1 | freetoken Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:17:43pm |
Volleyball... reminds me of the Brazilian women's team...
2 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:18:34pm |
I'm going to go to bed now. Good night, all. And Charles, thanks for running this blog. You don't get thanked enough for it, but you do a fine job.
3 | freetoken Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:18:37pm |
There are positives to Rio getting the Olympics...
7 | Canadian Guy Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:23:05pm |
QUOTE OF THE DAY
"You're husband's a stinkin' liar."
"Yeah!!! We're gonna run him out of office!!"
Yay!!!
8 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:23:25pm |
re: #3 freetoken
Three out of the nations that have hosted/will host the Olympics between 2008 and 2016 are from the BRIC faction.
10 | freetoken Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:26:29pm |
For those with short memories... the Brazilian Olympic Beach Volleyball team.
11 | freetoken Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:27:21pm |
re: #8 Fenway_Nation
Three of them are permanent members of the UNSC too...
12 | Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:28:32pm |
The Republican Party needs to stop fucking around and show who they are. And I don't mean being a nice guy. Have some freaking guts, have a take, a belief system and stick with it.
13 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:28:35pm |
re: #11 freetoken
Which one besides China and Russia?
19 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:32:00pm |
re: #15 Sharmuta
Certainly. I could watch those personalities interact all night.
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20 | Velvet Elvis Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:36:03pm |
Since Charles Got things started with the blues
Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown: Song for Renee
21 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:36:21pm |
re: #16 freetoken
Right...
I meant to say three of the five
Beijing- 2008
Vancouver, Canada- 2010
London- 2012
Sochi, Russia- 2014 (about 50 miles from the border w/Georgia)
Rio De Janeiro-2016
75% BRIC representation for the Olympics right there.
22 | Dancing along the light of day Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:37:32pm |
I think I've posted this before.
It's the 12/2007 humongous surf off Northern Ca.
It's amazing.
Yes, those little black things are people surfing.
[Link: www.surfline.com...]
23 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:37:48pm |
From the album Oceanic.
24 | Randall Gross Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:41:06pm |
Time for me to get some sleeps, but since we are on a blues theme tonight, here's a clash of cultures I can get behind:
25 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:46:21pm |
Time for another shameless bout of Blog pimpin'...
Not Another New England Sports Blog! The Blog That's Exactly What It Says it Isn't!
26 | Velvet Elvis Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:47:00pm |
re: #23 Slumbering Behemoth
From the album Oceanic.
That's the kind of shit I like to listen to for long distance driving. I'll have to look for them on Bittorrent
27 | The Left Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:48:58pm |
Ahoy, polloi!
I'm loving this whole new Ocean theme for the overnight.
What's up and how is everyone?
28 | Dancing along the light of day Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:49:02pm |
Goodnight, Lizards!
Have fun, play well together & above all, stay scaly!
29 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:50:40pm |
re: #28 Floral Giraffe
G'nite vinyl vole!
30 | Velvet Elvis Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:52:57pm |
re: #27 iceweasel
Ahoy, polloi!
I'm loving this whole new Ocean theme for the overnight.
What's up and how is everyone?
Looks like it's about dead. Are you in a different timezone or just a late nighter?
I got my ass handed to me in the last thread for being a DKos member. I survived.
31 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:52:58pm |
re: #26 Conservative Moonbat
Do as you like, but I say support good music (or music you like) and buy that shit. Hit a used record store.
32 | Surabaya Stew Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:54:15pm |
re: #21 Fenway_Nation
Right...
I meant to say three of the five
Beijing- 2008
Vancouver, Canada- 2010
London- 2012
Sochi, Russia- 2014 (about 50 miles from the border w/Georgia)
Rio De Janeiro-201675% BRIC representation for the Olympics right there.
Speaking of the other 25% of BRIC...when will India get the Olympic nod?
My guess is 2048, in either Delhi or Hyderabad!
33 | Velvet Elvis Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:54:39pm |
re: #31 Slumbering Behemoth
Do as you like, but I say support good music (or music you like) and buy that shit. Hit a used record store.
I won 't download anything I'm not willing to go see live if it's near me. I don't buy many albums but I see all the live music I can and buy stuff at the shows. They get more money that way anyway.
If I download them and like them, I'll look for them coming to my area.
34 | The Left Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:54:40pm |
re: #30 Conservative Moonbat
Looks like it's about dead. Are you in a different timezone or just a late nighter?
I got my ass handed to me in the last thread for being a DKos member. I survived.
I have strange sleep patterns, in addition to being in an undisclosed seekrit underground location.
The thread just downstairs? I would have pitched in to help you out. I'll go check it out.
35 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:00:11am |
re: #33 Conservative Moonbat
I get what you're saying, but if a recording label does not see a return on their investment, they are not likely to keep a band on contract producing albums.
And those recording companies don't normally do that shit for free for anyone less than a Super Star. If people don't buy a band's album, that band is often on the hook for the cost of the recording.
36 | Summersong Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:02:55am |
re: #30 Conservative Moonbat
Looks like it's about dead. Are you in a different timezone or just a late nighter?
I got my ass handed to me in the last thread for being a DKos member. I survived.
You're sure about that? Just for being a DKos member?
37 | Velvet Elvis Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:04:48am |
re: #35 Slumbering Behemoth
I get what you're saying, but if a recording label does not see a return on their investment, they are not likely to keep a band on contract producing albums.
And those recording companies don't normally do that shit for free for anyone less than a Super Star. If people don't buy a band's album, that band is often on the hook for the cost of the recording.
Even if you buy the albums at the shows? That's what I try to do since they get more money out of it that way. Most of the contemporary music I listen to is indie or self-produced though.
38 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:05:53am |
re: #32 Surabaya Stew
Full disclosure: I've never set foot in India, but isn't it so damn hot and humid throughout most parts of the country that hosting the Olympics really wouldn't be practical?
39 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:07:08am |
re: #36 Summersong
Certainly, there was a bit more to it than that.
Comment at your own risk, and take the lumps that come your way.
40 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:09:24am |
re: #30 Conservative Moonbat
I got my ass handed to me in the last thread for being a DKos member. I survived.
Maybe your inability to answer this fairly simple question of mine has something to do with it.
41 | Velvet Elvis Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:11:55am |
re: #36 Summersong
You're sure about that? Just for being a DKos member?
and for refusing to denounce one thing markos said two years before I even registered, something I don't feel I even have the standing to speak on. I hardly ever read him anyway.
42 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:12:15am |
re: #37 Conservative Moonbat
If the music you buy is independently produced, then it doesn't much matter where you buy it. You will get a better price if you buy direct, though.
I'm just not down with exploiting the bootleg market for free music. If you like a band, I think you should pay money for their product.
43 | Velvet Elvis Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:12:59am |
re: #40 Fenway_Nation
Maybe your inability to answer this fairly simple question of mine has something to do with it.
I did in a later response when I said I was leaving it up to other vets to judge him and I didn't think it was my place because I didn't have the life experience.
44 | Summersong Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:15:11am |
re: #41 Conservative Moonbat
and for refusing to denounce one thing markos said two years before I even registered, something I don't feel I even have the standing to speak on. I hardly ever read him anyway.
I thought that you said it was funny? Am I mistaken?
45 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:17:52am |
re: #43 Conservative Moonbat
Those Americans that were murdered, mutilated, incinerated and their charred corpses hung from a bridge were vets. I think your willingness to cover for Kos and try and find 'context' or 'proportion' for his childish, vapid, ghoulish little 'neener neener' dance is just as vile some five years on as it was when all the other darlings of the lefty blogosphere rushed to Kos' aid back then.
46 | Velvet Elvis Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:18:40am |
re: #44 Summersong
I thought that you said it was funny? Am I mistaken?
That was the A. Whitney Brown post. It left me agast, amazed, and totally cracking up because it was so obscene.
47 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:19:18am |
re: #41 Conservative Moonbat
and for refusing to denounce one thing markos said two years before I even registered
There was a bit more to it then that, CM. You gave Markos a pass for his disgusting comments, A.W. Brown a pass for his disgusting comments, and DKos in general a pass for their history of disgusting comments on the subject.
I would like to suggest you discontinue defending the indefensible.
48 | swamprat Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:22:05am |
C'mon lizards. Leave last posts' arguments behind. C M can wait a while.
49 | Summersong Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:24:04am |
CM himself brought it up on this thread. Just sayin'.
50 | Velvet Elvis Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:25:01am |
re: #45 Fenway_Nation
Those Americans that were murdered, mutilated, incinerated and their charred corpses hung from a bridge were vets. I think your willingness to cover for Kos and try and find 'context' or 'proportion' for his childish, vapid, ghoulish little 'neener neener' dance is just as vile some five years on as it was when all the other darlings of the lefty blogosphere rushed to Kos' aid back then.
So I have to be forced to judge this man, whom I've never met, on somthing he said two years before I joined his website?
I'm just not willing to pass judgement against him on that. I don't know him. I don't know his life experiences. I don't even know what he said when he meant it. I don't know if he'd say the same thing now as he'd say then. I frankly think it's absurd to expect every member of his website to be willing and able to pass judgement one way or the on the basis of this.
To be honest, I really don't care. It was a long time ago.
51 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:25:09am |
re: #48 swamprat
CM started mixing the batter for his martyr cookies on this thread- neither me, summer or slumbering brought it up.
52 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:25:45am |
re: #48 swamprat
I suppose you have a point, but C.M. brought the issue into this thread, and in a disingenuous way, IMO.
If C.M. will drop it for now, I will drop it for now.
53 | Velvet Elvis Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:27:42am |
I was just giving ice a recap of what had been going on. I didn't realize so many people were even still awake.
Forgive, I'll go to bed shortly.
54 | Velvet Elvis Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:28:07am |
re: #52 Slumbering Behemoth
I suppose you have a point, but C.M. brought the issue into this thread, and in a disingenuous way, IMO.
If C.M. will drop it for now, I will drop it for now.
deal
55 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:28:12am |
re: #50 Conservative Moonbat
Nobody's forcing you, but it speaks volumes about the company that you choose to keep.
56 | Surabaya Stew Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:28:21am |
re: #38 Fenway_Nation
Full disclosure: I've never set foot in India, but isn't it so damn hot and humid throughout most parts of the country that hosting the Olympics really wouldn't be practical?
That's an astute observation, and is the absolute truth! (Full disclosure: I visited Madras and Hyderabad in 2002 for about 1 week each; the climate change from the Coast to the Deccan plateau is quite extreme!) Which therefore disqualifies Bombay, Madras, and Calcutta as potential Olympic locations. Therefore an interior city like the capital of Delhi, or the 5th largest city of Hyderabad are the only realistic options.
A more serious problem with a sub-continental bid is that India would hardly win any medals (aside from Field Hockey), due to the low interest of sporting events throughout the country. Still though, it's an interesting idea that will come to fruition eventually; no matter how many decades it takes. Perhaps keeping up with the other BRIC nations will give India the kick in the pants needed to get its citizens enthusiastic about the Olympics someday.
57 | Canadian Guy Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:28:58am |
re: #50 Conservative Moonbat
To be honest, I really don't care. .
Hence the problem.
It's one thing to cheer the U.S. losing the Olympics (that's insane in my opinion), it's another thing to not be outraged by Americans being murdered and mutilated in Iraq. It's also more outrageous to hide behind the "well I wore the uniform" card to defend that position. That is all.
58 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:29:50am |
59 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:32:23am |
re: #56 Surabaya Stew
OK...that's along the lines of what I thought. Plus there's the ever-uncertain security situation in that part of the world as well.
60 | Velvet Elvis Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:33:28am |
Zappa --- Watermelon in Easter Hay
61 | Mauser Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:36:59am |
What would happen if you got all of the famous movie trailer voice artists in one limo?
63 | Surabaya Stew Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:39:51am |
re: #59 Fenway_Nation
OK...that's along the lines of what I thought. Plus there's the ever-uncertain security situation in that part of the world as well.
True that...true that!
64 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:40:51am |
re: #62 Canadian Guy
Fare thee well, gentleman of the Dominion north of the 49th parralell persuasion!
65 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:40:53am |
Well, I looked at that thread and I think it's a good idea to let the issue drop.
I'd say this: CM is right that Kos is pretty indispensible for many on the left as an organising hub, others are right that those diaries are indefensible, but again, reading some info from that site doesn't mean a person endorses everything that's been on it. We were all reading them during the fallout over the Iranian elections, remember, because they were one of the very few places that had up to date info. Charles was linking them. Doesn't mean an endorsement of everything ever on there. I think things got a little out of control over on that thread and CM deserves a little slack here.
My (likely unnecessary) 2 cents.
BTW, I'm significantly to CM's left. And not now or ever a member of Kos or a regular reader. It's easy to pigeonhole people, but rarely accurate.
66 | I Need A Bigger Gun Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:42:12am |
Okay, the shame is finally wearing off to the point where I can say that Alan Grayson is my representative. There, I said it...well, maybe the shame hasn't worn off yet. Damn...
67 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:43:36am |
re: #61 Mauser
HA! Were is that from? 1989?
68 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:43:37am |
re: #63 Surabaya Stew
Now that I think about it, I'd like to have President 0bama over for lunch sometime so I could serve up some satays or bakmi goereng. I'd like to think of it as a two-fer; tweaking the pres and the nirthers.
69 | freetoken Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:45:26am |
Typhoon Parma is landing in the Norther Philippines... hopefully our friend laZardo will hang tough.
Parma has a rather large area of heavy rainfall on its west side... not good for the Philippines.
70 | Surabaya Stew Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:52:10am |
re: #68 Fenway_Nation
Now that I think about it, I'd like to have President 0bama over for lunch sometime so I could serve up some satays or bakmi goereng. I'd like to think of it as a two-fer; tweaking the pres and the nirthers.
An excellent suggestion, but don't forget the beef (sapi) rendang!
71 | akarra Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:54:10am |
re: #27 iceweasel
I'm doing ok... glad you asked, wasn't quite sure how to get in on any conversations here.
I just finished skimming Real Clear Politics, and they linked to something from National Review entitled "Five Afghan War Excuses" that I wonder about. I wish I knew how serious the administration was on the issue; what I've heard from congressional Democrats (i.e. the ANA is fully capable of fighting and winning without any help except logistical) is a bit scary.
72 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:55:39am |
Has this been posted yet?
Glenn Beck using Vicks Vaporub to prep him for crying on cue:
This is for a photoshoot, but you can hear him saying "My eyes are getting used to this".
Quoth Nelson Munsen: Ha-Ha!
73 | theheat Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:56:34am |
re: #25 Fenway_Nation
Trains! Train pron! Now, it's a real blog.
75 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:03:05am |
re: #71 akarra
I'm doing ok... glad you asked, wasn't quite sure how to get in on any conversations here.
I just finished skimming Real Clear Politics, and they linked to something from National Review entitled "Five Afghan War Excuses" that I wonder about. I wish I knew how serious the administration was on the issue; what I've heard from congressional Democrats (i.e. the ANA is fully capable of fighting and winning without any help except logistical) is a bit scary.
hey akarra, what's up?
I just took a look at that Lowry article. I'm a bit out of the loop on the current hoo-ha over Afghanistan. My understanding is that McChrsytal wanted even more troops?--- But also that we were already on track to have double the deployment there by the end of Dec than we did last year. So I don't think the admin is weak or unserious on this issue AFAIK.
76 | Surabaya Stew Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:06:18am |
re: #25 Fenway_Nation
Time for another shameless bout of Blog pimpin'...
Not Another New England Sports Blog! The Blog That's Exactly What It Says it Isn't!
Hey, nice start to your blog; keep up the good work!
77 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:07:10am |
re: #74 theheat
OMG, what bullshit. Good find.
Well, I was excited and thought it was a good find, but it turns out that gawker caught the vid back in June-- the rest of the internets (crooks and liars, etc) are just now catching up.
This is better though: remember that piece Salon did on Beck's hero, Cleon Skousen? Charles linked it. MMFA did a follow up. Guess who is yet another white supremacist?
Fox News' Glenn Beck has heavily promoted the writings of far-right activist W. Cleon Skousen, even making Skousen's book, The 5000 Year Leap, a central part of his 9-12 Project. Skousen is the author of several controversial works, including The Making of America: The Substance and Meaning of the Constitution, which presented as "the story of slavery in America" a passage from a book that attacked abolitionists for delaying emancipation; cast slave owners as "the worst victims of the system"; claimed white schoolchildren "were likely to envy the freedom of their colored playmates"; and claimed that "[s]lavery did not make white labor unrespectable, but merely inefficient," because "the slave had a deliberateness of motion which no amount of supervision could quicken."
Shorter Skousen: the worst victims of slavery were the slaveowners.
Beck guru Skousen's "story of slavery" suggests slave owners were "worst victims of the system"
(apologies if this has already been mentioned too)
78 | akarra Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:09:51am |
re: #75 iceweasel
Fair enough. I'm of the opinion that while I don't want right-wing crazies to go too far with pressing the administration on the issue, I do want to see it be a concern generally and things like a "let's just target al-Qaeda only" plan - things that seem to emphasize counterterrorism ops without counterinsurgency be rightfully attacked.
80 | theheat Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:12:03am |
re: #77 iceweasel
I don't remember who, but someone included Skousen's comments about the plight of slave owners in one of their posts a day or two ago. I think they were quoting the source, also.
The whole thing makes you shake your head, that people are so happy to look the other way about Beck and his ilk. Beck is a pasty-faced ranting racist doughboy that cries on cue, that surrounds himself with like-minded crazies, and lives by and promotes the word of crazies. Gee, what's not to like?
81 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:12:08am |
OK, after a discussion last week about caps lock keys and crappy computer keyboards in general, I got inspired to order a Unicomp Customizer 104 to replace my mushy, annoying Dell POS that came with my machine. This keyboard is identical to the Lexmark IBM Model M that dominated the market for years, and is still widely available in the used market because they simply don't ever break.
Suddenly, I enjoy typing again. The keys are well-spaced and have over an eighth of an inch of travel. And it's loud - the keys make a distinct clicking noise when pressed (although there's not any distinct resistance felt); this is a good thing, since a click means you actually typed something, and lack of a click means you didn't. The caps lock key is well separated from the rest of the keys, so you can't hit it accidentally. And the entire keyboard has a slight concave curve to it, which makes it easier to "locate" the keys, as do the sharp edges on the keys themselves.
Plus, it weighs like five pounds. You could stun an ox with this thing.
A bit pricey at $70, but there are Model Ms over twenty years old that are still going strong.
Whoever it was that complained about their caps lock key being pressed accidentally - this is the keyboard for you.
They also make a "quiet" version. I don't see the point.
82 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:13:03am |
re: #72 iceweasel
That's from a GQ Magazine photo shoot in June, I believe.
"The crying was my idea, and Glenn was cool with trying it," Greenberg says. "We used mentholated balm to make his eyes tear up naturally. From then on it was acting on his part. He had fun with it and was a great sport."
83 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:14:16am |
re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth
That's from a GQ Magazine photo shoot in June, I believe.
Yup! That Jill (?) greenberg chick is the one who took those pics of McCain and retouched them to make him look like a vampire, IIRC.
84 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:18:44am |
re: #80 theheat
I don't remember who, but someone included Skousen's comments about the plight of slave owners in one of their posts a day or two ago. I think they were quoting the source, also.
The whole thing makes you shake your head, that people are so happy to look the other way about Beck and his ilk. Beck is a pasty-faced ranting racist doughboy that cries on cue, that surrounds himself with like-minded crazies, and lives by and promotes the word of crazies. Gee, what's not to like?
Ah, figures. I've been out of the loop for the last few days, really. The MMFA article is from the 30th.
I guess I'm stunned at just how many white supremacist associations there seem to be on the right. Look at all the ones Charles has uncovered. I knew about Malkin and VDARE, but I guess for me the real eyeopener was that the entire wingnutsphere seems to have chosen to support RSM as their excuse to make a formal attack on LGF and a formal break with Charles. RSM, of all people. It's mindboggling.
The entire right side of the blogosphere seems to have collapsed into teh fever swamps.
85 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:18:50am |
re: #73 theheat
Arigato...I'm debating whether or not to make it a daily thing.
I'd like to incorporate some of my own work into the Train of Thought, but precious few images I've taken are digitized.
(stubborn 35mm holdout).
86 | theheat Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:19:25am |
re: #81 SixDegrees
That's a sessy keyboard. I like the old style keyboards. I tried a few of those ergonomic ones and never could get used to them, plus they were all fairly lightweight crap. I bashed one of them to bits, I hated it so much, if I recall.
The one I'm using now is an old HP I pulled out of the bargain bin at a retro computer recycling store. It's full sized, heavy, noisy, it's slightly curved, and the keys are very predictable with just the right degree of play and firmness. Unfortunately, I've worn half the type off the keys. And it's filthy.
I go through keyboards so fast I can't justify spending a whole lot on them. But this one I picked up for $10 and had more than a year, and it's a great one. When I replace I'd like to find another exactly like it.
87 | theheat Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:21:28am |
re: #85 Fenway_Nation
Find me a large image w/no copyright restrictions and maybe I can customize it for you as a masthead.
"It's what I do. It's all I do."
88 | freetoken Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:21:41am |
What's this, citizens of a country that lost a bid for the Olympics are actually sad that they lost? What is this world coming to?
89 | theheat Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:26:03am |
re: #84 iceweasel
The entire right side of the blogosphere seems to have collapsed into teh fever swamps.
But if you think about it, you could see it coming. I mean, they have honed and focused like a laser to separate themselves as far from the left and center as possible. When you push something this much in one direction or another, it's reduced to its most basic essence, whether it's communism or fascism. Anyone that straddles the center line, or goes a little left or right, is thrown under the bus.
90 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:29:31am |
re: #83 iceweasel
Yeah, I see you sussed that out before I made my post. It was talked about a little bit here.
92 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:31:39am |
re: #89 theheat
But if you think about it, you could see it coming. I mean, they have honed and focused like a laser to separate themselves as far from the left and center as possible. When you push something this much in one direction or another, it's reduced to its most basic essence, whether it's communism or fascism. Anyone that straddles the center line, or goes a little left or right, is thrown under the bus.
Oh absolutely. I've been an observer of them for a few years now. Even I'm shocked though at how rapidly and completely the wingularity has arrived.
This punchy term nicely captures the way that rightwing argumentation has become gradually detached from independently recognized reality and into a state of total unselfawareness. The pace of change is also accelerating. Just weeks before the election I never could guess that wingnuts would organize nationally around an act that they call teabagging. Imagine being the traveler from the future of three months hence trying to convince Americans of our semantically awkward future. How would you even start?
Thanks to the magic of talk radio and the internet, these guys can talk to no-one but each other for extremely long stretches of time, so they have no idea how crazy they sound. The time could come in the very near future when it becomes totally impossible for any ordinary person to have any idea what they are talking about. They will be beyond ordinary logic, beyond spoof. The wingularity will have arrived.
93 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:32:50am |
re: #90 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah, I see you sussed that out before I made my post. It was talked about a little bit here.
Yeah, I missed it. Found the vid at Crooks and Liars before I knew about the gawker coverage or the backstory. Oh well. It's still funny!
94 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:40:25am |
re: #91 theheat
Not enough Vick's Vapo-Rub.
95 | ryannon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:42:13am |
re: #23 Slumbering Behemoth
From the album Oceanic.
Already posted in your general link on top, but I can't say enough good about Sigur Ros. If you like Isis, I'd think you'd really appreciate this Icelandic group with a worldwide following:
96 | theheat Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:42:37am |
re: #94 Fenway_Nation
Or salt. Or Tabasco sauce. Or garlic. Or jalapenos.
Great. Now I'm getting hungry.
97 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:53:07am |
re: #96 theheat
Or salt. Or Tabasco sauce. Or garlic. Or jalapenos.
With a Vick's Vapo-Rub chaser?
/pineapple screwdriver and Bacardi & coke are duking it out to see which one can slake my thirst most effectively.
98 | theheat Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:58:24am |
re: #97 Fenway_Nation
Well if you rub any of that in your eyes, you're gonna cry.
I don't drink the hard stuff much any more. But I do love my Guinness Stout. The darker the better. I like stuff so thick you practically have to stir it with a spoon.
But when the occasion calls for it, I make a wicked Bloody Mary.
99 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:09:34am |
100 | freetoken Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:14:21am |
Well, I see VDH has a new column up at PJM (to which I will not link)...
He goes overboard in appealing to the revanchists. Frankly, VDH is now writing "essays" which are no more than assemblages of populist talking points.
E.g., he goes on (and on) about oil... mentioning four states in which he wants drilling... only problem for VDH is that he doesn't about that which he is writing... or else he wouldn't have put the "Dakotas" in that list.
101 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:14:48am |
Query...
For the most part, people contently wait in line at Wal-Mart to buy their Wal-Crap. People contently wait in line at the grocery store to buy their groceries. People contently wait in line at McDonald's to buy their McShit.
Yet when it comes to the Post Office, most people turn into bitching, crying special snow-flake princesses if they have to wait in line for more than three seconds for what they want.
WTF is up with that?
102 | centaur Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:16:32am |
Good morning. Could not sleep. Coffee on, listening to the King of the Surf Guitar -- that'll wake me up.
theheat: Guinness is my favorite too. Have you tried Smithwicks? Very good too.
103 | centaur Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:21:31am |
re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth
I love Wal-Mart. McD's, not so much. Post office? Works okay, unless it's important/work related, then I use UPS--or PDF if and email.
104 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:21:51am |
re: #95 ryannon
Thanks for the link. It's cool, but I am just not feeling it. No rhyme nor reason, I'm just a weird fucker when it comes to what I like musically. I can't even tell you why I like the music I do, other than to say "I just do".
105 | theheat Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:21:52am |
re: #102 centaur
No, never had a Smithwicks. Is it domestic US or imported?
106 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:23:37am |
re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth
Because they're running late for standing in line for their Wal-Crap and Crap McNuggets?
/Certain grocery stores are much worse than the Post Office, IMHO. I'm pretty sure these are union grocery stores, too.
107 | centaur Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:23:44am |
re: #105 theheat
Oh, it's Irish. Kind of a "light" Guinness, if that makes sense. Tasty. It's in more and more bars lately on draft -- check it out.
108 | ryannon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:26:17am |
re: #104 Slumbering Behemoth
Thanks for the link. It's cool, but I am just not feeling it. No rhyme nor reason, I'm just a weird fucker when it comes to what I like musically. I can't even tell you why I like the music I do, other than to say "I just do".
That's quite all right - no problem.
The important thing is to share - no accounting for taste, though.
109 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:27:09am |
re: #103 centaur
I get all that. I just don't get why most people, who are normally content to wait in line for just about any other service, suddenly become so cranky and hostile when they have to do the exact same thing at the Post Office.
I don't get it, it's not at all comparable to the bureaucratic nonsense one might have to put up with at the DMV. You ask for what you want, they tell you what it costs, you pay them, you get it. Same as any other retailer.
110 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:30:21am |
re: #108 ryannon
The important thing is to share - no accounting for taste, though.
I couldn't agree more, on both counts.
111 | centaur Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:33:15am |
re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth
Selective outrage. Maybe they complain because it's run by the gov. and makes an easy target pile on.
Or maybe because there's no pay off. Waiting in line for that Whopper and fired has a reward, waiting in line to buy that new digital camera or whatnot from Wal-Mart is worth the wait ... but sending a package, let it be over and done with.
Likely, both.
113 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:34:43am |
re: #100 freetoken
Well, I see VDH has a new column up at PJM (to which I will not link)...
He goes overboard in appealing to the revanchists. Frankly, VDH is now writing "essays" which are no more than assemblages of populist talking points.
E.g., he goes on (and on) about oil... mentioning four states in which he wants drilling... only problem for VDH is that he doesn't about that which he is writing... or else he wouldn't have put the "Dakotas" in that list.
VDH, quite honestly, has been doing that sort of thing for a while now. The good and fair post he did about LGF was essentially an anomaly.
114 | freetoken Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:38:42am |
re: #113 iceweasel
VDH, quite honestly, has been doing that sort of thing for a while now.
He seems to be "mailing it in" these past couple of years... maybe he is tired of actually doing research and is in retirement, in practice, but keeps up his publicity to get folk to sign up for his Mediterranean cruises.
115 | centaur Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:45:14am |
re: #113 iceweasel
He makes a good point though about Obama not wanting to be identified as a "Chicago" politician--esp. with Rezko and shady real estate rumors vis-a-vis the Olympics. For that stuff though I read John Kass, and go to VDH for ancient military history.
116 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:46:41am |
re: #111 centaur
Selective outrage. Maybe they complain because it's run by the gov. and makes an easy target pile on.
I think that's it. I just find it strange that waiting in one line for certain goods/services you want is cool, but waiting in another line for other goods/services that you want is unacceptable.
People are strange.
I guess I am just venting because I had some business to attend to today at the local Post Office, and I had a variety of people all around me, practically standing right up my ass, bitching about the line. Bitching about other things that they would otherwise accept anywhere else.
117 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:50:28am |
re: #114 freetoken
He seems to be "mailing it in" these past couple of years... maybe he is tired of actually doing research and is in retirement, in practice, but keeps up his publicity to get folk to sign up for his Mediterranean cruises.
That's my sense too. That he's been mailing it in for a couple of years now and basically writes what he knows will work for those readers.
He's not a total sell-out, or he would have joined in on the Wingnut War Dance over LGF, but he's not really engaged.
118 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:52:28am |
re: #100 freetoken
Since you didn't bother linking the article, I don't get what your beef is. Are you objecting to the use of 'the Dakotas' as a singlular state or saying that there's no oil to be had in the Dakotas?
119 | freetoken Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:53:23am |
re: #117 iceweasel
There comes a time in many peoples' lives, from what I gathered, when they just want to be turned out to pasture. It happens at a variety of ages - for some in their 50's they are ready to spend all day on the golf course, while others like to work well into their 70's, or 80's.
If VDH has reached a point in his life where he no longer wants to research the topic in which he is interested - well, fine by me. If so, then Victor, go hit the golf courses.
121 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:55:47am |
re: #120 Bagua
No...and I just finished updating my blog.
Not Another New England Sports Blog! Now with 33% More Train p0rn!
122 | freetoken Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:55:59am |
re: #118 Fenway_Nation
Charles does not want links to PJM here...
On the Dakotas... what VDH is selling is some more grievance theatre to the revanchists, about how mean old government is preventing oil exploration and development... and he lists a handful of states.
Unfortunately for VDH's grievance claims, there is plenty of oil drilling in the Dakotas and there has been for a long time! Drilling in the Dakotas is controlled by the economics of oil exploration, not those mean nasty environmentalists.
123 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:58:23am |
124 | Bagua Sat, Oct 3, 2009 2:59:33am |
Right.. then let me my report post in parts, and more...
Bagua can confirm that the world is a strange and wondrous place,
and Texas is even stranger... the world is also a cruel place,
a beautiful place, and more…
Much can happen in 24 hours...
125 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:00:19am |
126 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:00:31am |
re: #122 freetoken
Right- I remember CNN comparing some of the new money from the oil revenues to the Beverly Hillbillies. I can also think of at least three railways that are making some serious money hauling inbound drilling and exploration equipment and outboud crude for refining in the NW corner of North Dakota or NE corner of Montana whereas previously they were just content to haul grain and sugarbeets or just pass through on their way from the Twin Cities to Seattle.
Mean old government and whackjob environmentalists are more applicable to offshore drilling, IMHO.
127 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:06:02am |
re: #125 Slumbering Behemoth
Hell no- Took me three attempts just to get the name of the town spelled correctly.
/I mean...what the hell kind of name isBed-ford?
128 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:10:03am |
re: #127 Fenway_Nation
Ha! But you did fix it. Just trying to be helpful, as I'm sure you know.
130 | freetoken Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:12:04am |
re: #126 Fenway_Nation
Mean old government and whackjob environmentalists are more applicable to offshore drilling, IMHO.
Even there it is more NIMBYism than anything else. In Florida, whose western coastal areas contain likely natural gas deposits (though probably not much oil, according to the US govt), it is the Floridians who don't want to see rigs off their shores. BTW, we currently has a glut of natural gas here in the US, which has driven the price way down and subsequently drilling has decreased.
In California there has been, and continues to be, oil drilling in the central part of the state, where much oil has been produced. The offshore area from LA to Santa Barbara is known, from past drilling, to likely to have small deposits of relatively easy to access (for underwater sources) oil, but it is the people of those counties who really don't want the drilling off-shore and in this case (unlike Florida) the wells really would be close to shore.
The only place I know of where there is a reasonable shot of finding a meaningful domestic source of oil (according to the USGS and the MMS), whose access is also being fought by a united "environmentalist" front against the wishes of the locals, is in ANWR.
132 | Bagua Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:14:11am |
Part I:
Having jousted with an errant – but well meaning Knight: (Quixote)
Our tilting interrupted by the Black Knight Salamantis.
With appearance Dark Raven in the form of Falcon.
The hour was late, and ponderous matters left unsettled,
On the seemly, sad uncertain, of the dead thread… alive… uncertain.
Shattered was the Nights Plutonium Shore, by an electrical storm
Of strange frequency and duration. For thirty minutes or more
Never more than two seconds between flashes, and often three strikes Per second, or more,
Not the tame heat lightning of the normal world this came with thunder, Rain, and more. Just after Dark Raven said: Nevermore.
One imagines storms on Venus, some hell where life could live,
But nevermore
Some hot hell of sauna gasses, a future hell, if real, comes faster
The weather truly did grow frightening, lasting, strongly long the flashing
Retreating back into my chamber turning
All my soul within me burning
Dreaming dreams no warming skeptic ever dreamed before.
Thrilled me, filled me with fantastic weather never seen before.
But the thunder gave no freetoken, and Ice remained unbroken
The storm had past, Bagua unbroken, soon clocked the air had cooled,
Entry to the ever vigilant Journal, a valid data point, jotting, fine tuning
Noting, and nothing more.
Cast upon my silken sad uncertain, rustling of mouse clicks uncertain,
Googling deep into the net staring, let me this mystery explore.
Thus my fancy turned to smiling...
It is but a thunder, lightnin’ rapid, some tropical anomaly,
Flashing beyond my chamber door, some strongly flashing
Strobe beyond my open door, no warming demon this,
This it is, a stately storm and nothing more.
Soon again I heard a flapping, of a pet duck some beast was trapping,
Shrieking in pain, terror and more. Startled by the stillness broken
The tame ducks fed beyond my chamber door,
Some tame ducks upon the river, drying
Old friend cold Weasel had found before.
Here I opened wide my door. Horror there, happy house,
Nevermore.
133 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:26:00am |
BTW- exactly how crestfallen did Chicagoans look upon the IOC's announcement that the 2016 Summer Olympiad would be taking place elsewhere?
My first reaction was: The average Chicagoan is probably a Cubs fan- you think they'd be used to disappointment.
134 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:27:09am |
re: #129 Spare O'Lake
Morning, Spare of the freshwater aquatic body persuasion!
136 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:33:55am |
I like mixing fresh fruit with cottage cheese. Is it weird that I also like to liberally dust that mixture with black pepper?
/drunk eating
137 | Bagua Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:34:32am |
Part II:
Tempo changes:
It was a confusing sight at first, no fox, no Weasel,
A thin man shirtless, his jeans sagging revoltingly.
A beer in one hand.
Beside him a chubby girl holding a broom handle?
Unable to comprehend. No doubt his mate.
I saw the man kick the large while the white duck lay dying,
In the yard below me.
Confused I wondered, “Surely he found the duck wounded,
And is making short his suffering.
She said “Its still alive” its head on the cement path, body on the grass.
The man approached and stomped its head a dozen or more times.
The horror of such egregious violence shocked me into awareness
That it was a crime, not mercy.
A large tame duck, nearly a goose, no honor student, no child,
My mind thought of camera, none handy, and also of guns, then the phone
As the savage picked up the dead duck, its head shattered and mangled,
And the pair took off running and laughing before I could react on my high balcony.
Too late to shoot or film, I dialed: 411 (Bagua gets flustered)
Hearing the message I dialed again:
911 – and gave my report, precious seconds and I described their deeds
And guessed their likely escape route.
Then, against reason, chose to be citizen on patrol.
And set out into the darkness to stalk these savage freaks
I spotted the local PD, fast on scene, but typically,
On the wrong side of the river.
139 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:42:01am |
re: #130 freetoken
There has also been some recent excitement about the deeper parts of the Gulf of Mexico. Isn't there still a lot of optimism for many more GOM oil strikes to be reported in the next few years?
140 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:43:30am |
re: #137 Bagua
Too late to shoot or film, I dialed: 411 (Bagua gets flustered)
Hearing the message I dialed again:
911 – and gave my report, precious seconds and I described their deeds
And guessed their likely escape route.Then, against reason, chose to be citizen on patrol.
And set out into the darkness to stalk these savage freaks
I spotted the local PD, fast on scene, but typically,
On the wrong side of the river.
I'm still cracking up over these. Brilliant!
141 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:47:24am |
re: #134 Fenway_Nation
Morning, Spare of the freshwater aquatic body persuasion!
And the top of the morning to the green monster of the fen.
142 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:48:50am |
re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth
Bet it tastes even better coming back up
143 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:51:07am |
I get to go to a BBQ today. It is a sorta wake. My friend of 30 years was shot in Texas 4 weeks ago. I still have no details on what happened. My circle of friends, those who I have known forever, is shrinking. I consider myself young still. This was a guy who would never back down from a fight. And he would always be beside you if needed. Miss you, my friend.
144 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:52:44am |
re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth
I like mixing fresh fruit with cottage cheese. Is it weird that I also like to liberally dust that mixture with black pepper?
/drunk eating
Fruit salad with a scoop of peppered cottage cheese works for me too.
Not weird at all - I like fresh black pepper on almost anything.
145 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:52:45am |
re: #141 Spare O'Lake
Now that we have all these international players, I wonder if the 37ft left-field wall at Fenway can be translated into something with a more dramatic and flowery flourish than the Green Monster.
/How does one say 'Glorious Emerald Beast' in Japanese?
146 | freetoken Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:53:56am |
re: #139 Spare O'Lake
Yes... but I guess that shows my point: oil drilling is alive and well in the US and is principally limited by geology and economics, not that environmentalists are cordoning off the good stuff. See:
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]
Mexico btw has over the past couple of years been talking more and more about exploring their portion of the deep parts of the GOM. There is even a territorial dispute with the US that gained some notoriety last year. However, drilling in deep water is reported to be very expensive, and PEMEX doesn't have the funds to pursue deep water drilling on their own, so the Mexicans might, for the first time in many years, allow the international (private) oil companies do the deepwater discovery.
The takeaway from all of this: oil is a commodity whose production is controlled by economics, and the grievance theater for the revanchists has little merit (outside, as I mentioned earlier, ANWR.)
147 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:54:14am |
148 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:55:57am |
re: #147 Spare O'Lake
Oh lordy- it's a little early to be regurgitating the same old lame puns today, isn't it?
149 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:58:27am |
re: #143 Cannadian Club Akbar
I get to go to a BBQ today. It is a sorta wake. My friend of 30 years was shot in Texas 4 weeks ago. I still have no details on what happened. My circle of friends, those who I have known forever, is shrinking. I consider myself young still. This was a guy who would never back down from a fight. And he would always be beside you if needed. Miss you, my friend.
I'm so sorry. {CCA}
150 | Bagua Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:58:52am |
Part III:
After a troubled sleep, uneasy, uncertain
I headed to the laboratory as models need tweaking
And data sampling, and the endless lists of numbers.
Yet, the trailer trash escaped,
And I’m troubled that in this world there are great minds thinking
Moral minds debating, artistic minds creating, and also those
Whose pleasure lay in deviant pleasure, unpunished by my action.
The world was uncomfortable again,
Profession feels hollow, I’d prefer to walk the night with my own stick,
And see what I would find.
Uneasy I casualy scanned the music events listing,
And Friday closed into weekend,
I knew there was nothing important familiar with the latest paper.
Scanning without any intent or motive,
The smaller bars with unknown bands.
EEK - A - Mouse !!!
Impossible, I called, some unknown pub.
“Not the real one, from Jamaica?”
Some small venue, not an amphitheatre?
Plans change quickly in the living world.
MapQuest and “Cato, fire up the silver hornet.”
(Bagua is always late and often underestimates the task,
Addendum Parts to follow faster)
151 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:02:04am |
re: #148 Fenway_Nation
Oh lordy- it's a little early to be regurgitating the same old lame puns today, isn't it?
Yes, I agree, let's heave them over the side.
152 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:05:20am |
re: #151 Spare O'Lake
And let's make it a point not to hurl invectives at each other.
153 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:05:38am |
re: #145 Fenway_Nation
Now that we have all these international players, I wonder if the 37ft left-field wall at Fenway can be translated into something with a more dramatic and flowery flourish than the Green Monster.
/How does one say 'Glorious Emerald Beast' in Japanese?
IIRC that would be Godzilla.
154 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:07:53am |
For whats is worth my high skool football team is 4-0. My favorite college is 4-0. We play Syracuse today. I hope I didn't jinx it.
155 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:09:04am |
re: #153 Spare O'Lake
IIRC that would be Godzilla.
No no no! That would be 'Magnificent jade Creature'!
/
156 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:11:32am |
re: #152 Fenway_Nation
And let's make it a point not to hurl invectives at each other.
I will not bring up the matter again.
157 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:11:54am |
re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar
For whats is worth my high skool football team is 4-0. My favorite college is 4-0. We play Syracuse today. I hope I didn't jinx it.
I guess my english teacher was right. Me stoopid. Geez.
158 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:16:59am |
re: #155 Fenway_Nation
No no no! That would be 'Magnificent jade Creature'!
/
How about "Rizard in Reft"?
160 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:20:43am |
OK lizards- probably long past time for me to get some shuteye.
Weet dreams
(I can barley keep my eyes open!)
161 | Bagua Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:22:15am |
Part IV:
Fossil fuels flaring in the Ultimate Driving Machine®
The cool air filled with renewed hope, and change.
It’s never a good sign when One,
Speaks to the Police twice within 24 hours.
Bagua is also helpless in times of navigation,
Lost and entering on the wrong side of the city,
Unaware of highway exit. Could it be the Legend will be missed?
No where to turn around, meandering, cursing, fuming,
Weaving through the unfamiliar city… there’s Main street.
But it is a Texas street, long, windy, detours, bus lanes,
And horses!
Yes, horses, with policemen on top. A Texas Mounted Police,
Shining his flashlight nightstick at me, and muttering something,
Unintelligible to me. It was indeed words for me. Pull over,
His eagle eyes upon my window stickers.
(Bagua is also not so good at renewal taxes)
Yes, the Silver Hornet rampant, is being ticketed by a policeman on a horse,
Worse, he is so bewildered, and also pleased (and fearful)
Yet impossible to contain smiling and man and horse and street.
Things didn’t go so well, the hawk-eyed Old Bill sees evening,
And his horse smells everything.
“Are those other ID in your wallet?” So goes the drama.
No Mouse, rather rat’s in jail. Asked my age I get that wrong too,
(As I say, Bagua get’s flustered.)
Things are not going well, and the horse is very friendly and curious,
Sniffing my hand as I offer various IDs, sticking nose in car. “I travel and move a lot…”
“Gee, he never does that, must smell something sweet.
Have some candy?” Says the Ranger.
“Good grief, I think, I’ll never make the show now, (but what a story.)
162 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:22:44am |
re: #160 Fenway_Nation
OK lizards- probably long past time for me to get some shuteye.
Weet dreams
(I can barley keep my eyes open!)
Good night, I hops to see you agrain.
163 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:41:15am |
re: #139 Spare O'Lake
There has also been some recent excitement about the deeper parts of the Gulf of Mexico. Isn't there still a lot of optimism for many more GOM oil strikes to be reported in the next few years?
Sure. And rising costs make such exploration more attractive, as well as extraction.
164 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:50:10am |
Good Morning Lizards.
Serious multi-tasking here. Making Cinnamon Buns and brewing a batch of Cherry Wheat for the FL/GA Tailgate on Halloween (beer for the tailgate, the buns won't last past this weekend).
165 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:50:14am |
re: #163 SixDegrees
Sure. And rising costs make such exploration more attractive, as well as extraction.
But if we drill here we hate the enviroment or love big oil. I would drill in my back yard if I knew there was oil.
166 | Bagua Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:51:43am |
Part V:
The Ranger turns out to be a Knight,
Pleasant, professional, free to proceed.
Oh joy! As horse and man move away from the vehicle,
He turns and says, “Oh you can go.”
Still stunned and smiling “ I’m afraid to spook your horses.”
No worry, horse and man backup into the Main street,
And traffic is stopped so I can proceed.
“Thank you very much Officer.”
I think to myself, that was the finest officer I’ve been
Stopped by, (And I have a large data set spanning numerous
Nations)
It was a small club, impossibly small for the star it held,
An hour late! No Problem Jamaica. The Show had yet to start.
He was beyond belief, electric, yes, small crowd, yes,
Intimate, at times I too sang into the mike.
In fact the best show in living memory (mine)
And of course strange, after the show someone spoke to me in German,
‘Strange’ I thought, forgetting the Dutch on my T-Shirt back.
And I told Mouse my story of the Horse pull over car.
Thinking ‘he will think I’m a raving, “Is that the horse?” Says Mouse.
It’s there visible outside the door.
24 hours have now passed start to finish. And I am no wiser, yet vastly entertained.
My faith in the creative power of the universe and man restored.
fin
168 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:55:38am |
re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar
The cocktail party. Nice.
We aren't even going to the game, just got 4 tailgate spots for my squadron officers to hang out.
170 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:57:41am |
Speaking of barf:
Is Ahmadinejad trying to hide his Jewish roots by bashing Israel? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's scathing attacks against Israel and his repeated denials of the Nazi Holocaust could be motivated by a desire to conceal his own Jewish roots, an Iran expert told The Daily Telegraph on Saturday.
The British newspaper examined the Iranian leader's identity card which he displayed in public during his country's elections in March 2008.
The ID card bears his family's original surname, Sabourjian, which is a Jewish name that means cloth weaver, according to The Daily Telegraph.
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The Sabourjians have historically been concentrated in the same region of Iran where Ahmadinejad was born, according to the report.
Ahmadinejad's identity papers indicate that his family changed its name and converted to Islam after he was born, the British newspaper said.
Iranian observers suggested that the president's constant verbal assault against Israel and Jews may be an attempt to prove his loyalty to Shia Islam while making every effort to hide his Jewish past.
"This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him," Iranian studies expert Ali Nourizadeh told The Telegraph. "Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith."
"By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections," Nourizadeh said. "He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
171 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:57:46am |
172 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:58:10am |
173 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 4:59:11am |
174 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:05:01am |
175 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:07:52am |
I hate it when I have to call my cell phone just to realize it is sitting right next to me.
176 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:11:07am |
re: #170 Spare O'Lake
Speaking of barf:
Is Ahmadinejad trying to hide his Jewish roots by bashing Israel? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's scathing attacks against Israel and his repeated denials of the Nazi Holocaust could be motivated by a desire to conceal his own Jewish roots, an Iran expert told The Daily Telegraph on Saturday.
The British newspaper examined the Iranian leader's identity card which he displayed in public during his country's elections in March 2008.
The ID card bears his family's original surname, Sabourjian, which is a Jewish name that means cloth weaver, according to The Daily Telegraph.
AdvertisementThe Sabourjians have historically been concentrated in the same region of Iran where Ahmadinejad was born, according to the report.
Ahmadinejad's identity papers indicate that his family changed its name and converted to Islam after he was born, the British newspaper said.
Iranian observers suggested that the president's constant verbal assault against Israel and Jews may be an attempt to prove his loyalty to Shia Islam while making every effort to hide his Jewish past.
"This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him," Iranian studies expert Ali Nourizadeh told The Telegraph. "Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith."
"By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections," Nourizadeh said. "He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
Link to the Telegraph story: [Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
WTF - Ahmadinejad is a J...J...J... - oh forget it, I can't even say it!
177 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:13:46am |
Crap. I have to start drinking beer in 4 hours.
178 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:16:55am |
179 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:17:47am |
182 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:25:31am |
184 | Pianobuff Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:29:40am |
185 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:31:09am |
186 | Pianobuff Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:31:51am |
re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Go local sports team!
Not local, but a sentimental favorite. I don't root for any of the local teams here (LA).
187 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:32:58am |
re: #186 Pianobuff
Not local, but a sentimental favorite. I don't root for any of the local teams here (LA).
Go LSU!!! Maybe not.
188 | Pianobuff Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:33:51am |
re: #187 Cannadian Club Akbar
Go LSU!!! Maybe not.
Ooops on my part... LA = Los Angeles in this case.
189 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:38:31am |
re: #183 Pianobuff
Krauthammer on Iran: Obama's French Lesson
Krauthammer, as usual, is right on the money.
Obama is naive and worse than useless - so taken with the sound of his own voice that he thinks that the stench of his constant stream of bullshit will go undetected.
190 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:51:04am |
re: #183 Pianobuff
Krauthammer on Iran: Obama's French Lesson
When France chides you for appeasement, you know you're scraping bottom.
oh Lawdy...Obama is taking us to the edge
191 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:57:11am |
re: #190 HoosierHoops
I wonder how many have buyers remorse.
192 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:57:19am |
re: #190 HoosierHoops
Oh, lo'dy, lo'd, he's desp'it! Do what he sayyy, do what he sayyy!
-Blazing Saddles
193 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:58:37am |
But I do not blame him for Rio.
Let the kidnappings begin...
194 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:58:41am |
re: #191 Cannadian Club Akbar
I wonder how many have buyers remorse.
He keeps this crap up he'll be a one term prez..
195 | Ojoe Sat, Oct 3, 2009 5:58:56am |
re: #189 Spare O'Lake
From Krauthammer's article:
"At the time, we had no idea what Sarkozy was fuming about. Now we do. Although he could hardly have been surprised by Obama's fecklessness. After all, just a day earlier in addressing the General Assembly, Obama actually said, "No one nation can ... dominate another nation."
What a complete fucking moron Obama is.
I'm sorry, I'm trying to give Obama the benefit of the doubt but on the things that count the son of a bitch is probably going to get people killed.
Yes the right should not flip out about Obama, it distracts from the real objections to him that Krauthammer's article sets forth.
197 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:00:30am |
re: #195 Ojoe
From Krauthammer's article:
"At the time, we had no idea what Sarkozy was fuming about. Now we do. Although he could hardly have been surprised by Obama's fecklessness. After all, just a day earlier in addressing the General Assembly, Obama actually said, "No one nation can ... dominate another nation."
What a complete fucking moron Obama is.
I'm sorry, I'm trying to give Obama the benefit of the doubt but on the things that count the son of a bitch is probably going to get people killed.
Yes the right should not flip out about Obama, it distracts from the real objections to him that Krauthammer's article sets forth.
but, but... hope and change! Unicorns!
//
198 | Ojoe Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:03:20am |
199 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:03:36am |
re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But I do not blame him for Rio.
Let the kidnappings begin...
Good Morning...Reservations on AA for august 2016 to Rio are 917.00 round trip..Screw it...I'm going to the Olympics.. It would have been better to take the Train to Chicago with the boys and get trashed on the 4 hour ride to see a REAL OLYMPICS BASKETBALL GAME...I mean seriously...Trash talking somebody that doesn't understand english will be sweet.
/
200 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:04:33am |
I linked a story a few days ago... to lazy to find it now... that in Rio the kidnapping ransoms demanded are far less than in other parts of Brazil.
What a bargain!
201 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:05:47am |
re: #113 iceweasel
VDH, quite honestly, has been doing that sort of thing for a while now. The good and fair post he did about LGF was essentially an anomaly.
I don't think it was an anomaly at all. I read most of what VDH posts at NRO, and I find a lot of it is still well thought out and fair, but there's also stuff that I simply don't find at all interesting. I haven't read the article about drilling, unless it was on NRO in which case I've forgotten about it. What is the other site that you referred to and to which you didn't want to link?
202 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:05:51am |
re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I linked a story a few days ago... to lazy to find it now... that in Rio the kidnapping ransoms demanded are far less than in other parts of Brazil.
What a bargain!
Think I'll kidnap a smoking hot Latin girl...Wait..You didn't mean that...
204 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:06:48am |
205 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:07:17am |
re: #201 John Neverbend
What is the other site that you referred to and to which you didn't want to link?
Sorry, it was Freetoken, and I think I know the site.
207 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:08:35am |
re: #202 HoosierHoops
Think I'll kidnap a smoking hot Latin girl...Wait..You didn't mean that...
Well, they ain't Latin... I love this version...
208 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:10:33am |
How long before Obama, the left wing media & the Obama singers blame Bush for Chicago losing out on the Olympics?
209 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:11:46am |
re: #208 right_wing2
How long before Obama, the left wing media & the Obama singers blame Bush for Chicago losing out on the Olympics?
Boil an egg.
210 | Pianobuff Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:11:51am |
re: #208 right_wing2
How long before Obama, the left wing media & the Obama singers blame Bush for Chicago losing out on the Olympics?
I think there was already some of this yesterday.
211 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:12:23am |
re: #208 right_wing2
How long before Obama, the left wing media & the Obama singers blame Bush for Chicago losing out on the Olympics?
I expect that to happen today. They'll say we were rejected because the legacy of the Bush years. Buffoons.
212 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:12:31am |
re: #210 Pianobuff
I think there was already some of this yesterday.
On this board no less. World hates us, yadda yaddan teenage angst...
213 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:13:56am |
re: #207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, they ain't Latin... I love this version...
I have a buddy that tried to teach me that song on guitar...To freaking hard
I'll bet Charles can play it in his sleep...Pisses me off...
Dang guitarists!
/
214 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:14:41am |
re: #195 Ojoe
From Krauthammer's article:
"At the time, we had no idea what Sarkozy was fuming about. Now we do. Although he could hardly have been surprised by Obama's fecklessness. After all, just a day earlier in addressing the General Assembly, Obama actually said, "No one nation can ... dominate another nation."
What a complete fucking moron Obama is.
I'm sorry, I'm trying to give Obama the benefit of the doubt but on the things that count the son of a bitch is probably going to get people killed.
Yes the right should not flip out about Obama, it distracts from the real objections to him that Krauthammer's article sets forth.
The whole thing makes me cry. I wish Sarkozy could corner Obama and just yell at him for a few minutes to try to inject some sense into Obama.
I'm out. I'll probably be back tomrrow.
215 | Pianobuff Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:15:03am |
re: #212 rwdflynavy
On this board no less. World hates us, yadda yaddan teenage angst...
Burris supposedly already stated yesterday that because of Bush the US reputation was so tarnished that the IOCC wouldn't consider us.
216 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:15:44am |
re: #213 HoosierHoops
I have a buddy that tried to teach me that song on guitar...To freaking hard
I'll bet Charles can play it in his sleep...Pisses me off...
Dang guitarists!
/
He's a hippie. I sell him pot.
///
217 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:18:04am |
re: #208 right_wing2
Was probably a done deal before anybody even got to Copenhagen.
Rio's about as far from Middle Eastern Islamic Extremists as you can get.
I am thinking the IIOC is not thinking it is going to get better anytime soon.
218 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:18:41am |
re: #215 Pianobuff
Burris supposedly already stated yesterday that because of Bush the US reputation was so tarnished that the IOCC wouldn't consider us.
Burris is a crack head.. The reason really is that S. America has never hosted the Olympics.. We have hosted 8 games...4 summer..4 winter
It's only fair..
Congratulations Rio!
219 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:19:55am |
re: #217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Now, with Rio's... reputation as a party city, with topless beaches, will the Islamic world boycott? Or will extremist elements of Islam start committing violence there in order to bring Rio to the high moral standards expected by the Hammies, Hezzies & AlQui's?
220 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:20:31am |
I don't get why Florida hasn't gotten the winter games.
221 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:20:35am |
re: #122 freetoken
Drilling in the Dakotas is controlled by the economics of oil exploration, not those mean nasty environmentalists.
I read the article, and I agree with your point above, but I don't think VDH was disputing this. He was simply asking for greater government encouragement for the development of oil exploration and production of new fields in North Dakota. I assume that one such project would be the Bakken Shale, the announcement of which came out in April 2008.
222 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:20:59am |
re: #213 HoosierHoops
But, I'll bet I can out-sing Charles...
The only thing that I can do, musically.
I do not like it when singers (only) call themselves "musicians". We're singers.
223 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:21:35am |
224 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:21:35am |
Well, I gotta tell ya, I was starting to get just a little worried about Obama's weakness on Iran, but now that I know that Ahmadinejad is a Jew I will be sleeping a lot better.
///ubersarc///
[Link: [Link: www.haaretz.com...]...]
[Link: [Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]...]
225 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:22:21am |
re: #219 right_wing2
Now, with Rio's... reputation as a party city, with topless beaches, will the Islamic world boycott? Or will extremist elements of Islam start committing violence there in order to bring Rio to the high moral standards expected by the Hammies, Hezzies & AlQui's?
The beaches are topless? Yippee!
Beats Chicago by a mile...:)
226 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:23:01am |
re: #225 HoosierHoops
I've never seen a nudist that I would like to see nude.
'Ceptin pictures from Rio.
227 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:24:02am |
re: #220 Cannadian Club Akbar
I don't get why Florida hasn't gotten the winter games.
It is perplexing. I was also wondering why the summer games aren't going to be in Calgary.
228 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:25:10am |
re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've never seen a nudist that I would like to see nude.
'Ceptin pictures from Rio.
/note to self..Pack a camera...
229 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:26:15am |
230 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:27:14am |
re: #220 Cannadian Club Akbar
Damn those Bush's.
231 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:28:13am |
re: #199 HoosierHoops
Good Morning...Reservations on AA for august 2016 to Rio are 917.00 round trip..Screw it...I'm going to the Olympics
I'm not sure if it's still a problem, but it used to be a lot safer to fly into São Paulo and then take a domestic flight to Rio, arriving at the small domestic downtown airport, rather than Rio's international airport which is outside the main city. It's a lot longer, as you have to switch airports, I think, in São Paulo, and that's a real pain. It's the only way I've ever gone to Rio.
232 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:28:16am |
re: #229 Cannadian Club Akbar
And upload them.
My buddy went to Spain a few years ago..ahhh. the pics were spectacular...
/I'm in trouble aren't I?
//
233 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:29:08am |
"Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon."
Winston Churchill
Yea Capitalism!!!
234 | ryannon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:29:26am |
re: #137 Bagua
Part II:
Tempo changes:
It was a confusing sight at first, no fox, no Weasel,
A thin man shirtless, his jeans sagging revoltingly.
A beer in one hand.Beside him a chubby girl holding a broom handle?
Unable to comprehend. No doubt his mate.I saw the man kick the large while the white duck lay dying,
In the yard below me.
Confused I wondered, “Surely he found the duck wounded,
And is making short his suffering.She said “Its still alive” its head on the cement path, body on the grass.
The man approached and stomped its head a dozen or more times.
The horror of such egregious violence shocked me into awareness
That it was a crime, not mercy.A large tame duck, nearly a goose, no honor student, no child,
My mind thought of camera, none handy, and also of guns, then the phone
As the savage picked up the dead duck, its head shattered and mangled,
And the pair took off running and laughing before I could react on my high balcony.Too late to shoot or film, I dialed: 411 (Bagua gets flustered)
Hearing the message I dialed again:
911 – and gave my report, precious seconds and I described their deeds
And guessed their likely escape route.Then, against reason, chose to be citizen on patrol.
And set out into the darkness to stalk these savage freaks
I spotted the local PD, fast on scene, but typically,
On the wrong side of the river.
May the gods see to it, I humbly beseech:
their empty heads
Smashed into bloody pulp;
Slowly, with determination and art
Two unworthy lives snuffed
Leaving only a malodorous
but fast dissipating trace,
Like some lingering fart.
235 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:30:04am |
re: #231 John Neverbend
I'm not sure if it's still a problem, but it used to be a lot safer to fly into São Paulo and then take a domestic flight to Rio, arriving at the small domestic downtown airport, rather than Rio's international airport which is outside the main city. It's a lot longer, as you have to switch airports, I think, in São Paulo, and that's a real pain. It's the only way I've ever gone to Rio.
I'll check it on the web today..What Airline? AA?
236 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:30:27am |
re: #232 HoosierHoops
My buddy went to Spain a few years ago..ahhh. the pics were spectacular...
/I'm in trouble aren't I?
//
Only if Ms. Hoops is behid you.
237 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:35:01am |
re: #235 HoosierHoops
I'll check it on the web today..What Airline? AA?
AA or JAL to SP then Tam to Rio. It's a long drive, however, from SP international airport to the domestic airport. I think that some years ago, armed gangs were routinely hijacking taxis going from Rio International into the city. Eventually, they managed to hijack a taxi which contained, instead of tourists, a senior Brazilian judge, who was so horrified that he made sure that the military ruled out any repeats of the incident. This part may be apocryphal, but whenever I've been there on business, I've always been advised to go to SP first.
By the time 2016 rolls around, things will be quite different, and given the volume of tourists, I would have thought you'll have no problem. Also, I can't believe that the Brazilian government will allow anything bad to happen to incoming tourists, at least not between the airport and the city.
238 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:36:56am |
239 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:37:48am |
re: #237 John Neverbend
AA or JAL to SP then Tam to Rio. It's a long drive, however, from SP international airport to the domestic airport. I think that some years ago, armed gangs were routinely hijacking taxis going from Rio International into the city. Eventually, they managed to hijack a taxi which contained, instead of tourists, a senior Brazilian judge, who was so horrified that he made sure that the military ruled out any repeats of the incident. This part may be apocryphal, but whenever I've been there on business, I've always been advised to go to SP first.
By the time 2016 rolls around, things will be quite different, and given the volume of tourists, I would have thought you'll have no problem. Also, I can't believe that the Brazilian government will allow anything bad to happen to incoming tourists, at least not between the airport and the city.
4 Billion dollars for security should get me to my hotel...*wink*
What in a good hotel down there? This is going to be great...
World class athletes and topless beaches! What more does a man want?
240 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:38:56am |
241 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:39:17am |
re: #237 John Neverbend
AA or JAL to SP then Tam to Rio.
The JAL non-stop flight to SP only goes from JFK, I think. AA may fly direct from other airports, but I've only ever flown from JFK.
242 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:40:24am |
Hey, what's the latest on the LGF cookbook?
243 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:40:53am |
re: #239 HoosierHoops
4 Billion dollars for security should get me to my hotel...*wink*
What in a good hotel down there? This is going to be great...
World class athletes and topless beaches! What more does a man want?
Beer. Steak. Whiskey.
244 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:41:51am |
re: #218 HoosierHoops
Burris is a crack head.. The reason really is that S. America has never hosted the Olympics.. We have hosted 8 games...4 summer..4 winter
It's only fair..
Congratulations Rio!
Yes. I don't think there was any hope in hell of Chicago (or anyone but Rio) getting it, assuming that Rio had a competent plan, which they obviously did.
And this was the first time that the heads of all potential host countries went, so Obama had to go. He was gone only 24 hours; I can't get worked up over that.
And hiya, Hoops!
245 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:42:06am |
246 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:42:22am |
re: #239 HoosierHoops
4 Billion dollars for security should get me to my hotel...*wink*
What in a good hotel down there? This is going to be great...
World class athletes and topless beaches! What more does a man want?
...and BRAZIL CAN AFFORD TO HOST THE FRICKIN' GAMES!
247 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:42:35am |
re: #50 Conservative Moonbat
So I have to be forced to judge this man, whom I've never met, on somthing he said two years before I joined his website?
I'm just not willing to pass judgement against him on that. I don't know him. I don't know his life experiences. I don't even know what he said when he meant it. I don't know if he'd say the same thing now as he'd say then. I frankly think it's absurd to expect every member of his website to be willing and able to pass judgement one way or the on the basis of this.
To be honest, I really don't care. It was a long time ago.
this sounds like President Obama refusing to condemn jeremiah wright ...
"this is not the markos i knew ... "
248 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:43:17am |
re: #247 _RememberTonyC
this sounds like President Obama refusing to condemn jeremiah wright ...
"this is not the markos i knew ... "
Dude, come on...
249 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:44:59am |
re: #244 iceweasel
Good Morning Ice! Hope today finds you well
/Don't read the posts about topless beaches...I didn't mean that..
/Not
:)
250 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:47:21am |
re: #218 HoosierHoops
Burris is a crack head.. The reason really is that S. America has never hosted the Olympics.. We have hosted 8 games...4 summer..4 winter
It's only fair..
Congratulations Rio!
That, and the fact that Rio bid $12.4 billion, against Chicago's $4.8 billion; and that the IOC is probably the worlds sleaziest, most corrupt organization, actively soliciting bribes from competing finalists.
251 | avanti Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:47:30am |
Good morning Lizards. It's funny how the smallest things remind me of what a great country we live in, and this weekend, it was a dinner party at the casino. Setting at our table were people from most cultures, Asians, whites, black and brown. A few beers into the evening, my wife was teaching a Chinese gal a line dance, a WWII vet was dancing with a young gal that recently immigrated from Russia and so on.
I don't think you'd find such a diverse group in most countries, and I think that's are strength, we get bits of the best from around the world.
BTW, as bad as the economy is, the 4 Harrah's proprieties booked over 5000 of their top level player for this weekends special events. Last night, we had the Dancing with the stars event,(Got to meet Shannon Elizabeth) tonight it's a Seinfeld show, I'm still about even on the tables and having a great time. If the rest of the businesses in this country could learn marketing from the casino industry, the economy would be going nuts. :)
252 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:48:20am |
re: #248 iceweasel
Dude, come on...
Ice ... I don't really care about the little internal fights among Lizards. But sometimes people need to simply call out "wrongdoing," such as markos' shots at the mutilations and deaths in Iraq. That should be easy to condemn, unless someone doesn't think it was a bad thing.
253 | TheRealThing Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:49:48am |
Once more attempting to get the feel for this posting.
Why all the trouble and how do we new one to this learn without getting in trouble at the onset?
Will be on the road on some work, hope to check back in and get your answers.
254 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:50:48am |
re: #248 iceweasel
Dude, come on...
Ice, are you a Brit? I'm not asking where you are currently living, but I seem to remember that you've used words like "wanker" in your prior threads. This would suggest that either you're a Brit or somebody who has lived in Britain at some point.
255 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:51:11am |
Mr. Obama has done important, courageous things to restore America’s standing. After George W. Bush, it feels good — and safer — to know that people around the world feel better about this country and about this president
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
hahaha!...from the NYT...gotta love it
256 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:51:19am |
257 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:51:50am |
re: #254 John Neverbend
Ice, are you a Brit? I'm not asking where you are currently living, but I seem to remember that you've used words like "wanker" in your prior threads. This would suggest that either you're a Brit or somebody who has lived in Britain at some point.
Dude, don't be a wanker!
//
not a brit
258 | Hengineer Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:51:54am |
Hello all, just pulled into Augusta Bay, Sicily. We're here for a few days while we pick up supplies and offload some other items.
260 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:53:00am |
261 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:53:19am |
re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Speak your mind.
Don't pander. It's what politicians do.
Relax.
If more politicians spoke their mind, I would have someone to vote for.
262 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:53:57am |
re: #257 rwdflynavy
Dude, don't be a wanker!
//
not a brit
Doesn't count. Besides when did Rahm Emanuel ever say "wanker"?
263 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:54:05am |
re: #258 Hengineer
Hello all, just pulled into Augusta Bay, Sicily. We're here for a few days while we pick up supplies and offload some other items.
Freaking cool...Take pics!
hope today finds you well and healthy..
265 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:54:50am |
re: #252 _RememberTonyC
Ice ... I don't really care about the little internal fights among Lizards. But sometimes people need to simply call out "wrongdoing," such as markos' shots at the mutilations and deaths in Iraq. That should be easy to condemn, unless someone doesn't think it was a bad thing.
Yeah, I don't disagree with you. CM tried to address this on the last thread, that's all.
267 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:56:57am |
Hi all.
Vincent Carroll has a few things to say about Thomas Friedman's assessment.
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]
Tom Friedman fears for his country because today's political mood is so raw. It reminds the eminent New York Times columnist, he wrote this week, of the mood in Israel just before Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated in 1995 — a time when "extreme right-wing settlers and politicians were doing all they could to delegitimize Rabin."
"The parallels to Israel then and America today turn my stomach," Friedman laments, adding his voice to many calling for more civility in political discourse.
He'll get no argument here about civility. From the boorishness of Joe Wilson and the fear-mongering of some radio talkers to the crackpot comparisons of the president to Hitler — not to mention the obsessive quest to prove Barack Obama is foreign born — some critics of the president have indeed leaped off the cliff.
But if Friedman considers the mood today a Petri dish for assassins, how would he describe the atmosphere during the previous presidency?
Midway through Friedman's column we are told that the mood during George W. Bush's tenure was bad, too — but never so bad, evidently, that it provoked the author then to suggest we were on the brink of a precipice and that liberals "who'd winked at it all" would find themselves complicit if a hothead picked up a gun to silence the commander in chief.
I happened to read Friedman's column while angry e-mails were streaming into my box in response to a column in which I denounced KBDI-Channel 12's decision to air 9/11 Truther documentaries. Scores of my correspondents defended the station, protesting that President Bush and his team had "sought a new Pearl Harbor to justify their proposed military conquests and arms buildup," to quote a fairly typical passage. It was time for scum like me to examine the evidence, they demanded.
This is lunacy squared — a president and his buddies committing high treason by pulling off an incredibly complex plot to murder thousands of office workers — yet such is the hatred for all things Bush that millions of Americans believe it. Until recently, there was one even working in Obama's White House.
And why wouldn't they, given the green light for such twisted hatred that was long provided by many esteemed Americans? As Peter Wehner observed recently on Commentary Magazine's blog, even a Democratic presidential candidate — Howard Dean in 2003 — described the notion that Bush might have been "warned ahead of time (about 9/11) by the Saudis" as "most interesting."
268 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:57:45am |
Holy crap. I get to start drinking beer in 2 hours.
269 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:58:08am |
... Carroll goes on to remind us...
Meanwhile, the roll call of prominent pols and commentators who accused Bush of being a despicable liar (Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, John Kerry and a legion of others), who claimed he'd "betrayed" his country (Gore, Harry Reid, etc.), or who equated Republicans with "brownshirts" or Nazis (Gore, John Glenn, Garrison Keillor and many more) is almost mind-boggling.
No wonder Michael Moore's pulp propaganda attack on Bush, "Fahrenheit 911," became such a hit and was praised so lavishly (one of Carter's favorite movies, he said). Or that it was once fashionable not only to volunteer that you hated Bush but that you'd like to see him dead. In a recent issue of National Review, Jay Nordlinger recounts a host of these ugly eruptions, including Kerry joking with Bill Maher in 2006 that he "could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone." Funny, no?
Friedman believes that "a cocktail of political and technological trends have converged in the last decade that are making it possible for the idiots of all political stripes to overwhelm and paralyze the genius of our system." Maybe so, but it wasn't just fringe idiots who debased anti-Bush rhetoric with the crudest name-calling and vilest accusations. It was genuine opinion leaders and members of Congress such as Rep. Pete Stark, who just two years ago said troops were being sent to Iraq "to get their heads blown off for the president's amusement."
Fortunately, the rhetorical excesses of the Obama haters are different so far in at least three respects.
First, they're usually not as vituperative.
Second, they're not nearly as common.
And third, they're being subjected, finally, to the withering criticism of establishment figures like Friedman.
270 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:58:30am |
re: #254 John Neverbend
Ice, are you a Brit? I'm not asking where you are currently living, but I seem to remember that you've used words like "wanker" in your prior threads. This would suggest that either you're a Brit or somebody who has lived in Britain at some point.
I've lived in the UK, yes. Wanker, however, is used a lot in the lefty-sphere, since Atrios created a 'wanker of the day' award.
Also, wanker is just a great word.
271 | avanti Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:58:50am |
Just killing some time before another event at the casino and checked Gallup to find a interesting poll on the POTUS's popularity with Jewish voters.
272 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:58:58am |
re: #265 iceweasel
Yeah, I don't disagree with you. CM tried to address this on the last thread, that's all.
no problem ... i wasn't on the last thread. if there's one thing about the mindset on LGF that i embrace, it's the importance of calling out all of the bad actors.
273 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:59:19am |
Interesting to find out a local Denver TV station wants to play 9/11 troofer flicks.
274 | Hengineer Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:00:13am |
re: #273 FrogMarch
Interesting to find out a local Denver TV station wants to play 9/11 troofer flicks.
for purpose of ridicule or to "inform the mindless drones"?
275 | avanti Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:00:27am |
re: #268 Cannadian Club Akbar
Holy crap. I get to start drinking beer in 2 hours.
It's 5 PM somewhere. :) See you all later, off to a brunch.
276 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:00:30am |
re: #270 iceweasel
I've lived in the UK, yes. Wanker, however, is used a lot in the lefty-sphere, since Atrios created a 'wanker of the day' award.
Also, wanker is just a great word.
It's just fun to say!!
278 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:02:09am |
re: #274 Hengineer
for purpose of ridicule or to "inform the mindless drones"?
So the mouth-breathers on the left can re-live their glory days and re-capture that BDS that so propelled their daily lives. ...and for edukation. Alex Jones should be happy.
279 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:02:11am |
re: #269 FrogMarch
... Carroll goes on to remind us...
In the interest of journalistic fairness, Friedman should take it up with this tool:
[Link: www.npr.org...]
Just sayin'
280 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:03:11am |
re: #277 Hengineer
sure is, you bloody wanker!
Hengineer, What ship are you on? USN or Merchant or other?
My last time to Augusta bay was 1993. Been to Sigonella many times since then. 1993 was to meet the USS JOSEPHUS DANIELS (CG-27).
281 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:03:38am |
Just watched Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa..funny movie
I counted 22 lawyers in the credits...22!
Damn..I want a team of 22 lawyers... I could own the world
282 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:04:07am |
re: #270 iceweasel
I've lived in the UK, yes. Wanker, however, is used a lot in the lefty-sphere, since Atrios created a 'wanker of the day' award.
Also, wanker is just a great word.
I don't know Atrios. "Wanker" was in common usage when I was growing up, and not limited to any one political group. In fact, I don't recall the lefties at my university using it against me. They favoured things like "Zionist scum". Personally, I'm a fan of "smeghead", which never seemed to have quite made it to the levels of "wanker".
283 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:04:39am |
re: #281 HoosierHoops
"It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it."
-Steven Wright
284 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:15am |
re: #281 HoosierHoops
Just watched Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa..funny movie
I counted 22 lawyers in the credits...22!
Damn..I want a team of 22 lawyers... I could own the world
22 lawyers ... 11 on offense and 11 on defense? Sounds like a football game about to break out ...
285 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:20am |
re: #282 John Neverbend
I don't know Atrios. "Wanker" was in common usage when I was growing up, and not limited to any one political group. In fact, I don't recall the lefties at my university using it against me. They favoured things like "Zionist scum". Personally, I'm a fan of "smeghead", which never seemed to have quite made it to the levels of "wanker".
Libs on campus called me "Baby Killer!" My response, "Never more than I can eat".
286 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:05:53am |
re: #282 John Neverbend
I don't know Atrios. "Wanker" was in common usage when I was growing up, and not limited to any one political group. In fact, I don't recall the lefties at my university using it against me. They favoured things like "Zionist scum". Personally, I'm a fan of "smeghead", which never seemed to have quite made it to the levels of "wanker".
WTF is a smeghead?
287 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:06:51am |
re: #279 _RememberTonyC
In the interest of journalistic fairness, Friedman should take it up with this tool:
[Link: www.npr.org...]
Just sayin'
77% vote yes.
288 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:07:48am |
re: #282 John Neverbend
I don't know Atrios. "Wanker" was in common usage when I was growing up, and not limited to any one political group. In fact, I don't recall the lefties at my university using it against me. They favoured things like "Zionist scum". Personally, I'm a fan of "smeghead", which never seemed to have quite made it to the levels of "wanker".
ahhh I LOVE "smeghead" as a term of abuse. Red Dwarf fan?
289 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:07:52am |
290 | Hengineer Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:08:29am |
re: #280 rwdflynavy
USNS, the USNS Kanawha (click on my user picture/avatar).
We pull into the NATO pier across the water from Augusta Bay not far from Siracusa - we used to anchor closer in and take a liberty launch to Augusta, but now we have to arrange for buses to take us to Catania, Siracusa, or Siganella, the base.
We spend most of our time in the med pulling in and out of the NATO fueling pier on Crete, and we usually hire a bus into Chania then. I enjoy the port of Soudha Bay (Crete) than Augusta. Maybe if we hired a bus to Siracusa I might like it more, the bus ride to Catania is around 45-50 minutes, and the bus ride to Siracusa would be 20-25 minutes: to the base at Siganella its literally an hour.
291 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:08:44am |
292 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:08:47am |
294 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:09:40am |
re: #289 John Neverbend
Didn't you ever watch Red Dwarf?
Shouldn't it be called "Red Little-person"?
295 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:09:49am |
[Link: www.google.com...]
stimulating unemployment...I hear road repair sign painters are finding work tho
296 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:10:21am |
297 | Hengineer Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:10:34am |
re: #295 albusteve
[Link: www.google.com...]
stimulating unemployment...I hear road repair sign painters are finding work tho
Shovel stands (I mean Transportation workers) are finding employment, too!
298 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:10:54am |
re: #288 iceweasel
ahhh I LOVE "smeghead" as a term of abuse. Red Dwarf fan?
Not exactly a fan, but an infrequent watcher.
299 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:12:19am |
re: #274 Hengineer
for purpose of ridicule or to "inform the mindless drones"?
Perhaps KBDI channel 12 (a PBS affiliate) playing of 9/11 trofer flicks is an act to re-rally the left. When GWB was most hated - Obama and the democrats were flying high. If only the left could re-capture that glory... that pristine hatred.
300 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:12:34am |
re: #296 Cannadian Club Akbar
Why is this bad?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
foul...and particualrly juvenile
301 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:12:52am |
re: #298 John Neverbend
Not exactly a fan, but an infrequent watcher.
Same here; I reckoned you'd gotten the term from it though.
302 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:13:20am |
re: #297 Hengineer
Shovel stands (I mean Transportation workers) are finding employment, too!
good one
303 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:14:03am |
re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I voted no. Speak your mind.
Let the voters sort it out.
Yeah. And don't you think forced apologies are silly? I do.
It's not as if both sides don't play in this over-the-top rhetorical game of BS.
304 | Kronocide Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:14:35am |
Judge to Prop. 8 backers: Turn over your papers
A federal judge has ordered sponsors of California's Proposition 8 to release campaign strategy documents that opponents believe could show that backers of the same-sex marriage ban were motivated by prejudice against gays.
As if it's not already really weird, it's getting weirder. This is extremely problematic.
306 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:15:35am |
re: #303 FrogMarch
Yeah. And don't you think forced apologies are silly? I do.
It's not as if both sides don't play in this over-the-top rhetorical game of BS.
308 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:18:55am |
re: #296 Cannadian Club Akbar
Why is this bad?
Here's a good example:
Lister is trying to teach Kryten the robot to call Rimmer a smeghead.
309 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:19:54am |
311 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:20:28am |
312 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:20:39am |
In his first speech before the UN General Assembly, Obama self-righteously preached, "Nothing is easier than blaming others for our troubles, and absolving ourselves of responsibility for our choices and our actions. Anybody can do that. Responsibility and leadership in the 21st century demands more." When away from the podium, however, Obama is the embodiment of hypocritical disappointment, never failing to shift blame for his lack of ability to an undeserving predecessor. It appears the more he talks the more it is apparent that, unlike George W. Bush, there is a glaring disconnect between what the President says and what he does.
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
how people can blow this off is beyond me...I cannot believe BO can win another election against decent competition
313 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:22:04am |
re: #304 BigPapa
Judge to Prop. 8 backers: Turn over your papers
A federal judge has ordered sponsors of California's Proposition 8 to release campaign strategy documents that opponents believe could show that backers of the same-sex marriage ban were motivated by prejudice against gays.
As if it's not already really weird, it's getting weirder. This is extremely problematic.
"what did you think, and when did you think it?"
314 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:22:08am |
I cannot believe BO can win another election against decent competition
Unfortunately, I can't see any decent competition at the moment.
316 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:24:21am |
re: #283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it."
-Steven Wright
"My dental hygienist is cute. Every time I visit, I eat a whole package of Oreo
cookies while waiting in the lobby. Sometimes she has to cancel the rest of
the afternoon's appointments."
-Steven Wright
317 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:24:46am |
re: #315 Hengineer
Apologize! APOLOGIZE!
-Meet Bill
"You owe me an apology."
Mr. Oyl, "Popeye" (the movie)
318 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:26:41am |
I love this song...
Speaking of Popeye.
319 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:27:10am |
re: #316 FrogMarch
"My dental hygienist is cute. Every time I visit, I eat a whole package of Oreo
cookies while waiting in the lobby. Sometimes she has to cancel the rest of
the afternoon's appointments."-Steven Wright
I worked at a fire hydrant plant. You couldn't park anywhere near the place.
Steven Wright
320 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:27:49am |
re: #315 Hengineer
Apologize! APOLOGIZE!
-Meet Bill
I missed the movie "Meet Bill". Is it worth seeing?
321 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:27:51am |
re: #314 John Neverbend
Unfortunately, I can't see any decent competition at the moment.
won't take much...there are more conservatives in this country than liberals...it's just crunching numbers...but after Obama, what sort of POTUS will we have?...Huckaby? hahaha!...good lord
322 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:30:53am |
re: #321 albusteve
won't take much...there are more conservatives in this country than liberals...it's just crunching numbers...but after Obama, what sort of POTUS will we have?...Huckaby? hahaha!...good lord
Someone will step to the plate. A conservative who runs on their beliefs, wins.
323 | Kronocide Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:31:18am |
In England, residential care costs must be met by the individual if they have assets of more than £23,000.
Tory Health spokesman Andrew Lansley said, if elected, the party would invite people to pay a one-off charge of £8,000 at 65 to waive fees for life.
Ministers have dismissed the voluntary scheme as "flawed and hasty".
The government put forward its own proposals on elderly care at the Labour Party conference.
Gordon Brown outlined plans for a "National Care Service" so those with "the highest needs" could be cared for in their own home.
Yeah, that'll work.
324 | Hengineer Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:31:31am |
re: #320 FrogMarch
I missed the movie "Meet Bill". Is it worth seeing?
Its not bad, Jessica Alba is in it, the guy who plays the main character in "Thank you for Smoking" is the lead character in this, I forget his name.
Basically its a story about a midlife crisis with no real happy feel-good ending, just kind of an ellipses, but still a good story.
325 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:33:10am |
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
get a load of this nannycrap...and the double talk for an explanation
326 | Hengineer Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:33:38am |
re: #320 FrogMarch
I missed the movie "Meet Bill". Is it worth seeing?
I think it was a straight to DVD movie...
327 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:37:48am |
re: #324 Hengineer
Basically its a story about a midlife crisis with no real happy feel-good ending, just kind of an ellipses, but still a good story.
I'll put in on my "maybe" list.
328 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:38:08am |
Unbridled laissez-faire capitalism is, by definition, social Darwinism. Economic eugenics.
Discuss.
329 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:39:06am |
330 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:39:24am |
teeth tax?...it's likely
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
331 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:42:36am |
re: #328 negativ
Unbridled laissez-faire capitalism is, by definition, social Darwinism. Economic eugenics.
Discuss.
'What we need is Democracy...DEMOCRACY!' /I want my democracy now!
-Michael Moore
(where 51% of the people get to tell 49% what to do. - That will save us!)
or something.
332 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:43:02am |
re: #321 albusteve
but after Obama, what sort of POTUS will we have?...Huckaby? hahaha!...good lord
If that happens, my entire library of books on neo-Darwinism will suffer spontaneous combustion.
333 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:43:23am |
re: #329 HoosierHoops
I'm recording I am Legend
Pretty cool movie
Is that with Will Smith? I like Will Smith. I still need to see 7 pounds.
334 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:45:35am |
re: #333 FrogMarch
Is that with Will Smith? I like Will Smith. I still need to see 7 pounds.
Wasn't that the remake of Charlton Heston's "The Omega Man"?
335 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:45:56am |
Have you ever felt like sticking a hot poker up your nose?
337 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:46:21am |
re: #333 FrogMarch
Is that with Will Smith? I like Will Smith. I still need to see 7 pounds.
Yes Will Smith.. I watched it the other day and forgot to record it...
Wouldn't it be cool to be the only person left in NYC?
I'd trash that city..Hehehehe
338 | Hengineer Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:46:35am |
re: #331 FrogMarch
'What we need is Democracy...DEMOCRACY!' /I want my democracy now!
-Michael Moore(where 51% of the people get to tell 49% what to do. - That will save us!)
or something.
It'd be impossible to have a pure democracy in a country as big as America.
He should be happy to have our Representative-Democracy.
339 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:46:58am |
re: #328 negativ
Unbridled laissez-faire capitalism is, by definition, social Darwinism. Economic eugenics.
Discuss.
We have lost our financial moral ground. By that I mean making gubment to be held accountable. They won't do it until we step to the plate.
340 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:46:59am |
re: #335 MandyManners
Have you ever felt like sticking a hot poker up your nose?
I think that's what Edward II said as he was murdered.
341 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:47:49am |
re: #337 HoosierHoops
Wouldn't it be cool to be the only person left in NYC?
The lines in Rite Aid would be shorter.
342 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:48:25am |
343 | reine.de.tout Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:49:04am |
Good morning, everyone!
I just saw this and thought it was kind of cool, so I'm sharing:
344 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:50:35am |
re: #341 John Neverbend
The lines in Rite Aid would be shorter.
I was thinking bars, food, movies, riches ect...
I hadn't thought of the drug stores...Sweet...
*wink*
345 | Mich-again Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:51:16am |
re: #334 John Neverbend
Wasn't that the remake of Charlton Heston's "The Omega Man"?
Its kind of a remake of the original I Am Legend from the '50's.
The new one had better special effects, but the ending changed the storyline so much it totally lost the point of the original.
346 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:51:30am |
re: #342 MandyManners
Fucking Commie bastards.
Good Morning Mandy...Hope today finds you well..
How is the little man today?
347 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:52:04am |
re: #337 HoosierHoops
Yes Will Smith.. I watched it the other day and forgot to record it...
Wouldn't it be cool to be the only person left in NYC?
I'd trash that city..Hehehehe
I'd go shopping.
349 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:52:49am |
re: #342 MandyManners
Fucking Commie bastards.
it just never ends...it becomes comical...this Congress is a disaster
350 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:52:52am |
re: #344 HoosierHoops
I was thinking bars, food, movies, riches ect...
I hadn't thought of the drug stores...Sweet...
*wink*
Yes, I'd serve myself a few draught Guinnesses, but it would downhill from there.
351 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:53:24am |
352 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:54:11am |
re: #329 HoosierHoops
I'm recording I am Legend
Pretty cool movie
Trivia:
The original novel, "I am Legend" (which, unsurprisingly, vastly outshines the movie) was written by Richard Matheson, who wrote several stories used in the original The Twilight Zone series, including "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" which featured William Shatner. Matheson also wrote the Star Trek episode "The Enemy Within".
Your life is enriched by this knowledge; admit it.
353 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:54:52am |
re: #350 John Neverbend
Yes, I'd serve myself a few draught Guinnesses, but it would downhill from there.
Add a shot and I am with ya.
354 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:55:13am |
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
sounds like the last gasp...donks mocking the republicans for not having their own plan...when clearly they would be mocked if they did
355 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:55:20am |
re: #347 FrogMarch
I'd go shopping.
Amen to that...Finally I'd get that yellow Convertible BMW to cruise the Avenue of Americas at 90 mph wearing spiffy clothes...Gold and Diamonds Baby!
*wink*
356 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:56:13am |
re: #338 Hengineer
It'd be impossible to have a pure democracy in a country as big as America.
He should be happy to have our Representative-Democracy.
I've noticed that some folks on the left no longer admit they want socialism.
(which is what they DO want) People like Moore anyway. So instead they just say "Democracy".
357 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:57:07am |
re: #355 HoosierHoops
Amen to that...Finally I'd get that yellow Convertible BMW to cruise the Avenue of Americas at 90 mph wearing spiffy clothes...Gold and Diamonds Baby!
*wink*
Good idea. Then, I could move into that apartment on 5th avenue with views of Central Park. Life would be good...for a few hours. Then I'd probably move to Riverdale.
358 | Mich-again Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:58:11am |
re: #330 albusteve
But the tax, expected to raise about $40 billion over the next decade, is still in the bill and includes items like:
* Pacemakers
* Hip joint replacements
* Gastrointestinal tubes
* Artificial hearts
* Hearing aids
* Porcelain teeth
* Heart defibrillators
* Prosthetic heart valve rotators
* Powered wheelchairs
* Ventilators
New taxes for pacemakers and wheelchairs. Change!
359 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:58:29am |
361 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:59:39am |
363 | Mich-again Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:00:00am |
364 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:00:06am |
365 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:00:18am |
re: #355 HoosierHoops
Amen to that...Finally I'd get that yellow Convertible BMW to cruise the Avenue of Americas at 90 mph wearing spiffy clothes...Gold and Diamonds Baby!
*wink*
Driving around in a BMW at dangerously high speeds appeals to me.
366 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:00:45am |
367 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:01:40am |
368 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:02:07am |
re: #365 FrogMarch
Driving around in a BMW at dangerously high speeds appeals to me.
My son is out of the Marines now..Going to be a local cop...
I told him if I ever get a speeding ticket..Christmas is going to suck for you..
That's how I roll.. *wink*
369 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:02:46am |
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
BO puts the onus on the IAEA to deal with Iran...ElBaradei and his henchmen...that should work out swell
370 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:03:08am |
re: #365 FrogMarch
Driving around in a BMW at dangerously high speeds appeals to me.
I did it once on the M1 going into London. It lost its appeal after that.
371 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:03:12am |
372 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:04:13am |
re: #370 John Neverbend
I did it once on the M1 going into London. It lost its appeal after that.
You have to be alone on the planet for the appeal to work properly.
373 | Irish Rose Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:05:28am |
Good morning, dear friends.
I was out of comission last night... anything interesting happen?
374 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:05:31am |
375 | sadhu Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:05:34am |
I'm in Umbria at my sister's place for a visit and the grape harvest AND above the outside door to the kitchen is a sign that reads "Lizard Lounge"
wherever you go, there you are
om sweet home
great wine too :)
376 | Mich-again Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:05:44am |
Queue the Twilight Zone music..
Witness Mr. Henry Bemis, a charter member in the fraternity of dreamers. A bookish little man whose passion is the printed page but who is conspired against by a bank president and a wife and a world full of tongue-cluckers and the unrelenting hands of a clock. But in just a moment Mr. Bemis will enter a world without bank presidents or wives or clocks or anything else. He'll have a world all to himself, without anyone.
377 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:06:17am |
re: #365 FrogMarch
Driving around in a BMW at dangerously high speeds appeals to me.
I was tooling across the mesa driving my ex wife's new turbo Mini last week...130 easily...what a hot little car, with like 10 inch brake discs...talk about stop on a dime
378 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:07:32am |
379 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:08:08am |
re: #372 FrogMarch
You have to be alone on the planet for the appeal to work properly.
It was late at night, and there were no other cars.
380 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:08:48am |
381 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:09:41am |
re: #346 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Mandy...Hope today finds you well..
How is the little man today?
Finer than a frog's hair split three ways.
How're you?
382 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:09:54am |
re: #377 albusteve
I was tooling across the mesa driving my ex wife's new turbo Mini last week...130 easily...what a hot little car, with like 10 inch brake discs...talk about stop on a dime
Sweet.
383 | John Neverbend Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:09:57am |
re: #380 Cannadian Club Akbar
If it fail, subside it.
Ooh, nice subjunctive in the first part. Was it intentional?
384 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:11:27am |
re: #383 John Neverbend
Ooh, nice subjunctive in the first part. Was it intentional?
No. And I can't spell.
385 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:11:35am |
re: #375 sadhu
I'm in Umbria at my sister's place for a visit and the grape harvest AND above the outside door to the kitchen is a sign that reads "Lizard Lounge"
wherever you go, there you are
om sweet home
great wine too :)
Umbria? Is that some kind of furrin place?
386 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:12:37am |
re: #349 albusteve
it just never ends...it becomes comical...this Congress is a disaster
At least they won't tax tampons!
387 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:14:01am |
389 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:15:37am |
390 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:17:44am |
re: #368 HoosierHoops
My son is out of the Marines now..Going to be a local cop...
I told him if I ever get a speeding ticket..Christmas is going to suck for you..
That's how I roll.. *wink*
A local cop - very nice.
Heh. Priorities!
392 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:17:49am |
393 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:18:39am |
re: #381 MandyManners
Finer than a frog's hair split three ways.
How're you?
Wonderful Mandy...
Mandy is in da house! Hope you are well..
The pool is closed up...no swimming laps this Saturday morning..After the movie I'm putting on the New Balances and running...Sucks big time...
Maybe I should buy a bike and ride like Charles cause I hate running...
I hate running in chilly weather...No I hate it!
LOL
Always nice to see you Mandy
394 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:18:48am |
395 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:20:37am |
re: #392 Cannadian Club Akbar
You realize she will give you a whoopin'?
I feel too shitty to whoop anyone.
396 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:20:40am |
re: #386 MandyManners
At least they won't tax tampons!
Sometimes, after the hot pokers up the nose cause the nose to bleed, it's a good idea to stuff tampons up there to keep from bleeding all over the place. I saw it on a Sex and the City episode.
I cannot beleive I just said that.
397 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:21:33am |
re: #376 Mich-again
Queue the Twilight Zone music..
Now the questions that come to mind. Where is this place and when is it? What kind of world where ugliness is the norm and beauty the deviation from that norm? You want an answer? The answer is, it doesn't make any difference. Because the old saying happens to be true: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, in this year or a hundred years hence, on this planet or wherever there is human life, perhaps out amongst the stars. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A lesson to be learned— in The Twilight Zone.
As of this moment, the wonderful electric grandmother moved into the lives of children and father. She became integral and important. She became the essence. As of this moment, they would never see lightning, never hear poetry read, never listen to foreign tongues without thinking of her. Everything they would ever see, hear, taste, feel would remind them of her. She was all life, and all life was wondrous, quick, electrical — like Grandma.
I'm missing 18 episodes from my collection. EIGHTEEN! This is a travesty.
398 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:22:07am |
re: #393 HoosierHoops
Wonderful Mandy...
Mandy is in da house! Hope you are well..
The pool is closed up...no swimming laps this Saturday morning..After the movie I'm putting on the New Balances and running...Sucks big time...
Maybe I should buy a bike and ride like Charles cause I hate running...
I hate running in chilly weather...No I hate it!
LOL
Always nice to see you Mandy
All I wanna' do is curl into a ball and sleep for the next six months.
399 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:23:01am |
re: #396 FrogMarch
Sometimes, after the hot pokers up the nose cause the nose to bleed, it's a good idea to stuff tampons up there to keep from bleeding all over the place. I saw it on a Sex and the City episode.
I cannot beleive I just said that.
Were they wearing Pradas?
400 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:23:22am |
re: #398 MandyManners
All I wanna' do is curl into a ball and sleep for the next six months.
6 months ain't gonna do it.
401 | Irish Rose Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:24:32am |
re: #398 MandyManners
All I wanna' do is curl into a ball and sleep for the next six months.
The days grow shorter, and hibernation mode kicks in.
402 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:25:20am |
re: #399 MandyManners
Were they wearing Pradas?
Actually, it was one of the male characters. I think he was wearing athletic attire.
403 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:25:28am |
404 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:25:28am |
re: #390 FrogMarch
A local cop - very nice.
Heh. Priorities!
Can you imagine getting pulled over by your son for speeding ( everybody drives like idiots here)
Sir..Can I see some ID?
Are you serious?
Sir..Step out of the car...
Are you freaking serious?
Sir? Step out of the car...
405 | MJ Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:25:56am |
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.
A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.
A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver...
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
406 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:26:08am |
407 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:26:29am |
re: #401 Irish Rose
The days grow shorter, and hibernation mode kicks in.
Morning all. Warming up, 44 degrees here, I don't think it got under 34 last night.
408 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:26:31am |
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
and Cass Sunstein wants to ban hunting...bright guy
409 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:26:33am |
re: #401 Irish Rose
The days grow shorter, and hibernation mode kicks in.
Do bears have sinus problems?
410 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:27:15am |
re: #401 Irish Rose
The days grow shorter, and hibernation mode kicks in.
I lived in Canada for 3 months. What is there to do in the north besides drinking?
411 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:27:32am |
re: #405 MJ
I guess 'dinnerjacket' must be closer to his name than we realized.
412 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:28:02am |
re: #402 FrogMarch
Actually, it was one of the male characters. I think he was wearing athletic attire.
Nike? New Balance? Mephisto?
413 | Mich-again Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:28:54am |
re: #403 right_wing2
Time enough to read at last.
I can see myself as Mr Bemis.
Note to self: get a backup pair of glasses just in case..
414 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:30:13am |
re: #410 Cannadian Club Akbar
I lived in Canada for 3 months. What is there to do in the north besides drinking?
That was SO phrased wrong. Sorry.
415 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:30:13am |
re: #405 MJ
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past.
Oh, my stars and bars!
416 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:30:25am |
re: #413 Mich-again
Contacts. 2 pr glasses. Might get along with strong enough reading glasses from Walgreens.
417 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:30:58am |
418 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:30:58am |
re: #410 Cannadian Club Akbar
I lived in Canada for 3 months. What is there to do in the north besides drinking?
Have sex.
419 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:31:23am |
420 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:31:53am |
421 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:32:22am |
422 | Irish Rose Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:32:34am |
I took an interesting little religious self-quiz on Belief.net this morning... the results are very interesting.
According to the results, I'm more aligned with liberal Christianity than I am with conservative Christianity, due to my passionate concern for social justice (as opposed to social conservatism)... a member of the Christian left, as opposed to a member of the Christian right.
Ya think?
423 | Occasional Reader Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:32:47am |
re: #385 MandyManners
Umbria? Is that some kind of furrin place?
Are you trying to stanch the flow of wealth from taxpayer to government?
424 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:33:25am |
re: #408 albusteve
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
and Cass Sunstein wants to ban hunting...bright guy
The buggers LOVE to eat my lettuce.
425 | Occasional Reader Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:33:26am |
re: #405 MJ
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
Schikelgruber, Part Deux
426 | Irish Rose Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:34:11am |
re: #410 Cannadian Club Akbar
I lived in Canada for 3 months. What is there to do in the north besides drinking?
Curling?
427 | Occasional Reader Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:34:26am |
428 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:34:31am |
430 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:35:13am |
re: #404 HoosierHoops
Can you imagine getting pulled over by your son for speeding ( everybody drives like idiots here)
Sir..Can I see some ID?
Are you serious?
Sir..Step out of the car...
Are you freaking serious?
Sir? Step out of the car...
After he pulls you over, just be very polite and keep your hands on the top of the steering wheel. Cops love that - it's a sign of respect.
431 | ryannon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:35:31am |
re: #270 iceweasel
I've lived in the UK, yes. Wanker, however, is used a lot in the lefty-sphere, since Atrios created a 'wanker of the day' award.
Also, wanker is just a great word.
Spot on.
433 | Irish Rose Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:35:46am |
434 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:35:48am |
re: #430 FrogMarch
After he pulls you over, just be very polite and keep your hands on the top of the steering wheel. Cops love that - it's a sign of respect.
SHOW SOME LEG.
435 | Sharmuta Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:35:53am |
re: #410 Cannadian Club Akbar
I lived in Canada for 3 months. What is there to do in the north besides drinking?
Sex.
436 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:35:55am |
438 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:36:24am |
re: #433 Irish Rose
Thats' what we rely on up here in Michigan to keep warm ;).
Cheaper than electricity, I suppose.
440 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:37:01am |
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
high speed rail, from where to where?...where does CA come up with 4.7bil matching federal funds?...how will it create 130k new jobs?...these people are so stupid they can't figure out how to provide drinking water for themselves...
441 | Irish Rose Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:37:17am |
re: #432 right_wing2
what quiz was that?
The "Belief-O-Matic", lol.
I have it linked on my blog if you want to give it a try.
442 | Occasional Reader Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:37:52am |
443 | jaunte Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:38:27am |
re: #439 right_wing2
It will kill a little time between sex, drinking, and curling.
444 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:39:20am |
re: #442 Occasional Reader
Well... okay, I'll give it a shot.
If that doesn't work, tune up and cry.
Oh, wait. That only works if you're a cute, little 16-year-old girl.
445 | Achilles Tang Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:39:25am |
re: #373 Irish Rose
Good morning, dear friends.
I was out of comission last night...
Sounds interesting. Tell us...
446 | Irish Rose Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:39:46am |
447 | Achilles Tang Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:40:38am |
re: #410 Cannadian Club Akbar
I lived in Canada for 3 months. What is there to do in the north besides drinking?
Scrimshaw?
448 | Digital Display Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:40:52am |
See you guys during College Football..Time to run
I love you guys..Be well and safe..
Give em hell Mandy!
Me loves my black New Balance MX600AB..Sounds like a sports car...
449 | Irish Rose Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:41:38am |
re: #448 HoosierHoops
See you guys during College Football..Time to run
I love you guys..Be well and safe..
Give em hell Mandy!
Me loves my black New Balance MX600AB..Sounds like a sports car...
Have a great day, Hoops.
450 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:41:45am |
451 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:42:28am |
re: #330 albusteve
teeth tax?...it's likely
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., wrote in a letter to Baucus that the tax "will seriously threaten thousands of American jobs and deter innovation." There are "many other ways to save money in health care," he said.
452 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:42:43am |
re: #440 albusteve
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
high speed rail, from where to where?...where does CA come up with 4.7bil matching federal funds?...how will it create 130k new jobs?...these people are so stupid they can't figure out how to provide drinking water for themselves...
That's why they need the train. They are gonna go 'git it, one bottle at a time.
///
I feel for CA. The drought really sucketh.
453 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:42:48am |
Out to punch the day in the face. Y'all have fun...
454 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:43:10am |
455 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:43:36am |
We are 16 miutes away from beer time.
456 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:43:40am |
re: #448 HoosierHoops
See you guys during College Football..Time to run
I love you guys..Be well and safe..
Give em hell Mandy!
Me loves my black New Balance MX600AB..Sounds like a sports car...
Watch out for pot-holes.
458 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:44:09am |
re: #453 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Out to punch the day in the face. Y'all have fun...
Watch out lest it punch back.
459 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:44:16am |
460 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:44:26am |
461 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:44:37am |
462 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:45:18am |
re: #451 MandyManners
Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., wrote in a letter to Baucus that the tax "will seriously threaten thousands of American jobs and deter innovation." There are "many other ways to save money in health care," he said.
he's suddenly an expert...a true blessing to the Party
463 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:47:02am |
464 | ryannon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:47:09am |
re: #328 negativ
Unbridled laissez-faire capitalism is, by definition, social Darwinism. Economic eugenics.
Discuss.
In that case, the drug cartels are its best and most shining examples.
465 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:47:19am |
re: #451 MandyManners
Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., wrote in a letter to Baucus that the tax "will seriously threaten thousands of American jobs and deter innovation." There are "many other ways to save money in health care," he said.
Franken said something vaguely intelligent? Excuse me, my head just exploded. I have to go pick up the pieces.
466 | Mich-again Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:47:52am |
re: #459 albusteve
I think they should convert an oil supertanker to fill up the hull with glacial ice and bring back about 70 million gallons at a time. Heck, its just going to melt into the ocean anyway.
467 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:48:10am |
re: #462 albusteve
he's suddenly an expert...a true blessing to the Party
Well, I'll credit him with having some common sense.
468 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:49:16am |
re: #463 Cannadian Club Akbar
Just waterboard me. Jeez.
In a few more minutes you can water board yourself... with sweet beer.
“I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.”
~Homer Simpson
469 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:50:26am |
re: #465 FrogMarch
Franken said something vaguely intelligent? Excuse me, my head just exploded. I have to go pick up the pieces.
He can help you search.
470 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:50:30am |
re: #427 Occasional Reader
Don't know about Irish, but my definition would be equality of standard/ opportunity. It might not result in equality of outcome, and needs to be limited (at least in legal terms) to equality before the law.
All Americans need to be held to the same standards when dealing with the government. This is, IMHO, the essence of limited government. A private business should, no matter how wrong it is, be able to discriminate. They're the ones who will lose out on loyal customers and innovative, hard-working employees. And yes, they'd more than deserve to be boycotted for their discrimination.
471 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:50:52am |
re: #468 FrogMarch
In a few more minutes you can water board yourself... with sweet beer.
“I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.”
~Homer Simpson
11 minutes!!!
472 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:51:06am |
re: #463 Cannadian Club Akbar
Just waterboard me. Jeez.
DOUGH… the stuff… that buys me beer
RAY… the guy that sells me beer
ME… the one… who drinks the beer
FAR… a long run to get beer
SO… I’ll have another beer
LA… I’ll have another beer
TEA… no, thanks, I’m drinking beer
That will bring us back to (looks into empty glass) D’OH!
~Homer Simpson
473 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:51:12am |
re: #465 FrogMarch
Franken said something vaguely intelligent? Excuse me, my head just exploded. I have to go pick up the pieces.
Oops.
474 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:51:13am |
re: #466 Mich-again
I think they should convert an oil supertanker to fill up the hull with glacial ice and bring back about 70 million gallons at a time. Heck, its just going to melt into the ocean anyway.
in college back in the 70's in my land use and water management classes this was discussed, that and hauling bergs down, then mine the water from them...this water problem was forseeable decades ago...I have little sympathy...and further the US should lead the world in desalination technology...but the enviroweenies see it otherwise
476 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:52:13am |
re: #467 MandyManners
Well, I'll credit him with having some common sense.
common sense yes, but hardly a profound idea...sounds like a teenager
477 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:52:47am |
re: #473 MandyManners
Oops.
[Link: www.frankenidiot.com...]
I cannot believe that's a photoshop. It's looks real.
478 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:52:55am |
re: #474 albusteve
in college back in the 70's in my land use and water management classes this was discussed, that and hauling bergs down, then mine the water from them...this water problem was forseeable decades ago...I have little sympathy...and further the US should lead the world in desalination technology...but the enviroweenies see it otherwise
How about telling HOA's to get over their bad selves regarding Kentucky blue grass requirements.
479 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:53:36am |
re: #476 albusteve
common sense yes, but hardly a profound idea...sounds like a teenager
You know I don't like the man but, I will give credit where it's due.
480 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:53:57am |
re: #477 FrogMarch
I cannot believe that's a photoshop. It's looks real.
To my knowledge, it IS real.
481 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:54:11am |
482 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:54:23am |
re: #474 albusteve
A guy named Daniel DaCruz wrote a book (fiction) years ago about that. 'Texas on the Rocks'.
483 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:54:58am |
485 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:56:51am |
re: #368 HoosierHoops
My son is out of the Marines now..Going to be a local cop...
I told him if I ever get a speeding ticket..Christmas is going to suck for you..
That's how I roll.. *wink*
do they give speeding tickets in Speedway, IN? That seems hypocritical to me ...
486 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:57:11am |
re: #483 FrogMarch
I heard that it's an evil right-wing photoshop.
Look where his cheek and the bear's cheek touch. Looks real to me.
487 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:58:01am |
re: #485 _RememberTonyC
do they give speeding tickets in Speedway, IN? That seems hypocritical to me ...
Isn't the county where Jack Daniels distilled a dry county?
489 | Enkidu90046 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:58:29am |
So, my GF and I were talking this morning about the Shalit tape and release of the 20 female prisoners. She asked me who these people being released are and what they had done. I told her that almost all of them were in jail for attempted murder and the handful that weren't for their participation in terrorist organizations. My GF then told me that she had heard a commentator on NPR talking about it and gave no indication that these women were arrested on charges so serious and was dismissive of the charges as being "minor".
Apparently the commentator did the whole "even-handed" bullshit to make it sound like there is equal suffering on both sides, both from the capture of Shalit and from the arrest of these terrorists on what was made to sound like trumped up charges. Basically they tried to make these women into Galid Shalit and make Israel into Hamas in the manner in which the prisoners have been captured and the lack of justification for it.
I have not heard the commentary to which my GF made reference, but it does not surprise me in the least. NPR is so strikingly anti-Israel it disgusts me... and playing the false moral equivocation angle is (to me) almost worst than outright support of the Palestinians because it is a more subtle form of bias that is more likely to sway people. I reminded my GF of the words of Sir Edmund Burke (all that evil needs to prevail is for good men to do nothing) in pointing out that NPR, by choosing to lie as it has and play the false middle, has made a choice... and it has chosen to support evil.
490 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:58:31am |
re: #388 MandyManners
I cannot believe I wrote that.
Playtex tampons have a new advertising slogan:
"We're not number one, but we're right up there."
491 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:58:50am |
re: #486 MandyManners
Look where his cheek and the bear's cheek touch. Looks real to me.
Considering he was a comedian on SNL - this is the sort of stuff that silly comedians do.
492 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:59:20am |
re: #487 MandyManners
Isn't the county where Jack Daniels distilled a dry county?
I would not be surprised ... JD was probably a bootlegger in the old days.
493 | Irish Rose Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:59:26am |
re: #484 right_wing2
Orthodox QUAKER?!
No, liberal quaker.
And btw... liberalism in religion is not the same as liberalism in politics. Just thought I'd add.
497 | poteen Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:02:06am |
re: #479 MandyManners
You know I don't like the man but, I will give credit where it's due.
I would wait to see what his alternatives are before doing that.
498 | JanglerNPL Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:02:44am |
499 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:03:41am |
re: #491 FrogMarch
Considering he was a comedian on SNL - this is the sort of stuff that silly comedians do.
Stuart Smalley.
500 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:04:25am |
re: #492 _RememberTonyC
I would not be surprised ... JD was probably a bootlegger in the old days.
I think the county where Basil Hayden is made is also dry.
501 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:04:38am |
502 | filetandrelease Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:04:52am |
re: #496 Cannadian Club Akbar
Beer. USF football. Nice day.
USF is really coming on. That was a surprise last week.
503 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:04:57am |
who would have believed it?...BO is on a roll
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
504 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:05:01am |
re: #497 poteen
I would wait to see what his alternatives are before doing that.
I've not heard a peep.
506 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:05:32am |
re: #496 Cannadian Club Akbar
Beer. USF football. Nice day.
You made it!
“The answer to life’s problems aren’t at the bottom of a beer bottle, they’re on TV.” ~Homer Simpson
507 | JanglerNPL Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:05:35am |
re: #501 FrogMarch
I don't know. Perhaps I should have said "one of the original photos".
508 | ryannon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:06:17am |
re: #328 negativ
Unbridled laissez-faire capitalism is, by definition, social Darwinism. Economic eugenics.
Discuss.
Read.
[Link: www.newyorker.com...]
509 | poteen Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:06:25am |
re: #504 MandyManners
Might end up being something like post-natal abortion for Coleman supporters./
510 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:07:01am |
re: #493 Irish Rose
No, liberal quaker.
And btw... liberalism in religion is not the same as liberalism in politics. Just thought I'd add.
Liberal Quakerism rocks, IMO.
511 | MandyManners Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:08:24am |
Gotta' go pick up The Kid from football practice.
512 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:09:07am |
513 | reine.de.tout Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:09:15am |
514 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:09:37am |
re: #493 Irish Rose
No, I came up as Orthodox Quaker! 2nd was Mainline/Conservative Protestent.
515 | FrogMarch Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:10:01am |
re: #507 JanglerNPL
I don't know. Perhaps I should have said "one of the original photos".
Well, the face is identical - so it probably is a photoshop.
516 | poteen Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:10:29am |
re: #511 MandyManners
Gotta' go pick up The Kid from football practice.
Real football I hope, not that dirty Commie conspiracy to control the youth of America. Soccer./
517 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:10:57am |
re: #503 albusteve
who would have believed it?...BO is on a roll
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
Interesting.
I wasn't on LGF yesterday during all the Olympic dust up and commenting here, but, looking back over some of the comments, I notice that there was a lot of agonizing about conservatives making too much about the rejection of Chicago.
My observations, the WORLD is making a lot about the rejection of Chicago and how it relates to Obama.
I see article after article this morning, from what is usually considered left-leaning major news sources, and they are not being too kind to Obama.
In my opinion, this whole dust up over the rejection of Chicago is not just being "exploited" by certain conservatives, if you want to consider it exploitation at all.
This incident seems to have shaken the dust off of a lot of peoples eyes, worldwide.
Just an observation.
518 | Irish Rose Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:12:36am |
re: #514 right_wing2
No, I came up as Orthodox Quaker! 2nd was Mainline/Conservative Protestent.
Heh.
You learn something new about yourself every day.
519 | JanglerNPL Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:12:42am |
Speaking of persistent myths, I noticed yesterday that someone (buzzsawmonkey?) on this board still seems to believe that Saddam Hussein had WMDs but moved them to Syria. I had thought this theory had been inoperable since 2005 (link). Of course, there are still arguments that can be made for the desirability of the invasion, but I think it's important to make those arguments under factual premises which best conform to our present level of knowledge.
520 | KingKenrod Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:14:28am |
re: #517 Walter L. Newton
Interesting.
I wasn't on LGF yesterday during all the Olympic dust up and commenting here, but, looking back over some of the comments, I notice that there was a lot of agonizing about conservatives making too much about the rejection of Chicago.
My observations, the WORLD is making a lot about the rejection of Chicago and how it relates to Obama.
I see article after article this morning, from what is usually considered left-leaning major news sources, and they are not being too kind to Obama.
In my opinion, this whole dust up over the rejection of Chicago is not just being "exploited" by certain conservatives, if you want to consider it exploitation at all.
This incident seems to have shaken the dust off of a lot of peoples eyes, worldwide.
Just an observation.
The IOC must be elated they got the most powerful person in the world to come by and kiss their ring. In the end, they just chose the place with the best whores (as they always do).
521 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:14:35am |
522 | jaunte Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:15:28am |
re: #517 Walter L. Newton
It seems like if you just compare a $4.8 billion bid to a $14.4 billion bid, the higher bid wins, no matter the personalities involved.
523 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:16:03am |
re: #520 KingKenrod
The IOC must be elated they got the most powerful person in the world to come by and kiss their ring. In the end, they just chose the place with the best whores (as they always do).
How do you know Rio has the best whores? :)
524 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:16:18am |
re: #518 Irish Rose
Well, I would have been far more surprised if I'd come up with 'Buddhist' 'Muslim' or 'Hindu' at the top, but O.Q. wasn't what I'd expected either.
525 | filetandrelease Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:16:50am |
re: #517 Walter L. Newton
Interesting.
I wasn't on LGF yesterday during all the Olympic dust up and commenting here, but, looking back over some of the comments, I notice that there was a lot of agonizing about conservatives making too much about the rejection of Chicago.
My observations, the WORLD is making a lot about the rejection of Chicago and how it relates to Obama.
I see article after article this morning, from what is usually considered left-leaning major news sources, and they are not being too kind to Obama.
In my opinion, this whole dust up over the rejection of Chicago is not just being "exploited" by certain conservatives, if you want to consider it exploitation at all.
This incident seems to have shaken the dust off of a lot of peoples eyes, worldwide.
Just an observation.
This was my concern yesterday. I thought it was a poor choice for him to go, the First sitting president to ever do so, wich I have confirmed, but my main point was that as the President, he had to have had some indication that it was a long shot. And with his withering polictical capital why waste it. IMO it was foolish.
My opinion was not taken well.
526 | The Left Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:17:01am |
re: #519 JanglerNPL
Speaking of persistent myths, I noticed yesterday that someone (buzzsawmonkey?) on this board still seems to believe that Saddam Hussein had WMDs but moved them to Syria. I had thought this theory had been inoperable since 2005 (link). Of course, there are still arguments that can be made for the desirability of the invasion, but I think it's important to make those arguments under factual premises which best conform to our present level of knowledge.
Well said!
527 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:17:45am |
re: #517 Walter L. Newton
Yes, the decision of where the Olympics will be hosted is now a life or death struggle, with the fate of nations hanging in the balance.
/
Here's my take:
- Chicago bid $4.8 billion.
- Rio bid $12.4 billion.
- The IOC is possibly the most corrupt organization on earth; it openly solicits bribes, gifts and favors from those under consideration as hosts.
That's pretty much the alpha and omega for this story.
528 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:18:22am |
re: #522 jaunte
It seems like if you just compare a $4.8 billion bid to a $14.4 billion bid, the higher bid wins, no matter the personalities involved.
I'm not talking about bids, I am talking about how a large number of news agencies and other sources are making similar observations about Obama and his attitude. Similar to some of comments that I see coming from the wacky right.
That's not good for us, no matter which side you're are on.
529 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:18:50am |
re: #520 KingKenrod
The IOC must be elated they got the most powerful person in the world to come by and kiss their ring. In the end, they just chose the place with the best whores (as they always do).
That's pretty much my take, too.
530 | VioletTiger Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:19:14am |
re: #520 KingKenrod
Not very kind.
Brazilians are among the nicest people you would ever want to meet.
531 | Achilles Tang Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:19:31am |
re: #450 Cannadian Club Akbar
What is that?
Carve pretty pictures into whale teeth, by the light of an oil lamp. Passes the time.
532 | Guanxi88 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:19:33am |
re: #527 SixDegrees
Yes, the decision of where the Olympics will be hosted is now a life or death struggle, with the fate of nations hanging in the balance.
/Here's my take:
- Chicago bid $4.8 billion.
- Rio bid $12.4 billion.
- The IOC is possibly the most corrupt organization on earth; it openly solicits bribes, gifts and favors from those under consideration as hosts.
That's pretty much the alpha and omega for this story.
Stupid Chicago machine's lost its touch - can't even offer a proper bribe anymore
533 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:19:34am |
re: #517 Walter L. Newton
Interesting.
I wasn't on LGF yesterday during all the Olympic dust up and commenting here, but, looking back over some of the comments, I notice that there was a lot of agonizing about conservatives making too much about the rejection of Chicago.
My observations, the WORLD is making a lot about the rejection of Chicago and how it relates to Obama.
I see article after article this morning, from what is usually considered left-leaning major news sources, and they are not being too kind to Obama.
In my opinion, this whole dust up over the rejection of Chicago is not just being "exploited" by certain conservatives, if you want to consider it exploitation at all.
This incident seems to have shaken the dust off of a lot of peoples eyes, worldwide.
Just an observation.
re: #517 Walter L. Newton
Interesting.
I wasn't on LGF yesterday during all the Olympic dust up and commenting here, but, looking back over some of the comments, I notice that there was a lot of agonizing about conservatives making too much about the rejection of Chicago.
My observations, the WORLD is making a lot about the rejection of Chicago and how it relates to Obama.
I see article after article this morning, from what is usually considered left-leaning major news sources, and they are not being too kind to Obama.
In my opinion, this whole dust up over the rejection of Chicago is not just being "exploited" by certain conservatives, if you want to consider it exploitation at all.
This incident seems to have shaken the dust off of a lot of peoples eyes, worldwide.
Just an observation.
as a result of his campaign, too many people expect too much from BO, and I think he personally overestimates his 'gifts'...now there is a sorting out process...but even so I think way too much has been made out of the Chicago thing...they don't want it and can't afford it...BO had to try tho...political payback and nothing to do with promoting America's greatness or whatever
534 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:20:29am |
re: #527 SixDegrees
Yes, the decision of where the Olympics will be hosted is now a life or death struggle, with the fate of nations hanging in the balance.
/Here's my take:
- Chicago bid $4.8 billion.
- Rio bid $12.4 billion.
- The IOC is possibly the most corrupt organization on earth; it openly solicits bribes, gifts and favors from those under consideration as hosts.
That's pretty much the alpha and omega for this story.
That's your take, but that is NOT the take of a lot of the world, as so pointed out in international news articles and other coverage of the whole story.
My point is, certain conservatives are being called out for making so much of this, well, a lot of liberal sources are making a lot of this, in a similar manner.
No good.
535 | Middle-Earth Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:21:25am |
536 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:21:29am |
re: #533 albusteve
as a result of his campaign, too many people expect too much from BO, and I think he personally overestimates his 'gifts'...now there is a sorting out process...but even so I think way too much has been made out of the Chicago thing...they don't want it and can't afford it...BO had to try tho...political payback and nothing to do with promoting America's greatness or whatever
And I think too much is being made of it too. My observation is that it's not just the wacky right making too much of it.
Obama is getting it from all sides.
537 | AuntAcid Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:22:24am |
re: #517 Walter L. Newton
"Hmmm? Something's wrong with this Kool-Aid"
538 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:22:30am |
re: #525 filetandrelease
This was my concern yesterday. I thought it was a poor choice for him to go, the First sitting president to ever do so, wich I have confirmed
540 | albusteve Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:23:35am |
re: #536 Walter L. Newton
And I think too much is being made of it too. My observation is that it's not just the wacky right making too much of it.
Obama is getting it from all sides.
INCOMING!...once his base starts to crack...?
541 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:24:15am |
re: #534 Walter L. Newton
That's your take, but that is NOT the take of a lot of the world, as so pointed out in international news articles and other coverage of the whole story.
My point is, certain conservatives are being called out for making so much of this, well, a lot of liberal sources are making a lot of this, in a similar manner.
No good.
That so much ink is being spilled on a matter of such small importance is, indeed, troubling.
542 | filetandrelease Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:25:34am |
re: #538 SixDegrees
This was brought up yesterday. Bush met with the folks in Chicago. That is NOT the committee who decides the winner. That is the committee who represents Chicago. No sitting president has ever lobbied the actual committee who make the call.
543 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:25:53am |
re: #542 filetandrelease
This was brought up yesterday. Bush met with the folks in Chicago. That is NOT the committee who decides the winner. That is the committee who represents Chicago. No sitting president has ever lobbied the actual committee who make the call.
Correct.
544 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:26:47am |
re: #542 filetandrelease
This was brought up yesterday. Bush met with the folks in Chicago. That is NOT the committee who decides the winner. That is the committee who represents Chicago. No sitting president has ever lobbied the actual committee who make the call.
Oh, brother.
545 | KingKenrod Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:27:01am |
re: #530 VioletTiger
Not very kind.
Brazilians are among the nicest people you would ever want to meet.
Apologies, my comment was not a serous one, and (in retrospect) wildly inaccurate.
546 | filetandrelease Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:27:48am |
547 | celticdragon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:27:50am |
re: #267 FrogMarch
There really is no accounting for blind partisan hatred and the love of outlandish conspiracy theories. You see plenty of both on either side. The equivalency ends with the violence angle, however. We haven't seen a serious left wing terrorist outfit since the Weathermen (some people count ELF, but who takes ELF all that seriously except for HUMVEE sales lots?)
I saw a number of left leaning folks who wished Bush would be impeached etc etc. I saw a LOT of really foul name calling. I never saw much in the way of wishing death on him or Cheney, though. Over the past 30 years, domestic (non Islamist) terrorism has been almost exclusively from the far right. Clinic got blown up? It wasn't a Lefty, for sure. Abortion provider shot in the head by a sniper through the kitchen window? That didn't come from the Left either. Oklahoma City?? We all know the answer to that one. McVeigh was no "Liberal" in any sense of the word. (I was one of the many voices calling for investigation and prosecution of Law Enforcement concerning Waco and Ruby Ridge. McVeigh handed the Left an unimpeachable case against anything of the sort with his act of insanity)
The fact is that gun and weapon ownership is almost exclusively an issue of the Right, and our side has stated (time and time and time again...yawn) that we are willing to use violence to protect our right to own guns and property. Sounds pretty harsh in this day and age...but the "cold dead fingers" thing is known to all of us. I have said it myself.
Of course, a number of people extend that reasoning to other issues, and feel that violence is acceptable IF THEY ARE NOT APPEASED in every way.
That is why we see signs threatening use of violence at health care rallies...
Health care rallies with guys carrying AR-15 rifles. Wow. Signs stating that "We came unarmed...this time!"
I never saw anything even remotely like that from the Left. Not in the same ballpark...Hell...not in the same state or country.
I really do think we will see a major act of domestic terrorism or spate of shootings, and the perp(s) will have a copy of a Beck or Hannity book in the house and Fox News and Free Republic (or some such) will have a lot of hits on their computers. (Kinda like the guy who shot up the Unitarian Church in Arkansas)
There will predictable sputtering and shouts of censorship from the usual suspects...and we all will know what really happened. Speech has consequences. People act on it. Bullets and bombs can't be recalled when they are used, and dead children stay dead.
There is an air of utter insanity in the Republican Party today...and I can't see it going anywhere I want to follow. I can only watch and remember when I was proud to be a Republican, Reagan was defeating communism and life generally kicked ass all the way around.
Something happened since then...and I can't just blame the "libruls" for this. We did it to ourselves.
548 | filetandrelease Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:30:14am |
re: #544 SixDegrees
Oh, brother.
I'm sorry, but there is a significant difference. Not that it is any big deal, but just a point.
549 | poteen Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:30:42am |
re: #527 SixDegrees
Where did those numbers come from?
I found Chi. at 3.8 B and the rest at about 2.8. Given building costs that puts them all competitive finance wise.
550 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:31:26am |
I'm glad the POTUS tried to get the Olympics for Chicago. I'm also glad Rio got the games. Any so called "loss of prestige" for the Prez will soon be forgotten. The people who liked him before will still like him. And those who disliked him before will still dislike him and would not have been won over if Chicago HAD gotten the games. He did not use much political capital on this one. He has far more at stake on health care, iran, the domestic economy, and the war on terror.
551 | filetandrelease Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:32:57am |
re: #547 celticdragon
I had to down ding you on this line
I never saw much in the way of wishing death on him or Cheney,
Hell, they made a movie about it.
554 | Guanxi88 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:36:09am |
The Olympic thing shows, I think, that some folk have too great a confidence in Obama's gifts as an orator and persuader. In this case, it looks like the words changed nothing about the facts, and this is often the case.
Now, if he can't persuade a group of folks to locate a series of sporting events in a town of his choosing on the basis of his recommendation, charisma, etc., then one must wonder how very misplaced are the expectations that he can, with his mighty words, change the facts on the ground to the extent necessary to end the Arab-Israeli war or resolve the iranian nuclear crisis without recourse to arms.
I point out, however, that for all his dovish talk and waffling on additional troops for afghanistan, he has been a ruthless and effective user of drone strikes in pakistan and special forces in somalia and elsewhere. He's not the peacenik I thought him to be - truth is, I don't know what his position is, or if he even has one - maybe it's just a series of individual calculations each time a problem comes up.
555 | insert name here Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:36:17am |
re: #551 filetandrelease
I had to down ding you on this line
Hell, they made a movie about it.
What movie was that?
556 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:37:13am |
557 | SixDegrees Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:37:26am |
re: #549 poteen
Where did those numbers come from?
I found Chi. at 3.8 B and the rest at about 2.8. Given building costs that puts them all competitive finance wise.
In the news yesterday, with slight variations of a few hundred million either way.
[Link: english.sina.com...]
[Link: www.jsonline.com...]
[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]
Looks like Rio's going to spend $5 billion just on rapid transit improvements.
558 | filetandrelease Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:39:46am |
559 | insert name here Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:42:08am |
re: #558 filetandrelease
"Death of a President"
Thanks (and to Walter, too).
Never heard of it. Looks like it's a British film though, not American.
Apparently it met with much disgust on from members of both parties. Per Wikipedia:
Hillary Clinton, then junior United States Senator from New York, told The Journal News of Rockland, Westchester, and Putnam counties, New York, at the annual New Castle Community Day in Chappaqua: "I think it's despicable. I think it's absolutely outrageous. That anyone would even attempt to profit on such a horrible scenario makes me sick".
560 | celticdragon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:49:51am |
re: #551 filetandrelease
In marksmanship...a one off event (one round that for no apparent reason failed to group with the rest) is sometimes called a "flyer". That was a flyer.
Did you ever see Code Pink "wishing" for the death of Cheney? Anything of the sort at Huffington Post? Did you see any Left Wing marches on Washington that overtly threatened to bring weapons the next time? Lefties carrying firearms to political events?
I saw LOTS of demands for impeachment and prosecution. Daily. Ad Nauseum. Beyond silly.
Maybe there were unfiltered remarks at Democratic Underground or Smirking Chimp...I don't know since I didn't bother to wade through their particular brand of derangement.
I can say that the two major left leaning sites (KOS and HUffPo) didn't tolerate that sort of thing. No threats of violence. No racist remarks about Condi. No plans to carry firearms to rallies.
I also think it is rather telling that nobody on the Right took any serious concerns about a Lefty trying to commit an act of terrorism against the government. Did Malkin do any stories about her daily outrage that there where thousands of left wing threats to kill the President? I don't remember any.
*sigh*
561 | Bloodnok Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:51:54am |
re: #547 celticdragon
Excellent comment. I agree with all of it.
562 | filetandrelease Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:55:55am |
563 | poteen Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:56:02am |
Looks like Rio's going to spend $5 billion just on rapid transit improvements.
That would be 20 billion in Chi.
564 | sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 9:57:25am |
re: #560 celticdragon
Lefties carrying firearms to political events?
So the demarcation point for you is as long as nobody brings a gun to an event, it's all just harmelss protest?
The angry protest grew so violent that the Secret Service was forced to take the highly unusual step of using a backup route for Bush's motorcade because the primary route had been compromised by protesters, one of whom pounded his fist on the president's moving limousine.
A female police officer was knocked to the street by advancing protesters, badly injuring her wrist.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
But at least they didn't have guns!
/
565 | poteen Sat, Oct 3, 2009 10:00:42am |
566 | celticdragon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 10:14:49am |
re: #564 sattv4u2
re: #564 sattv4u2
Lefties carrying firearms to political events?
So the demarcation point for you is as long as nobody brings a gun to an event, it's all just harmelss protest?
The angry protest grew so violent that the Secret Service was forced to take the highly unusual step of using a backup route for Bush's motorcade because the primary route had been compromised by protesters, one of whom pounded his fist on the president's moving limousine.
That's it? Somebody pounded his fist on the Limo (the Secret Service AIC of the detail should have been sacked, btw.) and a cop got a sprained or broken wrist. That sucks.However...do you somehow equate that with the shit we are seeing now? My congressman in NC cancelled meetings after bomb and death threats related to the health care bill. People with AR-15 rifles and pistols outside a Presidential venue!
I have never seen or heard of anything even remotely like that. Ever. The last time the political volume was turned up like this, I was working on a Huey helicopter in a hanger at Hunter Army Airfield. An announcement came over the radio that a bomb had gone off in Oklahoma City.
I don't ever want to hear that report again. Wanna know the really sick thing? I was desperately hoping it was an Islamic wacko...and I was afraid it wasn't. Even at that moment, I was concerned that the Left would use it against Limbaugh (who I listened to daily) because he was the most visible mocking critic of Clinton.I wasn't so concerned with the victims, see. I was concerned about the political fallout.
Yes, I am ashamed.
567 | celticdragon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 10:22:56am |
re: #565 poteen
How so? My premise is that violent speech often precedes violent action.
I see some examples of anarchists breaking windows at the G20 and bullshit street stuff. Show me a radical Left Wing group in the last 20 years in this country whose membership could be considered a threat to the POTUS or the government in any way. Malkin and O'Reilly would have found them by now.
Violent Right Wing groups? Jesus wept.
(I will not dignify Right Wing violent paranoiacs with the label of "Conservative", since they have nothing at all in common with Locke, Hobbes, Hamilton or Burkeshotte)
568 | sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 10:26:03am |
re: #566 celticdragon
That's it? Somebody pounded his fist on the Limo
DISCLAIMER
Anyone that brings a gun to an event anywhere near ANY President is an idiot
That stated, someone with a registered open weapon in a cordoned off area where weapons are allowed is less of a threat to the President thats inside a sealed off venue as opposed to someone actually jumping onto a moving motor vehicle with a President inside.
The link and example I showed was the 1st one I came upon. It wasn't a "thats it" moment
569 | celticdragon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 10:26:34am |
re: #562 filetandrelease
The link seems to have some problems. :/
570 | sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 10:29:42am |
re: #567 celticdragon
Left Wing Extremists
(pdf)
[Link: www.osti.gov...]
More than just protest signs
[Link: www.comcast.net...]
572 | sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 10:32:01am |
573 | right_wing2 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 10:32:59am |
Last year about this time, weren't there links to a site where you could basically 'bet' on the outcome of the election? It was set up more as a trading situation rather than betting, and there were other areas like the economy (here & overseas), too.
574 | filetandrelease Sat, Oct 3, 2009 10:46:06am |
575 | celticdragon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 10:58:55am |
Okay...I was able to link this time.
Pretty good essay there at Zombie, and the question is valid. Why weren't these idiots prosecuted?
Smart money is that this was all where Bush was not present.
And again...nobody on the Right or the Left took them seriously. Guys in Mohawks? Clowns in bondage leather? LMAO!
Inept, incompetent and idiotic. They can't even get taken seriously when they are committing a Federal felony. The news media portrayed them as fringe idiots, and they got ignored. (Maybe some of those signs should have gotten more publicity...!)
Do any of you think that Bush was in any real danger from Bondage Leather Brett and the Mohawk Crew? Did anybody take any of this even remotely seriously? How can you! They are old school liberal burnouts from the 70's and 80's who still haven't clued in that Dukakis isn't running.
Personally, I take folks with guns at rallies deadly seriously. When I see signs on the Capital Mall reading"We came unarmed...this time!" while threats to the POTUS are up 400%, I take that as an overt threat. We have a history of right wing violence in this country, both organized and self radicalized. You would be a fool to not recognize that the guy with a gun (who knows how to use it) at a Tea Party event is a hell of a lot more worrisome then Bondage Leather Brett.
( I am an enthusiastic supporter of concealed carry laws. When you start carrying weapons in the open at political events...that looks like intimidation and thuggery to me, not self defense. What possible political statement can you make with a gun at a health care event??)
576 | poteen Sat, Oct 3, 2009 11:13:18am |
re: #567 celticdragon
Well which are the right wing groups?
The point is they are all violent groups who pose no threat to the POTUS or the govt. but to people and groups who they target. ELF, ALF, SLA, Weather all targeted govt. workers or govt funded institutions.
So did McViegh and Rudolph.
They both use guns and bombs.
You can draw a line at what constitutes 'fringe' whereever you want but the fact remains that violence comes from the rifle toting hate mongers AND the paper mache' and rock toting hate mongers.
577 | celticdragon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 11:28:56am |
re: #576 poteen
Well which are the right wing groups?
The point is they are all violent groups who pose no threat to the POTUS or the govt. but to people and groups who they target. ELF, ALF, SLA, Weather all targeted govt. workers or govt funded institutions.So did McViegh and Rudolph.
They both use guns and bombs.
You can draw a line at what constitutes 'fringe' whereever you want but the fact remains that violence comes from the rifle toting hate mongers AND the paper mache' and rock toting hate mongers.
Uh huh.
Which one do you think is going to be effective? Dude with a gun or Bondage Leather Brett?
Right wing groups?
Various (well armed) militias. Any number of tax resistors, including the Freemen. The Birchers. For the religious racists there is always the Christian Identity Church. They tend to be well armed. The Klan. Others I suppose none of us have heard of.
I don't know of any left wing militias. I think that is almost a contradiction in terms. I don't know of left wing tax protesters who have stand offs with Federal marshals. I don't know of any left wing groups that are stockpiling weapons. Do you? I have close friends in the militia movement, and they aren't screwing around.
As I have said before:
Nobody was in the slightest bit concerned that a left winger fanatic was going to stage the next Oklahoma City bombing. There has been no real left wing terror group (possibly exception with ELF and just maybe the Puerto Rican nationalists) since the 70's.
We all know the deal here. We saw it when the police had a shootout with two skinheads just after the inauguration(said to stockpiling guns for the next race war or whatever), and with the disgruntled guy who "wanted to kill some liberals" at a UU Church in Arkansas. Not to mention the neo Nazis who were arrested en route to Denver to hatch some plan to assassinate Obama during the Dem convention.
578 | celticdragon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 11:32:50am |
btw...
The militia my friend is in does try to weed out the pschos and sociopaths.
Some groups have standards and some don't.
579 | Dante41 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 11:53:07am |
re: #577 celticdragon
I don't know about the claim of left wing militias. I'm a Democrat, and I have heard rumblings from other Dems that they should form their own militia for protection. It is a sad, sad day when we are arming ourselves over political discourse.
OT: You get my email celticdragon?
580 | celticdragon Sat, Oct 3, 2009 11:55:48am |
re: #579 Dante41
Yep :)
I had heard about that book with the Alpha Legion.
I'll try to send you some stuff this evening.
581 | Dante41 Sat, Oct 3, 2009 12:00:02pm |
re: #580 celticdragon
Yep :)
I had heard about that book with the Alpha Legion.
I'll try to send you some stuff this evening.
Ah, good. I was afraid some of the stalker-idiots would try to send you hate-spam using my name.
582 | poteen Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:39:11pm |
re: #577 celticdragon
I don't know of any left wing militias.
ELF, ALF, SLA, Weather
Various (well armed) militias. Any number of tax resistors, including the Freemen. The Birchers
Compare their records of actual vs. potential or perceived violence.
As to racists, religious or the Klan, hardly all registered right wing republicans.
Again, you painted with a too big brush.
Extremists on both ends of the spectrum are dangerous.
Just ask a crippled lumberjack who sawed into a spiked tree.