Here’s one of those stories that makes you go aaarrrgghhh, as the latest Public Policy Polling survey shows that a significant number of New Jersey voters believe Barack Obama might be His Nibs. The Horned One. Beelzebub.
The Antichristers were also represented at last weekend’s tea party demonstration, of course:
Lots of Truthers and Birthers in the survey too. Here are the full results, with crosstabs.
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StillAMarine Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:34:58am |
About 20% of people believe the Earth is the center of the Universe. 8% isn't too bad.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:35:20am |
I thought Anti Christ Superstar was a Marilyn Manson CD.
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Baier Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:35:43am |
Crazy, but if you ask that about Bush I bet it would be even higher.
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MJ Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:35:58am |
Wait. Is Obama Jewish? Jerry Falwell said the anti-Christ is going to be a Jewish male.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:36:10am |
Disgusting. The man is a human being, no more, no less.
Although, it is interesting that 5% of liberals can't seem to make up their minds if Obama is or isn't the antichrist - LOL!
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bosforus Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:36:34am |
That 13% unsure is what's bothering me. Who sits there and scratches their head over a ridiculous question like that?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:37:24am |
re: #7 bosforus
That 13% unsure is what's bothering me. Who sits there and scratches their head over a ridiculous question like that?
Beats the crap outta me. That's 13% of moderates, 17% of conservatives, and 5% of liberals.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:37:33am |
re: #7 bosforus
That 13% unsure is what's bothering me. Who sits there and scratches their head over a ridiculous question like that?
Doubting Thomas'...they want to see the horns and tail before signing on.
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tradewind Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:38:00am |
The same thing was said about George W, and I believe, Reagan.
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_RememberTonyC Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:38:07am |
I don't like where this is going. as hitler proved, demonization can lead to very bad things when the number of believers reaches critical mass.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:38:38am |
Using the same sampling group I wonder how many could find the USA on a map?
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Haole Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:38:50am |
This was not "news worthy" when it was Bush, and it's not "news worthy" now.
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:39:21am |
31% of people who voted for Obama in 2008 are Troofers (19% unsure). On issue of birthers - it's a near mirror to the troofer question.
It shows that the Obamacare is going to have a hard time passing. If it can't generate a majority approval in NJ, it's going to have a hard time being swallowed in more conservative locales.
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badger1970 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:39:39am |
re: #5 Honorary Yooper
Even with fair polling we're looking at 3% Democrats, 3% Republicans and 2% voters believe this.
Somehow the History channel always pictures an blue-eyed, blond-haired male in a dapper three-piece as the devil with jets bombing the crap out of something in the background. Go figure.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:39:52am |
Why wasn't there a "Is this a serious question" button?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:40:14am |
re: #4 MJ
Wait. Is Obama Jewish? Jerry Falwell said the anti-Christ is going to be a Jewish male.
There are Jews in Kenya.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:40:45am |
re: #17 Leonidas Hoplite
5% of Liberals? Seems high.
Yes, it does, considering they usually view him as the Second Coming of the Messiah.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:41:19am |
I'm gonna need to check my Magic 8 Ball to answer this question. Or my Ouija board.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:41:29am |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
There are Jews in Kenya.
We're totally screwed then! Nice knowing you all, I hope to see some of you in Purgatory.
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tradewind Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:41:58am |
Drumroll...
[Link: www.markswatson.com...]
[Link: www.dvorak.org...]
[Link: www.seattleweekly.com...]
and my fave, ' Evidence that Reagan is the Beast of Revelation'
[Link: home.mcn.net...]
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:42:03am |
The Rasmussen Reports Savior/AntiChrist index Shows Obama on a negative trend since the inauguration. The number of people who believe he is the Anti-Christ has remained steady while those believing he is The One true Savior and President have declined slightly. Focus groups indicate the reason for this trend may be due to a lack of free unicorns.
White house spokesperson Amy Nonomous told Fox news that the Happy Magical Powers defecit left by the previous administration was more severe than previously expected.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:42:27am |
re: #7 bosforus
That 13% unsure is what's bothering me. Who sits there and scratches their head over a ridiculous question like that?
I wondered that too.
Then I thought, what percentage of Americans is likely not to know who the f*ck the anti-Christ is?
I'm pretty sure 13% is a lowball figure.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:42:30am |
re: #24 Desert Dog
I'm pretty sure I'm getting a hotter room a little further down.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:42:56am |
I never get asked questions by pollsters. I wish someone would ask me a stupid question like that.
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:43:18am |
re: #4 MJ
Wait. Is Obama Jewish? Jerry Falwell said the anti-Christ is going to be a Jewish male.
That explains why 2% of the American public believe that Obama is Sammy Davis Jr. Reincarnated.
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badger1970 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:43:30am |
re: #31 Desert Dog
I never get asked questions by pollsters. I wish someone would ask me a stupid question like that.
Your reply would be...
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Son of the Black Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:43:49am |
OTOH, I'd answer yes, just to be ornery.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:43:55am |
re: #29 Killgore Trout
I'm pretty sure I'm getting a hotter room a little further down.
Ya never know, Killgore
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:44:22am |
re: #26 tradewind
The key difference is that this kind of thing used to be reserved for a few nuts on the fringe. It's now fairly mainstream.
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tradewind Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:44:54am |
re: #30 Sharmuta
Chill...
It's a tradition. So many links for the past five or six presidents on the same topic that you can't even list them. Why this is news because it's said of TOTUS is news to me.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:45:15am |
re: #33 badger1970
Your reply would be...
NO, of course...he is not the Anti-Christ.
He is SATAN, coming to claim his Evil Kingdom here on earth. Everyone knows that!
/
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:45:28am |
re: #38 Killgore Trout
The key difference is that this kind of thing used to be reserved for a few nuts on the fringe. It's now fairly mainstream.
13 out of 100 is mainstream? I never knew.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:45:41am |
re: #32 DaddyG
That explains why 2% of the American public believe that Obama is Sammy Davis Jr. Reincarnated.
Obama Man Can?
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:45:43am |
re: #34 Leonidas Hoplite
Iowahawk? Is that you?
I am honored - I'ts just the creative product of work avoidance vis a vis a large project on my desk.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:45:59am |
Told this story before...
Last summer we were at a water park which had a big bucket that dumped periodically. I was watching the "baby" and bored. The bucket had a sign telling us how many gallons it dumped. 1,000 gallons. I wondered how fast it was filling. I timed it. 150 seconds per dumping. That meant that the bucket was filling at the rate of 6.66666 (etc) gallons per second.
I had found...(lightning flash) the bucket of the beast. Yes, I grinned over it.
(Have you ever stood guard over a four year old who wanted to play on the same water toy for forty minutes?)
Anyway, point is...sometimes a number is just a number.
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Buster Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:46:24am |
I read somewhere, before the election, that there were growing concerns that people, for the supposed reason of survey fatigue, were giving misleading answers to surveys. I must say that If I am asked a question involving the President as anti-Christ, or other ridiculous assertions, I would be sorely tempted to take them for a ride...
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tradewind Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:46:33am |
re: #4 MJ
And a percentage of those polled believe that Jerry Falwell was the AntiChrist.
//
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:47:26am |
Obama isn't the Antichrist. I've dated the Antichrist.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:47:40am |
What's the buzz?
Tell me what's a-happenin?
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MJ Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:47:52am |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
There are Jews in Kenya.
Oh no! Pat Buchanan will start promoting the myth that Obama is Sekrit Jew.
And here's the evidence he'll use:
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:48:04am |
Oh and if there are any discrepancies in the percentages, that's because the remainder believe that Gov. Jon Corzine is the antiChrist [cue Molly Shannon] /superstar!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:48:30am |
re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What's the buzz?
Tell me what's a-happenin?
Obama is the Antichrist. Repent at your leisure.
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Dreader1962 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:48:46am |
How would an atheist answer this question? I initially thought it would be definitely 'No', but isn't that acknowledging that there would be such a thing as an 'Anti-Christ'? Answering 'Not Sure' isn't really an option, either.
I suppose 'skipping the question while laughing at the premise' is not an option?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:49:26am |
Will we be getting an Antichrist czar now?
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subsailor68 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:49:30am |
Pollster: May I have a moment of your time, sir?
subsailor: Okay, I guess.
Pollster: We're taking a poll to find out how many people believe the president is the Antichrist.
subsailor: You're what?
Pollster: Do you think the president is the Antichrist?
subsailor: Are you nuts?
Pollster: Sir, the response should be "Certain", "Certainly Not", and "Not Sure".
subsailor: Gotcha. Okay, here goes. I'm "certain" you're a complete moron; I'm "certainly not" gonna take you seriously", and I'm "not sure" how you got out of the asylum. How's that?
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bosforus Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:49:51am |
re: #28 Cato the Elder
That's a good point, too. Guess I would just like people to have a quicker opinion about something like that. Now that I think about it, it's not hard to imagine a random person on the street giving an, "I don't know" kind of answer.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:49:58am |
Maybe they meant the Jersey Devil. Did they only poll people who live near the Pine Barrens?
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:50:12am |
re: #56 subsailor68
Pollster: May I have a moment of your time, sir?
subsailor: Okay, I guess.
Pollster: We're taking a poll to find out how many people believe the president is the Antichrist.
subsailor: You're what?
Pollster: Do you think the president is the Antichrist?
subsailor: Are you nuts?
Pollster: Sir, the response should be "Certain", "Certainly Not", and "Not Sure".
subsailor: Gotcha. Okay, here goes. I'm "certain" you're a complete moron; I'm "certainly not" gonna take you seriously", and I'm "not sure" how you got out of the asylum. How's that?
Pollster: Ok, I'll take that as a "not sure" then...thanks
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Sharmuta Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:50:32am |
re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What's the buzz?
Tell me what's a-happenin?
When do we
ride into the capitol?
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Randall Gross Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:51:01am |
Let's also not forget Gregory whosits from your post the other day, he really started the Antichrist meme from the Rockford institute/Paleocon faction.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:51:18am |
Idiotic survey questions deserve idiotic answers.
Is a shred of evidence that the 8% actually believed it?
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_RememberTonyC Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:51:33am |
Actually, I heard that Alex Rodriguez is the anti-Christ ... some guy in a bar in Boston told me, so it passes the glenn beck standard for research.
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KenJen Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:51:41am |
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:52:02am |
re: #47 Buster
Somewhere in the boiler room of a Political Action Committee call center is a confused and somewhat frightened pollster who thinks I am an anarchist who believes in arming gradeschoolers and polluting GAIA as fast as possible before she can recover and eat us all!
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jill e Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:52:06am |
From TPMDC on the same poll:
But Democrats shouldn't be too eager to laugh at this. On the other side of the political spectrum, there's some significant 9/11 Trutherism among Dem voters. We've got 32% of Jersey Democrats who say that George W. Bush had advance knowledge of the 9/11 attacks. In addition, another 19% of Jersey Dems are Truther-Curious, in the undecided column.
So that's only 48% of Jersey Republicans who definitively are not Birthers, and 49% of Dems who are officially not Truthers. Don't you just love our polarized politics?
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:52:58am |
re: #59 Mad Al-Jaffee
Maybe they meant the Jersey Devil. Did they only poll people who live near the Pine Barrens?
This is a good point. Everyone knows that Lou Lamoriello is the real Anti-Christ.
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tradewind Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:53:31am |
re: #32 DaddyG
Who can take a sunrise, sprinkle it with dew
Cover it with choc'late and a miracle or two...
Oh, who can take tomorrow, dip it in a dream
Separate the sorrow and collect up all the cream...The Candyman can Cause he mixes it with love and makes the world taste good...
Yeah, right out of the old Hope and Change lyric departent.
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:53:44am |
re: #65 _RememberTonyC
Actually, I heard that Alex Rodriguez is the anti-Christ ... some guy in a bar in Boston told me, so it passes the glenn beck standard for research.
Just for Yankee fans though - not sure that qualifies.
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tradewind Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:54:14am |
re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Why should you want to know? Don't you worry ' bout the future.
BHO's on it.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:54:58am |
"You know there ain't no devil, that's just god when he's drunk"
-Tom Waits
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karmic_inquisitor Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:55:04am |
Obama can't be the anti-christ.
He looks nothing like the StaPuff marshmallow man.
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:55:08am |
re: #61 buzzsawmonkey
How did the poll correct for Jews and others who don't believe in "the Anti-Christ?"
Theological question for the day... Does one have to believe in Christ to believe in an Anti-Christ?
Tomorrow we will discuss if the number of Angels dancing on the head of a pin varies if they engage in country line dancing vs. swing.
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experiencedtraveller Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:55:14am |
re: #69 Leonidas Hoplite
This is a good point. Everyone knows that Lou Lamoriello is the real Anti-Christ.
Shut your filthy mouth.
/(closet Devil's fan...)
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tradewind Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:55:42am |
re: #38 Killgore Trout
Yeah, right.
I'm not sure just where your stream flows, but it's not anywhere near Main St.
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_RememberTonyC Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:55:47am |
re: #71 Leonidas Hoplite
Just for Yankee fans though - not sure that qualifies.
Actually, A-Rod is "Mr Any Month But October" to Yankee fans. To Red Sox fans, he's the real anti-Christ.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:56:18am |
re: #72 tradewind
Why should you want to know? Don't you worry ' bout the future.
BHO's on it.
I feel a disturbance in the Force...like hundreds of billions of dollars are about to get flushed down the crapper...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:56:38am |
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:57:00am |
re: #78 buzzsawmonkey
Raj has a scheme, Dee Dee is poking fun at Rerun, and Mama is viewing it all with characteristic good humor.
What's Shirley doing?
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:57:49am |
re: #77 experiencedtraveller
Shut your filthy mouth.
/(closet Devil's fan...)
Sorry! Sorry! I meant to say all Rangers fans know...
/jealous Rangers fan
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:58:13am |
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:59:17am |
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tradewind Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:59:26am |
re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know, the real problem is simply this:
We Don't Know How to Love Him.
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:59:39am |
re: #80 _RememberTonyC
Actually, A-Rod is "Mr Any Month But October" to Yankee fans. To Red Sox fans, he's the real anti-Christ.
I'll defer to you but the Sox have won 2 World Championships since A-Rod signed with the Yanks. Coincidence? Coincidence?? I question the timing!!!
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agarrett Wed, Sep 16, 2009 10:59:45am |
I wonder if the poll is corrected for sarcasm. I mean, seriously, if some moron electronic pollster asked me a question this dumb, I might be tempted to hit yes out of annoyance (though odds are I'd have hung up a while ago, given that this was listed as question 11...)
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:00:38am |
The picture Charles posted looks a lot like ones I've seen in Zombie's reports/blog. Different president though.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:01:56am |
re: #78 buzzsawmonkey
Raj has a scheme, Dee Dee is poking fun at Rerun, and Mama is viewing it all with characteristic good humor.
And The Doobie Brothers will be making a special guest appearance!
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:02:04am |
re: #64 Spare O'Lake
Idiotic survey questions deserve idiotic answers.
Is there a shred of evidence that the 8% actually believed it?
PIMF
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:02:15am |
re: #91 agarrett
I wonder if the poll is corrected for sarcasm. I mean, seriously, if some moron electronic pollster asked me a question this dumb, I might be tempted to hit yes out of annoyance (though odds are I'd have hung up a while ago, given that this was listed as question 11...)
You could cross correlate the results with the number of people who were laughing so hard they peed themselves.
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_RememberTonyC Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:02:21am |
re: #90 Leonidas Hoplite
I'll defer to you but the Sox have won 2 World Championships since A-Rod signed with the Yanks. Coincidence? Coincidence?? I question the timing!!!
That's because teams that feature the anti-Christ as their starting third baseman are cursed :)
I wonder how A-Rod will blow it for NY this year?
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:02:28am |
I know at least one lib who thinks, yes, he is the Anti-Christ and STILL voted for him because he was NOT an R!!
Go figure.
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MrSilverDragon Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:02:34am |
They're not calling him the AntiChrist, they're just playing a poker game and they're getting annoyed with him not throwing into the pot quickly enough.
"Barrack, Ante. Christ!"
/i smell bread
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:03:34am |
re: #92 Mad Al-Jaffee
The picture Charles posted looks a lot like ones I've seen in Zombie's reports/blog. Different president though.
"The parting on the left is now the parting on the right..."
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pingemi Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:03:42am |
I may have to revise my 1% crazy uncle theory upwards a bit.
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Jack Burton Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:03:43am |
I wonder how many of these people were serious and how many were being smartasses. I'm pretty sure if the phone rang and a computer asked me that question, after I stopped laughing I'd hit yes too just for the LOL moment.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:04:22am |
re: #101 buzzsawmonkey
Raymond Shaw is the kindest, warmest, most lovable human being I've ever known in my life.
Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:04:22am |
re: #97 Crimsonfisted
I know at least one lib who thinks, yes, he is the Anti-Christ and STILL voted for him because he was NOT an R!!
Go figure.
Now that will cause one's mind to thoroughly implode.
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:05:47am |
re: #92 Mad Al-Jaffee
The picture Charles posted looks a lot like ones I've seen in Zombie's reports/blog. Different president though.
You know, I could probably make lots of money selling little plastic clingly colorform devils horns and Hitler moustaches to WTO protesters that they could apply and reapply to posters of political leaders of their choice.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:05:55am |
re: #103 ArchangelMichael
I wonder how many of these people were serious and how many were being smartasses. I'm pretty sure if the phone rang and a computer asked me that question, after I stopped laughing I'd hit yes too just for the LOL moment.
Good question. The results as we're taking them right now assumes everyone was playing it straight. Some of us might choose "yes" just to fuck with the results.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:07:00am |
re: #108 DaddyG
You know, I could probably make lots of money selling little plastic clingly colorform devils horns and Hitler moustaches to WTO protesters that they could apply and reapply to posters of political leaders of their choice.
I see a bright future in that business. One would never really run out of customers, they'd just change with the political season.
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:07:10am |
re: #102 pingemi
I may have to revise my 1% crazy uncle theory upwards a bit.
All of the People are fools some of the time and some of the People are fools all the time.
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:08:37am |
re: #109 Honorary Yooper
Good question. The results as we're taking them right now assumes everyone was playing it straight. Some of us might choose "yes" just to fuck with the results.
The question becomes- is the margin of snark greater or less than the margin of error?
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FightingBack Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:08:39am |
Some time ago, at work (I'm a doctor) I felt that I had fallen into a parallel universe; and had left known reality behind. Now I see that it's true all over.
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:08:40am |
Silly people. No self-respecting anti-Christ would need a teleprompter.
Also, a real manly anti-Christ would not smoke Kool 100's. He'd go for filterless Camels or Chesterfield's. A real anti-Christ could smoke three packs a day of those bad boys for years without his breathing sounding like an espresso maker, or Darth Vader with sleep apnea.
Besides, he's supposed to be charismatic AND a leader.
Nope--no anti-Christ here. Move along, citizens.
-signed: Marco de Beist.
///
just in case some did not get it.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:08:49am |
18% of the self-identified conservatives believe Obama is the Antichrist. Another 17% aren't sure.
That's more than a third of the conservatives who believe Obama either is or might be -- literally -- Satan.
This is bad craziness.
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Flyovercountry Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:09:43am |
If there were an Anti-Christ, and being Jewish, that is a tough pill for me to swallow, I would believe that he would be somewhat competent. President Obama does not strike me as being competent in even the slightest fashion. That being said, who did these folks pick for their poll. If your church is in a strip mall, might be time to chose a new one, just a personal opinion.
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FightingBack Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:10:11am |
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:10:21am |
re: #96 _RememberTonyC
That's because teams that feature the anti-Christ as their starting third baseman are cursed :)
I wonder how A-Rod will blow it for NY this year?
Well the 2004 mantra was Reverse the Curse...
That said, Yankees look good going into October. Maybe they just need to send him to Madonna for the month?
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bofhell Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:10:55am |
re: #118 Charles
I'd like to have something clarify please?
Is there a GOOD crazy? If so, can you point me towards it please...
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:11:20am |
The fate of Afghanistan hangs in the balance...
In Congress, 'A Lot Of Angst' Over Afghanistan
Meanwhile, back at the Capital Building,
(cue cheesy organ music)
Congress: We have much angst today, General.
General JCoS: Yes, I realize that, but we need more men to get the job done.
Congress: When does this end, General? How do we get out of this?
General JCoS: Things are not going so well right now, but with more boots on the ground and support, we feel we can get the job done.
Congress: So, General, you do not know how or when we will be able to leave?
General JCoS: We need more men there right now.
Announcer: Will Congress give the General the troops he needs? Or, will Congress once again lack the intestinal fortitude to do what is required? Will the Afghans help themselves or be thrown back to a Pre-911 hell?
These questions, and many more will be answered on the next exciting episode of Watch the US Bug Out of Afghanistan!
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subsailor68 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:11:30am |
Oh joy!
Obama Admin: Cap And Trade Could Cost Families $1,761 A Year
From the article:
Because personal income tax revenues bring in around $1.37 trillion a year, a $200 billion additional tax would be the equivalent of a 15 percent increase a year. A $100 billion additional tax would represent a 7 or 8 percent increase a year.
And this:
One odd point: The document written by Jaffee includes this line: "It will raise energy prices and impose annual costs on the order of XXX." The Treasury Department redacted the rest of the sentence with a thick black line.
I'm guessin' here, but does anyone think the Treasury Dept. would redact good news?
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bofhell Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:12:04am |
re: #122 Leonidas Hoplite
We've moved beyond that and have discovered football, after all...
...All you need is one.
Go Pats.
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badger1970 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:12:08am |
A quick google yields over a million hits for Bush antichrist; not that's loony. /
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midwestgak Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:12:29am |
Anti-mother
How about the woman who stabbed her 3 and 5 year old children, then stabbed herself today? Where does that rank?
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:12:44am |
re: #126 bofhell
We've moved beyond that and have discovered football, after all...
...All you need is one.
Go Pats.
I need a pick for my suicide pool. Suggestions?
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:12:57am |
A little Python paraphrasing:
"Well, how did you get to be anti-Christ? I didn't vote for you."
or
"But, I'm not the anti-Christ, really!"
"And I say you are, my dark lord, and I should know; I've followed a few."
///
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badger1970 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:13:39am |
re: #129 Leonidas Hoplite
Washington v. St. Louis; or Viks v. Lions
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Danny Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:14:15am |
I'm no good at theology: can a Muslim be the anti-Christ? If so, how does that work?
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:14:36am |
DOH! WRONG LINK!! pimf
re: #124 Desert Dog
In Congress, 'A Lot Of Angst' Over Afghanistan
The fate of Afghanistan hangs in the balance...
Meanwhile, back at the Capital Building,
(cue cheesy organ music)Congress: We have much angst today, General.
General JCoS: Yes, I realize that, but we need more men to get the job done.
Congress: When does this end, General? How do we get out of this?
General JCoS: Things are not going so well right now, but with more boots on the ground and support, we feel we can get the job done.
Congress: So, General, you do not know how or when we will be able to leave?
General JCoS: We need more men there right now.
Announcer: Will Congress give the General the troops he needs? Or, will Congress once again lack the intestinal fortitude to do what is required? Will the Afghans help themselves or be thrown back to a Pre-911 hell?
These questions, and many more will be answered on the next exciting episode of Watch the US Bug Out of Afghanistan!
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:14:46am |
re: #118 Charles
18% of the self-identified conservatives believe Obama is the Antichrist. Another 17% aren't sure.
That's more than a third of the conservatives who believe Obama either is or might be -- literally -- Satan.
This is bad craziness.
The fact that the rates of stated belief are significantly higher among Republicans is interesting for sure.
But this still leaves quite a few Dems who say they believe it - is this perhaps evidence of racism among Dems?
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:14:57am |
re: #127 badger1970
We ran the search a while back.
You have to run the search for bush antichrist without obama. 556,000 hits.
The reverse, obama antichrist -bush yields... 7,100,000 hits.
Bear in mind that many of those hits include debunking of same, but that's a staggering difference. Seriously WTF.
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:15:04am |
re: #126 bofhell
We've moved beyond that and have discovered football, after all...
Go Pats.
Death to the Patriots (Belicheck--now there's a real anti-Christ candidate)
Long live the Saints!
//
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shiplord kirel Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:15:17am |
re: #118 Charles
18% of the self-identified conservatives believe Obama is the Antichrist. Another 17% aren't sure.
That's more than a third of the conservatives who believe Obama either is or might be -- literally -- Satan.
This is bad craziness.
I don't think it's unfair or unreasonable to assume the percentage would be much higher here in the south either. Not all evangelicals or Tim LaHaye readers believe in this insanity, but a fair number will and there are a lot more of those here than in Jersey.
Title search for "antichrist" at Free Republic
To their credit, many Freepers roundly deride this kind of speculation but many, many others seem to take it seriously.
My favorite: GENETICS, UFOS AND THE BIRTH OF THE ANTICHRIST
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:15:31am |
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Danny Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:15:51am |
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Flyovercountry Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:16:15am |
re: #132 Danny
I'm no good at theology: can a Muslim be the anti-Christ? If so, how does that work?
In the United States of America, you can be anything you want to be. Just work hard, get good grades in school and apply yourself. One day you can be the anti-christ if you want to.
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Sharmuta Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:16:32am |
re: #132 Danny
I'm no good at theology: can a Muslim be the anti-Christ? If so, how does that work?
Many anti-muslim extremists will tell you they think mohammed was the antichrist.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:16:45am |
re: #123 bofhell
Is there a GOOD crazy? If so, can you point me towards it please...
In my experience, crazy women can be damn good in other ways.
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SpaceJesus Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:17:03am |
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:17:12am |
re: #136 SpaceJesus
obama is so metal right now
So, he'll rust if we throw water on him?
I know he had a tin ear, what's the rest of him made of.
Comment like that do little to alloy our fears of him.
//
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:17:22am |
re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
Question for the Christians out there--and a serious one. Is the Anti-Christ supposed to be Satan in some form or incarnation, or is he merely supposed to be a false-prophet servant of Satan, passing himself off as something he is not with demonic assistance?
"He's" supposed to come here resembling Christ to decieve us
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:17:40am |
re: #125 subsailor68
Oh joy!
Obama Admin: Cap And Trade Could Cost Families $1,761 A Year
From the article:
Because personal income tax revenues bring in around $1.37 trillion a year, a $200 billion additional tax would be the equivalent of a 15 percent increase a year. A $100 billion additional tax would represent a 7 or 8 percent increase a year.
And this:
One odd point: The document written by Jaffee includes this line: "It will raise energy prices and impose annual costs on the order of XXX." The Treasury Department redacted the rest of the sentence with a thick black line.
I'm guessin' here, but does anyone think the Treasury Dept. would redact good news?
According to my favorite lib friend:
"Lowering taxes in a recession is the WORST thing you can do..."
Which is why I would choose the nuts on the right as opposed to the 'moral and progressive' fools on the left.
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FightingBack Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:17:50am |
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Spider Mensch Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:17:50am |
re: #136 SpaceJesus
obama is so metal right now
jeepers..it's like beetlejuice..you all mentioned his name 3 times...and bam! there he is! wow..do it again!
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:18:10am |
I do not believe in the Anti Christ.
I do however believe in the Uncle Christ.
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Jack Burton Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:18:15am |
re: #115 DaddyG
The question becomes- is the margin of snark greater or less than the margin of error?
There's also the factor of people who refer to anyone they really don't like as the Anti-Christ, without meaning they are literally Satan. My mother referred to my father's mother as the Anti-Christ on occasion. I thought a couple of my ex-girlfriends were the Anti-Christ, yet I'm not even a Christian.
I'd be shocked if the Margin of Snark wasn't high on this poll.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:18:27am |
So when can we start the Inquisition?
/
Hey everybody walk this way!
I just got back from the auto de fe.
The auto de fe? What the auto de fe?
Its what you ought to not do but you do anyway
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:18:28am |
re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
The latter. He's not the real big-bad. Satan is still numero uno in the pure evil division.
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bofhell Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:18:36am |
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:18:37am |
re: #151 Spider Mensch
jeepers..it's like beetlejuice..you all mentioned his name 3 times...and bam! there he is! wow..do it again!
Don't say it backwards three times!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:18:41am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:19:15am |
Now we know the real reason he's hiding his nirth certficate - his real birthdate is 6-6-66!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:19:49am |
re: #151 Spider Mensch
jeepers..it's like beetlejuice..you all mentioned his name 3 times...and bam! there he is! wow..do it again!
Biggie Smalls
Biggie Smalls
Biggie...
I can't do it!
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Danny Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:19:51am |
Well, thruth be told, my mother-in-law is... hmm, I better wait for the next Lizard Lounge to finish.
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:20:09am |
re: #135 lawhawk
Curiously, if you run a search of bush antichrist, you get 1.7 million hits, obama antichrist gets you 2.24 million hits, and bush obama antichrist gets you 6.4 million and change.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:20:35am |
re: #153 ArchangelMichael
There's also the factor of people who refer to anyone they really don't like as the Anti-Christ, without meaning they are literally Satan. My mother referred to my father's mother as the Anti-Christ on occasion. I thought a couple of my ex-girlfriends were the Anti-Christ, yet I'm not even a Christian.
I'd be shocked if the Margin of Snark wasn't high on this poll.
I have a friend who calls her ex-husband "spawn of satan."
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:20:41am |
re: #154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So when can we start the Inquisition?
/
Hey everybody walk this way!
I just got back from the auto de fe.The auto de fe? What the auto de fe?
Its what you ought to not do but you do anyway
We've ruptured their balls,
We've busted their buns
Nothing is working!
Send in the Nuns!
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:21:13am |
re: #163 lawhawk
Curiously, if you run a search of bush antichrist, you get 1.7 million hits, obama antichrist gets you 2.24 million hits, and bush obama antichrist gets you 6.4 million and change.
There can be only one! I am waiting for the dramatic sword fight at the end
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:21:18am |
re: #159 buzzsawmonkey
So I gathered, but that doesn't quite address the question. Satan in some form, or merely human deceiver with major Satanic assistance?
No,, not satan, but one who will deny that Jesus is "THe Christ" and also the trinity
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experiencedtraveller Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:21:24am |
re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
Question for the Christians out there--and a serious one. Is the Anti-Christ supposed to be Satan in some form or incarnation, or is he merely supposed to be a false-prophet servant of Satan, passing himself off as something he is not with demonic assistance?
Francisco Suárez maintains that it is of faith that Antichrist is an individual person, a signal enemy of Christ.
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bofhell Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:21:26am |
re: #145 Mad Al-Jaffee
In my experience, crazy women can be damn good in other ways.
I suspect there is a large group of divorced men who might have an issue with that assertion.
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:21:27am |
re: #159 buzzsawmonkey
Not Satan-- but a minion. A very powerful minion--but still a subordinate.
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:21:32am |
re: #166 buzzsawmonkey
6.4 million and change, but no hope?
What a gyp.
Hope was abandoned when ye entered...
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FightingBack Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:21:47am |
I just answered a page from a patient: "Please call me about my daughter, she is not feeling well at all." I called. The question really was whether her school forms, which they had delayed submitting to me until the last moment, had been completed and sent out? And when?
See what I mean? Soon, your Govt will pay for it...
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:21:50am |
re: #165 calcajun
It's never a complete day in lizard land without at least one Mel Brooks quote.
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:21:57am |
In the future, everyone will be the antichrist for 15 minutes.
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karmic_inquisitor Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:22:29am |
OT - hey Cato -
A heartfelt thanks for the last thread. I just looked up, found, called and laughed with the guy I was with at that incident we discussed on the prior thread.
We do live in a wonderful age - where we can, in a few minutes of work, often find an old friend and just say "hello - how is life?"
I wish I did it more.
Made my day.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:22:29am |
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Kragar Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:22:33am |
re: #165 calcajun
We've ruptured their balls,
We've busted their buns
Nothing is working!
Send in the Nuns!
Confesss, dont be boring!
Say yesss, don't be DULL!
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Son of the Black Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:22:36am |
Speaking of the Antichrist, Jimmy Carter has a lot of nerve calling anyone (Joe Wilson) a racist. When Carter ran for Governor of Georgia in 1970 he toured around south Georgia making speeches saying, "I am one of you". These were generally interpreted to be racist code words.
He also ran on a "ticket" with Lester Maddox (then running for Lt. Governor) in the Democrat primary, which was the only election that mattered, it being a given that the Democrat would win any statewide race. Wikipedia says Carter did not run on a ticket with Maddox, but I remember differently, and I was a resident of Georgia at the time. This was newsworthy because it was quite unusual for candidates for Governor and Lt. Governor to run as a ticket in the primary, so it got lots of press.
Incidentally, Carter was running against one of the most progressive governors the State of Georgia ever had, Carl Sanders.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:22:45am |
re: #173 FightingBack
I just answered a page from a patient: "Please call me about my daughter, she is not feeling well at all." I called. The question really was whether her school forms, which they had delayed submitting to me until the last moment, had been completed and sent out? And when?
See what I mean? Soon, your Govt will pay for it...
Nope, looks like the public option is dead.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:22:51am |
re: #175 lawhawk
In the future, everyone will be the antichrist for 15 minutes.
I'm Satan and so is my wife!!!
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turn Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:22:53am |
Whoa, 71% of the people truly believe in the devil if you can trust Fox:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
That surprised the hell out of me (no pun intended).
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:23:15am |
re: #164 Mad Al-Jaffee
I have a friend who calls her ex-husband "spawn of satan."
I have a friend who has a sister-in-law named Christine. I taught his kids to call her the anti-Chris. I'm not really welcome in that house when she's around.
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figgles Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:23:55am |
Wait a minute ... a phone poll? Puh-leaze. I don't how many times I messed with stupid phone polls. It reminds me of Carl Sagan explaining an exotic island's inhabitant's reaction to a stranger asking them where babies come from. It's very likely the inhabitant will give a silly answer... and this is New Jersey, after all.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:24:01am |
re: #175 lawhawk
In the future, everyone will be the antichrist for 15 minutes.
Unfortunately most of them waste it on the gnashing of teeth and bleeding genitals and never get around to the really fun stuff.
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:24:18am |
re: #175 lawhawk
In the future, everyone will be the antichrist for 15 minutes.
I thought that was a nazi?
So, we all get to be irredeemably evil for half an hour in our lives? Cool.
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Barb42 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:25:02am |
Sorry to disappoint you guys, but most of the conservatives I know like to mess with the pollsters and screw up the idiotic, simplistic questions that mean little in the end. If someone called me and asked if Obama was the Antichrist - I would have laughed and said 'yes'. Not because I thought so, but because I have such disdain for pollsters and their poorly phrased questions. This means nothing at all. As for horns and pointy ears on pictures - darn right. Its about having a sense of humor in the midst of a nasty political fight - not some sort of antichristism. I would advise dropping the 'birthers', 'thuthers' and what ever 'thers name calling you can dream up. Its a poor way to argue a point and sounds more than a bit unsophisticated.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:25:14am |
re: #186 calcajun
I thought that was a nazi?
So, we all get to be irredeemably evil for half an hour in our lives? Cool.
I like to spread it out, 30 seconds here, a minute there, really gives you a chance to savor the moments
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J.S. Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:25:17am |
And, what is the etymology of the term "nibs" ? ?
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SpaceJesus Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:25:18am |
did you know "president obama" is an anagram for A Bad Pie Monster?
dun dun duuunnn
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:25:32am |
re: #185 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
gnashing of teeth and bleeding genitals .
Please, tell me those are not part of the same activity.//
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ointmentfly Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:26:35am |
Obama can't be that anti christ unless there are 2. Somebody needs to poll whether Jimmy Carter ISN'T the antichrist...
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:26:41am |
re: #191 SpaceJesus
did you know "president obama" is an anagram for A Bad Pie Monster?
dun dun duuunnn
Is there a Plan 10 from outer space? Hmmm.
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subsailor68 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:26:42am |
OT, but had to drive into the big city this morning, and got caught in really crappy traffic - backed up forever. Started to get steamed, then remembered something a great old friend used to yell in similar situations:
"That's it lemmings! Bunch up!"
Made me laugh...felt much better.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:26:51am |
re: #3 Baier
Crazy, but if you ask that about Bush I bet it would be even higher.
How can it be Bush? He left office, and is no longer ruling over us.
HAS anyone asked it about Bush? I'd be interested to see results.
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Danny Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:26:54am |
OK I just researched this issue: Wikipedia's "Antichrist" entry contains no mention of Obama, and Snopes.com's "Obama as Anti-Christ" article says False.
MYTH BUSTED
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:27:02am |
re: #182 turn
Whoa, 71% of the people truly believe in the devil if you can trust Fox:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
That surprised the hell out of me (no pun intended).
Makes sense, actually. In that there are at least that many Christians, Jews and 'others" that beleive in a God, they also all beleive there's a devil
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jill e Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:27:04am |
Be interested in the poll that asked who thinks Obama is God.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:27:11am |
re: #184 figgles
Wait a minute ... a phone poll? Puh-leaze. I don't how many times I messed with stupid phone polls. It reminds me of Carl Sagan explaining an exotic island's inhabitant's reaction to a stranger asking them where babies come from. It's very likely the inhabitant will give a silly answer... and this is New Jersey, after all.
Perhaps the pollsters misunderstood the answers they got.
"Quit callin' me, you friggin' testa di cazzo...click"
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:27:18am |
Since I'm on a roll with these google searches, here's a few more:
Hitler antichrist: 5.3 million
Hitler antichrist - obama: 3.6 million
Hitler antichrist -bush: 2.6 million
Hitler antichrist without bush or obama: 2.01 million
The same caveats apply as before - links could include postings that debunk any such discussion.
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DaddyG Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:28:00am |
re: #135 lawhawk
We ran the search a while back.
You have to run the search for bush antichrist without obama. 556,000 hits.
The reverse, obama antichrist -bush yields... 7,100,000 hits.
Bear in mind that many of those hits include debunking of same, but that's a staggering difference. Seriously WTF.
Can you put date parameters on it so that the search looks for hits within the same date range for each presidency? I suspect recency may have an effect.
But there is no doubt that the religious right has their particular memes.
As for the memes of the left...
Bush torture, Bush war crimes will probably get a better result than Obama torture, Obama war crimes.
I'm guessin.
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:28:23am |
re: #178 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Confesss, dont be boring!
Say yesss, don't be DULL!
A fact you're ignoring
It's better to lose your skull cap than you skull
Oi oi gevald!
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Danny Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:28:34am |
There's a new blog entry, but this one's too much fun to leave.
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:28:36am |
re: #198 Danny
OK I just researched this issue: Wikipedia's "Antichrist" entry contains no mention of Obama, and Snopes.com's "Obama as Anti-Christ" article says False.
MYTH BUSTED
AHHH man, I just made up the new signs for the next rally! Ugh! Now I have to change them back to just plain old' Obama SUCKS again.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:28:53am |
"Damien" and "Barack" have the same amount of letters!!!
*cue dramatic Omen music*
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jaunte Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:29:00am |
I think the real Anti-Christ would be much more popular than Obama.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:29:23am |
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Desert Dog Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:29:50am |
re: #208 jaunte
I think the real Anti-Christ would be much more popular than Obama.
The Anti-Christ would not support the public option too...even he knows it would not work.
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turn Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:30:04am |
re: #199 sattv4u2
Makes sense, actually. In that there are at least that many Christians, Jews and 'others" that beleive in a God, they also all beleive there's a devil
Yes it does. I'm not religious but I had no idea that all religious people actually believed in the devil.
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:30:32am |
re: #208 jaunte
I think the real Anti-Christ would be much more popular than Obama.
He could do cool things, like vaporize people with his eyes...or is that Brian Boitano?
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turn Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:30:48am |
re: #200 jill e
Be interested in the poll that asked who thinks Obama is God.
haha, that would really be something.
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:31:00am |
re: #210 SpaceJesus
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
Dang, the ICC is going to come knocking any moment now.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:31:07am |
We know Hilary's not the anti-Christ. She chose a Journey song for her capaign theme. The real AC would have used Danzig, Black Sabbath or Rick Astley.
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:31:31am |
re: #212 turn
Yes-- we do. Otherwise, there was no point for that nice Jewish carpenter to get nailed to a tree.
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turn Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:32:02am |
re: #204 calcajun
A fact you're ignoring
It's better to lose your skull cap than you skull
Oi oi gevald!
Hel there cal, the turnwife is down your way today. She's in Corronado.
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Leonidas Hoplite Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:32:05am |
re: #216 Mad Al-Jaffee
We know Hilary's not the anti-Christ. She chose a Journey song for her capaign theme. The real AC would have used Danzig, Black Sabbath or Rick Astley.
or Justin Timberlake
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:32:05am |
You don't have to be an ACORN cell leader or an MSNBC leg-tingler to see a racial angle in this either.
To garden-variety bigots, there would be something strange, unnatural, and frankly challenging about a black man this smart and this powerful. This would be reinforced by the fever swamp's speculation about his background. If the bigot is a hard-core Bible thumper, as many are, it is just a short jump to supernatural intervention as a likely explanation.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:33:04am |
re: #74 Mad Al-Jaffee
"You know there ain't no devil, that's just god when he's drunk"
-Tom Waits
What a sad line.
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Skinless Frank Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:33:54am |
Oh, come off it, Charles. I'm sure that if you asked, 8% of the public would say that I or anyone else is the Antichrist; maybe even themselves. You can find 8% who will agree with any nonsense you could make up. On balance, this is a good thing. It tells us that the supply of chumps is still adequate for the rest of us to prey upon and make a living.
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:34:06am |
re: #203 DaddyG
You can put date ranges on it with the advanced search features, but don't have the time to play with that right now.
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avanti Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:35:34am |
Nate Silver weighs in on the poll about doctors opposing the heath care plan. In a nutshell, it's BS.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:36:15am |
>re: #221 SanFranciscoZionist"You know there ain't no devil, that's just god when he's drunk"
-Tom Waits
What a sad line.Sometimes Tom waits but noone laughs.
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jill e Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:36:50am |
re: #212 turn
Yes it does. I'm not religious but I had no idea that all religious people actually believed in the devil.
Good vs. Evil...somebody has to take the Evil part.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:37:19am |
re: #123 bofhell
I'd like to have something clarify please?
Is there a GOOD crazy? If so, can you point me towards it please...
Mardi Gras.
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turn Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:37:42am |
Whoa, somebody is going to get whacked in the next thread.
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:38:08am |
re: #218 turn
gorgeous day for it, too. Nice and cool.
OK-- I want to get away from the desk; these manacles are starting to chafe.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:38:13am |
re: #128 midwestgak
Anti-mother
How about the woman who stabbed her 3 and 5 year old children, then stabbed herself today? Where does that rank?
Julie Burchill was voted Worst Mother In Britain in some poll, which I think was quite unfair.
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turn Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:38:41am |
re: #229 calcajun
gorgeous day for it, too. Nice and cool.
OK-- I want to get away from the desk; these manacles are starting to chafe.
me too, bbl
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:40:11am |
re: #148 sattv4u2
"He's" supposed to come here resembling Christ to decieve us
Which indicates a certain amount of arrogance on the part of those who don't like him. What makes them so special that they aren't taken in?
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bofhell Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:40:18am |
re: #227 SanFranciscoZionist
I am hard pressed to disagree. We need to upgrade Purim...
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:41:18am |
re: #222 Skinless Frank
Oh, come off it, Charles. I'm sure that if you asked, 8% of the public would say that I or anyone else is the Antichrist; maybe even themselves. You can find 8% who will agree with any nonsense you could make up. On balance, this is a good thing. It tells us that the supply of chumps is still adequate for the rest of us to prey upon and make a living.
But that does not explain the result that the rates of stated belief are significantly higher, almost double, among Republicans than among Dems.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:43:23am |
re: #212 turn
Yes it does. I'm not religious but I had no idea that all religious people actually believed in the devil.
We don't.
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medaura18586 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:44:59am |
5% of liberals aren't sure. Go figure!
This whole thing is insane. And I'm sure there are much wackier states than Jersey.
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Gus Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:46:33am |
re: #202 lawhawk
Since I'm on a roll with these google searches, here's a few more:
Hitler antichrist: 5.3 million
Hitler antichrist - obama: 3.6 million
Hitler antichrist -bush: 2.6 million
Hitler antichrist without bush or obama: 2.01 millionThe same caveats apply as before - links could include postings that debunk any such discussion.
Antichrist - Bush: 1,460,000
Antichrist - Obama: 2,300,000
And we're just approximately 9 months into Obama's 4 years.
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Fart Knocker Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:50:09am |
Charles,
Your posted pic for this thread shows Obama with horns. That means the tea-partier is equating him with the Devil, not the Anti-Christ.
Just sayin.
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Fart Knocker Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:50:38am |
re: #236 medaura18586
5% of liberals aren't sure. Go figure!
This whole thing is insane. And I'm sure there are much wackier states than Jersey.
Really?
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calcajun Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:05:13pm |
re: #236 medaura18586
And I'm sure there are much wackier states than Jersey.
It's why us folks from Louisiana are so appreciative of the Garden State.//
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Claire Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:05:23pm |
Is there a denomination out there actually pushing this idea? Anybody know?
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cliffster Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:08:25pm |
re: #191 SpaceJesus
did you know "president obama" is an anagram for A Bad Pie Monster?
dun dun duuunnn
Also - "Entomb Paradise" uh oh..
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shifty Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:19:52pm |
The only honest answer is 3 because what if you're the anti-christ but don't know that you're the anti-christ yet? Kind of like that movie Unbreakable with Superman.
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sardonic Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:30:05pm |
re: #240 oh_dude
So what's worse? Right-wing kooks or Left-wing kooks?
There are no Left-wing kooks anymore. And if you're on the right ... you're a kook.
"... survey shows that a significant number of New Jersey voters believe ..."
Must not that be that significant since he won the state last November. But wait! Chris Christie, the Republican, is leading incumbent Democrat Jon Corzine, and may actually unseat him - even though Obama came to New Jersey to speak at a rally for Corzine a few months ago. Yep, bad craziness indeed.
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dwill890 Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:52:46pm |
Please allow me to research Nostradamus,
hhmmm! I am not seeing this, or really care!
I think i'll go fishing...
All the best
Dave
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TheAntichrist Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:36:39pm |
Now, now , now... I'm much too modest to be a Superstar.
Wut?
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Charles Johnson Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:25:21pm |
Again and again, the long dramatic post full of insults, deleted within minutes.
I have no idea why they waste their time. I don't even read these things. As soon as I see where it's going it's gone.
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