Why I Left the Right, Exhibits B and C

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For the first of today’s facepalm-inducing audio clips, we have Sean Hannity going Birther, claiming that wacko wingnut site World Net Daily is just doing “due diligence” by obsessing over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, and saying “Given his father’s birthplace, what’s wrong with asking if Obama has a legitimate birth certificate?”

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But wait! Still more facepalm goodness awaits!

Also today, Rush Limbaugh indulged himself in some of that good ol’ patented Limbaugh race-baiting, saying “The black frame of mind is terrible,” and “Tiger Woods’ choice of females is not helping ‘em out with their attitudes there either.”

Classy!

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1 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 3:55:39pm
2 Charles Johnson  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 3:58:55pm

When I want to know about the "black frame of mind," the first person I think of asking is Rush Limbaugh.

How long before someone tosses out the "he was only joking" excuse?

3 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 3:59:28pm

Take a look at the front page of WND today. Swine flu conspiracies and they're claiming the bogus foiled terrorist attack last week is being covered up.

4 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 3:59:34pm

Charles, unless I heard the clip wrong, his "the black frame of mind is terrible" comment was refering to a story he was going to share. The Tiger Woods comment was just plain uncalled for. Not trying to defend Rush by any means here so please don't take it as such.

5 Bloodnok  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:00:11pm

re: #2 Charles

When I want to know about the "black frame of mind," the first person I think of asking is Rush Limbaugh.

How long before someone tosses out the "he was only joking" excuse?

He's just a clown, you know. A court jester.

/

6 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:01:06pm

re: #2 Charles

When I want to know about the "black frame of mind," the first person I think of asking is Rush Limbaugh.

How long before someone tosses out the "he was only joking" excuse?

You called that close...

7 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:01:18pm

re: #4 Jetpilot1101

Rush has no clue what black people are thinking and it's insulting for him to speak on behalf of black Americans. I'm sure if you looked at the polls black people like Obama just fine.

8 tradewind  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:01:49pm

I agree that mentioning the race of Tiger's babes is not 'classy', but Limbaugh is echoing what has been already said by pundits of color on MSNBC and MSM programming such as The View. It's hardly original to him.

9 darthstar  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:01:54pm

Sean Hannity is just trying to boost his ratings, and figures he can ride Sarah's coattails for a few weeks. That, or he's truly a stupid human being.

Limbaugh is always looking for the next thing that will get him a lot of attention--being a bigot seems to pay pretty well, so he's sticking with that for now.

Honestly, I can't believe that any of these mouthpieces--Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, Coulter, etc.-- believe half of the crap they spew...they simply spew it because it pays the rent. If there wasn't any money in being a racist asshole, they'd all either be moderates, or in Hannity's case, baggers at Wal-Mart.

10 Neutral President  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:02:33pm

re: #5 Bloodnok

He's just a clown, you know. A court jester.

/

I thought that was the standard Beck excuse and "He's an entertainer" was the standard Rush excuse.

11 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:02:42pm

How do either of these points help conservatism (that's Goldwater!)? Seriously- this does nothing to promote limited government and individual liberty. It's stupid, and hateful, and the damage these men are doing to a movement they claim to care about is awful.

12 cliffster  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:03:27pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

$$$

13 freetoken  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:03:31pm

The most effective tool that Limbaugh uses is not his exact choice of stories to misrepresent. It is his continual us vs. them rhetorical framework, which includes everything from language to personalities selected to highlight.

This is strong, unspoken reinforcement for the racist/xenophobic crowd, and it is why they consider Limbaugh their ally.

14 Charles Johnson  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:03:43pm

Just got an "I'll pray for you" email, which is always fun.

15 Bloodnok  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:03:58pm

re: #10 ArchangelMichael

I thought that was the standard Beck excuse and "He's an entertainer" was the standard Rush excuse.

I get my assholes mixed up all too often.

Um, let me rephrase that...

16 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:04:16pm

re: #9 darthstar

Sean Hannity is just trying to boost his ratings, and figures he can ride Sarah's coattails for a few weeks. That, or he's truly a stupid human being.

Limbaugh is always looking for the next thing that will get him a lot of attention--being a bigot seems to pay pretty well, so he's sticking with that for now.

Honestly, I can't believe that any of these mouthpieces--Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, Coulter, etc.-- believe half of the crap they spew...they simply spew it because it pays the rent. If there wasn't any money in being a racist asshole, they'd all either be moderates, or in Hannity's case, baggers at Wal-Mart.

Of course they believe it... at least enough to make a conscience decision to say things like this... rent of no rent.

17 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:04:21pm

re: #12 cliffster

$$$

What does the billboard say?
Come and play, come and play!
Forget about the movement.

18 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:04:29pm

re: #7 Killgore Trout

Rush has no clue what black people are thinking and it's insulting for him to speak on behalf of black Americans. I'm sure if you looked at the polls black people like Obama just fine.

KT, I'm not trying to defend Rush and I think his race baiting is terrible and has severly damaged any cedibility he had. I'm not saying he doesn't think it, I'm just trying to make sure I heard the clip correctly. I think everyone here knows that I don't approve of Rush or his antics. You won't find me trying to defend him but I also don't want to misrepresent him and give him fodder to defend his repulsive actions.

19 Four More Tears  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:04:53pm

re: #17 Sharmuta

There aren't enough updings for Rage.

20 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:05:17pm

Could Rush Limbaugh be any more of a sheet-wearer? Millions of listeners turning in to hear this guy dog-whistling to the Klan.

21 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:05:18pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

How do either of these points help conservatism (that's Goldwater!)? Seriously- this does nothing to promote limited government and individual liberty. It's stupid, and hateful, and the damage these men are doing to a movement they claim to care about is awful.

They are helping themselves, that's all.

22 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:05:50pm

re: #2 Charles

When I want to know about the "black frame of mind," the first person I think of asking is Rush Limbaugh.

How long before someone tosses out the "he was only joking" excuse?

I don't know about anyone else here, but I thought jokes involve some actual humor. If Limbaugh were joking/being sarcastic (which he clearly isn't), he's doing a really crappy job of it as people take it at face value. Someone needs to tell his apologists sarcasm is supposed to be at least slightly obvious.

23 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:07:33pm

OT - it's a little after 5:00 mountain time and it is already -8 degrees (f) outside. I think we are shooting for some sort of record tonight.

24 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:08:44pm

They both sound like sober drunk men.

Rush Limbaugh has to be the worst however. He's lucky only white men listen to him.

25 tradewind  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:08:49pm

re: #20 WindUpBird
This is from Eugene Robinson, Washington Post. Can't link it without effort to un-list my subscriber ID, but easily available. Do you consider Mr Robinson, who is African American, a race baiter?///

But the world is full of beautiful women of all colors, shapes and sizes -- some with short hair or almond eyes, some with broad noses, some with yellow or brown skin. Woods appears to have bought into an "official" standard of beauty that is so conventional as to be almost oppressive.
26 Charles Johnson  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:09:34pm

re: #25 tradewind

Wow. Talk about missing the point.

27 tradewind  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:09:57pm

re: #18 Jetpilot1101
Rush is so late to this nontroversy as to be laughable. He'd have to stand in line to get credit for this idea.

28 Neutral President  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:10:19pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

How do either of these points help conservatism (that's Goldwater!)? Seriously- this does nothing to promote limited government and individual liberty. It's stupid, and hateful, and the damage these men are doing to a movement they claim to care about is awful.

If Goldwater were alive today and could see all this bullshit, the saying would be "In your heart you know he's pissed!"

29 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:11:08pm

re: #25 tradewind

This is from Eugene Robinson, Washington Post. Can't link it without effort to un-list my subscriber ID, but easily available. Do you consider Mr Robinson, who is African American, a race baiter?///

Dissing his wife because she's a slim blonde? Actually, yeah! That is race baiting.

If you're guessing I'm one of these team-player liberals who apologizes for racebaiting when it comes from black people (hello, Duke rape case), you just lost the Rice a Roni and the home game. :-)

30 Bloodnok  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:11:15pm

re: #28 ArchangelMichael

If Goldwater were alive today and could see all this bullshit, the saying would be "In your heart you know he's pissed!"

LMAO

31 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:13:06pm

re: #25 tradewind

This is from Eugene Robinson, Washington Post. Can't link it without effort to un-list my subscriber ID, but easily available. Do you consider Mr Robinson, who is African American, a race baiter?///

The difference is, Eugene Robinson is not doing what Limbaugh does. Limbaugh is pulling out the Stormfront-lite rhetoric, day after day, week after week, year after year. He influences millions of people. And the deeply stupid and gullible among them swallow his rhetoric like eager pigs.

32 Kruk  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:13:41pm

"Black state of mind". Oh my fracking god.

33 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:14:03pm

Sean Hannity got on my nerves a few years ago, and hasn't been in my good graces since. His style leaves much to be desired, as he often looks like a partisan hack who is incapable of forming a line of reasoning without consulting a list of talking points. The complete lack of logic in the first video was mind numbing. Just pitiful.

34 jaunte  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:14:36pm

What does "Tiger Woods' choice of females is not really helping them out either" even mean? It's gibberish.

35 djughurknot  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:14:53pm

Gee whilikers! My ma was from a furr'n country, and I was born in a town packed to the gills with liberals and Green Party voters. Obviously I am not an Amurr'can, neither!

I still reel at the notion that this stuff is not only mainstream, but considered a part of the "spectrum of legitimate opinion." Then again, hate sells. Oh, does it ever sell.

Also, where the hell does Rushbo get the credibility to criticize peoples' dating habits?? ESPECIALLY black people, with whom he shares such an affinity? Gotta remember to text him for advice the next time I'm out hitting on the wimmens.

BAH.

36 Neutral President  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:16:50pm

re: #33 Sharmuta

Hannity has been dead to me since his shenanigans over Terri Schiavo, namely his bogus "Nobel Prize Nominee Doctor" he kept putting on his show who was a quack.

37 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:17:26pm

A guy with a name like Sean Hannity calls attention to where some other guy's father may have come from?

These Paddies kill me sometimes.

38 Surabaya Stew  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:17:31pm

re: #9 darthstar

Sean Hannity is just trying to boost his ratings, and figures he can ride Sarah's coattails for a few weeks. That, or he's truly a stupid human being.

Limbaugh is always looking for the next thing that will get him a lot of attention--being a bigot seems to pay pretty well, so he's sticking with that for now.

Honestly, I can't believe that any of these mouthpieces--Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, Coulter, etc.-- believe half of the crap they spew...they simply spew it because it pays the rent. If there wasn't any money in being a racist asshole, they'd all either be moderates, or in Hannity's case, baggers at Wal-Mart.

Agreed with Hannity being a stupid human being; he's the fool who "borrowed" footage from Glenn Beck's 9/12 rally and tried to pass it along as part of his own sponsored rally. Disagree with Hannity being a bagger at Wal-Mart if being racist didn't pay; he's be a stock boy in the warehouse so as not to offend customers with his snideness.

39 cliffster  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:17:54pm

re: #34 jaunte

What does "Tiger Woods' choice of females is not really helping them out either" even mean? It's gibberish.

Not really. There's been grumblings about his female preferences.

40 Bloodnok  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:18:05pm

That sound you hear is the NFL and St. Louis Rams fans breathing yet another collective sigh of relief.

41 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:18:53pm

re: #34 jaunte

What does "Tiger Woods' choice of females is not really helping them out either" even mean? It's gibberish.

My guess would be he's saying "see look, you're black idol went off and got white girlfriends."

I don't even know why I am trying to figure that out. Who are his advertisers and why is the asshole still on the air?

42 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:19:49pm

Funny Tweet I just came across:

Rush Limbaugh could hve a lobotomy and still not get any more dumb. I'd love to know what the black frame of mind is!
43 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:19:54pm

re: #34 jaunte

Sounds like jealousy to me.

44 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:19:58pm

re: #39 cliffster

Not really. There's been grumblings about his female preferences.

And Rush is right there to exploit it for his dumb racist audience, stoking their fears and prejudices of black people and propping up their self-esteem because they'll always have the frightening Others with the dark skin to mock.

45 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:20:13pm

re: #41 Gus 802

My guess would be he's saying "see look, you're black idol went off and got white girlfriends."

I don't even know why I am trying to figure that out. Who are his advertisers and why is the asshole still on the air?

he has a rugged square jaw...and good hair
eye candy

46 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:20:32pm

re: #25 tradewind

This is from Eugene Robinson, Washington Post. Can't link it without effort to un-list my subscriber ID, but easily available. Do you consider Mr Robinson, who is African American, a race baiter?///

Rush linked to that too, I think in an attempt to mount a preemptive defense of himself. It contains no defense.

47 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:20:51pm

Btw, Limbaugh recently got engaged for something like the 4th time (yeah, he's a real family values guy) to Kathryn Rogers. Who is - wait for it - white, young and blonde! Just like Tiger's 'choice of females'. Limbaugh's not only race-baiting, he is as usual completely full of crap.

48 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:20:54pm

re: #37 Cato the Elder

A guy with a name like Sean Hannity calls attention to where some other guy's father may have come from?

These Paddies kill me sometimes.

OT - are you going to follow through and contact me, or did you change you mind?

49 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:21:08pm

re: #14 Charles

Just got an "I'll pray for you" email, which is always fun.

It's like chicken soup...it couldn't hoit.

50 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:21:28pm

re: #34 jaunte

What does "Tiger Woods' choice of females is not really helping them out either" even mean? It's gibberish.

Stacy McCain has found his Rhett.

51 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:21:37pm

re: #48 Walter L. Newton

OT - are you going to follow through and contact me, or did you change you mind?

You'll be hearing from me!

52 cliffster  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:21:44pm

re: #44 WindUpBird

And Rush is right there to exploit it for his dumb racist audience, stoking their fears and prejudices of black people and propping up their self-esteem because they'll always have the frightening Others with the dark skin to mock.

Rush has a big audience. Must take a lot of energy, hating all those millions of people as much as you do.

53 pharmmajor  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:22:14pm

Charles, since the left and the right are driving you nuts, have you considered joining the Libertarians?

54 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:22:15pm

re: #45 albusteve

he has a rugged square jaw...and good hair
eye candy

Funny. Yeah, over the years he's become kind of like an animatron. He was interviewed not to long ago and he looked and sounded like a robot. The voice of his is like it's steam being released from a pressure cooker.

55 jaunte  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:23:07pm

re: #50 Sharmuta

It's silly to try to magnify a sports star's dating into some kind of general Black American malaise.

56 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:23:30pm

Here comes the cold sunset upon the San Gabriel Mountains of December. It might go all rosy in the next 15 minutes. Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Nature break.

And Pffiibbiittth™ on both major political parties.

57 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:23:59pm

re: #54 Gus 802

Funny. Yeah, over the years he's become kind of like an animatron. He was interviewed not to long ago and he looked and sounded like a robot. The voice of his is like it's steam being released from a pressure cooker.

whirring, hissing, clicking away into the hearts of millions

58 jaunte  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:24:04pm

Traffic time.

59 darthstar  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:24:05pm

re: #33 Sharmuta

Sean Hannity got on my nerves a few years ago, and hasn't been in my good graces since. His style leaves much to be desired, as he often looks like a partisan hack who is incapable of forming a line of reasoning without consulting a list of talking points. The complete lack of logic in the first video was mind numbing. Just pitiful.

Sean Hannity is not a smart person. He needs to be spoon-fed his material, and if caught in deep water (topically speaking) will shout down his guests until he's ready to change the subject to something he does understand, like poo. And while there are plenty of college drop-outs in the world who are smart people, Sean Hannity isn't one of them.

60 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:24:08pm

re: #53 pharmmajor

Charles, since the left and the right are driving you nuts, have you considered joining the Libertarians?

Hahahahahahaha!

Cough, spit.

Hahahahahahaha!

One thing I think Charles and I may have in common - I may presume too much, but I'm just guessing - is that you'll never catch either of us as a member of any political party.

61 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:24:13pm

re: #53 pharmmajor

Charles, since the left and the right are driving you nuts, have you considered joining the Libertarians?

Ah yes, the party that is and will always be of the future, as Walter (I think?) says.

62 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:24:26pm

re: #52 cliffster

Rush has a big audience. Must take a lot of energy, hating all those millions of people as much as you do.

I don't hate them, I just think they're on average dumb and racist. Even cretins need their own radio heroes!

63 cliffster  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:24:36pm

re: #55 jaunte

It's silly to try to magnify a sports star's dating into some kind of general Black American malaise.

Sure is. For everyone

64 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:24:38pm

re: #60 Cato the Elder

Any major party anyway.

65 Neutral President  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:25:16pm

re: #53 pharmmajor

Charles, since the left and the right are driving you nuts, have you considered joining the Libertarians?

I wont speak for Charles but the "big L" Libertarians are bigger kooks than either the left and the right, even right now. Half of them are carousing with the Republicans via Luap Nor and the Tea Party idiots right now anyway.

66 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:25:36pm

What is it with "Drug" Rush Limbaugh saying "Reverend Thackson"? Is that supposed to be a black accent? Ebonics? He's a fuck of a bad mimic if it is...

67 freetoken  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:25:38pm

re: #53 pharmmajor

Charles, since the left and the right are driving you nuts, have you considered joining the Libertarians?

"Libertarian"? Such as Lew Rockwell and Instapundit?

68 tommysilver  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:25:54pm

Limbaugh is basically calling African Americans racist and to top it off he implies that African American men have a lurid lust for white women. The Robinson guy was basically making a point about society's narrow definition of beauty.

69 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:26:09pm

re: #53 pharmmajor

Charles, since the left and the right are driving you nuts, have you considered joining the Libertarians?

The party of Luap Nor? I think they preceded the Republicans over the cliff.

70 avanti  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:26:51pm

Now Beck has

goldgate.

71 freetoken  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:27:03pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

The party of Luap Nor? I think they preceded the Republicans over the cliff.

Some might even say they pulled the GOP over the cliff.

72 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:27:12pm

re: #60 Cato the Elder

Hahahahahahaha!

Cough, spit.

Hahahahahahaha!

One thing I think Charles and I may have in common - I may presume too much, but I'm just guessing - is that you'll never catch either of us as a member of any political party.

nor myself

73 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:27:18pm

re: #70 avanti

Now Beck has

goldgate.

Another gate?

74 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:27:23pm

re: #68 tommysilver

Limbaugh is basically calling African Americans racist and to top it off he implies that African American men have a lurid lust for white women. The Robinson guy was basically making a point about society's narrow definition of beauty.

I've always been uncomfortable with the idea of going after the loved ones of celebrities to score editorial points. Just makes me feel oogy.

75 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:27:29pm

re: #65 ArchangelMichael

Are you all trying to get me to post the home page of

The Modern Whig Party?

and

The Whig Video?

76 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:27:55pm

re: #55 jaunte

It's silly to try to magnify a sports star's dating into some kind of general Black American malaise.

Kind of a warped perspective on how society functions. It's like thinking life in America would magically improve if we could just get Jennifer Aniston married.

77 avanti  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:28:08pm

re: #73 Gus 802

Another gate?

But it's on Beck this time.

78 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:29:24pm

re: #76 Sharmuta

Kind of a warped perspective on how society functions. It's like thinking life in America would magically improve if we could just get Jennifer Aniston married.

Damned grocery store tabloid rags. :P

79 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:29:29pm

re: #68 tommysilver

Limbaugh is basically calling African Americans racist and to top it off he implies that African American men have a lurid lust for white women. The Robinson guy was basically making a point about society's narrow definition of beauty.

Your post and the name Robinson there just made me think of To Kill A Mockingbird, one of my favorite books. It depresses me no end that the attitudes described in there are still being expressed today, especially by a man with an audience of millions hanging on his every word.

80 Four More Tears  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:29:34pm

re: #70 avanti

Now Beck has

goldgate.

A pox on Woodward AND Bernstein for bringing the suffix -gate into our lexicon!

81 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:29:37pm

re: #70 avanti

Now Beck has

goldgate.

I sorta doubt that's going to become a scandal. The only reason it might cause problems is if Fox cares enough to crack down on him. I don't think they do. He could easily turn his show into an hour long infomercial and I don't think it would bother the management.

82 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:29:43pm

re: #14 Charles

Just got an "I'll pray for you" email, which is always fun.

Please put up a new "We've got mail!" thread.

83 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:29:49pm

re: #52 cliffster

Rush has a big audience. Must take a lot of energy, hating all those millions of people as much as you do.

I don't hate them. I fear their stoopid. It is a great disturbance in the force.

84 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:29:56pm

re: #77 avanti

But it's on Beck this time.

I see. Like I've always noticed. The fruitloops are always selling gold coins, reverse osmosis filters, and nutritional supplements.

85 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:29:57pm

re: #68 tommysilver

Limbaugh is basically calling African Americans racist and to top it off he implies that African American men have a lurid lust for white women. The Robinson guy was basically making a point about society's narrow definition of beauty.

Why would anyone lust for a gorgeous blond long-legged Scandinavian model. It's just beyond me, I tell ya.

86 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:30:46pm

re: #73 Gus 802

Dear God I wish the suffix -gate would just die already.

87 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:30:56pm

re: #52 cliffster

Rush has a big audience. Must take a lot of energy, hating all those millions of people as much as you do.

Soccer has an even bigger audience.

88 irving  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:30:59pm

Sort of, but not entirely, OT:

Behold! Exhibit D!

Sarah Palin has an editorial on "Climategate". Read it and weep for our children.

89 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:31:00pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

I sorta doubt that's going to become a scandal. The only reason it might cause problems is if Fox cares enough to crack down on him. I don't think they do. He could easily turn his show into an hour long infomercial and I don't think it would bother the management.

Hasn't Art Bell been doing the gold-hawking conflict of interest for like 20 years? In between talking about time travelers, remote viewing, chemtrails and Gozer the Gozerian, of course.

90 brookly red  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:31:07pm

re: #73 Gus 802

Another gate?

"gate" is kinda meaningless at this point...

91 djughurknot  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:31:31pm

re: #86 Merryweather

Dear God I wish the suffix -gate would just die already.

I know- we're in such a post-suffix world, I feel.

92 avanti  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:31:36pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

I sorta doubt that's going to become a scandal. The only reason it might cause problems is if Fox cares enough to crack down on him. I don't think they do. He could easily turn his show into an hour long infomercial and I don't think it would bother the management.

The more doom and gloom he pushes, the more gold he sells.

93 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:31:53pm

re: #83 Cato the Elder

I don't hate them. I fear their stoopid. It is a great disturbance in the force.

It's like a symptom. An indicator of the mental health of big chunks of the country. And the needle's going down, down, down...

94 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:32:26pm

re: #78 WindUpBird

Damned grocery store tabloid rags. :P

Celebrity dating is the supporting structure for life in the universe. ///

95 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:33:50pm

At the level that both Tiger Woods and Rush Limbaugh play and pay, any man has to wonder whether his wife is in it for love or, ahem, other considerations.

At Rush's level of physical attractiveness, any man who is not Rush knows the answer.

96 cliffster  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:33:50pm

Aww, rats, I gotta go. Have fun.

97 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:33:58pm

re: #94 Sharmuta

Celebrity dating is the supporting structure for life in the universe. ///

they did bust J Edwards tho...probably a lucky shot

98 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:34:20pm

re: #94 Sharmuta

Celebrity dating is the supporting structure for life in the universe. ///

Closely followed by Jerry Bruckheimer films.

99 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:34:29pm

Desktop quality towercam.

BBL

100 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:34:33pm

re: #94 Sharmuta

Celebrity dating is the supporting structure for life in the universe. ///

I shudder to think of how large the industry for celebrity gossip is. TMZ, paparazzi selling their snapshots, multiple television gossip shows, tell-all books, all these glossy magazines...

101 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:34:46pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

At the level that both Tiger Woods and Rush Limbaugh play and pay, any man has to wonder whether his wife is in it for love or, ahem, other considerations.

At Rush's level of physical attractiveness, any man who is not Rush knows the answer.

You don't think a big fat pancake shaped face could be attractive?

102 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:36:11pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

At the level that both Tiger Woods and Rush Limbaugh play and pay, any man has to wonder whether his wife is in it for love or, ahem, other considerations.

At Rush's level of physical attractiveness, any man who is not Rush knows the answer.

His partners don't say "please rush" for nothing.

103 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:36:19pm

re: #101 Gus 802

You don't think a big fat pancake shaped face could be attractive?

Come on! That's an insult to bread-product-headed citizens everywhere!

104 Four More Tears  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:36:48pm

re: #102 Spare O'Lake

His partners don't say "please rush" for nothing.

In bed. Oh wait, that makes sense...

105 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:37:28pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

Oh you'd be amazed. Rush's fellow wingnuts seem to see something in him that escapes the rest of us. I once heard Monica Crowley say she found him sexually attractive - my breakfast then paid me a return visit. But then that's standard operating procedure for the crazies.

106 darthstar  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:37:29pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

I'm guessing Beck doesn't even have that much gold...some, but not much. He does, however, probably have a lot of stock in that company he plugs on his show, and that's where a conflict of interest would lie, if any.

107 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:37:32pm

re: #103 WindUpBird

Come on! That's an insult to bread-product-headed citizens everywhere!

Hey, is he wearing Talking Points Memo briefs?

I was looking for a vegetable to compare with Rush's head. Stopped at an onion.

108 Surabaya Stew  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:38:23pm

re: #88 irving

Sort of, but not entirely, OT:

Behold! Exhibit D!

Sarah Palin has an editorial on "Climategate". Read it and weep for our children.

It's the kind of thing that makes me not want to have children!

BBL

109 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:38:38pm

re: #101 Gus 802

I think the woman would end up being the pancake after a roll in the hay with Rush.

110 Four More Tears  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:38:41pm

re: #88 irving

Sort of, but not entirely, OT:

Behold! Exhibit D!

Sarah Palin has an editorial on "Climategate". Read it and weep for our children.

So... who wrote that for her?

111 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:38:48pm

re: #105 Merryweather

Oh you'd be amazed. Rush's fellow wingnuts seem to see something in him that escapes the rest of us. I once heard Monica Crowley say she found him sexually attractive - my breakfast then paid me a return visit. But then that's standard operating procedure for the crazies.

one person said that and everybody else is SOP crazy for it?...got it

112 JamesWI  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:38:54pm

re: #86 Merryweather

Dear God I wish the suffix -gate would just die already.

You just started suffix-gate-gate

113 tommysilver  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:39:13pm

re: #85 Spare O'Lake

Why would anyone lust for a gorgeous blond long-legged Scandinavian model. It's just beyond me, I tell ya.

Lust is understandable; lurid isn't.

114 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:39:19pm

My favorite bumper sticker of all time, seen in 2004 or so:

RUSH IS A BAND. SO IS BUSH. SO IS ANTHRAX.

115 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:39:56pm

re: #106 darthstar

I'm guessing Beck doesn't even have that much gold...some, but not much. He does, however, probably have a lot of stock in that company he plugs on his show, and that's where a conflict of interest would lie, if any.

I'm sure he's sensibly invested. His viewers are going to be very surprised when the world economy recovers and they lose money by investing in gold futures.

116 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:40:11pm

re: #107 Gus 802

Hey, is he wearing Talking Points Memo briefs?

I was looking for a vegetable to compare with Rush's head. Stopped at an onion.

Maybe a gourd?

117 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:40:19pm

re: #111 albusteve

To clarify: what I meant is that it's SOP for the crazies to see things that the rest of us (i.e. sane people) can't.

118 Four More Tears  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:41:25pm

re: #114 WindUpBird

My favorite bumper sticker of all time, seen in 2004 or so:

RUSH IS A BAND. SO IS BUSH. SO IS ANTHRAX.

Damn, I haven't listened to Anthrax in ages.

Youtube Video
119 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:43:22pm

re: #100 WindUpBird

I shudder to think of how large the industry for celebrity gossip is. TMZ, paparazzi selling their snapshots, multiple television gossip shows, tell-all books, all these glossy magazines...

Do NOT get me started on these people. Vultures, imo. And I've been disgusted with them since Cobain died.

But to use trashy tabloid headlines as a basis for national political analysis is laughable. Any "malaise" going on has more to do with the economy and war than Tiger Woods or Brangelina.

The only purpose in bringing Tiger into it was to blow the dog whistle of Stacy McCain's- being repulsed by mixed relationships.

120 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:43:37pm

re: #117 Merryweather

To clarify: what I meant is that it's SOP for the crazies to see things that the rest of us (i.e. sane people) can't.

especially true with regard to sex, religion and of course politics

121 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:43:38pm

re: #117 Merryweather

To clarify: what I meant is that it's SOP for the crazies to see things that the rest of us (i.e. sane people) can't.

And maybe there is some one who finds him attractive. So what?

122 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:44:10pm

re: #114 WindUpBird


My favorite bumper sticker of all time, seen in 2004 or so:

RUSH IS A BAND. SO IS BUSH. SO IS ANTHRAX.

My personal favorite is:

NOVEMBER 2 2004 IS NATIONAL ABSTINENCE DAY: NO DICK OR BUSH.

123 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:44:23pm

re: #56 Ojoe

Here comes the cold sunset upon the San Gabriel Mountains of December. It might go all rosy in the next 15 minutes. Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Nature break.

And Pffiibbiittth™ on both major political parties.

Nice!

124 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:44:46pm

Image: large_rush-limbaugh-jan13-09.jpg

125 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:45:01pm

re: #56 Ojoe

Here comes the cold sunset upon the San Gabriel Mountains of December. It might go all rosy in the next 15 minutes. Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Nature break.

And Pffiibbiittth™ on both major political parties.

Gorgeous!

126 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:45:34pm

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

And maybe there is some one who finds him attractive. So what?

stick him in buckskins and a coonskin cap and he's handsome in a John Wayne sorta way

127 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:46:27pm

re: #126 albusteve

stick him in buckskins and a coonskin cap and he's handsome in a John Wayne sorta way

Oh, sweet Jesus, I did not want that image in my head.

128 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:46:57pm

re: #126 albusteve

stick him in buckskins and a coonskin cap and he's handsome in a John Wayne sorta way

What's the temp at your place? It's -8 (f) here right now.

129 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:47:15pm

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

And maybe there is some one who finds him attractive. So what?

And that person just happens to be a young, blonde hottie with his ideal titty size?

Follow the money.

130 Four More Tears  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:47:26pm

re: #126 albusteve

It's not your fault, but when I hear "coonskin" mentioned in regards to Rush I think of something really really bad. I need to lie down or something...

131 KingKenrod  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:47:59pm

re: #56 Ojoe

Here comes the cold sunset upon the San Gabriel Mountains of December. It might go all rosy in the next 15 minutes. Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Nature break.

And Pffiibbiittth™ on both major political parties.

Very nice. Everyone should check this out before it's gone forever...

132 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:48:35pm

re: #128 Walter L. Newton

What's the temp at your place? It's -8 (f) here right now.

a blustery 37...51% humidity, and some snow on the Sandias, typical
it was colder than a well diggers ass down here last week

133 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:49:19pm

re: #128 Walter L. Newton

What's the temp at your place? It's -8 (f) here right now.

49º here in North L.A.

I got shorts and flip flops on.

134 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:50:11pm

re: #133 Racer X

49º here in North L.A.

I got shorts and flip flops on.

If I had shorts on, it would be flip-flopping with this temperature.

135 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:50:14pm

71º in Houston

136 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:50:34pm

1.0°F

137 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:51:27pm

re: #134 Walter L. Newton

If I had shorts on, it would be flip-flopping with this temperature.

-8 sounds downright scary. My freezer never gets that cold.

138 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:51:39pm

re: #134 Walter L. Newton

If I had shorts on, it would be flip-flopping with this temperature.

I've not seen below zero temps in probably eight or nine years...just a vague bad memory now...I consider 50 cold now

139 tommysilver  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:51:48pm

re: #79 Merryweather

Your post and the name Robinson there just made me think of To Kill A Mockingbird, one of my favorite books. It depresses me no end that the attitudes described in there are still being expressed today, especially by a man with an audience of millions hanging on his every word.

At least the racists back then admitted they were racists. Today the racists are in such denial they label the objects of their scorn racist! It would be interesting to see how this "racist denial" compares to the denial system used by people attempting to cope with chemical dependence: [Link: www.azureacres.com...] . I really do think the comparison would make for an interesting psychological study.

140 recusancy  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:52:17pm

Ha!

"Last week, Fox and Friends showed a Rasmussen poll graphic revealing that a whopping 120 percent of the American public believes scientists may be falsifying research to support their own theories on global warming"

141 reine.de.tout  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:52:39pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

Take a look at the front page of WND today. Swine flu conspiracies and they're claiming the bogus foiled terrorist attack last week is being covered up.

I just went and looked at that swine flu conspiracy story - well, the main one (there are a couple of swine flu stories).
It's completely idiotic. If there was something nefarious going on, don't you think they would have seen to it there was no vaccine shortage?

142 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:53:26pm

re: #140 recusancy

Ha!

"Last week, Fox and Friends showed a Rasmussen poll graphic revealing that a whopping 120 percent of the American public believes scientists may be falsifying research to support their own theories on global warming"

That must be the same 120 percent who think Sarah Palin has a brain.

143 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:53:33pm

LEAVE LIMBAUGH ALONE!

Youtube Video
144 recusancy  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:54:23pm

re: #142 Cato the Elder

That must be the same 120 percent who think Sarah Palin has a brain.

Haha... Read the bottom of that linked article..

145 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:54:25pm

re: #140 recusancy

Is the extra 20% illegal aliens?

146 Charles Johnson  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:54:33pm

re: #88 irving

Sort of, but not entirely, OT:

Behold! Exhibit D!

Sarah Palin has an editorial on "Climategate". Read it and weep for our children.

Oh my goodness.

The stupid, it burns!

Image: thestupiditburns.jpg

147 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:56:29pm

re: #142 Cato the Elder

The impossible percentage aside, it's a Rasmussen poll, and they skew heavily to the right. So chances are most of them are right wingers.

148 Charles Johnson  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:56:48pm

Palin recycles every single false claim about the CRU emails. How completely nauseating.

Man, did this country ever dodge a bullet when she wasn't elected. I hereby fall on my knees and beg forgiveness for voting for her. I will rub ashes in my hair, and wear sackcloth for the rest of my days.

149 Jaerik  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:56:53pm

re: #9 darthstar

Honestly, I can't believe that any of these mouthpieces--Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, Coulter, etc.-- believe half of the crap they spew...they simply spew it because it pays the rent. If there wasn't any money in being a racist asshole, they'd all either be moderates, or in Hannity's case, baggers at Wal-Mart.

I pretty much agree. They exhibit such a shocking lack of internal consistency that they would have to be truly braindead not to realize it, and Rush et. al. aren't dumb. (I think Hannity is legitimately a little slow, but most of these guys are quite shrewd.)

I assume that by now, they've long since come to the personal inflection point where they had to ask themselves: "Do I stick with saying stuff that I genuinely believe, or do I just go for the ratings." They chose the latter, and doubled down.

That's fine and all? I mean... if they're popular and pull in the money on the airwaves, I'm all for the capitalist part of it. More power to them. It the choice is between getting 100% of 1/4 of the population or 10% of the general population, then from a business perspective you can't really blame them.

It does make one wonder, however, where that leaves the Right. If their "leaders" (as confirmed by Republican voter perception polls) have so obviously checked out and gone for sheer ratings / infotainment value, where does that leave conservatism as a legitimate political ideology?

150 Four More Tears  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:57:15pm

re: #148 Charles

Palin recycles every single false claim about the CRU emails. How completely nauseating.

Man, did this country ever dodge a bullet when she wasn't elected. I hereby fall on my knees and beg forgiveness for voting for her. I will rub ashes in my hair, and wear sackcloth for the rest of my days.

Pics or it didn't happen.

151 brookly red  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:57:52pm

re: #147 Merryweather

The impossible percentage aside, it's a Rasmussen poll, and they skew heavily to the right. So chances are most of them are right wingers.

really, huh? what poll do you recommend? (I don't like any of them)

152 verybadcat  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:58:00pm

Wacky? Sure.

. . . But is it as dangerous as a Federal takeover of health care?

153 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:58:47pm

re: #148 Charles

Palin recycles every single false claim about the CRU emails. How completely nauseating.

Man, did this country ever dodge a bullet when she wasn't elected. I hereby fall on my knees and beg forgiveness for voting for her. I will rub ashes in my hair, and wear sackcloth for the rest of my days.

Now, now.

Ashes are not carbon-neutral.

Just the sackcloth will do, but be sure it's made from hemp.

154 Decatur Deb  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:59:49pm

re: #32 Kruk

"Black state of mind". Oh my fracking god.

Here's a black state of mind:

[Link: popup.lala.com...]

155 Four More Tears  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:00:16pm

re: #153 Cato the Elder

Well, he didn't say he would make the ashes himself. Just need to find a couple of smokers and he's set.

156 recusancy  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:00:23pm

re: #151 brookly red

really, huh? what poll do you recommend? (I don't like any of them)

You don't like any polls?? hu?

157 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:00:47pm

Got a comment on my blog from some asswipe named "yehoshua rosin" who has a history of posting on moonbat and pro-Hamas blogs.

golan hights are, according to international law a syrian territory occupied by israel as such all israeli settlements are deemed ilegal. boycoting their products is a legal action according to international law.

Buy Golan Heights wine from the Zionist Mall!

158 Obdicut  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:00:52pm

re: #148 Charles

I'd say that sticking up for scientists in the way you have been is redemption enough.

On the other hand, sackcloth and ashes could be the hot new winter look.

I say go for it.

159 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:01:39pm

re: #154 Decatur Deb

Here's a black state of mind:

[Link: popup.lala.com...]

But she says she's blue.

160 Jaerik  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:01:41pm

re: #148 Charles

Palin recycles every single false claim about the CRU emails. How completely nauseating.

Man, did this country ever dodge a bullet when she wasn't elected. I hereby fall on my knees and beg forgiveness for voting for her. I will rub ashes in my hair, and wear sackcloth for the rest of my days.

Hey, I voted for Bush. Maybe we can form some kind of atonement support group.

161 brookly red  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:02:24pm

re: #156 recusancy

You don't like any polls?? hu?

you ask 1,000 people what 300 million think & well I am skeptical...

162 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:02:41pm

re: #151 brookly red

Anyone but Rasmussen. You see, their practice is to poll likely voters. And they believe Republicans are more likely to vote than Democrats, so they end up polling more Republicans than Democrats, and as a result their polls always end up being outliers.

163 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:02:51pm

re: #160 Jaerik

holy moly, I voted for Nixon. We all have our crosses.

164 recusancy  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:04:26pm

re: #162 Merryweather

Anyone but Rasmussen. You see, their practice is to poll likely voters. And they believe Republicans are more likely to vote than Democrats, so they end up polling more Republicans than Democrats, and as a result their polls always end up being outliers.

They have decent polling during election times. They just 'drudgify' their findings so they get picked up by Fox and Drudge during the off election months.

165 brookly red  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:05:12pm

re: #162 Merryweather

Anyone but Rasmussen. You see, their practice is to poll likely voters. And they believe Republicans are more likely to vote than Democrats, so they end up polling more Republicans than Democrats, and as a result their polls always end up being outliers.

OK that makes sense, but don't they ask the person first are you likley to vote? or what.

166 Jaerik  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:05:16pm

re: #151 brookly red

really, huh? what poll do you recommend? (I don't like any of them)

No one really knows why Rasmussen skews right. But just read down this particular list of Obama job approval figures:

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

You'll notice every "red" (meaning net negative) entry is Rasmussen. Pretty consistently. I'm not as willing to jump on the "bias" bandwagon as most people, but there's clearly something going on there.

They do use a lot of older polling practices. Like, I know they only do land lines, and they tend to only call in the middle of the day. Maybe they hit too many older voters that way?

167 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:05:44pm

I voted for Carter.

I was a young snob at the time, and thought the ballot said Cartier.

Sorry, Israel.

168 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:06:19pm

re: #167 Cato the Elder

I voted for Carter.

I was a young snob at the time, and thought the ballot said Cartier.

Sorry, Israel.

Thwack!

169 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:06:39pm

I feel so dumb. I voted for [insert politician's name here].

They will always let you down. It has always been a "hold your nose and pick the smartest fool" endeavor.

170 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:07:00pm

re: #163 allegro

Nixon actually did a lot of good stuff before Watergate destroyed his presidency, so I think you have less of a cross to bear than those who voted for Bush in '04. Bush '00 voters get a pass because they couldn't have known how bad he was going to be.

171 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:07:52pm

re: #170 Merryweather

I'm not sorry I voted for Bush twice.

172 Charles Johnson  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:08:02pm

Palin actually says that the CRU scientists represent the "radical environmental movement!"

Argh. This is a one-woman stupid factory. She doesn't know the difference between "weather" and "climate" and uses the terms interchangeably.

173 brookly red  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:08:40pm

re: #166 Jaerik

No one really knows why Rasmussen skews right. But just read down this particular list of Obama job approval figures:

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

You'll notice every "red" (meaning net negative) entry is Rasmussen. Pretty consistently. I'm not as willing to jump on the "bias" bandwagon as most people, but there's clearly something going on there.

They do use a lot of older polling practices. Like, I know they only do land lines, and they tend to only call in the middle of the day. Maybe they hit too many older voters that way?

No offense to anyone but I don't beleive in polls, you can always find one to fit your liking.

174 KingKenrod  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:09:16pm

re: #162 Merryweather

Anyone but Rasmussen. You see, their practice is to poll likely voters. And they believe Republicans are more likely to vote than Democrats, so they end up polling more Republicans than Democrats, and as a result their polls always end up being outliers.

Which makes them valuable for predicting actual elections or issues on the ballot; less so for judging the actual levels of support or opposition for issues in the general public. Politicians must find their polls very valuable.

Really, the important thing about polls are not the levels but how they change over time.

175 tommysilver  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:09:51pm

re: #153 Cato the Elder

Actually volcanic ash makes a killer environmentally-friendly shampoo.

[Link: homeshoppingqueen.blogspot.com...]

And Charles would look quite appropriately dressed if not a bit cheesy in sackcloth:

[Link: sackcloth.spreadshirt.com...]

In other words, ash and sackcloth aren't the penitence they used to be. Charles, you're letting yourself off way too easy!

176 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:09:55pm

re: #171 Sharmuta

I'm not sorry I voted for Bush twice.

I'm sorry I voted for him once. He did a good job lying and scaring me into supporting the war on Iraq.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

177 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:10:25pm

re: #148 Charles

Man, did this country ever dodge a bullet when she wasn't elected. I hereby fall on my knees and beg forgiveness for voting for her. I will rub ashes in my hair, and wear sackcloth for the rest of my days.

I think that fate should be forced on John McCain for picking her. With some snakes thrown in somewhere.

178 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:10:42pm

re: #170 Merryweather

Bush '00 voters get a pass because they couldn't have known how bad he was going to be.

I'm in Texas. I had a clue.

179 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:11:00pm

re: #172 Charles

Palin actually says that the CRU scientists represent the "radical environmental movement!"

Argh. This is a one-woman stupid factory. She doesn't know the difference between "weather" and "climate" and uses the terms interchangeably.

She must not get out much. Not only thought one needn't get out much to know what radical environmentalists are really like. She's clueless.

180 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:11:13pm

re: #171 Sharmuta

Well, we Dems did put up an awful, awful alternative in Kerry, so I don't blame you.

181 badger1970  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:11:29pm

Bloody Hell! These assholes make millions of dollars being complete and utter ignoramuses and claim to be conservative. If they keep this up, they'll make people forget that the Republicans freed the slaves and the Dixiecrats were against the civil rights movement.

Obama is American and Tiger Woods is just another dumb athlete who has the world entire but pissed it all away. End point.

182 Decatur Deb  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:11:45pm

re: #176 Cato the Elder

I'm sorry I voted for him once. He did a good job lying and scaring me into supporting the war on Iraq.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Ego te absolvo. For your penance say something nice about SP,.

183 Obdicut  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:12:39pm

re: #180 Merryweather

Seriously. And I had significant problems with Gore, too, over the issue of censorship. I also found his running away from Clinton to be stupid and distasteful.

However, water under the bridge. I'd rather focus on the current mudpit.

184 Digital Display  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:13:05pm

re: #181 badger1970

Bloody Hell! These assholes make millions of dollars being complete and utter ignoramuses and claim to be conservative. If they keep this up, they'll make people forget that the Republicans freed the slaves and the Dixiecrats were against the civil rights movement.

Obama is American and Tiger Woods is just another dumb athlete who has the world entire but pissed it all away. End point.

Tiger went to Stanford.. He's not dumb..He got drunk on money and power..
Oh how the mighty have fallen

185 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:13:56pm

re: #180 Merryweather

Well, we Dems did put up an awful, awful alternative in Kerry, so I don't blame you.

There's that, too. Though my diehard moonbat relatives would have voted for a blind syphilitic pig over Bush.

My biggest satisfaction was watching My Moonbat Brother (MMB™) learn the truth about John "The Silken Pony" Edwards and his character after he supported him in the primaries.

186 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:14:34pm

re: #148 Charles

Palin recycles every single false claim about the CRU emails. How completely nauseating.

Man, did this country ever dodge a bullet when she wasn't elected. I hereby fall on my knees and beg forgiveness for voting for her. I will rub ashes in my hair, and wear sackcloth for the rest of my days.

I caught a lot of shit around here for not voting for her. It was worth every minute of abuse I took.

187 recusancy  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:14:43pm

re: #183 Obdicut

Seriously. And I had significant problems with Gore, too, over the issue of censorship. I also found his running away from Clinton to be stupid and distasteful.

However, water under the bridge. I'd rather focus on the current mudpit.

I think the censorship thing was more Tipper's doing then his. But that annoyed me about him too. If you don't like him for that then you probably really wouldn't like Romney.

188 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:14:45pm

re: #182 Decatur Deb

Ego te absolvo. For your penance say something nice about SP,.

Ack!

OK: As far as I know, she has good personal hygiene.

189 irving  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:15:10pm

re: #148 Charles

Palin recycles every single false claim about the CRU emails. How completely nauseating.

Man, did this country ever dodge a bullet when she wasn't elected. I hereby fall on my knees and beg forgiveness for voting for her. I will rub ashes in my hair, and wear sackcloth for the rest of my days.

Charles, not to rub those ashes in or anything, but... of course she recycles right wing tripe. That's all she ever does. That's all she's ever done. She has never brought anything new to the conversation. Ever. Despite all the venom spewed at her, she's never been more than a mouthpiece for a the part of the right wing that's swallowed the Republicans whole. Hating her is like hating Regan MacNeil; that green vomit she keeps spewing around isn't hers per se, it's just a symptom of the evil that ate her soul.

190 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:15:30pm

I think Limbaugh has more than a bit of envy regarding Tiger.

191 Obdicut  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:16:18pm

re: #187 recusancy

I know it was Tipper's but he supported her on it, and made statements on it himself.

Gore seemed like a man desperate to make me not like him.

192 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:16:41pm

re: #186 Killgore Trout

I caught a lot of shit around here for not voting for her. It was worth every minute of abuse I took.

Let's form a club! Being a Lizard and calling Palin what she is in 2008 was quite an experience.

193 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:17:46pm

re: #186 Killgore Trout

I caught a lot of shit around here for not voting for her. It was worth every minute of abuse I took.

I imagine Charles feels the same way about leaving the right.

194 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:17:47pm

re: #190 MandyManners

I think Limbaugh has more than a bit of envy regarding Tiger.

Yeah, because Tiger is hot and there's a chance he doesn't have to pay his wife for sex.

195 badger1970  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:17:55pm

re: #184 HoosierHoops

Ok, Stanford grad but failed in the common sense arena to feed his ego.

I'm just pissed that he had what millions strive for him, it still wasn't enough.

196 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:18:12pm

If you'd like to point and laugh at a lefty for old time's sake...
Andrew Sullivan Has Questions About Sarah Palin's Baby!

Youtube Video
197 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:18:23pm

re: #195 badger1970

Ok, Stanford grad but failed in the common sense arena to feed his ego.

I'm just pissed that he had what millions strive for him, it still wasn't enough.

Lighten up- no one is perfect.

198 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:18:26pm

re: #2 Charles

When I want to know about the "black frame of mind," the first person I think of asking is Rush Limbaugh.

How long before someone tosses out the "he was only joking" excuse?

I don't even understand this. What does Tiger Woods' choice of ladies have to do with black attitudes about anything?

199 ExCamelJockey  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:18:28pm

"And I've got two more stories in the stack today about how black unemployment is through the roof. Black unemployment is terrible. Black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. Obama's not doing anything for them..."

I don't listen to Rush so I'm assuming that other than Jesse Jackson's discontent with Obama's recent policies, Rush had two more snippets that expand on black discontent with black unemployment and black frame of mind.

Am I missing something? Why shouldn't Rush be able to play accounts of black discontent with Obama and the economy?

200 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:18:49pm

re: #186 Killgore Trout

I caught a lot of shit around here for not voting for her. It was worth every minute of abuse I took.

It's morphed into a Palin Cult™. Then after hearing the abject pablum coming out of her mouth during the year...

Wasn't like that for me during the campaign. I basically ignored her while McCain was doing a poor job saying the same thing over and over again. Then watching him re-invent himself into a theocon of sorts.

201 recusancy  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:19:33pm

God... Campbel Brown is doing "Global Warming: Trick or Truth?" Where's the liberal media I always here so much about?

202 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:19:36pm

re: #14 Charles

Just got an "I'll pray for you" email, which is always fun.

I'll pray for you too, Charles, which is not to say that I think you're more in need of prayers than anyone else.

203 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:20:07pm

re: #191 Obdicut

I still haven't forgotten Gore sticking his tongue down Tipper's throat at the Democratic Convention that year. Truly one of the most nauseating sights I've ever seen in politics.

204 badger1970  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:20:26pm

re: #197 Sharmuta

Sorry, pissy day involving finances.

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:20:44pm

re: #20 WindUpBird

Could Rush Limbaugh be any more of a sheet-wearer? Millions of listeners turning in to hear this guy dog-whistling to the Klan.

I don't like the implication that the Klan are like dogs. Dogs are much classier than Klansmen. Also, they can lick their own testicles, which the average Klansman is unable to do.

//If you have an exception, NO, I don't want to see his video.

206 Gus  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:21:31pm

re: #199 ExCamelJockey

"And I've got two more stories in the stack today about how black unemployment is through the roof. Black unemployment is terrible. Black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. Obama's not doing anything for them..."

I don't listen to Rush so I'm assuming that other than Jesse Jackson's discontent with Obama's recent policies, Rush had two more snippets that expand on black discontent with black unemployment and black frame of mind.

Am I missing something? Why shouldn't Rush be able to play accounts of black discontent with Obama and the economy?

What the f*ck does Rush Limbaugh know about the black frame of mind?

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:22:03pm

re: #32 Kruk

"Black state of mind". Oh my fracking god.

Can you be in a black state of mind while not actually being black?

208 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:23:09pm

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

Can you be in a black state of mind while not actually being black?

That was the first thing that occurred to me.

But I was too much in a brown study to bring it up.

I'm yellow, that way.

And boy, is my face red!

209 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:23:09pm

re: #187 recusancy

If you don't like him for that then you probably really wouldn't like Romney.

I can't forgive Romney for the dog thing.

210 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:23:14pm

Leaked Tiger Woods Mistress Sex Tape

NSFW

211 Digital Display  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:23:17pm

re: #192 Cato the Elder

Let's form a club! Being a Lizard and calling Palin what she is in 2008 was quite an experience.

It's one thing Cato to disagree strongly about one's politics..And vote for someone else on principles.
It's another thing to call her every name in the book including a whore..
It was below you and distasteful...There was no glory in your words..No pride in your choice...

212 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:23:19pm

re: #39 cliffster

Not really. There's been grumblings about his female preferences.

I would think Rush would be more upset about Halle Berry's preferences. SHe's married to a white man, and it isn't him.

213 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:24:21pm

Sarah Palin Sex Tape Leaked

Really NSFW.

214 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:24:44pm

re: #41 Gus 802

My guess would be he's saying "see look, you're black idol went off and got white girlfriends."

I don't even know why I am trying to figure that out. Who are his advertisers and why is the asshole still on the air?

Tiger already had a white wife, had been married to her for several years, so why is the race of his lady friends suddenly important? Also, the man himself is like, triracial, so it's basically impossible for him to date in his own community. The Cablanasian singles scene is livelier than it once was, but it's still a fairly limited pool.

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:25:37pm

re: #47 Merryweather

Btw, Limbaugh recently got engaged for something like the 4th time (yeah, he's a real family values guy) to Kathryn Rogers. Who is - wait for it - white, young and blonde! Just like Tiger's 'choice of females'. Limbaugh's not only race-baiting, he is as usual completely full of crap.

Yes, but Rush allowed to date white women without it being controversial. Because, well, Rush says so.

216 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:26:29pm

re: #209 allegro

Huckabee's son did something even worse to a dog.

217 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:26:41pm

OK, I felt bad for a few seconds there, but that was funny as hell!

218 Irving  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:26:41pm

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

Can you be in a black state of mind while not actually being black?

...many, many, many white suburbanite teenagers try very hard to achieve it.

Ref: Eminem. (Or for a talentless illustration of the point, ref: Vanilla Ice.)

219 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:26:49pm

re: #208 Cato the Elder

Almost enough to turn the air blue, at that.

220 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:27:02pm

re: #68 tommysilver

Limbaugh is basically calling African Americans racist and to top it off he implies that African American men have a lurid lust for white women. The Robinson guy was basically making a point about society's narrow definition of beauty.

Tiger Woods likes blonds. Therefore African Americans are racist. This makes perfect sense to someone.

221 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:27:31pm

re: #76 Sharmuta

Kind of a warped perspective on how society functions. It's like thinking life in America would magically improve if we could just get Jennifer Aniston married.

I think she should date outside the industry.

//

222 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:27:54pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

Take a look at the front page of WND today. Swine flu conspiracies and they're claiming the bogus foiled terrorist attack last week is being covered up.

WND a long time ago was a decent read. It has gone totally down the toilet in the past five years or so.

223 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:28:10pm

re: #216 Merryweather

Huckabee's son did something even worse to a dog.

I so don't want to know.

224 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:28:31pm

re: #211 HoosierHoops

It's one thing Cato to disagree strongly about one's politics..And vote for someone else on principles.
It's another thing to call her every name in the book including a whore..
It was below you and distasteful...There was no glory in your words..No pride in your choice...

She is a whore. A political whore. Just like almost every politician out there.

I stand by every word I wrote.

225 John Vreeland  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:28:43pm

"Due diligence." Now that made me spit up my drink. Wing Nut Daily has defined Internet Looniness since it was created. How else were you going to find out how UFO's are really demons sent to confuse (True) Christians?

226 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:28:55pm

re: #222 Blueheron

WND a long time ago was a decent read. It has gone totally down the toilet in the past five years or so.

It's been in the toilet from the very beginning.

227 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:29:21pm

re: #220 SanFranciscoZionist

Tiger Woods likes blonds. Therefore African Americans are racist. This makes perfect sense to someone.

Well which part of Tiger Woods likes blonds? The Asian part or the white part or the black part? We gotta get our issues laid out here Rush old boy.

228 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:30:01pm

re: #227 Blueheron

Well which part of Tiger Woods likes blonds?

The male part.

229 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:30:17pm
230 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:30:55pm

the crazier you are, the more attention you get...lots of gossip

231 b_snark  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:31:25pm

re: #148 Charles

Palin recycles every single false claim about the CRU emails. How completely nauseating.

Man, did this country ever dodge a bullet when she wasn't elected. I hereby fall on my knees and beg forgiveness for voting for her. I will rub ashes in my hair, and wear sackcloth for the rest of my days.

Sorry, but atheists don't get absolution.

Gotta tough it out.

232 rurality  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:31:42pm

re: #172 Charles

I guess I am surprised that her idiousy, vacuousness, incompetence wasn't seen by you before the election. Werent you just a tad nervous that her running mate was elderly, with some health issues? In the last year, I havent heard anything new about her lack of everything, maybe some amplification and of course, her new persona, a quitter. What made the scales fall from your eyes?

233 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:31:43pm

re: #14 Charles

Just got an "I'll pray for you" email, which is always fun.

Well now Charles you never know. It can't hurt. /

234 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:31:46pm

re: #199 ExCamelJockey

"And I've got two more stories in the stack today about how black unemployment is through the roof. Black unemployment is terrible. Black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. Obama's not doing anything for them..."

I don't listen to Rush so I'm assuming that other than Jesse Jackson's discontent with Obama's recent policies, Rush had two more snippets that expand on black discontent with black unemployment and black frame of mind.

Am I missing something? Why shouldn't Rush be able to play accounts of black discontent with Obama and the economy?

What you may be missing is that although racism is alive and well in America, that does not mean that media pundits and political leaders should use this sad fact to exacerbate the racial divisions in order to increase their audiences.

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:31:46pm

re: #190 MandyManners

I think Limbaugh has more than a bit of envy regarding Tiger.

I can't imagine why he would.

/

236 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:32:36pm

re: #203 Merryweather

I still haven't forgotten Gore sticking his tongue down Tipper's throat at the Democratic Convention that year. Truly one of the most nauseating sights I've ever seen in politics.

At least they were married.

237 badger1970  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:33:20pm

re: #227 Blueheron

Interesting. First point.

Why Men Prefer Blondes

238 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:33:27pm

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

I can't imagine why he would.

/

How many hot, blonde women are going for him?

239 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:33:35pm

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

I can't imagine why he would.

/

Don't tell me, it's the golf swing, right?

240 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:33:48pm

re: #224 Cato the Elder

She makes more money tea bagging than being in the Governors mansion...

She switched parties in the NY-23 primary making her the worst kind of RINO and an absolute non entity who lost any remaining shred of credibillity she used to have.

Bah.

241 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:34:06pm

Sadly, I'm sure there are or will be enough exhibits to make it the rest of the way through the alphabet.

242 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:34:24pm

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

I can't imagine why he would.

/

Golf is a white man's game. Like hockey, but unlike hockey you can't take a golf club and beat the crap out of your opponent.

Well, at least not on the golf course.
/

243 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:34:40pm

re: #236 SanFranciscoZionist

At least they were married.

Even worse!

244 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:35:08pm
245 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:35:32pm

re: #238 MandyManners

How many hot, blonde women are going for him?

He is in fact currently engaged to one.

246 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:36:11pm

re: #245 Merryweather

He is in fact currently engaged to one.

I wonder if he has a big wallet.

247 Charles Johnson  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:36:26pm

re: #229 mdr20854

And now we've heard from the moron contingent! I cordially invite you to piss off.

248 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:38:26pm

re: #242 Alouette

Golf is a white man's game. Like hockey, but unlike hockey you can't take a golf club and beat the crap out of your opponent.

Well, at least not on the golf course.
/

Not only that, but Tiger was a working class kid. A real American success story.

249 Digital Display  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:38:49pm

re: #224 Cato the Elder

She is a whore. A political whore. Just like almost every politician out there.

I stand by every word I wrote.

I would expect no less from a bitter old man...
I may not agreed with her right wing extremism.. you called her every name in the book...It was ugly..and you know it...
I'm done talking about it

250 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:38:57pm

The Bumblebeez "Misfit"

Vimeo
251 avanti  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:39:49pm

Dems agree to drop the public option in health care bill.

link.

252 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:40:02pm

re: #223 allegro

I so don't want to know.

Me neither. Spare us please.

253 Big Steve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:40:16pm

Tiger Woods and Sarah Palin all in one thread...did I miss something or did Sarah turn up on Tiger's ever growing list of "friends".

254 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:40:30pm

re: #246 MandyManners

I wonder if he has a big wallet.

I'm sure he wouldn't need one. The fact he's set to earn $400 million over the next few years couldn't possibly have had anything to do with her decision to marry him. //

255 simoom  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:40:49pm

re: #88 irving

Add to that her Facebook post from last Thursday:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

The president’s decision to attend the international climate conference in Copenhagen needs to be reconsidered in light of the unfolding Climategate scandal. The leaked e-mails involved in Climategate expose the unscientific behavior of leading climate scientists who deliberately destroyed records to block information requests, manipulated data to “hide the decline” in global temperatures, and conspired to silence the critics of man-made global warming. I support Senator James Inhofe’s call for a full investigation into this scandal.

...

Policy decisions require real science and real solutions, not junk science and doomsday scare tactics pushed by an environmental priesthood that capitalizes on the public’s worry and makes them feel that owning an SUV is a “sin” against the planet. In his inaugural address, President Obama declared his intention to “restore science to its rightful place.” Boycotting Copenhagen while this scandal is thoroughly investigated would send a strong message that the United States government will not be a party to fraudulent scientific practices. Saying no to Copenhagen and cap and tax are first steps in “restoring science to its rightful place.”

256 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:40:59pm

re: #253 Big Steve

Tiger Woods and Sarah Palin all in one thread...did I miss something or did Sarah turn up on Tiger's ever growing list of "friends".

Now, that would be an interesting development, but, AFAIK, no.

257 Merryweather  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:41:57pm

re: #251 avanti

OMFG...I have so many expletives dancing around in my head right now...

258 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:42:16pm

re: #237 badger1970

Interesting. First point.

Why Men Prefer Blondes

Men and blonds. Geez Louise :(

259 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:42:58pm

re: #228 Sharmuta

The male part.

YES! lol

260 recusancy  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:44:23pm

Just read the Palin piece. She thinks Obama should boycott Copenhagen. WTF! We would be so fucked if she was anywhere near the highest office in the land.

I can't even understand that. It hurts a little bit. Just WTF!

261 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:45:34pm

Star Wars Zombies

262 Jaerik  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:46:06pm

re: #196 Killgore Trout

If you'd like to point and laugh at a lefty for old time's sake...

Andrew Sullivan's a "lefty?" Last I checked he's an "It's Complicated."

Wikipedia: "...a libertarian conservative who has argued that the Republican Party has abandoned true conservative principles.[12] He views true conservatism as classical libertarian conservative, where economic control of a citizen's daily life by the government is very limited. However, this style of conservatism differs from classic libertarianism in that some governmental control or regulation is acceptable in order to preserve a functional society as it currently exists..."

Sounds a lot like Charles Johnson, actually...

263 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:46:21pm

re: #254 Merryweather

I'm sure he wouldn't need one. The fact he's set to earn $400 million over the next few years couldn't possibly have had anything to do with her decision to marry him. //

Maybe it's true love.

264 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:47:00pm

re: #263 MandyManners

Maybe it's true love.

I know I'd have to be in love with him in order to hop into bed with him.

265 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:47:12pm

I think I just squicked myself out.

266 recusancy  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:47:50pm

re: #262 Jaerik

Andrew Sullivan's a "lefty?" Last I checked he's an "It's Complicated."

Wikipedia: "...a libertarian conservative who has argued that the Republican Party has abandoned true conservative principles.[12] He views true conservatism as classical libertarian conservative, where economic control of a citizen's daily life by the government is very limited. However, this style of conservatism differs from classic libertarianism in that some governmental control or regulation is acceptable in order to preserve a functional society as it currently exists..."

Sounds a lot like Charles Johnson, actually...

Considers himself a Tory and says he doesn't have the same visceral allegiances that come with being born and brought up in this country. Thatcher is his hero.

267 Blueheron  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:48:26pm

re: #265 MandyManners

I think I just squicked myself out.

Errr how do you do that?

268 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:48:26pm

re: #265 MandyManners

I think I just squicked myself out.

Yanno, I so get that. At the same time, I hate to go the "she's a gold-digger" route.

269 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:49:12pm

re: #264 MandyManners

I know I'd have to be in love with him in order to hop into bed with him.

I wouldn't think he was terrible-looking if he was a friend's husband, you know? It's just that, well, you see a guy like that and a younger, hot woman...

270 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:49:47pm

re: #268 allegro

Yanno, I so get that. At the same time, I hate to go the "she's a gold-digger" route.

oh go ahead

271 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:50:34pm

I didn't have a good feeling about Heather Mills. Just sayin'.

272 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:51:27pm

It's -11 (f) now outside...

273 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:52:27pm

Thai Moon Festival

Youtube Video
274 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:52:35pm

re: #267 Blueheron

Errr how do you do that?

It's part "squeamish" and "ick".

275 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:53:03pm

re: #268 allegro

Yanno, I so get that. At the same time, I hate to go the "she's a gold-digger" route.

Even portly rightwingers need love.

276 Digital Display  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:53:20pm

re: #272 Walter L. Newton

It's -11 (f) now outside...

Hi Walter! That's a small price to pay to live in paradise!
Stay warm and drive safe my friend

277 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:53:25pm

re: #274 MandyManners

awkweird

awkward and weird

278 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:53:31pm

re: #269 SanFranciscoZionist

I wouldn't think he was terrible-looking if he was a friend's husband, you know? It's just that, well, you see a guy like that and a younger, hot woman...

I think Demi Moore rocks.

279 badger1970  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:53:34pm

re: #272 Walter L. Newton

Youtube Video
280 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:53:47pm

re: #270 albusteve

oh go ahead

Nah, I really can't. The reason he so repulses me isn't his looks, it's his ugly insides. Maybe she finds that appealing... there are winger women around, too... the Phylys Shalfy types who might find him *choke* sexy as hell.

281 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:54:54pm

re: #271 Sharmuta

I didn't have a good feeling about Heather Mills. Just sayin'.

He didn't have a pre-nup, did he?

282 Decatur Deb  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:54:58pm

re: #272 Walter L. Newton

It's -11 (f) now outside...

Hope you're an old hand at this.

283 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:55:17pm

re: #272 Walter L. Newton

It's -11 (f) now outside...

And my air conditioning is out tonight. Gonna be muggy and icky sleeping. Even with all the windows open.

Just thought I would share!

284 Jaerik  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:55:34pm

re: #266 recusancy

Considers himself a Tory and says he doesn't have the same visceral allegiances that come with being born and brought up in this country. Thatcher is his hero.

If having Margaret Thatcher as an idol makes you a "lefty" now, we're pretty much doomed.

285 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:55:56pm

re: #280 allegro

Nah, I really can't. The reason he so repulses me isn't his looks, it's his ugly insides. Maybe she finds that appealing... there are winger women around, too... the Phylys Shalfy types who might find him *choke* sexy as hell.

I really can't relate to any of these people...but I enjoy reading the opinions of others that are deep in

286 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:55:58pm

re: #283 Crimsonfisted

And my air conditioning is out tonight. Gonna be muggy and icky sleeping. Even with all the windows open.

Just thought I would share!

*whack*

287 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:55:59pm

Andre Iguodola Crazy Full Court Shot

Youtube Video
288 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:56:35pm

re: #281 MandyManners

He didn't have a pre-nup, did he?

Heather is a 'he'?

289 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:57:23pm

re: #114 WindUpBird

My favorite bumper sticker of all time, seen in 2004 or so:

RUSH IS A BAND. SO IS BUSH. SO IS ANTHRAX.

I just read this one today and thought it was good.

"I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop."

Not sure where I read that.

290 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:57:58pm

re: #281 MandyManners

He didn't have a pre-nup, did he?

I don't believe there was.

291 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:58:31pm

Oh, please don't go all Paul McCartney.

292 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:58:37pm

re: #284 Jaerik

she is a communist compared to John Boenher

293 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:58:56pm

re: #288 albusteve

Heather is a 'he'?

McCartney.

294 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:00:27pm

re: #283 Crimsonfisted

And my air conditioning is out tonight. Gonna be muggy and icky sleeping. Even with all the windows open.

Just thought I would share!

I'm fine. It's toasty in here. Got the pellet stove burning away, bed has a full sized electric blanket on it and supper is cooking away. It's comfy here.

295 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:00:50pm

re: #290 Sharmuta

I don't believe there was.

Mills stated that she needed approximately £360,000 for personal security, £175,000 for her daughter’s security, £176,000 a year for clothes, and the ownership of four homes:[101] one in Beverly Hills, one on Long Island and two in England with a combined value of £5,700,000 as well as £8 million (up to £12,500,000) to buy a home in London, £3 million to buy a home in New York, and £750,000 to buy an office in Brighton, England, for Mills’ sister. She also asked for £1 million for legal expenses, £650,500 a year for donations to charities, £650,400 a year to run seven properties with staff,[102] £500,000 a year for holidays, £186,000 a year for chartered helicopters,[103] £43,300 a year for a chauffeur, £20,000 a year for a caregiver, and £191,150 a year for "professional expenses". Mills unexpectedly asked for £40,000 a year for wine (although she rarely drinks alcohol) and £30,000 a year for equestrian activities,[104] but Justice Bennett had to remind her that she did not ride horses any more.[105] Justice Bennett questioned Mills' claim that before she met McCartney she had £2 million to £3 million in bank accounts, so she was asked to produce bank statements to verify the fact. Mills replied that she thought she had them at her home in Brighton, but no bank statements were ever shown to the court, which also cast doubt on her assertion that she gave 80% to 90% of her earned income to charities, as her tax returns (between 1997 and 2000) showed no charitable donations at all.[26][106] Near the end of the court case, Mills calmly poured a jug of water over the head of McCartney's solicitor, Fiona Shackleton, shouting, "You're a bitch! You're a traitor to your sex! How could you do this to another woman?" and, "I'm not a loser".[107][108][109]

The hearing took six days, finishing on 18 February 2008, with the judgment being made public on 17 March 2008.[26] Mills was eventually awarded a lump sum of £16.5m, together with assets of £7.8m, which included the properties she owned at the time.[110] The total was £24.3 million, plus payments of £35,000 per annum, for a nanny and school costs for their daughter

296 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:01:12pm

re: #283 Crimsonfisted

And my air conditioning is out tonight. Gonna be muggy and icky sleeping. Even with all the windows open.

Just thought I would share!

Where are you, Australia?

297 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:01:29pm

re: #293 MandyManners

McCartney.

oh...I feel like I'm in a hair salon

298 Digital Display  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:01:31pm

re: #293 MandyManners

McCartney.

It's sad isn't it? Even the most powerful, richest people in the world can't find love...

299 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:01:47pm

re: #291 allegro

Oh, please don't go all Paul McCartney.

It's a night to remember John

Youtube Video
300 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:02:40pm

re: #296 Alouette

Where are you, Australia?

Florida. And sticky tonight.

301 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:02:50pm

re: #298 HoosierHoops

It's sad isn't it? Even the most powerful, richest people in the world can't find love...

but...can't buy me love

302 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:02:55pm

re: #298 HoosierHoops

It's sad isn't it? Even the most powerful, richest people in the world can't find love...

I normally don't like the Beatles.


Youtube Video
303 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:03:11pm

re: #299 Sharmuta

Thank you... indeed it is.

304 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:03:57pm

re: #294 Walter L. Newton

I'm fine. It's toasty in here. Got the pellet stove burning away, bed has a full sized electric blanket on it and supper is cooking away. It's comfy here.

Gonna get a bit cranky here tonight. Sounds cozy where you are.

305 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:04:16pm

re: #299 Sharmuta

It's a night to remember John


[Video]

can't open any vids...but he will always be the big dog to me...RIP John

306 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:04:45pm

This Year in Auto-Tune 2009

307 Basho  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:05:10pm

One person the right has going for them is noted climatologist Sarah Palin:
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

308 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:05:46pm

The Beatles defined my entry into teenage-hood. I worshipped them. Paul McCartney was my second love (after Tony Curtis when I was about 7, competing with Yul Brynner who I still think is the sexiest man I ever saw).

309 Racer X  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:06:35pm

New Study Reveals Most Children Unrepentant Sociopaths

MINNEAPOLIS—A study published Monday in The Journal Of Child Psychology And Psychiatry has concluded that an estimated 98 percent of children under the age of 10 are remorseless sociopaths with little regard for anything other than their own egocentric interests and pleasures.

310 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:06:50pm
311 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:07:08pm

re: #309 Racer X

Duh. Just sayin'.

312 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:07:23pm

re: #305 albusteve

can't open any vids...but he will always be the big dog to me...RIP John

I'm sorry you can't open videos. Maybe you can play some for yourself. Can never get enough Lennon.

Youtube Video
313 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:07:48pm

re: #294 Walter L. Newton

I'm fine. It's toasty in here. Got the pellet stove burning away, bed has a full sized electric blanket on it and supper is cooking away. It's comfy here.

I sleep on top of my bed with long johns and two comforters over me..the only time I'm toasty in the bunkhouse...I need woodburner

314 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:08:47pm

re: #313 albusteve

I

sleep on top of my bed with long johns and two comforters over me..the only time I'm toasty in the bunkhouse...I need woodburner

Get a dog. Much warmer than a woodburner and a lot snugglier.

315 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:09:12pm

re: #306 Racer X

This Year in Auto-Tune 2009

We all forgot about the fly swatting scandal!

316 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:10:21pm

re: #312 Sharmuta

I'm sorry you can't open videos. Maybe you can play some for yourself. Can never get enough Lennon.


[Video]

I have plenty on CD...and further I always upsets me a bit when people diss him for his politics, which I don't think is fair...he was a kind, generous soul who cared alot about everybody

317 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:10:52pm

re: #314 allegro

I

Get a dog. Much warmer than a woodburner and a lot snugglier.

travel too much...no pets for me anymore

318 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:11:05pm

re: #262 Jaerik

He's been a lefty as long as I can remember no matter how he describes himself. I haven't detected a hint of conservatism from him.

319 Decatur Deb  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:11:27pm

re: #309 Racer X

New Study Reveals Most Children Unrepentant Sociopaths

MINNEAPOLIS—A study published Monday in The Journal Of Child Psychology And Psychiatry has concluded that an estimated 98 percent of children under the age of 10 are remorseless sociopaths with little regard for anything other than their own egocentric interests and pleasures.

WKRP's Bailey finds a child psychologist.

[Link: mystic-nights.com...]

320 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:11:38pm

re: #316 albusteve

If I had to not listen to a musician for not sharing all of my political beliefs, I doubt I would listen to much music.

321 Decatur Deb  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:12:54pm

re: #319 Decatur Deb

Excuse BS commercials.

322 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:13:28pm

re: #320 Sharmuta

If I had to not listen to a musician for not sharing all of my political beliefs, I doubt I would listen to much music.

That's what I think about Moby.

323 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:14:15pm

re: #316 albusteve

I always upsets me a bit when people diss him for his politics, which I don't think is fair...he was a kind, generous soul who cared alot about everybody

I don't think it was politics in the way we think of it now in terms of party affiliation. I think he just wanted to see the world's people treated fairly and given a chance at life. It was a world view. He was so ahead of his time.

324 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:14:43pm

re: #322 MandyManners

That's what I think about Moby.

And Gwen Stefani

Youtube Video
325 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:16:01pm

re: #320 Sharmuta

If I had to not listen to a musician for not sharing all of my political beliefs, I doubt I would listen to much music.

yes, personal politics is one thing, where performance is another...I really dig the Neville Bros message of good will and brotherhood tho

326 djughurknot  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:17:25pm

re: #318 Killgore Trout

He's been a lefty as long as I can remember no matter how he describes himself. I haven't detected a hint of conservatism from him.

Maybe he's a conservative by UK standards, but certainly not here. Are his positions consistent with today's UK or Canadian Tories, do you think? And, if he considers himself a conservative, is he wrong to do so if he lives here (ie judge by the local standard)?

327 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:17:48pm

re: #324 Sharmuta

And Gwen Stefani



I'm grooving now.

328 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:17:49pm

re: #323 allegro

I don't think it was politics in the way we think of it now in terms of party affiliation. I think he just wanted to see the world's people treated fairly and given a chance at life. It was a world view. He was so ahead of his time.

yes, and I don't think he had it entirely sorted out at the time of his death...another human being trying his best to find some peace and get by

329 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:19:12pm

re: #328 albusteve

That he died a violent death I will never reconcile. Especially since it was so fucking stupid.

330 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:19:41pm

re: #326 djughurknot

Well, I just think it's unfair to the wingnuts to lump Sullivan's insanity in with Beck, Limbaugh and Palin. The poor conservatives have enough problems these days without hoisting Andrew Sullivan in with them.

331 albusteve  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:21:16pm

re: #329 allegro

That he died a violent death I will never reconcile. Especially since it was so fucking stupid.

he didn't even know he owned the Dakota...he was jamming with Paul...his immigration issues where behind him...he was feeling creative...his loss rocked my world

332 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:21:34pm

I rather feel than Andrew Sullivan is more honest than all of them. He plays out his neurosis in public, baring it all. I have a respect for that.

333 djughurknot  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:22:06pm

re: #330 Killgore Trout

Ah. Yes. Whatever was I thinking?

OTOH, that would be quite the cage match.

334 HappyWarrior  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:22:32pm

Oh that Rush he's such a joker. Why does it matter what country Obama's father was from to him? And the comment about Woods' choice in women is pretty lame too.

335 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:22:45pm

re: #331 albusteve

Stop it. You're making me feel affection for you.

336 Decatur Deb  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:23:45pm

re: #332 allegro

I rather feel than Andrew Sullivan is more honest than all of them. He plays out his neurosis in public, baring it all. I have a respect for that.

Baring it all is more a virtue of strippers than of commentators.

337 steelerjoe  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:25:53pm

re: #26 Charles

Wow. Talk about missing the point.

I think Robinson just threw the "Barbie" thing out there but he was smart enough to blame Tiger for being "insecure and image-conscious" instead of going the Rush route. Come on Eugene can't Tiger just like that kind of Woman? What is wrong with that?

Also, the Rush clip is 30 seconds selectively pulled by media matters. They have played this game for well over a decade. Media Matters is no better than those youtube videos from the election that selectively pulled short audio or video of Obama saying things that were likely out of context.

338 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:26:11pm

re: #336 Decatur Deb

Baring it all is more a virtue of strippers than of commentators.

The sexism of that comment notwithstanding (gentle *smack*), I disagree. I think it reflects a certain honesty that I find lacking in most all other pundits who are paid to spout one side or the other, notwithstanding their personal identities.

339 Decatur Deb  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:29:13pm

re: #338 allegro

The sexism of that comment notwithstanding (gentle *smack*), I disagree. I think it reflects a certain honesty that I find lacking in most all other pundits who are paid to spout one side or the other, notwithstanding their personal identities.

Sorry, when I heard "baring it all" I went immediately to Beck's antics (even before strippers).

340 allegro  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:29:39pm

re: #337 steelerjoe

I think Robinson just threw the "Barbie" thing out there but he was smart enough to blame Tiger for being "insecure and image-conscious" instead of going the Rush route.

I'll agree with you that he was smart enough to go the conventional route and not discuss the REAL issue that would piss off so many. That is that white, blonde, and skinny is our culture's image of beauty. That leaves out a whole population of beautiful women of color and size.

341 djughurknot  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:30:03pm

re: #332 allegro

I rather feel than Andrew Sullivan is more honest than all of them. He plays out his neurosis in public, baring it all. I have a respect for that.

You're right, of course. Thank goodness none of our fearless, upstanding figures blubber on television or point fingers while Godwinning prime time, much less use their platforms to spout nonsense.

/

In all seriousness, Sully's "neurosis"--if we're calling it that-- seems more an attempt to impart personal transparency and self-generated moral urgency into his commentary, than any sort of utter insanity. (Trig stuff aside...)

342 bwrader  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:32:22pm

re: #4 Jetpilot1101

Charles, unless I heard the clip wrong, his "the black frame of mind is terrible" comment was refering to a story he was going to share. The Tiger Woods comment was just plain uncalled for. Not trying to defend Rush by any means here so please don't take it as such.

Exactly what I was going to say.

The "black frame of mind" comment taken out of context sounds pretty horrible, but he was referring to a report that said their frame of mind was bad due to the job obama was doing with the country. Didn't see anything wrong with that comment, other than it is most likely a made up report that doesn't exist.

Not trying to defend rush, but lets not jump on stuff taken out of context and be hypocrites here...

Tiger comment was totally uncalled for, however.

343 jdog29  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:35:39pm

re: #337 steelerjoe

I think Robinson just threw the "Barbie" thing out there but he was smart enough to blame Tiger for being "insecure and image-conscious" instead of going the Rush route. Come on Eugene can't Tiger just like that kind of Woman? What is wrong with that?

Also, the Rush clip is 30 seconds selectively pulled by media matters. They have played this game for well over a decade. Media Matters is no better than those youtube videos from the election that selectively pulled short audio or video of Obama saying things that were likely out of context.

People are usually attracted to a certain type of individual. This is the reason many people break up or divorce and end up with someone VERY similar to the person they just left.

The grass is the same shade of green on both sides of the fence.

344 palomino  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:55:19pm

re: #318 Killgore Trout

He's been a lefty as long as I can remember no matter how he describes himself. I haven't detected a hint of conservatism from him.

No, he's still a conservative, just not as robust or proud as he once was; he's a pragmatist who actually believes in things like compromise and good governance.

His book of a few years ago was called "The Conservative Soul" and his favorite philosophers are Oakeshott and Burke. He's still a big believer in limited government and a softened version of American exceptionalism. And he still has a hard-on for American style capitalism, including a giant man-crush on Reagan, who he calls the greatest post-war prez (one of the few things he has in common with Palin).

He can seem like a lefty at times because of his strong support for "marriage equality" and legalization of weed, as well as his distaste for the religious right. But he supported Bush in 2000 and through his first term. Like CJ, he's disillusioned with the current state of the conservative movement and desperately wants the right to grow up or fuck off.

345 Cato the Elder  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 6:55:19pm

re: #249 HoosierHoops

I would expect no less from a bitter old man...
I may not agreed with her right wing extremism.. you called her every name in the book...It was ugly..and you know it...
I'm done talking about it

And I've had it with you, you self-righteous buffoon.

346 palomino  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 7:11:17pm

re: #251 avanti

Dems agree to drop the public option in health care bill.

link.

So then what's left in the bill for the right to object to? No abortion funding (at least on House side), no single payer, no PO, no death panels (not even in SPs imagination).

What's left is hardly a manifestation of the type of "radical govt takeover of healthcare" that the Hannitys and Becks and their teabagging legions have been crowing about for months.

347 Jadespring  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 7:15:50pm

re: #299 Sharmuta

It's a night to remember John

When he was killed I was too young to really know who he was. I still remember it though. I was in primary school at the time and everyday we had reading time where my teacher would sit us down and read a book. That day he started reading and eventually had to stop because he kept choking up. It was the first time I remember seeing an adult man cry. Of course we didn't know what was going on until he explained to us that a man who was a musician and important to him had died and he was very sad. He didn't tell us he'd been killed. I found that out when I got home and told Mom that my teacher had been so sad today that he actually cried. Mom explained it more and then put on a Beatles record so I could hear it. That was the first time I remember listening to them and I liked it so much I played in over and over until I knew all the words.

348 ryannon  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 8:37:29pm

re: #331 albusteve

he didn't even know he owned the Dakota...he was jamming with Paul...his immigration issues where behind him...he was feeling creative...his loss rocked my world

I didn't even know he owned the Dakota either. Are you sure of this?

In looking to fact-check on Google however, I discovered that there's a FBI/Lennon moonbat conspiracy theory. Amazing what people will come up with.

[Link: www.jfkmontreal.com...]

349 avanti  Tue, Dec 8, 2009 10:26:02pm

The poster at Hot Air are going over the top in a health care thread. Talk of states refusing federal money and succession were just the start. Shoot outs with the capital police, and than this one.

"I couldn’t care less what the Obamunist’s view is, I intend to put the rope around his neck when Obamunist hangs and I DARE for him or his lackeys to send anyone after me. I guarantee our military will support me in this, why?, because I work with these good folk every day. "

350 amrafel  Wed, Dec 9, 2009 1:04:58am

"we have Sean Hannity going Birther, claiming that wacko wingnut site World Net Daily is just doing “due diligence” by obsessing over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, and saying “Given his father’s birthplace, what’s wrong with asking if Obama has a legitimate birth certificate?”

I guess I've managed to distinguish between, "I won't accept your legitimacy until I see a real and good copy of your birth certificate" and "What’s wrong with asking if Obama has a legitimate birth certificate?”
The former is annoying birtherism. But I have no problem with the latter. I I guess it depends on what Hannity *really* believes.

351 tdg2112  Wed, Dec 9, 2009 7:01:22am

re: #172 Charles

Palin actually says that the CRU scientists represent the "radical environmental movement!"

Argh. This is a one-woman stupid factory. She doesn't know the difference between "weather" and "climate" and uses the terms interchangeably.

Awwh come on, do you think she even knows the difference between a scientific theory and and a hypothesis (i.e.the colloquial use of the term "just a theory").

Anyone who can't tell the difference between Creationist "theory" and Evolution "theory" can't possibly be expected to understand the difference between the Climate and the weather.

352 acacia  Wed, Dec 9, 2009 7:06:37am

I read the entire Rush monologue cited and find that it is a criticism of the stuck in the past Black leadership, not race baiting. To get a better idea of what he is saying, I noticed the following blog commentary from Elizabeth Gates, a black woman, posted at the Daily Beast talking about Tiger:

"As a young black woman myself, who also prides herself on being a card-carrying feminist, I suppose I should be outraged by his infidelity on many levels—naturally, the most “important” being that yet another black man has abandoned the race and succumbed to the wanton ways of those dirty white women who lurk in the shadows trying to steal our men."

While she then confides that she doesn't care about Tiger, she accurately describes the stereotypes, and the serious social problems created by those unfounded stereotypes, held by the traditional Black leadership. If a commentator who is white cannot say essentially the same thing - both criticizing unfounded racial prejudices and stereotypes - just because of his race, then I don't see us getting any further in our country's race relations.

353 S'latch  Wed, Dec 9, 2009 7:51:57am

I honestly can't tell what Rush Limbaugh is talking about in that clip. If it is a "racist dog whistle," I am proud to say I can't hear it.

354 AmericanParty  Wed, Dec 9, 2009 7:52:46am

"The black frame of mind is terrible"

One I first read it on the main page without listening, I thought it was disgusting. Now after hearing it in context and knowing that it is referring to how black people feel according to the rev. I think it's ok.

Why did you have to make it sound like Rush was race baiting even more than he did with the Tiger Woods comment?

355 steelerjoe  Wed, Dec 9, 2009 10:28:34am

re: #353 Lawrence Schmerel

I honestly can't tell what Rush Limbaugh is talking about in that clip. If it is a "racist dog whistle," I am proud to say I can't hear it.

It is hard to understand an out-of-context audio clip. Media Matters does this all of the time.

Using anything from media matters as source material is as bad as using World Net Daily.

356 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 9, 2009 10:47:38am

The usual Rush Limbaugh apologetics. Yawn.

357 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 9, 2009 10:47:58am

re: #355 steelerjoe

It is hard to understand an out-of-context audio clip. Media Matters does this all of the time.

Using anything from media matters as source material is as bad as using World Net Daily.

By the way, did you think I didn't notice that you sneaked back in after being banned?

358 1LTTJ  Wed, Dec 9, 2009 5:46:28pm

#9:If there wasn't any money in being a racist asshole, they'd all either be moderates

See also: Revs Jackson, Wright and Sharpton

359 yoshicastmaster  Wed, Dec 9, 2009 9:42:39pm

so the birth certificate was provided to some sources, a scan was provided, and the govt of Hawaii verified this... so why is this still an issue.

How did all other Presidents prove their eligibility I wonder. It seems like Obama has probably done more than that by now. There needs to be one standard that's consistent, someone assigned to verify it, and then Sarah Palin et al shut the hell up.


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