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1 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:41:48pm

Doing some work on the blog code today. Checking out the Google Affiliate Network. You may have noticed ads from Barnes and Noble -- that's where they're coming from.

2 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:44:12pm

He really is mad, mad I tell you!

3 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:45:26pm

All those pictures of the Sea: the Sea is low.

"The Sea, universal lowness and resting place of waters."

— Leonardo da Vinci

4 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:46:27pm

Is there no low to which the Mad King Charles will not descend?

Let them eat cake !!

((Fat veggie Bastard appears in 5,4,3,,,)))

5 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:48:43pm

It's a really good short film, by the way. Very twisted in a good way.

6 katemaclaren  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:50:22pm

re: #3 Ojoe

All those pictures of the Sea: the Sea is low.

"The Sea, universal lowness and resting place of waters."

— Leonardo da Vinci

I love that quote. Thanks!

7 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:53:52pm

Why you're fat: Portion Size, Then Vs. Now

8 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:54:30pm

re: #5 Charles

I second that...Twisted is good...kind of twilight zonish

9 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:56:17pm

re: #7 Killgore Trout

Why you're fat: Portion Size, Then Vs. Now

ABSOLUTELY!
When I go to a restaurant to eat, the portion of food they serve me is enough for 3 or 4 meals.

And since people eat out more, they've come to think of those portion sizes as being "normal".

10 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:58:36pm

re: #7 Killgore Trout

re: #9 reine.de.tout

(((Bbbuuurrrppp!!)))

What? I hadn't noticed!

11 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 1:58:45pm

That was a cool film.

12 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:00:14pm

re: #9 reine.de.tout

My wife and I have taken to splitting meals at times because of portion sizes...or we'll split an entree and order extra sides...

I blame my parents for telling me to clean my plate.

13 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:01:25pm

Very creative little movie.

14 katemaclaren  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:02:07pm

Interesting little film--post structural? I let my son watch it; he was not amused, and I was surprised at his reaction.

15 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:05:21pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

That was a cool film.

One minute in it would have put me out of business if the meteorite had crushed that satellite!!

16 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:06:20pm

I see that the AGW-science deniers are still going at it down on the last AGW thread... persistent little devils, aren't they?

Oh... interesting film... kind of reminds me of something M. Night Shyamalan might produce.

17 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:07:42pm

re: #9 reine.de.tout

Reine, I just sent you some salad recipes.

18 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:08:09pm

re: #15 sattv4u2

One minute in it would have put me out of business if the meteorite had crushed that satellite!!

How many centimeters are you off?

19 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:08:51pm

re: #17 Alouette

Reine, I just sent you some salad recipes.

got 'em!
Thanks, they look great.

20 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:09:15pm

re: #18 Sharmuta

How many centimeters are you off?

Immeasurable

((trust me ,,, i've seen the doctors reports!!)))

21 Bloodnok  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:09:17pm

That was incredibly cool. And the psychiatrist looked like a younger George Carlin.

22 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:10:30pm

re: #12 PT Barnum

My wife and I have taken to splitting meals at times because of portion sizes...or we'll split an entree and order extra sides...

I blame my parents for telling me to clean my plate.

Why ,,, you would prefer to eat off of dirty dishes???

Eeewww!!

23 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:12:59pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Very creative little movie.

I liked how he tried to be analytical and scientific about it at first, but then he started drifting into kook solutions, and that made it worse.

24 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:21:07pm

re: #23 Sharmuta

I liked how he tried to be analytical and scientific about it at first, but then he started drifting into kook solutions, and that made it worse.

There's a name for that. It's human nature to often see patterns and correlations that aren't there. They've done some really interesting experiments with it but I can't remember what it's called.

25 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:22:22pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

There's a name for that. It's human nature to often see patterns and correlations that aren't there. They've done some really interesting experiments with it but I can't remember what it's called.

"WorldNetDaily"?

26 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:22:24pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

There's a name for that. It's human nature to often see patterns and correlations that aren't there. They've done some really interesting experiments with it but I can't remember what it's called.

Organized religion?

27 jaunte  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:22:51pm

re: #23 Sharmuta

---> 91cm---> It's just a question of organization...

28 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:23:40pm

re: #6 katemaclaren

You are welcome.

29 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:24:49pm

re: #26 Sharmuta

Organized religion?


It's along those lines. Eg. Someone prays for rain and then it coincidentally rains the next day. Even though there's no real proof of a correlation humans will connect the events anyways.

30 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:28:49pm

re: #29 Killgore Trout

It's along those lines. Eg. Someone prays for rain and then it coincidentally rains the next day. Even though there's no real proof of a correlation humans will connect the events anyways.

Or vice versa

A non-religious person has a run of bad luck. "Proves" to them there is no God because surely a just God would never impart bad things upon them!

31 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:29:43pm

If there are any attorneys here who wouldn't mind giving me an unofficial piece of advice about the cookbook, I would appreciate it if you'd click my nic and send me an e-mail at the email address at the cookbook blog.

Thank you!

32 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:31:26pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

There's a name for that. It's human nature to often see patterns and correlations that aren't there. They've done some really interesting experiments with it but I can't remember what it's called.



Clustering Illusion?

33 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:31:59pm

re: #30 sattv4u2

True.

34 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:32:08pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

There's a name for that. It's human nature to often see patterns and correlations that aren't there. They've done some really interesting experiments with it but I can't remember what it's called.

Cognitive bias?

35 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:32:40pm

re: #29 Killgore Trout

Michael Shermer discusses this a little in Why Darwin Matters.

36 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:33:18pm

re: #32 reine.de.tout

Ah, that might be it.

37 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:34:15pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

Ah, that might be it.

Six Degrees also linked to something called "cognitive bias".

38 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:34:54pm

re: #37 reine.de.tout

Six Degrees also linked to something called "cognitive bias".

It looks to me like "clustering illusion" might be a type of cognitive bias.

39 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:37:14pm

Seems that Palin's great accomplishment as Governor may be getting some scrutiny:

Alaskans wait to see if Palin's gas pipeline plan will produce state's next big economic boom

Sarah Palin hit the vice presidential campaign trail last year and touted what Alaska could provide for the rest of America — a natural gas pipeline to help lead the country to energy independence.

When a pipeline might be built remains a giant question for Alaskans who need the project to support a vulnerable economy and for the Lower 48 states that need the gas, and a petroleum economist who spent more than 25 years in the Alaska Department of Revenue says it may never happen under Palin's plan.

The former governor's proposal used faulty accounting to reach the flawed conclusion that a pipeline owned by a third-party would be more profitable than one owned by major gas producers, who must be on board for any project to be successful, wrote Roger Marks, in his paper, "Why America May Not See Alaska Natural Gas Soon," published last month in the Journal of Economic Issues.

Palin's alternative, Marks said, discourages their participation and may even stand in the way of a more financially viable project.

[..]

Her successor and his minions are still backing the plan. Time will tell who was right about this one.

40 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:38:14pm

Ah here's what I was think about...
Derren Brown Trick or Treat Series 2 Episode 6 - Part 1

skip to about 1:30 to get right to the demonstration.

41 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:41:22pm

re: #37 reine.de.tout

Six Degrees also linked to something called "cognitive bias".

well sometimes things really do consistantly suck.

42 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:41:36pm

re: #40 Killgore Trout

Shit embedding disabled...
Derren Brown Trick or Treat Series 2 Episode 6 - Part 1
Experiment starts at 1:30

43 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:44:56pm

re: #37 reine.de.tout

Six Degrees also linked to something called "cognitive bias".

I particularly like this one:

Texas sharpshooter fallacy — the fallacy of selecting or adjusting a hypothesis after the data is collected, making it impossible to test the hypothesis fairly. Refers to the concept of firing shots at a barn door, drawing a circle around the best group, and declaring that to be the target.

44 metrolibertarian  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:45:18pm

For anyone who watched the Buccaneers-Patriots game, did Kellen Winslow crash his motorcycle or something during the game? Where the hell was he?

45 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:48:25pm
46 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:49:04pm

re: #43 SixDegrees

particularly like this one:

Texas sharpshooter fallacy — the fallacy of selecting or adjusting a hypothesis after the data is collected, making it impossible to test the hypothesis fairly. Refers to the concept of firing shots at a barn door, drawing a circle around the best group, and declaring that to be the target.

LOL!
Wait - why am I laughing?
I've done that.

47 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:50:24pm

It is all uphill from the beach.

48 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:50:36pm

re: #43 SixDegrees

we call that a focus group...

49 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:51:02pm

re: #48 brookly red

we call that a focus group...

Heh.

50 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:52:06pm

re: #46 reine.de.tout

LOL!
Wait - why am I laughing?
I've done that.

I ran my love life with that method for many years.

51 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:52:32pm

re: #49 SixDegrees

Heh.

circling the tightest group...

52 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:54:08pm

re: #49 SixDegrees

Heh.

Note: for a very long time, I've used 'heh' as a stand-in for a sort of chuckle. I see that it has entered the web lexicon, with a slightly different meaning that can be (but isn't always) derogatory. This just came to my attention, and I've never meant it that way, in this post or any past posts. I hope I haven't offended anyone - if I did, it was inadvertent.

Switch that to 'LOL', which I guess is what I'll use in the future.

53 tradewind  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:54:49pm

This is so fascinating and strange, since in my city there are currently seven public health department locations ( not including private pediatricians) offering free h1N1 vacs to any child nine months to eighteen years, with no income restrictions or preexisting health condition requirements.
[Link: whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com...]
(And didn't one child's severe allergies supposedly require a special non-shedding dog breed when considering the First Pup)?

54 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:55:28pm

re: #52 SixDegrees

Note: for a very long time, I've used 'heh' as a stand-in for a sort of chuckle. I see that it has entered the web lexicon, with a slightly different meaning that can be (but isn't always) derogatory. This just came to my attention, and I've never meant it that way, in this post or any past posts. I hope I haven't offended anyone - if I did, it was inadvertent.

Switch that to 'LOL', which I guess is what I'll use in the future.

/and here I thought you meant WTF?

55 tradewind  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:56:18pm

re: #52 SixDegrees

Well... me too. Do we owe apologies?
///

56 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:57:40pm

re: #54 brookly red

/and here I thought you meant WTF?

I just can't keep up with those damned whippersnappers and all their newfangled lingo.

(Note that Firefox doesn't flag a single misspelling in the preceding sentence.)

57 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 2:58:35pm

re: #56 SixDegrees

I just can't keep up with those damned whippersnappers and all their newfangled lingo.

(Note that Firefox doesn't flag a single misspelling in the preceding sentence.)

it's all good...

58 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:00:25pm

re: #56 SixDegrees

I just can't keep up with those damned whippersnappers and all their newfangled lingo.

(Note that Firefox doesn't flag a single misspelling in the preceding sentence.)


and btw 60 words a minute no longer means typing... it means texting. : (

59 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:00:36pm

Some cool modern dance.

Beautiful and strange.

61 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:04:05pm

re: #39 freetoken

Seems that Palin's great accomplishment as Governor may be getting some scrutiny:

Alaskans wait to see if Palin's gas pipeline plan will produce state's next big economic boom

Her successor and his minions are still backing the plan. Time will tell who was right about this one.

Speaking of whom...

62 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:05:17pm

re: #53 tradewind

1) Fox seems to be the only one reporting that story 2) anyone else reporting it seems to be citing Fox 3) There seems to be a vaccine shortage so if Obama's daughters got one people would complain that they were getting preferential treatment.
Nontroversy.

63 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:06:00pm

I survived my trip to Jones Phone Company stadium last night. This is more than I can say for the Texas Tech Red Raiders (now known as the Dead Raiders) who disgraced themselves by not only losing to the detested Texas Aggies, but by doing so in an enormous way.

Consider: Two weeks ago, the now-Dead Raiders routed Kansas State 66-14. Last week that self-same K-State team demolished the Aggies 62-14. Even considering the notoriously poor reliability of comparing scores, the Aggie cultists should not have had a chance when they came to Lubbock.

Somebody forgot to tell them though, because they embarrassed the Raiders 52-30 and the game was not actually as close as the score. TTU quarterback Taylor Potts was pulled in the third quarter, after 2 interceptions and a fumble. His replacement, one Seth Doegle, a redshirt freshman, did a fair amount better but the real story was the feeble effort of the Tech defensive line, which was pushed all over the field as the Ags rushed for more than 300 yards. Add to that a mass of missed tackles, dropped passes, and ill-timed penalties, and the Raiders would have had a hard team beating some of the local high schools.

The result will be a whole year of insufferable boasting and gloating from the already in-sufferable Aggies. Thanks, Raiders. Try showing up next time.

64 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:14:33pm

re: #59 Ojoe

Some cool modern dance.

Beautiful and strange.

Sure is.

I saw this troupe in Seoul this past summer:

65 Four More Tears  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:16:07pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

Ever see Derren Brown hyponotize a group of otherwise normal-seeming people into robbing an armored car?

66 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:19:09pm

re: #65 JasonA

Ever see Derren Brown hyponotize a group of otherwise normal-seeming people into robbing an armored car?

/damn! why didn't my lawyer think of that?

67 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:21:25pm

re: #65 JasonA

I thought that hypnotism didn't work like that.

68 Four More Tears  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:24:45pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

He handpicks the ones he thinks are most-likely to be receptive and then conditions over the course of several days or more. I think he ended up with four and three of them carried it out.

69 tradewind  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:25:51pm

re: #57 brookly red

re: #62 Killgore Trout
I didn't say it was a controversy, nor do I think it is one. It's just weird. There's no good reason for them not to have been vaccinated unless one of their parents is iffy about it. You would expect First Daughters to get more careful attention than the general population... see the fact that they attend Sidwell Friends, and not DC public schools... it just makes sense.
BTW... re the ' it's only Fox ' thing...
There are a lot of stories no one else reports,until forced. This was voiced on Meet The Press this morning by Joe Scarborough, and strangely enough, none of the other panel members really disagreed with his assessment.

70 Four More Tears  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:27:52pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

Here it is. The Heist.

71 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:29:10pm

re: #1 Charles

Doing some work on the blog code today. Checking out the Google Affiliate Network. You may have noticed ads from Barnes and Noble -- that's where they're coming from.

Suggestion: That widget that lets us embed mp3 files is great. How about doing the same thing for .wav files?

72 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:29:17pm

re: #69 tradewind

They may be waiting a bit so as to not give an appearance of favoritism or elitism.

73 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:29:31pm

re: #69 tradewind

re: #62 Killgore Trout
I didn't say it was a controversy, nor do I think it is one. It's just weird. There's no good reason for them not to have been vaccinated unless one of their parents is iffy about it. You would expect First Daughters to get more careful attention than the general population... see the fact that they attend Sidwell Friends, and not DC public schools... it just makes sense.
BTW... re the ' it's only Fox ' thing...
There are a lot of stories no one else reports,until forced. This was voiced on Meet The Press this morning by Joe Scarborough, and strangely enough, none of the other panel members really disagreed with his assessment.

you make a good point, but Heh? my 57 was to 6...

74 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:30:36pm

oh a glitch... never mind.

75 [deleted]  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:31:24pm
76 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:33:20pm

re: #70 JasonA

Cool, thanks.

77 Four More Tears  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:34:18pm

re: #76 Killgore Trout

And you're right; "hypnotize" is the wrong word to use.

78 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:35:08pm

re: 75

huh?

79 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:36:04pm

re: #78 brookly red

A slur... from a creationist no less... who would have thunk it?

80 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:37:16pm

re: #79 freetoken

A slur... from a creationist no less... who would have thunk it?

do people really have time to do that shit?

81 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:39:20pm

re: #80 brookly red

do people really have time to do that shit?

Evidence forces us to say - yes.

82 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:42:32pm

re: #39 freetoken

Mmnh. Sarah Palin and faulty data. Go figure.

83 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:43:07pm

Speaking of idiots with too much time on their hands, Australian con-man cum-"scientist" Ian Plimer is punked once again, this time by chemist Prof. Rabett:

Ian Plimer is a con artist

Plimer's book has been all over the denial-o-sphere, and was linked here several times by people now banned...

84 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:43:40pm

re: #82 Cato the Elder

Mmnh. Sarah Palin and faulty data. Go figure.

/I heard she shot lincoln too...

85 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:44:02pm

re: #83 freetoken

Also blogged here:

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]

86 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:46:18pm

re: #82 Cato the Elder

Mmnh. Sarah Palin and faulty data. Go figure.

iPhone apps review on my FB page, if you're interested.

87 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:46:29pm

re: #64 The Sanity Inspector

They remind me a bit of Cirque de Soliel. (sp)

88 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:47:50pm

re: #53 tradewind

This is so fascinating and strange, since in my city there are currently seven public health department locations ( not including private pediatricians) offering free h1N1 vacs to any child nine months to eighteen years, with no income restrictions or preexisting health condition requirements.
[Link: whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com...]
(And didn't one child's severe allergies supposedly require a special non-shedding dog breed when considering the First Pup)?

1.) Story dated October 8, making the current state of H1N1 availability in your city comparatively irrelevant.

2.) If they had gotten the vaccine at a point when they were not eligible, that would have been the story.

3.) The kids should be off limits, period. That Fox blog is treading dangerously close to using two children to stoke anti-vaxxer / anti-government sentiment by implying that Obama not vaccinating his kids is a story.

4.) You bringing up Sasha's allergies is reads like an attempt to pick up that inappropriate innuendo and run with it.

89 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:48:37pm

re: #85 Conservative Moonbat

Thanks. Plimer's nuttiness goes far beyond his lies about the CO2 books being cooked... his ideas about the sun are ludicrous. Nevertheless, if you look at the Amazon reviews for his latest book the AGW-is-a-hoax crowd eat up Plimer's idiocy.

90 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:51:06pm

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

1.) Story dated October 8, making the current state of H1N1 availability in your city comparatively irrelevant.

2.) If they had gotten the vaccine at a point when they were not eligible, that would have been the story.

3.) The kids should be off limits, period. That Fox blog is treading dangerously close to using two children to stoke anti-vaxxer / anti-government sentiment by implying that Obama not vaccinating his kids is a story.

4.) You bringing up Sasha's allergies is reads like an attempt to pick up that inappropriate innuendo and run with it.

At the time that statement was issued, supply was being reserved for those with chronic conditions:

President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.

The Centers for Disease Control recommend that children ages 6 months through 18 years of age receive a vaccination against the H1N1 flu virus. At this time only children with chronic medical conditions are receiving the vaccination because their immune system is not strong enough to fight off the strain. The CDC also says a regular seasonal flu shot does not protect against the virus.

The Fox story I read made it sound sort of like the Obama children were not being vaccinated for some sort of secret sinister reason.

91 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:51:14pm

re: #89 freetoken

Thanks. Plimer's nuttiness goes far beyond his lies about the CO2 books being cooked... his ideas about the sun are ludicrous. Nevertheless, if you look at the Amazon reviews for his latest book the AGW-is-a-hoax crowd eat up Plimer's idiocy.

what are his ideas about the sun? I am too lazy to Googel.

92 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:52:59pm

re: #91 brookly red

Plimer in his nuttiness references an even nuttier guy who thinks the Sun is composed of iron.

93 Summer Seale  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:54:19pm

That was a really awesome movie. Really mysterious and funny at the same time too. =) The translation was really on point btw.

94 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:54:47pm

re: #90 reine.de.tout

I had a bad reaction to a "flu" shot a few years ago. Since then I have not had any "flu" shot.

95 Dante41  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:54:58pm

Good afternoon, Lizards. My Texans won today, and I won $100 bucks in the lottery, so I am flying high right now. To make it better, I just saw something on Fark: The Nirthers got Rickrolled. (Warning: Kos link.)

I can't decide whether to laugh at them, or cry that they fell for it.

96 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:55:05pm

re: #92 freetoken

Plimer in his nuttiness references an even nuttier guy who thinks the Sun is composed of iron.

that is nutty...

/iron can't burn I learned that from Rosie : )

97 Kronocide  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:55:31pm

re: #92 freetoken

Plimer in his nuttiness references an even nuttier guy who thinks the Sun is composed of iron.

Yes, really hot iron. Lots of really hot iron.

98 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:56:23pm

re: #97 BigPapa

Yes, really hot iron. Lots of really hot iron.

easy now...

99 Summer Seale  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:56:25pm

re: #94 PhillyPretzel

I had a bad reaction to a "flu" shot a few years ago. Since then I have not had any "flu" shot.

My flu shot is Johnnie Walker Black or Blue.

100 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:57:01pm

re: #99 Summer

LOL.

101 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 3:57:50pm

re: #99 Summer

My flu shot is Johnnie Walker Black or Blue.

I feel a sniffel commin on... whatcah doin later?

102 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:01:41pm

re: #99 Summer

My flu shot is Johnnie Walker Black or Blue.

Sure you don't mean "painkiller"?

103 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:02:08pm

OT, but is there any particular set of etiquette when doing up and down dings..I suspect I have flouted custom in another thread by downdinging someone for making statements that I thought were particularly asshattish, but I was arguing with them at the time. If that's not cool, I want to know so I can apologize...and reform my behavior.

104 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:03:51pm

re: #94 PhillyPretzel

I had a bad reaction to a "flu" shot a few years ago. Since then I have not had any "flu" shot.

That's your choice, as an adult. But why do you put the word "flu" in scare quotes?

105 Summer Seale  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:03:56pm

re: #102 The Sanity Inspector

Sure you don't mean "painkiller"?

Tha' too.

106 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:04:20pm

re: #103 PT Barnum

OT, but is there any particular set of etiquette when doing up and down dings..I suspect I have flouted custom in another thread by downdinging someone for making statements that I thought were particularly asshattish, but I was arguing with them at the time. If that's not cool, I want to know so I can apologize...and reform my behavior.

you like it ding up, no ding down but it goes both ways...

107 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:05:39pm

re: #103 PT Barnum

He who lives by the ding dies by the ding.

To ding or not to ding, that is the question.

Is it better to have dinged and lost, than to have never dinged at all?

108 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:05:43pm

re: #106 brookly red

I don't have a problem with that...Is there any particular significance to karma other than showing how many people agree with you or don't disagree with you? I mean if you get below a certain ratio of karma to posts does Charles give you virtual noogies or something?

109 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:06:15pm

re: #90 reine.de.tout

The Fox story I read made it sound sort of like the Obama children were not being vaccinated for some sort of secret sinister reason.

Exactly, and people wonder why the administration doesn't feel like treating Fox as a legitimate news source when they are pulling stunts like this.

110 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:07:28pm

re: #103 PT Barnum

OT, but is there any particular set of etiquette when doing up and down dings.

Nope.

111 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:07:56pm

re: #108 PT Barnum

I don't have a problem with that...Is there any particular significance to karma other than showing how many people agree with you or don't disagree with you? I mean if you get below a certain ratio of karma to posts does Charles give you virtual noogies or something?

not that I know of... if your karma is that low it's probably because you are not playing nice & will get banned anyway... IMO.

112 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:08:38pm

re: #107 freetoken

I generally don't downding unless I think someone's argument is full of what a stockyard is full of that you don't want to step in.

I am fairly generous with updings, so I think I'm doing it right until someone tells me otherwise.

113 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:08:40pm

re: #108 PT Barnum

Nah, I think it's just meant to be a general guidline. When some other blog links to an offensive comment on LGF with lots of downdings it shows that we find it offensive too.

114 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:08:57pm

re: #103 PT Barnum

OT, but is there any particular set of etiquette when doing up and down dings..I suspect I have flouted custom in another thread by downdinging someone for making statements that I thought were particularly asshattish, but I was arguing with them at the time. If that's not cool, I want to know so I can apologize...and reform my behavior.

Ding 'em like you see 'em. There will always be someone who disagrees with your ding, just like there will always be someone who disagrees with your post, on a hot topic.

115 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:09:11pm

BTW, there are a lot of people looking to dig up dirt on us these days.

116 Bagua  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:09:40pm

re: #111 brookly red

not that I know of... if your karma is that low it's probably because you are not playing nice & will get banned anyway... IMO.

spacejesus falsifies your opinion

117 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:09:42pm

re: #113 Killgore Trout

That tells me what I wanted to know. The person I'm debating has a fairly low karma, so I am going to take them with a grain of salt and a shot of tequila...

118 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:09:42pm

re: #108 PT Barnum

I don't have a problem with that...Is there any particular significance to karma other than showing how many people agree with you or don't disagree with you? I mean if you get below a certain ratio of karma to posts does Charles give you virtual noogies or something?

We can redeem karma points for prizes, like a a snazzy frisbee or a stuffed animal. I'm saving up for a Roomba.

119 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:10:07pm

re: #117 PT Barnum

Cheers!

120 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:10:20pm

re: #103 PT Barnum

OT, but is there any particular set of etiquette when doing up and down dings..I suspect I have flouted custom in another thread by downdinging someone for making statements that I thought were particularly asshattish, but I was arguing with them at the time. If that's not cool, I want to know so I can apologize...and reform my behavior.

Well, of course ... thou shalt always ding up the reine.

Otherwise - your dings are yours to use as you deem appropriate. I find that if I save my downdings for what I think is sheer idiocy or troll-like behavior, rather than simply a disagreement with someone, it's easier to continue to converse courteously with the person I disagree with.

I sometimes use updings to indicate "yes, I saw your response to me".

121 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:10:30pm

re: #112 PT Barnum

Ding, at it will be dinged unto you.

122 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:11:23pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

BTW, there are a lot of people looking to dig up dirt on us these days.


Who is "us".

/Who are "us"?

123 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:11:42pm

re: #118 Sharmuta

You get a upding for that one..!

I dunno about the roomba..if I can get a Rug Doctor that will eat my Lhaso Apso before he pees on the carpet, I'd like one of those...damn little dog.

I am going to have to crate train him all over again at this rate.

124 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:11:50pm

re: #5 Charles

It's a really good short film, by the way. Very twisted in a good way.

Sinister would be a better word, and I know where of I speak. Look carefully at those grey images and the world they portray. It's a little government-financed (note the credits at the beginning) parable about the end of an admirable civilization and what used to be pretty wonderful people. It's all summed up near the end, at around 11:22. Amelie aside, this is pretty much representative of French creativity these days. A vision of a sort of post-Soviet existential hell in various shades of grey. Tourists and visitors generally don't see it: they're moving targets. Anyone who has lived here for any length of time will know exactly what I'm talking about.

125 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:11:51pm

Ask not for whom the dinger dings. It dings for you.

126 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:13:22pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

Exactly, and people wonder why the administration doesn't feel like treating Fox as a legitimate news source when they are pulling stunts like this.

uhhh, no.

127 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:14:00pm

re: #104 Cato the Elder

It was how I was taught. I know the word is influenza.

128 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:14:29pm

As long as we're talking about

dings...

129 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:17:14pm

PC Mag has some helpful tips on installing Windows 7.

130 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:17:45pm

Speaking of AGW-deniers, we just had someone post a link to the notorious Bob Carter, yet another nutter from down under.

131 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:18:34pm

re: #128 PT Barnum

As long as we're talking about

dings...

A cosmic injustice, that such a pioneer of music gets his only #1 record for that POS.

132 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:19:15pm

re: #59 Ojoe

Some cool modern dance.

Beautiful and strange.

She owes it all (those moves, that style) to the pioneer American dancer and choreographer Martha Graham and - more recently - the sublime Lucinda Childs.

Yep, I'm really down on the French this evening.

133 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:19:30pm

I see Malkin is busy stirring shit and banging the monkey cage bars over Newt Gingrich, attempting to equate him with Al Sharpton, of all people.

134 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:20:58pm

re: #133 SixDegrees

I see Malkin is busy stirring shit and banging the monkey cage bars over Newt Gingrich, attempting to equate him with Al Sharpton, of all people.

I am snarkless...

135 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:21:20pm

re: #133 SixDegrees

Which tells us that the wingnuts are starting to get frantic. Newt is a classic politician - he looks to build coalitions wherever he can, to further as much of his agenda as possible.

Not pure enough for the true conservatives.

136 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:22:04pm

re: #133 SixDegrees

I see Malkin is busy stirring shit and banging the monkey cage bars over Newt Gingrich, attempting to equate him with Al Sharpton, of all people.

Is that the one with the headline about the Dallas Tea Partiers "pushing bacK' against Newt?

Interesting that she would think the Dallas Tea Party folks are the voice of the "conservative" Republicans - as if no conservative Republican exists outside of the Tea Party folks.

137 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:23:32pm

re: #136 reine.de.tout

Is that the one with the headline about the Dallas Tea Partiers "pushing bacK' against Newt?

Interesting that she would think the Dallas Tea Party folks are the voice of the "conservative" Republicans - as if no conservative Republican exists outside of the Tea Party folks.

or outside of Texas...

138 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:23:33pm

re: #135 freetoken

Which tells us that the wingnuts are starting to get frantic. Newt is a classic politician - he looks to build coalitions wherever he can, to further as much of his agenda as possible.

Not pure enough for the true conservatives.

Gingrich, for all his faults, is a brilliant strategist, one of the few who is capable of seeing the big picture, of developing long-term plans and carrying them out. He is one of the few solid assets the Conservative movement has at it's disposal. It is incredibly foolish to toss such talent aside, especially in such a repulsive and vulgar manner.

139 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:24:08pm

re: #136 reine.de.tout

Is that the one with the headline about the Dallas Tea Partiers "pushing bacK' against Newt?

Interesting that she would think the Dallas Tea Party folks are the voice of the "conservative" Republicans - as if no conservative Republican exists outside of the Tea Party folks.

Yeah, that's it.

140 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:25:18pm

WEll off to get din din for the bottomless pit that is my 8 year old's appetite. He must be getting ready for a growth spurt or something. BBL

141 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:25:26pm

re: #138 SixDegrees

Gingrich, for all his faults, is a brilliant strategist, one of the few who is capable of seeing the big picture, of developing long-term plans and carrying them out. He is one of the few solid assets the Conservative movement has at it's disposal. It is incredibly foolish to toss such talent aside, especially in such a repulsive and vulgar manner.

don't worry about it too much... it's MM we are talking bout.

142 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:26:13pm

Note that "Josef K." - the name on that sinister little film - is also the name of Franz Kafka's hapless main character in both The Trial and The Castle. Kafka wrote in German. His gravestone is funny-looking. There is also a creepy statue of him in Prague, city of the golem, who is Darth Vader projected into the past from an even more distant past.

And skhizein is Greek for "to split".

I think Charles is trying to tell us something.

143 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:26:31pm

Elephants Never Forget a Friend

144 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:26:51pm

re: #140 PT Barnum

That sounds like a growth spurt to me. My nephews did the same thing.

145 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:27:08pm

re: #138 SixDegrees

In a nutshell, they're pissed because Gingrich chastened the loons for interfering in local politics at the expense of the overall GOP, in reference to Dede Scozzafava in New York.

And Malkin's already pronounced her to be worse than the worst RINO ever, so even a hint of anything short of utter condemnation of her is heresy in Malkin's eyes.

146 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:27:42pm

re: #136 reine.de.tout

There are rumours that the Tea Parties are going to break all ties to the Republicans and align with some Texas secessionist group. I think it would be for the best.

147 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:29:34pm

re: #138 SixDegrees

Gingrich, for all his faults, is was a brilliant strategist, one of the few who is was capable of seeing the big picture, of developing long-term plans and carrying them out. He is was one of the few solid assets the Conservative movement has at it's disposal.

FTFY

148 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:29:41pm

re: #146 Killgore Trout

There are rumours that the Tea Parties are going to break all ties to the Republicans and align with some Texas secessionist group. I think it would be for the best.

funny thing how rumors start...

149 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:29:48pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

Elephants Never Forget a Friend

Well, after all - an elephant's faithful, one hundred percent.

150 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:30:18pm

re: #142 Cato the Elder

Note that "Josef K." - the name on that sinister little film - is also the name of Franz Kafka's hapless main character in both The Trial and The Castle. Kafka wrote in German. His gravestone is funny-looking. There is also a creepy statue of him in Prague, city of the golem, who is Darth Vader projected into the past from an even more distant past.

And skhizein is Greek for "to split".

I think Charles is trying to tell us something.

I think you just told us something.

Connect the dots.

151 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:30:27pm

re: #146 Killgore Trout

There are rumours that the Tea Parties are going to break all ties to the Republicans and align with some Texas secessionist group. I think it would be for the best.

I saw some hints of that too - somewhere. Going to be an interesting next few years.

152 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:31:41pm

re: #146 Killgore Trout

There are rumours that the Tea Parties are going to break all ties to the Republicans and align with some Texas secessionist group. I think it would be for the best.

That would be welcome news. It would help flush them out of the GOP that much faster and deprive them of the name recognition they're currently enjoying through their association with a major political party.

Maybe they'll all start wearing feather boas.

153 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:32:43pm

re: #151 reine.de.tout

That reminds me of an ancient Chinese proverb: "May you live in interesting times." I personally prefer quiet and uninteresting.

154 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:34:00pm

Today was my husband's birthday, and I made for dinner: grilled London Broil, Pomegranate tossed salad, Galilee Sweet Potatoes, and Golan Heights Merlot.

Reine, here is the recipe for Galilee Sweet Potatoes, quite a unique and refreshing change from American-style sweet potatoes dripping with marshmallows, syrup and honey.

Galilee Sweet Potatoes
Category: side dish
4 large sweet potatoes, scrubbed
1 Tbsp. extra virgin olive oil
¼ tsp. salt
¼ tsp. pepper
½ tsp. crushed fresh rosemary
Preheat oven to 375.
Split each sweet potato lengthwise and arrange in baking dish.
Drizzle with olive oil, and sprinkle with salt, pepper and rosemary.
Bake uncovered for 45 min. If tops look dried out, drizzle with more olive oil.
Serves 8 as a side dish.

155 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:34:26pm

re: #152 SixDegrees

We should be that lucky.

156 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:34:39pm

re: #103 PT Barnum

OT, but is there any particular set of etiquette when doing up and down dings..I suspect I have flouted custom in another thread by downdinging someone for making statements that I thought were particularly asshattish, but I was arguing with them at the time. If that's not cool, I want to know so I can apologize...and reform my behavior.

That was my question a few days ago. Consensus: Ain't no big ding.

157 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:35:09pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

Elephants Never Forget a Friend

I thought this was going to be a Republican joke.

Thanks, that video is amazing.

158 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:35:12pm

re: #152 SixDegrees

Well I think the TP groups will run after power & I bet they keep running after the GOP until in the popular mind the Texas secessionists, whoever they are, appear more powerful than the GOP. Which I think is quite unlikely.

159 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:35:39pm

Martha Graham:

Lucinda Childs:

160 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:35:48pm

re: #153 PhillyPretzel

That reminds me of an ancient Chinese proverb: "May you live in interesting times." I personally prefer quiet and uninteresting.

Do you really?
I would think that would be sort of boring.
When there's nothing that has to be sifted and sorted and thought through - well heck, I might as well be staring at some mindless stuff on the tv. Like for instance, "Dog the Bounty Hunter" (my secret indulgence).

161 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:36:20pm

re: #154 Alouette

Today was my husband's birthday, and I made for dinner: grilled London Broil, Pomegranate tossed salad, Galilee Sweet Potatoes, and Golan Heights Merlot.

Reine, here is the recipe for Galilee Sweet Potatoes, quite a unique and refreshing change from American-style sweet potatoes dripping with marshmallows, syrup and honey.

Galilee Sweet Potatoes
Category: side dish
4 large sweet potatoes, scrubbed
1 Tbsp. extra virgin olive oil
¼ tsp. salt
¼ tsp. pepper
½ tsp. crushed fresh rosemary
Preheat oven to 375.
Split each sweet potato lengthwise and arrange in baking dish.
Drizzle with olive oil, and sprinkle with salt, pepper and rosemary.
Bake uncovered for 45 min. If tops look dried out, drizzle with more olive oil.
Serves 8 as a side dish.

OK - got it!

162 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:36:24pm

re: #154 Alouette

That sounds good. I am courious about the wine. Is it Yarden?

163 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:37:12pm

re: #160 reine.de.tout

Yes. I like quiet.

164 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:37:24pm

re: #158 Ojoe

Well I think the TP groups will run after power & I bet they keep running after the GOP until in the popular mind the Texas secessionists, whoever they are, appear more powerful than the GOP. Which I think is quite unlikely.

/right now my local girl scouts chapter seems more powerful than the GOP...

165 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:37:34pm

re: #159 ryannon

M.G. always gets an up-ding.

166 Summer Seale  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:38:33pm

re: #124 ryannon

Sinister would be a better word, and I know where of I speak. Look carefully at those grey images and the world they portray. It's a little government-financed (note the credits at the beginning) parable about the end of an admirable civilization and what used to be pretty wonderful people. It's all summed up near the end, at around 11:22. Amelie aside, this is pretty much representative of French creativity these days. A vision of a sort of post-Soviet existential hell in various shades of grey. Tourists and visitors generally don't see it: they're moving targets. Anyone who has lived here for any length of time will know exactly what I'm talking about.

I just came back from 3 months being in France with one month back in the states in between.

I kinda have to agree in a way. It's true. It's a very "post-apocalyptic" kinda society as well. They're really into urban depression in their art.

I am generalizing, but it's still on point.

167 Bagua  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:38:45pm

re: #153 PhillyPretzel

That reminds me of an ancient Chinese proverb: "May you live in interesting times." I personally prefer quiet and uninteresting.

You are correct in your preference, the "proverb" was a curse.

168 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:40:43pm

re: #167 Bagua

Yes. I know. That is why I prefer peace and quiet.

169 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:41:05pm

re: #162 PhillyPretzel

That sounds good. I am courious about the wine. Is it Yarden?

It is Golan Merlot. Excellent.

We were going to take a wine-tasting tour of the Golan Heights winery, but with my grandson's bris and everything, got pushed aside.

170 Sharmuta  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:41:23pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

That was really sweet.

171 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:41:41pm

re: #124 ryannon

Sinister would be a better word, and I know where of I speak. Look carefully at those grey images and the world they portray. It's a little government-financed (note the credits at the beginning) parable about the end of an admirable civilization and what used to be pretty wonderful people. It's all summed up near the end, at around 11:22. Amelie aside, this is pretty much representative of French creativity these days. A vision of a sort of post-Soviet existential hell in various shades of grey. Tourists and visitors generally don't see it: they're moving targets. Anyone who has lived here for any length of time will know exactly what I'm talking about.

Right. Every European I know is miserably unhappy and wants to live in America, the shining city on the hill.

Not.

172 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:42:14pm

re: #5 Charles

It's a really good short film, by the way. Very twisted in a good way.

did somebody say "Twisted?"

173 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:42:22pm

re: #169 Alouette

oh. Okay. I understand. Thank you.

174 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:43:06pm

re: #167 Bagua

You are correct in your preference, the "proverb" was a curse.

well I was going to leave it alone but the curse is " may your children live in interesting times"...

175 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:43:09pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

Elephants Never Forget a Friend

[Video]

Elephants are amazing critters.
Dogs too.
The only thing I did not like was the little lecture at the end. Just . . .aggravates me.

176 Bagua  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:43:55pm

The possible origin"

"It's better to be a dog in a peaceful time than be a man in a chaotic period"

.
Woof.

177 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:44:35pm

re: #166 Summer

Did you manage to see any of the Paris fashion shows? It's the best thing going, from any point of view.

178 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:45:01pm

re: #175 reine.de.tout

Elephants are amazing critters.
Dogs too.
The only thing I did not like was the little lecture at the end. Just . . .aggravates me.

The horrible pun at the beginning was a bit much, too.

179 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:45:13pm

re: #166 Summer

Pessimism has taken over in lots of Europe. I used to live there. I couldn't stand it. It was stifling. I wanted to scream.

180 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:45:22pm

My favorite elephant video:

181 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:45:29pm

re: #171 Cato the Elder

Right. Every European I know is miserably unhappy and wants to live in America, the shining city on the hill.

Not.

We don't move in the same circles.

182 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:45:29pm

re: #176 Bagua

The possible origin"

"It's better to be a dog in a peaceful time than be a man in a chaotic period"

.
Woof.

so your the guy who took my fortune cookie...

183 Bagua  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:45:38pm

re: #174 brookly red

There are several variations.

184 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:46:47pm

re: #179 Ojoe

Pessimism has taken over in lots of Europe. I used to live there. I couldn't stand it. It was stifling. I wanted to scream.

Ya' think?

Image: the_scream_edvard_munch.jpg

185 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:47:01pm

re: #183 Bagua

There are several variations.

the point remains the same, interesting does not mean good...

186 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:47:40pm

re: #178 Cato the Elder

The horrible pun at the beginning was a bit much, too.

I dunno - "pack their derms" - I laughed.
But the Roi tells me I am very easily amused.

187 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:47:41pm

re: #181 ryannon

We don't move in the same circles.

I tend to go forward, myself.

188 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:48:07pm

Good Night Fellow Lizards.

189 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:49:27pm

re: #154 Alouette

Nice. I love sweet potatoes but I hate it when people add sugar, orange juice or marshmallows.

190 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:50:21pm

re: #187 Cato the Elder

I tend to go forward, myself.

Yeah, but mainly in reverse.

This one's for you, my friend:

191 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:50:22pm

re: #175 reine.de.tout

The only thing I did not like was the little lecture at the end. Just . . .aggravates me.


Me too. It was such a touching story but they just couldn't resist ruining it at the end.

192 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:50:29pm

Also note that this "film" (= ominous piece of Euro mindf*cking intended to make your kids convert to Islam) was produit par Dark Prince.

I rest my case.

193 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:50:39pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Nice. I love sweet potatoes but I hate it when people add sugar, orange juice or marshmallows.

Sweet potatoes actually have a taste of their own.

194 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:50:55pm
195 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:51:38pm

re: #192 Cato the Elder

Also note that this "film" (= ominous piece of Euro mindf*cking intended to make your kids convert to Islam) was produit par Dark Prince.

I rest my case.

You're making my case splendidly, old boy.

196 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:53:17pm

re: #193 Alouette

Sweet potatoes actually have a taste of their own.

I love em, but keep em away from my pizza... ight?

197 Racer X  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:54:38pm

Cool film.

198 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:56:01pm

re: #194 Killgore Trout

Might avoid that "cooked palm" effect. Carving isn't my art--did
last year's with a hole saw on a 24v drill.

199 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:57:41pm

re: #195 ryannon

You're making my case splendidly, old boy.

Since I have no idea what your case is, perhaps you'd care to spell it out for me. I'm thick.

Something to do with how the Euros are all post-postmodern post-Christian angst-ridden unhappy alienated depressives who wish they lived in Utah and had real doorknobs instead of those disquieting handle things they're forced to use by the gubmint?

200 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:57:50pm

re: #193 Alouette

My favorite...
saute 1 tablespoon nutmeg and 1 tablespoon chillipowder in 1 tablespoon butter or oil for two minutes.
add 1 chopped onion and saute for 5 minutes
add 3-4 cubed sweet potatoes and enough chicken stock (or water) to barely cover the potatoes.
put on the lid and simmer over med low heat until the sweet potatoes become soft (about 45 minutes)
Turn off the heat and mash them by hand or with one of those wand blenders.
Salt pepper to taste,
Serve with a garnish of finely chopped shallots.

201 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:58:04pm

re: #196 brookly red

I love em, but keep em away from my pizza... ight?

Then we'd better keep you away from Korea.

202 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:58:14pm

re: #193 Alouette

Sweet potatoes actually have a taste of their own.

Yes, they do.
I usually just cut them into slices and steam them until slightly tender. Eat them alone or with just a bit of butter. They don't need much, imo.

203 Four More Tears  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:58:35pm

I just have my sweet potatoes with butter. I feel so boring now.

204 Bear  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:58:41pm

Perhaps one of you or Charles may be able to give me some ideas about copying my 16mm home movies on to DVDs. Having several 1000 feet of film and the commercial cost of having the transfer done is expensive, I have been told that copies may be made projecting the movies on a screen and using a camcorder to "film" the projected picture is a way to get the task done. I have a rather good, but not professional quality, camcorder.

In using that setup I noticed a bit of flicker when looking at the camcorder copy.

Suggestions?

205 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 4:59:34pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

Me too. It was such a touching story but they just couldn't resist ruining it at the end.

If you didn't see the elephant video I posted
re: #180 reine.de.tout

My favorite elephant video:

[Video]

It's very short, and just as touching.

206 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:00:14pm

re: #199 Cato the Elder

Since I have no idea what your case is, perhaps you'd care to spell it out for me. I'm thick.

Something to do with how the Euros are all post-postmodern post-Christian angst-ridden unhappy alienated depressives who wish they lived in Utah and had real doorknobs instead of those disquieting handle things they're forced to use by the gubmint?

Oh pooh, Cato.

You can do much better than that.

I know it's only the Net, but who on earth do you think you're talking to?

Crack open some cool vinho verde and let's discuss a bit later...

207 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:00:27pm

re: #202 reine.de.tout

Yes, they do.
I usually just cut them into slices and steam them until slightly tender. Eat them alone or with just a bit of butter. They don't need much, imo.

I'm going to try sweet potato fries.

208 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:00:31pm

re: #204 Bear

Perhaps one of you or Charles may be able to give me some ideas about copying my 16mm home movies on to DVDs. Having several 1000 feet of film and the commercial cost of having the transfer done is expensive, I have been told that copies may be made projecting the movies on a screen and using a camcorder to "film" the projected picture is a way to get the task done. I have a rather good, but not professional quality, camcorder.

In using that setup I noticed a bit of flicker when looking at the camcorder copy.

Suggestions?

I had my mom and dad's done professionally. It was worth the expense.

209 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:00:50pm

re: #207 Alouette

I'm going to try sweet potato fries.

ooh! Yes. There are a couple of restaurants here that serve them, they are delish.

210 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:00:56pm

re: #205 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I've seen that one before. I just have a hard time seeing the animal in distress. Happy ending though.

211 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:01:04pm

re: #201 The Sanity Inspector

Then we'd better keep you away from Korea.

kim chi OK, yams no. pineappel is big no.

212 Four More Tears  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:01:49pm

re: #207 Alouette

Honey mustard goes well with those.

213 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:02:02pm

re: #207 Alouette

I'm going to try sweet potato fries.

yummm with citrus mayo! very NY :)

214 soxfan4life  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:02:08pm

re: #211 brookly red

kim chi OK, yams no. pineappel is big no.

Kim Chi ok but not on a pizza.

215 Bear  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:02:52pm

re: #208 reine.de.tout

I looked at the cost and top grade copies seamed to run around 40 to 50 cents a foot. I probably have nearly a mile of film.

216 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:02:57pm

re: #207 Alouette
I've done these before...
Oven Baked Sweet Potato Fries

I don't like the cinnamon, use nutmeg instead.

217 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:03:31pm

re: #214 soxfan4life

Kim Chi ok but not on a pizza.

it's kinda like onions & hot sauce...

218 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:03:36pm

re: #204 Bear

Concur with Reine... spend the money to have it done professionally. Make it a Christmas present to yourself and your family.

As you only have about 60 more shopping days until Christmas, now is the time to begin!

219 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:05:35pm

re: #206 ryannon

Oh pooh, Cato.

You can do much better than that.

I know it's only the Net, but who on earth do you think you're talking to?

Crack open some cool vinho verde and let's discuss a bit later...

I seem to be talking to someone who thinks this sweeping statement

It's a little government-financed (note the credits at the beginning) parable about the end of an admirable civilization and what used to be pretty wonderful people.

is an accurate description of modern Europe.

Am I wrong?

220 brookly red  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:06:21pm

beer run!

221 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:06:51pm

re: #219 Cato the Elder

is an accurate description of modern Europe.

Am I wrong?

You are wrong.

I live in France.

And that's all I'm talking about.

222 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:09:41pm

re: #221 ryannon

You are wrong.

I live in France.

And that's all I'm talking about.

Well, France, then. I know you live there. Is "[they] used to be pretty wonderful people" your opinion of the that society?

223 Ojoe  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:11:04pm

re: #199 Cato the Elder

and had real doorknobs instead of those disquieting handle things they're forced to use by the gubmint?

ROFLMAO

224 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:17:37pm

re: #222 Cato the Elder

Well, France, then. I know you live there. Is "[they] used to be pretty wonderful people" your opinion of the that society?

If we do this statement by statement and point by point, this isn't going to work. What I said is as much affective as it is objective. I presume that you're going to demonstrate that it's (politely speaking) merely subjective. The bottom line is, I don't have a dog in this fight. I basically don't give a damn about convincing you about something that you apparently find inimical.

That said, it's my opinion of both the French and of their their society. It wasn't always like this. I experienced a very different place when I first arrived.

Luckily for me, it was after the Collaboration.

But there I go being snarky again...

225 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:18:53pm

re: #124 ryannon

Sinister would be a better word, and I know where of I speak. Look carefully at those grey images and the world they portray. It's a little government-financed (note the credits at the beginning) parable about the end of an admirable civilization and what used to be pretty wonderful people. It's all summed up near the end, at around 11:22. Amelie aside, this is pretty much representative of French creativity these days. A vision of a sort of post-Soviet existential hell in various shades of grey. Tourists and visitors generally don't see it: they're moving targets. Anyone who has lived here for any length of time will know exactly what I'm talking about.

I don't trust any politically motivated blog poster to tell me what is representative of the art of any nation. Especially when I know for a fact that what they're claiming is flat ass wrong. Cheers!

226 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:19:57pm

re: #225 WindUpBird

As the French say, Bite me, amigo.

(Gallic shrug)

227 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:21:15pm

re: #224 ryannon

That said, it's my opinion of both the French and of their their society. It wasn't always like this. I experienced a very different place when I first arrived.

Perhaps you're the one who changed. It happens.

And since your dog is not in the fight, I withdraw mine.

228 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:22:01pm

It's a quiet thread, so I'd like to try some Newbie questions.

Are there any intellectual property issues in linking Youtube, etc here?
(Don't want Charles in stir w/ Stormfront alumni.)

There seems to be a way to link without tripping the profile link counter.
I've done it once, not counting Youtubes. What is the right way?

229 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:23:48pm

re: #228 Decatur Deb

It's a quiet thread, so I'd like to try some Newbie questions.

Are there any intellectual property issues in linking Youtube, etc here?
(Don't want Charles in stir w/ Stormfront alumni.)

There seems to be a way to link without tripping the profile link counter.
I've done it once, not counting Youtubes. What is the right way?

Copy the YouTube URL and paste it in your comment on a separate line. You're done.

Don't worry about the rest. No one cares.

230 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:24:48pm

re: #227 Cato the Elder

Perhaps you're the one who changed. It happens.

And since your dog is not in the fight, I withdraw mine.


Of course I've changed.

Everything changes, all the time.

The trick is to define the fine line between oneself and what's not.

As for our respective dogs, I'd rather not spar with you on this, Cato. Save yourself for the battles that count.

231 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:26:13pm

re: #224 ryannon


That said, it's my opinion of both the French and of their their society. It wasn't always like this. I experienced a very different place when I first arrived.
But there I go being snarky again...

Anyone can have an opinion. And your opinion could be grounded in fact and observation, or it can be grounded in hostility, prejudice, and misconceptions. Just like all those people in a previous thread who agreed with Michelle Malkin's pointless blather about the Obamas' choice in art, even when they couldn't tell a Manet from a Monet.

232 freetoken  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:26:31pm

re: #228 Decatur Deb

To expand a bit...

Since LGF isn't hosting the actual video data, there is no problem. Same with anything else... such as with mp3s:

233 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:27:23pm

re: #228 Decatur Deb

Youtube links are fine. If there's copyright issues then Youtube needs to take care of it.

234 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:27:44pm

re: #229 Cato the Elder

Copy the YouTube URL and paste it in your comment on a separate line. You're done.

Don't worry about the rest. No one cares.

And note that that's the URL, not the embed code.

235 Cato the Elder  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:28:24pm

re: #230 ryannon

Of course I've changed.

Everything changes, all the time.

The trick is to define the fine line between oneself and what's not.

As for our respective dogs, I'd rather not spar with you on this, Cato. Save yourself for the battles that count.

It counts to me when someone writes off an entire nation with "[they] used to be pretty wonderful people".

Apply that to Americans and see how it feels.

236 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:28:38pm

re: #231 WindUpBird

Anyone can have an opinion. And your opinion could be grounded in fact and observation, or it can be grounded in hostility, prejudice, and misconceptions. Just like all those people in a previous thread who agreed with Michelle Malkin's pointless blather about the Obamas' choice in art, even when they couldn't tell a Manet from a Monet.

Umm...right.

Except you forgot the reference to the French collaboration with the Nazis when you cited me.

237 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:29:22pm

re: #226 ryannon

As the French say, Bite me, amigo.

(Gallic shrug)

Or you could, you know, counter with a reason why I should listen to you. Instead of just smearing a culture and claiming that you're an expert because you live there.

238 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:30:26pm

re: #236 ryannon

Umm...right.

Except you forgot the reference to the French collaboration with the Nazis when you cited me.

What does that have to do with anything?

239 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:30:47pm

re: #235 Cato the Elder

It counts to me when someone writes off an entire nation with "[they] used to be pretty wonderful people".

Apply that to Americans and see how it feels.

A long time ago I did.

And that's how I ended up here.

Like you say, everything changes...

240 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:31:46pm

re: #239 ryannon

A long time ago I did.

And that's how I ended up here.

Like you say, everything changes...

Maybe...the problem isn't America or France?

241 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:32:15pm

re: #236 ryannon

Umm...right.

Except you forgot the reference to the French collaboration with the Nazis when you cited me.

No True Frenchman

242 Bagua  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:32:31pm

re: #231 WindUpBird

[...] even when they couldn't tell a Manet from a Monet.

or which cost more money.

243 ryannon  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:33:09pm

re: #235 Cato the Elder

I hear there's some music upthread.

Why don't we migrate before all this gets run into the ground?

244 brucee  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:33:25pm

This clip is an earlier work from Jeremy Clapin, not as deep as this one, but still impressive:

245 Bagua  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:46:27pm

re: #244 brucee

The Bluebird of happiness.

246 Silvergirl  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:53:09pm

re: #127 PhillyPretzel

It was how I was taught. I know the word is influenza.

Since I ran out of "gas" I was thinking I'd ride my "bike" to the "gym" and meet my friend for "lunch" afterward. When I "phoned" her, I was sorry to hear she had the "flu."

We use a lot of clipped words. I wouldn't want to put quotes around all of them.

247 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 5:58:08pm

Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.
--Noah Webster

248 SeaMonkey  Sun, Oct 25, 2009 9:25:04pm

Excellent movie.

249 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 26, 2009 2:26:58am

My own political take on the film:

There is always a difference between where we really are and where we think we should be. We often look for outside causes for this phenomenon.

Tight now there are about 28 percentage points between where the GOP is in the polls and where it thinks it should be. Obviouly some sort of alien intervention: foreign-born leaders, foreign terrorists, a foreign ideology.

Summary: we must use our Second Amendment Rights to Take Back Our Contry!!!


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