re: #63 ConservatismNow!

This sounds like a REALLY bad idea. Maybe it’s just me.

It’s those full Solar mass experiments that are dangerous. This one uses significantly less mass.

re: #19 kansas

Ginger-Tina Louise Playboy 1961

Okay, kansas. Got a link for that?

(Just kidding, heh.)

Jack, Gary Player and Arnie are teeing off on the 1st of the Par 3. Think they ever shoot their age in golf? I know Arnie is 80. Seems doable

Apparently our guys took a hostage of their own. Captain of the ship set adrift with pirates in a dinghy.

re: #82 CyanSnowHawk

It’s those full Solar mass experiments that are dangerous. This one uses significantly less mass.

…………..It’s not nice to fool with Mother Nature

re: #63 ConservatismNow!

This sounds like a REALLY bad idea. Maybe it’s just me.

I’m not opposed to the research. It sounds like a good idea.

I worked in the “laser” industry for a long time. One of the most common things the PhD’s used to tell me was “you can get a tennis shoe to lase if you put enough energy into it”.

That type of reaction is “clean”. No “spent fuel rods to Yucca Mountain” type clean.

re: #73 smokefire

Not unlike the Steven Stills and LOVE THE ONE YOU’RE WITH.

……….and there’s a rose in the fisted glove

I heard a lot of other lines for that too.

I am a big Stones fan and without liner lyrics I NEVER knew what the hell Jagger was singing…he did that intentionally because his lyrics are so raunchy and subversive of the norm….exactly why I love them!

re: #84 simonml

Jack, Gary Player and Arnie are teeing off on the 1st of the Par 3. Think they ever shoot their age in golf? I know Arnie is 80. Seems doable

as good as he was, at 80 years old he’s lucky to shoot his age on the front 9, IMHO

re: #83 subsailor68

Okay, kansas. Got a link for that?

(Just kidding, heh.)

Aren’t the vintage Playboys stowed in the gear locker on the starboard side of tube 2?

//;-P

re: #78 albusteve

something tells me you’re right…in the end BO will be easier to deal with than Bush….if the US cant ramp up in Afghanistan BO would be twisting in the wind to call out the Israelis…

CAN ramp up…

re: #55 razorbacker

If you looked like the Skipper, and suddenly found yourself being depended on by a couple of cuties like Ginger and Mary Ann, how hard would you have been working on the hole in the boat?

You’re right. The Skipper was just biding his time until Gilligan died by misadventure (It was bound to happen.) Then his only competition would be the Professor. Since the Skipper was the de facto government, he would declare polygamy illegal thus insuring he would get either Ginger or Maryanne. It’s a win-win for him.

re: #79 razorbacker

Oh, man. I am so sorry.

Ever hear the opening of ‘Barney’?

SADIST!
//

OK , how come Lovie & Thurgood got the biggest, nicest hut?

re: #90 jcm

Aren’t the vintage Playboys stowed in the gear locker on the starboard side of tube 2?

//;-P

Shhhh!

;-)

re: #94 opnion

OK , how come Lovie & Thurgood got the biggest, nicest hut?

Thurston

re: #87 jwb7605

I don’t tan well. I don’t want another sun.

re: #88 albusteve

I am a big Stones fan and without liner lyrics I NEVER knew what the hell Jagger was singing…he did that intentionally because his lyrics are so raunchy and subversive of the norm….exactly why I love them!

…………….”lets spend the night together some time together

re: #88 albusteve

I am a big Stones fan and without liner lyrics I NEVER knew what the hell Jagger was singing…he did that intentionally because his lyrics are so raunchy and subversive of the norm….exactly why I love them!

There was a group called Hayseed Dixie that covered rock tunes in a bluegrass genre. You could actually hear the lyrics to ‘Walk this Way.’

My daughter was horrified.

re: #86 smokefire

…………..It’s not nice to fool with Mother Nature

She’s the one that put the playground next to the toxic waste dump, she’s got no room to complain.

re: #78 albusteve

something tells me you’re right…in the end BO will be easier to deal with than Bush….if the US cant ramp up in Afghanistan BO would be twisting in the wind to call out the Israelis…

Good point. The current administration is more smoke than fire. Regarding Biden I think he’s getting carried away and eventually his big mouth is going to catch up with us. They need to bring him back into the White House and lock the doors.

re: #95 subsailor68

Shhhh!

;-)

Opps, sorry!

re: #94 opnion

Great, now I’ve got this mental image of Thurston Howell III singing “Who Do You Love.”

re: #98 smokefire

…………….”lets spend the night together some time together

that was nothing…go to Keno’s Stones lyrics and read some of the stuff they wrote….good LORD!

re: #99 razorbacker

There was a group called Hayseed Dixie that covered rock tunes in a bluegrass genre. You could actually hear the lyrics to ‘Walk this Way.’

My daughter was horrified.

Hayseed Dixie is AWESOME! I have a bunch of their sounds on my Zune. The cover of J. Geil Band’s “Centerfold” is better than the original.

re: #99 razorbacker

There was a group called Hayseed Dixie that covered rock tunes in a bluegrass genre. You could actually hear the lyrics to ‘Walk this Way.’

My daughter was horrified.

The rendition of AC/DC “Back in Black” is really good. On youtube.

re: #57 yesandno

I decide who lives and who dies. I called it. - Crow T. Robot

re: #65 jwb7605
I know…my college sorority house was next door to the Chi O’s, and for years we were certain that Louie Louie was written to trash them.
:)
What a letdown when I saw the actual lyrics in print years later…..

re: #96 sattv4u2

Thurston

No, it was Thurgood Marshal.

re: #104 joncelli

Great, now I’ve got this mental image of Thurston Howell III singing “Who Do You Love.”

SEEK HELP NOW!

re: #102 Gus 802

Good point. The current administration is more smoke than fire. Regarding Biden I think he’s getting carried away and eventually his big mouth is going to catch up with us. They need to bring him back into the White House and lock the doors.

the Israelis need to act unilaterally and I think they will….BO will be stupified and Bibi will school him…that’s my hope since forever

Jeannie, or Laurie Partridge?

(Assume you are forced to choose only one)

re: #5 Shug

Ginger vs Mary Ann

—discuss

Mary Ann, definitely. Mary Ann has aged more gracefully than Ginger.

The pirates have two Americans held hostage on a lifeboat fleeing the scene of the hijacking. Fox is talking to a guy who paid a ransom for his crew/ship.

re: #94 opnion

OK , how come Lovie & Thurgood got the biggest, nicest hut?

Obama would fix that.

re: #30 Killian Bundy

re: #99 razorbacker

There was a group called Hayseed Dixie that covered rock tunes in a bluegrass genre. You could actually hear the lyrics to ‘Walk this Way.’

My daughter was horrified.

Check in to Richard Cheese and Lounge Against the Machine.

re: #99 razorbacker

There was a group called Hayseed Dixie that covered rock tunes in a bluegrass genre. You could actually hear the lyrics to ‘Walk this Way.’

My daughter was horrified.

my girl grew up with the Stones…finally in collrge she figured out what they were saying and said …”dad know I know why you like them so much!”….they have layed out some really appalling stuff when you figure it out….woooohoooo

Fat Bottomed Girls by Hayseed Dixie cracks me up.

re: #115 lincolntf

Looks as though Obama will have his incident to deal with after all.

re: #99 razorbacker

There was a group called Hayseed Dixie that covered rock tunes in a bluegrass genre. You could actually hear the lyrics to ‘Walk this Way.’

My daughter was horrified.

btw I will check those guys out….thanks

re: #108 Sifty

I decide who lives and who dies. I called it. - Crow T. Robot

You know you want me, baby! - Crow T. Robot

re: #114 Ward Cleaver

Mary Ann, definitely. Mary Ann has aged more gracefully than Ginger.

Yow. No wonder they finally came back

re: #94 opnion

Maybe, but look at it this way…. now they’re upside down…..

re: #106 ConservatismNow!

You have to check out Poor Man’s Whiskey’s “Dark Side of the Moon”.

re: #115 lincolntf

Shit. So did the crew take back the ship or did the pirates simply retreat to take their hostages and grab the ransom?

re: #110 opnion

No, it was Thurgood Marshal.

No,, that was Marshalls Tucker Band

re: #117 Russkilitlover

Oops! Meant to reply to who is the bigger danger to Israel - Obama or Ahmadinijad:

Alone? Neither. Together? ‘Bye Israel.

re: #121 irongrampa

Looks as though Obama will have his incident to deal with after all.

…………………..and fold up like a 3 dollar suitcase.

re: #121 irongrampa

Yeah, Somali pirates are about the right training wheel speed for him…..

My favorite episode was when Gilligan teamed up with Enkidu to defeat the demon Humbaba.

re: #116 Ward Cleaver

Obama would fix that.

That is the correct answer, Barry was not there to implement “Economic Justice!”

re: #109 tradewind

I know…my college sorority house was next door to the Chi O’s, and for years we were certain that Louie Louie was written to trash them.
:)
What a letdown when I saw the actual lyrics in print years later…..

a HUGE myth….classic party song

re: #132 Occasional Reader

Skipper and his little buddy Gilgamesh?

re: #121 irongrampa

Let’s hope it ends quick and without further bloodshed. I don’t see any way out for Americans successfully held/hidden by Somali outlaws. Life’s real cheap in those parts, as I’m sure you know.
Reportedly, warships are en route with a quickness.

re: #127 joncelli

Unclear. No ransom, though.

re: #135 joncelli

Skipper and his little buddy Gilgamesh?

Maryanne, or Ishtar?

re: #112 albusteve

the Israelis need to act unilaterally and I think they will….BO will be stupified and Bibi will school him…that’s my hope since forever

They’ve done so before and I think they would do so again. Having Bibi back on board certainly improves the outlook to that end. Short of a civil war in Iran the prospects for Iran reversing their course looks nil. Both Iran and North Korea must not be allowed to attain nuclear weapons even if it entails challenging Russia and China.

A very interesting video “Dealing With The Relative Size Of Things In The Universe
And The Effect of Adding Another Zero.” 9 minutes long but well worth it.
G’day, Lizards…

re: #136 lincolntf

Let’s hope it ends quick and without further bloodshed. I don’t see any way out for Americans successfully held/hidden by Somali outlaws. Life’s real cheap in those parts, as I’m sure you know.
Reportedly, warships are en route with a quickness.

if they murder the captain there will be hell to pay…BO or not

re: #115 lincolntf

The pirates have two Americans held hostage on a lifeboat fleeing the scene of the hijacking. Fox is talking to a guy who paid a ransom for his crew/ship.

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT

Charles,
Can I please say

Lets kill all of those Pirates, and not get deleted?

re: #118 NukeAtomrod

You’d have to check that out just because of the name.

While watching the news about the Somalia piracy I was wondering when we were going to hear from our Commander in Chief. As the afternoon wears on all we got was a indecisive quip about the White House “monitoring the situation”. Well the pirates must be plenty scared by that. The only thing being monitored by Pennsylvania is the grit and guts of the ships crew. While Obama lounges around doing nothing the crew is undoubtedly trying to devise a way to free their Captain and save their ship. If Obama had any experience or if he was a decisive President he would have at least put out a press release like this:

“Upon learning of the treacherous attack on a peaceful American cargo ship, engaged in lawful passage in international waters, President Obama has ordered a naval task force with 1500 marines and a contingent of U.S. Navy Seals with all of their equipment into the area.
His (anemic) Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has also issued a statement on behalf of the administration demanding the immediate and unconditional release of the crew and the vessel. The US Navy has assured the President that the Pirates will find no safe port and will use all means at their disposal to protect American lives and property anywhere in the world.”

re: #134 albusteve

When you’re packed in and ankle-deep in draft beer in a basement, anything sounds good…..

re: #131 tradewind

Yeah, Somali pirates are about the right training wheel speed for him…..

He must get up to speed faster than that.

re: #143 smokefire

(aarrrghhh)

Remember when Gilligan was dreaming about being 0bama?

“I promise you dis, dat and the udder ting!”
;)

Twilight zone music theme pleas….

Caller on Medved for conspiracy day.

Kissinger is a quadruple agent zionist/communist/nazis/and something else. The holocaust was perpetrated by Zionist Nazis to generate sympathy for the Jews and establish the State of Israel.

WOW! Somebody forget their meds today.

re: #150 jcm

Twilight zone music theme pleas….

Caller on Medved for conspiracy day.

Kissinger is a quadruple agent zionist/communist/nazis/and something else. The holocaust was perpetrated by Zionist Nazis to generate sympathy for the Jews and establish the State of Israel.

WOW! Somebody forget their meds today.

a perfect example of why i never listen to shows like that….

re: #139 Gus 802

They’ve done so before and I think they would do so again. Having Bibi back on board certainly improves the outlook to that end. Short of a civil war in Iran the prospects for Iran reversing their course looks nil. Both Iran and North Korea must not be allowed to attain nuclear weapons even if it entails challenging Russia and China.

Iran is going for it no question…Americans are not that sharp about defense or world affairs but if they think they could get nuked and the president is sucking up to the very culprits they will replace him…BO will not be re-elected

re; Somali pirates.

What ever happened to the convoy system?

re: #153 brookly red

re; Somali pirates.

What ever happened to the convoy system?

CB radio fad faded away.

re: #136 lincolntf

Let’s hope it ends quick and without further bloodshed. I don’t see any way out for Americans successfully held/hidden by Somali outlaws. Life’s real cheap in those parts, as I’m sure you know.
Reportedly, warships are en route with a quickness.

Not quick enough. We should have VERY rapid response capacity in these waters. Are you listening, Secretary Gates?

If they’re in a lifeboat… hopefully that means the boat has limited or no propulsion, so they aren’t going anywhere. Perhaps after nightfall, get Seal snipers in place with thermal scopes, take out the pirates simultaneously?

re: #151 redc1c4

a perfect example of why i never listen to shows like that….

Medved lets them hang themselves. He asked if the caller could name a Zoinist Nazi…. “umm, ahh, err *click*.”

Eh, the World is upside down… The Florida Marlins are 3-0.

…The leaders of Europe came naked to the Nato meeting last weekend, shorn of the cover provided by Bush-hatred. As the American commentator Robert Kagan puts it: “George W Bush did the Europeans a great favour by giving them the best excuse for inaction in transatlantic history.” Europe’s leaders have always claimed they would co-operate with America in all things, were it not for that toxic Texan with his unilateralist belief in spreading democracy and free markets.

At the Nato meetings, “weak-kneed” took on an added meaning – no significant permanent deployment of fighting troops to aid the Americans. Obama was prepared for the turn-down, although he did harbour the illusion that in the end Gordon Brown would come up with more than a few poll-watchers. After all, the President had gone out of his way to sprinkle some of his stardust on the embattled Prime Minister. Unfortunately, Obama had not been briefed by Tony Blair on Brown’s capacity for gratitude.

Turkey was a somewhat better stopover for the travelling President, who had no specific requests that could be turned down. The persistently fawning New York Times reported that the President was “showing more self-confidence each day on his maiden overseas trip as President”, although how Obama could show more self-confidence than he already has is difficult to imagine: this is a man confident in self to a point that is slightly unnerving.

Obama had won favour with European audiences by proclaiming that America has shown inadequate respect for Europe’s accomplishments. So he carried his I-am-not-George-Bush campaign to Ankara by implying that the US bears responsibility for “the difficulties of these last few years” between Muslim countries and America. No need to mention the World Trade Centre, Khobar Towers, the USS Cole or his support in the Senate for labelling as “genocide” the killing of Armenian Christians by Ottoman Turks. More politic to support Turkey’s application for membership in the EU, despite a mind-your-own-business warning from President Sarkozy, who earlier agreed to accept one – yes, one – of the 245 Guantánamo detainees because that is “what being allies is about”.

After having spent an entire presidential campaign playing down his full name and early years, the President had himself introduced to the Turkish parliament as Barack Hussein Obama, and pointed out that “Many other Americans have Muslims in their family, or have lived in a Muslim-majority country. I know, because I am one of them.” This, on the heels of his deep bow to Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah (the Queen of England merited what can at best be described as a deferential nod). There is more to come: the President will soon travel to an as yet unnamed Muslim country to deliver a major speech laying out his views on Islam.

The question for Obama is what he does about coming home with nothing tangible to show for his trip. He has made the war in Afghanistan his very own, deploying the forces that he claims were diverted from the real fight against terrorism by the war in Iraq. He has set forth a reasonable strategy and been careful not to ask his Nato allies to join America in attacking terrorist bases inside Pakistan. Still, a Bushless America, with a coherent strategy, making a measured request for help, could not win over European leaders who have learned to free-ride on America. After all, the Europeans have their welfare states to fund, and Britain is so broke that ministers are leaking stories about the non-humiliating virtues of an IMF bail-out.

The usually soft-spoken Charles Krauthammer…
President Barack Obama is going home with non, nein and no ringing in his ears

What ever happened to the convoy system, and how about zig zagging too.

So apparently there are 2 Americans presently held hostage, in a small craft, the rest of the crew is safe, if I understand correctly.
The nearest Navy vessel is less than 300 miles away, or 15 hours. That doesn’t sound right.

re: #121 irongrampa

Looks as though Obama will have his incident to deal with after all.

Wish there were some Ospreys available that could get there quickly. Their speed and VTOL capability would be perfect for this scenario.

re: #114 Ward Cleaver

Mary Ann, definitely. Mary Ann has aged more gracefully than Ginger.

Plastic surgery death-mask on that one. Ewww.

re: #155 Occasional Reader

Not quick enough. We should have VERY rapid response capacity in these waters. Are you listening, Secretary Gates?

If they’re in a lifeboat… hopefully that means the boat has limited or no propulsion, so they aren’t going anywhere. Perhaps after nightfall, get Seal snipers in place with thermal scopes, take out the pirates simultaneously?

Ospreys….

re: #153 brookly red

re; Somali pirates.

What ever happened to the convoy system?

Obama favors diplomacy; so we have instead the envoy system.

Repost of Krauthammer comments from Monday’s Fox News…
Krauthammer: Europe’s Been Sucking On America’s Tit For 60 Years

re: #144 razorbacker

You’d have to check that out just because of the name.

You won’t be sorry.

We can’t do anything against those Pirates, because………………………………..They are Muslims, and we can’t offend our Muslim friends///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

re: #154 CyanSnowHawk

you snark good, I like that.

re: #155 Occasional Reader

Problem: thermal scopes aren’t going to allow the snipers to distinguish between the pirates and the hostage.

When Obama meets with the Pirate King to offer his unclenched hand, what would be an appropriate gift?

*don’t know yet if this is /s or not.*

re: #163 albusteve

Unless there’s a cruiser with a helo pad, no chance of that. Even a lightly armed helo would be a plus, tho’.

re: #169 Dianna

Problem: thermal scopes aren’t going to allow the snipers to distinguish between the pirates and the hostage.

the pirates have the guns

re: #5 Shug

Ginger vs Mary Ann

—discuss

Why choose?

re: #170 jcm

When Obama meets with the Pirate King to offer his unclenched hand, what would be an appropriate gift?

*don’t know yet if this is /s or not.*

An iPod and a DVD collection. //

re: #167 smokefire

stop breaking my screen ! Limit your (//////’s) to a dozen or so!

We now return you to your normally scheduled outrage!

re: #171 irongrampa

Unless there’s a cruiser with a helo pad, no chance of that. Even a lightly armed helo would be a plus, tho’.

OR and I were discussing the merits of the Osprey recently

Okay, who just shoved the page off center?

re: #152 albusteve

… horse out, barn door locked too late ring a bell?
The orderly process of campaign and re-election is not going to do much good when you’re talking a mad mullah with nukes.
The electorate has already screwed up by falling for style over security in November ‘08.

re: #177 irongrampa

Okay, who just shoved the page off center?

#167 ,,, I reprimanded him in 175!

re: #174 Gus 802

An iPod and a DVD collection. //

Pirates of The Caribbean box set!

re: #172 albusteve

the pirates have the guns

I wonder why more of the ship don’t have a security force of their own. I think a couple of Stoner 63s might do the trick. Some RPGs, etc.

re: #160 irongrampa

I heard they’ll be in ship-borne helicopter range in a couple hours. Don’t know what that means in terms of distance.

re: #169 Dianna

Problem: thermal scopes aren’t going to allow the snipers to distinguish between the pirates and the hostage.

Good point. But if I’m not mistaken, the latest generation optics are hybrid thermal/light intensification. The guys holding the weapons are the bad guys…

But I don’t know what their shooting platform could be, on such short notice, unless they have a VERY quiet chopper available.

re: #172 albusteve

the pirates have the guns

True, but you still can’t tell the difference easily.

Attack group roll call

Steven Segal,
John Rambo
Chuck Norris
Gunny John Highway {Clint}

re: #178 tradewind

… horse out, barn door locked too late ring a bell?
The orderly process of campaign and re-election is not going to do much good when you’re talking a mad mullah with nukes.
The electorate has already screwed up by falling for style over security in November ‘08.

good thing they are fickle then….the worm will turn

re: #157 tfc3rid

0-3 ǝɹɐ suılɹɐɯ ɐpıɹolɟ ǝɥʇ ˙˙˙uʍop ǝpısdn sı plɹoʍ ǝɥʇ ‘ɥǝ

re: #181 Gus 802

I wonder why more of the ship don’t have a security force of their own. I think a couple of Stoner 63s might do the trick. Some RPGs, etc.

Most likely because if they ships DID , and the pirates took over the ship anyway, then the PIRATES would have a couple of Stoner 63s and RPG’s

Sources report that President Obama is on board Marine One at this moment en-route to the scene with duffel bags full of Euros to gain the release of the crew…

re: #181 Gus 802

I wonder why more of the ship don’t have a security force of their own. I think a couple of Stoner 63s might do the trick. Some RPGs, etc.

AFAIK, it is a violation of international law to carry weapons aboard a civilian ship such as this one. Which never stops the pirates for some reason.

Israel informs US that that punishment of the “shoe bomber” is unjust.

No, not really. So why does the US State Department think it has the right to tell Israel how to handle terrorism directed at Israelis?

Israeli Home Demolitions

Robert Wood

Acting Department Spokesman, Office of the Spokesman

Bureau of Public Affairs

Israeli Home Demolitions

Robert Wood

Acting Department Spokesman, Office of the Spokesman

Bureau of Public Affairs

Washington, DC

QUESTION TAKEN AT THE APRIL 7 DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

April 8, 2009

Question: Have we raised the issue of Israeli police demolishing the home of a Palestinian man who killed three Israelis last year?

Answer: We have discussed the issue with the Israelis.

re: #168 brookly red

you snark good, I like that.

10-4, catch you on the flip-side.

re: #190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

AFAIK, it is a violation of international law to carry weapons aboard a civilian ship such as this one. Which never stops the pirates for some reason.

I was wondering about that. Well, might be time to change that law.

re: #181 Gus 802
They should do like some of the Garden District home owners did after Katrina and hire some former IDF/ Israeli security guards. There would not be a pirate problem.

re: #185 smokefire

Attack group roll call

Steven Segal,
John Rambo
Chuck Norris
Gunny John Highway {Clint}

the Unit.

re: #188 sattv4u2

Most likely because if they ships DID , and the pirates took over the ship anyway, then the PIRATES would have a couple of Stoner 63s and RPG’s

Right!

Unless everyone carried his weapon at all times, all you’re doing is arming the pirates.

re: #156 jcm

Medved lets them hang themselves. He asked if the caller could name a Zoinist Nazi…. “umm, ahh, err *click*.”

i still don’t want to hear the rantings…… it’s the same reason i’m usually not very sociable on the j*b: i’m allergic to stupidity.

This pirate story is unreal… I sure hope that the Americans did not ‘take back the ship’ by paying off the pirates…

And now we have Americans held hostage? That’s not good…

As I said a long time ago with these pirates, we’ve got the blow their mother ships out of the water… Should have done it months ago…

re: #185 smokefire

Attack group roll call

Steven Segal,
John Rambo
Chuck Norris
Gunny John Highway {Clint}

Come on now, you cant mix character and actor names!

re: #172 albusteve

the pirates have the guns

I am guessing for things to be as reported the crew must have gotten a hold of at least one gun… and who’s bright idea was it to make the ships gun free zones, anyway?

re: #190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

AFAIK, it is a violation of international law to carry weapons aboard a civilian ship such as this one. Which never stops the pirates for some reason.

It seems as though you’ve also touched upon the basic, fundamental problem with gun control. Mmm…

I think I’d wait a bit for the copter, and have it make a large unsightly hole in the pirate craft, then sit back.

re: #173 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why choose?

Phils down 2-0 mid 1st… Off to another good start!

re: #188 sattv4u2

Most likely because if they ships DID , and the pirates took over the ship anyway, then the PIRATES would have a couple of Stoner 63s and RPG’s

The pirates will be armed anyway. And it seems to me that rarely do these incidents occur by stealth; the pirates generally aren’t able to sneak aboard. So an armed crew would usually have warning.

re: #99 razorbacker

There was a group called Hayseed Dixie that covered rock tunes in a bluegrass genre. You could actually hear the lyrics to ‘Walk this Way.’

My daughter was horrified.

I remember some French acoustic / folk outfit doing a cover of Joy Division’s “Love Will Tear Us Apart”.

Some things should, like the Necronomicon, not be imagined.

re: #195 jwb7605

the Unit.

The A-Team.
Snake-Eyes from G.I. Joe

re: #188 sattv4u2

Most likely because if they ships DID , and the pirates took over the ship anyway, then the PIRATES would have a couple of Stoner 63s and RPG’s

Perhaps. I know if were in those water I’d take my chances.

re: #199 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sorry, I got carried away.

re: #190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

AFAIK, it is a violation of international law to carry weapons aboard a civilian ship such as this one. Which never stops the pirates for some reason.

do it anyway…fuck international law…pretty simple

re: #184 Dianna

True, but you still can’t tell the difference easily.

with current issue thermal systems, yes you can.

Is this the thread for the Pirates of Punzance?

re: #1 Cognito

I was in the mood for a good tale.

And I was in the mood for a nooner—oops- different … Oh, never mind.

re: #203 tfc3rid

Phils down 2-0 mid 1st… Off to another good start!

Is this Opening Day or Groundhog Day?

re: #192 CyanSnowHawk

I found a portable CB radio that I’d forgotten I had. On a whim, I decided to hook it up and see what the airwaves sounded like now.

Truckers have evidently moved on to cell phones.

re: #193 Gus 802

I was wondering about that. Well, might be time to change IGNORE that law.

re: #181 Gus 802

I wonder why more of the ship don’t have a security force of their own. I think a couple of Stoner 63s might do the trick. Some RPGs, etc.

Marijuana thread!

re: #210 redc1c4

with current issue thermal systems, yes you can.

I haven’t played with them.

Pirate Waters: A Gun Free Zone

//

re: #209 albusteve

do it anyway…fuck international law…pretty simple

that needs to be read twice.

I have one simple word to put an end to these hijackings: BLACKWATER. A sea full of dead pirates being devoured by sharks would probably be enough to end this whole fiasco.

re: #149 gmsc

Remember when Gilligan was dreaming about being 0bama?

“I promise you dis, dat and the udder ting!”
;)

Here’s the part I was talking about! (Full episode here)

re: #204 Occasional Reader

The pirates will be armed anyway. And it seems to me that rarely do these incidents occur by stealth; the pirates generally aren’t able to sneak aboard. So an armed crew would usually have warning.

I wasn;t disagreeing that the ships should be armed, I was explaining

re: #204 Occasional Reader

The pirates will be armed anyway. And it seems to me that rarely do these incidents occur by stealth; the pirates generally aren’t able to sneak aboard. So an armed crew would usually have warning.

loud sound and super hot steam…cook the fuckers

re: #208 smokefire

Sorry, I got carried away.

See that it doesn’t happen again.

So what was the list for anyways?

re: #186 albusteve

What we have here is a failure to communicate

.
…..sheriff, Cool Hand Luke
I’m afraid it takes the worm a little longer to turn than would be useful in that scenario.

re: #20 Devil’s Advocate

I totally enjoy your vids!

re: #182 lincolntf

I heard they’ll be in ship-borne helicopter range in a couple hours. Don’t know what that means in terms of distance.

US warship is 300 miles out and closing, other nations war ships may be closer.

re: #181 Gus 802

I think there’s a big difference in having a ship that can declare itself completely “un-armed”, for both smuggling and traditional maritime/naval purposes, and one that has even the smallest amount of weaponry on board. It may be an archaic ideal, but I remember learning about the distinction in some class or another.
Still, it’s stupid not to at least allow personal arms in a friggin’ “pirate zone”. I assume whatever rules there are get bent regularly.

re: #216 Zimriel

Marijuana thread!

Like wow man. I was looking at a Stoner 63 online the other night. $100,000!

re: #211 Shug

re: #181 Gus 802

I wonder why more of the ship don’t have a security force of their own. I think a couple of Stoner 63s might do the trick. Some RPGs, etc.

Bill and Ted Go to Somalia?

re: #220 Captain Amercia

Hey CA why are you shouting tonight? Tell us how you really feel.////

If there was a sub with Seals on board, they could board the ship in the dark and take it over. The SDV (Swimmer Delivery Vehicle) is a small electric sub carried by the larger subs, and wouldn’t make the noise of a surface boat. For that matter, it would just have to stay submerged and release the Seals.

re: #229 Gus 802

Like wow man. I was looking at a Stoner 63 online the other night. $100,000!

No hippie is worth that.

re: #217 Dianna

I haven’t played with them.

even the AN/TAS4 i trained on years ago was good enough to tell who had what, even though it was designed to locate tanks for my TOW system. look at some of the gun camera footage on live leak from Apaches firing up AIF: you can see weapons, and even shell casings falling from the birds.

re: #197 redc1c4

i still don’t want to hear the rantings…… it’s the same reason i’m usually not very sociable on the j*b: i’m allergic to stupidity.

LOL!

Makes me feel smart…..
////

re: #190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

AFAIK, it is a violation of international law to carry weapons aboard a civilian ship such as this one. Which never stops the pirates for some reason.

Do you recall a source for this? I’m not aware of any applicable treaty.

re: #176 albusteve

OR and I were discussing the merits of the Osprey recently

Ospreys have aerial refueling capability (they flew four nonstop from Florida to Africa last November), and even the USAF have a special ops version.

re: #155 Occasional Reader

Not quick enough. We should have VERY rapid response capacity in these waters. Are you listening, Secretary Gates?

If they’re in a lifeboat… hopefully that means the boat has limited or no propulsion, so they aren’t going anywhere. Perhaps after nightfall, get Seal snipers in place with thermal scopes, take out the pirates simultaneously?

* * * * *
Silly OR.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the only time the last democrat administration “rescued” anyone by force, it was on Easter Sunday 2000, from American citizens by forceful home invasion, and as a present to Fidel Castro.

re: #169 Dianna

Problem: thermal scopes aren’t going to allow the snipers to distinguish between the pirates and the hostage.

Shoot the ones with the guns. Guns do show up on IR.

re: #237 Occasional Reader

Do you recall a source for this? I’m not aware of any applicable treaty.

I was watching a documentary on the rise of piracy & the host asked a cargo ship captain “why don’t you just arm yourselves?” & that was his response.

re: #233 Kosh’s Shadow

If there was a sub with Seals on board, they could board the ship in the dark and take it over. The SDV (Swimmer Delivery Vehicle) is a small electric sub carried by the larger subs, and wouldn’t make the noise of a surface boat. For that matter, it would just have to stay submerged and release the Seals.

I was thinking about that. I wonder if they have such a vehicle on hand, though. (They should… it’s not like this was a big surprise.)

Holla at the aftrnoon open.

Here’s a short demo of the Stoner 63.

re: #190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

AFAIK, it is a violation of international law to carry weapons aboard a civilian ship such as this one. Which never stops the pirates for some reason.

Classic example of “when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns”.

re: #211 Shug

More like the Pirates of Penance……

re: #233 Kosh’s Shadow

If there was a sub with Seals on board, they could board the ship in the dark and take it over. The SDV (Swimmer Delivery Vehicle) is a small electric sub carried by the larger subs, and wouldn’t make the noise of a surface boat. For that matter, it would just have to stay submerged and release the Seals.

That would be waaaaaaay cool!

re: #185 smokefire

Attack group roll call

Steven Segal,
John Rambo
Chuck Norris
Gunny John Highway {Clint}

Steven Segal is a lefty wack job.

I think we should have Roger Moore and an elite team of frogmen with harpoon guns on stand by for these situations.

/someone out there gets this

I sincerely hope that someone browbeats the administration into allowing our military to act.

I thought that one of the reasons for having a navy in the first place was the suppression of piracy?

re: #243 redstateredneck

Holla at the aftrnoon open.

Hey rsrn. :)

re: #217 Dianna

I haven’t played with them.

You can tell who’s a pirate, because the “yarr!” exclamation gives off a distinctive heat signature.

re: #238 Ward Cleaver

Ospreys have aerial refueling capability (they flew four nonstop from Florida to Africa last November), and even the USAF have a special ops version.

I’ve seen a few here in ABQ and I’m kinda partial to them…pretty cool….hardly a standoff platform for a sniper out over open open tho

i bet o is pounding on a desk somewhere, crying, ‘why CAN’T i just vote present?’

re: #252 Occasional Reader

You can tell who’s a pirate, because the “yarr!” exclamation gives off a distinctive heat signature.

Also, there’s the small IR blob produced by the parrot on thes shoulder.

I am very tired of seeing photos of Obama’s face everywhere.

re: #5 Shug

Ginger, but on WKRP Bailey was much hotter than Jennifer.

re: #250 Dianna

I sincerely hope that someone browbeats the administration into allowing our military to act.

I thought that one of the reasons for having a navy in the first place was the suppression of piracy?

/ then whats next using an army to enforce a border? sheesh!