Just a pickling Saturday afternoon.

Traditions can be great.

re: #1 CynicalConservative

Just a pickling Saturday afternoon.

You’re getting pickled?

Good Afternoon Lizards!
Lousy day today but the weather for Sunday’s Brickyard 500 will be perfect..
Good racing weather!
How is everyone today?

re: #4 HoosierHoops

Good Afternoon Lizards!
Lousy day today but the weather for Sunday’s Brickyard 500 400 will be perfect..
Good racing weather!
How is everyone today?

Jeez

Open Thread: pour a drink.

re: #5 HoosierHoops

Jeez

Hey…close enough.

I have too much respect for the idea of God to make it responsible for such an absurd world. - Georges Duhamel

For this thread or the previous?

re: #4 HoosierHoops

Good Afternoon Lizards!
Lousy day today but the weather for Sunday’s Brickyard 500 will be perfect..
Good racing weather!
How is everyone today?

I’m a little annoyed. We don’t have cable and it’s on ESPN. Grrr…

Tradition!

re: #3 BignJames

You’re getting pickled?

Getting pickled while pickling.

Excellent, and open thread. Here’s a little tale that has been bugging me for about a month or so. For some reason Firefox was having conniptions with displaying pages and coding. I tried everything, installed the latest version, clearing the cache, the whole nine yards. Nothing. Even had problems loading LGF. Since no one else was complaining about it, I thought my computer was the issue. So I put it on the back burner and surfed the net with *shudder* IE8. Now that was an experience.

So today, I have free time, nothing planned. I sat down and started cleaning up my harddrive and unloading programs. Opened up FF and the problem is still there. So I start playing around with settings, unplugging plugins with no luck. Finally I check the encoding settings. Sure enough the problem has gone bye-bye. At last I can temporarily ditch Internut Exploder for a faster and better browser once again.

Morocco challenges Mideast Holocaust mind-set

From the western edge of the Muslim world, the King of Morocco has dared to tackle one of the most inflammatory issues in the Middle East conflict — the Holocaust.

At a time when Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s dismissal of the Holocaust has made the biggest headlines, King Mohammed VI has called the Nazi destruction of the Jews “one of the most tragic chapters of modern history,” and has endorsed a Paris-based program aimed at spreading the word among fellow Muslims.

re: #9 austin_blue

I’m a little annoyed. We don’t have cable and it’s on ESPN. Grrr…

It is your Right as an American to have ESPN!
This needs to go before the High court…

Funny watching Zero back-peddling on his “stupid” racist comment. He is way out of his league. He is a salesman who does not know what to do when he has already made the sale.

Here’s a hint: Now is the time for action.

Harry Patch, last British WWI soldier, dies at 111

Harry Patch, Britain’s last survivor of the trenches of World War I, was a reluctant soldier who became a powerful eyewitness to the horror of war, and a symbol of a lost generation.

Patch, who died Saturday at 111, was wounded in 1917 in the Battle of Passchendaele, which he remembered as “mud, mud and more mud mixed together with blood.”

This follows by just a week or so the death of Harry Allingham, the world’s oldest man and also a World War I veteran. Mr. Allingham was 113.

There has been serious discussion for several years of a full state funeral for whomever turned out to be the last British veteran of the Great War, something normally reserved for reigning monarchs and the most important statesmen. I think they should do that.

re: #10 jcm

I loved that movie.

This has to be seen to be believed. One of my fellow Californians speaking at the Santa Cruz City Council. No wonder CA is in its current state.

Sometimes I think Charles puts up threads like the previous just so that we can blow off steam after days like we’ve had recently. Not like this place isn’t normally steaming like a corner laundry.

Iran accused of ‘Zionist’ tactics

Oh, the irony!

re: #15 Racer X

Funny watching Zero back-peddling on his “stupid” racist comment. He is way out of his league. He is a salesman who does not know what to do when he has already made the sale.

Here’s a hint: Now is the time for action.

It struck me as an automatic response that came right out of twenty years in Wright’s church.

John Cleese - Wine for the Confused

re: #13 Sharmuta

Wow…he’s put his life in danger.

re: #12 BlueCanuck

Excellent, and open thread. Here’s a little tale that has been bugging me for about a month or so. For some reason Firefox was having conniptions with displaying pages and coding. I tried everything, installed the latest version, clearing the cache, the whole nine yards. Nothing. Even had problems loading LGF. Since no one else was complaining about it, I thought my computer was the issue. So I put it on the back burner and surfed the net with *shudder* IE8. Now that was an experience.

So today, I have free time, nothing planned. I sat down and started cleaning up my harddrive and unloading programs. Opened up FF and the problem is still there. So I start playing around with settings, unplugging plugins with no luck. Finally I check the encoding settings. Sure enough the problem has gone bye-bye. At last I can temporarily ditch Internut Exploder for a faster and better browser once again.

WHat did you do, I’m having a similar problem

re: #14 HoosierHoops

It is your Right as an American to have ESPN!
This needs to go before the High court…

Well Hoops, this is just what the President is talking about, some have ESPN & some don’t. It’s not fair.
We need reform where we all take a number & wait in line for ESPN.

re: #13 Sharmuta

Morocco challenges Mideast Holocaust mind-set

Though Moroccan officials say the timing is coincidental, the Holocaust speech came at around the same time that Morocco severed diplomatic relations with Iran, claiming it was infiltrating Shiite Muslim troublemakers into this Sunni nation.

I didn’t realize they’d done that. Good!

re: #9 austin_blue

I’m a little annoyed. We don’t have cable and it’s on ESPN. Grrr…

Cable reform bill, affordable cable for everyone!

IT’S A CRISIS!

re: #1 CynicalConservative

Just a pickling Saturday afternoon.

And what are we drinking today?

re: #25 opnion

Well Hoops, this is just what the President is talking about, some have ESPN & some don’t. It’s not fair.
We need reform where we all take a number & wait in line for ESPN.

LOL
you betcha! The Hoopster vs. The United States
A case to determine if all Americans have the right to ESPN…Holder is arguing for the people…
/hope you are well

re: #21 debutaunt

It struck me as an automatic response that came right out of twenty years in Wright’s church.

Exactly!

re: #28 calcajun

And what are we drinking today?

Moose Drool

re: #13 Sharmuta

Well, he just hung a target on himself. But, good on you, Your Highness.

Jews have lived in Morocco for 2,000 years. Their numbers swelled after they were expelled from Spain in 1492, and reached 300,000 before World War II, when yet more fled the German occupation and found refuge in Morocco, then a French colony.

Today they number just 3,000, most having emigrated to France, North America or Israel, but they are free to come back to explore their roots, pray at their ancestors’ graves and even settle here.

Simon Levy heads the Jewish Museum in Casablanca, a treasure trove of old Torah scrolls, garments and jewelry illustrating the rich culture of Moroccan Jewry.

“That I still run the only Jewish museum in the Arab world is telling,” he said.

Andre Azoulay, a top adviser to the current king, is Jewish and one of six members of the king’s council in a monarchy that oversees all major decisions. Considered one of Morocco’s most powerful men, he views his country as “a unique case” for the intensity of its Jewish-Muslim relations. “We don’t mix up Judaism and the tragedy of the Middle East,” he told The Associated Press in an interview.

I wish Morocco well with this initiative. It has to start somewhere, and I’m glad to see it’s been taken up.

re: #21 debutaunt

That’s the 800 lb gorilla everyone’s been ignoring.

re: #19 haakondahl

Sometimes I think Charles puts up threads like the previous just so that we can blow off steam after days like we’ve had recently. Not like this place isn’t normally steaming like a corner laundry.

Yeah baby, there have been some real dust ups over real controversial issues & some not so much.
We even had one over Chicago style pizza vs New York Pizza.
It should be obvious that if you can fold it, it’s not pizza, it’s a sandwich. I mean, Chicago wins.

re: #24 Mithrax

WHat did you do, I’m having a similar problem

go into view and select character encoding. It should be a western ISO. Also check your customize list to see if anything else is loaded up into it and remove all but the western ISO

re: #28 calcajun

And what are we drinking today?

Bud light…It’s race weekend

re: #36 BlueCanuck

go into view and select character encoding. It should be a western ISO. Also check your customize list to see if anything else is loaded up into it and remove all but the western ISO

Thanks. Giving it a shot now.

re: #21 debutaunt

It struck me as an automatic response that came right out of twenty years in Wright’s church.

The mask slipped…

re: #37 HoosierHoops

I am so sensitive after the past two days that I had to read your twice, thinking there might be some hidden meaning.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and a beer is a drink.

Sigh.

re: #36 BlueCanuck

go into view and select character encoding. It should be a western ISO. Also check your customize list to see if anything else is loaded up into it and remove all but the western ISO

Holy crap. Major, marked improvement. You sir, can have my babies!

re: #13 Sharmuta

It’s a ray of light but of course farter down in the article while acknowledging it happened (which is better than dinner jacket) a Gaza leader had to compare systematic incineration with their own self-inflicted situation.

Did the Nazis take 60 years to kill 6 million jews? If theirs is comparable then why are there more Palestinian “holocaust” victims now than when this supposed “holocaust” started? It’s not because the Israelis do not have the know-how or ability.

re: #36 BlueCanuck

go into view and select character encoding. It should be a western ISO. Also check your customize list to see if anything else is loaded up into it and remove all but the western ISO

RACIST!

You need the diversity!

///

Obama: ‘Victory’ Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

“I’m always worried about using the word ‘victory,’ because, you know, it invokes this notion of Emperor Hirohito coming down and signing a surrender to MacArthur,” Obama told ABC News.

/student of history or defeatist moron?

In before #100.

re: #40 calcajun

I am so sensitive after the past two days that I had to read your twice, thinking there might be some hidden meaning.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and a beer is a drink.

Sigh.

…and a sigh is just a sigh…

re: #42 dwells38

…FARTHER down…

ARgh I hate that!

re: #44 Killian Bundy

He did not say that, did he? Give this man a history book, please.

re: #46 debutaunt

The fundamental things apply…

re: #29 HoosierHoops

LOL
you betcha! The Hoopster vs. The United States
A case to determine if all Americans have the right to ESPN…Holder is arguing for the people…
/hope you are well

Doing well & I hope that you are as well.
One other thing, if one household has bad ESPN reception , then the government should foul up everybodys signal.

re: #49 calcajun

The fundamental things apply…

I’m a song lyric junky.

re: #49 calcajun

The fundamental things apply…

As time goes by

re: #50 opnion

Doing well & I hope that you are as well.
One other thing, if one household has bad ESPN reception , then the government should foul up everybodys signal.

Spread the cable around!

What about us poor shulbs who still have wabbit ears!

re: #44 Killian Bundy

Obama: ‘Victory’ Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

/student of history or defeatist moron?

Hmmm, let me think

re: #41 Mithrax

Holy crap. Major, marked improvement. You sir, can have my babies!

Now that would be one for the science text books sir. :)

re: #53 jcm

Spread the cable around!

What about us poor shulbs who still have wabbit ears!

Whaaat! When the Dear Leader finds out , we will all be rquired to use rabbit ears. Not the White House of course

re: #53 jcm

Spread the cable around!

What about us poor shulbs who still have wabbit ears!

Do you know who invented rabbit ears?

Why, oh why must the pharmacy always be so damn busy!!! Dont they know I need my blogging/lurking time?

re: #51 debutaunt

re: #52 Kosh’s Shadow

We’re not alone, it seems— being lyric junkies, that is.

re: #57 BignJames

Do you know who invented rabbit ears?

_{I’m afraid to ask but here it goes}

Okay, who invented rabbit ears?

Yes, and I know how to do an internet search.

re: #12 BlueCanuck

Excellent, and open thread. Here’s a little tale that has been bugging me for about a month or so. For some reason Firefox was having conniptions with displaying pages and coding. I tried everything, installed the latest version, clearing the cache, the whole nine yards. Nothing. Even had problems loading LGF. Since no one else was complaining about it, I thought my computer was the issue. So I put it on the back burner and surfed the net with *shudder* IE8. Now that was an experience.

So today, I have free time, nothing planned. I sat down and started cleaning up my harddrive and unloading programs. Opened up FF and the problem is still there. So I start playing around with settings, unplugging plugins with no luck. Finally I check the encoding settings. Sure enough the problem has gone bye-bye. At last I can temporarily ditch Internut Exploder for a faster and better browser once again.

So tell us what you changed, that’s hit me on rare occasions as well

re: #59 calcajun

re: #52 Kosh’s Shadow

We’re not alone, it seems— being lyric junkies, that is.

Count me in…Love the words and music

re: #48 calcajun

He did not say that, did he? Give this man a history book, please.

How about when BHO talked about the evil doctor pulling out your kids tosils , when he just had a sore throat?

re: #60 jcm

_{I’m afraid to ask but here it goes}

Okay, who invented rabbit ears?

How does a sorority girl hold her oh, never mind.

re: #53 jcm

Spread the cable around!

What about us poor shulbs who still have wabbit ears!

Interesting note on the digital TV conversion.

The digital signal does not carry as far as did the analog signal. So those on the edge of the old signal now do not get television at all, without going to cable or satellite.

My brother went from getting eight channels to getting one.

re: #60 jcm

_{I’m afraid to ask but here it goes}

Okay, who invented rabbit ears?

Marvin Middlemark Invents TV Rabbit Ears

This is a pretty cool depiction of what’s on TV in the universe.

re: #64 opnion

How about when BHO talked about the evil doctor pulling out your kids tosils , when he just had a sore throat?

Huh?

re: #44 Killian Bundy

Oh I see. We are in a War on Terror after all. We just don’t want to win it because of the negative imperial imagery it carries. Although ironically the example he gives (that he wants to avoid) is our defeating an emporer in a just war of defense.

How exactly does this nuanced position translate to our guys getting their asses shot off I wonder?

re: #64 opnion

How about when BHO talked about the evil doctor pulling out your kids tosils , when he just had a sore throat?

TONSILS

re: #60 jcm

_{I’m afraid to ask but here it goes}

Okay, who invented rabbit ears?

Karsten Solheim…the developer of “Ping” golf clubs…ok…trivia lesson over…I’m just a font of useless information.

re: #44 Killian Bundy

Obama: ‘Victory’ Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

/student of history or defeatist moron?

Don’t you know anything!? It was on the aircraft carrier Missouri!

/ Al Gore.

re: #72 BignJames

Karsten Solheim…the developer of “Ping” golf clubs…ok…trivia lesson over…I’m just a font of useless information.

Are you kidding? Ping makes the best clubs!
I did not know that

re: #64 opnion

How about when BHO talked about the evil doctor pulling out your kids tosils , when he just had a sore throat?

/or stupid police, guy’s on a roll Bush would envy

re: #66 razorbacker

Interesting note on the digital TV conversion.

The digital signal does not carry as far as did the analog signal. So those on the edge of the old signal now do not get television at all, without going to cable or satellite.

My brother went from getting eight channels to getting one.

I believe some of the new HD antennas come with signal boosters to get around that. I think mine cost about $50.00. I love that I get full Dolby 5.1 with the signal now.

re: #69 MandyManners

Huh?

Mandy, he did that during his Healthcare reform press conference.
He used that as an example of a doctor scamming for higher reimbursement.
That was before he made his contribution to better race relations.

re: #74 HoosierHoops

Are you kidding? Ping makes the best clubs!
I did not know that

Yep…I’m a Ping player myself…irons and putter.

HH,

try atdhe.net. they do free live sports

re: #65 MandyManners

…and just when I think it’s OK for my 15 year-old son to look on here and see what we talk about…

re: #77 opnion

Mandy, he did that during his Healthcare reform press conference.
He used that as an example of a doctor scamming for higher reimbursement.
That was before he made his contribution to better race relations.

He actually said a doctor would force a patient to undergo unneccessary surgery??

re: #80 calcajun

eeep

re: #28 calcajun

And what are we drinking today?

Local (portland) pinot nior

re: #75 Killian Bundy

/or stupid police, guy’s on a roll Bush would envy

Ya know as inappropriate as his comments were about the Cambridge Police , it did take the focus away from his incoherent answers on health reform.

re: #70 dwells38

How exactly does this nuanced position translate to our guys getting their asses shot off I wonder?

That’s an excellent question.

/he’s obviously looking for the exit door, just hasn’t decided on how many more American lives to sacrifice before finally pulling the plug

Jeez. Already 100 at 2:00. She Who Must be Obeyed and I are going off to see the new Potter flick at the Alamo Drafthouse South. Good food, good beer, no screaming children.

BBIAB.

re: #83 CynicalConservative

Yum.

re: #81 MandyManners

He actually said a doctor would force a patient to undergo unneccessary surgery??

Absolutely.

re: #81 MandyManners

He actually said a doctor would force a patient to undergo unneccessary surgery??

For profit…

re: #89 jcm

For profit…

/tonsils for money …

re: #81 MandyManners

He actually said a doctor would force a patient to undergo unneccessary surgery??

He said that the doctor would look at the fee schedules and since a tonsillectomy has a reimbursement rate would opt for that to make more of a profit.

Oh, and never mind that 9 times out of 10 it’s going to be the primary care physician that makes the recommendation and someone else that would perform the surgery (and get the profit).

Let’s demonize the doctors…yeah, that’s a good idea.

re: #81 MandyManners

He actually said a doctor would force a patient to undergo unneccessary surgery??

re: #89 jcm

For profit…

Well, he does have a law degree…sorry Killian.

re: #91 Pianobuff

He said that the doctor would look at the fee schedules and since a tonsillectomy has a higher reimbursement rate would opt for that to make more of a profit.

Oh, and never mind that 9 times out of 10 it’s going to be the primary care physician that makes the recommendation and someone else that would perform the surgery (and get the profit).

Let’s demonize the doctors…yeah, that’s a good idea.

See bold for what I meant to say.

re: #90 Killian Bundy

/tonsils for money …

And get your chicks for free…

re: #68 Pianobuff

That’s pretty cool!

re: #89 jcm

For profit…

Those darned doctors need to be taught a nice socialistic lesson, but first, someone come up with a crazy-assed exaggeration.

re: #88 opnion

Absolutely.

re: #89 jcm

For profit…

Why didn’t the AMA go bat-shit crazy on his sorry ass?

Anyone watch Torchwood on BBC America last night? Sci Fi 5 part miniseries. I missed episodes 1 and 2 but they are repeating all episodes on Sunday. BBC does a much better job with original sci fi than the SyFy channel.

re: #91 Pianobuff

He said that the doctor would look at the fee schedules and since a tonsillectomy has a reimbursement rate would opt for that to make more of a profit.

Oh, and never mind that 9 times out of 10 it’s going to be the primary care physician that makes the recommendation and someone else that would perform the surgery (and get the profit).

Let’s demonize the doctors…yeah, that’s a good idea.

If I were a surgeon I’d be tempted to send him the next pair of tonsils I removed.

re: #62 Thanos

See my reply to Mithrax here

re: #36 BlueCanuck

re: #91 Pianobuff

He said that the doctor would look at the fee schedules and since a tonsillectomy has a reimbursement rate would opt for that to make more of a profit.

Oh, and never mind that 9 times out of 10 it’s going to be the primary care physician that makes the recommendation and someone else that would perform the surgery (and get the profit).

Let’s demonize the doctors…yeah, that’s a good idea.

Exactly, the PC refers for surgery.
The only way that his example works at all, is if you took your kid to a surgeon for a sore throat.

re: #91 Pianobuff

Let’s demonize the doctors…yeah, that’s a good idea.

Well who do you suggest we demonize?

re: #99 snowcrash

I think it went into a couple of seasons as well. Friends of mine were hooked on it and would get together Friday nights to watch the new Doctor Who and Torchwood. That was last year, so I don’t know if it’s still in production or not.

re: #92 jcm

Youtube Video

He is the sorriest excuse of human being.

re: #98 MandyManners

Why didn’t the AMA go bat-shit crazy on his sorry ass?

Just a guess, but the AMA is either too intimidated or the decision makers have something to gain by going along with this (or both). Your call.

re: #98 MandyManners

Why didn’t the AMA go bat-shit crazy on his sorry ass?

They do need to issue a statement. Barry seems to think that they are all Doctor Mengele..(sp)

re: #45 The Curmudgeon

In before #100.

But only once. Slacker.

Nice blog you have there. I’ll never have time to read it all.

re: #103 BigPapa

Well who do you suggest we demonize?

I wasn’t suggesting anyone be demonized.

re: #98 MandyManners

Why didn’t the AMA go bat-shit crazy on his sorry ass?

AMA BACKS HOUSE HEALTH-CARE BILL

I think the AMA is hoping o will up the reimbursements for Medicare/Medicaid.

re: #109 Pianobuff

I wasn’t suggesting anyone be demonized.

C’mon. I have my picket signs all made up and just need to add the name.

re: #111 J.D.

I think the AMA is hoping o will up the reimbursements for Medicare/Medicaid.

We have a doctor shortage now, especially PC’s.
If we get Obamacare there will be a lot less med students.

re: #13 Sharmuta

Morocco challenges Mideast Holocaust mind-set

Way to go. I love Moroccan food, and now I’m having very kind thoughts about their leadership.

He is actually saying that a doctor would subject a child to the dangers of anesthesia and infection just to make more money?

That says a lot about him.

See ya fun seekeers, the dog is sneering at me. I think that he wants a walk.

re: #110 jcm

AMA BACKS HOUSE HEALTH-CARE BILL

Oh, I knew that. I just am stunned that the AMA would not at least issue a press release or something.

re: #109 Pianobuff

I wasn’t suggesting anyone be demonized.

It’s really not a good tactic anyways. I think it’s a tactic better left to the intellectually dishonest and fringe.

re: #109 Pianobuff

I wasn’t suggesting anyone be demonized.

I was being sarcy, sorry. I’m comedically narcissistic: I think everybody understands when I’m sarc.

So now that you know I’m being a smart azz: WHO DO YOU SUGGEST WE DEMONIZE!!!

re: #47 dwells38

No, that was great!

re: #117 MandyManners

Oh, I knew that. I just am stunned that the AMA would not at least issue a press release or something.

You mean act like the Cambridge PD?

Since we’re talking about healthcare, I’ll throw a top-of-mind prediction out there…

If Obamacare passes with a public plan, the next public health emergency we’ll hear about is “not enough doctors”. Assuming Obama has some level of popularity, he will use this crisis to make a case for some sort of government education of up and coming doctors. The doctors, in exchange for a free education, will be government serfs, essentially in the employ of the U.S.A. for 10, 20, 30…who knows how many years.

Cradle-to-grave co-dependency if you will…

I hope I’m wrong about this, so feel free to fire away.

obama the simpleton…

re: #119 BigPapa

I was being sarcy, sorry. I’m comedically narcissistic: I think everybody understands when I’m sarc.

So now that you know I’m being a smart azz: WHO DO YOU SUGGEST WE DEMONIZE!!!

Missed the sarc, but got it now. LOL.

My flabber is gasted.

re: #120 swamprat

No, that was great!

Ding ‘im then.

re: #103 BigPapa

See previous thread.

re: #93 BignJames

Well, he does have a law degree…sorry Killian.

Hey, some of us are offended that he does. It is still very odd for me that he was editor of the Harvard Law Review and never published an article.

re: #99 snowcrash

Anyone watch Torchwood on BBC America last night? Sci Fi 5 part miniseries. I missed episodes 1 and 2 but they are repeating all episodes on Sunday. BBC does a much better job with original sci fi than the SyFy channel.

The whole SyFy for Gen y re-branding is going to be annoying. Look for their new shows to have a bunch of 20 year olds playing roles and positions that in real life would be filled with 30 and 40 year olds. The new Stargate series will have a 26 year-old playing a master sergeant. Watching this channel in the future is going to make me feel old.

re: #125 MandyManners

My flabber is gasted.

Better get that treated while you can!

re: #113 opnion

We have a doctor shortage now, especially PC’s.
If we get Obamacare there will be a lot less med students.

Oh! I think the AMA is kidding themselves. There are A LOT of medical groups that aren’t inclined the way the AMA claims to be.

I have a son that just finished med school and has just started his 7-year residency that precedes the fellowship he will do in year 8. Oh, and they can work him 84 hours/wk. for less than $45,000/yr. Then there’s the money he owes for med school tuition, and Krauthammer says he would be paying $200,000/yr. in medical malpractice insurance if he was in private practice today. His mentor (L.A. pediatric neurosurgeon) says he pays $250,000/yr.

Not to mention it is a long hard road.

re: #129 horse

The whole SyFy for Gen y re-branding is going to be annoying. Look for their new shows to have a bunch of 20 year olds playing roles and positions that in real life would be filled with 30 and 40 year olds. The new Stargate series will have a 26 year-old playing a master sergeant. Watching this channel in the future is going to make me feel old.

It’ll always be Skiffy to me.

re: #108 wrenchwench

Nice blog you have there. I’ll never have time to read it all.

Thanks. I really don’t have time to read it either.

re: #130 calcajun

Better get that treated while you can!

Be careful that the doc doesn’t remove something more expensive.

re: #117 MandyManners

Oh, I knew that. I just am stunned that the AMA would not at least issue a press release or something.

AMA backing this load of crap shouldn’t surprise me, but it does. They went left a long time ago.

re: #122 Pianobuff

I believe it already exists.

re: #120 swamprat

You mean great as in a whole lot funnier in the first version, right?

I’m researching anti-intellectualism, and I’m wondering if anyone has any good links or names they could share.

Thanks.

re: #103 BigPapa

Well who do you suggest we demonize?

Since they will eliminate the insurance companies, the only people left with some degree of independent power and influence are the doctors, so the docs must be brought down to toe the government’s line. It’s all about centralizing power in the federal government; no other power centers will be tolerated.

Marvin P. Middlemark invented the Rabbit Ears television Antenna in 1956 in Rego Park, Queens, New York.

…The AMA’s endorsement seems to have been purchased not with principle, but with money — a promise by Democrat supporters of HR 3200 (”America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009″) to make the formula according to which doctors are reimbursed for performing procedures for Medicare patients, more favorable to the doctors. Rather than fight on the merits to improve the Medicare reimbursement system, even as they should be opposing the many other provisions of this legislation that injects massive doses of government control into the practice of medicine in the U.S., AMA’s leaders decided to sell out their members, and take the promise of a little money and run. …

American Medical Association Commits Malpractice

re: #131 J.D.

So why would anybody be a doctor any more? According to Obama they’re just greedy.

re: #136 J.D.

I believe it already exists.

I’m not sure we’re quite yet in a crisis stage, but many expect there to be one shortly or at least in the next 10 years. My comments were less about trends in doctor numbers and more about “not letting a good crisis go to waste” as Rahm likes to say.

re: #126 callahan23

Leave it to me to get updinged only when my post becomes an inadvertant fart joke. Oh well I’ll take whatever I can get :)

re: #107 opnion

They do need to issue a statement. Barry seems to think that they are all Doctor Mengele..(sp)

I’m having a little trouble following this story; my understanding of it is that the fraudulent reimbursements being discussed (tonsilectomy versus appropriate, cheaper treatment) were perpetrated against an insurance company.

If so, I’ll point out that insurance companies spend a great deal of effort tracking down fraud, and have an extremely good motive for doing so: profit. There’s no doubt that medical fraud takes place. But so does the battle against it.

Does 0 think that such fraud won’t occur when such programs are run by the government? How did he arrive at that conclusion? How do medical fraud rates against programs already run by the government - VA medical services, Medicare, Medicaid, for example - compare to similar frauds perpetrated against private insurers? I’d be willing to bet that the private sector rate is considerably lower.

Also, does 0 propose to completely eliminate such fraud? How? What justification does he offer to support such a proposal?

Who is he aiming this shit at, anyway?

re: #122 Pianobuff

Someone - americanthinker maybe - had a story up the other day about the current bill being hustled carrying language for med school education to ‘underrepresented minorities’.

Not loans, mind you, grants. They don’t get paid back.

re: #143 Pianobuff

I’m not sure we’re quite yet in a crisis stage, but many expect there to be one shortly or at least in the next 10 years. My comments were less about trends in doctor numbers and more about “not letting a good crisis go to waste” as Rahm likes to say.

/let’s spend a lot of money we don’t have!

re: #146 wahabicorridor

Someone - americanthinker maybe - had a story up the other day about the current bill being hustled carrying language for med school education to ‘underrepresented minorities’.

Not loans, mind you, grants. They don’t get paid back.

Interesting. Guess I’m two beats behind. I’ll try to find this later today. Thanks.

re: #142 BigPapa

So why would anybody be a doctor any more? According to Obama they’re just greedy.

Well, my son wants to try to help improve the lives of children who need a neurosurgeon.

That’s all. Honest.

We all saw what Obama is really made of just a couple of days ago.
He’s got a lot to learn. If only he would shut up.

re: #44 Killian Bundy

Obama: ‘Victory’ Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

/student of history or defeatist moron?

The most intelligent President we’ve ever had.

/

re: #149 J.D.

We all saw what Obama is really made of just a couple of days ago.
He’s got a lot to learn. If only he would shut up.

But he won. Why should he?

re: #138 Sharmuta

I’m researching anti-intellectualism, and I’m wondering if anyone has any good links or names they could share.
Thanks.

Not really of individuals but of a whole nation on the example of Germany. Technophobia at it’s worst.
A neat article by Newsweek on ‘Germany’s Technophobia is holding it back’.

re: #149 J.D.

Well, my son wants to try to help improve the lives of children who need a neurosurgeon.

That’s all. Honest.

We all saw what Obama is really made of just a couple of days ago.
He’s got a lot to learn. If only he would shut up.

The government should not be deciding how much he should be paid.

re: #149 J.D.

give your son a hug for me. I’ve had three operations on my brain. The things those docs do are just friggin’ amazing. My doc saved my life. 3 times.

re: #99 snowcrash

Anyone watch Torchwood on BBC America last night? Sci Fi 5 part miniseries. I missed episodes 1 and 2 but they are repeating all episodes on Sunday. BBC does a much better job with original sci fi than the SyFy channel.

Good to know. I missed the announcement of the original broadcast; I’ll put this on the recorder.

Torchwood has gotten tremendous buzz in England. It’s a spinoff of the newly revived Doctor Who series.

Note that the main character is openly bisexual, if such things matter to anyone.

re: #143 Pianobuff

Well, of course you can join the armed forces and they will fund you, or you can commit to working in an area where they have a shortage of doctors and they will fund that, usually family doctors.

re: #142 BigPapa

So why would anybody be a doctor any more? According to Obama they’re just greedy.

1st chapter of Goldwater’s Conscience of a Conservative. Liberals only consider the material, not the in-material / spiritual. They don’t consider a person’s calling or desires what they’d like to do in the equation.

I was a firefighter, on the surface, the risk to cost ratio is insane, but ask a firefighter, its the greatest job in the world, and has nothing to do with financial compensation.

re: #151 BlueCanuck

I think there’s a proverb out there that says “a fool is perceived wise when he keeps his mouth shut”.

re: #151 BlueCanuck

But he won. Why should he?

Well it can’t have been a “teachable” moment if he doesn’t shut up long enough to listen and learn.

re: #157 jcm

1st chapter of Goldwater’s Conscience of a Conservative. Liberals only consider the material, not the in-material / spiritual. They don’t consider a person’s calling or desires what they’d like to do in the equation.

I was a firefighter, on the surface, the risk to cost ratio is insane, but ask a firefighter, its the greatest job in the world, and has nothing to do with financial compensation.

That must be a big reason for volunteer fire departments. I grew up in a small town with excellent all volunteer coverage.

Well… Gates has agreed to have a beer with Obama/Crowley

AFAIK, no word from Crowley yet.

What kind of beer will they have? “Hops and Change”?

re: #48 calcajun

He did not say that, did he? Give this man a history book, please.

Hell, he can watch the whole thing on youtube.

re: #158 dapperdave

I like “Better to remain silent and be presumed a fool than to open your mouth and remove all certainty”. Or something like that.

re: #158 dapperdave

I think there’s a proverb out there that says “a fool is perceived wise when he keeps his mouth shut”.

I was told by my Grandmother, “Their is a reason God gave you two ears and only one mouth, you should listen twice as much as you talk.

re: #159 J.D.

Well it can’t have been a “teachable” moment if he doesn’t shut up long enough to listen and learn.

Unfortunately he thinks he’s the teacher not the student. Doubt much will change. Just watch as he slowly alienates his entire base by such foolish endeavours.

re: #163 dwells38

Remove all doubt that is.

OK screwing up every other post means I’m supposed to go do something productive now.

re: #152 callahan23

Not really of individuals but of a whole nation on the example of Germany. Technophobia at it’s worst.
A neat article by Newsweek on ‘Germany’s Technophobia is holding it back’.

Thanks! I was just reading a piece about anti-intellectualism on both the left and the right. The author focused a bit more on the right, but did mention PETA and some environmentalists, so that’s very interesting to see the extent left-wing anti-intellectualism is having somewhere. (I would include anti-vaxers, but that seems to be a bi-partisan effort).

re: #156 J.D.

Well, of course you can join the armed forces and they will fund you, or you can commit to working in an area where they have a shortage of doctors and they will fund that, usually family doctors.

True that is, although I tend to look at military service a little bit differently from most other lines of work, don’t you?

Vis a vis your second point, if it is deemed that there is a shortage of doctors everywhere what would that portend?

re: #158 dapperdave

re: #163 dwells38

re: #164 n in wi

It seems Obama is going against the grain on these, he’ll learn.

The AMA and the ABA do not represent anywhere near ALL doctors and lawyers, but the narrative says they do.

Oooh, GOOD one

Dalrymple on

A Modern Witch Trial
Racism: the charge against which there is no defense

But the Lawrence murder took on a wide social significance because of its racial overtones. The botched investigation became a cause célèbre—the presumption being that racism alone could explain the police’s failure to bring the perpetrators to justice—
[ ]
This year, on the tenth anniversary of the report, the press and professional criminologists are celebrating it for, as one put it, bringing about a “paradigm shift” in the sensitivities of British police about “diversity”—police now think about race all the time, it seems. The report’s real effect, however, was to demoralize further an already demoralized police force, which, immediately after the report appeared, retreated from stopping or searching people behaving suspiciously and watched street robberies increase 50 percent.

Thanks Obama, you flaming asshole

re: #153 debutaunt

The government should not be deciding how much he should be paid.

He doesn’t want to be paid with a government check, that is for sure!

re: #170 Taqyia2Me

The AMA and the ABA do not represent anywhere near ALL doctors and lawyers, but the narrative says they do.

I thought I heard that only 17% of Doctors belong to the AMA. Is that about right?

re: #18 Pianobuff

Santa Cruz? Figures. I have a feeling that young lady took some immense bong hits before delivering that utterly incoherent spiel.

CBO deals new blow to health plan

But on Saturday, the Congressional Budget Office said the proposal to give an independent panel the power to keep Medicare spending in check would only save about $2 billion over 10 years- a drop in the bucket compared to the bill’s $1 trillion price tag.

/but hey, look at the bright side, you get to wait longer for lower quality care

re: #138 Sharmuta

I’m researching anti-intellectualism, and I’m wondering if anyone has any good links or names they could share.

Thanks.

I don’t know if this is quite what you’re looking for, but it’s a beautifully written critique of the environmental movement, with a dissection of its quasi-religious overtones.
In a Dark Wood

re: #170 Taqyia2Me

The AMA and the ABA do not represent anywhere near ALL doctors and lawyers, but the narrative says they do.

/I shredded my ABA card a couple years ago

re: #167 Sharmuta

Thanks! I was just reading a piece about anti-intellectualism on both the left and the right. The author focused a bit more on the right, but did mention PETA and some environmentalists, so that’s very interesting to see the extent left-wing anti-intellectualism is having somewhere. (I would include anti-vaxers, but that seems to be a bi-partisan effort).

Just a personal note: I must acknowledge the ‘fact’ that some of my, particularly elderly pupils won’t attend my computer classes as they are “allergic” to computers and their “rays”. I teach immigrants integrating into the job-market, btw.
That is ‘old Europe’ for y’all.

re: #137 dwells38

yes

re: #173 n in wi

I thought I heard that only 17% of Doctors belong to the AMA. Is that about right?

I think so…I have not found the link to that info…

re: #26 Sharmuta

I didn’t realize they’d done that. Good!

Meanwhile, Morocco enforces a law punishing anyone trying to convert a Muslim with five years in jail.

[Link: riadzany.blogspot.com…]

Morocco’s Secretary of State. ABBAS EL FASSI: Islam gives freedom to other religions to practice. But we do not accept other religions coming here to try to convert Muslims.

Business as usual…

re: #154 wahabicorridor

give your son a hug for me. I’ve had three operations on my brain. The things those docs do are just friggin’ amazing. My doc saved my life. 3 times.

Wow! That is fabulous!
I will give him a hug for you. Try to keep him encouraged!
He’s suggested I read When the Air Hits Your Brain: Tales from Neurosurgery. Which reminds me I need to order it.

re: #117 MandyManners

Oh, I knew that. I just am stunned that the AMA would not at least issue a press release or something.

They welcome their new government overlords.

re: #161 Pianobuff

Well… Gates has agreed to have a beer with Obama/Crowley

AFAIK, no word from Crowley yet.

What kind of beer will they have? “Hops and Change”?

As reported in the article you linked to, Crowley suggested this idea.

re: #176 JHW

re: #178 callahan23

Thank you.

It’s an interesting topic. Anti-intellectualism seems to have many allies from across the political spectrum, which makes sense because the uneducated are easier to manipulate.

re: #184 JustMyView

As reported in the article you linked to, Crowley suggested this idea.

Beer? Seems more like a wine person.

/favorite wine;

I am being oppressed!

re: #184 JustMyView

As reported in the article you linked to, Crowley suggested this idea.

Salud, Sarge!

re: #122 Pianobuff

Since we’re talking about healthcare, I’ll throw a top-of-mind prediction out there…

If Obamacare passes with a public plan, the next public health emergency we’ll hear about is “not enough doctors”. Assuming Obama has some level of popularity, he will use this crisis to make a case for some sort of government education of up and coming doctors. The doctors, in exchange for a free education, will be government serfs, essentially in the employ of the U.S.A. for 10, 20, 30…who knows how many years.

Cradle-to-grave co-dependency if you will…

I hope I’m wrong about this, so feel free to fire away.

You. Are. TELEPATHIC!

Beck stated in his weekend edition that, hidden in the Health Care Reform Bill (Ocare), is the statement that preference for Medical Education funding will go to teaching hospitals that have shown preference for enrolling minorities, servicing underpriviledged areas and groups, and show diversity.

re: #184 JustMyView

As reported in the article you linked to, Crowley suggested this idea.

True. I should have been clearer about that. Meant to indicate that I’ve heard of no remarks from Crowley on Gate’s acceptance.

re: #165 BlueCanuck

Unfortunately he thinks he’s the teacher not the student. Doubt much will change. Just watch as he slowly alienates his entire base by such foolish endeavours.

Yes.
We shouldn’t have taken him to raise.

A Gatesgate At Henry Gates’ “Bogus” Charity?

/the sniffing has started

re: #191 Killian Bundy

A Gatesgate At Henry Gates’ “Bogus” Charity?

/the sniffing has started

Very interesting. I’ll be curious to see if this develops into something bigger.

re: #149 J.D.

We all saw what Obama is really made of just a couple of days ago.
He’s got a lot to learn. If only he would shut up.

NO! Keep him talking! Right up to the November 2010 Congressional Elections!!
/”Redistribute that Intellectual Wealth”

re: #152 callahan23

Not really of individuals but of a whole nation on the example of Germany. Technophobia at it’s worst.
A neat article by Newsweek on ‘Germany’s Technophobia is holding it back’.

Good afternoon, Lizards.

Interesting article. A few points caught my eye.

1. The whole “Back-to-Nature” shtick was a preoccupation of He Who Shall Not Be Named For Fear Of Godwin’s Law, as well. In fact, “pre-Christian Pan-Germanism”, based on Nietzsche and Hegel, was all about the rejection of “modernity”, including technology; neither of them was a big fan of the Industrial Revolution. I’m wondering how many of the young, hip, “progressive” activists over there realize this. (My estimate is, none, as the accurate study of history seems to be as “out of style” there as it is here.)

2. The damage the Max Planck Institute’s test fields for genetically-modified plants have suffered from “activists” is eco-terrorism, pure and simple. I notice the news media in Europe and elsewhere is conspicuously silent about this.

3. The fellow from the Allensbach Institute who thinks that he can enlist the “Greens” by capitalizing on their infatuation with Wind & Sun is making the same error Margaret Thatcher did in the UK, when she thought she could co-opt them into her campaign for nuclear power by agreeing with them on the need to get rid of coal-fired energy. They took her support- and then turned on her to campaign against nuclear power, instead. The Greens, in any nation, are absolutists; there is only one “right” way, to them, and that’s a return to the caves.

4. Germany may be the only country to openly outlaw nuclear power, but the United States has done so by indirect means, by methods that have survived no less than three pro-nuclear administrations (Reagan, Bush I & II), and a 12-year GOP majority in the Congress. Simply put, the Sierra Club, etc., have too many influential people on their speed dial, and know how to work the system, including the courts. This “energy bill” (aka “Cap N’ Tax”) will I suspect embed the “no nukes, nowhere, never” mentality in the law, not by a single statute but by an unnavigable maze of procedures that will be impossible to ever remove. One more reason to oppose Cap N’ Tax, as if we needed any more.

In Germany’s present Neo-Luddite mania we see a harbinger of what may be soon to come here.

cheers

eon

re: #168 Pianobuff

True that is, although I tend to look at military service a little bit differently from most other lines of work, don’t you?

Vis a vis your second point, if it is deemed that there is a shortage of doctors everywhere what would that portend?

Absolutely military service is different from most other lines of work. My son considered it but he couldn’t get where he needed to go that way. A shortage of doctors everywhere? I cringe to even think how horrendous that would be.

Some of the best research on the quality and cost of care and patient outcomes has been done at Dartmouth, which has a large health services research program. Those of you ragging on Obama for insulting doctors might want to look at this five-page report. The idea that doctors make decisions that are favorable to their bottom lines is not as outrageous as some seem to think.

re: #189 Pianobuff

This is how I’ve been hearing it, but the stories at the Herald keep changing in little ways as they get updated. The news that he accepted was added since this morning.

“Beer and bonding is on tap at the White House after a contrite President Obama yesterday invited a Cambridge cop and Harvard professor over in an effort to bring them together after a week of hard feelings over charges of racial profiling.

The invitation for a cold one was quickly accepted last night by both Sgt. James Crowley and professor Henry Louis Gates Jr.”

re: #191 Killian Bundy

A Gatesgate At Henry Gates’ “Bogus” Charity?

/the sniffing has started

Did you notice this? Apparently Gates and Crowley are related back to an Irish ancestor. How’s that for coincidence?

re: #122 Pianobuff

Since we’re talking about healthcare, I’ll throw a top-of-mind prediction out there…

If Obamacare passes with a public plan, the next public health emergency we’ll hear about is “not enough doctors”. Assuming Obama has some level of popularity, he will use this crisis to make a case for some sort of government education of up and coming doctors. The doctors, in exchange for a free education, will be government serfs, essentially in the employ of the U.S.A. for 10, 20, 30…who knows how many years.

Cradle-to-grave co-dependency if you will…

I hope I’m wrong about this, so feel free to fire away.

No, I think you’re right. I haven’t reviewed the whole health care plan, but I keep talking to doctors who say that they’ll just have to quit if it goes through, because they won’t be able to practice any more.

One thing that often happens when people who don’t know anything about medicine are put in charge of health care is that providers are replaced by lower-paid, unqualified people. E.g. doctors are replaced by nurse practitioners, and nurses are replaced by nurse’s aids. The results invariably are not only dangerously bad care, but costs that increase rather than decrease. I guess we may see this.

re: #181 NelsFree

Only 5 years in jail? How progressive! In Pakistan, Iran & Saudi Arabia the penalty for evangelism is death.

re: #186 swamprat

No— all wrong. It’s

“Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I’m being repressed!”

re: #140 debutaunt

Marvin P. Middlemark invented the Rabbit Ears television Antenna in 1956 in Rego Park, Queens, New York.

Mr. Solheim was a self-made millionaire who started his business in his garage. Born on Sept. 15, 1911, in Bergen, Norway, he moved to the United States at age 2 with his family. He grew up in Seattle, where his father was a shoemaker, but Mr. Solheim eventually decided to become an engineer. In 1953, he joined General Electric as a mechanical engineer and helped design the rabbit ears antenna that clamped onto General Electric’s first portable television.

re: #200 Kenneth

And not just any death, no no no. You’re beheaded in the public square.

Bring the family— make a picnic of it.

re: #196 JustMyView

Some of the best research on the quality and cost of care and patient outcomes has been done at Dartmouth, which has a large health services research program. Those of you ragging on Obama for insulting doctors might want to look at this five-page report. The idea that doctors make decisions that are favorable to their bottom lines is not as outrageous as some seem to think.

That doesn’t change the fact that Obama ragged on doctors as a whole. Nobody implied that doctors never cheat, that’s a straw man.

re: #191 Killian Bundy

A Gatesgate At Henry Gates’ “Bogus” Charity?

/the sniffing has started

“…Inkwell Foundation, dedicated to reforming the teaching of science and history in inner city schools using genetic and genealogical ancestry tracing.”

Does this mean he wants to connect all Blacks related to slavery by genetics? Is this a step towards reparations?

re: #191 Killian Bundy

A Gatesgate At Henry Gates’ “Bogus” Charity?

/the sniffing has started

I saw that in the spinoff links, and I was conflicted about updinging it. On the one hand, it looks like a good piece of investigation, and I think we need to know more about Henry Louis Gates to understand his behavior. The fact that he has used a race not only to create a lucrative career, but also a bogus charity, and a “Blacks Only” business, speaks to the credibility of the claim that he let loose with baseless accusations of racism.

On the other hand, this risks veering into investigations that don’t have anything to do with the arrest incident, and attempts to smear him out of pure vengeance. And the claim that Gates may have been “acting strange” because he didn’t want his secrets to come out is just ridiculous. Obviously, if Gates had a secret that he wanted to hide, he should have just showed Sergeant Crowley some ID, and said goodbye without making a scene.

re: #191 Killian Bundy

A Gatesgate At Henry Gates’ “Bogus” Charity?

/the sniffing has started

I don’t know the facts but the following acted stupidly;the Boston Globe, The state Attorney General’s office and Joseph Culligan of Web of Deception. It’s ok though,I’m having them all to my house for a beer.

Drat. Lightning storm inbound, have to sign off.

Later, Lizards.

cheers

eon

re: #202 BignJames

Mr. Solheim was a self-made millionaire who started his business in his garage. Born on Sept. 15, 1911, in Bergen, Norway, he moved to the United States at age 2 with his family. He grew up in Seattle, where his father was a shoemaker, but Mr. Solheim eventually decided to become an engineer. In 1953, he joined General Electric as a mechanical engineer and helped design the rabbit ears antenna that clamped onto General Electric’s first portable television.

Weird isn’t it? Wiki has a different story about a different person.

/Crowley’s got a defamation case right there

re: #200 Kenneth

Only 5 years in jail? How progressive! In Pakistan, Iran & Saudi Arabia the penalty for evangelism is death.

Progressive indeed. Morocco passed that law just a few years ago, and has used it to deport Christian evangelists and close down unregistered churches. Pakistan, Iran, and SArabia all have had the laws on the books for a while; ultimately the rule is based on a hadith in which Mo was quoted as saying, “if any man leaves his Islam, then kill him”.

re: #196 JustMyView

The idea that doctors make decisions that are favorable to their bottom lines is not as outrageous as some seem to think.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone think that idea is outrageous?

re: #207 n in wi

I don’t know the facts but the following acted stupidly;the Boston Globe, The state Attorney General’s office and Joseph Culligan of Web of Deception. It’s ok though,I’m having them all to my house for a beer.

Just for that, I’m not giving anyone a beer on this thread!
/neener neener neener

re: #210 Killian Bundy

/Crowley’s got a defamation case right there

You think Obama, Rahm, and Axelrod are in a room together wondering how they can get this guy to shut up?

re: #207 n in wi

I don’t know the facts but the following acted stupidly;the Boston Globe, The state Attorney General’s office and Joseph Culligan of Web of Deception. It’s ok though,I’m having them all to my house for a beer.

you forgot one: Barry

re: #210 Killian Bundy

/Crowley’s got a defamation case right there

Libel.

Why is Gates drawing poor people into this?

The New York Times Thomas Friedman’s pad. Remember it next time he preaches about carbon footprints:

[Link: planetgore.nationalreview.com…]

re: #212 Last Mohican

Just out of curiosity, does anyone think that idea is outrageous?

The idea seems to be that government control will make everything all nice and level and fair.

re: #194 eon

Referring to your first point. I studied agriculture and a co-student as a member of the green party dug into the records of the founding members of that party.
Guess who’s been found out? Old-time nazis galore. No joke, that student got kicked out of the party in a wide arch.
Sorry but I couldn’t provide any links, names or other info even under duress. Even the co-students name is lost in memory.

re: #206 Last Mohican

The fact that he (Gates) has used a race not only to create a lucrative career, but also a bogus charity, and a “Blacks Only” business, speaks to the credibility of the claim that he let loose with baseless accusations of racism.

On the other hand, this risks veering into investigations that don’t have anything to do with the arrest incident, and attempts to smear him out of pure vengeance.

So, we can’t call him a…racist?

re: #196 JustMyView

Doctors do make decisions that will influence their bottom lines. They are running a business of a sort after all. Most doctors won’t prescribe a treatment or procedure that will harm a patient just because they need that new set of golf clubs. If they did eventually their well of patients would dry up and they would be looking for another line of work.

re: #210 Killian Bundy

Wow… .’rogue policeman.’

I hope Gates gets what he deserves: the destruction of his credibility on the issues of race.

Errand time. BBL.

re: #212 Last Mohican

Just out of curiosity, does anyone think that idea is outrageous?

Maybe that’s the famous editorial “some.”

I wish Crowley would go off on Obama for the insinuation that all problems with an Irish cop from Mass. can be fixed with a beer.

re: #205 NelsFree

“…Inkwell Foundation, dedicated to reforming the teaching of science and history in inner city schools using genetic and genealogical ancestry tracing.”

Does this mean he wants to connect all Blacks related to slavery by genetics? Is this a step towards reparations?

Maybe it’s not anything so ideologically motivated as that. Maybe he just wants to teach poor inner city children how important it is that they order genetic testing kits from his for-profit company. He sells genetic testing kits, ranging from $189 to $1,277. But wait, that’s not all:

All Y-DNA and mtDNA test results include:
Migration map for your branch of mankind
Comparison to our World Wide Database
Printed certificate (suitable for framing)
Email notification when new matches to your results arrive
Archival storage of your DNA sample

re: #204 BigPapa

That doesn’t change the fact that Obama ragged on doctors as a whole. Nobody implied that doctors never cheat, that’s a straw man.

No, he didn’t. Below is what he actually said. As you’ll see, he is saying that doctors are actually trapped into providing unnecessary care because of current reimbursement practices.

Now, to get to your original question, can I guarantee that there are going to be no changes in the health care delivery system? No. The whole point of this is to try to encourage changes that work for the American people and make them healthier. The government already is making some of these decisions. More importantly, insurance companies right now are making those decisions.

And part of what we want to do is to make sure that those decisions are being made by doctors and medical experts based on evidence, based on what works — because that’s not how it’s working right now. That’s not how it’s working right now. Right now doctors a lot of times are forced to make decisions based on the fee payment schedule that’s out there.

So if they’re looking — and you come in and you’ve got a bad sore throat, or your child has a bad sore throat or has repeated sore throats, the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, you know what, I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out. Now that may be the right thing to do, but I’d rather have that doctor making those decisions just based on whether you really need your kid’s tonsils out or whether it might make more sense just to change — maybe they have allergies, maybe they have something else that would make a difference.

So part of what we want to do is to free doctors, patients, hospitals to make decisions based on what’s best for patient care — and that’s the whole idea behind Mayo, that’s the whole idea behind the Cleveland Clinic. I’m going to be visiting your hometown tomorrow to go to the Cleveland Clinic to show — to show why their system works so well. And part of the reason it works well is because they’ve set up a system where patient care is the number-one concern, not bureaucracy, what forms have to be filled out, what do we get reimbursed for. Those are changes that I think the American people want to see.

From across the pond.
The Obama dream turns into nightmare

…As recent Gallup surveys have shown, the United States remains a largely conservative nation, and Obama’s brand of high spending, high taxing neo-socialism is increasingly rejected by the American public. While much of Europe, including Britain, is moving rightwards, America is the only major country in the Western world whose leadership is dramatically moving to the left. Although he ran for the presidency largely as a centrist, Obama’s government is without doubt the most left-wing administration in American history.

Even with liberals dominating the Executive Branch and both Houses of Congress, as well as about 80 per cent of America’s print and television media, the Obama team has so far spectacularly failed to win over the American people to a radical big government agenda that seeks to significantly enhance the power of the state over the individual.

If he is not careful, Barack Obama may end up as one of the least popular presidents in American history. His dream of re-making the world’s greatest power into a large-scale version of modern-day Germany - with high taxation, dominant trade unions, overbearing government bureaucracy, stifling employment regulations, low defence spending, de-nuclearisation, a naive emphasis on soft power, and a constant desire to apologise for the past – is a nightmarish vision that fortunately is opposed by a growing majority of Americans. The spirit of individual liberty and free enterprise remains the most powerful force in the United States today, and any government that goes against it is bound to fail in imposing its agenda.

re: #220 NelsFree

So, we can’t call him a…racist?

Only if he is white.

re: #225 n in wi

I wish Crowley would go off on Obama for the insinuation that all problems with an Irish cop from Mass. can be fixed with a beer.

He needs to shut up unless he likes axle grease and tire tracks across his back.

re: #209 debutaunt

Weird isn’t it? Wiki has a different story about a different person.

Yep…weird.

re: #226 Last Mohican
His services will come in handy when the Gov. goes full fledged into eugenics.

re: #221 BlueCanuck

Doctors do make decisions that will influence their bottom lines. They are running a business of a sort after all. Most doctors won’t prescribe a treatment or procedure that will harm a patient just because they need that new set of golf clubs. If they did eventually their well of patients would dry up and they would be looking for another line of work.

Obama didn’t remotely say anything like that. His exact quote is in my #227.

re: #228 J.D.

From across the pond.
The Obama dream turns into nightmare

Obama had this dream of being the next FDR or JFK, leading America to a new golden age of liberalism. Instead, he’s looking more and more like Carter, leading his own party to ruination and a return to minority status.

re: #227 JustMyView

‘…the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, you know what, I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out.’

So it’s the system that’s influencing doctors to be greedy then?

re: #235 BigPapa

‘…the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, you know what, I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out.’

So it’s the system that’s influencing doctors to be greedy then?

/nevermind that primary care physicians don’t remove tonsils

re: #225 n in wi

I wish Crowley would go off on Obama for the insinuation that all problems with an Irish cop from Mass. can be fixed with a beer.

Obama did not insinuate this. In his press conference, he said that Crowley had suggested they get together for a beer.

re: #221 BlueCanuck

In Canada, doctors still make decisions based on their bottom line. They know the gov’t will only pay so much per service. Doctors will spend the absolute minimum time per patient per service to maximize their billables. Unnecessary tests are ordered to pad the bill. Quality care does not pay.

Good sultry afternoon Lizards. We are sitting in the eye for want of a better word of a bunch of t-storms up here in the greater Wenatchee Valley. Supposed to start hitting 100 for the next week and even possibly triple digits in Seattle! That’s about 2 hours to our west on the dry side of the Cascades. They’ll be melting!

re: #237 JustMyView

Obama did not insinuate this. In his press conference, he said that Crowley had suggested they get together for a beer.

/was that after he called him stupid?

re: #235 BigPapa

‘…the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, you know what, I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out.’

So it’s the system that’s influencing doctors to be greedy then?

Bailout the reimbursement system.

Soylent Green will be on TCM this afternoon.

I’m not sure what up with History Channel. Currently talking chemtrails and some researchers who claim yo have a high level FAA person who know all bout what we are doing with it.

re: #242 MandyManners

Soylent Green will be on TCM this afternoon.

And on store shelves shortly after Obamacare goes into effect.

re: #237 JustMyView

Obama did not insinuate this. In his press conference, he said that Crowley had suggested they get together for a beer.

He also said that Crowley was a rogue cop.

BBL. Capitalism calls: I must go be greedy and charge somebody for a service that they don’t know how or want to do.

re: #242 MandyManners

Soylent Green will be on TCM this afternoon.

Didn’t we all speak of this a few days ago?
Errr, ‘t was Health Care we were discussing.

re: #227 JustMyView

he is saying that doctors are actually trapped into providing unnecessary care because of current reimbursement practices.

If a doctor takes out your kid’s tonsils unnecessarily just to make a buck, he’s not “trapped by current reimbursement practices.” He’s either an ignoramus who needs to study up on recommendations for tonsillectomy, or he’s an unscrupulous bastard who should have his license revoked. I know a lot of doctors who are currently reimbursed, and who do not find themselves forced to take out kids’ tonsils unnecessarily.

If you think it’s a good idea that your doctor can’t treat you without first asking for permission from some non-medically-trained person in a central office who takes money away from health care in order to draw a salary, then you’ve probably never been a direct participant in “managed care.”

re: #245 debutaunt

He also said that Crowley was a rogue cop.

Wasn’t it Gates who said that?

re: #227 JustMyView

So if they’re looking — and you come in and you’ve got a bad sore throat, or your child has a bad sore throat or has repeated sore throats, the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, you know what, I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out. Now that may be the right thing to do, but I’d rather have that doctor making those decisions just based on whether you really need your kid’s tonsils out or whether it might make more sense just to change — maybe they have allergies, maybe they have something else that would make a difference.

I’m just not reading it the same way you are. Obama is painting a picture of a doctor looking up a fee schedule and opting for the most “profitable” procedure.

Not only that, as cited before, the PTP does not stand to make a dime off of a tonsillectomy except for the rare circumstances that he/she is also a surgeon.

Not only that, but there are circumstances where a tonsillectomy is in the long run cheaper than a lifetime of allergy.

It’s very hard for me to look at this as uninformed demonization, even after reading it several times.

re: #239 pingjockey

Good sultry afternoon Lizards. We are sitting in the eye for want of a better word of a bunch of t-storms up here in the greater Wenatchee Valley. Supposed to start hitting 100 for the next week and even possibly triple digits in Seattle! That’s about 2 hours to our west on the dry side of the Cascades. They’ll be melting!

You sound excited. ; )